Order of the Lily and the Eagle Tue, 24 Mar 2026 11:17:48 -0600 http://www.archatoz.net en-us © 2026 Order of the Lily and the Eagle yes 3411f447-b858-5d56-96f9-1f8336a68525 lilyandeagle@googlemail.com Kevin Pugh and Larry Van Vleet episodic false These podcasts on the Spiritual Insights of Marie Routchine, founder of the Order of the Lily and the Eagle, are the conversations between two long time members of the OL+E, Kevin Pugh and Larry Van Vleet, to show how Marie’s unique understanding of traditional spiritual work can practically assist anyone interested in developing themselves first as an individual and then, ultimately, as an enlightened contributor to society. Marie founded the Order of the Lily and the Eagle over 100 years ago along with the co-founder Dimitri Semelas. 


Her hope was to create a new, undistorted vehicle for the dissemination of traditional spiritual teaching so that a world of strong, free and morally conscience individuals might become something valued in the world. We believe that the powerful insights that came out of her creation are truly amazing in their capacity to empower change in one’s life and we hope to share at least some of that excitement with you here. Further information on the Order of the Lily and the Eagle is available at archatoz.net or lilyandeagle.org or via email to lilyandeagle@googlemail.com.

]]> Buzzsprout (https://www.buzzsprout.com) Self Help, Self-Improvement, Spirituality, Esoteric, Order of the Lily and the Eagle, Initiatic Kevin Pugh and Larry Van Vleet lilyandeagle@googlemail.com https://storage.buzzsprout.com/3eog1dech0s5hocxnwv8g1kkkatl?.jpg Order of the Lily and the Eagle http://www.archatoz.net Series 3-8: Self-Change Techniques Series 3-8: Self-Change Techniques This podcast is the 8th in our Series 3 podcasts on the Insights of Marie Routchine, the founder of the Order of the Lily and the Eagle.  In this episode we briefly look at one self-change technique, a spiritual technique, that is particularly effective when used by someone who wishes to change themselves. This self-change is not difficult, but it does require committed and sustained effort to bring about a lasting result.

Contact: lilyandeagle@googlemail.com
www.archatoz.net
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]]> This podcast is the 8th in our Series 3 podcasts on the Insights of Marie Routchine, the founder of the Order of the Lily and the Eagle.  In this episode we briefly look at one self-change technique, a spiritual technique, that is particularly effective when used by someone who wishes to change themselves. This self-change is not difficult, but it does require committed and sustained effort to bring about a lasting result.

Contact: lilyandeagle@googlemail.com
www.archatoz.net
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]]> KePu and Larry Van Vleet Buzzsprout-18450445 Sun, 04 Jan 2026 11:00:00 -0700 350 s3, e8 3 8 full false Series 3-7 - On Being Happy Series 3-7 - On Being Happy This podcast is the 7th in our Series 3 podcasts on the Insights of Marie Routchine, founder of the Order of the Lily and the Eagle.  In this episode, the subject of this talk is happiness and how we can “be happy” in our daily lives.  Everyone almost without exception says that they want to be “happy” but being truly happy seems quite elusive for  many.  Why is that, and how can we begin looking at happiness a little differently so that we may improve our chances of finding and keeping it. 

Contact: lilyandeagle@googlemail.com
www.archatoz.net
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]]> This podcast is the 7th in our Series 3 podcasts on the Insights of Marie Routchine, founder of the Order of the Lily and the Eagle.  In this episode, the subject of this talk is happiness and how we can “be happy” in our daily lives.  Everyone almost without exception says that they want to be “happy” but being truly happy seems quite elusive for  many.  Why is that, and how can we begin looking at happiness a little differently so that we may improve our chances of finding and keeping it. 

Contact: lilyandeagle@googlemail.com
www.archatoz.net
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]]> KP and Larry Van Vleet Buzzsprout-18076580 Sun, 26 Oct 2025 11:00:00 -0600 492 s3, e7 3 7 full false Series 3-6: Freedom Series 3-6: Freedom This podcast is the 6th in our Series 3 podcasts on the Insights of Marie Routchine/Dupre, founder of the Order of the Lily and the Eagle.  In this episode we take a quick look at how the Order views freedom and how we might apply that view to ourselves and our struggles with its practical application.  Freedom is a key principle for the Order and one of the foundational elements of any true Initiatic teaching.  However, it is also something that can often be misunderstood and/or abused.  Join us now for a short introduction to this interesting topic.

Contact: lilyandeagle@googlemail.com
www.archatoz.net
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]]> This podcast is the 6th in our Series 3 podcasts on the Insights of Marie Routchine/Dupre, founder of the Order of the Lily and the Eagle.  In this episode we take a quick look at how the Order views freedom and how we might apply that view to ourselves and our struggles with its practical application.  Freedom is a key principle for the Order and one of the foundational elements of any true Initiatic teaching.  However, it is also something that can often be misunderstood and/or abused.  Join us now for a short introduction to this interesting topic.

Contact: lilyandeagle@googlemail.com
www.archatoz.net
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]]> KP and Larry Van Vleet Buzzsprout-17752040 Thu, 28 Aug 2025 14:00:00 -0600 451 s3, e6 3 6 full false Series 3-5: Similarity and Dissimilarity Series 3-5: Similarity and Dissimilarity This podcast is the 5th in our Series 3 on the Insights of Marie Routchine, founder of the Order of the Lily and the Eagle.  In this episode we take a brief look at why the Order considers it important to understand the place of Similarity and Dissimilarity in our life.  From the Order’s perspective, dissimilarity or difference is one of the most critical yet often unrecognized Laws of Nature.  It is central to any effort to discover and affirm one's personal individuality.  

We build a rapport with others through our similarities, and we can then celebrate the differences.

Contact: lilyandeagle@googlemail.com
www.archatoz.net
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]]> This podcast is the 5th in our Series 3 on the Insights of Marie Routchine, founder of the Order of the Lily and the Eagle.  In this episode we take a brief look at why the Order considers it important to understand the place of Similarity and Dissimilarity in our life.  From the Order’s perspective, dissimilarity or difference is one of the most critical yet often unrecognized Laws of Nature.  It is central to any effort to discover and affirm one's personal individuality.  

We build a rapport with others through our similarities, and we can then celebrate the differences.

Contact: lilyandeagle@googlemail.com
www.archatoz.net
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]]> KP and Larry Van Vleet Buzzsprout-17603994 Sat, 02 Aug 2025 09:00:00 -0600 419 s3, e5 3 5 full false Series 3-4: The Spirit or Mind Series 3-4: The Spirit or Mind In this episode we continue our discussion about a person’s Triple Constitution by examining our third hypostases – the Spirit or Mind.  The activity of Mind or Spirit is generally easier to distinguish than that of the Emotional nature or Soul, but again we often have only a vague understanding of the Spirit’s true place and role in the correct functioning of our being.  This podcast clarifies some of these issues and show how the Spirit can act to bring about greater balance in our lives.


The Spirit is a faculty that allows us to have thoughts.
Our Mind is an internal state that directs our thinking.

Contact: lilyandeagle@googlemail.com
www.archatoz.net
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]]> In this episode we continue our discussion about a person’s Triple Constitution by examining our third hypostases – the Spirit or Mind.  The activity of Mind or Spirit is generally easier to distinguish than that of the Emotional nature or Soul, but again we often have only a vague understanding of the Spirit’s true place and role in the correct functioning of our being.  This podcast clarifies some of these issues and show how the Spirit can act to bring about greater balance in our lives.


The Spirit is a faculty that allows us to have thoughts.
Our Mind is an internal state that directs our thinking.

Contact: lilyandeagle@googlemail.com
www.archatoz.net
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]]> KP and Larry Van Vleet Buzzsprout-17484630 Sun, 13 Jul 2025 09:00:00 -0600 809 s3, e4 full false Series 3-3: The Soul or Psyche Series 3-3: The Soul or Psyche In this OL+E podcast we cover the Soul or the Emotional or Psychic nature that we all have. This has always been a very confusing subject and one which is often mixed up with elements of our Spirit, our Mind and our Body.  Understanding the Soul’s particular role and constitution, is critical to any successful attempt at Spiritual work and in this podcast we attempt to shed some light on these distinctions.

Our Soul is a faculty that allows us to have sentiments.
The esthetic state is directing what sentiments that we have.

Contact: lilyandeagle@googlemail.com
www.archatoz.net
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]]> In this OL+E podcast we cover the Soul or the Emotional or Psychic nature that we all have. This has always been a very confusing subject and one which is often mixed up with elements of our Spirit, our Mind and our Body.  Understanding the Soul’s particular role and constitution, is critical to any successful attempt at Spiritual work and in this podcast we attempt to shed some light on these distinctions.

Our Soul is a faculty that allows us to have sentiments.
The esthetic state is directing what sentiments that we have.

Contact: lilyandeagle@googlemail.com
www.archatoz.net
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]]> KP and Larry Van Vleet Buzzsprout-17484647 Sat, 12 Jul 2025 09:00:00 -0600 721 s3, e3 full false Series 3-2: The Physical Body Series 3-2: The Physical Body This podcast examines the first (and easiest to recognize) component of our Triple Constitution – the Body.  We all have a body, that is beyond dispute, but do we really understand the Body’s particular role in our overall Being or the specific elements it requires for living a healthy and balanced life?  Do you ever wonder why we even have a body at all?

Our Body allows us to come into contact with the environment that is around us, through the faculty of the 5 senses. 
Movement is an essential faculty of our Body, and is the basis of all life in the universe.

Contact: lilyandeagle@googlemail.com
www.archatoz.net
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]]> This podcast examines the first (and easiest to recognize) component of our Triple Constitution – the Body.  We all have a body, that is beyond dispute, but do we really understand the Body’s particular role in our overall Being or the specific elements it requires for living a healthy and balanced life?  Do you ever wonder why we even have a body at all?

Our Body allows us to come into contact with the environment that is around us, through the faculty of the 5 senses. 
Movement is an essential faculty of our Body, and is the basis of all life in the universe.

Contact: lilyandeagle@googlemail.com
www.archatoz.net
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]]> KP and Larry Van Vleet Buzzsprout-17484661 Fri, 11 Jul 2025 09:00:00 -0600 886 s3, e2 full false Series 3-1: Our Triple Constitution Series 3-1: Our Triple Constitution This is the first OL+E podcast in our third series on the Insights of Marie Routchine-Dupre, the founder of the Order of the Lily and the Eagle.  

In this podcast we chat about our physical Body, our Soul or Psyche, and our Spirit or Mind. Or we can say: what we sense, what we 'feel' and what we think. We can also say 'our Emotional or Psychic nature' for the Soul, and 'our Mental nature' for the Spirit. Our aim is to distinguish between these three underlying states so that we can begin the work of self-transformation and liberation. The essential start point is that we observe how we act, feel and think - in all our daily activities. After that we can start to ask 'why' we automatically act, feel and think in a particular way. And if we want to, we can change our 'automatic' or habitual response. 

Contact: lilyandeagle@googlemail.com
www.archatoz.net
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]]> This is the first OL+E podcast in our third series on the Insights of Marie Routchine-Dupre, the founder of the Order of the Lily and the Eagle.  

In this podcast we chat about our physical Body, our Soul or Psyche, and our Spirit or Mind. Or we can say: what we sense, what we 'feel' and what we think. We can also say 'our Emotional or Psychic nature' for the Soul, and 'our Mental nature' for the Spirit. Our aim is to distinguish between these three underlying states so that we can begin the work of self-transformation and liberation. The essential start point is that we observe how we act, feel and think - in all our daily activities. After that we can start to ask 'why' we automatically act, feel and think in a particular way. And if we want to, we can change our 'automatic' or habitual response. 

Contact: lilyandeagle@googlemail.com
www.archatoz.net
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]]> KP and Larry Van Vleet Buzzsprout-17417291 Thu, 10 Jul 2025 09:00:00 -0600 1033 s3, e1 3 1 full false Series 2-1: What is the Order of the Lily and Eagle Series 2-1: What is the Order of the Lily and Eagle This OL+E podcast discusses what is the purpose of the Order of the Lily and Eagle which was founded by Marie Routchine-Dupre in 1915.  

In this episode we talk about what the Order is and how it provides practical guidance for someone interested in the work of transformation.  We also discuss about how our approach to the work of the Order takes place, and how someone can become involved in our work.

Contact: lilyandeagle@googlemail.com
www.archatoz.net
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]]> This OL+E podcast discusses what is the purpose of the Order of the Lily and Eagle which was founded by Marie Routchine-Dupre in 1915.  

In this episode we talk about what the Order is and how it provides practical guidance for someone interested in the work of transformation.  We also discuss about how our approach to the work of the Order takes place, and how someone can become involved in our work.

Contact: lilyandeagle@googlemail.com
www.archatoz.net
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]]> KP and Larry Van Vleet Buzzsprout-13721960 Mon, 09 Oct 2023 07:00:00 -0600 1580 s2 2 1 full false Series 2-2: Working with the Order Series 2-2: Working with the Order This OL+E podcast on the Insights of Marie Routchine-Dupre, looks at what it means to work with the Order, and how the OL+E attempts to help people apply the Teachings in a practical manner in their daily life.  Change comes about in a vast number of ways and our job is to help everyone to find out what works for them.  You may be surprised at what this means for your own personal work.

Contact: lilyandeagle@googlemail.com
www.archatoz.net
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]]> This OL+E podcast on the Insights of Marie Routchine-Dupre, looks at what it means to work with the Order, and how the OL+E attempts to help people apply the Teachings in a practical manner in their daily life.  Change comes about in a vast number of ways and our job is to help everyone to find out what works for them.  You may be surprised at what this means for your own personal work.

Contact: lilyandeagle@googlemail.com
www.archatoz.net
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]]> KP and Larry Van Vleet Buzzsprout-13729687 Sun, 08 Oct 2023 11:00:00 -0600 1097 s2 2 2 full false Series 2-3: How to be Happy Series 2-3: How to be Happy This OL+E podcast on the Insights of Marie Routchine-Dupre, we take a look at something that is both critically important in self-initiation and self-development, the genuine need of each and everyone - the need to be happy.  

In general, we have found that there is a great deal of confusion over what it means to be happy.  Yet, from the Order's perspective, being "happy" is essential to the first step in our true Initatic work. Happiness is, in essence, to become normal and balanced.  In this episode we try to examine this from a practical point of view.

Contact: lilyandeagle@googlemail.com
www.archatoz.net
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]]> This OL+E podcast on the Insights of Marie Routchine-Dupre, we take a look at something that is both critically important in self-initiation and self-development, the genuine need of each and everyone - the need to be happy.  

In general, we have found that there is a great deal of confusion over what it means to be happy.  Yet, from the Order's perspective, being "happy" is essential to the first step in our true Initatic work. Happiness is, in essence, to become normal and balanced.  In this episode we try to examine this from a practical point of view.

Contact: lilyandeagle@googlemail.com
www.archatoz.net
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]]> Kevin Pugh and Larry Van Vleet Buzzsprout-13733636 Sat, 07 Oct 2023 09:00:00 -0600 1893 s2 2 3 full false Series 2-4: How do we know what's right for us Series 2-4: How do we know what's right for us In this is OL+E podcast on Marie's Insights, we explore some thoughts on what goes into knowing what is right or wrong for us.   

This is difficult to know and everything around us stuffs us with alien points of view that often keep us from expressing who we really are.  Unfortunately, no one can discover or express their own dissimilar personality if we measure who we are based on what other people are thinking and feeling. These are the external  influences that we must overcome.

Contact: lilyandeagle@googlemail.com
www.archatoz.net
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]]> In this is OL+E podcast on Marie's Insights, we explore some thoughts on what goes into knowing what is right or wrong for us.   

This is difficult to know and everything around us stuffs us with alien points of view that often keep us from expressing who we really are.  Unfortunately, no one can discover or express their own dissimilar personality if we measure who we are based on what other people are thinking and feeling. These are the external  influences that we must overcome.

Contact: lilyandeagle@googlemail.com
www.archatoz.net
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]]> Kevin Pugh and Larry Van Vleet Buzzsprout-13738115 Fri, 06 Oct 2023 13:00:00 -0600 1708 s2 2 4 full false Series 2-5: Chat on the Personality Series 2-5: Chat on the Personality In this OL+E podcasts on the Insights of Marie Routchine-Dupre we explore what "Personality" is from the Order's point of view and why developing a free and independent personality is the foundation of all our own work. 

Contact: lilyandeagle@googlemail.com
www.archatoz.net
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]]> In this OL+E podcasts on the Insights of Marie Routchine-Dupre we explore what "Personality" is from the Order's point of view and why developing a free and independent personality is the foundation of all our own work. 

Contact: lilyandeagle@googlemail.com
www.archatoz.net
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]]> KP and Larry Van Vleet Buzzsprout-13743346 Thu, 05 Oct 2023 04:00:00 -0600 1140 s2, e5 2 5 full false Insight Talk # 4 - On Obstacles to Expressing Dissimilarity Insight Talk # 4 - On Obstacles to Expressing Dissimilarity This is the 4th of our podcasts on the insights of Marie Routchine the founder of the Order of the Lily and the Eagle.  We discuss the idea that we are all dissimilar and  uniquely, and we cannot be truly happy and productive, until we discover how to manifest our uniqueness.  We look at how dissimilarity gets distorted by the environment around us.  Understanding these distortions is Marie’s 4th insight, and is why we lose connection with what we truly are.

Contact: lilyandeagle@googlemail.com
www.archatoz.net
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]]> This is the 4th of our podcasts on the insights of Marie Routchine the founder of the Order of the Lily and the Eagle.  We discuss the idea that we are all dissimilar and  uniquely, and we cannot be truly happy and productive, until we discover how to manifest our uniqueness.  We look at how dissimilarity gets distorted by the environment around us.  Understanding these distortions is Marie’s 4th insight, and is why we lose connection with what we truly are.

Contact: lilyandeagle@googlemail.com
www.archatoz.net
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]]> Kevin Pugh and Larry Van Vleet Buzzsprout-2938120 Sat, 19 Dec 2020 07:00:00 -0700 3874 s1, e4 1 4 full false The Insights of Marie Routchine - Introductory Talk #1 The Insights of Marie Routchine - Introductory Talk #1 This podcast is the first in a series on the insights of Marie Routchine, co-founder of the Order of the Lily and the Eagle.  It serves both as an introduction to Marie’s vision regarding the work of personal change as well an introduction to the on-going work of the Order today.  Starting with some background on the Order itself, we then go into what is Marie’s fundamental insight - the idea of “freedom” and freedom’s absolutely essential role in support of human happiness.  

Contact: lilyandeagle@googlemail.com
www.archatoz.net
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]]> This podcast is the first in a series on the insights of Marie Routchine, co-founder of the Order of the Lily and the Eagle.  It serves both as an introduction to Marie’s vision regarding the work of personal change as well an introduction to the on-going work of the Order today.  Starting with some background on the Order itself, we then go into what is Marie’s fundamental insight - the idea of “freedom” and freedom’s absolutely essential role in support of human happiness.  

Contact: lilyandeagle@googlemail.com
www.archatoz.net
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]]> Kevin Pugh and Larry Van vleet Buzzsprout-2526490 Thu, 03 Sep 2020 03:00:00 -0600 1439 s1, e1 1 1 full false