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    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Composers Chris Roe (Bad Apples, The Salt Path, Trigger Point, After Love) and Paul Saunderson (Earth, Human, Evolution, Trying, Fightland) sit down together to talk about how their scores actually get made.  Chris explains how Bad Apples arrived as a log line with a Bartók reference attached, why he built the score around recorders, baritone sax and a tubax only two people in London can play, and how an iPhone recording made by a flautist at home survived into the final mix. Paul explains ho...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p>Composers Chris Roe (Bad Apples, The Salt Path, Trigger Point, After Love) and Paul Saunderson (Earth, Human, Evolution, Trying, Fightland) sit down together to talk about how their scores actually get made.<br/><br/>Chris explains how Bad Apples arrived as a log line with a Bartók reference attached, why he built the score around recorders, baritone sax and a tubax only two people in London can play, and how an iPhone recording made by a flautist at home survived into the final mix.</p><p>Paul explains how a library album he recorded in Studio One at Abbey Road ended up getting him the BBC&apos;s Earth, why the strings on Human are all cellos and basses with hardly any violas, and how a single day in a percussionist&apos;s flat became the rhythmic toolkit for an entire series.</p><p>Along the way: the E-Bow accident that set the sound of Trigger Point, salt poured over a mandolin for The Salt Path, why you should go to every dub, and what happens when a mixer quietly replaces your score with generic drones. </p><p><b>GUESTS </b></p><p>Chris Roe: <a href='https://www.chrisroemusic.com/'>website</a> · <a href='https://www.instagram.com/chrisroemusic'>Instagram</a> </p><p>Paul Saunderson: <a href='https://paulsaunderson.com/'>website</a> · <a href='https://www.instagram.com/paul.saunderson'>Instagram</a> </p><p>The Composer Connection brings two screen composers together for an unguarded conversation about the craft. New episodes every month. </p><p>Made by <a href='https://outliercreates.com/'>Outlier Creative</a> - a content house for screen music. We work with composers, libraries and publishers on video, campaigns and press.</p>]]></description>
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