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    <itunes:title>Episode 434: Reading the Spec Sheet on Microsoft’s Agentic SOC</itunes:title>
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    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Welcome to Episode 434 of the Microsoft Cloud IT Pro Podcast. Microsoft announced Project Perception on 2026-07-27 with a lot of “workforce of AI agents” language. In this episode, Ben and Scott discuss what Perception really is, what it needs from your tenant, what it costs, and what happens the first time an agent asks you to approve something. Six agents. Seven playbooks. Every one manually triggered. Each agent gets its own Entra Agent ID and a permission grant. There’s a lot to unpack. 
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    <description><![CDATA[<p>Welcome to Episode 434 of the Microsoft Cloud IT Pro Podcast. Microsoft announced Project Perception on 2026-07-27 with a lot of “workforce of AI agents” language. In this episode, Ben and Scott discuss what Perception really is, what it needs from your tenant, what it costs, and what happens the first time an agent asks you to approve something. Six agents. Seven playbooks. Every one manually triggered. Each agent gets its own Entra Agent ID and a permission grant. There’s a lot to unpack.</p>
<p><strong>Your support makes this show possible! Please consider becoming a premium member for access to live shows and more. Check out our <a href='https://www.msclouditpropodcast.com/membership'>membership options</a>.</strong></p>
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<p><strong>Show Notes</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Save $200 at <a class='RVDFChJswVRnGfgfLGuwQIqBPRqoGHOWSrA ' tabindex='0' href='https://www.techcon365.com/Seattle/' data-test-app-aware-link=''>TechCon365</a> with code Ben200: <a class='RVDFChJswVRnGfgfLGuwQIqBPRqoGHOWSrA ' tabindex='0' href='https://www.techcon365.com/Seattle/' data-test-app-aware-link=''>https://www.techcon365.com/Seattle/</a></li>
<li><a href='https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/security/agentic-security/agentic-security-overview'>What is Project Perception?</a></li>
<li><a href='https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/blog/microsoft-security-blog/how-nationwide-stays-ahead-of-attackers-with-project-perception/4540534'>How Nationwide stays ahead of attackers with Project Perception</a></li>
<li><a href='https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/security/agentic-security/agentic-security-concepts'>Key concepts in Project Perception</a></li>
<li><a href='https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/security/agentic-security/agentic-security-agent-categories'>Agent categories in Project Perception</a></li>
<li><a href='https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/copilot/security/security-compute-units-capacity'>Microsoft Security Copilot Security Compute Units and capacity</a></li>
<li><a href='https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/security/agentic-security/agentic-security-playbooks'>Work with playbooks in Project Perception</a></li>
</ul>
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<p></p>
<p data-heading='Prior podcast context'><strong>Prior podcast context</strong></p>
<ul>
<li><a class='internal-link' href='episodes/ep431-2026-07-02-agent-governance-is-the-new-app-governance' data-href='episodes/ep431-2026-07-02-agent-governance-is-the-new-app-governance' aria-label='episodes/ep431-2026-07-02-agent-governance-is-the-new-app-governance' data-tooltip-position='top'>Ep 431: Agent Governance Is the New App Governance</a></li>
<li><a class='internal-link' href='episodes/ep419-2026-01-15-security-and-ai-security-store-security-copilot-and-agents' data-href='episodes/ep419-2026-01-15-security-and-ai-security-store-security-copilot-and-agents' aria-label='episodes/ep419-2026-01-15-security-and-ai-security-store-security-copilot-and-agents' data-tooltip-position='top'>Ep 419: Security and AI</a> </li>
<li><a class='internal-link' href='episodes/ep416-2025-12-04-microsoft-sentinel-security-and-ignite-with-henrik-wojcik' data-href='episodes/ep416-2025-12-04-microsoft-sentinel-security-and-ignite-with-henrik-wojcik' aria-label='episodes/ep416-2025-12-04-microsoft-sentinel-security-and-ignite-with-henrik-wojcik' data-tooltip-position='top'>Ep 416</a> and <a class='internal-link' href='episodes/ep412-2025-10-09-microsoft-sentinel-gets-a-data-lake' data-href='episodes/ep412-2025-10-09-microsoft-sentinel-gets-a-data-lake' aria-label='episodes/ep412-2025-10-09-microsoft-sentinel-gets-a-data-lake' data-tooltip-position='top'>Ep 412</a> </li>
<li><a class='internal-link' href='episodes/ep406-2025-07-17-agents-of-insight-copilot-in-action-and-sentinel-on-the-move' data-href='episodes/ep406-2025-07-17-agents-of-insight-copilot-in-action-and-sentinel-on-the-move' aria-label='episodes/ep406-2025-07-17-agents-of-insight-copilot-in-action-and-sentinel-on-the-move' data-tooltip-position='top'>Ep 406: Agents of Insight</a> </li>
<li><a class='internal-link' href='episodes/ep377-2024-05-23-microsoft-copilot-for-security' data-href='episodes/ep377-2024-05-23-microsoft-copilot-for-security' aria-label='episodes/ep377-2024-05-23-microsoft-copilot-for-security' data-tooltip-position='top'>Ep 377: Microsoft Copilot for Security</a> </li>
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<p><strong><a href='https://www.nasuni.com/roi-calculator/?utm_source=intelligink-llc-campaign&amp;utm_medium=paid-podcast&amp;utm_content=show-notes'>Nasuni</a></strong> is a leading unstructured data platform for enterprises where file data is mission-critical for both people and AI. Nasuni powers the operational file layer where work happens — helping organizations manage, protect, and activate data so teams can work smarter, reduce costs, and operate securely without limits.</p>
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<p><strong><a href='https://www.intelligink.com/'>Intelligink</a></strong> — Would you like to become the irreplaceable Microsoft 365 resource for your organization? <a href='mailto:bstegink@intelligink.com?subject=Irreplaceable%20Microsoft%20365%20resource&amp;body=Yes%2C%20I%20would%20love%20to%20become%20that%20resource!'>Let us know!</a></p>
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    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Welcome to Episode 434 of the Microsoft Cloud IT Pro Podcast. Microsoft announced Project Perception on 2026-07-27 with a lot of “workforce of AI agents” language. In this episode, Ben and Scott discuss what Perception really is, what it needs from your tenant, what it costs, and what happens the first time an agent asks you to approve something. Six agents. Seven playbooks. Every one manually triggered. Each agent gets its own Entra Agent ID and a permission grant. There’s a lot to unpack.</p>
<p><strong>Your support makes this show possible! Please consider becoming a premium member for access to live shows and more. Check out our <a href='https://www.msclouditpropodcast.com/membership'>membership options</a>.</strong></p>
<p></p>
<p><strong>Show Notes</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Save $200 at <a class='RVDFChJswVRnGfgfLGuwQIqBPRqoGHOWSrA ' tabindex='0' href='https://www.techcon365.com/Seattle/' data-test-app-aware-link=''>TechCon365</a> with code Ben200: <a class='RVDFChJswVRnGfgfLGuwQIqBPRqoGHOWSrA ' tabindex='0' href='https://www.techcon365.com/Seattle/' data-test-app-aware-link=''>https://www.techcon365.com/Seattle/</a></li>
<li><a href='https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/security/agentic-security/agentic-security-overview'>What is Project Perception?</a></li>
<li><a href='https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/blog/microsoft-security-blog/how-nationwide-stays-ahead-of-attackers-with-project-perception/4540534'>How Nationwide stays ahead of attackers with Project Perception</a></li>
<li><a href='https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/security/agentic-security/agentic-security-concepts'>Key concepts in Project Perception</a></li>
<li><a href='https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/security/agentic-security/agentic-security-agent-categories'>Agent categories in Project Perception</a></li>
<li><a href='https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/copilot/security/security-compute-units-capacity'>Microsoft Security Copilot Security Compute Units and capacity</a></li>
<li><a href='https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/security/agentic-security/agentic-security-playbooks'>Work with playbooks in Project Perception</a></li>
</ul>
<p></p>
<p></p>
<p data-heading='Prior podcast context'><strong>Prior podcast context</strong></p>
<ul>
<li><a class='internal-link' href='episodes/ep431-2026-07-02-agent-governance-is-the-new-app-governance' data-href='episodes/ep431-2026-07-02-agent-governance-is-the-new-app-governance' aria-label='episodes/ep431-2026-07-02-agent-governance-is-the-new-app-governance' data-tooltip-position='top'>Ep 431: Agent Governance Is the New App Governance</a></li>
<li><a class='internal-link' href='episodes/ep419-2026-01-15-security-and-ai-security-store-security-copilot-and-agents' data-href='episodes/ep419-2026-01-15-security-and-ai-security-store-security-copilot-and-agents' aria-label='episodes/ep419-2026-01-15-security-and-ai-security-store-security-copilot-and-agents' data-tooltip-position='top'>Ep 419: Security and AI</a> </li>
<li><a class='internal-link' href='episodes/ep416-2025-12-04-microsoft-sentinel-security-and-ignite-with-henrik-wojcik' data-href='episodes/ep416-2025-12-04-microsoft-sentinel-security-and-ignite-with-henrik-wojcik' aria-label='episodes/ep416-2025-12-04-microsoft-sentinel-security-and-ignite-with-henrik-wojcik' data-tooltip-position='top'>Ep 416</a> and <a class='internal-link' href='episodes/ep412-2025-10-09-microsoft-sentinel-gets-a-data-lake' data-href='episodes/ep412-2025-10-09-microsoft-sentinel-gets-a-data-lake' aria-label='episodes/ep412-2025-10-09-microsoft-sentinel-gets-a-data-lake' data-tooltip-position='top'>Ep 412</a> </li>
<li><a class='internal-link' href='episodes/ep406-2025-07-17-agents-of-insight-copilot-in-action-and-sentinel-on-the-move' data-href='episodes/ep406-2025-07-17-agents-of-insight-copilot-in-action-and-sentinel-on-the-move' aria-label='episodes/ep406-2025-07-17-agents-of-insight-copilot-in-action-and-sentinel-on-the-move' data-tooltip-position='top'>Ep 406: Agents of Insight</a> </li>
<li><a class='internal-link' href='episodes/ep377-2024-05-23-microsoft-copilot-for-security' data-href='episodes/ep377-2024-05-23-microsoft-copilot-for-security' aria-label='episodes/ep377-2024-05-23-microsoft-copilot-for-security' data-tooltip-position='top'>Ep 377: Microsoft Copilot for Security</a> </li>
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<p><strong>Sponsors</strong></p>
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<p><a href='https://www.nasuni.com/?utm_source=intelligink-llc-campaign&amp;utm_medium=paid-podcast&amp;utm_campaign=ms-it-pro-podcast'><img fetchpriority='high' decoding='async' src='https://www.msclouditpropodcast.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/04/Nasuni_Inline_White_Gradient-300x169.png' alt='Nasuni logo' width='300' height='169'/></a></p>
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<p><strong><a href='https://www.nasuni.com/roi-calculator/?utm_source=intelligink-llc-campaign&amp;utm_medium=paid-podcast&amp;utm_content=show-notes'>Nasuni</a></strong> is a leading unstructured data platform for enterprises where file data is mission-critical for both people and AI. Nasuni powers the operational file layer where work happens — helping organizations manage, protect, and activate data so teams can work smarter, reduce costs, and operate securely without limits.</p>
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<p><a href='https://www.intelligink.com/'><img decoding='async' src='https://www.msclouditpropodcast.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/Intelligink-Logo-01-e1562032712776-300x218.png' alt='Intelligink logo' width='226' height='164'/></a></p>
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<p><strong><a href='https://www.intelligink.com/'>Intelligink</a></strong> — Would you like to become the irreplaceable Microsoft 365 resource for your organization? <a href='mailto:bstegink@intelligink.com?subject=Irreplaceable%20Microsoft%20365%20resource&amp;body=Yes%2C%20I%20would%20love%20to%20become%20that%20resource!'>Let us know!</a></p>
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    <itunes:title>Episode 433: Passkeys, Passwords, and the End of SMS MFA</itunes:title>
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    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Welcome to Episode 433 of the Microsoft Cloud IT Pro Podcast. In this episode, Ben and Scott discuss how Microsoft 365 authentication is moving from “make passwords safer with MFA” to “remove phishable authentication wherever possible.” The practical conversation for IT pros is no longer just whether MFA is enabled. It is which methods are allowed, which users are still on SMS or voice, how passkeys change the user experience, and how to balance security, accessibility, recovery, and support ...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p>Welcome to Episode 433 of the Microsoft Cloud IT Pro Podcast. In this episode, Ben and Scott discuss how Microsoft 365 authentication is moving from “make passwords safer with MFA” to “remove phishable authentication wherever possible.” The practical conversation for IT pros is no longer just whether MFA is enabled. It is which methods are allowed, which users are still on SMS or voice, how passkeys change the user experience, and how to balance security, accessibility, recovery, and support load.</p>
<p><strong>Your support makes this show possible! Please consider becoming a premium member for access to live shows and more. Check out our <a href='https://www.msclouditpropodcast.com/membership'>membership options</a>.</strong></p>
<p></p>
<p><strong>Show Notes</strong></p>
<ul>
<li><a href='https://www.howtogeek.com/passkeys-failing-most-predictable-reason/'>Passkeys were supposed to replace passwords, but they’re failing for the most predictable reason</a></li>
<li><a href='https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/entra/identity/authentication/overview-authentication'>Microsoft Entra authentication overview</a></li>
<li><a href='https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/entra/identity/authentication/concept-sms-voice-retirement'>Passkeys by default and retirement of Microsoft-provided SMS and voice authentication</a></li>
<li><a href='https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/entra/identity/authentication/how-to-deploy-phishing-resistant-passwordless-authentication'>Plan a phishing-resistant passwordless authentication deployment in Microsoft Entra ID</a></li>
<li><a href='https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/entra/identity/authentication/how-to-mfa-registration-campaign'>Run a registration campaign to set up a passkey or Microsoft Authenticator</a></li>
<li><a href='https://practical365.com/practical-protection-understanding-entra-id-and-passkeys/'>Practical Protection: Understanding Entra ID and Passkeys</a></li>
<li><a href='https://office365itpros.com/2025/10/22/passkey-setting-policy/'>Important Change Coming for Entra ID Passkeys in November 2025</a></li>
<li><a href='https://office365itpros.com/2026/07/14/entra-sms-one-time-code/?utm_source=rss&amp;utm_medium=rss&amp;utm_campaign=entra-sms-one-time-code'>Microsoft to Stop Providing Telephony-Based Authentication Methods for MFA in February 2027</a></li>
<li><a href='https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/entra/identity/authentication/how-to-authentication-passkeys-fido2'>How to enable passkeys (FIDO2) in Microsoft Entra ID</a></li>
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<p><a href='https://www.nasuni.com/?utm_source=intelligink-llc-campaign&amp;utm_medium=paid-podcast&amp;utm_campaign=ms-it-pro-podcast'><img decoding='async' src='https://www.msclouditpropodcast.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/04/Nasuni_Inline_White_Gradient-300x169.png' alt='Nasuni logo' width='300' height='169'/></a></p>
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<p><strong><a href='https://www.nasuni.com/roi-calculator/?utm_source=intelligink-llc-campaign&amp;utm_medium=paid-podcast&amp;utm_content=show-notes'>Nasuni</a></strong> is a leading unstructured data platform for enterprises where file data is mission-critical for both people and AI. Nasuni powers the operational file layer where work happens — helping organizations manage, protect, and activate data so teams can work smarter, reduce costs, and operate securely without limits.</p>
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<p><a href='https://www.intelligink.com/'><img loading='lazy' decoding='async' src='https://www.msclouditpropodcast.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/Intelligink-Logo-01-e1562032712776-300x218.png' alt='Intelligink logo' width='226' height='164'/></a></p>
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<p><strong><a href='https://www.intelligink.com/'>Intelligink</a></strong> — Would you like to become the irreplaceable Microsoft 365 resource for your organization? <a href='mailto:bstegink@intelligink.com?subject=Irreplaceable%20Microsoft%20365%20resource&amp;body=Yes%2C%20I%20would%20love%20to%20become%20that%20resource!'>Let us know!</a></p>
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    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Welcome to Episode 433 of the Microsoft Cloud IT Pro Podcast. In this episode, Ben and Scott discuss how Microsoft 365 authentication is moving from “make passwords safer with MFA” to “remove phishable authentication wherever possible.” The practical conversation for IT pros is no longer just whether MFA is enabled. It is which methods are allowed, which users are still on SMS or voice, how passkeys change the user experience, and how to balance security, accessibility, recovery, and support load.</p>
<p><strong>Your support makes this show possible! Please consider becoming a premium member for access to live shows and more. Check out our <a href='https://www.msclouditpropodcast.com/membership'>membership options</a>.</strong></p>
<p></p>
<p><strong>Show Notes</strong></p>
<ul>
<li><a href='https://www.howtogeek.com/passkeys-failing-most-predictable-reason/'>Passkeys were supposed to replace passwords, but they’re failing for the most predictable reason</a></li>
<li><a href='https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/entra/identity/authentication/overview-authentication'>Microsoft Entra authentication overview</a></li>
<li><a href='https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/entra/identity/authentication/concept-sms-voice-retirement'>Passkeys by default and retirement of Microsoft-provided SMS and voice authentication</a></li>
<li><a href='https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/entra/identity/authentication/how-to-deploy-phishing-resistant-passwordless-authentication'>Plan a phishing-resistant passwordless authentication deployment in Microsoft Entra ID</a></li>
<li><a href='https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/entra/identity/authentication/how-to-mfa-registration-campaign'>Run a registration campaign to set up a passkey or Microsoft Authenticator</a></li>
<li><a href='https://practical365.com/practical-protection-understanding-entra-id-and-passkeys/'>Practical Protection: Understanding Entra ID and Passkeys</a></li>
<li><a href='https://office365itpros.com/2025/10/22/passkey-setting-policy/'>Important Change Coming for Entra ID Passkeys in November 2025</a></li>
<li><a href='https://office365itpros.com/2026/07/14/entra-sms-one-time-code/?utm_source=rss&amp;utm_medium=rss&amp;utm_campaign=entra-sms-one-time-code'>Microsoft to Stop Providing Telephony-Based Authentication Methods for MFA in February 2027</a></li>
<li><a href='https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/entra/identity/authentication/how-to-authentication-passkeys-fido2'>How to enable passkeys (FIDO2) in Microsoft Entra ID</a></li>
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<p><a href='https://www.nasuni.com/?utm_source=intelligink-llc-campaign&amp;utm_medium=paid-podcast&amp;utm_campaign=ms-it-pro-podcast'><img decoding='async' src='https://www.msclouditpropodcast.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/04/Nasuni_Inline_White_Gradient-300x169.png' alt='Nasuni logo' width='300' height='169'/></a></p>
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<p><strong><a href='https://www.nasuni.com/roi-calculator/?utm_source=intelligink-llc-campaign&amp;utm_medium=paid-podcast&amp;utm_content=show-notes'>Nasuni</a></strong> is a leading unstructured data platform for enterprises where file data is mission-critical for both people and AI. Nasuni powers the operational file layer where work happens — helping organizations manage, protect, and activate data so teams can work smarter, reduce costs, and operate securely without limits.</p>
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