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    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Diane is joined by her Green Bay Area School District CTIO successor, Amy Jaeckel. They reminisce over Amy's first interview and how Diane came to know her as her own leader.  Be sure to follow Amy on LinkedIn: Amy Jaeckel Join BTW Slack Community: HERE Email us with any questions, comments, thoughts, or feedback: beneaththewaterpod@gmail.com Follow Beneath the Water on Instagram: @Beneaththewaterpod ------------------- Find Diane's latest adventures (podcasting, fishing, and beyond!): L...]]></itunes:summary>
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    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Florida-based technologist and professional learning specialist Victoria Thompson joins us for a lively discussion about her views on equity and diversity, her experiences around it, and the way she uses data to teach students about social justice.    This episode was recorded during ISTE 2026 in Orlando, Florida.   Check her out on LinkedIn: Victoria Thompson  Buy her book here: Elevate Equity in Edtech: Expanding Inclusive Leadership Through the ISTE Standards - Victoria Thompson   Ple...]]></itunes:summary>
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    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Indiana's very own Pete Just (former CoSN chair and Executive Director of Indiana's CTO Council) joins us this week to talk about building trust, encouraging collaboration, and having integrity as a leader. Join BTW Slack Community: HERE Email us with any questions, comments, thoughts, or feedback: beneaththewaterpod@gmail.com Follow Beneath the Water on Instagram: @Beneaththewaterpod ------------------- Find Diane's latest adventures (podcasting, fishing, and beyond!): LinkedIn Follow Friend...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p>Indiana&apos;s very own Pete Just (former CoSN chair and Executive Director of Indiana&apos;s CTO Council) joins us this week to talk about building trust, encouraging collaboration, and having integrity as a leader.</p><p>Join BTW Slack Community: <a href='https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSeYmeHL_ImgcD2-jerLCvkskWSuexV70FsOkfxWsecvXa7-nQ/viewform'><b><em>HERE</em></b></a></p><p>Email us with any questions, comments, thoughts, or feedback: <a href='mailto:beneaththewaterpod@gmail.com'><b><em>beneaththewaterpod@gmail.com</em></b></a></p><p>Follow Beneath the Water on Instagram: <a href='https://www.instagram.com/beneaththewaterpod/'><b><em>@Beneaththewaterpod</em></b></a></p><p>-------------------</p><p>Find Diane&apos;s latest adventures (podcasting, fishing, and beyond!): <a href='https://www.linkedin.com/in/diane-doersch-5407a651/'><b><em>LinkedIn</em></b></a></p><p>Follow Friends of Friends Recording: <a href='https://www.instagram.com/friendsoffriendsrecording'><b><em>Instagram</em></b></a></p><p><br/></p><p><br/></p>]]></description>
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    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Welcome to Beneath the Water's very first episode! This week join host Diane Doersch for a lively conversation with Dr. Adam Phyall, Director of Professional Learning and Leadership for All4Ed. Adam shares his leadership journey, the lessons he carries from his past, and, of course, how he coordinates his shoes with his outfits.  This episode was recorded on June 10, 2026, at Mountain Brook High School in Alabama during the Engage conference. Special thanks to Suzan Brandt for hosting us! Wan...]]></itunes:summary>
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    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Welcome to Beneath the Water&apos;s very first episode! This week join host Diane Doersch for a lively conversation with Dr. Adam Phyall, Director of Professional Learning and Leadership for All4Ed. Adam shares his leadership journey, the lessons he carries from his past, and, of course, how he coordinates his shoes with his outfits.<br/><br/>This episode was recorded on June 10, 2026, at Mountain Brook High School in Alabama during the Engage conference. Special thanks to Suzan Brandt for hosting us!</p><p>Want to connect with Dr. Adam Phyall? Follow him here: <a href='https://www.linkedin.com/in/adamphyall/'>LinkedIn</a></p><p>AAAAAND... if you would, please subscribe to this channel and leave a 5-star rating - this goes a very long way to help us reach others in EdTech that might need a place to belong.<br/><br/>----<br/><br/>Beneath the Water is a leadership podcast hosted by Diane Doersch, a longtime education technology leader, former district technology executive, and community builder who is now in her &quot;rewirement.&quot;</p><p>In each episode, Diane sits down with education technology leaders for the kind of conversation we do not hear often enough. These are not polished success stories or quick leadership tips. They are honest conversations about what is happening beneath the surface: the moments that shaped her guests, the challenges they had to work through, the lessons they carry, and the parts of leadership that are not always visible from the outside.<br/><br/>This podcast is for leaders who want to feel seen in their work and reminded that they are not alone.</p><p>Join BTW Slack Community: <a href='https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSeYmeHL_ImgcD2-jerLCvkskWSuexV70FsOkfxWsecvXa7-nQ/viewform'><b><em>HERE</em></b></a></p><p>Email us with any questions, comments, thoughts, or feedback: <a href='mailto:beneaththewaterpod@gmail.com'><b><em>beneaththewaterpod@gmail.com</em></b></a></p><p>Follow Beneath the Water on Instagram: <a href='https://www.instagram.com/beneaththewaterpod/'><b><em>@Beneaththewaterpod</em></b></a></p><p>-------------------</p><p>Find Diane&apos;s latest adventures (podcasting, fishing, and beyond!): <a href='https://www.linkedin.com/in/diane-doersch-5407a651/'><b><em>LinkedIn</em></b></a></p><p>Follow Friends of Friends Recording: <a href='https://www.instagram.com/friendsoffriendsrecording'><b><em>Instagram</em></b></a></p><p><br/></p><p><br/></p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Beneath the Water is a leadership podcast hosted by Diane Doersch, a longtime education technology leader, former district technology executive, and community builder who is now in her "rewirement." In each episode, Diane sits down with education technology leaders for the kind of conversation we do not hear often enough. These are not polished success stories or quick leadership tips. They are honest conversations about what is happening beneath the surface: the moments that shaped her guest...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p>Beneath the Water is a leadership podcast hosted by Diane Doersch, a longtime education technology leader, former district technology executive, and community builder who is now in her &quot;rewirement.&quot;</p><p>In each episode, Diane sits down with education technology leaders for the kind of conversation we do not hear often enough. These are not polished success stories or quick leadership tips. They are honest conversations about what is happening beneath the surface: the moments that shaped her guests, the challenges they had to work through, the lessons they carry, and the parts of leadership that are not always visible from the outside.</p><p>This podcast is for leaders who want to feel seen in their work and reminded that they are not alone.</p><p>Join BTW Slack Community: <a href='https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSeYmeHL_ImgcD2-jerLCvkskWSuexV70FsOkfxWsecvXa7-nQ/viewform'><b><em>HERE</em></b></a></p><p>Email us with any questions, comments, thoughts, or feedback: <a href='mailto:beneaththewaterpod@gmail.com'><b><em>beneaththewaterpod@gmail.com</em></b></a></p><p>Follow Beneath the Water on Instagram: <a href='https://www.instagram.com/beneaththewaterpod/'><b><em>@Beneaththewaterpod</em></b></a></p><p>-------------------</p><p>Find Diane&apos;s latest adventures (podcasting, fishing, and beyond!): <a href='https://www.linkedin.com/in/diane-doersch-5407a651/'><b><em>LinkedIn</em></b></a></p><p>Follow Friends of Friends Recording: <a href='https://www.instagram.com/friendsoffriendsrecording'><b><em>Instagram</em></b></a></p><p><br/></p><p><br/></p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Beneath the Water is a leadership podcast hosted by Diane Doersch, a longtime education technology leader, former district technology executive, and community builder who is now in her &quot;rewirement.&quot;</p><p>In each episode, Diane sits down with education technology leaders for the kind of conversation we do not hear often enough. These are not polished success stories or quick leadership tips. They are honest conversations about what is happening beneath the surface: the moments that shaped her guests, the challenges they had to work through, the lessons they carry, and the parts of leadership that are not always visible from the outside.</p><p>This podcast is for leaders who want to feel seen in their work and reminded that they are not alone.</p><p>Join BTW Slack Community: <a href='https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSeYmeHL_ImgcD2-jerLCvkskWSuexV70FsOkfxWsecvXa7-nQ/viewform'><b><em>HERE</em></b></a></p><p>Email us with any questions, comments, thoughts, or feedback: <a href='mailto:beneaththewaterpod@gmail.com'><b><em>beneaththewaterpod@gmail.com</em></b></a></p><p>Follow Beneath the Water on Instagram: <a href='https://www.instagram.com/beneaththewaterpod/'><b><em>@Beneaththewaterpod</em></b></a></p><p>-------------------</p><p>Find Diane&apos;s latest adventures (podcasting, fishing, and beyond!): <a href='https://www.linkedin.com/in/diane-doersch-5407a651/'><b><em>LinkedIn</em></b></a></p><p>Follow Friends of Friends Recording: <a href='https://www.instagram.com/friendsoffriendsrecording'><b><em>Instagram</em></b></a></p><p><br/></p><p><br/></p>]]></content:encoded>
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