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    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Money is the conversation most couples in business avoid the longest. In Episode 5 of The Other Owner, Todd and Alex finally have it out loud. This one's going to hit close to home. ]]></itunes:summary>
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    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[The hardest part of running a business with your spouse isn't the work. It's knowing when to stop. Episode 4 of The Other Owner is the conversation about what happens when the business follows you home — and what you do about it. ]]></itunes:summary>
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    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[His name is on the business. Her fingerprints are all over it. Episode 3 of The Other Owner is the conversation about visibility, identity, and what equal ownership really means when you're building something together. ]]></itunes:summary>
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    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[What happens when one of you is ready to make a decision before the other one has even finished thinking it through? In this episode, Todd and Alex get honest about how differently they process, communicate, and make decisions — and what that's looked like inside their business over the years. Spoiler: it hasn't always been pretty. But they're figuring it out — and if you're running a business with your partner, you probably will too. ]]></itunes:summary>
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    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Ten years. One business. One marriage. In this first episode of The Other Owner, Todd and Alex get honest about how they got here — the roles they planned, the ones they actually ended up with, and the moment they realized building a business together is a whole different challenge than just building a business. Welcome to the real conversation. ]]></itunes:summary>
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