From flip phones and moving out for the first time to validation seeking, hyper-independence, trust issues, and whether the apps helped or hurt, the boys unpack the survival mechanisms they've picked up along the way—and the ones they're still trying to leave behind.

Plus, the return of and THAT's 1 Thing Straight & 2 Things Gay, where listeners write in looking for advice on dating, self-worth, vulnerability, and the complicated art of letting people in.

Come for the Pride stories. Stay for the emotional growth, dating app grievances, and the realization that maybe we're all just trying our best.

...and THAT's a pod convo.

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For Episode 2 of and THAT's a PRIDE convo, we're joined by Anthony, Momo, and Lizette to talk about the signs, the denial, the phases, and the moments that made us stop and say, "oh..."

Anthony delivers some of the most clip-worthy moments of the series, Momo helps us unpack the idea of phases and self-discovery, and Lizette does what any good friend in the group chat does—accidentally turns the conversation into therapy.

Along the way, we talk crushes, labels, realization stories, and the pressure of having everything figured out.

And yes, there were technical difficulties. Mics cut out, audio got a little chaotic, and at times technology reminded us who's really in charge. But honestly? It wouldn't be a gay podcast without at least one avoidable technical issue.

The audio may not be perfect, but the stories are real.

Welcome back to the group chat. 🌈☕️🎙️

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This week, we're giving you two episodes because apparently one conversation wasn't enough.

We're talking about Jed's latest cruise adventures, Ariana Grande's new music, and the Taylor Swift x Toy Story crossover that we are entirely here for. We also discuss whether Taylor might be dropping subtle hints at a return to her country roots, because naturally we have thoughts.

From there, we spiral into Disney movies, horror films, and all the random tangents in between.

It's one of those episodes where we start with a plan and immediately abandon it.

So whether you're here for pop culture, Disney nostalgia, scary movies, or just two friends attempting to stay on topic, pull up a seat and join the group chat.

Because sometimes the best conversations are the ones that make absolutely no sense on paper.

...and THAT's a pod convo. ☕️🎙️

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We talk about the signs we ignored, the roles we played, and the idea that maybe we're all born naked and the rest is drag. Because whether you're LGBTQ+ or not, most people spend some part of their life performing for someone else.

From suspicious celebrity crushes and "totally straight" hobbies to deeper conversations about identity, authenticity, and taking back ownership of the word closet, this episode is funny, honest, emotional, and surprisingly relatable.

Because sometimes the closet wasn't quiet at all.

It was VERY loud. 🌈☕🎙️

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No, seriously. Gone. Vanished. Taken by the podcast gods. Thoughts and prayers. 🕯️

So naturally, we did what any emotionally stable podcast would do and immediately replaced him. Enter ... well you will fnd out — their qualifications?

Obviously their resume includes trauma, chaotic opinions, and the ability to survive a group chat.

This week on and THAT’s a pod convo we spiral through:

💚 and THAT’s Shrek’s 25th anniversary
Because somehow Shrek shaped an entire generation emotionally, spiritually, and romantically.

👯 and THAT’s iconic duos
Best friend dynamics, chaotic pairings, and what truly makes two people insufferable together.

🥛 and THAT’s food intolerance
At what point does your stomach become your biggest opp?

❤️ and THAT’s your type
Red flags, green flags, dating delusions, and the horrifying realization that sometimes your “type” is just emotional instability with good eyebrows.

📱 Plus another round of and THAT’s 1 thing Straight & 2 things Gay — where we answer advice/questions that absolutely should’ve stayed in the group chat.

It’s messy. It’s dramatic. It’s concerning how quickly we moved on from the original co-host.

… and THAT’s a pod convo. 🎤

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