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    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[This is the first time I've sat down with someone for Drive by AI, and it's a good one. I'm in the studio with Ange Kallinikos, founder of AussieTel Technologies, who's been deep in conversational AI for the past few years. We talk about the customer experience side of AI that doesn't get enough airtime, why some people love AI answering the phone and others reject it on instinct.  I share a story about a cafe that nailed the experience so well I didn't realise I was talking to a bot unt...]]></itunes:summary>
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    <itunes:title>Stop Chasing AI Agents. Do This First - Ep 002</itunes:title>
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    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Recorded on the way to work, Episode 2. Everyone's chasing AI agents and autonomous workflows right now.  OpenClaude, agentic this, agentic that. Cool to play with, not ready for serious businesses. In this episode, I break down a much more practical framework for AI adoption in your business. Three clear levels, in the right order, so you stop jumping between random tools and actually build something that lifts productivity across the whole team. I cover why most teams skip the basics a...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p>Recorded on the way to work, Episode 2.</p><p>Everyone&apos;s chasing AI agents and autonomous workflows right now. </p><p>OpenClaude, agentic this, agentic that. Cool to play with, not ready for serious businesses.</p><p>In this episode, I break down a much more practical framework for AI adoption in your business. Three clear levels, in the right order, so you stop jumping between random tools and actually build something that lifts productivity across the whole team.</p><p>I cover why most teams skip the basics and pay for it later, the real difference between free and paid AI tools, how local file integration with tools like Claude Code and Claude Cowork changes the way you work, and when agentic workflows genuinely make sense. I also share a client example where we automated thousands of purchase orders for 5-10x cost savings versus doing it manually.</p><p>Built for founders, operators, and exec teams running real businesses, not startup demos.</p><p>This is Drive by AI with Jon Wellman.</p>]]></description>
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    <itunes:title>AI Finally Got Real - Ep 001</itunes:title>
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    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Welcome to Drive by AI. This is my first attempt at recording a podcast on the morning commute, so expect some background noise. I've been pretty critical of AI hype for the last year, and most of the 10x productivity claims still don't stack up. But something genuinely shifted recently. The models got smarter. Coding agents like Claude Code matured. The work coming out actually holds up to our standards at Vokke now. In this episode, I cover: What changed with AI in software developmentWhy I...]]></itunes:summary>
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    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Welcome to Drive by AI. This is my first attempt at recording a podcast on the morning commute, so expect some background noise.</p><p>I&apos;ve been pretty critical of AI hype for the last year, and most of the 10x productivity claims still don&apos;t stack up. But something genuinely shifted recently. The models got smarter. Coding agents like Claude Code matured. The work coming out actually holds up to our standards at Vokke now.</p><p>In this episode, I cover:</p><ul><li>What changed with AI in software development</li><li>Why I&apos;m still not buying every productivity claim on LinkedIn</li><li>How AI is reshaping work for regulated industries like finance, defence, and healthcare</li><li>Why software is the canary in the coal mine for every other knowledge industry</li><li>Why human review still matters when adopting AI in your business</li></ul><p>Honest take from a founder who builds high-assurance AI systems for serious operators. </p><p>If you&apos;re listening, let me know if the format works.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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