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    <itunes:title>Gracie Binion Wrote “Goodbye Yesterday,” Heard God’s Voice, and Talks Fake Prophecy</itunes:title>
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    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Gracie Binion sits down with Dwan and Shama to talk about writing “Goodbye Yesterday,” hearing the audible voice of God, navigating fake prophecy, and what it actually looks like to release secular music as a worship leader. She opens up about growing up in a ministry family, leaving a toxic relationship, receiving prophetic words at 13 that did not make sense until she got married, and why she still believes God speaks even when the prophetic movement has been misused. Grown Up Church Kids i...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p>Gracie Binion sits down with Dwan and Shama to talk about writing “Goodbye Yesterday,” hearing the audible voice of God, navigating fake prophecy, and what it actually looks like to release secular music as a worship leader. She opens up about growing up in a ministry family, leaving a toxic relationship, receiving prophetic words at 13 that did not make sense until she got married, and why she still believes God speaks even when the prophetic movement has been misused. Grown Up Church Kids is where Sunday morning meets real life.</p><p><br/></p><p>ABOUT THE SHOW:</p><p>Grown Up Church Kids is more than a show, it’s a full-circle moment where Sunday Morning Meets Real Life. Bringing together community, conversations, shared stories, and songs that shaped a generation, this is a space for Grown-Up Church Kids to reconnect with their roots, redefine their journeys, and celebrate the faith together.</p><p><br/></p><p>There are more of us than you think.</p><p><br/></p><p>🔔 Subscribe on YouTube</p><p>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC9KOBazbPvWdcopb_dd1M5g</p><p><br/></p><p>🎧 Listen on Audio</p><p>https://www.buzzsprout.com/2607662</p><p><br/></p><p>📚 Resources</p><p><a href='https://amzn.to/3PISqfX'>https://amzn.to/3PISqfX</a></p><p>FOLLOW</p><p><br/></p><p>More from Dwan Hill</p><p>YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@DwanHill</p><p>Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dwanhill</p><p>Website: https://www.dwanhill.com/</p><p><br/></p><p>More from Shama Mrema</p><p>YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/AfterSchoolProgram</p><p>Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/shama4realz</p><p>Website: https://www.shamamrema.com/</p><p><br/></p><p>More from Grown-Up Church Kids</p><p>YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC9KOBazbPvWdcopb_dd1M5g</p><p>Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/grownup.churchkids/</p><p><br/></p><p>Website: https://www.grownupchurchkids.com/</p><p><br/></p><p>More from The Choir Room</p><p>YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@thechoirroom</p><p>Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/the.choirroom/?hl=en</p><p>Website: https://www.choirisback.com/</p><p><br/></p><p>CREDITS:</p><p>Director &amp; Editor: Kyle Whittaker</p><p>Producer: Hannah Gifford (Open Hand Management)</p><p>Production Assistants: Sarah Bush, Abby Loomis</p><p>Audio: Garrett Miller, Aaron Rochotte</p><p>Video: Seth Scruggs</p><p>Video, Photo &amp; Social: Jordan Rubino</p><p>Management: Annie Cunningham</p><p><br/></p><p>#grownupchurchkids #dwanhill #shamamrema #graciebinion #thechoirroom #faithjourney #churchkid</p><p><br/></p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gracie Binion sits down with Dwan and Shama to talk about writing “Goodbye Yesterday,” hearing the audible voice of God, navigating fake prophecy, and what it actually looks like to release secular music as a worship leader. She opens up about growing up in a ministry family, leaving a toxic relationship, receiving prophetic words at 13 that did not make sense until she got married, and why she still believes God speaks even when the prophetic movement has been misused. Grown Up Church Kids is where Sunday morning meets real life.</p><p><br/></p><p>ABOUT THE SHOW:</p><p>Grown Up Church Kids is more than a show, it’s a full-circle moment where Sunday Morning Meets Real Life. Bringing together community, conversations, shared stories, and songs that shaped a generation, this is a space for Grown-Up Church Kids to reconnect with their roots, redefine their journeys, and celebrate the faith together.</p><p><br/></p><p>There are more of us than you think.</p><p><br/></p><p>🔔 Subscribe on YouTube</p><p>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC9KOBazbPvWdcopb_dd1M5g</p><p><br/></p><p>🎧 Listen on Audio</p><p>https://www.buzzsprout.com/2607662</p><p><br/></p><p>📚 Resources</p><p><a href='https://amzn.to/3PISqfX'>https://amzn.to/3PISqfX</a></p><p>FOLLOW</p><p><br/></p><p>More from Dwan Hill</p><p>YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@DwanHill</p><p>Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dwanhill</p><p>Website: https://www.dwanhill.com/</p><p><br/></p><p>More from Shama Mrema</p><p>YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/AfterSchoolProgram</p><p>Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/shama4realz</p><p>Website: https://www.shamamrema.com/</p><p><br/></p><p>More from Grown-Up Church Kids</p><p>YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC9KOBazbPvWdcopb_dd1M5g</p><p>Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/grownup.churchkids/</p><p><br/></p><p>Website: https://www.grownupchurchkids.com/</p><p><br/></p><p>More from The Choir Room</p><p>YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@thechoirroom</p><p>Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/the.choirroom/?hl=en</p><p>Website: https://www.choirisback.com/</p><p><br/></p><p>CREDITS:</p><p>Director &amp; Editor: Kyle Whittaker</p><p>Producer: Hannah Gifford (Open Hand Management)</p><p>Production Assistants: Sarah Bush, Abby Loomis</p><p>Audio: Garrett Miller, Aaron Rochotte</p><p>Video: Seth Scruggs</p><p>Video, Photo &amp; Social: Jordan Rubino</p><p>Management: Annie Cunningham</p><p><br/></p><p>#grownupchurchkids #dwanhill #shamamrema #graciebinion #thechoirroom #faithjourney #churchkid</p><p><br/></p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Trip Lee was 19 years old when he was diagnosed with chronic fatigue syndrome. He has never fully recovered. And in that body he has pastored churches, raised a family, and written some of the most worshipful music in Christian hip hop. In this episode of Grown Up Church Kids, Dwan sits down with Trip to talk about what it costs to follow Jesus when your body won’t cooperate, what it felt like to grow up caught between two cultures, and what he believes about a God who hasn’t said yes yet. Hi...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p>Trip Lee was 19 years old when he was diagnosed with chronic fatigue syndrome. He has never fully recovered. And in that body he has pastored churches, raised a family, and written some of the most worshipful music in Christian hip hop. In this episode of Grown Up Church Kids, Dwan sits down with Trip to talk about what it costs to follow Jesus when your body won’t cooperate, what it felt like to grow up caught between two cultures, and what he believes about a God who hasn’t said yes yet. His new album For Your Glory is out now. This conversation will stay with you.</p><p><br/></p><p>ABOUT THE SHOW:</p><p>Grown Up Church Kids is more than a show, it’s a full-circle moment where Sunday Morning Meets Real Life. Bringing together community, conversations, shared stories, and songs that shaped a generation, this is a space for Grown-Up Church Kids to reconnect with their roots, redefine their journeys, and celebrate the faith together.</p><p><br/></p><p>There are more of us than you think.</p><p><br/></p><p>🎟️ Live Show — Nashville (May 14)</p><p>https://www.analognashville.com/events/grown-up-church-kids-live/</p><p><br/></p><p>🔔 Subscribe on YouTube</p><p>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC9KOBazbPvWdcopb_dd1M5g</p><p><br/></p><p>🎧 Listen on Audio</p><p>https://www.buzzsprout.com/2607662</p><p><br/></p><p>📚 Resources</p><p><a href='https://amzn.to/3PISqfX'>https://amzn.to/3PISqfX</a></p><p>FOLLOW</p><p><br/></p><p>More from Dwan Hill</p><p>YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@DwanHill</p><p>Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dwanhill</p><p>Website: https://www.dwanhill.com/</p><p><br/></p><p>More from Shama Mrema</p><p>YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/AfterSchoolProgram</p><p>Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/shama4realz</p><p>Website: https://www.shamamrema.com/</p><p><br/></p><p>More from Grown-Up Church Kids</p><p>YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC9KOBazbPvWdcopb_dd1M5g</p><p>Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/grownup.churchkids/</p><p><br/></p><p>Website: https://www.grownupchurchkids.com/</p><p><br/></p><p>More from The Choir Room</p><p>YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@thechoirroom</p><p>Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/the.choirroom/?hl=en</p><p>Website: https://www.choirisback.com/</p><p><br/></p><p>CREDITS:</p><p>Director &amp; Editor: Kyle Whittaker</p><p>Producer: Hannah Gifford (Open Hand Management)</p><p>Production Assistants: Sarah Bush, Abby Loomis</p><p>Audio: Garrett Miller, Aaron Rochotte</p><p>Video: Seth Scruggs</p><p>Video, Photo &amp; Social: Jordan Rubino</p><p>Management: Annie Cunningham</p><p><br/></p><p>#grownupchurchkids #dwanhill #shamamrema #triplee #thechoirroom #faithjourney #churchkid</p><p><br/></p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Trip Lee was 19 years old when he was diagnosed with chronic fatigue syndrome. He has never fully recovered. And in that body he has pastored churches, raised a family, and written some of the most worshipful music in Christian hip hop. In this episode of Grown Up Church Kids, Dwan sits down with Trip to talk about what it costs to follow Jesus when your body won’t cooperate, what it felt like to grow up caught between two cultures, and what he believes about a God who hasn’t said yes yet. His new album For Your Glory is out now. This conversation will stay with you.</p><p><br/></p><p>ABOUT THE SHOW:</p><p>Grown Up Church Kids is more than a show, it’s a full-circle moment where Sunday Morning Meets Real Life. Bringing together community, conversations, shared stories, and songs that shaped a generation, this is a space for Grown-Up Church Kids to reconnect with their roots, redefine their journeys, and celebrate the faith together.</p><p><br/></p><p>There are more of us than you think.</p><p><br/></p><p>🎟️ Live Show — Nashville (May 14)</p><p>https://www.analognashville.com/events/grown-up-church-kids-live/</p><p><br/></p><p>🔔 Subscribe on YouTube</p><p>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC9KOBazbPvWdcopb_dd1M5g</p><p><br/></p><p>🎧 Listen on Audio</p><p>https://www.buzzsprout.com/2607662</p><p><br/></p><p>📚 Resources</p><p><a href='https://amzn.to/3PISqfX'>https://amzn.to/3PISqfX</a></p><p>FOLLOW</p><p><br/></p><p>More from Dwan Hill</p><p>YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@DwanHill</p><p>Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dwanhill</p><p>Website: https://www.dwanhill.com/</p><p><br/></p><p>More from Shama Mrema</p><p>YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/AfterSchoolProgram</p><p>Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/shama4realz</p><p>Website: https://www.shamamrema.com/</p><p><br/></p><p>More from Grown-Up Church Kids</p><p>YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC9KOBazbPvWdcopb_dd1M5g</p><p>Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/grownup.churchkids/</p><p><br/></p><p>Website: https://www.grownupchurchkids.com/</p><p><br/></p><p>More from The Choir Room</p><p>YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@thechoirroom</p><p>Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/the.choirroom/?hl=en</p><p>Website: https://www.choirisback.com/</p><p><br/></p><p>CREDITS:</p><p>Director &amp; Editor: Kyle Whittaker</p><p>Producer: Hannah Gifford (Open Hand Management)</p><p>Production Assistants: Sarah Bush, Abby Loomis</p><p>Audio: Garrett Miller, Aaron Rochotte</p><p>Video: Seth Scruggs</p><p>Video, Photo &amp; Social: Jordan Rubino</p><p>Management: Annie Cunningham</p><p><br/></p><p>#grownupchurchkids #dwanhill #shamamrema #triplee #thechoirroom #faithjourney #churchkid</p><p><br/></p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <itunes:title>DOE Palmer: No Disney, No Dating, New Baby, and a Grammy</itunes:title>
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    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Grammy-winning Christian artist DOE joins Grown Up Church Kids for a hilarious and honest conversation about growing up in church, and the rules a lot of church kids remember: no kissing, no Disney, no scary movies, no dating, and sometimes… no pants. From Pentecostal holiness culture and COGIC roots to Pokémon panic, purity culture, R-rated movies, dating, parenting, and spiritual conviction, this episode asks what protection was, what was fear, and what still matters now.   DOE also shares ...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p>Grammy-winning Christian artist DOE joins Grown Up Church Kids for a hilarious and honest conversation about growing up in church, and the rules a lot of church kids remember: no kissing, no Disney, no scary movies, no dating, and sometimes… no pants. From Pentecostal holiness culture and COGIC roots to Pokémon panic, purity culture, R-rated movies, dating, parenting, and spiritual conviction, this episode asks what protection was, what was fear, and what still matters now.</p><p><br/></p><p>DOE also shares how her bilingual church upbringing shaped her worship, how her family prayer times formed her songwriting, and what motherhood is teaching her about raising kids without trying to fix herself through them. If you grew up in church and are still sorting through the beauty, the baggage, and the funny rules that shaped you, this one is for you.</p><p><br/><br/><br/></p><p>ABOUT THE SHOW:</p><p>Grown Up Church Kids is more than a show, it’s a full-circle moment where Sunday Morning Meets Real Life. Bringing together community, conversations, shared stories, and songs that shaped a generation, this is a space for Grown-Up Church Kids to reconnect with their roots, redefine their journeys, and celebrate the faith together.</p><p><br/></p><p>There are more of us than you think.</p><p><br/></p><p>🎟️ Live Show — Nashville (May 14)</p><p>https://www.analognashville.com/events/grown-up-church-kids-live/</p><p><br/></p><p>🔔 Subscribe on YouTube</p><p>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC9KOBazbPvWdcopb_dd1M5g</p><p><br/></p><p>🎧 Listen on Audio</p><p>https://www.buzzsprout.com/2607662</p><p><br/></p><p>📚 Resources</p><p><a href='https://amzn.to/3PISqfX'>https://amzn.to/3PISqfX</a></p><p>FOLLOW</p><p><br/></p><p>00:00 No Power Rangers in Church</p><p>01:29 Welcome to Grown Up Church Kids</p><p>02:21 Movies Church Kids Couldn’t Watch</p><p>08:58 Meet DOE</p><p>10:28 DOE’s COGIC Roots</p><p>14:32 Growing Up in a Bilingual Church</p><p>20:16 Multicultural Worship &amp; Israel Houghton</p><p>25:57 Bible Games &amp; Sword Drills</p><p>31:44 DOE on R-Rated Movies</p><p>32:45 “Demon in My Pocket”</p><p>35:37 Parenting, Pokémon &amp; Conviction</p><p>39:31 Aladdin, Genies &amp; Spiritual Sensitivity</p><p>42:47 Christian Content We Can Trust</p><p>45:53 Scary Movies &amp; Fear</p><p>50:03 Dating as a Church Kid</p><p>53:50 Purity Culture and Marriage</p><p>59:09 The Testimony of Protection</p><p>1:04:47 Church Kids at House Parties</p><p>1:08:52 DOE’s Musical Influences</p><p>1:13:02 Songs Born in Prayer</p><p>1:14:19 Meet Baby Shiloh</p><p>1:15:44 Parenting Without Projecting</p><p>1:18:48 Final Thoughts &amp; Songs</p><p><br/></p><p>More from Dwan Hill</p><p>YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@DwanHill</p><p>Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dwanhill</p><p>Website: https://www.dwanhill.com/</p><p><br/></p><p>More from Shama Mrema</p><p>YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/AfterSchoolProgram</p><p>Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/shama4realz</p><p>Website: https://www.shamamrema.com/</p><p><br/></p><p>More from Grown-Up Church Kids</p><p>YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC9KOBazbPvWdcopb_dd1M5g</p><p>Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/grownup.churchkids/</p><p><br/></p><p>Website: https://www.grownupchurchkids.com/</p><p><br/></p><p>More from The Choir Room</p><p>YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@thechoirroom</p><p>Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/the.choirroom/?hl=en</p><p>Website: https://www.choirisback.com/</p><p><br/></p><p>CREDITS:</p><p>Director &amp; Editor: Kyle Whittaker</p><p>Producer: Hannah Gifford (Open Hand Management)</p><p>Production Assistants: Sarah Bush, Abby Loomis</p><p>Audio: Garrett Miller, Aaron Rochotte</p><p>Video: Seth Scruggs</p><p>Video, Photo &amp; Social: Jordan Rubino</p><p>Management: Annie Cunningham</p><p><br/></p><p>#grownupchurchkids #dwanhill #shamamrema #doe #thechoirroom #faithjourney #churchkid</p><p><br/></p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Grammy-winning Christian artist DOE joins Grown Up Church Kids for a hilarious and honest conversation about growing up in church, and the rules a lot of church kids remember: no kissing, no Disney, no scary movies, no dating, and sometimes… no pants. From Pentecostal holiness culture and COGIC roots to Pokémon panic, purity culture, R-rated movies, dating, parenting, and spiritual conviction, this episode asks what protection was, what was fear, and what still matters now.</p><p><br/></p><p>DOE also shares how her bilingual church upbringing shaped her worship, how her family prayer times formed her songwriting, and what motherhood is teaching her about raising kids without trying to fix herself through them. If you grew up in church and are still sorting through the beauty, the baggage, and the funny rules that shaped you, this one is for you.</p><p><br/><br/><br/></p><p>ABOUT THE SHOW:</p><p>Grown Up Church Kids is more than a show, it’s a full-circle moment where Sunday Morning Meets Real Life. Bringing together community, conversations, shared stories, and songs that shaped a generation, this is a space for Grown-Up Church Kids to reconnect with their roots, redefine their journeys, and celebrate the faith together.</p><p><br/></p><p>There are more of us than you think.</p><p><br/></p><p>🎟️ Live Show — Nashville (May 14)</p><p>https://www.analognashville.com/events/grown-up-church-kids-live/</p><p><br/></p><p>🔔 Subscribe on YouTube</p><p>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC9KOBazbPvWdcopb_dd1M5g</p><p><br/></p><p>🎧 Listen on Audio</p><p>https://www.buzzsprout.com/2607662</p><p><br/></p><p>📚 Resources</p><p><a href='https://amzn.to/3PISqfX'>https://amzn.to/3PISqfX</a></p><p>FOLLOW</p><p><br/></p><p>00:00 No Power Rangers in Church</p><p>01:29 Welcome to Grown Up Church Kids</p><p>02:21 Movies Church Kids Couldn’t Watch</p><p>08:58 Meet DOE</p><p>10:28 DOE’s COGIC Roots</p><p>14:32 Growing Up in a Bilingual Church</p><p>20:16 Multicultural Worship &amp; Israel Houghton</p><p>25:57 Bible Games &amp; Sword Drills</p><p>31:44 DOE on R-Rated Movies</p><p>32:45 “Demon in My Pocket”</p><p>35:37 Parenting, Pokémon &amp; Conviction</p><p>39:31 Aladdin, Genies &amp; Spiritual Sensitivity</p><p>42:47 Christian Content We Can Trust</p><p>45:53 Scary Movies &amp; Fear</p><p>50:03 Dating as a Church Kid</p><p>53:50 Purity Culture and Marriage</p><p>59:09 The Testimony of Protection</p><p>1:04:47 Church Kids at House Parties</p><p>1:08:52 DOE’s Musical Influences</p><p>1:13:02 Songs Born in Prayer</p><p>1:14:19 Meet Baby Shiloh</p><p>1:15:44 Parenting Without Projecting</p><p>1:18:48 Final Thoughts &amp; Songs</p><p><br/></p><p>More from Dwan Hill</p><p>YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@DwanHill</p><p>Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dwanhill</p><p>Website: https://www.dwanhill.com/</p><p><br/></p><p>More from Shama Mrema</p><p>YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/AfterSchoolProgram</p><p>Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/shama4realz</p><p>Website: https://www.shamamrema.com/</p><p><br/></p><p>More from Grown-Up Church Kids</p><p>YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC9KOBazbPvWdcopb_dd1M5g</p><p>Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/grownup.churchkids/</p><p><br/></p><p>Website: https://www.grownupchurchkids.com/</p><p><br/></p><p>More from The Choir Room</p><p>YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@thechoirroom</p><p>Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/the.choirroom/?hl=en</p><p>Website: https://www.choirisback.com/</p><p><br/></p><p>CREDITS:</p><p>Director &amp; Editor: Kyle Whittaker</p><p>Producer: Hannah Gifford (Open Hand Management)</p><p>Production Assistants: Sarah Bush, Abby Loomis</p><p>Audio: Garrett Miller, Aaron Rochotte</p><p>Video: Seth Scruggs</p><p>Video, Photo &amp; Social: Jordan Rubino</p><p>Management: Annie Cunningham</p><p><br/></p><p>#grownupchurchkids #dwanhill #shamamrema #doe #thechoirroom #faithjourney #churchkid</p><p><br/></p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <itunes:title>Catholic vs Protestant: What We Got Wrong About Each Other</itunes:title>
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    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[In this episode of Grown Up Church Kids, Matt Maher joins Dwan Hill and Shama Mrema for an honest, eye-opening conversation about Catholic vs Protestant beliefs, church unity, saints, the Eucharist, and what it really means to follow Jesus. If you’ve ever wondered “Are Catholics Christians?”, struggled with church hurt, or felt disconnected from faith after growing up in church, this conversation bridges the gap with clarity, humility, and depth. From misconceptions about praying to saints to...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of Grown Up Church Kids, Matt Maher joins Dwan Hill and Shama Mrema for an honest, eye-opening conversation about Catholic vs Protestant beliefs, church unity, saints, the Eucharist, and what it really means to follow Jesus. If you’ve ever wondered “Are Catholics Christians?”, struggled with church hurt, or felt disconnected from faith after growing up in church, this conversation bridges the gap with clarity, humility, and depth. From misconceptions about praying to saints to the meaning of communion and the beauty of liturgy, this episode explores how different traditions can still point to the same gospel. It’s not about winning arguments. It’s about rediscovering faith, unity in the Church, and a deeper relationship with God beyond performance, denomination, or tradition. If you’re a grown-up church kid trying to make sense of faith today, this one’s for you.</p><p><br/></p><p>ABOUT THE SHOW:</p><p>Grown Up Church Kids is more than a show, it’s a full-circle moment where Sunday Morning Meets Real Life. Bringing together community, conversations, shared stories, and songs that shaped a generation, this is a space for Grown-Up Church Kids to reconnect with their roots, redefine their journeys, and celebrate the faith together.</p><p><br/></p><p>There are more of us than you think.</p><p><br/></p><p>🎟️ Live Show — Nashville (May 14)</p><p>https://www.analognashville.com/events/grown-up-church-kids-live/</p><p><br/></p><p>🔔 Subscribe on YouTube</p><p>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC9KOBazbPvWdcopb_dd1M5g</p><p><br/></p><p>🎧 Listen on Audio</p><p>https://www.buzzsprout.com/2607662</p><p><br/></p><p>📚 Resources</p><p><a href='https://amzn.to/3PISqfX'>https://amzn.to/3PISqfX</a></p><p>FOLLOW</p><p><br/></p><p>More from Dwan Hill</p><p>YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@DwanHill</p><p>Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dwanhill</p><p>Website: https://www.dwanhill.com/</p><p><br/></p><p>More from Shama Mrema</p><p>YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/AfterSchoolProgram</p><p>Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/shama4realz</p><p>Website: https://www.shamamrema.com/</p><p><br/></p><p>More from Grown-Up Church Kids</p><p>YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC9KOBazbPvWdcopb_dd1M5g</p><p>Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/grownup.churchkids/</p><p><br/></p><p>Website: https://www.grownupchurchkids.com/</p><p><br/></p><p>More from The Choir Room</p><p>YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@thechoirroom</p><p>Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/the.choirroom/?hl=en</p><p>Website: https://www.choirisback.com/</p><p><br/></p><p>CREDITS:</p><p>Director &amp; Editor: Kyle Whittaker</p><p>Producer: Hannah Gifford (Open Hand Management)</p><p>Production Assistants: Sarah Bush, Abby Loomis</p><p>Audio: Garrett Miller, Aaron Rochotte</p><p>Video: Seth Scruggs</p><p>Video, Photo &amp; Social: Jordan Rubino</p><p>Management: Annie Cunningham</p><p><br/></p><p>#grownupchurchkids #dwanhill #shamamrema #mattmaher #thechoirroom #faithjourney #churchkid</p><p><br/></p><p>00:00 One Church or Many?</p><p>01:06 Welcome to GCK</p><p>02:11 Catholic Curiosity Begins</p><p>05:48 Meet Matt Maher</p><p>06:14 Are Catholics Christians?</p><p>10:06 Do Catholics Worship Saints?</p><p>15:07 Is Heaven Closer Than We Think?</p><p>19:47 The Eucharist Explained</p><p>25:07 Why Catholics Believe This</p><p>30:31 “Catholic Then Saved?”</p><p>37:29 Why Church Kids Walk Away</p><p>41:35 Social Media &amp; Faith</p><p>47:13 Is There Only One Church?</p><p>49:20 Why Young People Want Liturgy</p><p>57:04 The Problem with “New” Theology</p><p>01:01:11 How to Grow in Faith Daily</p><p>01:08:46 Unity Over Division</p><p>01:12:37 Final Thoughts &amp; Music</p><p><br/><br/></p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of Grown Up Church Kids, Matt Maher joins Dwan Hill and Shama Mrema for an honest, eye-opening conversation about Catholic vs Protestant beliefs, church unity, saints, the Eucharist, and what it really means to follow Jesus. If you’ve ever wondered “Are Catholics Christians?”, struggled with church hurt, or felt disconnected from faith after growing up in church, this conversation bridges the gap with clarity, humility, and depth. From misconceptions about praying to saints to the meaning of communion and the beauty of liturgy, this episode explores how different traditions can still point to the same gospel. It’s not about winning arguments. It’s about rediscovering faith, unity in the Church, and a deeper relationship with God beyond performance, denomination, or tradition. If you’re a grown-up church kid trying to make sense of faith today, this one’s for you.</p><p><br/></p><p>ABOUT THE SHOW:</p><p>Grown Up Church Kids is more than a show, it’s a full-circle moment where Sunday Morning Meets Real Life. Bringing together community, conversations, shared stories, and songs that shaped a generation, this is a space for Grown-Up Church Kids to reconnect with their roots, redefine their journeys, and celebrate the faith together.</p><p><br/></p><p>There are more of us than you think.</p><p><br/></p><p>🎟️ Live Show — Nashville (May 14)</p><p>https://www.analognashville.com/events/grown-up-church-kids-live/</p><p><br/></p><p>🔔 Subscribe on YouTube</p><p>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC9KOBazbPvWdcopb_dd1M5g</p><p><br/></p><p>🎧 Listen on Audio</p><p>https://www.buzzsprout.com/2607662</p><p><br/></p><p>📚 Resources</p><p><a href='https://amzn.to/3PISqfX'>https://amzn.to/3PISqfX</a></p><p>FOLLOW</p><p><br/></p><p>More from Dwan Hill</p><p>YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@DwanHill</p><p>Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dwanhill</p><p>Website: https://www.dwanhill.com/</p><p><br/></p><p>More from Shama Mrema</p><p>YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/AfterSchoolProgram</p><p>Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/shama4realz</p><p>Website: https://www.shamamrema.com/</p><p><br/></p><p>More from Grown-Up Church Kids</p><p>YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC9KOBazbPvWdcopb_dd1M5g</p><p>Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/grownup.churchkids/</p><p><br/></p><p>Website: https://www.grownupchurchkids.com/</p><p><br/></p><p>More from The Choir Room</p><p>YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@thechoirroom</p><p>Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/the.choirroom/?hl=en</p><p>Website: https://www.choirisback.com/</p><p><br/></p><p>CREDITS:</p><p>Director &amp; Editor: Kyle Whittaker</p><p>Producer: Hannah Gifford (Open Hand Management)</p><p>Production Assistants: Sarah Bush, Abby Loomis</p><p>Audio: Garrett Miller, Aaron Rochotte</p><p>Video: Seth Scruggs</p><p>Video, Photo &amp; Social: Jordan Rubino</p><p>Management: Annie Cunningham</p><p><br/></p><p>#grownupchurchkids #dwanhill #shamamrema #mattmaher #thechoirroom #faithjourney #churchkid</p><p><br/></p><p>00:00 One Church or Many?</p><p>01:06 Welcome to GCK</p><p>02:11 Catholic Curiosity Begins</p><p>05:48 Meet Matt Maher</p><p>06:14 Are Catholics Christians?</p><p>10:06 Do Catholics Worship Saints?</p><p>15:07 Is Heaven Closer Than We Think?</p><p>19:47 The Eucharist Explained</p><p>25:07 Why Catholics Believe This</p><p>30:31 “Catholic Then Saved?”</p><p>37:29 Why Church Kids Walk Away</p><p>41:35 Social Media &amp; Faith</p><p>47:13 Is There Only One Church?</p><p>49:20 Why Young People Want Liturgy</p><p>57:04 The Problem with “New” Theology</p><p>01:01:11 How to Grow in Faith Daily</p><p>01:08:46 Unity Over Division</p><p>01:12:37 Final Thoughts &amp; Music</p><p><br/><br/></p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <itunes:title>God Used a Muslim to Save Us And It Changed My Faith Forever</itunes:title>
    <title>God Used a Muslim to Save Us And It Changed My Faith Forever</title>
    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[What happens when you grow up in church but realize you don’t actually know Jesus? This episode of Grown Up Church Kids explores church hurt, faith journey, and the difference between religion and a real relationship with God. From surviving religious persecution in Nigeria to navigating American church culture, this conversation dives into spiritual burnout, authentic Christianity, and what it really means to follow Jesus beyond routines and inherited beliefs. We talk about growing up in chu...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p>What happens when you grow up in church but realize you don’t actually know Jesus? This episode of <em>Grown Up Church Kids</em> explores church hurt, faith journey, and the difference between religion and a real relationship with God. From surviving religious persecution in Nigeria to navigating American church culture, this conversation dives into spiritual burnout, authentic Christianity, and what it really means to follow Jesus beyond routines and inherited beliefs.</p><p>We talk about growing up in church, losing faith in ministry, and rediscovering God through personal encounter—not performance. If you’ve experienced church trauma, questioned your faith, or felt disconnected from Christianity, this episode will resonate. You’ll hear powerful Christian testimony, honest conversations about doubt, and insight into how different cultures experience faith, worship, and Jesus. This is about moving from knowing about God to actually knowing Him—and why that changes everything.</p><p>ABOUT THE SHOW:</p><p>Grown Up Church Kids is more than a show, it’s a full-circle moment where Sunday Morning Meets Real Life. Bringing together community, conversations, shared stories, and songs that shaped a generation, this is a space for Grown-Up Church Kids to reconnect with their roots, redefine their journeys, and celebrate the faith together.</p><p>There are more of us than you think.</p><p>🎟️ Live Show — Nashville (May 14)</p><p>https://www.analognashville.com/events/grown-up-church-kids-live/</p><p>🔔 Subscribe on YouTube</p><p>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC9KOBazbPvWdcopb_dd1M5g</p><p>🎧 Listen on Audio</p><p>https://www.buzzsprout.com/2607662</p><p><br/></p><p>📚 Resources</p><p><a href='https://amzn.to/3PISqfX'>https://amzn.to/3PISqfX</a></p><p><br/></p><p>00:00 “Come As You Are”… But Never Change?</p><p>02:07 Welcome to Church Kid Reality</p><p>04:00 Church Culture vs Real Faith</p><p>07:22 Why Worship Feels Different Now</p><p>10:02 Faith That Could Cost Your Life</p><p>13:21 The Power of Simple Kindness</p><p>16:00 “I Knew About God… Not God”</p><p>19:02 When Faith Becomes Personal</p><p>22:04 When Ministry Breaks Your Faith</p><p>25:02 When Church Doesn’t Hold Up</p><p>30:59 The Problem With American Christianity</p><p>33:10 What Other Cultures Get Right</p><p>36:04 Using God vs Actually Knowing Him</p><p>41:02 Comfort Is Killing Hunger for God</p><p>46:04 What Church Was Supposed To Be</p><p>49:16 Finishing Faith Well</p><p>54:42 Real Worship vs Performance</p><p>58:07 Why Authenticity Hits Harder</p><p>01:02:26 Why Imperfection Connects</p><p>01:05:07 Bible Bowl (But Make It Competitive)</p><p>01:12:35 Final Thoughts + What Faith Looks Like Now</p><p><br/></p><p>FOLLOW</p><p><br/></p><p>More from Dwan Hill</p><p>YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@DwanHill</p><p>Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dwanhill</p><p>Website: https://www.dwanhill.com/</p><p><br/></p><p>More from Shama Mrema</p><p>YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/AfterSchoolProgram</p><p>Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/shama4realz</p><p>Website: https://www.shamamrema.com/</p><p><br/></p><p>More from Grown-Up Church Kids</p><p>YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC9KOBazbPvWdcopb_dd1M5g</p><p>Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/grownup.churchkids/</p><p><br/></p><p>Website: https://www.grownupchurchkids.com/</p><p><br/></p><p>More from The Choir Room</p><p>YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@thechoirroom</p><p>Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/the.choirroom/?hl=en</p><p>Website: https://www.choirisback.com/</p><p><br/></p><p>CREDITS:</p><p>Director &amp; Editor: Kyle Whittaker</p><p>Producer: Hannah Gifford (Open Hand Management)</p><p>Production Assistants: Sarah Bush, Abby Loomis</p><p>Audio: Garrett Miller, Aaron Rochotte</p><p>Video: Seth Scruggs</p><p>Video, Photo &amp; Social: Jordan Rubino</p><p>Management: Annie Cunningham</p><p><br/></p><p>#grownupchurchkids #dwanhill #shamamrema #calledout #thechoirroom #faithjourney #churchkid</p><p><br/></p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What happens when you grow up in church but realize you don’t actually know Jesus? This episode of <em>Grown Up Church Kids</em> explores church hurt, faith journey, and the difference between religion and a real relationship with God. From surviving religious persecution in Nigeria to navigating American church culture, this conversation dives into spiritual burnout, authentic Christianity, and what it really means to follow Jesus beyond routines and inherited beliefs.</p><p>We talk about growing up in church, losing faith in ministry, and rediscovering God through personal encounter—not performance. If you’ve experienced church trauma, questioned your faith, or felt disconnected from Christianity, this episode will resonate. You’ll hear powerful Christian testimony, honest conversations about doubt, and insight into how different cultures experience faith, worship, and Jesus. This is about moving from knowing about God to actually knowing Him—and why that changes everything.</p><p>ABOUT THE SHOW:</p><p>Grown Up Church Kids is more than a show, it’s a full-circle moment where Sunday Morning Meets Real Life. Bringing together community, conversations, shared stories, and songs that shaped a generation, this is a space for Grown-Up Church Kids to reconnect with their roots, redefine their journeys, and celebrate the faith together.</p><p>There are more of us than you think.</p><p>🎟️ Live Show — Nashville (May 14)</p><p>https://www.analognashville.com/events/grown-up-church-kids-live/</p><p>🔔 Subscribe on YouTube</p><p>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC9KOBazbPvWdcopb_dd1M5g</p><p>🎧 Listen on Audio</p><p>https://www.buzzsprout.com/2607662</p><p><br/></p><p>📚 Resources</p><p><a href='https://amzn.to/3PISqfX'>https://amzn.to/3PISqfX</a></p><p><br/></p><p>00:00 “Come As You Are”… But Never Change?</p><p>02:07 Welcome to Church Kid Reality</p><p>04:00 Church Culture vs Real Faith</p><p>07:22 Why Worship Feels Different Now</p><p>10:02 Faith That Could Cost Your Life</p><p>13:21 The Power of Simple Kindness</p><p>16:00 “I Knew About God… Not God”</p><p>19:02 When Faith Becomes Personal</p><p>22:04 When Ministry Breaks Your Faith</p><p>25:02 When Church Doesn’t Hold Up</p><p>30:59 The Problem With American Christianity</p><p>33:10 What Other Cultures Get Right</p><p>36:04 Using God vs Actually Knowing Him</p><p>41:02 Comfort Is Killing Hunger for God</p><p>46:04 What Church Was Supposed To Be</p><p>49:16 Finishing Faith Well</p><p>54:42 Real Worship vs Performance</p><p>58:07 Why Authenticity Hits Harder</p><p>01:02:26 Why Imperfection Connects</p><p>01:05:07 Bible Bowl (But Make It Competitive)</p><p>01:12:35 Final Thoughts + What Faith Looks Like Now</p><p><br/></p><p>FOLLOW</p><p><br/></p><p>More from Dwan Hill</p><p>YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@DwanHill</p><p>Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dwanhill</p><p>Website: https://www.dwanhill.com/</p><p><br/></p><p>More from Shama Mrema</p><p>YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/AfterSchoolProgram</p><p>Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/shama4realz</p><p>Website: https://www.shamamrema.com/</p><p><br/></p><p>More from Grown-Up Church Kids</p><p>YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC9KOBazbPvWdcopb_dd1M5g</p><p>Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/grownup.churchkids/</p><p><br/></p><p>Website: https://www.grownupchurchkids.com/</p><p><br/></p><p>More from The Choir Room</p><p>YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@thechoirroom</p><p>Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/the.choirroom/?hl=en</p><p>Website: https://www.choirisback.com/</p><p><br/></p><p>CREDITS:</p><p>Director &amp; Editor: Kyle Whittaker</p><p>Producer: Hannah Gifford (Open Hand Management)</p><p>Production Assistants: Sarah Bush, Abby Loomis</p><p>Audio: Garrett Miller, Aaron Rochotte</p><p>Video: Seth Scruggs</p><p>Video, Photo &amp; Social: Jordan Rubino</p><p>Management: Annie Cunningham</p><p><br/></p><p>#grownupchurchkids #dwanhill #shamamrema #calledout #thechoirroom #faithjourney #churchkid</p><p><br/></p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[“Everything happens for a reason.” It sounds comforting, but for many people it’s one of the reasons faith starts to fall apart. In this conversation, Ian Simkins calls out the church phrases and shallow theology that don’t hold up in real suffering, and why so many people who grew up in church feel disconnected, disappointed, and unsure what to believe. We talk about church hurt, leadership pressure, and what it looks like to rebuild an honest, grounded faith on the other side. If you’ve eve...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p>“Everything happens for a reason.” It sounds comforting, but for many people it’s one of the reasons faith starts to fall apart. In this conversation, Ian Simkins calls out the church phrases and shallow theology that don’t hold up in real suffering, and why so many people who grew up in church feel disconnected, disappointed, and unsure what to believe. We talk about church hurt, leadership pressure, and what it looks like to rebuild an honest, grounded faith on the other side. If you’ve ever felt like church language didn’t match your real life, this conversation will put words to it.</p><p><br/></p><p>ABOUT THE SHOW:</p><p>Grown Up Church Kids is more than a show, it’s a full-circle moment where Sunday Morning Meets Real Life. Bringing together community, conversations, shared stories, and songs that shaped a generation, this is a space for Grown-Up Church Kids to reconnect with their roots, redefine their journeys, and celebrate the faith together.</p><p><br/></p><p>There are more of us than you think.</p><p><br/></p><p>🎟️ Live Show — Nashville (May 14)</p><p>https://www.analognashville.com/events/grown-up-church-kids-live/</p><p><br/></p><p>🔔 Subscribe on YouTube</p><p>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC9KOBazbPvWdcopb_dd1M5g</p><p><br/></p><p>🎧 Listen on Audio</p><p>https://www.buzzsprout.com/2607662</p><p><br/></p><p>📚 Resources</p><p>https://amzn.to/3PISqfX</p><p><br/></p><p>FOLLOW</p><p><br/></p><p>More from Dwan Hill</p><p>YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@DwanHill</p><p>Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dwanhill</p><p>Website: https://www.dwanhill.com/</p><p><br/></p><p>More from Shama Mrema</p><p>YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/AfterSchoolProgram</p><p>Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/shama4realz</p><p>Website: https://www.shamamrema.com/</p><p><br/></p><p>More from Grown-Up Church Kids</p><p>YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC9KOBazbPvWdcopb_dd1M5g</p><p>Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/grownup.churchkids/</p><p><br/></p><p>Website: https://www.grownupchurchkids.com/</p><p><br/></p><p>More from The Choir Room</p><p>YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@thechoirroom</p><p>Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/the.choirroom/?hl=en</p><p>Website: https://www.choirisback.com/</p><p><br/></p><p>CREDITS:</p><p>Director &amp; Editor: Kyle Whittaker</p><p>Producer: Hannah Gifford (Open Hand Management)</p><p>Production Assistants: Sarah Bush, Abby Loomis</p><p>Audio: Garrett Miller, Aaron Rochotte</p><p>Video: Seth Scruggs</p><p>Video, Photo &amp; Social: Jordan Rubino</p><p>Management: Annie Cunningham</p><p><br/></p><p>#grownupchurchkids #dwanhill #shamamrema #frannicash #thechoirroom #faithjourney #churchkid</p><p><br/></p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“Everything happens for a reason.” It sounds comforting, but for many people it’s one of the reasons faith starts to fall apart. In this conversation, Ian Simkins calls out the church phrases and shallow theology that don’t hold up in real suffering, and why so many people who grew up in church feel disconnected, disappointed, and unsure what to believe. We talk about church hurt, leadership pressure, and what it looks like to rebuild an honest, grounded faith on the other side. If you’ve ever felt like church language didn’t match your real life, this conversation will put words to it.</p><p><br/></p><p>ABOUT THE SHOW:</p><p>Grown Up Church Kids is more than a show, it’s a full-circle moment where Sunday Morning Meets Real Life. Bringing together community, conversations, shared stories, and songs that shaped a generation, this is a space for Grown-Up Church Kids to reconnect with their roots, redefine their journeys, and celebrate the faith together.</p><p><br/></p><p>There are more of us than you think.</p><p><br/></p><p>🎟️ Live Show — Nashville (May 14)</p><p>https://www.analognashville.com/events/grown-up-church-kids-live/</p><p><br/></p><p>🔔 Subscribe on YouTube</p><p>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC9KOBazbPvWdcopb_dd1M5g</p><p><br/></p><p>🎧 Listen on Audio</p><p>https://www.buzzsprout.com/2607662</p><p><br/></p><p>📚 Resources</p><p>https://amzn.to/3PISqfX</p><p><br/></p><p>FOLLOW</p><p><br/></p><p>More from Dwan Hill</p><p>YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@DwanHill</p><p>Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dwanhill</p><p>Website: https://www.dwanhill.com/</p><p><br/></p><p>More from Shama Mrema</p><p>YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/AfterSchoolProgram</p><p>Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/shama4realz</p><p>Website: https://www.shamamrema.com/</p><p><br/></p><p>More from Grown-Up Church Kids</p><p>YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC9KOBazbPvWdcopb_dd1M5g</p><p>Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/grownup.churchkids/</p><p><br/></p><p>Website: https://www.grownupchurchkids.com/</p><p><br/></p><p>More from The Choir Room</p><p>YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@thechoirroom</p><p>Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/the.choirroom/?hl=en</p><p>Website: https://www.choirisback.com/</p><p><br/></p><p>CREDITS:</p><p>Director &amp; Editor: Kyle Whittaker</p><p>Producer: Hannah Gifford (Open Hand Management)</p><p>Production Assistants: Sarah Bush, Abby Loomis</p><p>Audio: Garrett Miller, Aaron Rochotte</p><p>Video: Seth Scruggs</p><p>Video, Photo &amp; Social: Jordan Rubino</p><p>Management: Annie Cunningham</p><p><br/></p><p>#grownupchurchkids #dwanhill #shamamrema #frannicash #thechoirroom #faithjourney #churchkid</p><p><br/></p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <itunes:title>Confessing Addictions, Interracial Marriage, and Growing Up COGIC w/ nobigdyl</itunes:title>
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    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[In Episode 2 of Grown-Up Church Kids, Dwan Hill and Shama Mrema sit down with hip hop artist nobigdyl to talk about confessing sexual addictions, interracial marriage, and growing up COGIC.   If you grew up in church, this episode will feel familiar and maybe a little too real.   ABOUT THE SHOW: Grown Up Church Kids is more than a show, it’s a full-circle moment where Sunday Morning Meets Real Life. Bringing together community, conversations, shared stories, and songs that shaped a generation...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p>In Episode 2 of Grown-Up Church Kids, Dwan Hill and Shama Mrema sit down with hip hop artist nobigdyl to talk about confessing sexual addictions, interracial marriage, and growing up COGIC.</p><p><br/></p><p>If you grew up in church, this episode will feel familiar and maybe a little too real.</p><p><br/></p><p>ABOUT THE SHOW:</p><p>Grown Up Church Kids is more than a show, it’s a full-circle moment where Sunday Morning Meets Real Life. Bringing together community, conversations, shared stories, and songs that shaped a generation, this is a space for Grown-Up Church Kids to reconnect with their roots, redefine their journeys, and celebrate the faith together.</p><p><br/></p><p>There are more of us than you think.</p><p><br/></p><p>🎟️ Live Show — Nashville (May 14)</p><p>https://www.analognashville.com/events/grown-up-church-kids-live/</p><p><br/></p><p>🔔 Subscribe on YouTube</p><p>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC9KOBazbPvWdcopb_dd1M5g</p><p><br/></p><p>🎧 Listen on Audio</p><p>https://www.buzzsprout.com/2607662</p><p><br/></p><p>📚 Resources</p><p>https://amzn.to/3PISqfX</p><p><br/></p><p>FOLLOW</p><p><br/></p><p>More from Dwan Hill</p><p>YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@DwanHill</p><p>Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dwanhill</p><p>Website: https://www.dwanhill.com/</p><p><br/></p><p>More from Shama Mrema</p><p>YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/AfterSchoolProgram</p><p>Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/shama4realz</p><p>Website: https://www.shamamrema.com/</p><p><br/></p><p>More from Grown-Up Church Kids</p><p>YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC9KOBazbPvWdcopb_dd1M5g</p><p>Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/grownup.churchkids/</p><p><br/></p><p>Website: https://www.grownupchurchkids.com/</p><p><br/></p><p>More from nobigdyl</p><p>YouTube: </p><p>Instagram: </p><p>Website: </p><p><br/></p><p>More from The Choir Room</p><p>YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@thechoirroom</p><p>Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/the.choirroom/?hl=en</p><p>Website: https://www.choirisback.com/</p><p><br/></p><p>CREDITS:</p><p>Director &amp; Editor: Kyle Whittaker</p><p>Producer: Hannah Gifford (Open Hand Management)</p><p>Production Assistants: Sarah Bush, Abby Loomis</p><p>Audio: Garrett Miller, Aaron Rochotte</p><p>Video: Seth Scruggs</p><p>Video, Photo &amp; Social: Jordan Rubino</p><p>Management: Annie Cunningham</p><p><br/></p><p>#grownupchurchkids #dwanhill #shamamrema #frannicash #thechoirroom #faithjourney #churchkid</p><p><br/><br/></p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In Episode 2 of Grown-Up Church Kids, Dwan Hill and Shama Mrema sit down with hip hop artist nobigdyl to talk about confessing sexual addictions, interracial marriage, and growing up COGIC.</p><p><br/></p><p>If you grew up in church, this episode will feel familiar and maybe a little too real.</p><p><br/></p><p>ABOUT THE SHOW:</p><p>Grown Up Church Kids is more than a show, it’s a full-circle moment where Sunday Morning Meets Real Life. Bringing together community, conversations, shared stories, and songs that shaped a generation, this is a space for Grown-Up Church Kids to reconnect with their roots, redefine their journeys, and celebrate the faith together.</p><p><br/></p><p>There are more of us than you think.</p><p><br/></p><p>🎟️ Live Show — Nashville (May 14)</p><p>https://www.analognashville.com/events/grown-up-church-kids-live/</p><p><br/></p><p>🔔 Subscribe on YouTube</p><p>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC9KOBazbPvWdcopb_dd1M5g</p><p><br/></p><p>🎧 Listen on Audio</p><p>https://www.buzzsprout.com/2607662</p><p><br/></p><p>📚 Resources</p><p>https://amzn.to/3PISqfX</p><p><br/></p><p>FOLLOW</p><p><br/></p><p>More from Dwan Hill</p><p>YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@DwanHill</p><p>Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dwanhill</p><p>Website: https://www.dwanhill.com/</p><p><br/></p><p>More from Shama Mrema</p><p>YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/AfterSchoolProgram</p><p>Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/shama4realz</p><p>Website: https://www.shamamrema.com/</p><p><br/></p><p>More from Grown-Up Church Kids</p><p>YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC9KOBazbPvWdcopb_dd1M5g</p><p>Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/grownup.churchkids/</p><p><br/></p><p>Website: https://www.grownupchurchkids.com/</p><p><br/></p><p>More from nobigdyl</p><p>YouTube: </p><p>Instagram: </p><p>Website: </p><p><br/></p><p>More from The Choir Room</p><p>YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@thechoirroom</p><p>Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/the.choirroom/?hl=en</p><p>Website: https://www.choirisback.com/</p><p><br/></p><p>CREDITS:</p><p>Director &amp; Editor: Kyle Whittaker</p><p>Producer: Hannah Gifford (Open Hand Management)</p><p>Production Assistants: Sarah Bush, Abby Loomis</p><p>Audio: Garrett Miller, Aaron Rochotte</p><p>Video: Seth Scruggs</p><p>Video, Photo &amp; Social: Jordan Rubino</p><p>Management: Annie Cunningham</p><p><br/></p><p>#grownupchurchkids #dwanhill #shamamrema #frannicash #thechoirroom #faithjourney #churchkid</p><p><br/><br/></p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Dwan Hill and Shama Mrema talk with Franni Cash about how she grew up in a cult, why she still chooses to be a part of the church, and what she thinks about women in ministry. Grown Up Church Kids is more than a show, it’s a full-circle moment where Sunday Morning Meets Real Life. Bringing together community, conversations, shared stories, and songs that shaped a generation, this is a space for Grown-Up Church Kids to reconnect with their roots, redefine their journeys, and celebrate the fait...]]></itunes:summary>
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