Laura & Leonie's Systemic Stories: Practice & Possibilities Wed, 13 May 2026 14:07:15 +1000 https://www.buzzsprout.com/2605685 en-au © 2026 Laura & Leonie's Systemic Stories: Practice & Possibilities yes f6ce7128-42cd-5121-b1d7-5a8240a09703 drleoniewhite@gmail.com Leonie White & Laura Hawkins episodic false Our hope and vision is that this podcast will help us grow family therapy in Australia by sharing the love of systemic therapy and practice, highlighting how it can be used in so many different services, settings and roles and showcasing how it looks on the ground in real life.


Our podcast is called “Systemic Stories: Practice and Possibilities” and our goal is to have relaxed conversations with a range of professionals who operate from or incorporate a systemic lens in their practice.


We will be chatting to guests from a range of professional settings who draw on systemic thinking and systemic family therapy in their practice.  We will be sharing real-life stories about what systemic practice looks like, the challenges practitioners face, how practitioners find a little "in" even in tricky settings, key learnings on bringing systemic practice into their field, and tips for other practitioners to consider.


This podcast isn't about a "right" way to be systemic.  It's about privileging multiple perspectives through sharing a range of systemic stories.


Laura is recording on the lands of the Turrbal People.

Leonie is recording on the lands of the Yugambeh People.


Acknowledgement of Country

We are honoured to be on the ancestral lands of the Traditional Owners of the areas we are recording from.  We acknowledge the First Australians as the Traditional Custodians of this continent, whose cultures are among the oldest living cultures in human history.   We pay our respects to their Elders past, present and emerging, for they hold the memories, the traditions, the culture and hopes of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Peoples across the nation.


Please note:  This podcast is educational in nature and does not constitute therapy advice or professional supervision.  Please seek help from an independent professional tailored to your individual needs if you require support.


]]> Buzzsprout (https://www.buzzsprout.com) Leonie White & Laura Hawkins drleoniewhite@gmail.com https://storage.buzzsprout.com/j1tb49i71cp0w6vmyj3s6yhwxsee?.jpg Laura & Leonie's Systemic Stories: Practice & Possibilities Michael Derby from Anchor Point Therapy Michael Derby from Anchor Point Therapy In this 3rd installment of Systemic Stories, Leonie and Laura interview Michael Derby from Anchor Point Therapy in Geelong, Victoria.  We learn about: 

  • Michael's first introduction to systemic practice
  • Hearing stories of Michael's experience working with trauma, harm and shame as a family therapist
  • Practical tips, frameworks and ideas on working with harm and shame with an individual, a family and the wider system
  • The intentional stance of the therapist, including the importance of understanding our own family of origin influences
  • Helpful ideas on using the Exploring Shame therapeutic card set
  • Practical tips for other family therapists and clinicians working with trauma, harm and shame

This podcast isn't about a "right" way to be systemic.  It's about privileging multiple perspectives through sharing a range of systemic stories.

Laura is recording on the lands of the Turrbal People.  Leonie is recording on the lands of the Yugambeh People.

Acknowledgement of Country

We are honoured to be on the ancestral lands of the Traditional Owners of the areas we are recording from.  We acknowledge the First Australians as the Traditional Custodians of this continent, whose cultures are among the oldest living cultures in human history.   We pay our respects to their Elders past, present and emerging, for they hold the memories, the traditions, the culture and hopes of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Peoples across the nation.

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This podcast isn't about a "right" way to be systemic.  It's about privileging multiple perspectives through sharing a range of systemic stories.

Laura is recording on the lands of the Turrbal People.  Leonie is recording on the lands of the Yugambeh People.

Acknowledgement of Country

We are honoured to be on the ancestral lands of the Traditional Owners of the areas we are recording from.  We acknowledge the First Australians as the Traditional Custodians of this continent, whose cultures are among the oldest living cultures in human history.   We pay our respects to their Elders past, present and emerging, for they hold the memories, the traditions, the culture and hopes of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Peoples across the nation.

]]> In this 3rd installment of Systemic Stories, Leonie and Laura interview Michael Derby from Anchor Point Therapy in Geelong, Victoria.  We learn about: 

  • Michael's first introduction to systemic practice
  • Hearing stories of Michael's experience working with trauma, harm and shame as a family therapist
  • Practical tips, frameworks and ideas on working with harm and shame with an individual, a family and the wider system
  • The intentional stance of the therapist, including the importance of understanding our own family of origin influences
  • Helpful ideas on using the Exploring Shame therapeutic card set
  • Practical tips for other family therapists and clinicians working with trauma, harm and shame

This podcast isn't about a "right" way to be systemic.  It's about privileging multiple perspectives through sharing a range of systemic stories.

Laura is recording on the lands of the Turrbal People.  Leonie is recording on the lands of the Yugambeh People.

Acknowledgement of Country

We are honoured to be on the ancestral lands of the Traditional Owners of the areas we are recording from.  We acknowledge the First Australians as the Traditional Custodians of this continent, whose cultures are among the oldest living cultures in human history.   We pay our respects to their Elders past, present and emerging, for they hold the memories, the traditions, the culture and hopes of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Peoples across the nation.

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This podcast isn't about a "right" way to be systemic.  It's about privileging multiple perspectives through sharing a range of systemic stories.

Laura is recording on the lands of the Turrbal People.  Leonie is recording on the lands of the Yugambeh People.

Acknowledgement of Country

We are honoured to be on the ancestral lands of the Traditional Owners of the areas we are recording from.  We acknowledge the First Australians as the Traditional Custodians of this continent, whose cultures are among the oldest living cultures in human history.   We pay our respects to their Elders past, present and emerging, for they hold the memories, the traditions, the culture and hopes of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Peoples across the nation.

]]> Leonie White & Laura Hawkins Buzzsprout-19168848 Wed, 13 May 2026 14:00:00 +1000 2587 full false Dr Kerri Webb & Jordana Rigby from ARBRE Developmental Pediatrics and Family Therapies Dr Kerri Webb & Jordana Rigby from ARBRE Developmental Pediatrics and Family Therapies In this second episode of Systemic Stories, Leonie and Laura interview Dr. Kerri-Lyn Webb and Jordana Rigby from Arbre Developmental Paediatrics and Family Therapies.  We learn about: 

  • Dr. Kerri and Jordana's journey into systemic practice
  • Working with a systemic framework from the therapy room to business processes
  • Systemic family therapy and developmental diagnoses - how we can hold both together in practice
  • The challenges in building a developmental service using an integrated and systemic framework
  • What has been helpful on the journey of systemic practice in this setting
  • Top tips for other family therapists and clinicians working in developmental paediatrics







This podcast isn't about a "right" way to be systemic.  It's about privileging multiple perspectives through sharing a range of systemic stories.

Laura is recording on the lands of the Turrbal People.  Leonie is recording on the lands of the Yugambeh People.

Acknowledgement of Country

We are honoured to be on the ancestral lands of the Traditional Owners of the areas we are recording from.  We acknowledge the First Australians as the Traditional Custodians of this continent, whose cultures are among the oldest living cultures in human history.   We pay our respects to their Elders past, present and emerging, for they hold the memories, the traditions, the culture and hopes of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Peoples across the nation.

]]> In this second episode of Systemic Stories, Leonie and Laura interview Dr. Kerri-Lyn Webb and Jordana Rigby from Arbre Developmental Paediatrics and Family Therapies.  We learn about: 

  • Dr. Kerri and Jordana's journey into systemic practice
  • Working with a systemic framework from the therapy room to business processes
  • Systemic family therapy and developmental diagnoses - how we can hold both together in practice
  • The challenges in building a developmental service using an integrated and systemic framework
  • What has been helpful on the journey of systemic practice in this setting
  • Top tips for other family therapists and clinicians working in developmental paediatrics







This podcast isn't about a "right" way to be systemic.  It's about privileging multiple perspectives through sharing a range of systemic stories.

Laura is recording on the lands of the Turrbal People.  Leonie is recording on the lands of the Yugambeh People.

Acknowledgement of Country

We are honoured to be on the ancestral lands of the Traditional Owners of the areas we are recording from.  We acknowledge the First Australians as the Traditional Custodians of this continent, whose cultures are among the oldest living cultures in human history.   We pay our respects to their Elders past, present and emerging, for they hold the memories, the traditions, the culture and hopes of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Peoples across the nation.

]]> Leonie White & Laura Hawkins Buzzsprout-18997439 Sat, 11 Apr 2026 15:00:00 +1000 2704 1 2 full false What is "Systemic Stories"? What is "Systemic Stories"? In this first episode of Systemic Stories, you will meet Laura and Leonie and find out:

  • Where we are from
  • How we got into systemic practice
  • How systemic practice fits with our "disciplines of origin" (Occupational Therapy and Psychology)
  • Why we created the podcast
  • What our hopes are for the podcast 
  • What to expect in future episodes

This podcast isn't about a "right" way to be systemic.  It's about privileging multiple perspectives through sharing a range of systemic stories.

Laura is recording on the lands of the Turrbal People.  Leonie is recording on the lands of the Yugambeh People.

Acknowledgement of Country

We are honoured to be on the ancestral lands of the Traditional Owners of the areas we are recording from.  We acknowledge the First Australians as the Traditional Custodians of this continent, whose cultures are among the oldest living cultures in human history.   We pay our respects to their Elders past, present and emerging, for they hold the memories, the traditions, the culture and hopes of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Peoples across the nation.

]]> In this first episode of Systemic Stories, you will meet Laura and Leonie and find out:

  • Where we are from
  • How we got into systemic practice
  • How systemic practice fits with our "disciplines of origin" (Occupational Therapy and Psychology)
  • Why we created the podcast
  • What our hopes are for the podcast 
  • What to expect in future episodes

This podcast isn't about a "right" way to be systemic.  It's about privileging multiple perspectives through sharing a range of systemic stories.

Laura is recording on the lands of the Turrbal People.  Leonie is recording on the lands of the Yugambeh People.

Acknowledgement of Country

We are honoured to be on the ancestral lands of the Traditional Owners of the areas we are recording from.  We acknowledge the First Australians as the Traditional Custodians of this continent, whose cultures are among the oldest living cultures in human history.   We pay our respects to their Elders past, present and emerging, for they hold the memories, the traditions, the culture and hopes of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Peoples across the nation.

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