As I continued my Internal Family Systems work, I came to understand a protective part of myself I call Cry Baby. That experience helped me see how the label victim had quietly influenced the way I saw myself, the way I moved through the world, and the kinds of situations I found myself in.

In this episode, I talk about the burden of negative identity labels, the role of trauma and secrecy in shaping emotional patterns, and the freedom that comes when I begin choosing new words on purpose.

I am no longer content to stay in survival mode. I am no longer aiming only for healing. I am choosing to thrive.

I share the new labels I am embracing now: beneficiary, rescuer, victor, thriver, and hero.

If you are navigating betrayal trauma recovery, healing from childhood wounds, or reclaiming your sense of self after painful experiences, I hope this episode offers insight, encouragement, and hope.

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When we survive trauma or betrayal, we often carry heavy "boulders" labeled I’ll never trust again, What if, and If only. We think these boulders protect us, but in reality, they just keep us pinned to the ground.

In this episode, Teri Murrison explores the first letter of her journal and coloring book, 26 Days of Fresh Bread: A for Accept.

Teri shares a deeply personal realization about what it actually means to "chuck a boulder." It isn’t just about letting go of the bad things that happened to us; sometimes, the heaviest weights we carry are the things we treasure—the "yearnings" for a past that no longer exists.

Inside this episode, you’ll discover:

• Why acceptance is the first necessary ingredient in the recipe for healing.
• The surprising "good" boulders that might be holding you back from your future.
• How the creative acts of coloring and journaling can calm the mind and release emotional expression.
• A sneak peek into the next step of the journey: B for Bridge.

If you are ready to transition from surviving to thriving, pull up a chair. There is fresh bread for your soul today.

Links & Resources:

• Download the Free 4-Letter Sample (H is for Healing): [ https://wheretofindbread.myflodesk.com/pkhn05c6fw ]
• Get the Full 60-Page E-Book & Journal: [ https://wheretofindbread.us/product/26-days-of-fresh-bread-coloring-book-journal/ ]
• Join the Newsletter: [ https://wheretofindbread.myflodesk.com/ ] for more "bread for hungry souls."
• Follow Teri on YouTube: [ youtube.com/wheretofindbread ]
• Teri's Website: [wheretofindbread.us]

Share your thoughts: What is one boulder you are carrying today? What would it feel like to set it down for just a moment?

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Welcome to Season 3, Episode 2 of "Where to Find Bread" with your host, Teri Murrison. Have you ever felt like someone else was pulling the strings in your life Today, I’m getting personal about a struggle I’ve had my entire life: control of the "internal boardroom".

 In this episode, I’m pulling back the curtain and sharing how I took back control using Internal Family Systems (IFS) therapy and EMDR. I'll introduce you to the protective "parts" of my personality, from Madam Chair to Chatty Cathy, and even the "exiled" parts I found hiding in the dark hold of my internal ship. Plus, I share a massive epiphany about the "Rusty Gate" that changed my entire outlook on rejection. 

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*What You Will Learn in This Episode:* 

- The Rusty Gate Epiphany: Why rejection is often just protection from a dysfunctional situation. 

- Internal Family Systems (IFS): A deep dive into Richard Schwartz's model of therapy and how it works. 

- Meeting My Parts: Understanding Madam Chair, Chatty Cathy, Miss Independence, and more. 

- The Trap Door: Bringing my exiled, shamed parts back into the light for true healing. 

- The 8 C's of Self: How to restore your core self to lead with calmness, clarity, and courage. *Resources & Links:* 

- My Thriving Resources Page: http://wheretofindbread.us/thriving-resources - Internal Family Systems (IFS) Institute: https://ifs-institute.com/ 

- "No Bad Parts" by Richard Schwartz: http://wheretofindbread.us/resources/ 

*Video Chapters:* 00:00 - Introduction: Who is Running Your Internal Boardroom? 01:15 - The Rusty Gate Epiphany: Rejection is Protection 02:37 - Internal Family Systems (IFS) Therapy Explained 04:14 - The 8 C's of Self & Restoring Balance 05:01 - Meeting My Internal Parts (Madam Chair, Chatty Cathy) 09:50 - The Trap Door: Healing My Exiled Parts 11:41 - Testing My New Self-Leadership 13:59 

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Welcome to Season 3. We are leaving "surviving" behind and moving into "thriving." In this kickoff episode, I’m getting vulnerable about a question I’ve asked myself for a long time: what was wrong with me? I’m sharing my recent return to therapy, not to talk about betrayal, but to do the deep work on my family of origin. I discuss my experience with bilateral stimulation (EMDR), how trauma gets stuck in the body, and why I’m finally ready to open the "rusty gate" to my past so I can fly unencumbered into my future.

Show Notes 

Stop Surviving. Start Thriving.

I actually had a different episode recorded for today, but I trashed it. After a life-changing hour in therapy this week, I knew I had to tell you the truth about where I am and where we are going.

In the premiere of Season 3, I’m shifting the focus entirely to personal health and wholeness. I’m sharing the "who, what, where, and why" of family of origin work and why I was finally brave enough to wade into those waters. If you’ve ever felt "fragmented" or stuck in old patterns of behavior, this episode is for you.

In this episode, I cover:

• The Decision to Start Again: Why I’m focusing on my own healing independent of my husband’s recovery.
• Family of Origin 101: What it is and how our early roles and traumas influence our relationships today.
• The Science of Healing: My experience with "paddles" (bilateral stimulation) and how it helped me process a recurring, painful dream about my childhood home.
• The Baby, The Prostitute, and Me: A reading of a portion of my personal story about the "rusty gate" and finding safety within myself.
• Big News: The reveal of my upcoming project, the 26 Days of Fresh Bread Coloring Book & Journal.

Resources Mentioned in this Episode:

• The Body Keeps the Score by Bessel van der Kolk (and the accompanying workbook).
• The Let Them Theory by Mel Robbins.
• The Official We Do Not Care Club Handbook (for a much-needed laugh).
• New Thriving Resources: Check them out at wheretofindbread.us/thriving-resources

Connect with me:

• Subscribe: Don’t miss a single step of this "Thriving" season.
• Website: Find the new resources and my blog at wheretofindbread.us
• Social Media: Follow for updates on the new coloring book and journal!
• #Family of origin work #healing childhood trauma #EMDR for betrayal trauma #thriving after betrayal #Teri Murrison #Where to Find Bread #somatic memory healing #The Body Keeps the Score #Mel Robbins # The Let Them Theory # Personal wholeness  #26 Days of Fresh Bread 

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It's time. Who's with me?! Tell me in the comments, please!

In this season finale, I’m making a clean break. For the past year, we’ve looked at the "who, what, where, and when" of surviving a partner’s sexual addiction and intimacy anorexia. But today, I’m stepping out of that winter and into a new season focused on personal resilience and joy.

I share a bit of my own history with early childhood fragmentation and how it shaped my world. We discuss why betrayal isn't your fault, but why your healing is your responsibility. This isn't about taking the blame for a partner’s choices: it’s about reclaiming the life you deserve.

In this episode, I cover:

• The Big Pivot: Why I’m leaving the topic of addiction in more capable hands to focus on personal wholeness.
• Fragmentation vs. Wholeness: A look at how early attachment issues mess with our brains and how we can rewire them.
• The Roadmap for Season 3: Using art, travel, music, and journalling to build a life you love.
• Key Takeaways: A recap of our journey from "Doing It" (Season 1) to "Surviving" (Season 2) and what it looks like to "Thrive" (Season 3).

Timestamps: 00:00 Introduction to Season Three: A New Beginning 02:48 Moving Forward: Healing and Wholeness 05:37 Key Takeaways from Seasons One and Two

Connect with me:

• Visit the Website: Find the Survival Guide for D-Day and other recovery resources
• Follow on Social Media: Facebook, Instagram

Join the Newsletter: Stay updated on new episodes and tools for your toolkit.  Don’t miss the transition to Season 3.  Subscribe

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I’ve been exactly where you are. In this episode, I’m sharing the list of things I wish someone had handed me the day my world was blown to bits. From why you need a notepad and a snow shovel to a "cold-blooded" informal financial audit that actually gives you peace of mind, these are the 12 best practices that helped me regain my footing. You won't be the same person a year from now, but I promise you, it can be better.

When the "Professor" walked down the stairs and told me he was a sex addict, I had no roadmap. I didn't know about "best practices" for trauma; I just knew I was falling. Today, I’m looping back to that moment to help those of you who are just starting this journey.

"D-Day" Best Practices:

1. Breathe: Don't react or throw things. Keep your powder dry; you'll need that energy for the long haul.
2. The Notepad: Write everything down immediately. Trauma makes your memory unreliable, and you'll want an accurate record of what was actually said.
3. Vigorous Exercise: I hate to exercise, but shoveling snow protected me from uncontrollable rage. Find a way to release your physical energy.
4. Find the Right Help: Do not just call any counselor. Go to APSATS.org to find someone trained in partner trauma. Don't be blamed for their choices by a well-meaning (or otherwise) therapist.
5. Define Your Safety: Physical, emotional, and spiritual. If they need to sleep in another room or move out, insist on it.
6. Find a Group: Check out PureDesire.org for a Betrayal and Beyond group. Isolation is the enemy of healing.
7. Partner Groups: Request they get into a group like Seven Pillars right away.
8. An Informal Financial Assessment: It sounds cold, but you need to know where you stand financially AND if you can make it on your own. Knowing the numbers gives you a position of strength from which to negotiate.
9. Accept the Change: You will never be the same person you were before this day. Grieve that loss, but don't rush the stages of grief.
10. Invest in Yourself: Pedicures, haircuts, or seek new interests. Do it for you, not to prove a point.
11. Journal: Write it down so that a year from now, you can see how far you've come.
12. New Reality over Restoration: Sometimes there is nothing in the "old" marriage worth restoring. It's okay to want a completely new reality instead.

Links Mentioned:

• APSATS.org (To find trauma-specialized coaches and therapists)
• PureDesire.org (For local and online support groups)
• Our Website: https://wheretofindbread.us

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Show Notes 

In this episode, I sit down with clarity coach Bridget Gregor to map out the journey from the initial shock of discovery to the solid ground of a reclaimed life. If you’ve ever felt like you were losing your mind after uncovering a partner's secret life, this conversation will give you the validation and the tools you need to breathe again.

What we cover in this episode:

• Coaching vs. Counseling: Why a "Clarity Coach" might be the forward-thinking partner you need to move from point A to point B.
• The 3 Stages of Healing: A look at the APSATS model—Safety and Stabilization, Remembering and Grieving, and finally, Reconnecting.
• Your Brain on Trauma: Understanding the "window of tolerance" and why you sometimes feel numb or hyper-anxious.
• The Necessity of Truth: Why "trickle truth" destroys trust and how a formal full disclosure process can help you reclaim your power through informed consent.
• Grounding Techniques: Practical ways to calm your nervous system when the triggers feel overwhelming.
• Redefining Success: Why healing is about your wholeness, regardless of whether your marriage is restored or ends in divorce.

Resources Mentioned:

• APSATS Model of Healing: https://apsats.org
• Full Disclosure Workbook by Dan Drake and Janice Caudel  
• Visit Where to Find Bread for more resources 

Connect with us:

• Subscribe to my newsletter for encouragement and tools.
• Watch the podcast and join the conversation in the comments to connect with others who truly understand.
• Follow on social media for insights on resilience and healing.

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➡️ In this episode of "Where to Find Bread," Bridget shares the raw truth about realizing she wasn't the problem—she was a traumatized partner in an unsafe marriage. We discuss the difficult transition from trying to "save" the relationship to finally saving herself, and the beautiful redemption she found on the other side. 

This is a must-listen for anyone healing from emotional abuse or religious trauma. 

Timestamps: 

00:00 - Introduction to Bridget Gregor's Story 

08:00 - The "Secret Sexual Basement": Uncovering the Double Life 

14:36 - Are You a "Codependent" or a Traumatized Partner? 

23:00 - Healing from Emotional and Domestic Abuse in Marriage 

32:14 - Finding Redemption and Life After Betrayal 

Learn more about Bridget Gregor at https://www.empowered-coaching.org/ 

#betrayaltraumarecovery #sexaddictionrecovery #bridgetgregor #emotionalabuse #religioustrauma #healingjourney #apsats #wheretofindbread 

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In this conversation, we cover:

• The Personal Iceberg: Why the behavior you see is only the tip of a much deeper problem involving integrity abuse.
• Betrayal as Domestic Abuse: A look at the psychological impact of gaslighting and manipulation on a partner’s nervous system.
• Specialized Recovery Tools: Why general marriage counseling often fails and how tools like EMDR and EFT help move trauma out of the body.
• The Roadmap to Truth: Understanding the difference between a "trickle-drip" of lies and a formal therapeutic disclosure.
• Faith and Safety: A candid talk about the tension between church tradition and the actual safety of the individual.

Resources for your journey:

• Find a specialist through APSATS: https://apsats.org
• Learn about the Minwalla Model: https://minwallamodel.com/
• Visit my Services and Resources page: https://wheretofindbread.us/services

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In this episode, I’m joined by a very special guest: my husband, Rich (often referred to as "The Professor"). For years, we lived through a "slow-motion train wreck," and while I’ve shared my perspective, it’s time to hear his. Rich opens up about the roots of his struggles, from a crushing childhood divorce to the "dragon" of sex addiction and intimacy anorexia that nearly destroyed our 44-year marriage. We dive deep into what betrayal looks like when it isn't a physical affair, the physical toll secrets take on the body, and the specific steps we took to choose recovery over divorce. This is a raw, unfiltered look at the work required to find hope in the ruins.

Show Notes:

Welcome back to Where to Find Bread. This is the episode many of you have been waiting for. Today, my husband Rich joins me to share the side of the story you haven't heard. We’re going beyond the surface to discuss the reality of recovery, the impact of secret addictions, and why "truth-telling" is the only way to save a soul.

In this episode, we discuss:

·         The Roots of the "Dragon": Rich shares how childhood trauma and a lack of supervision led to an early introduction to pornography and a pattern of emotional withdrawal.

·         The Military Years: A look at how past heartbreak in Italy fueled a cycle of "acting out" and a vow to never be vulnerable again.

·         Defining Intimacy Anorexia: We explain this often-misunderstood term and how withholding emotional, spiritual, and physical connection is a form of betrayal.

·         Discovery Day: The moment the secret surfaced on his Facebook feed and the terror of finally being seen.

·         The Physical Toll of Secrets: How Rich’s health declined as the addiction progressed, and the "shrunken" version of himself he became while riding the dragon.

·         The Path to Recovery: Why specific training in the field of sex addiction and intimacy anorexia is non-negotiable for healing and how neuroplasticity offers hope for a re-wired brain and recovery.

Key Takeaways:

1.  Betrayal is more than physical: Intimacy anorexia, the active withholding of oneself, can be just as damaging as an affair and is actually a form of domestic abuse.

2.  Addiction is progressive: It gets worse. It doesn't just stay in the mind; it eventually manifests in physical illness and emotional isolation too.

3.  Healing requires a specific tribe: General counseling often falls short. Recovery requires experts trained in the nuances of sex addiction and partner trauma.

4.  It’s never too late: Even after 40+ years of dysfunction, a commitment to change and radical honesty can build a new foundation.

Connect with Teri:

·         Visit the Website  Check out our Services and Resources page for recommended books and counselors.

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I was an elected official, a leader, and a "superstar" at work. At home, I was a ghost. This is the story of how I found bread in the wilderness of my own marriage. 

For nearly a year, I went quiet. Not because I ran out of things to say, but because I was living through a story I didn’t yet have words for. In this week’s episode of Where to Find Bread, I take you back to the beginning, to the attachment wounds of my adoption and the 'deals' I made with God at 23. 

I share the reality of 44 years spent in a marriage that felt like a slow-motion train wreck. 

For decades, I believed the lie that I was the problem. I was told I was 'too much' or 'not enough,' while I navigated the invisible wall of Intimacy Anorexia. I became a superstar in my career just to feel seen, while my life at home felt like a series of closed doors. Then came Discovery Day. 

Discovery Day is when the secrets come out, and the slow-motion train wreck finally hits the wall. It’s devastating, but it’s also the first day of the rest of your life. 

If you have ever felt isolated in your own home, or if you’ve been treated as if your worth is tied to your weight or your performance, this episode is for you. I am one hungry beggar telling another where I found bread. And I promise you: It is not your fault. 

If this episode resonates with you: 

• Subscribe so you don’t miss Episode 3 

• Share this episode with someone who feels alone but doesn’t yet have language for it 

• Visit the website (https://wheretofindbread.us) for recovery resources and counselor referrals 

• Subscribe to the newsletter for deeper reflections on healing, faith, and living well 

• Connect with the community, you don’t have to carry this alone 

 Chapter Markers 

03:40 – Why This Episode Matters

05:43 – Early Attachment Wounds and Adult Relationships 

07:14 – Spiritual Bargaining and the Search for Belonging 

11:53 – Marriage Without Emotional Safety 

14:06 – Loneliness Inside Commitment 

16:37 – Work, Achievement, and External Validation 

20:10 – Discovery Day Explained 

21:03 – Intimacy Anorexia and Emotional Absence 

22:48 – Making Meaning After Betrayal and Looking Ahead to Episode 3 

Episode 3 Teaser 

In the next episode, out next week, the conversation widens.

Teri is joined by her husband, whom she calls the Professor, to share what those same decades felt like from the other side. His story is not offered as defense or justification, but as context. Understanding both perspectives is essential for real recovery, compassion, and meaning-making. 

Episode 3 is a necessary continuation of the journey.

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For nearly a year, I went quiet. Not because I ran out of things to say, but because I was living through a story I didn’t yet have words for.

In this Friday’s episode of Where to Find Bread, I take you back to the beginning—to the attachment wounds of my adoption and the 'deals' I made with God at 23. I share the reality of 44 years spent in a marriage that felt like a slow-motion train wreck.

For decades, I believed the lie that I was the problem. I was told I was 'too much' or 'not enough,' while I navigated the invisible wall of Intimacy Anorexia. I became a superstar in my career just to feel seen, while my life at home felt like a series of closed doors.

Then came Discovery Day.

Discovery Day is when the secrets come out, and the slow-motion train wreck finally hits the wall. It’s devastating, but it’s also the first day of the rest of your life.

If you have ever felt isolated in your own home, or if you’ve been treated as if your worth is tied to your weight or your performance—this episode is for you. I am one hungry beggar telling another where I found bread. And I promise you: It is not your fault.

Don't miss my story on Friday. Subscribe.

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Hosted by Teri Murrison, this show explores personal growth, emotional resilience, and relationship healing through honest conversations and real-life experience. Season One invited listeners to create an “It’s Not Too Late” list—a bold reimagining of what’s still possible in midlife and beyond.

Season Two focuses on relationships and recovery, with a particular emphasis on betrayal trauma, sex addiction recovery, and intimacy anorexia. Through interviews with men and women living through betrayal, along with doctors, counselors, and other experts, Where to Find Bread offers insight, validation, and practical tools for healing after betrayal.

This podcast is for women—and the partners who love them—who want more than survival. It’s for those seeking women’s empowerment, clarity, and hope, and who believe that honest conversation can change lives.

If you’re navigating heartbreak, reinvention, or the quiet question of “Is this really it?”—you’re in the right place. 

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Season 2 of Where to Find Bread, a living well and personal growth podcast, begins with  powerful truth: It’s not too late for hope and healing—even when life falls apart. 

In this deeply personal episode, host Teri Murrison shares how she endured betrayal trauma and forgot (but then remembered) that all is not as it seems on the surface. 

She shares how she shifted from doing to being after discovering her husband’s sex addiction and intimacy anorexia and how she recovered from their dysfunctional 43-year marriage. 

She talks about overcoming and empowerment via a return to faith, peace, boundaries, and purpose. And eventually, experienced restoration of peace and their marriage relationship. 

She introduces her Let Me List - a framework for restoring emotional resilience even when control was gone, trust was broken, and joy distant. 

✉️ Subscribe to her newsletter at https//:wheretofindbread.us for deeper reflections and resources 

🌐 Visit the website at https//:wheretofindbread.us to check out resources, read the blog, and explore past episodes 

🎧 Follow and listen wherever you get your podcasts 

💬 Connect with others who want real tools for real life, and DM Teri if you have questions or need resources 

Because we need each other—and someday is not guaranteed. And because, Teri still believes, carpe diem is not reckless. It's wise. 

⏱️ Timestamps 

00:00 INTRO - Prepare for a very rough ride and an admonition 

02:24 Welcome to Season 2 

04:30 “It’s Not Too Late” and the urgency of time 

05:05 Stories of guests who seized the day 

07:45 When life suddenly gets smaller 

08:00 “All is not as it seems” – faith in turbulence 

10:12 Betrayal, gaslighting, and survival 

11:00 From the “It’s Not Too Late” list to the “Let Me List” 

11:32 Letting go of control 

11:57 Living by values and boundaries 

14:18 Choosing joy and restoring partnership 

15:02 Why Where to Find Bread exists 

16:03 Season 2 vision & invitation 

If you’ve ever wondered whether healing, hope, or change is still possible, this conversation is for you.

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She discusses the impact of budget cuts in Idaho, the lessons from the Exodus story, and her own journey of growth and forgiveness. 

Teri encourages listeners to shift their perspectives from complaints to appreciation, emphasizing the importance of forgiveness and understanding in navigating life's difficulties. 

Takeaways 

• Honesty meets hope in every situation. 

• Budget cuts lead to service cuts, impacting communities. 

• Historical lessons can guide our current challenges. 

• Complaining can distract from personal growth. 

• Forgiveness is essential for moving forward. 

• Life's challenges can be seen as periods of growth. 

• Appreciation can change our perspective on hardships. 

• Reflecting on the past can provide clarity for the future. 

• We often overlook the bigger picture in our struggles. 

• It's important to consider what we can learn from our experiences. 

Timestamps

00:00 Introduction to Fresh Bread and Aha Moments 

00:57 Reflections on Budget Cuts and State Services 

02:36 Lessons from the Exodus: Complaints and Forgiveness 

04:45 Personal Journey: Wandering in the Desert of Life 

06:02 Looking at the Bigger Picture: Gratitude and Forgiveness

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After a year-long hiatus, host Teri Murrison returns with a new season—and a new podcast name. In this sneak peek episode of Where to Find Bread, Teri shares why Teri’s Doing It! ended, what happened during a devastating marriage marked by marital betrayal and sexual addiction, and how recovery, therapy, and hard-earned tools helped her and her husband begin again.

Season 2 will explore marriage, pornography addiction, intimacy anorexia, betrayal trauma, attachment, neuroplasticity, grief, recovery, and healing—with counselors, doctors, people in recovery, and betrayed partners. This season isn’t about fixing everything. It’s about finding hope - bread - when you’re starving for it.

Season 2 launches in February.

Episode Keywords 

marriage recovery, betrayal trauma, sexual addiction, pornography addiction, intimacy anorexia, marriage podcast, healing after betrayal, marriage, Christian marriage, recovery podcast, trauma and healing, neuroplasticity, relationships

Episode Takeaways 

Why the podcast took a year-long pause

How betrayal and addiction impact marriage and identity

What recovery actually looks like—not just sounds like

Why these conversations matter inside and outside the church

What to expect in Season 2 of Where to Find Bread

Call to Action 

Subscribe to Where to Find Bread so you don’t miss the Season 2 launch.

Sign up for the newsletter on Substack: @wheretofindbread

🎧 The Sneak Peek episode is live now, and Season 2 officially launches in February.

This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit terisdoingit.substack.com

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Like most teenagers, I took absolutely no care of my skin when I should have. Sun damage led to wrinkles, keratoses, and more than several skin cancers beginning in my forties. Fortunately, so far none have been malignant. But I figure that’s a matter of time.

So, when I heard that laser resurfacing beauty treatments to reduce facial wrinkling can also help lessen the likelihood of skin cancer, it seemed prudent to give it a whirl. I went to the source of all Internet info, YouTube and watched a bunch of videos but came away less than persuaded. The videos online didn’t exactly convince me that there would be a change big enough to justify the cost in dollars or discomfort. Here’s what did convince me though. The thought that I could make my own “brutally honest” video so you could see what I learned. Here it is.

Tell me what you think. As for me? Watch and learn.

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UPDATE: Bob continues traveling the world and seeing things in his own inimitable way. He’s got a great trip to India coming up in 2026. For more info, go to: Lumaria Workshops.

I’m excited about my recent in depth conversation with renowned travel photographer Robert “Bob” Holmes, exploring his journey from a shy boy to an award-winning photographer. He’s not only uber-talented, but he’s funny and a most enjoyable travel companion (I visited San Francisco with Bob, his business partner Andrea Johnson, and a small group of really fun folks last August).

Bob is one who early on followed his passion for mountain climbing and photography and has few regrets. We discuss the importance of stepping outside one’s comfort zone, the art of photography, and his transition from primarily travel photography to encompass food and wine photography too. Bob shares insights on teaching photography, the current landscape of the industry, and offers valuable advice for aspiring photographers. Bob rocks! And oh, check out his photos in the podcast and on Instagram here: https://www.instagram.com/bobholmesphoto/.

Note: Apologies to the fabulous Bri Sneller for the caption misspelling of her first name (and who is, as Bob delicately pointed out, not cheese), and Bob Gilka, Bob’s guy at National Geographic.

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UPDATE: Sadly, shortly before this was broadcast, the incoming Presidential administration cut funding to the USAID program that funded Dan’s work in Africa and other third-world countries. After a few months, Dan figured out how to operate his programs without federal dollars. How long he’ll be able to keep doing that is anyone’s guess, but he’s putting his own resources, in greater measure than before, to his efforts.

In this episode, Dan Lavin says he’s doing exactly what he wants to do: taking his passion for humanitarian work to far-flung continents where he empowers communities and individuals, teaching them financial literacy through experiential learning. Dan works in places without electricity and few of the comforts we take for granted and he couldn’t be happier.

Early on, Dan put a legal education to work by learning how to ask the right questions. It’s a skill he used extensively as an attorney, an accountant, in the Peace Corp, and now, as a globe-hopping facilitator promoting the gospel of financial literacy in third world countries. Join us as he reveals how loneliness propelled him into recognizing and pursuing the value of human connection and the need to live without regrets and with compassion and kindness. As Dan says, “I hit something magical here.”

He wants you to find your own magic too.

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UPDATE: Tom continues writing and publishing books well into his 80s. Tyler Austin Harper, a writer in The Atlantic, recently wrote, “Thomas McGuane Is the Last of His Kind: What will we lose when we lose the “literary outdoorsman”? Many of us dread the day we hear that newsflash. I do, especially after our visit last January. He has a gift for making one feel like an old friend.

Jan 2, 2025 Thomas “Tom” McGuane. His name conjures up visions of Jimmy Buffet (his brother in law), “literary lion” Jim Harrison, Tom himself, and hedonistic Key West in the 70s. There’s even a documentary about that time, All That is Sacred. Or you may have heard larger than life Hollywood tales about him and Marlon Brando, Robert Redford, and Jeff Bridges. His finger prints are on 92 in the Shade, Rancho Deluxe, The Missouri Breaks, and others. These days though, in his eighties, he’s a revered Montana writer with whom the New Yorker Magazine has first right of refusal on his fiction, who lives on a big ranch on the banks of the West Boulder River, and who counts his family and friends, fly fishing, preserving the land, and riding into the National Cutting Horse Hall of Fame, among his greatest passions. I am pleased to feature Tom as someone who has followed his passion.

Initially intimidated by his reputation, instead of the stuff of rumor and legends, I found him to be an intellectual Andy Griffith-esque kinda guy. You will too. Ours wasn’t so much of an interview really. Talking with Tom, even over the computer with more than one technical issue, was more like sitting on a front porch with a bourbon and watching the river flow by. Shooting the breeze.

So, hook your boots over the metaphorical porch rail with me. Get to know this truly authentic, kind, and approachable Tom McGuane.

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UPDATE: Alenka stays busy doing podcasts about her adventure, skiing, mountain biking, overseeing translations of her book into various languages, with her business Tahoe Teas, and raising funds for the Michael J Fox Foundation to fuel ongoing research and find a cure for Parkinson’s Disease.

Dec. 4, 2024 Can you imagine what you’d do if you had a failed knee surgery, breast cancer, Gardner Syndrome, and your beloved husband was diagnosed with Parkinsons all in the same year? Would you pull the covers over your head or instead, do something hairy and audacious? Something you’ve always wanted to do? Something on your It’s Not Too Late list? My guest, Alenka Vrecek did. And then she wrote a book about it.

She Rides is the story of a woman who struck back at bad news by taking a solo bike ride from Lake Tahoe to Baja California, a quest, if you will. She wanted to test herself and she did, along the way making some valuable discoveries, like happiness lies in appreciating the small moments in life. And she’s got a few things to tell you too. For one, get out of your comfort zone. Do It! And lots more.

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UPDATE: Since we aired this episode, Dan’s on Substack writing about his journeys: Dan Wake where he says “A former hitchhiker and vagabond - and a former trial lawyer - who writes about the charm and mystery of traveling before the internet changed how we see the world.” He’s a great writer - you’ll enjoy his site as much as this conversation.

Nov 1, 2024 After years of delaying gratification, Dan Wake, a former lawyer, shares his journey from his childhood with loads of siblings to practicing law to following his passion for travel and writing. Dan, a wonderful storyteller, tells about trips to exotic places, hitchhiking in the US and Europe, and highlights the unexpected encounters and acts of generosity from strangers. He also discusses the balance he attained between being responsible, pursuing his passions, and the importance of finding fulfillment in life. Dan advises us to take the leap and pursue our passions, recognizing that not everyone has the same opportunities but emphasizing the importance of seizing the ones that come your way.

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Sept. 1, 2024 Bonnie Hough is a badass. She’s been around the world five times and has visited a country for almost every letter of the alphabet. She’s always liked to travel, but she didn’t start out that way. Losing people close to her who valued following their passions was a catalyst, she says, and now it’s just second nature.

Would you believe she traveled to the Great Barrier Reef from the Bay Area on a 4-day trip? Swims in the San Francisco Bay every morning at 7 am, and recently swam in 5 of the Great Lakes in the US? A retired attorney who worked for the State Bar, she loves to visit other countries’ Supreme Courts and has an affinity for Frank Lloyd Wright houses (as does her partner Richard). And best of all? She’s got some advice for us about Doing It!

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August 1, 2024 Former Senator Shawn Keough talks to Teri about her path to public service and her time in the Idaho legislature, including her 3-year role as Co-Chair of the Joint Financial Appropriations Committee (JFAC), working with Representative Maxine Bell. She talks about her love for North Idaho and her constituents, and the issues she focused on while in the Legislature.

She also talks candidly about the changing political dynamics in District 1 and the Legislature, sharing her concerns about recent changes in Idaho’s Republican party platform, the lack of civility, and the importance of disagreeing agreeably in politics.

She explains her passion for public education, her current role on the State Board of Education, and addresses important issues like property taxes and school bonds. Most importantly, she has some advice for anyone who is considering Doing It! (whatever that may be).

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In Part 2, Dave talks about his expeditions and many related-affiliations, and conveys his passion for life: for exploring and for helping kids growing up like him who have to decide if they will let others define them or decide for themselves.

Dave could have given up. Many times, others’ actions and words told him he wasn’t worth much, would never amount to anything. But he didn’t give up. Instead, today he’s a trial attorney who works for the biggest names in business and exploration and who is regularly sought out for his legal skills and knowledge on still-developing exploration (ocean and space) law. He’s also an explorer himself, having been to the Titanic five times, recovered Apollo F-1 engines from the bottom of the ocean, and much more.

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UPDATE: The good news is that David has just begun posting on Substack. His chops as a writer are as good as you might imagine. Check him out at: @davidconcannon1

July 1, 2024 The odds weren’t good that David Concannon would have made something of himself, but he wasn’t listening. He didn’t have a lot of champions but the ones he had made all the difference. From his grandfather to camp counselors and teachers, to writers like Tim Cahill these were those who shaped him, who helped him become David. Largely because of them, he refused to be limited by others’ negative perception of his prospects.

In Part 1 he talks about how the dream of exploration was implanted in him and about meeting a special girl in Jersey who he lost track of for awhile but later married. He traces his educational trajectory and development as a lawyer and talks about working for a judge who had a hand in his becoming, as well.

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In Part 2, we discuss My Malaria, a story Tim wrote for Outside Magazine that changed my trajectory, his own inspiration via Edward Abbey’s “Desert Solitaire”, his pet charity, the Makindu Children’s Project and what it means to take a Proper Walk through a desert of death, dead turtle babies that changed things in Mexico, his near-death experience in the Grand Canyon, what Tim wants us to know after he’s gone, and much more.

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June 1, 2024 He’s been called America’s best known (and funniest) adventure travel writer, a Working-Class Hero, The Godfather of Travel Writing, the Wise Guy of Travel Lit Lite, an apostle of irreverence, and a Mishap Maestro. I just call him Tim. Freaking. Cahill. Tim’s why many of us write about travel.

In Part 1, Tim talks about leaving law school to pursue new journalism (which he made up as he went), pissing off a chef at the Mark Hopkins, spending “3 years in the sewer” of John Wayne Gacy’s mind, his partner, Nancy Kessler, and a bunch of other stuff.

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UPDATE: By the time this aired, he was months away from his 6th murder mystery, a book that’s since been sweeping all kinds of awards, and now he’s working on his memoir. The Energizer Bunny’s got nothing on John. Learn more here: https://johndedakis.com/

May 7, 2024 John had another dream. He had a story to tell. So while working as a journalist he started writing the first of five mystery novels, writing in the voice of a twenty-something female journalist, protagonist Lark Chadwick. So far Lark’s had quite a ride - in books 4 and 5, she’s a White House Correspondent and in his soon to be published 6th book, she’s the President’s Press Secretary.

In his mystery novels, John says, he’s worked through some major events from his first life including the suicide of his sister Georgia, and the death of his son Stephen from a heroin overdose. In Part 2, we talk about John’s life as an award winning full time writer, writing coach, manuscript editor, a leader of writing workshops at literary centers and writers’ conferences and host of a podcast, “One-to-One”, on YouTube, Facebook, and LinkedIn.

Turns out his second life, despite the glories of the first, is his best life.

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UPDATE: By the time this aired, he was months away from his 6th murder mystery, a book that’s since been sweeping all kinds of awards, and now he’s working on his memoir. The Energizer Bunny’s got nothing on John. Learn more here: https://johndedakis.com/.

May 7, 2024 John DeDakis had a dream. Well, he had a lot of them, but since he couldn’t be President of the United States he set his sights on journalism and eventually, on being a White House Correspondent. A talented journalist, he worked for 45 years for media outlets CBN and CNN. He was a White House Correspondent and worked as a senior editor on Wolf Blitzer’s Situation Room helping cover important stories. It was an exciting, successful, and rewarding first life.

Part 1 of our conversation covers that first life.

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UPDATE: Kim’s documentary, Where the Forest Roars, is out and I’m so excited to see it. I listened to her book on Audible, Elephants in the Hourglass, and it’s such a great read. The story, in so many ways, is about how Kim’s life was really in an hourglass too and how her quest to discover truth and spread the news she learned transformed her life. Learn more about Kim at: Kim Frank Writer.

Mar 27, 2024 In Part 1 we learned that Kim Frank is a proud Jersey Girl, an accomplished writer, editor, mom, wife (and so much more) who now lives in Sun Valley, Idaho. In Part 2 of my conversation with Kim, she talks about how she became a member of the renowned Explorers Club and has learned to take the long view as a path to living her best life. Take a listen and get inspired, will ya? Then, go out and carpe diem!

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UPDATE: Kim’s documentary, Where the Forest Roars, is out and I’m so excited to see it. I listened to her book on Audible, Elephants in the Hourglass, and it’s such a great read. The story, in so many ways, is about how Kim’s life was really in an hourglass too and how her quest to discover truth and spread the news she learned transformed her life. Learn more about Kim at: Kim Frank Writer.

Mar 27, 2024 In Part 1 we learned that Kim Frank is a proud Jersey Girl, an accomplished writer, editor, mom, wife (and so much more) who now lives in Sun Valley, Idaho. In Part 2 of my conversation with Kim, she talks about how she became a member of the renowned Explorers Club and has learned to take the long view as a path to living her best life.

Kim’s passionate about making a difference in the world and shares about her journey to becoming an Explorer and documentary filmmaker focused on the human/Asian elephant conflict on the border between India and the Himalayas.

She also gave me my new favorite quote from Confucius - “We all have two lives. The second begins when we learn we only have one.” Oh, man! When she found her calling, Kim had already had a successful life and career. But she wanted more. Take a listen and get inspired, will ya? Then, go out and carpe diem!

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Mar 1, 2024 Before becoming storytellers about wines, wine regions, vine-huggers, and the things that make them worth hearing about, Jan De Weerd traveled the world as a scientific evangelist for Idaho potatoes as the VP of Global Ag at Lamb Weston and Tammy De Weerd dedicated her heart and soul to her community. To politics, serving as the Mayor of Meridian for 16 years. You’ll want to meet these two powerful, dynamic, inspiring people as they talk about what they found in retirement: a shared passion that shaped and continues to shape their lives long after they quit their day jobs. Be like Tammy and Jan. Carpe diem!

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UPDATE: Visit Timathea at https://timathea.com/ to learn about the many things she’s done and is planning to do since she talked with Teri.

Jan. 30, 2024 Teri talks to Timathea Workman, an award winning writer, photographer, international speaker, and writing coach who helps people achieve their writing dreams, leads writing retreats and group tours, explores North America in her camper van, writes about her adventures, and oh yeah, brings solar lanterns to people without access to electricity.

She loves encouraging people to step out of their comfort zones and discover what they are capable of. She has explored 57 countries, 6 continents, and all but one of the US states. Timathea has followed her one-life passion down a most-unique career path.

Explore the podcast.

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Dec. 27, 2024 In this podcast Teri talks with Cedric Nwafor, inspirational leader of Roots Africa, a nonprofit dedicated to solving hunger and poverty in Africa by equipping young men and women to become change makers in their communities and countries. Teri traveled to Uganda with Cedric and his team and saw firsthand the difference they've made there. Incredible.

Cedric exemplifies someone who’s living his one and only life!

“We all have two lives. The second one begins when we realize we only have one.” - Confucius

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