Some turning points whisper before they roar.

Psychotherapist and author Julie Christensen shares the deeply personal story of helping her son through a mental health crisis—when clinical knowledge collided with the raw reality of being a parent. From resisting involuntary hospitalization to creating safety at home and leaning on faith and community, Julie opens up about the quiet, daily work of protecting someone you love.

Together we explore the difference between belief, faith, and trust—and how tiny moments of progress can become lifelines in the wilderness.

This episode offers honest insight, practical tools, and hope for anyone supporting a loved one through mental health struggles.

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You can do everything “right” and still feel stuck. You prayed, you obeyed, you believed and the evidence still hasn’t caught up. That’s the tension we sit in today, and we refuse to pretend it’s easy.

I’m joined by Dr. Tina J. Ramsey, CEO and media leader behind CTR Media Network, to talk about what obedience looks like when clarity comes after you move. She shares the humbling story of starting a network, failing because she didn’t follow God’s instructions, and rebuilding from scratch with a new foundation of surrender and Isaiah 40:31. We also unpack a surprising truth for high-capacity people: the pause can be the assignment, and rest can be an act of worship.

One of the most powerful moments is Dr. Ramsey’s 21-day shutdown from business, no emails, no replies, no chasing opportunities, just prayer, fasting, Scripture, and family. The fear was real, the silence was real, and the opportunities kept coming anyway. That season sharpened her discernment and proved that delayed evidence doesn’t mean denied purpose. She also shares a practical five-step decision framework you can use right now: listen, think, pause, pray, and wait, especially when God feels quiet and your mind is loud.

If you’re in a waiting season, wrestling with doubt, anxiety, or the pressure to move fast, come lean in with us. Subscribe, share this with a friend who’s holding on by a thread, and leave a review so more people can find hope between the prayer and the promise.

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When hope feels impossible and the promise seems buried, what keeps you moving forward?

In this episode of Between the Prayer and the Promise, Laneice sits down with Debbie Simmons—legacy architect, bestselling author, and founder of Anchor Point—to talk about navigating grief, rebuilding faith, and discovering purpose in the in-between seasons of life.

Debbie shares her journey from infertility to a pregnancy with quadruplets, the heartbreaking loss of her sons, and the unexpected redemption that followed through adoption. Together, we explore practical ways to move forward when life doesn’t go as planned, including Debbie’s powerful “next best step” framework for rebuilding hope one step at a time.

This honest conversation will encourage anyone walking through loss, delayed dreams, or the long waiting season between prayer and promise.

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We talk about the sacred art of moving scared and why taking the next step can honor God even when we do not have clarity. We lean on Scripture and real-life honesty to remember that we are not lost, we are being led.
• moving forward with trembling faith instead of waiting for certainty
• walking by faith and not by sight as a daily practice
• finding comfort in Isaiah 42:16 and God’s promise to guide the blind
• letting go of the need for timelines, reasons, and full road maps
• trusting God’s redemption even after wrong turns and mistakes
• seeing fear as evidence of faith through Peter, Abraham, and Mary
• choosing progress over perfection and surrender over control
And if it's for someone else, please feel free to like, share, and encourage someone else.

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When sight fails… what do you hold onto?

What do you do when the world turns white and the wind roars over a knife-edge ridge?

In this episode of Between the Prayer and the Promise, we sit down with Brian Dickinson—former U.S. Navy Aviation Rescue Swimmer, solo Mount Everest summiter, and author of Blind Descent—to trace the moment his goggles failed, his vision vanished, and the only way home was one step at a time.

At nearly 29,000 feet, with oxygen dwindling and no rescue in sight, Brian leaned on years of elite training to fight panic. But he quickly discovered that survival required more than preparation—it demanded surrender.

In this powerful conversation, we explore how discipline and spiritual dependence can coexist without canceling each other out. Brian shares how he navigated by sound and touch along fixed lines, braced against 50-mph winds on a two-foot-wide ridge, and reversed the Hillary Step without sight. He also recounts the quiet presence he felt in the storm—and the simple prayer, “God, I cannot do this alone,” that coincided with renewed strength and even a failed oxygen bottle coming back to life.

We unpack Psalm 46:10—“Be still and know that I am God”—not as a decorative verse, but as a survival strategy. Stillness as mental clarity. Stillness as sacred trust. Stillness when outcomes are uncertain.

Beyond the summit, Brian speaks candidly about survivor’s guilt, identity, and purpose. What does it mean to come home when hundreds never do? How do you refuse to let your identity freeze around a single achievement? Instead of chasing the next summit, Brian centers his life on faith, family, and service—meeting others on their mountains with honesty and hope.

If your path right now feels like a blind descent—whether it’s grief, burnout, or a decision you can’t see through—Brian offers two anchors:

Faith and focus.
Focus reduces the impossible to the next step.
Faith entrusts the outcome to God.

Be still. Ask. Listen. Then move.

If this episode encouraged you, subscribe, leave a review, and share it with someone who needs steady ground today.

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What if the heat you feel isn’t punishment — but preparation?

In this powerful and deeply honest conversation, author and advocate Karol Holmes invites us into the furnace of her story and shows how affliction can become a forge for trust, courage, and costly love.

We trace her unexpected journey — from hosting a Haitian infant for heart surgery, to adopting three children with complex medical needs, to walking through the devastating loss of two sons: one in sudden tragedy, and one after decades of suffering. Her story is tender and unvarnished, yet anchored in a steady hope that only grows in valleys.

Karol shares the spiritual practices that sustained her when fear and isolation threatened to pull her under. Each morning, she wrote a simple surrender — returning her son to the care of his Creator. Throughout the day, she whispered a breath prayer:
 Inhale: “Be still.”
 Exhale: “And know that I am God.”

Those few words became a lifeline through long nights, relentless “what ifs,” and the ache of leaving her son in a facility two hours away.

We talk about how Scripture moved from the page into her body.
 How honesty deepened her relationship with Jesus.
 And how sometimes God answers by lightening the load — and sometimes by strengthening your back.

Along the way, we explore:

• Sovereignty and choice without fear-driven formulas
• The hidden grace of a home guarded from blame after tragedy
• The quiet gifts of ordinary joy when Moise finally lived close to home

Karol’s witness reframes affliction as formation — inviting us to see God’s nearness where we least expect it.

If you’re walking through your own furnace, this conversation will give you language for surrender, tools for anxiety, and a fresh vision of refining fire that shapes rather than destroys.

If this episode met you in the heat, share it with someone you love, subscribe to the show, and leave a review with one practice you’ll try this week. Your words may help someone else find hope in their valley.

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Stop Waiting for a Burning Bush

We often believe purpose will arrive in a single, undeniable moment—a burning bush, a prophetic word, a clear sign that changes everything overnight.
 But what if purpose isn’t always revealed in stillness…
 What if it’s revealed while you’re already in motion?

In this episode of Between the Prayer and the Promise, host Laneice Runnels invites you into an honest, faith-filled conversation about the in-between season—the place where identity is formed, faith is refined, and purpose begins to unfold through serving.

Drawing from her personal journey and reflections from 7 Day Journey to Discovering Your Purpose, Laneice shares how serving others during a season of uncertainty became the very place God shaped her calling. This episode explores the powerful difference between believing God is able—and believing God is able through you.

If you’ve been waiting for clarity…
 If you feel unseen, overlooked, or unsure if what you’re doing matters…
 If you’re serving faithfully but still wondering, “Is this it?”

This episode is for you.

Anchored in Hebrews 10:23, this conversation is a reminder that the waiting is not wasted, the serving is not small, and God is faithful to fulfill every promise—often beginning long before we see the outcome.

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 🙏 Honest faith. Real stories. Hope for the in-between.

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This episode shares the heart behind Between the Prayer and the Promise.

There are seasons in life when you’re not where you used to be, but you’re also unsure of what’s next. The waiting feels heavy. The prayers feel quiet. And faith feels stretched in ways you never expected.

In this opening episode, I share a personal story from a season when I felt lost, unseen, and unsure—even to the point where I struggled to pray. I reflect on how a simple, unexpected act of kindness became a reminder that God sees us, even in moments when we feel forgotten.

This episode is for anyone navigating the in-between—those holding on to faith while waiting for clarity, healing, direction, or fulfillment of a promise. It’s a reminder that the waiting is not wasted, and that God is faithful in every season, especially the ones that test us most.

If you’ve ever felt stuck between what you’ve prayed for and what you’re still believing for, this space was created for you.

“Let us hold unswervingly to the hope we profess, for He who promised is faithful.”
 — Hebrews 10:23 (NIV)

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 There is a season between what we’ve prayed for and what God has promised—and it’s not empty. In this opening episode, Laneice shares the heart behind Between the Prayer and the Promise and why testimonies matter. This podcast was created to encourage you to hold on, trust God, and remember that He sees you and has not forgotten you. If you’re waiting, this episode is for you. 

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✨ Remember: God sees you. You are not forgotten.