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    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>This episode of the </b><b><em>Anesthesia Economics Podcast</em></b><b> was recorded live at the Anesthesia Economics Summit in Charleston.</b></p><p>In this episode, Bellinger Moody explains the TEAM model. The Transforming Episode Accountability Model (TEAM) is a new mandatory CMS alternative payment model that holds hospitals financially accountable for surgical episodes from the operation through 30 days post-discharge, shifting care from fee-for-service to value-based care and tying bonuses or penalties to cost and quality performance over a five-year period starting in 2026.</p><p>The episode-based bundled payments, composite quality scores, and escalating upside/downside risk make perioperative medicine clinics critical for pre-op optimization, standardizing pathways, reducing cancellations, preventing post-acute cost overruns, and serving as a data backbone so hospitals can control episodes instead of absorbing CMS paybacks.</p><p>Explore the full episode here: https://www.medaxion.com/bellinger-moody-cms-team-alternative-payment-transforming-episode-accountability-model</p><p>Jeff McLaren introduces the speakers and panelists whose discussions were recorded live at the 2026 Anesthesia Economics Summit.</p><p>Watch on <a href='https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLpZoxvNDXI7RHAd1ho8-jX9rUKMUg4KZZ&amp;si=fqsBYVldi6b4ejOP'>YouTube</a>. Learn more about <a href='https://www.medaxion.com/'>Medaxion&apos;s solutions</a>.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <description><![CDATA[<p><b>This episode of the </b><b><em>Anesthesia Economics Podcast</em></b><b> was recorded live at the Anesthesia Economics Summit in Charleston.</b></p><p>In this episode, Dr. Chris Steel explores how perioperative medicine and pre-op clinic models can reduce cancellations, improve optimization, and support patient-centered care while remaining financially sustainable. </p><p>Dr. Steel walks through four models from day-of-surgery assessments to fully integrated perioperative health clinics, highlighting the role of AI, nurses, APNs, and physicians in screening and optimization. </p><p>He also explains how proper setup and billing for EM, advanced care planning, and related services can transform pre-op clinics from “money pits” into self-sustaining programs.</p><p>Explore the full episode page here: https://www.medaxion.com/dr-chris-steel-reframing-the-perioperative-visit</p><p>Jeff McLaren introduces the speakers and panelists whose discussions were recorded live at the 2026 Anesthesia Economics Summit.</p><p>Watch on <a href='https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLpZoxvNDXI7RHAd1ho8-jX9rUKMUg4KZZ&amp;si=fqsBYVldi6b4ejOP'>YouTube</a>. Learn more about <a href='https://www.medaxion.com/'>Medaxion&apos;s solutions</a>.</p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>This episode of the </b><b><em>Anesthesia Economics Podcast</em></b><b> was recorded live at the Anesthesia Economics Summit in Charleston.</b></p><p>In this episode, Dr. Chris Steel explores how perioperative medicine and pre-op clinic models can reduce cancellations, improve optimization, and support patient-centered care while remaining financially sustainable. </p><p>Dr. Steel walks through four models from day-of-surgery assessments to fully integrated perioperative health clinics, highlighting the role of AI, nurses, APNs, and physicians in screening and optimization. </p><p>He also explains how proper setup and billing for EM, advanced care planning, and related services can transform pre-op clinics from “money pits” into self-sustaining programs.</p><p>Explore the full episode page here: https://www.medaxion.com/dr-chris-steel-reframing-the-perioperative-visit</p><p>Jeff McLaren introduces the speakers and panelists whose discussions were recorded live at the 2026 Anesthesia Economics Summit.</p><p>Watch on <a href='https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLpZoxvNDXI7RHAd1ho8-jX9rUKMUg4KZZ&amp;si=fqsBYVldi6b4ejOP'>YouTube</a>. Learn more about <a href='https://www.medaxion.com/'>Medaxion&apos;s solutions</a>.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[In this episode, special guest host Mike Wirth (Chief Growth Officer at Medaxion) sits down with Joe Rodrigo, DO, FAOCA of ProMedical to break down one of the biggest questions facing healthcare leaders today: should hospitals employ anesthesiologists or outsource? Dr. Rodrigo shares why the answer isn’t as simple as it seems, explaining the hidden costs, operational challenges, and long-term risks of employment models. They also discuss private equity’s role in rising costs and why many syst...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode, special guest host Mike Wirth (Chief Growth Officer at Medaxion) sits down with Joe Rodrigo, DO, FAOCA of ProMedical to break down one of the biggest questions facing healthcare leaders today: should hospitals employ anesthesiologists or outsource? Dr. Rodrigo shares why the answer isn’t as simple as it seems, explaining the hidden costs, operational challenges, and long-term risks of employment models. They also discuss private equity’s role in rising costs and why many systems regret rushing into major staffing decisions. This conversation offers a practical look at how healthcare leaders can avoid costly missteps and make more informed decisions.</p><p>Explore the full episode page: https://www.medaxion.com/dr-joseph-rodrigo-promedical-anesthesia-staffing</p><p>Jeff McLaren introduces the speakers and panelists whose discussions were recorded live at the 2026 Anesthesia Economics Summit.</p><p>Watch on <a href='https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLpZoxvNDXI7RHAd1ho8-jX9rUKMUg4KZZ&amp;si=fqsBYVldi6b4ejOP'>YouTube</a>. Learn more about <a href='https://www.medaxion.com/'>Medaxion&apos;s solutions</a>.</p>]]></description>
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    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[This episode of the Anesthesia Economics Podcast was recorded live at the Anesthesia Economics Summit in Charleston. In this conversation, Jeff talks with Aaron Stewart, CFO of Symmetry Anesthesia, who  breaks down how anesthesia coverage models are evolving and why there’s no one-size-fits-all approach for hospitals.  Aaron explains how financial modeling helps facilities understand cost drivers, structure care teams, and make more informed decisions. The discussion highlights the ...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p><b>This episode of the </b><b><em>Anesthesia Economics Podcast</em></b><b> was recorded live at the Anesthesia Economics Summit in Charleston.</b></p><p>In this conversation, Jeff talks with Aaron Stewart, CFO of Symmetry Anesthesia, who  breaks down how anesthesia coverage models are evolving and why there’s no one-size-fits-all approach for hospitals. </p><p>Aaron explains how financial modeling helps facilities understand cost drivers, structure care teams, and make more informed decisions. The discussion highlights the shift toward physician-CRNA models, the realities of provider shortages, and why controlling costs matters more than simply reducing them. Stewart also shares how scale, staffing flexibility, and market dynamics shape where and how anesthesia groups can succeed.</p><p>Explore our full episode page to watch a video or read a transcript of the full interview: https://www.medaxion.com/aaron-stewart-symmetry-anesthesia-cfo-on-changing-the-math-on-the-anesthesia-stipend</p><p>Jeff McLaren introduces the speakers and panelists whose discussions were recorded live at the 2026 Anesthesia Economics Summit.</p><p>Watch on <a href='https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLpZoxvNDXI7RHAd1ho8-jX9rUKMUg4KZZ&amp;si=fqsBYVldi6b4ejOP'>YouTube</a>. Learn more about <a href='https://www.medaxion.com/'>Medaxion&apos;s solutions</a>.</p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>This episode of the </b><b><em>Anesthesia Economics Podcast</em></b><b> was recorded live at the Anesthesia Economics Summit in Charleston.</b></p><p>In this conversation, Jeff talks with Aaron Stewart, CFO of Symmetry Anesthesia, who  breaks down how anesthesia coverage models are evolving and why there’s no one-size-fits-all approach for hospitals. </p><p>Aaron explains how financial modeling helps facilities understand cost drivers, structure care teams, and make more informed decisions. The discussion highlights the shift toward physician-CRNA models, the realities of provider shortages, and why controlling costs matters more than simply reducing them. Stewart also shares how scale, staffing flexibility, and market dynamics shape where and how anesthesia groups can succeed.</p><p>Explore our full episode page to watch a video or read a transcript of the full interview: https://www.medaxion.com/aaron-stewart-symmetry-anesthesia-cfo-on-changing-the-math-on-the-anesthesia-stipend</p><p>Jeff McLaren introduces the speakers and panelists whose discussions were recorded live at the 2026 Anesthesia Economics Summit.</p><p>Watch on <a href='https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLpZoxvNDXI7RHAd1ho8-jX9rUKMUg4KZZ&amp;si=fqsBYVldi6b4ejOP'>YouTube</a>. Learn more about <a href='https://www.medaxion.com/'>Medaxion&apos;s solutions</a>.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[This episode of the Anesthesia Economics Podcast was recorded live at the Anesthesia Economics Summit in Charleston. As the anesthesia landscape continues to evolve, leaders are being challenged to navigate a complex mix of workforce shortages, rising costs, shifting care models, and increasing demand across settings. In this panel discussion, industry leaders share how they are approaching leadership in this environment by balancing clinical excellence with financial sustainability, while ad...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p><b>This episode of the </b><b><em>Anesthesia Economics Podcast</em></b><b> was recorded live at the Anesthesia Economics Summit in Charleston.</b></p><p>As the anesthesia landscape continues to evolve, leaders are being challenged to navigate a complex mix of workforce shortages, rising costs, shifting care models, and increasing demand across settings.</p><p>In this panel discussion, industry leaders share how they are approaching leadership in this environment by balancing clinical excellence with financial sustainability, while adapting to constant change.</p><p>You’ll hear practical insights on:</p><ul><li> Leading anesthesia teams through workforce and market disruption </li><li> Aligning clinical, operational, and financial priorities </li><li> Adapting to shifting site-of-care dynamics and demand patterns </li><li> Building resilient, high-performing teams </li><li> The evolving role of leadership in anesthesia organizations </li></ul><p>As pressures continue to mount across the healthcare system, this conversation offers a real-world look at how leaders are positioning their organizations for what’s next.</p><p>Panelists:</p><ul><li>Jeff Peters, Sullivan Consulting (Moderator)</li><li>Tom Rossi, Jackson Physician Search</li><li>Joseph Rodrigo, DO, ProMedical</li><li>Mark Wimberly, MD, Trident Anesthesia Group</li></ul><p>Explore the full episode page: https://www.medaxion.com/driving-effectiveness-for-the-next-generation-​of-anesthesia-leadership​</p><p>Jeff McLaren introduces the speakers and panelists whose discussions were recorded live at the 2026 Anesthesia Economics Summit.</p><p>Watch on <a href='https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLpZoxvNDXI7RHAd1ho8-jX9rUKMUg4KZZ&amp;si=fqsBYVldi6b4ejOP'>YouTube</a>. Learn more about <a href='https://www.medaxion.com/'>Medaxion&apos;s solutions</a>.</p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>This episode of the </b><b><em>Anesthesia Economics Podcast</em></b><b> was recorded live at the Anesthesia Economics Summit in Charleston.</b></p><p>As the anesthesia landscape continues to evolve, leaders are being challenged to navigate a complex mix of workforce shortages, rising costs, shifting care models, and increasing demand across settings.</p><p>In this panel discussion, industry leaders share how they are approaching leadership in this environment by balancing clinical excellence with financial sustainability, while adapting to constant change.</p><p>You’ll hear practical insights on:</p><ul><li> Leading anesthesia teams through workforce and market disruption </li><li> Aligning clinical, operational, and financial priorities </li><li> Adapting to shifting site-of-care dynamics and demand patterns </li><li> Building resilient, high-performing teams </li><li> The evolving role of leadership in anesthesia organizations </li></ul><p>As pressures continue to mount across the healthcare system, this conversation offers a real-world look at how leaders are positioning their organizations for what’s next.</p><p>Panelists:</p><ul><li>Jeff Peters, Sullivan Consulting (Moderator)</li><li>Tom Rossi, Jackson Physician Search</li><li>Joseph Rodrigo, DO, ProMedical</li><li>Mark Wimberly, MD, Trident Anesthesia Group</li></ul><p>Explore the full episode page: https://www.medaxion.com/driving-effectiveness-for-the-next-generation-​of-anesthesia-leadership​</p><p>Jeff McLaren introduces the speakers and panelists whose discussions were recorded live at the 2026 Anesthesia Economics Summit.</p><p>Watch on <a href='https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLpZoxvNDXI7RHAd1ho8-jX9rUKMUg4KZZ&amp;si=fqsBYVldi6b4ejOP'>YouTube</a>. Learn more about <a href='https://www.medaxion.com/'>Medaxion&apos;s solutions</a>.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <description><![CDATA[<p><b>This episode of the Anesthesia Economics Podcast was recorded live at the Anesthesia Economics Summit in Charleston.<br/></b><br/>As demand for anesthesia services continues to rise, care is expanding far beyond the traditional operating room. From endoscopy suites and interventional radiology to procedural and outpatient settings, health systems are being challenged to deliver safe, efficient anesthesia coverage across a growing range of environments.<br/><br/>In this panel discussion, industry leaders explore how organizations are adapting to this shift by rethinking staffing models, care delivery, and operational strategy to meet demand wherever it occurs.<br/><br/>You’ll hear practical insights on:</p><ul><li>Expanding anesthesia coverage beyond the OR</li><li>Balancing staffing across procedural and non-OR settings</li><li>Managing throughput, scheduling, and resource allocation</li><li>Maintaining quality and consistency across diverse care environments</li><li>The operational and financial implications of distributed anesthesia demand</li></ul><p>As anesthesia demand continues to outpace supply, this conversation offers a real-world look at how leading organizations are evolving to keep up.<br/><br/>Panelists:</p><ul><li>Patty Carey, Bon Secours (Moderator)</li><li>Clint Stewart, Self Regional Healthcare</li><li>Tom Wherry, MD, Scope Concepts</li><li>Mark Carithers, MD, Prisma Health</li></ul><p>Explore the full episode page: https://www.medaxion.com/meeting-the-rising-demand-for-anesthesia-beyond-the-or</p><p>Jeff McLaren introduces the speakers and panelists whose discussions were recorded live at the 2026 Anesthesia Economics Summit.</p><p>Watch on <a href='https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLpZoxvNDXI7RHAd1ho8-jX9rUKMUg4KZZ&amp;si=fqsBYVldi6b4ejOP'>YouTube</a>. Learn more about <a href='https://www.medaxion.com/'>Medaxion&apos;s solutions</a>.</p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>This episode of the Anesthesia Economics Podcast was recorded live at the Anesthesia Economics Summit in Charleston.<br/></b><br/>As demand for anesthesia services continues to rise, care is expanding far beyond the traditional operating room. From endoscopy suites and interventional radiology to procedural and outpatient settings, health systems are being challenged to deliver safe, efficient anesthesia coverage across a growing range of environments.<br/><br/>In this panel discussion, industry leaders explore how organizations are adapting to this shift by rethinking staffing models, care delivery, and operational strategy to meet demand wherever it occurs.<br/><br/>You’ll hear practical insights on:</p><ul><li>Expanding anesthesia coverage beyond the OR</li><li>Balancing staffing across procedural and non-OR settings</li><li>Managing throughput, scheduling, and resource allocation</li><li>Maintaining quality and consistency across diverse care environments</li><li>The operational and financial implications of distributed anesthesia demand</li></ul><p>As anesthesia demand continues to outpace supply, this conversation offers a real-world look at how leading organizations are evolving to keep up.<br/><br/>Panelists:</p><ul><li>Patty Carey, Bon Secours (Moderator)</li><li>Clint Stewart, Self Regional Healthcare</li><li>Tom Wherry, MD, Scope Concepts</li><li>Mark Carithers, MD, Prisma Health</li></ul><p>Explore the full episode page: https://www.medaxion.com/meeting-the-rising-demand-for-anesthesia-beyond-the-or</p><p>Jeff McLaren introduces the speakers and panelists whose discussions were recorded live at the 2026 Anesthesia Economics Summit.</p><p>Watch on <a href='https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLpZoxvNDXI7RHAd1ho8-jX9rUKMUg4KZZ&amp;si=fqsBYVldi6b4ejOP'>YouTube</a>. Learn more about <a href='https://www.medaxion.com/'>Medaxion&apos;s solutions</a>.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[This episode of the Anesthesia Economics Podcast was recorded live at the Anesthesia Economics Summit in Charleston. As anesthesia groups and health systems face ongoing staffing shortages, rising costs, and increasing operational complexity, traditional staffing models are no longer enough.  In this panel discussion, industry leaders break down what’s actually working today, from flexible locum tenens strategies to hybrid employment models, and discuss how organizations are balancing co...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p><b>This episode of the Anesthesia Economics Podcast was recorded live at the Anesthesia Economics Summit in Charleston.</b></p><p>As anesthesia groups and health systems face ongoing staffing shortages, rising costs, and increasing operational complexity, traditional staffing models are no longer enough. </p><p>In this panel discussion, industry leaders break down what’s actually working today, from flexible locum tenens strategies to hybrid employment models, and discuss how organizations are balancing cost, culture, and continuity of care.<br/><br/></p><p>You’ll hear practical insights on:</p><ul><li>Aligning providers across employed and contracted models</li><li>Reducing turnover and improving retention</li><li>Navigating compensation pressure and workforce shortages</li><li>Using data to drive smarter staffing and operational decisions</li></ul><p>Whether you&apos;re leading an anesthesia group, managing perioperative services, or navigating staffing challenges at the health system level, this conversation offers a grounded look at how to build more sustainable, high-performing teams.<br/><br/></p><p>Panelists:</p><ul><li>David Donnelly, Trinity Health Advisors (Moderator)</li><li>Stephen Porter, Piedmont Healthcare</li><li>Todd Horowitz, DO, Hospital Staffing Partners</li><li>Spencer Lilly, Medaxion</li></ul><p>Explore the full episode page: https://www.medaxion.com/successful-anesthesia-staffing-strategies</p><p>Jeff McLaren introduces the speakers and panelists whose discussions were recorded live at the 2026 Anesthesia Economics Summit.</p><p>Watch on <a href='https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLpZoxvNDXI7RHAd1ho8-jX9rUKMUg4KZZ&amp;si=fqsBYVldi6b4ejOP'>YouTube</a>. Learn more about <a href='https://www.medaxion.com/'>Medaxion&apos;s solutions</a>.</p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>This episode of the Anesthesia Economics Podcast was recorded live at the Anesthesia Economics Summit in Charleston.</b></p><p>As anesthesia groups and health systems face ongoing staffing shortages, rising costs, and increasing operational complexity, traditional staffing models are no longer enough. </p><p>In this panel discussion, industry leaders break down what’s actually working today, from flexible locum tenens strategies to hybrid employment models, and discuss how organizations are balancing cost, culture, and continuity of care.<br/><br/></p><p>You’ll hear practical insights on:</p><ul><li>Aligning providers across employed and contracted models</li><li>Reducing turnover and improving retention</li><li>Navigating compensation pressure and workforce shortages</li><li>Using data to drive smarter staffing and operational decisions</li></ul><p>Whether you&apos;re leading an anesthesia group, managing perioperative services, or navigating staffing challenges at the health system level, this conversation offers a grounded look at how to build more sustainable, high-performing teams.<br/><br/></p><p>Panelists:</p><ul><li>David Donnelly, Trinity Health Advisors (Moderator)</li><li>Stephen Porter, Piedmont Healthcare</li><li>Todd Horowitz, DO, Hospital Staffing Partners</li><li>Spencer Lilly, Medaxion</li></ul><p>Explore the full episode page: https://www.medaxion.com/successful-anesthesia-staffing-strategies</p><p>Jeff McLaren introduces the speakers and panelists whose discussions were recorded live at the 2026 Anesthesia Economics Summit.</p><p>Watch on <a href='https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLpZoxvNDXI7RHAd1ho8-jX9rUKMUg4KZZ&amp;si=fqsBYVldi6b4ejOP'>YouTube</a>. Learn more about <a href='https://www.medaxion.com/'>Medaxion&apos;s solutions</a>.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Dr. Michael R. Hicks, President of Anesthesia Services at HCA Healthcare, breaks down the growing challenges in anesthesia, from workforce shortages to rising financial pressures. He explains why “hope is not a strategy” and outlines the need for health systems to rethink how anesthesia resources are allocated. The conversation explores the shift toward non-operating room settings, the importance of system-wide coordination, and how culture, flexibility, and leadership play a critical role in...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p>Dr. Michael R. Hicks, President of Anesthesia Services at HCA Healthcare, breaks down the growing challenges in anesthesia, from workforce shortages to rising financial pressures. He explains why “hope is not a strategy” and outlines the need for health systems to rethink how anesthesia resources are allocated. The conversation explores the shift toward non-operating room settings, the importance of system-wide coordination, and how culture, flexibility, and leadership play a critical role in building sustainable anesthesia models.</p><p>Learn more: https://www.medaxion.com/dr-michael-r-hicks-hca-healthcare-president-anesthesia-services</p><p>Jeff McLaren introduces the speakers and panelists whose discussions were recorded live at the 2026 Anesthesia Economics Summit.</p><p>Watch on <a href='https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLpZoxvNDXI7RHAd1ho8-jX9rUKMUg4KZZ&amp;si=fqsBYVldi6b4ejOP'>YouTube</a>. Learn more about <a href='https://www.medaxion.com/'>Medaxion&apos;s solutions</a>.</p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dr. Michael R. Hicks, President of Anesthesia Services at HCA Healthcare, breaks down the growing challenges in anesthesia, from workforce shortages to rising financial pressures. He explains why “hope is not a strategy” and outlines the need for health systems to rethink how anesthesia resources are allocated. The conversation explores the shift toward non-operating room settings, the importance of system-wide coordination, and how culture, flexibility, and leadership play a critical role in building sustainable anesthesia models.</p><p>Learn more: https://www.medaxion.com/dr-michael-r-hicks-hca-healthcare-president-anesthesia-services</p><p>Jeff McLaren introduces the speakers and panelists whose discussions were recorded live at the 2026 Anesthesia Economics Summit.</p><p>Watch on <a href='https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLpZoxvNDXI7RHAd1ho8-jX9rUKMUg4KZZ&amp;si=fqsBYVldi6b4ejOP'>YouTube</a>. Learn more about <a href='https://www.medaxion.com/'>Medaxion&apos;s solutions</a>.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[In this episode of Anesthesia Economics, Jeff McLaren sits down with Randy Moore, Chief Anesthetist Officer at NorthStar Anesthesia, for a candid conversation on the forces reshaping anesthesia. They unpack payer pressure, workforce shortages, subsidy shock, ASC disruption, and the growing divide between advocacy groups. Randy shares why cultural debt is costing organizations more than they realize, how avoidance compounds in leadership, and why data-driven OR strategy is essential in today’s...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of Anesthesia Economics, Jeff McLaren sits down with Randy Moore, Chief Anesthetist Officer at NorthStar Anesthesia, for a candid conversation on the forces reshaping anesthesia. They unpack payer pressure, workforce shortages, subsidy shock, ASC disruption, and the growing divide between advocacy groups. Randy shares why cultural debt is costing organizations more than they realize, how avoidance compounds in leadership, and why data-driven OR strategy is essential in today’s margin-tight environment. A sharp, honest look at economics, leadership, and the future of anesthesia.</p><p>Explore the full episode page: https://www.medaxion.com/randy-moore-northstar-anesthesia</p><p>Watch on <a href='https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLpZoxvNDXI7RHAd1ho8-jX9rUKMUg4KZZ&amp;si=fqsBYVldi6b4ejOP'>YouTube</a>. Learn more about <a href='https://www.medaxion.com/'>Medaxion&apos;s solutions</a>.</p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of Anesthesia Economics, Jeff McLaren sits down with Randy Moore, Chief Anesthetist Officer at NorthStar Anesthesia, for a candid conversation on the forces reshaping anesthesia. They unpack payer pressure, workforce shortages, subsidy shock, ASC disruption, and the growing divide between advocacy groups. Randy shares why cultural debt is costing organizations more than they realize, how avoidance compounds in leadership, and why data-driven OR strategy is essential in today’s margin-tight environment. A sharp, honest look at economics, leadership, and the future of anesthesia.</p><p>Explore the full episode page: https://www.medaxion.com/randy-moore-northstar-anesthesia</p><p>Watch on <a href='https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLpZoxvNDXI7RHAd1ho8-jX9rUKMUg4KZZ&amp;si=fqsBYVldi6b4ejOP'>YouTube</a>. Learn more about <a href='https://www.medaxion.com/'>Medaxion&apos;s solutions</a>.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[In this episode of Anesthesia Economics, Jeff McLaren is joined by Daniel Prevost, Medaxion’s Senior Vice President of Strategic Development, to break down why anesthesia stipends have become such a critical issue. They focus on the revenue side of the equation, exploring how scale, regulation, arbitration, and documentation gaps have reshaped anesthesia revenue cycle management. The conversation highlights why anesthesia billing is fundamentally different from other specialties, where revenu...]]></itunes:summary>
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