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    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[What’s the secret to keeping a family and its wealth intact for four generations?  For author and CA Emily Griffiths-Hamilton, the answer isn’t in a trust fund; it’s in a value system. She joins host Derek Jensen to share her family’s extraordinary journey, revealing how they built a “family bank” rooted in social capital and open communication. Learn how they passed down enterprises and ethics in equal measure, and discover why having tough conversations about money is the key to ensuri...]]></itunes:summary>
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    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[What if everything you've been told about inheritance is wrong? What if a "silver spoon" isn't a privilege, but a profound responsibility?  Chip Fisher, founder of Urusus Advisory, sits down with Derek Jensen to challenge the greatest taboo of wealth and the emotional weight it places on heirs. They explore how to transform an inheritance from a burden into a "launchpad," break the silence that cripples families, and leverage the true superpower of passed-down wealth: not the money itsel...]]></itunes:summary>
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    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Here's a question most people never ask: What will your family look like in 2125? Not just your assets. Your family. The people who will carry your name, your values, your stories — or won't. The relationships that will hold strong or fracture. The opportunities your decisions today will create or foreclose a century from now. Most estate planning treats legacy as a transaction—Who Gets What? Divide the assets, sign the documents, done. Estate attorney Derek Jensen questions that approach and...]]></itunes:summary>
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