I Do This for a Living Thu, 15 Oct 2026 09:00:40 -0400 https://idothisforaliving.buzzsprout.com en-us © 2026 I Do This for a Living yes 49b920d9-552f-5727-826d-11ce265d597a Serenity Bohon episodic false A show that asks how we can give as much time and energy to the things that matter as we do to the things that pay. I Do This for a Living is hosted by Serenity Bohon - sarcoma survivor, writer, and day jobbist, forever starstruck by anyone who finds meaning at work and in life. 


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]]> Buzzsprout (https://www.buzzsprout.com) Serenity Bohon https://storage.buzzsprout.com/jtsp14jytpzcz1fsn41dg1hmlsqu?.jpg I Do This for a Living https://idothisforaliving.buzzsprout.com Purpose Every Day with Fr. Mike Coleman Purpose Every Day with Fr. Mike Coleman Serenity visits with her long-time friend, Fr. Mike Coleman. We told the audience in the intro episode that we want to highlight a million different kinds of jobs on this show, and it's still the goal. Fr. Mike and Serenity talk about what led him to feeling called to this work, what it takes to get there, and the fact that he doesn't think of it as work at all. There are very few stories that inspire like a person who loves their work. We think you'll be inspired, too. 

Chapters
3:05 Introducing Fr. Mike
6:10 A Glimpse of the Calling
10:36 Becoming a Priest
20:58 Priestly To-Do's
30:17 St. Louis Cardinals!
35:06 There's a Priest in this Car
39:50 It Worked for Me

Links
Vote for Serenity in the Top Host contest (and sign up for reminders) Go to serenitybohon.com/guest and scroll to the bottom. While you're there, sign up to be a guest!
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]]> Serenity visits with her long-time friend, Fr. Mike Coleman. We told the audience in the intro episode that we want to highlight a million different kinds of jobs on this show, and it's still the goal. Fr. Mike and Serenity talk about what led him to feeling called to this work, what it takes to get there, and the fact that he doesn't think of it as work at all. There are very few stories that inspire like a person who loves their work. We think you'll be inspired, too. 

Chapters
3:05 Introducing Fr. Mike
6:10 A Glimpse of the Calling
10:36 Becoming a Priest
20:58 Priestly To-Do's
30:17 St. Louis Cardinals!
35:06 There's a Priest in this Car
39:50 It Worked for Me

Links
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]]> Serenity Bohon Buzzsprout-19952761 Wed, 14 Oct 2026 04:00:00 -0500 2684 1 27 full false A Degree is Not Who You Are with Parker Bohon A Degree is Not Who You Are with Parker Bohon Today's guest is Parker Bohon. Only four years out of college, Parker has found a remote job that offers a positive work culture and the perfect work-life balance for a new mother. Encouraged throughout her life to be kind and work hard, Parker has found success at work by doing just that. In life, Parker is determined to keep a growth mindset and to love well. Her conversation with Serenity, who happens to be her mother-in-law, touches on all these things and more, including the encouragement that a degree is NOT who you are.

Chapters
1:46 Who is Parker Bohon
8:03 Billable Hours
10:55 Remote for the Win
14:44 Degree Talk
21:01 When Life Surprises You
41:09 That Grown Up Life
42:54 Still Dreaming
47:11 Being Mama
47:45 It Worked for Me

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]]> Today's guest is Parker Bohon. Only four years out of college, Parker has found a remote job that offers a positive work culture and the perfect work-life balance for a new mother. Encouraged throughout her life to be kind and work hard, Parker has found success at work by doing just that. In life, Parker is determined to keep a growth mindset and to love well. Her conversation with Serenity, who happens to be her mother-in-law, touches on all these things and more, including the encouragement that a degree is NOT who you are.

Chapters
1:46 Who is Parker Bohon
8:03 Billable Hours
10:55 Remote for the Win
14:44 Degree Talk
21:01 When Life Surprises You
41:09 That Grown Up Life
42:54 Still Dreaming
47:11 Being Mama
47:45 It Worked for Me

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]]> Serenity Bohon Buzzsprout-19904955 Wed, 07 Oct 2026 04:00:00 -0500 3519 1 26 full false Don’t Let Anyone Say You Can’t with Jodie O’Brien Don’t Let Anyone Say You Can’t with Jodie O’Brien It's Episode 25! Serenity invites journalist and podcast host Jodie O'Brien to celebrate 25 episodes of I Do This For a Living. Jodie teaches us that journalism is more than a skill; it is a worldview. She is a proud graduate of the Mizzou School of Journalism, the oldest journalism school in the country and part of the University of Missouri (Mizzou Rah!). Today, Jodie hosts two podcasts, Influential Women and 39/94. The latter features residents of the northwest corridor of Missouri where Jodie lives and works. Jodie is passionate about local news and featuring the amazing stories we can all find in our friends and neighbors next door.

Chapters
4:11 Jodie's Professional Journey
14:05 Journalism is a worldview
24:44 Make it local
44:41 Dream Roles and Aspirations
45:53 Advice to Our Younger Selves
47:28 Finding Authenticity
50:43 Make it short and simple!
53:05 It Worked for Me

Links

jodieobrien.com

The 39/94 podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-39-94/id1840534384

The 39/94 Patreon page: https://www.patreon.com/cw/The3994 

Influential Women podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/influential-women-podcast/id1850947661 

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]]> It's Episode 25! Serenity invites journalist and podcast host Jodie O'Brien to celebrate 25 episodes of I Do This For a Living. Jodie teaches us that journalism is more than a skill; it is a worldview. She is a proud graduate of the Mizzou School of Journalism, the oldest journalism school in the country and part of the University of Missouri (Mizzou Rah!). Today, Jodie hosts two podcasts, Influential Women and 39/94. The latter features residents of the northwest corridor of Missouri where Jodie lives and works. Jodie is passionate about local news and featuring the amazing stories we can all find in our friends and neighbors next door.

Chapters
4:11 Jodie's Professional Journey
14:05 Journalism is a worldview
24:44 Make it local
44:41 Dream Roles and Aspirations
45:53 Advice to Our Younger Selves
47:28 Finding Authenticity
50:43 Make it short and simple!
53:05 It Worked for Me

Links

jodieobrien.com

The 39/94 podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-39-94/id1840534384

The 39/94 Patreon page: https://www.patreon.com/cw/The3994 

Influential Women podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/influential-women-podcast/id1850947661 

This episode is sponsored by H34Contracting.com

For the beaded designs Serenity’s wearing today: https://www.instagram.com/createinthemargins/


I Do This For a Living is independently produced. 

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]]> Serenity Bohon Buzzsprout-19861559 Wed, 30 Sep 2026 04:00:00 -0500 3321 1 25 full false No One Can Fill Your Shoes with Kiyoko Hairston No One Can Fill Your Shoes with Kiyoko Hairston Serenity welcomes Kiyoko Hairston, author of the children's book Freeda's Fabnificent Feet. As a young adult, Kiyoko earned her SAG card for delivering a line in a movie with Jeff Bridges and Barbara Streisand. While her acting career continued for a time, today Kiyoko is confident in her identity as a storyteller. Her new children's book empowers readers to see their perceived weaknesses as superpowers. Kiyoko's personal story is about figuring out what fills your heart and staying in alignment with what you know you're meant to do until the perfect timing brings it all together.

Chapters
2:20 Who is Kiyoko Hairston
8:56 Work keeps us apart
11:36 Actress Dreams + Reality
31:00 I am a Storyteller
35:44 Freeda’s Fabnificent Feet
56:17 The Perfect Time is Now
1:17:59 What Fills Your heart
1:21:56 It worked for me

Links
FreedasFabnificentFeet.com
Kiyoko on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/freedasfreedom2025/

I Do This For a Living is independently produced. 

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]]> Serenity welcomes Kiyoko Hairston, author of the children's book Freeda's Fabnificent Feet. As a young adult, Kiyoko earned her SAG card for delivering a line in a movie with Jeff Bridges and Barbara Streisand. While her acting career continued for a time, today Kiyoko is confident in her identity as a storyteller. Her new children's book empowers readers to see their perceived weaknesses as superpowers. Kiyoko's personal story is about figuring out what fills your heart and staying in alignment with what you know you're meant to do until the perfect timing brings it all together.

Chapters
2:20 Who is Kiyoko Hairston
8:56 Work keeps us apart
11:36 Actress Dreams + Reality
31:00 I am a Storyteller
35:44 Freeda’s Fabnificent Feet
56:17 The Perfect Time is Now
1:17:59 What Fills Your heart
1:21:56 It worked for me

Links
FreedasFabnificentFeet.com
Kiyoko on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/freedasfreedom2025/

I Do This For a Living is independently produced. 

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]]> Serenity Bohon Buzzsprout-19829332 Wed, 23 Sep 2026 04:00:00 -0500 5522 1 24 full false Do the Thing You Will Regret NOT Doing with Judy C. Harvey Do the Thing You Will Regret NOT Doing with Judy C. Harvey Joyful Judy C. Harvey is a retired teacher, living a real life Hallmark movie with her high school sweetheart in a small town in Missouri. Judy has been mentioned on the show many times for her college story, which began when almost all three of her children had graduated high school. Judy always wanted to be an English teacher. She loved it, and she loves retirement. She has brilliant advice for finding joy in our work and in life. Plus poetic words to live by like these: Students don’t care what you know until they know you care; I’d rather rather believe the best about someone and be wrong than believe the worst about them and be right; and a poem in the It Worked for Me section that I’ll never forget. 


Chapters
6:09 Judy in her own words

9;59 Back to school!

24:17 Growing up on the farm

27:37 English teacher dreams

30:22 English teacher reality

44:06 The joys of retirement

51:47  Judy’s Journey to Joy

1:01:29 Peace of mind takes time

1:08:42 How to enjoy your work

1:22:42 It Worked for Me


Links

Angel Wings by Judy C. Harvey (https://a.co/d/08RQuwb8)

Shawn Achor’s happiness Ted Talk (https://www.ted.com/talks/shawn_achor_the_happy_secret_to_better_work)

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]]> Joyful Judy C. Harvey is a retired teacher, living a real life Hallmark movie with her high school sweetheart in a small town in Missouri. Judy has been mentioned on the show many times for her college story, which began when almost all three of her children had graduated high school. Judy always wanted to be an English teacher. She loved it, and she loves retirement. She has brilliant advice for finding joy in our work and in life. Plus poetic words to live by like these: Students don’t care what you know until they know you care; I’d rather rather believe the best about someone and be wrong than believe the worst about them and be right; and a poem in the It Worked for Me section that I’ll never forget. 


Chapters
6:09 Judy in her own words

9;59 Back to school!

24:17 Growing up on the farm

27:37 English teacher dreams

30:22 English teacher reality

44:06 The joys of retirement

51:47  Judy’s Journey to Joy

1:01:29 Peace of mind takes time

1:08:42 How to enjoy your work

1:22:42 It Worked for Me


Links

Angel Wings by Judy C. Harvey (https://a.co/d/08RQuwb8)

Shawn Achor’s happiness Ted Talk (https://www.ted.com/talks/shawn_achor_the_happy_secret_to_better_work)

This episode is sponsored by h34contracting.com

I Do This For a Living is independently produced. 

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]]> Serenity Bohon Buzzsprout-19794942 Wed, 16 Sep 2026 04:00:00 -0500 5220 1 23 full false My Job Gives Me Music with Jesse White My Job Gives Me Music with Jesse White Please welcome Jesse White! Jesse is a musician and entertainer who is finding the day job brings him balance. Jesse has a familiar story of artistic dreams. He was determined music would one day be his job, and he worked toward that throughout high school, college, and beyond. Eventually, economic realities sent him to his network to find work that paid. Surprisingly, he found that stable income and the structure of a 9-to-5 was just what his music needed. In today's episode, he describes the dream, the reality, and the relief he's found in a job that makes more room for his music, not less.

Chapters
1:56 Let’s Talk About Work
6:24 Jesse White: Entertainer
17:05 Musician Dreams
27:01 Education: Music & Tech
29:32 The Music Dream Evolves
40:15 Your Creative Work Has Value
42:19 The Joy of Theater
1:03:47 The Job Makes Room for Music
1:24:35 Fantasy Football & Feeling Most Myself
1:32:15 It Worked for Me
1:36:17 How Work Makes Room for Art  
1:36:50 Lean on Your People

Links
Jesse's band, Bad Self Portraits: https://www.badselfportraits.com/

References
Movie: That Thing You Do (which I did indeed watch the night after we recorded this)

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I Do This For a Living is independently produced. 

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]]> Please welcome Jesse White! Jesse is a musician and entertainer who is finding the day job brings him balance. Jesse has a familiar story of artistic dreams. He was determined music would one day be his job, and he worked toward that throughout high school, college, and beyond. Eventually, economic realities sent him to his network to find work that paid. Surprisingly, he found that stable income and the structure of a 9-to-5 was just what his music needed. In today's episode, he describes the dream, the reality, and the relief he's found in a job that makes more room for his music, not less.

Chapters
1:56 Let’s Talk About Work
6:24 Jesse White: Entertainer
17:05 Musician Dreams
27:01 Education: Music & Tech
29:32 The Music Dream Evolves
40:15 Your Creative Work Has Value
42:19 The Joy of Theater
1:03:47 The Job Makes Room for Music
1:24:35 Fantasy Football & Feeling Most Myself
1:32:15 It Worked for Me
1:36:17 How Work Makes Room for Art  
1:36:50 Lean on Your People

Links
Jesse's band, Bad Self Portraits: https://www.badselfportraits.com/

References
Movie: That Thing You Do (which I did indeed watch the night after we recorded this)

This episode is sponsored by h34contracting.com

I Do This For a Living is independently produced. 

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]]> Serenity Bohon Buzzsprout-19762640 Wed, 09 Sep 2026 00:00:00 -0500 5890 1 22 full false How Will You Change the World with Serena Zorrilla Berrey How Will You Change the World with Serena Zorrilla Berrey Serena Berrey is five years post-college and in a job she LOVES because she didn't waste her time in misalignment. As an Executive Recruiter, Serena has tons of motivational advice, including starting your day right, surviving any day in the industry of your choice, and filling your cup before pouring it out. Serena has hot takes and hot tips for interviewing with recruiters, networking constantly, and always finding ways to feel you're moving forward. This episode is getting me through my own survivable but challenging work days. It's worth a listen, a relisten, and some notes!

Chapters
1:12 Serena: Obnoxious Optimist
8:41 How are you going to change the world
26:09 ADHD: Attention isn’t the problem
30:00 Don’t Stay Just Because (Hot Take 1)
49:55 Always Be Networking
57:23 Fill Your Cup First
1:03:58 Diagnosed: Type I Diabetes
1:14:25 Be Curious
1:23:20 When They Ask About Your Weakness (Hot Take 2)
1:27:12 Get Outside
1:29:07 Today is Survivable
1:38:44 The Best is Yet to Come
1:41:00 It Worked For Me

Links
Serena on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/serena-berrey/
Serena quoted Serenity’s book, The Thank You Room: https://www.serenitybohon.com/thankyouroom

This episode is sponsored by H34Contracting.com

I Do This For a Living is independently produced. 

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]]> Serena Berrey is five years post-college and in a job she LOVES because she didn't waste her time in misalignment. As an Executive Recruiter, Serena has tons of motivational advice, including starting your day right, surviving any day in the industry of your choice, and filling your cup before pouring it out. Serena has hot takes and hot tips for interviewing with recruiters, networking constantly, and always finding ways to feel you're moving forward. This episode is getting me through my own survivable but challenging work days. It's worth a listen, a relisten, and some notes!

Chapters
1:12 Serena: Obnoxious Optimist
8:41 How are you going to change the world
26:09 ADHD: Attention isn’t the problem
30:00 Don’t Stay Just Because (Hot Take 1)
49:55 Always Be Networking
57:23 Fill Your Cup First
1:03:58 Diagnosed: Type I Diabetes
1:14:25 Be Curious
1:23:20 When They Ask About Your Weakness (Hot Take 2)
1:27:12 Get Outside
1:29:07 Today is Survivable
1:38:44 The Best is Yet to Come
1:41:00 It Worked For Me

Links
Serena on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/serena-berrey/
Serena quoted Serenity’s book, The Thank You Room: https://www.serenitybohon.com/thankyouroom

This episode is sponsored by H34Contracting.com

I Do This For a Living is independently produced. 

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]]> Serenity Bohon Buzzsprout-19738931 Wed, 02 Sep 2026 00:00:00 -0500 6331 1 21 full false Ask Yourself What You Want (Your Journal Knows) with Jason Benson Ask Yourself What You Want (Your Journal Knows) with Jason Benson Please welcome Jason Benson, general contractor in Wyoming, former worship leader, and someone who never used to ask himself, "What do you want?" It's a question he learned through therapy after a series of panic attacks and a sabbatical made him realize he was headed into a very big quitting story. You know I love a quitting story. For Jason, this one felt more like Owen Wilson's line in the Loki TV series: "Burn it to the ground." (Reference mine. I have no idea if Jason watched Loki.) Jason's story is heartbreaking and inspiring, and I love that it can be simplified to the gentle question we are allowed to ask ourselves: What do you want?

Chapters
2:16 Let's talk about fame
5:53 Jason Intro: Geography and Childhood
10:25 Music Interest or Identity?
35:01 Quitting
52:53 Therapy & Learning What You Want
1:14:09 Back to school + Running a Biz
1:25:06 Telling Our Stories and Showing Up
1:41:57 It Worked for Me

Links
h34contracting.com

Books discussed
Margin: Restoring Emotional, Physical, Financial, and Time Reserves to Overloaded Lives by Richard Swenson 

The Emotionally Healthy Leader by Peter Scazzero

Music discussed
Prizefighter, Mumford & Sons (album)
Dan Fogelberg (artist)

I Do This For a Living is independently produced. 

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]]> Please welcome Jason Benson, general contractor in Wyoming, former worship leader, and someone who never used to ask himself, "What do you want?" It's a question he learned through therapy after a series of panic attacks and a sabbatical made him realize he was headed into a very big quitting story. You know I love a quitting story. For Jason, this one felt more like Owen Wilson's line in the Loki TV series: "Burn it to the ground." (Reference mine. I have no idea if Jason watched Loki.) Jason's story is heartbreaking and inspiring, and I love that it can be simplified to the gentle question we are allowed to ask ourselves: What do you want?

Chapters
2:16 Let's talk about fame
5:53 Jason Intro: Geography and Childhood
10:25 Music Interest or Identity?
35:01 Quitting
52:53 Therapy & Learning What You Want
1:14:09 Back to school + Running a Biz
1:25:06 Telling Our Stories and Showing Up
1:41:57 It Worked for Me

Links
h34contracting.com

Books discussed
Margin: Restoring Emotional, Physical, Financial, and Time Reserves to Overloaded Lives by Richard Swenson 

The Emotionally Healthy Leader by Peter Scazzero

Music discussed
Prizefighter, Mumford & Sons (album)
Dan Fogelberg (artist)

I Do This For a Living is independently produced. 

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]]> Serenity Bohon Buzzsprout-19698429 Wed, 26 Aug 2026 00:00:00 -0500 6383 1 20 full false Chasing Pura Vida (Pure Life) with Kristin Flannigan Chasing Pura Vida (Pure Life) with Kristin Flannigan Kristin Flannigan is a speech pathologist, living and working in California. It's a role that took her some time to identify. However, when she found it, she wondered if the career was made for her or if she was made for the career. Kristin loves fun and was always drawn to linguistics and to serving people. She learned the term Pura Vida on a trip to Costa Rica where she hopes to live or at least visit again one day. Pura Vida is a phrase that can mean a lot of things, and the sentiment seemed perfect for the title of this episode. Kristin followed her language interests through college but took a bit of a detour into administrative work before discovering the path to speech pathology. Her message in this episode is, "If you can be flexible, you can do whatever you want." Recently diagnosed with ADHD, Kristin is still learning about herself every day, giving the world's most healing hugs, and chasing Pura Vida. You're going to love this one.

Chapters

2:24 Who is Kristin? (And what makes the world's most healing hug)
8:19 Discovering ADHD and how to manage it
30:23 Early understanding of work
35:34 The path to speech pathology
1:13:29 Work wishes
1:17:30 If you're flexible, you can do anything you want
1:24:14 It worked for me

I Do This For a Living is independently produced. 

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]]> Kristin Flannigan is a speech pathologist, living and working in California. It's a role that took her some time to identify. However, when she found it, she wondered if the career was made for her or if she was made for the career. Kristin loves fun and was always drawn to linguistics and to serving people. She learned the term Pura Vida on a trip to Costa Rica where she hopes to live or at least visit again one day. Pura Vida is a phrase that can mean a lot of things, and the sentiment seemed perfect for the title of this episode. Kristin followed her language interests through college but took a bit of a detour into administrative work before discovering the path to speech pathology. Her message in this episode is, "If you can be flexible, you can do whatever you want." Recently diagnosed with ADHD, Kristin is still learning about herself every day, giving the world's most healing hugs, and chasing Pura Vida. You're going to love this one.

Chapters

2:24 Who is Kristin? (And what makes the world's most healing hug)
8:19 Discovering ADHD and how to manage it
30:23 Early understanding of work
35:34 The path to speech pathology
1:13:29 Work wishes
1:17:30 If you're flexible, you can do anything you want
1:24:14 It worked for me

I Do This For a Living is independently produced. 

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]]> Serenity Bohon Buzzsprout-19651293 Wed, 19 Aug 2026 00:00:00 -0500 5255 1 19 full false The Best Plan is Knowing Plans Can Change with Valerie Peavler The Best Plan is Knowing Plans Can Change with Valerie Peavler Please welcome Valerie Peavler to I Do This for a Living. Valerie has a confident recommendation for how NOT to choose a major. She is a consummate planner but learned early in her career that plans can change. Her advice is about how allowing those changes can help you grow and get you where you really want to be. Her story took her from exercise science to cardiac rehab and finally to the photography company where she works today. For a person who needs a plan, Valerie has an inspiring contentment with life exactly as it is - changes and all. Her story is relatable, comforting, and promising as she finds herself in a company unmatched for its positive work culture and intentional values. 

Chapters
6:21 Who is Valerie?
16:43 Childhood plans
20:30 How (NOT) to choose a major
26:48 Cardiac Rehab to Photography
39:39 Different work for different seasons
48:49 Work culture over following the plan
1:04:49 Getting intentional about getting together (It worked for me)

I Do This For a Living is independently produced. 

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]]> Please welcome Valerie Peavler to I Do This for a Living. Valerie has a confident recommendation for how NOT to choose a major. She is a consummate planner but learned early in her career that plans can change. Her advice is about how allowing those changes can help you grow and get you where you really want to be. Her story took her from exercise science to cardiac rehab and finally to the photography company where she works today. For a person who needs a plan, Valerie has an inspiring contentment with life exactly as it is - changes and all. Her story is relatable, comforting, and promising as she finds herself in a company unmatched for its positive work culture and intentional values. 

Chapters
6:21 Who is Valerie?
16:43 Childhood plans
20:30 How (NOT) to choose a major
26:48 Cardiac Rehab to Photography
39:39 Different work for different seasons
48:49 Work culture over following the plan
1:04:49 Getting intentional about getting together (It worked for me)

I Do This For a Living is independently produced. 

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]]> Serenity Bohon Buzzsprout-19619343 Wed, 12 Aug 2026 00:00:00 -0500 4340 1 18 full false Be Obsessive! Making Time for What Defines You with Nikki Corder Be Obsessive! Making Time for What Defines You with Nikki Corder Today's guest is Nikki Corder. In twenty years of friendship, Nikki and Serenity have had many conversations about work, life, and what they dream. A lot of the time, their conversations are about learning to cope and adjust when it feels like life is nowhere near the dream. Their career paths are similarly winding for many reasons, but Nikki has learned a lot about her strengths and what she's good at, even if nobody's paying her for it. Serenity and Nikki talk generational stereotypes, Enneagram, and pop culture. In the end, Nikki shares her obsession in an "it worked for me" that's all about making time and space in our lives for reminders that the job does not define us. 

Chapters
1:50 The kid years - wanting to be a teacher
6:56 Long-running daydream - wife and mom
16:27 Education decisions - Psychology vs. English
25:16 Wake-up call: the end of teaching
29:30 Job scrambling
40:19 Being a millennial in the workforce
44:56 Event planning (what it takes!)
51:07 Delightful obsessions
1:08:04 The endless possibilities game
1:12:00 When it's not what you dreamed but beautiful anyway
1:14:16 It Worked for Me


I Do This For a Living is independently produced. 

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]]> Today's guest is Nikki Corder. In twenty years of friendship, Nikki and Serenity have had many conversations about work, life, and what they dream. A lot of the time, their conversations are about learning to cope and adjust when it feels like life is nowhere near the dream. Their career paths are similarly winding for many reasons, but Nikki has learned a lot about her strengths and what she's good at, even if nobody's paying her for it. Serenity and Nikki talk generational stereotypes, Enneagram, and pop culture. In the end, Nikki shares her obsession in an "it worked for me" that's all about making time and space in our lives for reminders that the job does not define us. 

Chapters
1:50 The kid years - wanting to be a teacher
6:56 Long-running daydream - wife and mom
16:27 Education decisions - Psychology vs. English
25:16 Wake-up call: the end of teaching
29:30 Job scrambling
40:19 Being a millennial in the workforce
44:56 Event planning (what it takes!)
51:07 Delightful obsessions
1:08:04 The endless possibilities game
1:12:00 When it's not what you dreamed but beautiful anyway
1:14:16 It Worked for Me


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]]> Serenity Bohon Buzzsprout-19599290 Wed, 05 Aug 2026 00:00:00 -0500 4620 1 17 full false What Do You Like to Do? A Conversation with Simone Stolzoff What Do You Like to Do? A Conversation with Simone Stolzoff Simone Stolzoff is an author and journalist who explores big questions about work, meaning, and identity. A former design lead at the global innovation firm IDEO, he is the author of two bestselling books: The Good Enough Job and How To Not Know. His work has been featured in The New York Times, The Atlantic, The Wall Street Journal, The Washington Post, and on the TED stage. He lives in San Francisco with his wife and son.

Serenity has been following Simone since his first book. Many of the ideas behind I Do This for a Living were built on or enhanced by Simone's ideas about diversifying our identity beyond our careers. In this episode, she gets to ask him about the ideas and concepts that have helped her the most.

Where to find Simone
HowtoNotKnow.com or https://simonestolzoff.com/how-to-not-know

Chapters
5:02 The importance of asking, what do you like to do?
15:22 Making career decisions in a culture of abundance
20:33 Why does it feel like work is so much of our lives?
26:48 What is the good enough job?
37:23 Why work/art tension is not a problem to solve
44:38 How To Not Know
1:01:41 Choosing your burdens
1:04:47 It worked for me

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]]> Simone Stolzoff is an author and journalist who explores big questions about work, meaning, and identity. A former design lead at the global innovation firm IDEO, he is the author of two bestselling books: The Good Enough Job and How To Not Know. His work has been featured in The New York Times, The Atlantic, The Wall Street Journal, The Washington Post, and on the TED stage. He lives in San Francisco with his wife and son.

Serenity has been following Simone since his first book. Many of the ideas behind I Do This for a Living were built on or enhanced by Simone's ideas about diversifying our identity beyond our careers. In this episode, she gets to ask him about the ideas and concepts that have helped her the most.

Where to find Simone
HowtoNotKnow.com or https://simonestolzoff.com/how-to-not-know

Chapters
5:02 The importance of asking, what do you like to do?
15:22 Making career decisions in a culture of abundance
20:33 Why does it feel like work is so much of our lives?
26:48 What is the good enough job?
37:23 Why work/art tension is not a problem to solve
44:38 How To Not Know
1:01:41 Choosing your burdens
1:04:47 It worked for me

I Do This For a Living is independently produced. 

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]]> Buzzsprout-19540606 Wed, 29 Jul 2026 00:00:00 -0500 4141 1 16 full false What Can I Learn? Why I Choose and Enjoy Work with Maureen Yaconis What Can I Learn? Why I Choose and Enjoy Work with Maureen Yaconis Maureen Yaconis had a career in hospitality when COVID practically collapsed the industry. After a year or so out of work, Maureen found her way into market research. Today, she runs her own business and manages multiple income streams. Maureen has a question-everything approach to work. She loves identifying better processes and more efficient ways of working, and she does not hesitate to implement them. She is passionate about empowering women and always learning. Maureen also has an awesome wish for the next generation about choosing work they love.

02:28 From hospitality to market research
14:28 A quitting story
15:42 Not really understanding work as a child (ah, bliss)
19:16 A college story
32:06 Work archetypes and questioning everything
43:17 Work philosophy and lifelong learning
49:42 Starting a women-owned business
53:01 What is a business operations architect?
59:06 Women: Be Empowered
1:08:00 Hobby time
1:13:34 Making decisions (if it's not hell yes, it's no)
1:18:42 A wish for the next generation (do what you want!)
1:25:19 It worked for me

Maureen's business: www.unparalleledmrs.com

Mia Poppe, Esq. law firm: https://www.miapoppe.com
Coaching community: mc2lifecoaching.com

Sign up to be a guest: serenitybohon.com/guest
Newsletter: serenitybohon.substack.com

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]]> Maureen Yaconis had a career in hospitality when COVID practically collapsed the industry. After a year or so out of work, Maureen found her way into market research. Today, she runs her own business and manages multiple income streams. Maureen has a question-everything approach to work. She loves identifying better processes and more efficient ways of working, and she does not hesitate to implement them. She is passionate about empowering women and always learning. Maureen also has an awesome wish for the next generation about choosing work they love.

02:28 From hospitality to market research
14:28 A quitting story
15:42 Not really understanding work as a child (ah, bliss)
19:16 A college story
32:06 Work archetypes and questioning everything
43:17 Work philosophy and lifelong learning
49:42 Starting a women-owned business
53:01 What is a business operations architect?
59:06 Women: Be Empowered
1:08:00 Hobby time
1:13:34 Making decisions (if it's not hell yes, it's no)
1:18:42 A wish for the next generation (do what you want!)
1:25:19 It worked for me

Maureen's business: www.unparalleledmrs.com

Mia Poppe, Esq. law firm: https://www.miapoppe.com
Coaching community: mc2lifecoaching.com

Sign up to be a guest: serenitybohon.com/guest
Newsletter: serenitybohon.substack.com

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]]> Serenity Bohon Buzzsprout-19510836 Wed, 22 Jul 2026 00:00:00 -0500 5361 1 15 full false Starting a Business and What I'll Never Do Again with Ashley Rott-Nettleton Starting a Business and What I'll Never Do Again with Ashley Rott-Nettleton Meet Ashley Rott-Nettleton, Serenity's market research mentor and forever friend. Ashley leveraged a financial layoff (from a company that still desperately wanted to work with her) by starting her own biz! Now she has that client plus many others, is her own boss, and will "never go back." Ashley tells you how it's done (even when you're risk-averse!), and she and Serenity talk about work philosophy, negotiating for your worth, and never apologizing. 

Chapters
7:37 Serenity's day job (finally!) or what is market research?
9:57 Participating in market research (it's not a side hustle)
13:59 Serenity's start in market research/meeting Ashley
20:47 When the workload fluctuates
24:25 The near impossibility of saying no in client services  
28:09 Convincing experts that market research is legit
32:41  How to find remote jobs
40:46 One thing about Ashley's work that matters
45:24 Thank a business you love! Write a review
48:51 Ashley's quitting story
53:44 Salary negotiating - Ashley's story
56:20 Never again (insisting on the work-life balance you value)
1:01:04 From layoff to starting a business
1:08:51 Even the risk-averse can do it!
1:12:42 Is starting a business for you?
1:17:20 Work philosophy (do what you love vs. make enough for a life you love )
1:21:47 Work with Ashley!
1:24:32 It worked for me (a request)
1:29:12 Stop apologizing at work

Links
Sign up for Ashley's panel to get paid for your opinions: https://insightrecruit.com/join-our-panel/

Hire Ashley to recruit for you: https://insightrecruit.com/services/
Ashley on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/insightrecruit/

FlexJobs: https://www.flexjobs.com/lp/remote-jobs1 (linger on the site for a while, then hover over the X to close it, and it might offer a discount)

HireMyMom: https://www.hiremymom.com/

Serenity's sarcastic blog post about starting a business to crush your dreams: https://www.serenitybohon.com/blog/think-again

I Do This For a Living is independently produced. 

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]]> Meet Ashley Rott-Nettleton, Serenity's market research mentor and forever friend. Ashley leveraged a financial layoff (from a company that still desperately wanted to work with her) by starting her own biz! Now she has that client plus many others, is her own boss, and will "never go back." Ashley tells you how it's done (even when you're risk-averse!), and she and Serenity talk about work philosophy, negotiating for your worth, and never apologizing. 

Chapters
7:37 Serenity's day job (finally!) or what is market research?
9:57 Participating in market research (it's not a side hustle)
13:59 Serenity's start in market research/meeting Ashley
20:47 When the workload fluctuates
24:25 The near impossibility of saying no in client services  
28:09 Convincing experts that market research is legit
32:41  How to find remote jobs
40:46 One thing about Ashley's work that matters
45:24 Thank a business you love! Write a review
48:51 Ashley's quitting story
53:44 Salary negotiating - Ashley's story
56:20 Never again (insisting on the work-life balance you value)
1:01:04 From layoff to starting a business
1:08:51 Even the risk-averse can do it!
1:12:42 Is starting a business for you?
1:17:20 Work philosophy (do what you love vs. make enough for a life you love )
1:21:47 Work with Ashley!
1:24:32 It worked for me (a request)
1:29:12 Stop apologizing at work

Links
Sign up for Ashley's panel to get paid for your opinions: https://insightrecruit.com/join-our-panel/

Hire Ashley to recruit for you: https://insightrecruit.com/services/
Ashley on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/insightrecruit/

FlexJobs: https://www.flexjobs.com/lp/remote-jobs1 (linger on the site for a while, then hover over the X to close it, and it might offer a discount)

HireMyMom: https://www.hiremymom.com/

Serenity's sarcastic blog post about starting a business to crush your dreams: https://www.serenitybohon.com/blog/think-again

I Do This For a Living is independently produced. 

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]]> Buzzsprout-19473124 Wed, 15 Jul 2026 00:00:00 -0500 5676 1 14 full false Your Calling is Who You Are (Humanity and All) with Kathy Nickerson Your Calling is Who You Are (Humanity and All) with Kathy Nickerson It's The Mama Episode! Let's hear from Kathy Nickerson, mom of four (including your host, Serenity Bohon), emotional/spiritual mom to hundreds more, author, and eternal optimist. Kathy knew from a very young age that she wanted to be a writer, but it took her some time to admit it and go for it. Now, she has five books published in her "granny lit" series, a book for young readers called Jack and the Green Dragon, and a book on its way to readers soon, A Girl Called Something. Kathy and Serenity talk about childhood and how we bring things from it that we might need to learn to overcome. Kathy shares her work history and her mission during the pandemic to tell us all that it would be okay, a mission she hasn't stopped since. This episode is filled with meaningful stories and warm advice from a mama who loves the role and sees it as the calling she brings to everything she does. 

Chapters
7:53 My dad was a farmer
13:09 I always wanted to be a mom (and a writer)
21:29 Bringing the writing dream into the light
28:17 Kathy's day job years
28:17 Kathy's weekly Facebook videos
39:54 Kathy's activities and how they all connect
43:00 Spearheading Regen, a recovery program
48:46 Kathy's "granny lit" book series
57:49 The new book, "A Girl Called Something"
1:04:23 Defining success
1:09:18 Matching our strengths to our activities
1:12:11 Your calling has strengths and weaknesses
1:22:23 Getting Back What's Missing (teamwork)
1:28:40 Parenting advice from a seasoned mama
1:36:20 People are the most important ingredient (It Worked for Me)

Links
Kathy online: https://www.kathynick.com/
Kathy on FB: https://www.facebook.com/KathyNick

A mimeograph! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFIUm0DWA74  

Regeneration (find a program near you): https://www.regenerationrecovery.org/

I Do This For a Living is independently produced. 

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]]> It's The Mama Episode! Let's hear from Kathy Nickerson, mom of four (including your host, Serenity Bohon), emotional/spiritual mom to hundreds more, author, and eternal optimist. Kathy knew from a very young age that she wanted to be a writer, but it took her some time to admit it and go for it. Now, she has five books published in her "granny lit" series, a book for young readers called Jack and the Green Dragon, and a book on its way to readers soon, A Girl Called Something. Kathy and Serenity talk about childhood and how we bring things from it that we might need to learn to overcome. Kathy shares her work history and her mission during the pandemic to tell us all that it would be okay, a mission she hasn't stopped since. This episode is filled with meaningful stories and warm advice from a mama who loves the role and sees it as the calling she brings to everything she does. 

Chapters
7:53 My dad was a farmer
13:09 I always wanted to be a mom (and a writer)
21:29 Bringing the writing dream into the light
28:17 Kathy's day job years
28:17 Kathy's weekly Facebook videos
39:54 Kathy's activities and how they all connect
43:00 Spearheading Regen, a recovery program
48:46 Kathy's "granny lit" book series
57:49 The new book, "A Girl Called Something"
1:04:23 Defining success
1:09:18 Matching our strengths to our activities
1:12:11 Your calling has strengths and weaknesses
1:22:23 Getting Back What's Missing (teamwork)
1:28:40 Parenting advice from a seasoned mama
1:36:20 People are the most important ingredient (It Worked for Me)

Links
Kathy online: https://www.kathynick.com/
Kathy on FB: https://www.facebook.com/KathyNick

A mimeograph! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFIUm0DWA74  

Regeneration (find a program near you): https://www.regenerationrecovery.org/

I Do This For a Living is independently produced. 

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]]> Buzzsprout-19444490 Wed, 08 Jul 2026 00:00:00 -0500 5963 1 13 full false Designing Your Work + Values Ecosystem with Nathan Bransford Designing Your Work + Values Ecosystem with Nathan Bransford Nathan Bransford is the writer's champion, offering A to Z advice for writers about the craft of storytelling, finding an agent, navigating the publishing industry, and everything writers need to make their dreams come true. Don't leave if you're not a writer, though! This episode is for anyone who loves the stories people tell about their varied career paths. Nathan has amazing advice about determining your values and making them the pillars to build your work and life around. Everything that matters to us can exist in one integrated ecosystem that we build and refine as we go. Nathan believes in Extreme Calendaring to make this possible, i.e., if it's important to you, put it on your calendar. Nathan also has a sad/sweet childhood story about the beloved author Roald Dahl. And, along with all the talk of meaning and values, Nathan and I speak tongue in cheek about the sweet, sweet joy of money. It's all in this amazing episode with author, editor, and uncredited life coach Nathan Bransford.

Chapters
00:23 Who is Nathan Bransford
3:34 Nathan's early career as a literary agent
8:11 Writing dreams and Roald Dahl!
11:51 What is a literary agent?
13:27 Starting his website/insider tips for writers
18:21 Leaving the literary agent gig
24:42 Work Pivots - CNET, Bridgewater, and more
36:15 Riding the waves vs. charting a course
41:25 A new career driven by values and meaning
47:36 Building the ecosystem (it's all connected)
52:10 Prioritizing meaning (with values pillars)
57:21 Nathan's editing/coaching services
1:04:39 Putting creative time in the ecosystem
1:11:10 What Nathan does for fun (World Cup!)
1:15:18 Why do we write?
1:22:35 Be the protagonist/hero of your own life
1:34:32 Extreme Calendaring (It worked for me)

Links:
Nathan's website: https://nathanbransford.com/
One of my favorite posts by Nathan, How To Live Creatively: https://nathanbransford.com/blog/2023/01/how-to-live-creatively

Nathan's How To Write a Novel: https://nathanbransford.com/blog/2013/10/my-guide-to-writing-a-novel

Nathan's Jacob Wonderbar series: 

Rock Paper Tiger by Lisa Brackman: https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/209739/rock-paper-tiger-by-lisa-brackmann/

We Need Diverse Books: https://www.diversebooks.org/

Pitchfork (where Nathan finds new music): https://pitchfork.com/best/

I Do This For a Living is independently produced. 

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]]> Nathan Bransford is the writer's champion, offering A to Z advice for writers about the craft of storytelling, finding an agent, navigating the publishing industry, and everything writers need to make their dreams come true. Don't leave if you're not a writer, though! This episode is for anyone who loves the stories people tell about their varied career paths. Nathan has amazing advice about determining your values and making them the pillars to build your work and life around. Everything that matters to us can exist in one integrated ecosystem that we build and refine as we go. Nathan believes in Extreme Calendaring to make this possible, i.e., if it's important to you, put it on your calendar. Nathan also has a sad/sweet childhood story about the beloved author Roald Dahl. And, along with all the talk of meaning and values, Nathan and I speak tongue in cheek about the sweet, sweet joy of money. It's all in this amazing episode with author, editor, and uncredited life coach Nathan Bransford.

Chapters
00:23 Who is Nathan Bransford
3:34 Nathan's early career as a literary agent
8:11 Writing dreams and Roald Dahl!
11:51 What is a literary agent?
13:27 Starting his website/insider tips for writers
18:21 Leaving the literary agent gig
24:42 Work Pivots - CNET, Bridgewater, and more
36:15 Riding the waves vs. charting a course
41:25 A new career driven by values and meaning
47:36 Building the ecosystem (it's all connected)
52:10 Prioritizing meaning (with values pillars)
57:21 Nathan's editing/coaching services
1:04:39 Putting creative time in the ecosystem
1:11:10 What Nathan does for fun (World Cup!)
1:15:18 Why do we write?
1:22:35 Be the protagonist/hero of your own life
1:34:32 Extreme Calendaring (It worked for me)

Links:
Nathan's website: https://nathanbransford.com/
One of my favorite posts by Nathan, How To Live Creatively: https://nathanbransford.com/blog/2023/01/how-to-live-creatively

Nathan's How To Write a Novel: https://nathanbransford.com/blog/2013/10/my-guide-to-writing-a-novel

Nathan's Jacob Wonderbar series: 

Rock Paper Tiger by Lisa Brackman: https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/209739/rock-paper-tiger-by-lisa-brackmann/

We Need Diverse Books: https://www.diversebooks.org/

Pitchfork (where Nathan finds new music): https://pitchfork.com/best/

I Do This For a Living is independently produced. 

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]]> Serenity Bohon Buzzsprout-19421217 Wed, 01 Jul 2026 00:00:00 -0500 6241 1 12 full false Try the Side Gig; It Might Be the Calling with Lt. Joe Nickerson Try the Side Gig; It Might Be the Calling with Lt. Joe Nickerson Meet my brother, Lt. Joe Nickerson. He started in law enforcement as a side gig and discovered it was the perfect fit for his specific strengths and calling. Joe describes his first experiences in the police academy as "life-changing." Learning a new job within law enforcement became Joe's next aha moment. Now he had found not just a calling but a role comprising everything he cared about most. I loved this conversation with one of my favorite humans. His connection to his calling is inspiring. Listen for that and stay for the great advice about finding your own strengths and leveraging them.

Chapters
02:27 Early understanding of how work relates to identity
07:22 Joe’s 7-year-old self may have known
08:31 Planning a bivocational life (ministry + side gig)
11:48 Starting college
12:37 Law enforcement: the side gig
17:37 Law enforcement in rural America
20:41 Law enforcement: the calling (and how to get there)
33:06 Strengths finding: a new role in the department is a surprisingly perfect fit
35:45 Starting over in Omaha
40:44 Specializing again (negotiator training)
46:54 Naming AND aiming our strengths for success
53:56 Trusting the calling even when others doubt
1:00:11 Long-term goals, leaving a legacy, and never leaving the calling
1:06:13 Misconceptions about law enforcement
01:23:24 Feeling cohesion (what is cohesion?)
01:28:19 Come work for the Omaha PD! (the many possibilities of a job in law enforcement)
01:32:45 It worked for me

Links
Gallup strengths: https://www.gallup.com/cliftonstrengths/en/252137/home.aspx
JoinOPD.com https://www.joinopd.com/ 
Omaha 360: https://empoweromaha.com/violence-prevention-omaha-360/

Other references
Emotional Survival for Law Enforcement by Kevin M Gilmartin

I Do This For a Living is independently produced. 

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]]> Meet my brother, Lt. Joe Nickerson. He started in law enforcement as a side gig and discovered it was the perfect fit for his specific strengths and calling. Joe describes his first experiences in the police academy as "life-changing." Learning a new job within law enforcement became Joe's next aha moment. Now he had found not just a calling but a role comprising everything he cared about most. I loved this conversation with one of my favorite humans. His connection to his calling is inspiring. Listen for that and stay for the great advice about finding your own strengths and leveraging them.

Chapters
02:27 Early understanding of how work relates to identity
07:22 Joe’s 7-year-old self may have known
08:31 Planning a bivocational life (ministry + side gig)
11:48 Starting college
12:37 Law enforcement: the side gig
17:37 Law enforcement in rural America
20:41 Law enforcement: the calling (and how to get there)
33:06 Strengths finding: a new role in the department is a surprisingly perfect fit
35:45 Starting over in Omaha
40:44 Specializing again (negotiator training)
46:54 Naming AND aiming our strengths for success
53:56 Trusting the calling even when others doubt
1:00:11 Long-term goals, leaving a legacy, and never leaving the calling
1:06:13 Misconceptions about law enforcement
01:23:24 Feeling cohesion (what is cohesion?)
01:28:19 Come work for the Omaha PD! (the many possibilities of a job in law enforcement)
01:32:45 It worked for me

Links
Gallup strengths: https://www.gallup.com/cliftonstrengths/en/252137/home.aspx
JoinOPD.com https://www.joinopd.com/ 
Omaha 360: https://empoweromaha.com/violence-prevention-omaha-360/

Other references
Emotional Survival for Law Enforcement by Kevin M Gilmartin

I Do This For a Living is independently produced. 

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]]> Serenity Bohon Buzzsprout-19339569 Wed, 24 Jun 2026 00:00:00 -0500 6218 1 11 full false Get Interested, Change Your Life with Dennis Trinkle Get Interested, Change Your Life with Dennis Trinkle Dennis Trinkle was the son of a pastor and on a similar track until a teaching job along the way inspired him to go back to school. He liked teaching but knew he would have better success with more education. When fulfilling a liberal arts requirement led him to a philosophy class, he discovered an interest that would shape his next move and his continued education for years. There are more pivots in Dennis's story--all sparked by pursuing the paths he found interesting. Dennis is a longtime friend, thankfully always willing to discuss big ideas with me. I couldn't wait to hear his work story and learn more about how his current job fits into it.

Chapters
05:15 Indiana Jones (early work thoughts) 
08:30 Being a pastor's kid and wanting to be like Dad
15:31 Bible College and church work
20:22 Pivoting! Enjoys teaching, goes back to college
24:14 Choosing a major from the life of J.R.R. Tolkien
26:35 Philosophy is interesting, adding a major!
31:26 After college...more college (pursuing a doctorate)
35:56 New career track ("This sounds interesting")
40:45 Let's talk Liberal Arts
48:52 What is a Senior Quality Analyst?
56:19 How it matters
01:02:16 Taking things apart, including thoughts and Ideas
01:06:43 Big ideas, social media, and understanding each other
01:14:53 Talking to kids about work and education choices
01:21:16 It worked for me (learning HOW you like to work)

Links
Dennis on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dennis-trinkle/
The Mythmakers: The Remarkable Fellowship of C.S. Lewis and J.R.R. Tolkien by John Hendrix: https://www.johnhendrix.com/the-mythmakers 

I Do This For a Living is independently produced. 

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]]> Dennis Trinkle was the son of a pastor and on a similar track until a teaching job along the way inspired him to go back to school. He liked teaching but knew he would have better success with more education. When fulfilling a liberal arts requirement led him to a philosophy class, he discovered an interest that would shape his next move and his continued education for years. There are more pivots in Dennis's story--all sparked by pursuing the paths he found interesting. Dennis is a longtime friend, thankfully always willing to discuss big ideas with me. I couldn't wait to hear his work story and learn more about how his current job fits into it.

Chapters
05:15 Indiana Jones (early work thoughts) 
08:30 Being a pastor's kid and wanting to be like Dad
15:31 Bible College and church work
20:22 Pivoting! Enjoys teaching, goes back to college
24:14 Choosing a major from the life of J.R.R. Tolkien
26:35 Philosophy is interesting, adding a major!
31:26 After college...more college (pursuing a doctorate)
35:56 New career track ("This sounds interesting")
40:45 Let's talk Liberal Arts
48:52 What is a Senior Quality Analyst?
56:19 How it matters
01:02:16 Taking things apart, including thoughts and Ideas
01:06:43 Big ideas, social media, and understanding each other
01:14:53 Talking to kids about work and education choices
01:21:16 It worked for me (learning HOW you like to work)

Links
Dennis on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dennis-trinkle/
The Mythmakers: The Remarkable Fellowship of C.S. Lewis and J.R.R. Tolkien by John Hendrix: https://www.johnhendrix.com/the-mythmakers 

I Do This For a Living is independently produced. 

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]]> Buzzsprout-19327055 Wed, 17 Jun 2026 00:00:00 -0500 5159 1 10 full false You Bring the Meaning with Carrie Gaines You Bring the Meaning with Carrie Gaines Carrie Gaines and I have a shared work experience but very different relationships to work in general. We worked together in the grant-seeking and management department of a health professions university - a workplace that set the bar for both us when it comes to professional and supportive work environments. Carrie transitioned from her grants management role after getting new assignments at the University that piqued her interest even more. This is the story of her transition, the supportive response she received from the workplace she was leaving, and the internal work she finds most important of all. Carrie has been an inspirational voice in my work life - she's a soundbite a minute! I can't wait for you to meet her.

Chapters

02:56 Carrie's backstory, early understanding of work
05:30 Kid dreams and first experience with college
08:13 Finding what you like at work by doing it
10:08 Our shared experience in a positive workplace
15:34 How that workplace reacted to her new interests
18:01 Personality in the workplace ("I only extrovert for money")
25:50 Carrie leans into new interests and a work transition
30:34 Internal work first ("Wherever you go, there you are")
36:03 Personal responsibility in work experiences
44:50 Carrie's transition, a brand new track
52:33 If you want to work in compliance...
55:46 The importance of internal work (reprise)
01:00 Finding Meaning in Work
01:09:42 Talking to kids about work
01:12:00 Everything is going to be okay
01:15:00 It worked for me
01:16:44 We all have more in common than we think

Links

Carrie on LinkedIn
We took our Myers-Briggs assessment at 16 Personalities


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]]> Carrie Gaines and I have a shared work experience but very different relationships to work in general. We worked together in the grant-seeking and management department of a health professions university - a workplace that set the bar for both us when it comes to professional and supportive work environments. Carrie transitioned from her grants management role after getting new assignments at the University that piqued her interest even more. This is the story of her transition, the supportive response she received from the workplace she was leaving, and the internal work she finds most important of all. Carrie has been an inspirational voice in my work life - she's a soundbite a minute! I can't wait for you to meet her.

Chapters

02:56 Carrie's backstory, early understanding of work
05:30 Kid dreams and first experience with college
08:13 Finding what you like at work by doing it
10:08 Our shared experience in a positive workplace
15:34 How that workplace reacted to her new interests
18:01 Personality in the workplace ("I only extrovert for money")
25:50 Carrie leans into new interests and a work transition
30:34 Internal work first ("Wherever you go, there you are")
36:03 Personal responsibility in work experiences
44:50 Carrie's transition, a brand new track
52:33 If you want to work in compliance...
55:46 The importance of internal work (reprise)
01:00 Finding Meaning in Work
01:09:42 Talking to kids about work
01:12:00 Everything is going to be okay
01:15:00 It worked for me
01:16:44 We all have more in common than we think

Links

Carrie on LinkedIn
We took our Myers-Briggs assessment at 16 Personalities


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]]> Buzzsprout-19307252 Wed, 10 Jun 2026 00:00:00 -0500 4797 1 9 full false When Knowing Yourself Means Quitting the Dream Job with Charity Long When Knowing Yourself Means Quitting the Dream Job with Charity Long It's another sister episode! Today, Serenity chats with her younger sister, Charity, "a singer and a mom." Charity had her dream job, a paid worship pastor at her church. She has a lot of insight about what it really means to have a job in ministry/nonprofit. When her leaders took the team through the Working Genius framework to discover their work personalities, Charity realized why the administrative parts of being an on-staff worship paster had been so challenging for her. There came a point when she determined the right move would be letting go of the job that looked so perfect for her on paper. This is her story! Charity also talks about homeschooling, creative dreams, and making a big family adventure possible.

Chapters

2:56 I want to be a singer and a mom

7:36 First jobs

9:19 From volunteering to a staff position in ministry

12:33 How ministry/nonprofit is unique from other jobs

20:01 Artist questions - is there more I could do, did I miss my break?

23:17 Quitting the dream job

30:16 Leveraging cosmic insignificance in decision-making

39:20 The Working Genius framework and realizing you’re in the wrong job

48:09 The difficulty of untangling your identity from your title

1:00:03 What it takes to homeschool

1:07:45 Taking the whole fam to Costa Rica for 10 weeks!

1:12:02 It Worked for Me


Links

Charity on Apple Music

Charity in her role as worship leader

Parenting is for Losers 

Working Genius


Charity and her husband, Ryan, sing an original song about NOT telling their younger selves how great it’s going to be: Don’t Tell Them Anything


Also discussed: 

Essentialism: The Disciplined Pursuit of Less by Greg McKeown 

Four Thousand Weeks: Time Management for Mortals by Oliver Burkeman 


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]]> It's another sister episode! Today, Serenity chats with her younger sister, Charity, "a singer and a mom." Charity had her dream job, a paid worship pastor at her church. She has a lot of insight about what it really means to have a job in ministry/nonprofit. When her leaders took the team through the Working Genius framework to discover their work personalities, Charity realized why the administrative parts of being an on-staff worship paster had been so challenging for her. There came a point when she determined the right move would be letting go of the job that looked so perfect for her on paper. This is her story! Charity also talks about homeschooling, creative dreams, and making a big family adventure possible.

Chapters

2:56 I want to be a singer and a mom

7:36 First jobs

9:19 From volunteering to a staff position in ministry

12:33 How ministry/nonprofit is unique from other jobs

20:01 Artist questions - is there more I could do, did I miss my break?

23:17 Quitting the dream job

30:16 Leveraging cosmic insignificance in decision-making

39:20 The Working Genius framework and realizing you’re in the wrong job

48:09 The difficulty of untangling your identity from your title

1:00:03 What it takes to homeschool

1:07:45 Taking the whole fam to Costa Rica for 10 weeks!

1:12:02 It Worked for Me


Links

Charity on Apple Music

Charity in her role as worship leader

Parenting is for Losers 

Working Genius


Charity and her husband, Ryan, sing an original song about NOT telling their younger selves how great it’s going to be: Don’t Tell Them Anything


Also discussed: 

Essentialism: The Disciplined Pursuit of Less by Greg McKeown 

Four Thousand Weeks: Time Management for Mortals by Oliver Burkeman 


I Do This For a Living is independently produced. 

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]]> Serenity Bohon Buzzsprout-19165866 Wed, 03 Jun 2026 00:00:00 -0500 4442 1 8 full false Follow Your Dream (The Kids Will Be Okay) with Dr. Deana Berrey Follow Your Dream (The Kids Will Be Okay) with Dr. Deana Berrey Deana Berrey was nine years into teaching when she looked for a pivot and found medical school. Today, she is Dr. Deana Berrey, an anesthesiologist who loves her job and has inspiring ideas for anyone considering a tough road toward a new dream. Dr. Berrey's episode addresses mom guilt, quality over quantity when it comes to the time we have for what matters, and walking through life's open doors when they present themselves. Her full, delightful life includes three grown daughters, reading all genres, and playing the cello. It's a beautiful life and an inspiring story.

2:55 Astronauts and Rockstars

6:23 Deciding to teach

8:29 New dream: Medical school!

14:47 How does it happen? (Looking for open doors)

17:56 The kids will be okay

19:48 Choosing anesthesiology

34:37 Advice for med school (and life!)

48:19 What do you like to do?

50:42 Making the most of each season (then moving on!)

57:53 Gratitude for supportive friends & fam

58:20 The kids will be okay (reprise)

1:00:13 It worked for me

Deana's Book Rec: Theo of Golden by Allen Levi

(S1E7)

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]]> Deana Berrey was nine years into teaching when she looked for a pivot and found medical school. Today, she is Dr. Deana Berrey, an anesthesiologist who loves her job and has inspiring ideas for anyone considering a tough road toward a new dream. Dr. Berrey's episode addresses mom guilt, quality over quantity when it comes to the time we have for what matters, and walking through life's open doors when they present themselves. Her full, delightful life includes three grown daughters, reading all genres, and playing the cello. It's a beautiful life and an inspiring story.

2:55 Astronauts and Rockstars

6:23 Deciding to teach

8:29 New dream: Medical school!

14:47 How does it happen? (Looking for open doors)

17:56 The kids will be okay

19:48 Choosing anesthesiology

34:37 Advice for med school (and life!)

48:19 What do you like to do?

50:42 Making the most of each season (then moving on!)

57:53 Gratitude for supportive friends & fam

58:20 The kids will be okay (reprise)

1:00:13 It worked for me

Deana's Book Rec: Theo of Golden by Allen Levi

(S1E7)

I Do This For a Living is independently produced. 

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]]> Serenity Bohon Buzzsprout-19179652 Wed, 27 May 2026 00:00:00 -0500 3858 1 7 full false Know Who You Are, Find Adjacencies, and Always Be a Beginner with Melissa Cassera Know Who You Are, Find Adjacencies, and Always Be a Beginner with Melissa Cassera Serenity interviews Melissa Cassera, a screenwriter, author, and publicity strategist, who introduces herself as a girl who has lots of obsessions. Melissa wants us all to celebrate something every single day, specifically something we accomplished. She offers advice about knowing what you want to do and applying it at a high level in many different ways, describing how she is a storyteller, which plays out in her publicity work, her screenwriting, and her books. Melissa's final advice is to put ourselves in positions to lose, or to be a beginner, because it will make us unflappable in the face of any rejection. Melissa's conversation is packed with advice for learning to validate ourselves, trust our gut, and discover who we are outside of any specific type of work. 

Chapters

2:08 Melissa describes herself as a storyteller, which plays out in many ways

5:10 How Melissa's work history mattered when she started screenwriting

5:58 Knowing what you want to do and finding adjacencies

10:00 Celebrate something. Every Day.

14:07 Our wish: work optional

21:11 Melissa starts a business and returns to acting to help fund it

27:19 From the casting chair, Melissa tells us all: It is not personal

29:40 Melissa's quitting story: leaving pharmaceuticals to start a business

34:35 Getting free of the need for external validation

42:24 When to question whether you've tied your identity to the wrong thing

50:42 What you accomplish is good enough and it absolutely counts

55:28 Melissa's podcast about having multiple income streams

1:02:27 It Worked For Me: Put yourself in a position to lose and always be a beginner

Links

Melissa Cassera (website)

Drip Trickle Flow Flood (Melissa's podcast)

Other things we reference in this episode: Work Optional, a book by Tanja Hester

I Do This For a Living is independently produced. 

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]]> Serenity interviews Melissa Cassera, a screenwriter, author, and publicity strategist, who introduces herself as a girl who has lots of obsessions. Melissa wants us all to celebrate something every single day, specifically something we accomplished. She offers advice about knowing what you want to do and applying it at a high level in many different ways, describing how she is a storyteller, which plays out in her publicity work, her screenwriting, and her books. Melissa's final advice is to put ourselves in positions to lose, or to be a beginner, because it will make us unflappable in the face of any rejection. Melissa's conversation is packed with advice for learning to validate ourselves, trust our gut, and discover who we are outside of any specific type of work. 

Chapters

2:08 Melissa describes herself as a storyteller, which plays out in many ways

5:10 How Melissa's work history mattered when she started screenwriting

5:58 Knowing what you want to do and finding adjacencies

10:00 Celebrate something. Every Day.

14:07 Our wish: work optional

21:11 Melissa starts a business and returns to acting to help fund it

27:19 From the casting chair, Melissa tells us all: It is not personal

29:40 Melissa's quitting story: leaving pharmaceuticals to start a business

34:35 Getting free of the need for external validation

42:24 When to question whether you've tied your identity to the wrong thing

50:42 What you accomplish is good enough and it absolutely counts

55:28 Melissa's podcast about having multiple income streams

1:02:27 It Worked For Me: Put yourself in a position to lose and always be a beginner

Links

Melissa Cassera (website)

Drip Trickle Flow Flood (Melissa's podcast)

Other things we reference in this episode: Work Optional, a book by Tanja Hester

I Do This For a Living is independently produced. 

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]]> Serenity Bohon Buzzsprout-19114278 Wed, 20 May 2026 00:00:00 -0500 4075 1 6 full false A Little Romantic, a Little Heroic, and All the Hats with Josh Smith A Little Romantic, a Little Heroic, and All the Hats with Josh Smith Meet Josh Smith. He loved stories of knights as a kid (a little romantic and a little heroic), and he makes sure his life today is about serving others in the same way. He does this wearing many hats, including IT manager at a drug and alcohol recovery center, husband and dad, youth pastor, gamer, and writer. He also cooks, plays the bass, and loves to travel. Josh has a dynamic friend group that writes together when they're not playing Dungeons & Dragons or posting their adventures online. Josh is an inspiration - he fills his days with all the things he loves and is driven by a purpose he has believed in since he was young.

Chapters

4:19 Childhood Dreams 

13:03 Journey to IT

22:37 A typical day in all Josh's hats

25:00 Josh's bigger picture: IT for a drug and alcohol recovery center

30:58 Do we actually *want* work to be challenging?

34:18 Workplace flexibility

36:09 What do you like to do? (travel! video games! reading! writing!)

40:22 Minecraft on YouTube

42:29 Josh finds his tribe (writing together nd playing D&D!)

51:45 How authors are using Kickstarter for presales

57:03 AI and creativity

58:24 Same as ever: the tough thing about being creative is making the time

1:01:44 Gifting vs. calling vs. doing good things

1:07:44 It Worked for Me

Links

Josh on YouTube: @mrdiscoman

Eon City Burnout (by Josh and other authors)

CompTIA for A+ and other IT certifications

Realm Makers - https://www.realmmakers.com/

Josh's writer's group:

Other fun things referenced: Star Wars Legion

I Do This For a Living is independently produced. 

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]]> Meet Josh Smith. He loved stories of knights as a kid (a little romantic and a little heroic), and he makes sure his life today is about serving others in the same way. He does this wearing many hats, including IT manager at a drug and alcohol recovery center, husband and dad, youth pastor, gamer, and writer. He also cooks, plays the bass, and loves to travel. Josh has a dynamic friend group that writes together when they're not playing Dungeons & Dragons or posting their adventures online. Josh is an inspiration - he fills his days with all the things he loves and is driven by a purpose he has believed in since he was young.

Chapters

4:19 Childhood Dreams 

13:03 Journey to IT

22:37 A typical day in all Josh's hats

25:00 Josh's bigger picture: IT for a drug and alcohol recovery center

30:58 Do we actually *want* work to be challenging?

34:18 Workplace flexibility

36:09 What do you like to do? (travel! video games! reading! writing!)

40:22 Minecraft on YouTube

42:29 Josh finds his tribe (writing together nd playing D&D!)

51:45 How authors are using Kickstarter for presales

57:03 AI and creativity

58:24 Same as ever: the tough thing about being creative is making the time

1:01:44 Gifting vs. calling vs. doing good things

1:07:44 It Worked for Me

Links

Josh on YouTube: @mrdiscoman

Eon City Burnout (by Josh and other authors)

CompTIA for A+ and other IT certifications

Realm Makers - https://www.realmmakers.com/

Josh's writer's group:

Other fun things referenced: Star Wars Legion

I Do This For a Living is independently produced. 

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]]> Buzzsprout-19113831 Wed, 13 May 2026 00:00:00 -0500 4206 1 5 full false The Skills You Learn in Any Job Could Get You the Work You'll Love with Felicity White The Skills You Learn in Any Job Could Get You the Work You'll Love with Felicity White Today's guest is Serenity's sister, Felicity White, and their voices may sound nearly identical, but their work experience is a study in contrasts. Felicity White has moved intentionally toward a job in her dream industry, and she flat-out loves it. Listen to see how she got there, if she finds even one small thing to dislike about it, and what she dreams for the future. Felicity teaches exploratory studies for a living, so her insights are limitless when it comes to strength-finding and career choices. Tucked into the career inspiration, Felicity also teaches us the beautiful lesson, "The only way out is through." 

Chapters

3:46 What Felicity does for a living

5:08 Moving from student to teacher and a job Felicity loves

10:59 A surprising job skill makes the difference

18:24 What is a para?

21:23 Days in the life of a community college professor

23:23 One thing that matters

28:24 Defining moments

29:05 The only way out is through

35:39 Felicity's favorite conversation topic

42:00 Smart Girl Syndrome vs. Growth Mindset

44:58 The only way out is through (reprise)

50:12 Should everyone go to college for a 4-year degree?

1:00:40 Felicity finally finds a thing she doesn't like at work! (it's about AI)

1:03:01 It worked for me

Links

Falling Upward by Richard Rohr

Holy Hurt by Hilary McBride

Postscript Press in Nebraska (they make happy pills!): https://www.instagram.com/postscript.press

The Holland Code (Felicity recommends choosing "Match My Interests" and taking the 30-question quiz)

CliftonStrengths

Love + Work by Marcus Buckingham

I Do This for a Living is hosted by Serenity Bohon, a writer with a day job, a sarcoma survivor, and endlessly fascinated by what we do for a living and what we do to feel alive.

I Do This For a Living is independently produced. 

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]]> Today's guest is Serenity's sister, Felicity White, and their voices may sound nearly identical, but their work experience is a study in contrasts. Felicity White has moved intentionally toward a job in her dream industry, and she flat-out loves it. Listen to see how she got there, if she finds even one small thing to dislike about it, and what she dreams for the future. Felicity teaches exploratory studies for a living, so her insights are limitless when it comes to strength-finding and career choices. Tucked into the career inspiration, Felicity also teaches us the beautiful lesson, "The only way out is through." 

Chapters

3:46 What Felicity does for a living

5:08 Moving from student to teacher and a job Felicity loves

10:59 A surprising job skill makes the difference

18:24 What is a para?

21:23 Days in the life of a community college professor

23:23 One thing that matters

28:24 Defining moments

29:05 The only way out is through

35:39 Felicity's favorite conversation topic

42:00 Smart Girl Syndrome vs. Growth Mindset

44:58 The only way out is through (reprise)

50:12 Should everyone go to college for a 4-year degree?

1:00:40 Felicity finally finds a thing she doesn't like at work! (it's about AI)

1:03:01 It worked for me

Links

Falling Upward by Richard Rohr

Holy Hurt by Hilary McBride

Postscript Press in Nebraska (they make happy pills!): https://www.instagram.com/postscript.press

The Holland Code (Felicity recommends choosing "Match My Interests" and taking the 30-question quiz)

CliftonStrengths

Love + Work by Marcus Buckingham

I Do This for a Living is hosted by Serenity Bohon, a writer with a day job, a sarcoma survivor, and endlessly fascinated by what we do for a living and what we do to feel alive.

I Do This For a Living is independently produced. 

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]]> Buzzsprout-19069278 Wed, 06 May 2026 00:00:00 -0500 3951 1 4 full false Read Widely, Be a Human Sponge, and Embrace the Seasons with Caroline Starr Rose Read Widely, Be a Human Sponge, and Embrace the Seasons with Caroline Starr Rose Meet Caroline Starr Rose, a children's author and prolific reader who believes we should all be lifelong learners and embrace a wide variety of genres when we read. Serenity and Caroline met online over their shared love for the book Anne of Green Gables and its author, L.M. Montgomery. In today's episode, they talk about the real work of being a published author and Caroline's passion for honoring the child experience. They also get very nerdy about L.M. Montgomery's life and journals.

Chapters

4:11 Caroline's journey to becoming a children's book author

6:06 What it takes

13:51 What's involved in the writer life (oy, the revisions!)

24:15 Other things Caroline wanted to be

29:15 What's next for Caroline

37:08 Let's talk L.M. Montgomery, author of Anne of Green Gables

55:54 Where to start with Caroline's books

57:30 It Worked for Me

Links

Find Caroline online: carolinestarrrose.com

CarrotTop Paper Shop on Etsy: https://www.etsy.com/shop/CarrotTopPaperShop 

All things L.M. Montgomery: https://lmmontgomery.ca/about/l-m-montgomery/

Serenity's website, which used to be called Serenity Now: serenitybohon.com

Other mentions: The Guernsey Literary and Potato Peel Pie Society (book); Gretchen Rubin and her podcast Happier; Anne Bogel from ModernMrsDarcy.com and the What Should I Read Next podcast; Austin Kleon; The Life and Works of L.M. Montgomery with Dr. Kate Scarth, Chair of L. M. Montgomery Studies at UPEI (on Audible); Project Hail Mary (book by Andy Weir).

L.M. Montgomery quote in Caroline's frame and on Serenity's mug in their respective offices: "The work for which we are fitted—which we feel we are sent into the world to do—what a blessing it is and what fullness of joy it holds."

I Do This For a Living is independently produced. 

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]]> Meet Caroline Starr Rose, a children's author and prolific reader who believes we should all be lifelong learners and embrace a wide variety of genres when we read. Serenity and Caroline met online over their shared love for the book Anne of Green Gables and its author, L.M. Montgomery. In today's episode, they talk about the real work of being a published author and Caroline's passion for honoring the child experience. They also get very nerdy about L.M. Montgomery's life and journals.

Chapters

4:11 Caroline's journey to becoming a children's book author

6:06 What it takes

13:51 What's involved in the writer life (oy, the revisions!)

24:15 Other things Caroline wanted to be

29:15 What's next for Caroline

37:08 Let's talk L.M. Montgomery, author of Anne of Green Gables

55:54 Where to start with Caroline's books

57:30 It Worked for Me

Links

Find Caroline online: carolinestarrrose.com

CarrotTop Paper Shop on Etsy: https://www.etsy.com/shop/CarrotTopPaperShop 

All things L.M. Montgomery: https://lmmontgomery.ca/about/l-m-montgomery/

Serenity's website, which used to be called Serenity Now: serenitybohon.com

Other mentions: The Guernsey Literary and Potato Peel Pie Society (book); Gretchen Rubin and her podcast Happier; Anne Bogel from ModernMrsDarcy.com and the What Should I Read Next podcast; Austin Kleon; The Life and Works of L.M. Montgomery with Dr. Kate Scarth, Chair of L. M. Montgomery Studies at UPEI (on Audible); Project Hail Mary (book by Andy Weir).

L.M. Montgomery quote in Caroline's frame and on Serenity's mug in their respective offices: "The work for which we are fitted—which we feel we are sent into the world to do—what a blessing it is and what fullness of joy it holds."

I Do This For a Living is independently produced. 

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]]> Buzzsprout-19034345 Wed, 29 Apr 2026 00:00:00 -0500 3687 1 3 full false Why Your Calling Might Not Be About a Job with Mike Bohon Why Your Calling Might Not Be About a Job with Mike Bohon In today's episode, Serenity's guest is her fifth-grade crush (now husband), Mike Bohon. (She calls him Michael.) Mike describes his job as a risk consultant working mainly in the transportation industry. Mike finds meaning in his work, which he explains, but he defines his calling as something beyond the job. In this episode, Mike and Serenity talk work, parenting, jobs versus careers, finding meaning at work, and work-life harmony. 

Find Mike on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mike-bohon-cds-85499b62/


I Do This For a Living is independently produced. 

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]]> In today's episode, Serenity's guest is her fifth-grade crush (now husband), Mike Bohon. (She calls him Michael.) Mike describes his job as a risk consultant working mainly in the transportation industry. Mike finds meaning in his work, which he explains, but he defines his calling as something beyond the job. In this episode, Mike and Serenity talk work, parenting, jobs versus careers, finding meaning at work, and work-life harmony. 

Find Mike on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mike-bohon-cds-85499b62/


I Do This For a Living is independently produced. 

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]]> Serenity Bohon Buzzsprout-19032500 Wed, 22 Apr 2026 00:00:00 -0500 2510 1 2 full false Introducing I Do This for a Living Introducing I Do This for a Living Welcome to I Do this for a Living, the show that questions everything about work culture and asks how we can spend as much time and energy on the things that matter as we do on the things that pay. 

I'm your host, Serenity Bohon, a writer, day jobbist, and sarcoma survivor. After decades in the American workforce, I have a lot of questions about how we view work, what we do there, and how we find meaning in it or in the lives our work supports.

In the intro episode, I let the listener know what they can expect and list the whys behind the podcast and what it's about, including:

  1. Aliveness
  2. Work
  3. Work culture
  4. What we do on purpose


Resources:

Serenity Bohon on Instagram

The Thank You Room by Serenity Bohon

I Do This For a Living is independently produced. 

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]]> Welcome to I Do this for a Living, the show that questions everything about work culture and asks how we can spend as much time and energy on the things that matter as we do on the things that pay. 

I'm your host, Serenity Bohon, a writer, day jobbist, and sarcoma survivor. After decades in the American workforce, I have a lot of questions about how we view work, what we do there, and how we find meaning in it or in the lives our work supports.

In the intro episode, I let the listener know what they can expect and list the whys behind the podcast and what it's about, including:

  1. Aliveness
  2. Work
  3. Work culture
  4. What we do on purpose


Resources:

Serenity Bohon on Instagram

The Thank You Room by Serenity Bohon

I Do This For a Living is independently produced. 

serenitybohon.substack.com

]]> Serenity Bohon Buzzsprout-18999179 Mon, 13 Apr 2026 14:00:00 -0500 566 1 1 full false