Where is remote viewing headed next?

Traci talks with Luciano Arruda, President of the International Remote Viewing Association (IRVA), about the evolution of remote viewing—from its Stargate-era roots to today’s growing civilian community. Luciano also previews some of the speakers and topics to be featured at the upcoming October 2026 conference in Dayton, Ohio (link below).

Topics covered:

- Remote viewing + consciousness), ESP/parapsychology, and precognition  

- Controlled Remote Viewing (CRV) and other related modalities 

- Common challenges like Analytical Overlay (AOL) and burnout  

- IRVA’s priorities: education access, research partnerships, professional pathways, and global expansion  

- Where AI may support training and analysis (with humans in the loop) 

- Traci’s brief survey about barriers to remote viewing (and an upcoming free meditation to enhance remote viewing sessions)

- IRVA collaborations and connections with IONS, IANDS, the Parapsychological Association, the Applied Precognition Project, the Society for Scientific Exploration, and more  

To learn more about this year’s IRVA conference: https://www.irva.org/irva-conference

Take Traci’s brief survey on remote viewing and learn more about how to access a free meditation to enhance your sessions: https://forms.gle/E98ueM2QyNcs3E4Z6

For more on the Curious Explorers Podcast, Traci Stein and Kathy Kelly: https://curious-explorers.com/

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Historian Kathy Kelly shares the story of a hauntingly ordinary artifact: a camera-warning sign from Aokigahara, Japan’s “Sea of Trees” (often called the “Suicide Forest”). After a U.S. Marine stationed in Japan encountered the forest’s tragic reality, he carried the sign home and kept it for years—unable to throw it away, until he finally entrusted it to the Paranormal Museum.

Trigger warning: This episode includes discussion of suicide. In recognition of National Suicide Prevention Awareness Month (September), we’re also including support resources below.

Support Resources

• International Association for Suicide Prevention (IASP): https://www.iasp.info/suicidalthoughts/
• 988 Suicide & Crisis Lifeline (U.S.): https://988lifeline.org/

Resources consulted for this episode:

1. Takahashi, Yoshitomo. “Aokigahara-jukai: Suicide and Amnesia in Mt. Fuji’s Black Forest.” Suicide and Life-Threatening Behavior 18, no. 2 (1988): 164–175. https://doi.org/10.1111/j.1943-278X.1988.tb00150.x. (PubMed)
2. Chang, Kathryn Yalan. “‘A Perfect Place to Die’: Thinking the EcoGothic, Darkness, and the Dark Sweet in Gus Van Sant’s The Sea of Trees.” SARE: Southeast Asian Review of English 59, no. 1 (2022): 88–109. https://doi.org/10.22452/sare.vol59no1.7. (Southeast Asian Review of English)
3. Hart, M. “The ‘Suicide Forest’: Aokigahara, Japan.” In 50 Dark Destinations: Crime and Contemporary Tourism, edited by A. Lynes, C. Kelly, and J. Treadwell, 235–244. Bristol: Policy Press, 2023. https://doi.org/10.56687/9781447362210-042.
4. Cather, Kirsten. Scripting Suicide in Japan. Oakland: University of California Press, 2024. See especially Chapter 4, “Aokigahara Jukai, Sea of Trees,” pp. 87–108. https://doi.org/10.2307/jj.18799921. (JSTOR)
5. Keefe, Alexa. “An Ethereal Forest Where Japanese Commit Suicide.” Photographs by Tomasz Lazar. National Geographic, February 23, 2017. National Geographic article (National Geographic)
6. The Sea of Trees. Directed by Gus Van Sant. Performances by Matthew McConaughey, Ken Watanabe, and Naomi Watts. A24/Roadside Attractions, 2015.
7. The Forest. Directed by Jason Zada. Performance by Natalie Dormer. Gramercy Pictures, 2016.

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Is there any way to convince Traci that Bigfoot is real? In this minisode, master remote viewer Lori Williams reveals what it was like to view Bigfoot as a blind target for the Coast to Coast AM radio show. Lori shares all the details about this esoteric target – from tapping into the smells (!), sightings, habits, and transdimensional nature of this cryptid. Lori also talks about what it was like to connect with the consciousness of Bigfoot, and shares what they think of humans, as well as the uncanny and supernatural events that unfolded after tapping into this most famous cryptid.

Catch the full interview with Lori Williams on Apple podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/lori-williams-on-remote-viewing-bigfoot-the-mysteries/id1756564535?i=1000722814433

Or watch the full episode on YouTube: https://youtu.be/8AQj4myb5I0?si=DifDuOcXPjyzNuO1

For more information on Lori Williams, her books, courses, free masterclass, media and upcoming events, visit:

https://intuitivespecialists.com/

For more on the Curious Explorers,  visit: https://curious-explorers.com/

For more on Traci Stein, her other podcast, her intuition development course, meditations and more, visit: https://www.drtracistein.com/

For more on Kathy Kelly and the Paranormal Museum in Asbury Park, NJ, visit: https://paranormalbooksnj.com/

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Psychic medium and sacred-site guide Lauren Rainbow joins Traci for a wide-ranging conversation on spirit communication, Akashic Records, and why certain places on Earth feel *alive* with energy. Lauren shares her surprising path from news reporter to public medium, what it was like living in a retired funeral home, how 9/11 accelerated her spiritual awakening, and how to ground and protect your energy when working with heavy frequencies. Plus: ethics in mediumship, unforgettable stories, and upcoming sacred journeys to Mexico, Egypt, and India with Cindy Kaza and Tony Stockwell.

Lauren Rainbow is the co-author of the bestselling “Mediumship Training Deck” (with John Holland), has been featured on Fox News; taught at Omega Institute, Lily Dale, and Kripalu, and more.

In This Episode

- Mediumship vs. psychic abilities (and how to tell the difference)  

- Residual vs. conscious spirit energy + “portal” places  

- Akashic Records: what they are and how they guide your life  

- Grounding, Reiki, and working safely with intense energy  

- The Energy of Sacred Sites 

For more on Lauren Rainbow (readings, classes, journeys): https://laurenrainbow.com/  

- *Mediumship Training Deck* (Hay House): https://a.co/d/0eRal0th

- Journeys: Mexico (Sept), Egypt (Nov), India (Jan) — limited spots: https://laurenrainbow.com/sacred-travel/

For more on Traci, Kathy and the podcast, visit: https://curious-explorers.com/

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This week, Traci Stein invites her husband Jason “Doe” —a real estate pro with 30+ years of experience—on for his first-ever interview… and let’s just say he’s seen things that *don’t* show up on a home inspection.

Together, they unpack the strange intersection of paranormal activity + home buying: the childhood moment that still gives Jason chills, the long-running “activity” in Traci’s family home, and the Jersey Shore purchase that came with a little extra… personality.

You’ll also hear what they did to reset the energy (from rituals to renovations) and the surprising question: 

Do you have to disclose a haunting when you sell?

Traci breaks down New Jersey’s disclosure gray zone and the famous court case that basically made ghosts a legal problem.

Mentioned in this episode: 

“Of Magic, Mystery, and a Mulberry Tree” (True story published in, Oh Sandy, p. 227, available via Amazon): ​​https://a.co/d/0gVmWBxM

“Our Haunted House on the Hudson” by Helen Herdman Ackley (Reader’s Digest): chrome-extension://efaidnbmnnnibpcajpcglclefindmkaj/https://www.rd.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/Our_Haunted_House_on_the_Hudson_May_1977-1.pdf

Unpacking Possibility interview with medium Lauren Rainbow: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/ep-4-tuning-in-interview-with-psychic-medium-lauren-rainbow/id1560681195?i=1000519966117

NJ Administrative Code 11:5-6.4(d): https://regulations.justia.com/states/new-jersey/title-11/chapter-5/subchapter-6/section-11-5-6-4/

**Disclaimer:** Not legal advice—just spirited conversation.

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Traci + Kathy kick off Season 3 of Curious Explorers live from The Showroom in Asbury Park, NJ during the Jersey Devil Fable Festival—and investigate a  paranormal pattern:

Why do so many “evil” beings come with horns, tails, and cloven feet?

They trace the look back through myth and religion — from Pan (a god, later villainized), Azazel (a fallen angel), and Baal (a god later recast as a demonic king—and suddenly trending). Then they turn to the Jersey Devil, the Pine Barrens’ most famous resident, and unpack how his imagery evolved—and why this 1700s story has a surprisingly "political" origin.

We also take a quick side trip to explore the viral AI-generated “demon-in-the-clouds” image on social media that reignited Baal (and Antichrist) speculation online.

For more on the Curious Explorers, visit: https://curious-explorers.com/

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What did the US military learn from 2 decades of psychic spying?

Ret. Sgt. Lyn Buchanan - one of the original Star Gate remote viewers - shares what he knows (or at least what he can share...) in this episode of the Curious Explorers Podcast. (It's still our most listened-to episodes to date!).

For more on Lyn Buchanan and Controlled Remote Viewing, visit: https://www.crviewer.com/

Catch the Curious Explorers Podcast on Apple Music and all your favorite streaming apps.

For more on the ladies of Curious Explorers, visit: https://curious-explorers.com/

For more on Kathy Kelly and the Paranormal Museum, visit: https://paranormalbooksnj.com/

For more on Traci Stein, visit: https://www.drtracistein.com/

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Was Father Malachi Martin a savior or sinner? Spiritual counselor or Casanova? And what supernatural force has been trying to stop Director Marty Stalker from telling Father Martin's story?

In this encore of Part II of the interview with Marty Stalker,  director of the Netflix documentary, "Hostage to the Devil," Marty does a deeper dive into controversial exorcist, Father Malachi Martin.

Marty delves further into the world of demonic possession and the paranormal phenomena that he continues to encounter when speaking on these topics. In fact, you’ll hear some of the strange audio interference we experienced while recording; and in the YouTube version, you’ll get another glimpse of the type of light anomaly that punctuated the interview.

Marty also discusses his conversations with notable personalities like Malachi Martin’s staunchest critic, Robert Blair Kaiser; radio legend Art Bell; Malachi Martin’s confidant, Ralph Sarchie; Father Cesar Truqui, and more.

Finally, Marty shares details on his upcoming sequel to the documentary,  “Hostage to the Devil.”

Tune in for an intriguing conversation about filmmaking and one of the Catholic church’s most enigmatic and polarizing figures.

And catch the YouTube version to see some of the visual anomalies that occurred during the interview: https://youtu.be/zWAIfl24iOQ?si=_1O1b6cCN-q5z8rU

For more on Marty Stalker and the “Hostage to the Devil” podcast, visit:

https://martystalker.com/

And

https://www.youtube.com/@CausewayPicturesNI

For more on Kathy Kelly and the Paranormal Museum in Asbury Park, NJ, as well as ghost tours, investigations, the Jersey Devil Fable Festival and other events, visit: https://paranormalbooksnj.com/

For more on Traci Stein, her guided hypnotic imagery, upcoming events, and her other podcast, “Unpacking Possibility with Dr. Traci Stein,”  visit: https://www.drtracistein.com/

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Who was controversial exorcist and Vatican insider Father Malachi Martin? Is demonic possession real? What supernatural force may be working against the truth coming out?

In this special encore episode of Curious Explorers, we’re joined by Marty Stalker, the director of the Netflix documentary 'Hostage to the Devil,' which explores the life and exorcisms of Father Martin. 

Marty reveals what he learned during his 6-year journey making the film, and also  describes the supernatural “resistance” Marty encountered while making the movie and since then. The interview also delves deep into the complex character of Father Martin, the controversies around exorcism, and Marty's personal spiritual journey. 

Tune in for an intriguing conversation about filmmaking and one of the Catholic church’s most enigmatic and polarizing figures.

Check out the YouTube version to see some of the visual anomalies that occurred during the interview: https://youtu.be/HjUDZ2ljVnY?si=hP5Pj9m0RKY0nTm2

For more on Marty Stalker and the “Hostage to the Devil” podcast, visit:

https://martystalker.com/

And

https://www.youtube.com/@CausewayPicturesNI

For more on Kathy Kelly and the Paranormal Museum in Asbury Park, NJ, as well as ghost tours, investigations, the Jersey Devil Fable Festival and other events, visit: https://paranormalbooksnj.com/

For more on Traci Stein, her guided hypnotic imagery, upcoming events, and her other podcast, “Unpacking Possibility with Dr. Traci Stein,”  visit: https://www.drtracistein.com/

Chapters:

01:59 Director Marty Stalker's Background

04:42 "Technical Difficulties" and Paranormal Resistance

05:58 Marty's Experiences and Insights

09:07 Father Malachi Martin's Mystique

21:23 Marty's Personal Journey and Beliefs

26:34 Frustrations with Religion and Spirituality

27:08 Creating a Film Without Bias

27:46 Exorcism and Malachi Martin

28:30 Audience Reactions to the Film

33:44 Exorcism and Its Rarity

38:56 Personal Experiences and Intuition

47:21 Challenges and Supernatural “Resistance”

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Ever wonder why that vintage doll at the estate sale is giving you major bad vibes? Traci and Kathy crack open the creepy toy box on haunted dolls, from eBay's booming market to the A-listers of possessed porcelain (looking at you, Robert and Annabelle). Kathy spills the tea about her 100+ haunted doll collection – including the one that sent her running from the Paranormal Museum in the dead of night. 

Meanwhile, Traci reminisces about a Dead Files gem: one woman, 2,000 haunted dolls, and a daughter who's really into death.

Find out who sent Traci a (possibly) haunted doll, and what possessed her to stage a full-on photo shoot with it; why spirits love seeping into tiny ceramic bodies; when "collecting" crosses a weird line, and the science behind why dolls creep (most of) us out.

Catch the Curious Explorers Podcast on Apple Music and all your favorite streaming apps.

https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/curious-explorers/id1756564535

For more on the ladies of Curious Explorers, visit: https://curious-explorers.com/

For more on Kathy Kelly and the Paranormal Museum, visit: https://paranormalbooksnj.com/

For more on Traci Stein, visit: https://www.drtracistein.com/

To read the article by Rosemary Ellen Guiley mentioned in this episode: https://www.llewellyn.com/journal/article/2689#:~:text=March%2016%2C%202018%20READ%20TIME,activated%20by%20the%20right%20circumstanes.

To read the VICE article mentioned in this episode: https://www.vice.com/en/article/this-is-why-we-think-dolls-are-creepyutm_sourcetonicfbus/

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Join Kathy and Traci as they explore one of America's most famous haunted locations: the Myrtles Plantation in St. Francisville, Louisiana. 

In this episode, Kathy shares the story behind a unique artifact in the Paranormal Museum—a cutting from the oleander tree at the center of the plantation's most enduring ghost story. 

But this isn't just another retelling of the legend of “Chloe,” the enslaved woman said to haunt the property. Instead, Kathy examines what happens when we strip away romanticized narratives of the Old South and the Myrtles legend,  and confront the brutal historical realities of plantation life and the people who were enslaved there.

What You'll Discover:

• The legend of Chloe and the poisoned birthday cake—and why the historical record tells a different story
• How ghost stories form around places shaped by systemic trauma and exploitation
• The famous 1990s photograph that captured what appears to be a spectral figure
• Why the Myrtles' haunting persists 
• The significance of the Oleander tree as a “living witnesses” and the "DNA of a ghost story"
• Kathy's take on whether the Myrtles is truly haunted

This episode goes beyond typical ghost story fare to explore how hauntings can be structural rather than tied to single events, and why removing one explanation doesn't remove the experiences themselves. It's an honest  examination of how we tell stories about haunted places—and whose stories are and are not recorded.

Content Note: This episode includes frank, historically accurate discussions of slavery, s*xual exploitation, and violence against enslaved people.

3:20 - Overview of the Myrtles Plantation

11:51 - The Legend of Chloe

18:43 - The Brutal Reality of Enslavement

34:46 - The Famous Photograph

39:35 - The Oleander Tree Artifact

44:57 - The Nature of the Haunting

48:39 - Kathy's Take on Whether the Myrtles is Haunted

52:56 - Trees as Living Witnesses

For more on Kathy Kelly and the Paranormal Museum, visit: https://paranormalbooksnj.com/

For more on Traci Stein, visit: https://www.drtracistein.com/

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Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/curiousexplorersshow/

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@CuriousExplorersShow

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What if the boundary between life and death isn't as solid as we think? Join Traci and Kathy as they explore deathbed visions— when the dying encounter the otherworldly – departed loved ones, spiritual figures and glimpses of heaven.

Are these experiences comforting illusions or genuine glimpses beyond the veil? Drawing from bestselling books and deeply personal stories, the Curious Explorers navigate this profound mystery with their signature blend of heart and humor. Expect moving personal accounts, haunted objects, protection spells, and honest conversation about what might be possible in those final, sacred moments.

Whether you're a skeptic or a believer, this episode will leave you questioning everything you thought you knew about life's final frontier.

For more information on the Curious Explorers Podcast, or to support the show, visit: https://curious-explorers.com/

For more on Kathy Kelly and the Paranormal Museum, visit: https://paranormalbooksnj.com/

For more on Traci Stein, visit: https://www.drtracistein.com/

Follow the Curious Explorers on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/CuriousExplorersShow/

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/curiousexplorersshow/

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@CuriousExplorersShow

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Was the Bloody Mary legend based on Queen Mary? Countess Elizabeth Bathory? Or American Mary Worth? 

Who – or what – shattered the mirrors at the Paranormal Museum? 

Has Kathy ever summoned Bloody Mary?

And do YOU dare to summon her?

For more information on the Curious Explorers Podcast, or to support the show, visit: https://curious-explorers.com/

For more on Kathy Kelly and the Paranormal Museum, visit: https://paranormalbooksnj.com/

For more on Traci Stein, visit: https://www.drtracistein.com/

Follow the Curious Explorers on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/CuriousExplorersShow/

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/curiousexplorersshow/

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@CuriousExplorersShow

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Join Traci and Kathy as they explore the fascinating world of spirit portraiture!  

Traci shares her personal experience as a sitter for six talented mediums who create portraits of loved ones from the other side—complete with comparison photos (in the YouTube version of the episode).

The conversation weaves through the origins of spiritualism, the role of art in mediumship, and the enduring human desire to connect with those who have crossed over. 

Whether you’re a believer, a skeptic, or just curious, this episode offers a blend of history, humor, and heartfelt stories from the edge of the unknown. 

Don’t forget to like, share, and follow—your engagement keeps the conversation (and maybe the spirits) alive!

For more information on the Curious Explorers Podcast, or to support the show, visit: https://curious-explorers.com/

For more on Traci Stein, her meditations and upcoming events, visit: https://www.drtracistein.com/

For more on Kathy Kelly and the Paranormal Museum, visit: https://paranormalbooksnj.com/
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To contact the mediums mentioned in this episode:

Laura Solages: https://www.soul-ages.com/home

Glenn Citerony: https://glennciterony.com/contact/

Special thanks also to mediums and spirit artists Carolyn Soares, Dale Heffer, and Gisele, and all of the spirits who came through to them.

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In 1967, New Jersey housewife and mother of four, Dorothy Allison had a vivid dream about a missing boy – including that he had drowned and would be found in a drainpipe -- wearing a snowsuit, and with his shoes on the wrong feet. A month later, the boy’s body was found exactly as Dorothy had described, beginning her 30-year journey as a volunteer psychic detective assisting law enforcement.

In this episode, Traci and Kathy cover some of Dorothy Allison’s headline-making cases, and also discuss other notable psychic detectives like Pam Coronado and Nancy Orlen Weber. And Traci shares the one case that confirmed she was definitely not cut out for psychic (or other) crime solving!

For more on the Curious Explorers Podcast, visit:

https://curious-explorers.com/

For more on Kathy Kelly and the Paranormal Museum in Asbury Park, NJ: https://paranormalbooksnj.com/

For more on Traci Stein’s Intuition Development Course mentioned in this episode: https://www.drtracistein.com/offers/G7RAF2Ek/checkout

Articles about Dorothy Allison and the headline-making cases she helped solve: 

https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1999-dec-07-mn-41451-story.html

https://www.rd.com/list/mysteries-solved-by-psychics/

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Traci interviews Scott Allan, “The Boston Medium,” about his journey from funeral director to internationally known psychic medium. 

Scott talks about working in a haunted funeral home, his spontaneous intuitive opening, and shares EVPs of “David,” the spirit who spent years trying to get his attention. (See timestamps for location of EVPs.)

For more on Scott Allan, his book, podcast, readings and events, visit:  https://mediumscottallan.com/

For more on the Curious Explorers show, and to buy us a coffee, visit: https://curious-explorers.com/

For more on Traci Stein, her audio programs, her other podcast and more, visit: https://www.drtracistein.com/

For more on Kathy Kelly and the Paranormal Museum in Asbury Park, NJ, visit: https://paranormalbooksnj.com/

Show Highlights:

00:31 – Scott Allan: From Funeral Director to Spirit Communicator

01:19 – Paranormal Anecdotes & Halloween Vibes

• Discussion of Scott’s book, “In the Presence of Light,” and chilling stories.

02:00 – Scott’s Awakening

• Scott describes his sometimes frightening and totally unexpected awakening to mediumship.

03:40 – First Paranormal Experiences

• Scott’s early ghost hunting, haunted funeral home, and other spirit encounters.

06:30 – The Spirit Named David

• The recurring spirit “David” and how he made contact through a series of EVPs and a personal appearance.

10:03 – EVP 1 of multiple spirits calling Scott’s name

13:00 – Living with the Paranormal

• Scott’s struggle with constant spirit contact, questioning his sanity, and seeking help.

20:47 – EVP 2 “...David’s back…”

21:00 – Crossing Spirits Over

• The emotional story of helping David and other spirits cross into the light.

21:25 – EVP 3 “Can You Give Us a Name?…David…”

28:00 – Embracing Mediumship

• Scott’s acceptance of his abilities, training, and the growth of his practice.

35:00 – Notable Readings & Public Demonstrations

• Memorable readings, working with Forbes Riley, and validation of his gift.

45:00 – Humor, Levity, and the Spirit World

• The importance of humor and lightness in mediumship.

50:00 – Reflections and Advice

• Scott’s philosophy, the role of spirit, and advice for those interested in mediumship.

62:00 – How to Connect with Scott

• Scott shares his website, events, newsletter, and podcast info.

64:00 – Closing Remarks

• Traci thanks Scott, wraps up the episode, and encourages listeners to stay curious.

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The “Scary Stories” series continues, as Kathy shares a haunting, original take on the “Bloody Mary” legend, centered around a mysterious antique mirror in a charming “new” old house. Dare you say her name? 

For more on the Curious Explorers podcast, and to support the show, visit: https://curious-explorers.com/

For more on Kathy Kelly and the Paranormal Museum and Original Asbury Park Ghost Tours, visit: https://paranormalbooksnj.com/

For more on Traci Stein, her other podcast (Unpacking Possibility with Dr. Traci Stein), her meditations and more, visit: https://www.drtracistein.com/

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Join Traci and Kathy as they do a deeper dive into the legend of "Hoppie," the Lake Hopatcong monster. The Curious Explorers unearth the folklore and news items from the 1800s to the present about Hoppie and other NJ sea monster sightings. They also share some NJ personal anecdotes about the fabled home to this mysterious lake creature. 

Is Hoppie actually an anaconda? A looonnngg lived dinosaur? A spiritual being? Or something else entirely? Join the ladies as they unpack the intersection of myth, local history, and the enduring fascination with cryptids.

For more on the Curious Explorers podcast, and to support the show, visit: https://curious-explorers.com/

For more on Kathy Kelly and the Paranormal Museum and Original Asbury Park Ghost Tours, visit: https://paranormalbooksnj.com/

For more on Traci Stein, her other podcast (Unpacking Possibility with Dr. Traci Stein), her meditations and more, visit: https://www.drtracistein.com/

To read the article by Mary Sparago in NJ Digest referenced in the episode: https://thedigestonline.com/new-jersey/new-jersey-sea-serpent/

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Get ready for the next chilling installment in our "Scary Stories Series," leading up to Halloween! In this episode, we dive into the eerie legend of the fabled monster said to lurk beneath the waters of New Jersey’s Lake Hopatcong. 

Is there really something sinister hiding in the watery depths, or is it simply a myth? Listen in and decide for yourself—if you dare.

For more on the Curious Explorers podcast, and to support the show, visit: https://curious-explorers.com/

For more on Kathy Kelly and the Paranormal Museum and Original Asbury Park Ghost Tours, visit: https://paranormalbooksnj.com/

For more on Traci Stein, her other podcast (Unpacking Possibility with Dr. Traci Stein), her meditations and more, visit: https://www.drtracistein.com/

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In Part 2 of “La Llorona,” Kathy and Traci unpack the history and psychology of the legend – including La Llorona’s jealousy, heartbreak, murder and madness. They also discuss true crime cases of filicide and the intersection of mental illness, evil, and murder. 

[Trigger warning: this episode covers 3 real life cases of mothers who murdered their children. Listener discretion is advised.]

For more on the Curious Explorers podcast, and to support the show, visit: https://curious-explorers.com/

For more on Kathy Kelly and the Paranormal Museum and Original Asbury Park Ghost Tours, visit: https://paranormalbooksnj.com/

For more on Traci Stein, her other podcast (Unpacking Possibility with Dr. Traci Stein), her meditations and more, visit: https://www.drtracistein.com/

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In this chilling episode, the ladies of Curious Explorers invite you to dim the lights and gather close for a haunting journey into the legend of La Llorona—the Weeping Woman. As autumn settles in and Halloween approaches, Kathy weaves a spellbinding retelling of one of the most enduring and eerie folktales from the Americas.

La Llorona is a spectral figure whose grief and warning echo along riversides and through generations. She reminds us of the power of myth, the weight of loss, and the rules we pass down to keep the darkness at bay.

Whether you’re a longtime fan or joining for the first time, this episode promises goosebumps, insight, and a reminder: some stories are meant to be heard in the dark.

Press play—if you dare—and let the river remember you.

For more on Curious Explorers and to support the show, visit: https://curious-explorers.com/

For more on Kathy Kelly, the Paranormal Museum and the Original Asbury Park Ghost Tours in Asbury Park, visit: https://paranormalbooksnj.com/

For more on Traci Stein, her meditations and her Intuitive Development course, and her other podcast ("Unpacking Possibility with Dr. Traci Stein") visit: https://www.drtracistein.com/

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Join the Curious Explorers they count down to Spooky Season with Mary Shelley’s Frankenstein. Grab a cup of tea (or perhaps a glass of wine) as Kathy does a deep dive into the complex, tragic, and deeply human narrative that birthed one of literature’s most iconic monsters. The ladies also ponder Frankenstein’s eerie and prescient themes as they relate to contemporary science, technology, and the sometimes murky boundaries of human endeavor.

For more on the Curious Explorers, and to support the show, visit: https://curious-explorers.com/

For more on the Paranormal Museum and the Original Asbury Park Ghost Tours in Asbury Park, visit: https://paranormalbooksnj.com/

For more on Traci Stein, her meditations and her Intuitive Development course, visit: https://www.drtracistein.com/

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Master remote viewer Lori Williams joins Traci to talk all about remote viewing -- from its use as a highly accurate psychic tool, to Lori’s journey working with luminaries Lyn Buchanan, Mel Riley, and more. Lori also discussed her previous work with law enforcement, how remote viewing can reveal the answers to life’s most pressing questions, and how you can become a highly skilled viewer. 

In the second half, Lori shares what she learned from remote viewing Bigfoot, and describes the uncanny events that unfolded as a result of tapping into this esoteric target.

For more information on Lori Williams, her books, courses, free masterclass, media and upcoming events, visit:

https://intuitivespecialists.com/

For more on the Curious Explorers,  visit: https://curious-explorers.com/

For more on Traci Stein, her other podcast, her intuition development course, meditations and more, visit: https://www.drtracistein.com/

For more on Kathy Kelly and the Paranormal Museum in Asbury Park, NJ, visit: https://paranormalbooksnj.com/

Timestamps & Key Moments

1. Lori Williams talks about working with Lyn Buchanan

• 0:57 – 7:12
  Lori’s background, studying under Lyn Buchanan, the rigorous training process, and becoming the first civilian certified as a controlled remote viewing instructor.
  
  

2. Working with law enforcement on missing persons cases

• 2:38 – 8:11
  Lori’s experience working with law enforcement, missing persons, and high-stakes cases, including a detailed story about a missing child and the impact of her remote viewing work.
  
  

3. Training in remote viewing

• 1:40 – 31:00
  Lori discusses the structure of remote viewing, her approach to teaching, the phases of training, and how anyone can learn the discipline.
  
  

4. Remote viewing Bigfoot

• 53:18 – 56:00
  Lori recounts her experience remote viewing Bigfoot for Coast to Coast AM, including her initial skepticism and the surprising results.
  
  

5. Bigfoot as a time traveler

• 56:41 – 58:01
  Lori describes the revelation from her session that Bigfoot’s defense is time travel, and how this aligns with Native American legends.
  
  

6. Bigfoot as a trickster and connector

• 1:07:46 – 1:12:18
  Stories of Bigfoot as a trickster—causing objects to disappear and reappear, manipulating electronics, and acting as a connector between people.
  
  

7. Uncanny feedback

• 45:36 – 50:15
  Lori shares stories of delayed and uncanny feedback from her remote viewing sessions, including validation years later and unexpected confirmations.
  
  

8. Connecting with Lori Williams

• 1:17:22 – End
  Where to find Lori online, her books, courses, and resources for learning more about remote viewing.
  
  
  

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Are Cape Cod alien sightings an open secret? 

What made Kathy flee Truro Air Force Base? 

And what happened to the soldier who “lost” two hours of time? 

Find the answers to these questions and more on this episode of Curious Explorers!

Chapters:

1. Budd Hopkins Introduction – 06:18
2. Guglielmo Marconi – 06:50
3. Truro Air Force Base – 09:54
4. Budd Hopkins, Alien Abductions & Hypnosis --16:21
5. The Soldier's Missing Time – 23:42
6. Kathy's Creepy Encounter at Truro Air Force Base – 25:07
7. Traci's Take on Hypnosis – 29:45

For more on the Curious Explorers, and to support the show, visit: https://curious-explorers.com/

For more on Provincetown’s own Sanctum Paranormal Museum, shop and tours, visit: https://ptownparanormal.com/

For more on the Paranormal Museum and the Original Asbury Park Ghost Tours in Asbury Park, visit: https://paranormalbooksnj.com/

For more on Traci Stein, her meditations and her Intuitive Development course, visit: https://www.drtracistein.com/

To read, “CIA files reveal how U.S. used psychics to spy on Iran,” visit:

https://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/national/article131827589.html

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Was there real life Van Helsing?  Did Traci bend a spoon with her mind? Is Kathy channeling Zoolander? And who let the dogs out?? 

In this episode, Kathy and Traci tackle 80s TV nostalgia, “blue steel,” and the historical events that inspired Bram Stoker’s Van Helsing, werewolf stories, and more. 

For more on the Curious Explorers podcast, to ask us a question, share your spooky stories, or to buy us a coffee, visit: https://curious-explorers.com/

For more on Kathy Kelly, the Paranormal Museum and the Original Asbury Park Ghost Tour, visit: https://paranormalbooksnj.com/

For more on Traci Stein, her meditations and her intuition development course, visit: https://www.drtracistein.com/

Timestamps & Highlights:

• 00:00 – “Blue Steel”:
  Kathy’s secret weapon.
• 02:03 – Cagney & Lacey &  Meg Foster:
  80s classic cop shows and was Meg Foster was told to wear contacts?
• 05:48 Costco Fashion
  Say no more.
• 10:48 – Humidity or Hell?: 
  Welcome to New Jersey!
• 11:48 – Kathy’s Dogs and Scary Bunnies:
  Someone should never have watched, “Monty Python.”
• 15:39 – Spoon Bending & Psychic Events:
  How to succeed at spoon bending, and a shoutout to Carmen and the power of intention.
• 18:00 – Movie Talk: Red Lights & Paranormal Investigators:
  Why you should go see the film “Red Lights.” 
• 21:00 – Mediumship, Ethics, and Evidence:
  What happens if a medium can’t read you? 
• 23:45 – Van Helsing: Fact vs. Fiction:
  The real historical figures who inspired Van Helsing, the context of 18th and 19th-century Europe, and science vs. superstition.
• 29:00 – Vampire Panics & Werewolf Trials:
  True stories of vampire panics, werewolf trials, and the evolution of supernatural beliefs.’
• 36:00 - Van Helsing’s Legacy & Modern Paranormal Research
• 1:10:00 – The Legacy of Van Helsing:
  How Van Helsing became a cultural archetype, and what he represents for modern paranormal investigators and scholars.
• 44:00 – Is Sabrina a Familiar?:
  Sabrina is more than just a cat. Probably.

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What do Barbara Brennan, Bill Bengston, Bernard Grad, and biophoton research have in common (besides the letter B?)? They all shed some light on the phenomenon of auras - or the energy fields around us that some people can see (and we all probably perceive in some way). In this episode, Traci and Kathy ponder what auras may be, how they’re connected to healing, psi, and consciousness, as well as what auras might tell us about someone’s health, personality, and more. The ladies also chat about current biophoton research showing that light emitted by the brain is detectable outside the human skull. Could this phenomenon contribute to what we experience as the aura?

Plus, Kathy chats about her recent trip to her ancestral home in Dysart, County Roscommon, Ireland.

For photos of Kathy’s trip and the topics and people mentioned in this episode, catch the video on YouTube: @CuriousExplorersShow

For more on the Curious Explorers and the podcast, visit: https://curious-explorers.com/

For more on Traci Stein, her meditations, courses and events, visit: https://www.drtracistein.com/

For more on Kathy Kelly, the Paranormal Museum and the original Asbury Park ghost tour, visit: https://paranormalbooksnj.com/

Follow the Curious Explorers on Instagram (@CuriousExplorersShow).

To hear Traci's interview with psychic detective Pam Coronado (mentioned in this episode), visit:  https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/ep-52-psychic-detective-pam-coronado/id1560681195?i=1000641908667

To read the Scientific American article on biophotons and the brain: 

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/your-brain-is-glowing-and-scientists-cant-figure-out-why/

Creath & Schwartz, "What Biophoton Images of Plants Can Tell Us About Biofields and Healing"

https://emmind.net/openpapers_repos/Endogenous_Fields-Mind/Endo._Biophotons/Biophotons_Various/2005_What_Biophoton_Images_of_Plants_Can_Tell_Us_about_Biofields_and_Healing.pdf

00:00 Casual Catch-Up and Gardening Woes

00:59 A Trip to County Roscommon, Ireland

05:04 Exploring Aura Photography

06:59 Understanding Auras: Traits and States

09:52 Historical Perspectives on Auras

14:48 Personal Experiences with Aura Readings

17:53 The Mysteries of Intuitive Perception

26:52 Unexplained Phenomena and Personal Experiences with Auras

27:31 Barbara Brennan's Healing Science

31:00 Bill Bengston's Energy Healing Method

35:20 Biophotons and Scientific Research

41:08 Perception of Auras and Energy Fields

51:30 Human Potential and a Few Zombies

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This episode begins with the Curious Explorers catching up and sharing some eerie Electronic Voice Phenomena (EVPs) that were captured while recording some of Kathy & Traci’s spookiest episodes.

The heart of this episode, however, is the story of Bridget Bishop, the first woman executed during the Salem Witch Trials of 1692. The Curious Explorers discuss the climate of fear, hysteria, and social control that led to the unjust arrest and execution of Bridget Bishop and numerous others during this dark period in history. 

For more on the Curious Explorers podcast, to send us a message or buy a coffee, visit: https://curious-explorers.com/

Follow us on social media and catch the video on YouTube: @CuriousExplorersShow

For more on Kathy Kelly and the Paranormal Museum in Asbury Park, NJ, visit: https://paranormalbooksnj.com/

For more on Traci Stein, her audio hypnotic meditations and more, visit: https://www.drtracistein.com/

00:00 Curious Catch Up

00:08 EVPs and Creepy Sounds

00:58 Was that a Demon?

01:46 Analyzing Audio Anomalies

03:22 Eastern State EVPs

14:47 Sanctum Paranormal and Upcoming Events

18:36 Introduction to the Salem Witch Trials

28:07 Three Marriages and a Red Bodice

30:00 Salem in 1692

33:04 Hysteria, Fame & Control

36:11 Bridget Bishop's Trial and Execution

40:42 The Legacy and Hauntings of Bridget Bishop

47:21 Salem's History and Preservation

55:39 Share Your Thoughts, Wants, & Scary Stories with Us!

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What do hell hounds, haunted bathrooms and Screaming Jenny have in common?  Can you really get your (ghostly) fix on Route 666? Will Kathy ever live out her fantasy of becoming a trucker? 

The answers to these questions and more (plus the winner of our recent giveaway on this episode of Curious Explorers!

For more on Kathy, Traci and the Curious Explorers Podcast, and to send us a message (we’d love to hear from you!), visit: https://curious-explorers.com/

For more on Kathy Kelly, the Paranormal Museum in Asbury Park, and Sanctum Paranormal in Provincetown (with Adam Berry), visit: https://curious-explorers.com/

For more on Traci Stein, her audio meditations, and the “Unpacking Possibility” podcast, visit: https://www.drtracistein.com/

The 5 Most Haunted Truck Stops in the US:

https://www.bloomtrucks.com/the-5-most-haunted-truck-stops-in-the-u-s

This Old Missouri Truck Stop is Haunted:

https://mymix923.com/haunted-tales-diamonds-restaurant/?utm_source=tsmclip&utm_medium=referral

Travelling through the haunted Route 666, the Devil's Highway:

https://www.dangerousroads.org/north-america/usa/4993-route-666.html

Common Trucking Urban Legends and Superstitions:

https://www.bloomtrucks.com/common-trucking-urban-legends-superstitions

00:00 Weekend (Road) Warrior, and Kathy, Harry or Drew?

02:47 Traci’s Cape Code Road Trip (with Only ONE Stop)

09:39 Ghost Stops and Haunted Highways

14:52 Truckers Get Paranormal

19:25 Screaming Jenny's Truck Stop

28:32 How to Ruin Your Microbiome

28:59 Sour Patch Kids and a Soda to Go

29:38 Love's Travel Stop in Gallup, New Mexico

35:31 Hell by Way of Iowa

40:45 The Devil’s Highway

52:15 Change for a $50

57:30 Final Thoughts and Drop Us a Line

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The Curious Explorers are serving up 80s hair, animal symbolism, and what happens if you disrespect the infamous “Devil’s Tree,” in Basking Ridge, NJ. Even better, all of this comes with a complimentary Irish breakfast. It’s so hearty and delicious, even “Annabelle” makes a cameo tonight. So touch up that Aquanet, pull up a chair at the Woolworth’s counter, order yourself some turkey, stuffing and mashed potatoes, and keep an eye out for those vultures.

**If you'd like us to upload the (possibly demonic) audio clips taken near "Blue," head over to our poll and let us know!**

00:00 Introduction and Personal Anecdotes

00:23 "It Smells Like the Beach"

04:35 You Won't Go Hungry in Little Ireland

08:41 "It's Not a Turkey"

14:44 Annabelle, Corpses, and Other Paranormal News

18:14 Cemetery Living

26:24 The Devil's Tree in Basking Ridge

26:48 Don’t Pee on the Devil

28:23 The Legend of the Devil's Tree

30:14 Local Folklore and Anecdotes

33:11 Historical Context and Rumors

36:12 "Weird New Jersey" Stories

44:15 It's Personal

50:23 Stay Curious and Keep Exploring

For more on the Curious Explorers podcast (and to buy us a coffee), visit: https://curious-explorers.com/

For more on THE Kathy Kelly and the Paranormal Museum in Asbury Park, NJ, visit: https://paranormalbooksnj.com/

And for more on Traci Stein, her other podcast, audio meditations, intuition course and upcoming events, visit: https://www.drtracistein.com/

Link to Episode with Other Paranormal News Items:

https://youtu.be/jFrNWvv3Axg?feature=shared

News Items Mentioned in this Episode

Annabelle and the Devils on the Run Tour

https://www.ibtimes.co.uk/why-annabelle-touring-us-quick-facts-about-doll-devils-run-1734120

Annabelle on Tour

https://www.ctinsider.com/entertainment/article/annabelle-doll-tiktok-warren-conjuring-20325005.php

“I Live in a Cemetery Alongside Corpses…”

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/i-live-cemetery-alongside-corpses-34386153

Mum Lost Half Her Body Weight – Thanks to a Ghost and Bonking Her New Man

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/health/mum-lost-half-body-weight-33642364

Devil’s Tree (Thrillist)

https://www.thrillist.com/travel/nation/most-haunted-places-in-america

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• What do Monty Python and New Jersey have in common? 
• What creepy cryptid is terrorizing Hoboken kids? 
• Which paranormal podcaster is related to Traci? 
• And how can you win our first-ever giveaway? 

Check out our first episode of Season 2 - recorded live at the Paranormal Museum in Asbury Park! - for answers to these questions and more. 

For more on the Curious Explorers podcast (and to buy us a coffee), visit: https://curious-explorers.com/

For more on the Severed True Crime Podcast, Drew Hudson and Harry Chambers, visit: https://www.severedpodcast.com/

For more on THE Kathy Kelly and the Paranormal Museum in Asbury Park, NJ, visit: https://paranormalbooksnj.com/

And for more on Traci Stein, her other podcast, audio meditations, intuition course and upcoming events, visit: https://www.drtracistein.com/

For a chance to win one of Traci’s albums in the “Cultivating Intuition” series with Hemi-Sync:

Leave us a comment on YouTube (@CuriousExplorersShow) with

1. Your favorite cryptid, and 
2. Your guess for which of these podcast hosts (Kathy, Drew, or Harry) is related to Traci.

(Only one entry per person.) Winner(s) will be announced on May 15th!)

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In this episode, Kathy and Traci go deep down the rabbit hole of Psi Savant Wolf Messing, the Soviet campaign to perfect and weaponize psychic powers, what the CIA knew about this, and more. They also take some detours into everything from alien encounters on Cape Cod, to NJ drone sightings, dogs chasing deer, and “the Italian Goodbye.” 

For more information on the Curious Explorers podcast, visit: 

https://curious-explorers.com/

For more on Kathy Kelly and the Paranormal Museum, visit: https://paranormalbooksnj.com/

For more on the Jersey Devil Fable Festival in Asbury Park, NJ, May 2-4, visit: https://allevents.in/asbury%20park/jersey-devil-fable-fest/200027673135308

For information and tickets for the Ghost Investigation with TV’s Adam Berry and Kathy Kelly, visit: https://paranormalbooksnj.com/jersey-devil-fable-fest-investigation-with-adam-berry/?fbclid=IwY2xjawJ3XM5leHRuA2FlbQIxMABicmlkETFEc0tPVmdubXZ1YXRiNjZCAR6plHo8Sdiafu4FExL7CZtId-4AWxUee5uLCPKoLrWeWUiXMAgDNyPdfMPJiQ_aem_ExqxScMnO6X0qkG7wJlk0A

For more on Traci Stein, her other podcast, audio programs and more, visit:

https://www.drtracistein.com/

To read the declassified CIA report, "Soviet and Eastern European Parapsychology Research," visit: https://www.cia.gov/readingroom/docs/NSA-RDP96X00790R000100010041-2.pdf

To read the New York Times article referenced in this episode, visit: https://www.nytimes.com/1977/06/19/archives/emigre-tells-of-research-in-soviet-in-parapsychology-for-military.html

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Is Kathy’s new house haunted? What visual anomalies manifested during filming? And is whatever’s spooking Kathy’s dogs connected to whoever’s buried on her property? 

In this episode, the Curious Explorers unpack these mysteries and more. They also chat about the results of Kathy and Adam Berry’s mini investigation of the new museum in Provincetown. Finally, Kathy and Traci preview the upcoming Jersey Devil Fable Festival in Asbury Park, New Jersey (it’s the same weekend as the one year anniversary of Curious Explorers!).

For more on the Jersey Devil Fable Festival, visit: https://paranormalbooksnj.com/the-jersey-devil-festival/

For more on the upcoming ghost investigation in Asbury Park with TV’s Adam Berry, visit: https://paranormalbooksnj.com/jersey-devil-fable-fest-investigation-with-adam-berry/

To learn more about the Curious Explorers hosts and the podcast, or to buy us a coffee, visit: https://curious-explorers.com/

For more on Kathy Kelly and the Paranormal Museum in Asbury Park, NJ, as well as ghost tours, investigations, and other events, visit: https://paranormalbooksnj.com/

For more on Traci Stein, her guided hypnotic imagery, upcoming events, and her other podcast, “Unpacking Possibility with Dr. Traci Stein,”  visit: https://www.drtracistein.com/

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Was Patience Worth a 17th-century muse to 20th-century housewife Pearl Curran? Was the Ouija board the portal for Worth to transmit her writing through Curran?  Or was Curran disguising - or even consciously unaware of - her own literary gifts?

In this episode, Kathy and Traci explore the history and controversies surrounding the Patience Worth case and ponder other reported cases of otherworldly inspiration. They also discuss the broader themes of mediumship, spiritual communication, reincarnation, and the complex interplay between the conscious and subconscious mind. 

To learn more about the Curious Explorers hosts and the podcast, or to buy us a coffee, visit: https://curious-explorers.com/

For more on Kathy Kelly and the Paranormal Museum in Asbury Park, NJ, as well as ghost tours, investigations, the Jersey Devil Fable Festival and other events, visit: https://paranormalbooksnj.com/

For more on Traci Stein, her guided hypnotic imagery, upcoming events, and her other podcast, “Unpacking Possibility with Dr. Traci Stein,”  visit: https://www.drtracistein.com/

00:00 Chit-Chat and Winter Woes

00:36 Live Event Ideas: Ghostly Karaoke

02:07 Introducing the Patient's Worth Case

05:10 The Life of Pearl Curran

13:37 Patient's Worth: The Spirit's Story

20:49 Exploring the Literary Merit of Historical Works

21:40 The Influence of Patience Worth on Spiritual Communication

21:55 Psychological Perspectives on Mediumship

22:09 The Complexity of Pearl Curran's Writings

23:00 The Role of the Subconscious in Creative Writing

23:57 Modern Examples of Channeling and Creativity

26:19 Historical and Modern Cases of Unexplained Talent

28:28 The Phenomenon of Channeling in Creative Processes

33:58 Final Thoughts on Channeling and Creativity

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In this special collaboration with "Unpacking Possibility," Traci interviews Kathy about all things paranormal!

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Have you ever had a dream that later came true? Experienced, “mother’s intuition?” Sensed the presence of a loved one after they passed away? Or had a gut feeling that proved to be right? If you’re like 67% of people according to a recent survey, you’ve probably had at least one experience that falls under the broad umbrella of the “paranormal.” 

In this episode, Traci Stein welcomes back her good friend, Kathy Kelly, a historian, owner of the Paranormal Museum, and co-host of their podcast, “Curious Explorers.” They dive deep into how we experience the paranormal, from energy healing and intuition to ghosts, hauntings, and much more. Whether you're a skeptic or a believer, this episode offers a fascinating exploration of the unseen and the unknown.

For more on Kathy Kelly, the Paranormal Museum, ghost tours and more, visit: https://paranormalbooksnj.com/

To view the main survey mentioned in this episode, visit: https://today.yougov.com/society/articles/44143-americans-describe-paranormal-encounters-poll

For more on Traci Stein, visit: https://www.drtracistein.com/

Follow "Unpacking Possibility with Dr. Traci Stein" on all your favorite streaming platforms, including Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/unpacking-possibility-with-dr-traci-stein/id1560681195?i=1000620641342

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In Part II of the interview with Marty Stalker,  director of "Hostage to the Devil," Marty does a deeper dive into controversial exorcist, Father Malachi Martin; demonic possession;  and the paranormal phenomena that he continues to encounter when speaking on these topics. In fact, you’ll hear some of the strange audio interference we experienced while recording; and in the YouTube version, you’ll get another glimpse of the type of light anomaly that punctuated the interview.

Marty also discusses his conversations with notable personalities like Malachi Martin’s staunchest critic, Robert Blair Kaiser; radio legend Art Bell; Malachi Martin’s confidant, Ralph Sarchie; Father Cesar Truqui, and more.

Finally, Marty shares details on his upcoming sequel to the documentary,  “Hostage to the Devil.”

Tune in for an intriguing conversation about filmmaking and one of the Catholic church’s most enigmatic and polarizing figures.

(And catch the YouTube version to see some of the visual anomalies that occurred during the interview: https://www.youtube.com/@CuriousExplorersShow)

For more on Marty Stalker and the “Hostage to the Devil” podcast, visit:

https://martystalker.com/

And

https://www.youtube.com/@CausewayPicturesNI

For more on Kathy Kelly and the Paranormal Museum in Asbury Park, NJ, as well as ghost tours, investigations, the Jersey Devil Fable Festival and other events, visit: https://paranormalbooksnj.com/

For more on Traci Stein, her guided hypnotic imagery, upcoming events, and her other podcast, “Unpacking Possibility with Dr. Traci Stein,”  visit: https://www.drtracistein.com/

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In this episode of Curious Explorers, we’re joined by Marty Stalker, the director of the documentary 'Hostage to the Devil,' which explores the life of Jesuit priest and exorcist Malachi Martin. Marty reveals his 6-year journey making the film, discusses the controversial life of Father Martin, and describes the supernatural “resistance” Marty encountered while making the movie and since then. The interview also delves deep into the complex character of Father Martin, the controversies around exorcism, and Marty's personal spiritual journey. 

Tune in for an intriguing conversation about filmmaking and one of the Catholic church’s most enigmatic and polarizing figures.

(And catch the YouTube version to see some of the visual anomalies that occurred during the interview: https://www.youtube.com/@CuriousExplorersShow)

For more on Marty Stalker and the “Hostage to the Devil” podcast, visit:

https://martystalker.com/

And

https://www.youtube.com/@CausewayPicturesNI

For more on Kathy Kelly and the Paranormal Museum in Asbury Park, NJ, as well as ghost tours, investigations, the Jersey Devil Fable Festival and other events, visit: https://paranormalbooksnj.com/

For more on Traci Stein, her guided hypnotic imagery, upcoming events, and her other podcast, “Unpacking Possibility with Dr. Traci Stein,”  visit: https://www.drtracistein.com/

Chapters:

00:00 Introduction

00:23 Special Guest Announcement

01:59 Marty Stalker's Background

04:42 Technical Difficulties and Paranormal Resistance

05:58 Marty's Experiences and Insights

09:07 Father Malachi Martin's Mystique

21:23 Marty's Personal Journey and Beliefs

26:34 Frustrations with Religion and Spirituality

27:08 Creating a Film Without Bias

27:19 Pride in the Film and Its Reception

27:46 Complexity of the Subject

28:30 Audience Reactions and Interpretations

33:44 Exorcism and Its Rarity

38:56 Personal Experiences and Intuition

47:21 Challenges and Supernatural “Resistance”

51:06 Conclusion and Final Thoughts

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Did the Ouija board help a woman find her soul mate? Are otherworldly advisors inherently “good” or could they be something more sinister? And who’s our special guest on an upcoming episode of Curious Explorers?

For answers to these questions and more, check out this week’s episode where Kathy and Traci tackle these topics and more!

For more information on the Curious Explorers Podcast, or to buy us a coffee, visit: https://curious-explorers.com/

For more on Kathy Kelly and the Paranormal Museum and the Original Asbury Park Ghost Tour, visit: https://paranormalbooksnj.com/

For more on Traci Stein, visit: https://www.drtracistein.com/

To view the episode of “Unsolved Mysteries” featuring paranormal investigator Don and his spirit helper, Becky, (Season 5, Episode 2), visit: https://www.netflix.com/browse

To read a free copy of the article, “It All Started with a Ouija Board,” visit: https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/10/style/laura-acker-evan-menscher-wedding.html?unlocked_article_code=1.t04.l_o5.5GHwhaTo7CTP&smid=url-share

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Can our intentions affect matter? Why do words seem to reshape water crystals? Can energy healers make mice live longer or kill cancer cells? And if our thoughts and intentions are powerful, could this be dangerous? In this episode of Curious Explorers, Traci and Kathy dive into some of the science on energy healing in the lab and ponder what that means outside of it. 

For more on the podcast, or to buy us a coffee, visit: 

https://curious-explorers.com/

For more on Kathy Kelly, the Paranormal Museum, and the original Asbury Park Ghost Tours and more, visit: https://paranormalbooksnj.com/

For more on Traci Stein, visit:

https://www.drtracistein.com/

Articles referenced in this episode: 

Abe, K., Ichinomiya, R., Kanai, T., & Yamamoto, K. (2012). Effect of a Japanese energy healing method known as Johrei on viability and proliferation of cultured cancer cells in vitro. The Journal of Alternative and Complementary Medicine, 18(3), 221-228.

Bengston W, Cizdziel P, Tanaka A, Matsuda H. Differential In Vivo Effects on Cancer Models by Recorded Magnetic Signals Derived From a Healing Technique. Dose-Response. 2023;21(2). doi:10.1177/15593258231179903

Grad B, Cadoret R, Paul G. An unorthodox method of treatment on wound healing in mice. Int J Parapsychol. 1961;3:5-24.

Grad B. A telekinetic effect on plant growth II experiments involving treatment of saline in stoppered bottles. Int J Parapsychol. 1963;5:114-133.

Radin D, Hayssen G, Emoto M, Kizu T. Double-blind test of the effects of distant intention on water crystal formation. Explore (NY). 2006 Sep-Oct;2(5):408-11. doi: 10.1016/j.explore.2006.06.004. PMID: 16979104.

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What weird stuff do the dead share with Kathy during the Asbury Park seances? Is a fan’s little boy really a reincarnated old man? And what happens if you’re on Krampus’s naughty list? (Hint: it’s not pretty.) We cover these topics, the upcoming “Dead of Winter” with Kathy & TV’s Adam Berry, the Jersey Devil Fable Festival, scary dreams, and much more on this episode of Curious Explorers!

For more information on the Curious Explorers show and to support the podcast, visit: https://curious-explorers.com/

For more information on Kathy Kelly, the Paranormal Museum, the original Asbury Park seances, ghost tours, “Dead of Night” and more, visit: https://paranormalbooksnj.com/

For more on Traci Stein, her psychic development class, audios, and more, visit: https://www.drtracistein.com/

(A special thank you to Danielle for sharing Tucker's story and the idea for making milk pie!)

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What happened while Kathy was in Transylvania? Are spirits aware we're aware of them? What did negative entities show Traci? Is Santa Claus actually a living thought form? 

Join the Curious Explorers for this week's chilling catch up!

And stay tuned to the end to catch a clip from "The Rabbit Hole Experience," with professional ghost hunter and author (and international man of mystery), Michael Robartes.

For more on Kathy Kelly, local seances, the Paranormal Museum and the ORIGINAL Asbury Park Ghost Tour, visit: https://paranormalbooksnj.com/

For more on Traci Stein, her meditations, self-paced psychic development course and more, visit: https://www.drtracistein.com/

For more on the Curious Explorers show and to support the podcast, visit: https://curious-explorers.com/

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Is reincarnation real? On this episode, Kathy and Traci seek to unravel the mystery of Bridey Murphy, a story that captivated the world in the mid-1950s and sparked a global conversation about reincarnation and past life regression.

Tonight we delve deep into the tale of a Colorado woman named Virginia Tighe who, under hypnosis, claimed to be the reincarnation of 19th-century Irishwoman Bridey Murphy. Join us as we explore this controversial case and the impact it had on the public's perception of reincarnation and hypnosis.

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Are shadow figures real? Are they always negative? In this episode, historian Kathy Kelly shares her take on shadow figures across cultures, including the Celtic malevolent fairy, Fear Dorcha, the Choctaw “soul eater” known as Nalusa Chito, and more.

Have you encountered Shadow Figures? Share your story and let us know!

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Did aliens abduct Travis Walton in 1975? 

In this episode, Kathy & Traci discuss the infamous "Travis Walton UFO Abduction" case, alien abduction lore in general, the reported “4 types of aliens” (some of them not so nice...), and more.

For more information on Kathy Kelly, the Paranormal Museum, and the Original Asbury Park Ghost Tours, haunted exhibits, seances, bookstore and more, visit: https://paranormalbooksnj.com/

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Traci interviews author and paranormal investigator Michael Robartes about his book (with Paul Conroy), "The Rabbit Hole Experience: Saquatches, Spirits and the People Who See Them."

In this episode, Michael shares how he came to lead "Scientific Paranormal," an investigative team that is part of The Atlantic Paranormal Society (TAPS) family. Michael and Traci talk about everything from investigating ghosts and hauntings to the nature of evil entities and the psychology of paranormal cases and the people who experience them. And Michael shares the practices (and one in particular) that he advises people stay away from.

For more on, "The Rabbit Hole Experience," Michael, and Paul Conroy, visit: https://www.rabbitholeexperience.com/

For more on Kathy Kelly, The Paranormal Museum, and all things paranormal in Asbury Park, NJ and beyond, visit: https://paranormalbooksnj.com/

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What do Stormy Daniels, a tentacled terror, weight loss, and a haunted doll have in common? They're just some of the creepy headlines we dissect on this episode of Curious Explorers!

For more on Kathy Kelly and the Paranormal Museum and Bookstore, ghost tours, seances and more, visit: https://www.paranormalbooksnj.com/about-kathy-kelly/

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It’s that spookiest time of year again! So, Kathy and Traci are counting down to Halloween with what are arguably the season’s most chilling films. So grab your popcorn (and maybe a protection amulet). And let us know your picks for most frightening flicks!

For more on Kathy Kelly and the Paranormal Museum: https://paranormalbooksnj.com/

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In this episode, Kathy and Traci do a deep dive into the life and legacy of Hans Holzer, prolific author, scholar, and pioneering figure in paranormal investigation. Holzer worked with noted mediums, investigated famous cases (including the Amityville Horror and the Whaley House), and brought terms like "ghosthunting" and "addle-brained dead" to TV and into homes across America. 

For more on Kathy Kelly, visit: https://www.paranormalbooksnj.com/about-kathy-kelly/

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In this Curious Explorers episode Demons & Deliverance, hosts Kathy and Traci dive into the chilling real-life events that inspired the film The Deliverance. They explore the haunting case of demonic possession that shook the nation, focusing on the intense exorcisms and supernatural occurrences faced by a family in distress. Kathy and Traci discuss the paranormal elements of the case, offering insights into the darker forces at play and the emotional toll on those involved. Their deep dive highlights the blurred lines between horror films and the unsettling realities behind such stories.

For more on Kathy Kelly, visit https://www.paranormalbooksnj.com/
 
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 And for bonus images and videos, follow the show on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@curiousexplorersshow

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In this week’s episode, Traci and Kathy get curious about a case of demonic possession that’s documented in Father Malachi Martin’s bestselling book, “Hostage to the Devil.” In the case in question, a young woman named “Marianne” exhibits ever-worsening signs of what Martin concludes can only be demonic possession - complete with bizarre behaviors, reacting violently to Christian symbols and prayers, demonstrations of telepathy and telekinesis. Marianne seems to reach into the very depths of the excorcist’s own secrets, taunting him with his past – in foreign languages she had never learned.  Could this be a case of true possession? Uncanny psychic phenomena? Mental illness? All of these? Tune in and find out!

For more on Kathy Kelly, visit https://www.paranormalbooksnj.com/

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What do Thomas Edison, Joan of Arc, Mike Pence, spiritualists, and Traci's dogs have common? They've all reportedly experienced clairaudience, or psychic hearing. (Chances are you have, too!) In this, our 10th episode, Traci and Kathy discuss both historic and personal experiences of auditory psychic phenomena - some of which have been LOUD. They also discuss recent research into hearing "spiritually significant voices," spooky stuff at Traci's house, how Kathy knows when she's not just hearing things, what makes skeptics "religious," and much more.

(For bonus historic and personal visuals, check out the YouTube version https://www.youtube.com/@curiousexplorersshow.)

For more on Traci's newest album, "Cultivating Intuition: Developing Clairaudience," visit: https://hemi-sync.com/product/cultivating-intuition-developing-clairaudience/


Scientific articles mentioned in this episode:

Cook CCH, Powell A, Alderson-Day B, Woods A. Hearing spiritually significant voices: A phenomenological survey and taxonomy. Med Humanit. 2022 Sep;48(3):273-284. doi: 10.1136/medhum-2020-012021. Epub 2020 Dec 7.

Powell, A. J., & Moseley, P. (2020). When spirits speak: absorption, attribution, and identity among spiritualists who report “clairaudient” voice experiences. Mental Health, Religion & Culture, 23(10), 841–856. https://doi.org/10.1080/13674676.2020.1793310

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Tune in as Sean McNamara details his year-long research into how psychedelics like psilocybin, LSD and more impacted his psychic perceptions. We also discussed meditation, spirituality, and when someone should steer clear of both meditation and psychedelics. Finally, Sean shared the unexpected and life-changing effects this project had on his life and work.

To learn more about Sean, visit:  https://www.mindpossible.com/. For information about Sean’s newest book, visit: https://www.pathofthegoldenteacher.com/. And to inquire about Sean’s counseling practice, visit https://goldenmeancounseling.com/.

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Author, counselor, and spiritual seeker Sean McNamara talks about what led him to sharpen his psychic skills and learn to move objects with his mind(!)

Sean shared how his path led him away from organized religion while deepening his sense of spiritual connection. He also spoke about his experiences of telepathy, witnessing an apport (an object materializing out of thin air!) in a coffee shop, and much more.

To see Sean moving objects with his mind, catch the video on YouTube: YouTube.com/@CuriousExplorersShow

To learn more about Sean, visit:  www.MindPossible.com. For information about Sean’s newest book, visit: www.PathOfTheGoldenTeacher.com. And to inquire about Sean’s counseling practice, visit www.GoldenMeanCounseling.com.

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For more on Traci Stein, visit: www.DrTraciStein.com. And to learn more about Kathy Kelly, and the Paranormal Provincetown tour company, visit www.ParanormalBooksNJ.com and www.Facebook.com/ProvincetownParanormal.

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Sgt. Lyn Buchanan, one of the original Stargate military remote viewers, sits down with Traci and discusses everything from:

-The US Government's secret spying program

-What a ninja got out of remote viewing training

-The remote viewing target that changed Lyn’s life

-The 3-letter word that’s a “four-letter” word in remote viewing

-The “real” 6th sense

-How remote viewing can change your life for the better - and worse

-Who should not take up remote viewing

-When it’s good for your psychic predictions to be wrong (and how to make that so)

-And Lyn’s new training facility and gathering place at the “Remote View Ranch,” in New Mexico.

To learn more about Lyn Buchanan and his trainings, remote viewing services, and more, visit: https://www.crviewer.com/

To learn more about and support the Remote View Ranch, visit: https://remoteviewranch.com/

Find Lyn’s book, “The Seventh Sense” on Amazon.com.

Controlled Remote Viewing Trainers (trained by Lyn Buchanan) mentioned in this episode:
Lori Williams
Colleen Marenich
Coral Carte
Paul O’Connor
Richie Mahoney
Gail Husick

Other people connected to remote viewing mentioned in this episode:
Ingo Swann
Hal Puthoff
Stephan Schwartz
Russell Targ
Pam Coronado

Researchers mentioned in this episode:
Daryl Bem, PhD
Dean Radin, PhD

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What’s haunting Kathy Kelly and the Paranormal Museum in Asbury Park? Is it the Bride and Groom, whose 100-year-old wedding attire has been observed moving? (that’s what I said)

Is it the death mask of young Madeleine, the French girl who tragically died right before her wedding? Or perhaps it’s the poor soul whose bones were desecrated by grave robbers and now reside for eternity in a cauldron in the Paranormal Museum? 

And finally, why on earth would Kathy Kelly surround herself with spooky and mysterious, purportedly haunted (and sometimes cursed) objects?

Discover the answers to these and other mysteries on this episode of Curious Explorers!

And of course, if you enjoy the episode, remember to LIKE, SHARE & FOLLOW!

To learn more about the Paranormal Museum and Kathy Kelly, visit http://www.ParanormalBooksNJ.com

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What do Abraham Lincoln, Sharon Tate, Edgar Allan Poe, the Marvel Universe, and the Big Bang Theory have in common? They all beg the question – can we foretell the future? And if so, can we change it? 

In this episode, we focus on precognition – it’s the one phenomenon that truly freaks Kathy out! And we discuss everything from precognitive dreams to “quantum jumping,” parallel lives, and more.

We explore:

What does it mean for “free will” if we know something is going to happen before it does? 

And if a precognitive dream or psychic “flash” leads us to make a different choice (which changes the outcome), is the initial precognition “wrong?” 

Should we be scared of psychic information about the future?

Or, can we  – as Burt Goldman said – use “Quantum Jumping” to choose the most desirable future?

What do you think? Let us know!

And stay tuned for next week’s episode, where we explore, “Precognition vs. Retrocausation.”

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What’s the deal with orbs? Are they evidence of ghosts or other paranormal phenomena? Or nothing more than photographic anomalies caused by dust, moisture, pollen or (eww!) insects?  Join historian Kathy Kelly and psychologist Traci Stein as they chat about the history of orbs and debate whether orbs might ever be evidence of something paranormal and more.

To see some orbs we’ve caught on camera, check out the video of this episode on our YouTube channel: @CuriousExplorersShow.

For more on Kathy Kelly, the Paranormal Museum, and Paranormal Books & Curiosities in Asbury Park, visit www.ParanormalBooksNJ.com.

For more on Traci Stein, her other podcast, hypnosis audio programs, and more, visit www.DrTraciStein.com.

(Theme song, “The Paranormal is Real,”  by Leonell Cassio, courtesy of Pixabay. Used with Permission.)

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Kathy and Traci were live at the Jersey Devil Fable Festival in Asbury Park, NJ! Our resident historian (Kathy) shed light on the origins of the Jersey Devil and shared some lesser-known facts about him. She also discussed his importance in history, to the people of NJ in general, and those in the Pine Barrens, specifically. 

We covered:

Is the Jersey Devil a cryptid? A phantom? Something else?
Should we fear or revere this creature?
Which famous figures are linked to the Jersey Devil?
How can you learn more about the Jersey Devil?

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In this first episode of Curious Explorers, veteran paranormalist and historian Kathy Kelly and psychologist Traci Stein discuss and debate, is the house next door to the infamous site of the “Manson Family” murders haunted by the victims? Or is something else going on there?

Does trauma make it more likely that spirits will haunt a site?

Can ghosts haunt two or more sites at the same time? 

Does a person’s psychology survive death?

Are spirits bound by any particular rules or laws about where they can go?

Background:

On August 9, 1969,  Charles Manson’s followers brutally murdered actress Sharon Tate and four others (Jay Sebring, Abigail Folger, Wojciech Frykowski, and Steve Parent) in a house on Cielo Drive in Los Angeles.

That house was subsequently torn down, but another house was later built on the lot next door. This house has reportedly been the site of numerous incidents of ghostly phenomena, including unnerving EVPs (electronic voice phenomena), objects moving on their own, light anomalies, unexplained temperature swings, and more. 

The house in question has also been investigated by a number of paranormal groups, including those featured on TV shows like “Ghost Hunters” and “Ghost Adventures.”

Are you curious? Join us for this inaugural episode of “Curious Explorers!” 

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(Theme song, “The Paranormal is Real,”  by Leonell Cassio)

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