We've made it to 50 episodes! To mark this milestone, Sarah and Mary Beth choose a clip from each of the three seasons of trustworthy that has stuck with them. Join this look back and be inspired to go back and listen to a previous episode that may have stuck with you! 

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When are human traditions a stumbling block and when are they tools to bring you closer to Christ and in reverence to God? This is what Sarah and Mary Beth try to discern as they chat about things like communion, clothing, creeds and other traditions that vary widely from denomination to denomination and perhaps even country to country. 

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Hear from Dawn Grieco about how God used her own recovery journey to lead her into prison ministry. Dawn shares how a prayer walk around Chester County Prison became the beginning of a decade-long calling to serve incarcerated women through Bible studies, mentorship, Celebrate Recovery, and reentry support. 

Resources Mentioned

• Healing Hearts 
• Just Mercy by Bryan Stevenson
•  New Mornings

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Sarah and Mary Beth take a deep dive into the five types of Old Testament offerings — from burnt offerings to trespass sacrifices — exploring what these ancient rituals reveal about God's holiness, our sin, and the meaning of Christ's sacrifice. 

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Meet Ashleigh Brophy, creative director of Preserve Magazine and a fellow sister in Christ that Sarah and Mary Beth have recently gotten to connect with for an uplifting conversation about the freedom that comes when we know where our faith is placed. Join us as we discuss how the Gospel is not an accessory, it is our whole life. 

Resources:

Preserve Magazine

The Preserve podcast

Preserve on Instagram

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Spring is in the air, and as gardens begin to bloom, Sarah and Mary Beth explore a deeper question: what actually lasts?

Do the small, ordinary things we do—like wiping down counters or tending a garden—matter beyond today? What about our sin? 

Through Scripture, personal reflection, and the story of Moses, this conversation challenges us to consider how our lives impact us and those around us and ripple into eternity.

Nothing done in the Lord is ever wasted.

Resources:

Breaking Free by Beth Moore - A study focused on overcoming strongholds and breaking generational patterns

Celebrate Recovery -  a safe place to find freedom from your hurts, hang-ups, and habits.

Scripture mentioned in this episode for further reflection: 

•  Ecclesiastes 3:11–15 
•  1 Corinthians 15 
•  1 Corinthians 15:58 
•  Numbers 20 
•  Galatians 6:7 
•  2 Corinthians 9:6 
•  Exodus 34 
•  Jeremiah 31 

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How and why are we called to contentment in Christ? Our friend and Willowdale Chapel Youth Pastor Sara Boninu joins us for a lively discussion on how we all struggle with contentment. But the good news is Christ provides a way toward contentment through himself. 

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How do we gain the spiritual skills to combat what we encounter in the world and our own flesh? Sarah shares in this episode the building blocks of discipleship based on 2 Peter 1. Join Mary Beth and Sarah for this walk through how to "possess these qualities in increasing measure."  

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When you pray, do you think of it more as chatting with God in relationship or as sharpening your spiritual skills as a discipline? Could it be both? Join Sarah and Mary Beth as they discuss how viewing prayer as both that personal connection to God the Father and as something we need to practice is a great tool in spiritual warfare.

Resources:

ACTS

PRAY

Screwtape Letters by CS Lewis

Practicing the Way by John Mark Comer

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Whether you grew up practicing putting on your spiritual armor each day or have never heard the term "Armor of God" explained, join Sarah and Mary Beth for a walk through the whole armor of God and how we are all encountering spiritual warfare every day, whether or not we acknowledge it. 

Resources:

Billy Graham: The Full Armor of God

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In this heartfelt roundtable discussion, four Christian moms—co-hosts Mary Beth and Sarah joined by Christine Elsen and Maggie Walker—open up about the real joys, challenges, and spiritual considerations of choosing education for their children. From long-term public school tracks to homeschooling younger children, they share personal stories, pros/cons of each path, the importance of discipleship, building community and ultimately trusting God's sovereignty over their children's futures. 

Whether you're wrestling with school decisions right now or just want encouragement as a believer raising the next generation, this episode reminds us: there's no one "perfect" educational choice, God is faithful on every path.

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Hear from Mary Beth & Sarah about their own educational backgrounds - they were not a straight line! How did that inform their families' decisions for their children's education so far? Tune in to hear about how they're navigating school and education and finding community for themselves and their children. 

Resources:

Moms in Prayer

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As the first in a group of episodes about education and how we make choices for our families, Sarah and Mary Beth chat with Tina Hammer who has been homeschooling her three children for 23 years. Tina shares her unexpected journey into homeschooling, the practical challenges and immense joys she’s experienced, the importance of community, flexibility, and creativity, and how God has guided her family through it all. Whether you're a seasoned homeschooler, considering it, or just curious, this conversation is full of encouragement, wisdom, and real-life insight.

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In this episode, Sarah introduces the concept of “Godwinks,” inspired by a Hallmark movie and the book series by SQuire Rushnell and Louise DuArt. A Godwink is defined as an astonishing event or experience of divine origin – not mere coincidence, but a signal from God, often seen as answered prayer.

We connect Godwinks to the biblical practice of raising “Ebenezers” (from 1 Samuel 7:12), physical or symbolic markers of God’s faithfulness (“Thus far the Lord has helped us”). As we share a few examples of these glimpses of grace from our own lives, we explore how recognizing both big and small moments of divine intervention – from major life decisions to everyday details – reveals God’s personal care for us. 

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Tom and Chane Hart join the podcast! Tom is an RUF campus minister at Furman University and he and Chane are parents of four, veterans of multiple cross-country moves and thoughtful leaders about Christian community. They joined us to talk about identity in Christ, orphan mentalities vs. beloved-child confidence, tiers of relationships, and why authentic community is simultaneously hard, glorious, and only a foretaste of what’s coming.

They didn't ask for this, but if you feel a prompting to support their ministry financially, you can donate here. 

Key Quotes

• “A community that forgets mission becomes a ministry machine that crushes people. A community that forgets fellowship becomes a sweet club that slowly dies.” – Tom Hart
• “Anytime we get really ruffled and upset it reveals our idols.” – Chane Hart
• “When you are not claiming ‘I am the beloved,’ you cannot walk freely in this world.” – Henri Nouwen (read by Tom)
• “I am not an orphan. Stop acting like an orphan.” – Chane’s lesson from trauma
• “Community is hard. It’s worth pursuing. And the best is yet to come.” – Tom Hart

Find them on Instagram:

@whatthehartlikes

@furmanruf

Recommended Resources Mentioned

• C.S. Lewis – Reflections on the Psalms
• Henri Nouwen – Life of the Beloved & various works
• The Bible Project / Kurt Thompson / Dan Allender / Adam Young (story work & being known)

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Hosts Sarah and Mary Beth welcome guest Denise Derr to discuss the life-changing impact of Celebrate Recovery (CR). Denise, a co-ministry leader, shares her powerful testimony of transitioning from nine years in traditional 12-step programs (AA/NA) to CR where "God doesn't waste a hurt."

Key Takeaways:

• The Missing Piece: Denise reveals that despite her sobriety, she felt something was missing—a personal relationship with Jesus Christ. She had believed she was "too damaged for God's love," a lie the enemy uses to create shame.
• The Power of Community: Denise emphasizes the confidentiality of CR that creates a safe place to share the "quiet parts out loud" without fear of interruption or judgment. This safety is vital for the painful process of "peeling back the layers" and addressing character defects.
• Transformation and Leadership: Denise shares her journey from starting CR 11 years ago, to becoming a co-ministry leader. Her story illustrates that recovery is a daily process and a continuous choice to accept God's forgiveness and be dependent on Him.
• The Ripple Effect of Hope: The episode concludes with a moving account of how CR impacted Denise's marriage, transforming her relationship with her husband, Willie, who also got involved and now serves in leadership. Her story is a message of hope, demonstrating that God can restore relationships—even leading to her granddaughter wanting a marriage "just like yours and grandpa's." 

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Inspired by the powerful stories heard at a Celebrate Recovery open house, Sarah and Mary Beth dive into the essential Christian practices of vulnerability, confession, and community. They grapple with the uncomfortable truth of what holds us back (fear, pride, shame) and share deeply personal "quiet parts" out loud, revealing struggles with self-righteousness, comparison, and deflection.

Drawing on a powerful Tim Keller quote—"To be fully known and truly loved is, well, a lot like being loved by God"—Sarah and Mary Beth discuss how real connection and healing only happen when we break down the walls we build. They challenge listeners to embrace humility, confess their sins to one another as commanded in James 5:16, and seek out confessional community for the freedom and joy found on the other side.

Key Takeaways & Resources:

• The Power of Being Known: The core human desire to be fully known and truly loved is a reflection of God's love for us.
• The First Step is Humility: Confession and vulnerability require agreeing with God about who you are: a beloved, but imperfect, sinner in need of a Savior.
• Freedom is on the Other Side: As Proverb 28:13 states, "whoever confesses and renounces [their sins] finds mercy."

Mentioned in this Episode: 

Brandon Lake's "Hard Fought Hallelujah" 

Celebrate Recovery

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In this episode of Trustworthy, Sarah and Mary Beth pour a cup and settle in for a cozy conversation about one of the most beloved “third places” in modern life: coffee shops.

From open mic nights in the 90s to driveway coffee gatherings during the pandemic, they trace how these spaces have shaped their sense of community, creativity, and connection. Along the way, they share listener reflections on what “community” really means—and how something as simple as sharing a cup of coffee can create moments of belonging, healing, and grace.

They also spotlight a few unforgettable stops from Sarah’s travels—from Blueprint Coffee Project in Sacramento to Blackbird Espresso in South Dakota—and talk about how many local coffee shops, including those started by churches and ministries, are helping people find real connection in a fast-paced world.

Whether you’re sipping a latte or chai, this episode invites you to slow down and reflect on where you’ve found community—and how you might help create it.

Resources:

Dosie Dough has been a part of the Lititz, PA community for almost 30 years! They had an outpost in Lancaster for some time, which is the one Sarah was referring to! https://dosiedough.com/about/

https://www.alabastercoffee.com Williamsport, PA

https://www.spearfishblackbird.com Spearfish, SD

​Elmisa Cafe | Rancho Bernardo Breakfast & Lunch Cafe

​blueprint coffee project

​chaddsford.coffeehouse (@chaddsford.coffeehouse)

​Local Bakery | OsoSweet | United States

Other coffee shops we have loved…

Lancaster, PA

​Square One Coffee Roasters

​Meancup Coffee -- Lancaster PA

​Cultivate Better | Copper Cup

Kennett Square

​Kennett Square Pennsylvania Coffee Shop

​Farmer & Co

​Talula's Table

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In this episode of Trustworthy, Sarah and Mary Beth continue their conversation about culture and community by interviewing Sarah's former youth group student, Lucely Tapia, whose story embodies what happens when intentional community and discipleship take root. Mary Beth and Sarah start by talking about the culture of Friday night football, where small-town spirit and shared connection come alive and then move into a heartfelt interview with Lucely who is now in college. 

This episode shows how mentorship, vulnerability, and time have transformed Sarah & Lucely's friendship into something lasting and life-giving. Through laughter, reflection, and a few tears, this conversation highlights how God uses relationships across generations to strengthen faith, deepen trust, and remind us what it means to live in true Christian community.

Resources:

The Gentle Art of Discipling Women: Nurturing Authentic Faith in Ourselves and Others

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Sarah and Mary Beth launch Season Three of Trustworthy with a look at how culture shapes community. We ask: What kind of culture helps community flourish, and how can we shape it as followers of Christ?  

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Sarah and Mary Beth had the opportunity to do a live version of the podcast with a group of women at our church. This bonus episode is full of good questions from the group gathered that evening about finding community and embracing different stages of life and seasons of change.

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Another season of trustworthy is wrapped! What did we learn this season and what are some things you may not know about us? It’s Q&A time on our Season 2 finale! 

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What does following where God leads look like? We talked with Jessica Zubrod about how being open to the small ways God leads us shape how we live and parent and work. Listen in to how we can find glory in the ordinary.

Mentioned in this episode:

Gerard Manley Hopkins poem

IF Gathering

International Justice Mission

Africa New Life

Andrew Peterson music

MomCo at Willowdale Chapel (formerly MOPS)

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We all want to be great, right? What does greatness even mean? What if a life that looks repetitive and unimpressive to the world is great for God's glory? 

Vocabulary Resources:

This week, I, Mary Beth was struggling with some words and phrases! I couldn't let the episode pass without acknowledging the correct words and meanings. 

Quelch: It is in fact a word that means squelch! (To fall or stamp on so as to crush)

Trudgery: Not a word, But trudge is, which means "to walk or march steadily and usually laboriously." Drudgery is the word I probably meant, which means "fatiguing work." 

Could care less: I fell victim to this common error! The correct phrase is "couldn't care less." 

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How can we engage the next generation of the church right now? We turned to an expert for an interview! She's in the thick of youth ministry and has wisdom to share on how to empower and engage the next generation of the church. Meet Sara Boninu. 

Resources:

Sara's sermon on keychain leadership

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Plants are growing, birds are singing, spring is here! What lessons can we learn about life, death and resurrection from the natural world around us?

Resources

Resurrection Letters - Andrew Peterson

Sing: Spring Songs - Ellie Holcomb

Doug Tallamy and Homegrown National Park

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There are a myriad of prayers our brothers and sisters have written down over the centuries that we can use in our every day to praise, confess and center our mindset on God throughout our day. We share some familiar ones and perhaps a few prayers that are new to you. 

Resources

Every Moment Holy

Book of Common Prayer (Episcopalian)

Book of Common Prayer free download (Anglican)

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Sarah reads a prayer in honor of St. Patrick and his work to bring Christianity to Ireland. 

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How do we reap what we have been sowing without it feeling like another to-do item on our list? Let's trust God's command to recount the good work He has done in our lives. 

Resources:

Poem by CT Studd

Norman Doidge 

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In a follow-up to our previous episode, this time we dig into the fruit that comes from true conviction. If we are not left to wallow in our sin, what are we to do? We look with hope to restoration.

Songs to help you along:

Look what you've done - Tasha Layton

Sunshine - Red Clay Strays

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On today's episode of Trustworthy, we talk about conviction and condemnation and how sometimes they're confused but they really do mean two different things. Mary Beth and Sarah share examples from their own lives. 

Chart for comparing condemnation and conviction

Olan Stubbs on conviction

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Material things in our life require our resources, whether time, money, energy or space. Are there some areas we could declutter? Find out what the TIDY method is - a Trustworthy podcast original approach - in this episode.

Resources:

Sample prayer to begin your TIDY process:

Dear Father of the Heavenly Lights, You are the giver of every good and perfect gift, and I thank you for blessing me with these material possessions. I confess that sometimes I allow myself to be ruled by my possessions. Please forgive me. You have promised that you will establish the work of our hands so I pray that as I spend time sorting and organizing these things that You would use that time to work in my life and in my heart. Give me wisdom as I make decisions about the things that I should keep and the things that no longer serve a purpose in my life. May this process bring you glory. You are Lord over my life, Amen.

Questions you can use as you go through your decisions:

1. Does this item or its upkeep/maintenance/use serve our family/personal mission statement.
2. Does it make my life easier or harder?
3. Is it sentimental?
4. Have i used it in last ___(amount of time)
5. Does it need to be in long term storage? (future plans or heirloom items)
6. Is it mine to give away/get rid of?
7. Is it still useful?
8. Is it triggering negative memories/feelings/thoughts?

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Do you play Wordle? We do. And we love words. But why do words matter? How do we fill our minds with good words and determine which ones aren't?

Resources:
Words the Hurt, Words that Heal
Switch on your brain - Dr. Caroline Leaf (check out her podcast here)
Thanks to Joyce Meyer for the list of truths about us from scripture.

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It's been the year of the podcast for us! We started this thing in 2024 so join us as we take a look back at some of our favorite interviews - or maybe those we imagined we did? 

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Our Christmas gift to you is an original writing by Sarah and Mary Beth (but mainly Sarah!) to help center our hearts and minds on the truth of Christmas. Merry and Happy Christmas to all!

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Advent season is upon us! How are you doing with the expectations surrounding this time of year? Hear some of our favorite Christmas traditions and how we can push back on the wrong expectations and how lessons from advent apply year-round.

Emmanuel - Ruth Chou Simons
A House with Love in It - Nat King Cole
Longwood Gardens

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Margaret Lutley is "a joyous, strong, independent, outgoing, grateful, loving, servant leader who has also faced many struggles including several bouts with breast cancer, loneliness, burnout, and living single. Margaret is unapologetically Christian and carries a deep, abiding faith in God which is apparent to all who have had the good fortune of knowing her." And we have her on the show this week! Hear her amazing story of a life well-lived; one she is still living!

Margaret's book: Joy of Serving

Margaret's Willowdale Testimony 

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It’s Thanksgiving!! Join us as we talk about this favorite holiday!!

**Sarah’s Cranberry Mandarin Sauce**

2 bags fresh cranberries, rinsed and picked over

5-7 seedless mandarins (based on size)

1/2 t Saigon Cinnamon

sugar to taste ( start with 2TBSP and go up to 1/3 c.)

pinch of sea salt

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1. Peel mandarins and add to food processor with cranberries
2. Process to desired consistency
3. Add cranberry-mandarin mixture, cinnamon and salt to medium saucepan and bring to a simmer over medium-low heat
4. Cook until dark red and bubbly. Add sugar to taste.
5. Cool and serve with your meal!

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Optional:

- Use Monkfruit, stevia or other sweeteners in place of cane sugar.
- Reserve 1/2 bag of whole cranberries to add into the saucepan in step 3 for a whole cranberry sauce.
- Adjust the amount of oranges to taste.  If you desire just plain cranberry, you could sweeten with apple juice or just add more sugar.
- Pro tip - Mix leftover cranberry sauce with a bit of Dijon mustard for a delicious spread for leftover turkey sandwiches!


Other resources :
Early Thanksgiving proclamation at Winterthur Library

A. Lincoln’s 1863 Presidential Proclamation 
 
President Abraham Lincoln's Thanksgiving Day Proclamation of October 3, 1863

By the President of the United States of America  A Proclamation.  The year that is drawing towards its close, has been filled with the blessings of fruitful fields and healthful skies. To these bounties, which are so constantly enjoyed that we are prone to forget the source from which they come, others have been added, which are of so extraordinary a nature, that they cannot fail to penetrate and soften even the heart which is habitually insensible to the ever watchful providence of Almighty God. In the midst of a civil war of unequalled magnitude and severity, which has sometimes seemed to foreign States to invite and to provide aggressions, peace has been preserved with all nations, order has been maintained, the laws have been respected and obeyed, and harmony has prevailed everywhere except in the theatre of military conflict; while that theatre has been greatly contracted by the advancing armies and navies of the Union. Needful diversions of wealth and of strength from the fields of peaceful industry to the national defence, have not arrested the plough, the shuttle or the ship; the axe has enlarged the borders of our settlements, and the mines, as well of iron and coal as of the precious metals, have yielded even more abundantly than heretofore. Population has steadily increased, notwithstanding the waste that has been made in the camp, the siege and the battle-field; and the country, rejoicing in the consciousness of augmented strength and vigor, is permitted to expect continuance of years with large increase of freedom. No human counsel hath devised nor hath any mortal hand worked out these great things. They are the gracious gifts of the Most High God, who, while dealing with us in anger for our sins, hath nevertheless remembered mercy. It has seemed to me fit and proper that they should be solemnly, reverently and gratefully acknowledged as with one heart and one voice by the whole American People. I do therefore invite my fellow citizens in every part of the United States, and also those who are at sea and those who are sojourning in foreign lands, to set apart and observe the last Thursday of November next, as a day of Thanksgiving and Praise to our beneficent Father who dwelleth in the Heavens. And I recommend to them that while offering up the ascriptions justly due to Him for such singu

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Why do we need community and what makes Christian community distinctive? We can all attest to times when the presence or absence of Christ-centered community has impacted us. Let's dig in to find out why it makes a difference.

Made For People by Justin Whitmel Earley (apologies to Justin for not getting his name right in this episode!)
Life Together by Dietrich Bonhoeffer
The Center for Being Known - Curt Thompson

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It's our first guest! Leslie Thomas joins us for this episode to discuss grief and the ways Jesus has met her and her family and shifted her worldview following the death of her oldest child. It is vulnerable and hopeful and we are so glad she chatted with us.

Resources:
Mitch and Leslie's website
Kate Bowler on Instagram

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Fall is in the air! The change of seasons can be wonderful, but sometimes the change of life seasons can be a struggle. We're chatting about everything from pumpkin spice to feeling unprepared for a new life season.

Mentioned in this episode:
Trey Kennedy's 2023 "Girls during fall be like" video

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Ever been convinced you knew the words to a song only to come to find out you got it very wrong? If you haven’t, you’re better than we are, but you might get a kick out of hearing some misheard lyrics in this episode. And you know we’re going to make a deeper connection to other things we may mishear. It’s Season Two and were back! 

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It's the final episode of Season 1 and we're answering your questions! Join us as we tackle a variety of inquiries and wrap up our first ever podcast season.

Resources:
The Gray Havens - See You Again
Desiring God by John Piper
John Mark Comer
Tim Keller
The Practice of the Presence of God by Brother Lawrence 

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Are you a personality quiz nerd like us? This week we share each other’s Strengthsfinder results and discuss how God makes each of us with our own personalities and strengths.

Resources:

Self assessments:

Clifton Strengthsfinder

Myers Briggs assessment

Enneagram test

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Other:

Words that Hurt, Words that Heal

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Who is this God that we claim is trustworthy? We've talked about how he has shown up for us, but who is he? What is he like? In this episode we share how we know who God is - through scripture, through others and through our own relationship with him.

Resources:
From Mary Beth:
New City Catechism: 
Question: What is God? 
Answer: God is the creator and sustainer of everyone and everything. He is eternal, infinite, and unchangeable in his power and perfection, goodness and glory, wisdom, justice, and truth.

From Sarah:
Rich Mullins song “Creed”

"And I believe what I believe is what makes me what I am
I did not make it, no it is making me
It is the very truth of God and not the invention of any man"

Sarah’s theological background: Confession of Faith in a Mennonite Perspective (1995)

Tis so Sweet to Trust in Jesus 
I’m so glad I learned to trust Thee,
Precious Jesus, Savior, Friend;
And I know that Thou art with me,
Wilt be with me to the end. 

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We are called to be hospitable, so how do we stop relying on ourselves and trust God with hospitality? Tune in for thoughts as well as some hospitality tips this week.

Mentioned resources:

Rosario Butterfield - The Gospel Comes with a House Key

Study from NIH - Breaking Bread: the Functions of Social Eating

Study from Cornell University - Eating Together at the Firehouse: How Workplace Commensality Relates to the Performance of Firefighters

Business News Daily - How Eating Together Benefits Co-Workers

John Mark Comer/Practicing the Way - Eating and Drinking - Practicing the Way

National Day Calendar

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Did you ever feel like you let yourself down?  You're not alone!  Today we talk about where to turn when we disappoint ourselves or others.

Curt Thompson, MD

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It’s Part 2 of our conversation on work: How God has fulfilled us in our work, how motherhood has shaped our view of work, and we come back at the end for some thoughts on work as a single woman as well.

New Morning Mercies by Paul David Tripp 

A Psalm of Life by Henry Wadsworth Longfellow

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Work! We’re all made for it, but it takes on many forms and can change for a variety of reasons. In Part 1, we discuss our own career histories, the major life transitions that altered our careers and the challenges that came with that.

When You're Feeling Small - Willowdale Women

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It’s our first podcast episode ever! (And we stop in from the future to say hello!) Get to know us a little bit as we discuss what it means to be able to trust God with who we are, knowing that he can handle whatever questions we throw at him. Ponder the question with us - Is God trustworthy?

Resources: 

What to do when we mishear the lyrics :Mary Beth's Blog Post

Ethics : Ethics by Dietrich Bonhoeffer

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