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    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Send us Fan Mail King Kong, the Eighth Wonder of the World, has lived so many lives across movies and theme parks. We follow Kong from the 1933 classic to the attractions that helped Universal Studios evolve from a tour into a destination, to the surprising story of how King Kong vs. Godzilla finally did the monster's creator in.  Most importantly, even those who think they know everything possible about the 1933 R.K.O. classic will be amazed by Pete's deep dive into the movie's origins and t...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/2335588/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>King Kong, the Eighth Wonder of the World, has lived so many lives across movies and theme parks. We follow Kong from the 1933 classic to the attractions that helped Universal Studios evolve from a tour into a destination, to the surprising story of how King Kong vs. Godzilla finally did the monster&apos;s creator in.<br/><br/>Most importantly, even those who think they know everything possible about the 1933 R.K.O. classic will be amazed by Pete&apos;s deep dive into the movie&apos;s origins and the astonishing story of the creative force behind the story: Ruth Rose.<br/><br/>Then we hit the theme park turning points: Hollywood’s King Kong Encounter with Bob Gurr, Jay Stein, and Henry Bumstead, including the bridge shake illusion, the close-up animatronic terror, and the legendary banana breath effect. We compare it to Florida’s Kongfrontation, a bigger, riskier swing with gondolas, two Kongs, timing challenges, and opening-day chaos. We also revisit the 2008 Universal Studios fire, the shift toward screen-based replacements like Kong 360 3D, and Skull Island: Reign of Kong.<br/><br/>What Jaws did for Universal in the &apos;70s, Kong did in the &apos;80s. Join us as we celebrate the legend of the greatest of the giant monsters, King Kong.</p><p>Thanks for listening!<br/><br/>We&apos;d love it if you would give us a review on your podcast platform of choice: iTunes, Spotify, etc... They&apos;re really helpful.</p><p><br/>And get in touch and let us know about YOUR Plus-Ups for the attractions we&apos;ve talked about!  We&apos;d love to tell them on the air.<br/><br/>Come visit us on <a href='https://bsky.app/profile/lowdown-plus-up.bsky.social'>Bluesky</a>, Mastodon, <a href='https://www.instagram.com/lowdownplusup/'>Instagram</a>, or whatever social media you like. Just look up Lowdown on the Plus-Up and you&apos;ll probably find us.  Or drop us a note to comments@lowdown-plus-up.com and let us know any questions or comments about how YOU would like to plus-something-up!<br/> <br/>We are a Boardwalk Times production.<br/>Boardwalk Times, https://boardwalktimes.net/<br/>Boardwalk Times store, https://boardwalktimes.store .<br/><br/></p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/2335588/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>King Kong, the Eighth Wonder of the World, has lived so many lives across movies and theme parks. We follow Kong from the 1933 classic to the attractions that helped Universal Studios evolve from a tour into a destination, to the surprising story of how King Kong vs. Godzilla finally did the monster&apos;s creator in.<br/><br/>Most importantly, even those who think they know everything possible about the 1933 R.K.O. classic will be amazed by Pete&apos;s deep dive into the movie&apos;s origins and the astonishing story of the creative force behind the story: Ruth Rose.<br/><br/>Then we hit the theme park turning points: Hollywood’s King Kong Encounter with Bob Gurr, Jay Stein, and Henry Bumstead, including the bridge shake illusion, the close-up animatronic terror, and the legendary banana breath effect. We compare it to Florida’s Kongfrontation, a bigger, riskier swing with gondolas, two Kongs, timing challenges, and opening-day chaos. We also revisit the 2008 Universal Studios fire, the shift toward screen-based replacements like Kong 360 3D, and Skull Island: Reign of Kong.<br/><br/>What Jaws did for Universal in the &apos;70s, Kong did in the &apos;80s. Join us as we celebrate the legend of the greatest of the giant monsters, King Kong.</p><p>Thanks for listening!<br/><br/>We&apos;d love it if you would give us a review on your podcast platform of choice: iTunes, Spotify, etc... They&apos;re really helpful.</p><p><br/>And get in touch and let us know about YOUR Plus-Ups for the attractions we&apos;ve talked about!  We&apos;d love to tell them on the air.<br/><br/>Come visit us on <a href='https://bsky.app/profile/lowdown-plus-up.bsky.social'>Bluesky</a>, Mastodon, <a href='https://www.instagram.com/lowdownplusup/'>Instagram</a>, or whatever social media you like. Just look up Lowdown on the Plus-Up and you&apos;ll probably find us.  Or drop us a note to comments@lowdown-plus-up.com and let us know any questions or comments about how YOU would like to plus-something-up!<br/> <br/>We are a Boardwalk Times production.<br/>Boardwalk Times, https://boardwalktimes.net/<br/>Boardwalk Times store, https://boardwalktimes.store .<br/><br/></p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <itunes:title>Randotti Skulls - The Disneyland Souvenir That Doubled As A Bludgeon</itunes:title>
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    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Send us Fan Mail A three-pound glow-in-the-dark skull from Disneyland sounds like a joke until you realize it was real, widely sold, and now weirdly hard to find. We’re talking about Randotti skulls: handmade chalkware souvenirs that once hung from hot rod mirrors, lit up under Haunted Mansion blacklights, and gave Adventureland and Pirates of the Caribbean shops a darker edge than you’d ever expect from a theme park aisle.   If you love Disneyland history, vintage theme park souvenirs, ...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/2335588/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>A three-pound glow-in-the-dark skull from Disneyland sounds like a joke until you realize it was real, widely sold, and now weirdly hard to find. We’re talking about Randotti skulls: handmade chalkware souvenirs that once hung from hot rod mirrors, lit up under Haunted Mansion blacklights, and gave Adventureland and Pirates of the Caribbean shops a darker edge than you’d ever expect from a theme park aisle. <br/><br/>If you love Disneyland history, vintage theme park souvenirs, Adventureland tiki culture, or Disney nostalgia collecting, hit play, then subscribe, share the show with a friend, and leave us a review so more park nerds can find us.</p><p>Thanks for listening!<br/><br/>We&apos;d love it if you would give us a review on your podcast platform of choice: iTunes, Spotify, etc... They&apos;re really helpful.</p><p><br/>And get in touch and let us know about YOUR Plus-Ups for the attractions we&apos;ve talked about!  We&apos;d love to tell them on the air.<br/><br/>Come visit us on <a href='https://bsky.app/profile/lowdown-plus-up.bsky.social'>Bluesky</a>, Mastodon, <a href='https://www.instagram.com/lowdownplusup/'>Instagram</a>, or whatever social media you like. Just look up Lowdown on the Plus-Up and you&apos;ll probably find us.  Or drop us a note to comments@lowdown-plus-up.com and let us know any questions or comments about how YOU would like to plus-something-up!<br/> <br/>We are a Boardwalk Times production.<br/>Boardwalk Times, https://boardwalktimes.net/<br/>Boardwalk Times store, https://boardwalktimes.store .<br/><br/></p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/2335588/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>A three-pound glow-in-the-dark skull from Disneyland sounds like a joke until you realize it was real, widely sold, and now weirdly hard to find. We’re talking about Randotti skulls: handmade chalkware souvenirs that once hung from hot rod mirrors, lit up under Haunted Mansion blacklights, and gave Adventureland and Pirates of the Caribbean shops a darker edge than you’d ever expect from a theme park aisle. <br/><br/>If you love Disneyland history, vintage theme park souvenirs, Adventureland tiki culture, or Disney nostalgia collecting, hit play, then subscribe, share the show with a friend, and leave us a review so more park nerds can find us.</p><p>Thanks for listening!<br/><br/>We&apos;d love it if you would give us a review on your podcast platform of choice: iTunes, Spotify, etc... They&apos;re really helpful.</p><p><br/>And get in touch and let us know about YOUR Plus-Ups for the attractions we&apos;ve talked about!  We&apos;d love to tell them on the air.<br/><br/>Come visit us on <a href='https://bsky.app/profile/lowdown-plus-up.bsky.social'>Bluesky</a>, Mastodon, <a href='https://www.instagram.com/lowdownplusup/'>Instagram</a>, or whatever social media you like. Just look up Lowdown on the Plus-Up and you&apos;ll probably find us.  Or drop us a note to comments@lowdown-plus-up.com and let us know any questions or comments about how YOU would like to plus-something-up!<br/> <br/>We are a Boardwalk Times production.<br/>Boardwalk Times, https://boardwalktimes.net/<br/>Boardwalk Times store, https://boardwalktimes.store .<br/><br/></p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Send us Fan Mail A giant boulder looms, your jeep “panics,” and somehow you leave feeling like you just lived a 1920s Republic serial on steroids!  We trace how Indiana Jones is born from the language of movie serials and classic adventure cinema, then follow that thread straight into Disney Imagineering. We saw Imagineer Tony Baxter give a lecture on this attraction last week and his fingerprints are everywhere here: environmental storytelling, practical effects that feel physical, and a rid...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/2335588/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>A giant boulder looms, your jeep “panics,” and somehow you leave feeling like you just lived a 1920s Republic serial on steroids!<br/><br/>We trace how Indiana Jones is born from the language of movie serials and classic adventure cinema, then follow that thread straight into Disney Imagineering. We saw Imagineer Tony Baxter give a lecture on this attraction last week and his fingerprints are everywhere here: environmental storytelling, practical effects that feel physical, and a ride vehicle design that turns a machine into a character. We also talk about the bigger Disney parks shift toward licensed IP, why Star Tours opens the door, and how Indy becomes the proof that a non Disney story can still feel like Disneyland if the craft is right.<br/><br/>Then we get nerdy about mechanics: Enhanced Motion Vehicles, Maraglyphics decoder cards, the best ride queue ever, and the effects now lost to Disneyland&apos;s technical debt. We also share the behind the scenes drama that shaped Indy’s voice and likeness, plus our patented plus-ups!<br/><br/>Listen now, then subscribe, share with a fellow park nerd, and leave a review if you want more deep dives like this. What’s the one Indiana Jones Adventure effect you’d bring back first?</p><p>Thanks for listening!<br/><br/>We&apos;d love it if you would give us a review on your podcast platform of choice: iTunes, Spotify, etc... They&apos;re really helpful.</p><p><br/>And get in touch and let us know about YOUR Plus-Ups for the attractions we&apos;ve talked about!  We&apos;d love to tell them on the air.<br/><br/>Come visit us on <a href='https://bsky.app/profile/lowdown-plus-up.bsky.social'>Bluesky</a>, Mastodon, <a href='https://www.instagram.com/lowdownplusup/'>Instagram</a>, or whatever social media you like. Just look up Lowdown on the Plus-Up and you&apos;ll probably find us.  Or drop us a note to comments@lowdown-plus-up.com and let us know any questions or comments about how YOU would like to plus-something-up!<br/> <br/>We are a Boardwalk Times production.<br/>Boardwalk Times, https://boardwalktimes.net/<br/>Boardwalk Times store, https://boardwalktimes.store .<br/><br/></p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/2335588/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>A giant boulder looms, your jeep “panics,” and somehow you leave feeling like you just lived a 1920s Republic serial on steroids!<br/><br/>We trace how Indiana Jones is born from the language of movie serials and classic adventure cinema, then follow that thread straight into Disney Imagineering. We saw Imagineer Tony Baxter give a lecture on this attraction last week and his fingerprints are everywhere here: environmental storytelling, practical effects that feel physical, and a ride vehicle design that turns a machine into a character. We also talk about the bigger Disney parks shift toward licensed IP, why Star Tours opens the door, and how Indy becomes the proof that a non Disney story can still feel like Disneyland if the craft is right.<br/><br/>Then we get nerdy about mechanics: Enhanced Motion Vehicles, Maraglyphics decoder cards, the best ride queue ever, and the effects now lost to Disneyland&apos;s technical debt. We also share the behind the scenes drama that shaped Indy’s voice and likeness, plus our patented plus-ups!<br/><br/>Listen now, then subscribe, share with a fellow park nerd, and leave a review if you want more deep dives like this. What’s the one Indiana Jones Adventure effect you’d bring back first?</p><p>Thanks for listening!<br/><br/>We&apos;d love it if you would give us a review on your podcast platform of choice: iTunes, Spotify, etc... They&apos;re really helpful.</p><p><br/>And get in touch and let us know about YOUR Plus-Ups for the attractions we&apos;ve talked about!  We&apos;d love to tell them on the air.<br/><br/>Come visit us on <a href='https://bsky.app/profile/lowdown-plus-up.bsky.social'>Bluesky</a>, Mastodon, <a href='https://www.instagram.com/lowdownplusup/'>Instagram</a>, or whatever social media you like. Just look up Lowdown on the Plus-Up and you&apos;ll probably find us.  Or drop us a note to comments@lowdown-plus-up.com and let us know any questions or comments about how YOU would like to plus-something-up!<br/> <br/>We are a Boardwalk Times production.<br/>Boardwalk Times, https://boardwalktimes.net/<br/>Boardwalk Times store, https://boardwalktimes.store .<br/><br/></p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Send us Fan Mail Something is quietly disappearing inside Disneyland, and it isn’t a single ride. It’s the feeling of Walt Disney himself: the founder's fingerprints, the hand-crafted oddities, and the design choices that made Anaheim’s original park feel like a living, ebullient, organism.  We take a thoughtful walk through Disneyland history and ask a focused question: what is actually left of Walt? We talk about how the man used to be omnipresent in the park, why that kind of creator prese...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/2335588/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>Something is quietly disappearing inside Disneyland, and it isn’t a single ride. It’s the feeling of Walt Disney himself: the founder&apos;s fingerprints, the hand-crafted oddities, and the design choices that made Anaheim’s original park feel like a living, ebullient, organism.<br/><br/>We take a thoughtful walk through Disneyland history and ask a focused question: what is actually left of Walt? We talk about how the man used to be omnipresent in the park, why that kind of creator presence still matters to Disney adults across generations, and how it might be aa little tougher, but he&apos;s still there... if you know where to look.</p><p>In this short episode, Kelly and Pete speak from the heart, and get a little melancholy.</p><p>Hey, we&apos;re human!</p><p>Thanks for listening!<br/><br/>We&apos;d love it if you would give us a review on your podcast platform of choice: iTunes, Spotify, etc... They&apos;re really helpful.</p><p><br/>And get in touch and let us know about YOUR Plus-Ups for the attractions we&apos;ve talked about!  We&apos;d love to tell them on the air.<br/><br/>Come visit us on <a href='https://bsky.app/profile/lowdown-plus-up.bsky.social'>Bluesky</a>, Mastodon, <a href='https://www.instagram.com/lowdownplusup/'>Instagram</a>, or whatever social media you like. Just look up Lowdown on the Plus-Up and you&apos;ll probably find us.  Or drop us a note to comments@lowdown-plus-up.com and let us know any questions or comments about how YOU would like to plus-something-up!<br/> <br/>We are a Boardwalk Times production.<br/>Boardwalk Times, https://boardwalktimes.net/<br/>Boardwalk Times store, https://boardwalktimes.store .<br/><br/></p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/2335588/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>Something is quietly disappearing inside Disneyland, and it isn’t a single ride. It’s the feeling of Walt Disney himself: the founder&apos;s fingerprints, the hand-crafted oddities, and the design choices that made Anaheim’s original park feel like a living, ebullient, organism.<br/><br/>We take a thoughtful walk through Disneyland history and ask a focused question: what is actually left of Walt? We talk about how the man used to be omnipresent in the park, why that kind of creator presence still matters to Disney adults across generations, and how it might be aa little tougher, but he&apos;s still there... if you know where to look.</p><p>In this short episode, Kelly and Pete speak from the heart, and get a little melancholy.</p><p>Hey, we&apos;re human!</p><p>Thanks for listening!<br/><br/>We&apos;d love it if you would give us a review on your podcast platform of choice: iTunes, Spotify, etc... They&apos;re really helpful.</p><p><br/>And get in touch and let us know about YOUR Plus-Ups for the attractions we&apos;ve talked about!  We&apos;d love to tell them on the air.<br/><br/>Come visit us on <a href='https://bsky.app/profile/lowdown-plus-up.bsky.social'>Bluesky</a>, Mastodon, <a href='https://www.instagram.com/lowdownplusup/'>Instagram</a>, or whatever social media you like. Just look up Lowdown on the Plus-Up and you&apos;ll probably find us.  Or drop us a note to comments@lowdown-plus-up.com and let us know any questions or comments about how YOU would like to plus-something-up!<br/> <br/>We are a Boardwalk Times production.<br/>Boardwalk Times, https://boardwalktimes.net/<br/>Boardwalk Times store, https://boardwalktimes.store .<br/><br/></p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <itunes:title>Big Thunder Mountain - The Mine Train that Ran Away from History</itunes:title>
    <title>Big Thunder Mountain - The Mine Train that Ran Away from History</title>
    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Send us Fan Mail Big Thunder Mountain Railroad feels like pure fun: a runaway mine train, a mountain of red rock, and a few perfect sight gags that hit at 35 miles an hour. But the ride’s real story starts way earlier, in the myths America told itself about the frontier and the Western movies that turned those myths into pop culture. We follow that thread from Frederick Jackson Turner’s famous frontier thesis to how Walt Disney shaped his original Frontierland into something that resembles ac...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/2335588/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>Big Thunder Mountain Railroad feels like pure fun: a runaway mine train, a mountain of red rock, and a few perfect sight gags that hit at 35 miles an hour. But the ride’s real story starts way earlier, in the myths America told itself about the frontier and the Western movies that turned those myths into pop culture. We follow that thread from Frederick Jackson Turner’s famous frontier thesis to how Walt Disney shaped his original Frontierland into something that resembles actual history.<br/><br/>Then things get messy. Mark Davis’ fingerprints are all over Disney&apos;s greatest achievements and in the late-&apos;60s he began designing his theme park masterpiece: Thunder Mesa and the Western River Expedition. And that&apos;s when things start to go wrong.<br/><br/>But from the wreckage of the project emerged one of Disney&apos;s greatest attractions: Big Thunder Mountain Railroad - the only ride that can actually be prescribed by a Doctor as a cure for kidney stones.<br/><br/>If you love Disney history, theme park design, Imagineering legends, or just want to ride Big Thunder with smarter eyes, hit play. Subscribe, share the episode with a fellow parks nerd, and leave a review with your best Big Thunder plus-up idea.</p><p>Thanks for listening!<br/><br/>We&apos;d love it if you would give us a review on your podcast platform of choice: iTunes, Spotify, etc... They&apos;re really helpful.</p><p><br/>And get in touch and let us know about YOUR Plus-Ups for the attractions we&apos;ve talked about!  We&apos;d love to tell them on the air.<br/><br/>Come visit us on <a href='https://bsky.app/profile/lowdown-plus-up.bsky.social'>Bluesky</a>, Mastodon, <a href='https://www.instagram.com/lowdownplusup/'>Instagram</a>, or whatever social media you like. Just look up Lowdown on the Plus-Up and you&apos;ll probably find us.  Or drop us a note to comments@lowdown-plus-up.com and let us know any questions or comments about how YOU would like to plus-something-up!<br/> <br/>We are a Boardwalk Times production.<br/>Boardwalk Times, https://boardwalktimes.net/<br/>Boardwalk Times store, https://boardwalktimes.store .<br/><br/></p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/2335588/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>Big Thunder Mountain Railroad feels like pure fun: a runaway mine train, a mountain of red rock, and a few perfect sight gags that hit at 35 miles an hour. But the ride’s real story starts way earlier, in the myths America told itself about the frontier and the Western movies that turned those myths into pop culture. We follow that thread from Frederick Jackson Turner’s famous frontier thesis to how Walt Disney shaped his original Frontierland into something that resembles actual history.<br/><br/>Then things get messy. Mark Davis’ fingerprints are all over Disney&apos;s greatest achievements and in the late-&apos;60s he began designing his theme park masterpiece: Thunder Mesa and the Western River Expedition. And that&apos;s when things start to go wrong.<br/><br/>But from the wreckage of the project emerged one of Disney&apos;s greatest attractions: Big Thunder Mountain Railroad - the only ride that can actually be prescribed by a Doctor as a cure for kidney stones.<br/><br/>If you love Disney history, theme park design, Imagineering legends, or just want to ride Big Thunder with smarter eyes, hit play. Subscribe, share the episode with a fellow parks nerd, and leave a review with your best Big Thunder plus-up idea.</p><p>Thanks for listening!<br/><br/>We&apos;d love it if you would give us a review on your podcast platform of choice: iTunes, Spotify, etc... They&apos;re really helpful.</p><p><br/>And get in touch and let us know about YOUR Plus-Ups for the attractions we&apos;ve talked about!  We&apos;d love to tell them on the air.<br/><br/>Come visit us on <a href='https://bsky.app/profile/lowdown-plus-up.bsky.social'>Bluesky</a>, Mastodon, <a href='https://www.instagram.com/lowdownplusup/'>Instagram</a>, or whatever social media you like. Just look up Lowdown on the Plus-Up and you&apos;ll probably find us.  Or drop us a note to comments@lowdown-plus-up.com and let us know any questions or comments about how YOU would like to plus-something-up!<br/> <br/>We are a Boardwalk Times production.<br/>Boardwalk Times, https://boardwalktimes.net/<br/>Boardwalk Times store, https://boardwalktimes.store .<br/><br/></p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <pubDate>Sat, 21 Mar 2026 12:00:00 -0700</pubDate>
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    <itunes:title>Roger Tofte and The Handmade Magic Of Oregon’s Enchanted Forest</itunes:title>
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    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Send us Fan Mail Start with a finish-line smile and a hand-built castle. We open by honoring Jeff Galloway—the Olympian and Run-Walk-Run mentor whose you can do it turned marathons into memories for everyday runners—then spend most of this short episode saluting another architect of joy: Roger Tofte, the craftsman behind Oregon’s Enchanted Forest.  Roger was a draftsman, sign maker, and watch repairer who saw a quiet forest near Salem and imagined a fairy tale carved into concrete and trees. ...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/2335588/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>Start with a finish-line smile and a hand-built castle. We open by honoring Jeff Galloway—the Olympian and Run-Walk-Run mentor whose you can do it turned marathons into memories for everyday runners—then spend most of this short episode saluting another architect of joy: Roger Tofte, the craftsman behind Oregon’s Enchanted Forest.</p><p><br/>Roger was a draftsman, sign maker, and watch repairer who saw a quiet forest near Salem and imagined a fairy tale carved into concrete and trees. He bought twenty acres on a shoestring, spent seven years shaping Storybook Lane by hand, and opened with a butcher-paper sign.<br/><br/>We celebrate Roger’s life at ninety-six and the ongoing stewardship of his family, who still run the park with the same hands-on care. If you’re mapping an Oregon road trip, looking for family-friendly attractions near Salem, or chasing the charm of indie amusement parks, this story is your guide to what handmade wonder looks like—and why it endures. Press play, then share this with someone who loves small, magical places.</p><p>Two great men have passed. We were so lucky to share the planet with them.</p><p>Thanks for listening!<br/><br/>We&apos;d love it if you would give us a review on your podcast platform of choice: iTunes, Spotify, etc... They&apos;re really helpful.</p><p><br/>And get in touch and let us know about YOUR Plus-Ups for the attractions we&apos;ve talked about!  We&apos;d love to tell them on the air.<br/><br/>Come visit us on <a href='https://bsky.app/profile/lowdown-plus-up.bsky.social'>Bluesky</a>, Mastodon, <a href='https://www.instagram.com/lowdownplusup/'>Instagram</a>, or whatever social media you like. Just look up Lowdown on the Plus-Up and you&apos;ll probably find us.  Or drop us a note to comments@lowdown-plus-up.com and let us know any questions or comments about how YOU would like to plus-something-up!<br/> <br/>We are a Boardwalk Times production.<br/>Boardwalk Times, https://boardwalktimes.net/<br/>Boardwalk Times store, https://boardwalktimes.store .<br/><br/></p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/2335588/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>Start with a finish-line smile and a hand-built castle. We open by honoring Jeff Galloway—the Olympian and Run-Walk-Run mentor whose you can do it turned marathons into memories for everyday runners—then spend most of this short episode saluting another architect of joy: Roger Tofte, the craftsman behind Oregon’s Enchanted Forest.</p><p><br/>Roger was a draftsman, sign maker, and watch repairer who saw a quiet forest near Salem and imagined a fairy tale carved into concrete and trees. He bought twenty acres on a shoestring, spent seven years shaping Storybook Lane by hand, and opened with a butcher-paper sign.<br/><br/>We celebrate Roger’s life at ninety-six and the ongoing stewardship of his family, who still run the park with the same hands-on care. If you’re mapping an Oregon road trip, looking for family-friendly attractions near Salem, or chasing the charm of indie amusement parks, this story is your guide to what handmade wonder looks like—and why it endures. Press play, then share this with someone who loves small, magical places.</p><p>Two great men have passed. We were so lucky to share the planet with them.</p><p>Thanks for listening!<br/><br/>We&apos;d love it if you would give us a review on your podcast platform of choice: iTunes, Spotify, etc... They&apos;re really helpful.</p><p><br/>And get in touch and let us know about YOUR Plus-Ups for the attractions we&apos;ve talked about!  We&apos;d love to tell them on the air.<br/><br/>Come visit us on <a href='https://bsky.app/profile/lowdown-plus-up.bsky.social'>Bluesky</a>, Mastodon, <a href='https://www.instagram.com/lowdownplusup/'>Instagram</a>, or whatever social media you like. Just look up Lowdown on the Plus-Up and you&apos;ll probably find us.  Or drop us a note to comments@lowdown-plus-up.com and let us know any questions or comments about how YOU would like to plus-something-up!<br/> <br/>We are a Boardwalk Times production.<br/>Boardwalk Times, https://boardwalktimes.net/<br/>Boardwalk Times store, https://boardwalktimes.store .<br/><br/></p>]]></content:encoded>
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  <psc:chapter start="4:10" title="Buying Land And A Big Idea" />
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    <itunes:title>Ghosts Of Playland At The Beach - The Amusement Park at the End of the West</itunes:title>
    <title>Ghosts Of Playland At The Beach - The Amusement Park at the End of the West</title>
    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Send us Fan Mail The fog rolls in, the surf pounds the seawall, and a laugh echoes across the Sunset—Playland at the Beach is gone, but its spirit refuses to fade. We head back to San Francisco’s Ocean Beach to unpack a park that was equal parts wonder and chaos: the glassy grandeur of Sutro Baths, the Cliff House’s many lives, and a bohemian streetcar village that set the stage for a century of seaside amusements. From Charles I. D. Looff’s menagerie carousel to the towering Big Dipper and t...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/2335588/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>The fog rolls in, the surf pounds the seawall, and a laugh echoes across the Sunset—Playland at the Beach is gone, but its spirit refuses to fade. We head back to San Francisco’s Ocean Beach to unpack a park that was equal parts wonder and chaos: the glassy grandeur of Sutro Baths, the Cliff House’s many lives, and a bohemian streetcar village that set the stage for a century of seaside amusements. From Charles I. D. Looff’s menagerie carousel to the towering Big Dipper and the splash-happy Chutes at the Beach, this was the wild west of parks as far west as you could go.</p><p>Our old friend Laurie Hollings (Frontier Village) makes a return appearance to the show.<br/><br/>Laughing Sal cackles relentlessly, Orson Welles&apos; shatters mirrors, and one of the first Disney Imagineers invents Woody the cowboy... in San Francisco... a half century early.<br/><br/>Join us as we stroll along one of the most beautiful and daunting places in America, San Francisco&apos;s Ocean Beach, and we try to find traces of the park that lived there for most of the 20th Century: Playland-at-the-Beach.</p><p>-------------------------------------------------------<br/><br/>If this history hit you in the nostalgia, subscribe, share with a friend who loves old-school amusement parks, and leave a review. What artifact or ride would you bring back to a hands-on Playland museum? We’d love to hear your ideas.</p><p>Thanks for listening!<br/><br/>We&apos;d love it if you would give us a review on your podcast platform of choice: iTunes, Spotify, etc... They&apos;re really helpful.</p><p><br/>And get in touch and let us know about YOUR Plus-Ups for the attractions we&apos;ve talked about!  We&apos;d love to tell them on the air.<br/><br/>Come visit us on <a href='https://bsky.app/profile/lowdown-plus-up.bsky.social'>Bluesky</a>, Mastodon, <a href='https://www.instagram.com/lowdownplusup/'>Instagram</a>, or whatever social media you like. Just look up Lowdown on the Plus-Up and you&apos;ll probably find us.  Or drop us a note to comments@lowdown-plus-up.com and let us know any questions or comments about how YOU would like to plus-something-up!<br/> <br/>We are a Boardwalk Times production.<br/>Boardwalk Times, https://boardwalktimes.net/<br/>Boardwalk Times store, https://boardwalktimes.store .<br/><br/></p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/2335588/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>The fog rolls in, the surf pounds the seawall, and a laugh echoes across the Sunset—Playland at the Beach is gone, but its spirit refuses to fade. We head back to San Francisco’s Ocean Beach to unpack a park that was equal parts wonder and chaos: the glassy grandeur of Sutro Baths, the Cliff House’s many lives, and a bohemian streetcar village that set the stage for a century of seaside amusements. From Charles I. D. Looff’s menagerie carousel to the towering Big Dipper and the splash-happy Chutes at the Beach, this was the wild west of parks as far west as you could go.</p><p>Our old friend Laurie Hollings (Frontier Village) makes a return appearance to the show.<br/><br/>Laughing Sal cackles relentlessly, Orson Welles&apos; shatters mirrors, and one of the first Disney Imagineers invents Woody the cowboy... in San Francisco... a half century early.<br/><br/>Join us as we stroll along one of the most beautiful and daunting places in America, San Francisco&apos;s Ocean Beach, and we try to find traces of the park that lived there for most of the 20th Century: Playland-at-the-Beach.</p><p>-------------------------------------------------------<br/><br/>If this history hit you in the nostalgia, subscribe, share with a friend who loves old-school amusement parks, and leave a review. What artifact or ride would you bring back to a hands-on Playland museum? We’d love to hear your ideas.</p><p>Thanks for listening!<br/><br/>We&apos;d love it if you would give us a review on your podcast platform of choice: iTunes, Spotify, etc... They&apos;re really helpful.</p><p><br/>And get in touch and let us know about YOUR Plus-Ups for the attractions we&apos;ve talked about!  We&apos;d love to tell them on the air.<br/><br/>Come visit us on <a href='https://bsky.app/profile/lowdown-plus-up.bsky.social'>Bluesky</a>, Mastodon, <a href='https://www.instagram.com/lowdownplusup/'>Instagram</a>, or whatever social media you like. Just look up Lowdown on the Plus-Up and you&apos;ll probably find us.  Or drop us a note to comments@lowdown-plus-up.com and let us know any questions or comments about how YOU would like to plus-something-up!<br/> <br/>We are a Boardwalk Times production.<br/>Boardwalk Times, https://boardwalktimes.net/<br/>Boardwalk Times store, https://boardwalktimes.store .<br/><br/></p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <itunes:title>This Hidden River Is Disneyland’s Quiet Magic | Lowdown on the Plus-Up</itunes:title>
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    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Send us Fan Mail EPISODE SUMMARY The most powerful special effect at Disneyland isn’t a projection or a firework. It’s water—dyed, pumped, and choreographed to keep illusions seamless, landscapes lush, and guests grounded.  In this episode, Kelly and Pete unravel the surprising, ingenious, and deeply odd engineering behind one of Disneyland’s most overlooked systems: the park-wide dark water network that connects Storybook Land, the Motorboat Cruise, the Snow White Grotto, the Adventurel...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/2335588/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>EPISODE SUMMARY</p><p>The most powerful special effect at Disneyland isn’t a projection or a firework. It’s water—dyed, pumped, and choreographed to keep illusions seamless, landscapes lush, and guests grounded. </p><p>In this episode, Kelly and Pete unravel the surprising, ingenious, and deeply odd engineering behind one of Disneyland’s most overlooked systems: the park-wide dark water network that connects Storybook Land, the Motorboat Cruise, the Snow White Grotto, the Adventureland Treehouse, the Jungle Cruise, and the entire Rivers of America.</p><p>Along the way, we pay tribute to Rob Reiner, Gil Gerard, Bob Burns, and Imagineer Eddie Sotto. We also explore the enduring importance of Peter Renaday, original voice of Mark Twain and the first Ghost Host. This episode weaves history, engineering, Imagineering lore, and personal stories into one of the richest deep dives we’ve done yet.</p><p>---<br/><br/>⏱️ CHAPTERS<br/>00:00 Intro  <br/>02:00 Remembering Rob Reiner, Gil Gerard &amp; Bob Burns  <br/>09:45 Tribute to Imagineer Eddie Sotto  <br/>12:30 What Is Disneyland’s “Dark Water System”?  <br/>14:50 How the Water Flows (Storybook Land → Motorboat Cruise → Matterhorn → Snow White Grotto → Carnation Creek → Adventureland → Jungle Cruise → Rivers of America)  <br/>32:10 Jungle Cruise Waterfalls &amp; Mosquito Abatement  <br/>38:30 Swiss Family Treehouse / Adventureland Treehouse Water Loop  <br/>45:20 The Truth About “Well #1” (137 feet, not 1300 feet)  <br/>56:00 Riding the Mark Twain &amp; the peaceful design of the river  <br/>01:06:00 Peter Renaday – Mark Twain, Ghost Host &amp; Disney legend  <br/><br/>---<br/><br/>🔍 KEYWORDS<br/>Disneyland dark water, Rivers of America engineering, Storybook Land water system, Motorboat Cruise, Snow White Grotto waterfall, Carnation Creek, Plaza Gardens, Adventureland water channel, Jungle Cruise ecosystem, Mark Twain riverboat, Peter Renaday ghost host, Eddie Sotto, Bob Burns, Rob Reiner, Gil Gerard, Disneyland engineering, Imagineering history, Disneyland plumbing system<br/><br/>---<br/><br/>📎 REFERENCES<br/>E-Ticket Magazine #18 – Jansen Brothers (Dark Water System)  <br/>Kelly&apos;s Article About Frontierland and the False History of the American West - https://boardwalktimes.net/we-need-to-talk-about-frontierland-ad54b31a1fe1<br/><br/>---<br/><br/>🎧 FOLLOW US<br/>Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-lowdown-on-the-plus-up-a-theme-park-podcast/id1737456626  <br/>Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/3PEPHJQk2t8TQON1mzJHWR<br/>YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLsUeUre1Atv5XRqr4CX1R2s1TVCAz7jvL <br/>Boardwalk Times: https://boardwalktimes.net<br/><br/>#ThemeParkPodcast #DisneylandHistory #Imagineering<br/><br/></p><p>Thanks for listening!<br/><br/>We&apos;d love it if you would give us a review on your podcast platform of choice: iTunes, Spotify, etc... They&apos;re really helpful.</p><p><br/>And get in touch and let us know about YOUR Plus-Ups for the attractions we&apos;ve talked about!  We&apos;d love to tell them on the air.<br/><br/>Come visit us on <a href='https://bsky.app/profile/lowdown-plus-up.bsky.social'>Bluesky</a>, Mastodon, <a href='https://www.instagram.com/lowdownplusup/'>Instagram</a>, or whatever social media you like. Just look up Lowdown on the Plus-Up and you&apos;ll probably find us.  Or drop us a note to comments@lowdown-plus-up.com and let us know any questions or comments about how YOU would like to plus-something-up!<br/> <br/>We are a Boardwalk Times production.<br/>Boardwalk Times, https://boardwalktimes.net/<br/>Boardwalk Times store, https://boardwalktimes.store .<br/><br/></p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/2335588/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>EPISODE SUMMARY</p><p>The most powerful special effect at Disneyland isn’t a projection or a firework. It’s water—dyed, pumped, and choreographed to keep illusions seamless, landscapes lush, and guests grounded. </p><p>In this episode, Kelly and Pete unravel the surprising, ingenious, and deeply odd engineering behind one of Disneyland’s most overlooked systems: the park-wide dark water network that connects Storybook Land, the Motorboat Cruise, the Snow White Grotto, the Adventureland Treehouse, the Jungle Cruise, and the entire Rivers of America.</p><p>Along the way, we pay tribute to Rob Reiner, Gil Gerard, Bob Burns, and Imagineer Eddie Sotto. We also explore the enduring importance of Peter Renaday, original voice of Mark Twain and the first Ghost Host. This episode weaves history, engineering, Imagineering lore, and personal stories into one of the richest deep dives we’ve done yet.</p><p>---<br/><br/>⏱️ CHAPTERS<br/>00:00 Intro  <br/>02:00 Remembering Rob Reiner, Gil Gerard &amp; Bob Burns  <br/>09:45 Tribute to Imagineer Eddie Sotto  <br/>12:30 What Is Disneyland’s “Dark Water System”?  <br/>14:50 How the Water Flows (Storybook Land → Motorboat Cruise → Matterhorn → Snow White Grotto → Carnation Creek → Adventureland → Jungle Cruise → Rivers of America)  <br/>32:10 Jungle Cruise Waterfalls &amp; Mosquito Abatement  <br/>38:30 Swiss Family Treehouse / Adventureland Treehouse Water Loop  <br/>45:20 The Truth About “Well #1” (137 feet, not 1300 feet)  <br/>56:00 Riding the Mark Twain &amp; the peaceful design of the river  <br/>01:06:00 Peter Renaday – Mark Twain, Ghost Host &amp; Disney legend  <br/><br/>---<br/><br/>🔍 KEYWORDS<br/>Disneyland dark water, Rivers of America engineering, Storybook Land water system, Motorboat Cruise, Snow White Grotto waterfall, Carnation Creek, Plaza Gardens, Adventureland water channel, Jungle Cruise ecosystem, Mark Twain riverboat, Peter Renaday ghost host, Eddie Sotto, Bob Burns, Rob Reiner, Gil Gerard, Disneyland engineering, Imagineering history, Disneyland plumbing system<br/><br/>---<br/><br/>📎 REFERENCES<br/>E-Ticket Magazine #18 – Jansen Brothers (Dark Water System)  <br/>Kelly&apos;s Article About Frontierland and the False History of the American West - https://boardwalktimes.net/we-need-to-talk-about-frontierland-ad54b31a1fe1<br/><br/>---<br/><br/>🎧 FOLLOW US<br/>Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-lowdown-on-the-plus-up-a-theme-park-podcast/id1737456626  <br/>Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/3PEPHJQk2t8TQON1mzJHWR<br/>YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLsUeUre1Atv5XRqr4CX1R2s1TVCAz7jvL <br/>Boardwalk Times: https://boardwalktimes.net<br/><br/>#ThemeParkPodcast #DisneylandHistory #Imagineering<br/><br/></p><p>Thanks for listening!<br/><br/>We&apos;d love it if you would give us a review on your podcast platform of choice: iTunes, Spotify, etc... They&apos;re really helpful.</p><p><br/>And get in touch and let us know about YOUR Plus-Ups for the attractions we&apos;ve talked about!  We&apos;d love to tell them on the air.<br/><br/>Come visit us on <a href='https://bsky.app/profile/lowdown-plus-up.bsky.social'>Bluesky</a>, Mastodon, <a href='https://www.instagram.com/lowdownplusup/'>Instagram</a>, or whatever social media you like. Just look up Lowdown on the Plus-Up and you&apos;ll probably find us.  Or drop us a note to comments@lowdown-plus-up.com and let us know any questions or comments about how YOU would like to plus-something-up!<br/> <br/>We are a Boardwalk Times production.<br/>Boardwalk Times, https://boardwalktimes.net/<br/>Boardwalk Times store, https://boardwalktimes.store .<br/><br/></p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Send us Fan Mail Universal Studios' evolution from modest Tram Tour to the top challenger for the theme park throne was due to the fierce drive of one man: Jay Stein. Intense, ambitious and sometimes frightening, Stein let his competitiveness and, later, his seething rage against the Walt Disney Company forge an entirely new path for theme parks. By the time he left the company in 1993, it was no longer the underdog, but an innovator that the rest of the industry - Disney included - had to ke...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/2335588/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>Universal Studios&apos; evolution from modest Tram Tour to the top challenger for the theme park throne was due to the fierce drive of one man: Jay Stein.<br/>Intense, ambitious and sometimes frightening, Stein let his competitiveness and, later, his seething rage against the Walt Disney Company forge an entirely new path for theme parks. By the time he left the company in 1993, it was no longer the underdog, but an innovator that the rest of the industry - Disney included - had to keep up with.<br/><br/>Stein passed away on November 5th.  Join us in remembering the legend and celebrating his life.<br/><br/>Obituary: https://boardwalktimes.net/universal-studios-theme-park-visionary-jay-stein-dead-at-87-32b3158eaa0a</p><p>Thanks for listening!<br/><br/>We&apos;d love it if you would give us a review on your podcast platform of choice: iTunes, Spotify, etc... They&apos;re really helpful.</p><p><br/>And get in touch and let us know about YOUR Plus-Ups for the attractions we&apos;ve talked about!  We&apos;d love to tell them on the air.<br/><br/>Come visit us on <a href='https://bsky.app/profile/lowdown-plus-up.bsky.social'>Bluesky</a>, Mastodon, <a href='https://www.instagram.com/lowdownplusup/'>Instagram</a>, or whatever social media you like. Just look up Lowdown on the Plus-Up and you&apos;ll probably find us.  Or drop us a note to comments@lowdown-plus-up.com and let us know any questions or comments about how YOU would like to plus-something-up!<br/> <br/>We are a Boardwalk Times production.<br/>Boardwalk Times, https://boardwalktimes.net/<br/>Boardwalk Times store, https://boardwalktimes.store .<br/><br/></p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/2335588/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>Universal Studios&apos; evolution from modest Tram Tour to the top challenger for the theme park throne was due to the fierce drive of one man: Jay Stein.<br/>Intense, ambitious and sometimes frightening, Stein let his competitiveness and, later, his seething rage against the Walt Disney Company forge an entirely new path for theme parks. By the time he left the company in 1993, it was no longer the underdog, but an innovator that the rest of the industry - Disney included - had to keep up with.<br/><br/>Stein passed away on November 5th.  Join us in remembering the legend and celebrating his life.<br/><br/>Obituary: https://boardwalktimes.net/universal-studios-theme-park-visionary-jay-stein-dead-at-87-32b3158eaa0a</p><p>Thanks for listening!<br/><br/>We&apos;d love it if you would give us a review on your podcast platform of choice: iTunes, Spotify, etc... They&apos;re really helpful.</p><p><br/>And get in touch and let us know about YOUR Plus-Ups for the attractions we&apos;ve talked about!  We&apos;d love to tell them on the air.<br/><br/>Come visit us on <a href='https://bsky.app/profile/lowdown-plus-up.bsky.social'>Bluesky</a>, Mastodon, <a href='https://www.instagram.com/lowdownplusup/'>Instagram</a>, or whatever social media you like. Just look up Lowdown on the Plus-Up and you&apos;ll probably find us.  Or drop us a note to comments@lowdown-plus-up.com and let us know any questions or comments about how YOU would like to plus-something-up!<br/> <br/>We are a Boardwalk Times production.<br/>Boardwalk Times, https://boardwalktimes.net/<br/>Boardwalk Times store, https://boardwalktimes.store .<br/><br/></p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Send us Fan Mail Midnight seances, glow-in-the-dark ghosts, and a gorilla that always breaks loose—our journey into haunted-house history starts where theater met sideshow and never looked back. We trace the first British walkthroughs of the 1930s, the packed spook shows that turned movie palaces into after-hours carnivals, and the scrappy showmen who transformed empty storefronts into seasonal scream factories.   From the U.K. to postwar Japan, if you love theme parks, horror design, or...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/2335588/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>Midnight seances, glow-in-the-dark ghosts, and a gorilla that always breaks loose—our journey into haunted-house history starts where theater met sideshow and never looked back. We trace the first British walkthroughs of the 1930s, the packed spook shows that turned movie palaces into after-hours carnivals, and the scrappy showmen who transformed empty storefronts into seasonal scream factories. <br/><br/>From the U.K. to postwar Japan, if you love theme parks, horror design, or the mechanics of a perfect fright, you’re in the right place.<br/><br/>Enjoyed the ride? Follow the show, leave a rating on your podcast app, and share this episode with a friend who loves a good scare. Your reviews help others find us.</p><p>Thanks for listening!<br/><br/>We&apos;d love it if you would give us a review on your podcast platform of choice: iTunes, Spotify, etc... They&apos;re really helpful.</p><p><br/>And get in touch and let us know about YOUR Plus-Ups for the attractions we&apos;ve talked about!  We&apos;d love to tell them on the air.<br/><br/>Come visit us on <a href='https://bsky.app/profile/lowdown-plus-up.bsky.social'>Bluesky</a>, Mastodon, <a href='https://www.instagram.com/lowdownplusup/'>Instagram</a>, or whatever social media you like. Just look up Lowdown on the Plus-Up and you&apos;ll probably find us.  Or drop us a note to comments@lowdown-plus-up.com and let us know any questions or comments about how YOU would like to plus-something-up!<br/> <br/>We are a Boardwalk Times production.<br/>Boardwalk Times, https://boardwalktimes.net/<br/>Boardwalk Times store, https://boardwalktimes.store .<br/><br/></p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/2335588/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>Midnight seances, glow-in-the-dark ghosts, and a gorilla that always breaks loose—our journey into haunted-house history starts where theater met sideshow and never looked back. We trace the first British walkthroughs of the 1930s, the packed spook shows that turned movie palaces into after-hours carnivals, and the scrappy showmen who transformed empty storefronts into seasonal scream factories. <br/><br/>From the U.K. to postwar Japan, if you love theme parks, horror design, or the mechanics of a perfect fright, you’re in the right place.<br/><br/>Enjoyed the ride? Follow the show, leave a rating on your podcast app, and share this episode with a friend who loves a good scare. Your reviews help others find us.</p><p>Thanks for listening!<br/><br/>We&apos;d love it if you would give us a review on your podcast platform of choice: iTunes, Spotify, etc... They&apos;re really helpful.</p><p><br/>And get in touch and let us know about YOUR Plus-Ups for the attractions we&apos;ve talked about!  We&apos;d love to tell them on the air.<br/><br/>Come visit us on <a href='https://bsky.app/profile/lowdown-plus-up.bsky.social'>Bluesky</a>, Mastodon, <a href='https://www.instagram.com/lowdownplusup/'>Instagram</a>, or whatever social media you like. Just look up Lowdown on the Plus-Up and you&apos;ll probably find us.  Or drop us a note to comments@lowdown-plus-up.com and let us know any questions or comments about how YOU would like to plus-something-up!<br/> <br/>We are a Boardwalk Times production.<br/>Boardwalk Times, https://boardwalktimes.net/<br/>Boardwalk Times store, https://boardwalktimes.store .<br/><br/></p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <itunes:title>Knott&#39;s Scary Farm - Before Halloween Horror Nights, Before Oogie-Boogie Bash, Knott&#39;s Got Boysenscary!</itunes:title>
    <title>Knott&#39;s Scary Farm - Before Halloween Horror Nights, Before Oogie-Boogie Bash, Knott&#39;s Got Boysenscary!</title>
    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Send us Fan Mail Halloween didn’t just arrive at theme parks; it was engineered, rehearsed, and unleashed from a fog-soaked street in Buena Park. We dive into the wild origin story of Knott’s Scary Farm, tracing the DNA from mid-century horror hosts to the first freestanding mazes, the invention of roaming monsters, and the culture of sliders sparking their way through Calico. It’s a saga packed with scrappy ingenuity, late-night TV legend, and a berry (boysen) farm that accidentally became t...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/2335588/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>Halloween didn’t just arrive at theme parks; it was engineered, rehearsed, and unleashed from a fog-soaked street in Buena Park. We dive into the wild origin story of Knott’s Scary Farm, tracing the DNA from mid-century horror hosts to the first freestanding mazes, the invention of roaming monsters, and the culture of sliders sparking their way through Calico. It’s a saga packed with scrappy ingenuity, late-night TV legend, and a berry (boysen) farm that accidentally became the Godfather of haunt season.<br/><br/>We unpack the rise of Sinister Seymour’s razor-edged hosting, the disco-chaos of Wolfman Jack (including a gloriously unlicensed “Star Wars” detour), and the polished power of Elvira, whose partnership with John Paragon made legendary Vegas-style Camp. From the early witch’s gallows that genuinely chilled to The Hanging’s later pop-culture satire, we examine where tone elevates fear and where it dilutes it. Then we step inside the design shop: Dominion of the Dead’s monochrome beauty, classic illusions like Spidora, and a philosophy that favors original concepts over IP—teaching generations of builders to craft story with light, sound, and movement.<br/><br/>We also wrestle with the boundaries. Trapped’s extreme interactivity brought waivers, safe words, and ethical questions that tested the Knott’s ethos. By the end, you’ll see how Knott’s Scary Farm didn’t just influence Universal and Six Flags—it gave seasonal events a blueprint for scale, artistry, and atmosphere.<br/><br/>If this journey made you feel the fog rolling in, subscribe, share with a fellow haunt fan, and leave a review with your favorite Scary Farm memory or maze. What should come back: a serious, cinematic set piece or a new master of ceremonies to lead the night?</p><p>Thanks for listening!<br/><br/>We&apos;d love it if you would give us a review on your podcast platform of choice: iTunes, Spotify, etc... They&apos;re really helpful.</p><p><br/>And get in touch and let us know about YOUR Plus-Ups for the attractions we&apos;ve talked about!  We&apos;d love to tell them on the air.<br/><br/>Come visit us on <a href='https://bsky.app/profile/lowdown-plus-up.bsky.social'>Bluesky</a>, Mastodon, <a href='https://www.instagram.com/lowdownplusup/'>Instagram</a>, or whatever social media you like. Just look up Lowdown on the Plus-Up and you&apos;ll probably find us.  Or drop us a note to comments@lowdown-plus-up.com and let us know any questions or comments about how YOU would like to plus-something-up!<br/> <br/>We are a Boardwalk Times production.<br/>Boardwalk Times, https://boardwalktimes.net/<br/>Boardwalk Times store, https://boardwalktimes.store .<br/><br/></p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/2335588/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>Halloween didn’t just arrive at theme parks; it was engineered, rehearsed, and unleashed from a fog-soaked street in Buena Park. We dive into the wild origin story of Knott’s Scary Farm, tracing the DNA from mid-century horror hosts to the first freestanding mazes, the invention of roaming monsters, and the culture of sliders sparking their way through Calico. It’s a saga packed with scrappy ingenuity, late-night TV legend, and a berry (boysen) farm that accidentally became the Godfather of haunt season.<br/><br/>We unpack the rise of Sinister Seymour’s razor-edged hosting, the disco-chaos of Wolfman Jack (including a gloriously unlicensed “Star Wars” detour), and the polished power of Elvira, whose partnership with John Paragon made legendary Vegas-style Camp. From the early witch’s gallows that genuinely chilled to The Hanging’s later pop-culture satire, we examine where tone elevates fear and where it dilutes it. Then we step inside the design shop: Dominion of the Dead’s monochrome beauty, classic illusions like Spidora, and a philosophy that favors original concepts over IP—teaching generations of builders to craft story with light, sound, and movement.<br/><br/>We also wrestle with the boundaries. Trapped’s extreme interactivity brought waivers, safe words, and ethical questions that tested the Knott’s ethos. By the end, you’ll see how Knott’s Scary Farm didn’t just influence Universal and Six Flags—it gave seasonal events a blueprint for scale, artistry, and atmosphere.<br/><br/>If this journey made you feel the fog rolling in, subscribe, share with a fellow haunt fan, and leave a review with your favorite Scary Farm memory or maze. What should come back: a serious, cinematic set piece or a new master of ceremonies to lead the night?</p><p>Thanks for listening!<br/><br/>We&apos;d love it if you would give us a review on your podcast platform of choice: iTunes, Spotify, etc... They&apos;re really helpful.</p><p><br/>And get in touch and let us know about YOUR Plus-Ups for the attractions we&apos;ve talked about!  We&apos;d love to tell them on the air.<br/><br/>Come visit us on <a href='https://bsky.app/profile/lowdown-plus-up.bsky.social'>Bluesky</a>, Mastodon, <a href='https://www.instagram.com/lowdownplusup/'>Instagram</a>, or whatever social media you like. Just look up Lowdown on the Plus-Up and you&apos;ll probably find us.  Or drop us a note to comments@lowdown-plus-up.com and let us know any questions or comments about how YOU would like to plus-something-up!<br/> <br/>We are a Boardwalk Times production.<br/>Boardwalk Times, https://boardwalktimes.net/<br/>Boardwalk Times store, https://boardwalktimes.store .<br/><br/></p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <pubDate>Mon, 27 Oct 2025 20:00:00 -0700</pubDate>
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    <itunes:title>The True Story of Ray Bradbury and Theme Parks with Dr. Phil Nichols, or Pete and Kelly Become Desperate for Validation and Call an Expert!</itunes:title>
    <title>The True Story of Ray Bradbury and Theme Parks with Dr. Phil Nichols, or Pete and Kelly Become Desperate for Validation and Call an Expert!</title>
    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Send us Fan Mail Ray Bradbury had a fascination with themed entertainment since he first attended the 1939 New York World's Fair, but was it merely as a casual observer or did he actually get his hands dirty? We invited noted Ray Bradbury scholar, Dr. Phil Nichols, to talk about it all: Ray's relationship with Walt Disney, his fascination with urban design, his work on EPCOT Center, and even how Ray might very well be responsible for the concept of a food court. We even got to hear about some...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/2335588/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>Ray Bradbury had a fascination with themed entertainment since he first attended the 1939 New York World&apos;s Fair, but was it merely as a casual observer or did he actually get his hands dirty?<br/>We invited noted Ray Bradbury scholar, Dr. Phil Nichols, to talk about it all: Ray&apos;s relationship with Walt Disney, his fascination with urban design, his work on EPCOT Center, and even how Ray might very well be responsible for the concept of a food court.<br/>We even got to hear about some attraction concepts that Bradbury worked on but were never built.<br/><br/>Join us for the straight dope on the brilliant Ray Bradbury!<br/><br/>===============================================================<br/><br/>If you&apos;d like to listen to any of Phil&apos;s terrific podcasts - Bradbury 100 or Science Fiction 101 - you can find information on them here: bradburymedia.co.uk </p><p>He also has his YouTube channel, Bradbury 101, right here: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLKLDIIgbxgIsUjaY_4IG90yvfaO9wWIRf<br/><br/>Thanks for listening!</p><p>Thanks for listening!<br/><br/>We&apos;d love it if you would give us a review on your podcast platform of choice: iTunes, Spotify, etc... They&apos;re really helpful.</p><p><br/>And get in touch and let us know about YOUR Plus-Ups for the attractions we&apos;ve talked about!  We&apos;d love to tell them on the air.<br/><br/>Come visit us on <a href='https://bsky.app/profile/lowdown-plus-up.bsky.social'>Bluesky</a>, Mastodon, <a href='https://www.instagram.com/lowdownplusup/'>Instagram</a>, or whatever social media you like. Just look up Lowdown on the Plus-Up and you&apos;ll probably find us.  Or drop us a note to comments@lowdown-plus-up.com and let us know any questions or comments about how YOU would like to plus-something-up!<br/> <br/>We are a Boardwalk Times production.<br/>Boardwalk Times, https://boardwalktimes.net/<br/>Boardwalk Times store, https://boardwalktimes.store .<br/><br/></p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/2335588/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>Ray Bradbury had a fascination with themed entertainment since he first attended the 1939 New York World&apos;s Fair, but was it merely as a casual observer or did he actually get his hands dirty?<br/>We invited noted Ray Bradbury scholar, Dr. Phil Nichols, to talk about it all: Ray&apos;s relationship with Walt Disney, his fascination with urban design, his work on EPCOT Center, and even how Ray might very well be responsible for the concept of a food court.<br/>We even got to hear about some attraction concepts that Bradbury worked on but were never built.<br/><br/>Join us for the straight dope on the brilliant Ray Bradbury!<br/><br/>===============================================================<br/><br/>If you&apos;d like to listen to any of Phil&apos;s terrific podcasts - Bradbury 100 or Science Fiction 101 - you can find information on them here: bradburymedia.co.uk </p><p>He also has his YouTube channel, Bradbury 101, right here: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLKLDIIgbxgIsUjaY_4IG90yvfaO9wWIRf<br/><br/>Thanks for listening!</p><p>Thanks for listening!<br/><br/>We&apos;d love it if you would give us a review on your podcast platform of choice: iTunes, Spotify, etc... They&apos;re really helpful.</p><p><br/>And get in touch and let us know about YOUR Plus-Ups for the attractions we&apos;ve talked about!  We&apos;d love to tell them on the air.<br/><br/>Come visit us on <a href='https://bsky.app/profile/lowdown-plus-up.bsky.social'>Bluesky</a>, Mastodon, <a href='https://www.instagram.com/lowdownplusup/'>Instagram</a>, or whatever social media you like. Just look up Lowdown on the Plus-Up and you&apos;ll probably find us.  Or drop us a note to comments@lowdown-plus-up.com and let us know any questions or comments about how YOU would like to plus-something-up!<br/> <br/>We are a Boardwalk Times production.<br/>Boardwalk Times, https://boardwalktimes.net/<br/>Boardwalk Times store, https://boardwalktimes.store .<br/><br/></p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2025 05:00:00 -0700</pubDate>
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  <psc:chapter start="5:44" title="The Great Electric Time Maze Revisited" />
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  <psc:chapter start="13:17" title="Gruen, Walkable Centers, And Disneyland As Model" />
  <psc:chapter start="16:33" title="Lostness, Malls, And Clifton’s Influence" />
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  <psc:chapter start="47:29" title="Unbuilt Rides, Trumbull, And Lost Projects" />
  <psc:chapter start="52:10" title="Recycling Stories: Halloween Tree And Wicked" />
  <psc:chapter start="56:44" title="Missing Friends, Memory, And Empathy In Bradbury" />
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  <psc:chapter start="1:04:05" title="Legacy, Money, And Doing The Work First" />
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  <psc:chapter start="1:11:14" title="Plus-Up: What We’d Change In The Time Maze" />
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    <itunes:title>Ray Bradbury&#39;s Theme Park - The Great Electric Time Maze!</itunes:title>
    <title>Ray Bradbury&#39;s Theme Park - The Great Electric Time Maze!</title>
    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Send us Fan Mail Whether he was disappointed with how his work for EPCOT Center turned out or he was simply inspired to do it again, Ray Bradbury created his own vision of a theme park: The Great Electric Time Maze. Impractical, economically unviable and centered around completely untethered Blue Sky concepts, this midwestern phantasia of a park is right up our alley!  Join us as we zoom through time, battle dinosaurs with our Electro-Guns, narrowly escape from the Mechanical Hounds and ...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/2335588/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>Whether he was disappointed with how his work for EPCOT Center turned out or he was simply inspired to do it again, Ray Bradbury created his own vision of a theme park: The Great Electric Time Maze.<br/>Impractical, economically unviable and centered around completely untethered Blue Sky concepts, this midwestern phantasia of a park is right up our alley! <br/>Join us as we zoom through time, battle dinosaurs with our Electro-Guns, narrowly escape from the Mechanical Hounds and drown in the Sea of Eats in the park that only the greatest science fiction writer of the 20th century could have conceived.</p><p>Thanks for listening!<br/><br/>We&apos;d love it if you would give us a review on your podcast platform of choice: iTunes, Spotify, etc... They&apos;re really helpful.</p><p><br/>And get in touch and let us know about YOUR Plus-Ups for the attractions we&apos;ve talked about!  We&apos;d love to tell them on the air.<br/><br/>Come visit us on <a href='https://bsky.app/profile/lowdown-plus-up.bsky.social'>Bluesky</a>, Mastodon, <a href='https://www.instagram.com/lowdownplusup/'>Instagram</a>, or whatever social media you like. Just look up Lowdown on the Plus-Up and you&apos;ll probably find us.  Or drop us a note to comments@lowdown-plus-up.com and let us know any questions or comments about how YOU would like to plus-something-up!<br/> <br/>We are a Boardwalk Times production.<br/>Boardwalk Times, https://boardwalktimes.net/<br/>Boardwalk Times store, https://boardwalktimes.store .<br/><br/></p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/2335588/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>Whether he was disappointed with how his work for EPCOT Center turned out or he was simply inspired to do it again, Ray Bradbury created his own vision of a theme park: The Great Electric Time Maze.<br/>Impractical, economically unviable and centered around completely untethered Blue Sky concepts, this midwestern phantasia of a park is right up our alley! <br/>Join us as we zoom through time, battle dinosaurs with our Electro-Guns, narrowly escape from the Mechanical Hounds and drown in the Sea of Eats in the park that only the greatest science fiction writer of the 20th century could have conceived.</p><p>Thanks for listening!<br/><br/>We&apos;d love it if you would give us a review on your podcast platform of choice: iTunes, Spotify, etc... They&apos;re really helpful.</p><p><br/>And get in touch and let us know about YOUR Plus-Ups for the attractions we&apos;ve talked about!  We&apos;d love to tell them on the air.<br/><br/>Come visit us on <a href='https://bsky.app/profile/lowdown-plus-up.bsky.social'>Bluesky</a>, Mastodon, <a href='https://www.instagram.com/lowdownplusup/'>Instagram</a>, or whatever social media you like. Just look up Lowdown on the Plus-Up and you&apos;ll probably find us.  Or drop us a note to comments@lowdown-plus-up.com and let us know any questions or comments about how YOU would like to plus-something-up!<br/> <br/>We are a Boardwalk Times production.<br/>Boardwalk Times, https://boardwalktimes.net/<br/>Boardwalk Times store, https://boardwalktimes.store .<br/><br/></p>]]></content:encoded>
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  <psc:chapter start="1:35" title="Today’s Topic: A Lost Bradbury Attraction" />
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  <psc:chapter start="25:30" title="Rotating “Train” Restaurant Inspiration" />
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    <description><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/2335588/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>EPISODE SUMMARY<br/>In this episode of The Lowdown on the Plus-Up, Kelly and Pete return to their nerd roots to explore the theme park legacy of Star Trek. From the original 1966 series to Deep Space Nine, the two dive into Gene Roddenberry’s ideals, the franchise’s optimism, and the surprising role Lucille Ball played in making the show possible. We discuss the rise and fall of Star Trek: The Experience at the Las Vegas Hilton—a massive, immersive attraction featuring the DS9 Promenade, Quark’s Bar, Klingon Encounter, and later Borg Invasion 4D.</p><p>We also talk about how Universal took the franchise into their theme parks.<br/><br/>And we cover the fan-made continuation series Star Trek: New Voyages/Phase II, the Elvis-impersonator-turned-Captain-Kirk who built the entire Enterprise in upstate New York, and how the evolution of fan productions influenced the modern Trek landscape.<br/><br/>---<br/><br/>⏱️ CHAPTERS<br/>00:00 Intro – Energizing the bridge  <br/>01:04 What is The Lowdown on the Plus-Up?  <br/>02:09 Why Star Trek endures from 1966 to today  <br/>05:40 Star Wars vs Star Trek – emotional ties  <br/>06:10 Lucille Ball’s essential role in Star Trek’s creation  <br/>07:05 Growing up with the original series  <br/>07:35 Gene Roddenberry’s contradictions &amp; progressive vision  <br/>09:41 Star Trek’s ideals vs cynicism  <br/>50:45 The Las Vegas Hilton attraction – Star Trek: The Experience  <br/>51:17 DS9 Promenade, Quark’s Bar &amp; the Dabo game  <br/>51:42 Klingon Encounter – history, design &amp; Gary Goddard  <br/>52:35 Landmark Entertainment, Luke Mayrand &amp; major set designers  <br/>53:00 Paramount’s investment &amp; Trek writers involved  <br/>01:20:53 James Cawley &amp; the New Voyages fan film sets  <br/>01:21:30 Cameos from George Takei, Nichelle Nichols &amp; more  <br/>01:22:30 Elvis pays for Star Trek – the fan film financing story  <br/>01:23:12 How fan productions preserved Trek’s legacy  <br/><br/>---<br/><br/>🔍 KEYWORDS<br/>Star Trek The Experience, Las Vegas Hilton attractions, Deep Space Nine Promenade, Quark’s Bar, Klingon Encounter, Gary Goddard, Landmark Entertainment, Star Trek theme park, Star Trek fan films, James Cawley, Star Trek New Voyages, Phase II fan series, Gene Roddenberry history, Lucille Ball Desilu, theme park history, science fiction attractions, DS9 sets, Trek optimism, Star Trek fandom<br/><br/>---<br/><br/>📎 REFERENCES<br/>Boardwalk Times – https://boardwalktimes.net  <br/>Star Trek Original Series Set Tour - https://startrektour.com<br/><br/>---<br/><br/>🎧 FOLLOW US<br/>Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-lowdown-on-the-plus-up-a-theme-park-podcast/id1737456626  <br/>Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/3PEPHJQk2t8TQON1mzJHWR<br/>YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLsUeUre1Atv5XRqr4CX1R2s1TVCAz7jvL <br/>Boardwalk Times: https://boardwalktimes.net<br/><br/>#StarTrek #ThemeParkHistory #StarTrekTheExperience #Imagineering #ScienceFictionHistory<br/><br/></p><p>Thanks for listening!<br/><br/>We&apos;d love it if you would give us a review on your podcast platform of choice: iTunes, Spotify, etc... They&apos;re really helpful.</p><p><br/>And get in touch and let us know about YOUR Plus-Ups for the attractions we&apos;ve talked about!  We&apos;d love to tell them on the air.<br/><br/>Come visit us on <a href='https://bsky.app/profile/lowdown-plus-up.bsky.social'>Bluesky</a>, Mastodon, <a href='https://www.instagram.com/lowdownplusup/'>Instagram</a>, or whatever social media you like. Just look up Lowdown on the Plus-Up and you&apos;ll probably find us.  Or drop us a note to comments@lowdown-plus-up.com and let us know any questions or comments about how YOU would like to plus-something-up!<br/> <br/>We are a Boardwalk Times production.<br/>Boardwalk Times, https://boardwalktimes.net/<br/>Boardwalk Times store, https://boardwalktimes.store .<br/><br/></p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/2335588/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>EPISODE SUMMARY<br/>In this episode of The Lowdown on the Plus-Up, Kelly and Pete return to their nerd roots to explore the theme park legacy of Star Trek. From the original 1966 series to Deep Space Nine, the two dive into Gene Roddenberry’s ideals, the franchise’s optimism, and the surprising role Lucille Ball played in making the show possible. We discuss the rise and fall of Star Trek: The Experience at the Las Vegas Hilton—a massive, immersive attraction featuring the DS9 Promenade, Quark’s Bar, Klingon Encounter, and later Borg Invasion 4D.</p><p>We also talk about how Universal took the franchise into their theme parks.<br/><br/>And we cover the fan-made continuation series Star Trek: New Voyages/Phase II, the Elvis-impersonator-turned-Captain-Kirk who built the entire Enterprise in upstate New York, and how the evolution of fan productions influenced the modern Trek landscape.<br/><br/>---<br/><br/>⏱️ CHAPTERS<br/>00:00 Intro – Energizing the bridge  <br/>01:04 What is The Lowdown on the Plus-Up?  <br/>02:09 Why Star Trek endures from 1966 to today  <br/>05:40 Star Wars vs Star Trek – emotional ties  <br/>06:10 Lucille Ball’s essential role in Star Trek’s creation  <br/>07:05 Growing up with the original series  <br/>07:35 Gene Roddenberry’s contradictions &amp; progressive vision  <br/>09:41 Star Trek’s ideals vs cynicism  <br/>50:45 The Las Vegas Hilton attraction – Star Trek: The Experience  <br/>51:17 DS9 Promenade, Quark’s Bar &amp; the Dabo game  <br/>51:42 Klingon Encounter – history, design &amp; Gary Goddard  <br/>52:35 Landmark Entertainment, Luke Mayrand &amp; major set designers  <br/>53:00 Paramount’s investment &amp; Trek writers involved  <br/>01:20:53 James Cawley &amp; the New Voyages fan film sets  <br/>01:21:30 Cameos from George Takei, Nichelle Nichols &amp; more  <br/>01:22:30 Elvis pays for Star Trek – the fan film financing story  <br/>01:23:12 How fan productions preserved Trek’s legacy  <br/><br/>---<br/><br/>🔍 KEYWORDS<br/>Star Trek The Experience, Las Vegas Hilton attractions, Deep Space Nine Promenade, Quark’s Bar, Klingon Encounter, Gary Goddard, Landmark Entertainment, Star Trek theme park, Star Trek fan films, James Cawley, Star Trek New Voyages, Phase II fan series, Gene Roddenberry history, Lucille Ball Desilu, theme park history, science fiction attractions, DS9 sets, Trek optimism, Star Trek fandom<br/><br/>---<br/><br/>📎 REFERENCES<br/>Boardwalk Times – https://boardwalktimes.net  <br/>Star Trek Original Series Set Tour - https://startrektour.com<br/><br/>---<br/><br/>🎧 FOLLOW US<br/>Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-lowdown-on-the-plus-up-a-theme-park-podcast/id1737456626  <br/>Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/3PEPHJQk2t8TQON1mzJHWR<br/>YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLsUeUre1Atv5XRqr4CX1R2s1TVCAz7jvL <br/>Boardwalk Times: https://boardwalktimes.net<br/><br/>#StarTrek #ThemeParkHistory #StarTrekTheExperience #Imagineering #ScienceFictionHistory<br/><br/></p><p>Thanks for listening!<br/><br/>We&apos;d love it if you would give us a review on your podcast platform of choice: iTunes, Spotify, etc... They&apos;re really helpful.</p><p><br/>And get in touch and let us know about YOUR Plus-Ups for the attractions we&apos;ve talked about!  We&apos;d love to tell them on the air.<br/><br/>Come visit us on <a href='https://bsky.app/profile/lowdown-plus-up.bsky.social'>Bluesky</a>, Mastodon, <a href='https://www.instagram.com/lowdownplusup/'>Instagram</a>, or whatever social media you like. Just look up Lowdown on the Plus-Up and you&apos;ll probably find us.  Or drop us a note to comments@lowdown-plus-up.com and let us know any questions or comments about how YOU would like to plus-something-up!<br/> <br/>We are a Boardwalk Times production.<br/>Boardwalk Times, https://boardwalktimes.net/<br/>Boardwalk Times store, https://boardwalktimes.store .<br/><br/></p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <description><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/2335588/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>Pete takes mercy on Kelly, who&apos;s been under the weather, and does the heavy lifting on our follow-up to last season&apos;s &quot;Rude Mechanicals - Jungle Cruise: The Early Years.&quot;<br/>Bill Evans is back to see the fruition of the project he began over 35 years prior. His dream becomes a reality in the best way!<br/>Disney doubles down on immersion with unintended consequences!<br/>The jungle grows, transforms, and becomes something even more mysterious as it tries to embrace the Forbidden Eye of Mara!<br/>Join us!<br/><br/></p><p>Thanks for listening!<br/><br/>We&apos;d love it if you would give us a review on your podcast platform of choice: iTunes, Spotify, etc... They&apos;re really helpful.</p><p><br/>And get in touch and let us know about YOUR Plus-Ups for the attractions we&apos;ve talked about!  We&apos;d love to tell them on the air.<br/><br/>Come visit us on <a href='https://bsky.app/profile/lowdown-plus-up.bsky.social'>Bluesky</a>, Mastodon, <a href='https://www.instagram.com/lowdownplusup/'>Instagram</a>, or whatever social media you like. Just look up Lowdown on the Plus-Up and you&apos;ll probably find us.  Or drop us a note to comments@lowdown-plus-up.com and let us know any questions or comments about how YOU would like to plus-something-up!<br/> <br/>We are a Boardwalk Times production.<br/>Boardwalk Times, https://boardwalktimes.net/<br/>Boardwalk Times store, https://boardwalktimes.store .<br/><br/></p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/2335588/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>Pete takes mercy on Kelly, who&apos;s been under the weather, and does the heavy lifting on our follow-up to last season&apos;s &quot;Rude Mechanicals - Jungle Cruise: The Early Years.&quot;<br/>Bill Evans is back to see the fruition of the project he began over 35 years prior. His dream becomes a reality in the best way!<br/>Disney doubles down on immersion with unintended consequences!<br/>The jungle grows, transforms, and becomes something even more mysterious as it tries to embrace the Forbidden Eye of Mara!<br/>Join us!<br/><br/></p><p>Thanks for listening!<br/><br/>We&apos;d love it if you would give us a review on your podcast platform of choice: iTunes, Spotify, etc... They&apos;re really helpful.</p><p><br/>And get in touch and let us know about YOUR Plus-Ups for the attractions we&apos;ve talked about!  We&apos;d love to tell them on the air.<br/><br/>Come visit us on <a href='https://bsky.app/profile/lowdown-plus-up.bsky.social'>Bluesky</a>, Mastodon, <a href='https://www.instagram.com/lowdownplusup/'>Instagram</a>, or whatever social media you like. Just look up Lowdown on the Plus-Up and you&apos;ll probably find us.  Or drop us a note to comments@lowdown-plus-up.com and let us know any questions or comments about how YOU would like to plus-something-up!<br/> <br/>We are a Boardwalk Times production.<br/>Boardwalk Times, https://boardwalktimes.net/<br/>Boardwalk Times store, https://boardwalktimes.store .<br/><br/></p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Send us Fan Mail It's a brief, Mid-summer (Don't get in the bear!) minisode. Ever wondered what's really happening with Disneyland Forward? Dive into this revealing mini-episode where we crack open the truth behind Disney's highly publicized expansion plans in Anaheim.   https://boardwalktimes.net/disneylandforward-what-exactly-is-it-3f4c79bf93c4  A new full episode in a few weeks! Thanks for listening!  We'd love it if you would give us a review on your podcast platform of choice: iTune...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/2335588/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>It&apos;s a brief, Mid-summer (Don&apos;t get in the bear!) minisode.</p><p>Ever wondered what&apos;s really happening with Disneyland Forward? Dive into this revealing mini-episode where we crack open the truth behind Disney&apos;s highly publicized expansion plans in Anaheim. </p><p><br/>https://boardwalktimes.net/disneylandforward-what-exactly-is-it-3f4c79bf93c4</p><p><br/>A new full episode in a few weeks!</p><p>Thanks for listening!<br/><br/>We&apos;d love it if you would give us a review on your podcast platform of choice: iTunes, Spotify, etc... They&apos;re really helpful.</p><p><br/>And get in touch and let us know about YOUR Plus-Ups for the attractions we&apos;ve talked about!  We&apos;d love to tell them on the air.<br/><br/>Come visit us on <a href='https://bsky.app/profile/lowdown-plus-up.bsky.social'>Bluesky</a>, Mastodon, <a href='https://www.instagram.com/lowdownplusup/'>Instagram</a>, or whatever social media you like. Just look up Lowdown on the Plus-Up and you&apos;ll probably find us.  Or drop us a note to comments@lowdown-plus-up.com and let us know any questions or comments about how YOU would like to plus-something-up!<br/> <br/>We are a Boardwalk Times production.<br/>Boardwalk Times, https://boardwalktimes.net/<br/>Boardwalk Times store, https://boardwalktimes.store .<br/><br/></p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/2335588/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>It&apos;s a brief, Mid-summer (Don&apos;t get in the bear!) minisode.</p><p>Ever wondered what&apos;s really happening with Disneyland Forward? Dive into this revealing mini-episode where we crack open the truth behind Disney&apos;s highly publicized expansion plans in Anaheim. </p><p><br/>https://boardwalktimes.net/disneylandforward-what-exactly-is-it-3f4c79bf93c4</p><p><br/>A new full episode in a few weeks!</p><p>Thanks for listening!<br/><br/>We&apos;d love it if you would give us a review on your podcast platform of choice: iTunes, Spotify, etc... They&apos;re really helpful.</p><p><br/>And get in touch and let us know about YOUR Plus-Ups for the attractions we&apos;ve talked about!  We&apos;d love to tell them on the air.<br/><br/>Come visit us on <a href='https://bsky.app/profile/lowdown-plus-up.bsky.social'>Bluesky</a>, Mastodon, <a href='https://www.instagram.com/lowdownplusup/'>Instagram</a>, or whatever social media you like. Just look up Lowdown on the Plus-Up and you&apos;ll probably find us.  Or drop us a note to comments@lowdown-plus-up.com and let us know any questions or comments about how YOU would like to plus-something-up!<br/> <br/>We are a Boardwalk Times production.<br/>Boardwalk Times, https://boardwalktimes.net/<br/>Boardwalk Times store, https://boardwalktimes.store .<br/><br/></p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <title>The Amity Inversion - Jaws at Universal</title>
    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Send us Fan Mail Jaws was a lynchpin to Universal's theme park success, both in California and Florida. It was also one of the biggest headaches the parks ever dealt with. Join us for the return of the J-Bang(!!!) as we pick apart what happened, follow the recriminations and discuss some amazing behind-the-scenes theme park designers who worked on this ambitious, and occasionally reckless, attraction. It's so much Jaws goodness that you're gonna need a bigger boat.   ====================...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/2335588/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>Jaws was a lynchpin to Universal&apos;s theme park success, both in California and Florida. It was also one of the biggest headaches the parks ever dealt with.</p><p>Join us for the return of the J-Bang(!!!) as we pick apart what happened, follow the recriminations and discuss some amazing behind-the-scenes theme park designers who worked on this ambitious, and occasionally reckless, attraction.</p><p>It&apos;s so much Jaws goodness that you&apos;re gonna need a bigger boat. <br/><br/>================================================================</p><p>Special shout-out to Dustin McNeill&apos;s excellent &quot;Adventures in Amity: Tales from the Jaws Ride&quot; (https://www.harkerpress.com/jaws)</p><p>And to Sam Gennawey&apos;s &quot;Universal vs. Disney&quot; (https://shop.adventurewithkeen.com/product/universal-vs-disney/)</p><p>Thanks for listening!<br/><br/>We&apos;d love it if you would give us a review on your podcast platform of choice: iTunes, Spotify, etc... They&apos;re really helpful.</p><p><br/>And get in touch and let us know about YOUR Plus-Ups for the attractions we&apos;ve talked about!  We&apos;d love to tell them on the air.<br/><br/>Come visit us on <a href='https://bsky.app/profile/lowdown-plus-up.bsky.social'>Bluesky</a>, Mastodon, <a href='https://www.instagram.com/lowdownplusup/'>Instagram</a>, or whatever social media you like. Just look up Lowdown on the Plus-Up and you&apos;ll probably find us.  Or drop us a note to comments@lowdown-plus-up.com and let us know any questions or comments about how YOU would like to plus-something-up!<br/> <br/>We are a Boardwalk Times production.<br/>Boardwalk Times, https://boardwalktimes.net/<br/>Boardwalk Times store, https://boardwalktimes.store .<br/><br/></p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/2335588/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>Jaws was a lynchpin to Universal&apos;s theme park success, both in California and Florida. It was also one of the biggest headaches the parks ever dealt with.</p><p>Join us for the return of the J-Bang(!!!) as we pick apart what happened, follow the recriminations and discuss some amazing behind-the-scenes theme park designers who worked on this ambitious, and occasionally reckless, attraction.</p><p>It&apos;s so much Jaws goodness that you&apos;re gonna need a bigger boat. <br/><br/>================================================================</p><p>Special shout-out to Dustin McNeill&apos;s excellent &quot;Adventures in Amity: Tales from the Jaws Ride&quot; (https://www.harkerpress.com/jaws)</p><p>And to Sam Gennawey&apos;s &quot;Universal vs. Disney&quot; (https://shop.adventurewithkeen.com/product/universal-vs-disney/)</p><p>Thanks for listening!<br/><br/>We&apos;d love it if you would give us a review on your podcast platform of choice: iTunes, Spotify, etc... They&apos;re really helpful.</p><p><br/>And get in touch and let us know about YOUR Plus-Ups for the attractions we&apos;ve talked about!  We&apos;d love to tell them on the air.<br/><br/>Come visit us on <a href='https://bsky.app/profile/lowdown-plus-up.bsky.social'>Bluesky</a>, Mastodon, <a href='https://www.instagram.com/lowdownplusup/'>Instagram</a>, or whatever social media you like. Just look up Lowdown on the Plus-Up and you&apos;ll probably find us.  Or drop us a note to comments@lowdown-plus-up.com and let us know any questions or comments about how YOU would like to plus-something-up!<br/> <br/>We are a Boardwalk Times production.<br/>Boardwalk Times, https://boardwalktimes.net/<br/>Boardwalk Times store, https://boardwalktimes.store .<br/><br/></p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <itunes:title>America&#39;s Addiction to Gravity - Mystery Spots</itunes:title>
    <title>America&#39;s Addiction to Gravity - Mystery Spots</title>
    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Send us Fan Mail We contend that there is nothing more patriotic than being conned into believing that water runs uphill.  Step into a world where the laws of physics seemingly take a vacation as we explore America's beloved gravity-defying roadside attractions. From the Santa Cruz Mystery Spot to Confusion Hill nestled in California's redwoods, these quirky destinations have been baffling and delighting travelers since the '40s. The long and cloudy history of Gravity Shacks/Confusion Hills/M...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/2335588/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>We contend that there is nothing more patriotic than being conned into believing that water runs uphill.<br/><br/>Step into a world where the laws of physics seemingly take a vacation as we explore America&apos;s beloved gravity-defying roadside attractions. From the Santa Cruz Mystery Spot to Confusion Hill nestled in California&apos;s redwoods, these quirky destinations have been baffling and delighting travelers since the &apos;40s.<br/>The long and cloudy history of Gravity Shacks/Confusion Hills/Mystery Spots are living reminders of the wonders of weird roadside attractions and a kind of quirky, delightful, oddball America that Pete and Kelly love. From Aldebert Ames to Bill Cipher we trace the stories, and myths, of where these mysterious, physics-defying, buildings came from.<br/><br/>Let&apos;s learn how to stop worrying and embrace the con!<br/><br/>It&apos;s the first episode of Season 2 of Lowdown on the Plus-Up: America&apos;s Addiction to Gravity - Mystery Spots</p><p>Thanks for listening!<br/><br/>We&apos;d love it if you would give us a review on your podcast platform of choice: iTunes, Spotify, etc... They&apos;re really helpful.</p><p><br/>And get in touch and let us know about YOUR Plus-Ups for the attractions we&apos;ve talked about!  We&apos;d love to tell them on the air.<br/><br/>Come visit us on <a href='https://bsky.app/profile/lowdown-plus-up.bsky.social'>Bluesky</a>, Mastodon, <a href='https://www.instagram.com/lowdownplusup/'>Instagram</a>, or whatever social media you like. Just look up Lowdown on the Plus-Up and you&apos;ll probably find us.  Or drop us a note to comments@lowdown-plus-up.com and let us know any questions or comments about how YOU would like to plus-something-up!<br/> <br/>We are a Boardwalk Times production.<br/>Boardwalk Times, https://boardwalktimes.net/<br/>Boardwalk Times store, https://boardwalktimes.store .<br/><br/></p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/2335588/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>We contend that there is nothing more patriotic than being conned into believing that water runs uphill.<br/><br/>Step into a world where the laws of physics seemingly take a vacation as we explore America&apos;s beloved gravity-defying roadside attractions. From the Santa Cruz Mystery Spot to Confusion Hill nestled in California&apos;s redwoods, these quirky destinations have been baffling and delighting travelers since the &apos;40s.<br/>The long and cloudy history of Gravity Shacks/Confusion Hills/Mystery Spots are living reminders of the wonders of weird roadside attractions and a kind of quirky, delightful, oddball America that Pete and Kelly love. From Aldebert Ames to Bill Cipher we trace the stories, and myths, of where these mysterious, physics-defying, buildings came from.<br/><br/>Let&apos;s learn how to stop worrying and embrace the con!<br/><br/>It&apos;s the first episode of Season 2 of Lowdown on the Plus-Up: America&apos;s Addiction to Gravity - Mystery Spots</p><p>Thanks for listening!<br/><br/>We&apos;d love it if you would give us a review on your podcast platform of choice: iTunes, Spotify, etc... They&apos;re really helpful.</p><p><br/>And get in touch and let us know about YOUR Plus-Ups for the attractions we&apos;ve talked about!  We&apos;d love to tell them on the air.<br/><br/>Come visit us on <a href='https://bsky.app/profile/lowdown-plus-up.bsky.social'>Bluesky</a>, Mastodon, <a href='https://www.instagram.com/lowdownplusup/'>Instagram</a>, or whatever social media you like. Just look up Lowdown on the Plus-Up and you&apos;ll probably find us.  Or drop us a note to comments@lowdown-plus-up.com and let us know any questions or comments about how YOU would like to plus-something-up!<br/> <br/>We are a Boardwalk Times production.<br/>Boardwalk Times, https://boardwalktimes.net/<br/>Boardwalk Times store, https://boardwalktimes.store .<br/><br/></p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2025 13:00:00 -0700</pubDate>
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    <itunes:title>Minisode: Season 2 - Here We Come!</itunes:title>
    <title>Minisode: Season 2 - Here We Come!</title>
    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Send us Fan Mail We're wrapping up our first season of theme park adventures with a look back at what we've accomplished and a peek at what's coming in Season 2. From humble beginnings as a "way for our partners to get rid of us for a few hours every week," we're so thrilled at what this has become.  Today is a wrap-up featuring some of what we've covered, current news and a peek at where we're going:  • Latest update on Evermore Park – the purchase deal has fallen through after disputes over...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/2335588/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>We&apos;re wrapping up our first season of theme park adventures with a look back at what we&apos;ve accomplished and a peek at what&apos;s coming in Season 2. From humble beginnings as a &quot;way for our partners to get rid of us for a few hours every week,&quot; we&apos;re so thrilled at what this has become.<br/><br/>Today is a wrap-up featuring some of what we&apos;ve covered, current news and a peek at where we&apos;re going:<br/><br/>• Latest update on Evermore Park – the purchase deal has fallen through after disputes over what was included in the sale<br/>• Disney&apos;s Galactic Starcruiser at Disney World officially closing and converting to office space<br/>• Farewell to Muppet Vision 3D, Jim Henson&apos;s final directorial work and last time performing Kermit<br/>• Rivers of America at Magic Kingdom closing after July 4th for a new Cars attraction<br/>• New Coco-themed boat ride coming to California Adventure in the Paradise Gardens area<br/>• Universal&apos;s Epic Universe now open, with Monsters Unleashed being called the highlight<br/>• Season 2 will feature another &quot;What If&quot; episode creating an imaginary theme park<br/>• Upcoming episodes on discontinued Disney merchandise, Six Flags, and macabre attractions<br/>• Plans to explore the Winchester Mystery House and Knott&apos;s Scary Farm<br/>• Deep dive into Universal Studios&apos; evolution from 1916 silent film tour to modern theme park giant<br/><br/>Please spread the word about our podcast! If you enjoy what we do, leave a review!. We appreciate your support and would love to hear your suggestions for future episodes.<br/><br/><br/></p><p>Thanks for listening!<br/><br/>We&apos;d love it if you would give us a review on your podcast platform of choice: iTunes, Spotify, etc... They&apos;re really helpful.</p><p><br/>And get in touch and let us know about YOUR Plus-Ups for the attractions we&apos;ve talked about!  We&apos;d love to tell them on the air.<br/><br/>Come visit us on <a href='https://bsky.app/profile/lowdown-plus-up.bsky.social'>Bluesky</a>, Mastodon, <a href='https://www.instagram.com/lowdownplusup/'>Instagram</a>, or whatever social media you like. Just look up Lowdown on the Plus-Up and you&apos;ll probably find us.  Or drop us a note to comments@lowdown-plus-up.com and let us know any questions or comments about how YOU would like to plus-something-up!<br/> <br/>We are a Boardwalk Times production.<br/>Boardwalk Times, https://boardwalktimes.net/<br/>Boardwalk Times store, https://boardwalktimes.store .<br/><br/></p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/2335588/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>We&apos;re wrapping up our first season of theme park adventures with a look back at what we&apos;ve accomplished and a peek at what&apos;s coming in Season 2. From humble beginnings as a &quot;way for our partners to get rid of us for a few hours every week,&quot; we&apos;re so thrilled at what this has become.<br/><br/>Today is a wrap-up featuring some of what we&apos;ve covered, current news and a peek at where we&apos;re going:<br/><br/>• Latest update on Evermore Park – the purchase deal has fallen through after disputes over what was included in the sale<br/>• Disney&apos;s Galactic Starcruiser at Disney World officially closing and converting to office space<br/>• Farewell to Muppet Vision 3D, Jim Henson&apos;s final directorial work and last time performing Kermit<br/>• Rivers of America at Magic Kingdom closing after July 4th for a new Cars attraction<br/>• New Coco-themed boat ride coming to California Adventure in the Paradise Gardens area<br/>• Universal&apos;s Epic Universe now open, with Monsters Unleashed being called the highlight<br/>• Season 2 will feature another &quot;What If&quot; episode creating an imaginary theme park<br/>• Upcoming episodes on discontinued Disney merchandise, Six Flags, and macabre attractions<br/>• Plans to explore the Winchester Mystery House and Knott&apos;s Scary Farm<br/>• Deep dive into Universal Studios&apos; evolution from 1916 silent film tour to modern theme park giant<br/><br/>Please spread the word about our podcast! If you enjoy what we do, leave a review!. We appreciate your support and would love to hear your suggestions for future episodes.<br/><br/><br/></p><p>Thanks for listening!<br/><br/>We&apos;d love it if you would give us a review on your podcast platform of choice: iTunes, Spotify, etc... They&apos;re really helpful.</p><p><br/>And get in touch and let us know about YOUR Plus-Ups for the attractions we&apos;ve talked about!  We&apos;d love to tell them on the air.<br/><br/>Come visit us on <a href='https://bsky.app/profile/lowdown-plus-up.bsky.social'>Bluesky</a>, Mastodon, <a href='https://www.instagram.com/lowdownplusup/'>Instagram</a>, or whatever social media you like. Just look up Lowdown on the Plus-Up and you&apos;ll probably find us.  Or drop us a note to comments@lowdown-plus-up.com and let us know any questions or comments about how YOU would like to plus-something-up!<br/> <br/>We are a Boardwalk Times production.<br/>Boardwalk Times, https://boardwalktimes.net/<br/>Boardwalk Times store, https://boardwalktimes.store .<br/><br/></p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2025 15:00:00 -0700</pubDate>
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    <itunes:title>When the Motion Stopped: Tomorrowland Live at the Hojo!</itunes:title>
    <title>When the Motion Stopped: Tomorrowland Live at the Hojo!</title>
    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Send us Fan Mail Step with us into Tomorrowland, that curious realm where yesterday's futures linger in an increasingly static present. Why do Disney fans profess deep love for a land they rarely prioritize visiting? The answer lies in Tomorrowland's remarkable journey from hasty afterthought to kinetic wonderland to its current static identity crisis.  Our live audience at the Howard Johnson's "Suite of the Retro Future" helps us dissect what made Tomorrowland truly magical - not science fan...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/2335588/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>Step with us into Tomorrowland, that curious realm where yesterday&apos;s futures linger in an increasingly static present. Why do Disney fans profess deep love for a land they rarely prioritize visiting? The answer lies in Tomorrowland&apos;s remarkable journey from hasty afterthought to kinetic wonderland to its current static identity crisis.<br/><br/>Our live audience at the Howard Johnson&apos;s &quot;Suite of the Retro Future&quot; helps us dissect what made Tomorrowland truly magical - not science fantasy, but genuine progress in motion. The 1967 &quot;New Tomorrowland&quot; represented a perfect convergence of transportation systems: monorails gliding overhead, PeopleMovers circulating endlessly, submarines diving beneath the surface. Everything moved! The land wasn&apos;t about laser blasters and aliens; it was about showing Americans what their future could actually be.<br/><br/>When did we lose this vision? As we trace Tomorrowland&apos;s evolution through corporate sponsorships, Operation Paperclip scientists, World&apos;s Fair connections, and eventually the 1998 renovation that prioritized intellectual property over dynamism, a troubling pattern emerges. Yet our passionate audience offers compelling solutions - from embracing &quot;The Tomorrow That Never Was&quot; concept to incorporating sustainable energy demonstrations that would make the land both educational and kinetic again.<br/><br/>Whether you&apos;re nostalgic for the PeopleMover or curious about what Tomorrowland could become, join us for a thought-provoking exploration of Disney&apos;s most philosophically complex land. As one audience member aptly suggested: perhaps it&apos;s time to encourage guests not just to remember the optimistic futures of yesterday, but to imagine new ones for tomorrow.</p><p><br/></p><p>==========================================================================</p><p>Visit our friends from the episode at:</p><p>Our host, Paul Barrie from Window to the Magic (https://www.windowtothemagic.com)<br/><br/>Tracey and Scott from Disney Indiana (https://disneyindiana.com)<br/><br/>Clinton from Comedy4Cast (comedy4cast.com)/The Topic is Trek (https://www.thetopicistrek.com/)<br/><br/>Tony from Above the Firehouse (https://www.abovethefirehouse.com)<br/><br/>Our good friend Jill booked our travel for us.  She&apos;s terrific.  Reach out to her at jill@touringandcruises.com</p><p>Thanks for listening!<br/><br/>We&apos;d love it if you would give us a review on your podcast platform of choice: iTunes, Spotify, etc... They&apos;re really helpful.</p><p><br/>And get in touch and let us know about YOUR Plus-Ups for the attractions we&apos;ve talked about!  We&apos;d love to tell them on the air.<br/><br/>Come visit us on <a href='https://bsky.app/profile/lowdown-plus-up.bsky.social'>Bluesky</a>, Mastodon, <a href='https://www.instagram.com/lowdownplusup/'>Instagram</a>, or whatever social media you like. Just look up Lowdown on the Plus-Up and you&apos;ll probably find us.  Or drop us a note to comments@lowdown-plus-up.com and let us know any questions or comments about how YOU would like to plus-something-up!<br/> <br/>We are a Boardwalk Times production.<br/>Boardwalk Times, https://boardwalktimes.net/<br/>Boardwalk Times store, https://boardwalktimes.store .<br/><br/></p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/2335588/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>Step with us into Tomorrowland, that curious realm where yesterday&apos;s futures linger in an increasingly static present. Why do Disney fans profess deep love for a land they rarely prioritize visiting? The answer lies in Tomorrowland&apos;s remarkable journey from hasty afterthought to kinetic wonderland to its current static identity crisis.<br/><br/>Our live audience at the Howard Johnson&apos;s &quot;Suite of the Retro Future&quot; helps us dissect what made Tomorrowland truly magical - not science fantasy, but genuine progress in motion. The 1967 &quot;New Tomorrowland&quot; represented a perfect convergence of transportation systems: monorails gliding overhead, PeopleMovers circulating endlessly, submarines diving beneath the surface. Everything moved! The land wasn&apos;t about laser blasters and aliens; it was about showing Americans what their future could actually be.<br/><br/>When did we lose this vision? As we trace Tomorrowland&apos;s evolution through corporate sponsorships, Operation Paperclip scientists, World&apos;s Fair connections, and eventually the 1998 renovation that prioritized intellectual property over dynamism, a troubling pattern emerges. Yet our passionate audience offers compelling solutions - from embracing &quot;The Tomorrow That Never Was&quot; concept to incorporating sustainable energy demonstrations that would make the land both educational and kinetic again.<br/><br/>Whether you&apos;re nostalgic for the PeopleMover or curious about what Tomorrowland could become, join us for a thought-provoking exploration of Disney&apos;s most philosophically complex land. As one audience member aptly suggested: perhaps it&apos;s time to encourage guests not just to remember the optimistic futures of yesterday, but to imagine new ones for tomorrow.</p><p><br/></p><p>==========================================================================</p><p>Visit our friends from the episode at:</p><p>Our host, Paul Barrie from Window to the Magic (https://www.windowtothemagic.com)<br/><br/>Tracey and Scott from Disney Indiana (https://disneyindiana.com)<br/><br/>Clinton from Comedy4Cast (comedy4cast.com)/The Topic is Trek (https://www.thetopicistrek.com/)<br/><br/>Tony from Above the Firehouse (https://www.abovethefirehouse.com)<br/><br/>Our good friend Jill booked our travel for us.  She&apos;s terrific.  Reach out to her at jill@touringandcruises.com</p><p>Thanks for listening!<br/><br/>We&apos;d love it if you would give us a review on your podcast platform of choice: iTunes, Spotify, etc... They&apos;re really helpful.</p><p><br/>And get in touch and let us know about YOUR Plus-Ups for the attractions we&apos;ve talked about!  We&apos;d love to tell them on the air.<br/><br/>Come visit us on <a href='https://bsky.app/profile/lowdown-plus-up.bsky.social'>Bluesky</a>, Mastodon, <a href='https://www.instagram.com/lowdownplusup/'>Instagram</a>, or whatever social media you like. Just look up Lowdown on the Plus-Up and you&apos;ll probably find us.  Or drop us a note to comments@lowdown-plus-up.com and let us know any questions or comments about how YOU would like to plus-something-up!<br/> <br/>We are a Boardwalk Times production.<br/>Boardwalk Times, https://boardwalktimes.net/<br/>Boardwalk Times store, https://boardwalktimes.store .<br/><br/></p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <itunes:author>Kelly and Pete</itunes:author>
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    <pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2025 03:00:00 -0700</pubDate>
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    <itunes:title>Fire and Baby Oil - Conan: A Sword and Sorcery Spectacular</itunes:title>
    <title>Fire and Baby Oil - Conan: A Sword and Sorcery Spectacular</title>
    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Send us Fan Mail Step back into the age of sword and sorcery as we unravel the untold story of Universal Studios' most dangerous and innovative attraction: the Conan the Barbarian Sword and Sorcery Spectacular. This legendary stunt show wasn't just entertainment—it was a revolution that forever changed how theme parks approach live experiences.  From Robert E. Howard's complex literary character to Frank Frazetta's iconic artistic vision and Arnold Schwarzenegger's silver screen portrayal, we...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/2335588/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>Step back into the age of sword and sorcery as we unravel the untold story of Universal Studios&apos; most dangerous and innovative attraction: the Conan the Barbarian Sword and Sorcery Spectacular. This legendary stunt show wasn&apos;t just entertainment—it was a revolution that forever changed how theme parks approach live experiences.<br/><br/>From Robert E. Howard&apos;s complex literary character to Frank Frazetta&apos;s iconic artistic vision and Arnold Schwarzenegger&apos;s silver screen portrayal, we trace Conan&apos;s evolution before diving deep into the attraction that dared to use real fire, military-grade lasers, and death-defying stunts to wow audiences. The show&apos;s creation marked the moment Universal deliberately established itself as the &quot;anti-Disney,&quot; poaching Imagineers and pushing boundaries Disney wouldn&apos;t touch.<br/><br/></p><p>What forgotten theme park attractions do you wish would return? Share your memories with us on our Facebook group or at comments@lowdown-plus-up.com!<br/><br/>=========================================<br/>Notes: de Camp editing - http://www.barbariankeep.com/issues.html<br/>Planet of the Apes article: https://boardwalktimes.net/disney-drops-the-finest-science-fiction-film-series-of-all-time-on-hulu-4c1a03f1329d</p><p><br/>Chronology of the Castle Theater: The Land of a Thousand Faces (1975-1980), Castle Dracula Live (1980-1983), The Adventures of Conan: A Sword and Sorcery Spectacular (1983-1993), Beetlejuice&apos;s Rock and Roll Graveyard Review (1991-1999), Spider-Man Rocks (2002-2004), Fear Factor Live (2005-2008), Creature from the Black Lagoon: The Musical (2009), Special Effects Show (2010-2023), Theater Closed for Fast &amp; Furious coaster.</p><p>Thanks for listening!<br/><br/>We&apos;d love it if you would give us a review on your podcast platform of choice: iTunes, Spotify, etc... They&apos;re really helpful.</p><p><br/>And get in touch and let us know about YOUR Plus-Ups for the attractions we&apos;ve talked about!  We&apos;d love to tell them on the air.<br/><br/>Come visit us on <a href='https://bsky.app/profile/lowdown-plus-up.bsky.social'>Bluesky</a>, Mastodon, <a href='https://www.instagram.com/lowdownplusup/'>Instagram</a>, or whatever social media you like. Just look up Lowdown on the Plus-Up and you&apos;ll probably find us.  Or drop us a note to comments@lowdown-plus-up.com and let us know any questions or comments about how YOU would like to plus-something-up!<br/> <br/>We are a Boardwalk Times production.<br/>Boardwalk Times, https://boardwalktimes.net/<br/>Boardwalk Times store, https://boardwalktimes.store .<br/><br/></p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/2335588/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>Step back into the age of sword and sorcery as we unravel the untold story of Universal Studios&apos; most dangerous and innovative attraction: the Conan the Barbarian Sword and Sorcery Spectacular. This legendary stunt show wasn&apos;t just entertainment—it was a revolution that forever changed how theme parks approach live experiences.<br/><br/>From Robert E. Howard&apos;s complex literary character to Frank Frazetta&apos;s iconic artistic vision and Arnold Schwarzenegger&apos;s silver screen portrayal, we trace Conan&apos;s evolution before diving deep into the attraction that dared to use real fire, military-grade lasers, and death-defying stunts to wow audiences. The show&apos;s creation marked the moment Universal deliberately established itself as the &quot;anti-Disney,&quot; poaching Imagineers and pushing boundaries Disney wouldn&apos;t touch.<br/><br/></p><p>What forgotten theme park attractions do you wish would return? Share your memories with us on our Facebook group or at comments@lowdown-plus-up.com!<br/><br/>=========================================<br/>Notes: de Camp editing - http://www.barbariankeep.com/issues.html<br/>Planet of the Apes article: https://boardwalktimes.net/disney-drops-the-finest-science-fiction-film-series-of-all-time-on-hulu-4c1a03f1329d</p><p><br/>Chronology of the Castle Theater: The Land of a Thousand Faces (1975-1980), Castle Dracula Live (1980-1983), The Adventures of Conan: A Sword and Sorcery Spectacular (1983-1993), Beetlejuice&apos;s Rock and Roll Graveyard Review (1991-1999), Spider-Man Rocks (2002-2004), Fear Factor Live (2005-2008), Creature from the Black Lagoon: The Musical (2009), Special Effects Show (2010-2023), Theater Closed for Fast &amp; Furious coaster.</p><p>Thanks for listening!<br/><br/>We&apos;d love it if you would give us a review on your podcast platform of choice: iTunes, Spotify, etc... They&apos;re really helpful.</p><p><br/>And get in touch and let us know about YOUR Plus-Ups for the attractions we&apos;ve talked about!  We&apos;d love to tell them on the air.<br/><br/>Come visit us on <a href='https://bsky.app/profile/lowdown-plus-up.bsky.social'>Bluesky</a>, Mastodon, <a href='https://www.instagram.com/lowdownplusup/'>Instagram</a>, or whatever social media you like. Just look up Lowdown on the Plus-Up and you&apos;ll probably find us.  Or drop us a note to comments@lowdown-plus-up.com and let us know any questions or comments about how YOU would like to plus-something-up!<br/> <br/>We are a Boardwalk Times production.<br/>Boardwalk Times, https://boardwalktimes.net/<br/>Boardwalk Times store, https://boardwalktimes.store .<br/><br/></p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <itunes:author>Kelly and Pete</itunes:author>
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    <pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2025 03:00:00 -0700</pubDate>
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  <psc:chapter start="1:01:10" title="The Masters of the Universe Connection" />
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    <itunes:title>The Rocket Belt Saga Part Two - Biddy, Biddy, Murder!</itunes:title>
    <title>The Rocket Belt Saga Part Two - Biddy, Biddy, Murder!</title>
    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Send us Fan Mail Join us for part two of the strangest story we've told thus far. The 1990s launch with a particularly charming story about jet packs, The Rocketeer. But then Kinnie Gibson, Brad Barker, Larry Stanley and Bill Suitor return to pick up a story that involves assault, murder, kidnapping and a giant flying beer can. Strap in! And remember, when the helmet vibrates, you only have 14 seconds to find a place to land!  ============================================================  Note...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/2335588/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>Join us for part two of the strangest story we&apos;ve told thus far.<br/>The 1990s launch with a particularly charming story about jet packs, The Rocketeer. But then Kinnie Gibson, Brad Barker, Larry Stanley and Bill Suitor return to pick up a story that involves assault, murder, kidnapping and a giant flying beer can.<br/>Strap in! And remember, when the helmet vibrates, you only have 14 seconds to find a place to land!<br/><br/>============================================================<br/><br/>Notes:<br/>Rondo Hatten - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rondo_Hatton<br/>The RB 2000 - http://www.inventordoug.com/07RocketBelt/Rocket02.htm<br/>Jaxxon - https://screenrant.com/star-wars-jaxxon-special-ewoks-mignola-cover/</p><p>Thanks for listening!<br/><br/>We&apos;d love it if you would give us a review on your podcast platform of choice: iTunes, Spotify, etc... They&apos;re really helpful.</p><p><br/>And get in touch and let us know about YOUR Plus-Ups for the attractions we&apos;ve talked about!  We&apos;d love to tell them on the air.<br/><br/>Come visit us on <a href='https://bsky.app/profile/lowdown-plus-up.bsky.social'>Bluesky</a>, Mastodon, <a href='https://www.instagram.com/lowdownplusup/'>Instagram</a>, or whatever social media you like. Just look up Lowdown on the Plus-Up and you&apos;ll probably find us.  Or drop us a note to comments@lowdown-plus-up.com and let us know any questions or comments about how YOU would like to plus-something-up!<br/> <br/>We are a Boardwalk Times production.<br/>Boardwalk Times, https://boardwalktimes.net/<br/>Boardwalk Times store, https://boardwalktimes.store .<br/><br/></p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/2335588/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>Join us for part two of the strangest story we&apos;ve told thus far.<br/>The 1990s launch with a particularly charming story about jet packs, The Rocketeer. But then Kinnie Gibson, Brad Barker, Larry Stanley and Bill Suitor return to pick up a story that involves assault, murder, kidnapping and a giant flying beer can.<br/>Strap in! And remember, when the helmet vibrates, you only have 14 seconds to find a place to land!<br/><br/>============================================================<br/><br/>Notes:<br/>Rondo Hatten - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rondo_Hatton<br/>The RB 2000 - http://www.inventordoug.com/07RocketBelt/Rocket02.htm<br/>Jaxxon - https://screenrant.com/star-wars-jaxxon-special-ewoks-mignola-cover/</p><p>Thanks for listening!<br/><br/>We&apos;d love it if you would give us a review on your podcast platform of choice: iTunes, Spotify, etc... They&apos;re really helpful.</p><p><br/>And get in touch and let us know about YOUR Plus-Ups for the attractions we&apos;ve talked about!  We&apos;d love to tell them on the air.<br/><br/>Come visit us on <a href='https://bsky.app/profile/lowdown-plus-up.bsky.social'>Bluesky</a>, Mastodon, <a href='https://www.instagram.com/lowdownplusup/'>Instagram</a>, or whatever social media you like. Just look up Lowdown on the Plus-Up and you&apos;ll probably find us.  Or drop us a note to comments@lowdown-plus-up.com and let us know any questions or comments about how YOU would like to plus-something-up!<br/> <br/>We are a Boardwalk Times production.<br/>Boardwalk Times, https://boardwalktimes.net/<br/>Boardwalk Times store, https://boardwalktimes.store .<br/><br/></p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <itunes:author>Kelly and Pete</itunes:author>
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    <pubDate>Sun, 30 Mar 2025 11:00:00 -0700</pubDate>
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    <itunes:title>The Rocket Belt Saga Part 1 - Twenty-One Seconds</itunes:title>
    <title>The Rocket Belt Saga Part 1 - Twenty-One Seconds</title>
    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Send us Fan Mail What if I told you that the man who flew above Disneyland's Tomorrowland in the 1960s wasn't on wires, but strapped to actual jet engines? The remarkable true story of the rocket belt at Disney parks is more fascinating—and bizarre—than you might imagine.  Kelly and Pete explore the surprising origins of personal flight technology, beginning with Wendell Moore of Bell Aeronautics, who adapted stabilization jets from Chuck Yeager's sound barrier-breaking X-1 aircraft into a we...]]></itunes:summary>
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    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/2335588/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>What if I told you that the man who flew above Disneyland&apos;s Tomorrowland in the 1960s wasn&apos;t on wires, but strapped to actual jet engines? The remarkable true story of the rocket belt at Disney parks is more fascinating—and bizarre—than you might imagine.<br/><br/>Kelly and Pete explore the surprising origins of personal flight technology, beginning with Wendell Moore of Bell Aeronautics, who adapted stabilization jets from Chuck Yeager&apos;s sound barrier-breaking X-1 aircraft into a wearable rocket pack. Though limited to just 21 seconds of flight time and powered by 90% pure hydrogen peroxide, these devices captured worldwide imagination, appearing not just at Disneyland and Disney World, but at presidential demonstrations, the 1984 Olympics opening ceremony, and in James Bond&apos;s &quot;Thunderball.&quot;<br/><br/>The rocket belt&apos;s journey through entertainment history connects fascinating dots between science fiction and reality. From Buck Rogers&apos; &quot;jumping belt&quot; of 1920s comics to Commando Cody&apos;s rocket adventures in 1950s film serials, America had been primed to embrace personal flight long before it became technically possible. When Disney showcased these devices above Tomorrowland, they were fulfilling dreams decades in the making.<br/><br/>But this is just the beginning of a story that grows increasingly strange. As competing rocket belt designs emerge, the narrative takes unexpected turns involving lawn-mowing teenagers who became rocket men, alleged drug smuggling operations, baseball bat confrontations, stolen equipment, and the birth of troubling rivalries that will ultimately lead to truly startling consequences.<br/><br/>This first installment of a two-part rocket belt saga lifts off from the Flight Circle of yesterday&apos;s Tomorrowland and soars through a landscape where Disney history intersects with one of technology&apos;s most persistently appealing—yet perpetually impractical—dreams. Join us next time as the story grows even more unbelievable.</p><p>==================================================================</p><p>Show Notes: Bill Suitor is his name, not Robert as Kelly says early on.<br/><br/>Dr. Theopolis on Buck Rogers was voiced by Howard F. Flynn.<br/><br/>It&apos;s actually unclear if Tommy Walker booked the Bell Rocketbelt team for the 1964 World&apos;s Fair. He did, however, book Suitor to fly the RocketBelt for the 1984 Olympic Games opening as well as the team&apos;s 1965 and 1967 appearances at Disneyland.<br/>Walker, by the way, also composed the six-note &quot;Charge!&quot; fanfare heard at American sporting events.<br/><br/>Astronaut Charles Duke: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Duke<br/><br/>Kelly is playing fast and loose with the attraction naming. Rocket to the Moon (1955), Flight to the Moon (1967), Mission to Mars (1975).<br/><br/></p><p>The Jetbelt guys actually could have launched from the location of the former Flying Saucers ride in 1967 because it had been converted to the Tomorrowland stage.<br/><br/>Technical Debt at Disneyland article - https://boardwalktimes.net/the-cost-of-endless-magic-theme-parks-and-technical-debt-73a4bb29bb24<br/><br/>Jaxxon!  https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Jaxxon_T._Tumperakki</p><p>Thanks for listening!<br/><br/>We&apos;d love it if you would give us a review on your podcast platform of choice: iTunes, Spotify, etc... They&apos;re really helpful.</p><p><br/>And get in touch and let us know about YOUR Plus-Ups for the attractions we&apos;ve talked about!  We&apos;d love to tell them on the air.<br/><br/>Come visit us on <a href='https://bsky.app/profile/lowdown-plus-up.bsky.social'>Bluesky</a>, Mastodon, <a href='https://www.instagram.com/lowdownplusup/'>Instagram</a>, or whatever social media you like. Just look up Lowdown on the Plus-Up and you&apos;ll probably find us.  Or drop us a note to comments@lowdown-plus-up.com and let us know any questions or comments about how YOU would like to plus-something-up!<br/> <br/>We are a Boardwalk Times production.<br/>Boardwalk Times, https://boardwalktimes.net/<br/>Boardwalk Times store, https://boardwalktimes.store .<br/><br/></p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Send us Fan Mail A quick note between talking about the Prince of Darkness and the Darkness of the Future! Full episode coming very soon. Thanks for listening!  We'd love it if you would give us a review on your podcast platform of choice: iTunes, Spotify, etc... They're really helpful.  And get in touch and let us know about YOUR Plus-Ups for the attractions we've talked about!  We'd love to tell them on the air.  Come visit us on Bluesky, Mastodon, Instagram, or whatever social media y...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/2335588/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>A quick note between talking about the Prince of Darkness and the Darkness of the Future!<br/>Full episode coming very soon.</p><p>Thanks for listening!<br/><br/>We&apos;d love it if you would give us a review on your podcast platform of choice: iTunes, Spotify, etc... They&apos;re really helpful.</p><p><br/>And get in touch and let us know about YOUR Plus-Ups for the attractions we&apos;ve talked about!  We&apos;d love to tell them on the air.<br/><br/>Come visit us on <a href='https://bsky.app/profile/lowdown-plus-up.bsky.social'>Bluesky</a>, Mastodon, <a href='https://www.instagram.com/lowdownplusup/'>Instagram</a>, or whatever social media you like. Just look up Lowdown on the Plus-Up and you&apos;ll probably find us.  Or drop us a note to comments@lowdown-plus-up.com and let us know any questions or comments about how YOU would like to plus-something-up!<br/> <br/>We are a Boardwalk Times production.<br/>Boardwalk Times, https://boardwalktimes.net/<br/>Boardwalk Times store, https://boardwalktimes.store .<br/><br/></p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/2335588/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>A quick note between talking about the Prince of Darkness and the Darkness of the Future!<br/>Full episode coming very soon.</p><p>Thanks for listening!<br/><br/>We&apos;d love it if you would give us a review on your podcast platform of choice: iTunes, Spotify, etc... They&apos;re really helpful.</p><p><br/>And get in touch and let us know about YOUR Plus-Ups for the attractions we&apos;ve talked about!  We&apos;d love to tell them on the air.<br/><br/>Come visit us on <a href='https://bsky.app/profile/lowdown-plus-up.bsky.social'>Bluesky</a>, Mastodon, <a href='https://www.instagram.com/lowdownplusup/'>Instagram</a>, or whatever social media you like. Just look up Lowdown on the Plus-Up and you&apos;ll probably find us.  Or drop us a note to comments@lowdown-plus-up.com and let us know any questions or comments about how YOU would like to plus-something-up!<br/> <br/>We are a Boardwalk Times production.<br/>Boardwalk Times, https://boardwalktimes.net/<br/>Boardwalk Times store, https://boardwalktimes.store .<br/><br/></p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <description><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/2335588/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>In part two of Transylvanian Tumbleweeds we explore the legacy of Dracula-themed attractions, particularly focusing on the Castle Dracula experience at Universal Studios. We discuss the concept of the &quot;JayBang&quot; introduced by Jay Stein and the challenges faced as audience tastes shifted, leading to innovative adaptations in modern amusement parks.<br/><br/>• Exploration of Universal Studios&apos; background <br/>• Delving into the concept of &quot;JayBang&quot; <br/>• Nostalgia surrounding Castle Dracula <br/>• The impact of cultural changes on horror representation <br/>• Insights into Bill Tracy&apos;s influence in theme park design <br/>• Upcoming Universal Horror Land discussions <br/><br/></p><p>Thanks for listening!<br/><br/>We&apos;d love it if you would give us a review on your podcast platform of choice: iTunes, Spotify, etc... They&apos;re really helpful.</p><p><br/>And get in touch and let us know about YOUR Plus-Ups for the attractions we&apos;ve talked about!  We&apos;d love to tell them on the air.<br/><br/>Come visit us on <a href='https://bsky.app/profile/lowdown-plus-up.bsky.social'>Bluesky</a>, Mastodon, <a href='https://www.instagram.com/lowdownplusup/'>Instagram</a>, or whatever social media you like. Just look up Lowdown on the Plus-Up and you&apos;ll probably find us.  Or drop us a note to comments@lowdown-plus-up.com and let us know any questions or comments about how YOU would like to plus-something-up!<br/> <br/>We are a Boardwalk Times production.<br/>Boardwalk Times, https://boardwalktimes.net/<br/>Boardwalk Times store, https://boardwalktimes.store .<br/><br/></p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/2335588/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>In part two of Transylvanian Tumbleweeds we explore the legacy of Dracula-themed attractions, particularly focusing on the Castle Dracula experience at Universal Studios. We discuss the concept of the &quot;JayBang&quot; introduced by Jay Stein and the challenges faced as audience tastes shifted, leading to innovative adaptations in modern amusement parks.<br/><br/>• Exploration of Universal Studios&apos; background <br/>• Delving into the concept of &quot;JayBang&quot; <br/>• Nostalgia surrounding Castle Dracula <br/>• The impact of cultural changes on horror representation <br/>• Insights into Bill Tracy&apos;s influence in theme park design <br/>• Upcoming Universal Horror Land discussions <br/><br/></p><p>Thanks for listening!<br/><br/>We&apos;d love it if you would give us a review on your podcast platform of choice: iTunes, Spotify, etc... They&apos;re really helpful.</p><p><br/>And get in touch and let us know about YOUR Plus-Ups for the attractions we&apos;ve talked about!  We&apos;d love to tell them on the air.<br/><br/>Come visit us on <a href='https://bsky.app/profile/lowdown-plus-up.bsky.social'>Bluesky</a>, Mastodon, <a href='https://www.instagram.com/lowdownplusup/'>Instagram</a>, or whatever social media you like. Just look up Lowdown on the Plus-Up and you&apos;ll probably find us.  Or drop us a note to comments@lowdown-plus-up.com and let us know any questions or comments about how YOU would like to plus-something-up!<br/> <br/>We are a Boardwalk Times production.<br/>Boardwalk Times, https://boardwalktimes.net/<br/>Boardwalk Times store, https://boardwalktimes.store .<br/><br/></p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Send us Fan Mail In part one of our exploration of the Transylvanian tyrant turned tourist trap, we break down some of Dracula's origins. Don't worry, this is not going to be that same old "Dracula is based on Vlad the Impaler" lecture that you've already heard. It's much stranger than that. And much more wonderful. Then we start to place the good Count into some of his earliest theme park appearances. Part 2 should be up next week! Thanks for listening!  We'd love it if you would give us a r...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/2335588/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>In part one of our exploration of the Transylvanian tyrant turned tourist trap, we break down some of Dracula&apos;s origins. Don&apos;t worry, this is not going to be that same old &quot;Dracula is based on Vlad the Impaler&quot; lecture that you&apos;ve already heard. It&apos;s much stranger than that. And much more wonderful.<br/>Then we start to place the good Count into some of his earliest theme park appearances.<br/>Part 2 should be up next week!</p><p>Thanks for listening!<br/><br/>We&apos;d love it if you would give us a review on your podcast platform of choice: iTunes, Spotify, etc... They&apos;re really helpful.</p><p><br/>And get in touch and let us know about YOUR Plus-Ups for the attractions we&apos;ve talked about!  We&apos;d love to tell them on the air.<br/><br/>Come visit us on <a href='https://bsky.app/profile/lowdown-plus-up.bsky.social'>Bluesky</a>, Mastodon, <a href='https://www.instagram.com/lowdownplusup/'>Instagram</a>, or whatever social media you like. Just look up Lowdown on the Plus-Up and you&apos;ll probably find us.  Or drop us a note to comments@lowdown-plus-up.com and let us know any questions or comments about how YOU would like to plus-something-up!<br/> <br/>We are a Boardwalk Times production.<br/>Boardwalk Times, https://boardwalktimes.net/<br/>Boardwalk Times store, https://boardwalktimes.store .<br/><br/></p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/2335588/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>In part one of our exploration of the Transylvanian tyrant turned tourist trap, we break down some of Dracula&apos;s origins. Don&apos;t worry, this is not going to be that same old &quot;Dracula is based on Vlad the Impaler&quot; lecture that you&apos;ve already heard. It&apos;s much stranger than that. And much more wonderful.<br/>Then we start to place the good Count into some of his earliest theme park appearances.<br/>Part 2 should be up next week!</p><p>Thanks for listening!<br/><br/>We&apos;d love it if you would give us a review on your podcast platform of choice: iTunes, Spotify, etc... They&apos;re really helpful.</p><p><br/>And get in touch and let us know about YOUR Plus-Ups for the attractions we&apos;ve talked about!  We&apos;d love to tell them on the air.<br/><br/>Come visit us on <a href='https://bsky.app/profile/lowdown-plus-up.bsky.social'>Bluesky</a>, Mastodon, <a href='https://www.instagram.com/lowdownplusup/'>Instagram</a>, or whatever social media you like. Just look up Lowdown on the Plus-Up and you&apos;ll probably find us.  Or drop us a note to comments@lowdown-plus-up.com and let us know any questions or comments about how YOU would like to plus-something-up!<br/> <br/>We are a Boardwalk Times production.<br/>Boardwalk Times, https://boardwalktimes.net/<br/>Boardwalk Times store, https://boardwalktimes.store .<br/><br/></p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <itunes:title>Tropic Standard Time with Ken Bruce - The Enchanted Tiki Room</itunes:title>
    <title>Tropic Standard Time with Ken Bruce - The Enchanted Tiki Room</title>
    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Send us Fan Mail Ken Bruce spent 16 years researching and writing about the most important piece of theme park pop art ever made: Walt Disney's Enchanted Tiki Room. The resulting book not only tells the history of that attraction, but serves to show how its story is the story of how we see the modern theme park as a whole. Ken was kind enough to spend some time talking with us about his book and the stories and myths surrounding Walt Disney's most personal attraction which, over six decades l...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/2335588/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>Ken Bruce spent 16 years researching and writing about the most important piece of theme park pop art ever made: Walt Disney&apos;s Enchanted Tiki Room. The resulting book not only tells the history of that attraction, but serves to show how its story is the story of how we see the modern theme park as a whole.<br/>Ken was kind enough to spend some time talking with us about his book and the stories and myths surrounding Walt Disney&apos;s most personal attraction which, over six decades later, is still delighting audiences at Disneyland.<br/><br/>His book &quot;Before the Birds Sang Words&quot; is available at Amazon or from his website, https://www.tikiroom63.com.</p><p>Thanks for listening!<br/><br/>We&apos;d love it if you would give us a review on your podcast platform of choice: iTunes, Spotify, etc... They&apos;re really helpful.</p><p><br/>And get in touch and let us know about YOUR Plus-Ups for the attractions we&apos;ve talked about!  We&apos;d love to tell them on the air.<br/><br/>Come visit us on <a href='https://bsky.app/profile/lowdown-plus-up.bsky.social'>Bluesky</a>, Mastodon, <a href='https://www.instagram.com/lowdownplusup/'>Instagram</a>, or whatever social media you like. Just look up Lowdown on the Plus-Up and you&apos;ll probably find us.  Or drop us a note to comments@lowdown-plus-up.com and let us know any questions or comments about how YOU would like to plus-something-up!<br/> <br/>We are a Boardwalk Times production.<br/>Boardwalk Times, https://boardwalktimes.net/<br/>Boardwalk Times store, https://boardwalktimes.store .<br/><br/></p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/2335588/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>Ken Bruce spent 16 years researching and writing about the most important piece of theme park pop art ever made: Walt Disney&apos;s Enchanted Tiki Room. The resulting book not only tells the history of that attraction, but serves to show how its story is the story of how we see the modern theme park as a whole.<br/>Ken was kind enough to spend some time talking with us about his book and the stories and myths surrounding Walt Disney&apos;s most personal attraction which, over six decades later, is still delighting audiences at Disneyland.<br/><br/>His book &quot;Before the Birds Sang Words&quot; is available at Amazon or from his website, https://www.tikiroom63.com.</p><p>Thanks for listening!<br/><br/>We&apos;d love it if you would give us a review on your podcast platform of choice: iTunes, Spotify, etc... They&apos;re really helpful.</p><p><br/>And get in touch and let us know about YOUR Plus-Ups for the attractions we&apos;ve talked about!  We&apos;d love to tell them on the air.<br/><br/>Come visit us on <a href='https://bsky.app/profile/lowdown-plus-up.bsky.social'>Bluesky</a>, Mastodon, <a href='https://www.instagram.com/lowdownplusup/'>Instagram</a>, or whatever social media you like. Just look up Lowdown on the Plus-Up and you&apos;ll probably find us.  Or drop us a note to comments@lowdown-plus-up.com and let us know any questions or comments about how YOU would like to plus-something-up!<br/> <br/>We are a Boardwalk Times production.<br/>Boardwalk Times, https://boardwalktimes.net/<br/>Boardwalk Times store, https://boardwalktimes.store .<br/><br/></p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <itunes:author>Kelly and Pete</itunes:author>
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    <pubDate>Tue, 14 Jan 2025 17:00:00 -0800</pubDate>
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    <itunes:title>Plywood Hurts if You Hit it Hard Enough - Mr. Toad&#39;s Wild Ride</itunes:title>
    <title>Plywood Hurts if You Hit it Hard Enough - Mr. Toad&#39;s Wild Ride</title>
    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Send us Fan Mail An opening day attraction in both Disneyland and Walt Disney World, Mr. Toad is surprising fan favorite given that it plays like an outtake of a film that not that many people have seen and ends in punishment. We love it. Join us for an exploration of the ride that started Claude Coats' theme park career: Mr. Toad's Wild Ride!   Thanks for listening!  We'd love it if you would give us a review on your podcast platform of choice: iTunes, Spotify, etc... They're really helpful....]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/2335588/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>An opening day attraction in both Disneyland and Walt Disney World, Mr. Toad is surprising fan favorite given that it plays like an outtake of a film that not that many people have seen and ends in punishment.<br/>We love it.<br/>Join us for an exploration of the ride that started Claude Coats&apos; theme park career: Mr. Toad&apos;s Wild Ride!<br/><br/></p><p>Thanks for listening!<br/><br/>We&apos;d love it if you would give us a review on your podcast platform of choice: iTunes, Spotify, etc... They&apos;re really helpful.</p><p><br/>And get in touch and let us know about YOUR Plus-Ups for the attractions we&apos;ve talked about!  We&apos;d love to tell them on the air.<br/><br/>Come visit us on <a href='https://bsky.app/profile/lowdown-plus-up.bsky.social'>Bluesky</a>, Mastodon, <a href='https://www.instagram.com/lowdownplusup/'>Instagram</a>, or whatever social media you like. Just look up Lowdown on the Plus-Up and you&apos;ll probably find us.  Or drop us a note to comments@lowdown-plus-up.com and let us know any questions or comments about how YOU would like to plus-something-up!<br/> <br/>We are a Boardwalk Times production.<br/>Boardwalk Times, https://boardwalktimes.net/<br/>Boardwalk Times store, https://boardwalktimes.store .<br/><br/></p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/2335588/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>An opening day attraction in both Disneyland and Walt Disney World, Mr. Toad is surprising fan favorite given that it plays like an outtake of a film that not that many people have seen and ends in punishment.<br/>We love it.<br/>Join us for an exploration of the ride that started Claude Coats&apos; theme park career: Mr. Toad&apos;s Wild Ride!<br/><br/></p><p>Thanks for listening!<br/><br/>We&apos;d love it if you would give us a review on your podcast platform of choice: iTunes, Spotify, etc... They&apos;re really helpful.</p><p><br/>And get in touch and let us know about YOUR Plus-Ups for the attractions we&apos;ve talked about!  We&apos;d love to tell them on the air.<br/><br/>Come visit us on <a href='https://bsky.app/profile/lowdown-plus-up.bsky.social'>Bluesky</a>, Mastodon, <a href='https://www.instagram.com/lowdownplusup/'>Instagram</a>, or whatever social media you like. Just look up Lowdown on the Plus-Up and you&apos;ll probably find us.  Or drop us a note to comments@lowdown-plus-up.com and let us know any questions or comments about how YOU would like to plus-something-up!<br/> <br/>We are a Boardwalk Times production.<br/>Boardwalk Times, https://boardwalktimes.net/<br/>Boardwalk Times store, https://boardwalktimes.store .<br/><br/></p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <itunes:author>Kelly and Pete</itunes:author>
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    <pubDate>Sun, 08 Dec 2024 17:00:00 -0800</pubDate>
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    <itunes:title>Embracing the Snowflake - Adventure Thru Inner Space</itunes:title>
    <title>Embracing the Snowflake - Adventure Thru Inner Space</title>
    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Send us Fan Mail It's one of the quirkiest theme park attractions of all time. Disneyland, for the first time ever, took on pure science fiction and hit it out of the park. It was like riding through an episode of "Outer Limits" or "Twilight Zone" (and was notably influenced by "Twilight Zone" writer Richard Matheson) and was unique in its effective simplicity and brilliance of design. Join us as we revisit one of our favorite attractions of all time, Monsanto's "Adventure Thru Inner Space!" ...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/2335588/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>It&apos;s one of the quirkiest theme park attractions of all time. Disneyland, for the first time ever, took on pure science fiction and hit it out of the park. It was like riding through an episode of &quot;Outer Limits&quot; or &quot;Twilight Zone&quot; (and was notably influenced by &quot;Twilight Zone&quot; writer Richard Matheson) and was unique in its effective simplicity and brilliance of design.<br/>Join us as we revisit one of our favorite attractions of all time, Monsanto&apos;s &quot;Adventure Thru Inner Space!&quot;<br/> “For though your body will shrink, your mind will expand!”</p><p>Thanks for listening!<br/><br/>We&apos;d love it if you would give us a review on your podcast platform of choice: iTunes, Spotify, etc... They&apos;re really helpful.</p><p><br/>And get in touch and let us know about YOUR Plus-Ups for the attractions we&apos;ve talked about!  We&apos;d love to tell them on the air.<br/><br/>Come visit us on <a href='https://bsky.app/profile/lowdown-plus-up.bsky.social'>Bluesky</a>, Mastodon, <a href='https://www.instagram.com/lowdownplusup/'>Instagram</a>, or whatever social media you like. Just look up Lowdown on the Plus-Up and you&apos;ll probably find us.  Or drop us a note to comments@lowdown-plus-up.com and let us know any questions or comments about how YOU would like to plus-something-up!<br/> <br/>We are a Boardwalk Times production.<br/>Boardwalk Times, https://boardwalktimes.net/<br/>Boardwalk Times store, https://boardwalktimes.store .<br/><br/></p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/2335588/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>It&apos;s one of the quirkiest theme park attractions of all time. Disneyland, for the first time ever, took on pure science fiction and hit it out of the park. It was like riding through an episode of &quot;Outer Limits&quot; or &quot;Twilight Zone&quot; (and was notably influenced by &quot;Twilight Zone&quot; writer Richard Matheson) and was unique in its effective simplicity and brilliance of design.<br/>Join us as we revisit one of our favorite attractions of all time, Monsanto&apos;s &quot;Adventure Thru Inner Space!&quot;<br/> “For though your body will shrink, your mind will expand!”</p><p>Thanks for listening!<br/><br/>We&apos;d love it if you would give us a review on your podcast platform of choice: iTunes, Spotify, etc... They&apos;re really helpful.</p><p><br/>And get in touch and let us know about YOUR Plus-Ups for the attractions we&apos;ve talked about!  We&apos;d love to tell them on the air.<br/><br/>Come visit us on <a href='https://bsky.app/profile/lowdown-plus-up.bsky.social'>Bluesky</a>, Mastodon, <a href='https://www.instagram.com/lowdownplusup/'>Instagram</a>, or whatever social media you like. Just look up Lowdown on the Plus-Up and you&apos;ll probably find us.  Or drop us a note to comments@lowdown-plus-up.com and let us know any questions or comments about how YOU would like to plus-something-up!<br/> <br/>We are a Boardwalk Times production.<br/>Boardwalk Times, https://boardwalktimes.net/<br/>Boardwalk Times store, https://boardwalktimes.store .<br/><br/></p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <itunes:author>Kelly and Pete</itunes:author>
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    <pubDate>Mon, 25 Nov 2024 09:00:00 -0800</pubDate>
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    <itunes:title>Minnie-sode: An Evermore Update - Master Blaster Rules Realm Town!</itunes:title>
    <title>Minnie-sode: An Evermore Update - Master Blaster Rules Realm Town!</title>
    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Send us Fan Mail Another amuse-bouche one between the big shows. Let us know if you like these. And review us on your podcast platform of choice, please.  We'd really appreciate it.   Thanks for listening!  We'd love it if you would give us a review on your podcast platform of choice: iTunes, Spotify, etc... They're really helpful.  And get in touch and let us know about YOUR Plus-Ups for the attractions we've talked about!  We'd love to tell them on the air.  Come visit us on Blues...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/2335588/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>Another amuse-bouche one between the big shows.<br/>Let us know if you like these.<br/>And review us on your podcast platform of choice, please.  We&apos;d really appreciate it.<br/><br/></p><p>Thanks for listening!<br/><br/>We&apos;d love it if you would give us a review on your podcast platform of choice: iTunes, Spotify, etc... They&apos;re really helpful.</p><p><br/>And get in touch and let us know about YOUR Plus-Ups for the attractions we&apos;ve talked about!  We&apos;d love to tell them on the air.<br/><br/>Come visit us on <a href='https://bsky.app/profile/lowdown-plus-up.bsky.social'>Bluesky</a>, Mastodon, <a href='https://www.instagram.com/lowdownplusup/'>Instagram</a>, or whatever social media you like. Just look up Lowdown on the Plus-Up and you&apos;ll probably find us.  Or drop us a note to comments@lowdown-plus-up.com and let us know any questions or comments about how YOU would like to plus-something-up!<br/> <br/>We are a Boardwalk Times production.<br/>Boardwalk Times, https://boardwalktimes.net/<br/>Boardwalk Times store, https://boardwalktimes.store .<br/><br/></p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/2335588/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>Another amuse-bouche one between the big shows.<br/>Let us know if you like these.<br/>And review us on your podcast platform of choice, please.  We&apos;d really appreciate it.<br/><br/></p><p>Thanks for listening!<br/><br/>We&apos;d love it if you would give us a review on your podcast platform of choice: iTunes, Spotify, etc... They&apos;re really helpful.</p><p><br/>And get in touch and let us know about YOUR Plus-Ups for the attractions we&apos;ve talked about!  We&apos;d love to tell them on the air.<br/><br/>Come visit us on <a href='https://bsky.app/profile/lowdown-plus-up.bsky.social'>Bluesky</a>, Mastodon, <a href='https://www.instagram.com/lowdownplusup/'>Instagram</a>, or whatever social media you like. Just look up Lowdown on the Plus-Up and you&apos;ll probably find us.  Or drop us a note to comments@lowdown-plus-up.com and let us know any questions or comments about how YOU would like to plus-something-up!<br/> <br/>We are a Boardwalk Times production.<br/>Boardwalk Times, https://boardwalktimes.net/<br/>Boardwalk Times store, https://boardwalktimes.store .<br/><br/></p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <itunes:title>You Will Believe a Goat Can Fly - Frontier Village</itunes:title>
    <title>You Will Believe a Goat Can Fly - Frontier Village</title>
    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Send us Fan Mail It was a small park in rural San Jose with off-the-shelf rides and entertainment liberally lifted from Disneyland; so why is it so beloved? Is there another regional theme park in the country that has yearly reunions four DECADES after it closed? What was the magic behind Frontier Village? Playland at the Beach, The San Francisco Opera, Fantasia, Puppetoons and two very interesting apes - one animated and one day-glo - all factor into the story of one of California's most bel...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/2335588/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>It was a small park in rural San Jose with off-the-shelf rides and entertainment liberally lifted from Disneyland; so why is it so beloved? Is there another regional theme park in the country that has yearly reunions four DECADES after it closed? What was the magic behind Frontier Village?<br/>Playland at the Beach, The San Francisco Opera, Fantasia, Puppetoons and two very interesting apes - one animated and one day-glo - all factor into the story of one of California&apos;s most beloved attractions, Frontier Village. </p><p>Thanks for listening!<br/><br/>We&apos;d love it if you would give us a review on your podcast platform of choice: iTunes, Spotify, etc... They&apos;re really helpful.</p><p><br/>And get in touch and let us know about YOUR Plus-Ups for the attractions we&apos;ve talked about!  We&apos;d love to tell them on the air.<br/><br/>Come visit us on <a href='https://bsky.app/profile/lowdown-plus-up.bsky.social'>Bluesky</a>, Mastodon, <a href='https://www.instagram.com/lowdownplusup/'>Instagram</a>, or whatever social media you like. Just look up Lowdown on the Plus-Up and you&apos;ll probably find us.  Or drop us a note to comments@lowdown-plus-up.com and let us know any questions or comments about how YOU would like to plus-something-up!<br/> <br/>We are a Boardwalk Times production.<br/>Boardwalk Times, https://boardwalktimes.net/<br/>Boardwalk Times store, https://boardwalktimes.store .<br/><br/></p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/2335588/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>It was a small park in rural San Jose with off-the-shelf rides and entertainment liberally lifted from Disneyland; so why is it so beloved? Is there another regional theme park in the country that has yearly reunions four DECADES after it closed? What was the magic behind Frontier Village?<br/>Playland at the Beach, The San Francisco Opera, Fantasia, Puppetoons and two very interesting apes - one animated and one day-glo - all factor into the story of one of California&apos;s most beloved attractions, Frontier Village. </p><p>Thanks for listening!<br/><br/>We&apos;d love it if you would give us a review on your podcast platform of choice: iTunes, Spotify, etc... They&apos;re really helpful.</p><p><br/>And get in touch and let us know about YOUR Plus-Ups for the attractions we&apos;ve talked about!  We&apos;d love to tell them on the air.<br/><br/>Come visit us on <a href='https://bsky.app/profile/lowdown-plus-up.bsky.social'>Bluesky</a>, Mastodon, <a href='https://www.instagram.com/lowdownplusup/'>Instagram</a>, or whatever social media you like. Just look up Lowdown on the Plus-Up and you&apos;ll probably find us.  Or drop us a note to comments@lowdown-plus-up.com and let us know any questions or comments about how YOU would like to plus-something-up!<br/> <br/>We are a Boardwalk Times production.<br/>Boardwalk Times, https://boardwalktimes.net/<br/>Boardwalk Times store, https://boardwalktimes.store .<br/><br/></p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <itunes:author>Kelly and Pete</itunes:author>
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    <pubDate>Sun, 27 Oct 2024 14:00:00 -0700</pubDate>
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    <itunes:title>Retro-Nostalgia Ain’t What It Used to Be - The Main Street Electrical Parade</itunes:title>
    <title>Retro-Nostalgia Ain’t What It Used to Be - The Main Street Electrical Parade</title>
    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Send us Fan Mail It exists in a nexus between three time periods: the future, the retro-future and the nostalgic past. The Main Street Electrical Parade is the most famous Disney parks parade for a good reason, it somehow synthesizes everything that is contained in Walt's original park - fantasy, history, progress - in a joyous and timeless spectacle.  And Walt Disney was long gone before it was conceived making this perhaps the best answer ever to the question "What would Walt have done." He...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/2335588/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>It exists in a nexus between three time periods: the future, the retro-future and the nostalgic past. The Main Street Electrical Parade is the most famous Disney parks parade for a good reason, it somehow synthesizes everything that is contained in Walt&apos;s original park - fantasy, history, progress - in a joyous and timeless spectacle.<br/><br/>And Walt Disney was long gone before it was conceived making this perhaps the best answer ever to the question &quot;What would Walt have done.&quot;<br/>He&apos;d have done this.<br/><br/><br/>Also, see Pete live!  Pete will be appearing live in Hayward, California showing monster movies in his guise as the macabre Mr. Hives during the month of October. You can find tickets here: https://douglasmorrissontheatre.thundertix.com/ <br/>Hope to see some of you there.</p><p>Thanks for listening!<br/><br/>We&apos;d love it if you would give us a review on your podcast platform of choice: iTunes, Spotify, etc... They&apos;re really helpful.</p><p><br/>And get in touch and let us know about YOUR Plus-Ups for the attractions we&apos;ve talked about!  We&apos;d love to tell them on the air.<br/><br/>Come visit us on <a href='https://bsky.app/profile/lowdown-plus-up.bsky.social'>Bluesky</a>, Mastodon, <a href='https://www.instagram.com/lowdownplusup/'>Instagram</a>, or whatever social media you like. Just look up Lowdown on the Plus-Up and you&apos;ll probably find us.  Or drop us a note to comments@lowdown-plus-up.com and let us know any questions or comments about how YOU would like to plus-something-up!<br/> <br/>We are a Boardwalk Times production.<br/>Boardwalk Times, https://boardwalktimes.net/<br/>Boardwalk Times store, https://boardwalktimes.store .<br/><br/></p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/2335588/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>It exists in a nexus between three time periods: the future, the retro-future and the nostalgic past. The Main Street Electrical Parade is the most famous Disney parks parade for a good reason, it somehow synthesizes everything that is contained in Walt&apos;s original park - fantasy, history, progress - in a joyous and timeless spectacle.<br/><br/>And Walt Disney was long gone before it was conceived making this perhaps the best answer ever to the question &quot;What would Walt have done.&quot;<br/>He&apos;d have done this.<br/><br/><br/>Also, see Pete live!  Pete will be appearing live in Hayward, California showing monster movies in his guise as the macabre Mr. Hives during the month of October. You can find tickets here: https://douglasmorrissontheatre.thundertix.com/ <br/>Hope to see some of you there.</p><p>Thanks for listening!<br/><br/>We&apos;d love it if you would give us a review on your podcast platform of choice: iTunes, Spotify, etc... They&apos;re really helpful.</p><p><br/>And get in touch and let us know about YOUR Plus-Ups for the attractions we&apos;ve talked about!  We&apos;d love to tell them on the air.<br/><br/>Come visit us on <a href='https://bsky.app/profile/lowdown-plus-up.bsky.social'>Bluesky</a>, Mastodon, <a href='https://www.instagram.com/lowdownplusup/'>Instagram</a>, or whatever social media you like. Just look up Lowdown on the Plus-Up and you&apos;ll probably find us.  Or drop us a note to comments@lowdown-plus-up.com and let us know any questions or comments about how YOU would like to plus-something-up!<br/> <br/>We are a Boardwalk Times production.<br/>Boardwalk Times, https://boardwalktimes.net/<br/>Boardwalk Times store, https://boardwalktimes.store .<br/><br/></p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <itunes:author>Kelly and Pete</itunes:author>
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    <pubDate>Sun, 29 Sep 2024 14:00:00 -0700</pubDate>
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    <itunes:title>Folks Here&#39;s a Story &#39;Bout Minnie the Watcher - Fleischer Land</itunes:title>
    <title>Folks Here&#39;s a Story &#39;Bout Minnie the Watcher - Fleischer Land</title>
    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Send us Fan Mail If you take a left turn around 1929, you end up here: where the jazz band triumphed over the orchestra, where sexy usurped formal, where a very different theme park empire began, and died. Welcome to Fleischer Land.  Keep an eye out for hidden Bettys! Thanks for listening!  We'd love it if you would give us a review on your podcast platform of choice: iTunes, Spotify, etc... They're really helpful.  And get in touch and let us know about YOUR Plus-Ups for the attractions...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/2335588/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>If you take a left turn around 1929, you end up here: where the jazz band triumphed over the orchestra, where sexy usurped formal, where a very different theme park empire began, and died.<br/>Welcome to Fleischer Land.  Keep an eye out for hidden Bettys!</p><p>Thanks for listening!<br/><br/>We&apos;d love it if you would give us a review on your podcast platform of choice: iTunes, Spotify, etc... They&apos;re really helpful.</p><p><br/>And get in touch and let us know about YOUR Plus-Ups for the attractions we&apos;ve talked about!  We&apos;d love to tell them on the air.<br/><br/>Come visit us on <a href='https://bsky.app/profile/lowdown-plus-up.bsky.social'>Bluesky</a>, Mastodon, <a href='https://www.instagram.com/lowdownplusup/'>Instagram</a>, or whatever social media you like. Just look up Lowdown on the Plus-Up and you&apos;ll probably find us.  Or drop us a note to comments@lowdown-plus-up.com and let us know any questions or comments about how YOU would like to plus-something-up!<br/> <br/>We are a Boardwalk Times production.<br/>Boardwalk Times, https://boardwalktimes.net/<br/>Boardwalk Times store, https://boardwalktimes.store .<br/><br/></p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/2335588/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>If you take a left turn around 1929, you end up here: where the jazz band triumphed over the orchestra, where sexy usurped formal, where a very different theme park empire began, and died.<br/>Welcome to Fleischer Land.  Keep an eye out for hidden Bettys!</p><p>Thanks for listening!<br/><br/>We&apos;d love it if you would give us a review on your podcast platform of choice: iTunes, Spotify, etc... They&apos;re really helpful.</p><p><br/>And get in touch and let us know about YOUR Plus-Ups for the attractions we&apos;ve talked about!  We&apos;d love to tell them on the air.<br/><br/>Come visit us on <a href='https://bsky.app/profile/lowdown-plus-up.bsky.social'>Bluesky</a>, Mastodon, <a href='https://www.instagram.com/lowdownplusup/'>Instagram</a>, or whatever social media you like. Just look up Lowdown on the Plus-Up and you&apos;ll probably find us.  Or drop us a note to comments@lowdown-plus-up.com and let us know any questions or comments about how YOU would like to plus-something-up!<br/> <br/>We are a Boardwalk Times production.<br/>Boardwalk Times, https://boardwalktimes.net/<br/>Boardwalk Times store, https://boardwalktimes.store .<br/><br/></p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <pubDate>Wed, 04 Sep 2024 15:00:00 -0700</pubDate>
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    <itunes:title>They Died with their Boots On - The History and Future of the Disney Shooting Galleries</itunes:title>
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    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Send us Fan Mail When we pick up a fake gun and shoot it at a fantastical electric target, what are we trying to become? What do we think Frontierland is? Who is Paul MacGlashan and how did the guy that designed Disney's shooting galleries help win WWII?  And, most importantly, How did Kelly and Pete find themselves so mired in the kind of Disney current affair news that they usually avoid like the plague?  It's the history of SHOOTIN' STUFF at Disney Theme parks!  (Also, a link to that ...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/2335588/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>When we pick up a fake gun and shoot it at a fantastical electric target, what are we trying to become? What do we think Frontierland is? Who is Paul MacGlashan and how did the guy that designed Disney&apos;s shooting galleries help win WWII? <br/>And, most importantly, How did Kelly and Pete find themselves so mired in the kind of Disney current affair news that they usually avoid like the plague?<br/><br/>It&apos;s the history of SHOOTIN&apos; STUFF at Disney Theme parks!<br/><br/>(Also, a link to that Frontierland article we keep talking about, https://boardwalktimes.net/we-need-to-talk-about-frontierland-ad54b31a1fe1 .)<br/><br/></p><p>Thanks for listening!<br/><br/>We&apos;d love it if you would give us a review on your podcast platform of choice: iTunes, Spotify, etc... They&apos;re really helpful.</p><p><br/>And get in touch and let us know about YOUR Plus-Ups for the attractions we&apos;ve talked about!  We&apos;d love to tell them on the air.<br/><br/>Come visit us on <a href='https://bsky.app/profile/lowdown-plus-up.bsky.social'>Bluesky</a>, Mastodon, <a href='https://www.instagram.com/lowdownplusup/'>Instagram</a>, or whatever social media you like. Just look up Lowdown on the Plus-Up and you&apos;ll probably find us.  Or drop us a note to comments@lowdown-plus-up.com and let us know any questions or comments about how YOU would like to plus-something-up!<br/> <br/>We are a Boardwalk Times production.<br/>Boardwalk Times, https://boardwalktimes.net/<br/>Boardwalk Times store, https://boardwalktimes.store .<br/><br/></p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/2335588/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>When we pick up a fake gun and shoot it at a fantastical electric target, what are we trying to become? What do we think Frontierland is? Who is Paul MacGlashan and how did the guy that designed Disney&apos;s shooting galleries help win WWII? <br/>And, most importantly, How did Kelly and Pete find themselves so mired in the kind of Disney current affair news that they usually avoid like the plague?<br/><br/>It&apos;s the history of SHOOTIN&apos; STUFF at Disney Theme parks!<br/><br/>(Also, a link to that Frontierland article we keep talking about, https://boardwalktimes.net/we-need-to-talk-about-frontierland-ad54b31a1fe1 .)<br/><br/></p><p>Thanks for listening!<br/><br/>We&apos;d love it if you would give us a review on your podcast platform of choice: iTunes, Spotify, etc... They&apos;re really helpful.</p><p><br/>And get in touch and let us know about YOUR Plus-Ups for the attractions we&apos;ve talked about!  We&apos;d love to tell them on the air.<br/><br/>Come visit us on <a href='https://bsky.app/profile/lowdown-plus-up.bsky.social'>Bluesky</a>, Mastodon, <a href='https://www.instagram.com/lowdownplusup/'>Instagram</a>, or whatever social media you like. Just look up Lowdown on the Plus-Up and you&apos;ll probably find us.  Or drop us a note to comments@lowdown-plus-up.com and let us know any questions or comments about how YOU would like to plus-something-up!<br/> <br/>We are a Boardwalk Times production.<br/>Boardwalk Times, https://boardwalktimes.net/<br/>Boardwalk Times store, https://boardwalktimes.store .<br/><br/></p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <pubDate>Mon, 19 Aug 2024 08:00:00 -0700</pubDate>
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    <itunes:title>The Ballad of Bumping Biff - Back to the Future: The Ride</itunes:title>
    <title>The Ballad of Bumping Biff - Back to the Future: The Ride</title>
    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Send us Fan Mail Fire up your Flux Capacitors, people, because we're heading back, back, back in time! We're traveling to the early-20th Century to visit some houses that ought not spin the way they do, the '60s to visit that same Not-Really-A-World's-Fair that we keep yammering on about and, of course, the '80s - where Huey Lewis lives.  It's the ride that saved Universal Theme Parks, Back to the Future! Thanks for listening!  We'd love it if you would give us a review on your podcast platfo...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/2335588/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>Fire up your Flux Capacitors, people, because we&apos;re heading back, back, back in time!<br/>We&apos;re traveling to the early-20th Century to visit some houses that ought not spin the way they do, the &apos;60s to visit that same Not-Really-A-World&apos;s-Fair that we keep yammering on about and, of course, the &apos;80s - where Huey Lewis lives.<br/><br/>It&apos;s the ride that saved Universal Theme Parks, Back to the Future!</p><p>Thanks for listening!<br/><br/>We&apos;d love it if you would give us a review on your podcast platform of choice: iTunes, Spotify, etc... They&apos;re really helpful.</p><p><br/>And get in touch and let us know about YOUR Plus-Ups for the attractions we&apos;ve talked about!  We&apos;d love to tell them on the air.<br/><br/>Come visit us on <a href='https://bsky.app/profile/lowdown-plus-up.bsky.social'>Bluesky</a>, Mastodon, <a href='https://www.instagram.com/lowdownplusup/'>Instagram</a>, or whatever social media you like. Just look up Lowdown on the Plus-Up and you&apos;ll probably find us.  Or drop us a note to comments@lowdown-plus-up.com and let us know any questions or comments about how YOU would like to plus-something-up!<br/> <br/>We are a Boardwalk Times production.<br/>Boardwalk Times, https://boardwalktimes.net/<br/>Boardwalk Times store, https://boardwalktimes.store .<br/><br/></p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/2335588/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>Fire up your Flux Capacitors, people, because we&apos;re heading back, back, back in time!<br/>We&apos;re traveling to the early-20th Century to visit some houses that ought not spin the way they do, the &apos;60s to visit that same Not-Really-A-World&apos;s-Fair that we keep yammering on about and, of course, the &apos;80s - where Huey Lewis lives.<br/><br/>It&apos;s the ride that saved Universal Theme Parks, Back to the Future!</p><p>Thanks for listening!<br/><br/>We&apos;d love it if you would give us a review on your podcast platform of choice: iTunes, Spotify, etc... They&apos;re really helpful.</p><p><br/>And get in touch and let us know about YOUR Plus-Ups for the attractions we&apos;ve talked about!  We&apos;d love to tell them on the air.<br/><br/>Come visit us on <a href='https://bsky.app/profile/lowdown-plus-up.bsky.social'>Bluesky</a>, Mastodon, <a href='https://www.instagram.com/lowdownplusup/'>Instagram</a>, or whatever social media you like. Just look up Lowdown on the Plus-Up and you&apos;ll probably find us.  Or drop us a note to comments@lowdown-plus-up.com and let us know any questions or comments about how YOU would like to plus-something-up!<br/> <br/>We are a Boardwalk Times production.<br/>Boardwalk Times, https://boardwalktimes.net/<br/>Boardwalk Times store, https://boardwalktimes.store .<br/><br/></p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <itunes:title>The Starcruiser Evermore -  The Pleasures and Pitfalls of Theme Park Interactivity</itunes:title>
    <title>The Starcruiser Evermore -  The Pleasures and Pitfalls of Theme Park Interactivity</title>
    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Send us Fan Mail We go out on a limb this episode by philosophizing about the uses and abuses of guest interactivity within theme parks and other forms of live entertainment. We get real philosophical and voices get kind of contemplatively husky (or Kelly is still getting over a cold). Along the way we visit Knotts Berry Farm, the Galactic Starcruiser, Evermore, live murder mysteries and Renaissance Faires. We hope you like it.  Please consider rating our show and subscribing to it on your po...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/2335588/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>We go out on a limb this episode by philosophizing about the uses and abuses of guest interactivity within theme parks and other forms of live entertainment. We get real philosophical and voices get kind of contemplatively husky (or Kelly is still getting over a cold).<br/>Along the way we visit Knotts Berry Farm, the Galactic Starcruiser, Evermore, live murder mysteries and Renaissance Faires.<br/>We hope you like it.<br/><br/>Please consider rating our show and subscribing to it on your podcast platform of choice.<br/><br/></p><p>Thanks for listening!<br/><br/>We&apos;d love it if you would give us a review on your podcast platform of choice: iTunes, Spotify, etc... They&apos;re really helpful.</p><p><br/>And get in touch and let us know about YOUR Plus-Ups for the attractions we&apos;ve talked about!  We&apos;d love to tell them on the air.<br/><br/>Come visit us on <a href='https://bsky.app/profile/lowdown-plus-up.bsky.social'>Bluesky</a>, Mastodon, <a href='https://www.instagram.com/lowdownplusup/'>Instagram</a>, or whatever social media you like. Just look up Lowdown on the Plus-Up and you&apos;ll probably find us.  Or drop us a note to comments@lowdown-plus-up.com and let us know any questions or comments about how YOU would like to plus-something-up!<br/> <br/>We are a Boardwalk Times production.<br/>Boardwalk Times, https://boardwalktimes.net/<br/>Boardwalk Times store, https://boardwalktimes.store .<br/><br/></p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/2335588/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>We go out on a limb this episode by philosophizing about the uses and abuses of guest interactivity within theme parks and other forms of live entertainment. We get real philosophical and voices get kind of contemplatively husky (or Kelly is still getting over a cold).<br/>Along the way we visit Knotts Berry Farm, the Galactic Starcruiser, Evermore, live murder mysteries and Renaissance Faires.<br/>We hope you like it.<br/><br/>Please consider rating our show and subscribing to it on your podcast platform of choice.<br/><br/></p><p>Thanks for listening!<br/><br/>We&apos;d love it if you would give us a review on your podcast platform of choice: iTunes, Spotify, etc... They&apos;re really helpful.</p><p><br/>And get in touch and let us know about YOUR Plus-Ups for the attractions we&apos;ve talked about!  We&apos;d love to tell them on the air.<br/><br/>Come visit us on <a href='https://bsky.app/profile/lowdown-plus-up.bsky.social'>Bluesky</a>, Mastodon, <a href='https://www.instagram.com/lowdownplusup/'>Instagram</a>, or whatever social media you like. Just look up Lowdown on the Plus-Up and you&apos;ll probably find us.  Or drop us a note to comments@lowdown-plus-up.com and let us know any questions or comments about how YOU would like to plus-something-up!<br/> <br/>We are a Boardwalk Times production.<br/>Boardwalk Times, https://boardwalktimes.net/<br/>Boardwalk Times store, https://boardwalktimes.store .<br/><br/></p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <itunes:title>The Racing Monkeys of Leisure - Bob Gurr&#39;s Autopia</itunes:title>
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    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Send us Fan Mail A puzzling anomaly today - we dive for hours on packed highways to a place where we pay money to simulate driving on packed highways - the Richfield Autopia attraction was once a vision of an America poised on the brink of progress and possibility. Kelly and Pete go on a pilgrimage to Disneyland to consider its history in person and meet legendary Imagineer Bob Gurr along the way! It's a show packed with ride-vehicles, ghost towns and the evolution of labor relations in Ameri...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/2335588/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>A puzzling anomaly today - we dive for hours on packed highways to a place where we pay money to simulate driving on packed highways - the Richfield Autopia attraction was once a vision of an America poised on the brink of progress and possibility.<br/>Kelly and Pete go on a pilgrimage to Disneyland to consider its history in person and meet legendary Imagineer Bob Gurr along the way!<br/>It&apos;s a show packed with ride-vehicles, ghost towns and the evolution of labor relations in America. The highway we&apos;re traveling on will definitely be the scenic route.<br/><br/>Please consider rating our show and subscribing to it on your podcast platform of choice.<br/><br/>Come visit our Facebook group at https://www.facebook.com/groups/1511094196139406 or drop us a note to comments@lowdown-plus-up.com and let us know any questions or comments about how YOU would like to plus-something-up!<br/><br/>We are a Boardwalk Times production.<br/>Boardwalk Times, https://boardwalktimes.net/<br/>Boardwalk Times store, https://boardwalktimes.store .<br/><br/>Thanks for listening!<br/>Come visit our Facebook group at https://www.facebook.com/groups/1511094196139406 or drop us a note to comments@lowdown-plus-up.com and let us know any questions or comments about how YOU would like to plus-something-up!<br/><br/>We are a Boardwalk Times production.<br/>Boardwalk Times, https://boardwalktimes.net/<br/>Boardwalk Times store, https://boardwalktimes.store</p><p>Thanks for listening!<br/><br/>We&apos;d love it if you would give us a review on your podcast platform of choice: iTunes, Spotify, etc... They&apos;re really helpful.</p><p><br/>And get in touch and let us know about YOUR Plus-Ups for the attractions we&apos;ve talked about!  We&apos;d love to tell them on the air.<br/><br/>Come visit us on <a href='https://bsky.app/profile/lowdown-plus-up.bsky.social'>Bluesky</a>, Mastodon, <a href='https://www.instagram.com/lowdownplusup/'>Instagram</a>, or whatever social media you like. Just look up Lowdown on the Plus-Up and you&apos;ll probably find us.  Or drop us a note to comments@lowdown-plus-up.com and let us know any questions or comments about how YOU would like to plus-something-up!<br/> <br/>We are a Boardwalk Times production.<br/>Boardwalk Times, https://boardwalktimes.net/<br/>Boardwalk Times store, https://boardwalktimes.store .<br/><br/></p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/2335588/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>A puzzling anomaly today - we dive for hours on packed highways to a place where we pay money to simulate driving on packed highways - the Richfield Autopia attraction was once a vision of an America poised on the brink of progress and possibility.<br/>Kelly and Pete go on a pilgrimage to Disneyland to consider its history in person and meet legendary Imagineer Bob Gurr along the way!<br/>It&apos;s a show packed with ride-vehicles, ghost towns and the evolution of labor relations in America. The highway we&apos;re traveling on will definitely be the scenic route.<br/><br/>Please consider rating our show and subscribing to it on your podcast platform of choice.<br/><br/>Come visit our Facebook group at https://www.facebook.com/groups/1511094196139406 or drop us a note to comments@lowdown-plus-up.com and let us know any questions or comments about how YOU would like to plus-something-up!<br/><br/>We are a Boardwalk Times production.<br/>Boardwalk Times, https://boardwalktimes.net/<br/>Boardwalk Times store, https://boardwalktimes.store .<br/><br/>Thanks for listening!<br/>Come visit our Facebook group at https://www.facebook.com/groups/1511094196139406 or drop us a note to comments@lowdown-plus-up.com and let us know any questions or comments about how YOU would like to plus-something-up!<br/><br/>We are a Boardwalk Times production.<br/>Boardwalk Times, https://boardwalktimes.net/<br/>Boardwalk Times store, https://boardwalktimes.store</p><p>Thanks for listening!<br/><br/>We&apos;d love it if you would give us a review on your podcast platform of choice: iTunes, Spotify, etc... They&apos;re really helpful.</p><p><br/>And get in touch and let us know about YOUR Plus-Ups for the attractions we&apos;ve talked about!  We&apos;d love to tell them on the air.<br/><br/>Come visit us on <a href='https://bsky.app/profile/lowdown-plus-up.bsky.social'>Bluesky</a>, Mastodon, <a href='https://www.instagram.com/lowdownplusup/'>Instagram</a>, or whatever social media you like. Just look up Lowdown on the Plus-Up and you&apos;ll probably find us.  Or drop us a note to comments@lowdown-plus-up.com and let us know any questions or comments about how YOU would like to plus-something-up!<br/> <br/>We are a Boardwalk Times production.<br/>Boardwalk Times, https://boardwalktimes.net/<br/>Boardwalk Times store, https://boardwalktimes.store .<br/><br/></p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <itunes:title>Rude Mechanicals - Jungle Cruise: The Early Years</itunes:title>
    <title>Rude Mechanicals - Jungle Cruise: The Early Years</title>
    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Send us Fan Mail It's been in the parks so long that it seems simply part of Disneyland's fabric, which it is. The Jungle Cruise is almost synonymous with the idea of "theme park." But it struggled with its identity for a very long time before becoming that attraction that we all know and love today. And some of the most fundamental players in its development have been obscured by time and corporate revisionist history. Join us as we travel the Rivers of Adventure at Disneyland Park, prior to...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/2335588/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>It&apos;s been in the parks so long that it seems simply part of Disneyland&apos;s fabric, which it is.<br/>The Jungle Cruise is almost synonymous with the idea of &quot;theme park.&quot; But it struggled with its identity for a very long time before becoming that attraction that we all know and love today.<br/>And some of the most fundamental players in its development have been obscured by time and corporate revisionist history.<br/>Join us as we travel the Rivers of Adventure at Disneyland Park, prior to the arrival of a certain fedora&apos;d adventurer. <br/><br/>Please consider rating our show and subscribing to it on your podcast platform of choice.<br/><br/>Come visit our Facebook group at https://www.facebook.com/groups/1511094196139406 or drop us a note to comments@lowdown-plus-up.com and let us know any questions or comments about how YOU would like to plus-something-up!<br/><br/>We are a Boardwalk Times production.<br/>Boardwalk Times, https://boardwalktimes.net/<br/>Boardwalk Times store, https://boardwalktimes.store .</p><p>Thanks for listening!<br/><br/>We&apos;d love it if you would give us a review on your podcast platform of choice: iTunes, Spotify, etc... They&apos;re really helpful.</p><p><br/>And get in touch and let us know about YOUR Plus-Ups for the attractions we&apos;ve talked about!  We&apos;d love to tell them on the air.<br/><br/>Come visit us on <a href='https://bsky.app/profile/lowdown-plus-up.bsky.social'>Bluesky</a>, Mastodon, <a href='https://www.instagram.com/lowdownplusup/'>Instagram</a>, or whatever social media you like. Just look up Lowdown on the Plus-Up and you&apos;ll probably find us.  Or drop us a note to comments@lowdown-plus-up.com and let us know any questions or comments about how YOU would like to plus-something-up!<br/> <br/>We are a Boardwalk Times production.<br/>Boardwalk Times, https://boardwalktimes.net/<br/>Boardwalk Times store, https://boardwalktimes.store .<br/><br/></p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/2335588/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>It&apos;s been in the parks so long that it seems simply part of Disneyland&apos;s fabric, which it is.<br/>The Jungle Cruise is almost synonymous with the idea of &quot;theme park.&quot; But it struggled with its identity for a very long time before becoming that attraction that we all know and love today.<br/>And some of the most fundamental players in its development have been obscured by time and corporate revisionist history.<br/>Join us as we travel the Rivers of Adventure at Disneyland Park, prior to the arrival of a certain fedora&apos;d adventurer. <br/><br/>Please consider rating our show and subscribing to it on your podcast platform of choice.<br/><br/>Come visit our Facebook group at https://www.facebook.com/groups/1511094196139406 or drop us a note to comments@lowdown-plus-up.com and let us know any questions or comments about how YOU would like to plus-something-up!<br/><br/>We are a Boardwalk Times production.<br/>Boardwalk Times, https://boardwalktimes.net/<br/>Boardwalk Times store, https://boardwalktimes.store .</p><p>Thanks for listening!<br/><br/>We&apos;d love it if you would give us a review on your podcast platform of choice: iTunes, Spotify, etc... They&apos;re really helpful.</p><p><br/>And get in touch and let us know about YOUR Plus-Ups for the attractions we&apos;ve talked about!  We&apos;d love to tell them on the air.<br/><br/>Come visit us on <a href='https://bsky.app/profile/lowdown-plus-up.bsky.social'>Bluesky</a>, Mastodon, <a href='https://www.instagram.com/lowdownplusup/'>Instagram</a>, or whatever social media you like. Just look up Lowdown on the Plus-Up and you&apos;ll probably find us.  Or drop us a note to comments@lowdown-plus-up.com and let us know any questions or comments about how YOU would like to plus-something-up!<br/> <br/>We are a Boardwalk Times production.<br/>Boardwalk Times, https://boardwalktimes.net/<br/>Boardwalk Times store, https://boardwalktimes.store .<br/><br/></p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <itunes:title>Calamity Boag - The Golden Horseshoe Saloon</itunes:title>
    <title>Calamity Boag - The Golden Horseshoe Saloon</title>
    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Send us Fan Mail After Sleeping Beauty Castle, there may be no more important icon of the first few decades of Disneyland than The Golden Horseshoe Saloon. Wally Boag, Betty Taylor and Fulton Burley held court, every day, in Frontierland's grandest meetin' place, for thirty years. But what exactly was it? Join us.  Come visit our Facebook group at https://www.facebook.com/groups/1511094196139406 or drop us a note to comments@lowdown-plus-up.com and let us know any questions or comments about ...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/2335588/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>After Sleeping Beauty Castle, there may be no more important icon of the first few decades of Disneyland than The Golden Horseshoe Saloon.<br/>Wally Boag, Betty Taylor and Fulton Burley held court, every day, in Frontierland&apos;s grandest meetin&apos; place, for thirty years.<br/>But what exactly was it?<br/>Join us.<br/><br/>Come visit our Facebook group at https://www.facebook.com/groups/1511094196139406 or drop us a note to comments@lowdown-plus-up.com and let us know any questions or comments about how YOU would like to plus-something-up!<br/><br/>We are a Boardwalk Times production.<br/>Boardwalk Times, https://boardwalktimes.net/<br/>Boardwalk Times store, https://boardwalktimes.store .</p><p>Thanks for listening!<br/><br/>We&apos;d love it if you would give us a review on your podcast platform of choice: iTunes, Spotify, etc... They&apos;re really helpful.</p><p><br/>And get in touch and let us know about YOUR Plus-Ups for the attractions we&apos;ve talked about!  We&apos;d love to tell them on the air.<br/><br/>Come visit us on <a href='https://bsky.app/profile/lowdown-plus-up.bsky.social'>Bluesky</a>, Mastodon, <a href='https://www.instagram.com/lowdownplusup/'>Instagram</a>, or whatever social media you like. Just look up Lowdown on the Plus-Up and you&apos;ll probably find us.  Or drop us a note to comments@lowdown-plus-up.com and let us know any questions or comments about how YOU would like to plus-something-up!<br/> <br/>We are a Boardwalk Times production.<br/>Boardwalk Times, https://boardwalktimes.net/<br/>Boardwalk Times store, https://boardwalktimes.store .<br/><br/></p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/2335588/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>After Sleeping Beauty Castle, there may be no more important icon of the first few decades of Disneyland than The Golden Horseshoe Saloon.<br/>Wally Boag, Betty Taylor and Fulton Burley held court, every day, in Frontierland&apos;s grandest meetin&apos; place, for thirty years.<br/>But what exactly was it?<br/>Join us.<br/><br/>Come visit our Facebook group at https://www.facebook.com/groups/1511094196139406 or drop us a note to comments@lowdown-plus-up.com and let us know any questions or comments about how YOU would like to plus-something-up!<br/><br/>We are a Boardwalk Times production.<br/>Boardwalk Times, https://boardwalktimes.net/<br/>Boardwalk Times store, https://boardwalktimes.store .</p><p>Thanks for listening!<br/><br/>We&apos;d love it if you would give us a review on your podcast platform of choice: iTunes, Spotify, etc... They&apos;re really helpful.</p><p><br/>And get in touch and let us know about YOUR Plus-Ups for the attractions we&apos;ve talked about!  We&apos;d love to tell them on the air.<br/><br/>Come visit us on <a href='https://bsky.app/profile/lowdown-plus-up.bsky.social'>Bluesky</a>, Mastodon, <a href='https://www.instagram.com/lowdownplusup/'>Instagram</a>, or whatever social media you like. Just look up Lowdown on the Plus-Up and you&apos;ll probably find us.  Or drop us a note to comments@lowdown-plus-up.com and let us know any questions or comments about how YOU would like to plus-something-up!<br/> <br/>We are a Boardwalk Times production.<br/>Boardwalk Times, https://boardwalktimes.net/<br/>Boardwalk Times store, https://boardwalktimes.store .<br/><br/></p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <pubDate>Mon, 13 May 2024 02:00:00 -0700</pubDate>
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    <itunes:title>Towers of Tomorrow - The Disneyland Hotel</itunes:title>
    <title>Towers of Tomorrow - The Disneyland Hotel</title>
    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Send us Fan Mail Once the most modern of resorts, the story of The Disneyland Hotel goes from the Governor's mansion in 1930s Texas to an engineering miracle in 1815 Cairo... At least that's how we tell it. Trust us, this is a strange ride. Thanks for listening!  We'd love it if you would give us a review on your podcast platform of choice: iTunes, Spotify, etc... They're really helpful.  And get in touch and let us know about YOUR Plus-Ups for the attractions we've talked about!  We'd l...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/2335588/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>Once the most modern of resorts, the story of The Disneyland Hotel goes from the Governor&apos;s mansion in 1930s Texas to an engineering miracle in 1815 Cairo... At least that&apos;s how we tell it.<br/>Trust us, this is a strange ride.</p><p>Thanks for listening!<br/><br/>We&apos;d love it if you would give us a review on your podcast platform of choice: iTunes, Spotify, etc... They&apos;re really helpful.</p><p><br/>And get in touch and let us know about YOUR Plus-Ups for the attractions we&apos;ve talked about!  We&apos;d love to tell them on the air.<br/><br/>Come visit us on <a href='https://bsky.app/profile/lowdown-plus-up.bsky.social'>Bluesky</a>, Mastodon, <a href='https://www.instagram.com/lowdownplusup/'>Instagram</a>, or whatever social media you like. Just look up Lowdown on the Plus-Up and you&apos;ll probably find us.  Or drop us a note to comments@lowdown-plus-up.com and let us know any questions or comments about how YOU would like to plus-something-up!<br/> <br/>We are a Boardwalk Times production.<br/>Boardwalk Times, https://boardwalktimes.net/<br/>Boardwalk Times store, https://boardwalktimes.store .<br/><br/></p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/2335588/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>Once the most modern of resorts, the story of The Disneyland Hotel goes from the Governor&apos;s mansion in 1930s Texas to an engineering miracle in 1815 Cairo... At least that&apos;s how we tell it.<br/>Trust us, this is a strange ride.</p><p>Thanks for listening!<br/><br/>We&apos;d love it if you would give us a review on your podcast platform of choice: iTunes, Spotify, etc... They&apos;re really helpful.</p><p><br/>And get in touch and let us know about YOUR Plus-Ups for the attractions we&apos;ve talked about!  We&apos;d love to tell them on the air.<br/><br/>Come visit us on <a href='https://bsky.app/profile/lowdown-plus-up.bsky.social'>Bluesky</a>, Mastodon, <a href='https://www.instagram.com/lowdownplusup/'>Instagram</a>, or whatever social media you like. Just look up Lowdown on the Plus-Up and you&apos;ll probably find us.  Or drop us a note to comments@lowdown-plus-up.com and let us know any questions or comments about how YOU would like to plus-something-up!<br/> <br/>We are a Boardwalk Times production.<br/>Boardwalk Times, https://boardwalktimes.net/<br/>Boardwalk Times store, https://boardwalktimes.store .<br/><br/></p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <pubDate>Mon, 29 Apr 2024 01:00:00 -0700</pubDate>
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    <itunes:title>We&#39;re All Goons Here - Sleeping Beauty Castle</itunes:title>
    <title>We&#39;re All Goons Here - Sleeping Beauty Castle</title>
    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Send us Fan Mail The icon of all theme park icons, Sleeping Beauty Castle. While it's the smallest of the Disney parks' castles, it has the richest, and strangest, history.  Watch out, in this episode you will learn how something you probably thought was true about the Haunted Mansion is not, but is, instead, true for the Castle.  Come on into this dark, cramped, stairway; there's some stories you'll want to hear. Thanks for listening!  We'd love it if you would give us a review on your podca...]]></itunes:summary>
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    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/2335588/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>The icon of all theme park icons, Sleeping Beauty Castle. While it&apos;s the smallest of the Disney parks&apos; castles, it has the richest, and strangest, history.<br/><br/>Watch out, in this episode you will learn how something you probably thought was true about the Haunted Mansion is not, but is, instead, true for the Castle.<br/><br/>Come on into this dark, cramped, stairway; there&apos;s some stories you&apos;ll want to hear.</p><p>Thanks for listening!<br/><br/>We&apos;d love it if you would give us a review on your podcast platform of choice: iTunes, Spotify, etc... They&apos;re really helpful.</p><p><br/>And get in touch and let us know about YOUR Plus-Ups for the attractions we&apos;ve talked about!  We&apos;d love to tell them on the air.<br/><br/>Come visit us on <a href='https://bsky.app/profile/lowdown-plus-up.bsky.social'>Bluesky</a>, Mastodon, <a href='https://www.instagram.com/lowdownplusup/'>Instagram</a>, or whatever social media you like. Just look up Lowdown on the Plus-Up and you&apos;ll probably find us.  Or drop us a note to comments@lowdown-plus-up.com and let us know any questions or comments about how YOU would like to plus-something-up!<br/> <br/>We are a Boardwalk Times production.<br/>Boardwalk Times, https://boardwalktimes.net/<br/>Boardwalk Times store, https://boardwalktimes.store .<br/><br/></p>]]></content:encoded>
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