We retook spiritual gifts quizzes this week and let’s just say… some of the results were expected and some really caught us by surprise.

This episode turned into a very honest conversation about how God wires people differently, how our gifts can shift through different seasons of life and whether gifts get stronger, buried or even quieter when we stop using them.

We talk leadership, discernment, burnout, emotional capacity and why apparently neither of us received the gift of patience.

Also, some of you have the gift of hospitality and we’d just like to say thank you for your service because we both are going to need 24 hours before you drop by our homes!

This is the quiz we took! Take it and tell us what your results are! https://giftstest.com/test

This week we invited life coach Lori Stansbury from Revealing Potential Coaching to join us for a conversation that honestly felt like a deep exhale for women in our stage of life.

Why do men seem to get a socially accepted “midlife crisis,” while women are expected to quietly keep everyone else’s lives running? What happens when you start feeling restless, pulled toward something new, or ready to rediscover parts of yourself that got buried under responsibility, survival mode and taking care of everyone else?

We talked about the women who know exactly what dream they want to chase and the women who just know they cannot stay where they are forever. Lori shares wisdom on unlocking new potential, recognizing what may be stirring beneath the surface and giving yourself permission to move with purpose.

Also, somehow we managed to keep the tangents mostly under control and only had one inappropriate comment, which honestly proves how much we loved this conversation and how badly we already want Lori back.

We have a feeling you are going to love her as much as we do.

You can connect with Lori Stansbury of Revealing Potential Coaching at:
Revealing Potential Coaching www.loristansbury.com
Find her socials, events and book discovery appointments here:

linktr.ee/loristansbury

This one’s for the girls.
Circle of trust only. What’s said here stays here.

This episode feels like jumping into a late night bestie chat mid conversation.

Kacie wanted to talk about S E X.
Steph boycotted… and somehow made a joke that derailed us even worse.

From there, it’s weight loss updates, distractions, disappointments, and absolutely no ability to stay on track.

We love you. We’re so glad Jesus loves us… because this is definitely an earbuds in or alone in your car kind of episode.

It’s unfiltered, a little off the rails, and very much a “you had to be there” kind of episode.

We went back to a church we’ve visited before and this time? No notes. No complaints. Just… really, really good. 

Because life has these transitions, some you expect, some you don’t, and even when you know they’re coming… you still don’t feel ready.

Steph is stepping into one of those moments right now. An engagement on the horizon, families about to meet for the first time, and all the emotions that come with realizing your kid is building a life of their own.

We talk nerves, anticipation, and yes, a few wedding nightmare stories… because obviously.

But underneath all of it is this truth we keep coming back to:

Life doesn’t wait for us to feel ready.

We kicked things off with our latest church shopping adventure… and let’s just say, it wasn’t exactly welcoming.

Because if we can’t get it right in the one place that’s supposed to reflect Jesus the most, what does that say about how we’re showing up the rest of the week?

What if this isn’t a distraction from our purpose… what if this is the assignment?

In this episode, we break down what Kingdom work actually looks like in real life. Not big, polished, or platform-based. But in our homes, our conversations, our reactions, and the everyday moments we usually overlook.

Because what we do here matters. More than we think.

After a break, Easter, and a stretch of more structured episodes, this one is a full catch up. Spring break recaps, life lately, the highs, the mess, and the moments that caught us off guard. We talk about what it meant for Kacie to have her family join her at church for the first time in months, the emotions going in, and what stuck after.

But more than anything, this episode is about community. The messages you have sent, the ways you have related, and how this has become something bigger than just two people talking.

We want to keep building that with you and talk about how you can be a part of our Kinda Preachy community.

Turns out going back can be part of moving forward.

We share about a recent church visit, including returning to a place Steph used to work and all the nostalgia and reflection that came with it. What we loved, what felt different, and what it showed us about how we have grown.

Then we talk about Easter and what the resurrection actually changes, and why we do not always live like it does.

Because maybe moving forward starts with seeing clearly where we have been
and choosing to live a little lighter because of what is already true

You didn’t go through all of this to go back.

After everything—church hurt, growth, hard conversations, and choosing not to stay stuck—this episode is about one thing:

We are not the same anymore and if you relate than, You’re not the same anymore, either!

And that’s not something to fix.
It’s something to step into.

We’re talking about what shifts when you grow, what you stop tolerating, what you start valuing, and how refinement changes the way you show up in your faith, your relationships, and your community.

Because “fine” was never God’s best for you.

And going back isn’t the goal.

Moving forward is.

After talking about church hurt and the temptation to just skate by spiritually, the next question is obvious:

If community matters… how do we actually find it again?

Rebuilding community after disappointment can feel intimidating. It’s easier to stay guarded, keep things surface-level, or convince ourselves we don’t really need it.

But following Jesus was never meant to be a solo journey.

In this episode we talk about what healthy Christian community actually looks like, why midlife makes meaningful friendships harder (and more necessary), and how to take small, brave steps toward belonging again.

Because you don’t just stumble into real community.

You awkwardly out yourself out there and build it.

“I have a lot of complicated feelings about the church, but I don’t have any about Jesus.”

In a season where many people are processing disappointment, hurt, and complicated emotions about faith communities, we’re asking an honest question: what does it look like to keep moving toward Jesus anyway?

Church hurt can feel like stepping into sticky mud. Community feels risky. And sometimes the easiest thing to do is just skate by spiritually instead of stepping forward again.

But what does skating by actually look like?

Maybe you still believe in Jesus, but you rarely invite Him into your decisions. Maybe faith feels more like maintenance than transformation. Maybe you’ve settled into being “fine” spiritually, comfortable but not growing.

In this episode we talk about how easy it is to drift into spiritual autopilot, especially when life is busy, responsibilities are high, and church feels complicated. We unpack the difference between protecting your heart and isolating it, and why skating by might feel safe but was never God’s best plan for us.

Because God’s invitation has always been deeper than maintenance. It’s transformation.

We are in Leviticus.
We are in Lent.
And we are in midlife.

This season can feel unhinged. Hormones shifting. Roles evolving. Energy changing. And somewhere in the middle of it all, it’s easy to slip into skating by. Just surviving. Managing symptoms. Protecting comfort. Keeping everything afloat.

But we were not made to just survive this season.

What if midlife isn’t a holding pattern?
What if it’s a redefining?

We’re leaning into the truth that this second act is not about shrinking our expectations or settling into comfort mode. It’s about stepping out of autopilot and into alignment with who God is calling us to become.

Leviticus teaches us about being set apart.
Lent invites intentional surrender.
And this hormonal, refining season might be the very fire God is using to grow us and not reduce us.

This isn’t about powering through hot flashes or laughing our way through the chaos (though we’ll still laugh).

It’s about moving from comfort to conviction.
From surviving to thriving.
From skating by to stepping up.

We are not reduced.
We are being refined.

There comes a moment when you realize you’re not just your parents’ kid anymore — you’re starting to see the shift. The questions feel different. The responsibilities feel closer. And you quietly wonder, “When did this happen?”

In this episode, Steph talks about sensing this season approaching — noticing small changes and feeling the weight of what’s ahead. Kacie shares from the other side, having already walked through the loss of both of her parents, offering the kind of perspective you only gain in hindsight.

We talk about honoring well, having the conversations before you have to, holding space for complicated emotions, and what really matters in the end. Whether you’re in the thick of it, watching it inch closer, or wishing you still had the chance — this conversation is for you.

Because somehow, we’re still their kids… and now we’re becoming the grown-ups in the room.

This episode marks a pivot for us. We’re choosing lighter, brighter, and forward-focused—and learning how to trust God with what’s next. We talk about God-sized dreams, releasing old rhythms, and believing that His plans are better than the ones we try to control. We share how God is shifting our goals in unexpected ways: Kacie is stepping into rest and learning how to relax, while Steph can feel God clearly moving her in new and exciting directions. We also pull back the curtain on stepping into video and what it looks like to grow this podcast in a brand-new season.

But we don’t stop at the surface. We unpack what it really means to have God-sized dreams and how those differ from personal goals. How do you know when a dream is from God versus something you’re striving for on your own? What does it look like to let Him take the reins in both new and familiar places? This conversation is about God stirring up new dreams, opening unexpected doors, and inviting us to trust Him enough to simply come along for the ride.

We love the idea of doing hard things—until God actually asks us to.

In this episode of Kinda Preachy, we use the story of Moses and the burning bush as a springboard to talk about discipline, obedience, and why being called by God often exposes our insecurities instead of our confidence. Moses immediately questions, doubts, and lists all the reasons he’s not the guy—yet God responds simply: “I am who I am.”

We talk about how that same tension shows up in our lives today. Whether it’s caring for our bodies, showing up consistently, setting boundaries, staying disciplined in our faith, or saying yes to things that feel uncomfortable, hard things are rarely about our worthiness—and always about God’s.

This isn’t a hype-yourself-up episode. It’s a reminder that discipline, obedience, and consistency aren’t powered by confidence or motivation, but by trust in who God is. Because when God calls us to hard things, it’s never based on our strength—it’s based on His.

This episode has no outline. No agenda. And very little emotional regulation.

If perimenopause, storm prep, and intrusive thoughts had a baby—this episode would be it. What started as a normal recording quickly turned into one of those chaotic conversations where you cover everything and nothing at the same time.

We talk hormones, decision fatigue, weather anxiety, intrusive thoughts, and whatever else our midlife brains decided to throw into the mix. It’s unfiltered, slightly unhinged, and exactly what it feels like to drop into one of our real-life conversations.

Consider this a bonus episode. No big takeaway. No tidy ending. Just honest, chaotic connection. We went completely off track—and decided to leave it that way. Welcome to one of our most chaotic conversations yet.

Friendship in your 40s isn’t falling apart—it’s being redefined.

In this episode of Kinda Preachy, we talk honestly about what we actually want from friendship in this stage of life—and how those wants have changed. We unpack the tension between desire and reality: the ways we’ve shown up well, the ways we’ve missed the mark, and why meaningful friendships still matter deeply, even when our capacity feels stretched thin.

Between parenting, work, emotional labor, full calendars, shifting energy, and yes… a few hormonal curveballs, we explore how faith shapes friendship when availability is limited and expectations need adjusting. We talk about what the Bible says about faithful friendship, why good friends are necessary (not optional), and how grace—for ourselves and others—keeps relationships healthy in changing seasons.

And because we wouldn’t be us, we definitely go off track and take a few detours for real-life updates along the way.

This conversation isn’t about perfect friendship—it’s about honest connection, shared grace, and learning how to love people well with what we have. Limited capacity doesn’t mean limited love, and faithful friendship looks different in every season.

Some of the most powerful words shaping our lives were never spoken by God.

In this episode of Kinda Preachy, we unpack how the voices of others—and the quiet lies of the enemy—can slowly become louder than God’s truth. From labels we didn’t choose to repeated messages that shaped how we see ourselves, we talk about how familiar voices can start defining us.

We share honestly about moments when fear, culture, and outside expectations blurred the line between God’s voice and everything else—and how repetition can turn lies into something that feels true. We explore why those voices stick, how they impact our faith and identity, and what it looks like to begin unlearning them.

This conversation isn’t about blame or shame—it’s about discernment, renewal, and reclaiming authority over the story we’re living. Because if God never said it, maybe we don’t have to keep carrying it.

Honest, reflective, and just preachy enough to help us all listen more closely to the only voice that actually matters.

Imposter syndrome isn’t just feeling unqualified—it’s also being afraid to be who you actually are.

In this episode of Kinda Preachy, we unpack the tension between knowing God has gifted us and still shrinking back to fit in. Sometimes imposter syndrome looks like insecurity. Other times, it shows up as self-editing, quieting bold parts of ourselves, or choosing comfort over calling.

We share honestly about current church and job hurts—Kacie navigating how to apply her pastoral gifts in a new role, and Steph wrestling with feeling out of sync in her church home while still longing to belong.

We talk about how easy it is to follow the world instead of the Word, especially when bold faith feels risky. And we ask the hard question: What would it look like to live fully seen, deeply rooted, and unapologetically faithful in our current and new relationships?

If you’ve ever felt both unqualified and quietly afraid to be who you were created to be—this one’s for you. Honest, hopeful, and just preachy enough.

This episode went somewhere we didn’t plan—but maybe exactly where it needed to go.

What begins with a listener question about the stigma surrounding antidepressants quickly turns into a raw and honest conversation. Steph opens up about her experience with childhood abuse, and Kacie shares about an assault in early adulthood. These confessions were unplanned, but they were intentional moments of bringing what’s been hidden into the light.

Even as the topics get heavy, we do what we do best: bring levity, laughter, and a little trauma bonding along the way. Because healing doesn’t always look quiet, and joy and grief can exist in the same conversation.

This episode is about smashing stigma, dismantling shame, glorifying God, and refusing to keep silent about the things most people feel pressured to keep secret.

Listener discretion advised—come with courage.

In this episode, Steph takes us back to her 90s childhood in Utah — a place where coffee felt rebellious, almost everyone shared the same faith except her, and “fitting in” was just about attainable as perfection.

We dive into what it was like being the non-Mormon kid in a very Mormon world, how that shaped her identity, and why God sometimes places us exactly where we feel the most out of place. From school culture shock to Jell-O side dishes and the  spiritual lessons she didn’t know she was learning — it’s honest, hilarious, and surprisingly healing.

If you’ve ever felt like the odd one out, this episode reminds you that God wastes nothing… not even the weird chapters.

Disclaimer:
No Mormon-bashing, no theology wars, and absolutely no soaking explanations. Promise. Just two perimenopausal women sharing memories, laughing through the cringe, and trying not to offend anyone’s aunt in Relief Society.

This week on Kinda Preachy, we’re pulling back the curtain on the kind of grief nobody warns you about: the grief of losing the people, places, and callings we thought we’d be with forever.

Kacie opens up about the deeper layers of hurt she’s still discovering after stepping away from ministry—because apparently grief comes in waves, plot twists, and surprise reruns. And Steph shares how losing an entire friend group sucked but somehow became the thing God used to restore her marriage.

We talk about how abrupt loss knocks the wind out of you, how there is zero timeline for getting over anything, and how pretending to be “fine” is both unhelpful and hilariously inaccurate for us right now. Honestly? This episode felt more like a very public therapy session than a podcast… but we laugh through all of it because that’s who we are.

If you’re grieving what’s gone, feeling stretched in your faith, or just need to hear two perimenopausal women process their feelings with Jesus and questionable humor—this one’s for you.

Ever felt like heaven hit “Do Not Disturb” on your prayers? Same. In this episode, we get real about those seasons when faith feels quiet, your Bible gathers dust, and your heart feels a little… ghosted. We talk about what it looks like to stay grateful, stay disciplined, and stay in the Word even when you don’t feeling it.

It’s honest, it’s tender, it’s a little funny, and it’s exactly the reminder we all need: keep praying, keep showing up, and trust that God hasn’t gone anywhere.

Plus, you wont't want to miss a really exciting job update for Kacie!

We’re thrilled to welcome Nedra McDaniel of Adventure Mom to chat about the lessons she’s learned through grief, growth, and a whole lot of adventure. Nedra shares how losing her mom and brother inspired her to live intentionally and to become both an inviter and a yes-sayer. Along the way, we swap funny stories, talk about building community, and explore why simple invitations can lead to the most meaningful moments.

You can find more from Nedra at her site 

https://adventuremomblog.com/ and for more on her story on loss 

https://adventuremomblog.com/getting-year-firsts-lose-loved-one/

In this episode, Steph and Kacie get real about the deceitful comfort of stretchy pants, the betrayal of bathroom mirrors and a way to honest confession about our current perimenopausal weights. But, beyond the leggings and laughter, Steph shares one of her stories about infertility, faith and learning that while stretchy pants may lie, God never does. Tune in for humor, hope and a reminder that His timing is always worth the wait. We also may owe a small apology for unintentionally explaining about soaking, if you don't know what that is, well just know you will soon and we are sorry it was too funny not to edit out!

Remember that classic Friends episode where Ross, Rachel, and Chandler are stuck in a stairwell trying to move a couch, and Ross just keeps yelling, “PIVOT!”? Yeah, life can feel a lot like that. We’ve got our plans, our perfectly measured doorways, and then—bam!—the couch of reality gets jammed halfway up the stairs.

In this episode, we’re talking about what to do when life doesn’t fit through the doorway you expected. Sometimes God asks us to pivot—not because He’s changing His plan, but because He’s helping us find a better angle. We’ll laugh about the awkward turns, the moments when we feel stuck, and how leaning into God’s direction (instead of yelling “pivot” at the people around us) can help us handle life’s curveballs with a little more grace—and maybe a few fewer bruises.

Because let’s be honest: faith doesn’t make the couch lighter, but it sure helps us carry it better.

Welcome to the long awaited launch of Kinda Preachy! Listen to find out what Kinda Preachy really means and get to know your hosts Steph Moore and Kacie Bryant as they laugh their way through learning how to podcast. As two perimenopausal, former church staff who still feel called to share truth while healing, feeling and listening to those around us, we are ready get Kinda Preachy with you!