The night Jason Yocum hit a half-court shot at the buzzer, two of his friends were killed in a car crash. He was supposed to be in that car.

This time Nick's co-host is the guest. Jason grew up outside Macy, Indiana, and played for North Miami. In the last regular-season game of his senior year, on the road at Culver Military Academy, he pulled up from half court with the game tied. He tells the story of that shot, the car he never got into, and how one night turned a kid most people called "least likely to succeed" toward basketball, school and coaching.

Also in this episode: the dad who turned a chicken yard into his first court, a hitchhiker his father picked up who may or may not have been D.B. Cooper, the coach who wouldn't let him coast, why he tells kids not to put all their eggs in the sports basket, and the Travis Tritt concert he wishes he'd gone to.

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Paul Malott builds AI automation for a living, and he'll tell you that more often than not, the business asking for AI ends up needing a simpler fix to how it already works.

Nick and Jason talk with Paul, founder and CEO of Automations 24, about what AI actually is, where it helps, and where it gets in the way. Paul spent 15 years in procurement before he started automating small businesses, and he brings that process-first view to everything from ChatGPT to whether AI is coming for your job.

Also in this episode: why AI will tell you exactly what you want to hear, the fake LinkedIn profiles companies build to sell to you, why hustle alone doesn't get you there anymore, and what happens to real conversation when a chatbot does the talking.

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He writes every word. AI makes the music. So who's the artist?

J.S. Clockwise has written poetry for decades, always in rhyme and meter. He self-published a book of poems, and for about a year now he's been turning them into songs with generative AI and releasing the music.

Nick and Jason talk with him about:
- Judging every lyric by whether it sounds like something Leonard Cohen would say
- Why making an AI song means dozens, sometimes hundreds, of versions
- Giving the machine credit for the melody while keeping the words his own
- A fan's autograph request, and a stranger who was sure a song was about her
- His answer to people who say AI music isn't real music

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At 50, exhausted from two abusive marriages and a career spent taking care of everyone but herself, Pamela Topjian sold almost everything she owned, bought a one-way bus ticket, and left home not knowing where she'd land. Ten years later, she's a published author, a podcast host, and living what she calls the first equal, respectful marriage of her life.

In this episode, Pamela and Jason talk through the bus ride that changed everything, why she says she wasn't brave — just numb — and what actually happens in the years after you survive the thing that almost broke you.

About Pamela: She spent 14 years as a nurse before becoming a certified hypnotherapist and, later, a pet-sitting business owner. She's the author of two memoirs — "I Didn't Come This Far to Only Come This Far" and "Behind the Mask, Gloves, and Scrubs: One Nurse's Journey" — and hosts the Holistic Connections podcast, featuring conversations with holistic practitioners.

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YouTube — her own channel, under the name Pamela Topjian
Instagram — @holisticconnections.pamela
Podcast — Holistic Connections, Conversations with Holistic Practitioners
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Grant Shouse is 22 years old and has been inside 125 high school gyms in Indiana. He wants to be inside every one of them — somewhere north of 410 — before he turns 30.

He's also the inaugural radio voice of the Kokomo Creek Chubs, the city's brand-new Prospect League team, and he calls high school football and basketball across Grant, Wabash and Miami counties for Action Sports Network.

Jason sat down with him to talk about the part of the job nobody sees: what the schedule costs a 22-year-old, why he can't stand listening to his own tape, and the high school football finish he still can't explain — a lateral, a flag, an untimed down, a Hail Mary, and overtime, in a first-round sectional game that ended up on Pat McAfee's show.

Along the way: the rule he invented for whether a gym counts, the man three times his age who convinced him the goal was reachable, why an announcer goes quiet for forty-five seconds after the biggest call of the game, and the reason his dad wanted his middle name to be Espen — spelled E-S-P-N.

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At nine months old, Hunter Baughman's parents were told he had a zero percent chance of surviving bacterial meningitis. He's now closing out his sixth season on the National Professional Fishing League.

He barely mentions any of that here.

Jason talks with Hunter about the work instead — six-day tournament weeks, three daughters under six riding along, Sunday morning church service at the boat ramp, and the 2022 season that nearly ended his career before a win in Missouri bought him another year.

Also in this one: why he'd rather fish the hardest tournament on the schedule, the livewell rule he uses to reset after a bad hour, and why the sponsors from outside the fishing industry are the ones he brags on.

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 Heidi Mikac writes, directs and stars in her own films, and funds them with money from strangers who have never met her. She talks with Nick and Jason about Written in the Dark — the prequel to her award-winning Written in the Light — about the psychic-serial-killer feature she built out of something that really happened at her high school, and about why the film she's making now is the story she never planned to tell. This episode includes frank discussion of anorexia and bulimia. If you're struggling, the National Alliance for Eating Disorders helpline is at allianceforeatingdisorders.com. Find Heidi: youtube.com/@heidimikac5622 · Instagram @hmikac1 Back the film: https://fnd.us/22kyI8 What part of this conversation stood out to you? 

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 Misti Spencer was between twelve and fourteen the first time she was trafficked, and the person who did it was someone her family trusted. In this conversation she walks through how it actually begins - slowly, in small pieces, long before anyone would call it abuse - and why the people who do it are almost never strangers. This episode is a survivor's account, told for the purpose of prevention. It discusses human trafficking, child exploitation, and sexual abuse. Misti serves on the Advisory Board for the University of Central Florida Center for the Study of Human Trafficking and Modern Slavery and is a published contributing author through that Center. Her memoir, "Drinking Beauty and the Seven Narcissists: A Musical Journey," is available at drinkingbeautyjourney.com. If you need help: Childhelp National Child Abuse Hotline, call or text 800.422.4453. National Human Trafficking Hotline, 1-888-373-7888 or text JOIN to 233733. Both 24/7. Listen wherever you get your podcasts. 

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What do you do when life genuinely isn't fair? Beth Sherman — a board-certified Psychiatric Mental Health Nurse Practitioner, nurse, author, and speaker with more than 20 years of experience — joins Nick and Jason to talk through the framework she built from two decades of nursing, eight years working inside a state prison system, and her own fight with colorectal cancer: what she calls the FUF, or the F**ked Up Factor.

In this episode, Beth talks about where the FUF concept came from, learning to meet people where they are instead of judging them, surviving cancer at 39 after losing a friend to the same disease, and how she turned all of it into her book, What the FUF: Understanding the FUF—and Finding a Way Through. She also talks about her memoir, Looking Back It Was Funny.

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Wesley Key spent two years as an atheist, deep in seminary, trying to prove there wasn't a God. Today he owns two Chick-fil-A restaurants in Bloomington, Indiana, and he's just written his first book.

In this conversation, Wes sits down with Nick and Jason to talk through the parts of his story most people never hear: losing three family members within about a year, the anxiety and rock bottom that followed, and the night everything changed for him. He also talks about growing up a pastor's kid, what it actually took to build a career at Chick-fil-A, and how a simple restaurant vision statement became the title of his debut book, Inspire. Nourish. Cultivate.

This is one of the more openly faith-centered conversations in the show's history, and Wes is candid about all of it: the doubt, the loss, and what he found on the other side.

Wesley Key's book, Inspire. Nourish. Cultivate.: A Journey of Redemption. A Story of Hope., is out August 25th and available now for pre-order.

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CJ Wallis makes documentaries about the stories hiding behind things everyone thinks they already know — a Price Is Right superfan who beat the system, an NFL quarterback more misunderstood than his highlight reel suggests, and a video game that's kept a community together for decades. On this episode of Mosaic Minds Podcast, Nick and Jason sit down with the director of Perfect Bid to talk about how he finds these stories, earns the access to tell them right, and why he keeps coming back to Tecmo Bowl.

CJ walks through how he tracked down Ted Slauson, the Texas math teacher who quietly memorized decades of Price Is Right prizes, and the last-minute call that turned into Bob Barker's final interview. He also talks about Mad Mac, his long-in-the-works documentary on NFL quarterback Jim McMahon, and what it took to earn McMahon's trust over years of production. The conversation covers CJ's own path from competitive hockey goaltender to filmmaker, and the Tecmo Bowl League he runs — including an upcoming documentary on the community built around it and this year's Tecmo Bowl National Championships, August 8 at DJ's Dugout in Omaha.

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Salvadore Liberto returns ahead of Elton And Me, his night of Elton John classics and original songs at the Studio at the Allied Solutions Center for the Performing Arts in Carmel on Friday, September 25.

Sal plays his way through the conversation. He performs Skyline Pigeon and tells the story behind it — the song Elton John sang at Ryan White's funeral — and talks about how that friendship changed Elton's life. He explains how he sequences a show to earn an audience's trust, why hearing Elton's Live in Australia record as a teenager made him a musician in the first place, and what roughly 30,000 hours at the piano sounds like now. He also shares two originals, Now's the Time and Nothing Is Perfect, and closes with Daniel.

Along the way: the glasses, the shiny stage clothes, whether anyone can learn to sing, and the floating feeling he's had on stage maybe three times.

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- 00:00 Intro
- 01:30 Welcome back, Sal
- 03:12 New music and what's new in the show
- 04:15 The Ryan White story
- 05:29 "Skyline Pigeon"
- 07:32 How Ryan White changed Elton's life
- 10:15 Why return to the Allied Solutions Center
- 13:24 Wardrobe and the Elton glasses
- 14:39 "Now's the Time" (original)
- 16:01 Building a setlist and reading the room
- 20:21 Why Elton? Sal's origin story
- 23:57 Evolving as a player over the decades
- 26:24 "I'm Still Standing"
- 27:40 Singing and playing at the same time
- 31:17 The Carmichael and downtown Carmel
- 35:18 Music at home: walks with his daughter
- 36:31 Can anyone learn to sing?
- 40:06 Getting in the zone: the floating feeling
- 46:07 "Nothing Is Perfect" (original)
- 47:45 Elton And Me: show details for September 25
- 49:36 Where to find Sal + "Daniel"

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If you've ever felt like you're not enough — like you've lost yourself somewhere along the way — this conversation is for you.

Dr. Julie Basler returns to Mosaic Minds for an honest talk about burnout, depression, self-worth, and finding your way back. As an author, speaker, and former college president and board chair, she knows what it's like to look successful on the outside while quietly struggling underneath — and she's here to remind you that you're not alone, and you matter.

In this episode:
• Why "knowing you're enough" and "feeling you're enough" are two different things
• The advice she got at 27 — "never take your jacket off" — and what it really meant
• Trading the suit for tennis shoes: leading among people, not above them
• How her mental health and her career collided — and how she came back
• The freight-train-vs-locomotive boardroom moment
• Why she handwrites a letter to a stranger every Friday
• The story behind her new book, "She's Strong Enough to Break"

CHAPTERS
00:00 "Knowing you're enough and feeling you're enough are two different things"
02:00 Meet Dr. Julie Basler & the new book
07:48 "I Kept My Jacket On" — the advice she got at 27
09:31 Trading the suit for tennis shoes: leading among them, not above them
12:36 Going to the deep end: writing with raw vulnerability
15:16 When mental health and career collide
19:32 Grieving the title vs. keeping the mission
21:14 The text experiment: what every woman wrote back
22:23 Freight train vs. locomotive — the boardroom story
25:53 The most underrated leadership trait
28:12 Who the book is really for
30:54 The Friday letter project
50:26 One piece of advice to leave you with
51:50 Where to find Julie & the book

ABOUT THE GUEST
Dr. Julie Basler is an author, keynote speaker, and former college president and board chair. Her new book is "She's Strong Enough to Break: How Female Leaders Can Reclaim Their Mental Health, Their Boundaries, and Their Lives Without Losing Their Seat at the Table."

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📖 Book and Website available on July 1: https://juliebasler.com

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A note: this episode touches on mental health and depression. If you're struggling, please know you're not alone — consider reaching out to a mental health professional or someone you trust.

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This week, Mosaic Minds Podcast welcomes Chris Gonzales — host of Gonzo Sports Room, Gonzo’s Wrestling Room, and Face or Heel Pro Wrestling Talk.

Chris shares how his career shifted from plumbing to podcasting, his journey through Indiana’s independent wrestling promotions, and his passion for sports like the Colts, Reds, and Pacers. He also opens up about building a family-run podcast with his dad, favorite interviews, and future goals like calling pro games or hosting live podcast events.

Tune in for a conversation that blends wrestling, sports, and the hustle of podcasting in the Midwest.

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Comedian and actress Katie K joins Mosaic Minds Podcast for an episode full of chaos, comedy, and career moves. From wrestling in 42 batches of Jell-O to landing a spot on America’s Got Talent, Katie shows how talent, timing, and a little bit of trash can lead to treasure.

We cover her Dry Bar Comedy special that’s been stuck in the Top 10 since release, her newest special with LMAOF, and the viral comedy album “I Am the Trash.” Katie also opens up about building a career on both clean and spicy material, why reading the room matters, and how short clips can open massive doors.

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The rules for finding work have changed — and Dr. Chaz Austin is here to guide you through the new landscape.

In this episode, Dr. Chaz shares actionable steps to land work in 2025, whether you’re switching careers, re-entering the job market, or looking to future-proof your current position. From building a personal brand to using networking as your “side door” into opportunities, his advice can help you bypass outdated hiring practices and connect directly with decision-makers.

Key takeaways:

• The corporate ladder is gone — here’s what replaced it
• How to identify skills that people will pay for
• The right way to network in any industry
• Turning passions into income (and knowing when you can’t)
• Why adaptability is your most valuable career skill

📌 Guest Links:
Website: https://chazaustin.com/
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Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/chaz.austin.7
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David Page once asked Gaddafi about cross-dressing. He’s been in bunkers during revolutions. And yes — he created Diners, Drive-Ins and Dives (the one with the spiky blonde hair guy).

In Episode 64 of Mosaic Minds, we talk to the man behind the madness. From NBC war reporting to pioneering food television, David shares how storytelling shaped his path — and how he continues doing it today through his podcast Culinary Characters Unlocked.

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Dave Robisch isn’t just a Kansas Jayhawk legend — he’s one of the greatest scorers in KU history and a 13-year pro who lived through the wild, revolutionary days of the ABA. In this episode, Dave sits down with Nick and Jason to share his journey from Springfield, Illinois to Final Fours and ABA arenas. He opens up about his proudest basketball moments, the heartbreak of falling short against UCLA, and his advocacy with the Dropping Dimes Foundation — fighting for justice for forgotten ABA players who never got their due after the NBA merger.

We cover:

• His standout career at KU, including his 1971 Final Four run
• Wild behind-the-scenes stories from the ABA
• The injustice many ABA players still face today
• Why the Dropping Dimes Foundation matters
• How it felt to have his jersey retired and his name etched into Kansas basketball history

Whether you’re a die-hard hoops fan or just love a good redemption story — this one’s for you.

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Description/Show Notes:
NBA Hall of Famer Rick Barry joins Mosaic Minds for a powerful conversation that goes far beyond basketball.

In this special re-release, we revisit our interview with one of the most outspoken and iconic figures in hoops history—now newly appointed to the board of the Dropping Dimes Foundation.

Rick opens up about:

His days in the ABA and NBA

Why he shot free throws underhanded—and why more players should

His passion for justice for former ABA players left behind after the NBA merger

The work Dropping Dimes is doing to support these forgotten pioneers

Rick Barry brings fire, fun, and full honesty—and this episode is more relevant than ever.
Support the cause. Learn the history. Share the message.

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“They gave everything to the game… and were forgotten.”

We’re re-releasing this powerful interview with ABA legend Bob Netolicky—because honestly, it didn’t get the love it deserved the first time. And with everything we’ve been doing to support the Dropping Dimes Foundation and the new documentary The Waiting Game, it’s the perfect time to spotlight Bob’s voice again.

Bob is more than just a four-time ABA All-Star and Indiana Pacers icon. He’s a co-founder of Dropping Dimes, a foundation fighting to secure justice and support for the pioneers of the ABA—players who changed the game but were left behind when the NBA merged.

We talk hoops, history, and heartbreak... plus:

Why these forgotten legends still haven’t been properly recognized

How Dropping Dimes Foundation is stepping up

What it was really like in the ABA

Bob’s own fight for the players who built the modern game

He’s also featured in The Waiting Game, the indie documentary shaking up the basketball world with its honest look at the ABA/NBA merger and the injustice that followed.

📖 Grab Bob’s book: https://www.amazon.com/We-Changed-Game-Bob-Netolicky/dp/0976444380

🎬 Watch The Waiting Game trailer: https://www.thewaitinggamemovie.com/

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He owns 310 tracks. He’s studied under legends. And he plays like he was born with the guitar in his hands.
Jonathan Taylor is a world-touring classical guitarist with over 30 albums and a legacy that’s shockingly under the radar. He’s performed alongside greats like Pavarotti, studied under maestros like Pepe Romero and Frederick Noad, and owns every note he’s ever released—a level of independence most artists only dream of.

In this episode, Jonathan dives deep with Nick and Jason into:

What makes music truly timeless

Why modern perfection is the enemy of great art

The difference between music and "musical entertainment"

Stories from the road, from the Philippines to California

His bold takes on today’s music industry, legacy, and authenticity

🎸 Whether you're a music lover, artist, or just someone who respects authenticity—this episode is a masterclass in greatness.

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🎧 SoundCloud: soundcloud.com/user-75630746-880803498

🟢 Stream his music on Spotify, Apple Music, Amazon Music, Pandora, and SiriusXM
📀 32 Albums | 310 Tracks – 100% owned

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They changed the game. The three-point shot, the slam dunk contest, the fast, high-energy style of play—that all came from the ABA. But when the NBA and ABA merged, the players who helped build modern basketball were left with nothing.

In this episode of Mosaic Minds Podcast, Michael Husain, the writer and director of The Waiting Game, joins us to talk about the injustice faced by former ABA players and how his documentary is exposing the truth.

Many retired ABA legends are struggling—some are homeless, some can’t afford life-saving medicine, and they’ve been denied the pensions and recognition they deserve. This documentary, The Waiting Game, shines a light on their battle and the efforts of the Dropping Dimes Foundation to get them the help they need.

Nick and Jason attended a screening of The Waiting Game at Newfields and were blown away by its impact. Now, we sit down with Michael to discuss the fight for justice, the NBA’s response, and how this film could rewrite basketball history.

🔥 Watch now and join the conversation!

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The Waiting Game Official Website: https://thewaitinggamemovie.com/
Dropping Dimes Foundation: https://droppingdimes.org/
The Waiting Game Facebook Page: https://facebook.com/p/The-Waiting-Game-Movie-61565038380468/
The Waiting Game Insta: https://www.instagram.com/thewaitinggamemovie/
Good Vibes Insta: https://www.instagram.com/goodvibesmedia/


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Brittany Racine’s story is one of resilience, reinvention, and relentless ambition. In this episode, we sit down with Brittany as she shares her incredible journey from personal struggles to real estate success and becoming a TV host.

💡 What you’ll hear in this episode:
 ✅ How Brittany navigated life after divorce and a failed business
 ✅ Why taking risks led to unexpected career breakthroughs
 ✅ The behind-the-scenes world of real estate TV hosting
 ✅ Market insights and the future of real estate

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Tonight on Mosaic Minds Podcast, we get real about pro wrestling with a guy who's been in the business for nearly four decades—TJ Powers.

If you tuned in a few weeks ago, you remember Mike Noble (Mr. Friday Night) and his championship run. TJ was in his corner, making sure things went his way... or at least trying to. Now, he's here to break down what really happened and share some wild behind-the-scenes stories from WWF, WCW, and independent wrestling.

💥 In this episode:

• What went down when Mike Noble lost his title
• The art of being a heel and why it’s tougher than it looks
• TJ’s run-ins with wrestling legends like Big Van Vader, Brutus "The Barber" Beefcake, and more
• Hard-hitting injuries and the toll wrestling takes on your body
• How WCWO is shaping the future of pro wrestling

If you’re a wrestling fan, you do not want to miss this one.

🎟️ Catch live wrestling in Indianapolis!
📍 WCWO Wrestling Arena | 1151 Kentucky Ave, Indianapolis, IN
⏰ Doors open: 6:30 PM | Bell time: 7:30 PM

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In this episode, hosts Nick and Jason reconnect with their friends and culinary experts, Matthew Gray and Jared Gleaton, for an in-depth discussion about the current state of restaurant culture and food critique. This episode is packed with lively debates, humorous insights, and thoughtful commentary on topics such as:

• The Evolution of Dining: Exploring how ambiance, service, and culinary quality shape our dining experiences.
• Tipping Culture: A critical look at the modern tipping system and its impact on both diners and restaurant staff.
• Food Critique: Debates on traditional American steak culture versus international culinary excellence, including discussions on steak, tartare, and more.
• Personal Anecdotes: From near-miss kitchen mishaps to the real-life stories behind memorable meals, our guests share experiences that are as educational as they are entertaining.

Guest Profiles:

• Matthew Gray – A seasoned food critic and the voice behind the podcast 50 Tastes of Gray. His sharp insights and passion for culinary arts add depth to every discussion.
• Jared Gleaton – The creative mind behind the book A Feast for the Senses – The Psychological Art of Eating Well. Jared brings a unique perspective on fine dining and everyday culinary delights.

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What happens when the spotlight fades? Former NBA All-Star James Donaldson has faced battles far tougher than anything on the court. After nearly losing his life to a medical emergency, suffering financial setbacks, and battling mental health struggles, James found a new purpose—helping others find hope.

In this episode, we dive into:
🏀 His journey from NBA dominance to real-life challenges
💔 Losing everything—and finding a way forward
🧠 The importance of mental health and why it’s often ignored in sports
📖 His book Celebrating Your Gift of Life and why he wrote it
🌍 How Your Gift of Life Foundation is making an impact

🔗 Connect with James Donaldson:
🌎 Website: https://standingabovethecrowd
📖 Book Website: https://yourgiftoflife.org/
📷 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/donaldson4189/
▶️ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@YourGiftofLifeFoundation-y5u

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#MentalHealthMatters #NBA #OvercomingAdversity #YourGiftOfLife #JamesDonaldson

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In this powerful episode of Mosaic Minds Podcast, we sit down with David Nordel, a retired Air Force Command Chief Master Sergeant, combat medic, and bestselling author. With 30 years of military experience, David shares his insights on leadership, resilience, and the challenges veterans face when transitioning to civilian life.

💬 Topics Covered in This Episode:
✔️ The real challenges veterans face when leaving the military
✔️ Leadership lessons from military service that apply to everyday life
✔️ PTSD, moral injury, and how they affect veteran transitions
✔️ What businesses must understand when hiring veterans
✔️ Why resilience is the key to success in any field

💡 Are You a Veteran or an Employer Looking to Support Veterans?
David Nordel works with both veterans and corporate leaders to bridge the gap in military-to-civilian transitions. Learn more at:
🔗 MaxFabConsulting.com – Helping veterans transition successfully
🔗 GetVetReady.org – Helping employers create veteran-friendly workplaces

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Description:
In this episode, Nick and Jason sit down with Mike Noble, the WCWO Gunslinger Champion, to talk about his rise in professional wrestling, his love for the sport, and his championship mentality. From his humble beginnings as a fan to becoming one of Indiana’s top wrestling stars, Mike shares his experiences, challenges, and triumphs in the industry.

We also talk about the WCWO wrestling scene in Indianapolis, where every Friday night, top-tier independent wrestling takes over WCWO Outlaw Arena at 1151 Kentucky Ave, Indianapolis, IN 46221. If you love professional wrestling, this is the place to be!

Topics Covered:
✅ Mike Noble’s wrestling journey and how he became "Mr. Friday Night"
✅ What it takes to train and perform at a high level
✅ The evolution of independent wrestling and the WCWO experience
✅ The challenges of being a heel and working with a wrestling advocate
✅ What’s next for Mike Noble and how fans can follow his career

🎟️ WCWO Wrestling - Every Friday Night!
📍 Location: WCWO Outlaw Arena, 1151 Kentucky Ave, Indianapolis, IN 46221
⏰ Bell Time: 7:30 PM | Doors Open: 6:30 PM

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This week on Mosaic Minds Podcast, we’re thrilled to host Holly Hester, a powerhouse of creativity and faith. Holly is a talented actress, painter, speaker, author, and preacher who seamlessly weaves together her artistic talents and spiritual calling to inspire others.

In this conversation, Holly shares her journey in the arts, how she brings her faith into her work, and the impact she hopes to make through storytelling and painting. Whether she’s on stage, behind a canvas, or speaking to an audience, Holly’s dedication to her craft and message shines through.

What You'll Learn in This Episode:

• Holly’s journey into acting and painting
• How her faith shapes her art and message
• Insights into balancing multiple creative outlets
• Tips for staying inspired and true to your calling

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In this exciting episode of Mosaic Minds Podcast, we sit down with Ezra Evans, a professional golfer, entrepreneur, and family man with an incredible journey. From discovering golf at age 20 to competing on international tours and building a thriving business, Ezra’s story is one of perseverance, faith, and success.

What you’ll hear in this episode:

• How Ezra transitioned from basketball to golf and excelled as a late starter.
• Behind the scenes of playing on the Gira de Golf Profesional Mexicana and navigating the competitive world of golf.
• Insights into Ezra’s video game console resale business and the entrepreneurial lessons he’s learned along the way.
• The mental side of golf: how a mental coach helped Ezra unlock his potential on the course.
• Ezra’s faith journey and how it has shaped his life, parenting, and career.
• The challenges and triumphs of balancing professional sports, business, and family life.

Ezra’s down-to-earth personality, passion for golf, and dedication to family make this episode a must-listen for anyone seeking inspiration in their personal or professional life.

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•  Connect with Ezra:
•  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ezrabevans/
•  Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/ezra.evans.3

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• Sponsors: Srixon Golf, Wilson Golf, Right Balance Golf
• Mental Golf Type coaching for improving your game.

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"🎙️ Dive into an extraordinary journey with Matthew Gray, from touring with iconic rock bands like The Eagles to becoming one of Hawaii's top culinary influencers. 🍽️ In this episode of Mosaic Minds Podcast, Nick and Jason chat with Matthew about his adventures in the music industry, cooking for Hollywood elite, and his passion for food, wellness, and storytelling. 🌴✨

Matthew also shares behind-the-scenes stories, culinary tips, and his incredible transformation journey into metabolic health coaching. Don’t miss this inspiring and flavor-packed episode! 🌟

🔗 Check out Matthew Gray:

Website: hawaiifoodtours.com
Podcast: 50 Tastes of Grey on LoveLife.com
Book: The Ultimate Eater's Guide: Hawaii Edition
💬 What’s your favorite dish to cook? Let us know in the comments!

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2024 has been a transformative year for Mosaic Minds Podcast, and in this special episode, Nick and Jason reflect on the guests and moments that defined their journey. Highlights include:- Bob Netolicky: ABA legend sharing stories of the Pacers, Elvis, and the Dropping Dimes Foundation. Dr. Julie Bosler: A heartfelt conversation on mental health and her powerful backpack analogy.  Den Den: Celebrating his love for Indianapolis and his uplifting videos. M. Curtis McCoy: Transforming the podcast’s growth with SEO and marketing insights. Pat Rose & Camden Smith: A wrestling and music legacy shared by father and son. Brigitte Ortiz: A record-breaking guest promoting Bad Apples and repping Indianapolis. This year-in-review episode is a tribute to the incredible guests and loyal viewers who’ve made Mosaic Minds Podcast thrive. From lessons learned to relationships built, Nick and Jason share their gratitude and excitement for what’s to come in 2025. Thank You! To our guests, viewers, and supporters—thank you for being part of this journey. If you have guest suggestions or topics you’d like to see in 2025, let us know! 
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In This Episode

• Corey’s “7-Figure Prison” – How he pivoted from a super-successful (but draining) real estate gig into a fully decentralized finance approach.
• DeFi 101 – Breaking down how to truly “be your own bank” and earn passive income without going through middlemen.
• Crypto Cycles & Timing – Why Corey says you can often pinpoint the top and bottom of each 4-year crypto cycle—and how to cash in on those wild swings.
• Real Estate vs. Crypto – Using crypto for wealth creation and real estate for wealth preservation.
• Meme Coins & NFTs – Are they just hype, or the next big thing? Corey dishes on the huge risk and potential reward.

Guest Bio
Corey Geary is a former real estate investor who shifted gears into the crypto space and never looked back. Now he lives in Puerto Rico, mentors others on decentralized finance, and helps people unlock the kind of freedom that goes way beyond a paycheck.

Where to Find Corey

• Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/corey.geary.7
• Instagram: instagram.com/thecoreygeary
• Twitter (X): @Corey_Geary5555
• Get all his links here:  https://coreygeary.pls.fyi/ 

Thanks for Listening
If you enjoyed this episode, please subscribe, leave a review, and share it with friends who might dig the crypto and real estate vibes. Catch you on the next Mosaic Minds!

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In this Christmas Eve episode, we’re thrilled to welcome Brigitte Ortiz, an actress, international runway model, and entrepreneur. Brigitte shares her inspiring journey in the entertainment industry, her experience starring in the indie horror film Bad Apples, and what it’s like running her cosmetics company, BG Royals Cosmetics.

🎬 What’s Inside This Episode:

• How Brigitte got started in acting and modeling
• Behind-the-scenes stories from the set of Bad Apples
• Insights into the world of fashion and runway modeling
• Brigitte’s entrepreneurial ventures, including custom gift baskets

This episode is perfect for anyone curious about breaking into acting or modeling, learning about indie films, or balancing creativity with business!

💻 Connect with Brigitte Ortiz:
Instagram: Brigitte_Ortiz_

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Happy Holidays from the Mosaic Minds Team!

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🎧 Episode Highlights
In this episode of the Mosaic Minds Podcast, we sit down with Michael Ford — a man of many talents who seamlessly blends the worlds of music, entrepreneurship, and fishing. From award-winning DJing to running his custom bait and rod business, Michael shares how he stays grounded, creative, and driven.

What You’ll Learn in This Episode:
✅ How Michael turned his love for DJing into award-winning success.
✅ The secrets behind his custom bait and rod business, Midwest Custom Baits.
✅ Balancing entrepreneurship, family, and faith as a passionate creator.
✅ The 317 Music Scene: Michael’s thoughts on the local industry and overcoming challenges.
✅ Why Lando’s Flame Aid and homemade chicken wings are must-tries in Indianapolis.

🎤 Guest Links:

• Find all of his badassery at AllMyLinks.com/djtwistmoney
• Midwest Custom Baits & Michael’s Facebook
• https://nervedjsmixtapes.com/
• Follow Michael on Instagram and TikTok: @DJTwistMoney317
• Stream Michael’s music on Apple Music, Spotify, and Bandcamp.

Don’t forget to like, share, and subscribe to catch more inspiring stories like Michael’s! 🙌

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In this episode of Mosaic Minds Podcast, we sit down with Camden Smith, aka Ty Rose, a rising star in professional wrestling and an accomplished country musician. Camden talks about:

• Growing up with his father, legendary wrestler Pat Rose.
• How he chose the name "Ty Rose" for the ring.
• His early struggles, challenges, and triumphs in wrestling.
• Balancing his dual passions for music and wrestling.
• Heartfelt family moments, including a tribute song to his father.

Whether you're a wrestling fan, a music lover, or just someone who appreciates stories about chasing your dreams, this episode will resonate with you.

Episode Highlights:
🎤 Camden performs a moving tribute song for his dad.
🤼‍♂️ Hear about Camden's first matches and how his dad helped train him.
🎸 Camden shares the story behind his passion for country music.

Connect with Camden:

🎸 Music: Camden Smith Music
Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/camdensmithmusic/
Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/camdensmithmusic
TikTok - https://www.tiktok.com/@camdensmithmusic
Link Tree - https://linktr.ee/camdensmithmusic

🤼‍♂️ Wrestling: Ty Rose Wrestling
Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/tyrosewrestling/
Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61562117100779

#MosaicMindsPodcast #WrestlingLegacy #CountryMusic #ProWrestler #TyRose #PodcastEpisode #WrestlingStories #familylegacy 

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 Join us in this eye-opening episode as we sit down with Joy Lechner, a licensed acupuncturist and integrative medicine expert, to explore her personal journey of overcoming cancer and redefining healing. Joy dives into the power of emotional resilience, natural medicine, and the importance of balancing Eastern and Western approaches to health. Whether you're curious about alternative healing methods or just seeking inspiration for your own life journey, this conversation is packed with wisdom and actionable takeaways.

👉 Discover the keys to emotional health and mental resilience
👉 Learn how integrative medicine can complement traditional treatments
👉 Get inspired by Joy’s transformative healing story

Visit Joy's Websites: https://www.joyrisingcoaching.com https://joylechner.com/
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Welcome back to Part 2 of our captivating conversation with Brigham Blackham! In this episode, we continue uncovering the secrets to powerful storytelling. Brigham dives even deeper into the importance of crafting sensory-driven narratives, connecting with your audience, and using storytelling as a tool for leadership, business growth, and personal transformation.

Missed Part 1? Be sure to check it out https://youtu.be/fxYxPopXKlI

Brigham brings a wealth of knowledge as a success story strategist, success coach, and host of the Levelin’ Up Podcast. Whether you’re a leader, entrepreneur, or just someone looking to communicate better, you don’t want to miss these actionable tips and inspiring insights!

Connect with Brigham Blackham:
Linktree - https://linktr.ee/brighamblackham
Podcast - https://levelinup.podbean.com/
Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/brigham.blackham/
Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/Brigham.Blackham/
Business Site (short-term accommodations) - https://www.staybnbee.com/

#Storytelling #UnlockYourStory #SuccessStories #BusinessGrowth #PersonalDevelopment #Leadership #MosaicMindsPodcast #BrighamBlackham #LevelinUp #Podcast

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In Part 1 of this dynamic two-part series, Brigham Blackham, success coach and host of the Levelin' Up Podcast, takes us on an exciting journey into the world of storytelling. Brigham reveals how mastering your personal and business narrative can unlock growth, influence, and leadership potential. This episode is packed with practical tips on how to craft and share stories that resonate with others, empowering you to make lasting connections and drive success.

Don’t miss out—stay tuned for Part 2 next week where we continue exploring storytelling secrets!

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In this episode of the Mosaic Minds Podcast, hosts Nick and Jason welcome Reggie Edwards, a journalist and media personality deeply involved in the wrestling scene. Reggie shares insights about his multifaceted career, including his roles in WCWO Wrestling, Indie Sports Daily, and Front Row Report. The conversation explores the dynamics of wrestling culture, the intelligence of wrestling fans, the historical territorial battles in wrestling, and the evolution of athleticism in the sport. Reggie also delves into the creative process behind wrestling storylines, emphasizing the importance of storytelling in engaging the audience. In this conversation, Reggie Edwards discusses the intricacies of wrestling match crafting, character transformations, and the vibrant atmosphere of live wrestling events. He shares insights into his journey as a photographer, highlighting the differences between photographing sports and concerts, and emphasizes the unique charm of Indianapolis as a hub for sports and music. In this engaging conversation, Reggie Edwards shares his experiences growing up in a small town, the sense of community that comes with it, and how sports and music have intertwined in his life. He discusses the challenges of balancing a busy career in photography and sports with family life, while also looking forward to future projects and community engagement opportunities. The conversation highlights the nostalgia of small-town life, the excitement of concerts, and the importance of family and community.   #MosaicMindsPodcast #ReggieEdwards #FrontRowReport #JournalismLife #MusicJournalism #RockIcons #PodcastInterview #storytelling 

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In this episode of *Mosaic Minds Podcast*, we dive into the life and career of Stevie Leigh—an outdoorswoman who’s redefining what it means to be a social media influencer in the fishing and outdoor world. Stevie opens up about her journey, from her start in social media to establishing herself as both a skilled angler and a magnetic personality. She shares her insights on balancing her passion for fishing with her online brand, all while challenging stereotypes of what a “fishing influencer” looks like.

Stevie also gives us a peek behind the scenes, sharing the ups and downs of life on the road, the reality of building an authentic brand, and the value of networking in the fishing industry. Her stories are packed with humor and honesty—from fan encounters to unforgettable experiences with legendary anglers. Plus, she’s not shy about giving her unfiltered thoughts on the fishing community and the influencers who inspire her.

Whether you’re a die-hard angler, a social media enthusiast, or just someone looking for an inspiring story, this episode is for you. Join us as we talk shop, swap stories, and gain a deeper understanding of what it takes to be a force in the outdoors world.

**Episode Highlights:**

- Stevie's journey from casual angler to social media powerhouse

- Tips for staying authentic and building a loyal online following

- The challenges (and perks) of life on the road as an influencer

- Networking in the fishing industry: Stevie’s best advice

- Candid stories about meeting some of fishing’s biggest legends

- And more!

**Connect with Stevie Leigh:**

Instagram: [@stevie_outdoors007](https://www.instagram.com/stevie_outdoors007)

Booking Email: s.outdoors10@gmail.com

**Don’t forget to like, comment, and subscribe!** We release new episodes every Tuesday at 5 AM, so stay tuned for more inspiring conversations with fascinating guests from all walks of life.

**#MosaicMindsPodcast #StevieLeigh #FishingInfluencer #OutdoorLife #PodcastEpisode #AnglerLife #SocialMediaInfluencer #WomenWhoFish #FishingCommunity**

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In this episode of the Mosaic Minds podcast, hosts Nick and Jason engage with Darnell Hillman and Scott Tarter, discussing the Dropping Dimes Foundation, which supports former ABA players facing hardships. They share personal stories of players in need, the impact of the foundation, and the upcoming documentary that aims to shed light on the struggles of these athletes. The conversation also touches on the evolution of basketball styles, personal connections between the guests, and the legacy of the ABA in the context of the NBA. In this engaging conversation, Nick and Jason explore the rich history of basketball in Indiana, the impact of media on the growth of the ABA, and the future aspirations for player recognition and support. They delve into the legacy of Darnell Hillman, the first-ever slam dunk champion, and discuss the importance of community engagement through the Dropping Dimes Foundation, which aims to support former ABA players and their families.

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Check out the Documentary - The Waiting Game

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In this exciting episode of Mosaic Minds Podcast, we sit down with Louisville's own real estate innovator, Rob Bergeron, to uncover his unconventional strategies for success. Rob opens up about his journey from insurance sales to real estate and how he's using everything from AI technology to micro-dosing for a creative edge in his business. We also dive into his vision for creating a new dating app tailored to real estate enthusiasts and why mixing passions like horse racing, pickleball, and fishing has helped him connect with clients on a deeper level.

Tune in to hear about:

Rob’s philosophy behind his "Six Feet Over" approach and transparency in real estate.
The role of AI in finding off-market deals and optimizing his business through Deals Off Market.
Why micro-dosing became a part of his routine before speaking engagements.
His vision for a new dating app that combines lifestyle and real estate networking.
If you're interested in real estate, building authentic connections, or just curious about how to blend business with lifestyle and a touch of tech, this episode is for you!

For more insights and deals, check out Rob’s platform: https://www.dealsoffmarket.ai/.

#RealEstateRevolution #AIinRealEstate #MicroDosing #LouisvilleKY #MosaicMindsPodcast #HorseRacing #Pickleball #FishingLife #CreativeNetworking #DatingApp #BusinessInnovation #PodcastEpisode

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 Join us on this episode of the Mosaic Minds Podcast as we dive deep into the world of bass fishing, adventure travel, and storytelling with renowned writer and fishing expert Pete Robbins. For nearly two decades, Pete has covered the bass tournament scene and has recently expanded his passion to include global fishing expeditions. From Mexico to Alaska, he shares his most memorable experiences, insights on the evolving fishing industry, and the adventures he curates through his site, Half Past First Cast. We also discuss his journey of balancing a legal career with his passion for writing, and how he turned a side hustle into a second successful career. If you're a fishing enthusiast, aspiring writer, or adventure seeker, you won’t want to miss this conversation!

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In this episode of the Mosaic Minds Podcast, we sit down with motivational speaker, podcast host, and coach Eric Jones Jr. to discuss his incredible journey of overcoming adversity. Born with a disability, Eric shares how he turned his challenges into a source of strength, inspiring others to push through their own struggles. From his early realizations about his life's purpose to offering advice on creating plans for success, Eric’s story is one of resilience, self-belief, and action.

Tune in as we dive into his powerful message, his thoughts on achieving goals, and how his personal journey is helping others face their obstacles head-on. You won't want to miss this motivational conversation!

#Inspiration #OvercomingAdversity #MotivationalPodcast #EricJonesJr #SuccessMindset #Resilience #PodcastLife #LifeChallenges #MosaicMindsPodcast #Underdog

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In this episode, Ryan Holsapple from FDN Sports interviews the creators and hosts of Mosaic Minds Podcast, Nick Williams and Jason Yocum. Get a behind-the-scenes look at how Mosaic Minds was born, the challenges of podcasting, and how these two balance their careers with their passion for content creation. From high-profile interviews with former Indiana Pacer Bob Netolicky to award-winning angler Mike Delvisco, Nick and Jason reflect on their journey and share valuable insights for aspiring podcasters.

Stay tuned for advice on breaking out of your comfort zone, growing a podcast audience, and what’s next for Mosaic Minds.

#PodcastJourney #BehindTheMic #MosaicMinds #FDNSports #podcastlife 

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The newest album, "Kyng," is available NOW!  Check it out HERE

In this episode of the Mosaic Minds Podcast, we sit down with the talented rock band The Venom Assembly to dive deep into their musical journey, from grassroots beginnings to their powerful live performances. Known for their intense energy and unique blend of blues, hard rock, and technical guitar mastery, the band shares insights into their creative process, the making of their latest album, and what drives their passion for music. We also discuss their growth as a band, the challenges they’ve faced, and what’s next on the horizon.

Join us as we explore the heart and soul behind The Venom Assembly's sound and hear stories from their time on stage and in the studio. This episode is perfect for music lovers, rock enthusiasts, and anyone looking to discover raw musical talent!

Topics Covered:

The origin and evolution of The Venom Assembly
Behind the scenes of their latest album, Kyng
How they balance performing live shows and creating new music
The challenges of the music industry and staying authentic
What’s next for the band and their upcoming projects
Don’t miss this exclusive interview with one of the most exciting bands from North East Pennsylvania!

#TheVenomAssembly #RockMusic #MusicJourney #BehindTheMusic #MosaicMindsPodcast

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In this episode of the Mosaic Minds Podcast, we sit down with talented musician Salvadore Liberto, who shares his journey and invaluable tips on achieving success in the music industry. From overcoming personal challenges to performing at iconic venues, Salvadore offers a wealth of knowledge for aspiring musicians and music lovers alike.

🔹 What You’ll Learn:

*How to navigate the music industry and build a successful career
*Proven strategies for overcoming obstacles and staying motivated
*Tips for booking  at notable venues and connecting with fans
*Salvadore’s personal experiences and lessons learned from his career

📌 Key Takeaways:

*Overcoming Challenges: Learn how Salvadore turned adversity into   opportunities.
*Building Connections: Discover how to effectively network and book performances.
*Career Growth: Gain insights into developing a sustainable and rewarding music career.

Whether you’re an aspiring artist or simply a music enthusiast, this episode is packed with actionable advice and inspiring stories. Don’t miss out on Salvadore’s unique perspective and practical tips for making it in the music world!

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YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@UCtcbHk8f0cugQa4zNXlaGcg 
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#MusicCareer #SalvadoreLiberto #MosaicMindsPodcast #MusicIndustryTips #CareerSuccess #PerformingArts #MusicJourney

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In this episode of the Mosaic Minds Podcast, we sit down with M. Curtis McCoy, a personal branding expert, bestselling author, motivational speaker, and President of News Wire Magazine. Curtis shares his incredible journey of overcoming adversity, including battling Type 1 diabetes and surviving a malignant brain tumor. He also dives into his passion for helping others reach their full potential through personal branding, leadership development, and public speaking. Join us for an inspiring conversation as Curtis reveals his strategies for building successful businesses and making an impact.

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How to find M. Curtis McCoy:
*LITERALLY Google "M. Curtis McCoy"
Website: https://mcurtismccoy.com/
News Wire Website: https://news-wire.com/
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In this first episode of our 2-part series, Dr. Julie Basler, President of Platt College, opens up about her own personal journey with mental health. We dive deep into breaking the stigma around mental health, discussing the importance of putting pride aside and seeking help. Dr. Basler’s raw and honest perspective sheds light on the challenges many face, reminding us all that it's okay to not be okay. Whether you're facing your own struggles or supporting someone else, this conversation offers valuable insights for everyone.  In part 2, we'll have a short Q & A segment.  Submit your questions or comments to mosaicminds37@gmail.com or leave them in the YouTube comments.

Don’t forget to like, comment, and subscribe! If you have questions or ideas for Part 2, we’d love to hear them in the comments.

#BreakingTheStigma #MentalHealthAwareness #GetHelp #ItsOKtoNotBeOK #MosaicMindsPodcast

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 In this episode of Mosaic Minds Podcast, we sit down with Dr. Jason Altmire, President of Career Education Colleges and Universities (CECU) and host of the "Career Education Report" podcast. Dr. Altmire is a best-selling author and a former US Congressman that focused on education when in office. He shares his insights on why for-profit colleges often face negative perceptions from the government and public, and what can be done to change that narrative. We get his perspective, not only as the President of CECU, but also as a former US Congressman. We dive into the role these institutions play in higher education, the challenges they face, and their impact on the economy and workforce.

🔗 Learn more about CECU: https://career.org
🎙️ Listen to "Career Education Report": Available wherever you get your podcasts 🌐 Connect with Dr. Jason Altmire: https://jasonaltmire.com

#ForProfitColleges #HigherEducation #CareerEducation #JasonAltmire #CECU #CareerEducationReport #EducationPolicy #CollegeAdvocacy #TradeSchools #EducationReform #PodcastInterview #MosaicMindsPodcast 

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In this episode, we sit down with Michael Agugliaro, the founder of Warrior Today, business coach for FuDog Group, and son of our former guest, Mike Agugliaro. Michael's journey from a lifelong martial artist to a successful entrepreneur and mentor is nothing short of inspiring. At just 16, he established Warrior Today, a world-class martial arts organization, and by 18, he published the influential book How to Be a Modern Day Warrior. Now at 25, Michael is debt-free and running a diversified wealth portfolio while empowering individuals and businesses to reach their full potential.

Join us as we dive deep into his early start in martial arts, the challenges he overcame, his dedication to personal growth, and how he helps others achieve their dreams. Whether you're looking for insights into martial arts, entrepreneurship, or personal empowerment, this conversation is packed with value.

Connect with Michael Agugliaro:

• Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/michaelagugliaro/
• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/michael-agugliaro-a0a221244/
• Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/michael.agugliaro.3
• Website: https://fudoggroup.com/

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#WarriorToday #MichaelAgugliaro #MartialArts #Entrepreneurship #PersonalGrowth #MosaicMindsPodcast

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oin us in this fascinating episode of the Mosaic Minds Podcast as we welcome Jared Gleaton, a distinguished food critic and psychologist from Oklahoma. Jared delves into the captivating intersection of psychology and food, exploring how our senses shape our eating experiences and preferences. He shares practical tips on expanding our food palates, overcoming food biases, and breaking through food stereotypes.

In this insightful conversation, Jared discusses key takeaways from his latest book, "A Feast for the Senses: The Psychological Art of Eating Well," and how the lessons learned can be applied to enhance other areas of our lives. Whether you're a food enthusiast or simply curious about the psychology behind eating, this episode is sure to offer valuable insights.

Don't miss out on this exciting discussion and be sure to check out Jared's new book, "A Feast for the Senses: The Psychological Art of Eating Well."

Find Jared Gleaton on social media:
TikTok: @jaredgleatoneats
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Website: jaredgleatoneats.com
On Youtube:  @jaredgleaton  

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In this exciting episode of the Mosaic Minds Podcast, we sit down with the multifaceted Jimmy Barnes, a kayak angler with an impressive track record and the owner of Jimmy's Handyman Service. Jimmy shares his journey from being a seasoned tournament angler with top-ten finishes and a major win on the Arkansas River at Little Rock to owning a tackle shop where he represents major companies. Tune in to hear his expert insights on fishing, the balance of running a business, and the passion that drives his success on and off the water. Whether you're an angler, an entrepreneur, or just love a good story, this episode is packed with inspiration and practical advice.

#KayakFishing #TournamentAngler #FishingLife #HandymanService #EntrepreneurLife #FishingTips #TackleShop #ArkansasRiver #PodcastInterview #MosaicMindsPodcast #FishingSuccess #SmallBusinessOwner

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Welcome to Episode 25 of the Mosaic Minds Podcast! Today, we're thrilled to have Neil Snyder, a seasoned comedian, booker, and promoter, join us for an exclusive behind-the-scenes look at the world of comedy.

Neil Snyder has been making waves in the comedy scene since he started "Comedy in Crawfordsville" back in 2012. From winning the Funniest Education Professional in 2013 to performing at Gilda's Laughfest, Neil's journey is filled with fascinating stories and valuable insights.

In this episode, Neil shares his experiences of performing in various settings, from small-town bars to big stages, and how he balances G-rated and R-rated content. He also talks about his role in promoting larger events with Mad Hatter Shows and the current panel that they're doing with the cast of Napoleon Dynamite. 

Join us as Neil discusses:

His path to becoming a comedian and promoter
Memorable moments  in his career
The evolution of the comedy scene in West Central Indiana
Tips for aspiring comedians
Stories from his shows and tours
Don't miss this entertaining and insightful conversation with Neil Snyder!

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(317) 522-6784
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 Mike Agugliaro is a well-known entrepreneur, business coach, and speaker. He co-founded Gold Medal Service, a home services company, which he grew into a multi-million dollar business before selling it. He is also the founder of CEO Warrior, a business coaching and training organization that helps service business owners transform their companies He is currently the CEO and Founder of Fudog Group (https://fudoggroup.com). Agugliaro is known for his expertise in scaling businesses, improving leadership, and creating effective business strategies. He has authored several books and frequently speaks at industry events and conferences.  #BusinessGrowth #Entrepreneurship #Leadership #MikeAgugliaro #BusinessSuccess #CEOWarrior #HomeServices #CompanyCulture #BusinessStrategy #podcastinterview #viralvideo #fypシ゚viral #fyp ===========================================================
 How to find Mike: 
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In this week's episode, we're thrilled to chat with De'Asia & Tramell, the dynamic duo behind the successful YouTube vlog,  @DeAsiaTramell   They capture the heartwarming and thrilling moments of their family life, featuring their adorable infant daughter.

Join us as we dive into:

*The inspiration behind their family vlog
*How they balance family life and content creation
*The ups and downs of sharing their lives online
*Insights and tips for aspiring vloggers

De'Asia & Tramell's story is full of passion, adventure, and the beautiful chaos of family life. Whether you're a fan of vlogs, a content creator, or just love heartwarming stories, this episode is for you!

#MosaicMindsPodcast #FamilyVlog #DeAsiaAndTramell #Podcast #YouTubeVloggers #FamilyAdventures #Parenting #ContentCreation #Inspiration #newepisode #viralvideo #fypシ゚viral #fyp
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Youtube:  @DeAsiaTramell  
De'Asia's Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/deasia.overton
Tramell's Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/tramell.velez.9
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Former Colt's Tight End, Ken Dilger talks to us about his tenure with the Indianapolis Colts, the Combine, his wife's famous banana bread, and what he's doing these days as a mortgage originator for Bailey & Wood. 

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How to find Ken:
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In this special episode, we sit down with the incredibly inspiring, charismatic, and resilient Dennis McCray. Known to his followers as the visionary content creator, beloved community advocate, and social media sensation "Den Den.  Today we're getting to know the real Dennis.

Join us as we interview Dennis for his very first podcast:

His fast rise to fame and how he got started as a social media influencer.
His courageous battle with cancer and how he kept creating content through it all.
The deep love he has for his community and the importance of giving back.
Dennis's story is a testament to determination and positivity, even during the toughest times. Whether you're a longtime fan or new to his journey, this conversation is filled with inspiration and heartwarming moments you won't want to miss!
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Den Den's Top Secret Information:
*Den Den will host the 2024 Chreece Hip-Hop Festival - August 24 (Fountain Square)

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Check out his production, the social media soap opera, "46205". You can watch it on any of the 3 social media pages.
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Description: Join us on this special episode of the Mosaic Minds Podcast as we welcome our first live, in-studio guest, Rich Dowell! 🎤🎸 Rich is a talented singer and guitarist who plays at various bars and music venues. As an elementary school music teacher, Rich brings a unique perspective to his music, blending his love for teaching with his passion for performing.

In this episode, Rich treats us to some of his original songs, captivating covers, and hilarious parodies. We also dive into his songwriting process, his experiences performing live, and his favorite moments as a musician and teacher. A devoted Cubs fan and Beatles enthusiast, Rich's love for music and sports shines through in every note he plays.

Tune in for an entertaining and heartfelt session with Rich Dowell, where music, stories, and laughs are guaranteed!

Upcoming Performances:
Saturday, June 22nd, 2-4PM, Just Love Coffee in Carmel, 12525 Old Meridian (solo)

Saturday, June 29th, 6:30-8:30PM, Hermann Brewthers Bierwerks in Indianapolis (West side), 7811 West Morris Street (Rich and Brandon)

*First music event scheduled at this relatively new establishment.  Great beers and great pinball machines!

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Our guest today is none other than Ross Jeffries. With his groundbreaking methods in "Speed Seduction," Ross has authored numerous works and conducted seminars worldwide, helping countless individuals improve their confidence and social skills. His techniques, based on neuro-linguistic programming (NLP) and hypnotic language patterns, have sparked both acclaim and controversy.

Recently, Ross has taken his expertise into the realm of sales with his new book, "The Subconscious Sales Advantage." This exciting shift showcases the parallels between the art of seduction and the nuances of successful selling. We’ll be delving into these fascinating similarities during our conversation today. Plus, stay tuned until the end of the interview, because Ross is generously giving away free copies of his latest book!

Get ready for an insightful discussion as we explore Ross Jeffries' past accomplishments, his journey from dating coach to sales expert, and the valuable lessons that can be applied across both fields. Welcome to the show, Ross!

Speed Seduction Website:  https://speedseduction.ai/
Ross Jeffries' (Paul Ross's) Book: https://paulrossbook.com/
Paul Ross's Podcast: https://www.theinfluencersedge.com/

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Learn about the outdoors, and what it means to be passionate about nature.  Brian talks about his passion for nature, his business, involvement with the youth, and stepping away from electronics for a moment to breathe.  #fishingcommunity #outdoors #brianrobertsoutdoors

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In episode 17, we interview Dan Morehead.  No only has Dan earned over a million dollars in prize money from fishing, he has been on the cover of a cereal box and has plenty of other flexes.

With a career spanning decades, Dan shares his journey from his early beginnings in fishing to becoming a top competitor in the FLW Tour (now Major League Fishing Big5). Discover the secrets behind his success, his go-to techniques, and his insights on the evolution of the fishing industry.

In this engaging and informative interview, Dan reveals his preparation strategies for tournaments, the challenges he’s faced, and the memorable moments that have shaped his career. Whether you're an aspiring angler or a seasoned pro, Dan's advice and experiences offer valuable lessons and inspiration.

Tune in for a deep dive into the life of a professional angler and get ready to be hooked on the passion and dedication that drives Dan Morehead.

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Former NBA and ABA Hall of Fame player Rick Barry sits down with us to discuss his experiences in both the NBA and ABA.  He talks about his recent win of the triple crown in pickle ball, flyfishing, and much more.  Rick will explain his opinion on the difference between confidence and arrogance.  

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In this captivating episode, we sit down with Zion Dunaway, a forestry student at Purdue University and a rising star in the world of bass fishing.

Join us as we dive into Zion's remarkable journey, from his humble beginnings to becoming a formidable force on the collegiate bass circuit. Discover how he balances academic pursuits with entrepreneurship, running Southern Indiana Bait Company alongside his brother Xavier, all while making a splash in the competitive fishing scene.

Get ready for an engaging conversation filled with insights, anecdotes, and inspiration. From memorable tournament moments to the importance of giving back to the community, Zion shares his passion for fishing, forestry, and entrepreneurship in this must-watch episode.
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Zion & Xavier's Company Website
https://southernindianabaitco.com

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Step into the ring of life as we sit down for a heartfelt and genuine conversation with former pro wrestler, Pat Rose. Join us as we explore the highs and lows of Pat's wrestling journey, from the adrenaline-fueled moments in the spotlight to the deeply personal stories that touched his heart. From laughter to tears, Pat opens up about his experiences in the ring and the lessons learned along the way. With a steadfast faith and love for his country, Pat shares how these values have shaped his life both inside and outside the squared circle. So grab a seat and join us for an inspiring and uplifting episode as we discover the man behind the wrestler in From the Mat to the Heart with Pat Rose.

Pat Rose vs The Undertaker on Youtube
Set The Hook (Pat's Radio Show)
Jim Cornette's Drive-Thru (Episode 310)

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Join professional angler Mike Delvisco as he takes you on thrilling fishing adventures, shares expert tips, and dives deep into the world of competitive angling. Whether you're a seasoned angler or just starting out, you'll find valuable insights, techniques, and entertaining stories to elevate your fishing game. And hey, if you're looking for an experience 'Better than Earth Day,' you've come to the right place. Subscribe now and reel in the excitement!

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Texas Roadhouse
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Duckett Fishing
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Power-Pole

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Get ready to dive deep into the colorful world of ABA legend, and former Pacers player, Bob "Neto" Netolicky on today's episode of Mosaic Minds Podcast.   Famous for his exotic pets—a lion and an ocelot—and being dubbed the "Broadway Joe Namath of the ABA," Neto was more than just a player.  He sponsored race cars, ran a car dealership, and even made basketball history by playing for both teams in the same game under coach Slick Leonard.  Don't miss this episode where we explore the life and times of one of the ABA's most captivating characters.  Bob is very much involved in, and on the board of, Dropping Dimes Foundation.  Dropping Dimes Foundation aims to “give back” to deserving American Basketball Association players and personnel who provided significant entertainment and excitement to fans in the 1960’s and 1970’s.

Make a donation to Dropping Dimes Foundation - https://droppingdimes.org
Buy Bob's Book, "We Changed The Game"  

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Chat GPT, Chat bots, Virtual Support...  What's in store for us in the future with AI and new technology.  Is it something to embrace, something to fear, or maybe a little of both?

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