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    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Rau Hoskins (designTRIBE) and Werner Naudé (DCA Architects of Transformation) join Glenn Murdoch (Theca Architecture) to talk about intelligent design of educational buildings here in Aotearoa New Zealand. What are the risks in moving away from bespoke building design and the return to generic environments? Where does this leave kaupapa Māori and Pacific learning environments? What about differentiated learning? ]]></itunes:summary>
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    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[In this episode, hosts Ian Cumberpatch, Glenn Murdoch,  and Casey Curtis wrap up the series by revisiting the themes and key messages from guests to reflect on the big question - what is the role of architectural professionals in decarbonising building?  ]]></itunes:summary>
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