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    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[It's Just a Model is a biweekly conversation with Ron and Peet on the interstitium of innovation, tech, design, philosophy and behaviour. Your hosts are Ron Kersic and Peet Sneekes. In this podcast, we’ll be talking about the good, the bad and the interesting, all wrapped into an informal, unscripted conversation. CHAPTERS 00:00 — Intro01:50 — Twiddling Knobs08:20 — Information Wants To Be Free15:20 — Technology &amp; Complexity24:20 — What's My Job Again?36:00 — Software Brain48:30 — It's th...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p><b>It&apos;s Just a Model is a biweekly conversation with Ron and Peet on the interstitium of innovation, tech, design, philosophy and behaviour.</b></p><p>Your hosts are Ron Kersic and Peet Sneekes.</p><p>In this podcast, we’ll be talking about the good, the bad and the interesting, all wrapped into an informal, unscripted conversation.</p><p><b>CHAPTERS</b></p><ul><li>00:00 — Intro</li><li>01:50 — Twiddling Knobs</li><li>08:20 — Information Wants To Be Free</li><li>15:20 — Technology &amp; Complexity</li><li>24:20 — What&apos;s My Job Again?</li><li>36:00 — Software Brain</li><li>48:30 — It&apos;s the Mindset, Stupid</li></ul><p><b>LINKS</b></p><ul><li>Enshittification — https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enshittification</li><li>Teux Deux — https://teuxdeux.com/</li><li>Twiddling — https://pluralistic.net/2023/02/19/twiddler/</li><li>Kafe Belgie — https://www.kafebelgie.nl/</li><li>WOO — https://www.rijksoverheid.nl/onderwerpen/wet-open-overheid-woo</li><li>Active Apple Devices — https://appleinsider.com/articles/24/02/01/apple-has-one-active-device-per-four-people-on-the-planet</li><li>Everything is Amazing — https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YxgK2OjHA2Q</li><li>What&apos;s My Name Again — https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEhYp73X29A</li><li>Reshuffle Book — https://www.amazon.com/Reshuffle-wins-restacks-knowledge-economy-ebook/dp/B0DTKW6NQV</li><li>Hans Klok — https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hans_Klok</li><li>Matt Rife — https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matt_Rife</li><li>Jimmy Carr — https://www.jimmycarr.com/</li><li>The Law of Conservation of Attractive Profits — https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/15-law-conservation-attractive-profits-peter-knol-nxsse/</li><li>Software Brain — https://www.theverge.com/podcast/917029/software-brain-ai-backlash-databases-automation</li><li>Programming as Theory Building — https://gwern.net/doc/cs/algorithm/1985-naur.pdf</li></ul><p><b>ABOUT US</b></p><ul><li>It&apos;s Just A Model podcast: <a href='https://itsjustamodel.com/'>https://itsjustamodel.com</a></li><li>Ron Kersic -  <a href='https://www.linkedin.com/in/ronkersic/'> https://www.linkedin.com/in/ronkersic// ronkersic  </a></li><li>Peet Sneekes  - <a href='https://peetsneekes.com/'>https://peetsneekes.com</a></li></ul><p><b>SUBSCRIBE</b></p><ul><li> Youtube Podcast: <a href='https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLjUC6ASFJ_xyHn2bRhoAHx1vXirR3Im9Y&amp;si=uzcDK0cvst5MvjiW'>https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLjUC6ASFJ_xyHn2bRhoAHx1vXirR3Im9Y&amp;si=uzcDK0cvst5MvjiW</a></li><li>Podcasting 2.0 <a href='https://podcastindex.org/podcast/6790883'>https://podcastindex.org/podcast/6790883</a></li><li>Spotify <a href='https://open.spotify.com/show/3KQkzgWKYITlxEcT1BGEd4?si=f22d96f479ff4bd1'>https://open.spotify.com/show/3KQkzgWKYITlxEcT1BGEd4?si=f22d96f479ff4bd1</a></li><li>Apple Podcast <a href='https://podcasts.apple.com/nl/podcast/its-just-a-model/id1730230748?l=en-GB'>https://podcasts.apple.com/nl/podcast/its-just-a-model/id1730230748?l=en-GB</a></li><li>RSS <a href='https://feeds.buzzsprout.com/2300082.rss'>https://feeds.buzzsprout.com/2300082.rss</a></li></ul>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>It&apos;s Just a Model is a biweekly conversation with Ron and Peet on the interstitium of innovation, tech, design, philosophy and behaviour.</b></p><p>Your hosts are Ron Kersic and Peet Sneekes.</p><p>In this podcast, we’ll be talking about the good, the bad and the interesting, all wrapped into an informal, unscripted conversation.</p><p><b>CHAPTERS</b></p><ul><li>00:00 — Intro</li><li>01:50 — Twiddling Knobs</li><li>08:20 — Information Wants To Be Free</li><li>15:20 — Technology &amp; Complexity</li><li>24:20 — What&apos;s My Job Again?</li><li>36:00 — Software Brain</li><li>48:30 — It&apos;s the Mindset, Stupid</li></ul><p><b>LINKS</b></p><ul><li>Enshittification — https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enshittification</li><li>Teux Deux — https://teuxdeux.com/</li><li>Twiddling — https://pluralistic.net/2023/02/19/twiddler/</li><li>Kafe Belgie — https://www.kafebelgie.nl/</li><li>WOO — https://www.rijksoverheid.nl/onderwerpen/wet-open-overheid-woo</li><li>Active Apple Devices — https://appleinsider.com/articles/24/02/01/apple-has-one-active-device-per-four-people-on-the-planet</li><li>Everything is Amazing — https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YxgK2OjHA2Q</li><li>What&apos;s My Name Again — https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEhYp73X29A</li><li>Reshuffle Book — https://www.amazon.com/Reshuffle-wins-restacks-knowledge-economy-ebook/dp/B0DTKW6NQV</li><li>Hans Klok — https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hans_Klok</li><li>Matt Rife — https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matt_Rife</li><li>Jimmy Carr — https://www.jimmycarr.com/</li><li>The Law of Conservation of Attractive Profits — https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/15-law-conservation-attractive-profits-peter-knol-nxsse/</li><li>Software Brain — https://www.theverge.com/podcast/917029/software-brain-ai-backlash-databases-automation</li><li>Programming as Theory Building — https://gwern.net/doc/cs/algorithm/1985-naur.pdf</li></ul><p><b>ABOUT US</b></p><ul><li>It&apos;s Just A Model podcast: <a href='https://itsjustamodel.com/'>https://itsjustamodel.com</a></li><li>Ron Kersic -  <a href='https://www.linkedin.com/in/ronkersic/'> https://www.linkedin.com/in/ronkersic// ronkersic  </a></li><li>Peet Sneekes  - <a href='https://peetsneekes.com/'>https://peetsneekes.com</a></li></ul><p><b>SUBSCRIBE</b></p><ul><li> Youtube Podcast: <a href='https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLjUC6ASFJ_xyHn2bRhoAHx1vXirR3Im9Y&amp;si=uzcDK0cvst5MvjiW'>https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLjUC6ASFJ_xyHn2bRhoAHx1vXirR3Im9Y&amp;si=uzcDK0cvst5MvjiW</a></li><li>Podcasting 2.0 <a href='https://podcastindex.org/podcast/6790883'>https://podcastindex.org/podcast/6790883</a></li><li>Spotify <a href='https://open.spotify.com/show/3KQkzgWKYITlxEcT1BGEd4?si=f22d96f479ff4bd1'>https://open.spotify.com/show/3KQkzgWKYITlxEcT1BGEd4?si=f22d96f479ff4bd1</a></li><li>Apple Podcast <a href='https://podcasts.apple.com/nl/podcast/its-just-a-model/id1730230748?l=en-GB'>https://podcasts.apple.com/nl/podcast/its-just-a-model/id1730230748?l=en-GB</a></li><li>RSS <a href='https://feeds.buzzsprout.com/2300082.rss'>https://feeds.buzzsprout.com/2300082.rss</a></li></ul>]]></content:encoded>
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    <itunes:title>013 - It&#39;s Just A Model - Church of Mode</itunes:title>
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    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[It's Just a Model is a biweekly conversation with Ron and Peet on the interstitium of innovation, tech, design, philosophy and behaviour. Your hosts are Ron Kersic and Peet Sneekes. In this podcast, we’ll be talking about the good, the bad and the interesting, all wrapped into an informal, unscripted conversation. CHAPTERS 00:00 — Intro01:20 — The Bitter Lessons14:00 — "The December Event" in Coding28:35 — Dominant Designs33:30 — Actors and AI40:14 — What is Old is New Again45:45 — Wander/Won...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p><b>It&apos;s Just a Model is a biweekly conversation with Ron and Peet on the interstitium of innovation, tech, design, philosophy and behaviour.</b></p><p>Your hosts are Ron Kersic and Peet Sneekes.</p><p>In this podcast, we’ll be talking about the good, the bad and the interesting, all wrapped into an informal, unscripted conversation.</p><p><b>CHAPTERS</b></p><ul><li>00:00 — Intro</li><li>01:20 — The Bitter Lessons</li><li>14:00 — &quot;The December Event&quot; in Coding</li><li>28:35 — Dominant Designs</li><li>33:30 — Actors and AI</li><li>40:14 — What is Old is New Again</li><li>45:45 — Wander/Wonder Machines</li><li>52:25 — Fashion!</li></ul><p><b>LINKS</b></p><ul><li>The Bitter Lesson — http://www.incompleteideas.net/IncIdeas/BitterLesson.html</li><li>Deep Blue — https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_Blue_(chess_computer)</li><li>Meta classes — https://www.cs.sjsu.edu/~pearce/modules/lectures/uml2/details/index2.htm</li><li>Roadside Picnic — https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roadside_Picnic</li><li>Project Glasswing — https://www.anthropic.com/glasswing</li><li>Zero-Day Vulnerability — https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zero-day_vulnerability</li><li>John McAfee — https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_McAfee</li><li>Dominant Design — https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dominant_design</li><li>FAFO — https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJf6iFA2xCY</li><li>MemPalace — https://millaj.com/mempalace</li><li>Ben Affleck&apos;s InterPositive — https://www.inc.com/leila-sheridan/ben-affleck-just-sold-his-stealth-ai-startup-to-netflix-for-600-million-heres-what-it-actually-does/91315812</li><li>The Accountant — https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Accountant_(2016_film)</li><li>Zettelkasten — https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zettelkasten</li><li>Agents &amp; Wiki — https://gist.github.com/karpathy/442a6bf555914893e9891c11519de94f</li><li>RAG — https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Retrieval-augmented_generation</li><li>Golfen Gate Claude — https://www.anthropic.com/news/golden-gate-claude</li><li>Wrong on the Internet — https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php/386:_Duty_Calls</li><li>Lidewij Edelkoort — https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lidewij_Edelkoort</li><li>Devils Wears Prads — https://weareactors.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/08/The-Devil-Wears-Prada-Monologue.pdf</li><li>An Engine, Not a Camera — https://mitpress.mit.edu/9780262633673/an-engine-not-a-camera/</li><li>Ana Andjelic — https://www.linkedin.com/in/anaandjelic/</li></ul><p><b>ABOUT US</b></p><ul><li>It&apos;s Just A Model podcast: <a href='https://itsjustamodel.com/'>https://itsjustamodel.com</a></li><li>Ron Kersic -  <a href='https://www.linkedin.com/in/ronkersic/'> https://www.linkedin.com/in/ronkersic// ronkersic  </a></li><li>Peet Sneekes  - <a href='https://peetsneekes.com/'>https://peetsneekes.com</a></li></ul><p><b>SUBSCRIBE</b></p><ul><li> Youtube Podcast: <a href='https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLjUC6ASFJ_xyHn2bRhoAHx1vXirR3Im9Y&amp;si=uzcDK0cvst5MvjiW'>https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLjUC6ASFJ_xyHn2bRhoAHx1vXirR3Im9Y&amp;si=uzcDK0cvst5MvjiW</a></li><li>Podcasting 2.0 <a href='https://podcastindex.org/podcast/6790883'>https://podcastindex.org/podcast/6790883</a></li><li>Spotify <a href='https://open.spotify.com/show/3KQkzgWKYITlxEcT1BGEd4?si=f22d96f479ff4bd1'>https://open.spotify.com/show/3KQkzgWKYITlxEcT1BGEd4?si=f22d96f479ff4bd1</a></li><li>Apple Podcast <a href='https://podcasts.apple.com/nl/podcast/its-just-a-model/id1730230748?l=en-GB'>https://podcasts.apple.com/nl/podcast/its-just-a-model/id1730230748?l=en-GB</a></li><li>RSS <a href='https://feeds.buzzsprout.com/2300082.rss'>https://feeds.buzzsprout.com/2300082.rss</a></li></ul>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>It&apos;s Just a Model is a biweekly conversation with Ron and Peet on the interstitium of innovation, tech, design, philosophy and behaviour.</b></p><p>Your hosts are Ron Kersic and Peet Sneekes.</p><p>In this podcast, we’ll be talking about the good, the bad and the interesting, all wrapped into an informal, unscripted conversation.</p><p><b>CHAPTERS</b></p><ul><li>00:00 — Intro</li><li>01:20 — The Bitter Lessons</li><li>14:00 — &quot;The December Event&quot; in Coding</li><li>28:35 — Dominant Designs</li><li>33:30 — Actors and AI</li><li>40:14 — What is Old is New Again</li><li>45:45 — Wander/Wonder Machines</li><li>52:25 — Fashion!</li></ul><p><b>LINKS</b></p><ul><li>The Bitter Lesson — http://www.incompleteideas.net/IncIdeas/BitterLesson.html</li><li>Deep Blue — https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_Blue_(chess_computer)</li><li>Meta classes — https://www.cs.sjsu.edu/~pearce/modules/lectures/uml2/details/index2.htm</li><li>Roadside Picnic — https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roadside_Picnic</li><li>Project Glasswing — https://www.anthropic.com/glasswing</li><li>Zero-Day Vulnerability — https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zero-day_vulnerability</li><li>John McAfee — https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_McAfee</li><li>Dominant Design — https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dominant_design</li><li>FAFO — https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJf6iFA2xCY</li><li>MemPalace — https://millaj.com/mempalace</li><li>Ben Affleck&apos;s InterPositive — https://www.inc.com/leila-sheridan/ben-affleck-just-sold-his-stealth-ai-startup-to-netflix-for-600-million-heres-what-it-actually-does/91315812</li><li>The Accountant — https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Accountant_(2016_film)</li><li>Zettelkasten — https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zettelkasten</li><li>Agents &amp; Wiki — https://gist.github.com/karpathy/442a6bf555914893e9891c11519de94f</li><li>RAG — https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Retrieval-augmented_generation</li><li>Golfen Gate Claude — https://www.anthropic.com/news/golden-gate-claude</li><li>Wrong on the Internet — https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php/386:_Duty_Calls</li><li>Lidewij Edelkoort — https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lidewij_Edelkoort</li><li>Devils Wears Prads — https://weareactors.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/08/The-Devil-Wears-Prada-Monologue.pdf</li><li>An Engine, Not a Camera — https://mitpress.mit.edu/9780262633673/an-engine-not-a-camera/</li><li>Ana Andjelic — https://www.linkedin.com/in/anaandjelic/</li></ul><p><b>ABOUT US</b></p><ul><li>It&apos;s Just A Model podcast: <a href='https://itsjustamodel.com/'>https://itsjustamodel.com</a></li><li>Ron Kersic -  <a href='https://www.linkedin.com/in/ronkersic/'> https://www.linkedin.com/in/ronkersic// ronkersic  </a></li><li>Peet Sneekes  - <a href='https://peetsneekes.com/'>https://peetsneekes.com</a></li></ul><p><b>SUBSCRIBE</b></p><ul><li> Youtube Podcast: <a href='https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLjUC6ASFJ_xyHn2bRhoAHx1vXirR3Im9Y&amp;si=uzcDK0cvst5MvjiW'>https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLjUC6ASFJ_xyHn2bRhoAHx1vXirR3Im9Y&amp;si=uzcDK0cvst5MvjiW</a></li><li>Podcasting 2.0 <a href='https://podcastindex.org/podcast/6790883'>https://podcastindex.org/podcast/6790883</a></li><li>Spotify <a href='https://open.spotify.com/show/3KQkzgWKYITlxEcT1BGEd4?si=f22d96f479ff4bd1'>https://open.spotify.com/show/3KQkzgWKYITlxEcT1BGEd4?si=f22d96f479ff4bd1</a></li><li>Apple Podcast <a href='https://podcasts.apple.com/nl/podcast/its-just-a-model/id1730230748?l=en-GB'>https://podcasts.apple.com/nl/podcast/its-just-a-model/id1730230748?l=en-GB</a></li><li>RSS <a href='https://feeds.buzzsprout.com/2300082.rss'>https://feeds.buzzsprout.com/2300082.rss</a></li></ul>]]></content:encoded>
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    <title>012 - It&#39;s Just A Model - Unf_ck</title>
    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[It's Just a Model is a biweekly conversation with Ron and Peet on the interstitium of innovation, tech, design, philosophy and behaviour. Your hosts are Ron Kersic and Peet Sneekes. In this podcast, we’ll be talking about the good, the bad and the interesting, all wrapped into an informal, unscripted conversation. CHAPTERS 00:00 — Intro04:25 — Destructive Design18:20 — "Citizens"34::32 — Aesthetics39:00 — Creative Destruction  40:48 — AI Manifestations45:05 — *Our* Skill Limitations&nbsp...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p><b>It&apos;s Just a Model is a biweekly conversation with Ron and Peet on the interstitium of innovation, tech, design, philosophy and behaviour.</b></p><p>Your hosts are Ron Kersic and Peet Sneekes.</p><p>In this podcast, we’ll be talking about the good, the bad and the interesting, all wrapped into an informal, unscripted conversation.</p><p><b>CHAPTERS</b></p><ul><li>00:00 — Intro</li><li>04:25 — Destructive Design</li><li>18:20 — &quot;Citizens&quot;</li><li>34::32 — Aesthetics</li><li>39:00 — Creative Destruction  </li><li>40:48 — AI Manifestations</li><li>45:05 — *Our* Skill Limitations </li></ul><p><b>LINKS</b></p><ul><li>Frank Gehry — https://www.architecturaldigest.com/story/legendary-architect-frank-gehry-has-died-at-the-age-of-96</li><li>Shrek — https://www.ebritic.com/shrek-name-meaning/</li><li>Architectural Innovation — https://www.jstor.org/stable/2393549</li><li>Productivity Paradox — https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Productivity_paradox</li><li>Test-Driven Development — https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Test-driven_development</li><li>Domain-Driven Design — https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domain-driven_design</li><li>Seeing Like a Desifn — https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seeing_Like_a_State</li><li>The Jagged AI Frontier — https://mitsloan.mit.edu/ideas-made-to-matter/working-definitions/what-is-jagged-ai-frontier</li><li>Henry Rollins — https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Rollins</li><li>Henk Haaima — https://www.henkhaaima.nl/</li><li>Andrej Karpathy Interview — https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwSVtQ7dziU</li><li>AI Report Podcast — https://open.spotify.com/show/5Hpc8qDcawOEf4ulCouPau</li></ul><p><b>ABOUT US</b></p><ul><li>It&apos;s Just A Model podcast: <a href='https://itsjustamodel.com/'>https://itsjustamodel.com</a></li><li>Ron Kersic -  <a href='https://www.linkedin.com/in/ronkersic/'> https://www.linkedin.com/in/ronkersic// ronkersic  </a></li><li>Peet Sneekes  - <a href='https://peetsneekes.com/'>https://peetsneekes.com</a></li></ul><p><b>SUBSCRIBE</b></p><ul><li> Youtube Podcast: <a href='https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLjUC6ASFJ_xyHn2bRhoAHx1vXirR3Im9Y&amp;si=uzcDK0cvst5MvjiW'>https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLjUC6ASFJ_xyHn2bRhoAHx1vXirR3Im9Y&amp;si=uzcDK0cvst5MvjiW</a></li><li>Podcasting 2.0 <a href='https://podcastindex.org/podcast/6790883'>https://podcastindex.org/podcast/6790883</a></li><li>Spotify <a href='https://open.spotify.com/show/3KQkzgWKYITlxEcT1BGEd4?si=f22d96f479ff4bd1'>https://open.spotify.com/show/3KQkzgWKYITlxEcT1BGEd4?si=f22d96f479ff4bd1</a></li><li>Apple Podcast <a href='https://podcasts.apple.com/nl/podcast/its-just-a-model/id1730230748?l=en-GB'>https://podcasts.apple.com/nl/podcast/its-just-a-model/id1730230748?l=en-GB</a></li><li>RSS <a href='https://feeds.buzzsprout.com/2300082.rss'>https://feeds.buzzsprout.com/2300082.rss</a></li></ul>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>It&apos;s Just a Model is a biweekly conversation with Ron and Peet on the interstitium of innovation, tech, design, philosophy and behaviour.</b></p><p>Your hosts are Ron Kersic and Peet Sneekes.</p><p>In this podcast, we’ll be talking about the good, the bad and the interesting, all wrapped into an informal, unscripted conversation.</p><p><b>CHAPTERS</b></p><ul><li>00:00 — Intro</li><li>04:25 — Destructive Design</li><li>18:20 — &quot;Citizens&quot;</li><li>34::32 — Aesthetics</li><li>39:00 — Creative Destruction  </li><li>40:48 — AI Manifestations</li><li>45:05 — *Our* Skill Limitations </li></ul><p><b>LINKS</b></p><ul><li>Frank Gehry — https://www.architecturaldigest.com/story/legendary-architect-frank-gehry-has-died-at-the-age-of-96</li><li>Shrek — https://www.ebritic.com/shrek-name-meaning/</li><li>Architectural Innovation — https://www.jstor.org/stable/2393549</li><li>Productivity Paradox — https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Productivity_paradox</li><li>Test-Driven Development — https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Test-driven_development</li><li>Domain-Driven Design — https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domain-driven_design</li><li>Seeing Like a Desifn — https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seeing_Like_a_State</li><li>The Jagged AI Frontier — https://mitsloan.mit.edu/ideas-made-to-matter/working-definitions/what-is-jagged-ai-frontier</li><li>Henry Rollins — https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Rollins</li><li>Henk Haaima — https://www.henkhaaima.nl/</li><li>Andrej Karpathy Interview — https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwSVtQ7dziU</li><li>AI Report Podcast — https://open.spotify.com/show/5Hpc8qDcawOEf4ulCouPau</li></ul><p><b>ABOUT US</b></p><ul><li>It&apos;s Just A Model podcast: <a href='https://itsjustamodel.com/'>https://itsjustamodel.com</a></li><li>Ron Kersic -  <a href='https://www.linkedin.com/in/ronkersic/'> https://www.linkedin.com/in/ronkersic// ronkersic  </a></li><li>Peet Sneekes  - <a href='https://peetsneekes.com/'>https://peetsneekes.com</a></li></ul><p><b>SUBSCRIBE</b></p><ul><li> Youtube Podcast: <a href='https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLjUC6ASFJ_xyHn2bRhoAHx1vXirR3Im9Y&amp;si=uzcDK0cvst5MvjiW'>https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLjUC6ASFJ_xyHn2bRhoAHx1vXirR3Im9Y&amp;si=uzcDK0cvst5MvjiW</a></li><li>Podcasting 2.0 <a href='https://podcastindex.org/podcast/6790883'>https://podcastindex.org/podcast/6790883</a></li><li>Spotify <a href='https://open.spotify.com/show/3KQkzgWKYITlxEcT1BGEd4?si=f22d96f479ff4bd1'>https://open.spotify.com/show/3KQkzgWKYITlxEcT1BGEd4?si=f22d96f479ff4bd1</a></li><li>Apple Podcast <a href='https://podcasts.apple.com/nl/podcast/its-just-a-model/id1730230748?l=en-GB'>https://podcasts.apple.com/nl/podcast/its-just-a-model/id1730230748?l=en-GB</a></li><li>RSS <a href='https://feeds.buzzsprout.com/2300082.rss'>https://feeds.buzzsprout.com/2300082.rss</a></li></ul>]]></content:encoded>
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    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[It's Just a Model is a biweekly conversation with Ron and Peet on the interstitium between innovation, tech, design, and our human behaviour. Your hosts are Ron Kersic and Peet Sneekes. In this podcast, we’ll be talking about the good, the bad and the interesting, all wrapped into an informal, unscripted conversation. CHAPTERS 00:00 — Intro01:21 — The  Predictability Myth07:28 — Against the Excel-ification of Everything14:55 — 10 Incarnations of Yourself18:54 — Talking Dirty29:45 — Surpr...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p><b>It&apos;s Just a Model is a biweekly conversation with Ron and Peet on the interstitium between innovation, tech, design, and our human behaviour.</b></p><p>Your hosts are Ron Kersic and Peet Sneekes.</p><p>In this podcast, we’ll be talking about the good, the bad and the interesting, all wrapped into an informal, unscripted conversation.</p><p><b>CHAPTERS</b></p><ul><li>00:00 — Intro</li><li>01:21 — The  Predictability Myth</li><li>07:28 — Against the Excel-ification of Everything</li><li>14:55 — 10 Incarnations of Yourself</li><li>18:54 — Talking Dirty</li><li>29:45 — Surprise Machines</li><li>37:50 — World Models</li><li>43;37 — The Ultimate Editor</li><li>49:20 — AI Manifestation </li><li>56:45 — DIY All the Things</li><li>1:09:15 — The Shape of Innovation</li></ul><p><b>LINKS</b></p><ul><li><a href='https://thevoroscope.com/2017/02/24/the-futures-cone-use-and-history/'>The Futures Cone</a></li><li><a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abductive_reasoning'>Abductive reasoning</a></li><li><a href='https://www.pangram.com/'>Pangram AI Detector</a></li><li><a href='https://plotprose.com/talk-dirty-to-me-claude-workshop/'>Talk Dirty to Me... Claude!</a></li><li><a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ingress_(video_game)'>Ingress (video game)</a></li><li><a href='https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/chatgpt-cracks-unsolved-math-conjecture/gm-GMF4E8C7B0'>AI generates first original proof for open conjecture</a></li><li><a href='https://lex.page/'>Lex</a></li><li><a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_for_Anything'>A for Anything</a></li><li><a href='https://lasuite.numerique.gouv.fr/en'>La Suite Numerique</a></li><li><a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Markdown'>Markdown history</a></li><li><a href='https://ia.net/writer'>iA Writer</a></li><li><a href='https://www.minix3.org/doc/'>Minix</a></li></ul><p><b>ABOUT US</b></p><ul><li>It&apos;s Just A Model podcast: <a href='https://itsjustamodel.com/'>https://itsjustamodel.com</a></li><li>Ron Kersic -  <a href='https://www.linkedin.com/in/ronkersic/'> https://www.linkedin.com/in/ronkersic// ronkersic  </a></li><li>Peet Sneekes  - <a href='https://peetsneekes.com/'>https://peetsneekes.com</a></li></ul><p><b>SUBSCRIBE</b></p><ul><li> Youtube Podcast: <a href='https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLjUC6ASFJ_xyHn2bRhoAHx1vXirR3Im9Y&amp;si=uzcDK0cvst5MvjiW'>https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLjUC6ASFJ_xyHn2bRhoAHx1vXirR3Im9Y&amp;si=uzcDK0cvst5MvjiW</a></li><li>Podcasting 2.0 <a href='https://podcastindex.org/podcast/6790883'>https://podcastindex.org/podcast/6790883</a></li><li>Spotify <a href='https://open.spotify.com/show/3KQkzgWKYITlxEcT1BGEd4?si=f22d96f479ff4bd1'>https://open.spotify.com/show/3KQkzgWKYITlxEcT1BGEd4?si=f22d96f479ff4bd1</a></li><li>Apple Podcast <a href='https://podcasts.apple.com/nl/podcast/its-just-a-model/id1730230748?l=en-GB'>https://podcasts.apple.com/nl/podcast/its-just-a-model/id1730230748?l=en-GB</a></li><li>RSS <a href='https://feeds.buzzsprout.com/2300082.rss'>https://feeds.buzzsprout.com/2300082.rss</a></li></ul>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>It&apos;s Just a Model is a biweekly conversation with Ron and Peet on the interstitium between innovation, tech, design, and our human behaviour.</b></p><p>Your hosts are Ron Kersic and Peet Sneekes.</p><p>In this podcast, we’ll be talking about the good, the bad and the interesting, all wrapped into an informal, unscripted conversation.</p><p><b>CHAPTERS</b></p><ul><li>00:00 — Intro</li><li>01:21 — The  Predictability Myth</li><li>07:28 — Against the Excel-ification of Everything</li><li>14:55 — 10 Incarnations of Yourself</li><li>18:54 — Talking Dirty</li><li>29:45 — Surprise Machines</li><li>37:50 — World Models</li><li>43;37 — The Ultimate Editor</li><li>49:20 — AI Manifestation </li><li>56:45 — DIY All the Things</li><li>1:09:15 — The Shape of Innovation</li></ul><p><b>LINKS</b></p><ul><li><a href='https://thevoroscope.com/2017/02/24/the-futures-cone-use-and-history/'>The Futures Cone</a></li><li><a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abductive_reasoning'>Abductive reasoning</a></li><li><a href='https://www.pangram.com/'>Pangram AI Detector</a></li><li><a href='https://plotprose.com/talk-dirty-to-me-claude-workshop/'>Talk Dirty to Me... Claude!</a></li><li><a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ingress_(video_game)'>Ingress (video game)</a></li><li><a href='https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/chatgpt-cracks-unsolved-math-conjecture/gm-GMF4E8C7B0'>AI generates first original proof for open conjecture</a></li><li><a href='https://lex.page/'>Lex</a></li><li><a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_for_Anything'>A for Anything</a></li><li><a href='https://lasuite.numerique.gouv.fr/en'>La Suite Numerique</a></li><li><a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Markdown'>Markdown history</a></li><li><a href='https://ia.net/writer'>iA Writer</a></li><li><a href='https://www.minix3.org/doc/'>Minix</a></li></ul><p><b>ABOUT US</b></p><ul><li>It&apos;s Just A Model podcast: <a href='https://itsjustamodel.com/'>https://itsjustamodel.com</a></li><li>Ron Kersic -  <a href='https://www.linkedin.com/in/ronkersic/'> https://www.linkedin.com/in/ronkersic// ronkersic  </a></li><li>Peet Sneekes  - <a href='https://peetsneekes.com/'>https://peetsneekes.com</a></li></ul><p><b>SUBSCRIBE</b></p><ul><li> Youtube Podcast: <a href='https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLjUC6ASFJ_xyHn2bRhoAHx1vXirR3Im9Y&amp;si=uzcDK0cvst5MvjiW'>https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLjUC6ASFJ_xyHn2bRhoAHx1vXirR3Im9Y&amp;si=uzcDK0cvst5MvjiW</a></li><li>Podcasting 2.0 <a href='https://podcastindex.org/podcast/6790883'>https://podcastindex.org/podcast/6790883</a></li><li>Spotify <a href='https://open.spotify.com/show/3KQkzgWKYITlxEcT1BGEd4?si=f22d96f479ff4bd1'>https://open.spotify.com/show/3KQkzgWKYITlxEcT1BGEd4?si=f22d96f479ff4bd1</a></li><li>Apple Podcast <a href='https://podcasts.apple.com/nl/podcast/its-just-a-model/id1730230748?l=en-GB'>https://podcasts.apple.com/nl/podcast/its-just-a-model/id1730230748?l=en-GB</a></li><li>RSS <a href='https://feeds.buzzsprout.com/2300082.rss'>https://feeds.buzzsprout.com/2300082.rss</a></li></ul>]]></content:encoded>
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    <itunes:title>010 - It&#39;s Just A Model - The Milieu</itunes:title>
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    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[It's Just a Model is a biweekly conversation with Ron and Peet on the interstitium between innovation, tech, design, and our human behaviour. Your hosts are Ron Kersic, and Peet Sneekes. In this podcast we’ll be talking about the good, the bad and the interesting, all wrapped into an informal, unscripted conversation. If you experience value from this podcast—be it information, entertainment, or a good old disagreement—then you can return said value through your time, talent, and treasure. Se...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p><b>It&apos;s Just a Model is a biweekly conversation with Ron and Peet on the interstitium between innovation, tech, design, and our human behaviour.</b></p><p>Your hosts are Ron Kersic, and Peet Sneekes.</p><p>In this podcast we’ll be talking about the good, the bad and the interesting, all wrapped into an informal, unscripted conversation.</p><p>If you experience value from this podcast—be it information, entertainment, or a good old disagreement—then you can return said value through your time, talent, and treasure. See our website and the show notes for more details.</p><p><b>CHAPTERS</b></p><ul><li>00:00 — Intro</li><li>01:19 — Tech is People</li><li>03:10 — Tech as a cultural phenomenon </li><li>16:50 — The Beginning of the End</li><li>23:30 — AI and what&apos;s next for design</li><li>30:37 — Bring back messiness</li><li>39:12 — Design in service of Scenius</li><li>46:39 — Future Jobs 🤷🏻‍♂️</li><li>49: 25 — Confusion as a design strategy</li><li>56:50 — Complexity is given</li><li>1:01:00 — Outro</li></ul><p><b>LINKS</b></p><ul><li>Design in Tech — https://designintech.report/</li><li>Watch Brands and misbehaving CEO - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9wNPi8YkZ4&amp;t=1247s</li><li>Watch brands .. who owns who: https://wshop360.com/cdn/shop/articles/img_4289_1200x1200.jpg?v=1580400847 </li><li>Adaptive Path — https://medium.com/@adaptivepath</li><li>Snow White design language — https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snow_White_design_language</li><li>Blanding — https://www.fastcompany.com/90276496/blanding-the-hottest-branding-trend-of-the-year-is-also-the-worst</li><li>Claude 3&apos; system prompt — https://twitter.com/amandaaskell/status/1765207842993434880</li><li>Technological Revolutions and Financial Capital — https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Technological_Revolutions_and_Financial_Capital</li><li>Scenius — https://www.wired.com/2008/06/scenius-or-comm/</li><li>On Joy Division — https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yy5nKqLpTOE</li><li>Happy Accidents — https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ht9LMYivBnM</li><li>Malthusianism — https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malthusianism</li><li>Seeing Like a State — https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seeing_Like_a_State</li></ul><p><b>ABOUT US</b></p><ul><li>It&apos;s Just A Model podcast: <a href='https://itsjustamodel.com/'>https://itsjustamodel.com</a></li><li>Ron Kersic -  <a href='https://www.linkedin.com/in/ronkersic/'> https://www.linkedin.com/in/ronkersic// ronkersic  </a></li><li>Peet Sneekes  - <a href='https://peetsneekes.com/'>https://peetsneekes.com</a></li></ul><p><b>SUBSCRIBE</b></p><ul><li> Youtube Podcast: <a href='https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLjUC6ASFJ_xyHn2bRhoAHx1vXirR3Im9Y&amp;si=uzcDK0cvst5MvjiW'>https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLjUC6ASFJ_xyHn2bRhoAHx1vXirR3Im9Y&amp;si=uzcDK0cvst5MvjiW</a></li><li>Podcasting 2.0 <a href='https://podcastindex.org/podcast/6790883'>https://podcastindex.org/podcast/6790883</a></li><li>Spotify <a href='https://open.spotify.com/show/3KQkzgWKYITlxEcT1BGEd4?si=f22d96f479ff4bd1'>https://open.spotify.com/show/3KQkzgWKYITlxEcT1BGEd4?si=f22d96f479ff4bd1</a></li><li>Apple Podcast <a href='https://podcasts.apple.com/nl/podcast/its-just-a-model/id1730230748?l=en-GB'>https://podcasts.apple.com/nl/podcast/its-just-a-model/id1730230748?l=en-GB</a></li><li>RSS <a href='https://feeds.buzzsprout.com/2300082.rss'>https://feeds.buzzsprout.com/2300082.rss</a></li></ul>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>It&apos;s Just a Model is a biweekly conversation with Ron and Peet on the interstitium between innovation, tech, design, and our human behaviour.</b></p><p>Your hosts are Ron Kersic, and Peet Sneekes.</p><p>In this podcast we’ll be talking about the good, the bad and the interesting, all wrapped into an informal, unscripted conversation.</p><p>If you experience value from this podcast—be it information, entertainment, or a good old disagreement—then you can return said value through your time, talent, and treasure. See our website and the show notes for more details.</p><p><b>CHAPTERS</b></p><ul><li>00:00 — Intro</li><li>01:19 — Tech is People</li><li>03:10 — Tech as a cultural phenomenon </li><li>16:50 — The Beginning of the End</li><li>23:30 — AI and what&apos;s next for design</li><li>30:37 — Bring back messiness</li><li>39:12 — Design in service of Scenius</li><li>46:39 — Future Jobs 🤷🏻‍♂️</li><li>49: 25 — Confusion as a design strategy</li><li>56:50 — Complexity is given</li><li>1:01:00 — Outro</li></ul><p><b>LINKS</b></p><ul><li>Design in Tech — https://designintech.report/</li><li>Watch Brands and misbehaving CEO - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9wNPi8YkZ4&amp;t=1247s</li><li>Watch brands .. who owns who: https://wshop360.com/cdn/shop/articles/img_4289_1200x1200.jpg?v=1580400847 </li><li>Adaptive Path — https://medium.com/@adaptivepath</li><li>Snow White design language — https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snow_White_design_language</li><li>Blanding — https://www.fastcompany.com/90276496/blanding-the-hottest-branding-trend-of-the-year-is-also-the-worst</li><li>Claude 3&apos; system prompt — https://twitter.com/amandaaskell/status/1765207842993434880</li><li>Technological Revolutions and Financial Capital — https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Technological_Revolutions_and_Financial_Capital</li><li>Scenius — https://www.wired.com/2008/06/scenius-or-comm/</li><li>On Joy Division — https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yy5nKqLpTOE</li><li>Happy Accidents — https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ht9LMYivBnM</li><li>Malthusianism — https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malthusianism</li><li>Seeing Like a State — https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seeing_Like_a_State</li></ul><p><b>ABOUT US</b></p><ul><li>It&apos;s Just A Model podcast: <a href='https://itsjustamodel.com/'>https://itsjustamodel.com</a></li><li>Ron Kersic -  <a href='https://www.linkedin.com/in/ronkersic/'> https://www.linkedin.com/in/ronkersic// ronkersic  </a></li><li>Peet Sneekes  - <a href='https://peetsneekes.com/'>https://peetsneekes.com</a></li></ul><p><b>SUBSCRIBE</b></p><ul><li> Youtube Podcast: <a href='https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLjUC6ASFJ_xyHn2bRhoAHx1vXirR3Im9Y&amp;si=uzcDK0cvst5MvjiW'>https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLjUC6ASFJ_xyHn2bRhoAHx1vXirR3Im9Y&amp;si=uzcDK0cvst5MvjiW</a></li><li>Podcasting 2.0 <a href='https://podcastindex.org/podcast/6790883'>https://podcastindex.org/podcast/6790883</a></li><li>Spotify <a href='https://open.spotify.com/show/3KQkzgWKYITlxEcT1BGEd4?si=f22d96f479ff4bd1'>https://open.spotify.com/show/3KQkzgWKYITlxEcT1BGEd4?si=f22d96f479ff4bd1</a></li><li>Apple Podcast <a href='https://podcasts.apple.com/nl/podcast/its-just-a-model/id1730230748?l=en-GB'>https://podcasts.apple.com/nl/podcast/its-just-a-model/id1730230748?l=en-GB</a></li><li>RSS <a href='https://feeds.buzzsprout.com/2300082.rss'>https://feeds.buzzsprout.com/2300082.rss</a></li></ul>]]></content:encoded>
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    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[It's Just a Model is a biweekly conversation with Ron and Peet on the interstitium between innovation, tech, design, and our human behaviour. Your hosts are Ron Kersic, and Peet Sneekes. In this podcast we’ll be talking about the good, the bad and the interesting, all wrapped into an informal, unscripted conversation. If you experience value from this podcast—be it information, entertainment, or a good old disagreement—then you can return said value through your time, talent, and treasure. Se...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p><b>It&apos;s Just a Model is a biweekly conversation with Ron and Peet on the interstitium between innovation, tech, design, and our human behaviour.</b></p><p>Your hosts are Ron Kersic, and Peet Sneekes.</p><p>In this podcast we’ll be talking about the good, the bad and the interesting, all wrapped into an informal, unscripted conversation.</p><p>If you experience value from this podcast—be it information, entertainment, or a good old disagreement—then you can return said value through your time, talent, and treasure. See our website and the show notes for more details.</p><p><b>CHAPTERS</b></p><ul><li>00:00 — Intro</li><li>02:00 — The conditions of Making</li><li>11:47 — A tinfoil theory of the open office</li><li>17:25 — The Gold Standard of Working</li><li>20:30 — &quot;Users&quot;, &quot;Citizens&quot;, ...</li><li>28:28 — &quot;Undo&quot; in Making</li><li>30:35 — Of Peace, War, and Wonder</li><li>41:45 — The Innovators&apos; AI(?)</li><li>50:20 — Selling certainty (where there&apos;s none)</li><li>54: 40 — Designing for the Messy Whole</li><li>1:01:50 — Wrapping up</li></ul><p><b>LINKS</b></p><ul><li>The Apartment —<a href=' https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0053604/'> https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0053604/</a></li><li>Herman Miller Action Office — <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Action_Office'>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Action_Office</a></li><li>Casey Neistat — <a href='https://youtu.be/Aj6-U7GVDt8?si=VBRDf7YEO2sMQYav&amp;t=128'>https://youtu.be/Aj6-U7GVDt8?si=VBRDf7YEO2sMQYav&amp;t=128</a></li><li>Designing Roles —<a href=' https://position.futuring-architectures.com/position/frame/roles'> https://position.futuring-architectures.com/position/frame/roles</a></li><li>Pace Layering — <a href='https://www.solvingforpattern.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/pace_layering.jpg'>https://www.solvingforpattern.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/pace_layering.jpg</a></li><li>Simon Wardley —<a href=' https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simon_Wardley'> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simon_Wardley</a></li><li>Peace, War, Wonder —<a href=' https://blog.gardeviance.org/2014/04/from-a1-to-a6.html'> https://blog.gardeviance.org/2014/04/from-a1-to-a6.html</a></li><li>More or Less Podcast —<a href=' https://www.youtube.com/@MoreorLessPod'> https://www.youtube.com/@MoreorLessPod</a></li><li>The &quot;Stingray&quot; model — <a href='https://www.boardofinnovation.com/webinars/ai-powered-design-the-stingray-model/'>https://www.boardofinnovation.com/webinars/ai-powered-design-the-stingray-model/</a></li><li>The Double Diamond — <a href='https://www.designcouncil.org.uk/our-resources/the-double-diamond/'>https://www.designcouncil.org.uk/our-resources/the-double-diamond/</a></li><li>Practice with Peet —<a href=' https://www.youtube.com/@practicewithpeet'> https://www.youtube.com/@practicewithpeet</a></li><li>Hot vs Cool  Media —<a href=' https://mcluhan.org/hot-cool-media/'> https://mcluhan.org/hot-cool-media/</a></li></ul><p><b>ABOUT US</b></p><ul><li>It&apos;s Just A Model podcast: <a href='https://itsjustamodel.com/'>https://itsjustamodel.com</a></li><li>Ron Kersic -  <a href='https://www.linkedin.com/in/ronkersic/'> https://www.linkedin.com/in/ronkersic// ronkersic  </a></li><li>Peet Sneekes  - <a href='https://peetsneekes.com/'>https://peetsneekes.com</a></li></ul><p><b>SUBSCRIBE</b></p><ul><li> Youtube Podcast: <a href='https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLjUC6ASFJ_xyHn2bRhoAHx1vXirR3Im9Y&amp;si=uzcDK0cvst5MvjiW'>https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLjUC6ASFJ_xyHn2bRhoAHx1vXirR3Im9Y&amp;si=uzcDK0cvst5MvjiW</a></li><li>Podcasting 2.0 <a href='https://podcastindex.org/podcast/6790883'>https://podcastindex.org/podcast/6790883</a></li><li>Spotify <a href='https://open.spotify.com/show/3KQkzgWKYITlxEcT1BGEd4?si=f22d96f479ff4bd1'>https://open.spotify.com/show/3KQkzgWKYITlxEcT1BGEd4?si=f22d96f479ff4bd1</a></li><li>Apple Podcast <a href='https://podcasts.apple.com/nl/podcast/its-just-a-model/id1730230748?l=en-GB'>https://podcasts.apple.com/nl/podcast/its-just-a-model/id1730230748?l=en-GB</a></li><li>RSS <a href='https://feeds.buzzsprout.com/2300082.rss'>https://feeds.buzzsprout.com/2300082.rss</a></li></ul>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>It&apos;s Just a Model is a biweekly conversation with Ron and Peet on the interstitium between innovation, tech, design, and our human behaviour.</b></p><p>Your hosts are Ron Kersic, and Peet Sneekes.</p><p>In this podcast we’ll be talking about the good, the bad and the interesting, all wrapped into an informal, unscripted conversation.</p><p>If you experience value from this podcast—be it information, entertainment, or a good old disagreement—then you can return said value through your time, talent, and treasure. See our website and the show notes for more details.</p><p><b>CHAPTERS</b></p><ul><li>00:00 — Intro</li><li>02:00 — The conditions of Making</li><li>11:47 — A tinfoil theory of the open office</li><li>17:25 — The Gold Standard of Working</li><li>20:30 — &quot;Users&quot;, &quot;Citizens&quot;, ...</li><li>28:28 — &quot;Undo&quot; in Making</li><li>30:35 — Of Peace, War, and Wonder</li><li>41:45 — The Innovators&apos; AI(?)</li><li>50:20 — Selling certainty (where there&apos;s none)</li><li>54: 40 — Designing for the Messy Whole</li><li>1:01:50 — Wrapping up</li></ul><p><b>LINKS</b></p><ul><li>The Apartment —<a href=' https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0053604/'> https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0053604/</a></li><li>Herman Miller Action Office — <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Action_Office'>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Action_Office</a></li><li>Casey Neistat — <a href='https://youtu.be/Aj6-U7GVDt8?si=VBRDf7YEO2sMQYav&amp;t=128'>https://youtu.be/Aj6-U7GVDt8?si=VBRDf7YEO2sMQYav&amp;t=128</a></li><li>Designing Roles —<a href=' https://position.futuring-architectures.com/position/frame/roles'> https://position.futuring-architectures.com/position/frame/roles</a></li><li>Pace Layering — <a href='https://www.solvingforpattern.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/pace_layering.jpg'>https://www.solvingforpattern.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/pace_layering.jpg</a></li><li>Simon Wardley —<a href=' https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simon_Wardley'> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simon_Wardley</a></li><li>Peace, War, Wonder —<a href=' https://blog.gardeviance.org/2014/04/from-a1-to-a6.html'> https://blog.gardeviance.org/2014/04/from-a1-to-a6.html</a></li><li>More or Less Podcast —<a href=' https://www.youtube.com/@MoreorLessPod'> https://www.youtube.com/@MoreorLessPod</a></li><li>The &quot;Stingray&quot; model — <a href='https://www.boardofinnovation.com/webinars/ai-powered-design-the-stingray-model/'>https://www.boardofinnovation.com/webinars/ai-powered-design-the-stingray-model/</a></li><li>The Double Diamond — <a href='https://www.designcouncil.org.uk/our-resources/the-double-diamond/'>https://www.designcouncil.org.uk/our-resources/the-double-diamond/</a></li><li>Practice with Peet —<a href=' https://www.youtube.com/@practicewithpeet'> https://www.youtube.com/@practicewithpeet</a></li><li>Hot vs Cool  Media —<a href=' https://mcluhan.org/hot-cool-media/'> https://mcluhan.org/hot-cool-media/</a></li></ul><p><b>ABOUT US</b></p><ul><li>It&apos;s Just A Model podcast: <a href='https://itsjustamodel.com/'>https://itsjustamodel.com</a></li><li>Ron Kersic -  <a href='https://www.linkedin.com/in/ronkersic/'> https://www.linkedin.com/in/ronkersic// ronkersic  </a></li><li>Peet Sneekes  - <a href='https://peetsneekes.com/'>https://peetsneekes.com</a></li></ul><p><b>SUBSCRIBE</b></p><ul><li> Youtube Podcast: <a href='https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLjUC6ASFJ_xyHn2bRhoAHx1vXirR3Im9Y&amp;si=uzcDK0cvst5MvjiW'>https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLjUC6ASFJ_xyHn2bRhoAHx1vXirR3Im9Y&amp;si=uzcDK0cvst5MvjiW</a></li><li>Podcasting 2.0 <a href='https://podcastindex.org/podcast/6790883'>https://podcastindex.org/podcast/6790883</a></li><li>Spotify <a href='https://open.spotify.com/show/3KQkzgWKYITlxEcT1BGEd4?si=f22d96f479ff4bd1'>https://open.spotify.com/show/3KQkzgWKYITlxEcT1BGEd4?si=f22d96f479ff4bd1</a></li><li>Apple Podcast <a href='https://podcasts.apple.com/nl/podcast/its-just-a-model/id1730230748?l=en-GB'>https://podcasts.apple.com/nl/podcast/its-just-a-model/id1730230748?l=en-GB</a></li><li>RSS <a href='https://feeds.buzzsprout.com/2300082.rss'>https://feeds.buzzsprout.com/2300082.rss</a></li></ul>]]></content:encoded>
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    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[It's Just a Model is a biweekly conversation with Ron and Peet on the interstitium between innovation, tech, design, and our human behaviour. Your hosts are Ron Kersic, and Peet Sneekes. In this podcast we’ll be talking about the good, the bad and the interesting, all wrapped into an informal, unscripted conversation. If you experience value from this podcast—be it information, entertainment, or a good old disagreement—then you can return said value through your time, talent, and treasure. Se...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p><b>It&apos;s Just a Model is a biweekly conversation with Ron and Peet on the interstitium between innovation, tech, design, and our human behaviour.</b></p><p>Your hosts are Ron Kersic, and Peet Sneekes.</p><p>In this podcast we’ll be talking about the good, the bad and the interesting, all wrapped into an informal, unscripted conversation.</p><p>If you experience value from this podcast—be it information, entertainment, or a good old disagreement—then you can return said value through your time, talent, and treasure. See our website and the show notes for more details.</p><p><b>CHAPTERS</b></p><ul><li>00:00 — Intro</li><li>01:22 — A “crypto bro” turns to “tech”</li><li>10:50 — The Kickstarter mentality taken too far</li><li>17:50 — Framing AI’s framing</li><li>31:10 — AI hampers creativity? (yes, but also no)</li><li>44:01 — Aesthetics of AI, aesthetics in AI</li><li>54:05 — Unframe all the things!!!</li><li>56:40 — Wrapping up</li></ul><p><b>LINKS</b></p><ul><li>Rabbit R1: Barely Reviewable — <a href='https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ddTV12hErTc&amp;pp=ygUMTUtCSEQgcmFiYml0'>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ddTV12hErTc&amp;pp=ygUMTUtCSEQgcmFiYml0</a></li><li><a href='https://www.inverse.com/tech/rabbit-r1-jesse-lyu-interview-artificial-intelligence'>https://www.inverse.com/tech/rabbit-r1-jesse-lyu-interview-artificial-intelligence</a></li><li>“Here&apos;s Why The Production Cybertruck is a Failure” — <a href='https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LC9a3GR1HJY'>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LC9a3GR1HJY</a></li><li>“$30,000,000 AI Is Hiding a Scam” — <a href='https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPOHf20slZg&amp;t=196s'>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPOHf20slZg&amp;t=196s</a></li><li>Mapping the Mind of a Large Language Model — <a href='https://www.anthropic.com/research/mapping-mind-language-model'>https://www.anthropic.com/research/mapping-mind-language-model</a></li><li>Anthropic hires Instagram co-founder as head of product — <a href='https://techcrunch.com/2024/05/15/anthropic-hires-instagram-co-founder-as-head-of-product/'>https://techcrunch.com/2024/05/15/anthropic-hires-instagram-co-founder-as-head-of-product/</a></li><li>Speeds and Feeds — <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speeds_and_feeds'>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speeds_and_feeds</a></li><li>Artificial Creativity — <a href='https://rushkoff.substack.com/p/artificial-creativity'>https://rushkoff.substack.com/p/artificial-creativity</a></li><li>Work vs Management 2x2 — <a href='https://johannesklingebiel.de/wiki/Artificial%20Intelligence/01_automation.html'>https://johannesklingebiel.de/wiki/Artificial%20Intelligence/01_automation.html</a></li><li>Bicycling and feminism —<a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bicycling_and_feminism'>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bicycling_and_feminism</a></li></ul><p><b>ABOUT US</b></p><ul><li>It&apos;s Just A Model podcast: <a href='https://itsjustamodel.com/'>https://itsjustamodel.com</a></li><li>Ron Kersic -  <a href='https://www.linkedin.com/in/ronkersic/'> https://www.linkedin.com/in/ronkersic// ronkersic  </a></li><li>Peet Sneekes  - <a href='https://peetsneekes.com/'>https://peetsneekes.com</a></li></ul><p><b>SUBSCRIBE</b></p><ul><li> Youtube Podcast: <a href='https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLjUC6ASFJ_xyHn2bRhoAHx1vXirR3Im9Y&amp;si=uzcDK0cvst5MvjiW'>https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLjUC6ASFJ_xyHn2bRhoAHx1vXirR3Im9Y&amp;si=uzcDK0cvst5MvjiW</a></li><li>Podcasting 2.0 <a href='https://podcastindex.org/podcast/6790883'>https://podcastindex.org/podcast/6790883</a></li><li>Spotify <a href='https://open.spotify.com/show/3KQkzgWKYITlxEcT1BGEd4?si=f22d96f479ff4bd1'>https://open.spotify.com/show/3KQkzgWKYITlxEcT1BGEd4?si=f22d96f479ff4bd1</a></li><li>Apple Podcast <a href='https://podcasts.apple.com/nl/podcast/its-just-a-model/id1730230748?l=en-GB'>https://podcasts.apple.com/nl/podcast/its-just-a-model/id1730230748?l=en-GB</a></li><li>RSS <a href='https://feeds.buzzsprout.com/2300082.rss'>https://feeds.buzzsprout.com/2300082.rss</a></li></ul>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>It&apos;s Just a Model is a biweekly conversation with Ron and Peet on the interstitium between innovation, tech, design, and our human behaviour.</b></p><p>Your hosts are Ron Kersic, and Peet Sneekes.</p><p>In this podcast we’ll be talking about the good, the bad and the interesting, all wrapped into an informal, unscripted conversation.</p><p>If you experience value from this podcast—be it information, entertainment, or a good old disagreement—then you can return said value through your time, talent, and treasure. See our website and the show notes for more details.</p><p><b>CHAPTERS</b></p><ul><li>00:00 — Intro</li><li>01:22 — A “crypto bro” turns to “tech”</li><li>10:50 — The Kickstarter mentality taken too far</li><li>17:50 — Framing AI’s framing</li><li>31:10 — AI hampers creativity? (yes, but also no)</li><li>44:01 — Aesthetics of AI, aesthetics in AI</li><li>54:05 — Unframe all the things!!!</li><li>56:40 — Wrapping up</li></ul><p><b>LINKS</b></p><ul><li>Rabbit R1: Barely Reviewable — <a href='https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ddTV12hErTc&amp;pp=ygUMTUtCSEQgcmFiYml0'>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ddTV12hErTc&amp;pp=ygUMTUtCSEQgcmFiYml0</a></li><li><a href='https://www.inverse.com/tech/rabbit-r1-jesse-lyu-interview-artificial-intelligence'>https://www.inverse.com/tech/rabbit-r1-jesse-lyu-interview-artificial-intelligence</a></li><li>“Here&apos;s Why The Production Cybertruck is a Failure” — <a href='https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LC9a3GR1HJY'>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LC9a3GR1HJY</a></li><li>“$30,000,000 AI Is Hiding a Scam” — <a href='https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPOHf20slZg&amp;t=196s'>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPOHf20slZg&amp;t=196s</a></li><li>Mapping the Mind of a Large Language Model — <a href='https://www.anthropic.com/research/mapping-mind-language-model'>https://www.anthropic.com/research/mapping-mind-language-model</a></li><li>Anthropic hires Instagram co-founder as head of product — <a href='https://techcrunch.com/2024/05/15/anthropic-hires-instagram-co-founder-as-head-of-product/'>https://techcrunch.com/2024/05/15/anthropic-hires-instagram-co-founder-as-head-of-product/</a></li><li>Speeds and Feeds — <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speeds_and_feeds'>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speeds_and_feeds</a></li><li>Artificial Creativity — <a href='https://rushkoff.substack.com/p/artificial-creativity'>https://rushkoff.substack.com/p/artificial-creativity</a></li><li>Work vs Management 2x2 — <a href='https://johannesklingebiel.de/wiki/Artificial%20Intelligence/01_automation.html'>https://johannesklingebiel.de/wiki/Artificial%20Intelligence/01_automation.html</a></li><li>Bicycling and feminism —<a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bicycling_and_feminism'>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bicycling_and_feminism</a></li></ul><p><b>ABOUT US</b></p><ul><li>It&apos;s Just A Model podcast: <a href='https://itsjustamodel.com/'>https://itsjustamodel.com</a></li><li>Ron Kersic -  <a href='https://www.linkedin.com/in/ronkersic/'> https://www.linkedin.com/in/ronkersic// ronkersic  </a></li><li>Peet Sneekes  - <a href='https://peetsneekes.com/'>https://peetsneekes.com</a></li></ul><p><b>SUBSCRIBE</b></p><ul><li> Youtube Podcast: <a href='https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLjUC6ASFJ_xyHn2bRhoAHx1vXirR3Im9Y&amp;si=uzcDK0cvst5MvjiW'>https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLjUC6ASFJ_xyHn2bRhoAHx1vXirR3Im9Y&amp;si=uzcDK0cvst5MvjiW</a></li><li>Podcasting 2.0 <a href='https://podcastindex.org/podcast/6790883'>https://podcastindex.org/podcast/6790883</a></li><li>Spotify <a href='https://open.spotify.com/show/3KQkzgWKYITlxEcT1BGEd4?si=f22d96f479ff4bd1'>https://open.spotify.com/show/3KQkzgWKYITlxEcT1BGEd4?si=f22d96f479ff4bd1</a></li><li>Apple Podcast <a href='https://podcasts.apple.com/nl/podcast/its-just-a-model/id1730230748?l=en-GB'>https://podcasts.apple.com/nl/podcast/its-just-a-model/id1730230748?l=en-GB</a></li><li>RSS <a href='https://feeds.buzzsprout.com/2300082.rss'>https://feeds.buzzsprout.com/2300082.rss</a></li></ul>]]></content:encoded>
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    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[It's Just a Model is a biweekly conversation with Ron and Peet on the interstitium between innovation, tech, design, and our human behaviour.   Your hosts are Ron Kersic, and Peet Sneekes.  In this podcast we’ll be talking about the good, the bad and the interesting, all wrapped into a informal, unscripted conversation. If you experience value from this podcast—be it information, entertainment, or a good old disagreement—then you can return said value through your time, talent, and treasure. ...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p><b>It&apos;s Just a Model is a biweekly conversation with Ron and Peet on the interstitium between innovation, tech, design, and our human behaviour. </b><br/><br/>Your hosts are Ron Kersic, and Peet Sneekes.<br/><br/>In this podcast we’ll be talking about the good, the bad and the interesting, all wrapped into a informal, unscripted conversation.</p><p>If you experience value from this podcast—be it information, entertainment, or a good old disagreement—then you can return said value through your time, talent, and treasure. See our website and the show notes for more details.<br/><br/></p><p>CHAPTERS</p><ul><li>00:00 — Intro</li><li>02:33 — Ideas exist in between people</li><li>04:32 — How technology dies in optimisation…</li><li>11:10 — …and so *will* digital tech</li><li>16:50 —  Grifters and peak tech culture</li><li>23:36 —  “The Milieu” of oversaturation</li><li>29:55 —  What’s next, then?</li><li>36:45 —  Rewilding and Enchantment</li><li>47:10 —  Do not get boxed in; be more like Feynman</li><li>54:38 —  The “user” deception<br/><br/></li></ul><p>LINKS</p><ul><li>Cutty Sark —  <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cutty_Sark'>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cutty_Sark</a></li><li>Lockheed Constellation —  <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_Constellation'>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_Constellation</a></li><li>Retrograde —  <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Retrograde_and_prograde_motion'>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Retrograde_and_prograde_motion</a></li><li>The Worst Product Review — <a href='https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TitZV6k8zfA&amp;t=1234s'>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TitZV6k8zfA&amp;t=1234s</a></li><li>Artifact —   <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artifact_(app)'>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artifact_(app)</a></li><li>Weird Science — <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weird_Science_(film)'>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weird_Science_(film)</a></li><li>ChatGPT is a Blurry JPEG —  <a href='https://www.newyorker.com/tech/annals-of-technology/chatgpt-is-a-blurry-jpeg-of-the-web'>https://www.newyorker.com/tech/annals-of-technology/chatgpt-is-a-blurry-jpeg-of-the-web</a></li><li>Rewild the Internet —  https://www.noemamag.com/we-need-to-rewild-the-internet/</li><li>Joseph Paxton —  <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Paxton'>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Paxton</a></li><li>Disenchantment —  <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disenchantment'>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disenchantment</a></li><li>Feynman diagram —  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feynman_diagram</li></ul><p><br/></p><p><b>ABOUT US</b></p><ul><li>It&apos;s Just A Model podcast: <a href='https://itsjustamodel.com/'>https://itsjustamodel.com</a></li><li>Ron Kersic -  <a href='https://www.linkedin.com/in/ronkersic/'> https://www.linkedin.com/in/ronkersic// ronkersic  </a></li><li>Peet Sneekes  - <a href='https://peetsneekes.com/'>https://peetsneekes.com</a></li></ul><p><b>SUBSCRIBE</b></p><ul><li> Youtube Podcast: <a href='https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLjUC6ASFJ_xyHn2bRhoAHx1vXirR3Im9Y&amp;si=uzcDK0cvst5MvjiW'>https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLjUC6ASFJ_xyHn2bRhoAHx1vXirR3Im9Y&amp;si=uzcDK0cvst5MvjiW</a></li><li>Podcasting 2.0 <a href='https://podcastindex.org/podcast/6790883'>https://podcastindex.org/podcast/6790883</a></li><li>Spotify <a href='https://open.spotify.com/show/3KQkzgWKYITlxEcT1BGEd4?si=f22d96f479ff4bd1'>https://open.spotify.com/show/3KQkzgWKYITlxEcT1BGEd4?si=f22d96f479ff4bd1</a></li><li>Apple Podcast <a href='https://podcasts.apple.com/nl/podcast/its-just-a-model/id1730230748?l=en-GB'>https://podcasts.apple.com/nl/podcast/its-just-a-model/id1730230748?l=en-GB</a></li><li>RSS <a href='https://feeds.buzzsprout.com/2300082.rss'>https://feeds.buzzsprout.com/2300082.rss</a></li></ul>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>It&apos;s Just a Model is a biweekly conversation with Ron and Peet on the interstitium between innovation, tech, design, and our human behaviour. </b><br/><br/>Your hosts are Ron Kersic, and Peet Sneekes.<br/><br/>In this podcast we’ll be talking about the good, the bad and the interesting, all wrapped into a informal, unscripted conversation.</p><p>If you experience value from this podcast—be it information, entertainment, or a good old disagreement—then you can return said value through your time, talent, and treasure. See our website and the show notes for more details.<br/><br/></p><p>CHAPTERS</p><ul><li>00:00 — Intro</li><li>02:33 — Ideas exist in between people</li><li>04:32 — How technology dies in optimisation…</li><li>11:10 — …and so *will* digital tech</li><li>16:50 —  Grifters and peak tech culture</li><li>23:36 —  “The Milieu” of oversaturation</li><li>29:55 —  What’s next, then?</li><li>36:45 —  Rewilding and Enchantment</li><li>47:10 —  Do not get boxed in; be more like Feynman</li><li>54:38 —  The “user” deception<br/><br/></li></ul><p>LINKS</p><ul><li>Cutty Sark —  <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cutty_Sark'>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cutty_Sark</a></li><li>Lockheed Constellation —  <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_Constellation'>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_Constellation</a></li><li>Retrograde —  <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Retrograde_and_prograde_motion'>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Retrograde_and_prograde_motion</a></li><li>The Worst Product Review — <a href='https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TitZV6k8zfA&amp;t=1234s'>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TitZV6k8zfA&amp;t=1234s</a></li><li>Artifact —   <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artifact_(app)'>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artifact_(app)</a></li><li>Weird Science — <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weird_Science_(film)'>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weird_Science_(film)</a></li><li>ChatGPT is a Blurry JPEG —  <a href='https://www.newyorker.com/tech/annals-of-technology/chatgpt-is-a-blurry-jpeg-of-the-web'>https://www.newyorker.com/tech/annals-of-technology/chatgpt-is-a-blurry-jpeg-of-the-web</a></li><li>Rewild the Internet —  https://www.noemamag.com/we-need-to-rewild-the-internet/</li><li>Joseph Paxton —  <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Paxton'>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Paxton</a></li><li>Disenchantment —  <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disenchantment'>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disenchantment</a></li><li>Feynman diagram —  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feynman_diagram</li></ul><p><br/></p><p><b>ABOUT US</b></p><ul><li>It&apos;s Just A Model podcast: <a href='https://itsjustamodel.com/'>https://itsjustamodel.com</a></li><li>Ron Kersic -  <a href='https://www.linkedin.com/in/ronkersic/'> https://www.linkedin.com/in/ronkersic// ronkersic  </a></li><li>Peet Sneekes  - <a href='https://peetsneekes.com/'>https://peetsneekes.com</a></li></ul><p><b>SUBSCRIBE</b></p><ul><li> Youtube Podcast: <a href='https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLjUC6ASFJ_xyHn2bRhoAHx1vXirR3Im9Y&amp;si=uzcDK0cvst5MvjiW'>https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLjUC6ASFJ_xyHn2bRhoAHx1vXirR3Im9Y&amp;si=uzcDK0cvst5MvjiW</a></li><li>Podcasting 2.0 <a href='https://podcastindex.org/podcast/6790883'>https://podcastindex.org/podcast/6790883</a></li><li>Spotify <a href='https://open.spotify.com/show/3KQkzgWKYITlxEcT1BGEd4?si=f22d96f479ff4bd1'>https://open.spotify.com/show/3KQkzgWKYITlxEcT1BGEd4?si=f22d96f479ff4bd1</a></li><li>Apple Podcast <a href='https://podcasts.apple.com/nl/podcast/its-just-a-model/id1730230748?l=en-GB'>https://podcasts.apple.com/nl/podcast/its-just-a-model/id1730230748?l=en-GB</a></li><li>RSS <a href='https://feeds.buzzsprout.com/2300082.rss'>https://feeds.buzzsprout.com/2300082.rss</a></li></ul>]]></content:encoded>
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    <itunes:title>006 - It&#39;s Just A Model - Muse vs Oracle</itunes:title>
    <title>006 - It&#39;s Just A Model - Muse vs Oracle</title>
    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[It's Just a Model is a biweekly conversation with Ron and Peet on the interstitium between innovation, tech, design, and our human behaviour.   Your hosts are Ron Kersic, and Peet Sneekes.  In this podcast we’ll be talking about the good, the bad and the interesting, all wrapped into a informal, unscripted conversation.  CHAPTERS  Timecodes 00:00 — Intro02:00 – More episodes than Sharknado05:00 – AI, Foresighting, Oracle &amp; Muse13:15 – Gravity &amp; Aesthetics in models17:15 – Generative A...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p><b>It&apos;s Just a Model is a biweekly conversation with Ron and Peet on the interstitium between innovation, tech, design, and our human behaviour. </b><br/><br/>Your hosts are Ron Kersic, and Peet Sneekes.<br/><br/>In this podcast we’ll be talking about the good, the bad and the interesting, all wrapped into a informal, unscripted conversation.<br/><br/>CHAPTERS<br/><br/>Timecodes</p><ul><li>00:00 — Intro</li><li>02:00 – More episodes than Sharknado</li><li>05:00 – AI, Foresighting, Oracle &amp; Muse</li><li>13:15 – Gravity &amp; Aesthetics in models</li><li>17:15 – Generative AI as tomatos (no, really)</li><li>24:04 – The Information Super Highway, revisited</li><li>32:55 –  AI as an UI; that’s it?</li><li>41:20 –  Taste is our super power</li><li>47:25  – Lexical Gaps</li><li>56:05 – Cooling down</li></ul><p><br/>LINKS</p><ul><li>Foresight, a method in futures studies: <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foresight_(futures_studies)'>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foresight_(futures_studies)</a></li><li>Ben Burtt - Designer of the Star Wars sounds: <a href='https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WBKKXjNf1sE'>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WBKKXjNf1sE</a></li><li>Strategic Foresight – <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strategic_foresight'>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strategic_foresight</a></li><li>Joshua Davis – <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joshua_Davis_(designer)'>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joshua_Davis_(designer)</a></li><li>Taste for Makers – <a href='https://www.paulgraham.com/taste.html'>https://www.paulgraham.com/taste.html</a></li><li>Information Superhighway – <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Information_superhighway'>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Information_superhighway</a></li><li>Article about AI as a Muse, rather than an Oracle: <a href='https://www.geoffreylitt.com/2023/02/26/llm-as-muse-not-oracle.html'>https://www.geoffreylitt.com/2023/02/26/llm-as-muse-not-oracle.html</a></li><li>The book Ron mentions: Beauty Is Our Business: A Birthday Salute to Edsger W. Dijkstra - <a href='https://amzn.to/4duxyA8'>https://amzn.to/4duxyA8</a></li><li>SGI Indigo – <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SGI_Indigo'>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SGI_Indigo</a></li><li>The bosses of rival chip giants Nvidia and AMD are cousins: <a href='https://www.businessinsider.com/nvidia-jensen-huang-amd-lisa-su-taiwan-family-ai-chips-2023-11?international=true&amp;r=US&amp;IR=T'>https://www.businessinsider.com/nvidia-jensen-huang-amd-lisa-su-taiwan-family-ai-chips-2023-11?international=true&amp;r=US&amp;IR=T</a></li><li>Zork – <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zork '>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zork </a></li><li>Amazon – Just Walk Out <a href='https://www.aboutamazon.com/news/retail/amazon-just-walk-out-dash-cart-grocery-shopping-checkout-stores'>https://www.aboutamazon.com/news/retail/amazon-just-walk-out-dash-cart-grocery-shopping-checkout-stores</a></li><li>Confusing Perspectives –<a href=' https://www.reddit.com/r/confusing_perspective/'> https://www.reddit.com/r/confusing_perspective/</a></li><li>Hoog – <a href='https://www.youtube.com/c/Hoogromulus/videos'>https://www.youtube.com/c/Hoogromulus/videos</a></li><li>Capricorn One – <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capricorn_One'>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capricorn_One</a></li></ul><p><br/></p><p><b>ABOUT US</b></p><ul><li>It&apos;s Just A Model podcast: <a href='https://itsjustamodel.com/'>https://itsjustamodel.com</a></li><li>Ron Kersic -  <a href='https://www.linkedin.com/in/ronkersic/'> https://www.linkedin.com/in/ronkersic// ronkersic  </a></li><li>Peet Sneekes  - <a href='https://peetsneekes.com/'>https://peetsneekes.com</a></li></ul><p><b>SUBSCRIBE</b></p><ul><li> Youtube Podcast: <a href='https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLjUC6ASFJ_xyHn2bRhoAHx1vXirR3Im9Y&amp;si=uzcDK0cvst5MvjiW'>https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLjUC6ASFJ_xyHn2bRhoAHx1vXirR3Im9Y&amp;si=uzcDK0cvst5MvjiW</a></li><li>Podcasting 2.0 <a href='https://podcastindex.org/podcast/6790883'>https://podcastindex.org/podcast/6790883</a></li><li>Spotify <a href='https://open.spotify.com/show/3KQkzgWKYITlxEcT1BGEd4?si=f22d96f479ff4bd1'>https://open.spotify.com/show/3KQkzgWKYITlxEcT1BGEd4?si=f22d96f479ff4bd1</a></li><li>Apple Podcast <a href='https://podcasts.apple.com/nl/podcast/its-just-a-model/id1730230748?l=en-GB'>https://podcasts.apple.com/nl/podcast/its-just-a-model/id1730230748?l=en-GB</a></li><li>RSS <a href='https://feeds.buzzsprout.com/2300082.rss'>https://feeds.buzzsprout.com/2300082.rss</a></li></ul>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>It&apos;s Just a Model is a biweekly conversation with Ron and Peet on the interstitium between innovation, tech, design, and our human behaviour. </b><br/><br/>Your hosts are Ron Kersic, and Peet Sneekes.<br/><br/>In this podcast we’ll be talking about the good, the bad and the interesting, all wrapped into a informal, unscripted conversation.<br/><br/>CHAPTERS<br/><br/>Timecodes</p><ul><li>00:00 — Intro</li><li>02:00 – More episodes than Sharknado</li><li>05:00 – AI, Foresighting, Oracle &amp; Muse</li><li>13:15 – Gravity &amp; Aesthetics in models</li><li>17:15 – Generative AI as tomatos (no, really)</li><li>24:04 – The Information Super Highway, revisited</li><li>32:55 –  AI as an UI; that’s it?</li><li>41:20 –  Taste is our super power</li><li>47:25  – Lexical Gaps</li><li>56:05 – Cooling down</li></ul><p><br/>LINKS</p><ul><li>Foresight, a method in futures studies: <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foresight_(futures_studies)'>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foresight_(futures_studies)</a></li><li>Ben Burtt - Designer of the Star Wars sounds: <a href='https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WBKKXjNf1sE'>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WBKKXjNf1sE</a></li><li>Strategic Foresight – <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strategic_foresight'>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strategic_foresight</a></li><li>Joshua Davis – <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joshua_Davis_(designer)'>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joshua_Davis_(designer)</a></li><li>Taste for Makers – <a href='https://www.paulgraham.com/taste.html'>https://www.paulgraham.com/taste.html</a></li><li>Information Superhighway – <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Information_superhighway'>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Information_superhighway</a></li><li>Article about AI as a Muse, rather than an Oracle: <a href='https://www.geoffreylitt.com/2023/02/26/llm-as-muse-not-oracle.html'>https://www.geoffreylitt.com/2023/02/26/llm-as-muse-not-oracle.html</a></li><li>The book Ron mentions: Beauty Is Our Business: A Birthday Salute to Edsger W. Dijkstra - <a href='https://amzn.to/4duxyA8'>https://amzn.to/4duxyA8</a></li><li>SGI Indigo – <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SGI_Indigo'>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SGI_Indigo</a></li><li>The bosses of rival chip giants Nvidia and AMD are cousins: <a href='https://www.businessinsider.com/nvidia-jensen-huang-amd-lisa-su-taiwan-family-ai-chips-2023-11?international=true&amp;r=US&amp;IR=T'>https://www.businessinsider.com/nvidia-jensen-huang-amd-lisa-su-taiwan-family-ai-chips-2023-11?international=true&amp;r=US&amp;IR=T</a></li><li>Zork – <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zork '>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zork </a></li><li>Amazon – Just Walk Out <a href='https://www.aboutamazon.com/news/retail/amazon-just-walk-out-dash-cart-grocery-shopping-checkout-stores'>https://www.aboutamazon.com/news/retail/amazon-just-walk-out-dash-cart-grocery-shopping-checkout-stores</a></li><li>Confusing Perspectives –<a href=' https://www.reddit.com/r/confusing_perspective/'> https://www.reddit.com/r/confusing_perspective/</a></li><li>Hoog – <a href='https://www.youtube.com/c/Hoogromulus/videos'>https://www.youtube.com/c/Hoogromulus/videos</a></li><li>Capricorn One – <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capricorn_One'>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capricorn_One</a></li></ul><p><br/></p><p><b>ABOUT US</b></p><ul><li>It&apos;s Just A Model podcast: <a href='https://itsjustamodel.com/'>https://itsjustamodel.com</a></li><li>Ron Kersic -  <a href='https://www.linkedin.com/in/ronkersic/'> https://www.linkedin.com/in/ronkersic// ronkersic  </a></li><li>Peet Sneekes  - <a href='https://peetsneekes.com/'>https://peetsneekes.com</a></li></ul><p><b>SUBSCRIBE</b></p><ul><li> Youtube Podcast: <a href='https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLjUC6ASFJ_xyHn2bRhoAHx1vXirR3Im9Y&amp;si=uzcDK0cvst5MvjiW'>https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLjUC6ASFJ_xyHn2bRhoAHx1vXirR3Im9Y&amp;si=uzcDK0cvst5MvjiW</a></li><li>Podcasting 2.0 <a href='https://podcastindex.org/podcast/6790883'>https://podcastindex.org/podcast/6790883</a></li><li>Spotify <a href='https://open.spotify.com/show/3KQkzgWKYITlxEcT1BGEd4?si=f22d96f479ff4bd1'>https://open.spotify.com/show/3KQkzgWKYITlxEcT1BGEd4?si=f22d96f479ff4bd1</a></li><li>Apple Podcast <a href='https://podcasts.apple.com/nl/podcast/its-just-a-model/id1730230748?l=en-GB'>https://podcasts.apple.com/nl/podcast/its-just-a-model/id1730230748?l=en-GB</a></li><li>RSS <a href='https://feeds.buzzsprout.com/2300082.rss'>https://feeds.buzzsprout.com/2300082.rss</a></li></ul>]]></content:encoded>
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    <itunes:title>005 - It&#39;s Just A Model - The Huemanity</itunes:title>
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    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[This is It’s Just a Model, the podcast that traverses all gradients of the interstitium. Here, we saturate, illuminate and articulate matters of innovation, tech, design and our collective behaviour.   Your hosts are Ron Kersic, the benevolent programmer of all your top brass and architect of the technology and humanity convergence, and Peet Sneekes, soon-to-be compensated empathic design evangelist.  In this podcast, we’ll discuss the good, the bad, and the interesting in an informal, u...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p>This is It’s Just a Model, the podcast that traverses all gradients of the interstitium. Here, we saturate, illuminate and articulate matters of innovation, tech, design and our collective behaviour. <br/><br/>Your hosts are Ron Kersic, the benevolent programmer of all your top brass and architect of the technology and humanity convergence, and Peet Sneekes, soon-to-be compensated empathic design evangelist.<br/><br/>In this podcast, we’ll discuss the good, the bad, and the interesting in an informal, unscripted conversation.</p><p>If you experience value from this podcast—be it information, entertainment, or a good old disagreement—then you can return said value through your time, talent, and treasure. See our website and the show notes for more details.<br/><br/></p><p>CHAPTERS</p><ul><li>00:00 — Intro</li><li>02:48 — Automating for a (gasp!) reason</li><li>09:36 — Reverse Centaurs of AI</li><li>14:25 — Learning, no matter what</li><li>18:00 — Mass-everything (the end of)</li><li>25:02 — The people’s AI</li><li>31:43 — Swinging back from optimization (and IT)</li><li>39:05 — Backtrack and remake</li><li>47:07 — The new paradigm: taste v skill</li><li>56:08 — A call to action</li><li>59:56 — In closing: a rant on Patreon</li></ul><p>LINKS</p><ul><li> Computer Says No — <a href='https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0YGZPycMEU'>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0YGZPycMEU</a></li><li>Modula 2 — <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modula-2'>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modula-2</a></li><li>The Saturn V — <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saturn_V'>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saturn_V</a></li><li>The Interstitium — <a href='https://orionmagazine.org/article/interstitium-scientific-discovery-anatomy'>https://orionmagazine.org/article/interstitium-scientific-discovery-anatomy</a></li><li>Halting Problem — <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halting_problem'>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halting_problem</a></li><li>Fuzzy Logic — <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fuzzy_logic'>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fuzzy_logic</a></li></ul><p>ABOUT US</p><ul><li>It&apos;s Just A Model podcast: <a href='https://itsjustamodel.com/'>https://itsjustamodel.com</a></li><li>Ron Kersic -  <a href='https://www.linkedin.com/in/ronkersic/'> https://www.linkedin.com/in/ronkersic// ronkersic  </a></li><li>Peet Sneekes  - <a href='https://peetsneekes.com/'>https://peetsneekes.com</a></li></ul><p>SUBSCRIBE</p><ul><li> Youtube Podcast: <a href='https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLjUC6ASFJ_xyHn2bRhoAHx1vXirR3Im9Y&amp;si=uzcDK0cvst5MvjiW'>https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLjUC6ASFJ_xyHn2bRhoAHx1vXirR3Im9Y&amp;si=uzcDK0cvst5MvjiW</a></li><li>Podcasting 2.0 <a href='https://podcastindex.org/podcast/6790883'>https://podcastindex.org/podcast/6790883</a></li><li>Spotify <a href='https://open.spotify.com/show/3KQkzgWKYITlxEcT1BGEd4?si=f22d96f479ff4bd1'>https://open.spotify.com/show/3KQkzgWKYITlxEcT1BGEd4?si=f22d96f479ff4bd1</a></li><li>Apple Podcast <a href='https://podcasts.apple.com/nl/podcast/its-just-a-model/id1730230748?l=en-GB'>https://podcasts.apple.com/nl/podcast/its-just-a-model/id1730230748?l=en-GB</a></li><li>RSS <a href='https://feeds.buzzsprout.com/2300082.rss'>https://feeds.buzzsprout.com/2300082.rss</a></li></ul><p><b>ABOUT US</b></p><ul><li>It&apos;s Just A Model podcast: <a href='https://itsjustamodel.com/'>https://itsjustamodel.com</a></li><li>Ron Kersic -  <a href='https://www.linkedin.com/in/ronkersic/'> https://www.linkedin.com/in/ronkersic// ronkersic  </a></li><li>Peet Sneekes  - <a href='https://peetsneekes.com/'>https://peetsneekes.com</a></li></ul><p><b>SUBSCRIBE</b></p><ul><li> Youtube Podcast: <a href='https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLjUC6ASFJ_xyHn2bRhoAHx1vXirR3Im9Y&amp;si=uzcDK0cvst5MvjiW'>https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLjUC6ASFJ_xyHn2bRhoAHx1vXirR3Im9Y&amp;si=uzcDK0cvst5MvjiW</a></li><li>Podcasting 2.0 <a href='https://podcastindex.org/podcast/6790883'>https://podcastindex.org/podcast/6790883</a></li><li>Spotify <a href='https://open.spotify.com/show/3KQkzgWKYITlxEcT1BGEd4?si=f22d96f479ff4bd1'>https://open.spotify.com/show/3KQkzgWKYITlxEcT1BGEd4?si=f22d96f479ff4bd1</a></li><li>Apple Podcast <a href='https://podcasts.apple.com/nl/podcast/its-just-a-model/id1730230748?l=en-GB'>https://podcasts.apple.com/nl/podcast/its-just-a-model/id1730230748?l=en-GB</a></li><li>RSS <a href='https://feeds.buzzsprout.com/2300082.rss'>https://feeds.buzzsprout.com/2300082.rss</a></li></ul>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is It’s Just a Model, the podcast that traverses all gradients of the interstitium. Here, we saturate, illuminate and articulate matters of innovation, tech, design and our collective behaviour. <br/><br/>Your hosts are Ron Kersic, the benevolent programmer of all your top brass and architect of the technology and humanity convergence, and Peet Sneekes, soon-to-be compensated empathic design evangelist.<br/><br/>In this podcast, we’ll discuss the good, the bad, and the interesting in an informal, unscripted conversation.</p><p>If you experience value from this podcast—be it information, entertainment, or a good old disagreement—then you can return said value through your time, talent, and treasure. See our website and the show notes for more details.<br/><br/></p><p>CHAPTERS</p><ul><li>00:00 — Intro</li><li>02:48 — Automating for a (gasp!) reason</li><li>09:36 — Reverse Centaurs of AI</li><li>14:25 — Learning, no matter what</li><li>18:00 — Mass-everything (the end of)</li><li>25:02 — The people’s AI</li><li>31:43 — Swinging back from optimization (and IT)</li><li>39:05 — Backtrack and remake</li><li>47:07 — The new paradigm: taste v skill</li><li>56:08 — A call to action</li><li>59:56 — In closing: a rant on Patreon</li></ul><p>LINKS</p><ul><li> Computer Says No — <a href='https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0YGZPycMEU'>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0YGZPycMEU</a></li><li>Modula 2 — <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modula-2'>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modula-2</a></li><li>The Saturn V — <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saturn_V'>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saturn_V</a></li><li>The Interstitium — <a href='https://orionmagazine.org/article/interstitium-scientific-discovery-anatomy'>https://orionmagazine.org/article/interstitium-scientific-discovery-anatomy</a></li><li>Halting Problem — <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halting_problem'>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halting_problem</a></li><li>Fuzzy Logic — <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fuzzy_logic'>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fuzzy_logic</a></li></ul><p>ABOUT US</p><ul><li>It&apos;s Just A Model podcast: <a href='https://itsjustamodel.com/'>https://itsjustamodel.com</a></li><li>Ron Kersic -  <a href='https://www.linkedin.com/in/ronkersic/'> https://www.linkedin.com/in/ronkersic// ronkersic  </a></li><li>Peet Sneekes  - <a href='https://peetsneekes.com/'>https://peetsneekes.com</a></li></ul><p>SUBSCRIBE</p><ul><li> Youtube Podcast: <a href='https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLjUC6ASFJ_xyHn2bRhoAHx1vXirR3Im9Y&amp;si=uzcDK0cvst5MvjiW'>https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLjUC6ASFJ_xyHn2bRhoAHx1vXirR3Im9Y&amp;si=uzcDK0cvst5MvjiW</a></li><li>Podcasting 2.0 <a href='https://podcastindex.org/podcast/6790883'>https://podcastindex.org/podcast/6790883</a></li><li>Spotify <a href='https://open.spotify.com/show/3KQkzgWKYITlxEcT1BGEd4?si=f22d96f479ff4bd1'>https://open.spotify.com/show/3KQkzgWKYITlxEcT1BGEd4?si=f22d96f479ff4bd1</a></li><li>Apple Podcast <a href='https://podcasts.apple.com/nl/podcast/its-just-a-model/id1730230748?l=en-GB'>https://podcasts.apple.com/nl/podcast/its-just-a-model/id1730230748?l=en-GB</a></li><li>RSS <a href='https://feeds.buzzsprout.com/2300082.rss'>https://feeds.buzzsprout.com/2300082.rss</a></li></ul><p><b>ABOUT US</b></p><ul><li>It&apos;s Just A Model podcast: <a href='https://itsjustamodel.com/'>https://itsjustamodel.com</a></li><li>Ron Kersic -  <a href='https://www.linkedin.com/in/ronkersic/'> https://www.linkedin.com/in/ronkersic// ronkersic  </a></li><li>Peet Sneekes  - <a href='https://peetsneekes.com/'>https://peetsneekes.com</a></li></ul><p><b>SUBSCRIBE</b></p><ul><li> Youtube Podcast: <a href='https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLjUC6ASFJ_xyHn2bRhoAHx1vXirR3Im9Y&amp;si=uzcDK0cvst5MvjiW'>https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLjUC6ASFJ_xyHn2bRhoAHx1vXirR3Im9Y&amp;si=uzcDK0cvst5MvjiW</a></li><li>Podcasting 2.0 <a href='https://podcastindex.org/podcast/6790883'>https://podcastindex.org/podcast/6790883</a></li><li>Spotify <a href='https://open.spotify.com/show/3KQkzgWKYITlxEcT1BGEd4?si=f22d96f479ff4bd1'>https://open.spotify.com/show/3KQkzgWKYITlxEcT1BGEd4?si=f22d96f479ff4bd1</a></li><li>Apple Podcast <a href='https://podcasts.apple.com/nl/podcast/its-just-a-model/id1730230748?l=en-GB'>https://podcasts.apple.com/nl/podcast/its-just-a-model/id1730230748?l=en-GB</a></li><li>RSS <a href='https://feeds.buzzsprout.com/2300082.rss'>https://feeds.buzzsprout.com/2300082.rss</a></li></ul>]]></content:encoded>
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    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[This is It’s Just a Model, the podcast that travels the interstitium, past the trends and the outrage, straight to the meaning and beauty of tech, design, behavior and innovation.  Your hosts are Ron Kersic, reversed historian and tech maven and freelance time traveler Peet Sneekes.  In this podcast we’ll be exposing hidden connections, lay bare  possible futures and discuss the unimaginable.    Oh and If you experience value from this podcast, like information, entertainment, ...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p>This is It’s Just a Model, the podcast that travels the interstitium, past the trends and the outrage, straight to the meaning and beauty of tech, design, behavior and innovation. </p><p>Your hosts are Ron Kersic, reversed historian and tech maven and freelance time traveler Peet Sneekes.<br/><br/>In this podcast we’ll be exposing hidden connections, lay bare  possible futures and discuss the unimaginable.  <br/><br/>Oh and If you experience value from this podcast, like information, entertainment, like a good old disagreement, then you can return said value through your time, talent, and treasure. See our website and the show notes for more details.</p><p>CHAPTERS<br/><br/>Timecodes</p><ul><li>0:00 - Intro</li><li>1:04 - Ron&apos;s news letters vs podcasts</li><li>2:20 - Pace Layers, or pace Layering</li><li>3:19 - Ron&apos;s book: How Buildings Work</li><li>10:35 - Peet talks about Smart Cities and how pace layering fits into that view</li><li>18:00 - Events, Culture and Paradigm shifts</li><li>22:45 - A fail safe to paradigm shifts</li><li>24:00 - There is no blood brain barrier in digital, so things tend to escalate quite quickly</li><li>28:00 - An example of &apos;Sheering layers&apos; with our social media</li><li>30:00 - Measure of appreciation</li><li>34:00 - Increasing luck: do all kinds of things</li><li>36:30 - Maximize success by learning</li><li>42:30 - Being aware of your own ecosystem - Subscribe vs Participation</li><li>44:25 - Predictions on legislation</li><li>45:15 - Creative Agencies, Government and Procurement</li><li>49:30 - Sheering layers, Jony Ive (Annequote)</li></ul><p><br/>LINKS</p><ul><li>Link that <a href='https://vasilis.nl'>Vasilis</a> shared with us: <a href='https://adactio.medium.com/pace-layers-and-design-principles-dcdf2b26c059'>https://adactio.medium.com/pace-layers-and-design-principles-dcdf2b26c059</a></li><li>Inspired look at Pace Layering by Stewart Brand: <a href='https://jods.mitpress.mit.edu/pub/issue3-brand/release/2'>https://jods.mitpress.mit.edu/pub/issue3-brand/release/2</a></li><li>The Long Now Foundation: <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_Now_Foundation'>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_Now_Foundation</a></li><li>Ron&apos;s book tip: &quot;How Buildings Learn: What Happens After They&apos;re Built&quot;: <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/How_Buildings_Learn'>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/How_Buildings_Learn</a></li><li>Thomas Kuhn: Paradigm Shifts: <a href='https://www.simplypsychology.org/kuhn-paradigm.html'>https://www.simplypsychology.org/kuhn-paradigm.html</a></li><li>The article by Byrne Hobart in the Diff: <a href='https://www.thediff.co/archive/svb-in-retrospect/amp/'>https://www.thediff.co/archive/svb-in-retrospect/amp/</a></li><li>Victor Knaap&apos;s article on procurement in government (Dutch): <a href='https://www.adformatie.nl/digital-transformation-tech/victor-knaap-pleit-voor-digitaal-deltaplan'>https://www.adformatie.nl/digital-transformation-tech/victor-knaap-pleit-voor-digitaal-deltaplan</a></li></ul><p><br/>ABOUT US</p><ul><li>It&apos;s Just A Model podcast: <a href='https://itsjustamodel.com/'>https://itsjustamodel.com</a></li><li>Ron Kersic -  <a href='https://www.linkedin.com/in/ronkersic/'> https://www.linkedin.com/in/ronkersic// ronkersic  </a></li><li>Peet Sneekes  - <a href='https://peetsneekes.com/'>https://peetsneekes.com</a></li></ul><p><br/>SUBSCRIBE</p><ul><li> Youtube Podcast: <a href='https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLjUC6ASFJ_xyHn2bRhoAHx1vXirR3Im9Y&amp;si=uzcDK0cvst5MvjiW'>https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLjUC6ASFJ_xyHn2bRhoAHx1vXirR3Im9Y&amp;si=uzcDK0cvst5MvjiW</a></li><li>Podcasting 2.0 <a href='https://podcastindex.org/podcast/6790883'>https://podcastindex.org/podcast/6790883</a></li><li>Spotify <a href='https://open.spotify.com/show/3KQkzgWKYITlxEcT1BGEd4?si=f22d96f479ff4bd1'>https://open.spotify.com/show/3KQkzgWKYITlxEcT1BGEd4?si=f22d96f479ff4bd1</a></li><li>Apple Podcast <a href='https://podcasts.apple.com/nl/podcast/its-just-a-mode&lt;/truncato-artificial-root&gt;'></li></ul><p><b>ABOUT US</b></p><ul><li>It&apos;s Just A Model podcast: <a href='https://itsjustamodel.com/'>https://itsjustamodel.com</a></li><li>Ron Kersic -  <a href='https://www.linkedin.com/in/ronkersic/'> https://www.linkedin.com/in/ronkersic// ronkersic  </a></li><li>Peet Sneekes  - <a href='https://peetsneekes.com/'>https://peetsneekes.com</a></li></ul><p><b>SUBSCRIBE</b></p><ul><li> Youtube Podcast: <a href='https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLjUC6ASFJ_xyHn2bRhoAHx1vXirR3Im9Y&amp;si=uzcDK0cvst5MvjiW'>https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLjUC6ASFJ_xyHn2bRhoAHx1vXirR3Im9Y&amp;si=uzcDK0cvst5MvjiW</a></li><li>Podcasting 2.0 <a href='https://podcastindex.org/podcast/6790883'>https://podcastindex.org/podcast/6790883</a></li><li>Spotify <a href='https://open.spotify.com/show/3KQkzgWKYITlxEcT1BGEd4?si=f22d96f479ff4bd1'>https://open.spotify.com/show/3KQkzgWKYITlxEcT1BGEd4?si=f22d96f479ff4bd1</a></li><li>Apple Podcast <a href='https://podcasts.apple.com/nl/podcast/its-just-a-model/id1730230748?l=en-GB'>https://podcasts.apple.com/nl/podcast/its-just-a-model/id1730230748?l=en-GB</a></li><li>RSS <a href='https://feeds.buzzsprout.com/2300082.rss'>https://feeds.buzzsprout.com/2300082.rss</a></li></ul>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is It’s Just a Model, the podcast that travels the interstitium, past the trends and the outrage, straight to the meaning and beauty of tech, design, behavior and innovation. </p><p>Your hosts are Ron Kersic, reversed historian and tech maven and freelance time traveler Peet Sneekes.<br/><br/>In this podcast we’ll be exposing hidden connections, lay bare  possible futures and discuss the unimaginable.  <br/><br/>Oh and If you experience value from this podcast, like information, entertainment, like a good old disagreement, then you can return said value through your time, talent, and treasure. See our website and the show notes for more details.</p><p>CHAPTERS<br/><br/>Timecodes</p><ul><li>0:00 - Intro</li><li>1:04 - Ron&apos;s news letters vs podcasts</li><li>2:20 - Pace Layers, or pace Layering</li><li>3:19 - Ron&apos;s book: How Buildings Work</li><li>10:35 - Peet talks about Smart Cities and how pace layering fits into that view</li><li>18:00 - Events, Culture and Paradigm shifts</li><li>22:45 - A fail safe to paradigm shifts</li><li>24:00 - There is no blood brain barrier in digital, so things tend to escalate quite quickly</li><li>28:00 - An example of &apos;Sheering layers&apos; with our social media</li><li>30:00 - Measure of appreciation</li><li>34:00 - Increasing luck: do all kinds of things</li><li>36:30 - Maximize success by learning</li><li>42:30 - Being aware of your own ecosystem - Subscribe vs Participation</li><li>44:25 - Predictions on legislation</li><li>45:15 - Creative Agencies, Government and Procurement</li><li>49:30 - Sheering layers, Jony Ive (Annequote)</li></ul><p><br/>LINKS</p><ul><li>Link that <a href='https://vasilis.nl'>Vasilis</a> shared with us: <a href='https://adactio.medium.com/pace-layers-and-design-principles-dcdf2b26c059'>https://adactio.medium.com/pace-layers-and-design-principles-dcdf2b26c059</a></li><li>Inspired look at Pace Layering by Stewart Brand: <a href='https://jods.mitpress.mit.edu/pub/issue3-brand/release/2'>https://jods.mitpress.mit.edu/pub/issue3-brand/release/2</a></li><li>The Long Now Foundation: <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_Now_Foundation'>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_Now_Foundation</a></li><li>Ron&apos;s book tip: &quot;How Buildings Learn: What Happens After They&apos;re Built&quot;: <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/How_Buildings_Learn'>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/How_Buildings_Learn</a></li><li>Thomas Kuhn: Paradigm Shifts: <a href='https://www.simplypsychology.org/kuhn-paradigm.html'>https://www.simplypsychology.org/kuhn-paradigm.html</a></li><li>The article by Byrne Hobart in the Diff: <a href='https://www.thediff.co/archive/svb-in-retrospect/amp/'>https://www.thediff.co/archive/svb-in-retrospect/amp/</a></li><li>Victor Knaap&apos;s article on procurement in government (Dutch): <a href='https://www.adformatie.nl/digital-transformation-tech/victor-knaap-pleit-voor-digitaal-deltaplan'>https://www.adformatie.nl/digital-transformation-tech/victor-knaap-pleit-voor-digitaal-deltaplan</a></li></ul><p><br/>ABOUT US</p><ul><li>It&apos;s Just A Model podcast: <a href='https://itsjustamodel.com/'>https://itsjustamodel.com</a></li><li>Ron Kersic -  <a href='https://www.linkedin.com/in/ronkersic/'> https://www.linkedin.com/in/ronkersic// ronkersic  </a></li><li>Peet Sneekes  - <a href='https://peetsneekes.com/'>https://peetsneekes.com</a></li></ul><p><br/>SUBSCRIBE</p><ul><li> Youtube Podcast: <a href='https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLjUC6ASFJ_xyHn2bRhoAHx1vXirR3Im9Y&amp;si=uzcDK0cvst5MvjiW'>https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLjUC6ASFJ_xyHn2bRhoAHx1vXirR3Im9Y&amp;si=uzcDK0cvst5MvjiW</a></li><li>Podcasting 2.0 <a href='https://podcastindex.org/podcast/6790883'>https://podcastindex.org/podcast/6790883</a></li><li>Spotify <a href='https://open.spotify.com/show/3KQkzgWKYITlxEcT1BGEd4?si=f22d96f479ff4bd1'>https://open.spotify.com/show/3KQkzgWKYITlxEcT1BGEd4?si=f22d96f479ff4bd1</a></li><li>Apple Podcast <a href='https://podcasts.apple.com/nl/podcast/its-just-a-mode&lt;/truncato-artificial-root&gt;'></li></ul><p><b>ABOUT US</b></p><ul><li>It&apos;s Just A Model podcast: <a href='https://itsjustamodel.com/'>https://itsjustamodel.com</a></li><li>Ron Kersic -  <a href='https://www.linkedin.com/in/ronkersic/'> https://www.linkedin.com/in/ronkersic// ronkersic  </a></li><li>Peet Sneekes  - <a href='https://peetsneekes.com/'>https://peetsneekes.com</a></li></ul><p><b>SUBSCRIBE</b></p><ul><li> Youtube Podcast: <a href='https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLjUC6ASFJ_xyHn2bRhoAHx1vXirR3Im9Y&amp;si=uzcDK0cvst5MvjiW'>https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLjUC6ASFJ_xyHn2bRhoAHx1vXirR3Im9Y&amp;si=uzcDK0cvst5MvjiW</a></li><li>Podcasting 2.0 <a href='https://podcastindex.org/podcast/6790883'>https://podcastindex.org/podcast/6790883</a></li><li>Spotify <a href='https://open.spotify.com/show/3KQkzgWKYITlxEcT1BGEd4?si=f22d96f479ff4bd1'>https://open.spotify.com/show/3KQkzgWKYITlxEcT1BGEd4?si=f22d96f479ff4bd1</a></li><li>Apple Podcast <a href='https://podcasts.apple.com/nl/podcast/its-just-a-model/id1730230748?l=en-GB'>https://podcasts.apple.com/nl/podcast/its-just-a-model/id1730230748?l=en-GB</a></li><li>RSS <a href='https://feeds.buzzsprout.com/2300082.rss'>https://feeds.buzzsprout.com/2300082.rss</a></li></ul>]]></content:encoded>
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    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[This is It’s Just a Model, the podcast that looks lovingly in the face of the interstitium of beauty, business, and ambivalent bravoure. Your hosts are Ron Kersic, the voice of future past and the architect of third horizon fiction and Peet Sneekes, strategic storyteller and speculative futures fan.  In this podcast we’ll be caressing stories that peeked our interrest and surface the true intent, or devious implication of architecture, behaviour and design.    Oh and If you experience va...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p>This is It’s Just a Model, the podcast that looks lovingly in the face of the <b>interstitium</b> of beauty, business, and ambivalent bravoure.</p><p>Your hosts are Ron Kersic, the voice of future past and the architect of third horizon fiction and Peet Sneekes, strategic storyteller and speculative futures fan.<br/><br/>In this podcast we’ll be caressing stories that peeked our interrest and surface the true intent, or devious implication of architecture, behaviour and design.  <br/><br/>Oh and If you experience value from this podcast, like information, entertainment, like a good old disagreement, then you can return said value through your time, talent, and treasure. See our website and the show notes for more details.</p><p>CHAPTERS<br/><br/>Timecodes<br/>0:00 - Intro<br/>01:54 - The Galactic Compass <br/>06:30 - Taste and Skills in Generative AI<br/>13:26 - Nostalgia In, Nostalgia Out (again)<br/>18:20 - Beauty in Things Going Wrong<br/>26:00 - The value *in* the journey<br/>33:00 - Your vested audience<br/>40:10 - Imperfections are not a bug<br/>47:12 - The A.I. aesthetic <br/>51:56 - The vault mentality<br/><br/>LINKS</p><ul><li>Interconnected.org - <a href='https://interconnected.org/home/2024/02/15/galactic-compass'>https://interconnected.org/home/2024/02/15/galactic-compass</a></li><li>Klarna - <a href='https://www.klarna.com/international/press/klarna-ai-assistant-handles-two-thirds-of-customer-service-chats-in-its-first-month/'>https://www.klarna.com/international/press/klarna-ai-assistant-handles-two-thirds-of-customer-service-chats-in-its-first-month/</a></li><li>Sora&apos;s Tokyo Walk -<a href=' https://cdn.openai.com/sora/videos/tokyo-walk.mp4'> https://cdn.openai.com/sora/videos/tokyo-walk.mp4</a></li><li>The OG Orginal Thinker - <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Feynman'>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Feynman</a></li><li>Kwebbelkop - <a href='https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BiV0lz_SQP4 '>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BiV0lz_SQP4 </a></li><li>Rick Deckard -<a href=' https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rick_Deckard'> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rick_Deckard</a></li><li>H.R. Giger -<a href=' https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H._R._Giger'> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H._R._Giger</a></li><li>Tipping ChatGPT - <a href='https://minimaxir.com/2024/02/chatgpt-tips-analysis/'>https://minimaxir.com/2024/02/chatgpt-tips-analysis/</a></li><li>Max Headroom -<a href=' https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Max_Headroom'> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Max_Headroom</a></li><li>Prince&apos;s work ethic -<a href=' https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ECGcTM_gk4s'> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ECGcTM_gk4s</a></li></ul><p><br/>ABOUT US</p><ul><li>It&apos;s Just A Model podcast: <a href='https://itsjustamodel.com/'>https://itsjustamodel.com</a></li><li>Ron Kersic -  <a href='https://www.linkedin.com/in/ronkersic/'> https://www.linkedin.com/in/ronkersic// ronkersic  </a></li><li>Peet Sneekes  - <a href='https://peetsneekes.com/'>https://peetsneekes.com</a></li></ul><p><br/>SUBSCRIBE</p><ul><li> Youtube Podcast: <a href='https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLjUC6ASFJ_xyHn2bRhoAHx1vXirR3Im9Y&amp;si=uzcDK0cvst5MvjiW'>https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLjUC6ASFJ_xyHn2bRhoAHx1vXirR3Im9Y&amp;si=uzcDK0cvst5MvjiW</a></li><li>Podcasting 2.0 <a href='https://podcastindex.org/podcast/6790883'>https://podcastindex.org/podcast/6790883</a></li><li>Spotify <a href='https://open.spotify.com/show/3KQkzgWKYITlxEcT1BGEd4?si=f22d96f479ff4bd1'>https://open.spotify.com/show/3KQkzgWKYITlxEcT1BGEd4?si=f22d96f479ff4bd1</a></li><li>Apple Podcast <a href='https://podcasts.apple.com/nl/podcast/its-just-a-model/id1730230748?l=en-GB'>https://podcasts.apple.com/nl/podcast/its-just-a-model/id1730230748?l=en-GB</a></li><li>RSS <a href='https://feeds.buzzsprout.com/2300082.rss'>https://feeds.buzzsprout.com/2300082.rss</a></li></ul><p><b>ABOUT US</b></p><ul><li>It&apos;s Just A Model podcast: <a href='https://itsjustamodel.com/'>https://itsjustamodel.com</a></li><li>Ron Kersic -  <a href='https://www.linkedin.com/in/ronkersic/'> https://www.linkedin.com/in/ronkersic// ronkersic  </a></li><li>Peet Sneekes  - <a href='https://peetsneekes.com/'>https://peetsneekes.com</a></li></ul><p><b>SUBSCRIBE</b></p><ul><li> Youtube Podcast: <a href='https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLjUC6ASFJ_xyHn2bRhoAHx1vXirR3Im9Y&amp;si=uzcDK0cvst5MvjiW'>https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLjUC6ASFJ_xyHn2bRhoAHx1vXirR3Im9Y&amp;si=uzcDK0cvst5MvjiW</a></li><li>Podcasting 2.0 <a href='https://podcastindex.org/podcast/6790883'>https://podcastindex.org/podcast/6790883</a></li><li>Spotify <a href='https://open.spotify.com/show/3KQkzgWKYITlxEcT1BGEd4?si=f22d96f479ff4bd1'>https://open.spotify.com/show/3KQkzgWKYITlxEcT1BGEd4?si=f22d96f479ff4bd1</a></li><li>Apple Podcast <a href='https://podcasts.apple.com/nl/podcast/its-just-a-model/id1730230748?l=en-GB'>https://podcasts.apple.com/nl/podcast/its-just-a-model/id1730230748?l=en-GB</a></li><li>RSS <a href='https://feeds.buzzsprout.com/2300082.rss'>https://feeds.buzzsprout.com/2300082.rss</a></li></ul>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is It’s Just a Model, the podcast that looks lovingly in the face of the <b>interstitium</b> of beauty, business, and ambivalent bravoure.</p><p>Your hosts are Ron Kersic, the voice of future past and the architect of third horizon fiction and Peet Sneekes, strategic storyteller and speculative futures fan.<br/><br/>In this podcast we’ll be caressing stories that peeked our interrest and surface the true intent, or devious implication of architecture, behaviour and design.  <br/><br/>Oh and If you experience value from this podcast, like information, entertainment, like a good old disagreement, then you can return said value through your time, talent, and treasure. See our website and the show notes for more details.</p><p>CHAPTERS<br/><br/>Timecodes<br/>0:00 - Intro<br/>01:54 - The Galactic Compass <br/>06:30 - Taste and Skills in Generative AI<br/>13:26 - Nostalgia In, Nostalgia Out (again)<br/>18:20 - Beauty in Things Going Wrong<br/>26:00 - The value *in* the journey<br/>33:00 - Your vested audience<br/>40:10 - Imperfections are not a bug<br/>47:12 - The A.I. aesthetic <br/>51:56 - The vault mentality<br/><br/>LINKS</p><ul><li>Interconnected.org - <a href='https://interconnected.org/home/2024/02/15/galactic-compass'>https://interconnected.org/home/2024/02/15/galactic-compass</a></li><li>Klarna - <a href='https://www.klarna.com/international/press/klarna-ai-assistant-handles-two-thirds-of-customer-service-chats-in-its-first-month/'>https://www.klarna.com/international/press/klarna-ai-assistant-handles-two-thirds-of-customer-service-chats-in-its-first-month/</a></li><li>Sora&apos;s Tokyo Walk -<a href=' https://cdn.openai.com/sora/videos/tokyo-walk.mp4'> https://cdn.openai.com/sora/videos/tokyo-walk.mp4</a></li><li>The OG Orginal Thinker - <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Feynman'>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Feynman</a></li><li>Kwebbelkop - <a href='https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BiV0lz_SQP4 '>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BiV0lz_SQP4 </a></li><li>Rick Deckard -<a href=' https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rick_Deckard'> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rick_Deckard</a></li><li>H.R. 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    <description><![CDATA[<p>This is Just a Model, the podcast on the <b>interstitium</b> of ethics, business, politics and citizenship.<br/><br/>Your hosts are Ron Kersic,  the humanistic architect of the future and the dorsal stream of tech and Peet Sneekes, creative strategist and hypothetical system thinker.<br/><br/>In this podcast we’ll be furiously interrogating the topics we select with the intent to peal away the veneer and focus on the essence. <br/><br/>If you experience value from this podcast, like information, entertainment, like a good dad joke, then you should return that value through your time, talent, and treasure. See our website and the show notes for more details.<br/><br/>CHAPTERS<br/><br/>Timecodes<br/>0:00 - Intro<br/>01:00 Intersection and Design<br/>10:00 Designing organisations<br/>18:40 The Vision Pro, (not so) Social Tools<br/>31:00 Keynote, Magic Move, delightful surprises<br/>35:00 What-if Disney...<br/>40:22 Malleable organisations<br/>43:00 Hypermedia storytelling<br/>52:00 Creativity and self-inflicted limitations<br/><br/>LINKS</p><ul><li><a href='https://intersectionbook.com/, https://www.enterprise.design/'>https://intersectionbook.com/, https://www.enterprise.design/</a></li><li><a href='https://www.designcouncil.org.uk/our-resources/the-double-diamond/'>https://www.designcouncil.org.uk/our-resources/the-double-diamond/</a></li><li><a href='https://www.nber.org/papers/w31980'>https://www.nber.org/papers/w31980</a></li><li><a href='https://megmittelstedt.substack.com/p/criti-hyp'>https://megmittelstedt.substack.com/p/criti-hyp</a></li><li><a href='https://www.amazon.com/Disney-Ran-Your-Hospital-Differently/dp/0974386014'>https://www.amazon.com/Disney-Ran-Your-Hospital-Differently/dp/0974386014</a></li><li><a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zork'>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zork</a></li></ul><p><br/>ABOUT US</p><ul><li>It&apos;s Just A Model podcast: <a href='https://itsjustamodel.com/'>https://itsjustamodel.com</a></li><li>Ron Kersic -  <a href='https://www.linkedin.com/in/ronkersic/'> https://www.linkedin.com/in/ronkersic// ronkersic  </a></li><li>Peet Sneekes  - <a href='https://peetsneekes.com/'>https://peetsneekes.com</a></li></ul><p><br/>SUBSCRIBE</p><ul><li> Youtube Podcast: <a href='https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLjUC6ASFJ_xyHn2bRhoAHx1vXirR3Im9Y&amp;si=uzcDK0cvst5MvjiW'>https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLjUC6ASFJ_xyHn2bRhoAHx1vXirR3Im9Y&amp;si=uzcDK0cvst5MvjiW</a></li><li>Podcasting 2.0 <a href='https://podcastindex.org/podcast/6790883'>https://podcastindex.org/podcast/6790883</a></li><li>Spotify <a href='https://open.spotify.com/show/3KQkzgWKYITlxEcT1BGEd4?si=f22d96f479ff4bd1'>https://open.spotify.com/show/3KQkzgWKYITlxEcT1BGEd4?si=f22d96f479ff4bd1</a></li><li>Apple Podcast <a href='https://podcasts.apple.com/nl/podcast/its-just-a-model/id1730230748?l=en-GB'>https://podcasts.apple.com/nl/podcast/its-just-a-model/id1730230748?l=en-GB</a></li><li>RSS <a href='https://feeds.buzzsprout.com/2300082.rss'>https://feeds.buzzsprout.com/2300082.rss</a></li></ul><p><b>ABOUT US</b></p><ul><li>It&apos;s Just A Model podcast: <a href='https://itsjustamodel.com/'>https://itsjustamodel.com</a></li><li>Ron Kersic -  <a href='https://www.linkedin.com/in/ronkersic/'> https://www.linkedin.com/in/ronkersic// ronkersic  </a></li><li>Peet Sneekes  - <a href='https://peetsneekes.com/'>https://peetsneekes.com</a></li></ul><p><b>SUBSCRIBE</b></p><ul><li> Youtube Podcast: <a href='https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLjUC6ASFJ_xyHn2bRhoAHx1vXirR3Im9Y&amp;si=uzcDK0cvst5MvjiW'>https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLjUC6ASFJ_xyHn2bRhoAHx1vXirR3Im9Y&amp;si=uzcDK0cvst5MvjiW</a></li><li>Podcasting 2.0 <a href='https://podcastindex.org/podcast/6790883'>https://podcastindex.org/podcast/6790883</a></li><li>Spotify <a href='https://open.spotify.com/show/3KQkzgWKYITlxEcT1BGEd4?si=f22d96f479ff4bd1'>https://open.spotify.com/show/3KQkzgWKYITlxEcT1BGEd4?si=f22d96f479ff4bd1</a></li><li>Apple Podcast <a href='https://podcasts.apple.com/nl/podcast/its-just-a-model/id1730230748?l=en-GB'>https://podcasts.apple.com/nl/podcast/its-just-a-model/id1730230748?l=en-GB</a></li><li>RSS <a href='https://feeds.buzzsprout.com/2300082.rss'>https://feeds.buzzsprout.com/2300082.rss</a></li></ul>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is Just a Model, the podcast on the <b>interstitium</b> of ethics, business, politics and citizenship.<br/><br/>Your hosts are Ron Kersic,  the humanistic architect of the future and the dorsal stream of tech and Peet Sneekes, creative strategist and hypothetical system thinker.<br/><br/>In this podcast we’ll be furiously interrogating the topics we select with the intent to peal away the veneer and focus on the essence. <br/><br/>If you experience value from this podcast, like information, entertainment, like a good dad joke, then you should return that value through your time, talent, and treasure. See our website and the show notes for more details.<br/><br/>CHAPTERS<br/><br/>Timecodes<br/>0:00 - Intro<br/>01:00 Intersection and Design<br/>10:00 Designing organisations<br/>18:40 The Vision Pro, (not so) Social Tools<br/>31:00 Keynote, Magic Move, delightful surprises<br/>35:00 What-if Disney...<br/>40:22 Malleable organisations<br/>43:00 Hypermedia storytelling<br/>52:00 Creativity and self-inflicted limitations<br/><br/>LINKS</p><ul><li><a href='https://intersectionbook.com/, https://www.enterprise.design/'>https://intersectionbook.com/, https://www.enterprise.design/</a></li><li><a href='https://www.designcouncil.org.uk/our-resources/the-double-diamond/'>https://www.designcouncil.org.uk/our-resources/the-double-diamond/</a></li><li><a href='https://www.nber.org/papers/w31980'>https://www.nber.org/papers/w31980</a></li><li><a href='https://megmittelstedt.substack.com/p/criti-hyp'>https://megmittelstedt.substack.com/p/criti-hyp</a></li><li><a href='https://www.amazon.com/Disney-Ran-Your-Hospital-Differently/dp/0974386014'>https://www.amazon.com/Disney-Ran-Your-Hospital-Differently/dp/0974386014</a></li><li><a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zork'>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zork</a></li></ul><p><br/>ABOUT US</p><ul><li>It&apos;s Just A Model podcast: <a href='https://itsjustamodel.com/'>https://itsjustamodel.com</a></li><li>Ron Kersic -  <a href='https://www.linkedin.com/in/ronkersic/'> https://www.linkedin.com/in/ronkersic// ronkersic  </a></li><li>Peet Sneekes  - <a href='https://peetsneekes.com/'>https://peetsneekes.com</a></li></ul><p><br/>SUBSCRIBE</p><ul><li> Youtube Podcast: <a href='https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLjUC6ASFJ_xyHn2bRhoAHx1vXirR3Im9Y&amp;si=uzcDK0cvst5MvjiW'>https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLjUC6ASFJ_xyHn2bRhoAHx1vXirR3Im9Y&amp;si=uzcDK0cvst5MvjiW</a></li><li>Podcasting 2.0 <a href='https://podcastindex.org/podcast/6790883'>https://podcastindex.org/podcast/6790883</a></li><li>Spotify <a href='https://open.spotify.com/show/3KQkzgWKYITlxEcT1BGEd4?si=f22d96f479ff4bd1'>https://open.spotify.com/show/3KQkzgWKYITlxEcT1BGEd4?si=f22d96f479ff4bd1</a></li><li>Apple Podcast <a href='https://podcasts.apple.com/nl/podcast/its-just-a-model/id1730230748?l=en-GB'>https://podcasts.apple.com/nl/podcast/its-just-a-model/id1730230748?l=en-GB</a></li><li>RSS <a href='https://feeds.buzzsprout.com/2300082.rss'>https://feeds.buzzsprout.com/2300082.rss</a></li></ul><p><b>ABOUT US</b></p><ul><li>It&apos;s Just A Model podcast: <a href='https://itsjustamodel.com/'>https://itsjustamodel.com</a></li><li>Ron Kersic -  <a href='https://www.linkedin.com/in/ronkersic/'> https://www.linkedin.com/in/ronkersic// ronkersic  </a></li><li>Peet Sneekes  - <a href='https://peetsneekes.com/'>https://peetsneekes.com</a></li></ul><p><b>SUBSCRIBE</b></p><ul><li> Youtube Podcast: <a href='https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLjUC6ASFJ_xyHn2bRhoAHx1vXirR3Im9Y&amp;si=uzcDK0cvst5MvjiW'>https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLjUC6ASFJ_xyHn2bRhoAHx1vXirR3Im9Y&amp;si=uzcDK0cvst5MvjiW</a></li><li>Podcasting 2.0 <a href='https://podcastindex.org/podcast/6790883'>https://podcastindex.org/podcast/6790883</a></li><li>Spotify <a href='https://open.spotify.com/show/3KQkzgWKYITlxEcT1BGEd4?si=f22d96f479ff4bd1'>https://open.spotify.com/show/3KQkzgWKYITlxEcT1BGEd4?si=f22d96f479ff4bd1</a></li><li>Apple Podcast <a href='https://podcasts.apple.com/nl/podcast/its-just-a-model/id1730230748?l=en-GB'>https://podcasts.apple.com/nl/podcast/its-just-a-model/id1730230748?l=en-GB</a></li><li>RSS <a href='https://feeds.buzzsprout.com/2300082.rss'>https://feeds.buzzsprout.com/2300082.rss</a></li></ul>]]></content:encoded>
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    <description><![CDATA[<p>This is Just a Model, the podcast on the <b>interstitium</b> of making, beauty, design, the nerdy and the wonderful.  <br/><br/>Your hosts are Ron Kersic,  transitional tech architect and Rubergian storyteller and Peet Sneekes, kinetic thinker and  holistic innovator. <br/><br/>In this podcast we’ll be investigating stories with a relentless curiosity and honesty, so we can learn the underlying, the interstitial, the unintended ramification . <br/><br/>If you experience value from this podcast, like information, entertainment, like a good dad joke, then please return that value through your time, talent, and treasure. See our website and the show notes for more details.<br/><br/>CHAPTERS<br/><br/>Timecodes<br/>0:00 - Intro<br/>01:52 - It’s *not* the time to build (anymore)<br/>07:25 - Not having Silicon Valley questions (anymore)<br/>10:24 - Hackable technology 👈 **Note**: could leave this out<br/>15:54 - The End of the Beginning of Technology<br/>20:47 - It’s just a platform<br/>24:34 - Find that undiscovered country<br/>38:26 - The genius is in the scene<br/>44:14 - Overton Window of Tech<br/>51:05 - Crafting instead of Consuming<br/>57:27 - Wrap up<br/><br/>LINKS<br/>- Studebaker:<a href=' https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Studebaker'> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Studebaker</a><br/>- The End of Coding: <a href='https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l222fIkesAY'>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l222fIkesAY</a><br/>- Pokimane: <a href='https://www.dexerto.com/kick/will-pokimane-stream-on-kick-claims-of-massive-75m-deal-go-viral-2508765/'>https://www.dexerto.com/kick/will-pokimane-stream-on-kick-claims-of-massive-75m-deal-go-viral-2508765/</a><br/>- Joe Rogan:<a href=' https://www.nbcnews.com/media/spotify-joe-rogan-new-deal-rcna136997'> https://www.nbcnews.com/media/spotify-joe-rogan-new-deal-rcna136997</a><br/>- The Morioka Shoten bookstore: <a href='https://bookriot.com/japanese-bookstore-morioka-shoten/'>https://bookriot.com/japanese-bookstore-morioka-shoten/</a><br/>- Brian Eno’s Scenius: <a href='https://kk.org/thetechnium/scenius-or-comm/'>https://kk.org/thetechnium/scenius-or-comm/</a><br/>- Payment Service Directive: <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Payment_Services_Directive'>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Payment_Services_Directive</a><br/>- Overton Window: <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overton_window'>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overton_window</a><br/>- It’s time to build: <a href='https://a16z.com/its-time-to-build/'>https://a16z.com/its-time-to-build/</a><br/>- Origin of the hashtag: <a href='https://buffer.com/resources/a-concise-history-of-twitter-hashtags-and-how-you-should-use-them-properly/'>https://buffer.com/resources/a-concise-history-of-twitter-hashtags-and-how-you-should-use-them-properly/</a><br/>- IKEA Hackers: <a href='https://ikeahackers.net/'>https://ikeahackers.net/</a><br/><br/>ABOUT US<br/>- It&apos;s Just A Model podcast: <a href='https://itsjustamodel.com'>https://itsjustamodel.com</a><br/>- Ron Kersic -  <a href='https://www.linkedin.com/in/ronkersic/'> https://www.linkedin.com/in/ronkersic// ronkersic  </a><br/>- Peet Sneekes  - <a href='https://peetsneekes.com'>https://peetsneekes.com</a><br/><br/>SUBSCRIBE<br/>- Youtube Podcast: <a href='https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLjUC6ASFJ_xyHn2bRhoAHx1vXirR3Im9Y&amp;si=uzcDK0cvst5MvjiW'>https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLjUC6ASFJ_xyHn2bRhoAHx1vXirR3Im9Y&amp;si=uzcDK0cvst5MvjiW</a><br/>- Podcasting 2.0 <a href='https://podcastindex.org/podcast/6790883'>https://podcastindex.org/podcast/6790883</a><br/>- Spotify <a href='https://open.spotify.com/show/3KQkzgWKYITlxEcT1BGEd4?si=f22d96f479ff4bd1'>https://open.spotify.com/show/3KQkzgWKYITlxEcT1BGEd4?si=f22d96f479ff4bd1</a><br/>- Apple Podcast <a href='https://podcasts.apple.com/nl/podcast/its-just-a-model/id1730230748?l=en-GB'>https://podcasts.apple.com/nl/podcast/its-just-a-model/id1730230748?l=en-GB</a><br/>- RSS <a href='https://feeds.buzzsprout.com/2300082.rss'>https://feeds.buzzsprout.com/2300082.rss</a></p><p><b>ABOUT US</b></p><ul><li>It&apos;s Just A Model podcast: <a href='https://itsjustamodel.com/'>https://itsjustamodel.com</a></li><li>Ron Kersic -  <a href='https://www.linkedin.com/in/ronkersic/'> https://www.linkedin.com/in/ronkersic// ronkersic  </a></li><li>Peet Sneekes  - <a href='https://peetsneekes.com/'>https://peetsneekes.com</a></li></ul><p><b>SUBSCRIBE</b></p><ul><li> Youtube Podcast: <a href='https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLjUC6ASFJ_xyHn2bRhoAHx1vXirR3Im9Y&amp;si=uzcDK0cvst5MvjiW'>https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLjUC6ASFJ_xyHn2bRhoAHx1vXirR3Im9Y&amp;si=uzcDK0cvst5MvjiW</a></li><li>Podcasting 2.0 <a href='https://podcastindex.org/podcast/6790883'>https://podcastindex.org/podcast/6790883</a></li><li>Spotify <a href='https://open.spotify.com/show/3KQkzgWKYITlxEcT1BGEd4?si=f22d96f479ff4bd1'>https://open.spotify.com/show/3KQkzgWKYITlxEcT1BGEd4?si=f22d96f479ff4bd1</a></li><li>Apple Podcast <a href='https://podcasts.apple.com/nl/podcast/its-just-a-model/id1730230748?l=en-GB'>https://podcasts.apple.com/nl/podcast/its-just-a-model/id1730230748?l=en-GB</a></li><li>RSS <a href='https://feeds.buzzsprout.com/2300082.rss'>https://feeds.buzzsprout.com/2300082.rss</a></li></ul>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is Just a Model, the podcast on the <b>interstitium</b> of making, beauty, design, the nerdy and the wonderful.  <br/><br/>Your hosts are Ron Kersic,  transitional tech architect and Rubergian storyteller and Peet Sneekes, kinetic thinker and  holistic innovator. <br/><br/>In this podcast we’ll be investigating stories with a relentless curiosity and honesty, so we can learn the underlying, the interstitial, the unintended ramification . <br/><br/>If you experience value from this podcast, like information, entertainment, like a good dad joke, then please return that value through your time, talent, and treasure. See our website and the show notes for more details.<br/><br/>CHAPTERS<br/><br/>Timecodes<br/>0:00 - Intro<br/>01:52 - It’s *not* the time to build (anymore)<br/>07:25 - Not having Silicon Valley questions (anymore)<br/>10:24 - Hackable technology 👈 **Note**: could leave this out<br/>15:54 - The End of the Beginning of Technology<br/>20:47 - It’s just a platform<br/>24:34 - Find that undiscovered country<br/>38:26 - The genius is in the scene<br/>44:14 - Overton Window of Tech<br/>51:05 - Crafting instead of Consuming<br/>57:27 - Wrap up<br/><br/>LINKS<br/>- Studebaker:<a href=' https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Studebaker'> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Studebaker</a><br/>- The End of Coding: <a href='https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l222fIkesAY'>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l222fIkesAY</a><br/>- Pokimane: <a href='https://www.dexerto.com/kick/will-pokimane-stream-on-kick-claims-of-massive-75m-deal-go-viral-2508765/'>https://www.dexerto.com/kick/will-pokimane-stream-on-kick-claims-of-massive-75m-deal-go-viral-2508765/</a><br/>- Joe Rogan:<a href=' https://www.nbcnews.com/media/spotify-joe-rogan-new-deal-rcna136997'> https://www.nbcnews.com/media/spotify-joe-rogan-new-deal-rcna136997</a><br/>- The Morioka Shoten bookstore: <a href='https://bookriot.com/japanese-bookstore-morioka-shoten/'>https://bookriot.com/japanese-bookstore-morioka-shoten/</a><br/>- Brian Eno’s Scenius: <a href='https://kk.org/thetechnium/scenius-or-comm/'>https://kk.org/thetechnium/scenius-or-comm/</a><br/>- Payment Service Directive: <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Payment_Services_Directive'>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Payment_Services_Directive</a><br/>- Overton Window: <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overton_window'>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overton_window</a><br/>- It’s time to build: <a href='https://a16z.com/its-time-to-build/'>https://a16z.com/its-time-to-build/</a><br/>- Origin of the hashtag: <a href='https://buffer.com/resources/a-concise-history-of-twitter-hashtags-and-how-you-should-use-them-properly/'>https://buffer.com/resources/a-concise-history-of-twitter-hashtags-and-how-you-should-use-them-properly/</a><br/>- IKEA Hackers: <a href='https://ikeahackers.net/'>https://ikeahackers.net/</a><br/><br/>ABOUT US<br/>- It&apos;s Just A Model podcast: <a href='https://itsjustamodel.com'>https://itsjustamodel.com</a><br/>- Ron Kersic -  <a href='https://www.linkedin.com/in/ronkersic/'> https://www.linkedin.com/in/ronkersic// ronkersic  </a><br/>- Peet Sneekes  - <a href='https://peetsneekes.com'>https://peetsneekes.com</a><br/><br/>SUBSCRIBE<br/>- Youtube Podcast: <a href='https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLjUC6ASFJ_xyHn2bRhoAHx1vXirR3Im9Y&amp;si=uzcDK0cvst5MvjiW'>https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLjUC6ASFJ_xyHn2bRhoAHx1vXirR3Im9Y&amp;si=uzcDK0cvst5MvjiW</a><br/>- Podcasting 2.0 <a href='https://podcastindex.org/podcast/6790883'>https://podcastindex.org/podcast/6790883</a><br/>- Spotify <a href='https://open.spotify.com/show/3KQkzgWKYITlxEcT1BGEd4?si=f22d96f479ff4bd1'>https://open.spotify.com/show/3KQkzgWKYITlxEcT1BGEd4?si=f22d96f479ff4bd1</a><br/>- Apple Podcast <a href='https://podcasts.apple.com/nl/podcast/its-just-a-model/id1730230748?l=en-GB'>https://podcasts.apple.com/nl/podcast/its-just-a-model/id1730230748?l=en-GB</a><br/>- RSS <a href='https://feeds.buzzsprout.com/2300082.rss'>https://feeds.buzzsprout.com/2300082.rss</a></p><p><b>ABOUT US</b></p><ul><li>It&apos;s Just A Model podcast: <a href='https://itsjustamodel.com/'>https://itsjustamodel.com</a></li><li>Ron Kersic -  <a href='https://www.linkedin.com/in/ronkersic/'> https://www.linkedin.com/in/ronkersic// ronkersic  </a></li><li>Peet Sneekes  - <a href='https://peetsneekes.com/'>https://peetsneekes.com</a></li></ul><p><b>SUBSCRIBE</b></p><ul><li> Youtube Podcast: <a href='https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLjUC6ASFJ_xyHn2bRhoAHx1vXirR3Im9Y&amp;si=uzcDK0cvst5MvjiW'>https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLjUC6ASFJ_xyHn2bRhoAHx1vXirR3Im9Y&amp;si=uzcDK0cvst5MvjiW</a></li><li>Podcasting 2.0 <a href='https://podcastindex.org/podcast/6790883'>https://podcastindex.org/podcast/6790883</a></li><li>Spotify <a href='https://open.spotify.com/show/3KQkzgWKYITlxEcT1BGEd4?si=f22d96f479ff4bd1'>https://open.spotify.com/show/3KQkzgWKYITlxEcT1BGEd4?si=f22d96f479ff4bd1</a></li><li>Apple Podcast <a href='https://podcasts.apple.com/nl/podcast/its-just-a-model/id1730230748?l=en-GB'>https://podcasts.apple.com/nl/podcast/its-just-a-model/id1730230748?l=en-GB</a></li><li>RSS <a href='https://feeds.buzzsprout.com/2300082.rss'>https://feeds.buzzsprout.com/2300082.rss</a></li></ul>]]></content:encoded>
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    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[It's Just A Model is a podcast on the interstitium of systems, society, ethics, ecosystems, business, behavior, discovery and progression.   Your hosts Ron Kersic and Peet Sneekes talk about the underpinnings of modern business, society, innovation, communication and design.  In this podcast we’ll be asking questions about stories where we feel like people don’t touch upon the true narrative, cause, the why, or the reason why the thing it’s like it is.   This is a value for value podcast. Tha...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p>It&apos;s Just A Model is a podcast on the interstitium of systems, society, ethics, ecosystems, business, behavior, discovery and progression. <br/><br/>Your hosts Ron Kersic and Peet Sneekes talk about the underpinnings of modern business, society, innovation, communication and design.<br/><br/>In this podcast we’ll be asking questions about stories where we feel like people don’t touch upon the true narrative, cause, the why, or the reason why the thing it’s like it is. <br/><br/>This is a value for value podcast. That means, if you experience value from this podcast, like information, entertainment, a good dad joke, anything, you may decide to return that value through time, talent, treasure. See https://itsjustamodel.com and the show notes for more details.<br/><br/>CHAPTERS<br/>02:00 - How this got started<br/>04:34 - Stochastic Rabbits<br/>20:26 - AI: Calm and Ambient<br/>28:10 - Biases, Models, and Better Decisions<br/>32:50 - The Rabbit’s Ploy: Humane AI<br/>43:47 - Photorealistic AI: Can we cope?<br/><br/>LINKS<br/>- Interstitium: https://orionmagazine.org/article/interstitium-scientific-discovery-anatomy<br/>- Rabbit r1: <a href='https://www.rabbit.tech/'>https://www.rabbit.tech/</a><br/>- Bran van der Mee: https://www.youtube.com/@branvandermeer<br/>- Benedict Evans: https://www.ben-evans.com/<br/>- Calm Technology: <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calm_technology'>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calm_technology</a><br/><br/>ABOUT US<br/>- It&apos;s Just A Model podcast: https://itsjustamodel.com<br/>- Ron Kersic - https://www.linkedin.com/in/ronkersic/<br/>- Peet Sneekes  - https://peetsneekes.com<br/><br/>SUBSCRIBE<br/>- Youtube Podcast: <a href='https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLjUC6ASFJ_xyHn2bRhoAHx1vXirR3Im9Y&amp;si=uzcDK0cvst5MvjiW'>https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLjUC6ASFJ_xyHn2bRhoAHx1vXirR3Im9Y&amp;si=uzcDK0cvst5MvjiW</a><br/>- Podcasting 2.0 <a href='https://podcastindex.org/podcast/6790883'>https://podcastindex.org/podcast/6790883</a><br/>- Spotify <a href='https://open.spotify.com/show/3KQkzgWKYITlxEcT1BGEd4?si=f22d96f479ff4bd1'>https://open.spotify.com/show/3KQkzgWKYITlxEcT1BGEd4?si=f22d96f479ff4bd1</a><br/>- Apple Podcast<a href=' https://podcasts.apple.com/nl/podcast/its-just-a-model/id1730230748?l=en-GB'> https://podcasts.apple.com/nl/podcast/its-just-a-model/id1730230748?l=en-GB</a><br/>- RSS <a href='https://feeds.buzzsprout.com/2300082.rss'>https://feeds.buzzsprout.com/2300082.rss</a></p><p><b>ABOUT US</b></p><ul><li>It&apos;s Just A Model podcast: <a href='https://itsjustamodel.com/'>https://itsjustamodel.com</a></li><li>Ron Kersic -  <a href='https://www.linkedin.com/in/ronkersic/'> https://www.linkedin.com/in/ronkersic// ronkersic  </a></li><li>Peet Sneekes  - <a href='https://peetsneekes.com/'>https://peetsneekes.com</a></li></ul><p><b>SUBSCRIBE</b></p><ul><li> Youtube Podcast: <a href='https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLjUC6ASFJ_xyHn2bRhoAHx1vXirR3Im9Y&amp;si=uzcDK0cvst5MvjiW'>https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLjUC6ASFJ_xyHn2bRhoAHx1vXirR3Im9Y&amp;si=uzcDK0cvst5MvjiW</a></li><li>Podcasting 2.0 <a href='https://podcastindex.org/podcast/6790883'>https://podcastindex.org/podcast/6790883</a></li><li>Spotify <a href='https://open.spotify.com/show/3KQkzgWKYITlxEcT1BGEd4?si=f22d96f479ff4bd1'>https://open.spotify.com/show/3KQkzgWKYITlxEcT1BGEd4?si=f22d96f479ff4bd1</a></li><li>Apple Podcast <a href='https://podcasts.apple.com/nl/podcast/its-just-a-model/id1730230748?l=en-GB'>https://podcasts.apple.com/nl/podcast/its-just-a-model/id1730230748?l=en-GB</a></li><li>RSS <a href='https://feeds.buzzsprout.com/2300082.rss'>https://feeds.buzzsprout.com/2300082.rss</a></li></ul>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&apos;s Just A Model is a podcast on the interstitium of systems, society, ethics, ecosystems, business, behavior, discovery and progression. <br/><br/>Your hosts Ron Kersic and Peet Sneekes talk about the underpinnings of modern business, society, innovation, communication and design.<br/><br/>In this podcast we’ll be asking questions about stories where we feel like people don’t touch upon the true narrative, cause, the why, or the reason why the thing it’s like it is. <br/><br/>This is a value for value podcast. That means, if you experience value from this podcast, like information, entertainment, a good dad joke, anything, you may decide to return that value through time, talent, treasure. See https://itsjustamodel.com and the show notes for more details.<br/><br/>CHAPTERS<br/>02:00 - How this got started<br/>04:34 - Stochastic Rabbits<br/>20:26 - AI: Calm and Ambient<br/>28:10 - Biases, Models, and Better Decisions<br/>32:50 - The Rabbit’s Ploy: Humane AI<br/>43:47 - Photorealistic AI: Can we cope?<br/><br/>LINKS<br/>- Interstitium: https://orionmagazine.org/article/interstitium-scientific-discovery-anatomy<br/>- Rabbit r1: <a href='https://www.rabbit.tech/'>https://www.rabbit.tech/</a><br/>- Bran van der Mee: https://www.youtube.com/@branvandermeer<br/>- Benedict Evans: https://www.ben-evans.com/<br/>- Calm Technology: <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calm_technology'>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calm_technology</a><br/><br/>ABOUT US<br/>- It&apos;s Just A Model podcast: https://itsjustamodel.com<br/>- Ron Kersic - https://www.linkedin.com/in/ronkersic/<br/>- Peet Sneekes  - https://peetsneekes.com<br/><br/>SUBSCRIBE<br/>- Youtube Podcast: <a href='https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLjUC6ASFJ_xyHn2bRhoAHx1vXirR3Im9Y&amp;si=uzcDK0cvst5MvjiW'>https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLjUC6ASFJ_xyHn2bRhoAHx1vXirR3Im9Y&amp;si=uzcDK0cvst5MvjiW</a><br/>- Podcasting 2.0 <a href='https://podcastindex.org/podcast/6790883'>https://podcastindex.org/podcast/6790883</a><br/>- Spotify <a href='https://open.spotify.com/show/3KQkzgWKYITlxEcT1BGEd4?si=f22d96f479ff4bd1'>https://open.spotify.com/show/3KQkzgWKYITlxEcT1BGEd4?si=f22d96f479ff4bd1</a><br/>- Apple Podcast<a href=' https://podcasts.apple.com/nl/podcast/its-just-a-model/id1730230748?l=en-GB'> https://podcasts.apple.com/nl/podcast/its-just-a-model/id1730230748?l=en-GB</a><br/>- RSS <a href='https://feeds.buzzsprout.com/2300082.rss'>https://feeds.buzzsprout.com/2300082.rss</a></p><p><b>ABOUT US</b></p><ul><li>It&apos;s Just A Model podcast: <a href='https://itsjustamodel.com/'>https://itsjustamodel.com</a></li><li>Ron Kersic -  <a href='https://www.linkedin.com/in/ronkersic/'> https://www.linkedin.com/in/ronkersic// ronkersic  </a></li><li>Peet Sneekes  - <a href='https://peetsneekes.com/'>https://peetsneekes.com</a></li></ul><p><b>SUBSCRIBE</b></p><ul><li> Youtube Podcast: <a href='https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLjUC6ASFJ_xyHn2bRhoAHx1vXirR3Im9Y&amp;si=uzcDK0cvst5MvjiW'>https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLjUC6ASFJ_xyHn2bRhoAHx1vXirR3Im9Y&amp;si=uzcDK0cvst5MvjiW</a></li><li>Podcasting 2.0 <a href='https://podcastindex.org/podcast/6790883'>https://podcastindex.org/podcast/6790883</a></li><li>Spotify <a href='https://open.spotify.com/show/3KQkzgWKYITlxEcT1BGEd4?si=f22d96f479ff4bd1'>https://open.spotify.com/show/3KQkzgWKYITlxEcT1BGEd4?si=f22d96f479ff4bd1</a></li><li>Apple Podcast <a href='https://podcasts.apple.com/nl/podcast/its-just-a-model/id1730230748?l=en-GB'>https://podcasts.apple.com/nl/podcast/its-just-a-model/id1730230748?l=en-GB</a></li><li>RSS <a href='https://feeds.buzzsprout.com/2300082.rss'>https://feeds.buzzsprout.com/2300082.rss</a></li></ul>]]></content:encoded>
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