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What Is Occultism? w/ Denis Poisson (Foolish Fish)

Thu, 11 Jun 2026 20:00:00 -0400

Denis Poisson guides people through the world of the Occult. His YouTube channel Foolish Fish has helped hundreds of thousands of people wrap their minds around the Western Mysteries, and now, he’s come onto the show.

He acquaints us with the basics of Occultism and even points out easy (and practical) steps to begin your journey into real, actual magic.

Find more of his work at the Foolish Fish website: https://www.foolishfish.net/

The Foolish Fish YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@FoolishFishBooks

The books Denis recommends:

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Psychedelics for the Dying w/ Christine Caldwell

Thu, 04 Jun 2026 11:00:00 -0400

Christine Caldwell talks using psychedelics to work with those facing death. Through her non-profit End-of-Life Psychedelic Care (EOLPC), she supports the popularization and research of this breakthrough approach to death work.

She talks to us about their current home-based ketamine pilot, why these medicines are so potent in this stage of care, and so much more. Her insights take us deep into what it means to be conscious, human, and, if only temporarily, alive.

Find her work at EOLPC: https://eolpc.org/
Email her directly: christine@eolpc.org
Check out the official EOLPC YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@end-of-life-psychedelic-care

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Make the Most of Ketamine Therapy w/ Anna Krishtal

Thu, 28 May 2026 12:00:00 -0400

Anna Krishtal is a ketamine coach and host of the Ketamine Connections podcast. She joins us to talk the ins and outs of ketamine, the compound at the forefront of the psychedelic renaissance.

Ketamine is the leading chemical used in legal psychedelic therapy in the US, and it's widely considered as one of the most versatile, effective, and direct tools available to improve mental health. But as Anna emphasizes, getting the highest potential out of Ketamine requires intention going in and integration coming out.

We get to all of it: the basics of Ketamine (like what it is and what it is like to take), how to make the most of your journey (the power of intention and integration), and how this drug has personally impacted Anna.

You can work with Anna Krishtal yourself by going to her website:

https://www.annakrishtal.com/

Find the Ketamine Connections podcast at:

Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/ketamine-connections/id1761921460
Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0hmz28ReQnEjszOcAQUj87
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@KetamineConnections

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Explore Feminine Leadership w/ Martje Witzel

Fri, 22 May 2026 10:00:00 -0400

Martje Witzel is a leader in the Relational Arts movement. And on this episode, she comes back onto The Container to talk about feminine leadership.

What is the special wisdom in the vessel? How can vision, holding, and space making transform? Is it possible to define feminine leadership outside of a comparison with masculine leadership?

It's this and so much more on this episode!

If you'd like to work with Martje, you can email her directly at: info@all-there-is.com

Check out her website: https://www.all-there-is.com/

See her previous episodes with us here:
https://youtu.be/rBEi18_mkVk?si=Tjx_PzxXUqYxYd6T
https://youtu.be/fK_SfqAadK0?si=WZU3vRubS4qmxqqK

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Access Spiritual Powers (Then Go Beyond Them) w/ Frank Elaridi

Thu, 14 May 2026 14:00:00 -0400

Frank Elaridi began his career as a journalist, going on to win four Emmys and covering everything from forest fires to celebrities. But then, he struck out on his own to spread the story of mysterious practitioners who are able to see while blindfolded. That began an odyssey into the strange world of spiritual powers where he ended up becoming a healer himself.

Today, his podcast Quite Frankly gets millions of downloads and his energy healing helps everything from physical illnesses to relationships to mental and spiritual wellbeing.

You can find all of his work on his website: https://frankelaridi.com/

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Author Faces Parkinson's w/ Stephen Jenkinson

Thu, 07 May 2026 11:00:00 -0400

Stephen Jenkinson is a culture activist and author who brings together ceremony, music, and story. His much-loved book Die Wise taught us how to face that hardest of topics: death. In 2024, he was diagnosed with Parkinson's disease. Now, in his new book Trembling Still, he captures in intimate detail his path with the illness.

You can find his work at Orphan Wisdom (https://orphanwisdom.com/).

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How Spirituality, Politics, and Philosophy Shape Reality w/ C. Derick Varn

Fri, 01 May 2026 08:00:00 -0400

C. Derick Varn is a poet, philosopher, and podcaster (among so much else). He comes on The Container to talk about how we make reality. Spoiler alert: it's a mixture of spirit, mind, history, politics, and so on. In particular, he helps us understand why the political left broke off from spirituality. We even talk a little bit about how to enchant the incredible theoretical work of Marx and those he later influenced.

Varn gives us so much rich context to chew on. And we're even more excited because Varn is a long-time podcasting hero of Jonathan's, so that makes it all the more fun and rewarding.

Find Varn's incredible work at:

His YouTube channel VarnVlog (https://www.youtube.com/@VarnVlog)
His Patreon (https://www.patreon.com/cw/varnvlog)

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The Relating Arts (R)evolution w/ Peter Munthe-Kaas

Thu, 23 Apr 2026 10:00:00 -0400

The Relating Arts teach us how to engage with ourselves, each other, and the world in a more conscious way. So, what would happen if we grew these practices at scale?

Peter Munthe-Kaas comes on The Container to talk about just that. His Relating Arts project gathers these kinds of practices into a single, easy to use space. It's beautiful, too!

[There is an audio issue on this episode with Jonathan's mic. We had a discussion and everything is better now, thank you.]

Get your links!

The Relating Arts website: https://relatingarts.com/
Peter's personal website: https://www.petermunthekaas.com/
The Relating Arts YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCd-hWIMdkXdC__g3w3c0ltQ

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The Big Rebirth Is Coming

Tue, 14 Apr 2026 21:00:00 -0400

The rebirth of humanity is upon us. Everywhere you look, people are participating in something big. The renewable energy revolution. The rise of urban agriculture. The return of God and enchantment.

All over the place, we find signs that humanity is about to undergo a cultural, spiritual, and economic revival and renaissance.

But here's the thing: we have to be the ones to do it.

We can't wait for others. It has to be us.

A bit of an odd episode, but one that really comes from the heart.

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Energy Healer on Your Hidden Abilities w/ Lubaina Choudhury

Wed, 08 Apr 2026 12:00:00 -0400

Lubaina Choudhury is a powerful energy healer with a hands-on, in-depth knowledge of how to care for and operate this magnificent human body.

Her background is in Eastern traditions like yoga. But her mentor delivered high impact teachings from the Kabbalah, a fundamental force in Western Occultism. Now, she blends East and West (along with her own inherent gifts and honed skills) into a healing modality that far surpasses what we are told is possible.

In this episode, she talks to us about her path and how her power to heal informs her view of the universe and daily life. We come away with a far richer understanding of how to inhabit this strange realm we call reality.

If you’d like to work with her (she does do long-distance healing over Zoom!) you can find her:

At her website www.lifeishealing.net
On her podcast Life is Healing with Lubaina

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Awaken Through Poetry w/ Will Jefferson

Wed, 01 Apr 2026 18:00:00 -0400

Will Jefferson is a writer, coach, and facilitator who brings poetry into vivid connection and conversation with everyday life.

Interested in his Poetry of the Everyday course? Use promo code ‘container’ for 20% off!

It starts Tuesday, April 28. But spots will go fast, so be sure to sign up today.

Go to: https://www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/the-poetry-of-the-everyday-6-week-online-course-registration-1986201370767

For more of Will’s work, check out: https://willjefferson.com

Some of the poems we talked about:

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You Forgot You're Already a Mystic w/ Mareike Christensen

Wed, 25 Mar 2026 17:00:00 -0400

The Container is launching a new adventure: Mystical Creatures.

On this journey, Jonathan and Marei are going to deep dive into mystical practice, that collection of tools that bring us into radical union with the sacred. Call it God, why don’t you?

In this conversation, Marei talks about her life, how she began to notice something strange was going on, and how you can begin to reclaim your birthright as a mystical creature.

Near the end, Marei even teaches us some pointers we can use to drop into a more unitive state of presence.

To get coaching from Marei and find out more about events she is leading, check out here website here: https://www.intopresence.se/

You can also contact her directly at: kmareikec@gmail.com

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Tools for Awakening w/ Daniel Schmidt

Thu, 19 Mar 2026 19:00:00 -0400

Daniel Schmidt, the documentarian behind the fantastic Samadhi film series, shares the best practices he's found for spiritual awakening. This includes the ones used in the Samadhi Center's 7-Day I AM Retreat.

We touch on meditation, psychedelics, and even relating practices (like Charles Berner's two-person method of self-inquiry). But most of all, we investigate how any spiritual tool for awakening might be used on the Pathless Path.

Schmidt's wide-ranging interests and masterful way of communicating esoteric spiritual wisdom makes for a deeply rewarding conversation. And it's wonderful getting to hear the voice behind so many great films responding to questions!

You can find his work at:

Awaken the World (https://awakentheworld.com/)
Awaken the World YouTube Channel (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCmzsYSXn3zdCsLS063oCt8w)
7-Day IAM Retreat (https://awakentheworld.com/onlineretreats/)

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What is Stemless? w/ Harmony, James, and Sahil

Thu, 05 Mar 2026 17:00:00 -0500

Stemless is a radical new entry to the world of the relational arts, mindfulness, and social meditation. It takes us out into uncharted waters, where we use skillful projection to wake us up and make vital contact with how we create our reality.

We brought the entire founding team on to talk about what Stemless is, how it came from and builds off of Circling, and what you can expect when you jam with this new practice.

(BTW, welcome back James to the pod. We recently had him one for Episode 79 with Month of Potential.)

Check them out here:

Their website (https://stemless.org/)
Their MUST READ Substack (https://stemless.substack.com/)
Their WhatsApp for updates on online and in-person events (https://chat.whatsapp.com/CMrtH2sjSNB2DPH1Q4crFY?mode=ac_t)

Here is a blurb from the Stemless team to learn more:

‘Stemless’ is a relational presence practice where we connect via direct transmission of our rich inner experience without explanation. We aim to glimpse and own not just our arising feelings but our overall perceptions.

As a group or in pairs, we share what’s happening between us in the here and now, free of violence (meaning: deeply owned). To start off, we practice using overt sentence stems, being careful to use language that doesn’t crowd anyone else’s experience (eg. “This is just my story, but I think you might be angry?”).

Then comes ‘stemless’, where we open toward the more mysterious space where all projections can be recognized as inherently toothless. Without overt management, even an expression like “You’re the devil!” can be, paradoxically, conflict-free. It becomes just another beautiful opportunity to meet in connection.

Past participants have said the practice is psychedelic, pointless, deeply connecting and alive, endlessly frustrating, what do I do with all this freedom!? and “the most important relating practice that I know of, in the world.”

We find intimacy in truth by foregrounding the often-unsayable stories we’re constantly inventing about ourselves and each other. Our notion of connection is not in achieving a shared understanding of who or what we are. Rather, we attempt to lucid dream in our waking lives: to catch ourselves in the act of inventing the characters we see (and imagine ourselves to be).

Feelings of connection might come, but they are not the goal, and this might feel awkward or weird at times. Participants will likely feel dropped or unacknowledged, at times or often. You will hopefully also experience a kaleidoscopic tilting of your world’s dream logic; laughter; insight; and a taste of our passion for this practice. A meditative practice of surrendering to reality expressing itself through each of us in every moment.

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The Circle Is a Reality Playground w/ Andrew Venezia

Wed, 18 Feb 2026 07:00:00 -0500

The brilliant Andrew Venezia comes on the podcast to talk about the many layers of Circling. He takes us from the basics of an interbeing practice to deep insights into the nature of reality itself. It's a mind-bending episode, but it's always grounded in Andrew's warmth and openness to the questions themselves.

You can work with Andrew by visiting his website here: https://www.andrewlouisvenezia.life/
You can also go right ahead and book a conversation with him here: https://www.andrewlouisvenezia.life/schedule-a-psychoactive-conversation

Also, you'll notice we have a new theme song! That comes from The Purples!

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Circling and the Occult w/ Ben Hodgson

Wed, 04 Feb 2026 07:00:00 -0500

Can circling bring us into deep mystical and magical practice? Certainly, yes. And Ben Hodgson comes into The Container to tell us just exactly how that might work. He also gives us a delightful account of his magical journey.

Oh, did I mention we talk about the Kabbalah, ritual magic, and insanity?

It’s that kind of discussion.

You can work with Ben at Transformational Connection.

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Starting a Conscious Community w/ MoP

Wed, 21 Jan 2026 07:00:00 -0500

The Month of Potential (MoP) experiments with living in radical connection. Using the practice of circling as the foundation, they recently spent a month living and working together fully engaged in relational practice.

They share their experiences, challenges, insights, and plans for the future. They even give tips and insights (and invites) to people who want to go on similar journeys.

You can find documentation of their work here: https://publish.obsidian.md/potential/

If you would like to learn more about their work as individuals, reach out to them using the links below:

Emma van den Boogert

Emma van den Boogert works with individuals and groups to cultivate collective fields of connection, where people feel deeply seen, attune to the deeper intelligence moving them, and step into their highest potential. She's passionate about integrating the personal, interpersonal, and systemic, and holding the space where breakdown and breakthrough unfold. Drawing on Political Science, Nonviolent Communication, and practices like Parts Work and Transformational Connection, she facilitates The Singing Field, coaches life and career professionally, and contributes to networks and communities of conscious global changemakers - including Living Cities Earth, Love Organized and the Syntropy Network - supporting those willing to truly listen and act from emerging possibility.

Website: https://www.emmavandenboogert.com/

Noor Al-Hashemi

I am drawn to the mysterious caves and deep-sea lagoons buried deep in the fabric of our beings. Devoted to cultivating the precision and humility needed to listen for the very subtle parts of our experience, to give life to them and allow them to move us.

Based in London, I lead Transformational Connection and work 1-1 online with those who want to dive into the depths together.

You can read more and book in a session at circlingwithnoor.com
or send me an email at circlingwithnoor@gmail.com

James Brown

Relational coach, lay therapist, group facilitator and leader.

Supporting you to connect, accept and stand, with love and honesty.

Relational coaching at - https://jameswonders.uk/
Group facilitator and non-duality practice at - https://stemless.org/

Luz Quiñonero

Luz works with people who feel disconnected - from themselves, their relationships, or their sense of purpose - to develop relational awareness and create the meaningful, conscious connections they desire.

https://luzquinonero.com/

Nick Hayes

Nick helps relational and presence-based practitioners move beyond insight and self discovery, into sovereign creator-ship of their whole world.

You can learn more about him here: https://nickhayes.me/

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The Ultimate Group Transformation Process w/ Angelo DiLullo

Wed, 07 Jan 2026 09:00:00 -0500

Angelo Dilullo is an author, podcast host, and teacher who brings a down-to-earth reality to the topic of awakening.

His podcast Simply Always Awake is a treasure trove of insights into awakening with a refreshing lack of pretense or unnecessary spiritual window dressing. His approach is practical and lived in, and that’s probably why tens of thousands of people have benefitted so much from his teachings.

Angelo’s book Awake is a great reminder that awakening is a natural process just about anybody can experience.

Today, we have him on The Container to talk about awakening and bringing this kind of consciousness into we-space practices like circling.

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The Book of Circling with Marc Beneteau

Thu, 11 Dec 2025 14:00:00 -0500

Marc “Marco” Beneteau is a major force in the Authentic Relating and Circling world. His newsletter has become a must-read feature of the field, and his introduction to Circling has been one of the most important resources for newcomers.

And now… Marco’s working on a third version of his intro book, bringing in some of the biggest names in Authentic Relating to help. He comes on the podcast to help us.

Find out more about his Circling Guide here: https://circlingguide.com/
Contribute to the fundraiser here: https://www.gofundme.com/f/support-the-circling-guide-3rd-edition
Subscribe to his newsletter here: https://marcobeneteau.substack.com/

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Five Books

Wed, 26 Nov 2025 08:00:00 -0500

These five weird books will change your life. This isn’t a list of great books you’ve already read. No, no. These are a bit off the beaten path, but they all support a spirit-forward life. These will guide you, support you, and even entertain you, whether you are seeking enlightenment, sainthood, or a little growth in the right direction.

Below is the full list with links to buy them:

Spacecruiser Inquiry by A.H. Almaas

Getting Our Bodies Back by Christine Caldwell

New Seeds of Contemplation by Thomas Merton

Easyway to Quit Smoking by Allen Carr

The Wild Edge of Sorrow by Francis Weller

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Boundaries and Circling

Wed, 12 Nov 2025 08:00:00 -0500

Boundaries define us. They draw the border of the country of ourselves. They help us negotiate relationships. They help us discover what's important to us. And when they are violated, they call us to go inward and pursue explosive personal growth.

The Circling practice in particular allows us to discover our edges and learn how to be artful when we move into deep territory in others. All that and more on this very special episode.

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The Magic of Wearing Masks (Happy Halloween!)

Wed, 29 Oct 2025 07:00:00 -0400

It's our Halloween Episode of The Container! We discuss the power of masks that we wear in our lives: the Cool Guy, the Good Mother, the Professional, etc. Sometimes, we struggle to feel authentic while wearing masks, but there is so much more to what's going on. If we are really paying attention, it even touches our ability to shape reality.

We also see how circling is such a rich practice space to explore masks and how Halloween is the perfect technology to understand the best approach.

This is based broadly on our most recent newsletter, which you can find here. | https://the-containers-newsletter.beehiiv.com/p/on-wearing-masks

Also, this episode marks our official two-year anniversary of the show. Thanks for being here for the ride.

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Myths and Family w/ Sean Wilkinson

Wed, 15 Oct 2025 08:00:00 -0400

What do archetypal stories like Lord of the Rings, Harry Potter, and the Gruffalo teach our families? How can we more consciously relate with these contemporary sources of mythic images? And can we use them to raise children and fortify ourselves on our own journeys?

Sean Wilkinson of Transformational Connection comes on The Container to answer all these questions (and many more).

🔗 Learn more about Transformational Connection
👉 https://www.transformationalconnection.org/

🌿 Book your stay at the Connection Hub in Portugal
Looking for a retreat space rooted in the practice of Surrendered Leadership? The Connection Hub in Portugal is now open for bookings. It’s a home for Circling intensives, relational immersions, and personal transformation. Visit the TC site for details and availability.
👉 https://www.transformationalconnection.com/transformational-connection-house-booking

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Power Dynamics in Circling w/ Hannah Hellsing

Wed, 01 Oct 2025 07:00:00 -0400

This episode is a can't miss. Hannah Hellsing comes on the podcast to talk about Power. And in a first for our show, Sigh hosts solo. Together, we explore the meaning of power and how we can work with it in the practice.

Just like the previous Jordan Myska Allen episode, this engages the evergreen issue of power in the practice but from an exciting new perspective.

Hannah Hellsing is a therapist and coach who has experience certifying through Transformational Connection's SAS program. If you'd like to work with here, you can reach her at: hcreaturebh@gmail.com

Here is a link to the Emerald episode Hannah refers to: On Powers, Great and Small

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Power Dynamics in Circling w/ Jordan Myska Allen

Wed, 17 Sep 2025 14:00:00 -0400

Power dynamics and hierarchy are rarely talked about features of any community. In Circling, where so many participants value egalitarianism, this can become tricky.

So let’s dive into it with one of the world’s leading experts on the practice! Jordan Myska Allen is a veteran of the art of circling who has pioneered the practice while also creating an organization devoted to it.

On this episode, we explore the gifts and perils of power in a circle with him. And yeah, this is feeling like part one of a million-part series, doesn't it?

📚 Check out Jordan’s Substack here! (https://jordanmallen.substack.com/)
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What Do We Do Now? w/ Rob Kancler

Wed, 03 Sep 2025 07:00:00 -0400

Okay, so you've woken up. You've escaped the Matrix. Now what?

What do we actually do? And what kind of world can we start building now that we're on the spiritual path?

All this and much more with this massive interview.

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Anger, Eros, and Boundaries with John Thompson

Wed, 20 Aug 2025 06:00:00 -0400

The amazing John Thompson comes back into The Container for a discussion coming at you from the very frontiers of the relational arts. We talk about how these practices can be taught to just about anybody, how to work with anger and eros, and how to artfully deploy boundaries.

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Is It All a Psyop? w/ Rob Kancler

Wed, 06 Aug 2025 06:00:00 -0400

Do we have the ultimate unplug from the real Matrix? Did aliens implant religion into humanity as a psyop? What's going on with emotions anyway?

This conversation goes EXTREMELY deep into how we navigate moving into and out of the Matrix: the network of constructions, helpful fictions, ideologies, and notions that make up the world we know.

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Escape the Matrix w/ Rob Kancler

Wed, 23 Jul 2025 06:00:00 -0400

DISCLAIMER: Some of the conversation was a bit too controversial for the RSS feed, so we've put the full, unedited discussion up on our Patreon.

In this conversation, we welcome Rob Kancler back on the show to talk about the Matrix, both what it is and how we enter and exit it at will.

We discuss the implications of the Matrix on personal development, sexuality, and community dynamics.

And yes, we lean HEAVILY on the metaphor of the Matrix.

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Believe in God (Again)

Wed, 09 Jul 2025 06:00:00 -0400

Can you feel the world waking back up to God and magic? In this conversation, Jonathan and Sigh crack open The Container to explore how anyone can rediscover an enchanted life even in the Post-AI Era.

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Magic and Manifestation with Raven Elise

Mon, 23 Jun 2025 00:00:00 -0400

Raven Elise is a healer, life coach, and expert in manifestation. On this episode, we dive deep into her new oracle deck, as well as the fine points of magnetizing what you want.

🔮 Check out her oracle deck and coaching services on her website here. | https://www.itsjustraven.com/

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Post-AI Religion

Mon, 09 Jun 2025 00:00:00 -0400

The AI revolution changes everything. And as humanity navigates our way through this tumultuous moment in history, it might be time to turn once again to the spiritual technology of religion.

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Developmental Trauma as Connection Intelligence with Sean Wilkinson

Mon, 26 May 2025 00:00:00 -0400

What if the traits we associate with developmental trauma are signs of a unique relational intelligence?

In this episode, we sit down with Sean Wilkinson, co-founder of Transformational Connection, to explore how early life experiences shape our sensitivity to connection—and how mystical, relational practices can explore and grow in this capacity.

Whether you’re a practitioner of the relational arts or simply someone seeking healing outside the clinical box, this conversation has something for you.

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Stages of Consciousness with Brad Mewhort

Mon, 12 May 2025 00:00:00 -0400

Brad Mewhort teaches us about the Stages of Consciousness and this practice of circling that helps evolve through them.

Brad is a hypnotherapist and facilitator. He’s also a writer. He penned the book The Peaceful Man about addressing and healing from male-on-male violence.

⭕️For more information about Brad's late-stage Circling groups, you can email him at brad@mirroring.one
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AI and Digital Mysticism with Leif Hansen

Mon, 28 Apr 2025 00:00:00 -0400

Leif Hansen gives us a deeply spiritual look at the AI revolution and what it means. Truly, the aliens have landed. Already, we can use these tools to delve into the depths of our psyches, form new and more fulfilling relationships with technology, and grasp what consciousness really is.

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Authentic Relating Everywhere with Ryel Kestano

Mon, 14 Apr 2025 00:00:00 -0400

Ryle Kestano is a major name in the Authentic Relating movement--he literally wrote the book on the topic. In this discussion, he shares his thoughts on bringing these important practices beyond the workshop format and into our everyday lives with everyone we know.

His message calls us to make more powerful and real connections. Despite all the reasons we might have to reject or refuse people, can we show up for more authenticity in every part of our life?

🎓 You can learn Authentic Relating from the group Ryel co-founded here at AuthenticRelating.co.

📖 And you can find the book Authentic Relating by Ryel Kestano wherever books are sold.

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Facing the Fear of Death with Susan Campbell

Mon, 31 Mar 2025 00:00:00 -0400

Susan Campbell returns to talk about the fear of death. It's harrowing, it's confronting, but it's also a pathway to deep self-learning.

📬 Get Susan Campbell's fantastic Substack here.

🎧 Plus, listen to Episodes 24 and 25 to hear Susan walk us through her incredible From Triggered to Tranquil system.

📚 You can also find her extraordinary books (we highly recommend them) for sale here.

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Integral Circling School with Jason Digges

Mon, 17 Mar 2025 00:00:00 -0400

Jason Digges is an absolute legend in the world of circling and authentic relating. So we were happy to have him back to discuss his journey opening up a new circling school.

What makes his school different?

Jason is resurrecting the Integral Circling movement. It’s also offering an affordable way to practice with plans starting at just $40 a month.

📚 Check out Jason Digges’ circling school here: https://www.integralcirclingschool.com

Also, check out episodes 19 and 20 for more Jason Digges!

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Men, Shame, and Freedom with Rob Kancler

Mon, 03 Mar 2025 07:00:00 -0500

This is the second half of our series of interviews with Rob Kancler. He is a guide and spiritual teacher for men who want to become pioneers of their sexual futures. His work opens our eyes to the million myths and false narratives that bind our energies and block the full expression of who we are and what we could become.

If you love this discussion, make sure to check out Episode 55.

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Solving Social Media with Jordan Myska Allen

Mon, 17 Feb 2025 00:00:00 -0500

We all know social media is broken. Jordan Myska Allen and the team at UpTrust are trying to fix that.

How? They’re integrating insights from the relational arts as well as enormous, civilization-wide considerations of how trust works and how people keep an open mind.

It might be the first-ever high-consciousness social media platform. And you can become a part of it by joining the waitlist.

📚 Sign up for the waitlist here! (http://uptrusting.com/join-waitlist)

**Note** we will return to the second part of our mega-discussion with Rob Kancler in two weeks. We needed to rush this episode out so people could get on the waitlist!

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Sexual Mysticism with Rob Kancler

Mon, 03 Feb 2025 00:00:00 -0500

Rob Kancler guides men to become pioneers of their sexual futures. His work opens our eyes to the million myths and false narratives that bind our energies and block the full expression of who we are and what we could become.

Plus, he’s a great conversationalist.

In this long episode, we talk about all kinds of topics related to sexuality, the body, and reaching mystical states through union. Our next episode will bring you more Rob Kancler, so if you love this, just wait for your second serving!

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The Science of OBEs (out of body experiences) with Marina Weiler

Mon, 20 Jan 2025 00:00:00 -0500

Marina Weiler is an Assistant Professor of Psychiatry and Neurobehavioral Sciences in the UVA Division of Perceptual Studies.

That’s one way to say that she scientifically studies out-of-body experiences (or OBEs). This research is deeply confronting to a purely materialist view of the world, and it helps us understand better how consciousness works.

Anyone who has circled for an extended period of time has likely induced an OBE (or something like it) in the practice. Even if you haven’t, you’ve probably had some kind of experience that seriously undermines the idea that consciousness is simply something made by the brain.

We brought on Marina Weiler to teach us about her work and then, in typical Container fashion, we give her an opportunity to go into her full view of the universe.

📚 Check out the Division of Perceptual Studies at UVA! (https://med.virginia.edu/perceptual-studies/)

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Relatefulness with Jordan Myska Allen

Mon, 06 Jan 2025 00:00:00 -0500

Jordan Myska Allen. He pioneered many fundamental practices in the art of circling and authentic relating—and he coined an entirely new paradigm to file this work under: Relatefulness.

And his organization (the Relateful Company in Austin, Texas) is the leading center of the relational arts in the United States.

We talk about this thing of ours, with Jordan pushing us to go beyond the axioms and maxims that guide the practice for most of us. Instead, he pursues a radical interrogation of everything, willing to circle even the sacred cows of “Welcome Everything” and… as we will see right away… what dropping in could even mean.

Whether you are new to circling or have been wading in the deep waters of transformational connection for decades, this conversation will connect you to the spiritual core of the practice.

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Practice & Ritual with Scout Rainer Wiley

Mon, 23 Dec 2024 00:00:00 -0500

In our final episode of the Advent season, we welcome the luminous Scout Rainer Wiley—mystical writer, ritual artist, and contemplative spirit. Known for her ability to weave esoteric wisdom with grounded, real-world insights, Scout takes us on a journey through her reflections on writing, living a sacred life, the importance of ritual, and how natural disasters (even a hurricane) can serve as an emergent ritual ordeal for an entire community.

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Reclaiming Christianity with Alicen Grey

Mon, 09 Dec 2024 14:00:00 -0500

Alicen Grey is many things—a writer, a musician, a mystic, and a magician. She comes on The Container to talk about Jesus Christ and the secret of free energy. We also cover why opening ourselves up to the magic and power of Christianity can be so difficult given our personal histories and previous encounters with the religion.

This very special episode comes just in time for Advent season. We are so grateful to be able to share it with you in this time of year. Happy Holidays and Merry Christmas!

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Circling Takes Over the World? with Mahaya Alina Sikorsky

Mon, 25 Nov 2024 00:00:00 -0500

Mahaya Alina Sikorsky is a circling facilitator and life coach who works with The Connection Institute. She shares how this practice changed her life and how it can catalyze a profound shift in the world by developing New Earth Consciousness.

🔗 Mahaya at The Connection Institute

Check out Episodes 33 and 34 for interviews with Melody Indigo Markel who also works at The Connection Institute!

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How Young Men Can Thrive in This Society with Mark Walsh

Mon, 11 Nov 2024 00:00:00 -0500

Mark Walsh is a lot of things, but if you know his name, it’s likely because of his work with embodiment. And he blends life coaching with weight training to give young men guidance.

We brought him on to talk about the issues facing men and how weightlifting can help.

And along the way… we talk about politics. A first for The Container—and edgy territory for us to get into.

🔗 Find him online at: https://www.embodimentunlimited.com
🔗 Find his YouTube Channel at: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCfgLCTiNzVpIeL_j7Icxh8w
🔗 Find his Podcast at: https://embodimentunlimited.com/podcast/
🔗 Find his Feral Philosophy show at: https://www.youtube.com/@FeralPhilosophy_mw

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Tai Chi and Circling with Peter Munthe-Kaas

Mon, 28 Oct 2024 00:00:00 -0400

Peter Munthe-Kaas is a master of the Circling Europe tradition. He hops into the Container to discuss his blend of Circling, Tai Chi, and Daoism.

🔗Find him online at: www.munthe-kaas.dk

This ties into our ongoing investigation in the Dao and Circling. You can see more of that in Episode 38: The Tao Te Ching and Circling and Episode 40: Who Is the Master in the Tao Te Ching?

And, of course, Patreon members get all the episodes of our series The Way That Can Be Told, which goes chapter-by-chapter through the Tao Te Ching, looking at it as a guide to circling.

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What Is Metarelating? with Michael Porcelli

Mon, 14 Oct 2024 00:00:00 -0400

We get hands-on, practical tools from a master of the relational arts—Michael Porcelli.

He is the creator of MetaRelating, a powerful system blending Authentic Relating with broader communication and psychological frameworks.

In this episode, Porcelli introduces a ton of helpful concepts, including the "We-Creature," a dynamic third entity between two people that needs attention and care.

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Tap into Life Force with Sean Wilkinson

Mon, 30 Sep 2024 00:00:00 -0400

This episode brings us the thoughts and experience of none other than Sean Wilkinson, co-founder of Circling Europe. He walks us through the power (and dangers) of tapping into life force.

Deep bow to Sean and his extraordinary contributions to human connection and awakening. We are so humbled to bring you this conversation.

Check out the Circling Europe website here.

To get a refresher on Surrendered Leadership, check out our interview with Circling Europe co-founder John Thompson where he describes the practice in detail on Episode 31 here.

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How Deep Does Connection Go?

Mon, 16 Sep 2024 00:00:00 -0400

Martje Witzel comes back on the show to talk about deep connection. To each other and even to the earth itself.

In this state of deep connection, we can expand our minds and discover the real meaning of things like "love" and "God."

For more information on Martje, check out her website here.

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Meet Each Other, Meet God with Martje Witzel

Mon, 09 Sep 2024 00:00:00 -0400

Martje Witzel is a life coach and surrendered leadership facilitator. Sharing space with her, you can immediately feel the power of her presence and the commitment she has to the practice.

In this discussion, she helps us orient to the profound (and often bizarre) features of fields created under surrendered leadership. We continue to broaden our horizons until we find ourselves at the ultimate questions.

And that's where we'll continue the conversation next week!

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The Western Esoteric Tradition with Carolyn Lovewell

Mon, 02 Sep 2024 00:00:00 -0400

For those of us who circle and practice surrendered leadership, we've all tasted the magic in what we do. I think that means we could learn a lot (and grow a lot) from seeing how people in the world of magic organize themselves and create heightened states of presence and oneness (a cosmic version of connection).

To give us that perspective, Carolyn Lovewell comes back on the podcast. She helps us understand the importance of mystery schools and their place in the Western esoteric tradition.

To learn more about her work, go to her website.

To check out the Immortal College, go to their website here.

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Existential Kink: The Best Form of Shadow Work with Carolyn Lovewell

Mon, 26 Aug 2024 00:00:00 -0400

We're back on the third rung of the Container spiral!

We discuss Existential K/nk with Carolyn Lovewell (formerly Carolyn Eliot). She guides us through her discovery and creation of the single best shadow work system available today.

To learn more about her work, go to her website.

It's Episode 42. As you may know, 42 is a powerful number in the Kabbalah. In this system, the 42-letter name of God is used to connect to the days of creation, the Sephirah with their corresponding planets, and more. Mystics can enter multi-level states of consciousness by repeating this name like a mantra.

And so, it is the perfect episode to launch our new series in "The Beyond." We'll be using the Relational Arts to go into the furthest reaches of consciousness, past our everyday life and into the occluded spheres of being that call to us in dream, as darkness falls and sky country twinkles with ten thousand points of angelic light.

It all starts here with Carolyn Lovewell, our High Priestess welcoming us past the veil into the mysteries of The Beyond.

Make sure to reach out and connect at our Facebook group. There, we are discovering the ways that circling can help us spiritually awaken.

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Six Books (and a Special Announcement)

Mon, 05 Aug 2024 00:00:00 -0400

In this episode, we outline the six books we would recommend to anyone looking to take their circling practice deeper.

Tao Te Ching translated by Stephen Mitchell
I Ching translated by Benebell Wen
Nonviolent Communication by Marshall Rosenberg
Getting Real by Susan Campbell
Existential Kink by Carolyn Elliot/Lovewell
No Bad Parts by Richard Schwartz

We are also announcing a break! We'll be back to launch the next rung of the spiral on August 26th!

In the meantime, you can catch us at Circling Europe's International Transformational Connection Festival 2024.

Plus, make sure to reach out and connect at our Facebook group. There, we are discovering the ways that circling can help us spiritually awaken. More on that when we come back from break.

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Who Is the Master in the Tao Te Ching?

Mon, 29 Jul 2024 00:00:00 -0400

In this deep dive into the Tao Te Ching, The Container dives into the second chapter. We discover that "the Master" described in the text can actually be used as a stand-in for the circle itself.

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Chapter 2
When people see some things as beautiful,
other things become ugly.
When people see some things as good,
other things become bad.

Being and non-being create each other.
Difficult and easy support each other.
Long and short define each other.
High and low depend on each other.
Before and after follow each other.

Therefore the Master
acts without doing anything
and teaches without saying anything.
Things arise and she lets them come;
things disappear and she lets them go.
She has but doesn’t possess,
acts but doesn’t expect.
When her work is done, she forgets it.
That is why it lasts forever.

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A website with multiple translations of the Tao Te Ching side-by-side: Tao Te Ching – translation comparison (tasuki.org )
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Sacred Intimacy with Adam Quiney

Mon, 22 Jul 2024 00:00:00 -0400

Adam Quiney joins us once again to discuss the practice of Sacred Intimacy. This is a step-by-step process to build a strong physical connection from the ground up.

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The Tao Te Ching and Circling

Mon, 15 Jul 2024 00:00:00 -0400

This episode marks the beginning of our The Way That Can Be Told series, where Sigh and I go through each chapter of the Tao Te Ching. On our long walk, we'll circle ourselves taking in the wisdom and connect it to the art and practice of circling itself.

This first episode is being offered on the free feed, but the vast majority of this 81+ episode series is only available for paying patrons on our Patreon.

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A website with multiple translations of the Tao Te Ching side-by-side: Tao Te Ching – translation comparison (tasuki.org )
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Notes for the Spiritual Path with Adam Quiney

Mon, 08 Jul 2024 00:00:00 -0400

Adam Quiney is a coach, podcaster, and spiritual thinker. We had an incredible conversation about the spiritual path, roaming through how we work with the ego, trauma, and let go.

It's a beautiful walk through the spiritual path. So, join in!

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We Repair with Dr. Hazel-Grace Yates

Mon, 01 Jul 2024 00:00:00 -0400

Dr. Hazel-Grace Yates takes us through a REPAIR process on the show! She shows us how conflict can be a doorway to deeper connection by working with conflict between The Container's hosts.

It's edgy for us to present, and we are grateful we get to add this level of vulnerability to the project.

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If you want to hear our interview with Dr. Yates on her REPAIR Process, check out Episode 35.

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Repair Connection with Dr. Hazel-Grace Yates

Mon, 24 Jun 2024 00:00:00 -0400

Dr. Hazel-Grace Yates comes on the podcast to teach us about the REPAIR process, a powerful tool for connection. It's exciting. It's informative. It's practical.

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Going Beyond Circling with Melody Indigo Markel

Mon, 17 Jun 2024 00:00:00 -0400

Melody Indigo Markel joins us again to outline the world that awaits us when we go beyond circling.

She talks about embodied leadership, a way that the skills we develop while circling turn into a fully integrated life path.

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The Joys of Integral Circling with Melody Indigo Markel

Mon, 10 Jun 2024 00:00:00 -0400

Melody Indigo Markel joins us to discuss Integral Circling, a potent form of the practice. She was part of the generation of facilitators that helped create the foundation for the circling world from the magical Integral Center in Boulder, Colorado. Today, she has used that basis of self-knowledge and capacity for welcoming everything to develop a powerful coaching practice that creates embodied leaders.

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Trauma-Informed Circling with John Thompson

Mon, 03 Jun 2024 08:00:00 -0400

In this third part of our interview with John Thompson of Circling Europe, we discuss how circling can be trauma-informed under surrendered leadership.

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The Essence of Surrendered Leadership with John Thompson

Mon, 27 May 2024 00:00:00 -0400

In this second part of our interview with John Thompson of Circling Europe, we discuss the concept of Surrendered Leadership. The full depth of the idea really popped us, expanding from a way to run a circle to a true path to spiritual awakening.

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The Magickal Path of Circling with John Thompson

Mon, 20 May 2024 00:00:00 -0400

None other than John Thompson of Circling Europe joins us to talk about his journey from seeker to circler. We talk about the magickal path that circling opens up, and John shares his wisdom as an adept in the field.

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Men, Porn, and Intentional Relationships with Robert Kandell

Mon, 13 May 2024 00:00:00 -0400

Our Eros Series concludes (yes, concludes) with the second half of our conversation with Robert Kandell. We discuss major topics affecting the male erotic world, including the rise of free streaming video pornography, rediscovering intimacy, and liberating your power with intentionality both in your relationships and your life.

To find more Robert Kandell, check out his website here.

His book Unhidden: A Book for Men and Those Confused by Them can be found online — including the audiobook read by the author!

Find his business mastery and forecast work at Your Financial Forecast.

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It's Time to Be Seen with Robert Kandell

Mon, 06 May 2024 00:00:00 -0400

Our Eros Series takes us to none other than Robert Kandell. His path is winding one—from the American dream to psychedelic exploration to orgasmic meditation to thought leading to life as a fractional CFO.

He tells us how he left his standard, boilerplate life at 28 to discover a world of profound authenticity and fulfillment.

To find more Robert Kandell, check out his website here.

His book Unhidden: A Book for Men and Those Confused by Them can be found online — including the audiobook read by the author!

Find his business mastery and forecast work at Your Financial Forecast.

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Let the Anger Out with Sara Ness and Geof Krum

Mon, 29 Apr 2024 00:00:00 -0400

We welcome Sara Ness and Geof Krum once again to the Eros Series. This time, we discuss the power of hot anger and the gifts we receive when we work with this force. Hand in hand with Eros, these two energies have a lot of potential to radically change our lives and relationships for the better.

We also dive into the relationship between Sara and Geof, how they've negotiated being two Authentic Relating facilitators in love, and what it's like battling dangerous insects in their rural home.

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Fight Better, Love More with Sara Ness and Geof Krum

Mon, 22 Apr 2024 00:00:00 -0400

Our Eros Series continues with two highly influential leaders of the Authentic Relating movement, none other than Sara Ness and Geof Krum!

They talk to us about their backgrounds and what it is like to use those well-honed skills of authenticity in their relationship. We end up focusing on healthy conflict and how fighting better can lead to loving more.

Next week, we talk about red-hot anger and how it can build stronger relationships.

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Hear Us Get Couples Coaching with Susan Campbell

Mon, 15 Apr 2024 00:00:00 -0400

This episode is totally unlike anything we've ever done.

Today, you'll hear us get couples coaching with Susan Campbell, author The Couple's Journey, Getting Real, and From Triggered to Tranquil. It's a wild part of our ongoing Eros Series.

Check out last week's episode to hear our interview with her.

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Trigger Your Way to Enlightenment with Susan Campbell

Mon, 08 Apr 2024 00:00:00 -0400

When our romantic partners trigger us, it can send us into profound emotional turmoil. Could this be fertile soil for a practice that gives us rich insight into our selves and even lead to enlightenment?

That's what today's guest, Susan Campbell, has been saying since the release of her 1980 book The Couple's Journey.

Since then, she's gone on to write the seminal text Getting Real (which helped crystallize the authentic relating movement) and From Triggered to Tranquil (a practical guide for couples that Sigh and I use and highly recommend).

This discussion is full of amazing insights from somebody whose pioneering work is as vital today as ever before. It's another piece in our journey with Eros. And we are so excited to bring it to you. It's such an honor to meet people like Susan and share her insights with you.

Next week, we have Susan Campbell give Sigh and me a real coaching session, letting you see her work in action.

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Let's Talk Polyamory with Amy Leigh Curry

Mon, 01 Apr 2024 00:00:00 -0400

In this second half of our discussion with Amy Leigh Curry, we dive into the world of polyamory. We also take a look at other ways that people can explore relating to one another in a romantic way. That includes entirely platonic touch, like cuddling!

Amy is a facilitator, coach, and ordained non-denominational Minister. Her work is vast, from hosting sacred cuddle events to officiating weddings for non-traditional family structures. If you want to learn more about Amy's work, visit:

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Mindful Romance with Amy Leigh Curry

Mon, 25 Mar 2024 00:00:00 -0400

Romantic love, sex, relationships. These are the field of Eros, and they are the major themes we will be dealing with to start off the Spring. How can we approach this overwhelming force with mindful care and purposeful attention? To help us figure that out, we brought on Amy Leigh Curry.

Amy is a facilitator, coach, and ordained non-denominational Minister. Her work is vast, from hosting sacred cuddle events to officiating weddings for non-traditional family structures.

Today on the podcast, she gives us a look at the liberating romantic concept of Relationship Anarchy, understanding how we can start questioning the Relationship Escalator, and how learning to listen to our own desire can be a doorway to more profound connection in every realm of our lives.

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Duality, Modes, and Yin Yang (ARCS I)

Mon, 18 Mar 2024 00:00:00 -0400

This episode covers the concept of active and receptive modes in circling (also known as yin and yang). It's the first in a new format we are calling ARCS (Authentic Relating & Circling Seminars).

Shout out to Rob for his awesome contribution... from the woods!

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The History of Circling II with Jason Digges

Mon, 11 Mar 2024 00:00:00 -0400

Last week, we began our conversation with Jason Digges on the history of circling. Today, we finish that discussion. Jason takes us from the Integral Center, where he and a team of intrepid researchers and facilitators helped link the pioneering work of Ken Wilbur and Susan Campbell with the early founders of circling like Guy Sengstock into a core modality in the world of the Relational Arts.

As that story concludes, we go from the laboratory of a community center in Boulder, Colorado, to an international adventure as the movement goes global.

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The History of Circling I with Jason Digges

Mon, 04 Mar 2024 00:00:00 -0500

In this episode, we welcome none other than Jason Digges onto the podcast to track the history of circling from its origin among the likes of Susan Campbell, Ken Wilbur, and Guy Sengstock to where it is today. The story comes from someone who saw much of the history firsthand at the Integral Center in Boulder, Colorado, and then later as a leading figure in the authentic relating movement.

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Somatic Connection II

Mon, 26 Feb 2024 00:00:00 -0500

The second half of our talk with energy healer and qi gong teacher Jay Demaio. He teaches us a lot about how to let our energy flow in our day-to-day lives as well as in the circle. This includes how to yawn, the importance of napping, using the tongue mudra, and integrating emotional experiences. It's a lot of great stuff!

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Somatic Connection I

Mon, 19 Feb 2024 00:00:00 -0500

Circling gives us a lot of tools to communicate in a profoundly present way. But our bodies are tools for connecting, too. In this first of two blockbuster episodes, we talk with Jay Demaio, a qigong teacher and trauma-informed somatic energy healer. We explore how we can use the body to move energy in a way that builds stronger connections. Oh, and we circle, too!

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Connect Right Now

Mon, 12 Feb 2024 00:00:00 -0500

This is a discussion with the incredible Cathy Courtenay. A true master of circling and a committed educator, she teaches the skills of the relational arts to a wide range of people, while also holding space for a community of practitioners in Asheville, North Carolina. Here, she gives us accessible tools we can begin using right now to connect with one another.

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Circling Strongstyle

Mon, 05 Feb 2024 00:00:00 -0500

This is an exciting episode! Sigh and Jonathan discuss a new practice that's been capturing their attention: Circling Strongstyle. With a heavy emphasis on the meditation side of things (as well as a heavy dose of discipline), this format will hopefully build our capacity to stay in the present with other people even as things get into the red. (See Episode 9, "The Traffic Light," for more on states like green, yellow, and red.)

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Also, we are still working on some documents to release to our patrons on Patreon. These go in-depth with what circling is and various other burning questions in the field of the Relational Arts.

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The Caretaking Issue (with Joel Tenbomb)

Mon, 29 Jan 2024 00:00:00 -0500

On this, our first interview episode, Joel Tenbomb joins us to discuss the fraught issue of caretaking. While some people see it as simple acts of kindness, it's important to keep an eye out for the many ways caretaking can limit the sovereignty and expression of others. This holds true inside of circling and in our lives.

More about Joel: Joel is the creator of Circling Curious, a Circling group that meets up monthly in Boston. He has been most intently involved with Circling for the past six years, having completed many Circling retreats at Monastic Academy in Vermont, as well as immersions with the Austin-based Relateful Company. His goal is to spread the practice of Circling as far and wide as people are willing to receive it!

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