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    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Send us Fan Mail Alex and Arun jump in one a new episode to discuss a little about need for a risen Christ. They also jump into a needful chat about the maligning of the name of Jesus by the likes for the White House Faith advisor. The utter silence from most leading "evangelical pastors" is deafening. We are pretty sure of the the level of out cry and wailing we would be subjected to, if it was a WH Faith advisor of the opposing political party. Followers of Christ need to stand up and speak...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/2268053/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>Alex and Arun jump in one a new episode to discuss a little about need for a risen Christ. They also jump into a needful chat about the maligning of the name of Jesus by the likes for the White House Faith advisor. The utter silence from most leading &quot;evangelical pastors&quot; is deafening. We are pretty sure of the the level of out cry and wailing we would be subjected to, if it was a WH Faith advisor of the opposing political party. Followers of Christ need to stand up and speak up against this usurpation of biblical Christianity into something that is unrecognizable. </p><p><br/></p><p>Have a blessed Resurrection Sunday!</p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/2268053/support">Support the show</a></p><p>Thank you for joining us on AGAINST THE FLOW - with Alex Ortiz and Arun Paul. We hope that our honest conversations will provoke thought and challenge perspectives. Join as we aspire to be more like Jesus and walk in His way. </p><p>Please Subscribe, Follow or even write a review if you are so inclined. </p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/2268053/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>Alex and Arun jump in one a new episode to discuss a little about need for a risen Christ. They also jump into a needful chat about the maligning of the name of Jesus by the likes for the White House Faith advisor. The utter silence from most leading &quot;evangelical pastors&quot; is deafening. We are pretty sure of the the level of out cry and wailing we would be subjected to, if it was a WH Faith advisor of the opposing political party. Followers of Christ need to stand up and speak up against this usurpation of biblical Christianity into something that is unrecognizable. </p><p><br/></p><p>Have a blessed Resurrection Sunday!</p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/2268053/support">Support the show</a></p><p>Thank you for joining us on AGAINST THE FLOW - with Alex Ortiz and Arun Paul. We hope that our honest conversations will provoke thought and challenge perspectives. Join as we aspire to be more like Jesus and walk in His way. </p><p>Please Subscribe, Follow or even write a review if you are so inclined. </p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Send us Fan Mail Arun jumps in on a quick pod to share a few thoughts on Palm Sunday and the nature of Jesus who intentionally positions Himself as a Humble Servant and NOT a political or military ruler. The fact that the religious leaders of the day had turned the "House of prayer" into a "den of thieves", is explored briefly. This tracks with what a lot of current "institutionalized churches" have brazenly adopted, with no fear of God. A disgraceful misrepresentation of the Gospel. While in...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/2268053/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>Arun jumps in on a quick pod to share a few thoughts on Palm Sunday and the nature of Jesus who intentionally positions Himself as a Humble Servant and NOT a political or military ruler. The fact that the religious leaders of the day had turned the &quot;House of prayer&quot; into a &quot;den of thieves&quot;, is explored briefly. This tracks with what a lot of current &quot;institutionalized churches&quot; have brazenly adopted, with no fear of God. A disgraceful misrepresentation of the Gospel. While in one breath they say &quot;Maranatha&quot;, in the very next one are breathlessly advocating for building their multi-million earthly empires. </p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/2268053/support">Support the show</a></p><p>Thank you for joining us on AGAINST THE FLOW - with Alex Ortiz and Arun Paul. We hope that our honest conversations will provoke thought and challenge perspectives. Join as we aspire to be more like Jesus and walk in His way. </p><p>Please Subscribe, Follow or even write a review if you are so inclined. </p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/2268053/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>Arun jumps in on a quick pod to share a few thoughts on Palm Sunday and the nature of Jesus who intentionally positions Himself as a Humble Servant and NOT a political or military ruler. The fact that the religious leaders of the day had turned the &quot;House of prayer&quot; into a &quot;den of thieves&quot;, is explored briefly. This tracks with what a lot of current &quot;institutionalized churches&quot; have brazenly adopted, with no fear of God. A disgraceful misrepresentation of the Gospel. While in one breath they say &quot;Maranatha&quot;, in the very next one are breathlessly advocating for building their multi-million earthly empires. </p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/2268053/support">Support the show</a></p><p>Thank you for joining us on AGAINST THE FLOW - with Alex Ortiz and Arun Paul. We hope that our honest conversations will provoke thought and challenge perspectives. Join as we aspire to be more like Jesus and walk in His way. </p><p>Please Subscribe, Follow or even write a review if you are so inclined. </p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Send us Fan Mail How do we hold each other biblically accountable without falling into self righteousness or shame? Alex and Arun have another little honest conversation about biblical correction and grace and touch on the lack of biblical accountability amongst most modern church systems today.  Support the show Thank you for joining us on AGAINST THE FLOW - with Alex Ortiz and Arun Paul. We hope that our honest conversations will provoke thought and challenge perspectives. Join as we a...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/2268053/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>How do we hold each other biblically accountable without falling into self righteousness or shame? Alex and Arun have another little honest conversation about biblical correction and grace and touch on the lack of biblical accountability amongst most modern church systems today. </p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/2268053/support">Support the show</a></p><p>Thank you for joining us on AGAINST THE FLOW - with Alex Ortiz and Arun Paul. We hope that our honest conversations will provoke thought and challenge perspectives. Join as we aspire to be more like Jesus and walk in His way. </p><p>Please Subscribe, Follow or even write a review if you are so inclined. </p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/2268053/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>How do we hold each other biblically accountable without falling into self righteousness or shame? Alex and Arun have another little honest conversation about biblical correction and grace and touch on the lack of biblical accountability amongst most modern church systems today. </p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/2268053/support">Support the show</a></p><p>Thank you for joining us on AGAINST THE FLOW - with Alex Ortiz and Arun Paul. We hope that our honest conversations will provoke thought and challenge perspectives. Join as we aspire to be more like Jesus and walk in His way. </p><p>Please Subscribe, Follow or even write a review if you are so inclined. </p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Send us Fan Mail Alex and Arun get together for another honest conversation and address a few of topics that churches seem to avoid. Join us as we discuss some of the ideals that have crept into the Church making it more of a corporate entity rather than a true  biblical Body of Christ. We hit a few topics and there are many more, but we hope this might be a starting point to more conversations.  Hope this helps you in your faith journey in a little way.  Support the show Thank...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/2268053/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>Alex and Arun get together for another honest conversation and address a few of topics that churches seem to avoid. Join us as we discuss some of the ideals that have crept into the Church making it more of a corporate entity rather than a true  biblical Body of Christ. We hit a few topics and there are many more, but we hope this might be a starting point to more conversations. </p><p>Hope this helps you in your faith journey in a little way. </p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/2268053/support">Support the show</a></p><p>Thank you for joining us on AGAINST THE FLOW - with Alex Ortiz and Arun Paul. We hope that our honest conversations will provoke thought and challenge perspectives. Join as we aspire to be more like Jesus and walk in His way. </p><p>Please Subscribe, Follow or even write a review if you are so inclined. </p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/2268053/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>Alex and Arun get together for another honest conversation and address a few of topics that churches seem to avoid. Join us as we discuss some of the ideals that have crept into the Church making it more of a corporate entity rather than a true  biblical Body of Christ. We hit a few topics and there are many more, but we hope this might be a starting point to more conversations. </p><p>Hope this helps you in your faith journey in a little way. </p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/2268053/support">Support the show</a></p><p>Thank you for joining us on AGAINST THE FLOW - with Alex Ortiz and Arun Paul. We hope that our honest conversations will provoke thought and challenge perspectives. Join as we aspire to be more like Jesus and walk in His way. </p><p>Please Subscribe, Follow or even write a review if you are so inclined. </p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Send us Fan Mail Alex and Arun dive into another conversation that could easily have been 6 hours long. Here we explore just a few aspects of the MEGA church culture, celebrity pastors, insecurity in ministry and other related topics. We try to highlight and define what the biblical purpose of a Christ centered church should look like and how one can deviate rapidly from the "great commission".  We look forward to your feedback and pray that this episode invokes a biblical re-think of so...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/2268053/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>Alex and Arun dive into another conversation that could easily have been 6 hours long. Here we explore just a few aspects of the MEGA church culture, celebrity pastors, insecurity in ministry and other related topics. We try to highlight and define what the biblical purpose of a Christ centered church should look like and how one can deviate rapidly from the &quot;great commission&quot;. </p><p>We look forward to your feedback and pray that this episode invokes a biblical re-think of sorts and encourages an honest evaluation. </p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/2268053/support">Support the show</a></p><p>Thank you for joining us on AGAINST THE FLOW - with Alex Ortiz and Arun Paul. We hope that our honest conversations will provoke thought and challenge perspectives. Join as we aspire to be more like Jesus and walk in His way. </p><p>Please Subscribe, Follow or even write a review if you are so inclined. </p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/2268053/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>Alex and Arun dive into another conversation that could easily have been 6 hours long. Here we explore just a few aspects of the MEGA church culture, celebrity pastors, insecurity in ministry and other related topics. We try to highlight and define what the biblical purpose of a Christ centered church should look like and how one can deviate rapidly from the &quot;great commission&quot;. </p><p>We look forward to your feedback and pray that this episode invokes a biblical re-think of sorts and encourages an honest evaluation. </p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/2268053/support">Support the show</a></p><p>Thank you for joining us on AGAINST THE FLOW - with Alex Ortiz and Arun Paul. We hope that our honest conversations will provoke thought and challenge perspectives. Join as we aspire to be more like Jesus and walk in His way. </p><p>Please Subscribe, Follow or even write a review if you are so inclined. </p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Send us Fan Mail Yes. We are still here. Getting back on the horse here with the second part to our chat with our dear brother, Ben Rosario. We pray that this conversation brings you to a better understanding of ministering to the broken in the streets of our cities, being the "hands and feet of Jesus" and proclaiming the Gospel in that. Our constant desire is to continue to minister to "the least of these". Support the show Thank you for joining us on AGAINST THE FLOW - with Alex Ortiz and A...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/2268053/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>Yes. We are still here. Getting back on the horse here with the second part to our chat with our dear brother, Ben Rosario. We pray that this conversation brings you to a better understanding of ministering to the broken in the streets of our cities, being the &quot;hands and feet of Jesus&quot; and proclaiming the Gospel in that. Our constant desire is to continue to minister to &quot;the least of these&quot;.</p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/2268053/support">Support the show</a></p><p>Thank you for joining us on AGAINST THE FLOW - with Alex Ortiz and Arun Paul. We hope that our honest conversations will provoke thought and challenge perspectives. Join as we aspire to be more like Jesus and walk in His way. </p><p>Please Subscribe, Follow or even write a review if you are so inclined. </p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/2268053/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>Yes. We are still here. Getting back on the horse here with the second part to our chat with our dear brother, Ben Rosario. We pray that this conversation brings you to a better understanding of ministering to the broken in the streets of our cities, being the &quot;hands and feet of Jesus&quot; and proclaiming the Gospel in that. Our constant desire is to continue to minister to &quot;the least of these&quot;.</p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/2268053/support">Support the show</a></p><p>Thank you for joining us on AGAINST THE FLOW - with Alex Ortiz and Arun Paul. We hope that our honest conversations will provoke thought and challenge perspectives. Join as we aspire to be more like Jesus and walk in His way. </p><p>Please Subscribe, Follow or even write a review if you are so inclined. </p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Send us Fan Mail Alex and Arun are joined by a SPECIAL GUEST and discuss some elements of serving our local communities in their basic needs. Hope you are encouraged by this episode. This a PART 1 and the rest will follow soon.    Support the show Thank you for joining us on AGAINST THE FLOW - with Alex Ortiz and Arun Paul. We hope that our honest conversations will provoke thought and challenge perspectives. Join as we aspire to be more like Jesus and walk in His way.  Please ...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/2268053/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>Alex and Arun are joined by a SPECIAL GUEST and discuss some elements of serving our local communities in their basic needs. Hope you are encouraged by this episode. This a PART 1 and the rest will follow soon.   </p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/2268053/support">Support the show</a></p><p>Thank you for joining us on AGAINST THE FLOW - with Alex Ortiz and Arun Paul. We hope that our honest conversations will provoke thought and challenge perspectives. Join as we aspire to be more like Jesus and walk in His way. </p><p>Please Subscribe, Follow or even write a review if you are so inclined. </p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/2268053/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>Alex and Arun are joined by a SPECIAL GUEST and discuss some elements of serving our local communities in their basic needs. Hope you are encouraged by this episode. This a PART 1 and the rest will follow soon.   </p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/2268053/support">Support the show</a></p><p>Thank you for joining us on AGAINST THE FLOW - with Alex Ortiz and Arun Paul. We hope that our honest conversations will provoke thought and challenge perspectives. Join as we aspire to be more like Jesus and walk in His way. </p><p>Please Subscribe, Follow or even write a review if you are so inclined. </p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Send us Fan Mail A quick exhortation to commit to praying for ones in and around our lives. Arun cites the example of the faithful prayer life of George Muller. Hope this blesses you.   Host:Arun Paul Support the show Thank you for joining us on AGAINST THE FLOW - with Alex Ortiz and Arun Paul. We hope that our honest conversations will provoke thought and challenge perspectives. Join as we aspire to be more like Jesus and walk in His way.  Please Subscribe, Follow or even write a r...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/2268053/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>A quick exhortation to commit to praying for ones in and around our lives. Arun cites the example of the faithful prayer life of George Muller. Hope this blesses you. <br/><br/>Host:Arun Paul</p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/2268053/support">Support the show</a></p><p>Thank you for joining us on AGAINST THE FLOW - with Alex Ortiz and Arun Paul. We hope that our honest conversations will provoke thought and challenge perspectives. Join as we aspire to be more like Jesus and walk in His way. </p><p>Please Subscribe, Follow or even write a review if you are so inclined. </p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/2268053/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>A quick exhortation to commit to praying for ones in and around our lives. Arun cites the example of the faithful prayer life of George Muller. Hope this blesses you. <br/><br/>Host:Arun Paul</p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/2268053/support">Support the show</a></p><p>Thank you for joining us on AGAINST THE FLOW - with Alex Ortiz and Arun Paul. We hope that our honest conversations will provoke thought and challenge perspectives. Join as we aspire to be more like Jesus and walk in His way. </p><p>Please Subscribe, Follow or even write a review if you are so inclined. </p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <description><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/2268053/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>Here we have Alex and Arun embark on yet another honest conversation - with the framework of a sermon segment from Pastor Loran Livingston of Central Church in Charlotte. Certainly not a popular take but a much needed  warning to the Church. <br/>Let us know if you have any thoughts or questions. Please SHARE and SUBSCRIBE if this is something that you find interesting as we hope to have many more conversations in the near future. <br/><br/>#AgainstTheFlow<br/><br/></p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/2268053/support">Support the show</a></p><p>Thank you for joining us on AGAINST THE FLOW - with Alex Ortiz and Arun Paul. We hope that our honest conversations will provoke thought and challenge perspectives. Join as we aspire to be more like Jesus and walk in His way. </p><p>Please Subscribe, Follow or even write a review if you are so inclined. </p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/2268053/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>Here we have Alex and Arun embark on yet another honest conversation - with the framework of a sermon segment from Pastor Loran Livingston of Central Church in Charlotte. Certainly not a popular take but a much needed  warning to the Church. <br/>Let us know if you have any thoughts or questions. Please SHARE and SUBSCRIBE if this is something that you find interesting as we hope to have many more conversations in the near future. <br/><br/>#AgainstTheFlow<br/><br/></p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/2268053/support">Support the show</a></p><p>Thank you for joining us on AGAINST THE FLOW - with Alex Ortiz and Arun Paul. We hope that our honest conversations will provoke thought and challenge perspectives. Join as we aspire to be more like Jesus and walk in His way. </p><p>Please Subscribe, Follow or even write a review if you are so inclined. </p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Send us Fan Mail Arun takes a quick few minutes to dissect an important part of accountability within a biblical church. We are followers of Christ and need to be transparent with the truth, in all accounts. The unchurched world is watching and taking notes, so to speak.  Hope this episode is an encouragement to you.   Please follow and subscribe and SHARE.    Support the show Thank you for joining us on AGAINST THE FLOW - with Alex Ortiz and Arun Paul. We hope that our honest conve...]]></itunes:summary>
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    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/2268053/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>Arun takes a quick few minutes to dissect an important part of accountability within a biblical church. We are followers of Christ and need to be transparent with the truth, in all accounts. The unchurched world is watching and taking notes, so to speak.<br/><br/>Hope this episode is an encouragement to you. <br/><br/>Please follow and subscribe and SHARE. <br/><br/></p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/2268053/support">Support the show</a></p><p>Thank you for joining us on AGAINST THE FLOW - with Alex Ortiz and Arun Paul. We hope that our honest conversations will provoke thought and challenge perspectives. Join as we aspire to be more like Jesus and walk in His way. </p><p>Please Subscribe, Follow or even write a review if you are so inclined. </p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Send us Fan Mail Alex and Arun get together again to briefly address the principle of "running the race" and what it means in a spiritual context. In this new year along with new resolutions, it might be needful to prioritize or reset the very nature of our "run". We hope this blesses and encourages you in a little way in your daily life.   Don't give up. Stay steadfast to the call God has on your life.  Support the show Thank you for joining us on AGAINST THE FLOW - with Alex Ortiz...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/2268053/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>Alex and Arun get together again to briefly address the principle of &quot;running the race&quot; and what it means in a spiritual context. In this new year along with new resolutions, it might be needful to prioritize or reset the very nature of our &quot;run&quot;. We hope this blesses and encourages you in a little way in your daily life. <br/><br/>Don&apos;t give up. Stay steadfast to the call God has on your life. </p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/2268053/support">Support the show</a></p><p>Thank you for joining us on AGAINST THE FLOW - with Alex Ortiz and Arun Paul. We hope that our honest conversations will provoke thought and challenge perspectives. Join as we aspire to be more like Jesus and walk in His way. </p><p>Please Subscribe, Follow or even write a review if you are so inclined. </p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/2268053/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>Alex and Arun get together again to briefly address the principle of &quot;running the race&quot; and what it means in a spiritual context. In this new year along with new resolutions, it might be needful to prioritize or reset the very nature of our &quot;run&quot;. We hope this blesses and encourages you in a little way in your daily life. <br/><br/>Don&apos;t give up. Stay steadfast to the call God has on your life. </p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/2268053/support">Support the show</a></p><p>Thank you for joining us on AGAINST THE FLOW - with Alex Ortiz and Arun Paul. We hope that our honest conversations will provoke thought and challenge perspectives. Join as we aspire to be more like Jesus and walk in His way. </p><p>Please Subscribe, Follow or even write a review if you are so inclined. </p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Send us Fan Mail Alex and Arun embark on another honest, unscripted conversation touching lightly on the Christmas tradition and celebration and offer a few thoughts on how we can represent and present Jesus during this festive time. Also some thoughts on why we, as followers of Christ, should most likely continue in love and hospitality throughout the year.     Support the show Thank you for joining us on AGAINST THE FLOW - with Alex Ortiz and Arun Paul. We hope that our honest conversa...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/2268053/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>Alex and Arun embark on another honest, unscripted conversation touching lightly on the Christmas tradition and celebration and offer a few thoughts on how we can represent and present Jesus during this festive time. Also some thoughts on why we, as followers of Christ, should most likely continue in love and hospitality throughout the year. <br/><br/><br/></p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/2268053/support">Support the show</a></p><p>Thank you for joining us on AGAINST THE FLOW - with Alex Ortiz and Arun Paul. We hope that our honest conversations will provoke thought and challenge perspectives. Join as we aspire to be more like Jesus and walk in His way. </p><p>Please Subscribe, Follow or even write a review if you are so inclined. </p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/2268053/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>Alex and Arun embark on another honest, unscripted conversation touching lightly on the Christmas tradition and celebration and offer a few thoughts on how we can represent and present Jesus during this festive time. Also some thoughts on why we, as followers of Christ, should most likely continue in love and hospitality throughout the year. <br/><br/><br/></p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/2268053/support">Support the show</a></p><p>Thank you for joining us on AGAINST THE FLOW - with Alex Ortiz and Arun Paul. We hope that our honest conversations will provoke thought and challenge perspectives. Join as we aspire to be more like Jesus and walk in His way. </p><p>Please Subscribe, Follow or even write a review if you are so inclined. </p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Send us Fan Mail We are just 2 brothers, having honest and unscripted conversations in the hope of growing and learning from each other and others. We hope this is a humble platform to address questions, discuss topics relevant to the the current culture, within and outside the Church  Above all, we hope to edify, encourage and grow together and hope to have some of you, along with us on this journey.  #againstTHEflow  - Alex &amp; Arun Support the show Thank you for joining us on AGAINST THE...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/2268053/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>We are just 2 brothers, having honest and unscripted conversations in the hope of growing and learning from each other and others. We hope this is a humble platform to address questions, discuss topics relevant to the the current culture, within and outside the Church<br/><br/>Above all, we hope to edify, encourage and grow together and hope to have some of you, along with us on this journey.<br/><br/>#againstTHEflow<br/><br/>- Alex &amp; Arun</p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/2268053/support">Support the show</a></p><p>Thank you for joining us on AGAINST THE FLOW - with Alex Ortiz and Arun Paul. We hope that our honest conversations will provoke thought and challenge perspectives. Join as we aspire to be more like Jesus and walk in His way. </p><p>Please Subscribe, Follow or even write a review if you are so inclined. </p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/2268053/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>We are just 2 brothers, having honest and unscripted conversations in the hope of growing and learning from each other and others. We hope this is a humble platform to address questions, discuss topics relevant to the the current culture, within and outside the Church<br/><br/>Above all, we hope to edify, encourage and grow together and hope to have some of you, along with us on this journey.<br/><br/>#againstTHEflow<br/><br/>- Alex &amp; Arun</p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/2268053/support">Support the show</a></p><p>Thank you for joining us on AGAINST THE FLOW - with Alex Ortiz and Arun Paul. We hope that our honest conversations will provoke thought and challenge perspectives. Join as we aspire to be more like Jesus and walk in His way. </p><p>Please Subscribe, Follow or even write a review if you are so inclined. </p>]]></content:encoded>
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