In this episode, Lynn Hidy takes on my five signature “fun fact questions,” giving us a peek at the heart behind her incredible journey:

• What did you want to be when you grew up?
• What’s something you still want to do?
• What do you love most about yourself?
• What’s one thing you’d like to change?
• And… your favorite vacation spot?

Step away from the sales chaos and learn some fun facts from the founder of UpYourTeleSales.com.

About Lynn Hidy:

Lynn Hidy is the founder of UpYourTeleSales.com known for her clarity, candor, and actionable strategies. With decades in the trenches, she helps sales leaders ditch the chaos and build confident, high-performing sales teams who sell virtual get results without losing their minds (or their humor).

Resources:

Download an excerpt of her book:  https://masteringinsidesalesleadership.com/

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Want to be more successful, make more sales and grow your business? If so, you'll love this podcast. In this show, I (Kay Miller, aka "Muffler Mama,") interview superstar women from all industries. Their experience and advice will give you specific tools you can use to enjoy Uncopyable success. I earned the nickname “Muffler Mama" when sold more automotive mufflers than anyone in the world, and I've been a successful entrepreneur for over 30 years. During that time, I (along with my husband, Steve) have generated 8 figures in revenue for our business.  Besides hosting this podcast, I'm an author, speaker, coach, consultant and most importantly....Kelly's mom.

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What if your biggest growth opportunity isn’t your top performers—but your middle performers? In this episode, Lynn Heidi, founder of Up Your Telesales and author of Mastering Inside Sales Leadership, reveals how to unlock hidden revenue by focusing where most leaders don’t. 

Lynn explains why the “middle 68%” of your team holds the key to exponential growth and how small performance lifts across this group can dramatically increase results—without adding pressure or headcount. She also breaks down the difference between managing tasks and truly leading people, and why a clear vision is essential for driving engagement and performance.

You’ll learn why money isn’t the real motivator in sales, how to uncover what actually drives your team, and a smarter way to evaluate performance beyond just numbers.

If you want better results, stronger culture, and a more motivated team, this episode gives you practical strategies you can apply immediately.

About Lynn Hidy:

Lynn Hidy is the founder of UpYourTeleSales.com known for her clarity, candor, and actionable strategies. With decades in the trenches, she helps sales leaders ditch the chaos and build confident, high-performing sales teams who sell virtual get results without losing their minds (or their humor).

Resources:

Download an excerpt of her book:  https://masteringinsidesalesleadership.com/

LinkedIn

Want to be more successful, make more sales and grow your business? If so, you'll love this podcast. In this show, I (Kay Miller, aka "Muffler Mama,") interview superstar women from all industries. Their experience and advice will give you specific tools you can use to enjoy Uncopyable success. I earned the nickname “Muffler Mama" when sold more automotive mufflers than anyone in the world, and I've been a successful entrepreneur for over 30 years. During that time, I (along with my husband, Steve) have generated 8 figures in revenue for our business.  Besides hosting this podcast, I'm an author, speaker, coach, consultant and most importantly....Kelly's mom.

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In this episode, Dr. Nelva Lee takes on my five signature “fun fact questions,” giving us a peek at the heart behind her incredible journey:

• What did you want to be when you grew up?
• What’s something you still want to do?
• What do you love most about yourself?
• What’s one thing you’d like to change?
• And… your favorite vacation spot?

About Dr. Nelva Lee:

Dr. Nelva Lee is the Founder and CEO of Concrete Build Financing. Dr. Lee was also the CEO of a vocational school for 20 years, has over 20 years of experience in healthcare and over 10 years in academia as an adjunct professor for various Universities. Dr. Lee was a Governor Kemp appointed board member to the Department of Community Health. She is the Vice Chairman of the board of the Henry County Pregnancy Resource Center (Bridge Wellness South), a former Republican candidate for State Senate in District 17, and current candidate for Georgia Superintendent of Schools. Dr. Lee has authored several Christian-based books including: “Stay and Fight” and “Be the Super Hero of Your Story.” Dr. Lee volunteers at Relevant, her local church, and the Joy FM as a Prayer Partner. She was a Home-School Mom, and a Substitute Teacher for a Christian School. She has been married to her best friend Donnie for 25 years, and together they have 3 children. 

Connect with Dr. Lee:

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Want to be more successful, make more sales and grow your business? If so, you'll love this podcast. In this show, I (Kay Miller, aka "Muffler Mama,") interview superstar women from all industries. Their experience and advice will give you specific tools you can use to enjoy Uncopyable success. I earned the nickname “Muffler Mama" when sold more automotive mufflers than anyone in the world, and I've been a successful entrepreneur for over 30 years. During that time, I (along with my husband, Steve) have generated 8 figures in revenue for our business.  Besides hosting this podcast, I'm an author, speaker, coach, consultant and most importantly....Kelly's mom.

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If you’re a business owner and have ever thought, “Someone should fix this,” you’ll want to listen to this episode.

My conversation with Dr. Nelva Lee is a real-world example of what happens when someone actually does something about a problem...and turns it into a profitable business. 

Dr. Lee didn’t start with a big plan. She ran into an issue in her own work - interpreters weren’t properly trained. Instead of tolerating it, she built a solution. That solution became a business.

Here are a few ideas you can use right away:

• Pay attention to what frustrates you in your day-to-day work. That’s often where opportunity lives
 • Don’t wait for permission. She brought the idea to her boss, got turned down, and did it anyway
 • Build around outcomes, not just services. Her program trained people to be job-ready
 • Start where your audience already is. She got traction through industry associations
 • Be ready to adapt. What worked before might not work now

We also talk about why trade skills and practical experience are becoming more valuable in an AI-driven world.

If you see a problem, don’t just talk about it - do something about it.

About Dr. Nelva Lee:

Dr. Nelva Lee is the Founder and CEO of Concrete Build Financing. Dr. Lee was also the CEO of a vocational school for 20 years, has over 20 years of experience in healthcare and over 10 years in academia as an adjunct professor for various Universities. Dr. Lee was a Governor Kemp appointed board member to the Department of Community Health. She is the Vice Chairman of the board of the Henry County Pregnancy Resource Center (Bridge Wellness South), a former Republican candidate for State Senate in District 17, and current candidate for Georgia Superintendent of Schools. Dr. Lee has authored several Christian-based books including: “Stay and Fight” and “Be the Super Hero of Your Story.” Dr. Lee volunteers at Relevant, her local church, and the Joy FM as a Prayer Partner. She was a Home-School Mom, and a Substitute Teacher for a Christian School. She has been married to her best friend Donnie for 25 years, and together they have 3 children. 

Connect with Dr. Lee:

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Want to be more successful, make more sales and grow your business? If so, you'll love this podcast. In this show, I (Kay Miller, aka "Muffler Mama,") interview superstar women from all industries. Their experience and advice will give you specific tools you can use to enjoy Uncopyable success. I earned the nickname “Muffler Mama" when sold more automotive mufflers than anyone in the world, and I've been a successful entrepreneur for over 30 years. During that time, I (along with my husband, Steve) have generated 8 figures in revenue for our business.  Besides hosting this podcast, I'm an author, speaker, coach, consultant and most importantly....Kelly's mom.

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In this episode, Sara Vezensek takes on my five signature “fun fact questions,” giving us a peek at the heart behind her incredible journey:

• What did you want to be when you grew up?
• What’s something you still want to do?
• What do you love most about yourself?
• What’s one thing you’d like to change?
• And… your favorite vacation spot?

Listen now to discover her fascinating journey to building a freedom-based coaching business.

About Sara Vezensek:

Sara Vezensek grew up in Slovenia, a place where the luxury yacht world wasn’t even something people believed was real outside of movies. But by her early 20s, she was living it: working as a private chef on superyachts, flying private, managing million-dollar deals, and earning $15K/month. From the outside, it looked like a dream. But on the inside, she felt trapped, constantly on call, and completely disconnected from her own freedom and purpose. 

Now, she’s an online business coach and mentor who helps ambitious women turn their lived experience into profitable, freedom-based businesses. Sara is known for helping her clients package their brilliance into high-impact offers, shift their money mindset, and finally stop trading time for money. She’s bold, real, and passionate about showing women how to build a business that actually supports the life they want.

Resources:

Masterclasses:

• Million Dollar Course Idea
• 100k in sales masterclass

Website

Instagram

Want to be more successful, make more sales and grow your business? If so, you'll love this podcast. In this show, I (Kay Miller, aka "Muffler Mama,") interview superstar women from all industries. Their experience and advice will give you specific tools you can use to enjoy Uncopyable success. I earned the nickname “Muffler Mama" when sold more automotive mufflers than anyone in the world, and I've been a successful entrepreneur for over 30 years. During that time, I (along with my husband, Steve) have generated 8 figures in revenue for our business.  Besides hosting this podcast, I'm an author, speaker, coach, consultant and most importantly....Kelly's mom.

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Sara Vezensek joins the podcast to share her journey from managing super yachts to building a freedom-based coaching business. She describes her former high-stakes career as "golden handcuffs" and explains why she traded 18-hour days for an online model that prioritizes time and choice. 

Sara breaks down her "Three Ps" triangle—passion, problem, and profit—to help you identify a million-dollar course idea that actually sells. We discuss why you don't need a massive following to hit significant income goals and how she helped a client earn 10k a month with fewer than 70 followers. 

You will learn how to transition from low-ticket products to high-ticket subscriptions that incorporate personalized support without draining your schedule. 

About Sara Vezensek:

Sara Vezensek grew up in Slovenia, a place where the luxury yacht world wasn’t even something people believed was real outside of movies. But by her early 20s, she was living it: working as a private chef on superyachts, flying private, managing million-dollar deals, and earning $15K/month. From the outside, it looked like a dream. But on the inside, she felt trapped, constantly on call, and completely disconnected from her own freedom and purpose. 

Now, she’s an online business coach and mentor who helps ambitious women turn their lived experience into profitable, freedom-based businesses. Sara is known for helping her clients package their brilliance into high-impact offers, shift their money mindset, and finally stop trading time for money. She’s bold, real, and passionate about showing women how to build a business that actually supports the life they want.

Resources:

Masterclasses:

• Million Dollar Course Idea
• 100k in sales masterclass

Website

Instagram

Want to be more successful, make more sales and grow your business? If so, you'll love this podcast. In this show, I (Kay Miller, aka "Muffler Mama,") interview superstar women from all industries. Their experience and advice will give you specific tools you can use to enjoy Uncopyable success. I earned the nickname “Muffler Mama" when sold more automotive mufflers than anyone in the world, and I've been a successful entrepreneur for over 30 years. During that time, I (along with my husband, Steve) have generated 8 figures in revenue for our business.  Besides hosting this podcast, I'm an author, speaker, coach, consultant and most importantly....Kelly's mom.

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In this episode, Coreen Cordova takes on my five signature “fun fact questions,” giving us a peek at the heart behind her incredible journey:

• What did you want to be when you grew up?
• What’s something you still want to do?
• What do you love most about yourself?
• What’s one thing you’d like to change?
• And… your favorite vacation spot?

Listen now to know why it's never too late to reinvent yourself or your business.

About Coreen Cordova:

Coreen spent 35 years in the beauty industry where she owned several cosmetic salons on San Francisco’s Union Square and then became the National spokeswoman for the beauty division of a major corporation. For 15 years she was also a celebrity makeup and fashion expert on ABC (local and National ). After living in Mexico ( San Miguel Allende) for a year and took a silversmith apprenticeship, she began her second major career designing and manufacturing jewelry. She has been designing jewelry now for 25 years and has sold her designs in Saks and Neiman Marcus as well as hundreds of boutiques around the US

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Want to be more successful, make more sales and grow your business? If so, you'll love this podcast. In this show, I (Kay Miller, aka "Muffler Mama,") interview superstar women from all industries. Their experience and advice will give you specific tools you can use to enjoy Uncopyable success. I earned the nickname “Muffler Mama" when sold more automotive mufflers than anyone in the world, and I've been a successful entrepreneur for over 30 years. During that time, I (along with my husband, Steve) have generated 8 figures in revenue for our business.  Besides hosting this podcast, I'm an author, speaker, coach, consultant and most importantly....Kelly's mom.

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Thinking about reinventing your life or starting something new?

This episode shows how one woman did exactly that at 55—and built a thriving creative business.

Which begs the question: What if the most exciting chapter of YOUR life hasn’t happened yet?

My guest today, Coreen Cordova, proves it’s never too late to reinvent yourself. After 35 years in the beauty industry, Coreen walked away from a successful career, traveled to Mexico, learned silversmithing, and built a bold jewelry brand inspired by culture, color, and personal expression.

Today her designs are collected by women worldwide, who want their style to tell their story.

I loved the lessons she shared that any entrepreneur can apply:

Turn frustration into opportunity
When Coreen was ignored by plastic surgeons she tried to partner with, she tracked the referrals she sent them and returned a year later with proof of the business she generated.

Let curiosity sell for you
Coreen wears her bold jewelry everywhere—grocery store, events, lunch. The pieces spark conversations that naturally turn into customers.

Don't get the wrong idea: it wasn't always easy: Coreen described sitting in a chair crying because her business wasn’t working. Instead of quitting, she asked herself one simple question:

“What needs to change?”

That shift—from frustration to curiosity—became a turning point in her career.

Ask yourself:

What am I passionate enough about to build something around?

When you lean into your creativity and personality, you create something no one else can copy.

About Coreen Cordova:

Explore Coreen’s work:  coreencordova.comCoreen spent 35 years in the beauty industry where she owned several cosmetic salons on San Francisco’s Union Square and then became the National spokeswoman for the beauty division of a major corporation. For 15 years she was also a celebrity makeup and fashion expert on ABC (local and National ). After living in Mexico ( San Miguel Allende) for a year and took a silversmith apprenticeship, she began her second major career designing and manufacturing jewelry. She has been designing jewelry now for 25 years and has sold her designs in Saks and Neiman Marcus as well as hundreds of boutiques around the US

Reach Coreen:

Website

Want to be more successful, make more sales and grow your business? If so, you'll love this podcast. In this show, I (Kay Miller, aka "Muffler Mama,") interview superstar women from all industries. Their experience and advice will give you specific tools you can use to enjoy Uncopyable success. I earned the nickname “Muffler Mama" when sold more automotive mufflers than anyone in the world, and I've been a successful entrepreneur for over 30 years. During that time, I (along with my husband, Steve) have generated 8 figures in revenue for our business.  Besides hosting this podcast, I'm an author, speaker, coach, consultant and most importantly....Kelly's mom.

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In this episode, Liz Wendling takes on my five signature “fun fact questions,” giving us a peek at the heart behind her incredible journey:

• What did you want to be when you grew up?
• What’s something you still want to do?
• What do you love most about yourself?
• What’s one thing you’d like to change?
• And… your favorite vacation spot?

 Step away from the pitch and into a real, human-first conversation about the future of client conversion. 

Want to be more successful, make more sales and grow your business? If so, you'll love this podcast. In this show, I (Kay Miller, aka "Muffler Mama,") interview superstar women from all industries. Their experience and advice will give you specific tools you can use to enjoy Uncopyable success. I earned the nickname “Muffler Mama" when sold more automotive mufflers than anyone in the world, and I've been a successful entrepreneur for over 30 years. During that time, I (along with my husband, Steve) have generated 8 figures in revenue for our business.  Besides hosting this podcast, I'm an author, speaker, coach, consultant and most importantly....Kelly's mom.

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In this conversation, Liz Wendling shares how to stop sounding like a walking brochure and start communicating with real human emotion. 

We dig into why "checking in" on a lead is a waste of time, the importance of shifting from a sales pitch to a collaborative dialogue, and how to stop apologizing for your price. You will learn how to refine your language to reflect your true value, how to lead a sales process without being pushy, and why your tone of voice is often more important than the words you choose. Liz provides the tools to transform your approach so you can close deals with confidence and integrity. 

About Liz Wendling:

Liz Wendling is a nationally recognized speaker, sales consultant, and author of The Heart of Authentic Selling and Sell Without Selling Your Soul. Liz is driven by the mantra, It's not WHAT you sell, it's HOW you sell that matters. Liz understands the sales challenges professionals face when selling in today's competitive environment. She shows them how to make a profound difference in their sales approach, language, and process. Whether for her one-on-one consulting, group coaching, multiple-day training, or workshops, Liz will customize her Sales Clinic Programs around the specific needs, challenges, and objectives a business faces. Liz has coached thousands of professionals to build solid business skills, develop a success mindset, exceed sales expectations, and prosper in any economy.

Connect with Liz Wendling:

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Website

Want to be more successful, make more sales and grow your business? If so, you'll love this podcast. In this show, I (Kay Miller, aka "Muffler Mama,") interview superstar women from all industries. Their experience and advice will give you specific tools you can use to enjoy Uncopyable success. I earned the nickname “Muffler Mama" when sold more automotive mufflers than anyone in the world, and I've been a successful entrepreneur for over 30 years. During that time, I (along with my husband, Steve) have generated 8 figures in revenue for our business.  Besides hosting this podcast, I'm an author, speaker, coach, consultant and most importantly....Kelly's mom.

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In this episode, Madeleine Lambert takes on my five signature “fun fact questions,” giving us a peek at the heart behind her incredible journey:

• What did you want to be when you grew up?
• What’s something you still want to do?
• What do you love most about yourself?
• What’s one thing you’d like to change?
• And… your favorite vacation spot?

Get an authentic look at the person behind the technology in this candid, human-first conversation. You won’t want to miss these insights on the future of content integrity! 

About Madeleine Lambert:

Madeleine Lambert is a mom of three, entrepreneur, and the Director of Marketing and Sales at Originality.AI. She has dedicated her career to helping creators and marketers navigate the complexities of an AI-driven world. At Originality.AI, she leads strategic growth by overseeing an integrated funnel that includes content strategy, digital PR, and influencer programs, all designed to redefine content integrity and drive brand trust.

Partnering directly with the founder, Madeleine translates complex market behavior into scalable strategies that align product and brand for sustainable growth. She is a global speaker passionate about inspiring women to step into leadership, take risks, and build high-performance teams. By combining data-driven insights with creative execution, she focuses on authentic, evidence-based marketing that balances innovation with impact

Connect with Madeleine:

Website

Case Studies

LinkedIn

Want to be more successful, make more sales and grow your business? If so, you'll love this podcast. In this show, I (Kay Miller, aka "Muffler Mama,") interview superstar women from all industries. Their experience and advice will give you specific tools you can use to enjoy Uncopyable success. I earned the nickname “Muffler Mama" when sold more automotive mufflers than anyone in the world, and I've been a successful entrepreneur for over 30 years. During that time, I (along with my husband, Steve) have generated 8 figures in revenue for our business.  Besides hosting this podcast, I'm an author, speaker, coach, consultant and most importantly....Kelly's mom.

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In this episode, Madeleine shares the "catastrophic" impact generative AI has had on traditional content businesses and why she built a tool to validate quality and detect AI-driven work. 

We discuss how Google is penalizing AI-generated content at scale and the importance of maintaining an authentic brand voice to stay competitive. Madeleine also dives into her strategies for "proceduralizing" her businesses to create a better work-life balance and why "LLM visibility" is the new frontier of SEO. 

You’ll learn how to get your brand cited in large language models, the risks of AI hallucinations, and why being referred to on platforms like Reddit and LinkedIn is now more important than ever.

About Madeleine Lambert:

Madeleine Lambert is a mom of three, entrepreneur, and the Director of Marketing and Sales at Originality.AI. She has dedicated her career to helping creators and marketers navigate the complexities of an AI-driven world. At Originality.AI, she leads strategic growth by overseeing an integrated funnel that includes content strategy, digital PR, and influencer programs, all designed to redefine content integrity and drive brand trust.

Partnering directly with the founder, Madeleine translates complex market behavior into scalable strategies that align product and brand for sustainable growth. She is a global speaker passionate about inspiring women to step into leadership, take risks, and build high-performance teams. By combining data-driven insights with creative execution, she focuses on authentic, evidence-based marketing that balances innovation with impact

Connect with Madeleine:

Website

Case Studies

LinkedIn

Want to be more successful, make more sales and grow your business? If so, you'll love this podcast. In this show, I (Kay Miller, aka "Muffler Mama,") interview superstar women from all industries. Their experience and advice will give you specific tools you can use to enjoy Uncopyable success. I earned the nickname “Muffler Mama" when sold more automotive mufflers than anyone in the world, and I've been a successful entrepreneur for over 30 years. During that time, I (along with my husband, Steve) have generated 8 figures in revenue for our business.  Besides hosting this podcast, I'm an author, speaker, coach, consultant and most importantly....Kelly's mom.

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In this episode, Karen Kelly takes on my five signature “fun fact questions,” giving us a peek at the heart behind her incredible journey:

• What did you want to be when you grew up?
• What’s something you still want to do?
• What do you love most about yourself?
• What’s one thing you’d like to change?
• And… your favorite vacation spot?

Step behind the scenes with Karen Kelly, the force behind the K2 Performance Consulting and the K2 Sales Academy, as she reveals the stories and strategies that have defined her 20+ year career in this unmissable episode! 

Want to be more successful, make more sales and grow your business? If so, you'll love this podcast. In this show, I (Kay Miller, aka "Muffler Mama,") interview superstar women from all industries. Their experience and advice will give you specific tools you can use to enjoy Uncopyable success. I earned the nickname “Muffler Mama" when sold more automotive mufflers than anyone in the world, and I've been a successful entrepreneur for over 30 years. During that time, I (along with my husband, Steve) have generated 8 figures in revenue for our business.  Besides hosting this podcast, I'm an author, speaker, coach, consultant and most importantly....Kelly's mom.

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In this conversation, Karen Kelly, founder and CEO of K2 Performance Consulting and the K2 Sales Academy shares how she found her way into sales and why the pushy salesperson stereotype still holds so many people back. We talk about mindset as the real driver of performance, how emotional intelligence builds trust without weakening the close, and why so-called soft skills often lead to stronger results. 

Karen walks through her three-part approach to getting stalled deals moving again, starting with how salespeople show up mentally before applying tactics or tools. 

This episode takes a practical, straightforward look at selling in a way that feels human, confident, and sustainable.

About Karen Kelly:

Karen Kelly is a seasoned sales professional with a passion for empowering sales professionals and business owners to achieve sales excellence. With over 20 years of experience in the industry, Karen has honed her skills as a dynamic sales trainer, coach and speaker to help sales professionals unlock their full potential. Karen brings a unique blend of expertise, energy, and practicality to her clients. She understands the challenges faced by sales and business owners firsthand. Her sessions are known to rehumanize the sales process. Instilling belief, actions and confidence that drive tangible results for her clients.

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Want to be more successful, make more sales and grow your business? If so, you'll love this podcast. In this show, I (Kay Miller, aka "Muffler Mama,") interview superstar women from all industries. Their experience and advice will give you specific tools you can use to enjoy Uncopyable success. I earned the nickname “Muffler Mama" when sold more automotive mufflers than anyone in the world, and I've been a successful entrepreneur for over 30 years. During that time, I (along with my husband, Steve) have generated 8 figures in revenue for our business.  Besides hosting this podcast, I'm an author, speaker, coach, consultant and most importantly....Kelly's mom.

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In this episode, Leslie Lautenslager takes on my five signature “fun fact questions,” giving us a peek at the heart behind her incredible journey:

• What did you want to be when you grew up?
• What’s something you still want to do?
• What do you love most about yourself?
• What’s one thing you’d like to change?
• And… your favorite vacation spot?

See the person behind the protocol in this quick, candid conversation. You won’t want to miss it! 

About Leslie Lautenslager:

Leslie Lautenslager is a distinguished protocol expert with a career spanning over three decades of high-level diplomacy and international relations. Beginning her journey in 1986 at Blair House, she managed state visits and led presidential delegations before transitioning to the private sector as the event manager for General Colin L. Powell. She served as a trusted advisor and liaison to the General for 25 years, including his tenure as U.S. Secretary of State, where she was the Assistant Chief of Protocol for Ceremonials. 

Beyond her government service, Lautenslager is a global leader in her field, having served as President of Protocol & Diplomacy – Protocol Officers Association from 2016 to 2020. An accomplished author and trainer, she penned the memoir "My Time with General Colin Powell" and has contributed to several academic texts on international etiquette. A graduate of the College of William & Mary, she is now an internationally recognized speaker who trains prestigious organizations like the U.S. Chamber of Commerce and the Peace Corps in the art of diplomatic and corporate relations.

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Want to be more successful, make more sales and grow your business? If so, you'll love this podcast. In this show, I (Kay Miller, aka "Muffler Mama,") interview superstar women from all industries. Their experience and advice will give you specific tools you can use to enjoy Uncopyable success. I earned the nickname “Muffler Mama" when sold more automotive mufflers than anyone in the world, and I've been a successful entrepreneur for over 30 years. During that time, I (along with my husband, Steve) have generated 8 figures in revenue for our business.  Besides hosting this podcast, I'm an author, speaker, coach, consultant and most importantly....Kelly's mom.

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This episode is Part 2 of my delightful conversation with Leslie Lautenslager. She gives more behind-the-scenes examples that show who General Powell was away from the spotlight. She shares insights on respect, trust, HUMOR (!), and the quiet moments that defined their working relationship.

Leslie also reflects on fear, responsibility, and what it means to serve at the highest levels of leadership. She shares the moments that scared her, the lessons she learned by being “thrown into the deep end,” and why protocol work is never about being seen, but about making others feel respected and safe.

Our conversation closes with reflections on General Powell’s friendships, legacy, and why Leslie ultimately felt called to write the book she once believed she never could.

About Leslie Lautenslager:

Leslie Lautenslager is a distinguished protocol expert with a career spanning over three decades of high-level diplomacy and international relations. Beginning her journey in 1986 at Blair House, she managed state visits and led presidential delegations before transitioning to the private sector as the event manager for General Colin L. Powell. She served as a trusted advisor and liaison to the General for 25 years, including his tenure as U.S. Secretary of State, where she was the Assistant Chief of Protocol for Ceremonials. 

Beyond her government service, Lautenslager is a global leader in her field, having served as President of Protocol & Diplomacy – Protocol Officers Association from 2016 to 2020. An accomplished author and trainer, she penned the memoir "My Time with General Colin Powell" and has contributed to several academic texts on international etiquette. A graduate of the College of William & Mary, she is now an internationally recognized speaker who trains prestigious organizations like the U.S. Chamber of Commerce and the Peace Corps in the art of diplomatic and corporate relations.

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In this episode, Leslie Lautenslager shares personal insights from her 25 years serving as a trusted advisor and protocol expert for General Colin L. Powell. Leslie discusses the "art and science" of protocol, explaining how formal rules provide a framework for building international relationships while kindness dictates when those rules should be finessed. We explore her unique journey from a double major in psychology and fine arts to the U.S. State Department, and eventually to her pivotal role managing General Powell’s international speaking circuit and his office during his tenure as Secretary of State.

The conversation dives into the General’s "love note" system—a rigorous training method he used to ensure his staff remained "in harmonic" with his high standards and expectations. Leslie also highlights the simple but profound power of the handwritten thank-you note, a practice both she and the General credited for opening doors and maintaining deep professional respect. You will learn how to prepare for high-stakes leadership, why treating everyone with respect is the ultimate diplomatic tool, and what it was like to work alongside a leader who was a constant student of the world.

About Leslie Lautenslager:

Leslie Lautenslager is a distinguished protocol expert with a career spanning over three decades of high-level diplomacy and international relations. Beginning her journey in 1986 at Blair House, she managed state visits and led presidential delegations before transitioning to the private sector as the event manager for General Colin L. Powell. She served as a trusted advisor and liaison to the General for 25 years, including his tenure as U.S. Secretary of State, where she was the Assistant Chief of Protocol for Ceremonials. 

Beyond her government service, Lautenslager is a global leader in her field, having served as President of Protocol & Diplomacy – Protocol Officers Association from 2016 to 2020. An accomplished author and trainer, she penned the memoir "My Time with General Colin Powell" and has contributed to several academic texts on international etiquette. A graduate of the College of William & Mary, she is now an internationally recognized speaker who trains prestigious organizations like the U.S. Chamber of Commerce and the Peace Corps in the art of diplomatic and corporate relations.

Connect with Leslie:

Website

LinkedIn

Want to be more successful, make more sales and grow your business? If so, you'll love this podcast. In this show, I (Kay Miller, aka "Muffler Mama,") interview superstar women from all industries. Their experience and advice will give you specific tools you can use to enjoy Uncopyable success. I earned the nickname “Muffler Mama" when sold more automotive mufflers than anyone in the world, and I've been a successful entrepreneur for over 30 years. During that time, I (along with my husband, Steve) have generated 8 figures in revenue for our business.  Besides hosting this podcast, I'm an author, speaker, coach, consultant and most importantly....Kelly's mom.

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In this short solo episode, I share a story about how one small change at my annual mammogram appointment wrecked the experience right at the finish line.

For years, the place I go to has made an uncomfortable procedure feel as pleasant as possible — warm robes, kind technicians, and a smooth checkout. I’ve recommended them to other women because they always made things easy.

But this time, it was different. They made a small change - and detracted from the entire experience. 

Want to be more successful, make more sales and grow your business? If so, you'll love this podcast. In this show, I (Kay Miller, aka "Muffler Mama,") interview superstar women from all industries. Their experience and advice will give you specific tools you can use to enjoy Uncopyable success. I earned the nickname “Muffler Mama" when sold more automotive mufflers than anyone in the world, and I've been a successful entrepreneur for over 30 years. During that time, I (along with my husband, Steve) have generated 8 figures in revenue for our business.  Besides hosting this podcast, I'm an author, speaker, coach, consultant and most importantly....Kelly's mom.

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In this episode, Kendra Corman takes on my five signature “fun fact questions,” giving us a peek at the heart behind her incredible journey:

• What did you want to be when you grew up?
• What’s something you still want to do?
• What do you love most about yourself?
• What’s one thing you’d like to change?
• And… your favorite vacation spot?

Step behind the scenes in this candid and insightful conversation. Learn more about the founder of Imperfect Marketing and author of Mastering AI in Communications — and you’ll see the person behind the progress. You won’t want to miss it! 

About Kendra Corman:

Kendra Corman is a marketing strategist who spent years managing marketing and advertising for many brands including Jeep before starting her own agency. Now she helps businesses cut through the noise with email marketing, AI tools, and podcasting. She's the author of "Mastering AI In Communications" and loves turning complicated marketing stuff into strategies people can actually use.

Connect with Kendra:

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Want to be more successful, make more sales and grow your business? If so, you'll love this podcast. In this show, I (Kay Miller, aka "Muffler Mama,") interview superstar women from all industries. Their experience and advice will give you specific tools you can use to enjoy Uncopyable success. I earned the nickname “Muffler Mama" when sold more automotive mufflers than anyone in the world, and I've been a successful entrepreneur for over 30 years. During that time, I (along with my husband, Steve) have generated 8 figures in revenue for our business.  Besides hosting this podcast, I'm an author, speaker, coach, consultant and most importantly....Kelly's mom.

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In this conversation, Kendra Corman, a marketing strategist, joins the show to share her remarkable journey from starting in a Jeep call center to becoming the Jeep Advertising Manager for North America before successfully launching her own agency, Imperfect Marketing. 

She is also the author of Mastering AI in Communications. Kendra explains that her agency's philosophy of "imperfect marketing" means focusing on progress, not perfection, which is the key to accelerating growth and avoiding the paralysis caused by the fear of needing to do everything right. She encourages listeners to move forward, knowing that mistakes can always be fixed, and "nobody died" in the making of a minor marketing error. 

About Kendra Corman:

Kendra Corman is a marketing strategist who spent years managing marketing and advertising for many brands including Jeep before starting her own agency. Now she helps businesses cut through the noise with email marketing, AI tools, and podcasting. She's the author of "Mastering AI In Communications" and loves turning complicated marketing stuff into strategies people can actually use.

Connect with Kendra:

Linkedin

Website

Want to be more successful, make more sales and grow your business? If so, you'll love this podcast. In this show, I (Kay Miller, aka "Muffler Mama,") interview superstar women from all industries. Their experience and advice will give you specific tools you can use to enjoy Uncopyable success. I earned the nickname “Muffler Mama" when sold more automotive mufflers than anyone in the world, and I've been a successful entrepreneur for over 30 years. During that time, I (along with my husband, Steve) have generated 8 figures in revenue for our business.  Besides hosting this podcast, I'm an author, speaker, coach, consultant and most importantly....Kelly's mom.

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In this episode, Annette Richmond takes on my five signature “fun fact questions,” giving us a peek at the heart behind her incredible journey:

• What did you want to be when you grew up?
• What’s something you still want to do?
• What do you love most about yourself?
• What’s one thing you’d like to change?
• And… your favorite vacation spot?

Step behind the scenes in this candid and insightful conversation. Learn more about the founder of Black Dog Marketing Strategies and career‑branding specialist — and you’ll see the person behind the purpose. You won’t want to miss it!

Want to be more successful, make more sales and grow your business? If so, you'll love this podcast. In this show, I (Kay Miller, aka "Muffler Mama,") interview superstar women from all industries. Their experience and advice will give you specific tools you can use to enjoy Uncopyable success. I earned the nickname “Muffler Mama" when sold more automotive mufflers than anyone in the world, and I've been a successful entrepreneur for over 30 years. During that time, I (along with my husband, Steve) have generated 8 figures in revenue for our business.  Besides hosting this podcast, I'm an author, speaker, coach, consultant and most importantly....Kelly's mom.

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In this episode, I talk with Annette Richmond about why video feels so intimidating for so many of us—and how to make the whole process less overwhelming. Annette and I address the self-criticism that shows up the moment a camera turns on, and how to get over ourselves!

Annette provides some simple ways to ease into video without the pressure of perfection, and shares her 14-day method for reducing on-camera anxiety and - and explain why recording one short line at a time keeps the energy natural and the process manageable. 

Learn how to simplify your video process, create content that feels "real," and build confidence through small, consistent steps. Because imperfect video always beats waiting for perfect!

About Annette Richmond:

Annette Richmond, MA, founder of Black Dog Marketing Strategies, is a video-first social media strategist who helps consultants, entrepreneurs, and teams stop dreading video so they can show up confidently online and grow their visibility and business. A former magazine writer who studied media in college, Annette has long been drawn to broadcasting and video. Over the past five years, she has launched two podcasts, most recently Content Marketing School, a mix of solo episodes and interviews with industry experts. A frequent podcast guest and speaker, Annette has presented at the ATD New England Regional Conference, the SOCT SHRM HR Professional Development Summit, and Podfest Masterclass: AI & Creator Tools (virtual). She holds a BA in English from Sacred Heart University (Fairfield, CT) and an MA in Psychology from Fairfield University (Fairfield, CT). 

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Want to be more successful, make more sales and grow your business? If so, you'll love this podcast. In this show, I (Kay Miller, aka "Muffler Mama,") interview superstar women from all industries. Their experience and advice will give you specific tools you can use to enjoy Uncopyable success. I earned the nickname “Muffler Mama" when sold more automotive mufflers than anyone in the world, and I've been a successful entrepreneur for over 30 years. During that time, I (along with my husband, Steve) have generated 8 figures in revenue for our business.  Besides hosting this podcast, I'm an author, speaker, coach, consultant and most importantly....Kelly's mom.

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In this episode, Noelle Robinson takes on my five signature fun fact questions, giving us a peek at the heart behind her impressive career and leadership style:

• What did you want to be when you grew up?
•  What’s something you still want to do?
•  What do you love most about yourself?
•  What’s one thing you’d like to change?
•  And… your favorite vacation spot?

This brief conversation reveals the gentle curiosity and grounded presence that shape Noelle’s work in sound therapy. It’s a chance to meet the heart behind the healing.

About Noelle J. Robinson:

Noelle Jae Robinson is the founder of The Sound Spa and a holistic wellness practitioner specializing in sound therapy for nervous-system regulation, emotional healing, and physical restoration. A former teacher, Noelle blends evidence-based practices with immersive sound to help women release stress, reset their physiology, and lead with grounded confidence. Through studio experiences, memberships, and on-demand content in sleep, meditation, and self-care practices, Noelle makes cultivating inner peace practical and repeatable. She’s on a mission to be a warrior for peace—showing why regulated rhythm is the secret to being uncopyable in work, relationships, and life.

Reach Noelle:

The Sound Spa

Facebook

LinkedIn

On-Demand Membership: The Sound Spa App

Download on Google Play

Download on App Store

Want to be more successful, make more sales and grow your business? If so, you'll love this podcast. In this show, I (Kay Miller, aka "Muffler Mama,") interview superstar women from all industries. Their experience and advice will give you specific tools you can use to enjoy Uncopyable success. I earned the nickname “Muffler Mama" when sold more automotive mufflers than anyone in the world, and I've been a successful entrepreneur for over 30 years. During that time, I (along with my husband, Steve) have generated 8 figures in revenue for our business.  Besides hosting this podcast, I'm an author, speaker, coach, consultant and most importantly....Kelly's mom.

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In this fascinating conversation, Noelle shares her bold transition from teaching for ten years, including the difficult COVID era, to entrepreneurship, driven by her own challenging health journey.

Noelle demystifies therapeutic sound therapy and discusses the critical lesson she learned about protecting her own well-being while building a successful business around her passion. 

She details how sound, specifically the vibrations from gongs and crystal bowls, healed her chronic pain and led her off long-term medications, giving her a powerful "why" for her business...and a natural health remedy for her customers. 

About Noelle J. Robinson:

Noelle Jae Robinson is the founder of The Sound Spa and a holistic wellness practitioner specializing in sound therapy for nervous-system regulation, emotional healing, and physical restoration. A former teacher, Noelle blends evidence-based practices with immersive sound to help women release stress, reset their physiology, and lead with grounded confidence. Through studio experiences, memberships, and on-demand content in sleep, meditation, and self-care practices, Noelle makes cultivating inner peace practical and repeatable. She’s on a mission to be a warrior for peace—showing why regulated rhythm is the secret to being uncopyable in work, relationships, and life.

Reach Noelle:

The Sound Spa

Facebook

LinkedIn

On-Demand Membership: The Sound Spa App

Download on Google Play

Download on App Store

Want to be more successful, make more sales and grow your business? If so, you'll love this podcast. In this show, I (Kay Miller, aka "Muffler Mama,") interview superstar women from all industries. Their experience and advice will give you specific tools you can use to enjoy Uncopyable success. I earned the nickname “Muffler Mama" when sold more automotive mufflers than anyone in the world, and I've been a successful entrepreneur for over 30 years. During that time, I (along with my husband, Steve) have generated 8 figures in revenue for our business.  Besides hosting this podcast, I'm an author, speaker, coach, consultant and most importantly....Kelly's mom.

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In this episode, Shannon Plumb takes on my five signature fun fact questions, giving us a peek at the heart behind her impressive career and leadership style:

• What did you want to be when you grew up?
•  What’s something you still want to do?
•  What do you love most about yourself?
•  What’s one thing you’d like to change?
•  And… your favorite vacation spot?

It’s a short, honest, and surprisingly insightful way to meet the woman behind the success shaping bold marketing strategies, executive presence, and customer-first leadership.

About Shannon Plumb:

Shannon Plumb is the CEO of Purl Advisors and leads the Authentic Leader Revolution, helping growth-stage leaders scale sustainably without losing their soul. Over 20+ years, she has driven over $100M in revenue growth across multiple successful acquisitions, transforming organizations from startup to enterprise scale through relationship-driven leadership approaches. Her unique journey from professional ballerina to Fortune 500 Enterprise Sales Executive to Chief Revenue Officer gives her unparalleled insight into how authentic presence translates into business results. Shannon specializes in helping leaders stop following someone else's playbook and start writing their own, turning their natural strengths into their competitive advantage.

Reach Shannon:

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Want to be more successful, make more sales and grow your business? If so, you'll love this podcast. In this show, I (Kay Miller, aka "Muffler Mama,") interview superstar women from all industries. Their experience and advice will give you specific tools you can use to enjoy Uncopyable success. I earned the nickname “Muffler Mama" when sold more automotive mufflers than anyone in the world, and I've been a successful entrepreneur for over 30 years. During that time, I (along with my husband, Steve) have generated 8 figures in revenue for our business.  Besides hosting this podcast, I'm an author, speaker, coach, consultant and most importantly....Kelly's mom.

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In this conversation, Shannon shares how her early identity as a dancer influenced her resilience, how retail work sharpened her ability to understand buyers, and how bold career moves taught her to trust her instincts. She discusses the difference between leaders who “do the work” and those who empower others, why personal branding is no longer optional, and how authenticity has become a true competitive advantage in a world where AI makes everything feel increasingly polished and impersonal.

Today, Shannon helps executives reclaim their voice, align their values with their work, and lead without sacrificing who they are. She also reveals her PROVEN framework—a practical way to assess whether a situation aligns with your goals, boundaries, and well-being.

About Shannon Plumb:

Shannon Plumb is the CEO of Purl Advisors and leads the Authentic Leader Revolution, helping growth-stage leaders scale sustainably without losing their soul. Over 20+ years, she has driven over $100M in revenue growth across multiple successful acquisitions, transforming organizations from startup to enterprise scale through relationship-driven leadership approaches. Her unique journey from professional ballerina to Fortune 500 Enterprise Sales Executive to Chief Revenue Officer gives her unparalleled insight into how authentic presence translates into business results. Shannon specializes in helping leaders stop following someone else's playbook and start writing their own, turning their natural strengths into their competitive advantage.

Reach Shannon:

LinkedIn

Website

Want to be more successful, make more sales and grow your business? If so, you'll love this podcast. In this show, I (Kay Miller, aka "Muffler Mama,") interview superstar women from all industries. Their experience and advice will give you specific tools you can use to enjoy Uncopyable success. I earned the nickname “Muffler Mama" when sold more automotive mufflers than anyone in the world, and I've been a successful entrepreneur for over 30 years. During that time, I (along with my husband, Steve) have generated 8 figures in revenue for our business.  Besides hosting this podcast, I'm an author, speaker, coach, consultant and most importantly....Kelly's mom.

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In this bonus episode, Colleen Stanley—president of Sales Leadership Inc. and the number one Sales Global Guru for 2024—joins me for my five-question feature, offering a personal look behind her decades of leadership and expertise in emotional intelligence.

It’s a brief, candid glimpse into the woman known for shaping stronger sales leaders and helping teams communicate with greater empathy and clarity.

This short conversation reveals the thoughtful, grounded personality behind her global influence and bestselling work.

About Colleen Stanley:

Colleen Stanley is the president and founder of Sales Leadership Inc. and one of the most respected voices in sales development and emotional intelligence. Named the number one Sales Global Guru for 2024—and recognized by Salesforce as a top sales influencer of the 21st century—she has appeared on the Top 30 Global Sales Gurus list for eight consecutive years. Colleen is the author of the widely translated books Emotional Intelligence for Sales Success and Emotional Intelligence for Sales Leadership. Her newest book, Be the Mentor Who Mattered, co-authored with Leanne Teman, highlights how meaningful mentorship often happens in a single moment, conversation, or act of encouragement, drawing on stories from their own experiences and 25 contributors.

Her clients include organizations such as Harvard Business Review Poland, IBM, Otterbox, Gallagher, PCL Construction, and Bosch Rexroth. When she isn’t teaching or speaking, Colleen enjoys hiking the Colorado outdoors with her husband.

Reach Colleen:

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Want to be more successful, make more sales and grow your business? If so, you'll love this podcast. In this show, I (Kay Miller, aka "Muffler Mama,") interview superstar women from all industries. Their experience and advice will give you specific tools you can use to enjoy Uncopyable success. I earned the nickname “Muffler Mama" when sold more automotive mufflers than anyone in the world, and I've been a successful entrepreneur for over 30 years. During that time, I (along with my husband, Steve) have generated 8 figures in revenue for our business.  Besides hosting this podcast, I'm an author, speaker, coach, consultant and most importantly....Kelly's mom.

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In this conversation, Colleen shares how informal mentor moments shaped her early career, why mentorship doesn’t require a title or program, and how asking—and offering—help can create lasting impact. She explains the role emotional intelligence plays in both sales and mentorship, how empathy must be paired with assertiveness, and why looking up from our devices matters more than ever. Colleen also discusses raising your hand to mentor, navigating self-doubt, and the importance of showing up generously in business and life.

Listeners will learn how to recognize mentor opportunities, build meaningful connections, and contribute in ways that matter—no matter where they are in their career.

About Colleen Stanley:

Colleen Stanley is the president and founder of Sales Leadership Inc. and one of the most respected voices in sales development and emotional intelligence. Named the number one Sales Global Guru for 2024—and recognized by Salesforce as a top sales influencer of the 21st century—she has appeared on the Top 30 Global Sales Gurus list for eight consecutive years. Colleen is the author of the widely translated books Emotional Intelligence for Sales Success and Emotional Intelligence for Sales Leadership. Her newest book, Be the Mentor Who Mattered, co-authored with Leanne Teman, highlights how meaningful mentorship often happens in a single moment, conversation, or act of encouragement, drawing on stories from their own experiences and 25 contributors.

Her clients include organizations such as Harvard Business Review Poland, IBM, Otterbox, Gallagher, PCL Construction, and Bosch Rexroth. When she isn’t teaching or speaking, Colleen enjoys hiking the Colorado outdoors with her husband.

Reach Colleen:

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Want to be more successful, make more sales and grow your business? If so, you'll love this podcast. In this show, I (Kay Miller, aka "Muffler Mama,") interview superstar women from all industries. Their experience and advice will give you specific tools you can use to enjoy Uncopyable success. I earned the nickname “Muffler Mama" when sold more automotive mufflers than anyone in the world, and I've been a successful entrepreneur for over 30 years. During that time, I (along with my husband, Steve) have generated 8 figures in revenue for our business.  Besides hosting this podcast, I'm an author, speaker, coach, consultant and most importantly....Kelly's mom.

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In this bonus episode, Annette Conrad—founder of Edible Impressions and former corporate event planner—joins me for my five-question feature, offering a charming glimpse into the woman behind the beautifully crafted cookies and unforgettable client experiences.

Annette shares what she imagined doing as a child, something still on her bucket list, what she genuinely appreciates about herself, one thing she’d love to change, and her favorite place to unwind. 

This quick episode is a sweet peek into the creativity, warmth, and intentionality that shaped her journey from events to edible art.

About Annette Conrad:

With over 24 years in corporate event planning and brand experience design, Annette Conrad brings a unique blend of creativity and business precision to every project. As founder of Edible Impressions, she transforms cookies into powerful branding tools—each one beautifully crafted to tell a story and create connection. Known for her meticulous attention to detail and deep empathy for time-pressed professionals, Annette helps clients elevate their events, celebrate their brands, and make a lasting impression—one cookie at a time. 

Connect with Annette:

Website

LinkedIn

Instagram

Facebook

Want to be more successful, make more sales and grow your business? If so, you'll love this podcast. In this show, I (Kay Miller, aka "Muffler Mama,") interview superstar women from all industries. Their experience and advice will give you specific tools you can use to enjoy Uncopyable success. I earned the nickname “Muffler Mama" when sold more automotive mufflers than anyone in the world, and I've been a successful entrepreneur for over 30 years. During that time, I (along with my husband, Steve) have generated 8 figures in revenue for our business.  Besides hosting this podcast, I'm an author, speaker, coach, consultant and most importantly....Kelly's mom.

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After more than two decades in event planning, Annette Conrad transformed her creative side hustle into a thriving company, Edible Impressions. What started as a love for beautifully decorated cookies became a nationally recognized brand serving major corporations, trade shows, and events with custom-made, meaningful treats.

In this episode, Annette shares how her background in event management shaped her approach to business—focusing on client experience, relationships, and quality over quantity. She talks about the courage it took to leave a 24-year career to pursue entrepreneurship, the patience required to grow organically, and why generosity and persistence are key to long-term success.

With wisdom earned from real-world experience, Annette discusses knowing when to pivot, learning to say no, and how focusing on your “moose”—your ideal client—can transform a passion project into a sustainable business. Her message is clear: success doesn’t come overnight, but when you combine passion, patience, and purpose, every cookie can tell a story that leaves a lasting impression.

About Annette Conrad:

 With over 24 years in corporate event planning and brand experience design, Annette Conrad brings a unique blend of creativity and business precision to every project. As founder of Edible Impressions, she transforms cookies into powerful branding tools—each one beautifully crafted to tell a story and create connection. Known for her meticulous attention to detail and deep empathy for time-pressed professionals, Annette helps clients elevate their events, celebrate their brands, and make a lasting impression—one cookie at a time. 

Connect with Annette:

Website

LinkedIn

Instagram

Facebook

Want to be more successful, make more sales and grow your business? If so, you'll love this podcast. In this show, I (Kay Miller, aka "Muffler Mama,") interview superstar women from all industries. Their experience and advice will give you specific tools you can use to enjoy Uncopyable success. I earned the nickname “Muffler Mama" when sold more automotive mufflers than anyone in the world, and I've been a successful entrepreneur for over 30 years. During that time, I (along with my husband, Steve) have generated 8 figures in revenue for our business.  Besides hosting this podcast, I'm an author, speaker, coach, consultant and most importantly....Kelly's mom.

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In this bonus episode, Rebecca Morgan—renowned speaker, accomplished trainer, and bestselling author—joins me for my five-question feature, sharing a fun and personal glimpse behind her professional success.

Rebecca reveals what she dreamed of becoming as a child, something still on her bucket list, what she truly likes about herself, one thing she’d love to change, and her favorite vacation spot. It’s a quick, candid look at the woman who helps others communicate with confidence and authenticity.

Don’t miss this!

About Rebecca Morgan:

Rebecca Morgan is a world-class speaker, trainer, and bestselling author of 28 books, including Calming Upset Customers. With decades of experience helping people communicate more effectively in person and online, she’s mastered the art of keeping audiences engaged—whether on stage, on Zoom, or on a global broadcast.

 Resources:

Website

LinkedIn

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Want to be more successful, make more sales and grow your business? If so, you'll love this podcast. In this show, I (Kay Miller, aka "Muffler Mama,") interview superstar women from all industries. Their experience and advice will give you specific tools you can use to enjoy Uncopyable success. I earned the nickname “Muffler Mama" when sold more automotive mufflers than anyone in the world, and I've been a successful entrepreneur for over 30 years. During that time, I (along with my husband, Steve) have generated 8 figures in revenue for our business.  Besides hosting this podcast, I'm an author, speaker, coach, consultant and most importantly....Kelly's mom.

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In this episode, Rebecca shares how to transform ordinary virtual presentations into memorable, interactive experiences. She explains why authenticity beats perfection, how to avoid the “death by PowerPoint” trap, and how to create slides that support—not smother—your message. From camera setup and lighting to pacing, fonts, and audience engagement, Rebecca offers practical tips to help professionals at any level shine on screen.

You’ll learn how to connect with your audience as if you’re in the same room, use visual storytelling to hold attention, and design virtual meetings that are clear, fun, and effective. Rebecca’s message is clear: good enough isn’t good enough anymore—virtual presence is your brand, and it’s time to make it remarkable.

About Rebecca Morgan:

Rebecca Morgan is a world-class speaker, trainer, and bestselling author of 28 books, including Calming Upset Customers. With decades of experience helping people communicate more effectively in person and online, she’s mastered the art of keeping audiences engaged—whether on stage, on Zoom, or on a global broadcast.

 Resources:

Website

LinkedIn

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Want to be more successful, make more sales and grow your business? If so, you'll love this podcast. In this show, I (Kay Miller, aka "Muffler Mama,") interview superstar women from all industries. Their experience and advice will give you specific tools you can use to enjoy Uncopyable success. I earned the nickname “Muffler Mama" when sold more automotive mufflers than anyone in the world, and I've been a successful entrepreneur for over 30 years. During that time, I (along with my husband, Steve) have generated 8 figures in revenue for our business.  Besides hosting this podcast, I'm an author, speaker, coach, consultant and most importantly....Kelly's mom.

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In this bonus episode, Leslie Venetz answers the five fun questions I ask every guest—offering a glimpse into the heart behind her professional success.

We talk childhood dreams, bucket-list goals, favorite traits, and the little quirks that make her who she is. It’s a quick, candid, and meaningful look at the woman behind the wisdom.

About Leslie Venetz:

Leslie Venetz is the Founder of The Sales-Led GTM Agency, a sales strategy firm helping organizations build profit-generating pipelines. An award-winning keynote speaker and Top 50 USA Today bestselling author of Profit Generating Pipeline, her insights have been featured in Success Magazine and The Wall Street Journal. Recognized as a LinkedIn Top Voice in Sales and a pioneer of B2B sales content on TikTok, Leslie’s videos have reached over 100 million views, inspiring a new generation of sales professionals to sell with strategy, authenticity, and purpose. 

Reach Leslie:

Website

LinkedIn

YouTube

Instagram

TikTok

Want to be more successful, make more sales and grow your business? If so, you'll love this podcast. In this show, I (Kay Miller, aka "Muffler Mama,") interview superstar women from all industries. Their experience and advice will give you specific tools you can use to enjoy Uncopyable success. I earned the nickname “Muffler Mama" when sold more automotive mufflers than anyone in the world, and I've been a successful entrepreneur for over 30 years. During that time, I (along with my husband, Steve) have generated 8 figures in revenue for our business.  Besides hosting this podcast, I'm an author, speaker, coach, consultant and most importantly....Kelly's mom.

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In this conversation, Leslie shares how trust forms the foundation of every sale—and why sellers must “earn the right” to a buyer’s attention before asking for anything in return. She explains her nine-step proven formula for building a profit-generating pipeline and offers practical ways to shift from product-focused to problem-centered messaging.

We also dig into how AI can support, but not replace, authentic communication, and why great sellers focus on helping customers buy rather than pushing them to be sold. Leslie’s insights on outbound versus inbound sales, multi-channel outreach, and the role of trust make this episode a must-listen for anyone serious about growing revenue the right way.

About Leslie Venetz:

Leslie Venetz is the Founder of The Sales-Led GTM Agency, a sales strategy firm helping organizations build profit-generating pipelines. An award-winning keynote speaker and Top 50 USA Today bestselling author of Profit Generating Pipeline, her insights have been featured in Success Magazine and The Wall Street Journal. Recognized as a LinkedIn Top Voice in Sales and a pioneer of B2B sales content on TikTok, Leslie’s videos have reached over 100 million views, inspiring a new generation of sales professionals to sell with strategy, authenticity, and purpose. 

Reach Leslie:

Website

LinkedIn

YouTube

Instagram

TikTok

Want to be more successful, make more sales and grow your business? If so, you'll love this podcast. In this show, I (Kay Miller, aka "Muffler Mama,") interview superstar women from all industries. Their experience and advice will give you specific tools you can use to enjoy Uncopyable success. I earned the nickname “Muffler Mama" when sold more automotive mufflers than anyone in the world, and I've been a successful entrepreneur for over 30 years. During that time, I (along with my husband, Steve) have generated 8 figures in revenue for our business.  Besides hosting this podcast, I'm an author, speaker, coach, consultant and most importantly....Kelly's mom.

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In this bonus episode of Uncopyable Women in Business, get to know Nathalie beyond her role as business strategist and growth leader at POC Stock, the global platform changing how people of color are represented in media and marketing.

Find out her answers to these five questions 👇

• What did you want to be when you grew up?
• What’s something you still want to do?
• What do you love most about yourself?
• What’s one thing you’d like to change?
• And… your favorite vacation spot?

It’s a quick, candid, and inspiring look at the woman who believes diversity isn’t a buzzword — it’s a business advantage.

Want to be more successful, make more sales and grow your business? If so, you'll love this podcast. In this show, I (Kay Miller, aka "Muffler Mama,") interview superstar women from all industries. Their experience and advice will give you specific tools you can use to enjoy Uncopyable success. I earned the nickname “Muffler Mama" when sold more automotive mufflers than anyone in the world, and I've been a successful entrepreneur for over 30 years. During that time, I (along with my husband, Steve) have generated 8 figures in revenue for our business.  Besides hosting this podcast, I'm an author, speaker, coach, consultant and most importantly....Kelly's mom.

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In this episode, I talk with Nathalie Heywood, business strategist and growth leader at POC Stock — a global stock imagery platform that’s changing how people of color are represented in media and marketing.

Nathalie shares how diversity isn’t a buzzword — it’s a business advantage. As she puts it, “Any successful business is diverse — in thought, culture, and people.”

We also talked about her personal mantra:

“I do dope stuff that moves the needle — and I have fun.”

I love that. Nathalie’s energy, purpose, and passion for authentic storytelling really shine through. She reminded me that no two people share the same fingerprint — and that our stories are what make us Uncopyable.

About Nathalie Heywood:

Nathalie Heywood (also goes by Nathalie Heywood Smith) plays a leadership role at POCSTOCK, a stock imagery / content platform focused on representation of people of color. 

She is also founder/owner of Heywood Smith Consulting, which works with startups and organizations on strategic growth, talent, operations, and scaling. 

Nathalie is a visionary, results-driven executive with extensive experience building and scaling strategic partnerships and teams that accelerate growth, expand market reach, and create long-term value. She is skilled at aligning partnership strategies with corporate objectives, fostering high-impact alliances, and leading plus training cross-functional teams to deliver measurable results.

Reach Nathalie:

LinkedIn

Websites:

https://www.pocstock.com/

https://heywoodsmithconsulting.com/

Want to be more successful, make more sales and grow your business? If so, you'll love this podcast. In this show, I (Kay Miller, aka "Muffler Mama,") interview superstar women from all industries. Their experience and advice will give you specific tools you can use to enjoy Uncopyable success. I earned the nickname “Muffler Mama" when sold more automotive mufflers than anyone in the world, and I've been a successful entrepreneur for over 30 years. During that time, I (along with my husband, Steve) have generated 8 figures in revenue for our business.  Besides hosting this podcast, I'm an author, speaker, coach, consultant and most importantly....Kelly's mom.

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In this episode, Debra Dudley takes on my five signature “fun fact questions,” giving us a peek at the heart behind her incredible journey:

• What did you want to be when you grew up?
• What’s something you still want to do?
• What do you love most about yourself?
• What’s one thing you’d like to change?
• And… your favorite vacation spot?

It’s a short, honest, and surprisingly insightful way to see the woman behind the the success of Oscarware, Inc. You won’t want to miss it!

Catch the full podcast conversation here.

Want to be more successful, make more sales and grow your business? If so, you'll love this podcast. In this show, I (Kay Miller, aka "Muffler Mama,") interview superstar women from all industries. Their experience and advice will give you specific tools you can use to enjoy Uncopyable success. I earned the nickname “Muffler Mama" when sold more automotive mufflers than anyone in the world, and I've been a successful entrepreneur for over 30 years. During that time, I (along with my husband, Steve) have generated 8 figures in revenue for our business.  Besides hosting this podcast, I'm an author, speaker, coach, consultant and most importantly....Kelly's mom.

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In this conversation, Debra shares her remarkable journey from aspiring country music star to Co-Founder & President of the global brand, Oscarware, Inc.

She recounts how a love story and a simple idea, inspired by her late husband's  his experience in the satellite industry, inspired the concept of metal "topper" placed over an outdoor grill. The company went on to change the way people cook outdoors. Debra talks about the early years of trial and error, the persistence it took to land Walmart as her first major buyer, and how she and her late husband built their business through sheer determination and creativity.

We also explore the parallels between performing on stage and selling a product, the importance of believing in yourself even after hearing “no,” and how a strong personal brand and authentic connection can open doors. Debra’s story is a testament to resilience, faith, and the power of never giving up on what you believe in.

About Debra A. Dudley – Co-Founder & President, Oscarware, Inc.

Once an aspiring country singer with Top 40 hits, Debra Dudley transformed her creative spirit into entrepreneurship after meeting her late husband, Reg. Together, they invented the first Oscarware grill toppers, turning a simple backyard idea into a Made-in-the-USA success story. Today, Oscarware products are sold nationwide at Walmart, Kroger, Publix, and beyond, reaching 14 countries.

Debra’s leadership has earned her major recognition, including Kentucky Small Businessperson of the Year, the WBENC Southeast Woman-Owned Business of the Year, and the 2024 Gail Adinamis wegg® Award for Exemplary Global Leadership®.

Reach Debra:

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Want to be more successful, make more sales and grow your business? If so, you'll love this podcast. In this show, I (Kay Miller, aka "Muffler Mama,") interview superstar women from all industries. Their experience and advice will give you specific tools you can use to enjoy Uncopyable success. I earned the nickname “Muffler Mama" when sold more automotive mufflers than anyone in the world, and I've been a successful entrepreneur for over 30 years. During that time, I (along with my husband, Steve) have generated 8 figures in revenue for our business.  Besides hosting this podcast, I'm an author, speaker, coach, consultant and most importantly....Kelly's mom.

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In this episode, Lisa Schnare answers the five fun questions I ask every guest—offering a glimpse into the heart behind her professional success:

1. What did you want to be when you grew up? 
2. What’s something you want to do that you haven't yet? 
3. What's something you like about yourself?
4. What's something about yourself you'd like to change?
5. What's your favorite vacation spot?

It’s a quick, candid, and meaningful way to get to know the woman behind the wisdom. Don’t miss it!

Catch the full podcast conversation here.

About Lisa:

With over 15 years of experience in B2B sales, I am a Managing Partner at ValueSelling Associates, a leading global sales training company that offers a practical methodology for selling on value, not price. I am Certified to sell and deliver ValueSelling Framework, Vortex Prospecting, and Account Manager Training, helping reps and managers to excel across the entire revenue funnel. I am passionate about helping SaaS and Services companies build successful lead generation and sales teams, processes, operations, and enablement. My mission is to drive new pipeline within account based sales and marketing strategies, ultimately aiding in the growth and success of every business I work with.

Resources:

LinkedIn

Want to be more successful, make more sales and grow your business? If so, you'll love this podcast. In this show, I (Kay Miller, aka "Muffler Mama,") interview superstar women from all industries. Their experience and advice will give you specific tools you can use to enjoy Uncopyable success. I earned the nickname “Muffler Mama" when sold more automotive mufflers than anyone in the world, and I've been a successful entrepreneur for over 30 years. During that time, I (along with my husband, Steve) have generated 8 figures in revenue for our business.  Besides hosting this podcast, I'm an author, speaker, coach, consultant and most importantly....Kelly's mom.

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In this episode, Lisa shares how value-based selling transforms conversations from product pitching to true business partnerships. She explains how to uncover what’s most important to your customer, connect your solutions to their goals, and position yourself as a trusted advisor instead of just another vendor. Lisa also reveals how she uses AI tools to research prospects in seconds, why listening matters more than talking, and how to build confidence in sales development teams.

Listen in to gain actionable strategies to improve prospecting, ask smarter questions, and lead with authenticity. Lisa’s practical, down-to-earth approach shows that great selling isn’t about pushing harder—it’s about understanding your customer’s world and creating measurable value in every interaction.

About Lisa:

With over 15 years of experience in B2B sales, I am a Managing Partner at ValueSelling Associates, a leading global sales training company that offers a practical methodology for selling on value, not price. I am Certified to sell and deliver ValueSelling Framework, Vortex Prospecting, and Account Manager Training, helping reps and managers to excel across the entire revenue funnel. I am passionate about helping SaaS and Services companies build successful lead generation and sales teams, processes, operations, and enablement. My mission is to drive new pipeline within account based sales and marketing strategies, ultimately aiding in the growth and success of every business I work with.

Contact Lisa: LinkedIn

Books Lisa Mentioned: 

Show Me You Care: https://a.co/d/9I3q0GU

Trust Matters: https://a.co/d/9RL7XIN

Want to be more successful, make more sales and grow your business? If so, you'll love this podcast. In this show, I (Kay Miller, aka "Muffler Mama,") interview superstar women from all industries. Their experience and advice will give you specific tools you can use to enjoy Uncopyable success. I earned the nickname “Muffler Mama" when sold more automotive mufflers than anyone in the world, and I've been a successful entrepreneur for over 30 years. During that time, I (along with my husband, Steve) have generated 8 figures in revenue for our business.  Besides hosting this podcast, I'm an author, speaker, coach, consultant and most importantly....Kelly's mom.

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In this bonus episode, Shelby Jo Long—keynote speaker, author, and business strategist—joins me for my signature five-question feature.

Hear Shelby’s candid answers to:
 • What did you want to be when you grew up?
 • What’s something you still hope to do that you haven’t yet?
 • What’s something you truly like about yourself?
 • What’s one thing you’d love to change?
 • And, of course, your favorite vacation spot?

It’s a fun, fast-paced conversation with a leader who helps others turn communication into influence. Don’t miss this behind-the-scenes peek at the personality behind the strategist.

Want to be more successful, make more sales and grow your business? If so, you'll love this podcast. In this show, I (Kay Miller, aka "Muffler Mama,") interview superstar women from all industries. Their experience and advice will give you specific tools you can use to enjoy Uncopyable success. I earned the nickname “Muffler Mama" when sold more automotive mufflers than anyone in the world, and I've been a successful entrepreneur for over 30 years. During that time, I (along with my husband, Steve) have generated 8 figures in revenue for our business.  Besides hosting this podcast, I'm an author, speaker, coach, consultant and most importantly....Kelly's mom.

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In this episode of Uncopyable Women in Business, I sit down with Shelby Jo Long, a keynote speaker, author, and business strategist who has spent nearly two decades teaching and coaching others in the art of communication and persuasion. 

Shelby explains why persuasion isn’t about manipulation but about building credibility and connection. She shares how learning to stand for something, invite opposing viewpoints, and foster constructive disagreement can strengthen leadership and spark innovation. Drawing from her background in debate, she highlights the power of listening, storytelling, and empathy as tools to create real impact.

Listeners will gain insight into how to shift from delivering rehearsed pitches to asking the right questions, how to use communication as a competitive edge, and how to turn moments of conflict into opportunities for growth. Shelby’s message is clear: credibility and influence come not from avoiding disagreement but from embracing it with confidence and clarity.

About Shelby:

Shelby Jo Long is a keynote speaker, author, and business strategist who helps organizations transform their communication into a competitive edge. With 18 years as a Communication Professor and international collegiate debate coach, she brings unmatched expertise in leadership, conflict management, and organizational culture. Through her CORE Leadership Framework, Shelby empowers executives, entrepreneurs, and teams to embrace constructive disagreement, build resilience, and engage with authenticity. As CEO of Business Dynamics and founder of Cadence Speaker Academy, she equips professionals to amplify their influence, expand their revenue streams, and lead with clarity in today’s fast-changing business landscape. 

Reach Shelby:

Website 

LinkedIn 

Want to be more successful, make more sales and grow your business? If so, you'll love this podcast. In this show, I (Kay Miller, aka "Muffler Mama,") interview superstar women from all industries. Their experience and advice will give you specific tools you can use to enjoy Uncopyable success. I earned the nickname “Muffler Mama" when sold more automotive mufflers than anyone in the world, and I've been a successful entrepreneur for over 30 years. During that time, I (along with my husband, Steve) have generated 8 figures in revenue for our business.  Besides hosting this podcast, I'm an author, speaker, coach, consultant and most importantly....Kelly's mom.

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In this bonus episode, Jessica Rhodes—pioneer of the podcast booking industry and founder of Interview Connections—joins me for my signature five-question lightning round.

Hear Jessica’s candid answers to:
 • What did you want to be when you grew up?
 • What’s something you still hope to do that you haven’t yet?
 • What’s something you truly like about yourself?
 • What’s one thing you’d love to change?
 • And, of course, your favorite vacation spot?

It’s a fun, fast-paced conversation with the woman who turned podcast guesting into a thriving business. Don’t miss this behind-the-scenes peek at the personality behind the pioneer. 

Want to be more successful, make more sales and grow your business? If so, you'll love this podcast. In this show, I (Kay Miller, aka "Muffler Mama,") interview superstar women from all industries. Their experience and advice will give you specific tools you can use to enjoy Uncopyable success. I earned the nickname “Muffler Mama" when sold more automotive mufflers than anyone in the world, and I've been a successful entrepreneur for over 30 years. During that time, I (along with my husband, Steve) have generated 8 figures in revenue for our business.  Besides hosting this podcast, I'm an author, speaker, coach, consultant and most importantly....Kelly's mom.

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What if one conversation could spark months of marketing momentum—and cost far less than ads or endless content creation?

In this episode of Uncopyable Women in Business, Jessica Rhodes, founder of Interview Connections and pioneer of the podcast guesting industry, reveals a marketing tactic most entrepreneurs still overlook: turning podcast interviews into a powerful business-growth engine.

Jessica breaks down how a single guest appearance can build instant trust with new audiences, supercharge your SEO, and give you weeks of ready-made social media clips—all while positioning you as the go-to expert in your field. She shares the steps to land on the right shows, craft a call-to-action that converts listeners into clients, and repurpose every interview into a steady stream of content.

Listen in and you’ll walk away ready to pitch your first podcasts, capture new leads from every appearance, and transform long-form conversations into the most cost-effective marketing your business has ever tried.

About Jessica Rhodes:

Jessica Rhodes is a trailblazer in podcasting and the founder of Interview Connections, the first-ever podcast booking agency. In 2013, while pregnant with her first child and eager to work from home, Jessica began booking podcast interviews for her father, eventually turning that work into a thriving business. Today, Interview Connections has booked more than 30,000 interviews for over 800 clients, helping entrepreneurs elevate their visibility and authority. 

Resources:

Website: Interview Connections

LinkedIn

Facebook

Instagram

Want to be more successful, make more sales and grow your business? If so, you'll love this podcast. In this show, I (Kay Miller, aka "Muffler Mama,") interview superstar women from all industries. Their experience and advice will give you specific tools you can use to enjoy Uncopyable success. I earned the nickname “Muffler Mama" when sold more automotive mufflers than anyone in the world, and I've been a successful entrepreneur for over 30 years. During that time, I (along with my husband, Steve) have generated 8 figures in revenue for our business.  Besides hosting this podcast, I'm an author, speaker, coach, consultant and most importantly....Kelly's mom.

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This episode is a little different—because I’m the guest! I join Dawn Grooters in her Inside Gift &Home podcast to talk about how to stand out in the competitive gift and home industry. As the founder of Be Uncopyable—and yes, the original “Muffler Mama”—I share how I built my sales career by truly understanding customers, including the day I laced up steel-toe boots to install mufflers myself.

I explain why products and services can be copied, but people can’t, and how telling your own story creates a connection no competitor can duplicate. I also describe my “moose” concept for identifying your ideal target customer, and why trust and curiosity are the real game changers in sales. From using a signature color like my trademark orange to leaning into bold company history, I reveal how personal branding helps buyers remember you long after the pitch.

Listen in as I share practical ways to shift conversations from price to value, build relationships that last, and create a story only you can tell.

Here's the link of my conversation on Inside Gift & Home with Dawn Grooters: 

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About Dawn Grooters:

Dawn Grooters is the founder of Broken Vessel Sales Solutions, a company specializing in relationship-based inside sales for the gift and home industry. With over 20 years of experience, she evolved from being a buyer to a top-performing inside sales rep, generating millions in revenue and later mentoring others to achieve similar success.

She developed a sales approach rooted in empathy and value-driven communication, avoiding cold calls and pressure tactics. Also hosts the Inside Gift & Home Podcast, where she shares actionable strategies and insights. Her mission is to help businesses grow through genuine, empathetic connections and integrity-based sales practices.

Want to be more successful, make more sales and grow your business? If so, you'll love this podcast. In this show, I (Kay Miller, aka "Muffler Mama,") interview superstar women from all industries. Their experience and advice will give you specific tools you can use to enjoy Uncopyable success. I earned the nickname “Muffler Mama" when sold more automotive mufflers than anyone in the world, and I've been a successful entrepreneur for over 30 years. During that time, I (along with my husband, Steve) have generated 8 figures in revenue for our business.  Besides hosting this podcast, I'm an author, speaker, coach, consultant and most importantly....Kelly's mom.

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In this bonus episode, Dr. Jane Sojka—professor of marketing at the University of Cincinnati and author of Women & Power—takes the hot seat for my signature five-question lightning round.

Hear Jane’s candid answers to:
 • What did you want to be when you grew up?
 • What’s something you still hope to do that you haven’t yet?
 • What’s something you truly like about yourself?
 • What’s one thing you’d love to change?
 • And, of course, your favorite vacation spot?

About Dr. Jane Sojka: 

Dr. Jane Sojka is a professor of marketing at the University of Cincinnati, where she developed one of the first university courses designed specifically to help women succeed in professional sales. Over the years, she’s coached and mentored thousands of women, especially those entering male-dominated industries, equipping them with the skills to take risks, build resilience, and grow their confidence. Her new book, Women & Power: Your Guidebook to Risk, Resilience, and Confidence, brings those lessons beyond the classroom. Through candid stories and practical strategies, she helps women break free from self-limiting behaviors and step fully into their own power.

Order Jane's Book:

https://a.co/d/6nORd71

Reach Dr. Jane Sojka:

LinkedIn

Want to be more successful, make more sales and grow your business? If so, you'll love this podcast. In this show, I (Kay Miller, aka "Muffler Mama,") interview superstar women from all industries. Their experience and advice will give you specific tools you can use to enjoy Uncopyable success. I earned the nickname “Muffler Mama" when sold more automotive mufflers than anyone in the world, and I've been a successful entrepreneur for over 30 years. During that time, I (along with my husband, Steve) have generated 8 figures in revenue for our business.  Besides hosting this podcast, I'm an author, speaker, coach, consultant and most importantly....Kelly's mom.

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In this conversation, Jane shares her insights on how women can navigate career advancement while staying true to themselves. She discusses the importance of self-advocacy, the subtle but real barriers women face in male-dominated industries, and the strategies that help women not just survive, but thrive. Drawing from both research and personal experience, she explains why confidence is often underestimated yet critical, and how women can build it intentionally over time.

We also explore the lessons from Her Success Blueprint, including how to set boundaries, find mentors, and challenge outdated stereotypes. Jane emphasizes that women don’t need to “fix themselves” to succeed—they need to recognize and leverage the strengths they already bring to the table. Her message is both practical and encouraging: success is possible without compromise when you own your value and lead with authenticity.

Order Jane's Book:

https://a.co/d/6nORd71

About Dr. Jane Sojka: 

Dr. Jane Sojka is a professor of marketing at the University of Cincinnati, where she developed one of the first university courses designed specifically to help women succeed in professional sales. Over the years, she’s coached and mentored thousands of women, especially those entering male-dominated industries, equipping them with the skills to take risks, build resilience, and grow their confidence. Her new book, Women & Power: Your Guidebook to Risk, Resilience, and Confidence, brings those lessons beyond the classroom. Through candid stories and practical strategies, she helps women break free from self-limiting behaviors and step fully into their own power.

Reach Dr. Jane Sojka:

LinkedIn

Want to be more successful, make more sales and grow your business? If so, you'll love this podcast. In this show, I (Kay Miller, aka "Muffler Mama,") interview superstar women from all industries. Their experience and advice will give you specific tools you can use to enjoy Uncopyable success. I earned the nickname “Muffler Mama" when sold more automotive mufflers than anyone in the world, and I've been a successful entrepreneur for over 30 years. During that time, I (along with my husband, Steve) have generated 8 figures in revenue for our business.  Besides hosting this podcast, I'm an author, speaker, coach, consultant and most importantly....Kelly's mom.

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In this solo episode of Uncopyable Women in Business I don't have guests - it's just me, diving into one of the toughest challenges we face in sales: price objections. If you’ve ever been on the verge of closing a deal only to hear, “Sounds great, but your price is too high,” you know how frustrating it can be.

In this episode, I share real stories—from luxury hotels to my Muffler Mama days—to show why selling on value beats selling on price every time. You’ll hear how focusing on the right “Moose” (your ideal customers) changes everything, why the “expensive glass of wine” story still works decades later, and how the classic “feel, felt, found” approach can turn resistance into a yes.

I also talk about negotiation, Chris Voss’s FBI strategies, and why you are the Uncopyable advantage that makes customers choose you over anyone else.

Listen in and get ready to turn objections into opportunities!

Want to be more successful, make more sales and grow your business? If so, you'll love this podcast. In this show, I (Kay Miller, aka "Muffler Mama,") interview superstar women from all industries. Their experience and advice will give you specific tools you can use to enjoy Uncopyable success. I earned the nickname “Muffler Mama" when sold more automotive mufflers than anyone in the world, and I've been a successful entrepreneur for over 30 years. During that time, I (along with my husband, Steve) have generated 8 figures in revenue for our business.  Besides hosting this podcast, I'm an author, speaker, coach, consultant and most importantly....Kelly's mom.

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In this episode, get ready to hear Natasha Dillon's answers to the same five questions I ask every guest: 

1. What did you want to be when you grew up? 
2. What’s something you want to do that you haven't yet? 
3. What's something you like about yourself?
4. What's something about yourself you'd like to change?
5. What's your favorite vacation spot?

About Natasha:

Natasha Dillon is the co-founder and CFO of FundFi Merchant Funding, a company that provides fast, flexible financing to small and mid-sized businesses across the U.S. and Canada. With a finance career that began in 2007, Natasha oversees underwriting, accounting, and regulatory compliance, playing a pivotal role in the company’s growth and operations.

Reach Natasha:

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Website

Want to be more successful, make more sales and grow your business? If so, you'll love this podcast. In this show, I (Kay Miller, aka "Muffler Mama,") interview superstar women from all industries. Their experience and advice will give you specific tools you can use to enjoy Uncopyable success. I earned the nickname “Muffler Mama" when sold more automotive mufflers than anyone in the world, and I've been a successful entrepreneur for over 30 years. During that time, I (along with my husband, Steve) have generated 8 figures in revenue for our business.  Besides hosting this podcast, I'm an author, speaker, coach, consultant and most importantly....Kelly's mom.

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What do you do when your pizza oven breaks on a Friday morning—or you get the chance to open a second location, but the bank can’t move fast enough?

My guest Natasha Dillon, co-founder and CFO of FundFi Merchant Funding, helps entrepreneurs solve those exact problems. Her company provides fast, flexible financing for small and mid-sized businesses—often within 24 hours.

In this episode, Natasha shares:

• How alternative financing works (and why it’s different from a bank loan)
• Real examples of businesses she’s helped—from restaurants to niche manufacturers
• Her own journey as an entrepreneur, and what she’s learned along the way

If you’re curious about funding options—or just want to hear a fascinating behind-the-scenes look at business growth—you’ll love this conversation.

About Natasha:

Natasha Dillon is the co-founder and CFO of FundFi Merchant Funding, a company that provides fast, flexible financing to small and mid-sized businesses across the U.S. and Canada. With a finance career that began in 2007, Natasha oversees underwriting, accounting, and regulatory compliance, playing a pivotal role in the company’s growth and operations.

Reach Natasha:

LinkedIn

Website

Want to be more successful, make more sales and grow your business? If so, you'll love this podcast. In this show, I (Kay Miller, aka "Muffler Mama,") interview superstar women from all industries. Their experience and advice will give you specific tools you can use to enjoy Uncopyable success. I earned the nickname “Muffler Mama" when sold more automotive mufflers than anyone in the world, and I've been a successful entrepreneur for over 30 years. During that time, I (along with my husband, Steve) have generated 8 figures in revenue for our business.  Besides hosting this podcast, I'm an author, speaker, coach, consultant and most importantly....Kelly's mom.

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In this episode, Viki King takes on my signature five questions —iIt’s quick, candid, and gives you a fresh glimpse into the storyteller behind the screenplays and bestselling books.

She reveals:

 ✨ What did you dream of being as a kid?
 ✨ What’s still on your bucket list?
 ✨ What do you love most about yourself?
 ✨ What would you change?
 ✨ And… your favorite vacation spot?

Catch my full interview with Viki here: https://www.buzzsprout.com/2245025/episodes/17701540

Viki King is a bestselling author, Hollywood screenwriter, and transformational consultant whose work has influenced writers, executives, athletes, and creatives around the world. Best known for her classic book How to Write a Movie in 21 Days: The Inner Movie Method, Viki has also written for television favorites including Three’s Company and Hart to Hart. Her newest book, How to Be the Hero of Your Own Life, blends memoir with empowering lessons on purpose, resilience, and reinvention.

Resources:

Website

LinkedIn

Books:

How to Be the Hero of Your Own Life
How to Write a Movie in 21 Days

Want to be more successful, make more sales and grow your business? If so, you'll love this podcast. In this show, I (Kay Miller, aka "Muffler Mama,") interview superstar women from all industries. Their experience and advice will give you specific tools you can use to enjoy Uncopyable success. I earned the nickname “Muffler Mama" when sold more automotive mufflers than anyone in the world, and I've been a successful entrepreneur for over 30 years. During that time, I (along with my husband, Steve) have generated 8 figures in revenue for our business.  Besides hosting this podcast, I'm an author, speaker, coach, consultant and most importantly....Kelly's mom.

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In this conversation, Viki shares her remarkable journey from being the first female crew member on The Tonight Show with Johnny Carson to guiding others in discovering their own inner voice. She discusses what it means to thrive rather than simply survive, how humor can transform challenges, and why every person carries a unique genius made up of their own blend of talents. We explore her perspective on fear, freedom, and creativity, and how her writing serves as a mirror for readers to reflect on their own lives. At 80 years old, Viki continues to model what it means to live authentically, fully, and with courage.

Viki King is a bestselling author, Hollywood screenwriter, and transformational consultant whose work has influenced writers, executives, athletes, and creatives around the world. Best known for her classic book How to Write a Movie in 21 Days: The Inner Movie Method, Viki has also written for television favorites including Three’s Company and Hart to Hart. Her newest book, How to Be the Hero of Your Own Life, blends memoir with empowering lessons on purpose, resilience, and reinvention.

Resources:

Website

LinkedIn

Books:

How to Be the Hero of Your Own Life
How to Write a Movie in 21 Days

Want to be more successful, make more sales and grow your business? If so, you'll love this podcast. In this show, I (Kay Miller, aka "Muffler Mama,") interview superstar women from all industries. Their experience and advice will give you specific tools you can use to enjoy Uncopyable success. I earned the nickname “Muffler Mama" when sold more automotive mufflers than anyone in the world, and I've been a successful entrepreneur for over 30 years. During that time, I (along with my husband, Steve) have generated 8 figures in revenue for our business.  Besides hosting this podcast, I'm an author, speaker, coach, consultant and most importantly....Kelly's mom.

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In this episode, Dr. Cindy McGovern takes on my signature five questions — the ones every guest has to face! You’ll hear her share:

• What she dreamed of becoming as a kid
• The “bucket list” item she hasn’t checked off (yet!)
• What she loves most about herself
• The one thing she’d tweak if she could
• And of course… her ultimate vacation destination!

Known across the globe as the First Lady of Sales, Dr. Cindy McGovern is an expert in sales, leadership, and communication. Author of the Wall Street Journal Best Seller Every Job is a Sales Job: How to Use the Art of Selling to Win at Work, Sell Yourself: How to Create, Live, and Sell a Powerful Personal Brand and CEO of Orange Leaf Consulting, she’s earned her reputation by leading hundreds of companies to business growth and industry dominance. She helps take the ‘ick’ out of sales and empowers people to embrace their inner 5-year-old to use the art of selling to achieve their personal and professional goals.

Resources:

Websites:

https://drcindy.com/

https://orangeleafconsulting.com/

https://www.orangeleafacademy.com/

Instagram

Want to be more successful, make more sales and grow your business? If so, you'll love this podcast. In this show, I (Kay Miller, aka "Muffler Mama,") interview superstar women from all industries. Their experience and advice will give you specific tools you can use to enjoy Uncopyable success. I earned the nickname “Muffler Mama" when sold more automotive mufflers than anyone in the world, and I've been a successful entrepreneur for over 30 years. During that time, I (along with my husband, Steve) have generated 8 figures in revenue for our business.  Besides hosting this podcast, I'm an author, speaker, coach, consultant and most importantly....Kelly's mom.

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In this episode of Uncopyable Women in Business, I talk with Dr. Cindy McGovern, known as The First Lady of Sales and a Wall Street Journal bestselling author. Cindy is the CEO of Orange Leaf Consulting and a global expert in sales, leadership, and communication. She believes every job is a sales job—and that to succeed in business and life, you must sell yourself first.

We dig into her mission to “take the ick out of selling,” the five-step sales framework anyone can use, and why trust is the foundation of every sale. Cindy also shares why your personal brand is working 24/7 (whether you realize it or not), how to be kind without being a pushover, and the power of storytelling to connect and influence.

This conversation is smart, energizing, and packed with practical tools you can put to work immediately. You’ll love Cindy’s warmth, candor, and contagious energy. Don’t miss this one!

About Dr. Cindy McGovern:

Known across the globe as the First Lady of Sales, Dr. Cindy McGovern is an expert in sales, leadership, and communication. Author of the Wall Street Journal Best Seller Every Job is a Sales Job: How to Use the Art of Selling to Win at Work, Sell Yourself: How to Create, Live, and Sell a Powerful Personal Brand and CEO of Orange Leaf Consulting, she’s earned her reputation by leading hundreds of companies to business growth and industry dominance. She helps take the ‘ick’ out of sales and empowers people to embrace their inner 5-year-old to use the art of selling to achieve their personal and professional goals.

Resources:

Websites:

https://drcindy.com/

https://orangeleafconsulting.com/

https://www.orangeleafacademy.com/

Instagram

Want to be more successful, make more sales and grow your business? If so, you'll love this podcast. In this show, I (Kay Miller, aka "Muffler Mama,") interview superstar women from all industries. Their experience and advice will give you specific tools you can use to enjoy Uncopyable success. I earned the nickname “Muffler Mama" when sold more automotive mufflers than anyone in the world, and I've been a successful entrepreneur for over 30 years. During that time, I (along with my husband, Steve) have generated 8 figures in revenue for our business.  Besides hosting this podcast, I'm an author, speaker, coach, consultant and most importantly....Kelly's mom.

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In this episode, Jackie Joy takes on my five signature “fun questions,” giving us a peek at the heart behind her incredible journey:

• What did you want to be when you grew up?
• What’s something you still want to do?
• What do you love most about yourself?
• What’s one thing you’d like to change?
• And… your favorite vacation spot?

It’s a short, honest, and surprisingly insightful way to see the woman behind the business. You won’t want to miss it!

Want to be more successful, make more sales and grow your business? If so, you'll love this podcast. In this show, I (Kay Miller, aka "Muffler Mama,") interview superstar women from all industries. Their experience and advice will give you specific tools you can use to enjoy Uncopyable success. I earned the nickname “Muffler Mama" when sold more automotive mufflers than anyone in the world, and I've been a successful entrepreneur for over 30 years. During that time, I (along with my husband, Steve) have generated 8 figures in revenue for our business.  Besides hosting this podcast, I'm an author, speaker, coach, consultant and most importantly....Kelly's mom.

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In this episode of Uncopyable Women in Business, I talk with Jackie Joy, Chief Strategy and Development Officer at The Perfect Plan, we talk about the groundbreaking research in Here Come the Girls, a book by behavioral economist Dr. Don Barden. Dr. Barden predicts that women will take over global leadership by 2028.  Jackie is a powerhouse executive coach and leadership mentor who promotes human-centered, heart-driven leadership, and she's on a mission to help women rise while mentoring men to be their strongest allies.

Jackie shares what makes this shift so powerful—and necessary—not just for women, but for everyone. Her message is clear: this isn’t about pushing men aside. It’s about working together in a new way that values empathy, collaboration, and respect.

We also explore how leaders can create cultures where people feel seen, heard, understood, and valued—what Jackie calls “human skills,” not soft skills. This conversation is energizing, thought-provoking, and packed with practical wisdom.

You’ll love Jackie’s joy, insight, and passion. Don’t miss this one!

Contact Jackie: 

Email: jackie@dwbarden.com
Website: https://donbarden.com/
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jackiejoy28/
Cell: 321-693-2458

Grab a copy of the book “Here Come the Girls”: https://a.co/d/5hkocBw

Want to be more successful, make more sales and grow your business? If so, you'll love this podcast. In this show, I (Kay Miller, aka "Muffler Mama,") interview superstar women from all industries. Their experience and advice will give you specific tools you can use to enjoy Uncopyable success. I earned the nickname “Muffler Mama" when sold more automotive mufflers than anyone in the world, and I've been a successful entrepreneur for over 30 years. During that time, I (along with my husband, Steve) have generated 8 figures in revenue for our business.  Besides hosting this podcast, I'm an author, speaker, coach, consultant and most importantly....Kelly's mom.

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In this episode, Rhea Lana Riner takes on my five signature “fun questions,” giving us a peek at the heart behind her incredible journey:

• What did you want to be when you grew up?
• What’s something you still want to do?
• What do you love most about yourself?
• What’s one thing you’d like to change?
• And… your favorite vacation spot?

It’s a short, honest, and surprisingly insightful way to see the woman behind the business. You won’t want to miss it!

Catch the full podcast conversation here.

Want to be more successful, make more sales and grow your business? If so, you'll love this podcast. In this show, I (Kay Miller, aka "Muffler Mama,") interview superstar women from all industries. Their experience and advice will give you specific tools you can use to enjoy Uncopyable success. I earned the nickname “Muffler Mama" when sold more automotive mufflers than anyone in the world, and I've been a successful entrepreneur for over 30 years. During that time, I (along with my husband, Steve) have generated 8 figures in revenue for our business.  Besides hosting this podcast, I'm an author, speaker, coach, consultant and most importantly....Kelly's mom.

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In this episode of Uncopyable Women in Business, I talk with Rhea Lana Riner, founder and CEO of Rhea Lana’s Children’s Consignment Events. What began over 30 years ago as a clothing swap in her living room has grown into a national franchise with over 120 locations—and a powerful business that supports women, builds community, and provides real opportunities for entrepreneurship.

Rhea Lana shares how she built her business from the ground up with no business background, very little money, and a strong desire to stay home with her kids while helping support the family. She’s honest about early failures, what she had to learn the hard way, and how her commitment to excellence, authenticity, and service shaped her success.

We talk about how she developed a strong personal brand (without even realizing it at first), what it’s like being the face of a growing company, and how she stays connected to her customers and values while leading a national organization.

If you’re an entrepreneur—or thinking about becoming one—you’ll get a lot out of this conversation. Rhea Lana’s story is real, encouraging, and full of hard-won wisdom.

Learn more or schedule a free call at rhealana.com/podcast

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Want to be more successful, make more sales and grow your business? If so, you'll love this podcast. In this show, I (Kay Miller, aka "Muffler Mama,") interview superstar women from all industries. Their experience and advice will give you specific tools you can use to enjoy Uncopyable success. I earned the nickname “Muffler Mama" when sold more automotive mufflers than anyone in the world, and I've been a successful entrepreneur for over 30 years. During that time, I (along with my husband, Steve) have generated 8 figures in revenue for our business.  Besides hosting this podcast, I'm an author, speaker, coach, consultant and most importantly....Kelly's mom.

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In this episode, Tracy Hooper answers the five fun questions I ask every guest—offering a glimpse into the heart behind her professional success:

1. What did you want to be when you grew up? 
2. What’s something you want to do that you haven't yet? 
3. What's something you like about yourself?
4. What's something about yourself you'd like to change?
5. What's your favorite vacation spot?

It’s a short, genuine glimpse into the woman behind the insights—definitely worth a listen! 

Catch the full podcast conversation here.

Want to be more successful, make more sales and grow your business? If so, you'll love this podcast. In this show, I (Kay Miller, aka "Muffler Mama,") interview superstar women from all industries. Their experience and advice will give you specific tools you can use to enjoy Uncopyable success. I earned the nickname “Muffler Mama" when sold more automotive mufflers than anyone in the world, and I've been a successful entrepreneur for over 30 years. During that time, I (along with my husband, Steve) have generated 8 figures in revenue for our business.  Besides hosting this podcast, I'm an author, speaker, coach, consultant and most importantly....Kelly's mom.

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If you’ve ever walked into a room and felt like an imposter—or wished you could speak up with more confidence—this episode is just what you need. (I know, because I'm right there with you!)

I made immediate changes based on my energizing conversation with Tracy Hooper, founder of The Confidence Project and author of The Now Hello. Tracy is a former TV news anchor who now teaches leaders how to speak clearly, show up powerfully, and build trust in every interaction.

The good news is that you don't have to "fake" confidence, it can be learned! In this episode, Tracy gives you specific actions, words and phrases to use. Oh, and don't miss her list of words to LOSE!  

If you want to feel more confident, command respect and create genuine connections you’ll get a lot out of this episode.

🎧 Listen now and get ready to make simple changes that will impact every area of your life. 

About Tracy Hooper:

Tracy Hooper is the Founder of The Confidence Project, where she helps leaders and teams elevate their presence, communicate with clarity, and build stronger workplace relationships. A former TV news anchor and reporter, Tracy brings her expertise in storytelling and on-camera presence to keynote speaking, team training, and 1:1 executive coaching. Her clients include Nike, Intel, Microsoft, eBay, and The Mayo Clinic.

She’s the author of The NOW Hello: What to Say | What to Do in the World of Work, a practical guide to building confidence and connection—whether remote, hybrid, or in person. Tracy’s practical, down-to-earth approach gives people more control over how they show up, more impact in their communication, and more influence in their work.

When she’s not speaking or coaching, you’ll likely find Tracy hiking with her husband, Henry. They’ve walked the Camino de Santiago in Spain and regularly explore the Columbia River Gorge.

Reach Tracy:

Websites

LinkedIn

YouTube

Want to be more successful, make more sales and grow your business? If so, you'll love this podcast. In this show, I (Kay Miller, aka "Muffler Mama,") interview superstar women from all industries. Their experience and advice will give you specific tools you can use to enjoy Uncopyable success. I earned the nickname “Muffler Mama" when sold more automotive mufflers than anyone in the world, and I've been a successful entrepreneur for over 30 years. During that time, I (along with my husband, Steve) have generated 8 figures in revenue for our business.  Besides hosting this podcast, I'm an author, speaker, coach, consultant and most importantly....Kelly's mom.

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In this episode, Karen Norheim answers the five fun questions I ask every guest—offering a glimpse into the heart behind her professional success:

1. What did you want to be when you grew up? 
2. What’s something you want to do that you haven't yet? 
3. What's something you like about yourself?
4. What's something about yourself you'd like to change?
5. What's your favorite vacation spot?

It’s a quick, candid, and meaningful way to get to know the woman behind the wisdom. Don’t miss it!

Catch the full podcast conversation here.

About Karen Norheim:

Karen Norheim is the President and CEO of American Crane & Equipment Corporation, a leading manufacturer of overhead cranes and hoists. She is the daughter of the company's founder and has been with American Crane for over 17 years. In 2019, she was appointed President and Chief Operating Officer, and she later became CEO. Throughout her tenure, Karen has emphasized the importance of company culture. In 2018, she introduced the mantra "GRIT Matters" to inspire perseverance and passion among employees. She also led efforts to codify the company's unwritten culture, ensuring that core values are clearly communicated and upheld.

Karen's leadership was particularly tested during the COVID-19 pandemic and the subsequent passing of her father. As a first-time CEO, she navigated these challenges by focusing on resilience and adaptability.

Resources:

The Manufacturing Institute

American Crane & Equipment Corporation

KeenAlignment

Vistage First-Time CEO Story

Want to be more successful, make more sales and grow your business? If so, you'll love this podcast. In this show, I (Kay Miller, aka "Muffler Mama,") interview superstar women from all industries. Their experience and advice will give you specific tools you can use to enjoy Uncopyable success. I earned the nickname “Muffler Mama" when sold more automotive mufflers than anyone in the world, and I've been a successful entrepreneur for over 30 years. During that time, I (along with my husband, Steve) have generated 8 figures in revenue for our business.  Besides hosting this podcast, I'm an author, speaker, coach, consultant and most importantly....Kelly's mom.

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In this episode, I sit down with Karen Norheim, President and CEO of American Crane & Equipment Corporation. Karen didn’t always plan to go into the family business. But after earning multiple degrees (and learning a thing or two about grit), she joined the company—and helped it evolve from the inside out.

What struck me most about Karen was her thoughtfulness around legacy. She shares how she honored her father’s vision while still bringing her own ideas to the table—and why culture and innovation matter just as much in manufacturing as they do in tech or media.

We talked about how women lead differently (and that’s a good thing), how to champion your people without micromanaging, and why “next generation leadership” is less about age and more about mindset.

If you’ve ever wondered how to make your mark in an established business—or how to build a legacy that lasts—this conversation is for you.

About Karen Norheim:

Karen Norheim is the President and CEO of American Crane & Equipment Corporation, a leading manufacturer of overhead cranes and hoists. She is the daughter of the company's founder and has been with American Crane for over 17 years. In 2019, she was appointed President and Chief Operating Officer, and she later became CEO. Throughout her tenure, Karen has emphasized the importance of company culture. In 2018, she introduced the mantra "GRIT Matters" to inspire perseverance and passion among employees. She also led efforts to codify the company's unwritten culture, ensuring that core values are clearly communicated and upheld.

Karen's leadership was particularly tested during the COVID-19 pandemic and the subsequent passing of her father. As a first-time CEO, she navigated these challenges by focusing on resilience and adaptability.

Resources:

The Manufacturing Institute

American Crane & Equipment Corporation

KeenAlignment

Vistage First-Time CEO Story

Want to be more successful, make more sales and grow your business? If so, you'll love this podcast. In this show, I (Kay Miller, aka "Muffler Mama,") interview superstar women from all industries. Their experience and advice will give you specific tools you can use to enjoy Uncopyable success. I earned the nickname “Muffler Mama" when sold more automotive mufflers than anyone in the world, and I've been a successful entrepreneur for over 30 years. During that time, I (along with my husband, Steve) have generated 8 figures in revenue for our business.  Besides hosting this podcast, I'm an author, speaker, coach, consultant and most importantly....Kelly's mom.

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In this episode, get ready to hear Cathy Sommerville's answers to the same five questions I ask every guest: 

1. What did you want to be when you grew up? 
2. What’s something you want to do that you haven't yet? 
3. What's something you like about yourself?
4. What's something about yourself you'd like to change?
5. What's your favorite vacation spot?

About Cathy Sommerville:

Cathy is a real estate leader, TEDx speaker, and the founder of SWAG (Smart Women Aging Gracefully). But titles don’t tell the whole story. Cathy brings a depth of wisdom that comes from navigating life’s unexpected turns—with grace, grit, and a good sense of humor. 

Cathy Sommerville-Scharetg is a seasoned real estate professional with 28 years of success in sales and leadership. Cathy currently serves as Managing Broker for Coldwell Banker in Palo Alto, Menlo Park, and Portola Valley. She's the founder of SWAG (Smart Women Aging Gracefully) and also a TEDx speaker who’s passionate about helping women find their voice, their stride, and their purpose—at every stage of life. A proud mom and grandma, Cathy brings wisdom, heart, and a strong message about aging gracefully and living authentically.

Reach Cathy:

Website

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Want to be more successful, make more sales and grow your business? If so, you'll love this podcast. In this show, I (Kay Miller, aka "Muffler Mama,") interview superstar women from all industries. Their experience and advice will give you specific tools you can use to enjoy Uncopyable success. I earned the nickname “Muffler Mama" when sold more automotive mufflers than anyone in the world, and I've been a successful entrepreneur for over 30 years. During that time, I (along with my husband, Steve) have generated 8 figures in revenue for our business.  Besides hosting this podcast, I'm an author, speaker, coach, consultant and most importantly....Kelly's mom.

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If you're tired of chasing everyone else’s definition of success, Cathy’s story will resonate. 

In this episode, we talk about what it really means to reinvent yourself—especially after 50. Cathy opens up about the pressure to “get it right,” the shift from helper to leader, and the power of being unapologetically yourself. We also dive into how she built SWAG into a vibrant community for women ready to lead on their own terms. 

We talk about:

• How to redefine ambition at any age
• Why being “a good girl” and being effective are not the same
• The difference between helpful and heroic (and why you don’t have to rescue everyone)
• What authenticity really means—and how it frees you
• Building community with purpose and ease

About Cathy Sommerville:

Cathy is a real estate leader, TEDx speaker, and the founder of SWAG (Smart Women Aging Gracefully). But titles don’t tell the whole story. Cathy brings a depth of wisdom that comes from navigating life’s unexpected turns—with grace, grit, and a good sense of humor. 

Cathy Sommerville-Scharetg is a seasoned real estate professional with 28 years of success in sales and leadership. Cathy currently serves as Managing Broker for Coldwell Banker in Palo Alto, Menlo Park, and Portola Valley. She's the founder of SWAG (Smart Women Aging Gracefully) and also a TEDx speaker who’s passionate about helping women find their voice, their stride, and their purpose—at every stage of life. A proud mom and grandma, Cathy brings wisdom, heart, and a strong message about aging gracefully and living authentically.

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Want to be more successful, make more sales and grow your business? If so, you'll love this podcast. In this show, I (Kay Miller, aka "Muffler Mama,") interview superstar women from all industries. Their experience and advice will give you specific tools you can use to enjoy Uncopyable success. I earned the nickname “Muffler Mama" when sold more automotive mufflers than anyone in the world, and I've been a successful entrepreneur for over 30 years. During that time, I (along with my husband, Steve) have generated 8 figures in revenue for our business.  Besides hosting this podcast, I'm an author, speaker, coach, consultant and most importantly....Kelly's mom.

Order my Products!

Uncopyable Sales Secrets (Book by Kay Miller)

Uncopyable You (Book co-authored with Steve Miller)

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Contact:
kay@beuncopyable.com
linkedin.com/in/millerkay
 

In this episode of Uncopyable Women in Business, I sit down with Maggie Maloney, Global Lead for Strategic Account Development and Enablement at Televerde, to explore her unique journey from working in sales while incarcerated to building a successful career in tech. Maggie shares key strategies like treating sales as a conversation, using corporate improv to keep interactions natural, and replacing rigid scripts with flexible guides. We discuss the importance of active listening, strategic selling, and how to walk away when a sale isn’t the right fit. Whether you’re new to sales or a seasoned pro, this episode offers practical tips for building authentic customer relationships and long-term trust.

About Maggie:

Maggie Maloney is a Sales Development Leader and Mentor with over a decade of experience in generating opportunities and building pipelines. With a diverse background spanning tech and startups, she believes sales is a human experience, driven by authentic conversations. Passionate about mentoring junior talent, Maggie excels in outbound strategies, combining the science of sales with the art of active listening and communication.

Reach Maggie:
https://www.linkedin.com/in/margaret-maloney/
twitter.com/MargaretM86

Resources:
Book: Improv(e) Your Conversations
https://a.co/d/cB11v2C

Want to be more successful, make more sales and grow your business? If so, you'll love this podcast. In this show, I (Kay Miller, aka "Muffler Mama,") interview superstar women from all industries. Their experience and advice will give you specific tools you can use to enjoy Uncopyable success. I earned the nickname “Muffler Mama" when sold more automotive mufflers than anyone in the world, and I've been a successful entrepreneur for over 30 years. During that time, I (along with my husband, Steve) have generated 8 figures in revenue for our business.  Besides hosting this podcast, I'm an author, speaker, coach, consultant and most importantly....Kelly's mom.

Order my Products!

Uncopyable Sales Secrets (Book by Kay Miller)

Uncopyable You (Book co-authored with Steve Miller)

 Apply for a free 20 minute call

Contact:
kay@beuncopyable.com
linkedin.com/in/millerkay
 

In this episode, get ready to hear Dawn Grooter's answers to the same five questions I ask every guest: 

1. What did you want to be when you grew up? 
2. What’s something you want to do that you haven't yet? 
3. What's something you like about yourself?
4. What's something about yourself you'd like to change?
5. What's your favorite vacation spot?

About Dawn Grooters:

Dawn Grooters is the founder of Broken Vessel Sales Solutions, a company specializing in relationship-based inside sales for the gift and home industry. With over 20 years of experience, she evolved from being a buyer to a top-performing inside sales rep, generating millions in revenue and later mentoring others to achieve similar success.

She developed a sales approach rooted in empathy and value-driven communication, avoiding cold calls and pressure tactics. Also hosts the Inside Gift & Home Podcast, where she shares actionable strategies and insights. Her mission is to help businesses grow through genuine, empathetic connections and integrity-based sales practices.

Resources:

Website

LinkedIn

Facebook  

Instagram 

Want to be more successful, make more sales and grow your business? If so, you'll love this podcast. In this show, I (Kay Miller, aka "Muffler Mama,") interview superstar women from all industries. Their experience and advice will give you specific tools you can use to enjoy Uncopyable success. I earned the nickname “Muffler Mama" when sold more automotive mufflers than anyone in the world, and I've been a successful entrepreneur for over 30 years. During that time, I (along with my husband, Steve) have generated 8 figures in revenue for our business.  Besides hosting this podcast, I'm an author, speaker, coach, consultant and most importantly....Kelly's mom.

Order my Products!

Uncopyable Sales Secrets (Book by Kay Miller)

Uncopyable You (Book co-authored with Steve Miller)

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Contact:
kay@beuncopyable.com
linkedin.com/in/millerkay
 

When life forces a change you never saw coming, you have two choices: resist it or reshape your life around it. 

That’s exactly what this week’s guest, Dawn Grooters, did—and what she helps others do, too.

In our conversation, Dawn shares how she rebuilt her career with intention, empathy, and heart. She offers practical insights on how to build rapport over the phone, serve customers without burnout, and grow a business from a place of purpose—not pressure.

We also talk about what it means to bring your whole self into your work, and how honoring your own story can become your greatest business asset.

🎧 Tune in to hear Dawn’s journey—and leave inspired to rewrite your own.

About Dawn Grooters:

Dawn Grooters is the founder of Broken Vessel Sales Solutions, a company specializing in relationship-based inside sales for the gift and home industry. With over 20 years of experience, she evolved from being a buyer to a top-performing inside sales rep, generating millions in revenue and later mentoring others to achieve similar success.

She developed a sales approach rooted in empathy and value-driven communication, avoiding cold calls and pressure tactics. Also hosts the Inside Gift & Home Podcast, where she shares actionable strategies and insights. Her mission is to help businesses grow through genuine, empathetic connections and integrity-based sales practices.

Resources:

Website

LinkedIn

Facebook  

Instagram 

Want to be more successful, make more sales and grow your business? If so, you'll love this podcast. In this show, I (Kay Miller, aka "Muffler Mama,") interview superstar women from all industries. Their experience and advice will give you specific tools you can use to enjoy Uncopyable success. I earned the nickname “Muffler Mama" when sold more automotive mufflers than anyone in the world, and I've been a successful entrepreneur for over 30 years. During that time, I (along with my husband, Steve) have generated 8 figures in revenue for our business.  Besides hosting this podcast, I'm an author, speaker, coach, consultant and most importantly....Kelly's mom.

Order my Products!

Uncopyable Sales Secrets (Book by Kay Miller)

Uncopyable You (Book co-authored with Steve Miller)

 Apply for a free 20 minute call

Contact:
kay@beuncopyable.com
linkedin.com/in/millerkay