Many officials, coaches, AD's, fans and players in the Huntington area have been ordering their own "Steve Shirt"...And to understand just what this shirt represents, check out this episode and meet Steve & Steve, affectionately known as, "Big Poppa and His Protege"!!

The great Foster ballers, "a multiple-sports family," all starred in Homestead HS sports! They stopped by the RefTime studio to reminisce, laugh, and talk about life after sports. Tracy (the oldest brother) buys and sells car dealerships and deals in commercial real estate; J.J. (the 2nd oldest) is a loan officer at Lake City Bank and the head boys basketball coach at South Side HS; and Sugar (the youngest) is a retired youth group home owner and home health care advisor.

They made their own homemade ice rink, but the family's favorite sport isn't hockey...! The Smith/Merrell team of Smith Academy For Excellence (S.A.F.E.) make their official visit on RefTime.

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Tyler and Jillian Sellhorn are on the pod today! The father-daughter duo, past and present ballers, are like no other. In this episode of "The Jill Show", they discuss their scoring ability, the Internet of Things, and rules of the game. It's sure to be a good one! Like, Share and Subscribe today so you don't miss a show!

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Listen to this week’s RefTime to learn more about the plans for the future of sports at New Haven High School. Joining RefTime are Brandon Appleton and Nick Cunningham. Find out the details of the school's first HOOSIER3ON3 Basketball League in June 2025.

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The next RefTime features the young Edmonds clan including: Kyle Bond - assistant basketball coach at Northrop HS, PJ Edmonds - AAU basketball coach & trainer, and Evan Cleveland - AAU basketball coach & personal trainer. Check out the cousins' similarities and differences in coaching style on our latest podcast.

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The Edmonds family - Coach Keith & Mike - educated RefTime on the drive to become a varsity high school coach! "It's such a prestigious thing here! In all other states it's just basketball. In Indiana it's a religion! Assistant coaches move all the time to get as close as they can to that next seat over - Head Coach!"

Zara discusses the difference between playing high school and college sports. "When you're playing in high school, you're playing students up to 18 or 19. When you're in college, you're playing students in their 20s. You've got to work harder!"

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"My best officiating was ALWAYS in softball!" says Bev Reincke, who has officiated basketball, volleyball, slow pitch and fast pitch softball. Of those, her past favorite was softball, but she traded that in for her new love, volleyball. Her late husband, Randy, was a referee, and their son later joined "the dark side" as a baseball and volleyball referee in Florida.

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Rotrice Phinezy is on RefTime w/RTS. Her daughter played volleyball in high school and now plays in college. Rotrice herself played volleyball and basketball in high school and is thinking about joining us on the dark side!

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Jenna Mackin, a former volleyball player, has recently become an official. She says that officiating is "definitely different" from playing because "every decision falls on me and what I see." Jenna is also a recent high school graduate who plans to pursue a career as a firefighter-EMT.

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"Over the hill/snowbird," Gary Muncy says that the top pay for Big10 officials was $125 per game, and that the average income from his full-time job was $4 per hour. Check out his life and officiating journey here on RefTime.

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FWPD Officer James "Nabes" Nabors III, tells RefTime hosts: "The correlation between being a police officer and a referee is hand in hand. You deal with a lot of the same verbal things from people that we deal with and unfortunately, nowadays, it's getting physical for refs so you gotta know how to defend yourself. But the biggest things is knowing how to communicate...knowing how to talk to people. You can talk a lot of people off the ledge if you know what to say, when to say it, and how to say it. That's important."

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Craig Dyer refereed basketball in the early 2000s for six to seven years. He decided he'd rather coach his kids, and so he gave up refereeing. He tried to do both for a year, but it was impossible. "You're either a referee or you're not." Why did Craig return to refereeing? Listen in and find out!

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As a current professional player, Jaguar "Jag" Jackson, says the main rule difference in high school and college basketball vs the pro ranks is "goaltending" (taking the ball of the rim) and the "gather step". Listen and watch Jag on the RefTime show!

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She is a head coach in two different sports (volleyball and basketball) at two different schools (South Side HS & Canterbury HS). In her very first season, she was voted SAC Coach of the Year! She was also a basketball and volleyball student athlete at Canterbury. Meet Coach Brittani Turner on this episode of RefTime w/RTS!

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Julie Beck was a standout volleyball player in high school, college, and in Germany as a pro. A lot of people have been telling her she needs to do it. But she says, "NO! I'm never going to do that!" What is "it?" Tune in to RefTime w/RTS to find out.

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Marcus Benjamin, founder of the Kings & Queens Boxing Foundation, is passionate about helping young people avoid the mistakes he made in his youth. His program offers anger management, business courses, and the fundamentals of boxing. But what makes his program unique is that it allows kids to channel their anger into the boxing ring instead of in school or on the streets. Marcus says, "I love helping the youth stay away from gang violence, drugs, and not going down the path I went down."

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Sixteen-year-old Judah Kelly is a Carroll High School student who shares with RefTime his favorite things about attending an RTS training class with his dad. "The more I talk to you guys and get to know you better, the more opportunities I can get with refereeing and the more money I can make!"

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Koby Sims, a guest on the RefTime podcast, shared a highlight of his experience as a new basketball referee. He said that one of the best parts of the job is "getting out on the court with veteran officials..." However, he also admitted that his "pet peeve" is being yelled at by coaches, fans, and players.

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In the officiating industry, we're told that to move up, you need to be self-employed. Big Ten official Jourdan Love joins RefTime to discuss this and what it takes to stay at the highest level.

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Shannon Rodgers, principal at Harrison Hill Elementary School, mom of a basketball player, and former high school and college impact player at USF, joins the RefTime podcast. Shannon sides with the officials on how players, coaches, and fans should behave during sporting events. Listen now to hear her perspective.

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Chauntiel Smith-Jones is a sports agent with Capture Sports Agency. She represents professional athletes in the WNBA, overseas basketball, and the new NIL (Name, Image, and Likeness). Her future plans are to grow Capture Sports Agency into one of the biggest sports agencies in the country.

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Jackie was initially against homeschooling their kids. She did some research on the issue, hoping to convince her husband, Josh, to abandon the idea. After her study, she was totally in favor of homeschooling, and they've since graduated two of their children. They've even become co-directors of the Midwest Volleyball Classic Tournament!

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Janice North was a homeschool volleyball coach for the FW Falcons for 14 years. She most loved the personal relationships she built with her players, and she had a really good relationship with the referees. Janice told her players that the referees are there to judge how you're playing, and that at the end of the game you should thank them for doing their job.

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Trevon Maley is an impact player for his homeschool team. He believes that his team can compete with any other team in the Fort Wayne area. The team has already proven its ability to compete by qualifying for the 2024 Homeschool Nationals Sweet 16!

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Twelve years ago, when Kristyne Esparza (Los Angeles, CA) was a youth coach, she filled in for referees who didn't show up. The pay was so good that she kept at it to help pay for grad school. Today, she is in the NBA pipeline, and she pays a professional track coach to improve her speed and appearance on the court. Kristyne has refereed for a year in the D-League and for seven years in the G-League. She currently works at the men's college D1 level. Who says girls can't compete?

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We welcome Jafus "Da' Coach" Woods to the studio. He'll break down the job of officials from the perspective of game and prep coaches.

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Laschelle Hatcher is a single parent who was recruited to become a referee even though she never played basketball. She was rewarded for her focus and determination when she became the first woman to officiate a boys' IHSAA tournament basketball game.

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Kay Yoder was a pioneer in women's basketball. She played for Ball State University from 1970 to 1973. From 2001 to 2006, she worked as an official for NCAA Division III women's college basketball. Kay Yoder was the first female to officiate boys junior varsity and varsity basketball games in Fort Wayne.

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Andrew Maley, a homeschool basketball assistant coach, joins the RefTime podcast to discuss the need for officials to recognize and honor a "rules of basis." He also emphasizes the importance of educating coaches, fans, and players about the rules of the game.

Tune in to hear Dion Malone’s story of how he was thrown into officiating basketball right after high school graduation. Dion says he realized he could control the game as a ref, something he couldn’t do when he was playing. He started with real training and eventually heard from a licensed ref who told him to get certified. 

Dion shares a bit about his life in Dallas and how he found his purpose through officiating basketball. It’s not often we hear from the people who oversee the game we love, so this is a great listen for anyone who appreciates basketball and the people who keep the game going.

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Sports Management major, Ariel Edwards, is an aspiring college student at USF who needs money to help defray college costs...She wants to earn side income as a sports official and guess who wants to help her...?

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Some referees think it should be mandatory for coaches to officiate to see their sport from a refs point of view! Although he’s coached at numerous locations including Northside HS, Bishop Luers HS, Snider HS, Indiana Tech and AAU, Coach Greg Friend got behind the whistle early in his career and learned to practice letting the refs ref!

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State Champion & 4x State Final returnee, Coach Bruce Stephens left golden nuggets with RefTime: "I tell players: you don't have to agree with the call and you don't have to like it...but realize officials are just as human as you are and can get emotional too! So, keep the passion, lose the emotion. Cause passion stays within but, also comes out, and emotion gets you in trouble!" Tune in for more wisdom from New Haven head basketball coach.

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Cleveland Inge shared coaching & officiating stories during his visit with RefTime! Hint: he thought being a good coach meant displaying the behavior of former Indiana Hoosier coach, Bob Knight.

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Mike Ayers of ONV'S "Respect The Game" podcast, gives his take on sports, how the industry has evolved and debates a few rules too!

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FWCS "Ad of AD's", Virgil Tharp, teaches us how to speak proper education sports lingo: "extra-curricular" is a Big No-No! It's all co-curricular - "We are an extension of the class room." And, we learned that fully 70% of working executives played high school sports! Ain't that something?!

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He's back! HS referee Eric Koenemann joins again in the studio to update us on what's been happening in his world since his 1st visit with us last season.

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Assistant Principal, Athletic Director, past high school & college athlete and sports lover Rose Worman, educates RefTime fans on the need for trained refs to officiate elementary school contests. 

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Bob Amber, retired firefighter (37 years), morphed into putting out fires on the basketball court while literally putting out fires! However, he's NOT retired from officiating since he still enjoys chasing young stallions and stallionettes up & down the court!!

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Past player, mom, wife, aunt, youth advocate, good friend and current coach! Learn how Juanita Goodwell balances her titles while serving as head coach for South Side HS's girl's basketball program.

Listen or watch Charles Smith: youth role model, fishing enthusiast, Ball State U basketball standout and long-time referee who still "just loves being a part of the game"!

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On today's "instant replay" we revisit with Mrs. Gianna Hearn, freelance sports reporter/host & "face of the G-League".

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On today's "instant replay" we have Dr. Ron Lewis joining us...

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Yep, another RTS Grad - Head Coach, Nicole Sisson's goal is to improve the Heritage High School Girl's Basketball program. She shares how earning her officiating license helps in reaching that goal!

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Here's another RTS grad (fall of 2021) REPLAY! It's fun to watch the growth and development in those trained thru RTS.

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Today's replay is with Mr. Kamron Bell. Kam came through the 1st RTS class 12 years ago and has had a very successful career.

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ANOTHER REPLAY... Watch/Listen to RefTime guest Mark Corral...Another RTS grad.

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REPLAY... Watch/Listen to RefTime guest #4, Tom Torson.

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REPLAY... Watch/Listen to RefTime guest #1, Sydney Hearn.

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Steve Skiles (NOT to be confused with Scott Skiles!) is in the RefTime studio today! Ooh...and Steve has many stories to share from a LONG basketball officiating career from local rec leagues to high school to D1!

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Feeling today's climate in sports & considering the attitudes of sports-lovers towards officials, his perspective and response to referees is rather controversial and unique! Dr. Ron Lewis joins RefTime.

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Past head boys basketball coach of Concordia High School visited the RefTime studio to share wisdom he's learned over time..."In today's game there is SO much less physicality allowed. In sports players learn, through competition, to stand up to someone who may be bigger and stronger." Listen/Watch as Tim Reinking speaks on high school sports...

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Meet Mr. Dave Stratton, retired basketball, volleyball and softball referee who admits he was a "terrible fan!" But, when he started officiating in 1990, he remembers loving it and had a blast!

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Sports Dad/Husband/Retired Head Coach/School Administrator, Scott Geist tells it like it is as a basketball official on the high school and college levels.

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"As an official, I'm away from MY family to work this contest. I trust you'll remember that when you disagree with a call or two! We're NOT just doing YOUR contest; we're doing yours AND 4-6 other contests through the week!" A Product Control manager brings her professional training to the world she loves - SPORTS!

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Do pastors of large churches make good sports officials? YOU make that call based on our interview with Pastor Barry Jorris.

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Today we learned about "house rules", called "ground rules" in our (officials) language. Retired professional baller, Bennie Lewis, joins us live in the studio to share his view of the ref game on the Pro basketball level.

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As a recent RTS grad, Aubrey Griggs wants to grow bigger & better as a college bball ref now that he's WITNE$$ED personally how coming over to the "dark side" can INCREASE his life!

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Multi-sport ref, Brian Browning talks up his love for the game...going from a 3-sport player in high school & college to a high-level official on both levels.

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RefTime guest, Mark Corral was recruited by another RTS grad...Like most refs, he wishes he'd made the "official" commitment a LONG time ago!

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RTS student, Josh Wenning tells about his journey in officiating multiple sports.

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Past RTS student, Wayne Kelly Jr. tells his side of sports and why officiating is important to the game.

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Coach Deric Adams of Canterbury HS shares his views on the game of basketball and what changes need to happen among coaches, players and fans.

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Marvin Patterson talks about his first love, "playing the game of basketball" and how he fell for his new love, "officiating the game of basketball"!

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On today's show we welcome Mr. Fred Bojrab! Listen to his very interesting officiating journey.

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How has the RefTime Podcast grown since it started October 10, 2022? What else is significant about that date? Today we discuss these answers. We also talk VOLLEYBALL and the rule changes for the 2023-24 season.

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Head Coach, Nicole Sisson's goal is to improve the Heritage High School Girl's Basketball program. She shares how earning her officiating license helps in reaching that goal!

RTS ref, Dan Martin, was voted "Best Hustling Official" of his class and now joins RefTime to share what he's learned about the difference between able-bodied vs wheelchair basketball.

Team Focus Leader, Casey Adams, shares his personal and coaching views about officiating in Indiana and Michigan on today's show.

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Welcome Rickey Jordan to the show! He attended the RTS "ground zero" class over 10 years ago...Listen to his GROWING story here on RefTime!

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Join us as we talk with Mr. Bob Childers aka "Mr. Rules Knowledge". 

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Today, we welcome James "Million Dollar Smile" Payne to the RefTime podcast! About everyone in the Fort knows James either by his title as "Officer Payne", his kind demeanor or his knack for getting the Big Games!

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On today's show we welcome freelance sports reporter/host "face of the G-LEAGUE",  Mrs. Gianna Hearn aka our beautiful daughter-in-law.

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Retired NBA player, Reggie Hearn, talks officiating from a player perspective and current scout.

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On today's show we welcome back Jake Linder, basketball chair of the North Eastern Indiana Athletic Officials Association (NEIAOA), to discuss the recent attack of a Fort Wayne referee and the nationwide mistreatment of sports officials. 

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Today we reminisce with Pastor Gabrielle Ginder who was considered one of the best referees in the Fort before she decided to focus on serving as an official representative for the Lord and for her family!

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Join us today as we welcome Mr. Kamron Bell. Kam came through the 1st RTS class 12 years ago and has had a very successful career.

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Join us as we talk with the NEIAOA Basketball Chairperson, Jake Linder!

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On today's show we welcome Mr. Tom Torson who came over to the "dark side" through RTS. Tom shares with us his deep love affair with officiating!

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On today's show we welcome Ray Moore, retired Men's College basketball official out of Ohio. Ray has transitioned into the newest technology in athletic shoe  wear.

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Welcome! Today, we are joined by Clark Hamilton, former multiple-sport official and recruiter/trainer.

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Today our daughter, Sydney,  joins us in the studio. Join us as we talk about how she got started in officiating.

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Our producer from Couragio Media stops by the studio to help explain the purpose of the show. This show will be covering plays, rules, points of emphasis and all things official. Our goal is to educate people who want to become sports officials.

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