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Keith Bryant, CEO of the Open Dialogue Centre came all the way from Australia to see what CNWL are doing with Peer Open Dialogue in their Westminster pilot. It was really good to meet him. In this episode, Keith reflects with Gareth Jarvis and Fiona Eastmond about all things Peer Open Dialogue in Westminster.

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Fiona talks to Russell about what his journey with Peer Informed Open Dialogue has been like ahead of the long-awaited publication of the results of the ODESSI trial.

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In episode 7 of Season 3 of OpenPODpod we hear Lauren, Advanced Lived Experience Practitioner at CNWL, telling us how learning about Open Dialogue led her to peer working. Along the way we reminisce about chocolate factories, the first ever POD cohort, and Lauren’s experiences as a healthcare support worker-turned-peer. As we reflect, we look through different lenses to learn about the unique value of peer working in Open Dialogue – the P in the POD.

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In this episode Gareth and Fiona are joined by Mia Kurtti, who has been working at the heart of what we now call Open Dialogue as it developed in Finland. We ask for her reflections on how this way of working came about and how something that originated in rural Finland can be translated to British shores and embedded into the NHS with our diverse urban populations.

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In a first for the podcast, Fiona interviews someone who is receiving Open Dialogue in the form of network meetings. Our guest's experience is moving, touching and real, and they have asked to remain anonymous. This episode has been completely co-produced: our guest edited the whole thing with Fiona, going through every word until we were both completely comfortable and happy with it. We are very proud of this episode and hope that it will be the first of many.  

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Here at CNWL where Fiona and Gareth are based we had a visit from Adrian James, NHS England’s medical director for mental health and neurodiversity. Adrian loved what we are doing in the pilot phase of Peer-informed Open Dialogue. Adrian spent most of his time with people who use our services in South Westminster and who have been benefitting from the introduction of Peer- informed Open Dialogue. We managed to catch him for 10 minutes with the roving mike and here is what he had to say.   

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More words and thoughts on the growing world of Open Dialogue from IMDRAP 2024 with Brian Campbell from East London.

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Fiona and her roving mike went to the 28th International Meeting on Dialogical and Reflective Approaches to Psychosis and Other Challenging Mental States (IMDRAP) conference and sat down with quite a few people to have chats about the state of Peer-informed Open Dialogue in the NHS and beyond. Martijn is a very experienced peer worker and delighted Fiona with his thoughts about what Open Dialogue could mean for services. 

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Welcome back! Welcome to Season three of Open POD pod! We've come a long way and we are still incredibly thankful for Billy Hardy whom we miss very much. This short episode is one of a few short "Vox popularis" interviews that Fiona did at the IMDRAP conference - a conference in August 2024 all about Open Dialogue. This one is the inimitable Mimi and the lovely Leon. Bearing in mind the background noise was not possible to remove....Enjoy!

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In this episode Amanda and Gareth listen to Harlene Anderson talking about the ins and outs of embedding Open Dialogue ways of working into systems, using the Reflecting Team. Harlene gives us the full benefit of her wisdom and there is a book recommendation too. 

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Claire Murdoch, Chief Executive of Central and North West London NHS Trust (CNWL) and national director for mental health, brings her wealth of experience and insight to Episode 3. Claire has a lively discussion with Amanda Bueno, Gareth Jarvis and Fiona Eastmond focusing on the importance of fostering meaningful connections and facilitating healing within the community. Listeners can expect to gain valuable insights into the principles and techniques of open dialogue, as well as practical strategies for implementing them. Claire's candid real-world examples provide a compelling narrative that both educates and inspires, making this episode a must-listen for anyone interested in promoting mental health and well-being through open and empathetic communication. Tune in to discover the transformative power of authenticity with Claire Murdoch on OpenPODpod, the CNWL podcast about Peer-Supported Open Dialogue.

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In our second episode of Season 2 Jaakko Seikkula talks all things Open Dialogue right from the very first day that a different approach was decided upon in Tornio. Gareth, Amanda and Fiona ask all the questions and Jaakko imparts his wisdom right from the origin of this new approach. 

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In this first episode of Season 2 of Open POD pod, we continue to create dialogue about dialogue. We talk about the origins of Open Dialogue, what it actually IS. We reflect about how Season 1 was made and our feelings about Billy Hardy our good friend who passed away in January of this year. There has been something of a break in publishing but as you will see there has been no break in recording and we have some very exciting guests coming up in Season 2. 

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Exploring what Peer-Supported Open Dialogue is by creating a dialogue about it. In this eleventh and penultimate episode for our first season, we start with small talk and work our way up to big talk, via hairdressers and the word Mental. Another part of our ongoing educational conversations on how to use and embed Open Dialogue way of working into mental health services in the UK. 

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Exploring what Peer-Supported Open Dialogue is by creating a dialogue about it. In this tenth episode, we start and finish with art and artwork via our musings on how to embed Open Dialogue into mental health services in the UK. We reflect together on our hopes for the future.

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Exploring what Peer-Supported Open Dialogue is by creating a dialogue about it. In this ninth episode, we start in the middle again and talk about where we go from the ODESSI trial, via non verbal communication, elephants and the bridge across the River Kwai. We reflect together on how this could be a sea-change in mental health services and on our hopes for the future.

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Exploring what Peer-Supported Open Dialogue is by creating a dialogue about it. In this eighth episode of OpenPODpod Billy talks about the blue book, the Normans, and reads a poem. We take special descriptive phrases and think about making badges. Content warning: contains one swear word, and some themes which may be upsetting, including mention of domestic abuse. 

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Exploring what Peer-Supported Open Dialogue is by creating a dialogue about it. In this seventh episode of OpenPODpod Billy talks about how we can fit safeguarding in to Peer Supported Open Dialogue Network Meetings in an open dialogical and compassionate way. Content warning: contains some themes which may be upsetting, including mention of domestic abuse. 

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Exploring what Peer-Supported Open Dialogue is by creating a dialogue about it. In this sixth episode, we welcome Oppi who is new to Open Dialogue and an advocate for change. We reflect together on how a "not-knowing" approach is essential to the work and using of ourselves is a part of it too.

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Exploring what Peer-Supported Open Dialogue is by creating a dialogue about it. In this fifth episode, Billy and Amanda think together of how Jaako Seikkula started to think about needs-adapted ways of working in 1992 and where we are now. We reflect together on safeguarding and how to handle it openly, using terms of safety rather than risk.

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Exploring what Peer-Supported Open Dialogue is by creating a dialogue about it. In this fourth episode, Billy tells the sock story and we talk about the choreography of dialogues. We reflect together on how learning is sometimes unlearning and how to show emotions authentically whilst holding a space with appropriate levels of respect for those emotions.

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Exploring what Peer-Supported Open Dialogue is by creating a dialogue about it. In this third episode, Billy gives us some books to buy and tells us the three most important words he teaches to his students. We reflect together on how dialogue is nothing without reflection and how reflection creates further dialogue.

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Exploring what Peer-Supported Open Dialogue is by creating a dialogue about it. In this second episode, Amanda and Billy talk to Fiona about what brought them here. We reflect together on how dialogues within conversations can be as complex and as beautiful as dance - and as simple, too.

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Exploring what Peer-Supported Open Dialogue is by creating a dialogue about it. In this first episode, Amanda and Billy talk about talking to stimulate reflections from our listeners on what dialogical practice might look like. We reflect together from the position of an honest perspective on how the seemingly simple concept of having an "open dialogue" could be so challenging to define.

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