Rooftop Ruby Podcast Tue, 26 May 2026 04:16:04 -0700 https://www.rooftopruby.com en-us © 2026 Rooftop Ruby Podcast yes bad72507-8d6d-5f72-8a6c-85555fe35440 Collin Donnell, Joel Drapper episodic false Two Ruby programmers (Collin Donnell and Joel Drapper) discuss Ruby, web and native software development, technology, and more.

]]> Buzzsprout (https://www.buzzsprout.com) Ruby, Programming, Software, Web development, Podcast Collin Donnell, Joel Drapper https://storage.buzzsprout.com/0ldz4i8o06u5y0typqeqlkbcbu5l?.jpg Rooftop Ruby Podcast Collin Donnell Joel Drapper 46: Wallaby's and Terminal UIs 46: Wallaby's and Terminal UIs Send us Fan Mail

We're back! Collin live in Australia now. Joel is building a new gem for creating rich terminal UIs with Phlex. So much to say, so much left to be said.

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We're back! Collin live in Australia now. Joel is building a new gem for creating rich terminal UIs with Phlex. So much to say, so much left to be said.

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]]> Collin Donnell, Joel Drapper Buzzsprout-19240962 Tue, 26 May 2026 04:00:00 -0700 3270 46 full false 45: New Projects and AI Detox 45: New Projects and AI Detox Send us Fan Mail

Collin and Joel both have new projects to talk about. Collin has become skeptical on LLM assisted coding and is taking a break from it.

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Collin and Joel both have new projects to talk about. Collin has become skeptical on LLM assisted coding and is taking a break from it.

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]]> Collin Donnell, Joel Drapper Buzzsprout-17596424 Thu, 31 Jul 2025 16:00:00 -0700 5001 45 full false 44: Hanami and Chippy Buddies with Tim Riley 44: Hanami and Chippy Buddies with Tim Riley Send us Fan Mail

Tim Riley joins to discuss Hanami and it’s new fundraising drive. Support if you can so Hanami can continue getting the support it needs.

We also discuss the Chippy Butty (aka Chippy Buddy) and California Burritos. Honestly, it's a little offensive the two were even compared, but Rooftop Ruby is all about teaching the controversy, I guess.

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Tim Riley joins to discuss Hanami and it’s new fundraising drive. Support if you can so Hanami can continue getting the support it needs.

We also discuss the Chippy Butty (aka Chippy Buddy) and California Burritos. Honestly, it's a little offensive the two were even compared, but Rooftop Ruby is all about teaching the controversy, I guess.

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]]> Collin Donnell, Joel Drapper Buzzsprout-17321855 Wed, 11 Jun 2025 15:00:00 -0700 4954 44 full false 43: I Think I Saw a Ghost 43: I Think I Saw a Ghost Send us Fan Mail

Collin recounts his 3,000 mile roadtrip, where he definitely met a wild horse, and possibly a ghost. Joel has a new gem that makes working with raw instance variables in Ruby nicer. Zed is getting a debugger. 

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Collin recounts his 3,000 mile roadtrip, where he definitely met a wild horse, and possibly a ghost. Joel has a new gem that makes working with raw instance variables in Ruby nicer. Zed is getting a debugger. 

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]]> Collin Donnell, Joel Drapper Buzzsprout-17177509 Fri, 16 May 2025 14:00:00 -0700 3148 43 full false 42: You Can Go Any Speed You Want 42: You Can Go Any Speed You Want Send us Fan Mail

Joel and Collin discuss a variety of topics ranging from road trips and procrastination to coding tools and AI advancements. They share personal experiences from recent travels, delve into the challenges of productivity, and reflect on their conference experiences. The discussion also touches on the evolution of coding tools, the future of iOS and macOS, and the implications of AI in development. The conversation concludes with light-hearted banter about dreams and the potential of technology.


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Joel and Collin discuss a variety of topics ranging from road trips and procrastination to coding tools and AI advancements. They share personal experiences from recent travels, delve into the challenges of productivity, and reflect on their conference experiences. The discussion also touches on the evolution of coding tools, the future of iOS and macOS, and the implications of AI in development. The conversation concludes with light-hearted banter about dreams and the potential of technology.


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]]> Collin Donnell, Joel Drapper Buzzsprout-17024014 Tue, 22 Apr 2025 14:00:00 -0700 3075 full false 41: There's no "R" in Naur 41: There's no "R" in Naur Send us Fan Mail

We follow-up with an audio based piece of feedback on the Australian pronunciation of "Pinnochio." 

  • Collin is sick with shingles 🥺 
  • Testing and security
  • MVVM in Ruby desktop app development
  • Performance in server design

And of course, talk about British and American food.

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We follow-up with an audio based piece of feedback on the Australian pronunciation of "Pinnochio." 

  • Collin is sick with shingles 🥺 
  • Testing and security
  • MVVM in Ruby desktop app development
  • Performance in server design

And of course, talk about British and American food.

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]]> Collin Donnell, Joel Drapper Buzzsprout-16928379 Sun, 06 Apr 2025 20:00:00 -0700 1873 41 full false 40: Brought to You by McVities 40: Brought to You by McVities Send us Fan Mail

Joel explains why he loves Svelte 5 so much and Collin talks about an iOS app he put on GitHub.

Collin realizes relating everything back to how it's like Swift might only be a useful comparison for himself.

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Joel explains why he loves Svelte 5 so much and Collin talks about an iOS app he put on GitHub.

Collin realizes relating everything back to how it's like Swift might only be a useful comparison for himself.

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]]> Collin Donnell, Joel Drapper Buzzsprout-16665400 Thu, 20 Feb 2025 14:00:00 -0800 5698 40 full false 39: I Just Want Some Structure 39: I Just Want Some Structure Send us Fan Mail

Exciting News! We're both unemployed! Someone hire us 🥺 You could even hire both of us—a dream team for hire, you might say.

This week, Collin accidentally deletes his Application Support folder on his Mac, and we talk Xcode, text editors, and Difftastic.

Joel goes in-depth on Tree-sitter and writing a SQLite parser. Plus, we discuss task management apps.

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Exciting News! We're both unemployed! Someone hire us 🥺 You could even hire both of us—a dream team for hire, you might say.

This week, Collin accidentally deletes his Application Support folder on his Mac, and we talk Xcode, text editors, and Difftastic.

Joel goes in-depth on Tree-sitter and writing a SQLite parser. Plus, we discuss task management apps.

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]]> Collin Donnell, Joel Drapper Buzzsprout-16546178 Sat, 01 Feb 2025 21:00:00 -0800 4447 39 full false Semantic and Other Versioning Systems Semantic and Other Versioning Systems Send us Fan Mail

Thanksgiving, mince pies, and Joel is giving up on semantic versioning.

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Thanksgiving, mince pies, and Joel is giving up on semantic versioning.

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]]> Collin Donnell, Joel Drapper Buzzsprout-16230231 Thu, 05 Dec 2024 15:00:00 -0800 2337 38 full false Literal 1.0 and Where We’ve Been Literal 1.0 and Where We’ve Been Send us Fan Mail

Collin and Joel discuss where they’ve been, Collin’s broken wrist, getting into film photography, and the release Literal 1.0.

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Collin and Joel discuss where they’ve been, Collin’s broken wrist, getting into film photography, and the release Literal 1.0.

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]]> Collin Donnell, Joel Drapper Buzzsprout-16138018 Tue, 19 Nov 2024 18:00:00 -0800 3556 37 full false When You See It, You Know It When You See It, You Know It Send us Fan Mail

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Fahrenheit versus celsius? How many degrees fast is a race car?

The new "it" in Ruby, and why do unnamed block parameters start with _1?

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Fahrenheit versus celsius? How many degrees fast is a race car?

The new "it" in Ruby, and why do unnamed block parameters start with _1?

We're going to be at Madison Ruby!

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]]> Collin Donnell, Joel Drapper Buzzsprout-15359319 Wed, 03 Jul 2024 16:00:00 -0700 2006 36 full false 35: Kind of Cool and Interesting 35: Kind of Cool and Interesting Send us Fan Mail

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]]> Collin Donnell, Joel Drapper Buzzsprout-14453859 Tue, 06 Feb 2024 16:00:00 -0800 2338 35 full false 34: They Do Communicate to a Degree 34: They Do Communicate to a Degree Send us Fan Mail

Joel and Collin are back and better than ever! We talk about what and when to outsource, what we've both been up to, Collin's drivers license finasco, TypeScript, and more.

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Joel and Collin are back and better than ever! We talk about what and when to outsource, what we've both been up to, Collin's drivers license finasco, TypeScript, and more.

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]]> Collin Donnell, Joel Drapper Buzzsprout-14402358 Mon, 29 Jan 2024 17:00:00 -0800 2427 34 full false 33: You Had Me at Battlesnake With ChaelCodes 33: You Had Me at Battlesnake With ChaelCodes Send us Fan Mail

Rachael Wright-Munn (ChaelCodes) joins to talk everything from coding games to RubyConf to App Store policies.



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Rachael Wright-Munn (ChaelCodes) joins to talk everything from coding games to RubyConf to App Store policies.



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]]> Collin Donnell Buzzsprout-14145055 Wed, 13 Dec 2023 19:00:00 -0800 3262 33 full false Live at RubyConf 2023! Live at RubyConf 2023! Send us Fan Mail

Collin and Joel are joined by friend of the show Roman to talk about the conference, before being joined by special guest Catherine Ricafort McCreary to discuss Artists Who Code.

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Collin and Joel are joined by friend of the show Roman to talk about the conference, before being joined by special guest Catherine Ricafort McCreary to discuss Artists Who Code.

Artists Who Code in the LA Times

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]]> Collin Donnell, Joel Drapper Buzzsprout-14006920 Mon, 20 Nov 2023 13:00:00 -0800 2366 32 bonus false 31: An Accordion of Complexity 31: An Accordion of Complexity Send us Fan Mail

Collin and Joel discuss creating the router and ORM for Yipee! (Joel's new web framework) and how to think about using resourceful versus custom routes.

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Collin and Joel discuss creating the router and ORM for Yipee! (Joel's new web framework) and how to think about using resourceful versus custom routes.

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]]> Collin Donnell, Joel Drapper Buzzsprout-13922979 Tue, 07 Nov 2023 00:00:00 -0800 2818 31 full false 30: Robot First Graders 30: Robot First Graders Send us Fan Mail

Collin and Joel catch up and talk the Rooftop Ruby RubyConf party, becoming a morning person, tricking AI, making a web framework, and time travel.

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Collin and Joel catch up and talk the Rooftop Ruby RubyConf party, becoming a morning person, tricking AI, making a web framework, and time travel.

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]]> Collin Donnell, Joel Drapper Buzzsprout-13889752 Wed, 01 Nov 2023 10:00:00 -0700 3896 30 full false 29: Ruby Central’s Adarsh Pandit and Allison McMillan 29: Ruby Central’s Adarsh Pandit and Allison McMillan Send us Fan Mail

Ruby Central’s Adarsh Pandit and Allison McMillan join the show to discuss Ruby Central, how organizing conferences has changed in the past few years, and more.

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Ruby Central’s Adarsh Pandit and Allison McMillan join the show to discuss Ruby Central, how organizing conferences has changed in the past few years, and more.

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]]> Collin Donnell Buzzsprout-13825523 Tue, 24 Oct 2023 00:00:00 -0700 2404 Ruby, Rails 29 full false 28: SQLite in Production With Stephen Margheim 28: SQLite in Production With Stephen Margheim Send us Fan Mail

Stephen Margheim talks about SQLite in production Rails and more.

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]]> Collin Donnell, Joel Drapper Buzzsprout-13811044 Thu, 19 Oct 2023 12:00:00 -0700 4551 28 full false 27: Hiring Juniors with Ryan Bigg 27: Hiring Juniors with Ryan Bigg Send us Fan Mail

Ryan Bigg talks about hiring juniors, writing, and company culture.

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]]> Collin Donnell Buzzsprout-13761880 Wed, 11 Oct 2023 14:00:00 -0700 2535 27 full false 26: Large Language Models with Simon Willison 26: Large Language Models with Simon Willison Send us Fan Mail

Django co-creator Simon Willison joins to talk about large language models.

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Django co-creator Simon Willison joins to talk about large language models.

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]]> Collin Donnell Buzzsprout-13676934 Wed, 27 Sep 2023 20:00:00 -0700 5152 26 full false 25: You Deserve a Tech Union with Ethan Marcotte 25: You Deserve a Tech Union with Ethan Marcotte Send us Fan Mail

We're joined by designer Ethan Marcotte to talk about his new book You Deserve a Tech Union.

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]]> Collin Donnell Buzzsprout-13574569 Tue, 12 Sep 2023 00:00:00 -0700 2145 25 full false 24: Travel, Developer Maxims, and Paid Gems 24: Travel, Developer Maxims, and Paid Gems Send us Fan Mail

Travel, tech unions, developer maxims and paid Ruby gems.

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]]> Collin Donnell Buzzsprout-13535747 Tue, 05 Sep 2023 13:00:00 -0700 2119 24 full false 23: Head of Open Source at Ruby Central André Arko 23: Head of Open Source at Ruby Central André Arko Send us Fan Mail

Ruby Central head of open source André Arko talks Bundler, Ruby Gems, supporting the community, and more.

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Ruby Central head of open source André Arko talks Bundler, Ruby Gems, supporting the community, and more.

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]]> Collin Donnell Buzzsprout-13495314 Tue, 29 Aug 2023 18:00:00 -0700 2803 23 full false 22: Abstraction Goes All the Way Down 22: Abstraction Goes All the Way Down Send us Fan Mail

We talk about CODE by Charles Petzold, which is great and everyone should read.

Collin is done ranking his hacks and is doing some comfort C programming. 

Meanwhile Joel has finished implementing Literal in a real project and is figuring out how to use Sidekiq across processes.

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We talk about CODE by Charles Petzold, which is great and everyone should read.

Collin is done ranking his hacks and is doing some comfort C programming. 

Meanwhile Joel has finished implementing Literal in a real project and is figuring out how to use Sidekiq across processes.

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]]> Collin Donnell Buzzsprout-13379901 Wed, 09 Aug 2023 16:00:00 -0700 1574 22 full false 21: As Not Miserable as You Can Be with Dave Copeland 21: As Not Miserable as You Can Be with Dave Copeland Send us Fan Mail

Dave Copeland joins to discuss writing, background jobs, service objects, and more.

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]]> Collin Donnell, Joel Drapper Buzzsprout-13333451 Tue, 01 Aug 2023 15:00:00 -0700 3362 programming, ruby 21 full false 20: Literal Metaprogramming 20: Literal Metaprogramming Send us Fan Mail

Collin and Joel discuss leaving the cloud, password management, security, and metaprogramming.

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]]> Buzzsprout-13248437 Tue, 18 Jul 2023 17:00:00 -0700 2399 20 full false 19: CSS, Stimulus, PhlexUI? 19: CSS, Stimulus, PhlexUI? Send us Fan Mail

  • Joel is coming to RubyConf in San Diego!
  • Collin has been thinking about CSS, Stimulus, and building on top of Phlex.

Collin is available for freelance work. You should hire him! Get in touch via Mastodon.

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  • Joel is coming to RubyConf in San Diego!
  • Collin has been thinking about CSS, Stimulus, and building on top of Phlex.

Collin is available for freelance work. You should hire him! Get in touch via Mastodon.

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]]> Collin Donnell Buzzsprout-13219003 Thu, 13 Jul 2023 12:00:00 -0700 3081 19 full false 18: American Muffins, Error Messages, RailsWorld 18: American Muffins, Error Messages, RailsWorld Send us Fan Mail

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]]> Collin Donnell Buzzsprout-13166846 Wed, 05 Jul 2023 11:00:00 -0700 2957 18 full false 17: Technical Debt and Duplication Over Abstraction 17: Technical Debt and Duplication Over Abstraction Send us Fan Mail

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]]> Collin Donnell Buzzsprout-13136668 Thu, 29 Jun 2023 20:00:00 -0700 2988 17 full false 16: MVC Isn’t MVC 16: MVC Isn’t MVC Send us Fan Mail

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]]> Collin Donnell Buzzsprout-13078829 Tue, 20 Jun 2023 18:00:00 -0700 2536 16 full false 15: Apple Keynote, Literal, and Service Objects 15: Apple Keynote, Literal, and Service Objects Send us Fan Mail

We’re both recording from inside our homes for the first time in weeks! We discuss the Apple Keynote, Joel’s progress on his Literal gem, and Collin’s assertion that service objects sometimes just don’t pass the vibe check.

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We’re both recording from inside our homes for the first time in weeks! We discuss the Apple Keynote, Joel’s progress on his Literal gem, and Collin’s assertion that service objects sometimes just don’t pass the vibe check.

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]]> Collin Donnell Buzzsprout-13049099 Thu, 15 Jun 2023 18:00:00 -0700 3498 15 full false 14: New York, Editors and AI 14: New York, Editors and AI Send us Fan Mail

We're back! This week we talk about Joel's trip to New York, code editors, and AI assisted coding.

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]]> Collin Donnell Buzzsprout-12985537 Tue, 06 Jun 2023 00:00:00 -0700 1916 14 full false 13: Open Source and More With Marco Roth 13: Open Source and More With Marco Roth Send us Fan Mail

Joel is recording from his car, Collin is recording from a sauna, and Marco Roth is here to talk about Stimulus Reflex, Hotwire, and more. 

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Joel is recording from his car, Collin is recording from a sauna, and Marco Roth is here to talk about Stimulus Reflex, Hotwire, and more. 

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]]> Collin Donnell Buzzsprout-12857227 Tue, 16 May 2023 00:00:00 -0700 2484 13 full false 12: Literally a Ruby Gem 12: Literally a Ruby Gem Send us Fan Mail

Collin is finally back in Portland — it only took 6156 miles of driving! Meanwhile, Joel made another gem called Literal. Oh, and Collin might be entering a new era.

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Collin is finally back in Portland — it only took 6156 miles of driving! Meanwhile, Joel made another gem called Literal. Oh, and Collin might be entering a new era.

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]]> Collin Donnell Buzzsprout-12810571 Tue, 09 May 2023 00:00:00 -0700 2099 12 full false 11: Still Nowhere Near Portland 11: Still Nowhere Near Portland Send us Fan Mail

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]]> Collin Donnell Buzzsprout-12765520 Tue, 02 May 2023 00:00:00 -0700 2234 11 full false 10: Road to RailsConf 10: Road to RailsConf Send us Fan Mail

Collin has been on a 3100 mile journey from Portland Oregon to RailsConf in Atlanta Georgia. We also discuss going to conferences and how to have the best time. 

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Collin has been on a 3100 mile journey from Portland Oregon to RailsConf in Atlanta Georgia. We also discuss going to conferences and how to have the best time. 

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]]> Collin Donnell Buzzsprout-12717098 Tue, 25 Apr 2023 00:00:00 -0700 1904 10 full false 9: Dry-RB and Hanami with Tim Riley 9: Dry-RB and Hanami with Tim Riley Send us Fan Mail

Tim Riley joins to talk about dry-rb and the Hanami web framework.

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]]> Collin Donnell, Joel Drapper Buzzsprout-12666537 Tue, 18 Apr 2023 00:00:00 -0700 4516 9 full false 8: That Means Interviewing 8: That Means Interviewing Send us Fan Mail

Collin and Joel discuss interviewing, how to interview, and how to succeed.

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]]> Collin Donnell, Joel Drapper Buzzsprout-12491645 Tue, 11 Apr 2023 00:00:00 -0700 2522 8 full false 7: MySQL for Developers with Aaron Francis 7: MySQL for Developers with Aaron Francis Send us Fan Mail

Developer educator Aaron Francis on databases, independent software development, and more. 

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]]> Collin Donnell, Joel Drapper Buzzsprout-12552998 Tue, 04 Apr 2023 00:00:00 -0700 4330 7 full false 6: Favorite Developer Tools 6: Favorite Developer Tools Send us Fan Mail

Collin and Joel discuss some of their favorite developer tools.

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]]> Collin Donnell, Joel Drapper Buzzsprout-12480947 Tue, 28 Mar 2023 00:00:00 -0700 2241 6 full false 5: Vanilla Never Tasted So Hot 5: Vanilla Never Tasted So Hot Send us Fan Mail

Special guest Jared White joins Collin and Joel to talk about Bridgetown, the Spicy Web and more.

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]]> Collin Donnell, Joel Drapper Buzzsprout-12434667 Tue, 21 Mar 2023 00:00:00 -0700 2720 5 full false 4: Green Dots and Boogie 4: Green Dots and Boogie Send us Fan Mail

Joel wrote a testing library and how we approach a new codebase. 

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]]> Collin Donnell, Joel Drapper Buzzsprout-12350761 Tue, 07 Mar 2023 00:00:00 -0800 2392 4 full false 3: Creating Gems 3: Creating Gems Send us Fan Mail

How to create and publish gems.

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Collin and Joel discuss lessons they’ve learned from studying other languages, internet connect troubles and successes, and more.

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Welcome to the first episode of Rooftop Ruby with Collin and Joel.

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