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Measured #48 - Mark Burnett

Wed, 20 May 2026 13:00:00 +1200

In this conversation, Rene sits down with Mark Burnett (AMC Consultants) to explore the psychology behind mining industry decision-making, reporting codes, and self-regulation. They discuss reporting codes (thanks to Mark for the South African/SAMREC insights this episode), cognitive dissonance, fraud in mining, ethics, resource classification, overregulation, competent persons, and why the industry keeps repeating the same mistakes. This is a deep dive into mineral resource reporting, geological uncertainty, investor behaviour, and the human factors behind technical and regulatory frameworks.
Topics include:
• JORC Code, SAMREC Code and CRIRSCO reporting standards
• Self-regulation in mining
• Cognitive dissonance and rationalisation traps
• Fraud, ethics, and decision-making in geology
• Mineral resource classification and uncertainty
• Competent Persons and reporting responsibilities
• Overregulation, market reporting, and investor psychology
If you work in mining, geology, resource estimation, or technical reporting, this discussion will give you a fresh perspective on the industry’s biggest structural (pun intended) and psychological challenges.

Timestamps
01:35 Meet Mark Burnett
05:20 Why Smart People Stop Reading
09:26 History, Context & Better Decisions
13:05 Why Mining Keeps Repeating Mistakes
20:09 Fraud, Bias & the Rationalisation Trap
30:54 Should Psychology Be Mandatory?
41:56 Overregulation Is Killing Judgment
53:12 Classification, Uncertainty & False Precision
1:09:05 Fraud, Human Nature & Final Thoughts

References:
00:10:15 – The Thirties: 1930–1940 in Great Britain by Malcolm Muggeridge (Hamish Hamilton, GB, 1940);
00:19:09 – The Smartest Guys in the Room: The Amazing Rise and Scandalous Fall of Enron by Bethany McLean and Peter Elkind (Penguin Publishing Group, 2013);
00:19:27 – JORC 1972 report;
00:25:31 – The Big Score: Robert Friedland, INCO, and the Voisey’s Bay Hustle by Jacquie McNish (Doubleday Canada, 1998);
00:26:13 – Rae Commission reports, Australian Securities Markets and Their Regulation;
00:42:39 – The Junior Officers’ Reading Club: Killing Time and Fighting Wars by Patrick Hennessey (Pengiun Books Limited, 2009);
00:42:56 – “Lotophages” Figurative Meaning: A person who lives a life of lazy pleasure, apathy, and luxury, ignoring practical worries or responsibilities.
00:43:16 – Mark Burnett, “Mineral Resource Classification: A View” (Geobulletin, March 2026);
00:53:43 – Parker HM and Dohm C (2014), Evolution of Mineral Resource Classification from 1980 to 2014 and Current Best Practice, Finex 2014 Julius Wernher Lecture.

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Measured #47 - Sefton Darby

Tue, 28 Apr 2026 13:00:00 +1200

In this conversation, René sits down with Sefton Darby to unpack why ESG has attracted so much backlash—and what that means for mining, permitting, and public trust. They talk about the difference between sustainability reporting and real-world outcomes, why “social performance” work often fails when it’s treated as purely external comms, and what the best operators do differently: long lead times, strong internal links to operations, and decisions that change based on community input.
They also dig into New Zealand’s fast-tracking debate, the growing pressure to “just get stuff done” amid geopolitical instability, and why cutting corners on regulation can backfire by reducing confidence and acceptance.
Finally, they get into the uncomfortable bits: the broken incentives in the exploration-to-mine pathway, why early-stage funding rarely supports social and environmental risk work, and what needs to change—skills, governance, investors, and public science—to build projects that can actually last.

Timestamps:
0:01:17 - Guest intro and the conversation agenda
0:02:46 - Setting the scene: career journey into mining policy
0:04:05 - UK government → EITI: corruption, transparency, and extractives
0:08:37 - Returning to NZ and moving into industry (Newmont/Waihi)
0:12:54 - Correnso project: community impacts and “social performance” realities
0:15:29 - Is anyone doing it right? What “good” looks like
0:21:30 - ESG noise, algorithms, and the fast-track era
0:28:35 - New Zealand fast-track + “Shaneocracy”: politics vs long-term licence
0:42:35 - Case examples and the “broken” exploration-to-mine model
0:58:36 - Public science, trust drivers, and why watering down regulation backfires

Subscribe / comment: I’d love to hear your take—what does “doing it well” actually look like in practice?

Measured #46 - Realities of Consulting

Wed, 08 Oct 2025 12:00:00 +1300

Why Projects Blow the Budget: Consultants Tell All

Welcome to a deep-dive conversation on the realities of consulting and project management. In this episode, Rene sits down with industry leaders —Tarrant Elkington (GM, Snowden Optiro Consultants), Andrew Hall (MD, AMC Consultants), and Mark Noppé (ex-CEO, XSTRACT Consultants & Chair of SRK) —to explore why so many projects run over budget and what consultants can do about it. We kick off with a candid look at “strategic misrepresentation” and the cognitive biases that affect both consultants and clients, and why even the best teams underestimate costs.

Hear candid stories, practical tips, and lessons learned on scoping, client communication, and the power of peer review. If you want to know what really happens behind the scenes in consulting, —and how to avoid common pitfalls, —this conversation is for you!.

Timestamps:
16:11 - Having discussions as early as possible
17:05 - Frustration with Procurement departments?
18:59 - It's about communication, stupid!
20:17 - Flyvbjerg's Anchoring approach to project scoping
22:02 - Are you aware of your own anchoring bias?
22:22 - Iteration!
24:46 - Hidden cost, take it on the chin!
29:47 - Fixed-price quotes?
41:26 - Building feedback loops and milestones
43:33 - The Power of Peer Reviews
46:50 - Risk management, governance, boards.

Measured #45 - Tim Craske

Mon, 15 Sep 2025 14:00:00 +1200

In this conversation, Tim Craske, Director and CEO Geowisdom and Thinker Events, and Rene explore how to drive the industry forward and inspire the next generation of geologists. Discussing the importance of scientific debate and the challenges of fostering innovation in the mining industry they touch on the need for long-term strategy, the impact of geopolitical shifts, and the role of mentoring and nurturing new talent.

Charles Darwin Discovery Mentoring Program - for further info visit www.thinker.events

Timestamps:
02:48 The importance of work culture.
08:04 Industry problems - Closure of Geology courses in Australia
11:40 The industry is lacking strategy knowledge
15:17 Technology won't change exploration; a different perspective will.
20:36 Morrison Discovery Mentoring Program
27:23 Industry excitement
42:12 Challenge & debate - good for discovery?

Measured #44 - Victoria Yehl

Mon, 01 Sep 2025 14:00:00 +1200

Rene Sterk dives into the world of National Instrument 43-101 and its upcoming changes. Victoria Yehl, who has worked with the British Columbia Securities Commission for 9 years, shares her expertise on NI 43-101, explains the key changes proposed by the Canadian Securities Administrators, and discusses the importance of engaging technical communication.

Want to learn more about National Instrument 43-101? You can find a range of resources at www.bcsc.bc.ca/mining/

The public feedback period on the proposed NI 43-101 amendments ends on 10 October 2025. For more information: https://www.bcsc.bc.ca/-/media/PWS/New-Resources/Securities-Law/Instruments-and-Policies/Policy-4/43101-CSA-Notice-and-Request-for-Comment-June-12-2025.pdf?dt=20250609170103

Timestamps:
2:10 - Victoria discusses her background and journey from being a geologist to joining the BC Securities Commission (BCSC).
10:22 - The BCSC setup and how the team works together.
18:15 - Some of the interesting changes in NI43-101.
22:30 - The Vancouver Resource Investment Conference.
24:20 - Are Retail investors aware of the NI 43-101 report?
39:27 - PEA Disclosure.
56:37 - Classification problems with mineral resources.
01:10:00 - Overregulation? or are these rules helping investors.

Measured #43 - Steve Beresford & Scott North

Mon, 18 Aug 2025 13:00:00 +1200

In this thought-provoking conversation on the future of mining, Rene delves into the complexities of the mining industry with insights from industry experts Steve Beresford and Scott North. They explore the challenges of exploration, the impact of societal distractions, and the psychological and behavioural roots of the problem. Steve, a man of many hats, including Director of Power Metallic, Founder of Altai Resources, Adjunct Professor at UWA, and Exploration Geologist, and Scott, Co-Founder of Kamoa Capital and industry commentator, discuss why the industry struggles with exploration and the need for a shift in perception. They argue that money isn't the issue; rather, it's the desire to find deposits and the strategic decisions made along the way.

Further info about Steve and Scott’s ventures can be found at:
• Steve: https://www.altai-resources.com | https://www.powermetallic.com
• Scott: https://www.linkedin.com/in/scott-north-k/

Timestamps
02:15 - “Exploration issues are behavioural”
04:45 - or is it a finance issue?
15:12 - “If the project is going to fail, or if it is going to take 25 years, is a constant that is built in right at the very first decision”.
22:21 - Pointing out the behavioural patterns seen.
33:30 - Comparison between China and Australia’s critical minerals processing and skill set.
50:27 - The people required to tackle difficult projects.
1:00:07 - Being distracted by macroeconomics.

Measured #42 - Heath Arvidson

Mon, 11 Aug 2025 15:00:00 +1200

Heath Arvidson, Chief Scientist at Quartex (formerly K2Fly), has a strong background in mining reconciliation and resource governance. He’s co-authored influential papers with Craig Morley and Rayleen Hargreaves, and recently published a white paper titled "A Management System for Mine Reconciliation", highlighting overlooked aspects of reconciliation.
In this chat with Rene, Heath shares how public reporting standards like JORC have driven better practices in resource estimation—and how similar rigor could transform reconciliation. From building sustainable systems to empowering generalists over specialists, the discussion dives into the people, processes, and governance needed to make reconciliation a value-adding business function. A must-listen for anyone passionate about mining, data integrity, and continuous improvement.

https://quartexsoftware.com/ - End-to-end software for high-risk industries
Quartex helps companies in high-risk, asset-intensive industries operate safely and efficiently. From flight scheduling and accommodation to permitting and resource governance, you’ll have everything you need to run every site right.

Timestamps:
01:36 - Heath's current focus - Reconciliation and Software Innovation.
07:00 - Quartex evolving Software for Governance and Training in Mining.
11:30 - Industry Challenges and the Push for Reconciliation Reform
18:00 - Bridging the gap in Mine reconciliation
35:00 - The Challenge of Standardizing Reconciliation Terminology
50:00 - Reconciliation as True Quality Control

Measured #41 - Mo Srivastava

Mon, 21 Jul 2025 14:00:00 +1200

In this episode of Measured, Rene interviews Mo Srivastava, a Senior Consultant at Red Dot 3D and renowned geostatistician. Reflecting on his dynamic career, Mo shares his continually evolving perspective on the philosophies that underpin consulting, as well as some memorable stories and anecdotes from his global travels. Mo and Rene discuss how effective and meaningful consulting needs to be more than simply supplying technical solutions — long-term success requires working with clients to ensure they also have the resources (and mindsets!) to sustain these outcomes.

Timestamps:
00:02:05: Working and travelling around the world
00:12:35: The philosophy of consulting
00:16:40: Project anecdotes
00:32:58: What is a ‘consultant’?
00:40:27: Finding joy in work
00:44:48: Risk taking and career progression
00:51:31: Probabilistic projections and reporting
01:10:23: Statistical significance and materiality
1:29:46: Subjective experience and judgment accuracy

Measured #40 - Rayleen Hargreaves

Mon, 14 Jul 2025 14:00:00 +1200

Rayleen Hargreaves, Principal Consultant at Snowden Optiro took time out of her busy schedule to answer René’s questions on reconciliation, the common issues encountered, and new industry tools that can assist with reconciliation.

Timestamps:
1:38 Why is it so hard to break reconciliation out of Excel?
7:19 Dealing with people problems in reconciliation
10:00 Should there be peer review and auditing guidelines?
12:17 Why we need more literature on underground reconciliation processes.
13:58 Is PowerBI a threat, or something that should be embraced?

Measured #39 - Paul Hodkiewicz

Mon, 30 Jun 2025 14:00:00 +1200

After spending most of his working life within large organisations, Paul Hodkiewicz is now an independent consultant (Samarah Solutions).
Following his participation in a panel discussion at the MRE conference last month, Paul sat down with Rene and discussed how to handle the data overload many of us face, and the need to be able to agree to disagree in order to solve the big problems facing our the industry.

Timestamp:
2:23 Challenging the status quo.
6:33 Innovation and moving the needle
10:18 Resolution Reduction problem
12:50 Pixels to intervals – the translation gap in the industry
14:20 Drillholes as representative outcrops
17:40 Seeing possibilities in problems
18:22 Simple data tools and using what’s available
21:20 Future plans and teaching opportunities

Measured #38 - Mike Stewart

Mon, 23 Jun 2025 14:00:00 +1200

Mike Stewart is a Technical Domain Expert for Seequent, the creators of Leapfrog software. Mike was one of our first Measured podcast guests, and filmed Measured #5 with Rene back in July 2022, so it was about time for another chat.

Filmed at the AusIMM’s Mineral Resource Estimation Conference in Perth, Mike outlines new developments within Leapfrog, and discusses with Rene the value in the recent Seequent Evo release and Seequent's role in the future of Cloud-based applications and integrations.

Timestamps:

1:02 - The new platform: Seequent Evo.
2:45 - How Evo works, and why it's game-changing.
5:55 - What are Seequent’s plans for improving geostatistical tools.
7:03 - Bringing the Seequent/Leapfrog experience to geostatistical tools.
11:00 - Seequent's future potential with AI, new algorithms, etc

Measured #37 - Angus Tod

Mon, 16 Jun 2025 14:00:00 +1200

Rene caught up with Angus Tod, Vice President Global Commercial at Veracio, while he was on site at the MREC showcasing Veracio’s core scanning technology. They talked about the challenges in conveying the value new technology such as core scanning can bring to the industry.

Veracio (https://www.veracio.com) provides mineral exploration and mining companies with a range of technology solutions that are specifically designed to improve the speed, richness, and reliability of core sample and downhole data.

Time Stamps:
1:20 - Introducing Angus & Veracio.
6:15 - Why don't people proceed after a core scanning pilot study?
8:50 - Positive case studies
10:03 - Workflow problems, caused by the amount of data now being collected and data quantity.
13:48 - What's next for Veracio.

UnMeasured

Wed, 04 Jun 2025 09:00:00 +1200

Measured has been doing the rounds again, this time featuring a ‘Round Table’ meeting with several industry experts.

In this special episode of (Un)Measured, René sits down with Mark Hall, Jon Hronsky, Dave Lawie, Jacqui Coombes, and R. Mohan ("Mo") Srivastava to discuss their backgrounds and how and why they progressed in their respective fields. Join them as they discuss accidental careers, the highs and lows of business travel, good versus bad exploration, the impact of AI, impostor syndrome, and the need for good storytelling in geostatistics.

Measured is RSC’s podcast series, with RSC Managing Director and Principal Consultant René Sterk conversing with a range of industry personalities. Expect a range of talking points, many with a technical theme, but also some of our industry friends sharing anecdotes about their career in the mineral exploration and mining sector and thoughts on some of the issues the industry faces.

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Timestamps:
00:04:11 – Introductions: Who is round the table?
00:14:33 – The highs and lows of travelling for work.
00:20:47 – Planned and ‘accidental’ careers, and the need for flexibility.
00:38:06 – Mentoring and the need for good storytelling in geostatistics.
00:54:14 – AI and technology in modelling and resource estimation
00:58:09 – Risk: Innovation, proof of concept paralysis, and happy hominins.
01:11:40 – What is good exploration, and how does bad exploration differ from unsuccessful exploration?
01:18:51 – Impostor syndrome, experiences and solutions.
01:35:18 – Constructive debate and the need for effective critique.
01:52:07 – Dealing with uncertainty.

Measured #36 - Bruce Armstrong

Wed, 28 May 2025 15:00:00 +1200

Measured hit the road earlier this month to catch up with friends and industry experts at the AusIMM’s Mineral Resource Estimation Conference in Perth.

In this episode, René is joined by Bruce Armstrong, Managing Director at and Co-Founder of Independent Mineral Standards (IMS), to discuss the journey of the company that Bruce started, and what motivated him Bruce to choose this the entrepreneurial pathway. They also chat about what makes IMS different, and cover highlight some of the technical issues when certifying challenges in preparing certified reference materials (CRMs), particularly for photon assaying.

Measured is RSC’s podcast series, with RSC Managing Director and Principal Consultant René Sterk conversing with a range of industry personalities. Expect a range of talking points, many with a technical theme, but also some of our industry friends sharing anecdotes about their career in the mineral exploration and mining sector and thoughts on some of the issues the industry faces.

Visit https://imstandards.com.au/ for more information on the development, manufacture and use of Certified Reference Materials.

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Timestamps:
01:30 - Establishing IMS
07:10 - Market Gaps & Specialties
11:10 - Misconceptions in Using & Manufacturing CRMs
15:50 - Certification Round Robin Process
22:48 - IMS's Crushed CRM for Photon Assaying
28:00 - Get in touch with IMS

Measured #35 - Matt Briggs

Wed, 21 May 2025 16:00:00 +1200

Measured hit the road earlier this month to catch up with friends and industry experts at the AusIMM’s Mineral Resource Estimation Conference in Perth.

In this episode, René is joined by Matt Briggs, Non-Executive Director of Odyssey Gold, to discuss the Minerals Reporting Australia initiative that Matt has been influential in establishing. They discuss what led to the creation of the not-for-profit organisation, how it will be managed, and what it hopes to achieve.

Head over to https://www.mineralsreporting.org/ for more information on Minerals Reporting Australia

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00:00: Introducing Matt & how Matt got involved in Minerals Reporting Australia (MRA)
02:35: MRA’s objectives
08:10: Governance: Who guards the guards?
10:50: Member Expectations & "Mandatory volunteering"
15:52: Altruism & Perceived Conflicts
20:20: How to apply to join MRA

Measured #34 - Andrew Gillis

Thu, 15 May 2025 13:00:00 +1200

Andrew Gillis from Redteam Projects (https://redteamprojects.com) joined me to discuss various mining industry topics, including capital project performance, risk management, and innovation within the mining industry.

Measured is RSC’s podcast series, with RSC Managing Director and Principal Consultant René Sterk conversing with a range of industry personalities. Expect a range of talking points, many with a technical theme, but also some of our industry friends sharing anecdotes about their career in the mineral exploration and mining sector and thoughts on some of the issues the industry faces.

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Timestamps
1:20 Introducing Andrew
3:06 Andrew’s background
10:00 Why Your Baby is Ugly
12:10 Global mega projects
17:00 Entrepreneurs and startups
30:30 What does success look like
47:00 Innovation
1:00:00 Connect with Andrew - Red Team plug!

Measured #33 - Jon Taylor

Thu, 01 May 2025 14:00:00 +1200

Everyone is talking about how we’re facing a talent shortage in the minerals industry, so I sat down with Jon Taylor of Discovery Group, which specialises in technical and executive mining recruitment, to hear about the trends he’s seeing.

Jon discusses how to sell yourself and improve your CV, whether you should include a photo, the influence of AI in recruitment, and misconceptions about recruiters.

Measured is RSC’s podcast series, with RSC Managing Director and Principal Consultant René Sterk conversing with a range of industry personalities. Expect a range of talking points, many with a technical theme, but also some of our industry friends sharing anecdotes about their career in the mineral exploration and mining sector and thoughts on some of the issues the industry faces.

Please enjoy, and don't forget to follow RSC on all our social media platforms!
Video: https://youtu.be/XylcFyybhUs
Audio: https://www.buzzsprout.com/2005023/episodes/15015236
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0:00: Introducing Jon
14:41: Industry recruitment trends
27:02: Selling yourself and your experience
32:50: Jon’s favourite questions
40:50: Dos and Don’ts of CVs
52:09: Discovery Group’s Approach
57:14: Concluding remarks on the skills shortage and industry outreach

Measured #32- Andy Clay

Mon, 06 May 2024 17:00:00 +1200

Should we use ranges on our publicly reported resource estimates to better reflect uncertainty? In this episode, I sit down with Andy Clay to hear how he sees the world of resource classification and variance in estimations.

Measured is RSC’s podcast series, with RSC Managing Director and Principal Consultant René Sterk conversing with a range of industry personalities. Expect a range of talking points, many with a technical theme, but also some of our industry friends sharing anecdotes about their career in the mineral exploration and mining sector and thoughts on some of the issues the industry faces.

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0:00: Prelude
5:08: Introducing Andy Clay
7:59: Reporting codes
34:56: Variance towers
56:30: Case study
1:00:10: Concluding remarks on reporting and classification

Measured #31- Jill Terry

Wed, 17 Jan 2024 16:00:00 +1300

Rapidly advancing to the highest level of technical management in Tier-1 companies, while raising a family in challenging jurisdictions, Jill Terry also casually trained for a half marathon on the side! If you don’t get inspiration from this conversation, then we don’t know who next to talk to!

Measured is RSC’s podcast series, with RSC Managing Director and Principal Consultant René Sterk conversing with a range of industry personalities. Expect a range of talking points, many with a technical theme, but also some of our industry friends sharing anecdotes about their career in the mineral exploration and mining sector and thoughts on some of the issues the industry faces.

Please enjoy, and don't forget to follow RSC on all our social media platforms!

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Timestamps
1:05 Introducing Jill
7:15 Working in PNG and Laos
17:14 Diversity and inclusion
28:29 Educational Development Tools
36:10 ESG
47:11 Which companies are getting it right?
01:02:15 Corporate Strategy
01:11:25 What’s next for Jill?

Measured #30- Jun Cowan

Thu, 27 Jul 2023 12:00:00 +1200

The conceptual founder of Leapfrog, Jun Cowan has an abundance of knowledge to share about geological modelling. Jun joins Rene in the Dunedin studio to discuss how he got his start, Leapfrog and his latest paper.

Measured is RSC’s podcast series, with RSC Managing Director and Principal Consultant René Sterk conversing with a range of industry personalities. Expect a range of talking points, many with a technical theme, but also some of our industry friends sharing anecdotes about their career in the mineral exploration and mining sector and thoughts on some of the issues the industry faces.

Please enjoy, and don't forget to follow RSC on all our social media platforms!

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Timestamps
1:40 Introducing Jun
9:21 Joining SRK and developing ideas
13:26 Making geological sections
19:39 “Auto Domaining”
23:03 Leapfrog – the journey
31:42 Jun’s paper
39:00 What should not have changed in the software
50:20 Our Responsibility
54:50 Education
1:04:55 Thoughts on the Parker Challenge
1:09:52 Revisiting Jun’s paper
1:12:40 Dealing with the naysayers

Measured #29- Scott Dunham & Mike Job

Wed, 28 Jun 2023 12:00:00 +1200

Returning to the Measured Podcast, Scott Dunham is joined by Mike Job as both get into domaining with Rene. The trio also discuss the recent AusIMM Mineral Resource Estimation Conference, The Parker Challenge and capturing uncertainty.

Measured is RSC’s podcast series, with RSC Managing Director and Principal Consultant René Sterk conversing with a range of industry personalities. Expect a range of talking points, many with a technical theme, but also some of our industry friends sharing anecdotes about their career in the mineral exploration and mining sector and thoughts on some of the issues the industry faces.

Please enjoy, and don't forget to follow RSC on all our social media platforms!

Video: https://youtu.be/NZWkanK9FWw
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Timestamps
2:11 Introducing Mike and Scott
3:55 The MREC Domaining Session and what was left on the table
13:35 Discussing the term “geological domaining” as opposed to “estimation domaining”
16:20 Boundary analysis
20:20 Are we stuck in the grade shell space?
24:13 Redefining what a “domain” is
25:24 Is domaining an easy target?
31:35 Is domaining essential for sparse data?
34:00 Should domaining be given to the most experienced geo?
41:20 Grade shell effectiveness
45:35 Rene’s theory
48:00 Quantifying uncertainty
53:50 The Parker Challenge and training data
1:00:30 Auto domaining
1:03:30 Bootstrapping
1:07:53 Pertinent components of your model
1:14:45 Capturing Uncertainty
1:21:27 Deposit error margins

Measured #28- Ben Cooke

Fri, 23 Jun 2023 16:00:00 +1200

How laboratories function is often a mystery to many. Rene is joined by Ben Cooke as they dive into laboratory processes, the Photon Assay, and what is in the pipeline for ALS.

Measured is RSC’s podcast series, with RSC Managing Director and Principal Consultant René Sterk conversing with a range of industry personalities. Expect a range of talking points, many with a technical theme, but also some of our industry friends sharing anecdotes about their career in the mineral exploration and mining sector and thoughts on some of the issues the industry faces.

Please enjoy, and don't forget to follow RSC on all our social media platforms!

Video: https://youtu.be/HDzi0p8hUcM
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Timestamps
2:49 Introducing Ben
5:58 The changes in the industry Ben has seen
11:34 “Points of difference” and working with clients
20:43 Lab audits
25:11 Lab sampling techniques
32:00 The CRM mystery
40:41 Fusion & Assay process
43:09 Photon Assay
50:55 What’s in the pipeline for ALS?

Measured #27- Dick Minnitt

Fri, 09 Jun 2023 16:00:00 +1200

Now retired, Dick Minnitt still remains one of the prominent minds in the field of geostatistics. Dick joins Rene to discuss moving forward in the sampling space, what Dick has been working on in his "retirement' and what SHOULD be done in the lab.

Measured is RSC’s podcast series, with RSC Managing Director and Principal Consultant René Sterk conversing with a range of industry personalities. Expect a range of talking points, many with a technical theme, but also some of our industry friends sharing anecdotes about their career in the mineral exploration and mining sector and thoughts on some of the issues the industry faces.

Please enjoy, and don't forget to follow RSC on all our social media platforms!

Video: https://youtu.be/7NhFfVbeoQ0
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Timestamps
2:32 Introducing Dick
4:45 Is the sampling space moving forward?
8:11 What work needs to be done to grapple with the challenges?
11:52 The counter arguments to Dick's paper
17:40 Who is going to make the change?
23:35 The grouping and segregation error
32:00 The rice experiment and proving Dick's theory
35:51 Ripple versus Core splitter
40:50 Introducing additional variance
49:20 What Dick has been working on
58:15 What is on Dick's mind?

Data QA/QC & pXRF

Fri, 28 Apr 2023 12:00:00 +1200

Rene and RSC General Manager – Geoscience Dr Michael Gazley take a look at the data quality management system for Portable XRF, including the quality of data the instrument produces, Quality Control and pXRF versus laboratory data. #measuredpodcast

Measured is RSC’s podcast series, with RSC Managing Director and Principal Consultant René Sterk conversing with a range of industry personalities. Expect a range of talking points, many with a technical theme, but also some of our industry friends sharing anecdotes about their career in the mineral exploration and mining sector and thoughts on some of the issues the industry faces.

Please enjoy, and don't forget to follow RSC on all our social media platforms!

Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WSozN7W2Lw
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/rsc-...
Instagram: rsc_gram
TikTok: rsc_tiktok

0:34 Introducing the pXRF and the quality of data
2:14 What is the purpose/objective?
4:26 The QA/QC sample does not exist
8:21 Quality Control
12:43 Sensible performance
15:25 Variance of the system
17:52 Controlling the data set
20:35 Accuracy, precision and correcting for bias
22:40 pXRF vs laboratory data
25:20 Avoiding bad data
26:30 Reporting data to JORC
28:44 The future of pXRF and reporting data

measured #26- Andrew Paterson

Tue, 18 Apr 2023 16:00:00 +1200

Collaboration is very topical in the industry right now. Rene is joined by Great Boulder Resources Managing Director Andrew Paterson, as the two get into collaboration, competitiveness and being different in the industry.

Measured is RSC’s podcast series, with RSC Managing Director and Principal Consultant René Sterk conversing with a range of industry personalities. Expect a range of talking points, many with a technical theme, but also some of our industry friends sharing anecdotes about their career in the mineral exploration and mining sector and thoughts on some of the issues the industry faces.

Please enjoy, and don't forget to follow RSC on all our social media platforms!

YouTube: https://youtu.be/nQSzF1621DY
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/rsc-...
Instagram: rsc_gram
TikTok: rsc_tiktok

#measuredpodcast

Timestamps
1:48 Introducing Andrew
5:55 Great Boulder Resources
9:00 Generalists vs Specialists
10:30 Collaboration
12:19 CEO Network
17:00 Competitiveness in the industry
19:40 Being "Different"
23:50 The next generation of CEOs
29:40 Andrew's involvement in other groups

Do Competent Persons own their work, and can they keep it when they leave their employers?

Fri, 14 Apr 2023 16:00:00 +1200

Do Competent Persons own their work, and can they keep it when they leave their employers?
Rene discusses this debate with Steve Rose, Morrie Goodz and Kym Livesley, highlighting the issue and putting forward potential ideas surrounding the topic.

Steve’s thoughts on the topic over on LinkedIn:
https://www.linkedin.com/posts/steve-rose-2a752219_how-long-should-a-competent-person-retain-activity-7043392161056247809-JtQG?utm_source=share&utm_medium=member_desktop

Measured is RSC’s podcast series, with RSC Managing Director and Principal Consultant René Sterk conversing with a range of industry personalities. Expect a range of talking points, many with a technical theme, but also some of our industry friends sharing anecdotes about their career in the mineral exploration and mining sector and thoughts on some of the issues the industry faces.

Please enjoy, and don't forget to follow RSC on all our social media platforms!

YouTube: https://youtu.be/onbp9nrxJkg
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/rsc-...
Instagram: rsc_gram
TikTok: rsc_tiktok

0:00 Do Competent Persons own their work, and can they keep it when they leave their employers?
1:20 Introducing Steve, Morrie and Kym
2:53 What brought Steve to put this question online?
4:15 Who keeps the data?
9:47 Steve on clauses & conflicts
13:10 Morrie and Kym on JORC and contracts
19:06 The problem with cyber security
27:40 The potential of the AusIMM and other professional societies in guiding the Competent Person

Measured #25- Pim van Geffen

Tue, 28 Mar 2023 16:00:00 +1300

"Collaboration in the industry"

In this instalment of the #measuredpodcast, Pim van Geffen and Rene get into a very interesting discussion about collaboration in the industry. How do we get there? How is uncertainty captured? What is the potential of Artificial Intelligence in collaboration? All this, and more…

Measured is RSC’s podcast series, with RSC Managing Director and Principal Consultant René Sterk conversing with a range of industry personalities. Expect a range of talking points, many with a technical theme, but also some of our industry friends sharing anecdotes about their career in the mineral exploration and mining sector and thoughts on some of the issues the industry faces.

Please enjoy, and don't forget to follow RSC on all our social media platforms!

YouTube: @rscyoutube
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/rsc-...
Instagram: rsc_gram
TikTok: rsc_tiktok

#measuredpodcast

Timestamps
2:06 Introducing Pim
11:10 PDAC & ESG
16:43 How we get to the point of collaboration
28:27 The potential of AI in collaboration
29:14 Learnings from all the data
36:23 Data sharing
39:02 Capturing uncertainty
42:44 QA/QC
46:46 The motivations behind our actions (Drive- Daniel Pink)
53:45 Shifts in retail investor attitudes
55:33 What is on Pim’s mind

Measured #24- Richard Morrow

Tue, 28 Feb 2023 12:00:00 +1300

Fresh off the Future Minerals Forum in Riyadh, Rene talks with Melbourne Mining Club Chairman Richard Morrow. Richard and Rene discuss the forum, the Melbourne Mining Club, the industry’s public image, and much more!

Measured is RSC’s podcast series, with RSC Managing Director and Principal Consultant René Sterk conversing with a range of industry personalities. Expect a range of talking points, many with a technical theme, but also some of our industry friends sharing anecdotes about their career in the mineral exploration and mining sector and thoughts on some of the issues the industry faces.

Please enjoy, and don't forget to follow RSC on all our social media platforms!

YouTube: https://youtu.be/phN9F82cCxI
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/rsc-...
Instagram: rscmme
TikTok: rsc_tiktok

#measuredpodcast

Timestamps
2:43 The Future Minerals Forum & industry changes in the Middle East
13:50 Revelations from the Future Minerals Forum
25:28 The IPO Market
34:09 The Industry, investment & public image
41:30 Melbourne Mining Club
46:09 Selecting speakers
50:58 Advancing the industry
52:50 Richard’s final thoughts

Measured #23- Kieren Moffat

Tue, 21 Feb 2023 12:00:00 +1300

Measured #22- Francis Macdonald

Tue, 14 Feb 2023 12:00:00 +1300

Munich-based Francis MacDonald is the Co-Founder of Kenorland Minerals Ltd, and the CEO of Li-FT. Rene and Francis discuss starting a company, Li-FT & the Lithium movement, growing a team and much more!

Measured is RSC’s podcast series, with RSC Managing Director and Principal Consultant René Sterk conversing with a range of industry personalities. Expect a range of talking points, many with a technical theme, but also some of our industry friends sharing anecdotes about their career in the mineral exploration and mining sector and thoughts on some of the issues the industry faces.

Please enjoy, and don't forget to follow RSC on all our social media platforms!

Video: https://youtu.be/tCp3IjntAYA
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/rsc-...
Instagram: rscmme
TikTok: rsc_tiktok

#measuredpodcast

Timestamps
2:09 Introducing Francis
10:25 Starting Kenorland
21:40 The Kenorland business model
24:40 Li-FT
26:00 Is the Lithium movement sustainable?
28:30 Li-FT and Metallurgy
31:50 Growing a team
35:50 The next milestone for Li-FT
37:19 What’s on Francis’s mind?

Measured #21- Allan Trench

Tue, 07 Feb 2023 12:00:00 +1300

Allan Trench is an Author, MBA Director & Professor at the University of Western Australia Business School, and a well-known name in the industry. Allan and Rene discuss the value of a MBA in running exploration companies, they muse about Chat GPT, speculate on the future of gold mining, and much more.

Measured is RSC’s podcast series, with RSC Managing Director and Principal Consultant René Sterk conversing with a range of industry personalities. Expect a range of talking points, many with a technical theme, but also some of our industry friends sharing anecdotes about their career in the mineral exploration and mining sector and thoughts on some of the issues the industry faces.

Please enjoy, and don't forget to follow RSC on all our social media platforms!

YouTube: https://youtu.be/JgMd_aGQ0YY
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/rsc-...
Instagram: rscmme
TikTok: rsc_tiktok

#measuredpodcast

3:40 Introducing Allan
10:00 The MBA debate
https://www.amazon.com/Co-Opetition-Adam-M-Brandenburger/dp/0385479506
16:12 The ASX landscape
28:00 Allan’s students & “data crunch”
30:56 Growing the pie in Geology tertiary education
39:28 Chat GPT and AI
https://www.miningnews.net/strictly-boardroom/opinion/1444881/90-seconds-on-leadership (paywall)
41:42 What is Allan working on?
https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3512681 (Allan’s Green Gold paper)
51:10 Will we be mining gold in 50 years?
1:01:42 Learning & Reputation
1:06:39 Board Composition & Governance
https://www.amazon.com/Fish-Rots-Head-Boardrooms-Developing/dp/1846683297
https://www.amazon.com/Success-Equation-Untangling-Business-Investing-ebook/dp/B00A07FR4W
1:16:30 Standard Mineral Resources
1:20:00 Creating the right analysis brackets
1:22:30 Allan’s crystal ball for 2023

Measured #20- Chad Peters

Tue, 31 Jan 2023 12:00:00 +1300

This week Rene talks to Chad Peters, Founder, President, CEO & Director of Ridgeline Minerals. Chad and Rene talk Chad's meteoric rise, being "different" in an industry where everyone claims to be, and marketing to shareholders.

Measured is RSC’s podcast series, with RSC Managing Director and Principal Consultant René Sterk conversing with a range of industry personalities. Expect a range of talking points, many with a technical theme, but also some of our industry friends sharing anecdotes about their career in the mineral exploration and mining sector and thoughts on some of the issues the industry faces.

Please enjoy, and don't forget to follow RSC on all our social media platforms!

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5cudcq7Bgs
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/rsc-...
Instagram: rscmme
TikTok: rsc_tiktok

#measuredpodcast

Timestamps
2:36 Introducing Chad and starting Ridgeline
7:05 A moment of realisation….
9:23 Building a team
16:53 Being "different"
19:05 Taking on unwanted projects
24:03 Dealing with shareholders
29:58 Social media
33:24 Thoughts on the Gold market
36:33 ASX vs TSX
41:22 Mining & sustainability
46:20 Competing with Crypto and other growing industries
49:12 Chad's final thoughts

Measured #19- Nick Tate

Wed, 25 Jan 2023 20:00:00 +1300

Nick Tate is the King of Geology YouTube, with his channel GeologyUpSkill amassing almost 12,000 subscribers and an astonishing 465,000+ views! Rene and Nick discuss Nick's career, how he broke into the YouTube scene and his motivation for sharing his wealth of knowledge.

Measured is RSC’s podcast series, with RSC Managing Director and Principal Consultant René Sterk conversing with a range of industry personalities. Expect a range of talking points, many with a technical theme, but also some of our industry friends sharing anecdotes about their career in the mineral exploration and mining sector and thoughts on some of the issues the industry faces.

Please enjoy, and don't forget to follow RSC on all our social media platforms!

YouTube: @rscyoutube
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/rsc-...
Instagram: rscmme
TikTok: rsc_tiktok

#measuredpodcast

Timestamps

1:30 Introducing Nick
10:45 Exploring in Laos
15:39 20 Rules of Exploration and the Down-Up approach
23:20 Rule 20
31:00 What made Nick pick up the camera
39:23 YouTube goals
44:28 What draws people to his channel
45:55 The Creative Process
57:00 Risks to your brand
59:09 What else is on Nick’s mind?

Measured #18- Tim Sennett & Dr. James Tickner

Tue, 18 Oct 2022 16:00:00 +1300

In a Measured first, René is joined by two guests this week! René chats with Chrysos Corporation Chief Technology Officer Dr James Tickner and Technical Services Team Leader Tim Sennett about the developments and innovations being made at Chrysos, particularly the PhotonAssay.

Measured is RSC’s podcast series, with RSC Managing Director and Principal Consultant René Sterk conversing with a range of industry personalities. Expect a range of talking points, many with a technical theme, but also some of our industry friends sharing anecdotes about their career in the mineral exploration and mining sector and thoughts on some of the issues the industry faces.

Please enjoy, and don't forget to follow RSC on all our social media platforms!

YouTube: https://youtu.be/sYtwtLnm-k8
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/rsc-...
Instagram: rscmme
TikTok: rsc_tiktok

#measuredpodcast

Timestamps
3:08 Introducing Tim
7:20 Introducing James
10:10 What's happening at Chrysos
13:15 Marketing the PhotonAssay
27:20 Training people in the technology and going commercial
33:15 The sampling process - precision & accuracy
44:04 Convincing consultants
47:46 What are people expecting from the data?
50:45 Nigel Brand’s paper: https://www.appliedgeochemists.org/images/Explore/Explore%20Number%20169%20December%202015.pdf
54:30 Encouraging innovation and new technology in the mining industry
1:01:01 The PhotonAssay & JORC
1:05:10 THAT moment of realisation
1:08:20 Sandy's podcast: https://youtu.be/W1PmnPO8mXQ
1:10:40 Environmental Impacts of the PhotonAssay

Measured #17- Stuart Marsters

Tue, 11 Oct 2022 16:00:00 +1300

Stuart Masters is an experienced head in the industry, with enough war stories to fill several books! René and Stuart sit down and talk about the industry, challenges we are facing and innovations being made.

Measured is RSC’s podcast series, with RSC Managing Director and Principal Consultant René Sterk conversing with a range of industry personalities. Expect a range of talking points, many with a technical theme, but also some of our industry friends sharing anecdotes about their career in the mineral exploration and mining sector and thoughts on some of the issues the industry faces.

Please enjoy, and don't forget to follow RSC on all our social media platforms!

Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17VZNuczEE4
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/rsc-...
Instagram: rscmme
TikTok: rsc_tiktok

#measuredpodcast

Timestamps
2:44 Introducing Stuart
6:40 Driving innovation by challenging the status quo
9:45 Auditing
14:30 Report Writing
16:40 Stuart & JORC
20:10 Issues with "Competence" and the growing complexities within the industry
35:12 Stuart's standout companies
38:12 Company Culture
40:40 Stuart & Resource Geology
42:49 Making Interpretations
47:00 Innovations in the industry
49:30 Data interpreting
53:10 Top 3 things we need to wrestle with as an industry

Measured #16- Scott Dunham

Tue, 04 Oct 2022 16:00:00 +1300

A very experienced campaigner in the Resource field, Scott Dunham has a passion for sharing knowledge and opinions with the rest of the Mining and Resource industry. Join Rene and Scott as they talk what needs to change in the industry, Machine Learning, Cancel Culture, and much more.

Measured is RSC’s podcast series, with RSC Managing Director and Principal Consultant René Sterk conversing with a range of industry personalities. Expect a range of talking points, many with a technical theme, but also some of our industry friends sharing anecdotes about their career in the mineral exploration and mining sector and thoughts on some of the issues the industry faces.

Please enjoy, and don't forget to follow RSC on all our social media platforms!

YouTube: https://youtu.be/R-qu8bxPv_Y
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/rsc-...
Instagram: rscmme
TikTok: rsc_tiktok

#measuredpodcast

Timestamps
2:25 Introducing Scott
7:15 Problems Solving & going independent in consulting
11:57 Are the consulting models working?
17:47 Shortages in Resource Geologists and training the modern geo
23:40 Risk mediation
28:10 Cancel Culture in the industry?
37:54 The problem with resource geology
45:31 How to revamp a system
54:48 Where is change coming from?
56:30 The Competent Persons discussion
1:09:54 The risks in rushing changes
1:13:30 Artificial Intelligence and Machine Learning

Measured #15- Deborah Lord

Tue, 27 Sep 2022 16:00:00 +1300

Rene sits down to chat with Deborah Lord, Director & Principal of VRM, specialists in mineral asset valuation. Rene and Deborah go into depth about how ESG affects projects, dealing with transgressions in the industry, and trying to solve issues in the education space.

Measured is RSC’s podcast series, with RSC Managing Director and Principal Consultant René Sterk conversing with a range of industry personalities. Expect a range of talking points, many with a technical theme, but also some of our industry friends sharing anecdotes about their career in the mineral exploration and mining sector and thoughts on some of the issues the industry faces.

Please enjoy, and don't forget to follow RSC on all our social media platforms!

YouTube: https://youtu.be/GhBv7m_aPYw
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/rsc-...
Instagram: rscmme
TikTok: rsc_tiktok

Timestamps
2:31 Introducing Deborah

8:10 VRM

10:30 Deborah and how she got into the valuation space

21:13 How ESG effects projects

29:40 Regulation and Over-Regulation

31:50 Dealing with transgressions: Iso Standards and auditing standards

50:54 Uncertainty & Risk in valuation

54:48 Deborah's thoughts on the education space

#measuredpodcast

Measured #14- Shawn Hood

Wed, 21 Sep 2022 15:00:00 +1200

This week, René is joined by Chief Technology Officer Shawn Hood from GoldSpot Discoveries (recently renamed EarthLabs Inc.). GoldSpot is a leading technology company leveraging artificial intelligence and data science to transform the mineral discovery process and is a key partner of RSC.

GoldSpot is at the forefront of Machine Learning developments in the industry, and Shawn takes the time to discuss this, as well as many of the issues that come with innovation.

Measured is RSC’s podcast series, with RSC Managing Director and Principal Consultant René Sterk conversing with a range of industry personalities. Expect a range of talking points, many with a technical theme, but also some of our industry friends sharing anecdotes about their career in the mineral exploration and mining sector and thoughts on some of the issues the industry faces.

Please enjoy, and don't forget to follow RSC on all our social media platforms!

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=StebHYgVu2A
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/rsc-...
Instagram: rscmme
TikTok: rsc_tiktok

Timestamps
2:26 Introducing Shawn
10:00 Machine Learning: Data problem vs People problem
20:00 Dealing with change in the industry
22:47 GoldSpot: Balancing client service and R&D
30:40 Tools that have worked for GoldSpot (John Carranza’s PREDICTIVE MAPPING OF MINERAL PROSPECTIVITY IN AREAS WITHOUT KNOWN MINERAL DEPOSITS paper- https://www.researchgate.net/publicat...)
40:30 Tools GoldSpot is currently developing
44:40 GoldSpot’s products
49:20 Innovations from a domain perspective
54:10 Anxieties around reporting Machine Learning results

#measuredpodcast

Measured #13- Courtney Pacey

Tue, 13 Sep 2022 16:00:00 +1200

René talks to VM Drilling General Manager Courtney Pacey in this week’s instalment of the #measuredpodcast. Courtney gets into the thick of RC drilling, and what can be done to potentially bridge a few gaps in the understanding of the method between drillers and the rest of us.

Measured is RSC’s podcast series, with RSC Managing Director and Principal Consultant René Sterk conversing with a range of industry personalities. Expect a range of talking points, many with a technical theme, but also some of our industry friends sharing anecdotes about their career in the mineral exploration and mining sector and thoughts on some of the issues the industry faces.

Please enjoy, and don't forget to follow RSC on all our social media platforms!

Measured is RSC’s podcast series, with RSC Managing Director and Principal Consultant René Sterk conversing with a range of industry personalities. Expect a range of talking points, many with a technical theme, but also some of our industry friends sharing anecdotes about their career in the mineral exploration and mining sector and thoughts on some of the issues the industry faces.

Please enjoy, and don't forget to follow RSC on all our social media platforms!

2:24 Introducing Courtney
4:53 Working for VM Drilling
7:10 Where Diggers & Dealers see the industry heading
8:50 VM and drilling for gold
10:00 How Courtney got to VM Drilling
13:00 VM Drilling Recruitment
15:30 The future of VM Drilling
16:56 Rigs & Preventative Maintenance
20:03 What clients want in a contract
31:00 The Driller/Client relationship
38:40 Shifts in sampling tool demand
42:20 Sample quality
44:27 Shroud tolerance
47:55 What a geologist should look out for in drilling
50:34 What’s next for Courtney

YouTube: https://youtu.be/ZtsTCcm1uM0
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/rsc-...
Instagram: rscmme
TikTok: rsc_tiktok

Measured #12- Dr Sandra Occhipinti

Tue, 06 Sep 2022 16:00:00 +1200

This week, Rene talks with Dr Sandra Occhipinti. Sandra is the Research Director at CSIRO (The Commonwealth Scientific and Industrial Research Organisation), the home of Australia’s Scientific research. In this talk, Sandra provides expert analysis on the developments in the industry, and talks about some of the great innovations coming out of her team.

Measured is RSC’s podcast series, with RSC Managing Director and Principal Consultant René Sterk conversing with a range of industry personalities. Expect a range of talking points, many with a technical theme, but also some of our industry friends sharing anecdotes about their career in the mineral exploration and mining sector and thoughts on some of the issues the industry faces.

Please enjoy, and don't forget to follow RSC on all our social media platforms!

2:18 introducing Sandra
10:00 CSIRO
16:42 Sandra on CSIRO’s research
25:01 Conservatism within the industry- encouraging people to adapt to the new technology
29:28 CSIRO & Recruitment
35:10 Innovation in the industry
44:20 The developments we should be taking more notice of
53:40 Learning from failure

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1PmnPO8mXQ&t=601s
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/rsc-...
Instagram: rscmme
TikTok: rsc_tiktok

#measuredpodcast

Measured #11- Dr Jon Hronsky

Wed, 31 Aug 2022 16:00:00 +1200

"I don't want any bosses, I don't want any employees"

Rene has known this week's guest, Dr Jon Hronsky, for a while now. Jon joins Rene to talk company culture, being self-employed, ore-forming processes and much more!

Measured is RSC’s podcast series, with RSC Managing Director and Principal Consultant René Sterk conversing with a range of industry personalities. Expect a range of talking points, many with a technical theme, but also some of our industry friends sharing anecdotes about their career in the mineral exploration and mining sector and thoughts on some of the issues the industry faces.

Please enjoy, and don't forget to follow RSC on all our social media platforms!

2:41 Introducing Jon
13:10 Company culture
17:30 Jon’s advisory work
20:30 Benefits of being self-employed
22:38 Use of Machine Learning
27:25 The Art and Science of Exploration Targeting
47:40 Jon’s Senior Exploration Management course (https://www.wesminllc.com/wms-sponsored-events/)
54:57 Geologists & The Future Workforce
1:02:15 Making Geoscience exciting (https://www.ausimm.com/news-and-media/community-news/geoscience-society-april-2022-newsletter/)
1:03:10 Ore-forming processes
1:07:40 Why Jon wants to see more people working in geoscience research (https://research-repository.uwa.edu.au/en/publications/the-mineral-system-concept-the-key-to-exploration-targeting)

Video: https://youtu.be/AqO6uaJMOlw
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/rsc-...
Instagram: rscmme
TikTok: rsc_tiktok

Measured #10- Dr Brett Davis

Wed, 24 Aug 2022 16:00:00 +1200

"Miserable conditions, and I loved it!"

This week Rene converses with Olinda Gold Principal Structural Geologist Dr Brett Davis. Brett brings some real insight to this instalment of the #measuredpodcast, from what makes a good structural geologist, to the tough puzzles, to dealing with failure. It was a pleasure to have Brett so enjoy and subscribe!

Measured is RSC’s podcast series, with RSC Managing Director and Principal Consultant René Sterk conversing with a range of industry personalities. Expect a range of talking points, many with a technical theme, but also some of our industry friends sharing anecdotes about their career in the mineral exploration and mining sector and thoughts on some of the issues the industry faces.

Please enjoy, and don't forget to follow RSC on all our social media platforms!

| 0:54 | Introducing Brett
| 3:18 | Why understanding structural geology makes a difference to a project
| 9:52 | What makes a good structural geologist?
| 17:10 | Working with different clients
| 19:58 | The tough puzzles
| 22:28 | Geology training
| 0:24:10 | The global education space
| 0:27:50 | Brett on the Nexus programme
| 0:30:58 | Virtual Core Logging; Structural geology & technology
| 0:37:00 | LinkedIn
| 0:38:45 | Old school vs new school technology
| 0:41:40 | Eritrea
| 0:46:43 | Dealing with failures
| 0:55:01 | Ego in the industry

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCzK-OtNpJdGfJsj9_5yPpIQ/videos
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/rsc-...
Instagram: rscmme
TikTok: rsc_tiktok

Measured #9- Todd Houlahan

Wed, 17 Aug 2022 16:00:00 +1200

This week: Everything Portable XRF!

In this instalment of the #measuredpodcast, Olympus IMS Director of International Mining Todd Houlahan comes on to talk pXRF, the future of mining technology, and much more!

Measured is RSC’s podcast series, with RSC Managing Director and Principal Consultant René Sterk conversing with a range of industry personalities. Expect a range of talking points, many with a technical theme, but also some of our industry friends sharing anecdotes about their career in the mineral exploration and mining sector and thoughts on some of the issues the industry faces.

Please enjoy, and don't forget to follow RSC on all our social media platforms!

Timestamps
1:30 Todd & Rene's journeys into pXRF
6:31 Bit of history: pXRF's acceptance in the mining industry over the years
17:15 Building your own pXRF? Keeping technology in vogue.
23:59 Is there more ground to gain on precision and accuracy?
0:30:20 Olympus' point of difference, R&D, and testimonials.
0:36:28 pXRF value proposition.
0:40:30 pXRF vs Labs: Why isn't everyone adopting XRF?
0:44:00 Moving forward with new technology.
0:47:20 Innovation & Collaboration: the future of XRF (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lwmMgWYdeVc).

0:57:03 Talks

James Buskard: https://www.pdac.ca/convention/programming/exploration-insights/sessions/exploration-insights/exploration-insights-online

Ayesha Ahmed: https://www.pdac.ca/convention/programming/exploration-insights/sessions/exploration-insights/exploration-insights-online

0:58:00 The power of multi-element data in down-stream workflows such as resource estimation
1:03:16 pXRF & JORC

Additional materials:
Camiro pXRF Study
https://www.appliedgeochemists.org/images/stories/XRF/pXRF Report Phase I Report rev Oct 2013.pdf
https://www.appliedgeochemists.org/images/stories/XRF/pXRF2-Report_Dec_29_2013.pdf

Ayesha Ahmed Copper Fertility
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/332165570_Assessing_copper_fertility_of_intrusive_rocks_using_field_portable_X-Ray_fluorescence_pXRF_data

Gazley And Fisher – Resolution of geochemical and lithostratigraphic complexity: A workflow for application of portable X-ray fluorescence to mineral exploration
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/260037684_Resolution_of_geochemical_and_lithostratigraphic_complexity_A_workflow_for_application_of_portable_X-ray_fluorescence_to_mineral_exploration

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Measured #8- Dr Richard Lilly

Wed, 10 Aug 2022 16:00:00 +1200

"A real melting pot of geological ideas"

Measured is RSC’s podcast series, with RSC Managing Director and Principal Consultant René Sterk conversing with a range of industry personalities. Expect a range of talking points, many with a technical theme, but also some of our industry friends sharing anecdotes about their career in the mineral exploration and mining sector and thoughts on some of the issues the industry faces.

In today’s conversation, René talks to Dr Richard Lilly, creator of the National Exploration Undercover School (NExUS) programme, administrated through the University of Adelaide. They discuss Richard's work with NExUS, the challenges in educating young people about the importance of geology and the extractive industry, and the general reshaping of the global education environment as a whole.

Please enjoy, and don't forget to follow RSC on all our social media platforms!

Timestamps:
1:04 Introducing Richard
5:55 What has and hasn't changed in Universities over the years (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-4x-hIKVYg)
13:01 The Online learning revolution and filling the geoscience education gaps
19:22 Nexus
27:45 Upscaling, funding
36:35 Future of Nexus
41:00 Mining Industry Advocacy: rewards and challenges
46:18 Reshaping geology education

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Measured #7- Dr Jacqui Coombes

Wed, 03 Aug 2022 16:00:00 +1200

"Amira: The Secret Sauce of Collaboration”

Measured is RSC’s brand-new podcast series, with RSC Managing Director and Principal Consultant René Sterk conversing with a range of industry personalities. Expect a range of talking points, many with a technical theme, but also some of our industry friends sharing anecdotes about their career in the mineral exploration and mining sector and thoughts on some of the issues the industry faces.

René Sterk and Jacqui Coombes discuss several hot-button topics at the minute in the latest episode of the #measuredpodcast. From trying to work out where Jacqui finds the time, to travel advice, this is not one to miss!

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Timestamps

| 1:17 | Jacqui's career background
| 6:45 | Jacqui: How DO you find the time?
| 10:25 | Amira
| 14:05 | Research and Development: Should we do more?
| 17:18 | Juggling the interests of Amira members
| 22:06 | A recession caused by supply issues
| 28:17 | What Amira is working on
| 32:15 | Jacqui's books https://www.amazon.com/ID-like-MIK-Estimation-Techniques-ebook/dp/B01HRQ7XN6
| 37:50 | Would you return to teaching?
| 39:10 | Lessons learnt in our industry journeys
| 44:55 | Some travel advice!

Measured #6- Bruce Harvey

Wed, 27 Jul 2022 16:00:00 +1200

"Less than half of them are ever going to be developed, for social reasons"

Measured is RSC’s brand-new podcast series, with RSC Managing Director and Principal Consultant René Sterk conversing with a range of industry personalities. Expect a range of talking points, many with a technical theme, but also some of our industry friends sharing anecdotes about their career in the mineral exploration and mining sector and thoughts on some of the issues the industry faces.

In the 6th instalment of the #measuredpodcast, René is joined by resolution88 Director & Principal, Bruce Harvey. René and Bruce discuss what is happening with ESG in the mining industry, how ESG education works, and where mining stands in the socio-political landscape.

Youtube: https://youtu.be/x6XIxS-dwl8
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Timestamps

0:35 A bit about Bruce
4:55 What is ESG?
10:05 The ESG Scorecard
13:54 Where the Scorecard numbers come from
16:00 Are we overcorrecting?
21:20 The importance of competent people in reporting & ESG
27:37 AusIMM ESG course
29:56 What are we not doing in the ESG space?
32:39 Who is going to fill the education gaps?
38:29 Is education moving in the right direction?
46:29 Consultants and ESG
50:25 Mining in the current political landscape
54:47 ESG in Resource Estimation
57:15 Connecting with local communities on projects

Measured #5- Mike Stewart

Wed, 20 Jul 2022 16:00:00 +1200

"Geometry modelling is not geology modelling"

Mike Stewart is a Technical Domain Expert for Seequent, creators of Leapfrog software. In this edition of the #measuredpodcast, René sits down with Mike to discuss what resource geologists should know about the software-side of the equation. They dispel some common myths around geo modelling, and banter about what the future of resource modelling looks like.

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Timestamps

0:41 Introduction and Mike's career & background
9:50 Working with Seequent
10:58 From Mapping to Consulting to Software
14:00 Workflows, Recipes and Best practices
16:43 Domaining
21:10 Machine Learning geological modelling: good or bad?
24:30 Paper and Leapfrog discussion
36:45 Learning how to Domain
40:19 Domaining disasters
44:10 Leapfrog Edge and the challenges of programming
51:40 Geology and education

Measured #4- Haydon Mort

Wed, 13 Jul 2022 16:00:00 +1200

"The way we've been communicating so far has been targeting a very narrow demographic"

Measured is RSC’s brand-new podcast series, with RSC Managing Director and Principal Consultant René Sterk conversing with a range of industry personalities. Expect a range of talking points, many with a technical theme, but also some of our industry friends sharing anecdotes about their career in the mineral exploration and mining sector and thoughts on some of the issues the industry faces.

In this edition of the #measuredpodcast, René sits down with Geologize CEO & Director Dr Haydon Mort. René and Haydon discuss the disconnect between the industry and younger geologists, using empathy in communication, and Haydon's course.

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Timestamps:
0:34 Haydon's career & background
3:58 Why geologists are not connecting with the younger generation
6:55 What needs to change in the system
9:00 The mine and the brain
13:24 Using empathy in communication
16:34 Good and bad examples of ways to communicate what we do as miners
19:16 Haydon's course
22:22 How do we centralise the green debate?
27:09 Do we actually have any power to change course or will the pendulum swing regardless?
30:39 Haydon's course: https://training.geologize.org/courses/live

Measured #3- Steve Hunt

Wed, 06 Jul 2022 16:00:00 +1200

"You don't just casually become a competent person"

Measured is RSC’s brand-new podcast series, with RSC Managing Director and Principal Consultant René Sterk conversing with a range of industry personalities. Expect a range of talking points, many with a technical theme, but also some of our industry friends sharing anecdotes about their career in the mineral exploration and mining sector and thoughts on some of the issues the industry faces.

René talks with JORC Committee Chair Steve Hunt in this week's edition of the #measuredpodcast. In this discussion, René and Steve talk about some of the anticipated changes in JORC, and cover the Competent Person debate.

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Timestamps
0:50 Introducing Steve and talking about his trip
2:20 Steve's background- how did he get into JORC?
4:59 Difference between what the corporate and consulting worlds do with JORC
7:03 How the JORC committee is selected
11:30 Reviewing the JORC system
13:10 Why the JORC code needs to be revised
15:50 The ESG space and the risks of over correcting
22:30 How are we going to weave the concepts of these contributing experts into JORC reporting?
0:27:29 Do we need to change the Competent Person structure?
0:31:23 Better checks and balances for QC
0:37:40 Singling out Competent Persons
0:40:00 Complaints review process
0:48:50 Wanting change and wanting to change
0:51:15 JORC branding and reputation
0:54:27 What even is a JORC report
0:59:31 Hybrid solution to public reports?
1:02:41 addressing the issues with RPEE
1:05:30 Transparency and holding Competent Persons accountable
1:08:14 What next for Steve?

Measured #2- Dr Geoff Lyman

Thu, 30 Jun 2022 12:00:00 +1200

"I've taken Gy's Sampling Theory further... and finished it off"

Measured is RSC’s brand-new podcast series, with RSC Managing Director and Principal Consultant René Sterk conversing with a range of industry personalities. Expect a range of talking points, many with a technical theme, but also some of our industry friends sharing anecdotes about their career in the mineral exploration and mining sector and thoughts on some of the issues the industry faces.

This week René chats to Dr Geoff Lyman, author of "Theory and Practice of Particulate Sampling". Geoff and René discuss Geoff's background, Gy's Sampling Theory, the role of sampling conferences in 2022, and a wide array of other topics.

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Timestamps
1:20 Geoff's Background - How did he get into "sampling"?
4:15 Mathematics and Gy
8:33 If sampling has been "solved", then why do we still need sampling conferences?
12:01 How to demonstrate cost savings by changing sampling approach
16:50 Data Quality Objectives & The Good ol' Fit-for-Purpose: How do we quantify Quality?
23:31 The Gy Sampling Club: an Echo Chamber?
24:18 Heterogeneity Studies
29::48 Link to Dick Minnitt's paper (http://saimm.org.za/Journal/v107n08p513.pdf)
32:46 Simulations & Sampling Equipment
36:05 Stop-belt sampling
37:39 Bench-top rotary sample dividers
44:34 Major areas of future change?

Measured #1- Erik Ronald

Tue, 21 Jun 2022 15:00:00 +1200

What is it like working as a consultant? Listen to my conversation with Erik Ronald, principal consultant with SRK, where we cover things like: our responsibilities as consultants, the current regulatory regime and the discussions around competence, differences in how we classify mineral resources, communicating risks in resource models, how to learn resource estimation, learning from mistakes, and we even have a sneaky stab at Mo Shrivastava’s recent posts on publicly reporting grade x width. Hope you enjoy!

Timestamps
1:27 Introducing Erik
8:50 "Drinking from a firehose" - working as a consultant
12:57 Our responsibilities as consultants
14:12 The regulatory regime, competence, morality, ethics, peer review
21:30 Overregulation? NI43-101 vs JORC
25:00 It's a reporting code, non-prescriptive
30:40 Classification, difference in application between jurisdictions, the "Inferred + Category", peer review
49:28 Education: what even is "best practice"?
56:58 Good books to read
1:03:15 Reporting length x grade in exploration drilling?