By Land Podcast Thu, 08 Oct 2026 12:37:42 -0700 https://byland.co/by-land-podcast en © 2026 The By Land Podcast yes Support this Podcast f2943ca9-a07a-593b-911c-18c6141a3eb7 Emory Wanger episodic false This podcast is about learning how to have better backcountry experiences and understanding why spending time outside matters in the first place.

I have conversations with people from diverse outdoor backgrounds to learn from them and hear their personal stories. I cover everything from backpacking, hiking, hunting, conservation, and outdoor skills to the broader role the outdoors can play in our health, perspective, and everyday lives.

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-Emory, By Land


]]> Buzzsprout (https://www.buzzsprout.com) backpacking, hiking, thru-hiking, nature, wilderness, camping, adventure, outside, camping, wild camping, hunting Emory Wanger https://storage.buzzsprout.com/zgvhpmnzpida9or2wo9mgeo5sqx9?.jpg By Land Podcast https://byland.co/by-land-podcast Emory Wanger #180 The Frontier Within and Finding Your Way Back with Mike Martin #180 The Frontier Within and Finding Your Way Back with Mike Martin This episode isn't what you think it is, and it wasn't what I expected when I booked Mike for an interview. I expected a chat about Daniel Boone and how his life’s story inspired Mike to get outdoors, and while that’s kind of what happened, it’s not exactly that straightforward.

Mike is the author of The Honest Wilderness: Finding Daniel Boone and the Frontier Within, but his connection to Daniel Boone started during one of the hardest periods of his life. After his life fell apart, Mike began experimenting with journaling, meditation, and spending intentional time outside. Somewhere along the way, Daniel Boone kept showing up. What started as a simple curiosity became a new way of analyzing his own life.

We talk about using people from history as mirrors, why journaling can help us organize the noise inside our heads, what meditation can actually look like for someone who doesn't think of themselves as a meditation person, and why simply being quiet has become so difficult.

The conversation eventually turns toward a question I've been thinking about a lot lately: What is actually happening to us when we spend time outside?

Maybe the outdoors isn't just a place to recreate. Maybe it's a place where the noise drops away enough for us to hear ourselves again (if you let it).

This conversation is about getting lost, finding your way back, paying attention, and learning to trust the internal compass you've been building your entire life

Key Takeaways

  • Journaling doesn't need to be complicated. Sometimes simply putting thoughts onto paper creates enough space to understand what's happening inside your head.
  • Meditation can look like sitting quietly, walking slowly, paying attention, or simply allowing yourself to stop filling every moment with stimulation.
  • History can become a mirror. Mike used Daniel Boone's experiences with loss, uncertainty, failure, and forward movement to better understand his own life.
  • Spending time outside can create the quiet necessary to hear your own thoughts and reconnect with what Mike describes as an internal compass.
  • Progress doesn't mean never slipping back into old patterns. Sometimes slipping simply means you're still practicing.

Show Notes

  • Mike Martin's Story: Mike shares how a period of personal loss eventually introduced him to Stoicism, journaling, meditation, and a completely different relationship with the outdoors.
  • Daniel Boone as a Mirror: What started as an interest in Daniel Boone became something much more personal. Mike began visiting historical locations, reading biographies, studying maps, and asking what Boone's experiences could teach him about navigating his own life.
  • Finding the Internal Compass: We explore Mike's idea that our experiences slowly build an internal compass. When life becomes confusing, sometimes the answer isn't adding more information but becoming quiet enough to hear what is already there.
  • The Modern Wilderness of Overstimulation: Our phones, schedules, responsibilities, entertainment, and constant availability create an incredible amount of noise. We discuss whether one of the great challenges of modern life is simply losing the ability to sit quietly with ourselves.
  • Journaling as a Practice: Journaling doesn't require pages of polished writing. Mike started with scattered words and thoughts. Over time, the practice helped him organize what was happening internally and recognize patterns in how he talked to himself.
  • Meditation Without the Stereotypes: Meditation doesn't have to look a certain way. Mike discusses walking meditation, guided meditation, sitting quietly outside, and using natural objects and processes as prompts for thinking through our own lives.
  • Using Nature as a Mirror: A fallen tree, changing seasons, decay, growth, and regeneration can become ways of thinking through experiences in our own lives. Not because nature is giving us instructions, but because slowing down enough to observe it gives us something tangible to think about.
  • Why Does Being Outside Feel Different?: We explore one of the questions I'm increasingly interested in: why does spending time outside seem to change the way we feel and think? Maybe part of the answer is participation. In a natural environment, we're stepping back into a living system rather than observing life from behind a screen.
  • Forget the Metrics for Five Minutes: Not every experience needs to produce something measurable. Sometimes getting outside can be as simple as walking through the front door, sitting somewhere quiet, and paying attention.
  • The Outdoors Scales With You: You don't need a wilderness expedition to experience the outdoors. It might be a backyard, a neighborhood walk, a local trail, or a multi-day backcountry trip. The invitation is the same.
  • Boone Trace: Mike also shares his developing plans to explore and hike Boone Trace, the historic route associated with Daniel Boone's movement into Kentucky.

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]]> This episode isn't what you think it is, and it wasn't what I expected when I booked Mike for an interview. I expected a chat about Daniel Boone and how his life’s story inspired Mike to get outdoors, and while that’s kind of what happened, it’s not exactly that straightforward.

Mike is the author of The Honest Wilderness: Finding Daniel Boone and the Frontier Within, but his connection to Daniel Boone started during one of the hardest periods of his life. After his life fell apart, Mike began experimenting with journaling, meditation, and spending intentional time outside. Somewhere along the way, Daniel Boone kept showing up. What started as a simple curiosity became a new way of analyzing his own life.

We talk about using people from history as mirrors, why journaling can help us organize the noise inside our heads, what meditation can actually look like for someone who doesn't think of themselves as a meditation person, and why simply being quiet has become so difficult.

The conversation eventually turns toward a question I've been thinking about a lot lately: What is actually happening to us when we spend time outside?

Maybe the outdoors isn't just a place to recreate. Maybe it's a place where the noise drops away enough for us to hear ourselves again (if you let it).

This conversation is about getting lost, finding your way back, paying attention, and learning to trust the internal compass you've been building your entire life

Key Takeaways

  • Journaling doesn't need to be complicated. Sometimes simply putting thoughts onto paper creates enough space to understand what's happening inside your head.
  • Meditation can look like sitting quietly, walking slowly, paying attention, or simply allowing yourself to stop filling every moment with stimulation.
  • History can become a mirror. Mike used Daniel Boone's experiences with loss, uncertainty, failure, and forward movement to better understand his own life.
  • Spending time outside can create the quiet necessary to hear your own thoughts and reconnect with what Mike describes as an internal compass.
  • Progress doesn't mean never slipping back into old patterns. Sometimes slipping simply means you're still practicing.

Show Notes

  • Mike Martin's Story: Mike shares how a period of personal loss eventually introduced him to Stoicism, journaling, meditation, and a completely different relationship with the outdoors.
  • Daniel Boone as a Mirror: What started as an interest in Daniel Boone became something much more personal. Mike began visiting historical locations, reading biographies, studying maps, and asking what Boone's experiences could teach him about navigating his own life.
  • Finding the Internal Compass: We explore Mike's idea that our experiences slowly build an internal compass. When life becomes confusing, sometimes the answer isn't adding more information but becoming quiet enough to hear what is already there.
  • The Modern Wilderness of Overstimulation: Our phones, schedules, responsibilities, entertainment, and constant availability create an incredible amount of noise. We discuss whether one of the great challenges of modern life is simply losing the ability to sit quietly with ourselves.
  • Journaling as a Practice: Journaling doesn't require pages of polished writing. Mike started with scattered words and thoughts. Over time, the practice helped him organize what was happening internally and recognize patterns in how he talked to himself.
  • Meditation Without the Stereotypes: Meditation doesn't have to look a certain way. Mike discusses walking meditation, guided meditation, sitting quietly outside, and using natural objects and processes as prompts for thinking through our own lives.
  • Using Nature as a Mirror: A fallen tree, changing seasons, decay, growth, and regeneration can become ways of thinking through experiences in our own lives. Not because nature is giving us instructions, but because slowing down enough to observe it gives us something tangible to think about.
  • Why Does Being Outside Feel Different?: We explore one of the questions I'm increasingly interested in: why does spending time outside seem to change the way we feel and think? Maybe part of the answer is participation. In a natural environment, we're stepping back into a living system rather than observing life from behind a screen.
  • Forget the Metrics for Five Minutes: Not every experience needs to produce something measurable. Sometimes getting outside can be as simple as walking through the front door, sitting somewhere quiet, and paying attention.
  • The Outdoors Scales With You: You don't need a wilderness expedition to experience the outdoors. It might be a backyard, a neighborhood walk, a local trail, or a multi-day backcountry trip. The invitation is the same.
  • Boone Trace: Mike also shares his developing plans to explore and hike Boone Trace, the historic route associated with Daniel Boone's movement into Kentucky.

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]]> Buzzsprout-19818385 Fri, 18 Sep 2026 08:00:00 -0700 5187 180 full false #179 Back to the Mountains with Tom French #179 Back to the Mountains with Tom French In this episode, I sit down with Tom French, author of The Gap Years: Climbing, Skiing, and the Journey Back, to talk about what happens when we step away from the expected path and make room for a different kind of experience.

Tom spent his pre-career years climbing, ski racing, and traveling around the world before leaving that life behind to build a career, get married, and raise a family. When he retired at 60, and before moving into the next stage of life, he decided to return to the mountains to see whether the interests that had shaped him as a young man still held meaning decades later.

As expected, our conversation became about much more than mountaineering. We talked about the seasons of life, accepting that parenthood and work will temporarily change how we experience the outdoors, and trusting that the mountains will still be there when we are ready to get back to them. Tom also explains why a gap year is not just time off, but a “conscious interlude”—an opportunity to step outside the normal flow of life and have experiences that may shape whatever comes next.

We also dive into the less visible sides of climbing: the long hours spent waiting inside a tent, the emotional discipline required to manage uncertainty, and the balance between physical ability, risk management, and mental resilience. Tom shares what it was like to return to Everest after his first attempt was cut short, climb Cholatse with his daughter, and rediscover a part of himself that had never completely disappeared.

This is a conversation about adventure, but it is also about identity, aging, parenting, and giving ourselves permission to return to the parts of life that continue to matter to us.


Key Takeaways: 

  • The interests and hobbies we set aside during demanding seasons of life are waiting when we have the space to return.
  • A meaningful gap year is not about doing nothing; it is a conscious interlude filled with experiences that everyday life may not allow.
  • Success in mountaineering depends on more than physical strength. It also requires risk management and emotional discipline.
  • Parents can give their children an important gift by allowing them room to choose their own path rather than automatically following the expected one.
  • Returning to an old passion later in life can offer more than nostalgia; it can reveal what continues to provide meaning and direction.


Chapters and Links: 

  • Growing up inside an outdoor store
  • Choosing a different path from his father
  • Why some interests move into the background
  • The mountains will still be there
  • Finding room to think again
  • The untold reality of expedition life
  • The three parts of successful mountaineering
  • What a gap year is really for
  • Giving children permission to choose
  • Returning to the mountains at 60
  • Climbing Cholatse with his daughter
  • Supporting the Himalayan Trust
  • Tom's Book: https://amzn.to/3QbYyO3
  • https://tomfrenchauthor.com/
  • https://himalayantrust.org/

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]]> In this episode, I sit down with Tom French, author of The Gap Years: Climbing, Skiing, and the Journey Back, to talk about what happens when we step away from the expected path and make room for a different kind of experience.

Tom spent his pre-career years climbing, ski racing, and traveling around the world before leaving that life behind to build a career, get married, and raise a family. When he retired at 60, and before moving into the next stage of life, he decided to return to the mountains to see whether the interests that had shaped him as a young man still held meaning decades later.

As expected, our conversation became about much more than mountaineering. We talked about the seasons of life, accepting that parenthood and work will temporarily change how we experience the outdoors, and trusting that the mountains will still be there when we are ready to get back to them. Tom also explains why a gap year is not just time off, but a “conscious interlude”—an opportunity to step outside the normal flow of life and have experiences that may shape whatever comes next.

We also dive into the less visible sides of climbing: the long hours spent waiting inside a tent, the emotional discipline required to manage uncertainty, and the balance between physical ability, risk management, and mental resilience. Tom shares what it was like to return to Everest after his first attempt was cut short, climb Cholatse with his daughter, and rediscover a part of himself that had never completely disappeared.

This is a conversation about adventure, but it is also about identity, aging, parenting, and giving ourselves permission to return to the parts of life that continue to matter to us.


Key Takeaways: 

  • The interests and hobbies we set aside during demanding seasons of life are waiting when we have the space to return.
  • A meaningful gap year is not about doing nothing; it is a conscious interlude filled with experiences that everyday life may not allow.
  • Success in mountaineering depends on more than physical strength. It also requires risk management and emotional discipline.
  • Parents can give their children an important gift by allowing them room to choose their own path rather than automatically following the expected one.
  • Returning to an old passion later in life can offer more than nostalgia; it can reveal what continues to provide meaning and direction.


Chapters and Links: 

  • Growing up inside an outdoor store
  • Choosing a different path from his father
  • Why some interests move into the background
  • The mountains will still be there
  • Finding room to think again
  • The untold reality of expedition life
  • The three parts of successful mountaineering
  • What a gap year is really for
  • Giving children permission to choose
  • Returning to the mountains at 60
  • Climbing Cholatse with his daughter
  • Supporting the Himalayan Trust
  • Tom's Book: https://amzn.to/3QbYyO3
  • https://tomfrenchauthor.com/
  • https://himalayantrust.org/

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]]> Buzzsprout-19643506 Thu, 13 Aug 2026 21:00:00 -0700 5348 179 full false #178 Rethinking How We Share Adventures with Nina Banducci of Polarsteps #178 Rethinking How We Share Adventures with Nina Banducci of Polarsteps Nina Banducci from Polarsteps joins the podcast to talk about something I’ve been thinking a lot about lately; how we document our lives and why social media doesn’t always feel like the right way to do it.

We discuss the trending shift away from performative platforms like Instagram and why more people are craving something more personal and meaningful when it comes to capturing their life experiences. Nina shares her background as an outdoor guide and how that led her to Polarsteps, a travel app built around memory, not attention.

We also dive into the thru-hiking culture on the Appalachian Trail, what makes that community so unique, and why experiences like that strip you down to who you really are. 

Throughout the episode, we talk about travel, discomfort, growth, and why the best moments aren’t always the ones you post. If you’ve ever questioned why you’re sharing your adventures, or who you’re sharing them for, this episode is right up your ally.


Key Takeaways:

  • Social media has shifted from connection to performance, changing how we experience travel
  • Real adventure includes discomfort, mistakes, and unpredictability, not just highlight moments
  • Tools like Polarsteps are emerging to prioritize personal memory over public validation
  • Thru-hiking culture creates a rare environment of equality, authenticity, and community
  • Growth happens when you step into the unknown, not when everything goes perfectly


Chapters/Show Notes: 

  • Introduction to Polarsteps
  • Nina’s Background: From Idaho to Outdoor Guiding and Travel
  • The River Community and Earning Your Place Outdoors
  • The Problem with Social Media and Performative Sharing
  • What Polarsteps Is and Why It Exists
  • Travel as a Tool for Growth and Discomfort
  • The Reality of Thru-Hiking and Trail Culture
  • Appalachian Trail Community and Hostel Life
  • Why Brands Must Earn Trust in the Outdoor Space
  • How Polarsteps Is Entering the U.S. Market
  • The Future of Travel, Memory, and Storytelling
  • www.polarsteps.com

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]]> Nina Banducci from Polarsteps joins the podcast to talk about something I’ve been thinking a lot about lately; how we document our lives and why social media doesn’t always feel like the right way to do it.

We discuss the trending shift away from performative platforms like Instagram and why more people are craving something more personal and meaningful when it comes to capturing their life experiences. Nina shares her background as an outdoor guide and how that led her to Polarsteps, a travel app built around memory, not attention.

We also dive into the thru-hiking culture on the Appalachian Trail, what makes that community so unique, and why experiences like that strip you down to who you really are. 

Throughout the episode, we talk about travel, discomfort, growth, and why the best moments aren’t always the ones you post. If you’ve ever questioned why you’re sharing your adventures, or who you’re sharing them for, this episode is right up your ally.


Key Takeaways:

  • Social media has shifted from connection to performance, changing how we experience travel
  • Real adventure includes discomfort, mistakes, and unpredictability, not just highlight moments
  • Tools like Polarsteps are emerging to prioritize personal memory over public validation
  • Thru-hiking culture creates a rare environment of equality, authenticity, and community
  • Growth happens when you step into the unknown, not when everything goes perfectly


Chapters/Show Notes: 

  • Introduction to Polarsteps
  • Nina’s Background: From Idaho to Outdoor Guiding and Travel
  • The River Community and Earning Your Place Outdoors
  • The Problem with Social Media and Performative Sharing
  • What Polarsteps Is and Why It Exists
  • Travel as a Tool for Growth and Discomfort
  • The Reality of Thru-Hiking and Trail Culture
  • Appalachian Trail Community and Hostel Life
  • Why Brands Must Earn Trust in the Outdoor Space
  • How Polarsteps Is Entering the U.S. Market
  • The Future of Travel, Memory, and Storytelling
  • www.polarsteps.com

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]]> Buzzsprout-19027652 Mon, 18 May 2026 09:00:00 -0700 5215 178 full false #177 Turning Setbacks Into Summits with Tia Banks #177 Turning Setbacks Into Summits with Tia Banks In this episode, I sit down with Tia Banks, a former professional athlete turned mountaineer, resilience expert, and motivational speaker. Tia’s journey is one of resilience, self-discovery, and mental toughness, and in our conversation, she shares how learning to manage setbacks helped her transition into a new passion. 

From growing up in Nebraska to inspiring thousands through her speaking tour, her story is proof that adversity can be a stepping stone to something greater.  Tia explains that a "setback is the setup."


Key Takeaways:

  • The power of self-talk – What we tell ourselves matters in the hardest moments.
  • Resilience is built, not given – Hardship creates opportunities for personal growth.
  • The outdoors is transformative – Mountains provide a unique space for reflection and challenge.
  • Community is essential – Finding support in the hardest moments can make all the difference.


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]]> In this episode, I sit down with Tia Banks, a former professional athlete turned mountaineer, resilience expert, and motivational speaker. Tia’s journey is one of resilience, self-discovery, and mental toughness, and in our conversation, she shares how learning to manage setbacks helped her transition into a new passion. 

From growing up in Nebraska to inspiring thousands through her speaking tour, her story is proof that adversity can be a stepping stone to something greater.  Tia explains that a "setback is the setup."


Key Takeaways:

  • The power of self-talk – What we tell ourselves matters in the hardest moments.
  • Resilience is built, not given – Hardship creates opportunities for personal growth.
  • The outdoors is transformative – Mountains provide a unique space for reflection and challenge.
  • Community is essential – Finding support in the hardest moments can make all the difference.


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]]> Buzzsprout-16733111 Thu, 08 May 2025 05:00:00 -0700 3892 177 full false #176 Fastpacking: How To Cover More Ground In Less Time with Tayson Whittaker #176 Fastpacking: How To Cover More Ground In Less Time with Tayson Whittaker In this episode, I sit down with Tayson Whittaker, founder of Outdoor Vitals, to dive deep into fastpacking—what it is, why it works when time is tight, and how to cover more ground in less time. Whether you’re a backpacker looking to move faster and lighter, or someone trying to maximize limited time on the trail, this episode is packed with tons of insights on how to make fastpacking a practical tool in your outdoor adventures.

Tayson shares his personal fastpacking strategies, including gear, hydration and nutrition planning, and how to structure your days for big miles without burnout. We also get into the evolution of Outdoor Vitals gear and how it’s designed with fastpackers and minimalist adventurers in mind.

If you’ve been curious about how fastpacking can fit into your life—or you just want to find smarter ways to adventure farther and faster—this episode is for you.


Key Takeaways:

  • Fastpacking is a tool to cover more ground in less time, opening up bigger adventures even when life is busy.
  • Dialing in your gear makes fastpacking possible—cut the weight without sacrificing comfort or safety.
  • Hydration and electrolytes are mission-critical, especially for high-mileage days. Don't underestimate your salt needs.
  • Nutrition strategy is everything—consistent fueling keeps your energy steady and prevents the dreaded calorie wall.
  • Planning your day around effort, rest, and fueling is the secret to consistent, high-mileage success.


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]]> In this episode, I sit down with Tayson Whittaker, founder of Outdoor Vitals, to dive deep into fastpacking—what it is, why it works when time is tight, and how to cover more ground in less time. Whether you’re a backpacker looking to move faster and lighter, or someone trying to maximize limited time on the trail, this episode is packed with tons of insights on how to make fastpacking a practical tool in your outdoor adventures.

Tayson shares his personal fastpacking strategies, including gear, hydration and nutrition planning, and how to structure your days for big miles without burnout. We also get into the evolution of Outdoor Vitals gear and how it’s designed with fastpackers and minimalist adventurers in mind.

If you’ve been curious about how fastpacking can fit into your life—or you just want to find smarter ways to adventure farther and faster—this episode is for you.


Key Takeaways:

  • Fastpacking is a tool to cover more ground in less time, opening up bigger adventures even when life is busy.
  • Dialing in your gear makes fastpacking possible—cut the weight without sacrificing comfort or safety.
  • Hydration and electrolytes are mission-critical, especially for high-mileage days. Don't underestimate your salt needs.
  • Nutrition strategy is everything—consistent fueling keeps your energy steady and prevents the dreaded calorie wall.
  • Planning your day around effort, rest, and fueling is the secret to consistent, high-mileage success.


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]]> Buzzsprout-16733116 Mon, 17 Mar 2025 05:00:00 -0700 4626 176 full false #175 The Power of Rucking with Ruck Evolution’s Bria Ruben #175 The Power of Rucking with Ruck Evolution’s Bria Ruben In this episode of the By Land Podcast, I sit down with Bria Ruben, co-founder of Ruck Evolution, to explore the benefits of rucking—a simple yet powerful way to build fitness, mental resilience, and community. Rucking is walking with weight, and it’s one of the most accessible, low-impact ways to increase endurance and strength.  

Bria shares how she discovered rucking, why it became such a key part of her life, and how Ruck Evolution is making rucking more accessible with innovative water-based weight systems. We talk about why rucking is great for all fitness levels, how it can be integrated into everyday life, and the role of community in keeping people moving.

If you’ve been looking for a practical, no-fuss way to improve your health and prepare for outdoor adventures, this conversation will inspire you to start rucking today.


Key Takeaways:

  • Rucking is an easy way to build endurance, strength, and mental resilience—it’s simply walking with weight.
  • Anyone can ruck—start light and gradually increase weight and distance.
  • Rucking is highly functional—it translates well to activities like hiking, hunting, and everyday movement.
  • It’s more than fitness—rucking builds community and brings people together.
  • You don’t need fancy gear to start—a backpack and some weight (like water bottles) is enough.


Show Notes and Links:

  • Introduction – Why rucking is worth your time
  • Bria’s Background – How she discovered rucking and her work in recreation therapy
  • Rucking 101 – What it is, why it works, and how to get started
  • The Benefits of Rucking – Strength, endurance, mental clarity, and injury prevention
  • How Rucking Fits Into Everyday Life – Training for outdoor adventures, fitness goals, and more
  • Building a Rucking Community – Why doing it with others keeps you motivated
  • Ruck Evolution’s Innovative Gear – How they’re making rucking more accessible
  • Final Thoughts & Resources – Where to learn more and how to get started today
  • https://www.ruckevolution.com/
  • Ruck Evolution Aquabells: https://www.ruckevolution.com/product-page/ruck-evolution-aquabells
  • Weighted Vest (amazon): https://amzn.to/3QPmqns

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]]> In this episode of the By Land Podcast, I sit down with Bria Ruben, co-founder of Ruck Evolution, to explore the benefits of rucking—a simple yet powerful way to build fitness, mental resilience, and community. Rucking is walking with weight, and it’s one of the most accessible, low-impact ways to increase endurance and strength.  

Bria shares how she discovered rucking, why it became such a key part of her life, and how Ruck Evolution is making rucking more accessible with innovative water-based weight systems. We talk about why rucking is great for all fitness levels, how it can be integrated into everyday life, and the role of community in keeping people moving.

If you’ve been looking for a practical, no-fuss way to improve your health and prepare for outdoor adventures, this conversation will inspire you to start rucking today.


Key Takeaways:

  • Rucking is an easy way to build endurance, strength, and mental resilience—it’s simply walking with weight.
  • Anyone can ruck—start light and gradually increase weight and distance.
  • Rucking is highly functional—it translates well to activities like hiking, hunting, and everyday movement.
  • It’s more than fitness—rucking builds community and brings people together.
  • You don’t need fancy gear to start—a backpack and some weight (like water bottles) is enough.


Show Notes and Links:

  • Introduction – Why rucking is worth your time
  • Bria’s Background – How she discovered rucking and her work in recreation therapy
  • Rucking 101 – What it is, why it works, and how to get started
  • The Benefits of Rucking – Strength, endurance, mental clarity, and injury prevention
  • How Rucking Fits Into Everyday Life – Training for outdoor adventures, fitness goals, and more
  • Building a Rucking Community – Why doing it with others keeps you motivated
  • Ruck Evolution’s Innovative Gear – How they’re making rucking more accessible
  • Final Thoughts & Resources – Where to learn more and how to get started today
  • https://www.ruckevolution.com/
  • Ruck Evolution Aquabells: https://www.ruckevolution.com/product-page/ruck-evolution-aquabells
  • Weighted Vest (amazon): https://amzn.to/3QPmqns

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]]> Buzzsprout-16733092 Mon, 10 Mar 2025 10:00:00 -0700 4541 175 full false #174 Bridging the Divide: Hunting vs. Rec with Kevin Timm of Seek Outside #174 Bridging the Divide: Hunting vs. Rec with Kevin Timm of Seek Outside In this episode, I sit down with Kevin Timm, founder of Seek Outside, to discuss the intersection of hunting, backpacking, and innovation in outdoor gear design. Kevin shares his thoughts on bridging the divide between recreational users and hunters, the role of durability in product design, and the stories behind Seek Outside's tents and backpacks. We dive into the evolution of his minimalist, high-performance shelters and why they’ve become a staple for serious adventurers around the world. Kevin also talks about the philosophy that drives his company’s commitment to user-tested, proven gear and why experience in the outdoors should always trump external validation.

Key Takeaways:

  • Bridging the Divide: Kevin discusses how marketing has contributed to the division between hunters and recreational adventurers and emphasizes the shared love of nature.
  • Gear That Lasts: Seek Outside's products are designed to be user-tested and capable of thriving in diverse environments, from Alaskan hunts to desert hikes.
  • Innovation in Design: Kevin shares how Seek Outside’s tents, particularly their zipperless shelters, provide durability without sacrificing weight.
  • The Power of Minimalism: Experienced backpackers tend to favor simple, functional gear that reduces bulk and increases versatility.
  • Access and Conservation: Kevin explains the importance of public land access and highlights issues such as landlocked public areas and the complexities of wildlife conservation.


Show Notes and Links:

  • Introduction: Welcoming Kevin Timm back to the podcast and revisiting his journey with Seek Outside.
  • The Outdoor Divide: Discussing the divide between hunters and recreational adventurers and how marketing plays a role.
  • The Origins of Seek Outside: Kevin’s motivation for creating gear that excels in harsh conditions.
  • Tents That Survive Anything: A breakdown of the Red Cliff and Cimarron shelters and their legendary durability.
  • Packs that Redefine Comfort: How Seek Outside integrates backpacking and hunting designs to create sub-3lb packs that carry heavy loads comfortably.
  • Simplifying Gear Needs: Why minimalist pack designs are often superior to overbuilt models full of pockets.
  • Conservation Conversations: The importance of public land access and issues like corner crossing and landlocked land.
  • Valuing Experience Over Trophies: Kevin’s reflections on why outdoor experiences matter more than external validation.
  • https://seekoutside.com/
  • https://seekoutside.com/silex-1p-xl/
  • https://seekoutside.com/sunlight-2p/
  • https://seekoutside.com/cimarron-4p/
  • https://seekoutside.com/flight-3/

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]]> In this episode, I sit down with Kevin Timm, founder of Seek Outside, to discuss the intersection of hunting, backpacking, and innovation in outdoor gear design. Kevin shares his thoughts on bridging the divide between recreational users and hunters, the role of durability in product design, and the stories behind Seek Outside's tents and backpacks. We dive into the evolution of his minimalist, high-performance shelters and why they’ve become a staple for serious adventurers around the world. Kevin also talks about the philosophy that drives his company’s commitment to user-tested, proven gear and why experience in the outdoors should always trump external validation.

Key Takeaways:

  • Bridging the Divide: Kevin discusses how marketing has contributed to the division between hunters and recreational adventurers and emphasizes the shared love of nature.
  • Gear That Lasts: Seek Outside's products are designed to be user-tested and capable of thriving in diverse environments, from Alaskan hunts to desert hikes.
  • Innovation in Design: Kevin shares how Seek Outside’s tents, particularly their zipperless shelters, provide durability without sacrificing weight.
  • The Power of Minimalism: Experienced backpackers tend to favor simple, functional gear that reduces bulk and increases versatility.
  • Access and Conservation: Kevin explains the importance of public land access and highlights issues such as landlocked public areas and the complexities of wildlife conservation.


Show Notes and Links:

  • Introduction: Welcoming Kevin Timm back to the podcast and revisiting his journey with Seek Outside.
  • The Outdoor Divide: Discussing the divide between hunters and recreational adventurers and how marketing plays a role.
  • The Origins of Seek Outside: Kevin’s motivation for creating gear that excels in harsh conditions.
  • Tents That Survive Anything: A breakdown of the Red Cliff and Cimarron shelters and their legendary durability.
  • Packs that Redefine Comfort: How Seek Outside integrates backpacking and hunting designs to create sub-3lb packs that carry heavy loads comfortably.
  • Simplifying Gear Needs: Why minimalist pack designs are often superior to overbuilt models full of pockets.
  • Conservation Conversations: The importance of public land access and issues like corner crossing and landlocked land.
  • Valuing Experience Over Trophies: Kevin’s reflections on why outdoor experiences matter more than external validation.
  • https://seekoutside.com/
  • https://seekoutside.com/silex-1p-xl/
  • https://seekoutside.com/sunlight-2p/
  • https://seekoutside.com/cimarron-4p/
  • https://seekoutside.com/flight-3/

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]]> Emory Wanger Buzzsprout-16448165 Thu, 23 Jan 2025 05:00:00 -0800 6233 174 full false #173 From 100 Miles to Full-Time Creator with Chad Lubinski #173 From 100 Miles to Full-Time Creator with Chad Lubinski In this episode, I sit down with Chad to dive into his journey from a beginner hiker to a seasoned thru-hiker, ultra-runner, and outdoor content creator. We explore the moments that shaped his path, including his first 100-mile hike, overcoming mental and physical challenges, and his leap from a 9-to-5 job to full-time content creation. Chad shares his insights on balancing passion with work, avoiding burnout, and how endurance sports like ultra-running have influenced his approach to hunting and outdoor adventures. This episode is packed with honest reflections, valuable lessons, and inspiration for anyone pursuing adventure and creativity.

Key Takeaways

  • 100-Mile Hikes Build Resilience: Reaching the 100-mile mark on a hike forces you to adapt and grow, making it a significant milestone for backpackers.
  • Mentorship Accelerates Learning: Observing experienced hikers can help you fast-track your progress and avoid common mistakes.
  • Compartmentalization Prevents Burnout: Separating content creation from personal adventures helps maintain a healthy relationship with the outdoors.
  • Endurance Sports Enhance Mental Toughness: Ultra-running taught Chad how to endure discomfort and maintain focus during long hunting trips.
  • Pursuing Passion Requires Discipline: Whether it's creating content or pursuing outdoor goals, success comes from building habits and embracing the hard moments.


Show Notes and Links

  • Intro and Catching Up
  • The Waterfall Controversy and Preferences in Nature
  • Chad’s First 100-Mile Hike and the Power of Mentorship
  • Transition to Full-Time Content Creation
  • Balancing Content Creation with Outdoor Enjoyment
  • Avoiding Burnout as a Creator
  • Overcoming Setbacks and Finding Motivation
  • From Ultra-Running to Hunting: Lessons in Endurance
  • The Reality of Hunting as an Endurance Sport
  •  Discipline, Passion, and Self-Discovery
  • Chad's Instagram
  • Chad's YouTube Channel

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]]> In this episode, I sit down with Chad to dive into his journey from a beginner hiker to a seasoned thru-hiker, ultra-runner, and outdoor content creator. We explore the moments that shaped his path, including his first 100-mile hike, overcoming mental and physical challenges, and his leap from a 9-to-5 job to full-time content creation. Chad shares his insights on balancing passion with work, avoiding burnout, and how endurance sports like ultra-running have influenced his approach to hunting and outdoor adventures. This episode is packed with honest reflections, valuable lessons, and inspiration for anyone pursuing adventure and creativity.

Key Takeaways

  • 100-Mile Hikes Build Resilience: Reaching the 100-mile mark on a hike forces you to adapt and grow, making it a significant milestone for backpackers.
  • Mentorship Accelerates Learning: Observing experienced hikers can help you fast-track your progress and avoid common mistakes.
  • Compartmentalization Prevents Burnout: Separating content creation from personal adventures helps maintain a healthy relationship with the outdoors.
  • Endurance Sports Enhance Mental Toughness: Ultra-running taught Chad how to endure discomfort and maintain focus during long hunting trips.
  • Pursuing Passion Requires Discipline: Whether it's creating content or pursuing outdoor goals, success comes from building habits and embracing the hard moments.


Show Notes and Links

  • Intro and Catching Up
  • The Waterfall Controversy and Preferences in Nature
  • Chad’s First 100-Mile Hike and the Power of Mentorship
  • Transition to Full-Time Content Creation
  • Balancing Content Creation with Outdoor Enjoyment
  • Avoiding Burnout as a Creator
  • Overcoming Setbacks and Finding Motivation
  • From Ultra-Running to Hunting: Lessons in Endurance
  • The Reality of Hunting as an Endurance Sport
  •  Discipline, Passion, and Self-Discovery
  • Chad's Instagram
  • Chad's YouTube Channel

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]]> Emory Wanger Buzzsprout-16420669 Sat, 11 Jan 2025 15:00:00 -0800 5046 173 full false #172 A Spectacular Misadventure in the Grand Canyon with Kevin Fedarko #172 A Spectacular Misadventure in the Grand Canyon with Kevin Fedarko Acclaimed author Kevin Fedarko, joins the podcast to discuss his new book, A Walk in the Park, which details the epic journey he took across the length of the Grand Canyon. Kevin reflects on the grueling physical and emotional challenges he and his hiking partner, Pete McBride, faced and how the landscape humbled them. He shares the powerful lessons learned from the wilderness and the close-knit Grand Canyon community that helped them along the way. Our conversation touches on themes of humility, the power of community, and how wilderness can shape us and strengthen our bonds. Kevin also provides insights into his six-year writing process and the deep connection he feels to the Grand Canyon.

Key Takeaways:

  • Preparation Is Key: Overconfidence can lead to hard lessons, especially in the wilderness.
  • Community Matters: Support from others can turn failure into triumph.
  • Humility Is Transformative: The Grand Canyon has a way of humbling even the most seasoned adventurers.
  • Conservation Is a Responsibility: Protecting wilderness ensures its legacy for future generations.
  • Wilderness Connects Us: Experiencing the outdoors with loved ones deepens bonds and creates lasting memories.


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]]> Acclaimed author Kevin Fedarko, joins the podcast to discuss his new book, A Walk in the Park, which details the epic journey he took across the length of the Grand Canyon. Kevin reflects on the grueling physical and emotional challenges he and his hiking partner, Pete McBride, faced and how the landscape humbled them. He shares the powerful lessons learned from the wilderness and the close-knit Grand Canyon community that helped them along the way. Our conversation touches on themes of humility, the power of community, and how wilderness can shape us and strengthen our bonds. Kevin also provides insights into his six-year writing process and the deep connection he feels to the Grand Canyon.

Key Takeaways:

  • Preparation Is Key: Overconfidence can lead to hard lessons, especially in the wilderness.
  • Community Matters: Support from others can turn failure into triumph.
  • Humility Is Transformative: The Grand Canyon has a way of humbling even the most seasoned adventurers.
  • Conservation Is a Responsibility: Protecting wilderness ensures its legacy for future generations.
  • Wilderness Connects Us: Experiencing the outdoors with loved ones deepens bonds and creates lasting memories.


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]]> Emory Wanger Buzzsprout-16319679 Sun, 22 Dec 2024 09:00:00 -0800 4225 172 full false #171 Inside the Design Philosophy of Mystery Ranch with Alex Rich #171 Inside the Design Philosophy of Mystery Ranch with Alex Rich Alex Rich of Mystery Ranch shares his journey from the production floor to the design team, where he now focuses on creating outdoor and hunting gear that prioritizes load carriage and comfort. We dive into the brand's unique approach to pack design, including the revolutionary overload system, which allows users to carry heavy loads more efficiently.

Our conversation then turns to the technical aspects of Mystery Ranch packs, the balance between weight and durability, and the evolving materials used in outdoor gear. Alex also touches on the importance of starting from the user’s needs when designing, ensuring comfort and stability for hunters, backpackers, and outdoor adventurers alike.

This is the episode to listen to for anyone looking to learn more about Mystery Ranch and pack design.

Key Takeaways:

  • Starting from the user: Mystery Ranch's design philosophy always begins with how the pack interfaces with the user, focusing on comfort and load distribution.
  • Overload system innovation: The company’s overload system revolutionized hunting packs by allowing users to separate the pack from the frame for carrying additional weight.
  • Balancing weight and durability: Mystery Ranch intentionally adds weight to certain parts of the pack to improve structural integrity and comfort for heavy loads, though they are exploring lighter materials like the 330D fabric.
  • Foam design for durability: The waist belts of Mystery Ranch packs use a combination of five different types of foam to ensure long-term comfort and support, even with heavy loads.
  • Adapting military pack designs for hunters: Mystery Ranch's transition from military to hunting packs was organic, with their military-grade designs proving useful for outdoor applications.
  • Evolving materials: The conversation highlights how new materials, such as 330D fabrics, are pushing the boundaries of outdoor gear design.


Show Notes and Links:

  • Introduction to Alex Rich and Mystery Ranch
  • The Evolution of Mystery Ranch: Mission and Mountain
  • The Overload System: Changing the Game for Hunters
  • Design Philosophy: Focusing on the User
  • Balancing Lightweight and Heavy-Duty Materials
  • The Role of Foam in Load Distribution
  • New Innovations and Materials in Outdoor Gear
  • Conclusion: Making Outdoor Adventures Easier
  • Mystery Ranch 
  • Pop-Up Series
  • Backpack Hunting Packs

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]]> Alex Rich of Mystery Ranch shares his journey from the production floor to the design team, where he now focuses on creating outdoor and hunting gear that prioritizes load carriage and comfort. We dive into the brand's unique approach to pack design, including the revolutionary overload system, which allows users to carry heavy loads more efficiently.

Our conversation then turns to the technical aspects of Mystery Ranch packs, the balance between weight and durability, and the evolving materials used in outdoor gear. Alex also touches on the importance of starting from the user’s needs when designing, ensuring comfort and stability for hunters, backpackers, and outdoor adventurers alike.

This is the episode to listen to for anyone looking to learn more about Mystery Ranch and pack design.

Key Takeaways:

  • Starting from the user: Mystery Ranch's design philosophy always begins with how the pack interfaces with the user, focusing on comfort and load distribution.
  • Overload system innovation: The company’s overload system revolutionized hunting packs by allowing users to separate the pack from the frame for carrying additional weight.
  • Balancing weight and durability: Mystery Ranch intentionally adds weight to certain parts of the pack to improve structural integrity and comfort for heavy loads, though they are exploring lighter materials like the 330D fabric.
  • Foam design for durability: The waist belts of Mystery Ranch packs use a combination of five different types of foam to ensure long-term comfort and support, even with heavy loads.
  • Adapting military pack designs for hunters: Mystery Ranch's transition from military to hunting packs was organic, with their military-grade designs proving useful for outdoor applications.
  • Evolving materials: The conversation highlights how new materials, such as 330D fabrics, are pushing the boundaries of outdoor gear design.


Show Notes and Links:

  • Introduction to Alex Rich and Mystery Ranch
  • The Evolution of Mystery Ranch: Mission and Mountain
  • The Overload System: Changing the Game for Hunters
  • Design Philosophy: Focusing on the User
  • Balancing Lightweight and Heavy-Duty Materials
  • The Role of Foam in Load Distribution
  • New Innovations and Materials in Outdoor Gear
  • Conclusion: Making Outdoor Adventures Easier
  • Mystery Ranch 
  • Pop-Up Series
  • Backpack Hunting Packs

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]]> Emory Wanger Buzzsprout-15970582 Fri, 25 Oct 2024 10:00:00 -0700 4459 171 full false #170 Behind the Design: Mystery Ranch Radix Series with Designer Andrew Cottrell #170 Behind the Design: Mystery Ranch Radix Series with Designer Andrew Cottrell Andrew Cottrell is the lead designer of the Radix series of backpacks at Mystery Ranch, an innovative line of ultralight backpacks that combines comfort, durability, and weight-saving features. Andrew shares insights into his hands-on approach to design, the importance of balancing load-carrying capacity with ultralight performance, and how the right gear can impact a hiker’s endurance and comfort on the trail. We also explore the key materials used in the Radix Series and the importance of pack repairability.

Whether you're into backpacking, hiking, or simply interested in the technical aspects of pack design, this episode is packed with great insights.

Key Take Aways

  • The Radix Series Prioritizes Load-Carrying Capacity
  • Durability and Weight Are Balanced Through Innovative Materials
  • Customization and Flexibility Are Core Features of the Radix Series
  • Repairability Is a Key Design Focus
  • Andrew’s Minimalist Approach to Packing
  • The Adjustable Harness Ensures a Perfect Fit
  • Pack Design Can Affect Physical and Mental Endurance
  • Minimalist Design with Strategic Features
  • Innovation at Mystery Ranch Is Driven by Problem-Solving
  • Future-Proofing Packs for Long-Term Use


Show Notes and Links:

  • Introduction and Background
  • Journey into Pack Design
  • The Design Process for the Radix Series
  • Material Advancements and Innovation
  • Load-Carrying Comfort in the Radix Series
  • Customization and Minimalist Features
  • Durability, Repairability, and Sustainability
  • Andrew’s Personal Approach to Pack Organization
  • Future Trends in Pack Design
  • Mystery Ranch
  • Radix 31
  • Radix 47
  • Radix 57


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]]> Andrew Cottrell is the lead designer of the Radix series of backpacks at Mystery Ranch, an innovative line of ultralight backpacks that combines comfort, durability, and weight-saving features. Andrew shares insights into his hands-on approach to design, the importance of balancing load-carrying capacity with ultralight performance, and how the right gear can impact a hiker’s endurance and comfort on the trail. We also explore the key materials used in the Radix Series and the importance of pack repairability.

Whether you're into backpacking, hiking, or simply interested in the technical aspects of pack design, this episode is packed with great insights.

Key Take Aways

  • The Radix Series Prioritizes Load-Carrying Capacity
  • Durability and Weight Are Balanced Through Innovative Materials
  • Customization and Flexibility Are Core Features of the Radix Series
  • Repairability Is a Key Design Focus
  • Andrew’s Minimalist Approach to Packing
  • The Adjustable Harness Ensures a Perfect Fit
  • Pack Design Can Affect Physical and Mental Endurance
  • Minimalist Design with Strategic Features
  • Innovation at Mystery Ranch Is Driven by Problem-Solving
  • Future-Proofing Packs for Long-Term Use


Show Notes and Links:

  • Introduction and Background
  • Journey into Pack Design
  • The Design Process for the Radix Series
  • Material Advancements and Innovation
  • Load-Carrying Comfort in the Radix Series
  • Customization and Minimalist Features
  • Durability, Repairability, and Sustainability
  • Andrew’s Personal Approach to Pack Organization
  • Future Trends in Pack Design
  • Mystery Ranch
  • Radix 31
  • Radix 47
  • Radix 57


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]]> Emory Wanger Buzzsprout-15896487 Thu, 10 Oct 2024 00:00:00 -0700 3997 170 full false #169 Recreating the Flow State with Barefoot Ted #169 Recreating the Flow State with Barefoot Ted Barefoot Ted is widely known for his role in the book Born to Run, but that's just a small part of who he is. In this episode, Ted discusses his approach to life and how to maintain a regular connection with the flow state in everyday life.

Show Notes and Links

  • The Connection Between Movement, Music, and Ideas
  • Barefoot Running and the Rediscovery of Natural Movement
  • The Philosophy Behind Luna Sandals
  • Barefoot Ted's Experience Running a Marathon Barefoot
  • The Pursuit of Personal Challenges
  • Developing a Philosophy and Attitude
  • Creating a Lifestyle
  • Overcoming Despair and Taking Action
  • Finding Freedom and Pursuing Happiness
  • Maintaining Flow State in Daily Life
  • Sharing Wisdom and Life Experiences
  • The Inspiration of Pilgrimages
  • The Influence of Santa Claus
  • The Connection to Junipero Serra
  • The Fundamentals of Happiness
  • The Importance of Time Outdoors
  • The Role of Gear in Outdoor Adventures
  • Backpacking as a Catalyst for Personal Growth
  • The Importance of Being Present
  • The Journey of Well-Being
  • Imprinting Ourselves in Nature
  • The Journey of Self-Empowerment
  • The Power of Being Present
  • Finding What Makes You Come Alive
  • The Flywheel of Energy
  • Hiking as a Journey of Self-Discovery
  • Overcoming Challenges and Doing Better
  • Learning More About Luna Sandals
  • https://lunasandals.com/
  • Middle Bear Sandals
  • Luna Tabu socks
  • Born to Run (the book)
  • Ted's IG

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]]> Barefoot Ted is widely known for his role in the book Born to Run, but that's just a small part of who he is. In this episode, Ted discusses his approach to life and how to maintain a regular connection with the flow state in everyday life.

Show Notes and Links

  • The Connection Between Movement, Music, and Ideas
  • Barefoot Running and the Rediscovery of Natural Movement
  • The Philosophy Behind Luna Sandals
  • Barefoot Ted's Experience Running a Marathon Barefoot
  • The Pursuit of Personal Challenges
  • Developing a Philosophy and Attitude
  • Creating a Lifestyle
  • Overcoming Despair and Taking Action
  • Finding Freedom and Pursuing Happiness
  • Maintaining Flow State in Daily Life
  • Sharing Wisdom and Life Experiences
  • The Inspiration of Pilgrimages
  • The Influence of Santa Claus
  • The Connection to Junipero Serra
  • The Fundamentals of Happiness
  • The Importance of Time Outdoors
  • The Role of Gear in Outdoor Adventures
  • Backpacking as a Catalyst for Personal Growth
  • The Importance of Being Present
  • The Journey of Well-Being
  • Imprinting Ourselves in Nature
  • The Journey of Self-Empowerment
  • The Power of Being Present
  • Finding What Makes You Come Alive
  • The Flywheel of Energy
  • Hiking as a Journey of Self-Discovery
  • Overcoming Challenges and Doing Better
  • Learning More About Luna Sandals
  • https://lunasandals.com/
  • Middle Bear Sandals
  • Luna Tabu socks
  • Born to Run (the book)
  • Ted's IG

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]]> Emory Wanger Buzzsprout-15523716 Sat, 03 Aug 2024 10:00:00 -0700 5941 169 full false #168 You Carry the Tent, I'll Carry the Baby with Jack McClure #168 You Carry the Tent, I'll Carry the Baby with Jack McClure Jack McClure and his wife hiked southbound on the PCT in 2023 with their 9-month-old baby and joins the show to share their journey and lessons learned along the way.  We discuss what life is like as a SOBO, preparing for the hike, relationship challenges along the way, hitting the SOS button, and what it all means in the end. 

Show Notes and Links

  • Preparing for the PCT with a Baby
  • Outdoor Background and Experience
  • Living in the Arctic and Outdoor Learning
  • Judgment and Concerns about Hiking with Kids
  • Benefits and Risks of Outdoor Experiences for Kids
  • The Importance of Outdoor Experiences
  • The Challenges of Alternative Childhood
  • Risk Management and Planning
  • The Breaking-In Period
  • The Impact on the Body
  • The Bee Sting Incident
  • Emergency Response and Recovery
  • The Importance of Carrying a Whistle
  • Lessons Learned from the Experience
  • Dealing with Fires in Northern California
  • Challenges in the Relationship
  • The Importance of Check-InsThe Mental Challenges of the Trail
  • The Decision to Leave the Trail
  • Dealing with Pride and Expectations
  • The Positive Impact on Their Daughter
  • https://animaltreks.com/
  • Jack's Book


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]]> Jack McClure and his wife hiked southbound on the PCT in 2023 with their 9-month-old baby and joins the show to share their journey and lessons learned along the way.  We discuss what life is like as a SOBO, preparing for the hike, relationship challenges along the way, hitting the SOS button, and what it all means in the end. 

Show Notes and Links

  • Preparing for the PCT with a Baby
  • Outdoor Background and Experience
  • Living in the Arctic and Outdoor Learning
  • Judgment and Concerns about Hiking with Kids
  • Benefits and Risks of Outdoor Experiences for Kids
  • The Importance of Outdoor Experiences
  • The Challenges of Alternative Childhood
  • Risk Management and Planning
  • The Breaking-In Period
  • The Impact on the Body
  • The Bee Sting Incident
  • Emergency Response and Recovery
  • The Importance of Carrying a Whistle
  • Lessons Learned from the Experience
  • Dealing with Fires in Northern California
  • Challenges in the Relationship
  • The Importance of Check-InsThe Mental Challenges of the Trail
  • The Decision to Leave the Trail
  • Dealing with Pride and Expectations
  • The Positive Impact on Their Daughter
  • https://animaltreks.com/
  • Jack's Book


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]]> Emory Wanger Buzzsprout-15197171 Wed, 05 Jun 2024 04:00:00 -0700 4217 168 full false #167 Everest Incorporated with Will Cockrell #167 Everest Incorporated with Will Cockrell Will Cockrell joins the podcast to discuss his recently published book detailing the history of Mount Everest, his perspective on the draw of mountaineering, and the connection between suffering and achievement. 

Will also explains the need to tell the full story of Everest, as well as the misconceptions and negative narratives surrounding the mountain. He challenges the idea of who deserves to climb Everest and questions the romanticism and judgment associated with mountaineering. Our conversation covers various themes related to climbing Everest, including the issue of discounting different approaches, the individualized nature of climbing, the perspective of seasoned climbers, the perception of Everest as spoiled, the reality of the Sherpa role, the misunderstanding of the Sherpa culture, the monetization of Everest, and the importance of seeking the whole Everest story.

Will shares insights from his book, reflecting on the state of the industry and the motivations of climbers and explores the relationship between Western climbers and Sherpas, highlighting the positive changes in recent years. Finally, we dive into the challenges of waste management and the future of Everest, emphasizing the importance of stewardship and the understanding of different perspectives.

Show Notes and Links

  • Introductions
  • Early Years and Pursuit of Guiding
  • Specializing in Mo
  • The Draw of Mountaineering
  • The Connection Between Suffering and Achievement
  • The Comfort of the Wilderness
  • The Need for a Book on Guiding on Everest
  • The Counter Narrative to the Negative Perception of Everest
  • Questioning Who Deserves to Be on Everest
  • The Romanticism and Judgment of Mountaineering
  • The Perception of Crowding on Everest
  • The Difficulty of Defining Who Deserves to Climb Everest
  • The Individualized Nature of Climbing Everest
  • The Perspective of Seasoned Everest Climbers
  • The Reality of the Sherpa Role
  • The Monetization of Everest
  • The Importance of Seeking the Whole Story
  • Reflections on the Everest Industry
  • The State of the Everest Industry
  • The Impact of Tourism on Everest
  • The Experience at Everest Base Camp
  • The Dilemma of Camp 4
  • Balancing Conservation and Access
  • The Future of Everest
  • Will's book


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]]> Will Cockrell joins the podcast to discuss his recently published book detailing the history of Mount Everest, his perspective on the draw of mountaineering, and the connection between suffering and achievement. 

Will also explains the need to tell the full story of Everest, as well as the misconceptions and negative narratives surrounding the mountain. He challenges the idea of who deserves to climb Everest and questions the romanticism and judgment associated with mountaineering. Our conversation covers various themes related to climbing Everest, including the issue of discounting different approaches, the individualized nature of climbing, the perspective of seasoned climbers, the perception of Everest as spoiled, the reality of the Sherpa role, the misunderstanding of the Sherpa culture, the monetization of Everest, and the importance of seeking the whole Everest story.

Will shares insights from his book, reflecting on the state of the industry and the motivations of climbers and explores the relationship between Western climbers and Sherpas, highlighting the positive changes in recent years. Finally, we dive into the challenges of waste management and the future of Everest, emphasizing the importance of stewardship and the understanding of different perspectives.

Show Notes and Links

  • Introductions
  • Early Years and Pursuit of Guiding
  • Specializing in Mo
  • The Draw of Mountaineering
  • The Connection Between Suffering and Achievement
  • The Comfort of the Wilderness
  • The Need for a Book on Guiding on Everest
  • The Counter Narrative to the Negative Perception of Everest
  • Questioning Who Deserves to Be on Everest
  • The Romanticism and Judgment of Mountaineering
  • The Perception of Crowding on Everest
  • The Difficulty of Defining Who Deserves to Climb Everest
  • The Individualized Nature of Climbing Everest
  • The Perspective of Seasoned Everest Climbers
  • The Reality of the Sherpa Role
  • The Monetization of Everest
  • The Importance of Seeking the Whole Story
  • Reflections on the Everest Industry
  • The State of the Everest Industry
  • The Impact of Tourism on Everest
  • The Experience at Everest Base Camp
  • The Dilemma of Camp 4
  • Balancing Conservation and Access
  • The Future of Everest
  • Will's book


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]]> Emory Wanger Buzzsprout-14807757 Tue, 16 Apr 2024 00:00:00 -0700 5036 167 full false #166 Backpacking with Kids and New Gear with Brad Brooks of Argali #166 Backpacking with Kids and New Gear with Brad Brooks of Argali Brad Brooks joins the podcast to compare notes on our recent backpacking trips with our kids and discuss the importance of exposing children to the outdoors. We share our experiences and challenges while planning and executing our trips, emphasizing the value of involving children in the decision-making process and building their confidence in doing hard things. We also discuss the unique benefits of backpacking, such as disconnecting from technology and experiencing raw, uncurated adventures. 

We also discuss Argali’s new lineup of tents, their design, what makes these shelters unique, and Argali’s philosophy of constantly seeking improvement and innovation in gear design.   Brad dives into educating me on the materials used in the tent designs and the pros and cons of each.  


Show Notes and Links:

  • Introduction and Catching Up
  • Planning and Preparing for Backpacking with Kids
  • The Challenges and Rewards of Backpacking with Kids
  • Involving Kids in the Planning Process
  • Building Confidence and Creating Lasting Memories
  • The Future of Outdoor Experiences
  •  Conclusion and Final Thoughts
  • The Design and Functionality of the Absaroka TP Tent
  • Polyester vs Nylon: The Debate in Tent Materials
  • Innovation and Thinking Outside the Box in Gear Design
  • The Importance of Functionality and Simplicity in Tent Design
  • The Demands of the Hunting Community for High-Quality Gear
  • Balancing Weight and Functionality in Gear Selection
  • Encouraging Innovation and Creativity in the Outdoor Industry
  • Passion for the Outdoors and Enhancing the Outdoor Experience
  • Website
  • YouTube
  • Instagram
  • Absoroka 4P
  • Absoroka Full Insert
  • Fabric Article
  • Last Wild Places Film

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]]> Brad Brooks joins the podcast to compare notes on our recent backpacking trips with our kids and discuss the importance of exposing children to the outdoors. We share our experiences and challenges while planning and executing our trips, emphasizing the value of involving children in the decision-making process and building their confidence in doing hard things. We also discuss the unique benefits of backpacking, such as disconnecting from technology and experiencing raw, uncurated adventures. 

We also discuss Argali’s new lineup of tents, their design, what makes these shelters unique, and Argali’s philosophy of constantly seeking improvement and innovation in gear design.   Brad dives into educating me on the materials used in the tent designs and the pros and cons of each.  


Show Notes and Links:

  • Introduction and Catching Up
  • Planning and Preparing for Backpacking with Kids
  • The Challenges and Rewards of Backpacking with Kids
  • Involving Kids in the Planning Process
  • Building Confidence and Creating Lasting Memories
  • The Future of Outdoor Experiences
  •  Conclusion and Final Thoughts
  • The Design and Functionality of the Absaroka TP Tent
  • Polyester vs Nylon: The Debate in Tent Materials
  • Innovation and Thinking Outside the Box in Gear Design
  • The Importance of Functionality and Simplicity in Tent Design
  • The Demands of the Hunting Community for High-Quality Gear
  • Balancing Weight and Functionality in Gear Selection
  • Encouraging Innovation and Creativity in the Outdoor Industry
  • Passion for the Outdoors and Enhancing the Outdoor Experience
  • Website
  • YouTube
  • Instagram
  • Absoroka 4P
  • Absoroka Full Insert
  • Fabric Article
  • Last Wild Places Film

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]]> Emory Wanger Buzzsprout-14807740 Mon, 08 Apr 2024 00:00:00 -0700 4932 166 full true #165 Becoming a Backcountry Foodie with Aaron Owens #165 Becoming a Backcountry Foodie with Aaron Owens Aaron Owens runs “Backcountry Foodie,” a one-stop shop for backpackers and long-distance hikers who want to level up their food game in the backcountry.  From ultra-light food recipes and meal planners to a robust calorie calculator and resupply service, Aaron has you covered.  She loves backcountry food so much that she’ll even pack your food bag for you and ship it to your home so all you need to do is toss it in your pack and head out the door!
 

Key Takeaways:

  • Food plays a crucial role in backpacking and can impact performance and enjoyment on the trail
  • Creating a diverse menu with foods that you enjoy from home can help maintain energy levels and prevent boredom
  • Understanding your caloric needs and eating regularly throughout the day is essential for sustained energy and avoiding bonking
  • While junk food can provide quick energy, it's important to balance it with complex carbohydrates, protein, and fats for optimal performance
  • Transitioning to a new diet on the trail should be done gradually to avoid digestive issues and other negative effects on the body.
  • Customize your meal plans based on your hiking strategy and preferences.
  • Maximize the nutritional value of each bite by incorporating combination foods
  • Eat every hour to hour and a half to maintain energy levels throughout the day
  • Consider freeze-drying your own meals for a lightweight and personalized backpacking experience
  • Keep a hiking food journal to track what works and what doesn't for future trips


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]]> Aaron Owens runs “Backcountry Foodie,” a one-stop shop for backpackers and long-distance hikers who want to level up their food game in the backcountry.  From ultra-light food recipes and meal planners to a robust calorie calculator and resupply service, Aaron has you covered.  She loves backcountry food so much that she’ll even pack your food bag for you and ship it to your home so all you need to do is toss it in your pack and head out the door!
 

Key Takeaways:

  • Food plays a crucial role in backpacking and can impact performance and enjoyment on the trail
  • Creating a diverse menu with foods that you enjoy from home can help maintain energy levels and prevent boredom
  • Understanding your caloric needs and eating regularly throughout the day is essential for sustained energy and avoiding bonking
  • While junk food can provide quick energy, it's important to balance it with complex carbohydrates, protein, and fats for optimal performance
  • Transitioning to a new diet on the trail should be done gradually to avoid digestive issues and other negative effects on the body.
  • Customize your meal plans based on your hiking strategy and preferences.
  • Maximize the nutritional value of each bite by incorporating combination foods
  • Eat every hour to hour and a half to maintain energy levels throughout the day
  • Consider freeze-drying your own meals for a lightweight and personalized backpacking experience
  • Keep a hiking food journal to track what works and what doesn't for future trips


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]]> Emory Wanger Buzzsprout-14655391 Fri, 08 Mar 2024 14:00:00 -0800 4458 165 full false #164 The Complexity of Conservation with Robbie Kroger of Blood Origins #164 The Complexity of Conservation with Robbie Kroger of Blood Origins Robbie Kroger of Blood Origins joins the show to discuss the complex relationship between hunting and conservation.  

We cover a range of topics, including the reintroduction of wolves, the function of wetlands, what would happen if we stopped hunting altogether, and finally, the impact social media has had on hunting.  We also discuss the responsibilities brands have in shaping narratives and the importance of a respectful approach to hunting as a part of conservation. 

Robbie is a wealth of knowledge and one heck of a guy!

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]]> Robbie Kroger of Blood Origins joins the show to discuss the complex relationship between hunting and conservation.  

We cover a range of topics, including the reintroduction of wolves, the function of wetlands, what would happen if we stopped hunting altogether, and finally, the impact social media has had on hunting.  We also discuss the responsibilities brands have in shaping narratives and the importance of a respectful approach to hunting as a part of conservation. 

Robbie is a wealth of knowledge and one heck of a guy!

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]]> Emory Wanger Buzzsprout-14510711 Sun, 18 Feb 2024 00:00:00 -0800 4287 164 full false #163 Planning Made Easy with Janelle Smith of Rec.gov #163 Planning Made Easy with Janelle Smith of Rec.gov Janelle Smith is the strategic communications team lead at rec.gov and is responsible for spreading the word about the myriad of offerings the platform has for outdoor enthusiasts.  As the summer season approaches, many of us are deep in the planning mode for camping trips, making this conversation with Janelle and her team a no-brainer.

If you're not yet familiar with rec.gov, think of it as your ultimate planning companion for camping and various outdoor activities.  Janelle walks us through the functionalities of this planning tool, highlighting how it simplifies the process of discovering available sites, understanding what's out there, and crafting the perfect trip itinerary.

Janelle's role as a key representative for rec.gov makes her insights particularly valuable.  Whether you're a seasoned user or a newcomer, this episode will likely uncover nuances about rec.gov that you might not have considered.


Show Notes and Links:

  • Getting to know Janelle
  • Rec.gov services and mission
  • Recreation before Rec.gov
  • 2023 recreational trends
  • New features for 2024
  • Addressing no-show campers
  • Post COVID trends
  • Advice for booking popular campsites
  • The “Trip Builder” feature
  • Janelle’s “why” behind what she does
  • The “big picture”
  • Encouraging exploration
  • https://www.recreation.gov/

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]]> Janelle Smith is the strategic communications team lead at rec.gov and is responsible for spreading the word about the myriad of offerings the platform has for outdoor enthusiasts.  As the summer season approaches, many of us are deep in the planning mode for camping trips, making this conversation with Janelle and her team a no-brainer.

If you're not yet familiar with rec.gov, think of it as your ultimate planning companion for camping and various outdoor activities.  Janelle walks us through the functionalities of this planning tool, highlighting how it simplifies the process of discovering available sites, understanding what's out there, and crafting the perfect trip itinerary.

Janelle's role as a key representative for rec.gov makes her insights particularly valuable.  Whether you're a seasoned user or a newcomer, this episode will likely uncover nuances about rec.gov that you might not have considered.


Show Notes and Links:

  • Getting to know Janelle
  • Rec.gov services and mission
  • Recreation before Rec.gov
  • 2023 recreational trends
  • New features for 2024
  • Addressing no-show campers
  • Post COVID trends
  • Advice for booking popular campsites
  • The “Trip Builder” feature
  • Janelle’s “why” behind what she does
  • The “big picture”
  • Encouraging exploration
  • https://www.recreation.gov/

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]]> Emory Wanger Buzzsprout-14057423 Mon, 15 Jan 2024 00:00:00 -0800 3296 163 full false #162 Relatives, not Resources with Dr. Dan Wildcat #162 Relatives, not Resources with Dr. Dan Wildcat Dr. Dan Wildcat joins the podcast to discuss his new book "On Indigenuity" and how we can reframe our relationship with the natural world in both a personal and global way.  Dan is a Yuchi member of the Muscogee Nation of Oklahoma, PhD, and teaches at Haskell Nations University.  He's a wealth of wisdom and knowledge and offers a refreshing approach to long-debated topics.


Show Notes and Links

  • Getting to know Dan
  • Dan’s early years
  • Relationships with the land
  • Our disconnection with the natural world
  • On being insulated from natural reality
  • How to retraining our mental framework
  • Resources vs Relatives
  • Dealing with climate change in a new way
  • Traditional Christian views versus Indigenous
  • Experiential versus Spiritual
  • The psychology of living in fear
  • Unwrapping experiential moments
  • Dan’s book "On Indigenuity" (available Nov 14th) 
  • Dan’s Bio
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]]> Dr. Dan Wildcat joins the podcast to discuss his new book "On Indigenuity" and how we can reframe our relationship with the natural world in both a personal and global way.  Dan is a Yuchi member of the Muscogee Nation of Oklahoma, PhD, and teaches at Haskell Nations University.  He's a wealth of wisdom and knowledge and offers a refreshing approach to long-debated topics.


Show Notes and Links

  • Getting to know Dan
  • Dan’s early years
  • Relationships with the land
  • Our disconnection with the natural world
  • On being insulated from natural reality
  • How to retraining our mental framework
  • Resources vs Relatives
  • Dealing with climate change in a new way
  • Traditional Christian views versus Indigenous
  • Experiential versus Spiritual
  • The psychology of living in fear
  • Unwrapping experiential moments
  • Dan’s book "On Indigenuity" (available Nov 14th) 
  • Dan’s Bio
  • 20% Discount: Use BYLAND at checkout - CLICK HERE

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]]> Emory Wanger Buzzsprout-14057426 Fri, 08 Dec 2023 00:00:00 -0800 3752 162 full false #161 Behind the Seams of Alpine Fit with Jen Loofbourrow #161 Behind the Seams of Alpine Fit with Jen Loofbourrow Jen Loofbourrow is the Owner and Founder of Alpine Fit, a baselayer-focused brand that offers multiple fit options in a custom odor-resistant fabric.  Jen joins the show to talk about her background in the outdoors, why she launched a baselayer clothing brand, why proper fit is so important, and much more!

Show Notes and Links

  • PCT Days recap 
  • Getting involved with the long-distance crowd 
  • Seeing products in the wild for the first time 
  • Why start a base layer brand? 
  • Jen’s custom fabric for Alpine Fit 
  • Jen’s outdoor backstory 
  • Learning how to pack the essentials 
  • Having options, but not TOO many options 
  • Emory’s vision of a perfect outdoor store 
  • On customers wanting a personal connection 
  • The importance of offering multiple fit options 
  • How Jen manages fit options 
  • Tailoring from Alpine Fit 
  • The building blocks of Alpine Fit 
  • The importance of a proper fit 
  • Bushwhacking Leggings 
  • Jen’s perfect layering system 
  • How to follow up with Jen and Alpine Fit 
  • https://www.facebook.com/alpinefitco
  •  https://www.instagram.com/alpinefitco/
  •  https://www.youtube.com/@alpinefit
  •  https://www.linkedin.com/company/alpinefitco

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]]> Jen Loofbourrow is the Owner and Founder of Alpine Fit, a baselayer-focused brand that offers multiple fit options in a custom odor-resistant fabric.  Jen joins the show to talk about her background in the outdoors, why she launched a baselayer clothing brand, why proper fit is so important, and much more!

Show Notes and Links

  • PCT Days recap 
  • Getting involved with the long-distance crowd 
  • Seeing products in the wild for the first time 
  • Why start a base layer brand? 
  • Jen’s custom fabric for Alpine Fit 
  • Jen’s outdoor backstory 
  • Learning how to pack the essentials 
  • Having options, but not TOO many options 
  • Emory’s vision of a perfect outdoor store 
  • On customers wanting a personal connection 
  • The importance of offering multiple fit options 
  • How Jen manages fit options 
  • Tailoring from Alpine Fit 
  • The building blocks of Alpine Fit 
  • The importance of a proper fit 
  • Bushwhacking Leggings 
  • Jen’s perfect layering system 
  • How to follow up with Jen and Alpine Fit 
  • https://www.facebook.com/alpinefitco
  •  https://www.instagram.com/alpinefitco/
  •  https://www.youtube.com/@alpinefit
  •  https://www.linkedin.com/company/alpinefitco

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]]> Emory Wanger Buzzsprout-13752369 Fri, 13 Oct 2023 00:00:00 -0700 4489 161 full false #160 Master Your Craft with Bill Stoker #160 Master Your Craft with Bill Stoker Bill Stoker is a retired Army Veteran with a passion for teaching others how to master the art of fieldcraft and land navigation.  In this episode, Bill joins the podcast for a deep dive into how to gain the correct mindset and perspective when in the field, the importance of situational awareness, and how his childhood years impacted how he views the world today.


Show Notes and Links

  • Getting to know Bill
  • How Bill got into land nav and fieldcraft
  • The importance of changing perspective
  • How complacency presents itself
  • What land navigation students struggle with the most
  • Digital vs. analog navigation
  • What causes distrust in equipment 
  • How to teach Situational Awareness
  • Bill’s childhood years
  • Audience response to deeper discussions
  • Barriers or excuses?
  • The importance of friction points
  • How the outdoors has changed over time 
  • The “do nothing” outdoor challenge
  • What’s next for Bill in retirement
  • How to follow up with Bill
  • www.youtube.com/stokermatic
  • www.stokermatic.com
  • https://www.instagram.com/stokercraft

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]]> Bill Stoker is a retired Army Veteran with a passion for teaching others how to master the art of fieldcraft and land navigation.  In this episode, Bill joins the podcast for a deep dive into how to gain the correct mindset and perspective when in the field, the importance of situational awareness, and how his childhood years impacted how he views the world today.


Show Notes and Links

  • Getting to know Bill
  • How Bill got into land nav and fieldcraft
  • The importance of changing perspective
  • How complacency presents itself
  • What land navigation students struggle with the most
  • Digital vs. analog navigation
  • What causes distrust in equipment 
  • How to teach Situational Awareness
  • Bill’s childhood years
  • Audience response to deeper discussions
  • Barriers or excuses?
  • The importance of friction points
  • How the outdoors has changed over time 
  • The “do nothing” outdoor challenge
  • What’s next for Bill in retirement
  • How to follow up with Bill
  • www.youtube.com/stokermatic
  • www.stokermatic.com
  • https://www.instagram.com/stokercraft

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]]> Emory Wanger Buzzsprout-13500505 Fri, 08 Sep 2023 00:00:00 -0700 5135 160 full false #159 "Maybe In A Little Bit" - Off-Trail with Emory #159 "Maybe In A Little Bit" - Off-Trail with Emory In this episode, it's just you and me hanging out for a bit.  We'll catch you up on life and why I've been missing from the podcast for a couple of months.  Don't worry, the show still goes on, but I had some growing to do, and you're going to hear all about it.

I love gear and trail stories as much as the next person, however, I think it's equally important to talk about life off the trail.  What we learn in the field makes us better at home, and vice versa.  I've been in the throws of a learning experience and I'm now ready to talk about it.

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Ultralight and cottage backpacking brands.

REI
Assorted outdoor gear and equipment.

Backcountry
Assorted outdoor gear and equipment.

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]]> In this episode, it's just you and me hanging out for a bit.  We'll catch you up on life and why I've been missing from the podcast for a couple of months.  Don't worry, the show still goes on, but I had some growing to do, and you're going to hear all about it.

I love gear and trail stories as much as the next person, however, I think it's equally important to talk about life off the trail.  What we learn in the field makes us better at home, and vice versa.  I've been in the throws of a learning experience and I'm now ready to talk about it.

Links


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Garage Grown Gear
Ultralight and cottage backpacking brands.

REI
Assorted outdoor gear and equipment.

Backcountry
Assorted outdoor gear and equipment.

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]]> Emory Wanger Buzzsprout-13466800 Fri, 25 Aug 2023 00:00:00 -0700 1518 159 full false #158 Escaping the Thru-Hiking Mentality and Rediscovering Backpacking with Michael “Einstein” Gelfeld #158 Escaping the Thru-Hiking Mentality and Rediscovering Backpacking with Michael “Einstein” Gelfeld Michael "Einstein" Gelfeld is an accomplished backpacker and bikepacker.  He's logged thousands of miles doing both, but when you ask him what matters most after all of that, he'd tell you it's not the stats but instead, whether or not you enjoy what you're doing.

Einstein joins the podcast to discuss current backpacking culture, how he escaped the thru-hiking mentality, and how he rediscovered his love for backpacking.

Show Notes and Links

Audience Feedback and Survey
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REI
Assorted outdoor gear and equipment.

Garage Grown Gear
Ultralight and cottage backpacking brands.

Backcountry
Assorted outdoor gear and equipment.

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]]> Michael "Einstein" Gelfeld is an accomplished backpacker and bikepacker.  He's logged thousands of miles doing both, but when you ask him what matters most after all of that, he'd tell you it's not the stats but instead, whether or not you enjoy what you're doing.

Einstein joins the podcast to discuss current backpacking culture, how he escaped the thru-hiking mentality, and how he rediscovered his love for backpacking.

Show Notes and Links

Audience Feedback and Survey
If you'd like to help shape the future of the podcast, please fill out the form by visiting the link below or email me at emory@byland.co.  Thanks!

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REI
Assorted outdoor gear and equipment.

Garage Grown Gear
Ultralight and cottage backpacking brands.

Backcountry
Assorted outdoor gear and equipment.

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]]> Emory Wanger Buzzsprout-12970932 Mon, 12 Jun 2023 00:00:00 -0700 4701 158 full true #157 Inside Nuyarn’s Revolutionary Spin On Merino Wool with CEO Andy Wynne #157 Inside Nuyarn’s Revolutionary Spin On Merino Wool with CEO Andy Wynne Andy Wynne is the CEO of Nuyarn®, a Merino wool textile manufacturer that has reinvented the way Merino is spun so it can unlock its natural characteristics while enhancing performance.  The result is a material that can outperform synthetics while maintaining the benefits of natural fiber.  Nuyarn® is stronger, stretchier, softer, more abrasion resistant, and as you’ll learn here in a minute, is spun on machines that have a reduced impact on the environment.  Long story short, the Merino wool you’re used to wearing wasn’t spun with the rigors of the outdoors in mind, Nuyarn® is, and you’re about to learn all about it.

If you want a solid education on Merino wool and some insight into how and why it’s made the way it is, you’ll enjoy this episode.  Andy walks us through his backstory, the development of Nuyarn®, and why it matters.


Show Notes and Links

  • Introductions
  • Making the switch from synthetic to merino
  • Andy’s backstory
  • How Merino wool works
  • Traditional ways of manufacturing wool
  • The Nuyarn® method of spinning Merino
  • What the industry was asking for
  • Durability of Nuyarn®
  • Suggested weight for sun hoodies
  • Why Polyester can be clammy
  • What Nuyarn is comprised of
  • Why Merino is itchy (Microns explained)
  • Purpose-built spinning machines
  • Animal welfare, ethics, and renewable material  surrounding Merino wool (sheep shearing)
  • Continuing to push limits and make an impact 
  • How to find Nuyarn® products
  • Moisture retainment issues with Merino
  • https://nuyarn.co.nz/
  • Nuyarn introduction (video)

Brands Using Nuyarn®

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]]> Andy Wynne is the CEO of Nuyarn®, a Merino wool textile manufacturer that has reinvented the way Merino is spun so it can unlock its natural characteristics while enhancing performance.  The result is a material that can outperform synthetics while maintaining the benefits of natural fiber.  Nuyarn® is stronger, stretchier, softer, more abrasion resistant, and as you’ll learn here in a minute, is spun on machines that have a reduced impact on the environment.  Long story short, the Merino wool you’re used to wearing wasn’t spun with the rigors of the outdoors in mind, Nuyarn® is, and you’re about to learn all about it.

If you want a solid education on Merino wool and some insight into how and why it’s made the way it is, you’ll enjoy this episode.  Andy walks us through his backstory, the development of Nuyarn®, and why it matters.


Show Notes and Links

  • Introductions
  • Making the switch from synthetic to merino
  • Andy’s backstory
  • How Merino wool works
  • Traditional ways of manufacturing wool
  • The Nuyarn® method of spinning Merino
  • What the industry was asking for
  • Durability of Nuyarn®
  • Suggested weight for sun hoodies
  • Why Polyester can be clammy
  • What Nuyarn is comprised of
  • Why Merino is itchy (Microns explained)
  • Purpose-built spinning machines
  • Animal welfare, ethics, and renewable material  surrounding Merino wool (sheep shearing)
  • Continuing to push limits and make an impact 
  • How to find Nuyarn® products
  • Moisture retainment issues with Merino
  • https://nuyarn.co.nz/
  • Nuyarn introduction (video)

Brands Using Nuyarn®

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]]> Emory Wanger Buzzsprout-12855161 Mon, 22 May 2023 00:00:00 -0700 4238 157 full false #156 Behind the Design with Exo Mountain Gear #156 Behind the Design with Exo Mountain Gear Exo Mountain Gear specializes in load-hauling backpacks designed for hunters.  Steve Speck and Mark Huelsing join me for a behind-the-scenes look at Exo's newest K4 pack design.  After more than 3 years in development and over a decade of pack-building experience, the K4 is a finely tuned design and the best pack Exo has designed to date.

This episode is loaded with insight into the principles of pack design, the mechanical function of load carry (this is HUGE), and how Steve decides which features and updates make the cut when revising his designs.

If you spend any amount of time with any kind of pack strapped to your back (yes, even a lightweight one), you can learn a lot from Steve and Mark.  Knowing how your gear functions will put you in the driver's seat rather than being a mere passenger hoping it's all going to work out.

Exo Mountain Gear is the real deal.  They make a premium product and a team behind them that cares about their customers.

Enjoy!


Show Notes and Links

  • Catching up with Mark and Steve
  • Recapping Steve’s recent Alaskan sheep hunts
  • Recapping Mark’s Mountain Goat hunt
  • Mental strength - how to stay positive and mentally present
  • Transitioning to the natural cycle of the backcountry
  • Where pack design begins
  • Exo Pack design principles
  • Pack design changes over the years
  • Exciting changes to the K4 design 
  • Where quality load carry begins 
  • The importance of hip-belt structure
  • Finding the sweet spot in pack design
  • The importance of taking care of customers
  • Ivory holster compatibility with K4
  • Plans for the rest of 2023
  • How to follow up with Exo Mountain Gear  
  • https://exomtngear.com/
  • Instagram
  • YouTube
  • The Hunt Backcountry Podcast

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]]> Exo Mountain Gear specializes in load-hauling backpacks designed for hunters.  Steve Speck and Mark Huelsing join me for a behind-the-scenes look at Exo's newest K4 pack design.  After more than 3 years in development and over a decade of pack-building experience, the K4 is a finely tuned design and the best pack Exo has designed to date.

This episode is loaded with insight into the principles of pack design, the mechanical function of load carry (this is HUGE), and how Steve decides which features and updates make the cut when revising his designs.

If you spend any amount of time with any kind of pack strapped to your back (yes, even a lightweight one), you can learn a lot from Steve and Mark.  Knowing how your gear functions will put you in the driver's seat rather than being a mere passenger hoping it's all going to work out.

Exo Mountain Gear is the real deal.  They make a premium product and a team behind them that cares about their customers.

Enjoy!


Show Notes and Links

  • Catching up with Mark and Steve
  • Recapping Steve’s recent Alaskan sheep hunts
  • Recapping Mark’s Mountain Goat hunt
  • Mental strength - how to stay positive and mentally present
  • Transitioning to the natural cycle of the backcountry
  • Where pack design begins
  • Exo Pack design principles
  • Pack design changes over the years
  • Exciting changes to the K4 design 
  • Where quality load carry begins 
  • The importance of hip-belt structure
  • Finding the sweet spot in pack design
  • The importance of taking care of customers
  • Ivory holster compatibility with K4
  • Plans for the rest of 2023
  • How to follow up with Exo Mountain Gear  
  • https://exomtngear.com/
  • Instagram
  • YouTube
  • The Hunt Backcountry Podcast

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]]> Buzzsprout-12689418 Mon, 24 Apr 2023 00:00:00 -0700 5067 156 full false #155 Getting to Know Dan Becker #155 Getting to Know Dan Becker Dan Becker is a backpacker from Wisconsin who turned his passion into his full-time profession.  If you’ve poked around YouTube for backpacking, you’ve no doubt seen his videos a time or two.  He’s grown a massive following and for good reason - he’s just a great guy.  Dan is genuine, sincere, funny, and just loves to backpack.  I didn’t know much about him before we spoke, but sincerely enjoyed getting to know him and now have a fond appreciation for what he’s been able to accomplish.

We cover a ton of ground in this episode, including everything from Wisconsin backpacking culture and learning how to find your own style of backpacking, to starting a YouTube channel and making it a real career.  One of the things I find fascinating about Dan’s approach to making backpacking a “career” is that he looks at it like a business and a hobby.  He’s been able to separate the two things, but also fuse them together which is really hard to do.  Dan has used backpacking to create a business and business to create more backpacking adventures and I think a lot of outdoor creators can learn a thing or two from him. I mean, the guy has a family and goes backpacking for a living.

I have no doubt you’ll enjoy getting to know Dan as much as I did.


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]]> Dan Becker is a backpacker from Wisconsin who turned his passion into his full-time profession.  If you’ve poked around YouTube for backpacking, you’ve no doubt seen his videos a time or two.  He’s grown a massive following and for good reason - he’s just a great guy.  Dan is genuine, sincere, funny, and just loves to backpack.  I didn’t know much about him before we spoke, but sincerely enjoyed getting to know him and now have a fond appreciation for what he’s been able to accomplish.

We cover a ton of ground in this episode, including everything from Wisconsin backpacking culture and learning how to find your own style of backpacking, to starting a YouTube channel and making it a real career.  One of the things I find fascinating about Dan’s approach to making backpacking a “career” is that he looks at it like a business and a hobby.  He’s been able to separate the two things, but also fuse them together which is really hard to do.  Dan has used backpacking to create a business and business to create more backpacking adventures and I think a lot of outdoor creators can learn a thing or two from him. I mean, the guy has a family and goes backpacking for a living.

I have no doubt you’ll enjoy getting to know Dan as much as I did.


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]]> Buzzsprout-12479914 Mon, 27 Mar 2023 00:00:00 -0700 3881 155 full false #154 - Thru-Hiking France with Thomas Bouïssaguet of Hexatrek #154 - Thru-Hiking France with Thomas Bouïssaguet of Hexatrek The Hexatrek is a 3000 km long-distance trail across France that begins at the border of Germany, traverses the Pyrenees Mountains, and ends at the Bay of Biscay.  Thomas works for the Hexatrek organization and spent the summer and fall of 2022 hiking and documenting the trail.  

Thomas is able to recognize the realities of hiking a long and share all sides of that reality.  He can describe the trail as an epic adventure that includes vineyards, castles, and mountains, but he’ll also tell you how mentally complacent you can become when one view blends into the next.

If you’re dreaming of backpacking through France one day, you’re going to love this episode.

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]]> The Hexatrek is a 3000 km long-distance trail across France that begins at the border of Germany, traverses the Pyrenees Mountains, and ends at the Bay of Biscay.  Thomas works for the Hexatrek organization and spent the summer and fall of 2022 hiking and documenting the trail.  

Thomas is able to recognize the realities of hiking a long and share all sides of that reality.  He can describe the trail as an epic adventure that includes vineyards, castles, and mountains, but he’ll also tell you how mentally complacent you can become when one view blends into the next.

If you’re dreaming of backpacking through France one day, you’re going to love this episode.

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]]> Emory Wanger 55faf2dde4b0ef3f50c609aa:59bee79cedaed881775f0903:63fe60101b6e70108940582f Wed, 08 Mar 2023 07:35:00 -0800 5005 154 full false #153 - Hard-won Insights with Andrew Skurka #153 - Hard-won Insights with Andrew Skurka Andrew Skurka is known throughout the backpacking industry as someone who knows what they’re talking about when it comes to spending time in the backcountry.  He was thru-hiking before it became popular and has hiked well over 20,000 miles across both long and short expeditions.  Andrew now operates a backpacking guide service. 

Andrew is a wealth of knowledge for all things backpacking but also has great insight into the mindset the backcountry requires.

If you enjoy learning from the best, this episode will not disappoint.  

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  • How Andrew Skurka got into thru-hiking
  • How far backpacking has come since the early days
  • Hiking the AT in the early days
  • The benefit of uninterrupted long-duration hikes/adventures
  • The importance of having an “end” to an expedition or experience
  • On being goal-oriented rather than “wandering”
  • How Andrew got into being a backpacking guide
  •  mindset from a guide to teacher
  • Learning to slow down
  • Learning to navigate groups and personalities
  • High Routes explained 
  • How Andrew got into high routes
  • The natural progression of outdoor exploration
  • Plans for future expeditions
  • Andrews backpacking advice 
  • Andrews favorite gear 
  • Thoughts on synthetic or natural fibers 
  • How to followup with Andrew Skurka
  • Website: https://andrewskurka.com/
  • Guided Trips: https://andrewskurka.com/guided-trips/


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]]> Andrew Skurka is known throughout the backpacking industry as someone who knows what they’re talking about when it comes to spending time in the backcountry.  He was thru-hiking before it became popular and has hiked well over 20,000 miles across both long and short expeditions.  Andrew now operates a backpacking guide service. 

Andrew is a wealth of knowledge for all things backpacking but also has great insight into the mindset the backcountry requires.

If you enjoy learning from the best, this episode will not disappoint.  

Show Notes and Links

  • How Andrew Skurka got into thru-hiking
  • How far backpacking has come since the early days
  • Hiking the AT in the early days
  • The benefit of uninterrupted long-duration hikes/adventures
  • The importance of having an “end” to an expedition or experience
  • On being goal-oriented rather than “wandering”
  • How Andrew got into being a backpacking guide
  •  mindset from a guide to teacher
  • Learning to slow down
  • Learning to navigate groups and personalities
  • High Routes explained 
  • How Andrew got into high routes
  • The natural progression of outdoor exploration
  • Plans for future expeditions
  • Andrews backpacking advice 
  • Andrews favorite gear 
  • Thoughts on synthetic or natural fibers 
  • How to followup with Andrew Skurka
  • Website: https://andrewskurka.com/
  • Guided Trips: https://andrewskurka.com/guided-trips/


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]]> Emory R. Wanger 55faf2dde4b0ef3f50c609aa:59bee79cedaed881775f0903:63e6b9232b349f74628b7570 Mon, 13 Feb 2023 00:00:00 -0800 4866 153 full false #152 Creating An Outdoor Family Lifestyle with Katie O’mara of Trail Magik #152 Creating An Outdoor Family Lifestyle with Katie O’mara of Trail Magik Katie O’mara is the driving force behind Trail Magik, an outdoor brand whose mission is to make hiking and backpacking with toddlers efficient and more enjoyable.  Once kids grow out of their backpack-style carriers, parents are forced into deciding how far their little ones can hike before needing to be picked up, but oftentimes riding in a backpack is too much trouble because all the toddler really needs is a small break from walking.  That’s where Trail Magik comes in.

Katie is the best.  She has a heart of gold and sincerely cares about her community.  From the struggles of owning a small business to the ups and downs of being an outdoor family, we cover all of it in this episode and I came away from our conversation feeling inspired and encouraged.

For those out there with young families trying to figure this whole thing out, I think this episode will be a bright spot in your day.  It’s conversations like this one that keeps me going and I’m glad that people like Katie are out there encouraging others to be adventurous with their families.

If you’re interested in picking up a carrier of your own or for someone else, you can use the code BYLAND to save 10% off at www.trailmagik.com.

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  • The Trail Magik origin story
  • Why the carrier works for walking toddlers
  • Entrepreneurial life
  • Learning to get outdoors with kids
  • Preparing for new outdoor adventures
  • What it’s like putting a product into the world
  • The importance of being yourself
  • Feeling the pressure to adventure
  • Do what you WANT to do out there
  • Defining an “outdoor” family
  • Growing up in the outdoors
  • Why parents feel the pull to bring their kids outside
  • Creating an outdoor lifestyle
  • Biggest barriers for parents and kids in the outdoors
  • Learning to enjoy the hiking parts of backpacking
  • Katie’s closing thoughts
  • How to followup with Katie and Trail Magik
  • www.trailmagik.com
  • Instagram
  • YouTube

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]]> Katie O’mara is the driving force behind Trail Magik, an outdoor brand whose mission is to make hiking and backpacking with toddlers efficient and more enjoyable.  Once kids grow out of their backpack-style carriers, parents are forced into deciding how far their little ones can hike before needing to be picked up, but oftentimes riding in a backpack is too much trouble because all the toddler really needs is a small break from walking.  That’s where Trail Magik comes in.

Katie is the best.  She has a heart of gold and sincerely cares about her community.  From the struggles of owning a small business to the ups and downs of being an outdoor family, we cover all of it in this episode and I came away from our conversation feeling inspired and encouraged.

For those out there with young families trying to figure this whole thing out, I think this episode will be a bright spot in your day.  It’s conversations like this one that keeps me going and I’m glad that people like Katie are out there encouraging others to be adventurous with their families.

If you’re interested in picking up a carrier of your own or for someone else, you can use the code BYLAND to save 10% off at www.trailmagik.com.

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  • The Trail Magik origin story
  • Why the carrier works for walking toddlers
  • Entrepreneurial life
  • Learning to get outdoors with kids
  • Preparing for new outdoor adventures
  • What it’s like putting a product into the world
  • The importance of being yourself
  • Feeling the pressure to adventure
  • Do what you WANT to do out there
  • Defining an “outdoor” family
  • Growing up in the outdoors
  • Why parents feel the pull to bring their kids outside
  • Creating an outdoor lifestyle
  • Biggest barriers for parents and kids in the outdoors
  • Learning to enjoy the hiking parts of backpacking
  • Katie’s closing thoughts
  • How to followup with Katie and Trail Magik
  • www.trailmagik.com
  • Instagram
  • YouTube

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]]> Emory Wanger 55faf2dde4b0ef3f50c609aa:59bee79cedaed881775f0903:63bdf9e130297856bec61343 Wed, 18 Jan 2023 00:00:00 -0800 4642 152 full false #151 - All Humans Outside with Tommy Corey #151 - All Humans Outside with Tommy Corey Tommy Corey’s eye for outdoor portrait photography landed him front and center in the hiking community during his 2018 PCT thru-hike when he began posting fashion-esque portraits of fellow thru-hikers under the project name “Hiker Trash Vogue.”  The photo project captured the attention of major outdoor brands and was even featured in Outside Online.  Tommy received high accolades for his work, but it was also pointed out that his subjects did not represent a range of diverse backgrounds in the outdoors.  

This podcast episode is a conversation between myself and Tommy about his CDT realizations, his upcoming project, and what “diversity” and “inclusion” really mean in the outdoors.  This is a topic I often find to be tough to nail down at times, not to mention for some, emotionally charged.  Those terms along with ones like “community” are thrown around like candy these days and I find myself sincerely wondering where it all leads and how to approach it.  

Conversations like this one aren’t meant to solve problems.  They’re meant to discuss them and gain perspective which is exactly what I personally achieved.  

Please enjoy this episode with Tommy Corey.

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  • Catching up with Tommy after Hiker Trash Vogue
  • What happened on the CDT in 2022
  • What Tommy was seeing and NOT seeing on the trail
  • The creative process on the trail  
  • The idea of thru-hikes as a Pilgrimage
  • What the PCT meant to Tommy
  • Tommy’s new BIG project
  • Understanding what diversity and inclusion actually mean
  • Tommy’s creative process 
  • What diversity and inclusion means
  • Thoughts on what “community” is
  • Takeaways from Tommy’s interviews
  • Taking on such a big photo project 
  • Experiencing how others enjoy the outdoors
  • Understanding the “why” behind your actions
  • Details on the release dates of the photo book 
  • How to follow the project
  • tommycoreyphoto.com
  • All Humans Outside on Instagram

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]]> Tommy Corey’s eye for outdoor portrait photography landed him front and center in the hiking community during his 2018 PCT thru-hike when he began posting fashion-esque portraits of fellow thru-hikers under the project name “Hiker Trash Vogue.”  The photo project captured the attention of major outdoor brands and was even featured in Outside Online.  Tommy received high accolades for his work, but it was also pointed out that his subjects did not represent a range of diverse backgrounds in the outdoors.  

This podcast episode is a conversation between myself and Tommy about his CDT realizations, his upcoming project, and what “diversity” and “inclusion” really mean in the outdoors.  This is a topic I often find to be tough to nail down at times, not to mention for some, emotionally charged.  Those terms along with ones like “community” are thrown around like candy these days and I find myself sincerely wondering where it all leads and how to approach it.  

Conversations like this one aren’t meant to solve problems.  They’re meant to discuss them and gain perspective which is exactly what I personally achieved.  

Please enjoy this episode with Tommy Corey.

Show Notes and Links

  • Catching up with Tommy after Hiker Trash Vogue
  • What happened on the CDT in 2022
  • What Tommy was seeing and NOT seeing on the trail
  • The creative process on the trail  
  • The idea of thru-hikes as a Pilgrimage
  • What the PCT meant to Tommy
  • Tommy’s new BIG project
  • Understanding what diversity and inclusion actually mean
  • Tommy’s creative process 
  • What diversity and inclusion means
  • Thoughts on what “community” is
  • Takeaways from Tommy’s interviews
  • Taking on such a big photo project 
  • Experiencing how others enjoy the outdoors
  • Understanding the “why” behind your actions
  • Details on the release dates of the photo book 
  • How to follow the project
  • tommycoreyphoto.com
  • All Humans Outside on Instagram

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]]> Emory Wanger 55faf2dde4b0ef3f50c609aa:59bee79cedaed881775f0903:63a34aebfad1205e23c8ff5f Wed, 21 Dec 2022 00:00:00 -0800 4963 151 full true #150 - Backpacking 1300 Miles of the PCT with 3 Kids with David Daley #150 - Backpacking 1300 Miles of the PCT with 3 Kids with David Daley This is the second part of a two-part mini-series with Marketa and David Daley who in 2022 hiked 1300 miles of the Pacific Crest Trail with their 3 young kids.  David and I dive into the more holistic side of hiking the trail and explore the meaning behind the struggle and process of a thru-hike.  For anyone who enjoys the non-technical side of a thru-hiking discussion, you’ll enjoy this, especially if you’re a parent yourself.

David and I dive into what it was like to hike as Father on the PCT, how hard it was to learn to hike as slow as a child, and the spiritual connection we feel toward wild spaces.  A thru-hike is a difficult thing to process and it was great to have the chance to explore the experience with David so soon after the end of his hike.  

Show Notes

  • Digesting the trail
  • The importance of immersing yourself in the wilderness
  • Thoughts on possible long-term effects of thru-hiking with kids (hopes versus reality)
  • Experiencing the PCT as a Dad  
  • Parental roles and responsibilities on the trail 
  • Holding hands for 500 miles then letting go…
  • Learning to hike all-day
  • What it’s like hiking at a child’s pace
  • Reasons behind the hike   
  • The spiritual connection to wild spaces
  • Is life balance possible?
  • The willingness to easily find excuses not to do something 
  • Imagining life without the PCT 
  • Understanding why you hike
  • Breakthrough moments on the trail
  • Reflecting on relationships with fellow hikers
  • The importance of community
  • Final thoughts
  • https://www.instagram.com/daleywalk


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]]> This is the second part of a two-part mini-series with Marketa and David Daley who in 2022 hiked 1300 miles of the Pacific Crest Trail with their 3 young kids.  David and I dive into the more holistic side of hiking the trail and explore the meaning behind the struggle and process of a thru-hike.  For anyone who enjoys the non-technical side of a thru-hiking discussion, you’ll enjoy this, especially if you’re a parent yourself.

David and I dive into what it was like to hike as Father on the PCT, how hard it was to learn to hike as slow as a child, and the spiritual connection we feel toward wild spaces.  A thru-hike is a difficult thing to process and it was great to have the chance to explore the experience with David so soon after the end of his hike.  

Show Notes

  • Digesting the trail
  • The importance of immersing yourself in the wilderness
  • Thoughts on possible long-term effects of thru-hiking with kids (hopes versus reality)
  • Experiencing the PCT as a Dad  
  • Parental roles and responsibilities on the trail 
  • Holding hands for 500 miles then letting go…
  • Learning to hike all-day
  • What it’s like hiking at a child’s pace
  • Reasons behind the hike   
  • The spiritual connection to wild spaces
  • Is life balance possible?
  • The willingness to easily find excuses not to do something 
  • Imagining life without the PCT 
  • Understanding why you hike
  • Breakthrough moments on the trail
  • Reflecting on relationships with fellow hikers
  • The importance of community
  • Final thoughts
  • https://www.instagram.com/daleywalk


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]]> Emory Wanger 55faf2dde4b0ef3f50c609aa:59bee79cedaed881775f0903:6344a090108b4637e2995491 Tue, 18 Oct 2022 00:00:00 -0700 3872 150 full false #149 - Backpacking 1300 Miles of the PCT with 3 Kids with Marketa Daley #149 - Backpacking 1300 Miles of the PCT with 3 Kids with Marketa Daley Marketa and David Daley backpacked 1300 miles of the Pacific Crest Trail in 2022 with their 3 kids and proved to themselves that yes, it was possible to hike the PCT as a family.  At times they moved at a snail's pace, questioned their own sanity, and were forced to find creative ways to motivate their kids to continue moving down the trail.  Together as a family, they experienced the highs and lows of trail life, strengthened their family bonds, and in the end, found what they were looking for.  

This is part 1 of a 2 part episode series where I interview Marketa and David separately to learn about them as people, their background, their motivations, and finally their hiking story.  

I’m sincerely honored and humbled to have them on this podcast and grateful that they’re willing to share their experiences in such a real and transparent way.   

Show Notes

  • Introductions
  • Initial expectations for the PCT
  • Emory’s internal conflict with kids on long trails
  • How Marketa and her family decided to hike  
  • Maketa’s personal outdoor backstory 
  • Previous hikes with kids leading up to the PCT
  • Why the PCT was so daunting as a hike  
  • How the kids transitioned to the trail
  • The first 20 miles
  • Anticipating the struggle of a thru-hike with kids
  • How parenting changed on the PCT
  • How outdoor activities changed with more kids
  • How to break the barriers and remove excuses
  • Lessons learned with gear
  • Choosing kid’s clothes for backpacking
  • The importance of just starting
  • Motivating kids to keep moving
  • How parenting on the trail differs from parenting on the trail 
  • How the trail bonded the kids
  • The transition from trail to home
  • Audience question: Thoughts and advice for taking a 4-year-old hiking and backpacking as a single parent
  • How to follow up with Marketa 
  • https://www.instagram.com/daleywalk

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]]> Marketa and David Daley backpacked 1300 miles of the Pacific Crest Trail in 2022 with their 3 kids and proved to themselves that yes, it was possible to hike the PCT as a family.  At times they moved at a snail's pace, questioned their own sanity, and were forced to find creative ways to motivate their kids to continue moving down the trail.  Together as a family, they experienced the highs and lows of trail life, strengthened their family bonds, and in the end, found what they were looking for.  

This is part 1 of a 2 part episode series where I interview Marketa and David separately to learn about them as people, their background, their motivations, and finally their hiking story.  

I’m sincerely honored and humbled to have them on this podcast and grateful that they’re willing to share their experiences in such a real and transparent way.   

Show Notes

  • Introductions
  • Initial expectations for the PCT
  • Emory’s internal conflict with kids on long trails
  • How Marketa and her family decided to hike  
  • Maketa’s personal outdoor backstory 
  • Previous hikes with kids leading up to the PCT
  • Why the PCT was so daunting as a hike  
  • How the kids transitioned to the trail
  • The first 20 miles
  • Anticipating the struggle of a thru-hike with kids
  • How parenting changed on the PCT
  • How outdoor activities changed with more kids
  • How to break the barriers and remove excuses
  • Lessons learned with gear
  • Choosing kid’s clothes for backpacking
  • The importance of just starting
  • Motivating kids to keep moving
  • How parenting on the trail differs from parenting on the trail 
  • How the trail bonded the kids
  • The transition from trail to home
  • Audience question: Thoughts and advice for taking a 4-year-old hiking and backpacking as a single parent
  • How to follow up with Marketa 
  • https://www.instagram.com/daleywalk

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]]> Emory Wanger 55faf2dde4b0ef3f50c609aa:59bee79cedaed881775f0903:63223e3c4a3cfe1ad272e702 Mon, 19 Sep 2022 00:00:00 -0700 4352 149 full false #148 - Wildfire Basics and Forest Management with Evan Guzik of the USFS #148 - Wildfire Basics and Forest Management with Evan Guzik of the USFS Evan Guzik is a Public Affairs Officer for the US Forest Service out of the Bridger Teton Forest and joins the podcast to walk me through the basics of wildfires.  Not only am I honored to have the US Forest Service represented on my show, but it’s made even more special because Evan and I served together in the Marine Corps nearly 20 years ago.  

We cover what prescribed burns are and why they’re useful, how fires are managed from beginning to end, what to do if you see a fire or you’re around one when you’re hiking or backpacking, and how to handle yourself in an area after a burn.  

There’s a lot of great stuff in this episode that to me is really helpful and I think you’re going to really enjoy it.  Just the fact that I now know more about what goes on in our forests is huge because I figure the more I know, the better a steward I can be out there.

If you want to learn more about wildfires, Evan provided some links that I’ve listed in the show notes so be sure to check those out when you have a chance.  Again, this episode is really special to me so thanks to Evan for doing the legwork to make this happen, and thanks to the US Forest Service for being willing to put this out there!

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]]> Evan Guzik is a Public Affairs Officer for the US Forest Service out of the Bridger Teton Forest and joins the podcast to walk me through the basics of wildfires.  Not only am I honored to have the US Forest Service represented on my show, but it’s made even more special because Evan and I served together in the Marine Corps nearly 20 years ago.  

We cover what prescribed burns are and why they’re useful, how fires are managed from beginning to end, what to do if you see a fire or you’re around one when you’re hiking or backpacking, and how to handle yourself in an area after a burn.  

There’s a lot of great stuff in this episode that to me is really helpful and I think you’re going to really enjoy it.  Just the fact that I now know more about what goes on in our forests is huge because I figure the more I know, the better a steward I can be out there.

If you want to learn more about wildfires, Evan provided some links that I’ve listed in the show notes so be sure to check those out when you have a chance.  Again, this episode is really special to me so thanks to Evan for doing the legwork to make this happen, and thanks to the US Forest Service for being willing to put this out there!

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]]> Emory R. Wanger 55faf2dde4b0ef3f50c609aa:59bee79cedaed881775f0903:62c70b0f2389a85b44f691cc Wed, 31 Aug 2022 10:10:39 -0700 4535 148 full false #147 - The Quest: Nepal and the Summit of Everest with Alex Harz #147 - The Quest: Nepal and the Summit of Everest with Alex Harz Alex Harz is a man of many talents.  He’s a filmmaker, mountaineer, and even a radio host, but for the purpose of this episode we’re diving into his Mount Everest Expedition and the film he’s produced about it called “The Quest: Nepal.”

Alex might be the physical vehicle for the telling of a story or the driving force behind it, but when you watch this film, you’ll learn quickly that while he does have a personal reason for being there and climbing, he also knows that without the culture and its people, there would be no climb in the first place.

I absolutely loved getting to know Alex and picking his brain about this project he’s in the middle of because he was willing to tell his version of the story in a raw and honest way.  Sure it’s Everest and it’s obviously epic in its own right, but there’s so much more to it than that, which is what we get into in this episode of the podcast.

Please go watch and support Alex’s film and what he’s doing!

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]]> Alex Harz is a man of many talents.  He’s a filmmaker, mountaineer, and even a radio host, but for the purpose of this episode we’re diving into his Mount Everest Expedition and the film he’s produced about it called “The Quest: Nepal.”

Alex might be the physical vehicle for the telling of a story or the driving force behind it, but when you watch this film, you’ll learn quickly that while he does have a personal reason for being there and climbing, he also knows that without the culture and its people, there would be no climb in the first place.

I absolutely loved getting to know Alex and picking his brain about this project he’s in the middle of because he was willing to tell his version of the story in a raw and honest way.  Sure it’s Everest and it’s obviously epic in its own right, but there’s so much more to it than that, which is what we get into in this episode of the podcast.

Please go watch and support Alex’s film and what he’s doing!

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]]> Emory R. Wanger 55faf2dde4b0ef3f50c609aa:59bee79cedaed881775f0903:62b4f07da640076f76abaf5f Tue, 28 Jun 2022 08:00:00 -0700 4428 147 full false #146 - Canoe Camping 101 with Old Town Canoes #146 - Canoe Camping 101 with Old Town Canoes You might be wondering what canoe camping and backpacking have in common and why I’d be covering this on a “backpacking” podcast so to answer that question outright - they have ALOT in common.  You’re required to plan, pack, stabilize a load, and bring what you need to get the job done safely and efficiently.  Some canoe trips might be a day or two while others could last months on end if you’re on a large expedition.  

Canoes have been around since the dawn of time and it’s a hobby I’ve always wanted to get into, but never knew where to begin so I decided to reach out to Old Town Canoes to see if they’d give me a crash course on canoeing.  They put me in touch with Ryan Lilly and the rest is history.

Ryan Lilly works for Old Town, lives in Maine, and knows both backpacking and canoeing.  He walks me through the basics of canoeing like how to choose a boat, materials, styles, and what a typical canoe camping loadout might look like.  He does a great job of breaking everything down and uncomplicating a somewhat confusing topic (at least for me).

I firmly believe that by exploring other outdoor activities, you can get better at your own.  Cross-pollinating skill sets is the only way to grow and expand your understanding of how everything works and this episode is a great example of that.  The outdoors has endless possibilities and who knows, maybe after this one, you’ll take interest in canoeing.  At the very least, you’ll know the basics.

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]]> You might be wondering what canoe camping and backpacking have in common and why I’d be covering this on a “backpacking” podcast so to answer that question outright - they have ALOT in common.  You’re required to plan, pack, stabilize a load, and bring what you need to get the job done safely and efficiently.  Some canoe trips might be a day or two while others could last months on end if you’re on a large expedition.  

Canoes have been around since the dawn of time and it’s a hobby I’ve always wanted to get into, but never knew where to begin so I decided to reach out to Old Town Canoes to see if they’d give me a crash course on canoeing.  They put me in touch with Ryan Lilly and the rest is history.

Ryan Lilly works for Old Town, lives in Maine, and knows both backpacking and canoeing.  He walks me through the basics of canoeing like how to choose a boat, materials, styles, and what a typical canoe camping loadout might look like.  He does a great job of breaking everything down and uncomplicating a somewhat confusing topic (at least for me).

I firmly believe that by exploring other outdoor activities, you can get better at your own.  Cross-pollinating skill sets is the only way to grow and expand your understanding of how everything works and this episode is a great example of that.  The outdoors has endless possibilities and who knows, maybe after this one, you’ll take interest in canoeing.  At the very least, you’ll know the basics.

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]]> Emory R. Wanger 55faf2dde4b0ef3f50c609aa:59bee79cedaed881775f0903:62a0d6d5b7123f565d577026 Tue, 14 Jun 2022 15:41:07 -0700 3355 146 full false #145 - Ultra-Right Backpacking with Paul McTaggart #145 - Ultra-Right Backpacking with Paul McTaggart Paul McTaggart is a family man and backpacker out of New Zealand who in recent years reignited his passion for the outdoors.  He and I have been exchanging emails back and forth for some time now and I thought it was time we sit down for a real and open-ended conversation about backpacking.  

This is the very first episode of the By Land Podcast where I bring you the audience member, and in this case Paul, on the show for a conversation for no other reason than to get to know one another.  I consider all of you guys a friend so I figure why not start to get to know you?  

This episode with Paul is incredible and he lays out an amazing framework for how he plans for his backpacking trips.  We talk about his background and younger years, his time spent hiking to Annapurna Base Camp, and getting to know backpacking again after years away. Finally, we cover why it’s so important to do what’s right for you and your situation in the backcountry (aka the ultra-right backpacking reference).

I absolutely loved this conversation with Paul and cannot wait to bring more audience members on the show to get to know them, and their stories, and glean what I can from their experiences so we can all learn together.

Here’s a link to Paul's amazing article and planning process.  Click HERE.

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  • Introductions 
  • Paul’s backstory
  • Paul’s Annapurna base camp hike
  • Paul’s approach to journaling
  • On getting back into backpacking after years away
  • Parenting and getting kids outdoors at a young age
  • Advice for getting started again
  • How Paul plans his trips (AMAZING structure!)
  • The ultra-right backpacking philosophy 
  • Tent choice/design discussion
  • Food and nutrition lessons learned
  • Planning for the team, not the dream
  • Estimating travel time
  • Pauls article and planning process: https://byland.co/blog/planning-for-backpacking-applying-good-practice-principles-from-military-planning


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]]> Paul McTaggart is a family man and backpacker out of New Zealand who in recent years reignited his passion for the outdoors.  He and I have been exchanging emails back and forth for some time now and I thought it was time we sit down for a real and open-ended conversation about backpacking.  

This is the very first episode of the By Land Podcast where I bring you the audience member, and in this case Paul, on the show for a conversation for no other reason than to get to know one another.  I consider all of you guys a friend so I figure why not start to get to know you?  

This episode with Paul is incredible and he lays out an amazing framework for how he plans for his backpacking trips.  We talk about his background and younger years, his time spent hiking to Annapurna Base Camp, and getting to know backpacking again after years away. Finally, we cover why it’s so important to do what’s right for you and your situation in the backcountry (aka the ultra-right backpacking reference).

I absolutely loved this conversation with Paul and cannot wait to bring more audience members on the show to get to know them, and their stories, and glean what I can from their experiences so we can all learn together.

Here’s a link to Paul's amazing article and planning process.  Click HERE.

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  • Introductions 
  • Paul’s backstory
  • Paul’s Annapurna base camp hike
  • Paul’s approach to journaling
  • On getting back into backpacking after years away
  • Parenting and getting kids outdoors at a young age
  • Advice for getting started again
  • How Paul plans his trips (AMAZING structure!)
  • The ultra-right backpacking philosophy 
  • Tent choice/design discussion
  • Food and nutrition lessons learned
  • Planning for the team, not the dream
  • Estimating travel time
  • Pauls article and planning process: https://byland.co/blog/planning-for-backpacking-applying-good-practice-principles-from-military-planning


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]]> Emory Wanger 55faf2dde4b0ef3f50c609aa:59bee79cedaed881775f0903:6285681cbf990c6b8c9a28fe Mon, 30 May 2022 00:00:00 -0700 5892 145 full false #144 - The Modern West with Melodie Edwards #144 - The Modern West with Melodie Edwards Melodie Edwards is the host and senior producer of the Modern West Podcast which dives into the history of the west, and how it’s shaped our landscapes and modern culture while digging up little-known facts about the past.  The show is produced for Wyoming Public Media  (aka the state’s NPR station) which is now going into its 5th season so for me, it was great to connect with someone who is doing some really great work out there.  Being a podcast producer isn’t the only thing Melodie is though.  She’s a bookstore owner and writer, all of which we get into in this episode.

Melodie is on the show to explore this weird crossroad between the past and the present regarding how we as backpackers and hikers interact with the landscape.  For example, for anyone who isn’t from the west, or specifically the Montana/Wyoming area, there are a lot of really large ranches in some very beautiful places and those ranches often graze cattle on land that you and I might hike through.  So, you could be hiking along and bump into a cow or two, OR maybe you can’t access certain areas because it’s a private ranch.

As the producer of the Modern West Podcast and doing her investigative work on topics like this, Melodie is joining the show to help enlighten or educate me (us), on where we’ve come from, where we are, and where we’re going.  This podcast isn’t always about something clearly related to backpacking.  I’d miss out on opportunities like this one to further educate myself on things like land access and the modernization of the west.  To me, it’s conversations like this one that allows me to look at things through a different lens so that when I’m out there enjoying myself, I know what the heck I’m benefitting from or how it even came to be.

As I said, it’s a lot and Melodie is here to help me begin to sort it all out.


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  • Melodie’s background
  • The history of the cowboy in the west
  • The impact that cattle ranchers have had on the landscape
  • How we got to where we are today with the modern landscapes
  • How cattle did on the landscape
  • Finding a balance
  • Finding common ground
  • Closing thoughts

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]]> Melodie Edwards is the host and senior producer of the Modern West Podcast which dives into the history of the west, and how it’s shaped our landscapes and modern culture while digging up little-known facts about the past.  The show is produced for Wyoming Public Media  (aka the state’s NPR station) which is now going into its 5th season so for me, it was great to connect with someone who is doing some really great work out there.  Being a podcast producer isn’t the only thing Melodie is though.  She’s a bookstore owner and writer, all of which we get into in this episode.

Melodie is on the show to explore this weird crossroad between the past and the present regarding how we as backpackers and hikers interact with the landscape.  For example, for anyone who isn’t from the west, or specifically the Montana/Wyoming area, there are a lot of really large ranches in some very beautiful places and those ranches often graze cattle on land that you and I might hike through.  So, you could be hiking along and bump into a cow or two, OR maybe you can’t access certain areas because it’s a private ranch.

As the producer of the Modern West Podcast and doing her investigative work on topics like this, Melodie is joining the show to help enlighten or educate me (us), on where we’ve come from, where we are, and where we’re going.  This podcast isn’t always about something clearly related to backpacking.  I’d miss out on opportunities like this one to further educate myself on things like land access and the modernization of the west.  To me, it’s conversations like this one that allows me to look at things through a different lens so that when I’m out there enjoying myself, I know what the heck I’m benefitting from or how it even came to be.

As I said, it’s a lot and Melodie is here to help me begin to sort it all out.


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  • Melodie’s background
  • The history of the cowboy in the west
  • The impact that cattle ranchers have had on the landscape
  • How we got to where we are today with the modern landscapes
  • How cattle did on the landscape
  • Finding a balance
  • Finding common ground
  • Closing thoughts

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]]> Emory Wanger 55faf2dde4b0ef3f50c609aa:59bee79cedaed881775f0903:6086e74346c4cb5458a6402e Mon, 16 May 2022 00:00:00 -0700 4544 144 full false #143 - The Perfect Trees with Hammock Gear #143 - The Perfect Trees with Hammock Gear Hammock Gear is one of the original cottage companies in the ultralight backpacking space.  When I was just getting into backpacking, it was Hammock Gear that was prolific in the search engines and forums when it came to ultralight quilts.  Having such a prolific and respectable brand represented on the podcast is both honoring and humbling to me.

Adam and Sally from Hammock Gear join the By Land Podcast to talk about the origins of the company, why and how Adam started it in the first place, and to offer some advice to those looking to make the jump to a hammock setup.  

This is one of my favorite kinds of episodes because you’ll actually get to know the people behind the brand which I think is really important, especially these days with so many great options on the market.  It was refreshing to have such a great conversation with a brand that so many people look up to and I have no doubt you’ll enjoy this one.

As a special offer to listeners, Hammock Gear is offering a 5% site-wide discount code to new customers.  If you’d like to take advantage of that offer, use code ByLand5 at checkout

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]]> Hammock Gear is one of the original cottage companies in the ultralight backpacking space.  When I was just getting into backpacking, it was Hammock Gear that was prolific in the search engines and forums when it came to ultralight quilts.  Having such a prolific and respectable brand represented on the podcast is both honoring and humbling to me.

Adam and Sally from Hammock Gear join the By Land Podcast to talk about the origins of the company, why and how Adam started it in the first place, and to offer some advice to those looking to make the jump to a hammock setup.  

This is one of my favorite kinds of episodes because you’ll actually get to know the people behind the brand which I think is really important, especially these days with so many great options on the market.  It was refreshing to have such a great conversation with a brand that so many people look up to and I have no doubt you’ll enjoy this one.

As a special offer to listeners, Hammock Gear is offering a 5% site-wide discount code to new customers.  If you’d like to take advantage of that offer, use code ByLand5 at checkout

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]]> Emory Wanger 55faf2dde4b0ef3f50c609aa:59bee79cedaed881775f0903:62570cf6d8478943f68d18f8 Mon, 02 May 2022 00:00:00 -0700 3865 143 full false # 142 - Tip To Tip With the Hiking Viking # 142 - Tip To Tip With the Hiking Viking The REAL Hiking Viking, aka Jabba, joins the podcast to talk about his upcoming hike up the Continental Divide Trail, life before backpacking, and the importance of doing what makes you happy in life.  I’ve known Jabba for a while now and bumped into him a few places, but this is the first time we’ve had a chance to sit down to have a conversation.  The last time we spoke, he introduced me to the magic that is double-stuffed Oreo and since that was pretty game-changing for me, I figured he probably had something else up his sleeves to share.  

As it turns out, he did.  This conversation isn’t about anything in particular, but it IS about a lot of things.  It’s about life as a “professional” backpacker, finding what gives you enjoyment and pursuing that, knowing where you’ve come from, and looking forward to where you’re going.

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]]> The REAL Hiking Viking, aka Jabba, joins the podcast to talk about his upcoming hike up the Continental Divide Trail, life before backpacking, and the importance of doing what makes you happy in life.  I’ve known Jabba for a while now and bumped into him a few places, but this is the first time we’ve had a chance to sit down to have a conversation.  The last time we spoke, he introduced me to the magic that is double-stuffed Oreo and since that was pretty game-changing for me, I figured he probably had something else up his sleeves to share.  

As it turns out, he did.  This conversation isn’t about anything in particular, but it IS about a lot of things.  It’s about life as a “professional” backpacker, finding what gives you enjoyment and pursuing that, knowing where you’ve come from, and looking forward to where you’re going.

Emory, By Land

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]]> Emory Wanger 55faf2dde4b0ef3f50c609aa:59bee79cedaed881775f0903:62570cd3377b342c4eab0d7a Thu, 21 Apr 2022 00:00:00 -0700 4678 142 full true #141 - Backpacking and Dogs with Bailey Bremner #141 - Backpacking and Dogs with Bailey Bremner Backpacking with dogs is something I think most of us dream of doing, but for Bailey Bremner, it’s a reality.  Bailey is not only an accomplished backpacker and thru-hiker in her own right, but her dogs are too.  Prima and Skittles have likely hiked more miles than most, and between the 3 of them, they’ve hiked thousands of miles along some of the most beautiful trails in the United States.  

Sometimes we tend to overcomplicate things while at the same time underestimating what is actually involved in an activity.  Bailey joins the podcast to walk through her experiences backpacking and hiking with her dogs, and lessons learned along the way and offers some sound guidance and advice to those wanting to do the same.  

Anyone looking to get out there with their furry friends will no doubt come away from this episode with a pile of knowledge and with any luck, just as much encouragement.

Go check out Bailey’s adventures and enjoy this episode!


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]]> Backpacking with dogs is something I think most of us dream of doing, but for Bailey Bremner, it’s a reality.  Bailey is not only an accomplished backpacker and thru-hiker in her own right, but her dogs are too.  Prima and Skittles have likely hiked more miles than most, and between the 3 of them, they’ve hiked thousands of miles along some of the most beautiful trails in the United States.  

Sometimes we tend to overcomplicate things while at the same time underestimating what is actually involved in an activity.  Bailey joins the podcast to walk through her experiences backpacking and hiking with her dogs, and lessons learned along the way and offers some sound guidance and advice to those wanting to do the same.  

Anyone looking to get out there with their furry friends will no doubt come away from this episode with a pile of knowledge and with any luck, just as much encouragement.

Go check out Bailey’s adventures and enjoy this episode!


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]]> Emory R. Wanger 55faf2dde4b0ef3f50c609aa:59bee79cedaed881775f0903:624f29599a08365d9414575c Mon, 11 Apr 2022 00:00:00 -0700 5376 141 full false #140 - Staying Connected with Dylan Tonkin of TownShirt #140 - Staying Connected with Dylan Tonkin of TownShirt Dylan Tonkin had the crazy idea to take the fun design of a lightweight Hawaiian shirt and marry it with a design that would remind thru-hikers of their favorite long-distance trail.  The result was “TownShirt” and it’s awesome.  

This is Dylan’s second time on the podcast and in the two-plus years that have passed since our last chat, a lot has changed.  Dylan is now married, has a kid, and has taken a fun little business concept and made it a reality with TownShirt.  Since that first episode, Dylan and I have stayed in touch so when he randomly sent me a picture of a thru-hiking-inspired hiking shirt he’d been working on, I about fell out of my chair.  I knew right away this was going to be something great.  

Over the next few months, Dylan and I talked about what TownShirt was about, how he could give back to the community that had given him so much, and how to go about building a business that reflected his personality and values and not what the outdoor industry says it should be.  Those were some of my favorite discussions and I told Dylan that when he was ready, he was welcome back on the show to talk about what he’s been up to.

That time is now and I couldn’t be more excited to put this episode together.  Dylan has become one of my favorite people because he’s just a genuine person that wants to put positivity out into the world, do the right thing, and make an impact.  This episode isn’t just about TownShirt, it’s about Dylan, it’s about community, and finding ways to stay connected to the community we love so much.

When you get a chance, please check out Townshirt.co and go give Dylan’s startup some love!

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  • Catching up with Dylan
  • The birth of Townshirt
  • The mission of Townshirt
  • On giving more than you take
  • How Townshirt is going to give back
  • Learning to not care what others are doing
  • Hiking trails in different ways
  • On the current thru-hiking culture 
  • How life has changed as a Dad 
  • The Townshirt collaboration with the PCTA
  • How to followup with Townshirt
  • https://www.townshirt.co/
  • https://www.instagram.com/townshirt.co

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]]> Dylan Tonkin had the crazy idea to take the fun design of a lightweight Hawaiian shirt and marry it with a design that would remind thru-hikers of their favorite long-distance trail.  The result was “TownShirt” and it’s awesome.  

This is Dylan’s second time on the podcast and in the two-plus years that have passed since our last chat, a lot has changed.  Dylan is now married, has a kid, and has taken a fun little business concept and made it a reality with TownShirt.  Since that first episode, Dylan and I have stayed in touch so when he randomly sent me a picture of a thru-hiking-inspired hiking shirt he’d been working on, I about fell out of my chair.  I knew right away this was going to be something great.  

Over the next few months, Dylan and I talked about what TownShirt was about, how he could give back to the community that had given him so much, and how to go about building a business that reflected his personality and values and not what the outdoor industry says it should be.  Those were some of my favorite discussions and I told Dylan that when he was ready, he was welcome back on the show to talk about what he’s been up to.

That time is now and I couldn’t be more excited to put this episode together.  Dylan has become one of my favorite people because he’s just a genuine person that wants to put positivity out into the world, do the right thing, and make an impact.  This episode isn’t just about TownShirt, it’s about Dylan, it’s about community, and finding ways to stay connected to the community we love so much.

When you get a chance, please check out Townshirt.co and go give Dylan’s startup some love!

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  • Catching up with Dylan
  • The birth of Townshirt
  • The mission of Townshirt
  • On giving more than you take
  • How Townshirt is going to give back
  • Learning to not care what others are doing
  • Hiking trails in different ways
  • On the current thru-hiking culture 
  • How life has changed as a Dad 
  • The Townshirt collaboration with the PCTA
  • How to followup with Townshirt
  • https://www.townshirt.co/
  • https://www.instagram.com/townshirt.co

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]]> Emory R. Wanger 55faf2dde4b0ef3f50c609aa:59bee79cedaed881775f0903:622a7717ee308661ab998c05 Mon, 04 Apr 2022 07:25:00 -0700 4816 140 full false #139 - The Human Nature of Hunting with Bruce McGlenn #139 - The Human Nature of Hunting with Bruce McGlenn Bruce McGlenn is the founder and lead instructor for Human Nature Hunting, a hunting school designed to teach newcomers, instill a connection to our past heritage, and create stewardship in the community by being an active participant in our ecosystem.  

For those who never grew up in a hunting family, getting into hunting can be a massive hurdle to overcome.  Between navigating regulations, gear, and acquiring the skills to not only pursue wild game but then care for it the right way, hunting can no doubt be overwhelming early on.  Traditionally, if you want to learn how to hunt, you’d either have to find someone who would teach you or go it alone and figure it out on your own, but Bruce has created a third option.  

For those on the fence about hunting, curious about the activity, but have nowhere to start, I think this interview with Bruce will be helpful.  His approach is sincere and genuine and I think there are a lot of people who could benefit from a mentor like Bruce.  His insight and ability to self-reflect are top-notch and it was a pleasure getting to know him on this episode.

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]]> Bruce McGlenn is the founder and lead instructor for Human Nature Hunting, a hunting school designed to teach newcomers, instill a connection to our past heritage, and create stewardship in the community by being an active participant in our ecosystem.  

For those who never grew up in a hunting family, getting into hunting can be a massive hurdle to overcome.  Between navigating regulations, gear, and acquiring the skills to not only pursue wild game but then care for it the right way, hunting can no doubt be overwhelming early on.  Traditionally, if you want to learn how to hunt, you’d either have to find someone who would teach you or go it alone and figure it out on your own, but Bruce has created a third option.  

For those on the fence about hunting, curious about the activity, but have nowhere to start, I think this interview with Bruce will be helpful.  His approach is sincere and genuine and I think there are a lot of people who could benefit from a mentor like Bruce.  His insight and ability to self-reflect are top-notch and it was a pleasure getting to know him on this episode.

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]]> Emory Wanger 55faf2dde4b0ef3f50c609aa:59bee79cedaed881775f0903:622a7705952de703de98f12e Mon, 28 Mar 2022 00:00:00 -0700 4684 139 full false #138 - The Fine Line Between Adventure and Danger with Moose Mutlow #138 - The Fine Line Between Adventure and Danger with Moose Mutlow Moose Mutlow is a member of the Yosemite Search and Rescue, the Senior Projects Director for planning, design, and construction of the National Environmental Science Center at Naturebridge in Yosemite National Park, and has spent a lifetime learning and teaching outdoor skills.  

As a member of SAR, Moose has seen a bad turn to worse and he believes there are things we can learn from these situations if we’re simply willing to stop talking and just listen.  As you’ll hear, Moose has a big heart for people.  He wants the very best for them and he wants to strengthen the outdoor community in any way possible.  

We also discuss the delicate balancing act between adventure and danger and the importance of recording personal stories and then TELLING those stories so that others may learn.

All in all, this is a wonderful chat with a really great person who I’m grateful to have on the show.  It was a pleasure getting to know Moose and I’m just glad to know there are people like him out there in the world trying to do good things.


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  • Introductions and background
  • Moose’s journey to the National Park Service
  • The problem with public shaming those who have made mistakes outdoors
  • How to approach the topic of bad decision making
  • Riding the line between adventure, risk, and safety
  • The importance of mentorship
  • The importance of storytelling to pass along lessons learned
  • How to properly learn from an emergency scenario
  • Compassion and humility in SAR
  • The ability to put yourself in someone else’s shoes
  • Why Moose has chosen SAR
  • How to deal with a rescue operation afterward
  • The importance of writing out experiences 
  • How to have an adventure
  • Yosemite Education Center
  • What we can do better in the next 100 years
  • How to follow up with Moose
  • https://www.moosemutlow.com/
  • https://www.instagram.com/moosemutlow
  • Searching: Finding purpose, laughter, and distraction through Search and Rescue https://amzn.to/3vU2dDJ
  • When Accidents Happen: Managing Crisis Communication as a Family Liaison Officer https://amzn.to/3tJ3w5G

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]]> Moose Mutlow is a member of the Yosemite Search and Rescue, the Senior Projects Director for planning, design, and construction of the National Environmental Science Center at Naturebridge in Yosemite National Park, and has spent a lifetime learning and teaching outdoor skills.  

As a member of SAR, Moose has seen a bad turn to worse and he believes there are things we can learn from these situations if we’re simply willing to stop talking and just listen.  As you’ll hear, Moose has a big heart for people.  He wants the very best for them and he wants to strengthen the outdoor community in any way possible.  

We also discuss the delicate balancing act between adventure and danger and the importance of recording personal stories and then TELLING those stories so that others may learn.

All in all, this is a wonderful chat with a really great person who I’m grateful to have on the show.  It was a pleasure getting to know Moose and I’m just glad to know there are people like him out there in the world trying to do good things.


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  • Introductions and background
  • Moose’s journey to the National Park Service
  • The problem with public shaming those who have made mistakes outdoors
  • How to approach the topic of bad decision making
  • Riding the line between adventure, risk, and safety
  • The importance of mentorship
  • The importance of storytelling to pass along lessons learned
  • How to properly learn from an emergency scenario
  • Compassion and humility in SAR
  • The ability to put yourself in someone else’s shoes
  • Why Moose has chosen SAR
  • How to deal with a rescue operation afterward
  • The importance of writing out experiences 
  • How to have an adventure
  • Yosemite Education Center
  • What we can do better in the next 100 years
  • How to follow up with Moose
  • https://www.moosemutlow.com/
  • https://www.instagram.com/moosemutlow
  • Searching: Finding purpose, laughter, and distraction through Search and Rescue https://amzn.to/3vU2dDJ
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]]> Emory Wanger 55faf2dde4b0ef3f50c609aa:59bee79cedaed881775f0903:622a3c7c67fd34325fe6acf9 Mon, 14 Mar 2022 00:00:00 -0700 4978 138 full false #137 - Wild Places, Sheep, and Making the Most of It with Adam Foss #137 - Wild Places, Sheep, and Making the Most of It with Adam Foss Adam Foss grew up hunting sheep in the mountains with his father and brother.  He learned at a young age what it looked like to work hard for something, admire the beauty of accomplishment, and fully appreciate where sheep call home.  If you want to hunt sheep, you’re going to experience some pretty incredible yet rugged country.  Sheep hunting doesn’t come easy, which is probably why those that do it are in a league of their own.

Adam is now a professional photographer and his imagery can be found on the pages of photo books and in high-end ads for well-known brands.  Chances are that if you follow brands like Sitka, Yeti, or Matthews then you’ve seen plenty of his work.  His images have a way of transporting the viewer to the exact moment in time when the picture was taken.

I am humbled to put Adam on my list of guests and honored to have had the opportunity to connect with him for an episode.


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  • Adam’s background and current profession
  • How Adam manages such a long and active hunting season
  • The relationship between hunting and the discipline of sport
  • Decision-making in the mountains
  • Mental tools to deal with hard situations in the backcountry
  • On Adam's long-term relationship with the outdoors
  • How Adam’s appreciation for the places he goes impacts his photography
  • How Adam started a photography business with his wife
  • Adam's passion for sheep  
  • Trying to explain the story of hunting to the general public 
  • Emory’s fall hunting experience with a bear 
  • Entering a hunting flow state
  • Why hunting is important to our culture and the human experience
  • Thoughts on conservation as a whole 
  • How to follow up with Adam and his work
  • Foss Media: https://www.foss.media/
  • Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/fossman8
  • Best Laid Plans Film: https://youtu.be/-VzXkJ4yk0M
  • Searching For West Film: https://youtu.be/XoTsM5RYZPU

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]]> Adam Foss grew up hunting sheep in the mountains with his father and brother.  He learned at a young age what it looked like to work hard for something, admire the beauty of accomplishment, and fully appreciate where sheep call home.  If you want to hunt sheep, you’re going to experience some pretty incredible yet rugged country.  Sheep hunting doesn’t come easy, which is probably why those that do it are in a league of their own.

Adam is now a professional photographer and his imagery can be found on the pages of photo books and in high-end ads for well-known brands.  Chances are that if you follow brands like Sitka, Yeti, or Matthews then you’ve seen plenty of his work.  His images have a way of transporting the viewer to the exact moment in time when the picture was taken.

I am humbled to put Adam on my list of guests and honored to have had the opportunity to connect with him for an episode.


Show Notes and Links

  • Adam’s background and current profession
  • How Adam manages such a long and active hunting season
  • The relationship between hunting and the discipline of sport
  • Decision-making in the mountains
  • Mental tools to deal with hard situations in the backcountry
  • On Adam's long-term relationship with the outdoors
  • How Adam’s appreciation for the places he goes impacts his photography
  • How Adam started a photography business with his wife
  • Adam's passion for sheep  
  • Trying to explain the story of hunting to the general public 
  • Emory’s fall hunting experience with a bear 
  • Entering a hunting flow state
  • Why hunting is important to our culture and the human experience
  • Thoughts on conservation as a whole 
  • How to follow up with Adam and his work
  • Foss Media: https://www.foss.media/
  • Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/fossman8
  • Best Laid Plans Film: https://youtu.be/-VzXkJ4yk0M
  • Searching For West Film: https://youtu.be/XoTsM5RYZPU

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]]> Emory Wanger 55faf2dde4b0ef3f50c609aa:59bee79cedaed881775f0903:620aa614adf89118f04d43d6 Mon, 21 Feb 2022 00:00:00 -0800 6269 137 full true #136 - A First Time Western Backpack Hunt with Joey Bennett #136 - A First Time Western Backpack Hunt with Joey Bennett Joey Bennett headed west this past September to meet a personal goal of hunting elk in Colorado.  It would be the first time he’d hunt elk, the first time he’d hunt Colorado, the first time he’d ever go backpack hunting,  and he did it alone.

When I saw Joey’s big smile on an Instagram post after his hunt, I knew we needed to talk.  He spent a solid 5 days backpack hunting in Colorado in an area he was completely unfamiliar with and although he never punched a tag, he couldn’t have been more excited about the experience.  

I asked Joey to come on the show to talk about his journey, his hunt, and to pick his brain about what it was like traveling west to hunt elk that he’d never hunted before.  He’s a regular guy like me and you who has a job, a family, and a passion for adventure.  Joey made up his mind he wanted to give it a shot, and he made it happen.  That’s what I love about his story.  It’s about just going for it regardless of the unknowns that lay ahead.  

There are great bits of wisdom and insight sprinkled throughout this episode and I hope you take a little inspiration from Joey and just go do what you dream of doing.  Don’t worry about what you don’t know.  Just make a plan, go, and have an adventure! 

Show Notes and Links

  • Introductions
  • Joey’s solo elk hunt summary
  • Planning for a western elk hunt to an unknown area
  • Joey’s backstory with the outdoors
  • Diving into the details of Joey’s trip  
  • Lessons learned
  • Gear talk!
  • Joey’s IG https://www.instagram.com/jjbennett64

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]]> Joey Bennett headed west this past September to meet a personal goal of hunting elk in Colorado.  It would be the first time he’d hunt elk, the first time he’d hunt Colorado, the first time he’d ever go backpack hunting,  and he did it alone.

When I saw Joey’s big smile on an Instagram post after his hunt, I knew we needed to talk.  He spent a solid 5 days backpack hunting in Colorado in an area he was completely unfamiliar with and although he never punched a tag, he couldn’t have been more excited about the experience.  

I asked Joey to come on the show to talk about his journey, his hunt, and to pick his brain about what it was like traveling west to hunt elk that he’d never hunted before.  He’s a regular guy like me and you who has a job, a family, and a passion for adventure.  Joey made up his mind he wanted to give it a shot, and he made it happen.  That’s what I love about his story.  It’s about just going for it regardless of the unknowns that lay ahead.  

There are great bits of wisdom and insight sprinkled throughout this episode and I hope you take a little inspiration from Joey and just go do what you dream of doing.  Don’t worry about what you don’t know.  Just make a plan, go, and have an adventure! 

Show Notes and Links

  • Introductions
  • Joey’s solo elk hunt summary
  • Planning for a western elk hunt to an unknown area
  • Joey’s backstory with the outdoors
  • Diving into the details of Joey’s trip  
  • Lessons learned
  • Gear talk!
  • Joey’s IG https://www.instagram.com/jjbennett64

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]]> Emory Wanger 55faf2dde4b0ef3f50c609aa:59bee79cedaed881775f0903:61ba72b79cb0f225c5e94529 Mon, 27 Dec 2021 00:00:00 -0800 5232 136 full false #135 - 60 Years of Backpacking with JR Harris #135 - 60 Years of Backpacking with JR Harris JR Harris has been backpacking for 60 years.  It all started when his parents decided to send him to Boy Scout camp to avoid summers in NYC and though he may have gone against his own will that first time, it soon became something he missed when the summer came to a close.

JR is now in his mid 70’s and has seen adventures all around the world.  He’s been to incredible places, diverse countries, and seen the wildest places, mostly on his own.  In 1993 he was elected to the Explorers Club, which is a pretty prestigious honor.  You can read all about his adventures in his book “Way Out There: Adventures of a Wilderness Trekker.”

It was an honor to speak with him that first time, and I was even more excited to learn he’d be willing to join me for an episode of the podcast.  I wanted to learn from JR and hear what his life has been like, how it got started, and where he came from.  What happens to a person after 60 years of backpacking?  Does it still mean the same things as it once did?  Is the fire still alive?

I had all the questions and JR answered them with grace.  He is no doubt an inspiration to so many and I couldn’t be more excited to bring him to you through the podcast.  

I sincerely hope you enjoy this conversation as much as I did.


Show Notes and Links

  • Getting to know who JR is and his background  
  • How and why JR’s parents sent JR to summer scout camps
  • What it was like returning to the city after a summer of Scouts
  • How summers with the Scouts impacted life in the city
  • JR’s thoughts on taking time to himself to re-energize
  • What JR gets out of living on the edge of discomfort
  • Thoughts on the life-changing trajectory JR’s parents put him on as a young man
  • On setting an example for younger generations
  • The power of being an example 
  • JR’s book!
  • JR’s favorite backpacking trip
  • On having an adventure regardless of the outcome
  • https://www.jrinthewilderness.com/
  • JR’s Book - Way Out There: Adventures of  a Wilderness Trekker

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]]> JR Harris has been backpacking for 60 years.  It all started when his parents decided to send him to Boy Scout camp to avoid summers in NYC and though he may have gone against his own will that first time, it soon became something he missed when the summer came to a close.

JR is now in his mid 70’s and has seen adventures all around the world.  He’s been to incredible places, diverse countries, and seen the wildest places, mostly on his own.  In 1993 he was elected to the Explorers Club, which is a pretty prestigious honor.  You can read all about his adventures in his book “Way Out There: Adventures of a Wilderness Trekker.”

It was an honor to speak with him that first time, and I was even more excited to learn he’d be willing to join me for an episode of the podcast.  I wanted to learn from JR and hear what his life has been like, how it got started, and where he came from.  What happens to a person after 60 years of backpacking?  Does it still mean the same things as it once did?  Is the fire still alive?

I had all the questions and JR answered them with grace.  He is no doubt an inspiration to so many and I couldn’t be more excited to bring him to you through the podcast.  

I sincerely hope you enjoy this conversation as much as I did.


Show Notes and Links

  • Getting to know who JR is and his background  
  • How and why JR’s parents sent JR to summer scout camps
  • What it was like returning to the city after a summer of Scouts
  • How summers with the Scouts impacted life in the city
  • JR’s thoughts on taking time to himself to re-energize
  • What JR gets out of living on the edge of discomfort
  • Thoughts on the life-changing trajectory JR’s parents put him on as a young man
  • On setting an example for younger generations
  • The power of being an example 
  • JR’s book!
  • JR’s favorite backpacking trip
  • On having an adventure regardless of the outcome
  • https://www.jrinthewilderness.com/
  • JR’s Book - Way Out There: Adventures of  a Wilderness Trekker

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]]> Emory Wanger 55faf2dde4b0ef3f50c609aa:59bee79cedaed881775f0903:61ba728a4e2ecc2b471d7ab6 Mon, 20 Dec 2021 00:00:00 -0800 3880 135 full false #134 - Freedom From Expectations with Justin Helmkamp #134 - Freedom From Expectations with Justin Helmkamp Justin Helmkamp completed his Triple Crown of Thru-Hiking in 2021.  He’s now hiked the Appalachian Trail, Pacific Crest Trail, and the Continental Divide Trail in full.  How’s that for an accomplishment?!  

Justin is an outstanding human being.  Between his PCT and CDT hikes, he worked as a Wilderness Therapy Guide helping troubled teens.  As you’ll hear in this episode, it was during that time that Justin developed into who he is today.  

His hike up the CDT this last summer was one for the books.  He not only made the trail his own while capturing some absolutely stunning imagery, but he also freed himself of other people’s expectations.  This might be my favorite portion of our conversation.  In his own words, he’ll share a simple yet profound moment on the trail when it all clicked and he let it all go.  He found freedom on the CDT this year and I believe that’s something we could all celebrate.


Show Notes and Links

  • Catching up with Justin and his recent Triple Crown
  • What it feels like to be finished
  • What waiting to hike the CDT did for Justin’s personal growth
  • How experiences in wilderness therapy prepared Justin for the CDT
  • Themes for each trail on a personal level
  • The creative juice of a thru-hike
  • On giving yourself permission to do something adventurous 
  • Thoughts on the “habitual” thru-hiking life
  • CDT self-realizations
  • What comes next  
  • Favorite spot on the CDT
  • Grizzly bear moments 
  • Thoughts on NOBO vs. SOBO on the CDT 
  • https://www.justinhelmkamp.com/
  • @justinhelmkamp

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]]> Justin Helmkamp completed his Triple Crown of Thru-Hiking in 2021.  He’s now hiked the Appalachian Trail, Pacific Crest Trail, and the Continental Divide Trail in full.  How’s that for an accomplishment?!  

Justin is an outstanding human being.  Between his PCT and CDT hikes, he worked as a Wilderness Therapy Guide helping troubled teens.  As you’ll hear in this episode, it was during that time that Justin developed into who he is today.  

His hike up the CDT this last summer was one for the books.  He not only made the trail his own while capturing some absolutely stunning imagery, but he also freed himself of other people’s expectations.  This might be my favorite portion of our conversation.  In his own words, he’ll share a simple yet profound moment on the trail when it all clicked and he let it all go.  He found freedom on the CDT this year and I believe that’s something we could all celebrate.


Show Notes and Links

  • Catching up with Justin and his recent Triple Crown
  • What it feels like to be finished
  • What waiting to hike the CDT did for Justin’s personal growth
  • How experiences in wilderness therapy prepared Justin for the CDT
  • Themes for each trail on a personal level
  • The creative juice of a thru-hike
  • On giving yourself permission to do something adventurous 
  • Thoughts on the “habitual” thru-hiking life
  • CDT self-realizations
  • What comes next  
  • Favorite spot on the CDT
  • Grizzly bear moments 
  • Thoughts on NOBO vs. SOBO on the CDT 
  • https://www.justinhelmkamp.com/
  • @justinhelmkamp

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]]> Emory Wanger 55faf2dde4b0ef3f50c609aa:59bee79cedaed881775f0903:61af90c84b5cfa5fc9001acc Tue, 07 Dec 2021 10:16:16 -0800 5272 134 full false #133 - The American Perimeter Trail with Rue McKenrick #133 - The American Perimeter Trail with Rue McKenrick Rue McKenrick is no doubt one of the most prolific long-distance hikers today, but he doesn’t know how many miles he’s hiked because he doesn’t care about that.  It’s not what defines him, but if you need to know then let’s just start with his Triple Crown over a decade ago, the many long trails all over the US and abroad, and most recently a 12,000-mile route spanning the perimeter of the contiguous United States.  Rue is a hiker, yes, but he’s also the Executive Director and founder of the American Perimeter Trail Conference.  

In the words of the organization itself, “the vision of the American Perimeter Trail Conference is to create a protected corridor of land and natural resources available for recreational use roughly tracing the contiguous United States.  The American Perimeter Trail seeks to connect the land, resources, people, and communities. It strives to encourage conservation efforts through recreation, allowing all people and generations to experience the diversity of the contiguous United States.”

Rue believes in community and sincerely wants to connect us together to form bonds strong enough to heal both ourselves and those around us.

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]]> Rue McKenrick is no doubt one of the most prolific long-distance hikers today, but he doesn’t know how many miles he’s hiked because he doesn’t care about that.  It’s not what defines him, but if you need to know then let’s just start with his Triple Crown over a decade ago, the many long trails all over the US and abroad, and most recently a 12,000-mile route spanning the perimeter of the contiguous United States.  Rue is a hiker, yes, but he’s also the Executive Director and founder of the American Perimeter Trail Conference.  

In the words of the organization itself, “the vision of the American Perimeter Trail Conference is to create a protected corridor of land and natural resources available for recreational use roughly tracing the contiguous United States.  The American Perimeter Trail seeks to connect the land, resources, people, and communities. It strives to encourage conservation efforts through recreation, allowing all people and generations to experience the diversity of the contiguous United States.”

Rue believes in community and sincerely wants to connect us together to form bonds strong enough to heal both ourselves and those around us.

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]]> Emory Wanger 55faf2dde4b0ef3f50c609aa:59bee79cedaed881775f0903:6185aa551189e657e3036880 Mon, 08 Nov 2021 00:00:00 -0800 6617 133 full true #132 - Your Nutrition Questions Answered with Kyle Kamp RDN, LD #132 - Your Nutrition Questions Answered with Kyle Kamp RDN, LD Kyle Kamp is a Registered and Licensed Dietitian who specializes in backcountry nutrition and performance.  He recently became a full-time operator of his own business, Valley to Peak Nutrition, and is now 100% dedicated to helping people reach their personal goals with nutrition and performance.  

Kyle is a return guest on the podcast so we spend some time catching up on what’s new with him and Valley to Peak Nutrition before diving into audience nutrition questions.  

This episode is loaded down with great information so enjoy!

CALORIE NEEDS CALCULATION:

  • Bodyweight x 10 (then x13) 
    • i.e. 165 lbs x 10 = 1650 cal (low end)
    • i.e. 165 lbs x 13 = 2145 cal (high end)
  • CALORIE RANGE = 1650-2145 cal 


Show Notes and Links

  • Optimal performance vs practical performance
  • On being married to your ideas of nutrition
  • Reintroducing Kyle Kamp as a full-time operator of Valley to Peak
  • What’s in store for Valley To Peak Nutrition going forward?
  • Nutrition across varying cultures
  • Food as a part of all cultures
  • Navigating overall calorie intake and management 
  • Managing nutrition on the individual level for the specific person
  • QUESTION: Intermittent fasting on the trail
  • QUESTION: Timing meals in the backcountry  
  • How the body decides how and what to use as fuel or stores     
  • QUESTION: Where do source energy calories from
  • QUESTION:  Diets for putting the body into recovery mode?
  • QUESTION: Recommended mix of sourced calories?
  • Calorie Needs Calculation: Bodyweight x 10 to 13
  • QUESTION: Thoughts on hydration and energy mixes?
  • QUESTION:  Dealing with diabetes on the trail?
  • Website https://www.v2pnutrition.com/
  • Instagram https://www.instagram.com/v2pnutrition
  • Facebook https://www.facebook.com/v2pnutrition/

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]]> Kyle Kamp is a Registered and Licensed Dietitian who specializes in backcountry nutrition and performance.  He recently became a full-time operator of his own business, Valley to Peak Nutrition, and is now 100% dedicated to helping people reach their personal goals with nutrition and performance.  

Kyle is a return guest on the podcast so we spend some time catching up on what’s new with him and Valley to Peak Nutrition before diving into audience nutrition questions.  

This episode is loaded down with great information so enjoy!

CALORIE NEEDS CALCULATION:

  • Bodyweight x 10 (then x13) 
    • i.e. 165 lbs x 10 = 1650 cal (low end)
    • i.e. 165 lbs x 13 = 2145 cal (high end)
  • CALORIE RANGE = 1650-2145 cal 


Show Notes and Links

  • Optimal performance vs practical performance
  • On being married to your ideas of nutrition
  • Reintroducing Kyle Kamp as a full-time operator of Valley to Peak
  • What’s in store for Valley To Peak Nutrition going forward?
  • Nutrition across varying cultures
  • Food as a part of all cultures
  • Navigating overall calorie intake and management 
  • Managing nutrition on the individual level for the specific person
  • QUESTION: Intermittent fasting on the trail
  • QUESTION: Timing meals in the backcountry  
  • How the body decides how and what to use as fuel or stores     
  • QUESTION: Where do source energy calories from
  • QUESTION:  Diets for putting the body into recovery mode?
  • QUESTION: Recommended mix of sourced calories?
  • Calorie Needs Calculation: Bodyweight x 10 to 13
  • QUESTION: Thoughts on hydration and energy mixes?
  • QUESTION:  Dealing with diabetes on the trail?
  • Website https://www.v2pnutrition.com/
  • Instagram https://www.instagram.com/v2pnutrition
  • Facebook https://www.facebook.com/v2pnutrition/

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]]> Emory Wanger 55faf2dde4b0ef3f50c609aa:59bee79cedaed881775f0903:613f84d1f5eae51aa6fc243b Tue, 14 Sep 2021 00:00:00 -0700 4722 132 full false #131 - Body Mobility for the Mountains with Chase Tucker #131 - Body Mobility for the Mountains with Chase Tucker Chase Tucker is a long-distance backpacker from Tasmania who specializes in training backpackers in the field of overall body mobility and fitness for their outdoor adventures.   Chase is also an accomplished backpacker and traveler having hiked through both the Annapurna and Everest regions of Nepal as well as some of Spain’s long trails through the Pyrenees mountain range.   

I  found Chase through YouTube where I easily deep dove a number of his videos both for their information and sense of adventure.  Chase has a way of finding a great balance of providing you with important information as well as telling the story of his hike.  

Chase is one of the most sincere individuals you’ll come across and you can tell he has a passion for what he does.  He cares deeply about the overall health and wellness of his students and is dedicated to helping them reach their goals. 

This episode is packed full of great actionable information you can implement on your next hike or your training schedule. 


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]]> Chase Tucker is a long-distance backpacker from Tasmania who specializes in training backpackers in the field of overall body mobility and fitness for their outdoor adventures.   Chase is also an accomplished backpacker and traveler having hiked through both the Annapurna and Everest regions of Nepal as well as some of Spain’s long trails through the Pyrenees mountain range.   

I  found Chase through YouTube where I easily deep dove a number of his videos both for their information and sense of adventure.  Chase has a way of finding a great balance of providing you with important information as well as telling the story of his hike.  

Chase is one of the most sincere individuals you’ll come across and you can tell he has a passion for what he does.  He cares deeply about the overall health and wellness of his students and is dedicated to helping them reach their goals. 

This episode is packed full of great actionable information you can implement on your next hike or your training schedule. 


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]]> Emory R. Wanger 55faf2dde4b0ef3f50c609aa:59bee79cedaed881775f0903:60f5ae5eac8c763cb7744fb5 Tue, 20 Jul 2021 00:00:00 -0700 4578 131 full false #130 - Debunking Your Weak Ankles with Cory Ford #130 - Debunking Your Weak Ankles with Cory Ford What if I told you “weak ankles” aren’t really a thing?  What if I then told you that, like a muscle, you can strengthen them?  Does that sound nice?  Me too!

Cory Ford joins me on this episode to discuss the realities of “weak ankles,” what that actually means, and what you can do to battle back against previous ankle injuries.  By the time this episode is over, you’ll have learned about how the body works with regard to footing, how various footwear functions, and how to go about choosing your footwear based on what YOU do.  And, if you struggle with what you describe as “weak ankles,” I think you’ll come away from this episode feeling excited that you’re not doomed to wear big boots for the rest of your life.   


Show Notes and Links

  • Introductions
  • Cory’s background 
  • Misunderstanding “weak ankles”
  • Where to start in shopping for a shoe or boot
  • Where the “hunting boot” came from
  • How to know when you need additional support  
  • Defining “shank”
  • The evolution of finding the right footwear
  • The importance of having a footwear quiver
  • Footwear insoles
  • Gear that can actually impact your trip
  • Do blisters mean your boots are bad?
  • The relationship between pack weight and ankle support  
  • Optimizing for what you’ll ACTUALLY do  
  • Closing thoughts
  • https://www.angryspike.com/
  • https://www.instagram.com/cory_d_ford/
  • https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCUowcOft-UVAWtDJS04LFfw

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]]> What if I told you “weak ankles” aren’t really a thing?  What if I then told you that, like a muscle, you can strengthen them?  Does that sound nice?  Me too!

Cory Ford joins me on this episode to discuss the realities of “weak ankles,” what that actually means, and what you can do to battle back against previous ankle injuries.  By the time this episode is over, you’ll have learned about how the body works with regard to footing, how various footwear functions, and how to go about choosing your footwear based on what YOU do.  And, if you struggle with what you describe as “weak ankles,” I think you’ll come away from this episode feeling excited that you’re not doomed to wear big boots for the rest of your life.   


Show Notes and Links

  • Introductions
  • Cory’s background 
  • Misunderstanding “weak ankles”
  • Where to start in shopping for a shoe or boot
  • Where the “hunting boot” came from
  • How to know when you need additional support  
  • Defining “shank”
  • The evolution of finding the right footwear
  • The importance of having a footwear quiver
  • Footwear insoles
  • Gear that can actually impact your trip
  • Do blisters mean your boots are bad?
  • The relationship between pack weight and ankle support  
  • Optimizing for what you’ll ACTUALLY do  
  • Closing thoughts
  • https://www.angryspike.com/
  • https://www.instagram.com/cory_d_ford/
  • https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCUowcOft-UVAWtDJS04LFfw

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]]> Emory Wanger 55faf2dde4b0ef3f50c609aa:59bee79cedaed881775f0903:6095aba61d06833711984a6e Mon, 10 May 2021 00:00:00 -0700 5913 130 full false #129 - New Trails and New Adventures with Renee "Shera" Patrick #129 - New Trails and New Adventures with Renee "Shera" Patrick Renee “Shera” Patrick is the Program Coordinator of the Oregon Desert Trail and has been hiking long distance trails for 20 years!  Her work at the ODT has brought led her to be involved in the creation and launch of the new Blue Mountains Trail in NE Oregon which launches May 8, 2021.  

Renee re-joins the show to catch up on recent happenings on the ODT, the launch of the Blue Mountains Trail, and chat about a proposed wilderness area in SE Oregon.

This episode will leave you feeling inspired and with a smile on your face.  Renee is an incredible person, hiker, and steward of the backcountry and it was an honor to have her on the show again! 

Emory, By Land

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]]> Renee “Shera” Patrick is the Program Coordinator of the Oregon Desert Trail and has been hiking long distance trails for 20 years!  Her work at the ODT has brought led her to be involved in the creation and launch of the new Blue Mountains Trail in NE Oregon which launches May 8, 2021.  

Renee re-joins the show to catch up on recent happenings on the ODT, the launch of the Blue Mountains Trail, and chat about a proposed wilderness area in SE Oregon.

This episode will leave you feeling inspired and with a smile on your face.  Renee is an incredible person, hiker, and steward of the backcountry and it was an honor to have her on the show again! 

Emory, By Land

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]]> Emory R. Wanger 55faf2dde4b0ef3f50c609aa:59bee79cedaed881775f0903:6086ea511c5410721248ccf8 Mon, 26 Apr 2021 09:50:08 -0700 4464 129 full false #128 - Setting Expectations with Bonie Shupe of Ibex #128 - Setting Expectations with Bonie Shupe of Ibex Bonie Shupe is the GM and Director of Product at Ibex.  After a long history of creating some amazing products, Ibex closed its doors a few years ago, but has since been bought and rebooted.  Bonie is the brains behind product design and is working hard to create the same quality merino products that Ibex was known for.

When I learned Ibex was back up and running again, I had to know more so I asked Bonie if she’d be willing to come on for a chat.  My original intention was to learn more about Ibex, their history, and what they’re up to but, as luck would have it, I stumbled onto some profound advice from Bonie based on her experience as an endurance athlete.

Yes, this is an episode about Ibex, their products, and how amazing Merino Wool is but, that’s just scratching the surface.  Bonie takes the time to educate me on the differences of between 100% merino and blended merino, how merino is being used as insulation in garments now, and what it’s like getting to reboot a beloved brand.

More importantly, Bonie walks me through how she manages herself during endurance events.  This is where the gold is, and this is where you’ll come away with a new perspective after hearing Bonie speak about her love for pushing her body.

I came away from our conversation feeling enlightened, educated, and with a new friend and I think you will too!

 

By Land,

Emory R. Wanger


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  • Introductions
  • Who Bonie is and who she works for
  • How Bonie got into her line of work
  • Backstory on where Ibex went and how they came back 
  • Relaunching a brand
  • Bonie’s obsession with Merino Wool and why
  • 100% merino vs. blends 
  • Expanding the uses of Merino (outerwear)
  • Bonie’s backstory in the outdoors
  • Bonie’s advice for “No expectations”
  • Where Bonie finds her enjoyment of endurance sports
  • How Bonie manages her “head” during these events
  • On experiencing the natural world 
  • Contemplating the impact we have on the environment
  • How to act environmentally responsible
  • The future of Ibex and what to look forward to
  • How to follow up with Ibex 
  • https://ibex.com/
  • https://www.instagram.com/ibexwool/

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]]> Bonie Shupe is the GM and Director of Product at Ibex.  After a long history of creating some amazing products, Ibex closed its doors a few years ago, but has since been bought and rebooted.  Bonie is the brains behind product design and is working hard to create the same quality merino products that Ibex was known for.

When I learned Ibex was back up and running again, I had to know more so I asked Bonie if she’d be willing to come on for a chat.  My original intention was to learn more about Ibex, their history, and what they’re up to but, as luck would have it, I stumbled onto some profound advice from Bonie based on her experience as an endurance athlete.

Yes, this is an episode about Ibex, their products, and how amazing Merino Wool is but, that’s just scratching the surface.  Bonie takes the time to educate me on the differences of between 100% merino and blended merino, how merino is being used as insulation in garments now, and what it’s like getting to reboot a beloved brand.

More importantly, Bonie walks me through how she manages herself during endurance events.  This is where the gold is, and this is where you’ll come away with a new perspective after hearing Bonie speak about her love for pushing her body.

I came away from our conversation feeling enlightened, educated, and with a new friend and I think you will too!

 

By Land,

Emory R. Wanger


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  • Introductions
  • Who Bonie is and who she works for
  • How Bonie got into her line of work
  • Backstory on where Ibex went and how they came back 
  • Relaunching a brand
  • Bonie’s obsession with Merino Wool and why
  • 100% merino vs. blends 
  • Expanding the uses of Merino (outerwear)
  • Bonie’s backstory in the outdoors
  • Bonie’s advice for “No expectations”
  • Where Bonie finds her enjoyment of endurance sports
  • How Bonie manages her “head” during these events
  • On experiencing the natural world 
  • Contemplating the impact we have on the environment
  • How to act environmentally responsible
  • The future of Ibex and what to look forward to
  • How to follow up with Ibex 
  • https://ibex.com/
  • https://www.instagram.com/ibexwool/

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]]> Emory R. Wanger 55faf2dde4b0ef3f50c609aa:59bee79cedaed881775f0903:603e927bda95117bee6ee34f Tue, 16 Mar 2021 11:31:00 -0700 3990 128 full false #127 - Embrace The Alternate with Doug Laher #127 - Embrace The Alternate with Doug Laher Doug Laher is the Father of Thru-Hiker Trevor “Microsoft” Laher who tragically passed away while hiking near Apache Peak along the PCT.  He was 11 days into his hike when conditions along the trail deteriorated quickly, forcing him to either push through or find another way around.  

Trevor was 22 years old, a graduate of Ohio State, and had a software engineering job waiting for him at Microsoft once his hike of the PCT was complete.  He had a determined soul, a brilliant mind, and a reflective attitude.  His love of hiking continued to grow year after year and the PCT was to be his pinnacle dream.

This is his story.

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]]> Doug Laher is the Father of Thru-Hiker Trevor “Microsoft” Laher who tragically passed away while hiking near Apache Peak along the PCT.  He was 11 days into his hike when conditions along the trail deteriorated quickly, forcing him to either push through or find another way around.  

Trevor was 22 years old, a graduate of Ohio State, and had a software engineering job waiting for him at Microsoft once his hike of the PCT was complete.  He had a determined soul, a brilliant mind, and a reflective attitude.  His love of hiking continued to grow year after year and the PCT was to be his pinnacle dream.

This is his story.

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]]> Emory Wanger 55faf2dde4b0ef3f50c609aa:59bee79cedaed881775f0903:5a273c749140b78fb5c115c4 Fri, 05 Mar 2021 06:00:00 -0800 5131 127 full false #126 - The Benefits of CBD for Backpackers with Ryan and Hillary Lampers #126 - The Benefits of CBD for Backpackers with Ryan and Hillary Lampers Ryan and Hillary Lampers are the husband and wife team behind “Hunt, Harvest, Health,” a health and wellness company dedicated to promoting a healthy backcountry lifestyle.  They offer everything from a Podcast, Nutrition Consultations, A Western Hunting Summit, and even natural supplements.  Ryan and Hillary are passionate about helping others achieve a healthy lifestyle and have the experience and knowledge to do just that.

On this episode of The By Land Podcast, I sit down with Ryan and Hillary to discuss the benefits of CBD for backpackers.  As we all know, this is reasonably new territory for most of the population. Still, as I’m sure you’ve heard by now through the grapevine, CBD is a pretty incredible and NATURAL supplement you can use to battle a number of ailments, including inflammation while on the trail.  

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]]> Ryan and Hillary Lampers are the husband and wife team behind “Hunt, Harvest, Health,” a health and wellness company dedicated to promoting a healthy backcountry lifestyle.  They offer everything from a Podcast, Nutrition Consultations, A Western Hunting Summit, and even natural supplements.  Ryan and Hillary are passionate about helping others achieve a healthy lifestyle and have the experience and knowledge to do just that.

On this episode of The By Land Podcast, I sit down with Ryan and Hillary to discuss the benefits of CBD for backpackers.  As we all know, this is reasonably new territory for most of the population. Still, as I’m sure you’ve heard by now through the grapevine, CBD is a pretty incredible and NATURAL supplement you can use to battle a number of ailments, including inflammation while on the trail.  

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]]> Emory Wanger 55faf2dde4b0ef3f50c609aa:59bee79cedaed881775f0903:5ff5fb7cb86bbd67bab9c208 Thu, 07 Jan 2021 13:28:52 -0800 7137 126 full false #125 - Why Hunting Isn't Conservation and Why It Matters with Kevin Bixby #125 - Why Hunting Isn't Conservation and Why It Matters with Kevin Bixby Kevin Bixby is the Executive Director of the SW Environmental Center and recently published an article titled “Why Hunting Isn’t Conservation and Why It Matters."  I asked him on the show for this episode to help me better understand what he means by this.  

By no means is this an anti-hunting article, in fact, Kevin is a hunter himself and is the first to admit that hunting has played a key role in the preservation of American big game animals.  That said, he feels the modern conservation model needs to change in a way that reflects the values of ALL those interested in the preservation of wildlife.  If you’re interested in reading the full article, you can find a link to this article in the show notes.


SHOW NOTES:

  • Introductions
  • Kevin Bixby and his background
  • How Kevin Bixby got into the political side of conservation
  • Science versus value systems
  • The rise of new value systems
  • America’s Wildlife Values Survey
  • The changes in cultural values
  • A short history of the modern wildlife conservation model
  • The need to pivot to a modern conservation model
  • What’s wrong with the “hunting is conservation” argument
  • How State and federal wildlife agencies receive funding
  • The impact of invasive species
  • Does industry impact conservation efforts?
  • Game management as crop management 
  • The current imbalance of decision making 
  • The topic of wolves and predators
  • The future of hunting in modern times
  • The  “hunting is conservation” mantra
  • What keeps Kevin going year after year
  • Border walls and the impact of wildlife migration
  • How to follow up with Kevin Bixby and his work
  • Kevin’s Original Article: https://rewilding.org/hunting-isnt-conservation/
  • America's Wildlife Values Survey: https://sites.warnercnr.colostate.edu/wildlifevalues/
  • Southwest Environmental Center: https://www.wildmesquite.org/index.php/
  • Contact Kevin: kevin@wildmesquite.org

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]]> Kevin Bixby is the Executive Director of the SW Environmental Center and recently published an article titled “Why Hunting Isn’t Conservation and Why It Matters."  I asked him on the show for this episode to help me better understand what he means by this.  

By no means is this an anti-hunting article, in fact, Kevin is a hunter himself and is the first to admit that hunting has played a key role in the preservation of American big game animals.  That said, he feels the modern conservation model needs to change in a way that reflects the values of ALL those interested in the preservation of wildlife.  If you’re interested in reading the full article, you can find a link to this article in the show notes.


SHOW NOTES:

  • Introductions
  • Kevin Bixby and his background
  • How Kevin Bixby got into the political side of conservation
  • Science versus value systems
  • The rise of new value systems
  • America’s Wildlife Values Survey
  • The changes in cultural values
  • A short history of the modern wildlife conservation model
  • The need to pivot to a modern conservation model
  • What’s wrong with the “hunting is conservation” argument
  • How State and federal wildlife agencies receive funding
  • The impact of invasive species
  • Does industry impact conservation efforts?
  • Game management as crop management 
  • The current imbalance of decision making 
  • The topic of wolves and predators
  • The future of hunting in modern times
  • The  “hunting is conservation” mantra
  • What keeps Kevin going year after year
  • Border walls and the impact of wildlife migration
  • How to follow up with Kevin Bixby and his work
  • Kevin’s Original Article: https://rewilding.org/hunting-isnt-conservation/
  • America's Wildlife Values Survey: https://sites.warnercnr.colostate.edu/wildlifevalues/
  • Southwest Environmental Center: https://www.wildmesquite.org/index.php/
  • Contact Kevin: kevin@wildmesquite.org

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]]> Emory Wanger 55faf2dde4b0ef3f50c609aa:59bee79cedaed881775f0903:5fcaab1aab41c1112b0dec72 Mon, 07 Dec 2020 10:09:31 -0800 4015 125 full false #124 - The Story of the Largest Family To Hike the Appalachian Trail with Ben Crawford #124 - The Story of the Largest Family To Hike the Appalachian Trail with Ben Crawford Ben Crawford first appeared on the podcast for Episode 50, right after he and his family thru-hiked the Appalachian Trail in 2018.  Since then, he’s been working on writing a book about their family story and just recently published it for all to read and enjoy.  I had the pleasure of having Ben on the podcast yet again to talk about the book, the writing process, and the experiences he had putting it together.  

If you’re a family that enjoys the outdoors, or you one day WANT a family that enjoys the outdoors, I’d highly recommend exploring what Ben and his family are up to and how they approach parenting.  And, if you’re wanting to help support an awesome family, go buy the book (links below)!

  

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  • How having a family can alter perspectives
  • Pursuing things that shift perspective
  • Life after the AT family Thru-Hike 
  • How the AT changed the family dynamics
  • Why we’re quick to forget the pain of an ordeal
  • Why Ben Crawford wrote the book on hiking the AT
  • Reliving the trail through the writing process
  • Ben’s low point on the trail 
  • On reading the kids’ journal entries from the trail
  • The power of journaling
  • Details on the book variations 
  • How to find the book and support Ben Crawford
  • THE BOOK: https://amzn.to/3lYbTW3
  • YOUTUBE: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCT2WgHiawhWgbahB0CNENkg
  • IG: https://www.instagram.com/fightfortogether


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]]> Ben Crawford first appeared on the podcast for Episode 50, right after he and his family thru-hiked the Appalachian Trail in 2018.  Since then, he’s been working on writing a book about their family story and just recently published it for all to read and enjoy.  I had the pleasure of having Ben on the podcast yet again to talk about the book, the writing process, and the experiences he had putting it together.  

If you’re a family that enjoys the outdoors, or you one day WANT a family that enjoys the outdoors, I’d highly recommend exploring what Ben and his family are up to and how they approach parenting.  And, if you’re wanting to help support an awesome family, go buy the book (links below)!

  

SHOW NOTES AND LINKS

  • How having a family can alter perspectives
  • Pursuing things that shift perspective
  • Life after the AT family Thru-Hike 
  • How the AT changed the family dynamics
  • Why we’re quick to forget the pain of an ordeal
  • Why Ben Crawford wrote the book on hiking the AT
  • Reliving the trail through the writing process
  • Ben’s low point on the trail 
  • On reading the kids’ journal entries from the trail
  • The power of journaling
  • Details on the book variations 
  • How to find the book and support Ben Crawford
  • THE BOOK: https://amzn.to/3lYbTW3
  • YOUTUBE: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCT2WgHiawhWgbahB0CNENkg
  • IG: https://www.instagram.com/fightfortogether


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]]> Emory Wanger 55faf2dde4b0ef3f50c609aa:59bee79cedaed881775f0903:5fbc043bcfd9de3cb9c9bf32 Mon, 23 Nov 2020 15:04:06 -0800 3325 124 full true #123 - Taking Risks and Entrepreneurship with Chris Cage of Greenbelly Meals #123 - Taking Risks and Entrepreneurship with Chris Cage of Greenbelly Meals Chris Cage quit a corporate job to travel and eventually hike the Appalachian Trail.  When he was finally done, he had a choice to make.  Either go back to corporate life or find a way to fund his new lifestyle.  He chose the latter and founded Greenbelly Meals.  Chris has had to make some big life-changing decisions that all came at a cost, but that's what makes it an adventure.  To risk the known for the unknown.

In this episode, we learn a little more about Chris Cage, Green Belly, and how he manages risks.  We also dive into entrepreneurship, his book on the AT, and a fun new social networking site for backpacking gear nerds called Packfire.  

 

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]]> Chris Cage quit a corporate job to travel and eventually hike the Appalachian Trail.  When he was finally done, he had a choice to make.  Either go back to corporate life or find a way to fund his new lifestyle.  He chose the latter and founded Greenbelly Meals.  Chris has had to make some big life-changing decisions that all came at a cost, but that's what makes it an adventure.  To risk the known for the unknown.

In this episode, we learn a little more about Chris Cage, Green Belly, and how he manages risks.  We also dive into entrepreneurship, his book on the AT, and a fun new social networking site for backpacking gear nerds called Packfire.  

 

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]]> Emory Wanger 55faf2dde4b0ef3f50c609aa:59bee79cedaed881775f0903:5fb2ca5bb01f5f78e4dc137a Mon, 16 Nov 2020 15:46:12 -0800 4089 123 full false #122 - Finding Your Backpacking Style, Managing Expectations, and Managing Your Body #122 - Finding Your Backpacking Style, Managing Expectations, and Managing Your Body This past fall I launched my "Learn How To Backpack"  backpacking course for beginner backpackers.  I’ve mentioned it on the show before but I wanted to take some time to talk about why I created it and who it’s for.

For this episode, I dive into a few of the topics I cover in the course so you get a feel for what to expect.  With any luck, you’ll come away from this episode with some actionable tips to take with you on your next trip to the backcountry!

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  • Origin of the backpacking course and why I made it
  • What’s in the course
  • Why pay for the course?
  • Finding YOUR backpacking style
  • Managing expectations
  • Managing the miles on the trail
  • How I manage my own self
  • Why to avoid walking fast
  • The food and water formula

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]]> This past fall I launched my "Learn How To Backpack"  backpacking course for beginner backpackers.  I’ve mentioned it on the show before but I wanted to take some time to talk about why I created it and who it’s for.

For this episode, I dive into a few of the topics I cover in the course so you get a feel for what to expect.  With any luck, you’ll come away from this episode with some actionable tips to take with you on your next trip to the backcountry!

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  • Origin of the backpacking course and why I made it
  • What’s in the course
  • Why pay for the course?
  • Finding YOUR backpacking style
  • Managing expectations
  • Managing the miles on the trail
  • How I manage my own self
  • Why to avoid walking fast
  • The food and water formula

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]]> Emory Wanger 55faf2dde4b0ef3f50c609aa:59bee79cedaed881775f0903:5f987c72818c7f66094708ed Tue, 27 Oct 2020 15:02:01 -0700 1750 122 full false #121 - The John Muir Trail RocketShip with Chad Lubinski #121 - The John Muir Trail RocketShip with Chad Lubinski Chad Lubinski messaged me a few years ago after my PCT hike asking questions about how to section hike various portions of the PCT through Oregon because he’d never really considered any sort of hiking or backpacking outside of the hunting season. Since that first interaction, Chad has dived headfirst into backpacking. In 2019 he battled his first big chunk of miles along the PCT and just one year later he completed his first-ever thru-hike of the John Muir Trail. That one single thru-hike that put him through the wringer forced him to adapt to the changing conditions of the trail and when he came out the other side, he had a brand new lease on backpacking. It was like a rocket ship to backcountry freedom because when he came home, he went to work pounding out the miles as often as he could down some of the best trails Oregon and Washington have to offer.

In this episode, Chad shares his personal story, lessons learned, and what it’s like to hit the backcountry with confidence.


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  • Introductions
  • Chad’s background
  • Chad’s transition from hunting to backpacking
  • What caused Chad to begin section hiking
  • Experiencing the hiking culture
  • Observing the efficiency of thru-hikers
  • How efficiency can improve your enjoyment
  • What changed between 2019 and 2020
  • Chad’s experience on the JMT
  • Navigating the permit process
  • Preparing for the JMT
  • Getting punched in the face by the JMT
  • Lessons learned on the JMT
  • Learning the rhythm of the mountains
  • The powerful connection to others on the trail
  • Chad’s takeaway from the JMT
  • Confidence equals freedom in the backcountry
  • How to followup with Chad online
  • https://www.instagram.com/chadahooche_/
  • https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCK9Hz3X4LcG4fczA5vtz59Q

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]]> Chad Lubinski messaged me a few years ago after my PCT hike asking questions about how to section hike various portions of the PCT through Oregon because he’d never really considered any sort of hiking or backpacking outside of the hunting season. Since that first interaction, Chad has dived headfirst into backpacking. In 2019 he battled his first big chunk of miles along the PCT and just one year later he completed his first-ever thru-hike of the John Muir Trail. That one single thru-hike that put him through the wringer forced him to adapt to the changing conditions of the trail and when he came out the other side, he had a brand new lease on backpacking. It was like a rocket ship to backcountry freedom because when he came home, he went to work pounding out the miles as often as he could down some of the best trails Oregon and Washington have to offer.

In this episode, Chad shares his personal story, lessons learned, and what it’s like to hit the backcountry with confidence.


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  • Introductions
  • Chad’s background
  • Chad’s transition from hunting to backpacking
  • What caused Chad to begin section hiking
  • Experiencing the hiking culture
  • Observing the efficiency of thru-hikers
  • How efficiency can improve your enjoyment
  • What changed between 2019 and 2020
  • Chad’s experience on the JMT
  • Navigating the permit process
  • Preparing for the JMT
  • Getting punched in the face by the JMT
  • Lessons learned on the JMT
  • Learning the rhythm of the mountains
  • The powerful connection to others on the trail
  • Chad’s takeaway from the JMT
  • Confidence equals freedom in the backcountry
  • How to followup with Chad online
  • https://www.instagram.com/chadahooche_/
  • https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCK9Hz3X4LcG4fczA5vtz59Q

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]]> Emory Wanger 55faf2dde4b0ef3f50c609aa:59bee79cedaed881775f0903:5f7b5e1d4e13c235231771a3 Mon, 05 Oct 2020 14:33:12 -0700 4905 121 full true #120 - An Uncomfortable Conversation About The Reality of Hunting Culture #120 - An Uncomfortable Conversation About The Reality of Hunting Culture This episode of the By Land Podcast might get uncomfortable for hunters because I’m going to take a very hard and very uncomfortable look at the reality of what hunting culture actually is in 2020. This is not a topic that I take lightly. I’ve been sorting this out in my head for a long time now and thought it was time to put this out to listeners for them to consider as well.

This episode is a sort of thought experiment. We’ll dive into a number of questions regarding my own realities when it comes to hunting and what it is and isn’t, explore a hypothetical question of how long it would take for hunting ethics to breakdown, and lastly what this means for hunting in the future if my assumptions are correct.

This was not an easy episode to put together and I expect it will not be easy to listen to for some hunters out there who believe that their own version of hunting is the REAL version of hunting.

I’ll also dive into my concerns on whether or not echo chambers exist within minority factions of hunting communities and how that may be damaging to the future of hunting as a whole if left unaddressed.

Episode 120 is a loaded one and for those who decide to stick around, I hope it sparks conversation within your own small social circles so that we as a collective can begin to find solutions to the harsh reality of modern hunting culture.


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  • Introductions
  • The questions I’ve asked myself about hunting culture
  • Definition of “echo chamber”
  • What is the reality of hunting culture?
  • What is the future of hunting?
  • How many hunters do the right thing?
  • My experiences with others’ bad ethics
  • Who’s the real majority?
  • Is “what hunting is and isn’t” just a big echo chamber?
  • My thought experiment on human nature
  • Change comes from a desire to change
  • What is the future of hunting?
  • What is the reality of hunting?
  • What happens if hunting is voted out of existence
  • The attempt of the industry to change the narrative of what hunting is and isn’t
  • The hunting narrative isn’t working
  • Analyzing the kill shot
  • Final thoughts

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]]> This episode of the By Land Podcast might get uncomfortable for hunters because I’m going to take a very hard and very uncomfortable look at the reality of what hunting culture actually is in 2020. This is not a topic that I take lightly. I’ve been sorting this out in my head for a long time now and thought it was time to put this out to listeners for them to consider as well.

This episode is a sort of thought experiment. We’ll dive into a number of questions regarding my own realities when it comes to hunting and what it is and isn’t, explore a hypothetical question of how long it would take for hunting ethics to breakdown, and lastly what this means for hunting in the future if my assumptions are correct.

This was not an easy episode to put together and I expect it will not be easy to listen to for some hunters out there who believe that their own version of hunting is the REAL version of hunting.

I’ll also dive into my concerns on whether or not echo chambers exist within minority factions of hunting communities and how that may be damaging to the future of hunting as a whole if left unaddressed.

Episode 120 is a loaded one and for those who decide to stick around, I hope it sparks conversation within your own small social circles so that we as a collective can begin to find solutions to the harsh reality of modern hunting culture.


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  • Introductions
  • The questions I’ve asked myself about hunting culture
  • Definition of “echo chamber”
  • What is the reality of hunting culture?
  • What is the future of hunting?
  • How many hunters do the right thing?
  • My experiences with others’ bad ethics
  • Who’s the real majority?
  • Is “what hunting is and isn’t” just a big echo chamber?
  • My thought experiment on human nature
  • Change comes from a desire to change
  • What is the future of hunting?
  • What is the reality of hunting?
  • What happens if hunting is voted out of existence
  • The attempt of the industry to change the narrative of what hunting is and isn’t
  • The hunting narrative isn’t working
  • Analyzing the kill shot
  • Final thoughts

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]]> Emory Wanger 55faf2dde4b0ef3f50c609aa:59bee79cedaed881775f0903:5f67ebaeeb716a35bc482ae4 Mon, 21 Sep 2020 00:00:00 -0700 2652 120 full true #119 - Being Bad At Something Is Good For You with Mark Huelsing #119 - Being Bad At Something Is Good For You with Mark Huelsing Mark Huelsing is a Dad, Husband, hunter, and just so happens to work at Exo Mountain Gear.  However, in this episode, we go in a bit of a different direction.  No gear talk and no hunting stories (ok..maybe one).  I’ve always appreciated Mark’s insight that goes beyond the generic gear talk.  Anytime I need an outside opinion on something, he’s ready and willing to offer a thoughtful perspective.

This is NOT a gear episode.  Instead, this is more of a conversation you’d have at the end of a long day on the trail or hunt while sitting around a campfire.  We cover everything from why it’s good for you to be bad at something, the feeling of needing to be productive with your time in the outdoors while also wanting to relax, and the realization that some of us might not ever be the world's greatest hunter.

If you’re in the mood for a conversation that explores more than just gear and stories, this is the one for you.  I’m grateful Mark was willing to open up about these topics and I’d encourage each of you listening to do the same.  Ask yourself the hard questions and see what comes of it.

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  • Introduction to Mark
  • Where Mark gets his enjoyment from his early morning training
  • Thoughts on the crux of the need to feel “productive” in the woods when away from family
  • How hunting creates participation with nature
  • The contrast created by wanting to be relaxed in the field AND productive
  • Learning to allow your mind to run with it when you’re in the field
  • Where Mark’s outdoor story begins
  • The benefits of sucking at something
  • Mark's conscious decision to NOT be an amazing hunter in favor of spending more time with family (and being okay with it)
  • The desire to have a story and process over a result
  • The “pressure” in the industry to outperform everyone
  • Being honest about what you’re willing to sacrifice for
  • Taking advantage of opportunities when you have them
  • How to follow up with Mark
  • https://exomtngear.com/
  • https://exomtngear.com/pages/the-hunt-backcountry-podcast

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]]> Mark Huelsing is a Dad, Husband, hunter, and just so happens to work at Exo Mountain Gear.  However, in this episode, we go in a bit of a different direction.  No gear talk and no hunting stories (ok..maybe one).  I’ve always appreciated Mark’s insight that goes beyond the generic gear talk.  Anytime I need an outside opinion on something, he’s ready and willing to offer a thoughtful perspective.

This is NOT a gear episode.  Instead, this is more of a conversation you’d have at the end of a long day on the trail or hunt while sitting around a campfire.  We cover everything from why it’s good for you to be bad at something, the feeling of needing to be productive with your time in the outdoors while also wanting to relax, and the realization that some of us might not ever be the world's greatest hunter.

If you’re in the mood for a conversation that explores more than just gear and stories, this is the one for you.  I’m grateful Mark was willing to open up about these topics and I’d encourage each of you listening to do the same.  Ask yourself the hard questions and see what comes of it.

Show Notes and Links

  • Introduction to Mark
  • Where Mark gets his enjoyment from his early morning training
  • Thoughts on the crux of the need to feel “productive” in the woods when away from family
  • How hunting creates participation with nature
  • The contrast created by wanting to be relaxed in the field AND productive
  • Learning to allow your mind to run with it when you’re in the field
  • Where Mark’s outdoor story begins
  • The benefits of sucking at something
  • Mark's conscious decision to NOT be an amazing hunter in favor of spending more time with family (and being okay with it)
  • The desire to have a story and process over a result
  • The “pressure” in the industry to outperform everyone
  • Being honest about what you’re willing to sacrifice for
  • Taking advantage of opportunities when you have them
  • How to follow up with Mark
  • https://exomtngear.com/
  • https://exomtngear.com/pages/the-hunt-backcountry-podcast

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]]> Emory R. Wanger 55faf2dde4b0ef3f50c609aa:59bee79cedaed881775f0903:5f5bfd5c656dea08856d0bbf Mon, 14 Sep 2020 08:16:50 -0700 4450 119 full false #118 - Why You Should Consider Quitting Camouflage #118 - Why You Should Consider Quitting Camouflage Out of the blue in 2017 I realized I had been sitting on a pile of camouflage hunting gear that I only used once a year during the hunting season. For the remainder of the year, it sat in boxes gathering dust. Literally thousands of dollars worth of camo that I wasn’t using and wouldn’t use anytime outside of the hunting season.

I concluded it was time to quit camouflage and swap those items out with solids in order to optimize my purchases. Since doing so, I haven’t looked back.

This episode is a spin-off of the original article I wrote called “3 Reasons You Should Consider Quitting Camouflage.” It has since become my MOST popular article on the site so I figured I’d do a full episode going through the 3 reasons I think YOU should consider quitting camouflage as well.


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]]> Out of the blue in 2017 I realized I had been sitting on a pile of camouflage hunting gear that I only used once a year during the hunting season. For the remainder of the year, it sat in boxes gathering dust. Literally thousands of dollars worth of camo that I wasn’t using and wouldn’t use anytime outside of the hunting season.

I concluded it was time to quit camouflage and swap those items out with solids in order to optimize my purchases. Since doing so, I haven’t looked back.

This episode is a spin-off of the original article I wrote called “3 Reasons You Should Consider Quitting Camouflage.” It has since become my MOST popular article on the site so I figured I’d do a full episode going through the 3 reasons I think YOU should consider quitting camouflage as well.


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]]> Emory Wanger 55faf2dde4b0ef3f50c609aa:59bee79cedaed881775f0903:5f440014e664a56d863feaca Mon, 24 Aug 2020 11:26:21 -0700 2654 118 full false #117 - Backcountry Mountain Rifles with Tony Smotherman of Bergara Rifles #117 - Backcountry Mountain Rifles with Tony Smotherman of Bergara Rifles I’ve been on the hunt for a lightweight mountain rifle for a few years now and just recently learned of Bergara Rifles USA after a friend said I should check them out. I looked them up and reached out to learn more and the next thing I knew, I was on the phone with Tony Smotherman talking about the Bergara backstory. Since this is a backpacking podcast, I think we’re due for an episode regarding a backpacking-friendly mountain rifle. That’s exactly what the Bergara Premier Series Mountain Rifle 2.0 is. It’s light, durable, and comes in a number of popular hunting calibers.

This episode might be focused on getting to know Bergara and what they do best, but I think it’s more than that. Tony shares his personal story of how he got into the outdoors and I think it’s something a lot of people can relate to.

This is what I love about this podcast. I can cover something as simple as a backcountry rifle and the company that makes it while simultaneously driving home the idea that we all have something in common, regardless of where we are from and what we do in the backcountry.

For those backcountry hunters out there listening, you’ll FOR SURE want to check out Bergara after this episode. And for those non-hunters, I think you’ll still enjoy the episode from the perspective of learning about other outdoor cultures.


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  • Introduction to Tony and Bergara Firearms
  • Backstory on Tony Smotherman
  • How and why Tony got into the outdoor industry
  • Learning to chase your dreams and goals
  • Getting to know Bergara Firearms and their backstory
  • Bergara’s decision to build custom firearms
  • Employing veteran gunsmiths
  • The team behind Bergara
  • Product line comparisons
  • The importance of the weight of a rifle
  • The impact of rifle weight
  • Benefits of carbon fiber rifle stocks (vs. wood)
  • Choosing the right tools for the job
  • Learning not to sweat the small stuff
  • How to follow up with Bergara Firearms
  • https://www.bergara.online/us/
  • https://www.bergara.online/us/rifles/premier/mountain-2-0-rifle/
  • https://www.instagram.com/bergara_rifles/
  • https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC5_KVcmKS9L8VpFFCdCbO-g

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]]> I’ve been on the hunt for a lightweight mountain rifle for a few years now and just recently learned of Bergara Rifles USA after a friend said I should check them out. I looked them up and reached out to learn more and the next thing I knew, I was on the phone with Tony Smotherman talking about the Bergara backstory. Since this is a backpacking podcast, I think we’re due for an episode regarding a backpacking-friendly mountain rifle. That’s exactly what the Bergara Premier Series Mountain Rifle 2.0 is. It’s light, durable, and comes in a number of popular hunting calibers.

This episode might be focused on getting to know Bergara and what they do best, but I think it’s more than that. Tony shares his personal story of how he got into the outdoors and I think it’s something a lot of people can relate to.

This is what I love about this podcast. I can cover something as simple as a backcountry rifle and the company that makes it while simultaneously driving home the idea that we all have something in common, regardless of where we are from and what we do in the backcountry.

For those backcountry hunters out there listening, you’ll FOR SURE want to check out Bergara after this episode. And for those non-hunters, I think you’ll still enjoy the episode from the perspective of learning about other outdoor cultures.


Show Notes and Links

  • Introduction to Tony and Bergara Firearms
  • Backstory on Tony Smotherman
  • How and why Tony got into the outdoor industry
  • Learning to chase your dreams and goals
  • Getting to know Bergara Firearms and their backstory
  • Bergara’s decision to build custom firearms
  • Employing veteran gunsmiths
  • The team behind Bergara
  • Product line comparisons
  • The importance of the weight of a rifle
  • The impact of rifle weight
  • Benefits of carbon fiber rifle stocks (vs. wood)
  • Choosing the right tools for the job
  • Learning not to sweat the small stuff
  • How to follow up with Bergara Firearms
  • https://www.bergara.online/us/
  • https://www.bergara.online/us/rifles/premier/mountain-2-0-rifle/
  • https://www.instagram.com/bergara_rifles/
  • https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC5_KVcmKS9L8VpFFCdCbO-g

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]]> Emory R. Wanger 55faf2dde4b0ef3f50c609aa:59bee79cedaed881775f0903:5f316b6632dbe605de3d23d7 Wed, 12 Aug 2020 12:19:19 -0700 4688 117 full false #116 - All The Cameras In The World with Chris Niccolls #116 - All The Cameras In The World with Chris Niccolls Chris Niccolls has been reviewing cameras and camera systems on YouTube for years now. If the system exits, there’s a pretty solid chance he’s not only had his hands on it but he’s been able to run it through its paces and created a video about it. This is what Chris does; he learns about the tech, the features, and the capabilities of the entire camera system as a whole so YOU, the viewer, can decide whether or not it’s going to work for you or not.

This is exactly why I wanted to talk to Chris. To hear from his perspective what is important in a camera system and how to choose one of your own for backcountry adventuring.

If you’re into photography or videography and you’re searching for a system to call your own, this episode should no doubt help you in your search.


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]]> Chris Niccolls has been reviewing cameras and camera systems on YouTube for years now. If the system exits, there’s a pretty solid chance he’s not only had his hands on it but he’s been able to run it through its paces and created a video about it. This is what Chris does; he learns about the tech, the features, and the capabilities of the entire camera system as a whole so YOU, the viewer, can decide whether or not it’s going to work for you or not.

This is exactly why I wanted to talk to Chris. To hear from his perspective what is important in a camera system and how to choose one of your own for backcountry adventuring.

If you’re into photography or videography and you’re searching for a system to call your own, this episode should no doubt help you in your search.


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]]> Emory Wanger 55faf2dde4b0ef3f50c609aa:59bee79cedaed881775f0903:5f074ac89d05f51bdfa044b9 Mon, 20 Jul 2020 00:00:00 -0700 3955 116 full false #115 - Personal Growth and the "52 Hike Challenge" with Karla Amador #115 - Personal Growth and the "52 Hike Challenge" with Karla Amador Karla Amador is the co-founder of the 52 Hike Challenge, an organization dedicated to encouraging adventure and getting people outside. In this episode, we dive into Karla’s personal backstory and how she came to create the 52 Hike Challenge as well as how to deal with the negative self-talk that often happens when we’re in the middle of a physical or mental challenge.

Karla has a very relatable story that I think a lot of people can identify with and she’s willing to share it openly with others so they can learn from her journey. She has a big heart and an encouraging spirit!

Please enjoy this episode with Karla and thanks for tuning in!


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]]> Karla Amador is the co-founder of the 52 Hike Challenge, an organization dedicated to encouraging adventure and getting people outside. In this episode, we dive into Karla’s personal backstory and how she came to create the 52 Hike Challenge as well as how to deal with the negative self-talk that often happens when we’re in the middle of a physical or mental challenge.

Karla has a very relatable story that I think a lot of people can identify with and she’s willing to share it openly with others so they can learn from her journey. She has a big heart and an encouraging spirit!

Please enjoy this episode with Karla and thanks for tuning in!


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]]> Emory Wanger 55faf2dde4b0ef3f50c609aa:59bee79cedaed881775f0903:5eff75a3f00dfd0e1798abd7 Mon, 06 Jul 2020 00:00:00 -0700 3996 115 full false #114 - Learn By Doing With Aron Snyder of Kifaru #114 - Learn By Doing With Aron Snyder of Kifaru Aron Snyder is the President of Kifaru International, a household name and brand in the world of backcountry hunting.  When I first heard of Aron, I was commuting to and from work an hour each way and spent a lot of that time learning as much as I could from his experiences via podcasting because, at the time, I was beginning to get nice and cozy with the idea of backpack hunting.  I needed as much information as possible, and that’s what I got along with a lot of entertainment.

Aron has spent a lot of time in the field learning things that you can only learn by actually being there.  He’s succeeded, failed, and succeeded again, and as you’ll hear in this episode, it’s getting the reps in that count.  Nothing is a substitute for miles and time in the backcountry because that’s what actually teaches you what you need to learn.  

This episode with Aron Snyder is full of insight from a guy who designs packs for a living, runs a backcountry hunting company, and spends countless hours in the field doing the work.  When he speaks, listen closely and apply what he says to your own backcountry efforts.


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  • Introductions
  • Arons backstory and road to Kifaru
  • Kifaru’s product testing and revision process
  • Patrick’s background in the backpacking industry
  • On “chasing the lightweight rabbit”
  • How to change your approach for different backpacking styles
  • Designing for others, not yourself
  • Adapting for the situation you’re headed into
  • The approach to Kifaru design
  • Un-complicating the backpacking process
  • Learning how to backpack is a constantly evolving process
  • Learn from your failures
  • Shoot for the “happy medium” gear
  • Gear for the fun of it, and gear for the application
  • Different gear for different missions
  • More backcountry, fewer spreadsheets
  • How to followup with Aron and Kifaru
  • https://kifaru.net/
  • https://www.instagram.com/kifaru_intl/
  • https://www.facebook.com/kifaruinternational/
  • https://www.youtube.com/Kifarutube

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]]> Aron Snyder is the President of Kifaru International, a household name and brand in the world of backcountry hunting.  When I first heard of Aron, I was commuting to and from work an hour each way and spent a lot of that time learning as much as I could from his experiences via podcasting because, at the time, I was beginning to get nice and cozy with the idea of backpack hunting.  I needed as much information as possible, and that’s what I got along with a lot of entertainment.

Aron has spent a lot of time in the field learning things that you can only learn by actually being there.  He’s succeeded, failed, and succeeded again, and as you’ll hear in this episode, it’s getting the reps in that count.  Nothing is a substitute for miles and time in the backcountry because that’s what actually teaches you what you need to learn.  

This episode with Aron Snyder is full of insight from a guy who designs packs for a living, runs a backcountry hunting company, and spends countless hours in the field doing the work.  When he speaks, listen closely and apply what he says to your own backcountry efforts.


Show Notes and Links

  • Introductions
  • Arons backstory and road to Kifaru
  • Kifaru’s product testing and revision process
  • Patrick’s background in the backpacking industry
  • On “chasing the lightweight rabbit”
  • How to change your approach for different backpacking styles
  • Designing for others, not yourself
  • Adapting for the situation you’re headed into
  • The approach to Kifaru design
  • Un-complicating the backpacking process
  • Learning how to backpack is a constantly evolving process
  • Learn from your failures
  • Shoot for the “happy medium” gear
  • Gear for the fun of it, and gear for the application
  • Different gear for different missions
  • More backcountry, fewer spreadsheets
  • How to followup with Aron and Kifaru
  • https://kifaru.net/
  • https://www.instagram.com/kifaru_intl/
  • https://www.facebook.com/kifaruinternational/
  • https://www.youtube.com/Kifarutube

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]]> Emory Wanger 55faf2dde4b0ef3f50c609aa:59bee79cedaed881775f0903:5ee552f90749264175e29668 Mon, 15 Jun 2020 00:00:00 -0700 6131 114 full true #113 - Troubleshooting Backcountry Footwear with Josh Kirchner #113 - Troubleshooting Backcountry Footwear with Josh Kirchner There is no “one size fits all” solution for backcountry footwear.  The wall of shoes at your local outdoor store should be proof enough of that, but how in the world are you supposed to choose?  It’s a process, so Josh Kirchner is back on the show to share his journey with backcountry footwear.  In this episode, we dive into a discussion on where to begin finding the right boot or shoe and techniques on how to adjust the fit and feel of your footwear.

Josh is the voice behind Dialed In Hunter and several other great publications.  He’s put a lot of miles under his feet in the deserts of Arizona chasing wild critters and has learned a few things about what works and what doesn’t for him when it comes to backcountry footwear.  

If you’re struggling to figure out this whole footwear thing for backpacking, this is the episode you’ll want to tune into!

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]]> There is no “one size fits all” solution for backcountry footwear.  The wall of shoes at your local outdoor store should be proof enough of that, but how in the world are you supposed to choose?  It’s a process, so Josh Kirchner is back on the show to share his journey with backcountry footwear.  In this episode, we dive into a discussion on where to begin finding the right boot or shoe and techniques on how to adjust the fit and feel of your footwear.

Josh is the voice behind Dialed In Hunter and several other great publications.  He’s put a lot of miles under his feet in the deserts of Arizona chasing wild critters and has learned a few things about what works and what doesn’t for him when it comes to backcountry footwear.  

If you’re struggling to figure out this whole footwear thing for backpacking, this is the episode you’ll want to tune into!

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]]> Emory Wanger 55faf2dde4b0ef3f50c609aa:59bee79cedaed881775f0903:5ed4f36f816525165b9c3057 Tue, 02 Jun 2020 06:04:47 -0700 5379 113 full false #112 - Getting To Know Argali Outdoors #112 - Getting To Know Argali Outdoors Today, we’re getting to know Brad and Jason of Argali Outdoors. Together, they are the driving forces behind Argali Outdoors.  Knowing why you do what you do is the one thing that you can look back on when making both personal and business decisions and it’s pretty clear that Jason and Brad defined that first before doing anything else.

Brad was previously on the podcast discussing an Argali-produced film, but a few things have changed since then so I thought it would be great to have him back on to update everyone on what they’re up to nowadays.  If you want to get to know the guys behind the brand, you'll enjoy this one!


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]]> Today, we’re getting to know Brad and Jason of Argali Outdoors. Together, they are the driving forces behind Argali Outdoors.  Knowing why you do what you do is the one thing that you can look back on when making both personal and business decisions and it’s pretty clear that Jason and Brad defined that first before doing anything else.

Brad was previously on the podcast discussing an Argali-produced film, but a few things have changed since then so I thought it would be great to have him back on to update everyone on what they’re up to nowadays.  If you want to get to know the guys behind the brand, you'll enjoy this one!


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]]> Emory Wanger 55faf2dde4b0ef3f50c609aa:59bee79cedaed881775f0903:5eb87c90181d7d1aa6bbd43e Mon, 11 May 2020 10:48:01 -0700 3782 112 full false #111 - What I Would Do Differently On The PCT #111 - What I Would Do Differently On The PCT I wouldn’t change a single thing about my 2017 hike of the Pacific Crest Trail because what happened out there made it MY hike and I love it for what it was.  That said, we can’t help but reflect on the things we’d do differently.  I like to think of it as learning valuable lessons rather than being unhappy with various aspects of my hike.

I’ve had three years to digest my lessons learned and have come away with a short list of things I’d do differently if I had to do it all over again from scratch.  Some are PCT-specific while others are not.  Even if you’re not planning on hiking the PCT or any other long trail, I think you’ll benefit from some of the items on my list.


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  • Hiking for sponsors
  • Hike alone more
  • Simplified layering system
  • Hike in Altra Lone Peaks
  • Ditch my pack lid
  • Bring my nice camera
  • Hike slower for longer
  • Spend less time in town
  • No more resupply boxes
  • Garmin InReach instead of SPOT tracker
  • Bring my Wife
  • Not obsess about upcoming miles

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]]> I wouldn’t change a single thing about my 2017 hike of the Pacific Crest Trail because what happened out there made it MY hike and I love it for what it was.  That said, we can’t help but reflect on the things we’d do differently.  I like to think of it as learning valuable lessons rather than being unhappy with various aspects of my hike.

I’ve had three years to digest my lessons learned and have come away with a short list of things I’d do differently if I had to do it all over again from scratch.  Some are PCT-specific while others are not.  Even if you’re not planning on hiking the PCT or any other long trail, I think you’ll benefit from some of the items on my list.


Show Notes

  • Hiking for sponsors
  • Hike alone more
  • Simplified layering system
  • Hike in Altra Lone Peaks
  • Ditch my pack lid
  • Bring my nice camera
  • Hike slower for longer
  • Spend less time in town
  • No more resupply boxes
  • Garmin InReach instead of SPOT tracker
  • Bring my Wife
  • Not obsess about upcoming miles

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]]> Emory Wanger 55faf2dde4b0ef3f50c609aa:59bee79cedaed881775f0903:5ea46eddde7df11be0013447 Mon, 27 Apr 2020 00:00:00 -0700 1789 111 full false #110 - Calling Elk with Paul Medel #110 - Calling Elk with Paul Medel Paul Medel has spent a lifetime learning as much as he can about elk.  From the time he first heard a bugle on a tape as a young man, he knew he had to know more.  For over 20 years, Paul has been educating people on the ins and outs of how elk talk to each other and has helped countless hunters notch a tag during the fall hunting seasons.

In this episode, we get to know Paul and his passion for elk.  Even if you don’t hunt I think you’ll have a hard time not smiling from ear to ear while you hear Paul talk about why he loves calling elk so much.  His energy is contagious and I think you'll really like hearing from someone who loves what they do.

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]]> Paul Medel has spent a lifetime learning as much as he can about elk.  From the time he first heard a bugle on a tape as a young man, he knew he had to know more.  For over 20 years, Paul has been educating people on the ins and outs of how elk talk to each other and has helped countless hunters notch a tag during the fall hunting seasons.

In this episode, we get to know Paul and his passion for elk.  Even if you don’t hunt I think you’ll have a hard time not smiling from ear to ear while you hear Paul talk about why he loves calling elk so much.  His energy is contagious and I think you'll really like hearing from someone who loves what they do.

Enjoy!


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]]> Emory Wanger 55faf2dde4b0ef3f50c609aa:59bee79cedaed881775f0903:5e9b3b6aea6b285e7509b613 Mon, 20 Apr 2020 00:00:00 -0700 3513 110 full false #109 - Lessons Learned From Hiking And Backpacking With a Baby #109 - Lessons Learned From Hiking And Backpacking With a Baby When my Wife and I first got pregnant, I was told by far too many people to count that our days hiking and wandering the woods would be brought to a screeching halt. Demoralizing is putting it lightly but lucky for me, my Wife and I were on the same page and determined to figure out how to pair hiking and backpacking with having kids.

I’ve done several episodes before this one showcasing the experiences of others raising kids in the outdoors, but now that we have a solid year and a half under my belt (yep, still a lot to learn), I thought I’d share what we’ve learned so far.

By no means do we have it figured out. It’s a learning process each time we go out, but I think, for the most part, we’ve done a great job and had positive experiences. Heck, we even backpacked with our little girl when she was 9 months old!

If you have kids or want to have kids, I think you’ll find this episode pretty helpful and encouraging at the very least. If you don’t have kids, it will still be helpful because you likely know someone who has them and is struggling to get them outside, so now you can offer some tips and tricks.


Show Notes

  • When kids can ride in a kid carrier
  • Long-term thoughts on the Deuter Kid Comfort Pro
  • Layering up your baby
  • Wearing a kid carrier
  • Bring snacks!
  • Backpacking with a kid and kid carrier
  • Dealing with the elements
  • Making it a one-person job
  • Comfort for YOU is key!
  • Final Thoughts

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]]> When my Wife and I first got pregnant, I was told by far too many people to count that our days hiking and wandering the woods would be brought to a screeching halt. Demoralizing is putting it lightly but lucky for me, my Wife and I were on the same page and determined to figure out how to pair hiking and backpacking with having kids.

I’ve done several episodes before this one showcasing the experiences of others raising kids in the outdoors, but now that we have a solid year and a half under my belt (yep, still a lot to learn), I thought I’d share what we’ve learned so far.

By no means do we have it figured out. It’s a learning process each time we go out, but I think, for the most part, we’ve done a great job and had positive experiences. Heck, we even backpacked with our little girl when she was 9 months old!

If you have kids or want to have kids, I think you’ll find this episode pretty helpful and encouraging at the very least. If you don’t have kids, it will still be helpful because you likely know someone who has them and is struggling to get them outside, so now you can offer some tips and tricks.


Show Notes

  • When kids can ride in a kid carrier
  • Long-term thoughts on the Deuter Kid Comfort Pro
  • Layering up your baby
  • Wearing a kid carrier
  • Bring snacks!
  • Backpacking with a kid and kid carrier
  • Dealing with the elements
  • Making it a one-person job
  • Comfort for YOU is key!
  • Final Thoughts

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]]> Emory Wanger 55faf2dde4b0ef3f50c609aa:59bee79cedaed881775f0903:5e88a7c73d751119c50273fb Mon, 06 Apr 2020 00:00:00 -0700 1324 109 full false #108 - Gather Knowledge, Not Gear with Dan Solsman #108 - Gather Knowledge, Not Gear with Dan Solsman Dan Solsman found himself caught up in the rat race of collecting more gear rather than more knowledge.  Each year would bring new gear that marketing told him he had to have to be successful. Realizing he was on a never-ending cycle of chasing the latest and greatest, he decided to stop the bus, get off, and begin chasing down more knowledge rather than more gear.

We often think new or better gear will make up for our lack of skills, dedication, and training, but all it does is put a dent in our wallets and leave us wanting something more.

In this episode, Dan shares his thoughts on going from gathering gear to gathering knowledge and what’s happened since making the shift.

Show Notes and Links

  • Introductions
  • Dan’s philosophy on collecting gear instead of skills
  • How streamlining your gear enhances the experience
  • Dan’s decision NOT to wear camouflage
  • On how to be selective with gear
  • On working on your weaknesses
  • Learning to be patient
  • what you need versus what you think you need
  • How challenges can recalibrate your mind
  • We all start somewhere
  • Closing thoughts
  • https://www.instagram.com/dansolsman/

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]]> Dan Solsman found himself caught up in the rat race of collecting more gear rather than more knowledge.  Each year would bring new gear that marketing told him he had to have to be successful. Realizing he was on a never-ending cycle of chasing the latest and greatest, he decided to stop the bus, get off, and begin chasing down more knowledge rather than more gear.

We often think new or better gear will make up for our lack of skills, dedication, and training, but all it does is put a dent in our wallets and leave us wanting something more.

In this episode, Dan shares his thoughts on going from gathering gear to gathering knowledge and what’s happened since making the shift.

Show Notes and Links

  • Introductions
  • Dan’s philosophy on collecting gear instead of skills
  • How streamlining your gear enhances the experience
  • Dan’s decision NOT to wear camouflage
  • On how to be selective with gear
  • On working on your weaknesses
  • Learning to be patient
  • what you need versus what you think you need
  • How challenges can recalibrate your mind
  • We all start somewhere
  • Closing thoughts
  • https://www.instagram.com/dansolsman/

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]]> Emory Wanger 55faf2dde4b0ef3f50c609aa:59bee79cedaed881775f0903:5e778c81f476076330a84c5c Mon, 23 Mar 2020 00:00:00 -0700 3471 108 full true #107 - The Coronavirus, The PCT, and Backcountry Decision Making #107 - The Coronavirus, The PCT, and Backcountry Decision Making The Coronavirus is impacting the dreams and aspirations of a LOT of thru hikers so I wanted to take a few minutes to talk about how those impacted can cope with it. I also dive into backcountry decision-making and why it’s an essential skill to hone.

Even if you’re not thru-hiking this year, there are some concepts in this episode I think you can apply to your own hikes and adventures.

Show Notes

  • Introduction
  • Thoughts for hikers who are missing their hike
  • Thoughts for hikers who CAN hike but wonder if they SHOULD hike
  • Thoughts on backcountry decision making

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]]> The Coronavirus is impacting the dreams and aspirations of a LOT of thru hikers so I wanted to take a few minutes to talk about how those impacted can cope with it. I also dive into backcountry decision-making and why it’s an essential skill to hone.

Even if you’re not thru-hiking this year, there are some concepts in this episode I think you can apply to your own hikes and adventures.

Show Notes

  • Introduction
  • Thoughts for hikers who are missing their hike
  • Thoughts for hikers who CAN hike but wonder if they SHOULD hike
  • Thoughts on backcountry decision making

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]]> Emory Wanger 55faf2dde4b0ef3f50c609aa:59bee79cedaed881775f0903:5e6eb2a5ea160c0c82c91721 Mon, 16 Mar 2020 06:30:00 -0700 983 107 full false #106 - How To Start Backpacking and Hiking Alone #106 - How To Start Backpacking and Hiking Alone Backpacking alone is not the easiest thing in the world to do.  It can be downright uncomfortable or even scary at first, but if you’re willing to put in the work, being alone in the backcountry can be pretty darn incredible. 

In this episode, I’m going to share with you what I’ve learned about backpacking and hiking alone and give you some tips and tricks on how you can get there yourself.

I won’t just cover HOW to backpack alone, but WHY you’d want to do so in the first place and what my personal journey has been (successes and failures).

Wherever you’re at in your backpacking journey, this episode will help you go from constantly having to hike in a group or with a partner to embarking on an adventure by yourself.


Show Notes

  • Why backpack alone
  • Benefits of backpacking alone
  • My personal journey learning to backpack alone
  • How my failures prepared me for success being alone
  • My first time hiking alone for some distance
  • A turning point in being alone on the PCT
  • 8 Tips on how how to backpack, hike, or hunt alone
  • Final thoughts

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]]> Backpacking alone is not the easiest thing in the world to do.  It can be downright uncomfortable or even scary at first, but if you’re willing to put in the work, being alone in the backcountry can be pretty darn incredible. 

In this episode, I’m going to share with you what I’ve learned about backpacking and hiking alone and give you some tips and tricks on how you can get there yourself.

I won’t just cover HOW to backpack alone, but WHY you’d want to do so in the first place and what my personal journey has been (successes and failures).

Wherever you’re at in your backpacking journey, this episode will help you go from constantly having to hike in a group or with a partner to embarking on an adventure by yourself.


Show Notes

  • Why backpack alone
  • Benefits of backpacking alone
  • My personal journey learning to backpack alone
  • How my failures prepared me for success being alone
  • My first time hiking alone for some distance
  • A turning point in being alone on the PCT
  • 8 Tips on how how to backpack, hike, or hunt alone
  • Final thoughts

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]]> Emory Wanger 55faf2dde4b0ef3f50c609aa:59bee79cedaed881775f0903:5e63dce9d4727449f09ffea3 Mon, 09 Mar 2020 00:00:00 -0700 1749 106 full false #105 - Fighting The War On Poaching In Africa with The Eco Defense Group #105 - Fighting The War On Poaching In Africa with The Eco Defense Group The Eco Defense Group is a non-profit organization whose mission is to help train and equip personnel on the front lines of the poaching war in Africa.  On this episode, the President of EDGE, Nathan Edmondson, joins me to talk about the organization, what they do to fight poaching of African game animals, and what we can do to help.


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]]> The Eco Defense Group is a non-profit organization whose mission is to help train and equip personnel on the front lines of the poaching war in Africa.  On this episode, the President of EDGE, Nathan Edmondson, joins me to talk about the organization, what they do to fight poaching of African game animals, and what we can do to help.


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]]> Emory Wanger 55faf2dde4b0ef3f50c609aa:59bee79cedaed881775f0903:5e51d7253ed02b41f4411574 Mon, 24 Feb 2020 00:00:00 -0800 3070 105 full false #104 - How To Hike Big Miles #104 - How To Hike Big Miles I never thought in a million years I’d be able to hike 20-30 miles in a single day, but if I follow a specific strategy and plan, I can.

In this episode, I’m going to dive into my process for hiking big miles.  From start to finish, I’ll walk you through my approach and even cove the benefits of hiking so many miles in a single day.

If you dream of hiking a long trail or want to pack in more miles, more views, and more experiences into your weekend trips, this episode is for you!

Show Notes

  • Defining what a “big” day is
  • Benefits to hiking bigger miles
  • My step by step process for hiking big miles
  • Efficiency
  • Speed versus time
  • Hike in intervals and take scheduled breaks
  • Feed your body (https://www.v2pnutrition.com/)
  • Reducing pack weight
  • Self care
  • Proper planning
  • Closing thought



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]]> I never thought in a million years I’d be able to hike 20-30 miles in a single day, but if I follow a specific strategy and plan, I can.

In this episode, I’m going to dive into my process for hiking big miles.  From start to finish, I’ll walk you through my approach and even cove the benefits of hiking so many miles in a single day.

If you dream of hiking a long trail or want to pack in more miles, more views, and more experiences into your weekend trips, this episode is for you!

Show Notes

  • Defining what a “big” day is
  • Benefits to hiking bigger miles
  • My step by step process for hiking big miles
  • Efficiency
  • Speed versus time
  • Hike in intervals and take scheduled breaks
  • Feed your body (https://www.v2pnutrition.com/)
  • Reducing pack weight
  • Self care
  • Proper planning
  • Closing thought



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]]> Emory Wanger 55faf2dde4b0ef3f50c609aa:59bee79cedaed881775f0903:5e3dab45aafa9459cfd575cc Mon, 10 Feb 2020 00:00:00 -0800 2059 104 full false #103 - How A Passion Project Can Turn Into A Real Job with Josh Kirchner #103 - How A Passion Project Can Turn Into A Real Job with Josh Kirchner I’ve had a lot of conversations over the years with people thinking about producing outdoor media but don’t know if it’s worth doing.  They have a voice but either don’t know where to begin or just need a little nudge to overcome the fear of putting themselves out there.  If that’s you, this episode is for you.

I asked my good friend Josh Kirchner on the show to discuss his journey with his website, Dialed In Hunter.  What began as a passion project writing articles for free has now become something that Josh gets paid to do. 

Josh and I dive into the weirdness of starting something online and discuss the personal benefits that can come of it even if you never see a single cent come your way.


Show Notes and Links

  • Introductions
  • How Josh found himself writing about hunting
  • Exploring the idea of finding a “voice”
  • Deciding what to share and talk about with an audience
  • Josh’s startup story and getting past the “weird” part
  • On being honest and genuine
  • Dreams versus reality
  • What publications WANT to see from writers
  • On honing your craft
  • Finding the “why”
  • When to know you can charge for your work
  • Friendships that come from putting your work out there
  • Josh’s future goals
  • Final thoughts and Advice
  • How to follow up with Josh online
  • http://dialedinhunter.com/
  • https://www.instagram.com/dialedinhunter/
  • https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC6ItIjVnltPYvPWohOPk0dQ

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]]> I’ve had a lot of conversations over the years with people thinking about producing outdoor media but don’t know if it’s worth doing.  They have a voice but either don’t know where to begin or just need a little nudge to overcome the fear of putting themselves out there.  If that’s you, this episode is for you.

I asked my good friend Josh Kirchner on the show to discuss his journey with his website, Dialed In Hunter.  What began as a passion project writing articles for free has now become something that Josh gets paid to do. 

Josh and I dive into the weirdness of starting something online and discuss the personal benefits that can come of it even if you never see a single cent come your way.


Show Notes and Links

  • Introductions
  • How Josh found himself writing about hunting
  • Exploring the idea of finding a “voice”
  • Deciding what to share and talk about with an audience
  • Josh’s startup story and getting past the “weird” part
  • On being honest and genuine
  • Dreams versus reality
  • What publications WANT to see from writers
  • On honing your craft
  • Finding the “why”
  • When to know you can charge for your work
  • Friendships that come from putting your work out there
  • Josh’s future goals
  • Final thoughts and Advice
  • How to follow up with Josh online
  • http://dialedinhunter.com/
  • https://www.instagram.com/dialedinhunter/
  • https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC6ItIjVnltPYvPWohOPk0dQ

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]]> Emory Wanger 55faf2dde4b0ef3f50c609aa:59bee79cedaed881775f0903:5e373fe526acc86be002a8b3 Mon, 03 Feb 2020 00:00:00 -0800 4575 103 full false #102 - How to Save Money and Make Better Gear Choices #102 - How to Save Money and Make Better Gear Choices In this episode, I'm diving into how you can save money and optimize your next gear purchase.  I’ve spent a lot of money on gear over the years and only recently did I realize I haven’t done a very good job with it, but I know better now and you can learn from my mistakes.


Show Notes

  • Introduction to shopping for new gear
  • Mistakes I’ve made when shopping for new gear
  • Three examples of my screw-ups
  • What’s wrong with how I’ve been purchasing gear?
  • What should I do differently going forward?
  • Buy gear that moves the needle, expands capability and comfort
  • An example of doing it right
  • My real-world example of a current decision
  • Closing thoughts


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]]> In this episode, I'm diving into how you can save money and optimize your next gear purchase.  I’ve spent a lot of money on gear over the years and only recently did I realize I haven’t done a very good job with it, but I know better now and you can learn from my mistakes.


Show Notes

  • Introduction to shopping for new gear
  • Mistakes I’ve made when shopping for new gear
  • Three examples of my screw-ups
  • What’s wrong with how I’ve been purchasing gear?
  • What should I do differently going forward?
  • Buy gear that moves the needle, expands capability and comfort
  • An example of doing it right
  • My real-world example of a current decision
  • Closing thoughts


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]]> Emory Wanger 55faf2dde4b0ef3f50c609aa:59bee79cedaed881775f0903:5e288e9bd2e9fa1df8fbc5d5 Mon, 27 Jan 2020 00:00:00 -0800 1704 102 full false #101 - Lessons From 2019 And the Future of This Podcast #101 - Lessons From 2019 And the Future of This Podcast I’m flying solo and sharing my lessons learned from 2019.  These are just a handful of takeaways that I’ve come up with that I believe are worth sharing with you in hopes that maybe you can learn something from my experiences.  I’ll also be detailing some exciting changes to the podcast that will ensure I get back to regularly uploading weekly.  


Show Notes and Links

  • The future of The Podcast
  • Lessons learned Never underestimate the Power of Cheap gear
  • Backpacking with a baby is 100% possible
  • As life changes, so do our outdoor adventures and goals.
  • You can have a bad day in the woods.
  • I’m still learning
  • I learned I enjoy backpacking or hunting to document something or someone.
  • How and When to Use Fleece
  • My inexpensive Wrangler pants 

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]]> I’m flying solo and sharing my lessons learned from 2019.  These are just a handful of takeaways that I’ve come up with that I believe are worth sharing with you in hopes that maybe you can learn something from my experiences.  I’ll also be detailing some exciting changes to the podcast that will ensure I get back to regularly uploading weekly.  


Show Notes and Links

  • The future of The Podcast
  • Lessons learned Never underestimate the Power of Cheap gear
  • Backpacking with a baby is 100% possible
  • As life changes, so do our outdoor adventures and goals.
  • You can have a bad day in the woods.
  • I’m still learning
  • I learned I enjoy backpacking or hunting to document something or someone.
  • How and When to Use Fleece
  • My inexpensive Wrangler pants 

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]]> Emory Wanger 55faf2dde4b0ef3f50c609aa:59bee79cedaed881775f0903:5e1918a5a252892821a54d06 Mon, 20 Jan 2020 00:00:00 -0800 2223 101 full true #100 - Long Distance Relationships for Long Distance Trails #100 - Long Distance Relationships for Long Distance Trails To celebrate Episode 100, my Wife, Jessica, joins me on the podcast to talk about what it was like for her when I hiked the PCT in 2017.  We hear about the trials of a hiker, but we never hear from the loved one at home waiting for a hike to end.  

Those we love reliably answer poorly timed phone calls, offer encouragement when in need of their own, ship off items to random locations they’ve never been to in hopes that it arrives in time, and patiently wait at home praying for the safety of their hiker. They balance the load for us emotionally and their voices are often never heard.

When the hike is complete, they don’t have memories of tall peaks, beautiful valleys, or quiet morning walks in the woods. Instead, they’re left to know the trail from afar, merely peering inside from time to time in hopes of gleaning some form of relief. If they could be there, they would.

For me, Jess was my rock and the only reason I hiked so many miles.  She was far more dedicated to me than I was to the trail and I’ll forever be grateful for all she did.

This episode is dedicated to all those who support thru-hikers on long trails.  You’ll never really know how important you are to the journey.


Show Notes

  • When Emory first told Jess about the PCT
  • Our approach
  • The proposal
  • Why so confident?
  • Relationship prep leading up to the trail
  • Planning visits
  • The importance of being all in
  • Jess’ connection to the trail
  • Saying goodbye
  • Dealing with the lack of information
  • Benefits of a GPS tracker 
  • What it’s like on the other side of things
  • How short videos helped us feel connected
  • Visiting Emory on the trail
  • Pros and Cons of visits
  • Saying goodbye after a visit
  • Observing hiking habits
  • How to handle your partner when they want to quit
  • When and how to communicate feelings
  • Jess’ worst goodbye
  • Looking to Canada 
  • The smell of a hiker
  • What the trail means to Jess
  • What it’s like being an “outsider” to the hiking world
  • Advice to family and friends AFTER the trail
  • The dynamics of a partner wanting to be there
  • Watching the trail to life transition
  • What about hiking WITH your hiker?
  • What helped the MOST to feel close
  • Concerns about thru-hiking becoming a habit 
  • How to deal with the desire to hike

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]]> To celebrate Episode 100, my Wife, Jessica, joins me on the podcast to talk about what it was like for her when I hiked the PCT in 2017.  We hear about the trials of a hiker, but we never hear from the loved one at home waiting for a hike to end.  

Those we love reliably answer poorly timed phone calls, offer encouragement when in need of their own, ship off items to random locations they’ve never been to in hopes that it arrives in time, and patiently wait at home praying for the safety of their hiker. They balance the load for us emotionally and their voices are often never heard.

When the hike is complete, they don’t have memories of tall peaks, beautiful valleys, or quiet morning walks in the woods. Instead, they’re left to know the trail from afar, merely peering inside from time to time in hopes of gleaning some form of relief. If they could be there, they would.

For me, Jess was my rock and the only reason I hiked so many miles.  She was far more dedicated to me than I was to the trail and I’ll forever be grateful for all she did.

This episode is dedicated to all those who support thru-hikers on long trails.  You’ll never really know how important you are to the journey.


Show Notes

  • When Emory first told Jess about the PCT
  • Our approach
  • The proposal
  • Why so confident?
  • Relationship prep leading up to the trail
  • Planning visits
  • The importance of being all in
  • Jess’ connection to the trail
  • Saying goodbye
  • Dealing with the lack of information
  • Benefits of a GPS tracker 
  • What it’s like on the other side of things
  • How short videos helped us feel connected
  • Visiting Emory on the trail
  • Pros and Cons of visits
  • Saying goodbye after a visit
  • Observing hiking habits
  • How to handle your partner when they want to quit
  • When and how to communicate feelings
  • Jess’ worst goodbye
  • Looking to Canada 
  • The smell of a hiker
  • What the trail means to Jess
  • What it’s like being an “outsider” to the hiking world
  • Advice to family and friends AFTER the trail
  • The dynamics of a partner wanting to be there
  • Watching the trail to life transition
  • What about hiking WITH your hiker?
  • What helped the MOST to feel close
  • Concerns about thru-hiking becoming a habit 
  • How to deal with the desire to hike

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]]> Emory Wanger 55faf2dde4b0ef3f50c609aa:59bee79cedaed881775f0903:5e133f20749ef14481037c74 Mon, 13 Jan 2020 00:00:00 -0800 5721 100 full true #99 - Getting To Know Garage Grown Gear with Lloyd Vogal #99 - Getting To Know Garage Grown Gear with Lloyd Vogal On this episode of The By Land Podcast, we get to know Garage Grown Gear and one of the co-founders, Lloyd Vogal.

Garage Grown Gear offers backpacking products you’re not likely to find in big box stores like REI. They focus on cottage brands that could be just one or two people deep and making products by hand.  By partnering with smaller cottage brands to represent them in their marketplace, these startups can grow significantly faster and reach a wider audience.  As GGG likes to say, it’s like the “farm to table” version of backpacking gear.

If you want to find new gear from up-and-coming brands, you’ll want to take Garage Grown Gear for a spin.


Show Notes and Links

  • Introductions
  • Lloyd’s background and the road to co-founding GGG
  • How Lloyd first got into watersports
  • What it was like being an outdoor guide
  • Standout lessons from the guiding life
  • Getting to know GGG
  • Who GGG carries
  • Why GGG is important to cottage brands for exposure
  • How GGG chooses who to showcase
  • Who’s GGG’s audience and customer base
  • Benefits of showcasing smaller cottage brands
  • Current trends in ultralight backpacking
  • The thing about ultralight backpacking…
  • What Lloyd enjoys most about GGG on a personal level
  • How to connect with GGG
  • GGG Website
  • https://www.instagram.com/garagegrowngear/
  • https://www.facebook.com/GarageGrown

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]]> On this episode of The By Land Podcast, we get to know Garage Grown Gear and one of the co-founders, Lloyd Vogal.

Garage Grown Gear offers backpacking products you’re not likely to find in big box stores like REI. They focus on cottage brands that could be just one or two people deep and making products by hand.  By partnering with smaller cottage brands to represent them in their marketplace, these startups can grow significantly faster and reach a wider audience.  As GGG likes to say, it’s like the “farm to table” version of backpacking gear.

If you want to find new gear from up-and-coming brands, you’ll want to take Garage Grown Gear for a spin.


Show Notes and Links

  • Introductions
  • Lloyd’s background and the road to co-founding GGG
  • How Lloyd first got into watersports
  • What it was like being an outdoor guide
  • Standout lessons from the guiding life
  • Getting to know GGG
  • Who GGG carries
  • Why GGG is important to cottage brands for exposure
  • How GGG chooses who to showcase
  • Who’s GGG’s audience and customer base
  • Benefits of showcasing smaller cottage brands
  • Current trends in ultralight backpacking
  • The thing about ultralight backpacking…
  • What Lloyd enjoys most about GGG on a personal level
  • How to connect with GGG
  • GGG Website
  • https://www.instagram.com/garagegrowngear/
  • https://www.facebook.com/GarageGrown

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]]> Emory Wanger 55faf2dde4b0ef3f50c609aa:59bee79cedaed881775f0903:5e110c0088456a2a6f42ee75 Mon, 06 Jan 2020 00:00:00 -0800 4272 99 full false #98 - Climbing Mount Everest and Learning To Be Uncomfortable with Woody Hartman #98 - Climbing Mount Everest and Learning To Be Uncomfortable with Woody Hartman Woody Hartman wasn’t expecting to climb Mount Everest in 2019, but sometimes life takes some exciting turns and before you know it, you’re doing something you never thought you would.

On this episode, we dive into how Woody found himself on the summit of Everest, what it took to get there, and what it all means now that it’s over. This is no doubt one of my favorite conversations because Woody is about as grounded as they come and allows us to peer into how he’s learned to adapt to changing life circumstances. He also walks us through his journey through how he learned to be comfortable being uncomfortable and why it’s so important to dream bit, take risks, and use our goals as a catalyst for other adventures and life situations.

You’ll love this episode with Woody!


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  • Introductions
  • Woody’s path to Everest
  • How Woody decided to climb
  • Learning to make uncomfortable decisions
  • Finding happiness being uncomfortable
  • The barrier to being uncomfortable
  • How imagination plays a role in preventing adventure
  • What pushes people to climb Everest
  • What drives us to push the limits
  • What climbing Everest means now that it’s over
  • Preparing for life after a big life goal/event
  • Learning to use big goals as a catalyst to a better place
  • How to center yourself when you’re in the middle of chaos
  • Woody’s 7 Summits project
  • https://www.gofundme.com/f/woodybravetrails
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]]> Woody Hartman wasn’t expecting to climb Mount Everest in 2019, but sometimes life takes some exciting turns and before you know it, you’re doing something you never thought you would.

On this episode, we dive into how Woody found himself on the summit of Everest, what it took to get there, and what it all means now that it’s over. This is no doubt one of my favorite conversations because Woody is about as grounded as they come and allows us to peer into how he’s learned to adapt to changing life circumstances. He also walks us through his journey through how he learned to be comfortable being uncomfortable and why it’s so important to dream bit, take risks, and use our goals as a catalyst for other adventures and life situations.

You’ll love this episode with Woody!


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  • Introductions
  • Woody’s path to Everest
  • How Woody decided to climb
  • Learning to make uncomfortable decisions
  • Finding happiness being uncomfortable
  • The barrier to being uncomfortable
  • How imagination plays a role in preventing adventure
  • What pushes people to climb Everest
  • What drives us to push the limits
  • What climbing Everest means now that it’s over
  • Preparing for life after a big life goal/event
  • Learning to use big goals as a catalyst to a better place
  • How to center yourself when you’re in the middle of chaos
  • Woody’s 7 Summits project
  • https://www.gofundme.com/f/woodybravetrails
  • https://www.instagram.com/woodys_unreality

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]]> Emory Wanger 55faf2dde4b0ef3f50c609aa:59bee79cedaed881775f0903:5dfd0eba8c5f97448f7f5b91 Mon, 23 Dec 2019 00:00:00 -0800 3611 98 full true #97 - How To Deal With Life After The Trail With Kyle O'Grady #97 - How To Deal With Life After The Trail With Kyle O'Grady On this episode, I talk with Kyle O’Grady of The Trail Tales Podcast about what it’s like dealing with the “Post Trail Blues.”  We talk a lot about the grand adventure when we’re ON it or look back at it fondly when we’re not, but we rarely talk about what it’s like after it’s all over.  For most of us, we’re left wondering what we’re supposed to do next. We’ve built an identity around this adventure and now that it’s no longer something to look forward to, we tend to slip into a slight depression.


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  • Introductions
  • Getting to know Kyle
  • What it’s like getting into podcasting and seeing it grow
  • Exploring podcasting topics
  • Kyle’s journey into backpacking and Thru Hiking
  • What happens mentally after a long trail
  • The emotional connection to a grand goal
  • The reality of post trail blues
  • How to cope with missing the trail
  • What it was like getting back out on the trail again
  • Kyle’s experience with being in his head
  • Advice for future thru-hikers
  • Trail Tales Podcast 
  • My Episode with Trail Tales 

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]]> On this episode, I talk with Kyle O’Grady of The Trail Tales Podcast about what it’s like dealing with the “Post Trail Blues.”  We talk a lot about the grand adventure when we’re ON it or look back at it fondly when we’re not, but we rarely talk about what it’s like after it’s all over.  For most of us, we’re left wondering what we’re supposed to do next. We’ve built an identity around this adventure and now that it’s no longer something to look forward to, we tend to slip into a slight depression.


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  • Introductions
  • Getting to know Kyle
  • What it’s like getting into podcasting and seeing it grow
  • Exploring podcasting topics
  • Kyle’s journey into backpacking and Thru Hiking
  • What happens mentally after a long trail
  • The emotional connection to a grand goal
  • The reality of post trail blues
  • How to cope with missing the trail
  • What it was like getting back out on the trail again
  • Kyle’s experience with being in his head
  • Advice for future thru-hikers
  • Trail Tales Podcast 
  • My Episode with Trail Tales 

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]]> Emory Wanger 55faf2dde4b0ef3f50c609aa:59bee79cedaed881775f0903:5ded1f794d5f2571c8d2bb68 Mon, 09 Dec 2019 00:00:00 -0800 4037 97 full true #96 - Recapping the PCT With Jon "Roadrunner" Frankson #96 - Recapping the PCT With Jon "Roadrunner" Frankson I started following Jon’s journey on the PCT before the PCT even happened for him. Once he got on the trail, I enjoyed every moment of his journey via social media.  He crushed miles early on, braved the snow in the Sierra, and ultimately arrived at the Northern Terminus on his own terms.


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  • Introductions
  • Jon’s backpacking backstory
  • How the PCT became a reality
  • How the beginning of the trail felt
  • When reality sets in on the PCT
  • Hiking the desert
  • Dealing with and addressing “fear-mongering”
  • Finding and learning your limits
  • Decision-making process
  • Addressing the snow in the Sierra
  • Why the PCT and backpacking is so important to Jon
  • Dealing with emotions on the trail
  • Nearing the end of the trail
  • What it means to “miss” the trail
  • Life after the trail
  • Lessons learned from the PCT
  • How daily routing dictates gear selection
  • Jon’s journey with photography while hiking
  • Plans for follow-on trails
  • Closing thoughts
  • How to follow Jon online
  • https://www.instagram.com/jonathonfrankson

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]]> I started following Jon’s journey on the PCT before the PCT even happened for him. Once he got on the trail, I enjoyed every moment of his journey via social media.  He crushed miles early on, braved the snow in the Sierra, and ultimately arrived at the Northern Terminus on his own terms.


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  • Introductions
  • Jon’s backpacking backstory
  • How the PCT became a reality
  • How the beginning of the trail felt
  • When reality sets in on the PCT
  • Hiking the desert
  • Dealing with and addressing “fear-mongering”
  • Finding and learning your limits
  • Decision-making process
  • Addressing the snow in the Sierra
  • Why the PCT and backpacking is so important to Jon
  • Dealing with emotions on the trail
  • Nearing the end of the trail
  • What it means to “miss” the trail
  • Life after the trail
  • Lessons learned from the PCT
  • How daily routing dictates gear selection
  • Jon’s journey with photography while hiking
  • Plans for follow-on trails
  • Closing thoughts
  • How to follow Jon online
  • https://www.instagram.com/jonathonfrankson

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]]> Emory Wanger 55faf2dde4b0ef3f50c609aa:59bee79cedaed881775f0903:5dd8513aae846337fb5b87bc Mon, 25 Nov 2019 00:00:00 -0800 3214 96 full false #95 - The Outdoor Evolution of Darwin #95 - The Outdoor Evolution of Darwin This episode explores the personal backpacking journey of Darwin.  You’re going to hear what his life was like before backpacking and where it’s now headed.  Darwin explains the ups and downs of the trail, what inspires him to keep going, and what it means to be a Creative within the trail community.

If you need a bit of entertainment and some inspiration, this episode is going to do you some good!


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]]> This episode explores the personal backpacking journey of Darwin.  You’re going to hear what his life was like before backpacking and where it’s now headed.  Darwin explains the ups and downs of the trail, what inspires him to keep going, and what it means to be a Creative within the trail community.

If you need a bit of entertainment and some inspiration, this episode is going to do you some good!


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]]> Emory Wanger 55faf2dde4b0ef3f50c609aa:59bee79cedaed881775f0903:5db97f8dd6d3d15924993546 Mon, 11 Nov 2019 00:00:00 -0800 4969 95 full false #94 - Decoding the Mystery of Tripods with SLIK USA #94 - Decoding the Mystery of Tripods with SLIK USA Greg Napoli from Slik USA joins the podcast to help decode the mystery behind tripods.  He runs me through everything from top to bottom, explains why you may need one, and how to select the right tripod.

If you want to get educated on tripods, this episode is dedicated to you!

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]]> Greg Napoli from Slik USA joins the podcast to help decode the mystery behind tripods.  He runs me through everything from top to bottom, explains why you may need one, and how to select the right tripod.

If you want to get educated on tripods, this episode is dedicated to you!

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]]> Emory Wanger 55faf2dde4b0ef3f50c609aa:59bee79cedaed881775f0903:5db4d6a2628b613d418a64b0 Mon, 28 Oct 2019 00:00:00 -0700 4239 94 full false #93 - Elevation Change Documentary with Director Marion Mauran #93 - Elevation Change Documentary with Director Marion Mauran For the past 8 years, Marion Mauran has been producing a documentary about Sam Fox’s FKT attempt of the Pacific Crest Trail.  In this episode, Marion and I dive into what the documentary is about, how it came to be, and what she learned from the process.

If you’re a fan of documentary filmmaking paired with the outdoors, this episode will be right up your alley.


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]]> For the past 8 years, Marion Mauran has been producing a documentary about Sam Fox’s FKT attempt of the Pacific Crest Trail.  In this episode, Marion and I dive into what the documentary is about, how it came to be, and what she learned from the process.

If you’re a fan of documentary filmmaking paired with the outdoors, this episode will be right up your alley.


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]]> Emory Wanger 55faf2dde4b0ef3f50c609aa:59bee79cedaed881775f0903:5d9e04bc9e04806d3ec1d409 Mon, 14 Oct 2019 00:00:00 -0700 3003 93 full false #92 - Managing and Protecting the Pacific Crest Trail #92 - Managing and Protecting the Pacific Crest Trail If you’ve ever wondered how a trail that spans 2650 miles across three large states is managed and protected, this is the episode you will want to listen to.

Mark and Megan of the PCTA join me to talk about how the PCTA is working to protect the Pacific Crest Trail.  We discuss the history of the PCTA, what each of their roles is in the organization, how the PCTA works alongside the Federal Government to protect the trail, and finally, a discussion of a recent acquisition of land along the trail corridor that will help keep the trail safe.

This episode showcases the backbone of how these trails we love remain wild and safe for future generations to come.


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]]> If you’ve ever wondered how a trail that spans 2650 miles across three large states is managed and protected, this is the episode you will want to listen to.

Mark and Megan of the PCTA join me to talk about how the PCTA is working to protect the Pacific Crest Trail.  We discuss the history of the PCTA, what each of their roles is in the organization, how the PCTA works alongside the Federal Government to protect the trail, and finally, a discussion of a recent acquisition of land along the trail corridor that will help keep the trail safe.

This episode showcases the backbone of how these trails we love remain wild and safe for future generations to come.


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]]> Emory Wanger 55faf2dde4b0ef3f50c609aa:59bee79cedaed881775f0903:5d93b7e833c4fc181c72c9ce Tue, 01 Oct 2019 13:32:40 -0700 3948 92 full false #91 - How to Balance Your Love of Backpacking with Your Love of Family with Dan Kriesberg #91 - How to Balance Your Love of Backpacking with Your Love of Family with Dan Kriesberg What happens when you realize you love adventure as equally as you love being a parent?  In this episode, Dan Kriesberg joins me to explore the struggle of being present for adventure and being present for family. 

Dan is a family man, has been backpacking his entire life, and offers his thoughts on how to strike a balance between the two.

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  • Introduction to Dan
  • How Dan was introduced to backpacking
  • How backpacking has changed over the years
  • When and how backpacking changed for Dan 
  • Describing why backpacking is so important
  • Deep diving Dan’s email
  • How to find the balance of suburban life and adventures
  • How Dan’s decision to NOT chase a big adventure life has worked out 
  • Figuring out life seasons with family and backpacking
  • How to transition from family life to adventure life when you get the chance
  • Working to enjoy where you’re at
  • Dan’s words of wisdom for the rest of us
  • How to followup with Dan and read is essays
  •  https://dankriesbergcom.squarespace.com/
  • Dan’s Essay 

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]]> What happens when you realize you love adventure as equally as you love being a parent?  In this episode, Dan Kriesberg joins me to explore the struggle of being present for adventure and being present for family. 

Dan is a family man, has been backpacking his entire life, and offers his thoughts on how to strike a balance between the two.

Show Notes and Links

  • Introduction to Dan
  • How Dan was introduced to backpacking
  • How backpacking has changed over the years
  • When and how backpacking changed for Dan 
  • Describing why backpacking is so important
  • Deep diving Dan’s email
  • How to find the balance of suburban life and adventures
  • How Dan’s decision to NOT chase a big adventure life has worked out 
  • Figuring out life seasons with family and backpacking
  • How to transition from family life to adventure life when you get the chance
  • Working to enjoy where you’re at
  • Dan’s words of wisdom for the rest of us
  • How to followup with Dan and read is essays
  •  https://dankriesbergcom.squarespace.com/
  • Dan’s Essay 

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]]> Emory Wanger 55faf2dde4b0ef3f50c609aa:59bee79cedaed881775f0903:5d792bce5374421673072eeb Mon, 16 Sep 2019 00:00:00 -0700 3785 91 full false #90 - I Went Home Early, So Let's Talk About It #90 - I Went Home Early, So Let's Talk About It A goal of mine for 2019 was to bear hunt in an area I’d always wanted to explore.   I got the green light from Jess and headed out this past weekend for a solo backpack hunt, however when I arrived, my excitement wore off and I began to feel heavy.

I was glassing a basin for bears as the sun was going down, but it just wasn’t doing anything for me.  All I could think about was my little girl being tucked in at home and how better of an experience would be if she and my wife were here with me.  Hell, even just a walk in the woods would be more enjoyable than what I was currently doing.

I realized that I just wasn’t feeling it that day and as the sun went down, I packed my things and hiked out in the dark.

This episode explores what happened, why, and what it all means.


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  • My goals explained
  • What actually happened
  • Deep diving my thoughts
  • Ideas on why I packed it in early
  • Deep diving  those ideas
  • What it all means
  • Final Thoughts

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]]> A goal of mine for 2019 was to bear hunt in an area I’d always wanted to explore.   I got the green light from Jess and headed out this past weekend for a solo backpack hunt, however when I arrived, my excitement wore off and I began to feel heavy.

I was glassing a basin for bears as the sun was going down, but it just wasn’t doing anything for me.  All I could think about was my little girl being tucked in at home and how better of an experience would be if she and my wife were here with me.  Hell, even just a walk in the woods would be more enjoyable than what I was currently doing.

I realized that I just wasn’t feeling it that day and as the sun went down, I packed my things and hiked out in the dark.

This episode explores what happened, why, and what it all means.


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  • My goals explained
  • What actually happened
  • Deep diving my thoughts
  • Ideas on why I packed it in early
  • Deep diving  those ideas
  • What it all means
  • Final Thoughts

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]]> Emory Wanger 55faf2dde4b0ef3f50c609aa:59bee79cedaed881775f0903:5d6d138d14ca940001a5e8eb Tue, 03 Sep 2019 10:00:00 -0700 2349 90 full true #89 - Managing Backcountry Data with Jeff Balch of Basemap #89 - Managing Backcountry Data with Jeff Balch of Basemap Jeff Balch is the founder and creator of the mobile navigation app “Basemap.” If you’re familiar with using your phone as a GPS, you know how it works, but are you using it to its full extent?

In this episode, Jeff explains the origin story of Basemap, how it differs from other applications on the market, and how he personally manages his map data.

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]]> Jeff Balch is the founder and creator of the mobile navigation app “Basemap.” If you’re familiar with using your phone as a GPS, you know how it works, but are you using it to its full extent?

In this episode, Jeff explains the origin story of Basemap, how it differs from other applications on the market, and how he personally manages his map data.

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]]> Emory Wanger 55faf2dde4b0ef3f50c609aa:59bee79cedaed881775f0903:5d62c2a0f96d4d00018e2540 Mon, 26 Aug 2019 00:00:00 -0700 4388 89 full false #88 - Fly Fishing The Backcountry with Tenkara USA #88 - Fly Fishing The Backcountry with Tenkara USA Daniel Galhardo discovered the Japanese method of fly fishing called “Tenkara” while researching the fishing culture of Japan. After realizing how effective it was not only for fishing but for backpacking and backcountry travel, he decided to Introduce Tenkara to the United States and has been successfully doing so for over ten years.

I wanted to have Daniel on to talk about fly fishing in the backcountry, but I ended up getting so much more than that.  He has a great way of explaining things and is willing to dive into topics that create the foundation of our experiences in the backcountry. You don’t have to be interested in fly fishing to enjoy this episode because there’s so much great thought that Daniel brings to this episode that we could probably have a full-length one just on backcountry philosophy.

For those interested in experiencing the backcountry in a new way, you will enjoy this episode with Daniel of Tenkara USA!


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]]> Daniel Galhardo discovered the Japanese method of fly fishing called “Tenkara” while researching the fishing culture of Japan. After realizing how effective it was not only for fishing but for backpacking and backcountry travel, he decided to Introduce Tenkara to the United States and has been successfully doing so for over ten years.

I wanted to have Daniel on to talk about fly fishing in the backcountry, but I ended up getting so much more than that.  He has a great way of explaining things and is willing to dive into topics that create the foundation of our experiences in the backcountry. You don’t have to be interested in fly fishing to enjoy this episode because there’s so much great thought that Daniel brings to this episode that we could probably have a full-length one just on backcountry philosophy.

For those interested in experiencing the backcountry in a new way, you will enjoy this episode with Daniel of Tenkara USA!


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]]> Emory Wanger 55faf2dde4b0ef3f50c609aa:59bee79cedaed881775f0903:5d56b3666731ae00017282f8 Mon, 19 Aug 2019 00:00:00 -0700 3710 88 full false #87 - How Trails Are Designed and Built with Tyler Lau #87 - How Trails Are Designed and Built with Tyler Lau Tyler Lau is an experienced member of trail crews and even teaches how to build trails correctly.  In this episode, we dive into how trails are designed, built, and maintained. We also chat about the do’s and don’ts and where we, as hikers, can help keep trails in their proper conditions so trail crews can attend to other trails needing maintenance.

We also discuss diversity in the outdoors.  Tyler is the first person of color to complete the Calendar Year Triple Crown and I wanted to take the opportunity to find out what Tyler’s experience has been and how he sees diversity in the outdoor industry.


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  • Introductions
  • Catching up with Tyler since EP 69
  • Diversity in the outdoors and Tyler’s personal experiences
  • How to think about trail building
  • Scouting a trail
  • What makes a “good grade”
  • “Flagging” a trail for rework or future work
  • How trails are physical made
  • Deciding trail widths and tread
  • Trail building tools: the cross cut saw
  • Bridge building
  • Cutting Switchbacks
  • The cost of trail crews
  • How to learn more about trail building
  • Following up with Tyler
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  • https://www.facebook.com/hikingprodigy/


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]]> Tyler Lau is an experienced member of trail crews and even teaches how to build trails correctly.  In this episode, we dive into how trails are designed, built, and maintained. We also chat about the do’s and don’ts and where we, as hikers, can help keep trails in their proper conditions so trail crews can attend to other trails needing maintenance.

We also discuss diversity in the outdoors.  Tyler is the first person of color to complete the Calendar Year Triple Crown and I wanted to take the opportunity to find out what Tyler’s experience has been and how he sees diversity in the outdoor industry.


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  • Introductions
  • Catching up with Tyler since EP 69
  • Diversity in the outdoors and Tyler’s personal experiences
  • How to think about trail building
  • Scouting a trail
  • What makes a “good grade”
  • “Flagging” a trail for rework or future work
  • How trails are physical made
  • Deciding trail widths and tread
  • Trail building tools: the cross cut saw
  • Bridge building
  • Cutting Switchbacks
  • The cost of trail crews
  • How to learn more about trail building
  • Following up with Tyler
  • https://www.instagram.com/hikingprodigy
  • https://www.facebook.com/hikingprodigy/


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]]> Emory Wanger 55faf2dde4b0ef3f50c609aa:59bee79cedaed881775f0903:5d5056e97db7530001ce1422 Mon, 12 Aug 2019 00:00:00 -0700 3997 87 full false #86 - Six Overrated Training Methods with Rowan Smith #86 - Six Overrated Training Methods with Rowan Smith Rowan Smith is a personal trainer specializing in helping trekkers, mountaineers, and backpackers prepare for their upcoming adventures.

In this episode, we dive into an article he wrote regarding the “6 Overrated Training Methods for Trekkers” to discuss why these exercises are “overrated” and what might be done to correct or replace them with ones better suited for the backcountry traveler.


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]]> Rowan Smith is a personal trainer specializing in helping trekkers, mountaineers, and backpackers prepare for their upcoming adventures.

In this episode, we dive into an article he wrote regarding the “6 Overrated Training Methods for Trekkers” to discuss why these exercises are “overrated” and what might be done to correct or replace them with ones better suited for the backcountry traveler.


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]]> Emory Wanger 55faf2dde4b0ef3f50c609aa:59bee79cedaed881775f0903:5d47902d8eb45400015f68d0 Mon, 05 Aug 2019 00:00:00 -0700 4715 86 full false #85 - Back to Film with Nick "Click" Reichard #85 - Back to Film with Nick "Click" Reichard Nicholas Reichard is a thru-hiker who documents his trails with film cameras.  He's hiked the AT, PCT, and part of the CDT documenting his time on trail.  This episode dives into Nick’s background, how he first started Thru Hiking, why he decided to haul a film camera with him, what it’s like after being on trails, and the projects he’s currently working on.  


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  • Introductions
  • Backstory on Nick, hiking, and film photography
  • How Nick decided to hike the AT
  • Experiencing the AT as a new hiker
  • How to choose your shot with film
  • How shooting film changes perspective and approach
  • Planning the PCT hike: cameras and film
  • Sifting through the noise of camera and lens choices
  • Challenging yourself by setting limitations
  • Dealing with time away from the trail
  • What benefits a long trail can provide
  • Thoughts on hiking with family and loved ones
  • Projects Nick is working on
  • Thoughts on storytelling
  • On getting “likes”
  • How to followup with Nick and his work
  •  https://www.instagram.com/nicholasreichard/
  • https://www.facebook.com/nicholasreichard/

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]]> Nicholas Reichard is a thru-hiker who documents his trails with film cameras.  He's hiked the AT, PCT, and part of the CDT documenting his time on trail.  This episode dives into Nick’s background, how he first started Thru Hiking, why he decided to haul a film camera with him, what it’s like after being on trails, and the projects he’s currently working on.  


Show Notes and Links

  • Introductions
  • Backstory on Nick, hiking, and film photography
  • How Nick decided to hike the AT
  • Experiencing the AT as a new hiker
  • How to choose your shot with film
  • How shooting film changes perspective and approach
  • Planning the PCT hike: cameras and film
  • Sifting through the noise of camera and lens choices
  • Challenging yourself by setting limitations
  • Dealing with time away from the trail
  • What benefits a long trail can provide
  • Thoughts on hiking with family and loved ones
  • Projects Nick is working on
  • Thoughts on storytelling
  • On getting “likes”
  • How to followup with Nick and his work
  •  https://www.instagram.com/nicholasreichard/
  • https://www.facebook.com/nicholasreichard/

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]]> Emory Wanger 55faf2dde4b0ef3f50c609aa:59bee79cedaed881775f0903:5d2739fd2fc4ed0001bf0e40 Mon, 22 Jul 2019 00:00:00 -0700 4424 85 full false #84 - Trail Name Legend #84 - Trail Name Legend Jeff "Legend" Garmire has logged 21 thousand miles and counting at the time of this episode being aired.    Those miles include the Calendar Year Triple Crown, AZT FKT, and countless other endeavors.  What Jeff knows can apply to literally any backpacking trip, big or small, that you will ever do.  We cover everything from his early days of backpacking, how he deals with the mental struggles of the trail, speed versus efficiency, and his latest AZ Trail adventure.  You name it, we cover it and Jeff does so in a way that isn’t intimidating or hard to follow.


Show Notes and Links

  • Introductions
  • Connecting with others on the trail
  • Where and how Jeff’s backpacking story began
  • What the PCT culture was like when Jeff started
  • Jeff’s first PCT experience and how it compares to today
  • Deciding to hike again
  • Hiking the PNW Trail
  • Deciding to attempt an FKT
  • Mental vs. Physical
  • Techniques for staying mentally sharp
  • Planning out the AZ Trail FKT
  • Learning what your body is capable
  • Learning to hike big miles
  • Efficiency versus speed
  • Walking techniques
  • Hiking and being inside your head
  • Dealing with the mental redline
  • Thoughts on what a “backpacker” is and what it means to backpack
  • How to follow up with Jeff
  • https://www.instagram.com/thefreeoutside
  • https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCcFxqculFnBmXQo9HbYGKOQ
  • https://www.facebook.com/freeoutside/

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]]> Jeff "Legend" Garmire has logged 21 thousand miles and counting at the time of this episode being aired.    Those miles include the Calendar Year Triple Crown, AZT FKT, and countless other endeavors.  What Jeff knows can apply to literally any backpacking trip, big or small, that you will ever do.  We cover everything from his early days of backpacking, how he deals with the mental struggles of the trail, speed versus efficiency, and his latest AZ Trail adventure.  You name it, we cover it and Jeff does so in a way that isn’t intimidating or hard to follow.


Show Notes and Links

  • Introductions
  • Connecting with others on the trail
  • Where and how Jeff’s backpacking story began
  • What the PCT culture was like when Jeff started
  • Jeff’s first PCT experience and how it compares to today
  • Deciding to hike again
  • Hiking the PNW Trail
  • Deciding to attempt an FKT
  • Mental vs. Physical
  • Techniques for staying mentally sharp
  • Planning out the AZ Trail FKT
  • Learning what your body is capable
  • Learning to hike big miles
  • Efficiency versus speed
  • Walking techniques
  • Hiking and being inside your head
  • Dealing with the mental redline
  • Thoughts on what a “backpacker” is and what it means to backpack
  • How to follow up with Jeff
  • https://www.instagram.com/thefreeoutside
  • https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCcFxqculFnBmXQo9HbYGKOQ
  • https://www.facebook.com/freeoutside/

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]]> Emory Wanger 55faf2dde4b0ef3f50c609aa:59bee79cedaed881775f0903:5d27388d8d73de0001c52bbf Mon, 15 Jul 2019 00:00:00 -0700 3484 84 full false #83 - Q and A Solo Show #83 - Q and A Solo Show I’m rolling solo answering 12 questions that I found inside the “Backpacking” group on Facebook.  They range from basic to complex and newbie to experienced.


Show Notes and Links

  • Twist lock or Clip Lock Trekking Poles?
  • Any really good non-deet bug repellent? 
  • DIY Tyvek footprints
  • Favorite drink mix for water while on the trail?
  • Sometimes my pack gets heavy and I use my trekking poles to hold it up against the tree so I can put it on...
  • How does taking your significant other change what you do pre-trail and on ??
  • Looking for recommendations on a personal locator/tracker. 
  • Products to clean and restore water-repellent clothing or treat gear? 
  • Backpacking cots when camping in the backcountry? 
  • Thoughts on mountain bikes on hiking/foot path trails? 
  • Are there any other packs besides Osprey that are even worth looking at? 
  • Is there a noticeable difference in packed volume between down that is 950 vs 800? 
  • https://journalofmountainhunting.com/ep143-myth-busting-layering-apparel-systems/

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]]> I’m rolling solo answering 12 questions that I found inside the “Backpacking” group on Facebook.  They range from basic to complex and newbie to experienced.


Show Notes and Links

  • Twist lock or Clip Lock Trekking Poles?
  • Any really good non-deet bug repellent? 
  • DIY Tyvek footprints
  • Favorite drink mix for water while on the trail?
  • Sometimes my pack gets heavy and I use my trekking poles to hold it up against the tree so I can put it on...
  • How does taking your significant other change what you do pre-trail and on ??
  • Looking for recommendations on a personal locator/tracker. 
  • Products to clean and restore water-repellent clothing or treat gear? 
  • Backpacking cots when camping in the backcountry? 
  • Thoughts on mountain bikes on hiking/foot path trails? 
  • Are there any other packs besides Osprey that are even worth looking at? 
  • Is there a noticeable difference in packed volume between down that is 950 vs 800? 
  • https://journalofmountainhunting.com/ep143-myth-busting-layering-apparel-systems/

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]]> Emory Wanger 55faf2dde4b0ef3f50c609aa:59bee79cedaed881775f0903:5d22858959005400016bd000 Mon, 08 Jul 2019 00:00:00 -0700 3152 83 full false #82 - Thru Hiking, Happiness, and Taking Action with Dylan Tonkin #82 - Thru Hiking, Happiness, and Taking Action with Dylan Tonkin I found Dylan Tonkin through his post on LinkedIn where he described what it was like hating his job, quitting, hiking a long trail, and finally starting his own business.

Dylan and I chat about his personal story and what he’s learned from it.  We discuss what it means to be happy, what it means to find happiness, and how important it is to pursue what you want by taking action.


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]]> I found Dylan Tonkin through his post on LinkedIn where he described what it was like hating his job, quitting, hiking a long trail, and finally starting his own business.

Dylan and I chat about his personal story and what he’s learned from it.  We discuss what it means to be happy, what it means to find happiness, and how important it is to pursue what you want by taking action.


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]]> Emory Wanger 55faf2dde4b0ef3f50c609aa:59bee79cedaed881775f0903:5d1922c8bbbadf000101be15 Mon, 01 Jul 2019 00:00:00 -0700 3529 82 full false #81 - Hunting the Himalayan Snow Cock with Matt Hardinge #81 - Hunting the Himalayan Snow Cock with Matt Hardinge Matt Hardinge is an upland bird hunter, backpacker, photographer, and filmmaker who has found a way to pair bird hunting with backpacking.  He joins the podcast to talk about a recent film about a hunt for the elusive Himalayan Snow Cock.  We cover everything from what the Snow Cock is, how it was introduced, why it’s so difficult to hunt, and what Pheasants Forever is doing to protect birds of all species so they can flourish as their natural habitat becomes increasingly damaged.


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  • Introductions
  • Matt’s background
  • Accessibility to public lands
  • Introduction to the Himalayan Snow Cock
  • How Matt found his way to pursuing this bird
  • What makes the Snow Cock so difficult to hunt?
  • How to hunt a Snow Cock
  • Transitioning from the standard bird hunt to a backpacking bird hunt
  • Why the bird was introduced into North America
  • Conservation in the world of birds
  • What habitat do upland birds need to survive
  • How hunting plays a role in the conservation of a species
  • The general feel for how bird populations are currently doing
  • Intro to the Pheasants Forever Organization
  • How acquiring land works with the Org.
  • How Matt came to do what he does
  • Why Matt is attracted to the outdoors
  • Recruiting new hunters
  • Matt’s favorite way to cook game birds
  • How to reach Matt
  • The film https://youtu.be/Ul7XJmBoGeg
  • https://www.pheasantsforever.org/
  • https://projectupland.com/
  • https://www.instagram.com/matthardinge/

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]]> Matt Hardinge is an upland bird hunter, backpacker, photographer, and filmmaker who has found a way to pair bird hunting with backpacking.  He joins the podcast to talk about a recent film about a hunt for the elusive Himalayan Snow Cock.  We cover everything from what the Snow Cock is, how it was introduced, why it’s so difficult to hunt, and what Pheasants Forever is doing to protect birds of all species so they can flourish as their natural habitat becomes increasingly damaged.


Show Notes and Links

  • Introductions
  • Matt’s background
  • Accessibility to public lands
  • Introduction to the Himalayan Snow Cock
  • How Matt found his way to pursuing this bird
  • What makes the Snow Cock so difficult to hunt?
  • How to hunt a Snow Cock
  • Transitioning from the standard bird hunt to a backpacking bird hunt
  • Why the bird was introduced into North America
  • Conservation in the world of birds
  • What habitat do upland birds need to survive
  • How hunting plays a role in the conservation of a species
  • The general feel for how bird populations are currently doing
  • Intro to the Pheasants Forever Organization
  • How acquiring land works with the Org.
  • How Matt came to do what he does
  • Why Matt is attracted to the outdoors
  • Recruiting new hunters
  • Matt’s favorite way to cook game birds
  • How to reach Matt
  • The film https://youtu.be/Ul7XJmBoGeg
  • https://www.pheasantsforever.org/
  • https://projectupland.com/
  • https://www.instagram.com/matthardinge/

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]]> Emory Wanger 55faf2dde4b0ef3f50c609aa:59bee79cedaed881775f0903:5d0bb0fd36a2180001494342 Mon, 24 Jun 2019 00:00:00 -0700 3406 81 full false #80 - Exo Mountain Gear Death Hike Recap #80 - Exo Mountain Gear Death Hike Recap This episode recaps my experience on the Exo Death Hike in 2019.  At the time of its release, it’s been one week since these events occurred, so it was important for me to capture my thoughts and get them down into an episode for others to learn from.

I cover what the Death Hike is, how it works, what it entailed this year, and most importantly, what I learned from it.  This hike is meant to push your limits, and it did just that.  There were a number of things that happened to my body that I think are worth talking about in hopes that others can learn from my experiences.

This podcast was created to help people backpack better. Sometimes we do well and sometimes we don’t.  What matters is that we continue to learn and share that knowledge with those around us.


Show Notes and Links

  • Intro to the Death Hike
  • What the Death Hike involved
  • How my body performed
  • Issues with eating and how to avoid a personal hunger strike
  • Feedback on the new Exo K3 Frame
  • Lessons learned 
  • Footwear
  • Pace
  • The importance of challenges
  • Stop comparing yourself to others
  • Passionate people doing passionate things
  • Gear highlights
  • Audience Q & A
  • Final Thoughts
  • https://exomtngear.com/

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]]> This episode recaps my experience on the Exo Death Hike in 2019.  At the time of its release, it’s been one week since these events occurred, so it was important for me to capture my thoughts and get them down into an episode for others to learn from.

I cover what the Death Hike is, how it works, what it entailed this year, and most importantly, what I learned from it.  This hike is meant to push your limits, and it did just that.  There were a number of things that happened to my body that I think are worth talking about in hopes that others can learn from my experiences.

This podcast was created to help people backpack better. Sometimes we do well and sometimes we don’t.  What matters is that we continue to learn and share that knowledge with those around us.


Show Notes and Links

  • Intro to the Death Hike
  • What the Death Hike involved
  • How my body performed
  • Issues with eating and how to avoid a personal hunger strike
  • Feedback on the new Exo K3 Frame
  • Lessons learned 
  • Footwear
  • Pace
  • The importance of challenges
  • Stop comparing yourself to others
  • Passionate people doing passionate things
  • Gear highlights
  • Audience Q & A
  • Final Thoughts
  • https://exomtngear.com/

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]]> Emory Wanger 55faf2dde4b0ef3f50c609aa:59bee79cedaed881775f0903:5d05534ce53ed50001103166 Sun, 16 Jun 2019 00:00:00 -0700 4106 80 full false #79 - Hike It Baby with Shanti Hodges #79 - Hike It Baby with Shanti Hodges Shanti Hodges is the founder of Hike It Baby, an organization that was built to encourage and invite young families to hike in the outdoors. In this episode, we dive into the origins of Hike It Baby, what it is, who it serves, and how it helps parents with young kids.

Even if you don’t have kids, this episode with motivate you, but if you do, this one is not something you’ll want to miss!

Show Notes and Links

  • Introductions
  • The backstory of Hike It Baby
  • The benefits of being outside with your child
  • Origins of Hike It Baby and why it was started
  • Organizing the organization
  • What it’s like hiking with Hike It Baby
  • The impact of Hike It Baby
  • Common personal barriers to hiking
  • The support structure
  • Goal setting and expectations
  • The power of community
  • Learning to hike with your kids
  • How to motivate your kids on trail
  • Expert advice for avoiding bad situations
  • Planning ahead of time
  • Tips and tricks
  • The future of Hike It Baby
  • The age range included
  • How to followup with Hike It Baby
  • https://hikeitbaby.com/
  • https://www.instagram.com/hikeitbaby/
  • http://www.hikingmyway.com/

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]]> Shanti Hodges is the founder of Hike It Baby, an organization that was built to encourage and invite young families to hike in the outdoors. In this episode, we dive into the origins of Hike It Baby, what it is, who it serves, and how it helps parents with young kids.

Even if you don’t have kids, this episode with motivate you, but if you do, this one is not something you’ll want to miss!

Show Notes and Links

  • Introductions
  • The backstory of Hike It Baby
  • The benefits of being outside with your child
  • Origins of Hike It Baby and why it was started
  • Organizing the organization
  • What it’s like hiking with Hike It Baby
  • The impact of Hike It Baby
  • Common personal barriers to hiking
  • The support structure
  • Goal setting and expectations
  • The power of community
  • Learning to hike with your kids
  • How to motivate your kids on trail
  • Expert advice for avoiding bad situations
  • Planning ahead of time
  • Tips and tricks
  • The future of Hike It Baby
  • The age range included
  • How to followup with Hike It Baby
  • https://hikeitbaby.com/
  • https://www.instagram.com/hikeitbaby/
  • http://www.hikingmyway.com/

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]]> Emory Wanger 55faf2dde4b0ef3f50c609aa:59bee79cedaed881775f0903:5cf1f050fefd0c00018d6612 Mon, 03 Jun 2019 07:08:43 -0700 3480 79 full false #78 - Backcountry Self Care with Rawlogy #78 - Backcountry Self Care with Rawlogy Marek is the founder of Rawlogy, a company that makes super lightweight massage balls for backcountry travelers. They’re eco-friendly, won’t take up space, and make it so you can give yourself better self-care when you’re battling muscle fatigue in the wilderness.

In this episode, we dive into who and what Rawlogy is, how massage balls work, and why Marek is doing this in the first place.

Show Notes and Links

  • Introductions
  • Making a sustainable product
  • Marek’s backstory
  • How rolling out can alleviate pain
  • How much Rawlogy balls weigh and what each are used for
  • How to implement self-care
  • Addressing IT bands
  • How impactful self-care actually is
  • Reviews since launch
  • What the journey of Rawlogy has been like
  • What the outdoors means to Marek
  • #shareyourballs
  • The future of Rawlogy
  • Differences in what products are available
  • How to reach Rawlogy
  •  https://www.rawlogy.com/
  • https://www.instagram.com/rawlogy/

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]]> Marek is the founder of Rawlogy, a company that makes super lightweight massage balls for backcountry travelers. They’re eco-friendly, won’t take up space, and make it so you can give yourself better self-care when you’re battling muscle fatigue in the wilderness.

In this episode, we dive into who and what Rawlogy is, how massage balls work, and why Marek is doing this in the first place.

Show Notes and Links

  • Introductions
  • Making a sustainable product
  • Marek’s backstory
  • How rolling out can alleviate pain
  • How much Rawlogy balls weigh and what each are used for
  • How to implement self-care
  • Addressing IT bands
  • How impactful self-care actually is
  • Reviews since launch
  • What the journey of Rawlogy has been like
  • What the outdoors means to Marek
  • #shareyourballs
  • The future of Rawlogy
  • Differences in what products are available
  • How to reach Rawlogy
  •  https://www.rawlogy.com/
  • https://www.instagram.com/rawlogy/

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]]> Emory Wanger 55faf2dde4b0ef3f50c609aa:59bee79cedaed881775f0903:5ce5c1714e17b6476d8dacc6 Mon, 27 May 2019 00:00:00 -0700 3146 78 full true #77 - Backpacking with Dogs and Effie Drew #77 - Backpacking with Dogs and Effie Drew Effie Drew has hiked thousands of miles with her dog Luna along some of the best trails the United States has to offer, and on this episode, we dive into what that looks like.  We cover everything from training for a trail, managing food and water, to deciding how much weight your dog can carry down a trail.


Show Notes and Links

  • Introductions
  • Effie’s background in backpacking
  • How Effie became interested in Thru-Hiking the AT
  • Remembering the AT
  • Effie’s decision to bring a dog to the AT
  • Reflecting on the AT and if dogs belong on the trail
  • What the “hiking” lifestyle looks like and requires
  • Heading into the second trail with a dog
  • Seeing Luna make decisions on her own based on experience
  • Training a dog to hike off-leash
  • Managing a dog’s well-being and health on trail
  • Training your dog to hike 
  • Learning to read your dog on trail to know how they’re doing
  • The connection with your dog after a trail
  • Gear for dogs and load carry
  • Caring for paws
  • Learning to push your dog at times
  • Feeding your dog on trail
  • Dealing with emotions on trail
  • Recovery for your dog
  • How to reach Effie for more information
  • http://www.babygotbackwoods.com/
  • https://www.instagram.com/babygotbackwoods_/
  • https://www.facebook.com/effie.drew

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]]> Effie Drew has hiked thousands of miles with her dog Luna along some of the best trails the United States has to offer, and on this episode, we dive into what that looks like.  We cover everything from training for a trail, managing food and water, to deciding how much weight your dog can carry down a trail.


Show Notes and Links

  • Introductions
  • Effie’s background in backpacking
  • How Effie became interested in Thru-Hiking the AT
  • Remembering the AT
  • Effie’s decision to bring a dog to the AT
  • Reflecting on the AT and if dogs belong on the trail
  • What the “hiking” lifestyle looks like and requires
  • Heading into the second trail with a dog
  • Seeing Luna make decisions on her own based on experience
  • Training a dog to hike off-leash
  • Managing a dog’s well-being and health on trail
  • Training your dog to hike 
  • Learning to read your dog on trail to know how they’re doing
  • The connection with your dog after a trail
  • Gear for dogs and load carry
  • Caring for paws
  • Learning to push your dog at times
  • Feeding your dog on trail
  • Dealing with emotions on trail
  • Recovery for your dog
  • How to reach Effie for more information
  • http://www.babygotbackwoods.com/
  • https://www.instagram.com/babygotbackwoods_/
  • https://www.facebook.com/effie.drew

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]]> Emory Wanger 55faf2dde4b0ef3f50c609aa:59bee79cedaed881775f0903:5ccc43040d9297405a419679 Mon, 13 May 2019 06:07:41 -0700 4126 77 full false #76 - Pack No Fears with Frans Diepstraten #76 - Pack No Fears with Frans Diepstraten Frans emailed me detailing his experience on a trail run in the mountains.  In years past, he would have brought a mountain of gear “just in case,” but this time, he packed only what he needed to move more quickly and cover more ground.  From this experience, Frans began to realize the difference between too much gear and too little.

In this episode, we discuss what can be achieved by bringing only the essentials and Frans’ journey in backpacking.

Lot’s of great stuff to think about in this one!


Show Notes and Links

  • Introduction to Frans
  • Thoughts on public lands having come from the Netherlands to Canada
  • The learning curve of backcountry hunting
  • What kept Frans going back after having a less-than-ideal experience
  • Reducing pack weight and living simply in the backcountry
  • Frans’ thoughts after an experience on a recent day trip
  • The great debate about how much gear to bring and when
  • On mental awareness in the backcountry
  • Exploring various gear load-outs
  • What opportunities exist when you reduce pack weight
  • Thoughts on using emergency beacons
  • Moving forward in future backcountry endeavors
  • How the hunting mindset has impacted other outdoor activities and adventures
  • How to follow up with Frans 
  • http://www.crooked-arrow.com/
  • https://www.instagram.com/_crookedarrow/

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]]> Frans emailed me detailing his experience on a trail run in the mountains.  In years past, he would have brought a mountain of gear “just in case,” but this time, he packed only what he needed to move more quickly and cover more ground.  From this experience, Frans began to realize the difference between too much gear and too little.

In this episode, we discuss what can be achieved by bringing only the essentials and Frans’ journey in backpacking.

Lot’s of great stuff to think about in this one!


Show Notes and Links

  • Introduction to Frans
  • Thoughts on public lands having come from the Netherlands to Canada
  • The learning curve of backcountry hunting
  • What kept Frans going back after having a less-than-ideal experience
  • Reducing pack weight and living simply in the backcountry
  • Frans’ thoughts after an experience on a recent day trip
  • The great debate about how much gear to bring and when
  • On mental awareness in the backcountry
  • Exploring various gear load-outs
  • What opportunities exist when you reduce pack weight
  • Thoughts on using emergency beacons
  • Moving forward in future backcountry endeavors
  • How the hunting mindset has impacted other outdoor activities and adventures
  • How to follow up with Frans 
  • http://www.crooked-arrow.com/
  • https://www.instagram.com/_crookedarrow/

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]]> Emory R. Wanger 55faf2dde4b0ef3f50c609aa:59bee79cedaed881775f0903:5ccc41aae4966b2d304b9241 Mon, 06 May 2019 04:00:00 -0700 3544 76 full false #75 - Connecting People and Places with the Washington Trails Association #75 - Connecting People and Places with the Washington Trails Association The Washington Trails Association is a great example of what is possible when people come together in a concerted effort to help ensure our trail systems are here to stay. 

In this episode, we dive into the history of the WTA, its reach, their projects, their mission, and everything else that makes up a trails association including what the future holds for our trail systems as well.


Show Notes and Links

  • Introductions
  • Backstory on the WTA
  • What the WTA is and what it does
  • How the WTA works
  • What’s possible with an org like the WTA
  • Partnering with other organizations
  • How trails were created and what prevents them from being maintained
  • The dream scenario and long-term plans
  • The impact of the outdoor economy
  • Investing in the outdoors
  • A return to the outdoors
  • Getting involved in a trail crew
  • A day in the life of a trail volunteer
  • Funding the WTA
  • What’s at risk by doing nothing to protect the outdoors
  • Education first
  • Finding a trail to hike
  • Learning to appreciate the small things on a hike
  • How to follow up with the WTA to learn more
  • https://www.wta.org/

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]]> The Washington Trails Association is a great example of what is possible when people come together in a concerted effort to help ensure our trail systems are here to stay. 

In this episode, we dive into the history of the WTA, its reach, their projects, their mission, and everything else that makes up a trails association including what the future holds for our trail systems as well.


Show Notes and Links

  • Introductions
  • Backstory on the WTA
  • What the WTA is and what it does
  • How the WTA works
  • What’s possible with an org like the WTA
  • Partnering with other organizations
  • How trails were created and what prevents them from being maintained
  • The dream scenario and long-term plans
  • The impact of the outdoor economy
  • Investing in the outdoors
  • A return to the outdoors
  • Getting involved in a trail crew
  • A day in the life of a trail volunteer
  • Funding the WTA
  • What’s at risk by doing nothing to protect the outdoors
  • Education first
  • Finding a trail to hike
  • Learning to appreciate the small things on a hike
  • How to follow up with the WTA to learn more
  • https://www.wta.org/

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]]> Emory Wanger 55faf2dde4b0ef3f50c609aa:59bee79cedaed881775f0903:5cc5bfc1e5e5f04e9503671e Mon, 29 Apr 2019 06:11:41 -0700 3832 75 full false #74 - Thru Hiking, Mindfulness, and Lyme Disease with Devin Everett #74 - Thru Hiking, Mindfulness, and Lyme Disease with Devin Everett Devin Everett might be one of the most motivating people to talk with.

This episode covers everything from what spurred her Thru Hike of the AT, her battle with Lyme Disease, finding a cause to hike for, and what it means to be mindful in the backcountry.  From start to finish, this chat with Devin is simply motivating.

If you need a feel-good episode that makes you want to get out and do more, this is the one for you!


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  • Introductions
  • Devin’s backstory
  • Leading up to Devin’s Thru Hike
  • Backpacking experiences prior to the AT
  • What it takes to Thru Hike
  • Realizations while on trail
  • Choosing to hike the PCT
  • Hiking for a cause
  • How hiking has helped Devin on a personal level
  • Tips for how to center yourself and meditate when backpacking
  • What it feels like going into trail number 2
  • Lyme Disease explained
  • What happens to the body with Lyme
  • Treatments
  • Symptoms
  • Checking for ticks
  • How ticks get on you
  • Common spots ticks are found on the body
  • Removal of ticks
  • Devin’s longterm plan
  • Devin’s thoughts on quitting a stable and reliable job to pursue a dream
  • https://www.devineverettyoga.com/
  • https://www.instagram.com/devineverettyoga/

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]]> Devin Everett might be one of the most motivating people to talk with.

This episode covers everything from what spurred her Thru Hike of the AT, her battle with Lyme Disease, finding a cause to hike for, and what it means to be mindful in the backcountry.  From start to finish, this chat with Devin is simply motivating.

If you need a feel-good episode that makes you want to get out and do more, this is the one for you!


Show Notes and Links

  • Introductions
  • Devin’s backstory
  • Leading up to Devin’s Thru Hike
  • Backpacking experiences prior to the AT
  • What it takes to Thru Hike
  • Realizations while on trail
  • Choosing to hike the PCT
  • Hiking for a cause
  • How hiking has helped Devin on a personal level
  • Tips for how to center yourself and meditate when backpacking
  • What it feels like going into trail number 2
  • Lyme Disease explained
  • What happens to the body with Lyme
  • Treatments
  • Symptoms
  • Checking for ticks
  • How ticks get on you
  • Common spots ticks are found on the body
  • Removal of ticks
  • Devin’s longterm plan
  • Devin’s thoughts on quitting a stable and reliable job to pursue a dream
  • https://www.devineverettyoga.com/
  • https://www.instagram.com/devineverettyoga/

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]]> Emory Wanger 55faf2dde4b0ef3f50c609aa:59bee79cedaed881775f0903:5cbc8951e2c483bb5cfe525c Mon, 22 Apr 2019 06:00:00 -0700 4071 74 full false #73 - Let's Talk Kid Carriers with Deuter #73 - Let's Talk Kid Carriers with Deuter Deuter kid carriers are some of the most acclaimed carriers out on the market today. After researching which pack I should use to haul my little girl around, the reviews and feedback always returned to those offered by Deuter.

In this episode, we chat with Liz Esche of Deuter, who walks us through the new 2019 lineup of kid carriers.  As a new father looking for help on what to look for in a kid carrier, I run through a laundry list of questions with Liz and learned several new things along the way.  We cover the new updates to the lineup, standard features, model differences, and the amazing Deuter Warranty.

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]]> Deuter kid carriers are some of the most acclaimed carriers out on the market today. After researching which pack I should use to haul my little girl around, the reviews and feedback always returned to those offered by Deuter.

In this episode, we chat with Liz Esche of Deuter, who walks us through the new 2019 lineup of kid carriers.  As a new father looking for help on what to look for in a kid carrier, I run through a laundry list of questions with Liz and learned several new things along the way.  We cover the new updates to the lineup, standard features, model differences, and the amazing Deuter Warranty.

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]]> Emory Wanger 55faf2dde4b0ef3f50c609aa:59bee79cedaed881775f0903:5cb0cc491861e20001d0de6b Mon, 15 Apr 2019 06:00:00 -0700 3465 73 full false #72 - Thru-Hiking Will Break Your Heart with Carrot Quinn #72 - Thru-Hiking Will Break Your Heart with Carrot Quinn Carrot Quinn is a long-distance hiker, blogger, and author of the book “Thru-Hiking Will Break Your Heart,” a memoir of her time on the Pacific Crest Trail.

We discuss her journey in long-distance hiking, why she decided to write a book about it, what that was like, and what backpacking means to her after all these years and experiences.  Additionally, Carrot shares with me some things that might be difficult for some to hear and understand, but this is what I love about this podcast and connecting with people who share a similar passion for the outdoors.  Because of backpacking, I had the opportunity to connect with someone about things I wasn’t aware of.  Now it’s on me to investigate these topics further for my knowledge and awareness.


Show Notes and Links

  • Introductions
  • Why Carrot decided to write her book on Thru-Hiking
  • On the process of writing and self-publishing
  • The dynamic of writing a book versus a blog post
  • Who Carrot was writing for
  • Breaking the mold of “what a backpacker is”
  • Exploring the narrative of the outdoors
  • The power of social media in exposing the unheard narrative
  • How we can help marginalized communities
  • Learning to be open to new ideas and concepts
  • The usage of public lands and the effects it can have on certain groups of people
  • How wilderness areas can impact issues on the US/Mexican border
  • The humanitarian crisis on border wilderness areas
  • How Carrot’s research on the border crisis has impacted her awareness of backpacking
  • What backpacking means now after the years
  • Finding new challenges in backpacking
  • https://carrotquinn.com/
  • Thru-Hiking Will Break Your Heart
  • https://www.instagram.com/carrotquinn/

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]]> Carrot Quinn is a long-distance hiker, blogger, and author of the book “Thru-Hiking Will Break Your Heart,” a memoir of her time on the Pacific Crest Trail.

We discuss her journey in long-distance hiking, why she decided to write a book about it, what that was like, and what backpacking means to her after all these years and experiences.  Additionally, Carrot shares with me some things that might be difficult for some to hear and understand, but this is what I love about this podcast and connecting with people who share a similar passion for the outdoors.  Because of backpacking, I had the opportunity to connect with someone about things I wasn’t aware of.  Now it’s on me to investigate these topics further for my knowledge and awareness.


Show Notes and Links

  • Introductions
  • Why Carrot decided to write her book on Thru-Hiking
  • On the process of writing and self-publishing
  • The dynamic of writing a book versus a blog post
  • Who Carrot was writing for
  • Breaking the mold of “what a backpacker is”
  • Exploring the narrative of the outdoors
  • The power of social media in exposing the unheard narrative
  • How we can help marginalized communities
  • Learning to be open to new ideas and concepts
  • The usage of public lands and the effects it can have on certain groups of people
  • How wilderness areas can impact issues on the US/Mexican border
  • The humanitarian crisis on border wilderness areas
  • How Carrot’s research on the border crisis has impacted her awareness of backpacking
  • What backpacking means now after the years
  • Finding new challenges in backpacking
  • https://carrotquinn.com/
  • Thru-Hiking Will Break Your Heart
  • https://www.instagram.com/carrotquinn/

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]]> Emory Wanger 55faf2dde4b0ef3f50c609aa:59bee79cedaed881775f0903:5caa32cf53450a1c3dc22737 Mon, 08 Apr 2019 06:00:00 -0700 4599 72 full false #71 - The Te Araroa Trail and The Hike For Mental Health with Justin Helmkamp #71 - The Te Araroa Trail and The Hike For Mental Health with Justin Helmkamp Justin “2 Taps” Helmkamp is a Thru-Hiker who recently completed the southern section of the Te Araroa Trail in New Zealand.  He’s also an advocate for mental health and, when he’s not hiking a long trail, he spends his time working with teens and young adults in a Wilderness Therapy program.

On this episode, we talk about his time hiking abroad in New Zealand, how to deal with constant wet feet, how to allow an adventure to take place, and how the wilderness can be a valuable tool for mental health.

Justin is a cool cat and someone you’ll want to pay attention to.


Show Notes and Links

  • Introductions
  • Justin’s path to backpacking
  • The inspiration to hike
  • Learning to Thru-Hike from scratch
  • Deciding to hike the Te Araroa in New Zealand
  • Details of the trail
  • The Approach to planning the Te Araroa Trail
  • Learning to let adventure happen and building confidence
  • How hiking  let’s you experience a place
  • Learning to hike New Zealand
  • How to deal with wet feet
  • Being comfortable being uncomfortable
  • A note on backpacking footwear
  • Is hiking becoming more popular?
  • Hike for Mental Health and wilderness therapy
  • Finding another purpose while out on an adventure
  • Why wilderness therapy works
  • Learning to be bored
  • Can video or photography ruin an experience?
  • Details on guided wilderness therapy
  • How the movement of hiking plays a role in therapy
  • What can happen in your head when hiking
  • Allowing yourself to learn from the outdoors
  • How to follow up with Justin and what he’s doing
  • https://www.hikeformentalhealth.org/
  • https://www.instagram.com/justinhelmkamp/
  • https://secure.hikeformentalhealth.org/np/clients/hike/campaign.jsp?campaign=103&fundraiser=9836

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]]> Justin “2 Taps” Helmkamp is a Thru-Hiker who recently completed the southern section of the Te Araroa Trail in New Zealand.  He’s also an advocate for mental health and, when he’s not hiking a long trail, he spends his time working with teens and young adults in a Wilderness Therapy program.

On this episode, we talk about his time hiking abroad in New Zealand, how to deal with constant wet feet, how to allow an adventure to take place, and how the wilderness can be a valuable tool for mental health.

Justin is a cool cat and someone you’ll want to pay attention to.


Show Notes and Links

  • Introductions
  • Justin’s path to backpacking
  • The inspiration to hike
  • Learning to Thru-Hike from scratch
  • Deciding to hike the Te Araroa in New Zealand
  • Details of the trail
  • The Approach to planning the Te Araroa Trail
  • Learning to let adventure happen and building confidence
  • How hiking  let’s you experience a place
  • Learning to hike New Zealand
  • How to deal with wet feet
  • Being comfortable being uncomfortable
  • A note on backpacking footwear
  • Is hiking becoming more popular?
  • Hike for Mental Health and wilderness therapy
  • Finding another purpose while out on an adventure
  • Why wilderness therapy works
  • Learning to be bored
  • Can video or photography ruin an experience?
  • Details on guided wilderness therapy
  • How the movement of hiking plays a role in therapy
  • What can happen in your head when hiking
  • Allowing yourself to learn from the outdoors
  • How to follow up with Justin and what he’s doing
  • https://www.hikeformentalhealth.org/
  • https://www.instagram.com/justinhelmkamp/
  • https://secure.hikeformentalhealth.org/np/clients/hike/campaign.jsp?campaign=103&fundraiser=9836

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]]> Emory Wanger 55faf2dde4b0ef3f50c609aa:59bee79cedaed881775f0903:5ca12d3c71c10b981f08e3c6 Mon, 01 Apr 2019 06:00:00 -0700 4391 71 full false #70 - Pacific Crest Trail Lessons with 2 Foot Adventures #70 - Pacific Crest Trail Lessons with 2 Foot Adventures Mary from 2 Foot Adventures runs a mobile gear shop focused on ultralight gear built for the Pacific Crest Trail and in this episode, we recap the 2018 PCT hiking season and chat about trends in gear, along with common pain points and problems hikers experience.  We even dive into the holistic side of what Thru Hiking means. 


Show Notes and Links

  • Introductions
  • Recap of what 2 Foot Adventures is
  • Why being located at Warner Springs so important
  • Everything you need in 200 square feet
  • Specialty gear you can expect to see in the trailers
  • Trends in backpacking from year to year
  • The issue with “believing” in the gear we’ve purchased
  • What finding the right gear can do for you
  • Why being flexible and open-minded can improve your experiences
  • The PCT as a pilgrimage
  • Common issues in the first 100 miles
  • On finding the right gear that works for YOU
  • How hikers change as they move north along the trail
  • What about quitting the trail?
  • Finding YOUR trail along the trail
  • Life lessons from the trail
  • Learning to enjoy the process
  • On responding to problems
  • Audience Q and A:
  • Most popular water filter
  • Most popular shelters
  • Average amount of time it takes to hike the PCT
  • When is the best time to start the PCT
  • How many miles to start with?
  • Best resupply strategy?
  • Considerations for the PCT this year
  • Closing thoughts
  • How to connect with 2 Foot Adventures
  • https://2footadventures.com/
  • https://instagram.com/2FootAdventures
  • http://facebook.com/2FootAdventures

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]]> Mary from 2 Foot Adventures runs a mobile gear shop focused on ultralight gear built for the Pacific Crest Trail and in this episode, we recap the 2018 PCT hiking season and chat about trends in gear, along with common pain points and problems hikers experience.  We even dive into the holistic side of what Thru Hiking means. 


Show Notes and Links

  • Introductions
  • Recap of what 2 Foot Adventures is
  • Why being located at Warner Springs so important
  • Everything you need in 200 square feet
  • Specialty gear you can expect to see in the trailers
  • Trends in backpacking from year to year
  • The issue with “believing” in the gear we’ve purchased
  • What finding the right gear can do for you
  • Why being flexible and open-minded can improve your experiences
  • The PCT as a pilgrimage
  • Common issues in the first 100 miles
  • On finding the right gear that works for YOU
  • How hikers change as they move north along the trail
  • What about quitting the trail?
  • Finding YOUR trail along the trail
  • Life lessons from the trail
  • Learning to enjoy the process
  • On responding to problems
  • Audience Q and A:
  • Most popular water filter
  • Most popular shelters
  • Average amount of time it takes to hike the PCT
  • When is the best time to start the PCT
  • How many miles to start with?
  • Best resupply strategy?
  • Considerations for the PCT this year
  • Closing thoughts
  • How to connect with 2 Foot Adventures
  • https://2footadventures.com/
  • https://instagram.com/2FootAdventures
  • http://facebook.com/2FootAdventures

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]]> Emory Wanger 55faf2dde4b0ef3f50c609aa:59bee79cedaed881775f0903:5c82c1d0eef1a12cee073d92 Mon, 25 Mar 2019 06:00:00 -0700 5262 70 full false #69 - The Calendar Year Triple Crown with Tyler Lau #69 - The Calendar Year Triple Crown with Tyler Lau Tyler “The Prodigy” Lau completed the Calendar Year Triple Crown in 2018 hiking the PCT, CDT, and AT all in one single year.  On this episode, we discuss why he hiked, how he did it, and what it all means now that it’s over.  


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]]> Tyler “The Prodigy” Lau completed the Calendar Year Triple Crown in 2018 hiking the PCT, CDT, and AT all in one single year.  On this episode, we discuss why he hiked, how he did it, and what it all means now that it’s over.  


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]]> Emory Wanger 55faf2dde4b0ef3f50c609aa:59bee79cedaed881775f0903:5c82c1a2c83025e6348d1038 Mon, 11 Mar 2019 06:00:00 -0700 5595 69 full false #68 - Why Junk Food Works with Kyle Kamp, RDN, LD #68 - Why Junk Food Works with Kyle Kamp, RDN, LD Kyle Kamp is a Registered Dietitian, and in this episode, he helps explain how the body processes food and why a “junk food” diet during extreme athletic events such as backpacking, thru-hiking, and hunting actually works. 


Show Notes and Links

  • Kyle’s personal backstory in the outdoors
  • What a dietitian is and how it differs from being a Nutritionist
  • The backstory of THIS conversation
  • Detailing Emory’s PCT junk food diet
  • Rationalizing and explaining the junk food hiking diet
  • Carbs versus fats and how they impact performance
  • Why we look down on junk food as a super fuel option in the field
  • When carbs are good, bad, or neutral
  • How the body recognizes carbs, proteins, and fats
  • Diet based on activity level and environment
  • Food trends and marketing tools
  • The impacts of junk food on inflammation
  • Where inflammation comes from
  • Detailing food and calorie intake for a backpacking trip
  • Why we feel a delayed hunger in the field
  • How the body uses reserves
  • How to followup with Kyle (info@v2pnutrition.com)
  • https://www.v2pnutrition.com/
  • https://www.instagram.com/v2pnutrition/
  • https://www.facebook.com/v2pnutrition/

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]]> Kyle Kamp is a Registered Dietitian, and in this episode, he helps explain how the body processes food and why a “junk food” diet during extreme athletic events such as backpacking, thru-hiking, and hunting actually works. 


Show Notes and Links

  • Kyle’s personal backstory in the outdoors
  • What a dietitian is and how it differs from being a Nutritionist
  • The backstory of THIS conversation
  • Detailing Emory’s PCT junk food diet
  • Rationalizing and explaining the junk food hiking diet
  • Carbs versus fats and how they impact performance
  • Why we look down on junk food as a super fuel option in the field
  • When carbs are good, bad, or neutral
  • How the body recognizes carbs, proteins, and fats
  • Diet based on activity level and environment
  • Food trends and marketing tools
  • The impacts of junk food on inflammation
  • Where inflammation comes from
  • Detailing food and calorie intake for a backpacking trip
  • Why we feel a delayed hunger in the field
  • How the body uses reserves
  • How to followup with Kyle (info@v2pnutrition.com)
  • https://www.v2pnutrition.com/
  • https://www.instagram.com/v2pnutrition/
  • https://www.facebook.com/v2pnutrition/

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]]> Emory Wanger 55faf2dde4b0ef3f50c609aa:59bee79cedaed881775f0903:5c7d586115fcc0452a9753f3 Mon, 04 Mar 2019 10:53:01 -0800 3608 68 full false #67 - Becoming Adventure Ready with Katie Gerber #67 - Becoming Adventure Ready with Katie Gerber Katie Gerber is a certified nutritionist who focuses on helping people become what she calls “Adventure Ready.” Having experienced many forms of backpacking including Thru-Hiking, Katie knows what you’re either going through or about to go through.  It’s with that knowledge that she can coach you through the process of not only performing once you’re out there doing it but more importantly, getting you ready prior to ever stepping down that trail.


Show Notes and Links

  • Katie’s backstory
  • How Katie helps people with their nutrition
  • How and why Katie got into backpacking
  • Addressing the “hiker diet”
  • Being “Adventure Ready”
  • Katie’s online coursework for outdoor adventurers
  • What’s in the course
  • The impact of stress on health
  • The importance of sleep
  • Which module could stand alone on it’s own
  • Katie’s personal story with finding what foods work best for her
  • FREE GUIDE!
  • How to find and connect with Katie 
  • http://katiegerber.com/
  • https://www.instagram.com/katiegerber/
  • https://www.facebook.com/bykatiegerber/

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]]> Katie Gerber is a certified nutritionist who focuses on helping people become what she calls “Adventure Ready.” Having experienced many forms of backpacking including Thru-Hiking, Katie knows what you’re either going through or about to go through.  It’s with that knowledge that she can coach you through the process of not only performing once you’re out there doing it but more importantly, getting you ready prior to ever stepping down that trail.


Show Notes and Links

  • Katie’s backstory
  • How Katie helps people with their nutrition
  • How and why Katie got into backpacking
  • Addressing the “hiker diet”
  • Being “Adventure Ready”
  • Katie’s online coursework for outdoor adventurers
  • What’s in the course
  • The impact of stress on health
  • The importance of sleep
  • Which module could stand alone on it’s own
  • Katie’s personal story with finding what foods work best for her
  • FREE GUIDE!
  • How to find and connect with Katie 
  • http://katiegerber.com/
  • https://www.instagram.com/katiegerber/
  • https://www.facebook.com/bykatiegerber/

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]]> Emory Wanger 55faf2dde4b0ef3f50c609aa:59bee79cedaed881775f0903:5c73538dfa0d600773c1f5a4 Mon, 25 Feb 2019 06:00:00 -0800 3431 67 full false #66 - Age Doesn't Matter with Mark Lampman #66 - Age Doesn't Matter with Mark Lampman I’ve followed Mark Lampman for a while now because he motivates me.  He’s nearly twice my age, but time and time again, he gets after it in the mountains. 

When I asked Mark to come on the podcast, I told him I wanted to hear his perspective. I wanted to learn what it was like from his point of view and understand why he does what he does. What I got in return were some great stories, a unique look into his journey with backpacking, and even more inspiration than before.


Show Notes and Links

  • Who is Mark Lampman?
  • Why Mark continues to push himself at 60 yrs old
  • Making the switch to backcountry hunting later in life
  • Mule deer and solo hunting
  • Hunting in Grizzly country
  • How to deal with a Grizzly - spray vs. firearms
  • Mark’s Grizzly stories
  • Why Mark continues to return to the backcountry
  • When it all changed for Mark
  • The power of building confidence
  • Seeing things differently with age
  • Younger Mark versus older Mark
  • Gear talk with Mark
  • Mark’s backpacking learning curve
  • On having quality gear
  • How to follow up with and find Mark
  • https://www.instagram.com/marklampmam
  • https://www.facebook.com/mark.lampman.79

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]]> I’ve followed Mark Lampman for a while now because he motivates me.  He’s nearly twice my age, but time and time again, he gets after it in the mountains. 

When I asked Mark to come on the podcast, I told him I wanted to hear his perspective. I wanted to learn what it was like from his point of view and understand why he does what he does. What I got in return were some great stories, a unique look into his journey with backpacking, and even more inspiration than before.


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  • Who is Mark Lampman?
  • Why Mark continues to push himself at 60 yrs old
  • Making the switch to backcountry hunting later in life
  • Mule deer and solo hunting
  • Hunting in Grizzly country
  • How to deal with a Grizzly - spray vs. firearms
  • Mark’s Grizzly stories
  • Why Mark continues to return to the backcountry
  • When it all changed for Mark
  • The power of building confidence
  • Seeing things differently with age
  • Younger Mark versus older Mark
  • Gear talk with Mark
  • Mark’s backpacking learning curve
  • On having quality gear
  • How to follow up with and find Mark
  • https://www.instagram.com/marklampmam
  • https://www.facebook.com/mark.lampman.79

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]]> Emory Wanger 55faf2dde4b0ef3f50c609aa:59bee79cedaed881775f0903:5c6ae422971a187035614920 Mon, 18 Feb 2019 09:00:00 -0800 3948 66 full false #65 - Marie Draws The PCT #65 - Marie Draws The PCT Marie-Pier Tremblay is a graphic artist/illustrator from Montreal, Canada, who began her hike of the PCT in April 2019.  We connected after my wife hired her to illustrate my PCT terminus photo as a birthday present.  After receiving the gift and hearing about how awesome she was to speak with, I got on the ol’ gram, shot her an invitation, and here we are!

P.S.  This interview occurred before Marie's hike.

You'll love this episode if you’re curious about what a hiker goes through leading up to a long trail!


Show Notes and Links

  • Why did Marie decide to hike the PCT?
  • Background on Marie and her early years
  • How the PCT seed got planted
  • The feeling of the PCT choosing you
  • The years between childhood and now
  • Where Marie was when she decided to hike the PCT
  • What it felt like hearing from the thru-hiking community
  • Preparing and training for the PCT
  • Advice from other hikers
  • What Marie hopes to get from the trail
  • Settling into the idea of the PCT
  • Marie draws the PCT
  • Plans to manage drawing the PCT
  • The work behind the artwork
  • Thoughts on Marie’s style
  • How to find, reach, and follow Marie 
  • https://www.instagram.com/mariedraws_thepct
  • https://www.mariepiertremblay.com/thruhikingportraits/

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]]> Marie-Pier Tremblay is a graphic artist/illustrator from Montreal, Canada, who began her hike of the PCT in April 2019.  We connected after my wife hired her to illustrate my PCT terminus photo as a birthday present.  After receiving the gift and hearing about how awesome she was to speak with, I got on the ol’ gram, shot her an invitation, and here we are!

P.S.  This interview occurred before Marie's hike.

You'll love this episode if you’re curious about what a hiker goes through leading up to a long trail!


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  • Why did Marie decide to hike the PCT?
  • Background on Marie and her early years
  • How the PCT seed got planted
  • The feeling of the PCT choosing you
  • The years between childhood and now
  • Where Marie was when she decided to hike the PCT
  • What it felt like hearing from the thru-hiking community
  • Preparing and training for the PCT
  • Advice from other hikers
  • What Marie hopes to get from the trail
  • Settling into the idea of the PCT
  • Marie draws the PCT
  • Plans to manage drawing the PCT
  • The work behind the artwork
  • Thoughts on Marie’s style
  • How to find, reach, and follow Marie 
  • https://www.instagram.com/mariedraws_thepct
  • https://www.mariepiertremblay.com/thruhikingportraits/

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]]> Emory Wanger 55faf2dde4b0ef3f50c609aa:59bee79cedaed881775f0903:5c6176c5eef1a13325dfc82c Mon, 11 Feb 2019 05:57:40 -0800 4213 65 full false #64- 2% for Conservation with Jared Frasier #64- 2% for Conservation with Jared Frasier Jared Frasier is the Executive Director of 2% for Conservation, a Non-Profit Organization certifying that brands and people donate 1% of their time and 1% of their money to conservation efforts.  Jared shares not only what 2% does, but he also covers the history of conservation, where we’re at today with funding and efforts, and where everything is headed in the future.


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  • Why Jared is on the show
  • Intro to 2% for Conservation
  • What 2% is
  • A history lesson on wildlife conservation
  • Assessed taxes that fund conservation
  • Where to start with giving back
  • The predicament of not knowing how and where to give back
  • On the risk of echo chambers
  • How 2% helps others find the right brands doing the right things
  • There are actually bad people and brands out there
  • Building conservation in to the business plan
  • On protecting the landscape
  • How big the impact COULD be if we all gave back
  • The impact of volunteering
  • How dwindling hunting numbers are impacting state/federal conservation efforts and funding
  • The idea of assessing a “backpack” tax
  • Adjusting to the modern culture and buying practices
  • Brands leading the way in giving back
  • What would Teddy do or say?
  • Closing thoughts
  • How to reach 2% for Conservation
  • https://fishandwildlife.org/
  • https://www.instagram.com/2percentforconservation

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]]> Jared Frasier is the Executive Director of 2% for Conservation, a Non-Profit Organization certifying that brands and people donate 1% of their time and 1% of their money to conservation efforts.  Jared shares not only what 2% does, but he also covers the history of conservation, where we’re at today with funding and efforts, and where everything is headed in the future.


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  • Why Jared is on the show
  • Intro to 2% for Conservation
  • What 2% is
  • A history lesson on wildlife conservation
  • Assessed taxes that fund conservation
  • Where to start with giving back
  • The predicament of not knowing how and where to give back
  • On the risk of echo chambers
  • How 2% helps others find the right brands doing the right things
  • There are actually bad people and brands out there
  • Building conservation in to the business plan
  • On protecting the landscape
  • How big the impact COULD be if we all gave back
  • The impact of volunteering
  • How dwindling hunting numbers are impacting state/federal conservation efforts and funding
  • The idea of assessing a “backpack” tax
  • Adjusting to the modern culture and buying practices
  • Brands leading the way in giving back
  • What would Teddy do or say?
  • Closing thoughts
  • How to reach 2% for Conservation
  • https://fishandwildlife.org/
  • https://www.instagram.com/2percentforconservation

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]]> Emory Wanger 55faf2dde4b0ef3f50c609aa:59bee79cedaed881775f0903:5c584880e5e5f07d5d3574d2 Mon, 04 Feb 2019 07:00:49 -0800 6864 64 full false #63 - Backcountry Mentorship with Johnny Mack #63 - Backcountry Mentorship with Johnny Mack Johnny Mack is the creator of Washington Backcountry, where his mission is to mentor those looking to learn the art of hunting.  After going through the struggles of learning to hunt as an adult, Johnny realized his experiences could help others, and thus the website was born.  We discuss Johnny’s background, his personal transition into hunting, and why he built WA Backcountry.


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]]> Johnny Mack is the creator of Washington Backcountry, where his mission is to mentor those looking to learn the art of hunting.  After going through the struggles of learning to hunt as an adult, Johnny realized his experiences could help others, and thus the website was born.  We discuss Johnny’s background, his personal transition into hunting, and why he built WA Backcountry.


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]]> Emory Wanger 55faf2dde4b0ef3f50c609aa:59bee79cedaed881775f0903:5c4f11d51ae6cfaa21fdf804 Mon, 28 Jan 2019 08:01:32 -0800 4370 63 full true #62 - Thru-Riding with Gillian Larson #62 - Thru-Riding with Gillian Larson Gillian Larson is a Thru Rider which means she rides her horse on long trails from start to finish covering thousands of miles in the process.  To date, Gillian has ridden the PCT twice, the CDT, and the Arizona Trail in their entirety, not to mention the numerous trails in between and since this recording.

On this episode of The By Land Podcast, we get to know Gillian and how she is able to manage riding a horse for such long distances, the logistics behind it, and what it’s like to even do such a thing. 


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  • What made Gillian get into Thru Riding
  • How it all began
  • Dealing with trail reports being inaccurate
  • How horses deal with obstacles on the trail
  • Gillian’s experiences prior to Thru Riding
  • Prepping for the PCT
  • PCT kickoff
  • Learning to Thru Ride
  • Supporting a Thru Ride - talking logistics
  • Lessons learned after over 9 thousand miles of riding
  • Why Gillian re-rode the PCT
  • Answering the question of “why not just hike?”
  • Seeing the trail through the eyes of a horse
  • How to learn more about Gillian
  • What’s next?
  • https://www.pacificcrestquest.org/
  • https://www.instagram.com/thru_rider

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]]> Gillian Larson is a Thru Rider which means she rides her horse on long trails from start to finish covering thousands of miles in the process.  To date, Gillian has ridden the PCT twice, the CDT, and the Arizona Trail in their entirety, not to mention the numerous trails in between and since this recording.

On this episode of The By Land Podcast, we get to know Gillian and how she is able to manage riding a horse for such long distances, the logistics behind it, and what it’s like to even do such a thing. 


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  • What made Gillian get into Thru Riding
  • How it all began
  • Dealing with trail reports being inaccurate
  • How horses deal with obstacles on the trail
  • Gillian’s experiences prior to Thru Riding
  • Prepping for the PCT
  • PCT kickoff
  • Learning to Thru Ride
  • Supporting a Thru Ride - talking logistics
  • Lessons learned after over 9 thousand miles of riding
  • Why Gillian re-rode the PCT
  • Answering the question of “why not just hike?”
  • Seeing the trail through the eyes of a horse
  • How to learn more about Gillian
  • What’s next?
  • https://www.pacificcrestquest.org/
  • https://www.instagram.com/thru_rider

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]]> Emory Wanger 55faf2dde4b0ef3f50c609aa:59bee79cedaed881775f0903:5c448a574fa51abcc0a29ba6 Mon, 21 Jan 2019 05:00:00 -0800 4545 62 full false #61 - Saving the Boundary Waters with Dave and Amy Freeman #61 - Saving the Boundary Waters with Dave and Amy Freeman Dave and Amy Freeman spent an entire year living in the Boundary Waters, a vast wilderness in northern Minnesota that many flock to throughout the year for its pristine waters and canoeing adventures.  But that's not all; they’ve made a life out of exploration, and in this episode, we learn all about it.


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]]> Dave and Amy Freeman spent an entire year living in the Boundary Waters, a vast wilderness in northern Minnesota that many flock to throughout the year for its pristine waters and canoeing adventures.  But that's not all; they’ve made a life out of exploration, and in this episode, we learn all about it.


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]]> Emory Wanger 55faf2dde4b0ef3f50c609aa:59bee79cedaed881775f0903:5c2e7bb903ce64c7037d2720 Sun, 06 Jan 2019 22:00:00 -0800 4074 61 full false #60 - Why We Show and Tell Wild Places with Brad Brooks of Argali Outdoors #60 - Why We Show and Tell Wild Places with Brad Brooks of Argali Outdoors Brad Brooks of Argali Outdoors joins me to discuss why we are drawn to filming hunts and backcountry adventures when it's so much trouble.   Brad released a film in October of 2018 detailing a hunt in the Frank Church Wilderness of Idaho however, the intent wasn’t to showcase the hunt itself but rather to the vast and rugged wilderness of the Frank Church.  


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]]> Brad Brooks of Argali Outdoors joins me to discuss why we are drawn to filming hunts and backcountry adventures when it's so much trouble.   Brad released a film in October of 2018 detailing a hunt in the Frank Church Wilderness of Idaho however, the intent wasn’t to showcase the hunt itself but rather to the vast and rugged wilderness of the Frank Church.  


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]]> Emory Wanger 55faf2dde4b0ef3f50c609aa:59bee79cedaed881775f0903:5c2a69a08985832b1982ab5c Tue, 01 Jan 2019 07:18:11 -0800 3960 60 full true #59 - Playing Classical Music in the Mountains with Anastasia Allison #59 - Playing Classical Music in the Mountains with Anastasia Allison Anastasia Allison is the violinist of the Musical Mountaineers and the founder/inventor of Kula Cloth, but living a life of entrepreneurship and adventures wasn’t always the case.  After being involved in a bad car accident, Anastasia realized it was time to stop putting off her dreams and start engaging them.

If you need some inspiration, this episode will motivate you to chase down those dreams you’ve been putting off.


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]]> Anastasia Allison is the violinist of the Musical Mountaineers and the founder/inventor of Kula Cloth, but living a life of entrepreneurship and adventures wasn’t always the case.  After being involved in a bad car accident, Anastasia realized it was time to stop putting off her dreams and start engaging them.

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]]> Emory Wanger 55faf2dde4b0ef3f50c609aa:59bee79cedaed881775f0903:5c23979c4fa51aa79f7f30d6 Wed, 26 Dec 2018 07:51:13 -0800 5250 59 full false #58 - Saved By Mountains with Jeff Oliver #58 - Saved By Mountains with Jeff Oliver Jeff “IBTAT” Oliver has been saved by the mountains.  In 2013, he went cold turkey from alcohol and focused his energy on hiking.  Fast forward to today, and he’s now completed the Appalachian Trail (2018) and will be stepping down the Pacific Crest Trail in 2019, but that’s just the beginning.  On this episode, we talk about Jeff’s 2018 AT Thru Hike, his future goals with the Triple Crown, and why he chose backpacking over drinking.


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  • Jeff’s transition from hunting to thru-hiking
  • Learning to enjoy the trail
  • Craving the trail after the trail
  • Jeff’s gear story
  • The goal of completing the Triple Crown
  • What it means to attain the Triple Crown
  • Sacrificing to reach your dreams
  • Jeff’s mindset towards shorter trips after hiking the AT
  • Jeff’s life before backpacking and his battle with drinking
  • How backpacking changed Jeff’s life
  • Replacing alcohol with hiking
  • How to avoid drinks on trail
  • Applying what was learned on the trail to everyday life
  • Becoming efficient on the trail
  • Food on the trail
  • What Jeff is changing going into the PCT
  • On being alone in the wilderness
  • Addressing mental challenges
  • Advice for future hikers
  • How to find and follow Jeff
  • https://www.ibtat.com/
  • https://www.instagram.com/savedbymtns/
  • https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC3aILHxDPaRH8fHO5JcE6qQ

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]]> Jeff “IBTAT” Oliver has been saved by the mountains.  In 2013, he went cold turkey from alcohol and focused his energy on hiking.  Fast forward to today, and he’s now completed the Appalachian Trail (2018) and will be stepping down the Pacific Crest Trail in 2019, but that’s just the beginning.  On this episode, we talk about Jeff’s 2018 AT Thru Hike, his future goals with the Triple Crown, and why he chose backpacking over drinking.


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  • Jeff’s transition from hunting to thru-hiking
  • Learning to enjoy the trail
  • Craving the trail after the trail
  • Jeff’s gear story
  • The goal of completing the Triple Crown
  • What it means to attain the Triple Crown
  • Sacrificing to reach your dreams
  • Jeff’s mindset towards shorter trips after hiking the AT
  • Jeff’s life before backpacking and his battle with drinking
  • How backpacking changed Jeff’s life
  • Replacing alcohol with hiking
  • How to avoid drinks on trail
  • Applying what was learned on the trail to everyday life
  • Becoming efficient on the trail
  • Food on the trail
  • What Jeff is changing going into the PCT
  • On being alone in the wilderness
  • Addressing mental challenges
  • Advice for future hikers
  • How to find and follow Jeff
  • https://www.ibtat.com/
  • https://www.instagram.com/savedbymtns/
  • https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC3aILHxDPaRH8fHO5JcE6qQ

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]]> Emory Wanger 55faf2dde4b0ef3f50c609aa:59bee79cedaed881775f0903:5c17a8b4c2241bba3e894c3c Mon, 17 Dec 2018 06:25:47 -0800 4315 58 full true #57 - The Hot Springs Trail with Aria Zoner #57 - The Hot Springs Trail with Aria Zoner Aria Zoner is the author of The Hot Springs Trail guidebook and a guy who sincerely wants you to experience the landscape as you wish to experience it.  In this episode, we talk about the Hot Springs Trail, where it’s at, why Aria created it, and its proposed status as a National Scenic Trail.  We also discuss how Aria went from eating junk food on long trails to eating whole foods and how that impacted his overall experiences and performance.


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]]> Aria Zoner is the author of The Hot Springs Trail guidebook and a guy who sincerely wants you to experience the landscape as you wish to experience it.  In this episode, we talk about the Hot Springs Trail, where it’s at, why Aria created it, and its proposed status as a National Scenic Trail.  We also discuss how Aria went from eating junk food on long trails to eating whole foods and how that impacted his overall experiences and performance.


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]]> e 55faf2dde4b0ef3f50c609aa:59bee79cedaed881775f0903:5c0dadaa2b6a28f9e791b723 Mon, 10 Dec 2018 17:35:51 -0800 4777 57 full false #56 - Going Feral with Jimmy Funkhouser #56 - Going Feral with Jimmy Funkhouser Jimmy Funkhouser left the corporate world behind to start Feral.   Fast forward just a few short years, and Feral is growing to the point where they’re opening a second location in Denver.  Jimmy is doing things far differently than your average outdoor store - he meets the customer where they are in their journey and makes them feel at home and accepted no matter what.


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]]> Emory Wanger 55faf2dde4b0ef3f50c609aa:59bee79cedaed881775f0903:5c047bd9aa4a99467dc9efdc Mon, 03 Dec 2018 06:37:48 -0800 3371 56 full true #55 - Hiker Trash Vogue with Twerk #55 - Hiker Trash Vogue with Twerk For over 2000 miles, Twerk photographed hikers along the PCT and did so unlike anything out there.  He was able to take his passion for hiking and photography and mash them together in what is now a coffee table book titled "Hiker Trash Vogue."  


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]]> Emory Wanger 55faf2dde4b0ef3f50c609aa:59bee79cedaed881775f0903:5bfccb6a575d1f7b46f9e5fa Mon, 26 Nov 2018 21:01:08 -0800 4320 55 full true #54 - Pack Out An Entire Moose Alone with Jeff Lusk #54 - Pack Out An Entire Moose Alone with Jeff Lusk In this episode, I talk with Jeff Lusk about a solo moose hunt he went on this past hunting season.  While it’s always fun to recap an interesting hunt, it’s even more fun learning about the struggles involved in any such adventure. 

What Jeff learned on his hunt can directly apply to your adventures, even if you’re not into hunting.  He was alone, battling the cold, having debates in his head about whether he should be there, and left to deal with the physical toll that packing out a moose by himself.

Please enjoy this episode with Jeff Lusk. I have no doubt you’ll get some good nuggets of wisdom from it!


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  • Managing expectations on a solo moose hunt
  • How Jeff got to the point where he went solo moose hunting
  • Dealing with the mental struggles solo hunting
  • Why we find excuses to go home early
  • Staying curious
  • Tips to staying in the field longer when you’re alone
  • Working up to a solo trip
  • Self-talk when you’re solo
  • The rewards of pushing yourself
  • The bonds built with others in the backcountry
  • Backcountry lessons applied to daily life
  • The story of the solo moose hunt
  • Battling the mental side of being solo
  • Choosing to push yourself
  • How we get past mental barriers
  • Falling in love with the process of what you’re doing
  • Learning to battle excuses
  • Project Waypoint
  • How to reach Jeff
  • Project Waypoint IG https://www.instagram.com/projectwaypoint

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]]> In this episode, I talk with Jeff Lusk about a solo moose hunt he went on this past hunting season.  While it’s always fun to recap an interesting hunt, it’s even more fun learning about the struggles involved in any such adventure. 

What Jeff learned on his hunt can directly apply to your adventures, even if you’re not into hunting.  He was alone, battling the cold, having debates in his head about whether he should be there, and left to deal with the physical toll that packing out a moose by himself.

Please enjoy this episode with Jeff Lusk. I have no doubt you’ll get some good nuggets of wisdom from it!


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  • Managing expectations on a solo moose hunt
  • How Jeff got to the point where he went solo moose hunting
  • Dealing with the mental struggles solo hunting
  • Why we find excuses to go home early
  • Staying curious
  • Tips to staying in the field longer when you’re alone
  • Working up to a solo trip
  • Self-talk when you’re solo
  • The rewards of pushing yourself
  • The bonds built with others in the backcountry
  • Backcountry lessons applied to daily life
  • The story of the solo moose hunt
  • Battling the mental side of being solo
  • Choosing to push yourself
  • How we get past mental barriers
  • Falling in love with the process of what you’re doing
  • Learning to battle excuses
  • Project Waypoint
  • How to reach Jeff
  • Project Waypoint IG https://www.instagram.com/projectwaypoint

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]]> Emory Wanger 55faf2dde4b0ef3f50c609aa:59bee79cedaed881775f0903:5bf2f3994d7a9c24424ef234 Mon, 19 Nov 2018 10:34:00 -0800 3823 54 full true #53 - The Adventure Photographers Backpack with Allan Henry from Atlas Packs #53 - The Adventure Photographers Backpack with Allan Henry from Atlas Packs In this episode, I chat with Co-founder Allan Henry of Atlas Packs to find out more about his company, his vision, and his designs.  Camera carry in the backcountry is a struggle, but he's found a way to make it enjoyable while pairing both a camera bag and an adventure bag together into one solution.

For camera nerds out there, this one is a must!


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  • Allan’s background
  • Intro to Atlas Packs
  • How and why Allan built and created these packs
  • Identifying pain points
  • Developing the design
  • Camera carry before Atlas designs
  • Initial reviews of the packs
  • Learning to work within the limitations of your gear
  • Launching the product and garnering input
  • Why understanding the limitations of gear is important to the experience
  • What you get when you purchase an Atlas Pack
  • How to reach Atlas Packs for more information
  • https://atlaspacks.com/
  • https://www.instagram.com/atlaspacks/
  • https://www.youtube.com/atlaspacks

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]]> In this episode, I chat with Co-founder Allan Henry of Atlas Packs to find out more about his company, his vision, and his designs.  Camera carry in the backcountry is a struggle, but he's found a way to make it enjoyable while pairing both a camera bag and an adventure bag together into one solution.

For camera nerds out there, this one is a must!


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  • Allan’s background
  • Intro to Atlas Packs
  • How and why Allan built and created these packs
  • Identifying pain points
  • Developing the design
  • Camera carry before Atlas designs
  • Initial reviews of the packs
  • Learning to work within the limitations of your gear
  • Launching the product and garnering input
  • Why understanding the limitations of gear is important to the experience
  • What you get when you purchase an Atlas Pack
  • How to reach Atlas Packs for more information
  • https://atlaspacks.com/
  • https://www.instagram.com/atlaspacks/
  • https://www.youtube.com/atlaspacks

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]]> Emory Wanger 55faf2dde4b0ef3f50c609aa:59bee79cedaed881775f0903:5beadfe2cd8366439d574355 Tue, 13 Nov 2018 07:04:15 -0800 3728 53 full false #52 - Learn To Thru Hike with Liz Thomas #52 - Learn To Thru Hike with Liz Thomas If you want to learn about backpacking from someone who knows a thing or two, you’ll want to open your ears to Liz Thomas. She’s hiked over 17,000 miles of trail along the Triple Crown of Thru Hikes, captured the Fastest Known Time on the AT, and spent countless miles along many other trails in the US over the years. The good news for you is that she’s decided to open up her experiences so that others may learn from her successes and trials in the form of not only an incredible book but also an online course.

This episode is loaded with great advice and information on backpacking, so sit back, relax, and enjoy this chat with Liz Thomas.


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]]> If you want to learn about backpacking from someone who knows a thing or two, you’ll want to open your ears to Liz Thomas. She’s hiked over 17,000 miles of trail along the Triple Crown of Thru Hikes, captured the Fastest Known Time on the AT, and spent countless miles along many other trails in the US over the years. The good news for you is that she’s decided to open up her experiences so that others may learn from her successes and trials in the form of not only an incredible book but also an online course.

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]]> Emory Wanger 55faf2dde4b0ef3f50c609aa:59bee79cedaed881775f0903:5be066d18985834c93306630 Mon, 05 Nov 2018 08:31:25 -0800 3354 52 full false #51- Born In The Boundary Waters with Granite Gear #51- Born In The Boundary Waters with Granite Gear Rob Coughlin joins me for this episode to discuss all things Granite Gear. Rob is a great guy to spend time chatting with and shares a number of history lessons about the company, some background on himself and how he came to work with Granite Gear, as well as a couple of programs the company is working with to help make lives and wild place better.


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]]> Rob Coughlin joins me for this episode to discuss all things Granite Gear. Rob is a great guy to spend time chatting with and shares a number of history lessons about the company, some background on himself and how he came to work with Granite Gear, as well as a couple of programs the company is working with to help make lives and wild place better.


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]]> Emory Wanger 55faf2dde4b0ef3f50c609aa:59bee79cedaed881775f0903:5ba3fc494192028eb60074c7 Mon, 29 Oct 2018 20:00:33 -0700 3785 51 full false #50 - One Family, 6 Kids, and 2000 Miles with Ben Crawford #50 - One Family, 6 Kids, and 2000 Miles with Ben Crawford In 2018, the Crawfords hiked the  Appalachian Trail with 6 kids ranging from 2 to 17 years old.  While they might agree it sounds crazy, when you get to know them a little, you’ll find that this is nothing unusual for them. 

Ben Crawford joins me for Episode 50 to talk about how those of us with kids can redefine what it means to build a family unit.  We discuss how he and his Wife began breaking the mold of what a family can and can’t do and how those of us with families can begin taking steps to get outside more and more often with our little ones, regardless of age.


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]]> In 2018, the Crawfords hiked the  Appalachian Trail with 6 kids ranging from 2 to 17 years old.  While they might agree it sounds crazy, when you get to know them a little, you’ll find that this is nothing unusual for them. 

Ben Crawford joins me for Episode 50 to talk about how those of us with kids can redefine what it means to build a family unit.  We discuss how he and his Wife began breaking the mold of what a family can and can’t do and how those of us with families can begin taking steps to get outside more and more often with our little ones, regardless of age.


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]]> Emory Wanger 55faf2dde4b0ef3f50c609aa:59bee79cedaed881775f0903:5ba3fc3af4e1fcaeb4a20dc5 Tue, 09 Oct 2018 13:28:52 -0700 3756 50 full true #49 - Good Eats with Backpackers Bistro #49 - Good Eats with Backpackers Bistro In this episode, we tackle the story behind Backpackers Bistro, what they offer, why, and several other topics related to backpacking.  These meals are made by a professional chef who is also a backpacker, so you can rest assured we all speak the same language!


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]]> Emory Wanger 55faf2dde4b0ef3f50c609aa:59bee79cedaed881775f0903:5ba3fc294785d385ed49b2a7 Sun, 30 Sep 2018 19:42:41 -0700 2691 49 full false #48 - Make It Rain with Luxe Hiking Gear #48 - Make It Rain with Luxe Hiking Gear Luxe Hiking Gear makes quality shelters at a great price point.  Jake Morrison walks me through how he manages life in the Olympic Peninsula,  how to manage condensation, and a run-through of the products Luxe offers.  


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]]> Luxe Hiking Gear makes quality shelters at a great price point.  Jake Morrison walks me through how he manages life in the Olympic Peninsula,  how to manage condensation, and a run-through of the products Luxe offers.  


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]]> Emory Wanger 55faf2dde4b0ef3f50c609aa:59bee79cedaed881775f0903:5ba3fc14104c7b85c264847d Mon, 24 Sep 2018 12:05:38 -0700 3507 48 full false #47 - Making It Better with Outdoor Vitals #47 - Making It Better with Outdoor Vitals In this episode, I talk with Tayson Whitaker about why he started an outdoor gear company and what makes his product offerings unique.  We also dive into the world of hammock camping and root out all the misconceptions that might be out there about how valid choosing a hammock over a tent might be.


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]]> Emory Wanger 55faf2dde4b0ef3f50c609aa:59bee79cedaed881775f0903:5b9c25770e2e722214621bb1 Tue, 18 Sep 2018 11:20:08 -0700 3609 47 full false #46 - Running 500 Miles in 10 Days with Christof Teuscher #46 - Running 500 Miles in 10 Days with Christof Teuscher Christof Teuscher joins me to talk about his recent FKT (fastest known time) record of the Washington section of the PCT.  We chat about his experience, how he came to run such crazy distances, what motivates him, how an FKT works, and his experiences on the trail both mentally and physically. 


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  • Fastest Known Time (FKT)
  • The FKT aftermath of the Washington section of the PCT
  • Preparing and planning to run 500 miles in 10 days
  • Managing resupply
  • The first few days
  • How to manage and feed the body
  • What it’s like to see your body perform over so many miles
  • How to entertain yourself during all those miles
  • Heavy and dark moments during the run
  • How these long runs have impacted daily life
  • Life before running long distances
  • Learning to have mental strength and learning from failure
  • Coaching someone through failures 
  • Doing by doing
  • Benefits behind pushing personal limits  
  • How running long distances has affected Chrisof’s work
  • Being comfortable with uncertainty
  • Healing up
  • What next?
  • Christof’s advice to those wanting to run long distances
  • Daily routine and timelines during the Washington FKT
  • http://www.christofteuscher.com
  • https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC9Eq4WTtQB8c--Lyaz89BZg
  • https://www.instagram.com/christof.teuscher/

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]]> Christof Teuscher joins me to talk about his recent FKT (fastest known time) record of the Washington section of the PCT.  We chat about his experience, how he came to run such crazy distances, what motivates him, how an FKT works, and his experiences on the trail both mentally and physically. 


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  • Fastest Known Time (FKT)
  • The FKT aftermath of the Washington section of the PCT
  • Preparing and planning to run 500 miles in 10 days
  • Managing resupply
  • The first few days
  • How to manage and feed the body
  • What it’s like to see your body perform over so many miles
  • How to entertain yourself during all those miles
  • Heavy and dark moments during the run
  • How these long runs have impacted daily life
  • Life before running long distances
  • Learning to have mental strength and learning from failure
  • Coaching someone through failures 
  • Doing by doing
  • Benefits behind pushing personal limits  
  • How running long distances has affected Chrisof’s work
  • Being comfortable with uncertainty
  • Healing up
  • What next?
  • Christof’s advice to those wanting to run long distances
  • Daily routine and timelines during the Washington FKT
  • http://www.christofteuscher.com
  • https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC9Eq4WTtQB8c--Lyaz89BZg
  • https://www.instagram.com/christof.teuscher/

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]]> Emory Wanger 55faf2dde4b0ef3f50c609aa:59bee79cedaed881775f0903:5b8987cc562fa7403618dfce Sun, 02 Sep 2018 20:22:42 -0700 3373 46 full false #45 - Comparing Sleep Systems with Josh Kirchner #45 - Comparing Sleep Systems with Josh Kirchner I'm joined by Josh Kirchner to talk sleep systems.  This episode is different in that it's not actually an interview, but rather a conversation between the two of us where we talk about what we're currently using, where we came from, and what we look for in gear.


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]]> Emory Wanger 55faf2dde4b0ef3f50c609aa:59bee79cedaed881775f0903:5b82eab088251bb51ff5fc84 Sun, 26 Aug 2018 18:14:35 -0700 6216 45 full false #44 - The Wilderness Athlete #44 - The Wilderness Athlete Wilderness Athlete is a performance supplement company that serves those venturing into the outdoors.  Kevin Guillen joins me to discuss what Wilderness Athlete is, why it was created, and how supplements can play a role in your outdoor adventures. 

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]]> Wilderness Athlete is a performance supplement company that serves those venturing into the outdoors.  Kevin Guillen joins me to discuss what Wilderness Athlete is, why it was created, and how supplements can play a role in your outdoor adventures. 

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]]> Emory Wanger 55faf2dde4b0ef3f50c609aa:59bee79cedaed881775f0903:5b779d20c2241b4f57a9b669 Sun, 19 Aug 2018 20:26:57 -0700 4905 44 full false #43 - Finding Your Limits With Dan Solsman #43 - Finding Your Limits With Dan Solsman Dan Solsman joins the podcast to talk about pushing personal limits and why it's important to do so.  Dan is a hell of a guy and has a straightforward way about him.  He's direct about why he does what he does and has a great personal story about how he came to enjoy finding his personal limits.

This episode is dedicated to those of you who know what it's like to find your limits, and hopefully, it's an inspiration to those who are sitting back waiting for something to happen.


Show Notes

  • Introductions
  • Dan’s background and upbringing in the outdoors
  • Dan’s transition from hunting the Midwest to the mountains of Idaho
  • Learning to hunt the mountains via backpacking
  • Pushing the limits and diving into solo backcountry hunting
  • What keeps Dan going back for more in the mountains
  • Intro to the Exo Mountain Gear Death Hike
  • Dan’s detailed mental and physical experience on the hike on days 1-3
  • Reflections of the Death Hike
  •  What it means to push yourself so hard that you’re reaching a mental and physical line you’ve never been at before
  • How it feels to reach that “line” and how to deal with the desire to quit
  • How to push through dark mental and physical moments
  • The will to endure
  • Intentionally pushing your limits and finding that line
  • How Dan learned about NOT quitting in his childhood
  • How to encourage people to reach that “line”
  • Setting limitations on quitting
  • Thoughts on teaching children about quitting and pushing themselves

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]]> Dan Solsman joins the podcast to talk about pushing personal limits and why it's important to do so.  Dan is a hell of a guy and has a straightforward way about him.  He's direct about why he does what he does and has a great personal story about how he came to enjoy finding his personal limits.

This episode is dedicated to those of you who know what it's like to find your limits, and hopefully, it's an inspiration to those who are sitting back waiting for something to happen.


Show Notes

  • Introductions
  • Dan’s background and upbringing in the outdoors
  • Dan’s transition from hunting the Midwest to the mountains of Idaho
  • Learning to hunt the mountains via backpacking
  • Pushing the limits and diving into solo backcountry hunting
  • What keeps Dan going back for more in the mountains
  • Intro to the Exo Mountain Gear Death Hike
  • Dan’s detailed mental and physical experience on the hike on days 1-3
  • Reflections of the Death Hike
  •  What it means to push yourself so hard that you’re reaching a mental and physical line you’ve never been at before
  • How it feels to reach that “line” and how to deal with the desire to quit
  • How to push through dark mental and physical moments
  • The will to endure
  • Intentionally pushing your limits and finding that line
  • How Dan learned about NOT quitting in his childhood
  • How to encourage people to reach that “line”
  • Setting limitations on quitting
  • Thoughts on teaching children about quitting and pushing themselves

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]]> Emory Wanger 55faf2dde4b0ef3f50c609aa:59bee79cedaed881775f0903:5b70c85403ce64d11b8246bb Mon, 13 Aug 2018 13:27:38 -0700 4715 43 full true #42 - Documenting The Hunt With Steven Drake #42 - Documenting The Hunt With Steven Drake Steven Drake is a photographer and videographer who works with brands and personalities in the hunting world.  His career has brought him all over the world and through pretty much every situation you can imagine.  Steven is no stranger to pushing himself to that next level and somehow finding a way to document it while doing so.


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  • Introductions
  • The background on Steven Drake and how he came to do what he now does
  • Steve’s intro into backpacking while working with Mystery Ranch
  • Steve’s experience with a smattering of backpacking cultures - mountaineers to hunters
  • The transition into professional   photography
  • What it’s like being responsible for portraying the culture of hunting 
  • Steve’s advice for us amateur photographers/videographers traveling the backcountry expecting to get incredible images.
  • Steve’s learning curve to capturing images as a professional
  • Tempering photography and  video expectations
  • Planning imagery themes before you head out
  • Documenting the BC Goat hunt
  • Calorie management in harsh winter conditions
  • What happens to your body when you’re calorie-deficient
  • Steve’s advice to new backpackers
  • Bucket list dreams 
  • How to reach Steven Drake
  • Bonus round - Steve’s moving to IG TV!
  • https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCz0emU2npX8aVB_sNkvdKEQ
  • Instagram https://www.instagram.com/stevendrakephoto/
  • https://www.annulicollective.com/

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]]> Steven Drake is a photographer and videographer who works with brands and personalities in the hunting world.  His career has brought him all over the world and through pretty much every situation you can imagine.  Steven is no stranger to pushing himself to that next level and somehow finding a way to document it while doing so.


Show Notes and Links

  • Introductions
  • The background on Steven Drake and how he came to do what he now does
  • Steve’s intro into backpacking while working with Mystery Ranch
  • Steve’s experience with a smattering of backpacking cultures - mountaineers to hunters
  • The transition into professional   photography
  • What it’s like being responsible for portraying the culture of hunting 
  • Steve’s advice for us amateur photographers/videographers traveling the backcountry expecting to get incredible images.
  • Steve’s learning curve to capturing images as a professional
  • Tempering photography and  video expectations
  • Planning imagery themes before you head out
  • Documenting the BC Goat hunt
  • Calorie management in harsh winter conditions
  • What happens to your body when you’re calorie-deficient
  • Steve’s advice to new backpackers
  • Bucket list dreams 
  • How to reach Steven Drake
  • Bonus round - Steve’s moving to IG TV!
  • https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCz0emU2npX8aVB_sNkvdKEQ
  • Instagram https://www.instagram.com/stevendrakephoto/
  • https://www.annulicollective.com/

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]]> Emory Wanger 55faf2dde4b0ef3f50c609aa:59bee79cedaed881775f0903:5b6634491ae6cf34100084a8 Sun, 05 Aug 2018 20:43:48 -0700 3507 42 full false #41 - The Lady Alliance with Kieren Britton #41 - The Lady Alliance with Kieren Britton Kieren Britton is the founder of The Lady Alliance, an organization dedicated to connecting women together, building community, and encouraging those women to be the best possible version of themselves.

On this episode, we talk about who the organization is for, what they do, and how it came to be.  We also discuss why the outdoors is such a great place to build confidence and character.  If you are someone who is looking for a caring and understanding community that will work with you through your personal challenges, you're going to want to look into what The Lady Alliance offers.


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  • Introductions
  • The Lady Alliance explained
  • Kieren and her background
  • How the Lady Alliance came to be
  • Kieren’s path to the outdoors
  • How Kieren’s parents influenced and instilled confidence in her
  • How the Lady Alliance creates environments for women to be successful in the outdoors
  • How and when the Lady Alliance went from an online community to an in-person community
  • Common barriers to going on an adventure
  • Creating a support system of likeminded women
  • Kieren’s thoughts on why the outdoors has such an impact on personal confidence
  • Self Love - a focal point of The Lady Alliance
  • The future of The Lady Alliance
  • Women only?  What happens to the dynamic of a group of women when men are introduced into an event
  • How to reach The Lady Alliance 
  • https://www.theladyalliance.com/
  • https://www.instagram.com/theladyalliance/

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]]> Kieren Britton is the founder of The Lady Alliance, an organization dedicated to connecting women together, building community, and encouraging those women to be the best possible version of themselves.

On this episode, we talk about who the organization is for, what they do, and how it came to be.  We also discuss why the outdoors is such a great place to build confidence and character.  If you are someone who is looking for a caring and understanding community that will work with you through your personal challenges, you're going to want to look into what The Lady Alliance offers.


Show Notes and Links

  • Introductions
  • The Lady Alliance explained
  • Kieren and her background
  • How the Lady Alliance came to be
  • Kieren’s path to the outdoors
  • How Kieren’s parents influenced and instilled confidence in her
  • How the Lady Alliance creates environments for women to be successful in the outdoors
  • How and when the Lady Alliance went from an online community to an in-person community
  • Common barriers to going on an adventure
  • Creating a support system of likeminded women
  • Kieren’s thoughts on why the outdoors has such an impact on personal confidence
  • Self Love - a focal point of The Lady Alliance
  • The future of The Lady Alliance
  • Women only?  What happens to the dynamic of a group of women when men are introduced into an event
  • How to reach The Lady Alliance 
  • https://www.theladyalliance.com/
  • https://www.instagram.com/theladyalliance/

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]]> Emory Wanger 55faf2dde4b0ef3f50c609aa:59bee79cedaed881775f0903:5b5b81532b6a28c0820c4636 Sun, 29 Jul 2018 20:58:57 -0700 3169 41 full false #40 - The Off Grid Food Company #40 - The Off Grid Food Company In this episode, Spencer from Off Grid Food Company and I discuss his company, how it started, why it started, and what it offers consumers.  It's a great conversation with a great guy and I was honored to have him on the podcast.

*Update 2023: Off Grid appears to be closed, but this conversation is still great!

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  • Introductions
  • Spencer’s background
  • Intro to Off Grid Food Company
  • Origin story of Off Grid
  • Spencer’s life in the outdoors
  • What it’s like starting new career, project, and business
  • Where Off Grid started and where they’re going
  • Sourcing quality food and ingredients
  • Freeze drying versus dehydrating
  • Basics of freeze-drying
  • Choosing the right recipe
  • Product offerings, both present and future
  • Hurdles to opening a freeze-dried food company
  • Spencer's backcountry food choices
  • Advice to new backpackers/hunters
  • How to reach Off Grid Food Company
  • Website https://offgridfood.co/
  • Instagram https://www.instagram.com/offgridfoodco/

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]]> In this episode, Spencer from Off Grid Food Company and I discuss his company, how it started, why it started, and what it offers consumers.  It's a great conversation with a great guy and I was honored to have him on the podcast.

*Update 2023: Off Grid appears to be closed, but this conversation is still great!

Show Notes and Links

  • Introductions
  • Spencer’s background
  • Intro to Off Grid Food Company
  • Origin story of Off Grid
  • Spencer’s life in the outdoors
  • What it’s like starting new career, project, and business
  • Where Off Grid started and where they’re going
  • Sourcing quality food and ingredients
  • Freeze drying versus dehydrating
  • Basics of freeze-drying
  • Choosing the right recipe
  • Product offerings, both present and future
  • Hurdles to opening a freeze-dried food company
  • Spencer's backcountry food choices
  • Advice to new backpackers/hunters
  • How to reach Off Grid Food Company
  • Website https://offgridfood.co/
  • Instagram https://www.instagram.com/offgridfoodco/

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]]> Emory Wanger 55faf2dde4b0ef3f50c609aa:59bee79cedaed881775f0903:5b54d3c51ae6cf630b92f7b8 Sun, 22 Jul 2018 21:05:31 -0700 3890 40 full false #39 - Leave No Trace #39 - Leave No Trace In this episode, I have the pleasure of talking to Aaron and Doniell from Leave No Trace about how to interact with the wild places we visit.  They blew my mind with the amount of science-based advice they provided.  I really had no idea how much information I was missing and I'm sure you'll feel the same way after this episode.


Show Notes and Links

  • Introductions
  • Background on Donielle and Aaron
  • Why continue to teach Leave No Trace principles
  • What is Leave No Trace?
  • How Leave No Trace reaches outdoor users
  • “Why” Leave No Trace?
  • Leave No Trace is based on real science
  • What’s at risk if we fail to take care of the backcountry
  • Impacts of campsites on the environment
  • Varying regional practices
  • An overview of the “7 Principles of Leave No Trace”
  • How dog waste plays into Leave No Trace
  • Recap of the idea of Leave No Trace
  • How to learn more and what training is available
  • How Subaru supports waste reduction and the organization
  • Advice to new backpackers
  • Leave No Trace website https://lnt.org/
  • Leave No Trace IG https://www.instagram.com/leavenotracecenter/
  • Aaron and Donielle IG https://www.instagram.com/dirtbagvictorylap/

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]]> In this episode, I have the pleasure of talking to Aaron and Doniell from Leave No Trace about how to interact with the wild places we visit.  They blew my mind with the amount of science-based advice they provided.  I really had no idea how much information I was missing and I'm sure you'll feel the same way after this episode.


Show Notes and Links

  • Introductions
  • Background on Donielle and Aaron
  • Why continue to teach Leave No Trace principles
  • What is Leave No Trace?
  • How Leave No Trace reaches outdoor users
  • “Why” Leave No Trace?
  • Leave No Trace is based on real science
  • What’s at risk if we fail to take care of the backcountry
  • Impacts of campsites on the environment
  • Varying regional practices
  • An overview of the “7 Principles of Leave No Trace”
  • How dog waste plays into Leave No Trace
  • Recap of the idea of Leave No Trace
  • How to learn more and what training is available
  • How Subaru supports waste reduction and the organization
  • Advice to new backpackers
  • Leave No Trace website https://lnt.org/
  • Leave No Trace IG https://www.instagram.com/leavenotracecenter/
  • Aaron and Donielle IG https://www.instagram.com/dirtbagvictorylap/

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]]> Emory Wanger 55faf2dde4b0ef3f50c609aa:59bee79cedaed881775f0903:5b4cb35488251be60ff7ac3c Mon, 16 Jul 2018 09:56:23 -0700 4715 39 full false #38 - Film What Makes You Feel with Aaron Hitchins of Rockhouse Motion #38 - Film What Makes You Feel with Aaron Hitchins of Rockhouse Motion Aaron Hitchins is part of the talented team at Rockhouse Motion and joins the show to walk me through his creative process with video and how wild places can impact people across all ages and cultures.


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  • The path to Rockhouse
  • Background on Rockhouse
  • How Aaron’s background in the outdoors influences his work with customers
  • How Aaron manages his profession that lives inside this passions (dealing with a pile of care)
  • Aaron’s passion projects
  • Student of the Wild Essay
  • Where would Aaron be if he wasn’t doing what he’s doing 
  • “Beyond the Roar” Film
  • Understanding videography and storytelling with video
  • “Filming the things that make you feel”
  • Videography versus Photography
  • How to approach videography
  • Becoming efficient at storytelling
  • Setting expectations for a project
  • Aaron’s advice to newbs
  • www.rockhousemotion.com
  • Aaron's Instagram https://www.instagram.com/aaronhitchins/
  • Rockhouse IG https://www.instagram.com/rockhousemotion/
  • Footsteps Film 
  • Beyond the Roar Film 

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Show Notes and Links

  • The path to Rockhouse
  • Background on Rockhouse
  • How Aaron’s background in the outdoors influences his work with customers
  • How Aaron manages his profession that lives inside this passions (dealing with a pile of care)
  • Aaron’s passion projects
  • Student of the Wild Essay
  • Where would Aaron be if he wasn’t doing what he’s doing 
  • “Beyond the Roar” Film
  • Understanding videography and storytelling with video
  • “Filming the things that make you feel”
  • Videography versus Photography
  • How to approach videography
  • Becoming efficient at storytelling
  • Setting expectations for a project
  • Aaron’s advice to newbs
  • www.rockhousemotion.com
  • Aaron's Instagram https://www.instagram.com/aaronhitchins/
  • Rockhouse IG https://www.instagram.com/rockhousemotion/
  • Footsteps Film 
  • Beyond the Roar Film 

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]]> Emory Wanger 55faf2dde4b0ef3f50c609aa:59bee79cedaed881775f0903:5b4161500e2e72bb8049b40b Sun, 08 Jul 2018 21:33:53 -0700 4513 38 full true #37 - Canoeing Across America with Jillian Brown #37 - Canoeing Across America with Jillian Brown Jillian Brown and her adventure partner Martin Trahan are currently (as of July 2018) canoeing their way from the Pacific Ocean to the Atlantic via riverways across the United States.  She joins me to talk about the expedition, her experiences, and the spiritual side of such an effort.

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  • What Jillian and her paddling partner are in the middle of doing right now!
  • How does someone paddle from the Pacific to Miami via waterway?
  • Background on the expedition.
  • Jillian’s background and how she ended up on this expedition.
  • A note on partnerships in an expedition like this.
  • Where did Jillian's willingness to try things for the first time come from?
  • How has the river helped focus thoughts while on such a long journey
  • The Squirrel Story
  • How to process the low moments of a journey and learning to push through
  • Long-distance paddling - what’s the game plan?
  • What it’s like paddling upriver
  • Paddling a big river
  • A day in the life of a long Long-distance Paddle
  • Why choose a canoe over a kayak?
  • Why is Jillian and her partner paddling this expedition
  • Experiencing the kindness of strangers
  • How to find and follow the journey
  • www.coursingthroughamerica.com
  • https://www.instagram.com/jillianabrownphotography/
  • https://www.instagram.com/martin_trahan_canoeist/

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]]> Jillian Brown and her adventure partner Martin Trahan are currently (as of July 2018) canoeing their way from the Pacific Ocean to the Atlantic via riverways across the United States.  She joins me to talk about the expedition, her experiences, and the spiritual side of such an effort.

Show Notes and Links

  • What Jillian and her paddling partner are in the middle of doing right now!
  • How does someone paddle from the Pacific to Miami via waterway?
  • Background on the expedition.
  • Jillian’s background and how she ended up on this expedition.
  • A note on partnerships in an expedition like this.
  • Where did Jillian's willingness to try things for the first time come from?
  • How has the river helped focus thoughts while on such a long journey
  • The Squirrel Story
  • How to process the low moments of a journey and learning to push through
  • Long-distance paddling - what’s the game plan?
  • What it’s like paddling upriver
  • Paddling a big river
  • A day in the life of a long Long-distance Paddle
  • Why choose a canoe over a kayak?
  • Why is Jillian and her partner paddling this expedition
  • Experiencing the kindness of strangers
  • How to find and follow the journey
  • www.coursingthroughamerica.com
  • https://www.instagram.com/jillianabrownphotography/
  • https://www.instagram.com/martin_trahan_canoeist/

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]]> Emory Wanger 55faf2dde4b0ef3f50c609aa:59bee79cedaed881775f0903:5b397d151ae6cf7909ad8524 Sun, 01 Jul 2018 20:54:14 -0700 3673 37 full false #36 - Passion is Everything with Shane Vander Giessen #36 - Passion is Everything with Shane Vander Giessen Shane Vander Giessen is someone who exemplifies having a passion for wild places and joins the podcast for a deep dive into that passion.  If you enjoy hearing people talk about their journey into the outdoors, their love of the backcountry, and some great hunting stories, you'll want to give this episode a listen.


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  • Shane’s background in hunting and backpacking
  • What hunting means to Shane, why he does it, and why he shares his adventures
  • Where did Shane’s passion for hunting and the outdoors stem from?
  • Early childhood memories
  • Shane’s passion for bear hunting explained
  • Why Shane now hunts Blacktail in the high alpine environments
  • How Shane learned to hunt Blacktailed Deer
  • Shane's love for Mountain Goats explained
  • Shane’s thoughts on hunting and how he can hunt an animal he cares about
  • How Shane approaches backpacking
  • Capturing stories with video and stills while hunting/backpacking
  • What keeps Shane going back for more in the mountains?
  • Shanes's advice to newcomers to hunting
  • www.lonegoatmedia.com
  • Instagram https://www.instagram.com/lonegoatmedia/
  • Shane's Blacktail hunt he referenced and his YouTube channel - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5o9bpSxS4N4

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]]> Shane Vander Giessen is someone who exemplifies having a passion for wild places and joins the podcast for a deep dive into that passion.  If you enjoy hearing people talk about their journey into the outdoors, their love of the backcountry, and some great hunting stories, you'll want to give this episode a listen.


Show Notes and Links

  • Shane’s background in hunting and backpacking
  • What hunting means to Shane, why he does it, and why he shares his adventures
  • Where did Shane’s passion for hunting and the outdoors stem from?
  • Early childhood memories
  • Shane’s passion for bear hunting explained
  • Why Shane now hunts Blacktail in the high alpine environments
  • How Shane learned to hunt Blacktailed Deer
  • Shane's love for Mountain Goats explained
  • Shane’s thoughts on hunting and how he can hunt an animal he cares about
  • How Shane approaches backpacking
  • Capturing stories with video and stills while hunting/backpacking
  • What keeps Shane going back for more in the mountains?
  • Shanes's advice to newcomers to hunting
  • www.lonegoatmedia.com
  • Instagram https://www.instagram.com/lonegoatmedia/
  • Shane's Blacktail hunt he referenced and his YouTube channel - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5o9bpSxS4N4

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]]> Emory Wanger 55faf2dde4b0ef3f50c609aa:59bee79cedaed881775f0903:5b26ca1b352f53967a692b3a Sun, 24 Jun 2018 20:45:26 -0700 4015 36 full false #35 - Learning to Backpack Hunt with Josh Kirchner #35 - Learning to Backpack Hunt with Josh Kirchner Josh Kirchner joins the show to talk about what it was like learning to backpack hunt.  We share our individual stories of where we came from and how it's going.


Show Notes and Links

  • How and why Josh decided to get into backpack hunting
  • Josh’s first backpacking experiences and how he got started
  • Starting small and working up to bigger trips
  • Common hurdles to backpack hunting and how to overcome them
  • Sorting through all the possible gear solutions and how to uncomplicate them
  • Josh brings a friend backpack hunting for the first time…
  • Misconceptions of what backpack hunting is and isn’t
  • Emory’s first backpack hunting experience
  • Learning to backpack hunt and build up to longer trips
  • Understanding why you are out there in the first place
  • How to successfully combine backpacking and hunting
  • Planning out your backpack hunt and what to take into account (ie game evacuation)
  • Benefits of backpack hunting - a tactical advantage
  • Considerations for backpack hunting - things to keep in mind
  • Choosing the right shelter for your style of backpack hunting
  • A recap of the episode highlights
  • Josh’s closing thoughts and final bits of advice on being alone in the wilderness
  • How to reach Josh
  • www.dialedinhunter.com
  • Instagram https://www.instagram.com/dialedinhunter/
  • Twitter https://twitter.com/DialedInHunter
  • Facebook https://www.facebook.com/dialedinhunter
  • YouTube https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC6ItIjVnltPYvPWohOPk0dQ

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]]> Josh Kirchner joins the show to talk about what it was like learning to backpack hunt.  We share our individual stories of where we came from and how it's going.


Show Notes and Links

  • How and why Josh decided to get into backpack hunting
  • Josh’s first backpacking experiences and how he got started
  • Starting small and working up to bigger trips
  • Common hurdles to backpack hunting and how to overcome them
  • Sorting through all the possible gear solutions and how to uncomplicate them
  • Josh brings a friend backpack hunting for the first time…
  • Misconceptions of what backpack hunting is and isn’t
  • Emory’s first backpack hunting experience
  • Learning to backpack hunt and build up to longer trips
  • Understanding why you are out there in the first place
  • How to successfully combine backpacking and hunting
  • Planning out your backpack hunt and what to take into account (ie game evacuation)
  • Benefits of backpack hunting - a tactical advantage
  • Considerations for backpack hunting - things to keep in mind
  • Choosing the right shelter for your style of backpack hunting
  • A recap of the episode highlights
  • Josh’s closing thoughts and final bits of advice on being alone in the wilderness
  • How to reach Josh
  • www.dialedinhunter.com
  • Instagram https://www.instagram.com/dialedinhunter/
  • Twitter https://twitter.com/DialedInHunter
  • Facebook https://www.facebook.com/dialedinhunter
  • YouTube https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC6ItIjVnltPYvPWohOPk0dQ

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]]> Emory Wanger 55faf2dde4b0ef3f50c609aa:59bee79cedaed881775f0903:5b26a236562fa7107cabcc38 Sun, 17 Jun 2018 19:27:35 -0700 4896 35 full false #34 - Hiking Free with Dirty Avocado #34 - Hiking Free with Dirty Avocado In this episode, long-distance hiker "Dirty Avacado" joins me to talk about how she got into long-distance backpacking, the feeling of freely hiking a trail, the importance of listening to your body, and what happens after the trail.


Show Notes and Links

  • How DA got into long-distance backpacking
  • How DA decided to hiking the PCT in 2017
  • DA’s background in backpacking and where she came from
  • Why hike thousands of miles?
  • Long trail mindsets
  • The ups and downs of the trail and how DA dealt with these worked through them.
  • Learning to reduce pack weight and what the impact is both physically and mentally
  • Repercussions of not listening to your body
  • Seeing the monument and what happens after mentally
  • Life after the trail what comes next
  • Rationalizing the damage a long trail does to the body
  • Reaching people through social media and YouTube
  • Benefits of long-distance backpacking
  • Advice to aspiring Thru-Hikers
  • How to find Dirty Avacado online
  • Bonus Round
  • What’s with the name Dirty Avacado?
  • How to eat Vegan on the trail
  • Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/cotezi/
  • YouTube - http://www.youtube.com/c/CoteziHikes

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]]> In this episode, long-distance hiker "Dirty Avacado" joins me to talk about how she got into long-distance backpacking, the feeling of freely hiking a trail, the importance of listening to your body, and what happens after the trail.


Show Notes and Links

  • How DA got into long-distance backpacking
  • How DA decided to hiking the PCT in 2017
  • DA’s background in backpacking and where she came from
  • Why hike thousands of miles?
  • Long trail mindsets
  • The ups and downs of the trail and how DA dealt with these worked through them.
  • Learning to reduce pack weight and what the impact is both physically and mentally
  • Repercussions of not listening to your body
  • Seeing the monument and what happens after mentally
  • Life after the trail what comes next
  • Rationalizing the damage a long trail does to the body
  • Reaching people through social media and YouTube
  • Benefits of long-distance backpacking
  • Advice to aspiring Thru-Hikers
  • How to find Dirty Avacado online
  • Bonus Round
  • What’s with the name Dirty Avacado?
  • How to eat Vegan on the trail
  • Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/cotezi/
  • YouTube - http://www.youtube.com/c/CoteziHikes

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]]> Emory Wanger 55faf2dde4b0ef3f50c609aa:59bee79cedaed881775f0903:5b1c21fef950b7c363a4c416 Sun, 10 Jun 2018 18:55:19 -0700 3314 34 full false #33 - Designing with Sierra Designs #33 - Designing with Sierra Designs In this episode, George Bryant, VP and GM of Sierra Designs, joins me for a discussion about his journey into the outdoors, moving from Wisconsin to Colorado, and cultivating a culture of progressive designs at Sierra Designs.


Show Notes and Links

  • The background on George Bryant and how he came to work with SD
  • Where did the passion for the outdoors come from?
  • How living in Colorado compares to how it was growing up in Wisconsin
  • The draw of Colorado
  • Putting the passion of the outdoors into the work at Sierra Designs
  • Genesis story of Sierra Designs
  • Curation of  progressive designs at SD and where it begins
  • How does SD reach experienced hikers and the weekend warrior in one single line?
  • Sierra Designs and hunting?!
  • Setting the bar and forecasting needs
  • Evolution of design
  • Shelter designs for 2018
  • What the future holds for SD
  • What it’s like seeing the lifecycle of a successful design
  • The team behind Sierra Designs
  • What George would want people to know and understand about SD
  • Advice to new backpackers
  • www.sierradesigns.com
  • https://www.youtube.com/user/SierraDesignsGear
  • https://www.instagram.com/sierradesigns/
  • https://www.facebook.com/SierraDesignsGear

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]]> In this episode, George Bryant, VP and GM of Sierra Designs, joins me for a discussion about his journey into the outdoors, moving from Wisconsin to Colorado, and cultivating a culture of progressive designs at Sierra Designs.


Show Notes and Links

  • The background on George Bryant and how he came to work with SD
  • Where did the passion for the outdoors come from?
  • How living in Colorado compares to how it was growing up in Wisconsin
  • The draw of Colorado
  • Putting the passion of the outdoors into the work at Sierra Designs
  • Genesis story of Sierra Designs
  • Curation of  progressive designs at SD and where it begins
  • How does SD reach experienced hikers and the weekend warrior in one single line?
  • Sierra Designs and hunting?!
  • Setting the bar and forecasting needs
  • Evolution of design
  • Shelter designs for 2018
  • What the future holds for SD
  • What it’s like seeing the lifecycle of a successful design
  • The team behind Sierra Designs
  • What George would want people to know and understand about SD
  • Advice to new backpackers
  • www.sierradesigns.com
  • https://www.youtube.com/user/SierraDesignsGear
  • https://www.instagram.com/sierradesigns/
  • https://www.facebook.com/SierraDesignsGear

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]]> Emory Wanger 55faf2dde4b0ef3f50c609aa:59bee79cedaed881775f0903:5b14a91baa4a992f188994e5 Sun, 03 Jun 2018 21:07:02 -0700 3614 33 full false #32 - Saving Our Trail Systems with Clay Jacobson #32 - Saving Our Trail Systems with Clay Jacobson Clay Jacobson is a thru-hiker who works with the Idaho Trails Association and helps manage the coordination of the Idaho Centennial Trail (which he hiked not too long ago).  In this episode, you'll hear about Clay's personal story of how he got into long-distance backpacking and why he's now focused on saving as many miles of trail as possible.   We cover the current state of trails in the US, how they're funded and maintained, and why there are sometimes thousands of miles of trails disappearing each year.


Show Notes and Links

  • Who is Clay Jacobson?
  • How Clay got into Thru Hiking and his background with backpacking (this is a good one)
  • Training for a Thru-Hike
  • How Clay’s education in literature impacted his desire to adventure 
  • How each trail Clay has done has prepared him for the next one
  • Clay’s experience on the Idaho Centennial Trail
  • The state of trails in the US: how they’re maintained, funded, and cared for.
  • What happened between the time trails were established and where we are today?
  • Trail organization
  • How are other outdoor organizations communicating their “value” to receive funding for trail maintenance
  • What it means when trails disappear; is it always a bad thing?
  • National Trails Day - how to get involved in keeping trails open and clear
  • How a trail crew works!
  • How to reach the Idaho Trails Association or other trail organizations
  •   (bonus info on the Idaho Centennial Trail)  
  • Idaho Trails Association - http://www.idahotrailsassociation.org/
  • Washington Trails Association - https://www.wta.org/
  • National Trails Day - https://americanhiking.org/national-trails-day/


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]]> Clay Jacobson is a thru-hiker who works with the Idaho Trails Association and helps manage the coordination of the Idaho Centennial Trail (which he hiked not too long ago).  In this episode, you'll hear about Clay's personal story of how he got into long-distance backpacking and why he's now focused on saving as many miles of trail as possible.   We cover the current state of trails in the US, how they're funded and maintained, and why there are sometimes thousands of miles of trails disappearing each year.


Show Notes and Links

  • Who is Clay Jacobson?
  • How Clay got into Thru Hiking and his background with backpacking (this is a good one)
  • Training for a Thru-Hike
  • How Clay’s education in literature impacted his desire to adventure 
  • How each trail Clay has done has prepared him for the next one
  • Clay’s experience on the Idaho Centennial Trail
  • The state of trails in the US: how they’re maintained, funded, and cared for.
  • What happened between the time trails were established and where we are today?
  • Trail organization
  • How are other outdoor organizations communicating their “value” to receive funding for trail maintenance
  • What it means when trails disappear; is it always a bad thing?
  • National Trails Day - how to get involved in keeping trails open and clear
  • How a trail crew works!
  • How to reach the Idaho Trails Association or other trail organizations
  •   (bonus info on the Idaho Centennial Trail)  
  • Idaho Trails Association - http://www.idahotrailsassociation.org/
  • Washington Trails Association - https://www.wta.org/
  • National Trails Day - https://americanhiking.org/national-trails-day/


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]]> Emory Wanger 55faf2dde4b0ef3f50c609aa:59bee79cedaed881775f0903:5b0c7fc9575d1fdde9b2f452 Mon, 28 May 2018 21:17:44 -0700 4080 32 full false #31 - The Pull of Mountain Hunting with Adam Janke #31 - The Pull of Mountain Hunting with Adam Janke Adam Janke is the editor-in-chief of the Journal of Mountain Hunting and hosts The Beyond the Kill Podcast.  Adam joins the show to talk about why he feels such a passion for hunting, what he feels is needed in the hunting community, and to discuss his soon-to-be-release film about a late-season Mountain Goat Hunt on the winter slopes of B.C..


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]]> Adam Janke is the editor-in-chief of the Journal of Mountain Hunting and hosts The Beyond the Kill Podcast.  Adam joins the show to talk about why he feels such a passion for hunting, what he feels is needed in the hunting community, and to discuss his soon-to-be-release film about a late-season Mountain Goat Hunt on the winter slopes of B.C..


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]]> Emory Wanger 55faf2dde4b0ef3f50c609aa:59bee79cedaed881775f0903:5b01f01a70a6ada6e246b4bb Sun, 20 May 2018 20:38:31 -0700 5037 31 full true #30 - Hill People Gear with Evan Hill #30 - Hill People Gear with Evan Hill Hill People Gear founder Evan Hill joins the show to talk about the origin of the company, design principles, and his background in backcountry travel.  He also gives a number of solid bits of advice to backpackers.


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]]> Hill People Gear founder Evan Hill joins the show to talk about the origin of the company, design principles, and his background in backcountry travel.  He also gives a number of solid bits of advice to backpackers.


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]]> Emory Wanger 55faf2dde4b0ef3f50c609aa:59bee79cedaed881775f0903:5af8a83daa4a992144fdb9bf Sun, 13 May 2018 20:41:26 -0700 3664 30 full false #29 - Packrafting with Alpacka Raft #29 - Packrafting with Alpacka Raft Thor and Sarah Tingey of Alpacka Raft join the podcast to dive into what pack rafting is, the history of the sport, and how the brand supports ongoing conservation efforts.


Show Notes and Links

  • Thor’s background with the founding of Alpacka Rafts
  • Thors intro into what pack rafting is
  • Sarah’s background
  • Thor’s eye-opening realization about what is possible in the backcountry
  • Thoughts on and benefits of long-duration backcountry trips
  • What keeps Thor and Sarah returning to wild places
  • How Thor and Sarah make each of their trips unique
  • How comparing your trip to the trips of others can sour the experience
  • How to make your trip your own
  • Using topographical maps to build basic skills and to understand your area of interest
  • How to learn and build on basic skills
  • The history of pack rafting as told by Thor - also lots of great stories!
  • How Alpacka Rafts was created
  • How pack rafting can open up opportunities in the backcountry
  • How to choose an Alpacka Packraft
  • Packrafts compared to regular kayaks
  • Things to know before you get into packrafting
  • The growing popularity of pack rafting
  • The growth and maturity of Alpacka Rafts
  • How to buy an Alpacka Raft
  • What it’s like to see the growth and use of Alpacka products around the world from the perspective of the founders
  • Thor’s favorite inspirational story from a customer
  • Sarah’s reason behind why she loves what Alpacka Rafts offers customers and her love for customer service
  • Where Thor and Sarah get their most satisfaction and inspiration
  • Trends and the future of Alpacka Rafts - What’s next?
  • How Alpacka Rafts supports the conservation effort - access to public water
  • https://www.alpackaraft.com/rafting/
  • Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/alpacka_raft/
  • Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/alpackaraftllc/

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]]> Thor and Sarah Tingey of Alpacka Raft join the podcast to dive into what pack rafting is, the history of the sport, and how the brand supports ongoing conservation efforts.


Show Notes and Links

  • Thor’s background with the founding of Alpacka Rafts
  • Thors intro into what pack rafting is
  • Sarah’s background
  • Thor’s eye-opening realization about what is possible in the backcountry
  • Thoughts on and benefits of long-duration backcountry trips
  • What keeps Thor and Sarah returning to wild places
  • How Thor and Sarah make each of their trips unique
  • How comparing your trip to the trips of others can sour the experience
  • How to make your trip your own
  • Using topographical maps to build basic skills and to understand your area of interest
  • How to learn and build on basic skills
  • The history of pack rafting as told by Thor - also lots of great stories!
  • How Alpacka Rafts was created
  • How pack rafting can open up opportunities in the backcountry
  • How to choose an Alpacka Packraft
  • Packrafts compared to regular kayaks
  • Things to know before you get into packrafting
  • The growing popularity of pack rafting
  • The growth and maturity of Alpacka Rafts
  • How to buy an Alpacka Raft
  • What it’s like to see the growth and use of Alpacka products around the world from the perspective of the founders
  • Thor’s favorite inspirational story from a customer
  • Sarah’s reason behind why she loves what Alpacka Rafts offers customers and her love for customer service
  • Where Thor and Sarah get their most satisfaction and inspiration
  • Trends and the future of Alpacka Rafts - What’s next?
  • How Alpacka Rafts supports the conservation effort - access to public water
  • https://www.alpackaraft.com/rafting/
  • Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/alpacka_raft/
  • Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/alpackaraftllc/

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]]> Emory Wanger 55faf2dde4b0ef3f50c609aa:59bee79cedaed881775f0903:5aecf1ec562fa7607ffad667 Sun, 06 May 2018 19:23:19 -0700 5730 29 full false #28 - The Oregon Desert Trail with Renee Patrick #28 - The Oregon Desert Trail with Renee Patrick Oregon Desert Trail Coordinator, Renee Patrick, joins the show to talk about what this 700-mile route through the Oregon desert offers, how it began, and what adventurers can expect to see in this incredible high desert landscape.  Renee is a highly accomplished long-distance hiker whose resume includes the Triple Crown and many others.  You'll learn how she approaches backpacking and what it means to her.  

This episode really embodies what this podcast is about.  We cover so many great topics that I think there's something in this one for everyone out there.


Show Notes and Links

  • Introduction to Renee and the Oregon Desert Trail
  • Renee’s background before being the Trail Coordinator for the ODT
  • What the Oregon Desert Trail offers and its history
  • How the ODT compares to other trails in the US
  • How Renee began backpacking and what made her start long-distance backpacking
  • How Thru Hiking has impacted Renee’s backcountry trips
  • What Long Distance backpacking means to Renee
  • How the ODT manages relationships with landowners to retain access to the trail
  • Where and how to begin planning a hike of the ODT
  • Renee’s thoughts on the future of hiking
  • What Renee has learned about backpacking after all these years
  • How Renee has changed since her first long-distance trail
  • The future of the Oregon Desert Trail
  • How to find and support the ODT
  • www.ONDA.org
  • https://onda.org/regions/oregon-desert-trail/
  • https://www.instagram.com/theoregondesert/
  • https://www.youtube.com/user/OregonDeserts

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]]> Oregon Desert Trail Coordinator, Renee Patrick, joins the show to talk about what this 700-mile route through the Oregon desert offers, how it began, and what adventurers can expect to see in this incredible high desert landscape.  Renee is a highly accomplished long-distance hiker whose resume includes the Triple Crown and many others.  You'll learn how she approaches backpacking and what it means to her.  

This episode really embodies what this podcast is about.  We cover so many great topics that I think there's something in this one for everyone out there.


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  • Introduction to Renee and the Oregon Desert Trail
  • Renee’s background before being the Trail Coordinator for the ODT
  • What the Oregon Desert Trail offers and its history
  • How the ODT compares to other trails in the US
  • How Renee began backpacking and what made her start long-distance backpacking
  • How Thru Hiking has impacted Renee’s backcountry trips
  • What Long Distance backpacking means to Renee
  • How the ODT manages relationships with landowners to retain access to the trail
  • Where and how to begin planning a hike of the ODT
  • Renee’s thoughts on the future of hiking
  • What Renee has learned about backpacking after all these years
  • How Renee has changed since her first long-distance trail
  • The future of the Oregon Desert Trail
  • How to find and support the ODT
  • www.ONDA.org
  • https://onda.org/regions/oregon-desert-trail/
  • https://www.instagram.com/theoregondesert/
  • https://www.youtube.com/user/OregonDeserts

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]]> Emory Wanger 55faf2dde4b0ef3f50c609aa:59bee79cedaed881775f0903:5ada6e76758d46d656e62c27 Sun, 29 Apr 2018 20:19:58 -0700 4101 28 full false #27 - Hunting with onX Maps #27 - Hunting with onX Maps In this episode, you'll learn about onX Maps, a mobile mapping application for you phone.  From top to bottom, you'll come away from this chat with Dylan knowing what the company believes in and how their platform benefits the backcountry hunter.  Loaded with features and a well-designed interface, onX Maps delivers time and again.


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]]> In this episode, you'll learn about onX Maps, a mobile mapping application for you phone.  From top to bottom, you'll come away from this chat with Dylan knowing what the company believes in and how their platform benefits the backcountry hunter.  Loaded with features and a well-designed interface, onX Maps delivers time and again.


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]]> Emory Wanger 55faf2dde4b0ef3f50c609aa:59bee79cedaed881775f0903:5ada6e67575d1f20d22f2b0d Sun, 22 Apr 2018 16:50:18 -0700 3465 27 full false #26 - Ultralight Backpacking with Z Packs #26 - Ultralight Backpacking with Z Packs Will and Matt from Z Packs join me for this episode of The By Land Podcast to talk about Z Packs; what they offer, how they go about designing gear, and what is important to them as people making gear for other backpackers.  These two guys have been around the company for a lot of years and have a ton of great stuff to share.

It was a pleasure to have the opportunity to spend an hour talking with a couple of great guys who just want to do good things for people headed out on adventures.


 

Show Notes and Links

  • Introductions to Matt and Will from Z Packs
  • Origin story of Z Packs
  • Why Z Packs was founded 
  • A history lesson in ultralight backpacking gear
  • What has made ultralight backpacking so popular
  • Earning the trust of consumers
  • The durability factor of chosen fabrics
  • How long-distance backpacking has influenced general backpacking
  • What Z Packs is doing to improve the user's backpacking experience
  • Z Packs design principles
  • What it means to design gear to be a part of someone’s adventure
  • Popular Z Packs gear choices 
  • New Z Packs rainwear
  • How to reduce overall pack weight
  • How to deal with rain
  • Matt and Will’s advice to new backpackers
  • The future of Z Packs!  What’s coming!
  • How to find and contact Z Packs
  • www.zpacks.com
  • https://www.instagram.com/zpacks/

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]]> Will and Matt from Z Packs join me for this episode of The By Land Podcast to talk about Z Packs; what they offer, how they go about designing gear, and what is important to them as people making gear for other backpackers.  These two guys have been around the company for a lot of years and have a ton of great stuff to share.

It was a pleasure to have the opportunity to spend an hour talking with a couple of great guys who just want to do good things for people headed out on adventures.


 

Show Notes and Links

  • Introductions to Matt and Will from Z Packs
  • Origin story of Z Packs
  • Why Z Packs was founded 
  • A history lesson in ultralight backpacking gear
  • What has made ultralight backpacking so popular
  • Earning the trust of consumers
  • The durability factor of chosen fabrics
  • How long-distance backpacking has influenced general backpacking
  • What Z Packs is doing to improve the user's backpacking experience
  • Z Packs design principles
  • What it means to design gear to be a part of someone’s adventure
  • Popular Z Packs gear choices 
  • New Z Packs rainwear
  • How to reduce overall pack weight
  • How to deal with rain
  • Matt and Will’s advice to new backpackers
  • The future of Z Packs!  What’s coming!
  • How to find and contact Z Packs
  • www.zpacks.com
  • https://www.instagram.com/zpacks/

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]]> Emory Wanger 55faf2dde4b0ef3f50c609aa:59bee79cedaed881775f0903:5ad4067b2b6a28134fd10917 Sun, 15 Apr 2018 19:54:38 -0700 4022 26 full false #25 - How to Hike 50 Miles in a Day with John Z #25 - How to Hike 50 Miles in a Day with John Z John Zahorian joins me to talk about how he manages to hike 50 miles per day and how he's come to live a minimalist life.  John is also one of the creators of Pa'lente Packs, a pack company that is intentional about being minimal and functional. 


Show Notes and Links

  • Introductions
  • John’s background and how he built up to hiking 50 miles in a single day
  • Proper hiking technique for reducing impact on the body
  • The impact of pack weight on the body
  • The choices of gear - bringing what you need depending on the trip
  • Adapting to trail conditions and scenarios
  • John’s food plan and being aware of your body
  • How to be minimal - making do with what you have
  • Why John continues to hike and explore the backcountry
  • John's new pack company - behind the design
  • Who’s John’s pack is designed for
  • How John decided not to use a waist belt for a pack
  • “Packing your fears”
  • John’s advice to new backpackers
  • Finding John online
  • What’s next for John and the pack company
  • John’s camera choice
  • John and Emory BS session…
  • Pa'lente Packs - https://palantepacks.com/
  • Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/jawnzee/
  • YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/johnzahorian


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]]> John Zahorian joins me to talk about how he manages to hike 50 miles per day and how he's come to live a minimalist life.  John is also one of the creators of Pa'lente Packs, a pack company that is intentional about being minimal and functional. 


Show Notes and Links

  • Introductions
  • John’s background and how he built up to hiking 50 miles in a single day
  • Proper hiking technique for reducing impact on the body
  • The impact of pack weight on the body
  • The choices of gear - bringing what you need depending on the trip
  • Adapting to trail conditions and scenarios
  • John’s food plan and being aware of your body
  • How to be minimal - making do with what you have
  • Why John continues to hike and explore the backcountry
  • John's new pack company - behind the design
  • Who’s John’s pack is designed for
  • How John decided not to use a waist belt for a pack
  • “Packing your fears”
  • John’s advice to new backpackers
  • Finding John online
  • What’s next for John and the pack company
  • John’s camera choice
  • John and Emory BS session…
  • Pa'lente Packs - https://palantepacks.com/
  • Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/jawnzee/
  • YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/johnzahorian


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]]> Emory Wanger 55faf2dde4b0ef3f50c609aa:59bee79cedaed881775f0903:5ac7bcb903ce640d0ba6d503 Sun, 08 Apr 2018 20:49:18 -0700 3730 25 full false #24 - Intentional Photography with Guillaume from Photoxplorer.com #24 - Intentional Photography with Guillaume from Photoxplorer.com After meeting and buying a tripod from Guillaume on Craigslist, I asked if he would be willing to join me for an episode to give some straight talk about photography. 
My intent was to have a deep-dive tech talk, but he made me realize that before getting into the weeds, we needed to talk about photography from a holistic standpoint.  What followed during our conversation was nothing short of incredible.


Show Notes and Links

  • Introductions
  • How Guillaume went from being an engineer to being a travel journalist
  • Gear - The initial struggle with photography
  • Understanding what makes a good photograph and reading the environment
  • Example of reading the environment to capture an image
  • Decision-making in photography
  • Simplifying the photography process
  • How to properly employ an entire photography kit
  • Matching the photography gear to the adventure
  • Guillaume’s backpacking kit for an average trip 
  • How reducing gear can increase the amount of keepers  
  • The struggle of tripods for photography 
  • Purpose-driven trips for photography - being intentional
  • Understanding the subject you’re shooting
  • Applying Guillaume’s advice
  • The importance of weather sealing for a camera
  • Carrying a camera when backpacking
  • How to find Guillaume
  • https://www.photoxplorer.com/

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]]> After meeting and buying a tripod from Guillaume on Craigslist, I asked if he would be willing to join me for an episode to give some straight talk about photography. 
My intent was to have a deep-dive tech talk, but he made me realize that before getting into the weeds, we needed to talk about photography from a holistic standpoint.  What followed during our conversation was nothing short of incredible.


Show Notes and Links

  • Introductions
  • How Guillaume went from being an engineer to being a travel journalist
  • Gear - The initial struggle with photography
  • Understanding what makes a good photograph and reading the environment
  • Example of reading the environment to capture an image
  • Decision-making in photography
  • Simplifying the photography process
  • How to properly employ an entire photography kit
  • Matching the photography gear to the adventure
  • Guillaume’s backpacking kit for an average trip 
  • How reducing gear can increase the amount of keepers  
  • The struggle of tripods for photography 
  • Purpose-driven trips for photography - being intentional
  • Understanding the subject you’re shooting
  • Applying Guillaume’s advice
  • The importance of weather sealing for a camera
  • Carrying a camera when backpacking
  • How to find Guillaume
  • https://www.photoxplorer.com/

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]]> Emory Wanger 55faf2dde4b0ef3f50c609aa:59bee79cedaed881775f0903:5abd94d52b6a284e1a13aead Mon, 02 Apr 2018 07:38:54 -0700 4149 24 full false #23 - Superior Wilderness Designs with Brandon MacIntyre and Ashely Thick #23 - Superior Wilderness Designs with Brandon MacIntyre and Ashely Thick Brandon McIntyre and Ashley Thick started Superior Wilderness Designs in early 2016 and promptly left to hike the Pacific Crest Trails with their handmade packs.   We touch on pack designs, how he got Brandon started, why, and what backpacking means to him. 

If you're looking to get into the world of light to ultralight packs, you'll want to look into SWD.

Show Notes and Links

  • Introduction to Brandon and SWD
  • Superior Wilderness Designs - customized packs!
  • How Brandon got into backpacking
  • Brandon’s first backpacking trip
  • How and why Brandon started SWD
  • Brandon’s DIY gear creations and background in sewing
  • Lessons learned in pack design
  • Durability in a pack - what is needed and what is not 
  • The Thru Hiking pack design - where did this stem from?
  • How Brandon feels about being a part of someone’s backpacking story
  • SWD pack designs
  • Materials - Cuben versus X-Pac
  • When Cuben fiber makes sense and when it doesn’t 
  • X-Pac fabric explained
  • Weatherproofing a pack
  • Pack liners versus pack covers
  • Stretch fabric versus netting for an outside pack pocket
  • What customers can expect from contacting SWD
  • The culture around Thru Hiking and how SWD is carrying on that culture
  • The future offerings from SWD
  • How to find SWD
  • Brandon’s advice to backpackers
  • Saved rounds:  The emotional connection to Thru-Hiking and how the trail can change your life
  • www.swdbackpacks.co 

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]]> Brandon McIntyre and Ashley Thick started Superior Wilderness Designs in early 2016 and promptly left to hike the Pacific Crest Trails with their handmade packs.   We touch on pack designs, how he got Brandon started, why, and what backpacking means to him. 

If you're looking to get into the world of light to ultralight packs, you'll want to look into SWD.

Show Notes and Links

  • Introduction to Brandon and SWD
  • Superior Wilderness Designs - customized packs!
  • How Brandon got into backpacking
  • Brandon’s first backpacking trip
  • How and why Brandon started SWD
  • Brandon’s DIY gear creations and background in sewing
  • Lessons learned in pack design
  • Durability in a pack - what is needed and what is not 
  • The Thru Hiking pack design - where did this stem from?
  • How Brandon feels about being a part of someone’s backpacking story
  • SWD pack designs
  • Materials - Cuben versus X-Pac
  • When Cuben fiber makes sense and when it doesn’t 
  • X-Pac fabric explained
  • Weatherproofing a pack
  • Pack liners versus pack covers
  • Stretch fabric versus netting for an outside pack pocket
  • What customers can expect from contacting SWD
  • The culture around Thru Hiking and how SWD is carrying on that culture
  • The future offerings from SWD
  • How to find SWD
  • Brandon’s advice to backpackers
  • Saved rounds:  The emotional connection to Thru-Hiking and how the trail can change your life
  • www.swdbackpacks.co 

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]]> Emory Wanger 55faf2dde4b0ef3f50c609aa:59bee79cedaed881775f0903:5ab29ea7352f53048d886e78 Mon, 26 Mar 2018 08:48:09 -0700 4770 23 full false #22 - Gates of the Arctic National Park with Expert Guide Joe Wilkins #22 - Gates of the Arctic National Park with Expert Guide Joe Wilkins Joe Wilkins is the author of a recently published book called "Gates of the Arctic National Park: Twelve Years of Wilderness Exploration."  For more years than you and I can imagine, Joe Wilkins has explored, guided, trained Park Rangers, and helped educate as many people as possible about the riches of his beloved National Park.  You'll love hearing Joe talk about his book, his experiences in the backcountry, and what he's learned over the many decades he's spent in the wilds of Alaska. 


Show Notes and Links

  • Introductions
  • The backstory
  • How Joe became interested in Alaska
  • Joe’s experience in Gates of the Arctic National Park
  • Fun facts about AlaskaIntro to Gates of the Arctic National Park
  • Features of the park Adventures in the park
  • Animals located in the park and Jim’s interactions with them
  • How Joe learned to be comfortable around wild predators
  • Joe experience working with and training new Park Rangers
  • Learning to live in the Arctic Wilderness
  • The importance of Joe's book
  • How to find Joe's book
  • Joe's cause helping Veterans with the proceeds of the book
  • Joe’s advice to new backpackers and adventurers    www.joesalaskabook.comhttps://www.amazon.com/Gates-Arctic-National-Park-Exploration/dp/161254973X

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]]> Joe Wilkins is the author of a recently published book called "Gates of the Arctic National Park: Twelve Years of Wilderness Exploration."  For more years than you and I can imagine, Joe Wilkins has explored, guided, trained Park Rangers, and helped educate as many people as possible about the riches of his beloved National Park.  You'll love hearing Joe talk about his book, his experiences in the backcountry, and what he's learned over the many decades he's spent in the wilds of Alaska. 


Show Notes and Links

  • Introductions
  • The backstory
  • How Joe became interested in Alaska
  • Joe’s experience in Gates of the Arctic National Park
  • Fun facts about AlaskaIntro to Gates of the Arctic National Park
  • Features of the park Adventures in the park
  • Animals located in the park and Jim’s interactions with them
  • How Joe learned to be comfortable around wild predators
  • Joe experience working with and training new Park Rangers
  • Learning to live in the Arctic Wilderness
  • The importance of Joe's book
  • How to find Joe's book
  • Joe's cause helping Veterans with the proceeds of the book
  • Joe’s advice to new backpackers and adventurers    www.joesalaskabook.comhttps://www.amazon.com/Gates-Arctic-National-Park-Exploration/dp/161254973X

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]]> Emory Wanger 55faf2dde4b0ef3f50c609aa:59bee79cedaed881775f0903:5aaf1521575d1f89f2f39dc5 Sun, 18 Mar 2018 19:41:46 -0700 3574 22 full false #21- Pacific Crest Trail Advice with 2 Foot Adventures #21- Pacific Crest Trail Advice with 2 Foot Adventures Pillsbury (real name Mary) is a former PCT hiker and one of the founders of "2 Foot Adventures," a high-end pop-up gear shop located along the Pacific Crest Trail.  Each year, Mary helps dozens, if not hundreds, of weary Thru Hikers struggling with injury, gear troubles, and mental fatigue.   For some, 2-foot Adventures is a source of rejuvenation and encouragement, while for others, it's a place to drop some serious pack weight.  We spoke about common injuries on the PCT, how to get past the first 100 miles, what gear is proven to work, the benefits of Thru Hiking, and her advice to Thru Hikers on the PCT. 

Show Notes and Links

  • Introduction to 2 Food Adventures
  • Common issues after 100 miles on the PCT
  • Common Footwear issues and remedies
  • Overuse injuries, causes, and remedies
  • Long-distance hiking routines and techniques
  • Ego on the trail - miles, pace, distance
  • The PCT as a mental game
  • Post trail feelings
  • Benefits of long-distance hiking
  • PCT Gear advice!
  • ClothesPacks
  • Sleeping system
  • The ultralight movement - pros and cons
  • Gear and backpacking advice for the general backpacker
  • Tips for reducing overall pack weight
  • How to find 2 Foot Adventures
  • Closing thoughts: Misconceptions of “who” a Thru-Hiker is
  • www.2footadventures.com

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]]> Pillsbury (real name Mary) is a former PCT hiker and one of the founders of "2 Foot Adventures," a high-end pop-up gear shop located along the Pacific Crest Trail.  Each year, Mary helps dozens, if not hundreds, of weary Thru Hikers struggling with injury, gear troubles, and mental fatigue.   For some, 2-foot Adventures is a source of rejuvenation and encouragement, while for others, it's a place to drop some serious pack weight.  We spoke about common injuries on the PCT, how to get past the first 100 miles, what gear is proven to work, the benefits of Thru Hiking, and her advice to Thru Hikers on the PCT. 

Show Notes and Links

  • Introduction to 2 Food Adventures
  • Common issues after 100 miles on the PCT
  • Common Footwear issues and remedies
  • Overuse injuries, causes, and remedies
  • Long-distance hiking routines and techniques
  • Ego on the trail - miles, pace, distance
  • The PCT as a mental game
  • Post trail feelings
  • Benefits of long-distance hiking
  • PCT Gear advice!
  • ClothesPacks
  • Sleeping system
  • The ultralight movement - pros and cons
  • Gear and backpacking advice for the general backpacker
  • Tips for reducing overall pack weight
  • How to find 2 Foot Adventures
  • Closing thoughts: Misconceptions of “who” a Thru-Hiker is
  • www.2footadventures.com

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]]> Emory Wanger 55faf2dde4b0ef3f50c609aa:59bee79cedaed881775f0903:5aa591880d92979ac9748036 Sun, 11 Mar 2018 20:10:38 -0700 5161 21 full false #20 - Family, Photography, and the Mountain Life with Jacob Moon #20 - Family, Photography, and the Mountain Life with Jacob Moon Jacob Moon was a full-time nurse before his adventure photography career kicked off.  He spent his days off exploring the mountains and taking incredible landscape images that he mostly kept to himself until a friend prompted him to post them to Instagram, and the rest is history.  In this episode, we discuss integrating family into the outdoors, managing risk, and learning to backpack with a baby. 


Show Notes and Links

  • Introduction to Jacob Moon
  • How Jacob became a full-time photographer
  • What pushed Jacob to start climbing mountains 
  • Learning to climb mountains
  • Being safe in the mountains - learned or natural?
  • Introducing photography into mountain climbing 
  • Integrating family into the outdoors  
  • Car camping with a 3-week-old baby
  • Backpacking with a baby
  • How the outdoors impacts a baby and the parents 
  • How Jacob came to love the outdoors
  • The benefit of quality time with family
  • Advice to families looking to get outdoors and how to get started camping and backpacking with kids
  • Jacobs tips for landscape photography 
  • http://www.moonmountainman.com/
  • https://www.instagram.com/moonmountainman/

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]]> Jacob Moon was a full-time nurse before his adventure photography career kicked off.  He spent his days off exploring the mountains and taking incredible landscape images that he mostly kept to himself until a friend prompted him to post them to Instagram, and the rest is history.  In this episode, we discuss integrating family into the outdoors, managing risk, and learning to backpack with a baby. 


Show Notes and Links

  • Introduction to Jacob Moon
  • How Jacob became a full-time photographer
  • What pushed Jacob to start climbing mountains 
  • Learning to climb mountains
  • Being safe in the mountains - learned or natural?
  • Introducing photography into mountain climbing 
  • Integrating family into the outdoors  
  • Car camping with a 3-week-old baby
  • Backpacking with a baby
  • How the outdoors impacts a baby and the parents 
  • How Jacob came to love the outdoors
  • The benefit of quality time with family
  • Advice to families looking to get outdoors and how to get started camping and backpacking with kids
  • Jacobs tips for landscape photography 
  • http://www.moonmountainman.com/
  • https://www.instagram.com/moonmountainman/

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]]> Emory Wanger 55faf2dde4b0ef3f50c609aa:59bee79cedaed881775f0903:5a9c8ca9085229f6ca32c50c Sun, 04 Mar 2018 16:45:34 -0800 3006 20 full false #18 - SAWYER Water Filters #18 - SAWYER Water Filters Travis Avery of SAWYER joins the show to talk about what they offer and how their products solve the problem of filtering water.  I learned some things I didn't know previously, and I think if you're on the search for knowledge, this episode will suit you well.  Travis gives me a rundown of what they offer, how it works, and why their products are so popular.  

 

Show Notes and Links

  • Introduction to Sawyer and Travis Avery
  • Background on Sawyer 
  • How Sawyer approaches water filtering 
  • Unique attributes of the Sawyer design
  • Types of water filtering (squeeze versus gravity versus pump)
  • Common issues that arise from not filtering water 
  • How much dirty water it takes to cause digestive track issues
  • How the industry regulates what filters are safe and how Sawyer approaches delivery to the customer
  • Besides form factor, are all filters equal?
  • Sawyer Mini versus the Sawyer Squeeze 
  • Lifetime Warranty of the Sawyer Squeeze - how does that work?
  • Proper maintenance of Sawyer water filters
  • Before Sawyers hollow fiber solution, what were filters using to filter water?
  • Latest and greatest from Sawyer for 2018 
  • Solutions for added contamination (Adsorption)
  • Other Sawyer product offerings
  • How Sawyer is helping bring clean water to those in need around the globe.
  • www.sawyer.com
  • Sawyer's global impact  - https://international.sawyer.com/

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]]> Travis Avery of SAWYER joins the show to talk about what they offer and how their products solve the problem of filtering water.  I learned some things I didn't know previously, and I think if you're on the search for knowledge, this episode will suit you well.  Travis gives me a rundown of what they offer, how it works, and why their products are so popular.  

 

Show Notes and Links

  • Introduction to Sawyer and Travis Avery
  • Background on Sawyer 
  • How Sawyer approaches water filtering 
  • Unique attributes of the Sawyer design
  • Types of water filtering (squeeze versus gravity versus pump)
  • Common issues that arise from not filtering water 
  • How much dirty water it takes to cause digestive track issues
  • How the industry regulates what filters are safe and how Sawyer approaches delivery to the customer
  • Besides form factor, are all filters equal?
  • Sawyer Mini versus the Sawyer Squeeze 
  • Lifetime Warranty of the Sawyer Squeeze - how does that work?
  • Proper maintenance of Sawyer water filters
  • Before Sawyers hollow fiber solution, what were filters using to filter water?
  • Latest and greatest from Sawyer for 2018 
  • Solutions for added contamination (Adsorption)
  • Other Sawyer product offerings
  • How Sawyer is helping bring clean water to those in need around the globe.
  • www.sawyer.com
  • Sawyer's global impact  - https://international.sawyer.com/

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]]> Emory Wanger 55faf2dde4b0ef3f50c609aa:59bee79cedaed881775f0903:5a9c6563c830255b246d6f00 Sun, 04 Mar 2018 13:36:45 -0800 2565 18 full false #19 - ULA Equipment with Owner Chris McMaster #19 - ULA Equipment with Owner Chris McMaster Chris McMaster of ULA Equipment joins the show to talk about the company, the history, and what makes ULA so unique.


Show Notes and Links

  • Intro to Chris and ULA 
  • Origin story of ULA
  • How Chris came to own ULA
  • Design elements of ULA
  • The Thru-Hiker buy-off
  • What makes a ULA pack different
  • Pack features
  • Roll tops versus zippers
  • ULA suspensions 
  • Most popular ULA pack
  • The benefit of weight savings
  • Common issues with backpackers
  • How to fit a ULA pack
  • ULA belt systems
  • Pack warranty
  • Thoughts on cuben fiber as a fabric  
  • Advice to new backpackers
  • www.ula-equipment.com

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]]> Chris McMaster of ULA Equipment joins the show to talk about the company, the history, and what makes ULA so unique.


Show Notes and Links

  • Intro to Chris and ULA 
  • Origin story of ULA
  • How Chris came to own ULA
  • Design elements of ULA
  • The Thru-Hiker buy-off
  • What makes a ULA pack different
  • Pack features
  • Roll tops versus zippers
  • ULA suspensions 
  • Most popular ULA pack
  • The benefit of weight savings
  • Common issues with backpackers
  • How to fit a ULA pack
  • ULA belt systems
  • Pack warranty
  • Thoughts on cuben fiber as a fabric  
  • Advice to new backpackers
  • www.ula-equipment.com

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]]> Emory Wanger 55faf2dde4b0ef3f50c609aa:59bee79cedaed881775f0903:5a7df82d53450a3d5971ec96 Tue, 20 Feb 2018 14:31:34 -0800 2704 19 full false #17 - Triple Crown of 200's with Mike McKnight #17 - Triple Crown of 200's with Mike McKnight Mike McKnight is the first winner of the Triple Crown of Ultra 200 Mile races by having the lowest combined time of the Bigfoot 200, Tahoe 200, and Moab 240.  I asked Mike to come on the podcast to talk about what he does and how he does it.  Like most things, Mike didn't set out to run three races in three months, but that's what happened and because he stuck it out, he has a pretty cool story to tell.   We talk about his ability to push through when he wanted to quit, his love for his family, and his admiration for fellow runners.  You're going to love hearing Mike tell this story.

Show Notes and Links

  • Intro to Mike McKnight
  • The history of the Triple Crown and how it works
  • How Mike started down the path of ultra-running
  • The ups and downs of each trail
  • How the desire to quit played a role in Mike’s success in the Triple Crown
  • Digesting the experience of Mikes's accomplishment and what the trail means
  • Altra Footwear - benefits and design
  • Mike's advice to getting into long-distance running and how to work up to ultra distances


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]]> Mike McKnight is the first winner of the Triple Crown of Ultra 200 Mile races by having the lowest combined time of the Bigfoot 200, Tahoe 200, and Moab 240.  I asked Mike to come on the podcast to talk about what he does and how he does it.  Like most things, Mike didn't set out to run three races in three months, but that's what happened and because he stuck it out, he has a pretty cool story to tell.   We talk about his ability to push through when he wanted to quit, his love for his family, and his admiration for fellow runners.  You're going to love hearing Mike tell this story.

Show Notes and Links

  • Intro to Mike McKnight
  • The history of the Triple Crown and how it works
  • How Mike started down the path of ultra-running
  • The ups and downs of each trail
  • How the desire to quit played a role in Mike’s success in the Triple Crown
  • Digesting the experience of Mikes's accomplishment and what the trail means
  • Altra Footwear - benefits and design
  • Mike's advice to getting into long-distance running and how to work up to ultra distances


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]]> Emory Wanger 55faf2dde4b0ef3f50c609aa:59bee79cedaed881775f0903:5a6fb230e2c48387dfe8c1c2 Wed, 31 Jan 2018 19:14:40 -0800 3532 17 full false #16 - Finding Photography With Chris Burkard #16 - Finding Photography With Chris Burkard Chris Burkard is an adventure photographer, but he's also a family man.  He's made a name for himself photographing the life of surfers worldwide and in some pretty extreme environments, so I asked Chris if he'd be willing to come on the podcast to share his story and he kindly agreed.

You're going to learn about photography in this episode, but you'll also learn how to be a photographer inside and how to tell a story through images.  I think we all want to return from the field with pictures that tell the story so those stories live on long after we're gone and by the end of this episode, you might learn a few things about how to do that successfully with whatever gear you have on you.

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  • Introduction to Chris and what he does
  • Chris’s background 
  • The process of framing an image and owning the process
  • Who Chris was before photography and what gave him the passion to explore the world
  • How Chris finds balance in his work and what he wishes to communicate
  • How to return to challenging places over and over again and do so successfully
  • Viewing yourself as a storyteller
  • How Adventure Photography works
  • What Chris gets from photography as a person
  • How art has played a roll in telling the human story through history
  • Advice to young creatives 
  • How to find Chris online
  • https://www.chrisburkard.com/
  • https://www.instagram.com/chrisburkard

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]]> Chris Burkard is an adventure photographer, but he's also a family man.  He's made a name for himself photographing the life of surfers worldwide and in some pretty extreme environments, so I asked Chris if he'd be willing to come on the podcast to share his story and he kindly agreed.

You're going to learn about photography in this episode, but you'll also learn how to be a photographer inside and how to tell a story through images.  I think we all want to return from the field with pictures that tell the story so those stories live on long after we're gone and by the end of this episode, you might learn a few things about how to do that successfully with whatever gear you have on you.

Show Notes and Links

  • Introduction to Chris and what he does
  • Chris’s background 
  • The process of framing an image and owning the process
  • Who Chris was before photography and what gave him the passion to explore the world
  • How Chris finds balance in his work and what he wishes to communicate
  • How to return to challenging places over and over again and do so successfully
  • Viewing yourself as a storyteller
  • How Adventure Photography works
  • What Chris gets from photography as a person
  • How art has played a roll in telling the human story through history
  • Advice to young creatives 
  • How to find Chris online
  • https://www.chrisburkard.com/
  • https://www.instagram.com/chrisburkard

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]]> Emory Wanger 55faf2dde4b0ef3f50c609aa:59bee79cedaed881775f0903:5a5d1768e2c483cd41c28c8b Thu, 18 Jan 2018 21:36:31 -0800 3015 16 full false #15 - Ultralight Quilts with Enlightened Equipment #15 - Ultralight Quilts with Enlightened Equipment Skylar Ogren is the Head of Marketing for Enlightened Equipment and joins me on this episode to explain what exactly a "quilt" is and how it will benefit you in the backcountry.  You're about to learn what a quilt is, how it works, who Enlightened Equipment is, how down "fill" ratings impact your comfort levels and overall pack weight, and much more!

Show Notes and Links

  • Intro to EE
  • Defining a “quilt”
  • Quilts versus regular bags
  • Common concerns with going with a sleeping quilt
  • Sleeping in a quilt
  • How a quilt can reduce your overall pack weight 
  • Benefits of better sleep 
  • Why Thru Hikers have chosen quilts over traditional bags
  • AT Speed Record set this year by a user of Enlightened Equipment
  • Impacts of having more weight than what you need in your pack
  • The differences in the quality of down
  • How down fill weight works
  • Enlightened Equipment origin story and timeline
  • Ordering process, options, and custom-built quilts
  • Times when quilts don’t make “sense” 
  • How to choose a quilt for your application
  • Skylar’s advice for choosing gear
  • Enlightened Equipment product offerings
  • How to reach EE
  • www.enlightenedequipment.com

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]]> Skylar Ogren is the Head of Marketing for Enlightened Equipment and joins me on this episode to explain what exactly a "quilt" is and how it will benefit you in the backcountry.  You're about to learn what a quilt is, how it works, who Enlightened Equipment is, how down "fill" ratings impact your comfort levels and overall pack weight, and much more!

Show Notes and Links

  • Intro to EE
  • Defining a “quilt”
  • Quilts versus regular bags
  • Common concerns with going with a sleeping quilt
  • Sleeping in a quilt
  • How a quilt can reduce your overall pack weight 
  • Benefits of better sleep 
  • Why Thru Hikers have chosen quilts over traditional bags
  • AT Speed Record set this year by a user of Enlightened Equipment
  • Impacts of having more weight than what you need in your pack
  • The differences in the quality of down
  • How down fill weight works
  • Enlightened Equipment origin story and timeline
  • Ordering process, options, and custom-built quilts
  • Times when quilts don’t make “sense” 
  • How to choose a quilt for your application
  • Skylar’s advice for choosing gear
  • Enlightened Equipment product offerings
  • How to reach EE
  • www.enlightenedequipment.com

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]]> Emory Wanger 55faf2dde4b0ef3f50c609aa:59bee79cedaed881775f0903:5a557c4cf9619ace89b5ed8a Tue, 09 Jan 2018 19:42:18 -0800 3843 15 full false #14 How a Family Thru Hiked the Appalachian Trail with a Baby #14 How a Family Thru Hiked the Appalachian Trail with a Baby Ellie was only a year old when her parents put her in a backpack and embarked on a dream hike on the Appalachian Trial.  Ellie spent just over six months watching the world go by at 3 mph through amazing landscapes while meeting the most amazing people in the Thru Hiking community.  She even learned to walk while on the AT!!!

This is that story.

Show Notes and Links

  • Introductions 
  • How  Bekah and Derrick decided to hike the AT with a baby
  • How to plan for a Thru-Hike with a baby
  • Precautions and planning
  • Feedback from friends and family before the hike
  • Impressions from other Thru Hikers of Ellie being carried on the trail.
  • Daily routines on the AT
  • "Blowouts"
  • Lessons learned
  • Highs and lows
  • Advice to new hikers and new parents
  • Baby carrier suggestions
  • Plans for 2018

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]]> Ellie was only a year old when her parents put her in a backpack and embarked on a dream hike on the Appalachian Trial.  Ellie spent just over six months watching the world go by at 3 mph through amazing landscapes while meeting the most amazing people in the Thru Hiking community.  She even learned to walk while on the AT!!!

This is that story.

Show Notes and Links

  • Introductions 
  • How  Bekah and Derrick decided to hike the AT with a baby
  • How to plan for a Thru-Hike with a baby
  • Precautions and planning
  • Feedback from friends and family before the hike
  • Impressions from other Thru Hikers of Ellie being carried on the trail.
  • Daily routines on the AT
  • "Blowouts"
  • Lessons learned
  • Highs and lows
  • Advice to new hikers and new parents
  • Baby carrier suggestions
  • Plans for 2018

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]]> Emory Wanger 55faf2dde4b0ef3f50c609aa:59bee79cedaed881775f0903:5a4d7f32652dea036c9835db Wed, 03 Jan 2018 19:38:22 -0800 3415 14 full false #13 Gear Review: Seek Outside Redcliff #13 Gear Review: Seek Outside Redcliff On this episode, I dive into a solo review of the Seek Outside Redcliff shelter.  This is a popular article on my website, so I decided to put it in audio format and let you listen to my review rather than read it. 

I've had this shelter for a couple of years now and love it just as much today as I did when I first showed up at my door.If you're interested in switching to a floorless style shelter for your backcountry adventures and Seek Outside has been on your radar, you'll want to give this episode a listen.  For additional images and comments, please see the links below!

Show Notes

  • Why and how I chose the Seek Outside Redcliff
  • Initial impressions of the Redcliff
  • Common issues with going "floorless" - mainly bugs
  • Durability and wind resistance Ease of pitching
  • What sold me on the Redcliff - Livability
  • Packability of the Redcliff
  • Condensation solutions
  • Seam sealing rants...
  • Redcliff Sizing
  • Redcliff best uses
  • Overall design
  • Redcliff compared to the Cimarron and Silvertip

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]]> On this episode, I dive into a solo review of the Seek Outside Redcliff shelter.  This is a popular article on my website, so I decided to put it in audio format and let you listen to my review rather than read it. 

I've had this shelter for a couple of years now and love it just as much today as I did when I first showed up at my door.If you're interested in switching to a floorless style shelter for your backcountry adventures and Seek Outside has been on your radar, you'll want to give this episode a listen.  For additional images and comments, please see the links below!

Show Notes

  • Why and how I chose the Seek Outside Redcliff
  • Initial impressions of the Redcliff
  • Common issues with going "floorless" - mainly bugs
  • Durability and wind resistance Ease of pitching
  • What sold me on the Redcliff - Livability
  • Packability of the Redcliff
  • Condensation solutions
  • Seam sealing rants...
  • Redcliff Sizing
  • Redcliff best uses
  • Overall design
  • Redcliff compared to the Cimarron and Silvertip

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]]> Emory Wanger 55faf2dde4b0ef3f50c609aa:59bee79cedaed881775f0903:5a3ef598652dea3131f37d6d Tue, 26 Dec 2017 10:07:10 -0800 2128 13 full true #12 - Getting to Know SIXSITE Gear #12 - Getting to Know SIXSITE Gear Stephen Holley from SIXSITE Gear joins me to talk about the company he founded and what makes his products or brand different than his competitors.  I've known of SIXSITE for a while now and, like most, had questions about their offerings and why I might choose to purchase from them versus through someone else. 

 
Show Notes and Links

  • Intro to SIXSITE Gear
  • How and why SIXSITE Gear was founded
  • Why go consumer-direct
  • Special Ops to hunting transition
  • What the  “former Navy SEAL” label means to Stephen and the community he comes from  
  • SIXSITE Gear product offering overview
  • Hunting pack design
  • SIXSITE apparel “style and fit” 
  • SIXSITE Warranty, shipping, and return policy

 

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Show Notes and Links

  • Intro to SIXSITE Gear
  • How and why SIXSITE Gear was founded
  • Why go consumer-direct
  • Special Ops to hunting transition
  • What the  “former Navy SEAL” label means to Stephen and the community he comes from  
  • SIXSITE Gear product offering overview
  • Hunting pack design
  • SIXSITE apparel “style and fit” 
  • SIXSITE Warranty, shipping, and return policy

 

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]]> Emory Wanger 55faf2dde4b0ef3f50c609aa:59bee79cedaed881775f0903:5a38480f8165f5e58acade92 Tue, 19 Dec 2017 17:53:30 -0800 2452 12 full false #11 - The Dynamics of Solo Hunting with Ryan Lampers #11 - The Dynamics of Solo Hunting with Ryan Lampers On this episode, Ryan Lampers joins me to talk about how he got into solo hunting, why he continues to do it, and what he gets out of it as opposed to hunting with a partner.  If you're a backpacker and ever find yourself in a situation where a friend can't go or maybe cancels at the last minute, and you question whether or not you should continue alone, then this episode is for you.  

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]]> Emory Wanger 55faf2dde4b0ef3f50c609aa:59bee79cedaed881775f0903:5a2df5dbc83025c41d0c4383 Tue, 12 Dec 2017 15:07:53 -0800 3813 11 full false #10 - Introduction to Optics with Brendon Weaver from Maven Built Optics #10 - Introduction to Optics with Brendon Weaver from Maven Built Optics Brendon Weaver, a co-founder of Maven Built Optics, joins me to explain the basics of the optics world.  We talk about how to choose an optics, what goes into them, and what the numbers mean. If you're currently shopping, you won't want to miss this one!

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]]> Emory Wanger 55faf2dde4b0ef3f50c609aa:59bee79cedaed881775f0903:5a249ff1e4966bbfda5b2bb7 Mon, 04 Dec 2017 19:19:26 -0800 3929 10 full false #9 - Women In The Outdoors with Ashli Baldwin #9 - Women In The Outdoors with Ashli Baldwin Ashli Baldwin joins me on this episode to answer an audience member's question about what it's like for women in the outdoors.  From gear to mindset, Ashli covers it all and offers great advice to women getting into backpacking.

Show Notes and Links

  • Introduction to Ashli
  • Girls Weekend Article from By Land
  • What’s it like for a woman on a long trail?
  • Women in the outdoors
  • Mental differences for women on trails
  • Social pressures from attempting a Thru Hike 
  • Solo women on long trails
  • Differences between the way men and women hike
  • Concerns for women while backpacking - is it dangerous for women being solo in the outdoors?  
  • Self-defense concerns
  • Female-specific gear for backpacking - not just a marketing scam!
  • Sleeping bag differences
  • Female-specific packs - major differences
  • Recent increases in women-specific hiking groups and outings
  • Outdoor Woman's Alliance
  • Ashli’s trip to Zion National Park
  • Trail withdrawals
  • Ashli’s tips and advice for women getting into backpacking
  • www.tentside.com
  • Outdoor Woman's Alliance
  • Girls Weekend Article - Emory
  • Choosing a Woman's Sleeping Bag - Everything You Need To Know

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Show Notes and Links

  • Introduction to Ashli
  • Girls Weekend Article from By Land
  • What’s it like for a woman on a long trail?
  • Women in the outdoors
  • Mental differences for women on trails
  • Social pressures from attempting a Thru Hike 
  • Solo women on long trails
  • Differences between the way men and women hike
  • Concerns for women while backpacking - is it dangerous for women being solo in the outdoors?  
  • Self-defense concerns
  • Female-specific gear for backpacking - not just a marketing scam!
  • Sleeping bag differences
  • Female-specific packs - major differences
  • Recent increases in women-specific hiking groups and outings
  • Outdoor Woman's Alliance
  • Ashli’s trip to Zion National Park
  • Trail withdrawals
  • Ashli’s tips and advice for women getting into backpacking
  • www.tentside.com
  • Outdoor Woman's Alliance
  • Girls Weekend Article - Emory
  • Choosing a Woman's Sleeping Bag - Everything You Need To Know

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]]> Emory Wanger 55faf2dde4b0ef3f50c609aa:59bee79cedaed881775f0903:5a1600f10d92971bbc5a1d3a Mon, 27 Nov 2017 18:25:06 -0800 3807 9 full false #8 - Balancing Family and the Outdoors with Taren Weigandt #8 - Balancing Family and the Outdoors with Taren Weigandt Taren Weigandt of joins me to talk about how to stay active in the outdoors with a family.  Taren is a blogger, hunter, mother of 3 (including twin boys), and a wife.  She was raised in a hunting family and has always led an active lifestyle even while raising a family. 

If you're struggling to get outside because you have a family, or you're thinking of starting a family and are curious about what happens to your adventures after that first baby comes along, you're going to want to give this one a listen. 

Show Notes

  • Introductions 
  • What changes when kids arrive?
  • How to find balance between the outdoors and family
  • Introducing kids to hunting
  • How to keep kids happy in the outdoors
  • Lessons learned
  • Taren's advice to the outdoorsy family

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]]> Taren Weigandt of joins me to talk about how to stay active in the outdoors with a family.  Taren is a blogger, hunter, mother of 3 (including twin boys), and a wife.  She was raised in a hunting family and has always led an active lifestyle even while raising a family. 

If you're struggling to get outside because you have a family, or you're thinking of starting a family and are curious about what happens to your adventures after that first baby comes along, you're going to want to give this one a listen. 

Show Notes

  • Introductions 
  • What changes when kids arrive?
  • How to find balance between the outdoors and family
  • Introducing kids to hunting
  • How to keep kids happy in the outdoors
  • Lessons learned
  • Taren's advice to the outdoorsy family

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]]> Emory Wanger 55faf2dde4b0ef3f50c609aa:59bee79cedaed881775f0903:5a120a66e4966b5d536525f4 Sun, 19 Nov 2017 15:16:41 -0800 3935 8 full false #7- The Modern Huntsman #7- The Modern Huntsman On this episode of the By Land Podcast, I talk with Brad Neathery and Tyler Sharp from Modern Huntsman to discuss their campaign to create a biannual publication focused on telling the story of hunting through beautiful writing and photography.

Show Notes and Links

  • Introductions to Brad Neathery and Tyler Sharp
  • What is the Modern Huntsman
  • The origin story MH
  • Why MH matters
  • Who's involved
  • How listeners can help
  • Brad and Tyler's advice to those looking to learn more about hunting and maybe try it for themselves.
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Show Notes and Links

  • Introductions to Brad Neathery and Tyler Sharp
  • What is the Modern Huntsman
  • The origin story MH
  • Why MH matters
  • Who's involved
  • How listeners can help
  • Brad and Tyler's advice to those looking to learn more about hunting and maybe try it for themselves.
  • https://modernhuntsman.com/

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]]> Emory Wanger 55faf2dde4b0ef3f50c609aa:59bee79cedaed881775f0903:59fa74f2085229169f2d7fb9 Mon, 06 Nov 2017 08:15:38 -0800 3878 7 full false #6 - Mobile Navigation with Gaia GPS #6 - Mobile Navigation with Gaia GPS On this episode, I talk with Ashli from Gaia GPS about using your mobile device as a navigation tool.  If you're curious about mobile land navigation and not sure about switching to using your smartphone as a backcountry mapping tool, this episode is for you!


Show Notes and Links

  • Intro to Ashli and Gaia GPS
  • What is Gaia?
  • What is mobile mapping and navigation?
  • Gaia GPS Features
  • Pros and cons to using your smartphone for navigation
  • How Ashli uses her Gaia GPS app
  • Gaia for Search and Rescue (True Story)
  • Emory's experience with using Gaia and his phone for mobile navigation
  • How Emory uses his Gaia app
  • Ashli's outdoor advice to beginners
  • Ashli's Appalachian Trail Thru-Hike story and lessons learned
  • Advice on Thru-Hiking
  • Gaia promotion for By Land listeners 
  • www.gaiagps.com
  • 3 Months FREE to Gaia Premium: https://www.gaiagps.com/premium/?PROMO=BYLAND
  • 20% off Gaia Premium: https://www.gaiagps.com/byland20/

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Show Notes and Links

  • Intro to Ashli and Gaia GPS
  • What is Gaia?
  • What is mobile mapping and navigation?
  • Gaia GPS Features
  • Pros and cons to using your smartphone for navigation
  • How Ashli uses her Gaia GPS app
  • Gaia for Search and Rescue (True Story)
  • Emory's experience with using Gaia and his phone for mobile navigation
  • How Emory uses his Gaia app
  • Ashli's outdoor advice to beginners
  • Ashli's Appalachian Trail Thru-Hike story and lessons learned
  • Advice on Thru-Hiking
  • Gaia promotion for By Land listeners 
  • www.gaiagps.com
  • 3 Months FREE to Gaia Premium: https://www.gaiagps.com/premium/?PROMO=BYLAND
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]]> Emory Wanger 55faf2dde4b0ef3f50c609aa:59bee79cedaed881775f0903:59f9eac12774d19350403c83 Wed, 01 Nov 2017 09:41:28 -0700 3438 6 full false #5 - Seek Outside Shelters with Kevin Timm #5 - Seek Outside Shelters with Kevin Timm On this episode, I talk with Kevin Time from Seek Outside about floorless shelters.  We discuss what goes into a shelter like this, how to use one properly, and the pros and cons of this kind of tent.

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]]> Emory Wanger 55faf2dde4b0ef3f50c609aa:59bee79cedaed881775f0903:59efb8399f07f51a5de75a86 Tue, 24 Oct 2017 15:31:26 -0700 3709 5 full false #4 - Blacktailed Deer Hunting, Patience, and the Power of Information Based Hunting with Scott Haugen #4 - Blacktailed Deer Hunting, Patience, and the Power of Information Based Hunting with Scott Haugen On this episode, I talk with Scott Haugen about patience plays a part in his success with hunting.  We cover how to hunt Blacktailed deer in the general season and during the rut, techniques on how to do so, and what Scott is up to these days with his career.  If you're a hunter of any kind, you'll love this episode and enjoy what Scott offers his audience.

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]]> Emory Wanger 55faf2dde4b0ef3f50c609aa:59bee79cedaed881775f0903:59da6af11f318d0de5dc11cc Tue, 17 Oct 2017 16:25:37 -0700 4208 4 full false #3 - Anatomy of a Backpack with Steve Speck of Exo Mountain Gear #3 - Anatomy of a Backpack with Steve Speck of Exo Mountain Gear Steve Speck from Exo Mountain Gear joins me on the podcast to discuss the anatomy of a backpack and how everything works together.   Steve breaks it all down by component and describes what each part does and what he's learned throughout the process of being a successful pack maker. 

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]]> Emory Wanger 55faf2dde4b0ef3f50c609aa:59bee79cedaed881775f0903:59ca7463268b96752f082da4 Wed, 11 Oct 2017 13:18:25 -0700 3802 3 full false #2 - The Struggles of Disconnecting with Josh Kirchner #2 - The Struggles of Disconnecting with Josh Kirchner I sit down with Josh Kirchner from www.dialedinhunter.com to discuss the weird struggles of successfully disconnecting when we head into the mountains.  Josh offers his perspective on the subject and tools to help keep your mind active and focused when things get tough. 

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]]> Emory Wanger 55faf2dde4b0ef3f50c609aa:59bee79cedaed881775f0903:59ca74389f7456ec37a2c7bd Sun, 08 Oct 2017 12:37:45 -0700 3615 2 full false #1 - Pacific Crest Trail 2017 Recap with Jose Montanez #1 - Pacific Crest Trail 2017 Recap with Jose Montanez On this very first episode of the By Land Podcast, I sit down with my PCT hiking partner, Jose (Bubbles), to discuss our journey up the Pacific Crest Trail in 2017.  We cover what it's like coming home, transitioning back into everyday life, and what it takes to hike the trail.   We also discuss our decisions, the mental struggles of Thru Hiking, and what we learned along the way. 

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]]> On this very first episode of the By Land Podcast, I sit down with my PCT hiking partner, Jose (Bubbles), to discuss our journey up the Pacific Crest Trail in 2017.  We cover what it's like coming home, transitioning back into everyday life, and what it takes to hike the trail.   We also discuss our decisions, the mental struggles of Thru Hiking, and what we learned along the way. 

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]]> Emory Wanger 55faf2dde4b0ef3f50c609aa:59bee79cedaed881775f0903:59c82ec0e9bfdfecd275c75c Sun, 08 Oct 2017 12:29:22 -0700 4043 1 full false Welcome to The By Land Podcast Welcome to The By Land Podcast On this episode of the By Land Podcast, I speak for just a few minutes about what By Land is and what you can expect from the Podcast going forward. If you're looking to learn about the outdoors from those who either make a living in it or those who have simply found a way to enjoy their time successfully, this podcast is for you!

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]]> On this episode of the By Land Podcast, I speak for just a few minutes about what By Land is and what you can expect from the Podcast going forward. If you're looking to learn about the outdoors from those who either make a living in it or those who have simply found a way to enjoy their time successfully, this podcast is for you!

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]]> Emory Ronald: Backpacker, Hunter, Photographer and Blogger 55faf2dde4b0ef3f50c609aa:59bee79cedaed881775f0903:59bee86bf7e0ab46771f63fb Sun, 08 Oct 2017 11:40:32 -0700 206 full false