Both/And: A Sexual Violence Prevention Podcast

Conflict is Not Abuse with Sarah Schulman

Fri, 26 Jun 2026 11:00:00 -0600

Even if you are unfamiliar with today's guest, novelist, playwright, screenwriter, nonfiction writer and AIDS historian Sarah Schulman, there’s a very good chance that you have been influenced by her work. Her ideas and approach to activism have become woven into our collective awareness in a way that makes people of so many different experiences and perspectives sit up and pay attention. In a world that is increasingly either/or, Schulman’s nuance and emphasis on concrete effectiveness and the need to look at situations within their context instead of as caricatures drawn to reinforce dominant narratives make her a perfect guest for Both/And. In our conversation, we explore how her book, Conflict is Not Abuse can inform our approach to our prevention practices, our interpersonal dealings, and our efforts to confront systemic harm. I hope you enjoy this conversation as much as I did!

Sarah Schulman teaches Creative Writing (Nonfiction and Fiction) with an emphasis on manuscript development. She is a novelist, playwright, screenwriter, nonfiction writer and AIDS historian.

Sarah is a native New Yorker, born in 1958, who started as a journalist in the grassroots lesbian, gay and feminist press in 1979. That year she became active in the Reproductive Rights Movement, working for abortion rights and against sterilization abuse. Her first plays were produced as part of the Downtown Arts Scene of the 1980's, and her first novel was published in 1984.

In 1986 Sarah and her longtime collaborator Jim Hubbard started MIX:The Queer Experimental Film and Video Festival which lasted for 33 years. She has been a collaborator on many experimental films, including screenwriter or co-screenwriter for 4 features: The Owls (dir. Cheryl Dunye), Mommy Is Coming (dir. Cheryl Dunye), Jason and Shirley (dir. Stephen Winter) and United In Anger: A History of ACT UP (dir. Jim Hubbard.) Her films have shown in Theatrical Distribution and at The Berlin Film Festival, Hot Docs, Bamfest, The Museum of Modern Art, Outfest, and on the Criterian Collection.

She was a member of ACT UP, New York from 1987 to 1992, and a co-founder of the Lesbian Avengers. Today she serves on the Advisory Board of Jewish Voice for Peace and is co-director of The ACT UP Oral History Project.

She is the author of 21 books, including novels in multiple genres: historical fiction, literary fiction, experimental work, detective novels, speculative fiction. Sarah’s work as a journalist, activist, and novelist is extensively discussed in “Queer Kinship in Sarah Schulman’s AIDS Novels” (Routledge 2024), a research monograph juxtaposing the works about the AIDS epidemic.

In 2002, Sarah became an "Uptown" playwright with the world premiere of her play CARSON McCULLERS (dir. Marion McClinton) followed by MANIC FLIGHT REACTION (w/ Deirdre O'Connell), both at Playwrights Horizons. Her play THE BURNING DECK (w/ Diane Venora) was performed at the La Jolla Playhouse, her adaptation of IB Singer's ENEMIES, A LOVE STORY (w/ Morgan Spector) premiered at the Wilma Theater and THE LADY HAMLET opened at The Provincetown Theater (dir. by David Drake, W/ Jennifer Van Dyck.) Her plays have been developed at The Goodman Theater, The Cleveland Playhouse, The Berkshire Theater Festival, The Vineyard, The Roundabout, and many other theaters.

LINKS:

Conflict is not Abuse Overstating Harm, Community Responsibility, and the Duty of Repair

United in Anger A history of ACT-UP

ACT-UP Oral History Project

Let the Record Show A Political History of ACT UP New York, 1987-1993

The Fantasy and Necessity of Solidarity

People in Trouble

How to Survive the End of the World episode with Sarah Schulman

Building Resilient Organizations

Both/And is a project of the New Mexico Coalition of Sexual Assault Programs. www.nmcsap.org
Need support? Call, text, or chat the NM Sexual Assault Helpline at 1-844-NMSAHLP | 1-844-667-2457 | www.nmsahelp.org

Intro music: "Can't Get Enough Sunlight" written and recorded by Michelle Chamuel http://michellechamuel.com/
Logo: Alex Ross-Reed
Produced by: Jess Clark
Edited By: Dacia Clay at Pillow Fort Studios
https://www.pillowfortpodcasts.com

Ruining "The Moment" with Erin Tillman

Tue, 19 May 2026 10:00:00 -0600

When we talk about consent in community or in school classrooms or as commentary on social media, one of the common refrains is “but it’ll ruin the moment!”. This idea of “the moment” has been in large part created and reinforced by the movies and tv we have grown up with. In recent years, the creation of that moment has been given extra care and consideration by hiring Intimacy Coordinators. Erin Tillman, CEO of Relational Equity Group, is, among many things, a Certified Intimacy Coordinator who works to facilitate conversations around boundaries and safety, while also being a cheerleader for the creative process. In this episode, Erin and I dive into why intimacy coordination exists in the first place, the relationship between comprehensive sexuality education and media, and the lessons we can all learn from intimacy coordination.

I hope you enjoy!

Links:

Find Erin HERE!

Public Education as a Site of Community Transformation with Kate Noble

Fri, 20 Feb 2026 15:00:00 -0700

Have you ever wanted to make a change in your community and not known where to start? Do you have children? Have you ever cared about traffic or where alcohol can be sold or food insecurity or mental health or flu vaccinations or access to books? Your community public schools are the place where you can have an impact on every one of those issues and so much more. In this episode, I spoke with Kate Noble, President of the Santa Fe Public School Board and CEO of Growing up New Mexico about public Schools as the foundation for community wellness. Kate is brilliant and funny and deeply passionate about public education.

Kate Noble was born in Santa Fe and got a wonderful education in the Santa Fe Public Schools. She graduated from Santa Fe High School and attended Columbia University in New York City, graduating with a Bachelor of Arts in Film Studies. Kate spent 10 years at the BBC’s Business News Desk as a producer, reporter and anchor. She then returned to Santa Fe and began working for the City of Santa Fe in economic and community development, where she focused on growing local businesses and local talent. She joined Growing Up New Mexico, an early childhood community organization, in 2018, and became CEO in 2023. She is proud to have her son in the Santa Fe Public Schools and considers him her greatest teacher.

Kate has spent the last eight and a half years serving on the SFPS Board. She believes in the power of running a good meeting, and values the different viewpoints of fellow Board Members. She is proud of the progress made during her time on the Board including increases in graduation rates, and raises for staff.

Protecting Title IX with Shiwali Patel

Tue, 13 Jan 2026 13:00:00 -0700

What would you do if a house is on fire and the firefighters on the scene not only refuse to put it out, they joyfully add fuel to it while joking about how great it was to start the fire in the first place? After talking with today’s guest, Shiwali Patel, Senior Director of Education Justice at the National Women’s Law Center, about protecting students under Title IX, this is the scenario that came to mind for me. Thankfully, when faced with the endless challenges of navigating systems that are being increasingly weaponized against the very people they were meant to protect, Shiwali doesn’t run from the fire. She is equipped with years of experience, a deep well of passion, and a belief that even as systems are falling apart around us, we can still make meaningful change and protect students.

Shiwali Patel (she/her) is the Senior Director of Education Justice at the National Women’s Law Center where she oversees advocacy addressing sex-based harassment in schools and works to strengthen civil rights protections for LGBTQI+ students and advocates broadly for civil rights in education. Previously, she was at the U.S. Department of Education’s Office for Civil Rights (OCR), where she worked on policy and guidance interpreting Title IX protections, including schools' responsibilities in responding to sexual harassment, protections for transgender students, and the rights of girls of color. Shiwali was also an Administrative Judge at the U.S. Department of Energy, a Special Assistant U.S. Attorney in D.C. in the Sex Offense and Domestic Violence Unit, a judicial law clerk, and a community educator at the D.C. Rape Crisis Center. Shiwali currently serves as the Co-Chair of the Leadership Conference on Civil and Human Rights’ Education Task Force and on the Board of Directors of Callisto. She is also an adjunct professor at American University where she teaches Gender and Law, and Sex Discrimination in Education at the law school.

Links:

The Lawyer who Can’t Let it Go

Defending Trans Women’s Rights

The Midlife Crisis of Title IX

Don’t Believe Betsy DeVos

The Proposed Title IX Rules Make No Practical, Moral, or Legal Sense

Years Later, We Must Amend Title IX to End Sex-Based Harassment in Schools

Ending Sexual Violence 50 Years After Title IX

The Liberatory Power of Sex Ed with Jacyln Friedman

Tue, 23 Sep 2025 12:00:00 -0600

“We don’t have a problem with support for sex ed in this country, we have a problem with prioritizing it, and making it an issue that they want to stick their neck out on. We have an action problem”

In this episode, I had the absolute joy of speaking with Jaclyn Friedman, author, organizer, and Executive Director of EducateUS, a movement working to bring about a complete transformation of K-12 public sex education in the United States, in order to foster a new generation of Americans who are secure in their own bodily sovereignty, recognize and respect that sovereignty in everyone else regardless of race, place, creed, class or gender, know all the essential facts about how bodies work, and are fully prepared to build loving relationships with themselves and others.

Jaclyn and I took a deep dive into comprehensive sex ed as a liberatory and anti-authoritarian tool that creates change far beyond the high school classroom.

EducateUS is led by Founder and Executive Director Jaclyn Friedman, a lifelong activist, advocate and organizer. Friedman’s work has globally popularized the affirmative consent standard of sexual consent. Her first book, Yes Means Yes: Visions of Female Sexual Power and a World Without Rape, was one of Publisher’s Weekly’s Top 100 Books of 2009, and has inspired new laws in five U.S. states, as well as policies on countless campuses across the country and the world. She also spearheaded the legendary #FBrape campaign, which forced Facebook to address and exclude content that promotes or trivializes violence against women under their hate speech policy, and is founder and former executive director of Women, Action & the Media (WAM!).

LINKS:

Drinking and rape lets wise up about it

Educate US Action

Yes Means Yes: Visions of Female Power and a World Without Rape

Unscrewed: Women, Sex, Power, and How to Stop Letting the System Screw Us All

What You Really Really Want: The Smart Girl's Shame-Free Guide to Sex and Safety

Believe Me: How Trusting Women Can Change the World

Sex Ed For Social Change

Framing Sexual Violence with Julie Sweetland

Fri, 10 Jan 2025 15:00:00 -0700

In my time doing prevention, I have spent an unreasonable number of hours thinking about why people can’t just get it! Why can’t they see that our positions on violence and oppression are rational and moral and just…right!? Well, it turns out that when it comes to social change, how we communicate an idea is often just as important as the idea itself. Today's guest, Dr. Julie Sweetland is a sociolinguist and a senior advisor at the FrameWorks Institute. She is an expert in framing research and strategy, and in this conversation, she was able to answer those questions for me and give me a clearer path forward in framing that actually works.

Since joining FrameWorks in 2012, Dr. Sweetland has designed and led reframing initiatives on climate change, education equity, childhood adversity, and more. Her skill in translating framing research into communication strategy has helped advocates, policymakers, and scientists drive change at the national, state, and grassroots levels. Since 2017, Julie has worked primarily with the public health sector, bringing the science and strategy of framing to health topics like health equity, tobacco control, maternal mortality, and childhood vaccination.

Prior to joining FrameWorks, Julie spent over a decade working in education reform as a classroom teacher, teacher educator, and advocate. At Center for Inspired Teaching, she designed an innovative teacher residency which has since trained hundreds of progressive educators who work throughout DC public schools.

Julie’s linguistic research has focused on the intersection of language and race, with a particular focus on how language can be used to disrupt racism in schools and beyond. Her research has appeared in Journal of Sociolinguistics, Educational Researcher, and she is the co-author of African American, Creole, and Other Vernacular Englishes in Education.

Dr. Sweetland is a graduate of Georgetown University and completed her MA and PhD in linguistics at Stanford University.

LINKS:
Frameworks
Compassion Fatigue
Water use in Santa Fe, NM over 20 years.

Dignity, Community Care, and Paid Family Medical Leave with Josephine Kalipeni

Fri, 20 Sep 2024 14:00:00 -0600

Many individuals and organizations across the country have been working for years to enact policies that ensure workers are able to do things like care for themselves or a loved one when they are ill, be home with a newborn during those crucial first few months, spend time with a dying family member, or heal from the trauma of sexual or intimate partner violence - And all without worrying about losing their paycheck. While to many, policies like Paid Family Medical Leave and Paid Safe Days seem like a basic human decency that we all deserve, the fight for such policies has been anything but easy.

Today's guest, Josephine Kalipeni is one of the leaders navigating this fight across the country. From a local organizer, to consulting, to executive level leadership, Josephine Kalipeni has been working in economic, racial, and gender justice policy and advocacy for more than 20 years. Born in Malawi and raised in the Midwest by immigrant parents, (and as the oldest of six children) Josie has personally navigated immigration, a bicultural identity, caregiving, and racism in Africa and North America. She initially worked in social work, where she witnessed systemic issues that drove her into progressive advocacy, particularly on issues of Medicaid, elder care, and caregiving. Josie is working to rethink traditional systems of work and leadership and ensure that everyone can give and receive care on their own terms.

In this conversation, Josie and I explore how policies that increase economic supports for families are deeply connected to sexual violence prevention. More than that, though- we really dive into the idea that this country has decided who is and is not deserving of dignity when it comes to rest and care, and what we can do to change that.

LINKS:
Don't Leave Your Friends Behind - Victoria Law and China Martens
The Need for Paid Safe Leave & Model Legislative Language
Emergent Strategy - Adrienne Marie Brown

Nuanced Narratives and False Accusations with Sarah Viren

Mon, 08 Jul 2024 11:00:00 -0600

In March of 2020, today's guest, Sarah Viren published a piece in the New York Times Magazine that left me seriously questioning some of my long-held beliefs about false accusations of sexual violence. It was an engrossing story that read like some kind of mystery or detective novel—except it was all true and had all happened to Sarah and her wife. And at the heart of it was this deeply nuanced conversation that I had never considered about false accusations being used to target the very people that laws like Title IX were created to protect.

From that piece came a podcast, and eventually a book that leaned into the complicated and very human narratives that can surround false accusations. In this episode, Sarah and I talk about why it was so important for her to tell her story, the larger implications of overly-simplified narratives, and how (like we often do over here at Both/And!) we can sit in the discomfort of many things being true at once.

Sarah Viren is a contributing writer for the New York Times Magazine and author of two books of nonfiction. Her essay collection Mine won the River Teeth Book Prize and was a finalist for a Lambda Literary Award. Her memoir To Name the Bigger Lie was a New York Times Editor's Choice and named a best book of the year by NPR and LitHub. A National Endowment for the Arts Fellow and a National Magazine Award finalist, Viren teaches in the creative writing program at Arizona State University. She lives in Tempe, Arizona with her partner, two kids and adorable rescue dog Oki.

LINKS:
Learn more about Sarah Viren!

To Name the Bigger Lie - A Memoir in Two Stories

The Inbox - Part of The 11th, a podcast series from Pineapple Street Studios

The Accusations Were Lies. But Could We Prove It? - Sarah’s New York Times Magazine piece

Language, Belonging, and Imposter Syndrome with Janae Sargent

Wed, 03 Jul 2024 15:00:00 -0600

Have you ever felt like you didn't belong in movement space because you didn't have all the "right" language? If so, you are very much not alone! In this episode, Janae Sargent and I moved through the idea that some of the language that can be so helpful in grant applications and public health spaces can also limit our ability to reach the communities we know should be centered, and become a barrier to talented and passionate people getting in and staying in prevention.

Janae Sargent (she/they) received Bachelor's Degrees in Journalism and Fine Arts from Pacific University, Oregon. After working in print and broadcast journalism for several years, she transitioned into the anti-violence field in 2018, as a community organizer and prevention practitioner. Her work has primarily included TGI justice, reproductive justice and community-level prevention. At VALOR, she coordinates the day-to-day activities of PreventConnect and advances policy initiatives through the Solis Policy Institute. When she is not working, Janae spends her time outside on the trails, snuggling her pup and illustrating.

LINKS:
The Revolution Will Not Be Funded

Measuring Love as Violence Prevention

Prevent Connect

ValorUS

Transforming Arts Education with Indi McCasey

Mon, 06 Nov 2023 09:00:00 -0700

Who told you you weren’t a good artist? That is the question that ended up driving today’s episode with Indi McCasey as we explored what transformative arts education can look like in the context of prevention.

Indi McCasey (they/them) is a facilitator and community catalyst who believes that creative learning experiences can generate a collective sense of purpose and belonging. They have spent the past 15 years working at the intersection of arts, education, and community health with non-profit organizations and school districts in Boston, Santa Fe, and the San Francisco Bay Area. As a Creative Education Consultant, Indi facilitates professional learning communities of local, national, and international educators, thought leaders, and organizations. They are a faculty member of Alameda County Office of Education's Integrated Learning Specialist Program and Harvard’s Project Zero Classroom.

LINKS:
Learn more about Indi's work

Destiny Arts Center

Flow: The Psychology of Optimal Experience - Mihály Csíkszentmihályi

Emergent Strategy - Adrienne Marie Brown

Harvard Graduate School of Education Project Zero- Making Learning Visible

Pt. 2! Restorative Justice with Anushah Jiwani and Ana Maria Hurtado

Sun, 13 Aug 2023 12:00:00 -0600

In part 2 of a conversation on restorative justice with Anushah Jiwani and Ana Maria Hurtado, we dug into some of the barriers to implementing restorative justice in the movement to end gender-based violence, reframed what success can look like in this context, and deepened my own understanding of the role shame plays in all of our lives (and especially when someone has caused harm).

Anushah Jiwani (she/they) is a Certified Professional Coach, community organizer, poet, and facilitator based in Albuquerque. As a Pakistani immigrant who grew up in the U.S., Anushah is passionate about serving communities and BIPOC individuals in their journey to self-discovery, decolonization, and liberation. More recently, Anushah has been leading presentations and sharing their own experience with restorative justice as a survivor of sexual assault. In fostering community care, Anushah has a coaching practice, called Morning Angel Coaching & Consulting, a safe space for folks to rebuild their relationship with self. Anushah writes poetry to preserve their language and cultural heritage, but also to process the ways in which white supremacy, assimilation, and capitalism have impacted their lineage and land. Anushah has a B.A. in English-Creative Writing and International Relations from Hendrix College.

Ana Maria Hurtado is a collaborator for restorative practices in Colombia through the Ahimsa Collective Born and raised in Colombia with a multicultural educational background, Ana Maria was introduced to Restorative Justice while she was completing her Master’s Degree on East and West Psychology at the California Institute of Integral Studies in San Francisco. Restorative Justice has added another layer of meaning to the work she does in the world and an opportunity to reconcile with paradox. She is also a SoulCollage® and Guided Imagery Facilitator and is committed to holding space for soul and spiritual inquiry. Ana Maria is also convinced humor is a key component to healing.

LINKS:
Learn more about The Ahimsa Collective
Miriame Kaba - We Do This 'Til We Free Us

Restorative Justice with Anushah Jiwani and Ana Maria Hurtado

Sat, 22 Jul 2023 16:00:00 -0600

In this 2-part episode, I spoke with Ana Maria Hurtado and Anushah Jiwani about the basics of Restorative Justice, some misconceptions I had going into this conversation, personal experiences as a participant and facilitator of a restorative justice process, and how growing restorative practices could impact our world in both deeply personal and systemic ways.

LINKS:
Learn more about The Ahimsa Collective
Miriame Kaba - We Do This 'Til We Free Us

Complicating How We Talk About Consent with Sarah Ferrato

Tue, 06 Jun 2023 08:00:00 -0600

In this episode, Jess Clark, Director of Prevention for the New Mexico Coalition of Sexual Assault Programs chats with Sarah Ferrato about moving conversations around consent from a deficit, risk-reduction model to one of pleasure, prevention, and maybe even liberation!

Sarah Ferrato (she/they) is the Manager of Sexual Violence Prevention and Public Health Initiatives at the Ohio Alliance to End Sexual Violence and has worked in the anti-violence movement professionally and unprofessionally for almost a decade. Their liberation philosophy is grounded in pleasure-centered community empowerment frameworks supported by imagination, mutual aid, and grassroots organizing. Sarah holds a Bachelor’s Degree in Art History with a focus on Women’s Studies from Kent State University and a certificate in Adolescent Sex Education Basics from Rutgers University. She co-parents four chaotic cats with her partner. They are a novice forager, community organizer, and impulsive book-buyer. And as a typical Libra, you will find scattered half-finished DIY projects throughout their Cleveland home.

Where you can find Sarah's work:
prevent sexual violence ✨ (@betheoneohio) • Instagram photos and videos

Blog | Ohio Alliance to End Sexual Violence

Prevention | Ohio Alliance to End Sexual Violence

https://oaesv.coalitionmanager.org/resourcemanager/resourcefilesummary

Roadmap to Prevention: Connecting Critical Race Theory and Anti-Oppression

Show notes:
Make Revolution Irresistible: The Role of the Cultural Worker in the Twenty-First Century

Afrosexology

Consent Wizardry

Indiana Disability Justice

Using Media to Navigate High Stakes Conversations with Kristin Russo

Thu, 20 Apr 2023 14:00:00 -0600

In this episode, Jess Clark, Director of Prevention for the New Mexico Coalition of Sexual Assault Programs, interviews Kristin Russo about how we can use media and pop culture to dig into issues that might otherwise be too hard for us to touch.

Kristin is a producer, speaker, and consultant with a focus on LGBTQ+ issues. She is co-creator of Everyone Is Gay & My Kid Is Gay, author of This is a Book for Parents of Gay Kids, and was host and producer of First Person, a video series on gender and sexuality.

In 2016, Kristin began working as Executive Producer and co-host of the now critically-acclaimed pop culture podcast, Buffering the Vampire Slayer.

Buffering: A Rewatch Adventure began in 2016 with Buffering the Vampire Slayer: an episodic rewatch of Buffy the Vampire Slayer, hosted by Jenny Owen Youngs (professional musician & recreational Whedonverse aficionado) and Kristin Russo (professional writer & former goth teen) — and now continues through some of the most iconic genre shows rooted in the 90s and 00s.

Buffering’s work has been named one of the top rewatch podcasts by the New York Times, Entertainment Weekly, Esquire, Time, and Paste Magazine! Not bad for two girls with a love of 90s nostalgia and patriarchy-smashing.

While this episode contains some mild spoilers for Buffy, you absolutely do not need to be a fan to enjoy this conversation, but maybe it’ll turn you into one!

Find out more about Kristin here!
Find out more about Buffering: A Rewatch Adventure here!

Anti-Black Racism in the Movement to End Gender-Based Violence with Darin Dorsey

Tue, 14 Mar 2023 18:00:00 -0600

In this episode, Jess Clark, Director of Sexual Violence Prevention for the New Mexico Coalition of Sexual Assault Programs, interviews Darin Dorsey. Darin leads Rooting Movements, a consulting firm dedicated to strengthening social and political movements by helping organizations connect with the history, values, and approaches of their respective movements. He holds expertise in violence prevention, policy advocacy, and organizational change management. And as you will hear in this conversation about anti-blackness in the movement to end gender-based violence, he’s especially passionate about holding organizations accountable to their missions and values.

You can learn more from Darin as the host of the National Sexual Violence Resource Center’s series on anti-blackness in the movement, which is linked in the show notes!

Links:
Learn more about Darin's consulting work!
Men’s work by Paul Kivel
Miriame Kaba talks about the history of the sexual violence movement and prison abolition on Chris Hayes
TAASA activity-based assessment
Caitlin Rosenthal Accounting for Slavery
1619 project
Loretta Ross Calling In course
Mother Jones article How the Mainstream Movement Against Gender-Based Violence Fails Black Workers and Survivors

Intro music: "Can't Get Enough Sunlight" written and recorded by Michelle Chamuel
Logo: Alex Ross-Reed
Produced by: Jess Clark
Edited By: Dacia Clay at Pillow Fort Studios

Creating Space in Chaos with Tamisha Williams

Wed, 25 Jan 2023 14:00:00 -0700

In this episode, Jess Clark, Director of Sexual Violence Prevention for the New Mexico Coalition of Sexual Assault Programs, interviews Tamisha Williams. This conversation began with the goal of talking about the joys and challenges of doing professional development and equity work in schools, but Tamisha is especially talented at taking you places you didn’t know you needed to go, and this conversation is no exception. If you are learning to lean into caring for yourself and others in the context of a world that demands more and more of us, this is for sure an episode for you.

Tamisha Williams is a dynamic facilitator, transformational coach, and equity practitioner with over 10 years of experience in the field of education. Through the use of visuals and storytelling, she inspires her clients to deepen their equity and racial-literacy skills. Tamisha focuses on wellness and curates affirming spaces for People of Color and LGBTQ+ community members.

You can learn more about Tamisha and her work here!

We would love to hear from you! You can submit questions, comments, or suggestions to jessc@nmcsap.org .

Links:
Elena Aguilar and co-author Lori Cohen offer seven habits―and a wealth of practical tools―that help you transform professional development.

Tamisha Williams From Within Workbook

Loretta Ross Calling In Series

Intro music: "Can't Get Enough Sunlight" written and recorded by Michelle Chamuel
Logo: Alex Ross-Reed
Produced by: Jess Clark
Edited By: Dacia Clay at Pillow Fort Studios

Troubling Trafficking with Adrienne Graf and Meg Panichelli

Wed, 23 Nov 2022 17:00:00 -0700

In this episode, Jess Clark, Director of Sexual Violence Prevention for the New Mexico Coalition of Sexual Assault Programs, interviews Adrienne Graf and Meg Panichelli about how the collapse of language around sex trafficking harms sex workers and sex trafficking survivors.

Adrienne Graf is a white femme lesbian with multiple chronic illnesses and disabilities living in Portland Oregon. She is a licensed clinical social worker and Assistant Professor of Practice at Portland State University. On Adrienne’s path to becoming a social worker, she was increasingly interested in and concerned about how both social workers and domestic and sexual violence organizations respond to, and intervened with sex workers and people who have been trafficked.

Dr. Meg Panichelli is an Assistant Professor in the College of Education and Social Work at West Chester University. Dr. Panichelli’s teaching and research are grounded in feminist approaches to social work, namely those that incorporate anti-carceral, queer, and intersectional theories of oppression. More specifically, she is interested in the role social workers play in the criminalization of already vulnerable communities.

We would love to hear from you! You can submit questions, comments, or suggestions to jessc@nmcsap.org .

Links:
You're Wrong About episode on Human Trafficking https://www.buzzsprout.com/1112270/3883928

Janie A. Chuang. (2014). EXPLOITATION CREEP AND THE UNMAKING OF HUMAN TRAFFICKING LAW. The American Journal of International Law, 108(4), 609–649.
https://www.iilj.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/ChuangIILJColloq2014.pdf

Agustin, L. (2007). Sex at the Margins Migration, Labour Markets and the Rescue Industry. Zed Books. https://doi.org/10.5305/amerjintelaw.108.4.0609

Burns, T. (2015). People in Alaska’s sex trade: Their lived experiences and policy recommendations. http://sextraffickingalaska.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/AKSWR.pdf

Bergquist, K. J. S. (2015). Criminal, victim, or ally? Examining the role of sex workers in addressing minor sex trafficking. Affilia: Journal of Women and Social Work, 30(3), 314–327. https://academicworks.cuny.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1161&context=jj_etds

Urban Justice Institute. (2007). The Danger of Conflating Trafficking with Sex Work: A Position Paper of the Sex Workers Project at the Urban Justice Center https://sexworkersproject.org/media-toolkit/downloads/20070330-BriefingPaperOnConflationOfTraffickingAndSexWork.pdf

Survived and Punished: End the Criminalization of Survival https://survivedandpunished.org/

Values-Centered Messaging with Adriann Barboa

Sat, 15 Oct 2022 09:00:00 -0600

In 2013, the voters of Albuquerque New Mexico defeated the nation's first ballot measure that attempted to limit abortions. This unexpected outcome was made possible by the messaging strategies used in the Respect ABQ (Albuquerque) Women campaign.

In this episode, Jess Clark, Director of Sexual Violence Prevention for the New Mexico Coalition of Sexual Assault Programs, interviews Adriann Barboa about how sexual violence prevention and reproductive justice intersect, the lessons we can learn from the Respect ABQ Women campaign, and how movements can broaden our coalitions to move forward together.

Adriann Barboa is a Bernalillo County Commissioner and the Policy Director for Strong Families, NM. She works with families and communities across the state of New Mexico to bring about culture shift strategies that recognize the many kinds of families across her home state, and create new policies centered in the lived experiences of everyday New Mexicans. Adriann brings over 15 years of experience in the direct service and social justice sectors, working primarily on issues of gender and reproductive justice, anti-violence, education, and youth and criminal justice in indigenous and communities of color. She is a new grandma and proud mother of two loving young adults that bring her so much joy and keep her grounded.

We would love to hear from you! You can submit questions, comments, or suggestions to jessc@nmcsap.org .

Links:
Jessica Valenti's piece "Sex isn't consent to pregnancy. Abortion, punishment & the anti-choice rapist mindset."
https://jessica.substack.com/p/sex-isnt-consent-to-pregnancy

Article on the Respect ABQ Women campaign
https://rewirenewsgroup.com/2014/02/25/respected-albuquerque-women-won-lessons-learned-albuquerque/

Strong Families NM/Forward Together road to Reproductive Justice
https://forwardtogether.org/tools/the-road-to-reproductive-justice/

Strong Families NM/Forward Together road to Reproductive Justice: Native Americans in NM
https://forwardtogether.org/tools/the-road-to-reproductive-justice-native-americans-in-new-mexico/

Strong Families NM/Forward Together Ending Gender-Based Violence in NM
https://forwardtogether.org/tools/a-path-forward-egbv/

Living our Frameworks with Mo Lewis

Mon, 01 Aug 2022 15:00:00 -0600

How we engage in sexual violence prevention is often framed by our own ways of looking at and moving through the world. But can we flip that perspective and use prevention frameworks to help us navigate our lives outside of our work?

In this episode, Jess Clark, Director of Sexual Violence Prevention for the New Mexico Coalition of Sexual Assault Programs interviews Mo Lewis, Prevention Coordinator for The National Sexual Violence Resource Center on risk and protective factors, new ways of looking at prevention tools, and how those tools intersect with anti-oppression efforts.

Mo Lewis is the Prevention Specialist for the National Sexual Violence Resource Center (NSVRC), providing training and technical assistance to state and territory sexual assault coalitions, departments of health, community programs, and other organizations working to develop and evaluate comprehensive sexual violence prevention strategies. In addition to sexual assault prevention, Mo has experience working in HIV prevention, youth empowerment within LGBTQ communities, sexual health promotion, and program evaluation. Mo is a co-author of the FLASH curriculum, a comprehensive sexual health education curriculum for middle and high school students, and co-founded a violence prevention coalition in King County, WA

We would love to hear from you! You can submit questions comments to jessc@nmcsap.org

Links:
Emergent Strategy by adrienne marie brown: https://www.akpress.org/emergentstrategy.html

Risk and Protective factor infographic: https://www.nsvrc.org/blogs/preventionista/introducing-risk-and-protective-factors-infographic

Risk and Protective factor interactive infographic (update coming soon!) (e-learning course: free account required): https://campus.nsvrc.org/course/view.php?id=125

The quote Mo couldn't remember! "If you want to build a ship, don't drum up people to collect wood and don't assign them tasks and work, but rather teach them to long for the endless immensity of the sea."
- Antoine de Saint Exupéry

The Power of Storytelling with Sasha taqwšəblu LaPointe

Fri, 03 Jun 2022 16:00:00 -0600

Storytelling is a powerful tool in Sexual Violence Prevention. Stories can help build empathy, give greater context to the concepts we are trying to teach, and increase engagement. However, without great intention, stories can also be harmful to the prevention educators telling them and our audiences.

In this episode, Jess Clark interviews Sasha taqwšəblu LaPointe, author of Red Paint - The Ancestral Autobiography of a Coast Salish Punk, on how writing about sexual trauma both broke and then healed her.

Sasha taqwšəblu LaPointe is from the Upper Skagit and Nooksack Indian Tribes. Native to the Pacific Northwest she draws inspiration from her coastal heritage as well as her life in the city. She writes with a focus on trauma and resilience, ranging topics from PTSD, sexual violence, the work her great grandmother did for the Lushootseed language revitalization, to loud basement punk shows and what it means to grow up mixed heritage. With strange obsessions revolving around Twin Peaks, the Seattle music scene, and Coast Salish Salmon Ceremonies, Sasha explores her own truth of indigenous identity in the Coast Salish territory. Sasha holds a double MFA from the Institute of American Indian Arts in creative nonfiction and poetry.

Her memoir Red Paint has received starred reviews from Kirkus and Shelf Awareness and was named “Best new book of the month,” by Time Magazine. Red Paint was featured on Nylon’s list of most anticipated books of 2022 and has received praise from Ms. Magazine, The LA Times, and Bust Magazine.

Sasha's book, Red Paint, is available through Counterpoint Press:
https://www.counterpointpress.com/dd-product/red-paint/

We would love to hear from you! You can submit questions or comments to jessc@nmcsap.org

The Monster Myth with Heather Imrie

Thu, 05 May 2022 15:00:00 -0600

Jess Clark, Director of Sexual Violence Prevention for the New Mexico Coalition of Sexual Assault Programs interviews Heather Imre, MEd.

Heather has over 20 years of experience in the Sexual Violence Prevention field and brings their brilliance to this conversation about how much they love prevention, Buffy the Vampire Slayer as an origin story, and how we in the anti-sexual violence movement talk about people who cause sexual harm.

Heather's consulting magic can be found at https://www.imrieconsulting.com/

We would love to hear from you! You can submit questions comments to jessc@nmcsap.org

Links:
http://www.generationfive.org/
https://www.catharsisproductions.com/resources/white-papers/
https://project-nia.org/
https://vawnet.org/material/american-perceptions-sexual-violence-frameworks-research-report
https://www.bgdblog.org/2013/12/calling-less-disposable-way-holding-accountable/
https://www.raliance.org/

If you want to hear more about Buffy and the Monster Myth, Jess was a recent guest on Buffering the Vampire Slayer which you can find here:
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/0-40-seeing-red-the-monster-myth/id1150241800?i=1000542955392