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  <description><![CDATA[<p>Asking tough questions about the science, technology, and politics of climate change, two climate researchers challenge leading experts on one of the defining issues of our age. Every two weeks, they explore how we can fight global warming by cutting greenhouse gas emissions, carbon removal, adaptation and solar geoengineering. Dr. Jesse Reynolds and Dr. Pete Irvine consider the roles of computer models and persuasive narratives, economics and public policy, and renewable energy and national security in the climate debate, and look beyond to issues such as biotechnology and international development.</p><p><a href="https://www.patreon.com/challengingclimate">Support us at Patreon.</a></p><p>Questions or comments? Email <a href="mailto:info@challengingclimate.org">info@challengingclimate.org</a> or tweet <a href="https://twitter.com/ChalClimate">@ChalClimate</a></p><p>See more information on <a href="https://jreynolds.org/">Jesse Reynolds</a> and <a href="https://www.ucl.ac.uk/earth-sciences/people/academic/dr-peter-irvine">Pete Irvine</a>.</p><p><a href="https://mailchi.mp/cb62b666e3c5/challenging-climate">Subscribe for email updates</a>.</p><p>music by Peter Danilchuk @clambgramb (IG/Twitter).</p>]]></description>
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    <itunes:title>Farewell</itunes:title>
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    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Pete and Jesse must bring Challenging Climate to a close. Since starting the podcast almost three years ago, we have each taken on more professional responsibilities and no longer have the time for this volunteer effort. In this short recording, we describe what we are now up to: The Degrees InitiativeThe Degrees Global Forum on SRMSRM360Climate Reflections, the SRM360 podcast - coming soon to all major podcast platformsCo-CREATEWe also sincerely thank Gillian Cheong, our producer; our guests...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p>Pete and Jesse must bring <em>Challenging Climate </em>to a close. Since starting the podcast almost three years ago, we have each taken on more professional responsibilities and no longer have the time for this volunteer effort. In this short recording, we describe what we are now up to:</p><ul><li><a href='https://www.degrees.ngo/'>The Degrees Initiative</a></li><li><a href='https://degreesglobalforum.org/'>The Degrees Global Forum on SRM</a></li><li><a href='https://www.srm360.org/'>SRM360</a></li><li>Climate Reflections, the SRM360 podcast - coming soon to all major podcast platforms</li><li><a href='https://co-create-project.eu/'>Co-CREATE</a></li></ul><p>We also sincerely thank Gillian Cheong, our producer; our guests; our listeners, especially those who supported us via Patreon; and each other.</p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/challengingclimate">Support the show</a></p><p><a href='https://mailchi.mp/cb62b666e3c5/challenging-climate'>Subscribe for email updates</a></p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pete and Jesse must bring <em>Challenging Climate </em>to a close. Since starting the podcast almost three years ago, we have each taken on more professional responsibilities and no longer have the time for this volunteer effort. In this short recording, we describe what we are now up to:</p><ul><li><a href='https://www.degrees.ngo/'>The Degrees Initiative</a></li><li><a href='https://degreesglobalforum.org/'>The Degrees Global Forum on SRM</a></li><li><a href='https://www.srm360.org/'>SRM360</a></li><li>Climate Reflections, the SRM360 podcast - coming soon to all major podcast platforms</li><li><a href='https://co-create-project.eu/'>Co-CREATE</a></li></ul><p>We also sincerely thank Gillian Cheong, our producer; our guests; our listeners, especially those who supported us via Patreon; and each other.</p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/challengingclimate">Support the show</a></p><p><a href='https://mailchi.mp/cb62b666e3c5/challenging-climate'>Subscribe for email updates</a></p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <itunes:title>50. Maarten Albers on the Nitrogen Crisis in the Netherlands</itunes:title>
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    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Our guest is Maarten Albers, a journalist who reports on agriculture and food for the Volkskrant, one of the Netherlands’ leading newspapers. In today's episode, we draw our attention to the 'nitrogen crisis' in the Netherlands - a major environmental story that has reshaped politics in the Netherlands and societal views on environmental regulation, science and technology, and even international relations.  Listen as we discuss why we should care about nitrogen in the environment, and what le...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p>Our guest is Maarten Albers, a journalist who reports on agriculture and food for the Volkskrant, one of the Netherlands’ leading newspapers. In today&apos;s episode, we draw our attention to the &apos;nitrogen crisis&apos; in the Netherlands - a major environmental story that has reshaped politics in the Netherlands and societal views on environmental regulation, science and technology, and even international relations.<br/><br/>Listen as we discuss why we should care about nitrogen in the environment, and what lessons we can draw from the nitrogen crisis happening in the Netherlands. <br/><br/>Links:</p><ul><li><a href='https://www.volkskrant.nl/auteur/maarten-albers'>Maarten&apos;s articles</a> on de Volkskrant</li><li><a href='https://www.volkskrant.nl/economie/tijdens-de-formatie-komt-het-stikstofprobleem-levensgroot-terug~b90935ef/'>Interview on the nitrogen crisis</a>, with Jan Douwe van der Ploeg, emeritus professor of agricultural sociology</li><li>Check out <a href='https://www.volkskrant.nl/economie/ook-een-bioboer-kan-een-piekbelaster-zijn-dat-was-wel-even-slikken-we-dachten-daarbij-altijd-aan-heel-intensieve-boeren~b5a477a1/'>this article</a> on &apos;An organic farmer can also be a peak polluter&apos;</li></ul><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/challengingclimate">Support the show</a></p><p><a href='https://mailchi.mp/cb62b666e3c5/challenging-climate'>Subscribe for email updates</a></p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Our guest is Maarten Albers, a journalist who reports on agriculture and food for the Volkskrant, one of the Netherlands’ leading newspapers. In today&apos;s episode, we draw our attention to the &apos;nitrogen crisis&apos; in the Netherlands - a major environmental story that has reshaped politics in the Netherlands and societal views on environmental regulation, science and technology, and even international relations.<br/><br/>Listen as we discuss why we should care about nitrogen in the environment, and what lessons we can draw from the nitrogen crisis happening in the Netherlands. <br/><br/>Links:</p><ul><li><a href='https://www.volkskrant.nl/auteur/maarten-albers'>Maarten&apos;s articles</a> on de Volkskrant</li><li><a href='https://www.volkskrant.nl/economie/tijdens-de-formatie-komt-het-stikstofprobleem-levensgroot-terug~b90935ef/'>Interview on the nitrogen crisis</a>, with Jan Douwe van der Ploeg, emeritus professor of agricultural sociology</li><li>Check out <a href='https://www.volkskrant.nl/economie/ook-een-bioboer-kan-een-piekbelaster-zijn-dat-was-wel-even-slikken-we-dachten-daarbij-altijd-aan-heel-intensieve-boeren~b5a477a1/'>this article</a> on &apos;An organic farmer can also be a peak polluter&apos;</li></ul><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/challengingclimate">Support the show</a></p><p><a href='https://mailchi.mp/cb62b666e3c5/challenging-climate'>Subscribe for email updates</a></p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Our guest is Gwynne Dyer, an author, columnist, broadcaster and lecturer on international affairs. In this episode, we discuss the key messages from his new book Intervention Earth: Life-Saving Ideas from the World’s Climate Engineers, based on extensive interviews with the world’s top climate scientists. We discuss his insights from these interviews on the state of our climate, and address controversies and concerns over carbon dioxide removal (CDR) and solar radiation management (SRM).  Lin...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p>Our guest is Gwynne Dyer, an author, columnist, broadcaster and lecturer on international affairs. In this episode, we discuss the key messages from his new book <em>Intervention Earth: Life-Saving Ideas from the World’s Climate Engineers</em>, based on extensive interviews with the world’s top climate scientists. We discuss his insights from these interviews on the state of our climate, and address controversies and concerns over carbon dioxide removal (CDR) and solar radiation management (SRM).<br/><br/>Links:</p><ul><li>Gwynne Dyer’s <a href='https://gwynnedyer.com/'>profile</a></li><li>Check out his new book, <a href='https://gwynnedyer.com/books/'><em>Intervention Earth: Life-Saving Ideas</em></a></li><li>Check out this survey: <a href='https://www.theguardian.com/environment/article/2024/may/08/world-scientists-climate-failure-survey-global-temperature'>World’s top climate scientists expect global heating to blast past 1.5C target</a></li></ul><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/challengingclimate">Support the show</a></p><p><a href='https://mailchi.mp/cb62b666e3c5/challenging-climate'>Subscribe for email updates</a></p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Our guest is Gwynne Dyer, an author, columnist, broadcaster and lecturer on international affairs. In this episode, we discuss the key messages from his new book <em>Intervention Earth: Life-Saving Ideas from the World’s Climate Engineers</em>, based on extensive interviews with the world’s top climate scientists. We discuss his insights from these interviews on the state of our climate, and address controversies and concerns over carbon dioxide removal (CDR) and solar radiation management (SRM).<br/><br/>Links:</p><ul><li>Gwynne Dyer’s <a href='https://gwynnedyer.com/'>profile</a></li><li>Check out his new book, <a href='https://gwynnedyer.com/books/'><em>Intervention Earth: Life-Saving Ideas</em></a></li><li>Check out this survey: <a href='https://www.theguardian.com/environment/article/2024/may/08/world-scientists-climate-failure-survey-global-temperature'>World’s top climate scientists expect global heating to blast past 1.5C target</a></li></ul><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/challengingclimate">Support the show</a></p><p><a href='https://mailchi.mp/cb62b666e3c5/challenging-climate'>Subscribe for email updates</a></p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <itunes:title>48. Jonathan Blake and Nils Gilman on planetary governance</itunes:title>
    <title>48. Jonathan Blake and Nils Gilman on planetary governance</title>
    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Jonathan Blake is Associate Director at the Berggruen Institute, where he leads the Planetary Program. Nils Gilman is Senior Vice President at the Berggruen Institute and Deputy Editor of Noema magazine. In this episode, we discuss the ideas in their recently published book, Children of a Modest Star: Planetary Thinking for an Age of Crises. We grapple with ideas of sovereignty, planetary governance and subsidiarity.   Links: Jonathan Blake’s profileNils Gilman’s profileCheck out their book, ...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p>Jonathan Blake is Associate Director at the Berggruen Institute, where he leads the Planetary Program. Nils Gilman is Senior Vice President at the Berggruen Institute and Deputy Editor of Noema magazine. In this episode, we discuss the ideas in their recently published book, <em>Children of a Modest Star: Planetary Thinking for an Age of Crises</em>. We grapple with ideas of sovereignty, planetary governance and subsidiarity.<br/><br/></p><p>Links:</p><ul><li>Jonathan Blake’s <a href='https://berggruen.org/people/jonathan-blake'>profile</a></li><li>Nils Gilman’s <a href='https://berggruen.org/people/nils-gilman'>profile</a></li><li>Check out their book, <a href='https://www.sup.org/books/title/?id=37259'>Children of a Modest Star: Planetary Thinking for an Age of Crises</a></li></ul><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/challengingclimate">Support the show</a></p><p><a href='https://mailchi.mp/cb62b666e3c5/challenging-climate'>Subscribe for email updates</a></p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jonathan Blake is Associate Director at the Berggruen Institute, where he leads the Planetary Program. Nils Gilman is Senior Vice President at the Berggruen Institute and Deputy Editor of Noema magazine. In this episode, we discuss the ideas in their recently published book, <em>Children of a Modest Star: Planetary Thinking for an Age of Crises</em>. We grapple with ideas of sovereignty, planetary governance and subsidiarity.<br/><br/></p><p>Links:</p><ul><li>Jonathan Blake’s <a href='https://berggruen.org/people/jonathan-blake'>profile</a></li><li>Nils Gilman’s <a href='https://berggruen.org/people/nils-gilman'>profile</a></li><li>Check out their book, <a href='https://www.sup.org/books/title/?id=37259'>Children of a Modest Star: Planetary Thinking for an Age of Crises</a></li></ul><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/challengingclimate">Support the show</a></p><p><a href='https://mailchi.mp/cb62b666e3c5/challenging-climate'>Subscribe for email updates</a></p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <itunes:title>47. Shuchi Talati on ethics and governance of solar geoengineering</itunes:title>
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    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Today’s guest is Dr. Shuchi Talati, a climate technology and governance expert and the founder of The Alliance for Just Deliberation on Solar Geoengineering. In this episode, we discuss ethics and governance of solar geoengineering, the formal cancellation of Harvard’s SCoPEx experiment, and the UN Environment Assembly deliberations on Solar Radiation Modification.  Links: Shuchi Talati’s profileThe Alliance for Just Deliberation on Solar GeoengineeringCheck out this paper, Who Are the Engine...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p>Today’s guest is Dr. Shuchi Talati, a climate technology and governance expert and the founder of The Alliance for Just Deliberation on Solar Geoengineering. In this episode, we discuss ethics and governance of solar geoengineering, the formal cancellation of Harvard’s SCoPEx experiment, and the UN Environment Assembly deliberations on Solar Radiation Modification.<br/><br/>Links:</p><ul><li>Shuchi Talati’s <a href='https://sgdeliberation.org/about/team/'>profile</a></li><li><a href='https://sgdeliberation.org/'>The Alliance for Just Deliberation on Solar Geoengineering</a></li><li>Check out <a href='https://direct.mit.edu/glep/article/22/1/12/106768/Who-Are-the-Engineers-Solar-Geoengineering'>this paper</a>, Who Are the Engineers? Solar Geoengineering Research and Justice</li></ul><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/challengingclimate">Support the show</a></p><p><a href='https://mailchi.mp/cb62b666e3c5/challenging-climate'>Subscribe for email updates</a></p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Today’s guest is Dr. Shuchi Talati, a climate technology and governance expert and the founder of The Alliance for Just Deliberation on Solar Geoengineering. In this episode, we discuss ethics and governance of solar geoengineering, the formal cancellation of Harvard’s SCoPEx experiment, and the UN Environment Assembly deliberations on Solar Radiation Modification.<br/><br/>Links:</p><ul><li>Shuchi Talati’s <a href='https://sgdeliberation.org/about/team/'>profile</a></li><li><a href='https://sgdeliberation.org/'>The Alliance for Just Deliberation on Solar Geoengineering</a></li><li>Check out <a href='https://direct.mit.edu/glep/article/22/1/12/106768/Who-Are-the-Engineers-Solar-Geoengineering'>this paper</a>, Who Are the Engineers? Solar Geoengineering Research and Justice</li></ul><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/challengingclimate">Support the show</a></p><p><a href='https://mailchi.mp/cb62b666e3c5/challenging-climate'>Subscribe for email updates</a></p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Today’s guest is Ulrike Lohmann, Professor of Experimental Atmospheric Physics in the Institute for Atmospheric and Climate Science at ETH Zurich. Lohmann is also the Principal Investigator of the CLOUDLAB project, a multi-year project to investigate aerosol-cloud interactions in wintertime stratus clouds over the Alps.   In this episode, we discuss the role of clouds and aerosols in our climate. We dive deep into aerosol-cloud interactions to uncover the science behind solar radiation m...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p>Today’s guest is Ulrike Lohmann, Professor of Experimental Atmospheric Physics in the Institute for Atmospheric and Climate Science at ETH Zurich. Lohmann is also the Principal Investigator of the CLOUDLAB project, a multi-year project to investigate aerosol-cloud interactions in wintertime stratus clouds over the Alps. <br/><br/>In this episode, we discuss the role of clouds and aerosols in our climate. We dive deep into aerosol-cloud interactions to uncover the science behind solar radiation modification (SRM) techniques like marine cloud brightening, and discuss a novel proposed SRM technique - Mixed Phase Cloud Thinning.<br/><br/>Links:</p><ul><li>Ulrike Lohmann’s <a href='https://usys.ethz.ch/en/people/profile.ulrike-lohmann.html'>profile</a></li><li>Check out <a href='https://cloudlab.ethz.ch/the-project.html'>the CLOUDLAB project</a></li></ul><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/challengingclimate">Support the show</a></p><p><a href='https://mailchi.mp/cb62b666e3c5/challenging-climate'>Subscribe for email updates</a></p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Today’s guest is Ulrike Lohmann, Professor of Experimental Atmospheric Physics in the Institute for Atmospheric and Climate Science at ETH Zurich. Lohmann is also the Principal Investigator of the CLOUDLAB project, a multi-year project to investigate aerosol-cloud interactions in wintertime stratus clouds over the Alps. <br/><br/>In this episode, we discuss the role of clouds and aerosols in our climate. We dive deep into aerosol-cloud interactions to uncover the science behind solar radiation modification (SRM) techniques like marine cloud brightening, and discuss a novel proposed SRM technique - Mixed Phase Cloud Thinning.<br/><br/>Links:</p><ul><li>Ulrike Lohmann’s <a href='https://usys.ethz.ch/en/people/profile.ulrike-lohmann.html'>profile</a></li><li>Check out <a href='https://cloudlab.ethz.ch/the-project.html'>the CLOUDLAB project</a></li></ul><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/challengingclimate">Support the show</a></p><p><a href='https://mailchi.mp/cb62b666e3c5/challenging-climate'>Subscribe for email updates</a></p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <itunes:title>45. Benjamin Sovacool and Chad Baum on global trends in public perceptions of climate technologies</itunes:title>
    <title>45. Benjamin Sovacool and Chad Baum on global trends in public perceptions of climate technologies</title>
    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[In this episode, we speak with Dr. Benjamin Sovacool and Dr. Chad Baum, about their newly published, high-impact paper, “Public Perceptions and Support of Climate Intervention Technologies across the Global North and Global South”. Join us as we discuss the key findings of their work, and how these findings can and should influence policy and governance methods.  Dr. Benjamin Sovacool is a professor with affiliations at Aarhus University, the University of Sussex and Boston University.  ...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we speak with Dr. Benjamin Sovacool and Dr. Chad Baum, about their newly published, high-impact paper, “Public Perceptions and Support of Climate Intervention Technologies across the Global North and Global South”. Join us as we discuss the key findings of their work, and how these findings can and should influence policy and governance methods.<br/><br/>Dr. Benjamin Sovacool is a professor with affiliations at Aarhus University, the University of Sussex and Boston University.  Dr. Chad Baum is Assistant Professor at the Department of Business Development and Technology of Aarhus University.<br/><br/>Links:</p><ul><li>Ben Sovacool’s <a href='https://profiles.sussex.ac.uk/p373957-benjamin-sovacool'>profile</a></li><li>Chad Baum’s <a href='https://www.au.dk/en/show/person/cmbaum@btech.au.dk'>profile</a></li><li>The <a href='https://genie-erc.github.io/'>GENIE</a> project</li><li>Their Nature paper, <a href='https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-024-46341-5?utm_campaign=related_content&amp;utm_source=HEALTH&amp;utm_medium=communities'>Public Perceptions and Support of Climate Intervention Technologies across the Global North and Global South</a> and <a href='https://communities.springernature.com/posts/public-perceptions-and-support-of-climate-intervention-technologies-across-the-global-north-and-global-south'>accessible summary</a></li><li>Check out their paper on <a href='https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0959378023001310'>sentiments and emotions of climate tech on Twitter </a></li><li>And another one on <a href='https://www.researchgate.net/publication/359610666_Taking_it_outside_Exploring_social_opposition_to_21_early-stage_experiments_in_radical_climate_interventions'>field testing radical climate interventions</a>, </li><li>And another one on <a href='https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0921800922003093'>co-impacts</a></li><li>Also check out our related episode with <a href='https://www.challengingclimate.org/1873533/12000987-27-luke-iseman-on-his-for-profit-solar-geoengineering-venture-make-sunsets'>Luke Iseman</a> on Make Sunsets</li></ul><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/challengingclimate">Support the show</a></p><p><a href='https://mailchi.mp/cb62b666e3c5/challenging-climate'>Subscribe for email updates</a></p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we speak with Dr. Benjamin Sovacool and Dr. Chad Baum, about their newly published, high-impact paper, “Public Perceptions and Support of Climate Intervention Technologies across the Global North and Global South”. Join us as we discuss the key findings of their work, and how these findings can and should influence policy and governance methods.<br/><br/>Dr. Benjamin Sovacool is a professor with affiliations at Aarhus University, the University of Sussex and Boston University.  Dr. Chad Baum is Assistant Professor at the Department of Business Development and Technology of Aarhus University.<br/><br/>Links:</p><ul><li>Ben Sovacool’s <a href='https://profiles.sussex.ac.uk/p373957-benjamin-sovacool'>profile</a></li><li>Chad Baum’s <a href='https://www.au.dk/en/show/person/cmbaum@btech.au.dk'>profile</a></li><li>The <a href='https://genie-erc.github.io/'>GENIE</a> project</li><li>Their Nature paper, <a href='https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-024-46341-5?utm_campaign=related_content&amp;utm_source=HEALTH&amp;utm_medium=communities'>Public Perceptions and Support of Climate Intervention Technologies across the Global North and Global South</a> and <a href='https://communities.springernature.com/posts/public-perceptions-and-support-of-climate-intervention-technologies-across-the-global-north-and-global-south'>accessible summary</a></li><li>Check out their paper on <a href='https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0959378023001310'>sentiments and emotions of climate tech on Twitter </a></li><li>And another one on <a href='https://www.researchgate.net/publication/359610666_Taking_it_outside_Exploring_social_opposition_to_21_early-stage_experiments_in_radical_climate_interventions'>field testing radical climate interventions</a>, </li><li>And another one on <a href='https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0921800922003093'>co-impacts</a></li><li>Also check out our related episode with <a href='https://www.challengingclimate.org/1873533/12000987-27-luke-iseman-on-his-for-profit-solar-geoengineering-venture-make-sunsets'>Luke Iseman</a> on Make Sunsets</li></ul><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/challengingclimate">Support the show</a></p><p><a href='https://mailchi.mp/cb62b666e3c5/challenging-climate'>Subscribe for email updates</a></p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <itunes:title>44. George Monbiot on environmentalism and climate activism</itunes:title>
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    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[George Monbiot is a renowned British author, The Guardian Columnist and environmental activist. George is the author of more than a dozen books, the most recent of which is Regenesis: Feeding the World without Devouring the Planet, and he was awarded the Orwell Prize for Journalism in 2022.  In this episode, we discuss topics of his insightful and provocative articles such as de-throning GDP, radical climate activism, the ‘wealth curse’ and contentious technologies such as nuclear energy...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p>George Monbiot is a renowned British author, The Guardian Columnist and environmental activist. George is the author of more than a dozen books, the most recent of which is <em>Regenesis: Feeding the World without Devouring the Planet</em>, and he was awarded the Orwell Prize for Journalism in 2022. </p><p>In this episode, we discuss topics of his insightful and provocative articles such as de-throning GDP, radical climate activism, the ‘wealth curse’ and contentious technologies such as nuclear energy, GMO and SRM.<br/><br/>Links:</p><ul><li>George Monbiot&apos;s <a href='https://www.monbiot.com/about/'>profile</a></li><li>Monbiot&apos;s article, <a href='https://www.monbiot.com/2023/10/04/the-cruel-fantasies-of-well-fed-people/'>The Cruel Fantasies of Well-Fed People</a></li><li>Monbiot&apos;s most recent book, <a href='https://www.penguin.co.uk/books/317018/regenesis-by-monbiot-george/9780141992990'>Regenesis</a></li></ul><p>Related articles by Monbiot:</p><ul><li>On the extreme wealthy, <a href='https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/nov/29/cop28-billionaires-blocking-action-save-planet-protest'>Here’s a question Cop28 won’t address: why are billionaires blocking action to save the planet?</a></li><li>On climate and politics, <a href='https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/jun/15/hard-right-climate-catastrophe-extreme-weather-refugees'>The hard right and climate catastrophe are intimately linked. This is how</a></li><li>On <a href='https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/mar/29/uk-green-day-fossil-fuel-dirty-money-sunak-renewables'>UK climate politics</a></li><li>On <a href='https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/apr/28/saboteurs-how-to-blow-up-a-pipeline-climate-crisis-direct-action'>radical climate activism</a> (and <a href='https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/feb/22/climate-activist-criminals-heroes-truth'>another one</a>)</li></ul><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/challengingclimate">Support the show</a></p><p><a href='https://mailchi.mp/cb62b666e3c5/challenging-climate'>Subscribe for email updates</a></p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>George Monbiot is a renowned British author, The Guardian Columnist and environmental activist. George is the author of more than a dozen books, the most recent of which is <em>Regenesis: Feeding the World without Devouring the Planet</em>, and he was awarded the Orwell Prize for Journalism in 2022. </p><p>In this episode, we discuss topics of his insightful and provocative articles such as de-throning GDP, radical climate activism, the ‘wealth curse’ and contentious technologies such as nuclear energy, GMO and SRM.<br/><br/>Links:</p><ul><li>George Monbiot&apos;s <a href='https://www.monbiot.com/about/'>profile</a></li><li>Monbiot&apos;s article, <a href='https://www.monbiot.com/2023/10/04/the-cruel-fantasies-of-well-fed-people/'>The Cruel Fantasies of Well-Fed People</a></li><li>Monbiot&apos;s most recent book, <a href='https://www.penguin.co.uk/books/317018/regenesis-by-monbiot-george/9780141992990'>Regenesis</a></li></ul><p>Related articles by Monbiot:</p><ul><li>On the extreme wealthy, <a href='https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/nov/29/cop28-billionaires-blocking-action-save-planet-protest'>Here’s a question Cop28 won’t address: why are billionaires blocking action to save the planet?</a></li><li>On climate and politics, <a href='https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/jun/15/hard-right-climate-catastrophe-extreme-weather-refugees'>The hard right and climate catastrophe are intimately linked. This is how</a></li><li>On <a href='https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/mar/29/uk-green-day-fossil-fuel-dirty-money-sunak-renewables'>UK climate politics</a></li><li>On <a href='https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/apr/28/saboteurs-how-to-blow-up-a-pipeline-climate-crisis-direct-action'>radical climate activism</a> (and <a href='https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/feb/22/climate-activist-criminals-heroes-truth'>another one</a>)</li></ul><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/challengingclimate">Support the show</a></p><p><a href='https://mailchi.mp/cb62b666e3c5/challenging-climate'>Subscribe for email updates</a></p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <itunes:title>43. Janos Pasztor on global climate policy and geoengineering</itunes:title>
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    <description><![CDATA[<p>This episode’s guest is Janos Pasztor. He has four decades of work experience in the areas of energy, environment, climate change, and sustainable development, including roles as Executive Director of the Carnegie Climate Governance Initiative (C2G) and UN Assistant Secretary-General for Climate Change. <br/><br/>In this episode, we explore the political lens of carbon dioxide removal (CDR) and solar radiation management (SRM), discussing the progress of CDR and SRM discourse, as well as its challenges and controversies.<br/><br/>CORRECTION: Jesse suggested that the United Nations Environment Assembly (UNEA) had a dozen or so members, but Janos pointed out that in fact it has universal membership, i.e., every UN member state is a member.</p><p>Links:</p><ul><li><a href='https://www.carnegiecouncil.org/people/janos-pasztor'>Janos Pasztor’s profile</a></li><li><a href='https://www.c2g2.net/'>Carnegie Climate Governance Initiative</a></li><li>Janos’ article on <a href='https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/1758-5899.12345'>the role of UN Secretary-General in Climate Change</a>, in Global Policy 2016<b> </b></li></ul><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/challengingclimate">Support the show</a></p><p><a href='https://mailchi.mp/cb62b666e3c5/challenging-climate'>Subscribe for email updates</a></p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This episode’s guest is Janos Pasztor. He has four decades of work experience in the areas of energy, environment, climate change, and sustainable development, including roles as Executive Director of the Carnegie Climate Governance Initiative (C2G) and UN Assistant Secretary-General for Climate Change. <br/><br/>In this episode, we explore the political lens of carbon dioxide removal (CDR) and solar radiation management (SRM), discussing the progress of CDR and SRM discourse, as well as its challenges and controversies.<br/><br/>CORRECTION: Jesse suggested that the United Nations Environment Assembly (UNEA) had a dozen or so members, but Janos pointed out that in fact it has universal membership, i.e., every UN member state is a member.</p><p>Links:</p><ul><li><a href='https://www.carnegiecouncil.org/people/janos-pasztor'>Janos Pasztor’s profile</a></li><li><a href='https://www.c2g2.net/'>Carnegie Climate Governance Initiative</a></li><li>Janos’ article on <a href='https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/1758-5899.12345'>the role of UN Secretary-General in Climate Change</a>, in Global Policy 2016<b> </b></li></ul><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/challengingclimate">Support the show</a></p><p><a href='https://mailchi.mp/cb62b666e3c5/challenging-climate'>Subscribe for email updates</a></p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <itunes:title>42. David Stainforth on climate models and uncertainty</itunes:title>
    <title>42. David Stainforth on climate models and uncertainty</title>
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    <description><![CDATA[<p>David Stainforth is a Professorial Research Fellow at the London School of Economics. David has had a long career studying the climate problem and the challenges of making predictions of future climate change. His research spans the philosophy of climate science, climate economics, climate modelling, and decision-making under deep uncertainty.</p><p>In this episode, we discuss David’s new book ‘<em>Predicting our climate future</em>’, exploring the challenges of making predictions about future climate change, and navigating this uncertainty to address climate problems.<br/><br/>Links:</p><ul><li><a href='https://www.lse.ac.uk/granthaminstitute/profile/david-stainforth/'>David Stainforth’s profile</a></li><li>David’s book, <a href='https://global.oup.com/academic/product/predicting-our-climate-future-9780198812937?cc=us&amp;lang=en&amp;'>Predicting our climate future</a></li></ul><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/challengingclimate">Support the show</a></p><p><a href='https://mailchi.mp/cb62b666e3c5/challenging-climate'>Subscribe for email updates</a></p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David Stainforth is a Professorial Research Fellow at the London School of Economics. David has had a long career studying the climate problem and the challenges of making predictions of future climate change. His research spans the philosophy of climate science, climate economics, climate modelling, and decision-making under deep uncertainty.</p><p>In this episode, we discuss David’s new book ‘<em>Predicting our climate future</em>’, exploring the challenges of making predictions about future climate change, and navigating this uncertainty to address climate problems.<br/><br/>Links:</p><ul><li><a href='https://www.lse.ac.uk/granthaminstitute/profile/david-stainforth/'>David Stainforth’s profile</a></li><li>David’s book, <a href='https://global.oup.com/academic/product/predicting-our-climate-future-9780198812937?cc=us&amp;lang=en&amp;'>Predicting our climate future</a></li></ul><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/challengingclimate">Support the show</a></p><p><a href='https://mailchi.mp/cb62b666e3c5/challenging-climate'>Subscribe for email updates</a></p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <itunes:title>41. David Keith on Climate Systems Engineering</itunes:title>
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    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[David Keith is a Professor in the Department of Geophysical Sciences at the University of Chicago and the Founding Faculty Director of the Climate Systems Engineering initiative. Keith previously led the development of Harvard’s Solar Geoengineering Research Program.  In this episode, we discuss Keith’s Climate Systems Engineering initiatives, carbon dioxide removal (CDR) and geoengineering techniques. Drawing on David’s decades of expertise, we dive deep into topics such as CDR, solar geoeng...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p>David Keith is a Professor in the Department of Geophysical Sciences at the University of Chicago and the Founding Faculty Director of the Climate Systems Engineering initiative. Keith previously led the development of Harvard’s Solar Geoengineering Research Program.<br/><br/>In this episode, we discuss Keith’s Climate Systems Engineering initiatives, carbon dioxide removal (CDR) and geoengineering techniques. Drawing on David’s decades of expertise, we dive deep into topics such as CDR, solar geoengineering, ice sheet geoengineering.<br/><br/>Links:</p><ul><li><a href='https://geosci.uchicago.edu/people/david-keith/'>David Keith’s profile</a> (&amp; <a href='https://keith.seas.harvard.edu/people/david-keith'>old profile</a>)</li><li>The <a href='https://news.uchicago.edu/story/david-keith-joins-university-chicago-lead-climate-systems-engineering-initiative'>Climate Systems Engineering initiative</a></li></ul><p><br/></p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/challengingclimate">Support the show</a></p><p><a href='https://mailchi.mp/cb62b666e3c5/challenging-climate'>Subscribe for email updates</a></p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David Keith is a Professor in the Department of Geophysical Sciences at the University of Chicago and the Founding Faculty Director of the Climate Systems Engineering initiative. Keith previously led the development of Harvard’s Solar Geoengineering Research Program.<br/><br/>In this episode, we discuss Keith’s Climate Systems Engineering initiatives, carbon dioxide removal (CDR) and geoengineering techniques. Drawing on David’s decades of expertise, we dive deep into topics such as CDR, solar geoengineering, ice sheet geoengineering.<br/><br/>Links:</p><ul><li><a href='https://geosci.uchicago.edu/people/david-keith/'>David Keith’s profile</a> (&amp; <a href='https://keith.seas.harvard.edu/people/david-keith'>old profile</a>)</li><li>The <a href='https://news.uchicago.edu/story/david-keith-joins-university-chicago-lead-climate-systems-engineering-initiative'>Climate Systems Engineering initiative</a></li></ul><p><br/></p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/challengingclimate">Support the show</a></p><p><a href='https://mailchi.mp/cb62b666e3c5/challenging-climate'>Subscribe for email updates</a></p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <itunes:title>40. Jennifer Allan on global climate governance and the COP28 agenda</itunes:title>
    <title>40. Jennifer Allan on global climate governance and the COP28 agenda</title>
    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Jennifer Allan is a Strategic Adviser and Team Leader with Earth Negotiations Bulletin, and Lecturer at Cardiff University. Jen has attended roughly 40 UN conferences where states negotiate the rules of global climate governance. Her work explores how global rules are made and remade, and currently focuses on the politics of ecosystem services and green recovery. In this episode, we discuss with Jen key agenda themes in the forthcoming COP28, the social inequality of climate change and whethe...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p>Jennifer Allan is a Strategic Adviser and Team Leader with Earth Negotiations Bulletin, and Lecturer at Cardiff University. Jen has attended roughly 40 UN conferences where states negotiate the rules of global climate governance. Her work explores how global rules are made and remade, and currently focuses on the politics of ecosystem services and green recovery. In this episode, we discuss with Jen key agenda themes in the forthcoming COP28, the social inequality of climate change and whether COPs deliver useful outcomes - or is it just fanfare?</p><p>Links:</p><ul><li><a href='https://enb.iisd.org/people/jennifer-allan-dr'>Jennifer Allan’s profile</a></li><li>COP28 <a href='https://www.cop28.com/thematic-program'>Thematic Program</a></li><li>IEA World Energy Outlook 2023 - <a href='https://www.iea.org/reports/world-energy-outlook-2023'>Oil demand to peak by 2030</a> </li></ul><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/challengingclimate">Support the show</a></p><p><a href='https://mailchi.mp/cb62b666e3c5/challenging-climate'>Subscribe for email updates</a></p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jennifer Allan is a Strategic Adviser and Team Leader with Earth Negotiations Bulletin, and Lecturer at Cardiff University. Jen has attended roughly 40 UN conferences where states negotiate the rules of global climate governance. Her work explores how global rules are made and remade, and currently focuses on the politics of ecosystem services and green recovery. In this episode, we discuss with Jen key agenda themes in the forthcoming COP28, the social inequality of climate change and whether COPs deliver useful outcomes - or is it just fanfare?</p><p>Links:</p><ul><li><a href='https://enb.iisd.org/people/jennifer-allan-dr'>Jennifer Allan’s profile</a></li><li>COP28 <a href='https://www.cop28.com/thematic-program'>Thematic Program</a></li><li>IEA World Energy Outlook 2023 - <a href='https://www.iea.org/reports/world-energy-outlook-2023'>Oil demand to peak by 2030</a> </li></ul><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/challengingclimate">Support the show</a></p><p><a href='https://mailchi.mp/cb62b666e3c5/challenging-climate'>Subscribe for email updates</a></p>]]></content:encoded>
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  <psc:chapter start="8:23" title="Deep dive into COP28 Agenda, Topic 1: The Global Stocktake" />
  <psc:chapter start="11:57" title="Topic 2: Phasing out fossil fuels" />
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  <psc:chapter start="28:41" title="Topic 5: Loss and damage (social inequality, China)" />
  <psc:chapter start="36:54" title="Where do carbon dioxide removal (CDR) and solar radiation management (SRM) stand in the COP agenda?" />
  <psc:chapter start="38:48" title="COPs are getting bigger and bigger - but is it creating value? " />
  <psc:chapter start="44:19" title="Can we expect a dramatic shift in climate politics?" />
  <psc:chapter start="46:14" title="Theatre for politicians - Have COPs outgrown their usefulness?" />
  <psc:chapter start="49:08" title="What gives you optimism?" />
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    <itunes:title>39. Greg Nemet on how solar became cheap (with Energy vs Climate)</itunes:title>
    <title>39. Greg Nemet on how solar became cheap (with Energy vs Climate)</title>
    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Today’s episode is brought to you in collaboration with our friends at the Energy vs Climate podcast. Energy vs Climate breaks down the trade-offs and hard truths of the energy transition in Alberta, Canada, and beyond with energy experts David Keith, Sara Hastings-Simon and Ed Whittingham.    In this episode, they speak with Greg Nemet, a Professor at the University of Wisconsin–Madison’s La Follette School of Public Affairs. His research focuses on technological change in energy and th...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p>Today’s episode is brought to you in collaboration with our friends at the Energy vs Climate podcast. Energy vs Climate breaks down the trade-offs and hard truths of the energy transition in Alberta, Canada, and beyond with energy experts David Keith, Sara Hastings-Simon and Ed Whittingham.  <br/><br/>In this episode, they speak with Greg Nemet, a Professor at the University of Wisconsin–Madison’s La Follette School of Public Affairs. His research focuses on technological change in energy and the ways in which public policy can affect it. Listen as they discuss the trajectory of solar energy, coming down the cost curve and the energy supply chain.<br/><br/>Links: </p><ul><li><a href='https://www.energyvsclimate.com/youre-invited-how-solar-became-cheap/'>Energy vs Climate</a> Podcast</li><li>Greg Nemet’s <a href='https://www.gregnemet.net/'>profile</a> </li><li>Check out Greg’s book, <a href='https://www.amazon.com/How-Solar-Energy-Became-Cheap/dp/0367136597/'>How Solar Energy Became Cheap</a> </li></ul><p>Topic links: </p><ul><li>Nemet’s paper on <a href='https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0140988312001077?ref=energyvsclimate.com'>Inter-technology knowledge spillovers for energy technologies</a> (Timestamp: 07:43) </li><li>Paper on <a href='https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0301421518305196?via%253Dihub=&amp;ref=energyvsclimate.com'>Evaluating the causes of cost reduction in photovoltaic modules</a> (Timestamp: 24:18) </li><li>NREL Report on <a href='https://www.nrel.gov/docs/fy21osti/77324.pdf?ref=energyvsclimate.com'>U.S. Solar Photovoltaic System and Energy Storage Cost Benchmark: Q1 2020</a> (Timestamp: 27:21) </li></ul><p>Originally published on The Energy vs Climate show on 24 Feb 2022.</p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/challengingclimate">Support the show</a></p><p><a href='https://mailchi.mp/cb62b666e3c5/challenging-climate'>Subscribe for email updates</a></p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Today’s episode is brought to you in collaboration with our friends at the Energy vs Climate podcast. Energy vs Climate breaks down the trade-offs and hard truths of the energy transition in Alberta, Canada, and beyond with energy experts David Keith, Sara Hastings-Simon and Ed Whittingham.  <br/><br/>In this episode, they speak with Greg Nemet, a Professor at the University of Wisconsin–Madison’s La Follette School of Public Affairs. His research focuses on technological change in energy and the ways in which public policy can affect it. Listen as they discuss the trajectory of solar energy, coming down the cost curve and the energy supply chain.<br/><br/>Links: </p><ul><li><a href='https://www.energyvsclimate.com/youre-invited-how-solar-became-cheap/'>Energy vs Climate</a> Podcast</li><li>Greg Nemet’s <a href='https://www.gregnemet.net/'>profile</a> </li><li>Check out Greg’s book, <a href='https://www.amazon.com/How-Solar-Energy-Became-Cheap/dp/0367136597/'>How Solar Energy Became Cheap</a> </li></ul><p>Topic links: </p><ul><li>Nemet’s paper on <a href='https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0140988312001077?ref=energyvsclimate.com'>Inter-technology knowledge spillovers for energy technologies</a> (Timestamp: 07:43) </li><li>Paper on <a href='https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0301421518305196?via%253Dihub=&amp;ref=energyvsclimate.com'>Evaluating the causes of cost reduction in photovoltaic modules</a> (Timestamp: 24:18) </li><li>NREL Report on <a href='https://www.nrel.gov/docs/fy21osti/77324.pdf?ref=energyvsclimate.com'>U.S. Solar Photovoltaic System and Energy Storage Cost Benchmark: Q1 2020</a> (Timestamp: 27:21) </li></ul><p>Originally published on The Energy vs Climate show on 24 Feb 2022.</p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/challengingclimate">Support the show</a></p><p><a href='https://mailchi.mp/cb62b666e3c5/challenging-climate'>Subscribe for email updates</a></p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <itunes:title>A brief podcast review and update</itunes:title>
    <title>A brief podcast review and update</title>
    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[As we break for the summer, listen here for some highlights of our previous episodes and catch up on the ones you've missed. See you in October! Support the show Subscribe for email updates ]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p>As we break for the summer, listen here for some highlights of our previous episodes and catch up on the ones you&apos;ve missed. See you in October!</p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/challengingclimate">Support the show</a></p><p><a href='https://mailchi.mp/cb62b666e3c5/challenging-climate'>Subscribe for email updates</a></p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As we break for the summer, listen here for some highlights of our previous episodes and catch up on the ones you&apos;ve missed. See you in October!</p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/challengingclimate">Support the show</a></p><p><a href='https://mailchi.mp/cb62b666e3c5/challenging-climate'>Subscribe for email updates</a></p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <pubDate>Tue, 27 Jun 2023 09:00:00 +0200</pubDate>
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    <itunes:title>38. Richard Tol on Climate Economics: the cost of carbon, geoengineering &amp; IPCC</itunes:title>
    <title>38. Richard Tol on Climate Economics: the cost of carbon, geoengineering &amp; IPCC</title>
    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Richard S.J. Tol is a Professor at the Department of Economics, University of Sussex and the Professor of the Economics of Climate Change, Institute for Environmental Studies and Department of Spatial Economics, Vrije Universiteit, Amsterdam, the Netherlands. He is also the author of Climate Economics: Economic Analysis of Climate, Climate Change and Climate Policy. In this episode, Tol breaks down climate economics – the economic and social costs and benefits of carbon. We also discuss the c...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p>Richard S.J. Tol is a Professor at the Department of Economics, University of Sussex and the Professor of the Economics of Climate Change, Institute for Environmental Studies and Department of Spatial Economics, Vrije Universiteit, Amsterdam, the Netherlands. He is also the author of <em>Climate Economics: Economic Analysis of Climate, Climate Change and Climate Policy</em>. In this episode, Tol breaks down climate economics – the economic and social costs and benefits of carbon. We also discuss the case for geoengineering and his criticisms on IPCC. <br/><br/>Links: </p><ul><li><a href='https://research.vu.nl/en/persons/rsj-tol'>Richard Tol’s profile</a> </li><li>Richard’s article, <a href='https://www.journals.uchicago.edu/doi/abs/10.1093/reep/rex027'>The Economic Impacts of Climate Change</a> </li></ul><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/challengingclimate">Support the show</a></p><p><a href='https://mailchi.mp/cb62b666e3c5/challenging-climate'>Subscribe for email updates</a></p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Richard S.J. Tol is a Professor at the Department of Economics, University of Sussex and the Professor of the Economics of Climate Change, Institute for Environmental Studies and Department of Spatial Economics, Vrije Universiteit, Amsterdam, the Netherlands. He is also the author of <em>Climate Economics: Economic Analysis of Climate, Climate Change and Climate Policy</em>. In this episode, Tol breaks down climate economics – the economic and social costs and benefits of carbon. We also discuss the case for geoengineering and his criticisms on IPCC. <br/><br/>Links: </p><ul><li><a href='https://research.vu.nl/en/persons/rsj-tol'>Richard Tol’s profile</a> </li><li>Richard’s article, <a href='https://www.journals.uchicago.edu/doi/abs/10.1093/reep/rex027'>The Economic Impacts of Climate Change</a> </li></ul><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/challengingclimate">Support the show</a></p><p><a href='https://mailchi.mp/cb62b666e3c5/challenging-climate'>Subscribe for email updates</a></p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Emma Marris is an environmental writer and Institute Fellow at the UCLA Institute of the Environment and Sustainability. She has also written for National Geographic, the Atlantic, the New York Times, Wired, and other publications. In this episode, we dive into the concepts introduced in her book Rambunctious Garden: Saving Nature in a Post-Wild World, such as wilderness and nature purity. We discuss the relationship between nature and humans, from assisted migration to climate change, and ho...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p>Emma Marris is an environmental writer and Institute Fellow at the UCLA Institute of the Environment and Sustainability. She has also written for National Geographic, the Atlantic, the New York Times, Wired, and other publications. In this episode, we dive into the concepts introduced in her book <em>Rambunctious Garden: Saving Nature in a Post-Wild World</em>, such as wilderness and nature purity. We discuss the relationship between nature and humans, from assisted migration to climate change, and how we can re-envision it. </p><p> </p><p>Links: </p><ul><li><a href='https://www.emmamarris.com/about'>Emma Marris’ profile</a> </li><li>Marris’ <a href='https://www.theatlantic.com/author/emma-marris/'>weekly articles</a> on The Atlantic  </li><li>Check out <a href='https://www.emmamarris.com/writing'>her books</a>, Wild Souls and Rambunctious Garden </li><li>As recommended by Emma, <a href='https://www.waterstones.com/book/the-lost-rainforests-of-britain/guy-shrubsole/9780008527990'>The Lost Rainforests of Britain</a> by Guy Shrubsole</li></ul><p> </p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/challengingclimate">Support the show</a></p><p><a href='https://mailchi.mp/cb62b666e3c5/challenging-climate'>Subscribe for email updates</a></p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Emma Marris is an environmental writer and Institute Fellow at the UCLA Institute of the Environment and Sustainability. She has also written for National Geographic, the Atlantic, the New York Times, Wired, and other publications. In this episode, we dive into the concepts introduced in her book <em>Rambunctious Garden: Saving Nature in a Post-Wild World</em>, such as wilderness and nature purity. We discuss the relationship between nature and humans, from assisted migration to climate change, and how we can re-envision it. </p><p> </p><p>Links: </p><ul><li><a href='https://www.emmamarris.com/about'>Emma Marris’ profile</a> </li><li>Marris’ <a href='https://www.theatlantic.com/author/emma-marris/'>weekly articles</a> on The Atlantic  </li><li>Check out <a href='https://www.emmamarris.com/writing'>her books</a>, Wild Souls and Rambunctious Garden </li><li>As recommended by Emma, <a href='https://www.waterstones.com/book/the-lost-rainforests-of-britain/guy-shrubsole/9780008527990'>The Lost Rainforests of Britain</a> by Guy Shrubsole</li></ul><p> </p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/challengingclimate">Support the show</a></p><p><a href='https://mailchi.mp/cb62b666e3c5/challenging-climate'>Subscribe for email updates</a></p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <itunes:title>36. John Moore on the melting cryosphere and glacier geoengineering </itunes:title>
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    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Dr John Moore is a Research Professor at University of Lapland, Finland and Chief Scientist of GCESS at Beijing Normal University. His research focuses on geoengineering, sea level change, and ice sheet dynamics. In this episode, we take a deep dive into the cryosphere – the state and future of glaciers, sea ice and permafrost, as well as consider marine glacier geoengineering. John also shares his unique experience as a leader of a major geoengineering research program in China.   Links...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p>Dr John Moore is a Research Professor at University of Lapland, Finland and Chief Scientist of GCESS at Beijing Normal University. His research focuses on geoengineering, sea level change, and ice sheet dynamics. In this episode, we take a deep dive into the cryosphere – the state and future of glaciers, sea ice and permafrost, as well as consider marine glacier geoengineering. John also shares his unique experience as a leader of a major geoengineering research program in China. <br/><br/>Links: </p><ul><li><a href='https://research.ulapland.fi/en/persons/john-moore'>John Moore’s profile</a> </li><li>His paper on <a href='https://research.ulapland.fi/en/publications/targeted-geoengineering-local-interventions-with-global-implicati'>several cryosphere interventions</a> </li><li>His call for <a href='https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-018-03036-4'>marine glacier geoengineering</a>  </li><li>His latest study on the <a href='https://academic.oup.com/pnasnexus/article/2/4/pgad103/7087219'>ocean curtain idea</a> </li></ul><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/challengingclimate">Support the show</a></p><p><a href='https://mailchi.mp/cb62b666e3c5/challenging-climate'>Subscribe for email updates</a></p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dr John Moore is a Research Professor at University of Lapland, Finland and Chief Scientist of GCESS at Beijing Normal University. His research focuses on geoengineering, sea level change, and ice sheet dynamics. In this episode, we take a deep dive into the cryosphere – the state and future of glaciers, sea ice and permafrost, as well as consider marine glacier geoengineering. John also shares his unique experience as a leader of a major geoengineering research program in China. <br/><br/>Links: </p><ul><li><a href='https://research.ulapland.fi/en/persons/john-moore'>John Moore’s profile</a> </li><li>His paper on <a href='https://research.ulapland.fi/en/publications/targeted-geoengineering-local-interventions-with-global-implicati'>several cryosphere interventions</a> </li><li>His call for <a href='https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-018-03036-4'>marine glacier geoengineering</a>  </li><li>His latest study on the <a href='https://academic.oup.com/pnasnexus/article/2/4/pgad103/7087219'>ocean curtain idea</a> </li></ul><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/challengingclimate">Support the show</a></p><p><a href='https://mailchi.mp/cb62b666e3c5/challenging-climate'>Subscribe for email updates</a></p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <itunes:title>35. Steve Smith on net zero pledges and CDR strategies &amp; tech</itunes:title>
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    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Dr Steve Smith is the Executive Director of CO2RE, as well as Executive Director of the Oxford Net Zero initiative, based at the University of Oxford’s Smith School of Enterprise and the Environment. He also previously co-led the Climate Science Team at the UK Department for Business, Energy and Industrial Strategy. In this episode, we take a holistic deep dive into Carbon Dioxide Removal (CDR) and discuss his expertise on net zero pledges, the political and economic strategies for CDR, and t...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p>Dr Steve Smith is the Executive Director of CO2RE, as well as Executive Director of the Oxford Net Zero initiative, based at the University of Oxford’s Smith School of Enterprise and the Environment. He also previously co-led the Climate Science Team at the UK Department for Business, Energy and Industrial Strategy. In this episode, we take a holistic deep dive into Carbon Dioxide Removal (CDR) and discuss his expertise on net zero pledges, the political and economic strategies for CDR, and technology readiness. </p><p>Links: </p><ul><li>Steve’s <a href='https://www.smithschool.ox.ac.uk/person/dr-steve-smith'>Smith School profile</a> and <a href='https://co2re.org/people/dr-steve-smith/'>CO2RE profile</a> </li><li>The <a href='https://zerotracker.net/'>Net Zero Tracker</a> project - supported by students!</li><li><a href='https://www.stateofcdr.org/'>The State of Carbon Dioxide Removal</a> report</li></ul><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/challengingclimate">Support the show</a></p><p><a href='https://mailchi.mp/cb62b666e3c5/challenging-climate'>Subscribe for email updates</a></p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dr Steve Smith is the Executive Director of CO2RE, as well as Executive Director of the Oxford Net Zero initiative, based at the University of Oxford’s Smith School of Enterprise and the Environment. He also previously co-led the Climate Science Team at the UK Department for Business, Energy and Industrial Strategy. In this episode, we take a holistic deep dive into Carbon Dioxide Removal (CDR) and discuss his expertise on net zero pledges, the political and economic strategies for CDR, and technology readiness. </p><p>Links: </p><ul><li>Steve’s <a href='https://www.smithschool.ox.ac.uk/person/dr-steve-smith'>Smith School profile</a> and <a href='https://co2re.org/people/dr-steve-smith/'>CO2RE profile</a> </li><li>The <a href='https://zerotracker.net/'>Net Zero Tracker</a> project - supported by students!</li><li><a href='https://www.stateofcdr.org/'>The State of Carbon Dioxide Removal</a> report</li></ul><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/challengingclimate">Support the show</a></p><p><a href='https://mailchi.mp/cb62b666e3c5/challenging-climate'>Subscribe for email updates</a></p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <itunes:title>34. Heleen de Coninck on the IPCC, climate tech &amp; a just Net Zero transition </itunes:title>
    <title>34. Heleen de Coninck on the IPCC, climate tech &amp; a just Net Zero transition </title>
    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Dr Heleen de Coninck is a Professor of Socio-Technical Innovation and Climate Change at Eindhoven University of Technology, and Associate Professor in Innovation Studies and Sustainability at Radboud University. She is also the newly appointed deputy chair of the Dutch Scientific Climate Council.   In this episode, we discuss the four Net Zero transitions set out in the 2018 IPCC 1.5ºC report, and specifically how to facilitate a just transition. Towards the end, we debate on how much fo...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p>Dr Heleen de Coninck is a Professor of Socio-Technical Innovation and Climate Change at Eindhoven University of Technology, and Associate Professor in Innovation Studies and Sustainability at Radboud University. She is also the newly appointed deputy chair of the Dutch Scientific Climate Council. <br/><br/>In this episode, we discuss the four Net Zero transitions set out in the 2018 IPCC 1.5ºC report, and specifically how to facilitate a just transition. Towards the end, we debate on how much focus on geoengineering technologies is healthy. <br/><br/>Links: </p><ul><li>Heleen&apos;s <a href='https://www.tue.nl/en/research/researchers/heleen-de-coninck'>profile</a>  </li><li><a href='https://pure.tue.nl/ws/files/216365823/Rede_Coninck_9_9_2022.pdf'>Lecture transcript: system change, not climate change</a> </li><li>IPCC Special Report on <a href='https://www.ipcc.ch/report/carbon-dioxide-capture-and-storage/'>&quot;Carbon Dioxide Capture and Storage”</a>  </li><li>IPCC Special Report on <a href='https://www.ipcc.ch/sr15/'>“Global Warming of 1.5 ºC”</a>  </li></ul><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/challengingclimate">Support the show</a></p><p><a href='https://mailchi.mp/cb62b666e3c5/challenging-climate'>Subscribe for email updates</a></p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dr Heleen de Coninck is a Professor of Socio-Technical Innovation and Climate Change at Eindhoven University of Technology, and Associate Professor in Innovation Studies and Sustainability at Radboud University. She is also the newly appointed deputy chair of the Dutch Scientific Climate Council. <br/><br/>In this episode, we discuss the four Net Zero transitions set out in the 2018 IPCC 1.5ºC report, and specifically how to facilitate a just transition. Towards the end, we debate on how much focus on geoengineering technologies is healthy. <br/><br/>Links: </p><ul><li>Heleen&apos;s <a href='https://www.tue.nl/en/research/researchers/heleen-de-coninck'>profile</a>  </li><li><a href='https://pure.tue.nl/ws/files/216365823/Rede_Coninck_9_9_2022.pdf'>Lecture transcript: system change, not climate change</a> </li><li>IPCC Special Report on <a href='https://www.ipcc.ch/report/carbon-dioxide-capture-and-storage/'>&quot;Carbon Dioxide Capture and Storage”</a>  </li><li>IPCC Special Report on <a href='https://www.ipcc.ch/sr15/'>“Global Warming of 1.5 ºC”</a>  </li></ul><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/challengingclimate">Support the show</a></p><p><a href='https://mailchi.mp/cb62b666e3c5/challenging-climate'>Subscribe for email updates</a></p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Dr David Fahey is the Director of the Chemical Sciences Laboratory in the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA), and he also serves as a Co-Chair of its the Montreal Protocol’s Scientific Assessment Panel, which produces the quadrennial assessments of stratospheric ozone depletion. In this episode, we discuss flying planes into the stratosphere to conduct experiments on ozone depletion, the success of the Montreal Protocol, and solar radiation modification (SRM) - potential i...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p>Dr David Fahey is the Director of the Chemical Sciences Laboratory in the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA), and he also serves as a Co-Chair of its the Montreal Protocol’s Scientific Assessment Panel, which produces the quadrennial assessments of stratospheric ozone depletion. In this episode, we discuss flying planes into the stratosphere to conduct experiments on ozone depletion, the success of the Montreal Protocol, and solar radiation modification (SRM) - potential impacts, future for research and deployment regulation.<br/><br/>Links:</p><ul><li>David Fahey ’s <a href='https://csl.noaa.gov/staff/david.w.fahey/'>profile</a> </li><li>David&apos;s <a href='https://airbornescience.nasa.gov/person/David_Fahey'>work</a> with the NASA Airborne Science Program, </li><li>Including <a href='https://agupubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1029/JD094iD09p11299'>this paper</a> based on the 1987 Airborne Antarctic Ozone Experiment over the Antarctic</li><li>Montreal Protocol <a href='https://ozone.unep.org/science/assessment/sap'>Scientific Assessment Panel</a></li><li>The 2022 <a href='https://ozone.unep.org/system/files/documents/Scientific-Assessment-of-Ozone-Depletion-2022.pdf'>Quadrennial report</a> and <a href='https://ozone.unep.org/system/files/documents/Scientific-Assessment-of-Ozone-Depletion-2022-Executive-Summary.pdf'>Executive Summary</a></li><li><a href='https://wedocs.unep.org/handle/20.500.11822/41903'>One Atmosphere</a>, the UNEP review on SRM research and deployment</li><li><a href='https://www.challengingclimate.org/1873533/12580672'>Episode chapter markers </a></li></ul><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/challengingclimate">Support the show</a></p><p><a href='https://mailchi.mp/cb62b666e3c5/challenging-climate'>Subscribe for email updates</a></p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dr David Fahey is the Director of the Chemical Sciences Laboratory in the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA), and he also serves as a Co-Chair of its the Montreal Protocol’s Scientific Assessment Panel, which produces the quadrennial assessments of stratospheric ozone depletion. In this episode, we discuss flying planes into the stratosphere to conduct experiments on ozone depletion, the success of the Montreal Protocol, and solar radiation modification (SRM) - potential impacts, future for research and deployment regulation.<br/><br/>Links:</p><ul><li>David Fahey ’s <a href='https://csl.noaa.gov/staff/david.w.fahey/'>profile</a> </li><li>David&apos;s <a href='https://airbornescience.nasa.gov/person/David_Fahey'>work</a> with the NASA Airborne Science Program, </li><li>Including <a href='https://agupubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1029/JD094iD09p11299'>this paper</a> based on the 1987 Airborne Antarctic Ozone Experiment over the Antarctic</li><li>Montreal Protocol <a href='https://ozone.unep.org/science/assessment/sap'>Scientific Assessment Panel</a></li><li>The 2022 <a href='https://ozone.unep.org/system/files/documents/Scientific-Assessment-of-Ozone-Depletion-2022.pdf'>Quadrennial report</a> and <a href='https://ozone.unep.org/system/files/documents/Scientific-Assessment-of-Ozone-Depletion-2022-Executive-Summary.pdf'>Executive Summary</a></li><li><a href='https://wedocs.unep.org/handle/20.500.11822/41903'>One Atmosphere</a>, the UNEP review on SRM research and deployment</li><li><a href='https://www.challengingclimate.org/1873533/12580672'>Episode chapter markers </a></li></ul><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/challengingclimate">Support the show</a></p><p><a href='https://mailchi.mp/cb62b666e3c5/challenging-climate'>Subscribe for email updates</a></p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <title>32. Chris Stark on the UK’s Climate Change Committee</title>
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    <description><![CDATA[<p>Chris Stark is the Chief Executive of the UK‘s Climate Change Committee. Previously, he worked as the Director of Energy and Climate Change in the Scottish Government. In this episode, Chris breaks down the role of the CCC in UK’s climate policy. We then take a close look at how UK has done so far in cutting emissions, what else needs to be done, and the challenges that lie ahead. We end off with a discussion of where geoengineering techniques like SAI sit on the UKCCC’s radar.<br/><br/>Links: </p><ul><li>Chris Stark’s <a href='https://www.theccc.org.uk/about/#:~:text=Chris%20Stark%20has%20been%20Chief,the%20accompanying%20energy%20system%20transition.'>profile</a> </li><li>Episode <a href='https://www.challengingclimate.org/1873533/12433360'>chapter markers </a></li></ul><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/challengingclimate">Support the show</a></p><p><a href='https://mailchi.mp/cb62b666e3c5/challenging-climate'>Subscribe for email updates</a></p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris Stark is the Chief Executive of the UK‘s Climate Change Committee. Previously, he worked as the Director of Energy and Climate Change in the Scottish Government. In this episode, Chris breaks down the role of the CCC in UK’s climate policy. We then take a close look at how UK has done so far in cutting emissions, what else needs to be done, and the challenges that lie ahead. We end off with a discussion of where geoengineering techniques like SAI sit on the UKCCC’s radar.<br/><br/>Links: </p><ul><li>Chris Stark’s <a href='https://www.theccc.org.uk/about/#:~:text=Chris%20Stark%20has%20been%20Chief,the%20accompanying%20energy%20system%20transition.'>profile</a> </li><li>Episode <a href='https://www.challengingclimate.org/1873533/12433360'>chapter markers </a></li></ul><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/challengingclimate">Support the show</a></p><p><a href='https://mailchi.mp/cb62b666e3c5/challenging-climate'>Subscribe for email updates</a></p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <itunes:author>Jesse Reynolds and Pete Irvine </itunes:author>
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    <pubDate>Tue, 21 Mar 2023 09:00:00 +0100</pubDate>
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  <psc:chapter start="10:47" title="What is the UK Climate Change Committee?" />
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    <itunes:title>31. Ken Caldeira on politics in research and the feasibility of the energy transition</itunes:title>
    <title>31. Ken Caldeira on politics in research and the feasibility of the energy transition</title>
    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Ken Caldeira is a senior scientist at the Carnegie Institution for Science and is also a senior scientist at Breakthrough Energy. Ken has a wide-spectrum approach to analyzing the world’s climate systems - with particular interests in modeling the Earth system and the energy transition, and in using experiments and observation to study our changing coasts and coral reefs.   In this episode, Ken takes us through his fascinating journey into environmental and climate science. We dive deep ...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p>Ken Caldeira is a senior scientist at the Carnegie Institution for Science and is also a senior scientist at Breakthrough Energy. Ken has a wide-spectrum approach to analyzing the world’s climate systems - with particular interests in modeling the Earth system and the energy transition, and in using experiments and observation to study our changing coasts and coral reefs. <br/><br/>In this episode, Ken takes us through his fascinating journey into environmental and climate science. We dive deep into navigating political influences on environmental research, the technical and social feasibility of the energy transition, and his views on wider underrepresented climate issues.  <br/><br/>Links: </p><ul><li>Ken Caldeira’s <a href='https://bse.carnegiescience.edu/dr-ken-caldeira-emeritus'>profile</a>  </li><li>Ken’s Google Scholar <a href='https://scholar.google.com/citations?user=zgXf2JsAAAAJ&amp;hl=en'>profile</a> </li><li>Episode <a href='https://www.challengingclimate.org/1873533/12376202'>chapter markers</a> </li></ul><p><br/></p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/challengingclimate">Support the show</a></p><p><a href='https://mailchi.mp/cb62b666e3c5/challenging-climate'>Subscribe for email updates</a></p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ken Caldeira is a senior scientist at the Carnegie Institution for Science and is also a senior scientist at Breakthrough Energy. Ken has a wide-spectrum approach to analyzing the world’s climate systems - with particular interests in modeling the Earth system and the energy transition, and in using experiments and observation to study our changing coasts and coral reefs. <br/><br/>In this episode, Ken takes us through his fascinating journey into environmental and climate science. We dive deep into navigating political influences on environmental research, the technical and social feasibility of the energy transition, and his views on wider underrepresented climate issues.  <br/><br/>Links: </p><ul><li>Ken Caldeira’s <a href='https://bse.carnegiescience.edu/dr-ken-caldeira-emeritus'>profile</a>  </li><li>Ken’s Google Scholar <a href='https://scholar.google.com/citations?user=zgXf2JsAAAAJ&amp;hl=en'>profile</a> </li><li>Episode <a href='https://www.challengingclimate.org/1873533/12376202'>chapter markers</a> </li></ul><p><br/></p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/challengingclimate">Support the show</a></p><p><a href='https://mailchi.mp/cb62b666e3c5/challenging-climate'>Subscribe for email updates</a></p>]]></content:encoded>
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  <psc:chapter start="19:23" title="His work with Breakthrough Energy and science communication" />
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  <psc:chapter start="38:59" title="What can we implement besides a carbon tax?" />
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  <psc:chapter start="46:27" title="What gives you hope for the future?" />
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    <itunes:title>30. Andrew Revkin on climate journalism - its evolution, perils and narrative capture</itunes:title>
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    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Andrew Revkin is one of the world's leading science and environmental journalists, with over 30 years' experience thinking and writing about climate change and sustainability. He has written at The New York Times and ProPublica, and his current outlet is “Sustain What?” at Substack. He is also the founding director of the new Initiative on Communication and Sustainability at Columbia University's Earth Institute.   In this episode, Revkin shares his remarkable journalistic experiences, s...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p>Andrew Revkin is one of the world&apos;s leading science and environmental journalists, with over 30 years&apos; experience thinking and writing about climate change and sustainability. He has written at The New York Times and ProPublica, and his current outlet is “Sustain What?” at Substack. He is also the founding director of the new Initiative on Communication and Sustainability at Columbia University&apos;s Earth Institute. <br/><br/>In this episode, Revkin shares his remarkable journalistic experiences, such as reporting from the Arctic, and how media and the climate discussion have evolved throughout his career. Our discussion is dynamic and wide-ranging, from extreme weather, to narrative capture, to tackling questions posed in previous episodes like climate doomism and ‘Is 1.5ºC still alive?’ <br/><br/>Links: </p><ul><li><a href='https://people.climate.columbia.edu/users/profile/andrew-revkin'>Profile</a> </li><li>Revkin&apos;s Substack, <a href='https://revkin.substack.com/'>&apos;Sustain What?&apos;</a> </li><li>His <a href='https://www.nytimes.com/2003/04/24/readersopinions/andrew-c-revkin.html'>2003 Q&amp;A</a> from the Arctic sea ice</li><li>His dispatches from <a href='https://archive.nytimes.com/www.nytimes.com/ref/science/earth/montreal-climate.html'>2005 Montreal</a> </li><li>His blog <a href='https://archive.nytimes.com/dotearth.blogs.nytimes.com/'>&apos;Dot Earth&apos;</a> at NYT </li><li>His 2016 Anthropocene article, <a href='https://www.anthropocenemagazine.org/anthropocenejourney/'>An Anthropocene Journey </a></li></ul><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/challengingclimate">Support the show</a></p><p><a href='https://mailchi.mp/cb62b666e3c5/challenging-climate'>Subscribe for email updates</a></p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andrew Revkin is one of the world&apos;s leading science and environmental journalists, with over 30 years&apos; experience thinking and writing about climate change and sustainability. He has written at The New York Times and ProPublica, and his current outlet is “Sustain What?” at Substack. He is also the founding director of the new Initiative on Communication and Sustainability at Columbia University&apos;s Earth Institute. <br/><br/>In this episode, Revkin shares his remarkable journalistic experiences, such as reporting from the Arctic, and how media and the climate discussion have evolved throughout his career. Our discussion is dynamic and wide-ranging, from extreme weather, to narrative capture, to tackling questions posed in previous episodes like climate doomism and ‘Is 1.5ºC still alive?’ <br/><br/>Links: </p><ul><li><a href='https://people.climate.columbia.edu/users/profile/andrew-revkin'>Profile</a> </li><li>Revkin&apos;s Substack, <a href='https://revkin.substack.com/'>&apos;Sustain What?&apos;</a> </li><li>His <a href='https://www.nytimes.com/2003/04/24/readersopinions/andrew-c-revkin.html'>2003 Q&amp;A</a> from the Arctic sea ice</li><li>His dispatches from <a href='https://archive.nytimes.com/www.nytimes.com/ref/science/earth/montreal-climate.html'>2005 Montreal</a> </li><li>His blog <a href='https://archive.nytimes.com/dotearth.blogs.nytimes.com/'>&apos;Dot Earth&apos;</a> at NYT </li><li>His 2016 Anthropocene article, <a href='https://www.anthropocenemagazine.org/anthropocenejourney/'>An Anthropocene Journey </a></li></ul><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/challengingclimate">Support the show</a></p><p><a href='https://mailchi.mp/cb62b666e3c5/challenging-climate'>Subscribe for email updates</a></p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <itunes:author>Jesse Reynolds and Pete Irvine </itunes:author>
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    <itunes:title>29. Daniel Harrison on Marine Cloud Brightening and the RRAP</itunes:title>
    <title>29. Daniel Harrison on Marine Cloud Brightening and the RRAP</title>
    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Dr Daniel Harrison is an oceanographer at Southern Cross University in Australia. His research focuses on how engineering intervention in marine systems can be used to improve ecological, environmental, or societal outcomes. In this episode, we explore Daniel’s work in applying Marine Cloud Brightening (MCB) to protect the Great Barrier Reef against global warming. We find out what MCB is, discuss how it can be implemented responsibly and effectively to save the Great Barrier Reef, and other ...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p>Dr Daniel Harrison is an oceanographer at Southern Cross University in Australia. His research focuses on how engineering intervention in marine systems can be used to improve ecological, environmental, or societal outcomes. In this episode, we explore Daniel’s work in applying Marine Cloud Brightening (MCB) to protect the Great Barrier Reef against global warming. We find out what MCB is, discuss how it can be implemented responsibly and effectively to save the Great Barrier Reef, and other potential applications.  <br/> <br/>Links: </p><ul><li>Daniel&apos;s <a href='https://researchportal.scu.edu.au/esploro/profile/daniel_harrison/overview?institution=61SCU_INST'>profile</a>  </li><li>UNESCO: <a href='https://www.barrierreef.org/news/blog/we-must-not-delay-action-to-save-the-great-barrier-reef-copy#:~:text=UNESCO%20has%20again%20recommended%20the,be%20placed%20on%20the%20list'>Great Barrier Reef is added to the &apos;In Danger&apos; list</a> </li><li><a href='https://gbrrestoration.org/'>Reef Restoration and Adaptation Program</a> (RRAP) </li><li>Daniel&apos;s talk on <a href='https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lylzQsZUZnk'>C2G Youtube</a>, on Governance of Marine Cloud Brightening </li><li>Daniel’s podcast interview on <a href='https://100climateconversations.com/daniel-harrison/'>100 climate conversations</a> </li></ul><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/challengingclimate">Support the show</a></p><p><a href='https://mailchi.mp/cb62b666e3c5/challenging-climate'>Subscribe for email updates</a></p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dr Daniel Harrison is an oceanographer at Southern Cross University in Australia. His research focuses on how engineering intervention in marine systems can be used to improve ecological, environmental, or societal outcomes. In this episode, we explore Daniel’s work in applying Marine Cloud Brightening (MCB) to protect the Great Barrier Reef against global warming. We find out what MCB is, discuss how it can be implemented responsibly and effectively to save the Great Barrier Reef, and other potential applications.  <br/> <br/>Links: </p><ul><li>Daniel&apos;s <a href='https://researchportal.scu.edu.au/esploro/profile/daniel_harrison/overview?institution=61SCU_INST'>profile</a>  </li><li>UNESCO: <a href='https://www.barrierreef.org/news/blog/we-must-not-delay-action-to-save-the-great-barrier-reef-copy#:~:text=UNESCO%20has%20again%20recommended%20the,be%20placed%20on%20the%20list'>Great Barrier Reef is added to the &apos;In Danger&apos; list</a> </li><li><a href='https://gbrrestoration.org/'>Reef Restoration and Adaptation Program</a> (RRAP) </li><li>Daniel&apos;s talk on <a href='https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lylzQsZUZnk'>C2G Youtube</a>, on Governance of Marine Cloud Brightening </li><li>Daniel’s podcast interview on <a href='https://100climateconversations.com/daniel-harrison/'>100 climate conversations</a> </li></ul><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/challengingclimate">Support the show</a></p><p><a href='https://mailchi.mp/cb62b666e3c5/challenging-climate'>Subscribe for email updates</a></p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <itunes:title>28. Erica Thompson on escaping Model Land</itunes:title>
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    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Dr Erica Thompson is a Senior Policy Fellow in Ethics of Modelling and Simulation at the LSE Data Science Institute. Erica's research involves the appropriate use of mathematical and computational modelling to inform real-world decision-making. In this episode, we discuss Erica’s recent book, Escape from Model Land and tackle issues such as bias, disillusioning science communication to help us get out of the ‘Model Land’ worldview and into the real world.  Links:  Erica Thompson’s p...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p>Dr Erica Thompson is a Senior Policy Fellow in Ethics of Modelling and Simulation at the LSE Data Science Institute. Erica&apos;s research involves the appropriate use of mathematical and computational modelling to inform real-world decision-making. In this episode, we discuss Erica’s recent book, Escape from Model Land and tackle issues such as bias, disillusioning science communication to help us get out of the ‘Model Land’ worldview and into the real world. </p><p>Links: </p><ul><li>Erica Thompson’s <a href='https://www.lse.ac.uk/DSI/people/Erica-Thompson'>profile</a>  </li><li>Erica’s <a href='http://www.ericathompson.co.uk/'>website</a> </li><li>Check out Erica’s book, <a href='http://www.ericathompson.co.uk/books/'>Escape from Model Land</a>  </li></ul><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/challengingclimate">Support the show</a></p><p><a href='https://mailchi.mp/cb62b666e3c5/challenging-climate'>Subscribe for email updates</a></p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dr Erica Thompson is a Senior Policy Fellow in Ethics of Modelling and Simulation at the LSE Data Science Institute. Erica&apos;s research involves the appropriate use of mathematical and computational modelling to inform real-world decision-making. In this episode, we discuss Erica’s recent book, Escape from Model Land and tackle issues such as bias, disillusioning science communication to help us get out of the ‘Model Land’ worldview and into the real world. </p><p>Links: </p><ul><li>Erica Thompson’s <a href='https://www.lse.ac.uk/DSI/people/Erica-Thompson'>profile</a>  </li><li>Erica’s <a href='http://www.ericathompson.co.uk/'>website</a> </li><li>Check out Erica’s book, <a href='http://www.ericathompson.co.uk/books/'>Escape from Model Land</a>  </li></ul><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/challengingclimate">Support the show</a></p><p><a href='https://mailchi.mp/cb62b666e3c5/challenging-climate'>Subscribe for email updates</a></p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <itunes:title>27. Luke Iseman on his for-profit solar geoengineering venture - Make Sunsets</itunes:title>
    <title>27. Luke Iseman on his for-profit solar geoengineering venture - Make Sunsets</title>
    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Luke Iseman is the founder of Make Sunsets, a recently launched startup that is selling “cooling credits” on the promise that they will release sulphur dioxide into the stratosphere using weather balloons. In this episode, we discuss Make Sunset’s mission to “substantially lower global temperatures,” the details of their offering, the technical challenges for verifying their cooling credits, and the potential political repercussions of their efforts  Links:  Make Sunsets official website...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p>Luke Iseman is the founder of Make Sunsets, a recently launched startup that is selling “cooling credits” on the promise that they will release sulphur dioxide into the stratosphere using weather balloons. In this episode, we discuss Make Sunset’s mission to “substantially lower global temperatures,” the details of their offering, the technical challenges for verifying their cooling credits, and the potential political repercussions of their efforts<br/><br/>Links: </p><p>Make Sunsets official website: <a href='https://makesunsets.com/'>https://makesunsets.com/</a> </p><p>Make Sunsets contested cooling calculations: <a href='https://makesunsets.com/blogs/news/calculating-cooling'>https://makesunsets.com/blogs/news/calculating-cooling</a> </p><p>Luke’s blog post from just before he launched this effort, “Geoengineering Now”: <a href='https://www.dirtnail.com/2022/04/04/geoengineering-now/'>https://www.dirtnail.com/2022/04/04/geoengineering-now/</a> </p><p><br/>Some reactions to Make Sunsets: </p><p>Ted Parson’s essay on Make Sunsets, “A Dangerous Disruption”: <a href='https://legal-planet.org/2023/01/02/a-dangerous-disruption/'>https://legal-planet.org/2023/01/02/a-dangerous-disruption/</a> </p><p>David Keith on why not to commercialize geoengineering: <a href='https://twitter.com/DKeithClimate/status/1608085360927457281'>https://twitter.com/DKeithClimate/status/1608085360927457281</a> </p><p>Gwynne Dyer’s comment in Stuff: <a href='https://www.stuff.co.nz/opinion/130909204/balloon-goes-up-on-geoengineering-sulfur-scam'>https://www.stuff.co.nz/opinion/130909204/balloon-goes-up-on-geoengineering-sulfur-scam</a> </p><p><br/>Another podcast interview with Luke Iseman by Reviewer 2 Does Geoengineering: <a href='https://open.spotify.com/episode/2Fr15fdX20qyyfVX8VCF3Q'>https://open.spotify.com/episode/2Fr15fdX20qyyfVX8VCF3Q</a> </p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/challengingclimate">Support the show</a></p><p><a href='https://mailchi.mp/cb62b666e3c5/challenging-climate'>Subscribe for email updates</a></p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Luke Iseman is the founder of Make Sunsets, a recently launched startup that is selling “cooling credits” on the promise that they will release sulphur dioxide into the stratosphere using weather balloons. In this episode, we discuss Make Sunset’s mission to “substantially lower global temperatures,” the details of their offering, the technical challenges for verifying their cooling credits, and the potential political repercussions of their efforts<br/><br/>Links: </p><p>Make Sunsets official website: <a href='https://makesunsets.com/'>https://makesunsets.com/</a> </p><p>Make Sunsets contested cooling calculations: <a href='https://makesunsets.com/blogs/news/calculating-cooling'>https://makesunsets.com/blogs/news/calculating-cooling</a> </p><p>Luke’s blog post from just before he launched this effort, “Geoengineering Now”: <a href='https://www.dirtnail.com/2022/04/04/geoengineering-now/'>https://www.dirtnail.com/2022/04/04/geoengineering-now/</a> </p><p><br/>Some reactions to Make Sunsets: </p><p>Ted Parson’s essay on Make Sunsets, “A Dangerous Disruption”: <a href='https://legal-planet.org/2023/01/02/a-dangerous-disruption/'>https://legal-planet.org/2023/01/02/a-dangerous-disruption/</a> </p><p>David Keith on why not to commercialize geoengineering: <a href='https://twitter.com/DKeithClimate/status/1608085360927457281'>https://twitter.com/DKeithClimate/status/1608085360927457281</a> </p><p>Gwynne Dyer’s comment in Stuff: <a href='https://www.stuff.co.nz/opinion/130909204/balloon-goes-up-on-geoengineering-sulfur-scam'>https://www.stuff.co.nz/opinion/130909204/balloon-goes-up-on-geoengineering-sulfur-scam</a> </p><p><br/>Another podcast interview with Luke Iseman by Reviewer 2 Does Geoengineering: <a href='https://open.spotify.com/episode/2Fr15fdX20qyyfVX8VCF3Q'>https://open.spotify.com/episode/2Fr15fdX20qyyfVX8VCF3Q</a> </p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/challengingclimate">Support the show</a></p><p><a href='https://mailchi.mp/cb62b666e3c5/challenging-climate'>Subscribe for email updates</a></p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <itunes:title>26. The Anniversary Special</itunes:title>
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    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Our year-end special celebrates the one-year anniversary of the Challenging Climate podcast. In this episode, Pete and Jesse reflect on the past 25 episodes, whether we achieved our vision for the podcast thus far, how we’ve navigated controversial guest speakers and learning to balance diversity of thought.  Looking forward into 2023, we discuss new topics we want to explore, and old topics we hope to dive into at greater depths and different angles. Have any ideas for future topics or ...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p>Our year-end special celebrates the one-year anniversary of the Challenging Climate podcast. In this episode, Pete and Jesse reflect on the past 25 episodes, whether we achieved our vision for the podcast thus far, how we’ve navigated controversial guest speakers and learning to balance diversity of thought. </p><p>Looking forward into 2023, we discuss new topics we want to explore, and old topics we hope to dive into at greater depths and different angles. Have any ideas for future topics or guest speakers? <br/><br/>Drop us an email at info@challengingclimate.org <br/><br/>Links:</p><ul><li>Check out our <a href='https://twitter.com/ChalClimate'>twitter</a></li><li><a href='https://pjirvine.github.io/'>Pete Irvine</a>&apos;s website</li><li><a href='https://jreynolds.org/'>Jesse Reynold</a>&apos;s website</li><li><a href='https://hannahritchie.substack.com/'>Sustainability by numbers</a>, a substack by Hannah Ritchie</li><li><a href='https://www.wakesmith.earth/'>Pandora&apos;s Toolbox</a>, by Wake Smith</li></ul><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/challengingclimate">Support the show</a></p><p><a href='https://mailchi.mp/cb62b666e3c5/challenging-climate'>Subscribe for email updates</a></p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Our year-end special celebrates the one-year anniversary of the Challenging Climate podcast. In this episode, Pete and Jesse reflect on the past 25 episodes, whether we achieved our vision for the podcast thus far, how we’ve navigated controversial guest speakers and learning to balance diversity of thought. </p><p>Looking forward into 2023, we discuss new topics we want to explore, and old topics we hope to dive into at greater depths and different angles. Have any ideas for future topics or guest speakers? <br/><br/>Drop us an email at info@challengingclimate.org <br/><br/>Links:</p><ul><li>Check out our <a href='https://twitter.com/ChalClimate'>twitter</a></li><li><a href='https://pjirvine.github.io/'>Pete Irvine</a>&apos;s website</li><li><a href='https://jreynolds.org/'>Jesse Reynold</a>&apos;s website</li><li><a href='https://hannahritchie.substack.com/'>Sustainability by numbers</a>, a substack by Hannah Ritchie</li><li><a href='https://www.wakesmith.earth/'>Pandora&apos;s Toolbox</a>, by Wake Smith</li></ul><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/challengingclimate">Support the show</a></p><p><a href='https://mailchi.mp/cb62b666e3c5/challenging-climate'>Subscribe for email updates</a></p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <itunes:title>25. Patrick Brown on extreme weather and the obvious climate strategy</itunes:title>
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    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Dr Patrick Brown is the Co-director of the Climate &amp; Energy group at the Breakthrough Institute and Adjunct lecturer in Energy Policy &amp; Climate at Johns Hopkins University. In this episode, we discuss Patrick’s expertise on the economic impacts of extreme weather, and unpack trends and attributable risk. We then venture into a broader scope based on his essay, ‘The obvious climate strategy nobody will talk about’, which carries the rest of the discussion into climate targets and bias ...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p>Dr Patrick Brown is the Co-director of the Climate &amp; Energy group at the Breakthrough Institute and Adjunct lecturer in Energy Policy &amp; Climate at Johns Hopkins University. In this episode, we discuss Patrick’s expertise on the economic impacts of extreme weather, and unpack trends and attributable risk. We then venture into a broader scope based on his essay, ‘The obvious climate strategy nobody will talk about’, which carries the rest of the discussion into climate targets and bias in climate communication. </p><p>Links: </p><ul><li>Patrick Brown’s <a href='https://patricktbrown.org/about/'>profile</a> </li><li>Patrick’s essay in Foreign Policy: <a href='https://foreignpolicy.com/2022/11/06/climate-cop27-emissions-adaptation-development-energy-africa-developing-countries-global-south/'>The obvious climate strategy nobody will talk about </a></li><li>His paper in PLOS, &apos;Approximate calculations of the <a href='https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0239520'>net economic impact</a> of global warming mitigation targets...&apos; </li><li>Another article on <a href='https://thebreakthrough.org/issues/energy/human-deaths-from-hot-and-cold-temperatures-and-implications-for-climate-change'>heat deaths versus cold deaths </a></li></ul><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/challengingclimate">Support the show</a></p><p><a href='https://mailchi.mp/cb62b666e3c5/challenging-climate'>Subscribe for email updates</a></p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dr Patrick Brown is the Co-director of the Climate &amp; Energy group at the Breakthrough Institute and Adjunct lecturer in Energy Policy &amp; Climate at Johns Hopkins University. In this episode, we discuss Patrick’s expertise on the economic impacts of extreme weather, and unpack trends and attributable risk. We then venture into a broader scope based on his essay, ‘The obvious climate strategy nobody will talk about’, which carries the rest of the discussion into climate targets and bias in climate communication. </p><p>Links: </p><ul><li>Patrick Brown’s <a href='https://patricktbrown.org/about/'>profile</a> </li><li>Patrick’s essay in Foreign Policy: <a href='https://foreignpolicy.com/2022/11/06/climate-cop27-emissions-adaptation-development-energy-africa-developing-countries-global-south/'>The obvious climate strategy nobody will talk about </a></li><li>His paper in PLOS, &apos;Approximate calculations of the <a href='https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0239520'>net economic impact</a> of global warming mitigation targets...&apos; </li><li>Another article on <a href='https://thebreakthrough.org/issues/energy/human-deaths-from-hot-and-cold-temperatures-and-implications-for-climate-change'>heat deaths versus cold deaths </a></li></ul><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/challengingclimate">Support the show</a></p><p><a href='https://mailchi.mp/cb62b666e3c5/challenging-climate'>Subscribe for email updates</a></p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Our guests are Dr Glen Peters, the research director for the Climate Mitigation group at Center for International Climate Research (CICERO), and Dr Linda Steg, Professor of Environmental Psychology at the University of Groningen.   In light of the recent COP27 hosted in Sharm el Sheikh, we pose the question: is the 1.5 Celsius goal still alive? In this episode, we dissect this complex question from the model-driven approach of Peters’ research, as well as from the angle of societal and b...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p>Our guests are Dr Glen Peters, the research director for the Climate Mitigation group at Center for International Climate Research (CICERO), and Dr Linda Steg, Professor of Environmental Psychology at the University of Groningen.  </p><p>In light of the recent COP27 hosted in Sharm el Sheikh, we pose the question: is the 1.5 Celsius goal still alive? In this episode, we dissect this complex question from the model-driven approach of Peters’ research, as well as from the angle of societal and behavioural change — Steg’s expertise. Covering climate anxiety, venture capitalists and CDR, this episode’s got it all. </p><p><br/>Links: </p><ul><li>Glen’s <a href='https://cicero.oslo.no/en/employees/glen-peters'>profile</a>  </li><li>Linda’s <a href='https://www.rug.nl/about-ug/latest-news/press-information/scientists-in-focus/lsteg?lang=en'>profile</a>  </li><li><a href='https://phys.org/news/2022-11-dont-abandon-15c-limit-paris.html'>Interview</a> with Laurence Tubiana on 1.5ºC overshoot</li></ul><p>Glen&apos;s articles:</p><ul><li><a href='https://cicero.oslo.no/en/articles/can-we-really-limit-global-warming-to-well-below-two-degrees-centigrade'>&apos;Can we really limit global warming to &quot;well below&quot; two degrees centigrade?&apos;</a></li></ul><p>Linda&apos;s articles:</p><ul><li><a href='https://www.nature.com/articles/s41558-018-0269-8'>&apos;Limiting climate change requires research on climate action&apos; </a></li><li><a href='https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2590332219300065'>&apos;Motivating Society-wide Pro-environmental Change&apos;</a></li><li><a href='https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S2590332222004298'>&apos;A Spiral on (in)action&apos;</a></li></ul><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/challengingclimate">Support the show</a></p><p><a href='https://mailchi.mp/cb62b666e3c5/challenging-climate'>Subscribe for email updates</a></p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Our guests are Dr Glen Peters, the research director for the Climate Mitigation group at Center for International Climate Research (CICERO), and Dr Linda Steg, Professor of Environmental Psychology at the University of Groningen.  </p><p>In light of the recent COP27 hosted in Sharm el Sheikh, we pose the question: is the 1.5 Celsius goal still alive? In this episode, we dissect this complex question from the model-driven approach of Peters’ research, as well as from the angle of societal and behavioural change — Steg’s expertise. Covering climate anxiety, venture capitalists and CDR, this episode’s got it all. </p><p><br/>Links: </p><ul><li>Glen’s <a href='https://cicero.oslo.no/en/employees/glen-peters'>profile</a>  </li><li>Linda’s <a href='https://www.rug.nl/about-ug/latest-news/press-information/scientists-in-focus/lsteg?lang=en'>profile</a>  </li><li><a href='https://phys.org/news/2022-11-dont-abandon-15c-limit-paris.html'>Interview</a> with Laurence Tubiana on 1.5ºC overshoot</li></ul><p>Glen&apos;s articles:</p><ul><li><a href='https://cicero.oslo.no/en/articles/can-we-really-limit-global-warming-to-well-below-two-degrees-centigrade'>&apos;Can we really limit global warming to &quot;well below&quot; two degrees centigrade?&apos;</a></li></ul><p>Linda&apos;s articles:</p><ul><li><a href='https://www.nature.com/articles/s41558-018-0269-8'>&apos;Limiting climate change requires research on climate action&apos; </a></li><li><a href='https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2590332219300065'>&apos;Motivating Society-wide Pro-environmental Change&apos;</a></li><li><a href='https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S2590332222004298'>&apos;A Spiral on (in)action&apos;</a></li></ul><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/challengingclimate">Support the show</a></p><p><a href='https://mailchi.mp/cb62b666e3c5/challenging-climate'>Subscribe for email updates</a></p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <itunes:title>23. Luke Kemp on defining, evaluating and managing catastrophic climate risk </itunes:title>
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    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Dr Luke Kemp is a Research Associate at the Centre for the Study of Existential Risk, University of Cambridge. He has a PhD in international relations from the ANU and previous experience as a senior economist at Vivid Economics. In this episode, Luke sheds light on a surprisingly understudied and overlooked topic – catastrophic climate risk. This episode explores catastrophic and extinction risk, why the topic is understudied, and how we can weigh out the catastrophic risks of climate change...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p>Dr Luke Kemp is a Research Associate at the Centre for the Study of Existential Risk, University of Cambridge. He has a PhD in international relations from the ANU and previous experience as a senior economist at Vivid Economics. In this episode, Luke sheds light on a surprisingly understudied and overlooked topic – catastrophic climate risk. This episode explores catastrophic and extinction risk, why the topic is understudied, and how we can weigh out the catastrophic risks of climate change and solar geo-engineering. <br/><br/></p><p> Links: </p><ul><li>Luke Kemp’s <a href='https://www.cser.ac.uk/team/luke-kemp/'>profile</a> </li><li>Check out Luke’s paper, <a href='https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.2108146119'>Climate Endgame: Exploring catastrophic climate change scenarios</a></li><li>Luke&apos;s paper on the risky perspective shift in temperature rises: <a href='https://agupubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1029/2022EF002876'>Focus of the IPCC Assessment Reports has shifted to lower temperatures</a>  </li><li>Cambridge release, Climate change: potential to end humanity is “<a href='https://www.cam.ac.uk/stories/climateendgame'>dangerously underexplored</a>”  </li><li>Additional reading: <a href='https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.2214347119'>Catastrophic climate risks should be neither understated nor overstated</a> (Burgess et al., 2022)</li></ul><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/challengingclimate">Support the show</a></p><p><a href='https://mailchi.mp/cb62b666e3c5/challenging-climate'>Subscribe for email updates</a></p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dr Luke Kemp is a Research Associate at the Centre for the Study of Existential Risk, University of Cambridge. He has a PhD in international relations from the ANU and previous experience as a senior economist at Vivid Economics. In this episode, Luke sheds light on a surprisingly understudied and overlooked topic – catastrophic climate risk. This episode explores catastrophic and extinction risk, why the topic is understudied, and how we can weigh out the catastrophic risks of climate change and solar geo-engineering. <br/><br/></p><p> Links: </p><ul><li>Luke Kemp’s <a href='https://www.cser.ac.uk/team/luke-kemp/'>profile</a> </li><li>Check out Luke’s paper, <a href='https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.2108146119'>Climate Endgame: Exploring catastrophic climate change scenarios</a></li><li>Luke&apos;s paper on the risky perspective shift in temperature rises: <a href='https://agupubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1029/2022EF002876'>Focus of the IPCC Assessment Reports has shifted to lower temperatures</a>  </li><li>Cambridge release, Climate change: potential to end humanity is “<a href='https://www.cam.ac.uk/stories/climateendgame'>dangerously underexplored</a>”  </li><li>Additional reading: <a href='https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.2214347119'>Catastrophic climate risks should be neither understated nor overstated</a> (Burgess et al., 2022)</li></ul><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/challengingclimate">Support the show</a></p><p><a href='https://mailchi.mp/cb62b666e3c5/challenging-climate'>Subscribe for email updates</a></p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <itunes:title>22. Oliver Morton on reaching net zero, and the feasibility and politics of geoengineering</itunes:title>
    <title>22. Oliver Morton on reaching net zero, and the feasibility and politics of geoengineering</title>
    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Oliver Morton is The Economist’s briefings editor, specializing in the energy business, climate science and policy, and other green issues. He is the author of The Planet Remade: How Geoengineering Could Change the World and most recently The Moon: A History for the Future. In this episode, we discuss ideas from The Planet Remade on climate change and how recent events have influenced our prospects of reaching net zero emissions, as well as tackle serious questions on deploying geoengineering...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p>Oliver Morton is The Economist’s briefings editor, specializing in the energy business, climate science and policy, and other green issues. He is the author of <em>The Planet Remade: How Geoengineering Could Change the World </em>and most recently <em>The Moon: A History for the Future. </em>In this episode, we discuss ideas from <em>The Planet Remade </em>on climate change and how recent events have influenced our prospects of reaching net zero emissions, as well as tackle serious questions on deploying geoengineering to combat climate change.<br/><br/>Links:</p><ul><li>Oliver’s <a href='https://mediadirectory.economist.com/people/oliver-morton/'>profile</a> </li><li>Oliver’s new book, <a href='https://www.amazon.co.uk/Moon-History-Future-Economist-Books/dp/1541774329'>The Moon: A History for the Future</a> </li><li><a href='https://www.amazon.co.uk/Planet-Remade-Geoengineering-Could-Change/dp/1783780959'>The Planet Remade: How Geoengineering Could Change the World </a></li></ul><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/challengingclimate">Support the show</a></p><p><a href='https://mailchi.mp/cb62b666e3c5/challenging-climate'>Subscribe for email updates</a></p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oliver Morton is The Economist’s briefings editor, specializing in the energy business, climate science and policy, and other green issues. He is the author of <em>The Planet Remade: How Geoengineering Could Change the World </em>and most recently <em>The Moon: A History for the Future. </em>In this episode, we discuss ideas from <em>The Planet Remade </em>on climate change and how recent events have influenced our prospects of reaching net zero emissions, as well as tackle serious questions on deploying geoengineering to combat climate change.<br/><br/>Links:</p><ul><li>Oliver’s <a href='https://mediadirectory.economist.com/people/oliver-morton/'>profile</a> </li><li>Oliver’s new book, <a href='https://www.amazon.co.uk/Moon-History-Future-Economist-Books/dp/1541774329'>The Moon: A History for the Future</a> </li><li><a href='https://www.amazon.co.uk/Planet-Remade-Geoengineering-Could-Change/dp/1783780959'>The Planet Remade: How Geoengineering Could Change the World </a></li></ul><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/challengingclimate">Support the show</a></p><p><a href='https://mailchi.mp/cb62b666e3c5/challenging-climate'>Subscribe for email updates</a></p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <itunes:title>21. Ben Novak on Revive &amp; Restore: leveraging biotechnology for de-extinction</itunes:title>
    <title>21. Ben Novak on Revive &amp; Restore: leveraging biotechnology for de-extinction</title>
    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Ben Novak is lead scientist at Revive &amp; Restore, where he leads the de-extinction efforts – especially the group’s restoration of the extinct passenger pigeon. He is also the lead coordinator for its conservation cloning projects and Program Manager for Revive &amp; Restore’s new Biotechnology for Bird Conservation. In this episode, we dive deep into the applications of biotechnology in de-extinction, genetic modification for climate adaptation, and the ethical arguments for and against b...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p>Ben Novak is lead scientist at Revive &amp; Restore, where he leads the de-extinction efforts – especially the group’s restoration of the extinct passenger pigeon. He is also the lead coordinator for its conservation cloning projects and Program Manager for Revive &amp; Restore’s new Biotechnology for Bird Conservation. In this episode, we dive deep into the applications of biotechnology in de-extinction, genetic modification for climate adaptation, and the ethical arguments for and against biotechnology for conservation.  <br/><br/>Links:  </p><ul><li>Ben Novak&apos;s <a href='https://reviverestore.org/about-us/#Ben_Novak'>profile</a>, including more links to his publications!</li><li>Revive and Restore <a href='https://reviverestore.org/'>website</a></li><li><a href='https://conbio.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/csp2.371'>Intended Consequences Statement</a> </li><li>The Great Passenger Pigeon <a href='https://reviverestore.org/about-the-passenger-pigeon/'>Comeback</a></li></ul><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/challengingclimate">Support the show</a></p><p><a href='https://mailchi.mp/cb62b666e3c5/challenging-climate'>Subscribe for email updates</a></p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ben Novak is lead scientist at Revive &amp; Restore, where he leads the de-extinction efforts – especially the group’s restoration of the extinct passenger pigeon. He is also the lead coordinator for its conservation cloning projects and Program Manager for Revive &amp; Restore’s new Biotechnology for Bird Conservation. In this episode, we dive deep into the applications of biotechnology in de-extinction, genetic modification for climate adaptation, and the ethical arguments for and against biotechnology for conservation.  <br/><br/>Links:  </p><ul><li>Ben Novak&apos;s <a href='https://reviverestore.org/about-us/#Ben_Novak'>profile</a>, including more links to his publications!</li><li>Revive and Restore <a href='https://reviverestore.org/'>website</a></li><li><a href='https://conbio.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/csp2.371'>Intended Consequences Statement</a> </li><li>The Great Passenger Pigeon <a href='https://reviverestore.org/about-the-passenger-pigeon/'>Comeback</a></li></ul><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/challengingclimate">Support the show</a></p><p><a href='https://mailchi.mp/cb62b666e3c5/challenging-climate'>Subscribe for email updates</a></p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <itunes:title>20. Gaia Vince on Nomad Century: migration, food and geo-engineering</itunes:title>
    <title>20. Gaia Vince on Nomad Century: migration, food and geo-engineering</title>
    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Gaia Vince is an award-winning science journalist, author, broadcaster and speaker. In this episode, we discuss her new book Nomad Century: How to Survive the Climate Upheaval. Vince gives insight on how humanity can plan for and manage an unavoidable climate migration. We also explore methods to restore the planet to a fully habitable state, such as stratospheric sulfate aerosol injection and iron fertilization of the oceans.   Links:   Gaia’s website Check out Gaia's new book...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p>Gaia Vince is an award-winning science journalist, author, broadcaster and speaker. In this episode, we discuss her new book <em>Nomad Century: How to Survive the Climate Upheaval</em>. Vince gives insight on how humanity can plan for and manage an unavoidable climate migration. We also explore methods to restore the planet to a fully habitable state, such as stratospheric sulfate aerosol injection and iron fertilization of the oceans. <br/><br/>Links:  </p><ul><li><a href='https://wanderinggaia.com/'>Gaia’s website</a> </li><li>Check out Gaia&apos;s new book: <a href='https://wanderinggaia.com/2022/07/01/announcing-nomad-century/'><em>Nomad Century</em></a><em> </em></li><li>Check out Gaia’s other books: <a href='https://wanderinggaia.com/book/transcendence/'><em>Transcendence</em></a><em>  </em></li><li>And <a href='https://wanderinggaia.com/book/adventures-in-the-anthropocene/'><em>Adventures in the Anthropocene</em></a> </li></ul><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/challengingclimate">Support the show</a></p><p><a href='https://mailchi.mp/cb62b666e3c5/challenging-climate'>Subscribe for email updates</a></p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gaia Vince is an award-winning science journalist, author, broadcaster and speaker. In this episode, we discuss her new book <em>Nomad Century: How to Survive the Climate Upheaval</em>. Vince gives insight on how humanity can plan for and manage an unavoidable climate migration. We also explore methods to restore the planet to a fully habitable state, such as stratospheric sulfate aerosol injection and iron fertilization of the oceans. <br/><br/>Links:  </p><ul><li><a href='https://wanderinggaia.com/'>Gaia’s website</a> </li><li>Check out Gaia&apos;s new book: <a href='https://wanderinggaia.com/2022/07/01/announcing-nomad-century/'><em>Nomad Century</em></a><em> </em></li><li>Check out Gaia’s other books: <a href='https://wanderinggaia.com/book/transcendence/'><em>Transcendence</em></a><em>  </em></li><li>And <a href='https://wanderinggaia.com/book/adventures-in-the-anthropocene/'><em>Adventures in the Anthropocene</em></a> </li></ul><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/challengingclimate">Support the show</a></p><p><a href='https://mailchi.mp/cb62b666e3c5/challenging-climate'>Subscribe for email updates</a></p>]]></content:encoded>
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  <psc:chapter start="3:29" title="Introducing Gaia’s new book: Nomad Century" />
  <psc:chapter start="5:15" title="Impacts of human migration" />
  <psc:chapter start="14:58" title="Migration policy, Brexit, xenophobia in Japan " />
  <psc:chapter start="31:05" title="Agriculture and alternative food sources" />
  <psc:chapter start="36:28" title="Relationship between economic growth and climate change" />
  <psc:chapter start="40:02" title="Carbon removal and geoengineering" />
  <psc:chapter start="44:38" title="Why is there strong opposition to SRM?" />
  <psc:chapter start="48:52" title="What gives you optimism for the future?" />
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    <itunes:title>19. Kerry Emanuel on hurricanes and hypercanes in a warming world </itunes:title>
    <title>19. Kerry Emanuel on hurricanes and hypercanes in a warming world </title>
    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Professor Kerry Emanuel is a prominent meteorologist and climate scientist working at the Department of Earth, Atmospheric and Planetary Sciences at MIT. His research focuses on tropical meteorology and climate, with a specialty in hurricane physics. In this episode, we spoke with Kerry about what distinguishes a hurricane from tropical storms and tornadoes, and the dangers these natural hazards pose to societies. We also cover how these threats will evolve in an increasingly warming world, a...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p>Professor Kerry Emanuel is a prominent meteorologist and climate scientist working at the Department of Earth, Atmospheric and Planetary Sciences at MIT. His research focuses on tropical meteorology and climate, with a specialty in hurricane physics. In this episode, we spoke with Kerry about what distinguishes a hurricane from tropical storms and tornadoes, and the dangers these natural hazards pose to societies. We also cover how these threats will evolve in an increasingly warming world, and what a hypercane is.<br/><br/>Links:  </p><ul><li>Kerry Emanuel&apos;s <a href='https://eapsweb.mit.edu/news/2022/Kerry-Emanuel-a-climate-scientist-and-meteorologist-in-the-eye-of-the-storm'>profile</a> </li><li>Kerry&apos;s <a href='https://emanuel.mit.edu/'>website</a></li><li><a href='https://www.carbonbrief.org/new-study-offers-different-take-on-the-future-of-tropical-cyclones/'>Carbon brief</a> on a new study showing hurricanes strengthening and intensifying </li><li>Kerry&apos;s book, <a href='https://www.amazon.co.uk/Divine-Wind-History-Science-Hurricanes/dp/0195149416'>Divine Wind: The History and Science of Hurricanes</a></li></ul><p>Further information on hurricane impacts</p><ul><li><a href='https://ourworldindata.org/natural-disasters'>Fewer deaths in tropical storms in recent decades</a></li><li><a href='https://www.nature.com/articles/s41893-018-0165-2'>Economic impacts</a> of hurricanes</li><li>The <a href='https://texmex.mit.edu/pub/emanuel/PAPERS/hypercane95.pdf'>hypercane</a> </li><li><a href='https://www.nature.com/articles/s41893-018-0165-2'>Normalized hurricane damage</a> has not changed </li></ul><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/challengingclimate">Support the show</a></p><p><a href='https://mailchi.mp/cb62b666e3c5/challenging-climate'>Subscribe for email updates</a></p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Professor Kerry Emanuel is a prominent meteorologist and climate scientist working at the Department of Earth, Atmospheric and Planetary Sciences at MIT. His research focuses on tropical meteorology and climate, with a specialty in hurricane physics. In this episode, we spoke with Kerry about what distinguishes a hurricane from tropical storms and tornadoes, and the dangers these natural hazards pose to societies. We also cover how these threats will evolve in an increasingly warming world, and what a hypercane is.<br/><br/>Links:  </p><ul><li>Kerry Emanuel&apos;s <a href='https://eapsweb.mit.edu/news/2022/Kerry-Emanuel-a-climate-scientist-and-meteorologist-in-the-eye-of-the-storm'>profile</a> </li><li>Kerry&apos;s <a href='https://emanuel.mit.edu/'>website</a></li><li><a href='https://www.carbonbrief.org/new-study-offers-different-take-on-the-future-of-tropical-cyclones/'>Carbon brief</a> on a new study showing hurricanes strengthening and intensifying </li><li>Kerry&apos;s book, <a href='https://www.amazon.co.uk/Divine-Wind-History-Science-Hurricanes/dp/0195149416'>Divine Wind: The History and Science of Hurricanes</a></li></ul><p>Further information on hurricane impacts</p><ul><li><a href='https://ourworldindata.org/natural-disasters'>Fewer deaths in tropical storms in recent decades</a></li><li><a href='https://www.nature.com/articles/s41893-018-0165-2'>Economic impacts</a> of hurricanes</li><li>The <a href='https://texmex.mit.edu/pub/emanuel/PAPERS/hypercane95.pdf'>hypercane</a> </li><li><a href='https://www.nature.com/articles/s41893-018-0165-2'>Normalized hurricane damage</a> has not changed </li></ul><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/challengingclimate">Support the show</a></p><p><a href='https://mailchi.mp/cb62b666e3c5/challenging-climate'>Subscribe for email updates</a></p>]]></content:encoded>
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  <psc:chapter start="21:45" title="Why is the death toll of storms falling?" />
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  <psc:chapter start="41:07" title="What is a hypercane?" />
  <psc:chapter start="44:07" title="What gives you optimism for the future?" />
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    <itunes:title>18. Arunabha Ghosh on CEEW and India&#39;s environmental challenges</itunes:title>
    <title>18. Arunabha Ghosh on CEEW and India&#39;s environmental challenges</title>
    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Dr Arunabha Ghosh is the founder-CEO of the Council on Energy, Environment and Water, and has led CEEW to the top ranks as one of Asia's leading policy research institutions and among the world’s 20 best climate think-tanks. In this episode, we discuss the work that CEEW is involved in and dive deep into the environmental challenges that developing countries, such as India, face.     Links:   Council on Energy, Environment and WaterArunabha Ghosh’s profileSupport the show Subsc...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p>Dr Arunabha Ghosh is the founder-CEO of the Council on Energy, Environment and Water, and has led CEEW to the top ranks as one of Asia&apos;s leading policy research institutions and among the world’s 20 best climate think-tanks. In this episode, we discuss the work that CEEW is involved in and dive deep into the environmental challenges that developing countries, such as India, face.   <br/><br/>Links:  </p><ul><li><a href='https://www.ceew.in/ '>Council on Energy, Environment and Water</a></li><li>Arunabha Ghosh’s <a href='https://www.ceew.in/arunabha-ghosh'>profile</a></li></ul><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/challengingclimate">Support the show</a></p><p><a href='https://mailchi.mp/cb62b666e3c5/challenging-climate'>Subscribe for email updates</a></p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dr Arunabha Ghosh is the founder-CEO of the Council on Energy, Environment and Water, and has led CEEW to the top ranks as one of Asia&apos;s leading policy research institutions and among the world’s 20 best climate think-tanks. In this episode, we discuss the work that CEEW is involved in and dive deep into the environmental challenges that developing countries, such as India, face.   <br/><br/>Links:  </p><ul><li><a href='https://www.ceew.in/ '>Council on Energy, Environment and Water</a></li><li>Arunabha Ghosh’s <a href='https://www.ceew.in/arunabha-ghosh'>profile</a></li></ul><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/challengingclimate">Support the show</a></p><p><a href='https://mailchi.mp/cb62b666e3c5/challenging-climate'>Subscribe for email updates</a></p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <itunes:author>Jesse Reynolds and Pete Irvine </itunes:author>
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    <pubDate>Tue, 06 Sep 2022 09:00:00 +0200</pubDate>
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  <psc:chapter start="2:59" title="What is CEEW?" />
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  <psc:chapter start="10:37" title="What are the environmental challenges faced by developing countries? How do they differ from that of more developed countries? " />
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  <psc:chapter start="21:05" title="What should we do about fossil fuel subsidies?" />
  <psc:chapter start="25:41" title="Environmental politics in India" />
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    <itunes:title>17. Tom Matthews on tropical glaciers and extreme heat</itunes:title>
    <title>17. Tom Matthews on tropical glaciers and extreme heat</title>
    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Dr Tom Matthews is a climate scientist at King’s College London, specialising in glacier-climate interactions and extreme weather. In Episode 17, we discuss Tom’s exciting fieldwork on Mt. Everest co-installing the highest-altitude weather stations in the world, as well as extreme heat and its impacts on society.   Links:   Tom Matthews’ profile Two articles on Tom’s expedition to Mt Everest: this and that  Wikipedia page on penitentesCheck out this article on the upper te...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p>Dr Tom Matthews is a climate scientist at King’s College London, specialising in glacier-climate interactions and extreme weather. In Episode 17, we discuss Tom’s exciting fieldwork on Mt. Everest co-installing the highest-altitude weather stations in the world, as well as extreme heat and its impacts on society. <br/><br/>Links:  </p><ul><li>Tom Matthews’ <a href='https://www.kcl.ac.uk/people/tom-matthews '>profile</a> </li><li>Two articles on Tom’s expedition to Mt Everest: <a href='https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2590332220305510'>this</a> and <a href='https://journals.ametsoc.org/view/journals/bams/101/11/bamsD190198.xml?tab_body=fulltext-display '>that</a>  </li><li>Wikipedia page on <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penitente_(snow_formation'>penitentes</a></li><li>Check out this article on the <a href='https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.0913352107'>upper temperature limit of human tolerance</a> and Tom’s paper <a href='https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/sciadv.aaw1838'>documenting the first occurrences of this temperature</a> </li><li>Check out these 3 articles on extreme heat in Asia: <a href='https://www.nature.com/articles/nclimate2833?source=post_page--------------------------- '>this</a> and <a href='https://www.science.org/doi/full/10.1126/sciadv.1603322'>that</a> and <a href='https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-018-05252-y'>this other one</a></li><li>The book discussed: <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Ministry_for_the_Future'>The Ministry for the Future </a></li></ul><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/challengingclimate">Support the show</a></p><p><a href='https://mailchi.mp/cb62b666e3c5/challenging-climate'>Subscribe for email updates</a></p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dr Tom Matthews is a climate scientist at King’s College London, specialising in glacier-climate interactions and extreme weather. In Episode 17, we discuss Tom’s exciting fieldwork on Mt. Everest co-installing the highest-altitude weather stations in the world, as well as extreme heat and its impacts on society. <br/><br/>Links:  </p><ul><li>Tom Matthews’ <a href='https://www.kcl.ac.uk/people/tom-matthews '>profile</a> </li><li>Two articles on Tom’s expedition to Mt Everest: <a href='https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2590332220305510'>this</a> and <a href='https://journals.ametsoc.org/view/journals/bams/101/11/bamsD190198.xml?tab_body=fulltext-display '>that</a>  </li><li>Wikipedia page on <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penitente_(snow_formation'>penitentes</a></li><li>Check out this article on the <a href='https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.0913352107'>upper temperature limit of human tolerance</a> and Tom’s paper <a href='https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/sciadv.aaw1838'>documenting the first occurrences of this temperature</a> </li><li>Check out these 3 articles on extreme heat in Asia: <a href='https://www.nature.com/articles/nclimate2833?source=post_page--------------------------- '>this</a> and <a href='https://www.science.org/doi/full/10.1126/sciadv.1603322'>that</a> and <a href='https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-018-05252-y'>this other one</a></li><li>The book discussed: <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Ministry_for_the_Future'>The Ministry for the Future </a></li></ul><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/challengingclimate">Support the show</a></p><p><a href='https://mailchi.mp/cb62b666e3c5/challenging-climate'>Subscribe for email updates</a></p>]]></content:encoded>
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  <psc:chapter start="47:37" title="How can societies adapt to extreme heat?" />
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    <itunes:title>16. Hannah Ritchie on Our World in Data and some of the world&#39;s biggest problems</itunes:title>
    <title>16. Hannah Ritchie on Our World in Data and some of the world&#39;s biggest problems</title>
    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Dr Hannah Ritchie is a Senior Researcher at the Oxford Martin Programme in Global Development and the Head of Research at Our World in Data. In this episode, we spoke with Hannah about her work at Our World in Data and her article, "Stop Telling Kids They’ll Die From Climate Change". We discuss her thoughts on what some of the world's most pressing problems are, touching on topics such as agriculture, the link between meat consumption and poverty, education and more.  Links: Hannah Ritchie’s ...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p>Dr Hannah Ritchie is a Senior Researcher at the Oxford Martin Programme in Global Development and the Head of Research at Our World in Data. In this episode, we spoke with Hannah about her work at Our World in Data and her article, &quot;Stop Telling Kids They’ll Die From Climate Change&quot;. We discuss her thoughts on what some of the world&apos;s most pressing problems are, touching on topics such as agriculture, the link between meat consumption and poverty, education and more.<br/><br/>Links:</p><ul><li>Hannah Ritchie’s <a href='https://hannahritchie.com/'>profile</a></li><li>Hannah&apos;s article, &quot;<a href='https://www.wired.co.uk/article/climate-crisis-doom'>Stop Telling Kids They’ll Die From Climate Change</a>&quot;</li><li>The world’s biggest problem: <a href='https://ourworldindata.org/africa-yields-problem'>Agriculture</a> (check out the data <a href='https://ourworldindata.org/explorers/global-food?tab=chart&amp;facet=none&amp;Food=Wheat&amp;Metric=Yield&amp;Per+Capita=false&amp;country=MEX~IND~PAK'>here</a>)</li><li>Here’s an <a href='https://ourworldindata.org/food-choice-vs-eating-local '>article</a> on meat consumption and climate change by Hannah </li><li>And <a href='https://ourworldindata.org/vegetarian-vegan '>another one</a> </li><li><a href='https://www.gapminder.org/dollar-street '>Dollar Street Gapminder</a></li></ul><p><br/>Definitely check out these Our World In Data articles as well: <a href='https://www.gapminder.org/dollar-street '> </a></p><ul><li><a href='https://ourworldindata.org/co2-gdp-decoupling'>Decoupling</a> of GDP and carbon emissions</li><li>Carbon dioxide <a href='https://ourworldindata.org/explorers/co2?time=2019&amp;facet=none&amp;country=USA~European+Union+%2827%29~GBR~DEU~CAN~AUS~FRA~SWE~NOR~ESP~DNK~CHE~ITA~FIN&amp;Gas=CO%E2%82%82&amp;Accounting=Production-based&amp;Fuel=Total&amp;Count=Per+capita&amp;Relative+to+world+total=true'>Data Explorer</a></li><li><a href='https://ourworldindata.org/economic-growth '>Economic growth</a> in low- and middle-income countries </li><li>Global improvements in <a href='https://ourworldindata.org/better-learning '>quality of education</a></li></ul><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/challengingclimate">Support the show</a></p><p><a href='https://mailchi.mp/cb62b666e3c5/challenging-climate'>Subscribe for email updates</a></p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dr Hannah Ritchie is a Senior Researcher at the Oxford Martin Programme in Global Development and the Head of Research at Our World in Data. In this episode, we spoke with Hannah about her work at Our World in Data and her article, &quot;Stop Telling Kids They’ll Die From Climate Change&quot;. We discuss her thoughts on what some of the world&apos;s most pressing problems are, touching on topics such as agriculture, the link between meat consumption and poverty, education and more.<br/><br/>Links:</p><ul><li>Hannah Ritchie’s <a href='https://hannahritchie.com/'>profile</a></li><li>Hannah&apos;s article, &quot;<a href='https://www.wired.co.uk/article/climate-crisis-doom'>Stop Telling Kids They’ll Die From Climate Change</a>&quot;</li><li>The world’s biggest problem: <a href='https://ourworldindata.org/africa-yields-problem'>Agriculture</a> (check out the data <a href='https://ourworldindata.org/explorers/global-food?tab=chart&amp;facet=none&amp;Food=Wheat&amp;Metric=Yield&amp;Per+Capita=false&amp;country=MEX~IND~PAK'>here</a>)</li><li>Here’s an <a href='https://ourworldindata.org/food-choice-vs-eating-local '>article</a> on meat consumption and climate change by Hannah </li><li>And <a href='https://ourworldindata.org/vegetarian-vegan '>another one</a> </li><li><a href='https://www.gapminder.org/dollar-street '>Dollar Street Gapminder</a></li></ul><p><br/>Definitely check out these Our World In Data articles as well: <a href='https://www.gapminder.org/dollar-street '> </a></p><ul><li><a href='https://ourworldindata.org/co2-gdp-decoupling'>Decoupling</a> of GDP and carbon emissions</li><li>Carbon dioxide <a href='https://ourworldindata.org/explorers/co2?time=2019&amp;facet=none&amp;country=USA~European+Union+%2827%29~GBR~DEU~CAN~AUS~FRA~SWE~NOR~ESP~DNK~CHE~ITA~FIN&amp;Gas=CO%E2%82%82&amp;Accounting=Production-based&amp;Fuel=Total&amp;Count=Per+capita&amp;Relative+to+world+total=true'>Data Explorer</a></li><li><a href='https://ourworldindata.org/economic-growth '>Economic growth</a> in low- and middle-income countries </li><li>Global improvements in <a href='https://ourworldindata.org/better-learning '>quality of education</a></li></ul><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/challengingclimate">Support the show</a></p><p><a href='https://mailchi.mp/cb62b666e3c5/challenging-climate'>Subscribe for email updates</a></p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <itunes:title>15. Dagomar Degroot on Historical Climatology and the Frigid Golden Age</itunes:title>
    <title>15. Dagomar Degroot on Historical Climatology and the Frigid Golden Age</title>
    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Dagomar Degroot is an associate professor of environmental history at Georgetown University. In this episode, we spoke with Dagomar about historical climatology and how the past can inform us about contemporary climate change. We cover his book, The Frigid Golden Age, and why societies like the Dutch and Thule thrived while the Norse suffered when the climate changed. Dagomar also addresses existing biases in the field of historical climatology.  Links:  Dagomar Degroot’s profile &n...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p>Dagomar Degroot is an associate professor of environmental history at Georgetown University. In this episode, we spoke with Dagomar about historical climatology and how the past can inform us about contemporary climate change. We cover his book, The Frigid Golden Age, and why societies like the Dutch and Thule thrived while the Norse suffered when the climate changed. Dagomar also addresses existing biases in the field of historical climatology. </p><p>Links: </p><ul><li>Dagomar Degroot’s <a href='https://www.dagomardegroot.com/'>profile</a>  </li><li>Historical climatology <a href='https://www.historicalclimatology.com/ '>website</a> </li><li>Dagomar’s book, <a href='https://www.cambridge.org/core/books/frigid-golden-age/FD88D1B4AFA571C02A33D34B65484928'>The Frigid Golden Age</a>  </li><li>The Nature <a href='https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-021-03190-2.epdf'>article</a> outlining the baises in History of Climate and Society </li><li>Another <a href='https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/10/07/our-planet-is-not-doomed-that-means-we-can-must-act/'>article</a> by Dagomar on The Washington Post, “Our planet is not doomed. That means we can, and must, act.”  </li></ul><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/challengingclimate">Support the show</a></p><p><a href='https://mailchi.mp/cb62b666e3c5/challenging-climate'>Subscribe for email updates</a></p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dagomar Degroot is an associate professor of environmental history at Georgetown University. In this episode, we spoke with Dagomar about historical climatology and how the past can inform us about contemporary climate change. We cover his book, The Frigid Golden Age, and why societies like the Dutch and Thule thrived while the Norse suffered when the climate changed. Dagomar also addresses existing biases in the field of historical climatology. </p><p>Links: </p><ul><li>Dagomar Degroot’s <a href='https://www.dagomardegroot.com/'>profile</a>  </li><li>Historical climatology <a href='https://www.historicalclimatology.com/ '>website</a> </li><li>Dagomar’s book, <a href='https://www.cambridge.org/core/books/frigid-golden-age/FD88D1B4AFA571C02A33D34B65484928'>The Frigid Golden Age</a>  </li><li>The Nature <a href='https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-021-03190-2.epdf'>article</a> outlining the baises in History of Climate and Society </li><li>Another <a href='https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/10/07/our-planet-is-not-doomed-that-means-we-can-must-act/'>article</a> by Dagomar on The Washington Post, “Our planet is not doomed. That means we can, and must, act.”  </li></ul><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/challengingclimate">Support the show</a></p><p><a href='https://mailchi.mp/cb62b666e3c5/challenging-climate'>Subscribe for email updates</a></p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <itunes:author>Jesse Reynolds and Pete Irvine </itunes:author>
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  <psc:chapter start="2:34" title="Introduction and background" />
  <psc:chapter start="5:13" title="What is historical climatology?" />
  <psc:chapter start="11:26" title="Can climate change cause human conflict?" />
  <psc:chapter start="17:16" title="The evolution of historical climatology, criticisms and biases" />
  <psc:chapter start="28:26" title="The Frigid Golden Age: War, culture and innovation" />
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  <psc:chapter start="55:08" title="Our planet is not doomed... is it?" />
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    <itunes:title>14. Nils Gilman on avocado politics and climate security</itunes:title>
    <title>14. Nils Gilman on avocado politics and climate security</title>
    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Dr. Nils Gilman is the Senior Vice President of Programs at the Berggruen Institute and the deputy editor of Noema Magazine. We speak with Nils about two of his popular articles, "The Coming Avocado Politics" and "The Guns of Warming".  We first discuss avocado politics, what it is and how it manifests in the United States and Europe. The second half of the episode takes a look at climate change and security on global and national scales, and what it really means to prioritize climate ch...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p>Dr. Nils Gilman is the Senior Vice President of Programs at the Berggruen Institute and the deputy editor of Noema Magazine. We speak with Nils about two of his popular articles, &quot;The Coming Avocado Politics&quot; and &quot;The Guns of Warming&quot;.  We first discuss avocado politics, what it is and how it manifests in the United States and Europe. The second half of the episode takes a look at climate change and security on global and national scales, and what it really means to prioritize climate change on the political agenda. </p><p>Links: </p><ul><li>Nils Gilman’s <a href='https://www.berggruen.org/people/nils-gilman/'>profile</a></li><li>Check out <a href='https://www.noemamag.com/author/nils-gilman/ '>Noema Magazine</a> and Nils&apos; article (with Jonathan Blake) on <a href='https://www.noemamag.com/governing-in-the-planetary-age/ '>&quot;Governing in the Planetary Age&quot;</a></li><li>Article by Nils on <a href='https://thebreakthrough.org/journal/no-12-winter-2020/avocado-politics'>“The Coming Avocado Politics”</a> </li><li>The other article by Nils on <a href='https://thebreakthrough.org/journal/no-16-spring-2022/the-guns-of-warming'>“The Guns of Warming”</a></li></ul><p><br/></p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/challengingclimate">Support the show</a></p><p><a href='https://mailchi.mp/cb62b666e3c5/challenging-climate'>Subscribe for email updates</a></p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dr. Nils Gilman is the Senior Vice President of Programs at the Berggruen Institute and the deputy editor of Noema Magazine. We speak with Nils about two of his popular articles, &quot;The Coming Avocado Politics&quot; and &quot;The Guns of Warming&quot;.  We first discuss avocado politics, what it is and how it manifests in the United States and Europe. The second half of the episode takes a look at climate change and security on global and national scales, and what it really means to prioritize climate change on the political agenda. </p><p>Links: </p><ul><li>Nils Gilman’s <a href='https://www.berggruen.org/people/nils-gilman/'>profile</a></li><li>Check out <a href='https://www.noemamag.com/author/nils-gilman/ '>Noema Magazine</a> and Nils&apos; article (with Jonathan Blake) on <a href='https://www.noemamag.com/governing-in-the-planetary-age/ '>&quot;Governing in the Planetary Age&quot;</a></li><li>Article by Nils on <a href='https://thebreakthrough.org/journal/no-12-winter-2020/avocado-politics'>“The Coming Avocado Politics”</a> </li><li>The other article by Nils on <a href='https://thebreakthrough.org/journal/no-16-spring-2022/the-guns-of-warming'>“The Guns of Warming”</a></li></ul><p><br/></p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/challengingclimate">Support the show</a></p><p><a href='https://mailchi.mp/cb62b666e3c5/challenging-climate'>Subscribe for email updates</a></p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <itunes:author>Jesse Reynolds and Pete Irvine </itunes:author>
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    <pubDate>Tue, 12 Jul 2022 09:00:00 +0200</pubDate>
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  <psc:chapter start="3:43" title=" What is avocado politics?" />
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    <itunes:title>13. Britt Wray on Generation Dread and the rise of eco-anxiety</itunes:title>
    <title>13. Britt Wray on Generation Dread and the rise of eco-anxiety</title>
    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Dr Britt Wray is an author and researcher working at the forefront of climate change and mental health. She is currently a Human and Planetary Health Fellow at Stanford University and the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine. Britt’s research focuses on the mental health impacts of the climate crisis and has published popular books such as Rise of the Necrofauna: The Science, Ethics and Risks of De-Extinction, and Generation Dread: Finding Purpose in an Age of Climate Crisis.  ...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p>Dr Britt Wray is an author and researcher working at the forefront of climate change and mental health. She is currently a Human and Planetary Health Fellow at Stanford University and the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine. Britt’s research focuses on the mental health impacts of the climate crisis and has published popular books such as Rise of the Necrofauna: The Science, Ethics and Risks of De-Extinction, and Generation Dread: Finding Purpose in an Age of Climate Crisis. </p><p>In this episode, we spoke with Britt about eco-anxiety, how it can affect our mental health and daily lives, and how we can cope and find optimism. We began by diving into the trends in eco-anxiety across demographics and over time. We also discussed the role of media in propelling eco-anxiety and why sentiments of the general public differ from climate experts. </p><p> Links: </p><ul><li>Britt Wray’s <a href='https://www.brittwray.com/'>website</a> </li><li>Britt&apos;s <a href='https://www.brittwray.com/books'>books</a>: Generation Dread and Rise of the Necrofauna</li><li>Gen Dread <a href='https://gendread.substack.com/'>newsletter</a> (free subscription!)</li><li>The <a href='https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2542519621002783'>Hickman et al. (2021)</a> paper on a global survey on climate anxiety in children and youth and their perception of government responses to climate change</li></ul><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/challengingclimate">Support the show</a></p><p><a href='https://mailchi.mp/cb62b666e3c5/challenging-climate'>Subscribe for email updates</a></p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dr Britt Wray is an author and researcher working at the forefront of climate change and mental health. She is currently a Human and Planetary Health Fellow at Stanford University and the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine. Britt’s research focuses on the mental health impacts of the climate crisis and has published popular books such as Rise of the Necrofauna: The Science, Ethics and Risks of De-Extinction, and Generation Dread: Finding Purpose in an Age of Climate Crisis. </p><p>In this episode, we spoke with Britt about eco-anxiety, how it can affect our mental health and daily lives, and how we can cope and find optimism. We began by diving into the trends in eco-anxiety across demographics and over time. We also discussed the role of media in propelling eco-anxiety and why sentiments of the general public differ from climate experts. </p><p> Links: </p><ul><li>Britt Wray’s <a href='https://www.brittwray.com/'>website</a> </li><li>Britt&apos;s <a href='https://www.brittwray.com/books'>books</a>: Generation Dread and Rise of the Necrofauna</li><li>Gen Dread <a href='https://gendread.substack.com/'>newsletter</a> (free subscription!)</li><li>The <a href='https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2542519621002783'>Hickman et al. (2021)</a> paper on a global survey on climate anxiety in children and youth and their perception of government responses to climate change</li></ul><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/challengingclimate">Support the show</a></p><p><a href='https://mailchi.mp/cb62b666e3c5/challenging-climate'>Subscribe for email updates</a></p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <itunes:author>Jesse Reynolds and Pete Irvine </itunes:author>
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    <itunes:title>12. Mark Maslin on Human Evolution and the Anthropocene</itunes:title>
    <title>12. Mark Maslin on Human Evolution and the Anthropocene</title>
    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Mark Maslin is a professor of Earth System Science at University College London and a Royal Society Wolfson Research Merit scholar. Mark is a leading scientist in past global and regional climatic change and its links to human evolution, and has written dozens of popular science articles and popular books, including The Human Planet: How We Created the Anthropocene (with Simon Lewis) – just out in paperback.     In this episode, we spoke with Mark about the link between human evolution a...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p>Mark Maslin is a professor of Earth System Science at University College London and a Royal Society Wolfson Research Merit scholar. Mark is a leading scientist in past global and regional climatic change and its links to human evolution, and has written dozens of popular science articles and popular books, including The Human Planet: How We Created the Anthropocene (with Simon Lewis) – just out in paperback. <br/><br/><br/></p><p>In this episode, we spoke with Mark about the link between human evolution and climate change, and the debate surrounding the Anthropocene epoch. In discussing human evolution, we touch on topics such as the development of bipedalism and human intelligence. Mark explains the extent of human impact on the Earth, hence creating the Anthropocene. We also cover the political debate on defining the Anthropocene and the evolution of international and national politics surrounding climate change. <br/><br/>Links:<br/><br/></p><ul><li>Mark’s <a href='https://www.geog.ucl.ac.uk/people/academic-staff/mark-maslin'>profile</a>, including his recent publications </li><li>The <a href='https://www.nature.com/articles/nature14258'>paper</a> by Mark Maslin and Simon Lewis on defining the Anthropocene </li><li>Another <a href='https://theconversation.com/anthropocene-began-with-species-exchange-between-old-and-new-worlds-38674'>paper</a> by Mark Maslin and Simon Lewis on how the Anthropocene began with species exchange </li><li>That<a href='https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2542519621002783'> Lancet study</a></li><li>The <a href='http://quaternary.stratigraphy.org/working-groups/anthropocene/'>Anthropocene working group</a></li></ul><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/challengingclimate">Support the show</a></p><p><a href='https://mailchi.mp/cb62b666e3c5/challenging-climate'>Subscribe for email updates</a></p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark Maslin is a professor of Earth System Science at University College London and a Royal Society Wolfson Research Merit scholar. Mark is a leading scientist in past global and regional climatic change and its links to human evolution, and has written dozens of popular science articles and popular books, including The Human Planet: How We Created the Anthropocene (with Simon Lewis) – just out in paperback. <br/><br/><br/></p><p>In this episode, we spoke with Mark about the link between human evolution and climate change, and the debate surrounding the Anthropocene epoch. In discussing human evolution, we touch on topics such as the development of bipedalism and human intelligence. Mark explains the extent of human impact on the Earth, hence creating the Anthropocene. We also cover the political debate on defining the Anthropocene and the evolution of international and national politics surrounding climate change. <br/><br/>Links:<br/><br/></p><ul><li>Mark’s <a href='https://www.geog.ucl.ac.uk/people/academic-staff/mark-maslin'>profile</a>, including his recent publications </li><li>The <a href='https://www.nature.com/articles/nature14258'>paper</a> by Mark Maslin and Simon Lewis on defining the Anthropocene </li><li>Another <a href='https://theconversation.com/anthropocene-began-with-species-exchange-between-old-and-new-worlds-38674'>paper</a> by Mark Maslin and Simon Lewis on how the Anthropocene began with species exchange </li><li>That<a href='https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2542519621002783'> Lancet study</a></li><li>The <a href='http://quaternary.stratigraphy.org/working-groups/anthropocene/'>Anthropocene working group</a></li></ul><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/challengingclimate">Support the show</a></p><p><a href='https://mailchi.mp/cb62b666e3c5/challenging-climate'>Subscribe for email updates</a></p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <itunes:title>11. Jesse and Pete interview each other</itunes:title>
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    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[In this episode Jesse and Pete interview each other and look back on the first 10 episodes of Challenging Climate. They discuss their backgrounds, research, and Jesse's new job as Executive Secretary of the Climate Overshoot Commission. They also reflect on how the podcast has been going and look ahead to the future.  Jesse Reynolds is an expert in international environmental policy. He researches and advises on how rules, procedures, and institutions can help manage environmental opportuniti...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode Jesse and Pete interview each other and look back on the first 10 episodes of Challenging Climate. They discuss their backgrounds, research, and Jesse&apos;s new job as Executive Secretary of the Climate Overshoot Commission. They also reflect on how the podcast has been going and look ahead to the future.<br/><br/>Jesse Reynolds is an expert in international environmental policy. He researches and advises on how rules, procedures, and institutions can help manage environmental opportunities and challenges, particularly those involving emerging technologies.</p><p><br/>Pete Irvine is a lecturer (assistant professor) at UCL Earth Sciences where he teaches climate science and researches the climate response to solar geoengineering as well as its broader implications.<br/><br/>Links:</p><ul><li><a href='https://www.overshootcommission.org/'>Climate Overshoot Commission website</a></li><li><a href='https://www.cambridge.org/core/books/governance-of-solar-geoengineering/E2822112609FF5697EC43F09A93D37AE'>Jesse&apos;s book: The Governance of Solar Geoengineering</a></li><li><a href='https://www.nature.com/articles/s41558-019-0398-8'>Irvine et al. (2019), &quot;Halving warming with idealized solar geoengineering moderates key climate hazards&quot;</a></li></ul><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/challengingclimate">Support the show</a></p><p><a href='https://mailchi.mp/cb62b666e3c5/challenging-climate'>Subscribe for email updates</a></p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode Jesse and Pete interview each other and look back on the first 10 episodes of Challenging Climate. They discuss their backgrounds, research, and Jesse&apos;s new job as Executive Secretary of the Climate Overshoot Commission. They also reflect on how the podcast has been going and look ahead to the future.<br/><br/>Jesse Reynolds is an expert in international environmental policy. He researches and advises on how rules, procedures, and institutions can help manage environmental opportunities and challenges, particularly those involving emerging technologies.</p><p><br/>Pete Irvine is a lecturer (assistant professor) at UCL Earth Sciences where he teaches climate science and researches the climate response to solar geoengineering as well as its broader implications.<br/><br/>Links:</p><ul><li><a href='https://www.overshootcommission.org/'>Climate Overshoot Commission website</a></li><li><a href='https://www.cambridge.org/core/books/governance-of-solar-geoengineering/E2822112609FF5697EC43F09A93D37AE'>Jesse&apos;s book: The Governance of Solar Geoengineering</a></li><li><a href='https://www.nature.com/articles/s41558-019-0398-8'>Irvine et al. (2019), &quot;Halving warming with idealized solar geoengineering moderates key climate hazards&quot;</a></li></ul><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/challengingclimate">Support the show</a></p><p><a href='https://mailchi.mp/cb62b666e3c5/challenging-climate'>Subscribe for email updates</a></p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <itunes:title>10. Wake Smith on Pandora&#39;s toolbox and the feasibility of stratospheric aerosol geoengineering</itunes:title>
    <title>10. Wake Smith on Pandora&#39;s toolbox and the feasibility of stratospheric aerosol geoengineering</title>
    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Wake Smith is a Senior Fellow at the Mossavar-Rahmani Center for Business and Government at Harvard Kennedy School, writing scholarly articles on the feasibility, costs and governance of stratospheric aerosol geoengineering. Wake also teaches an undergraduate course on climate intervention at Yale University, the syllabus of which forms the basis of his new book “Pandora’s Toolbox – The Hopes and Hazards of Climate Intervention.” Prior to his academic career, Smith served in several executive...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p>Wake Smith is a Senior Fellow at the Mossavar-Rahmani Center for Business and Government at Harvard Kennedy School, writing scholarly articles on the feasibility, costs and governance of stratospheric aerosol geoengineering. Wake also teaches an undergraduate course on climate intervention at Yale University, the syllabus of which forms the basis of his new book “Pandora’s Toolbox – The Hopes and Hazards of Climate Intervention.” Prior to his academic career, Smith served in several executive roles in the commercial aviation industry, including as the President of the flight training division of Boeing and the COO of Atlas Air.  </p><p>We spoke with Wake about his new book and why he believes that our ancestors will demand climate intervention. We cover the climate context, and the tools in Pandora’s toolbox: carbon dioxide removal and solar radiation management. Wake explains why high-flying jets offer a feasible means of deploying stratospheric aerosol geoengineering, and why the scenario of a billionaire “Greenfinger” implementing this is unlikely. We also touch on the international governance challenges that solar radiation management poses. <br/> <br/>Links: </p><ul><li>Wake’s Book: <a href='https://www.cambridge.org/core/books/pandoras-toolbox/A9713F26408DE0A2423A466FD6B882BF'>“Pandora’s Toolbox: The Hopes and Hazards of Climate Intervention”</a> </li><li>Wake’s <a href='https://www.wakesmith.earth/'>personal website</a> </li><li>Article by Wake on <a href='https://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.1088/1748-9326/aba7e7/meta'>“The cost of stratospheric aerosol injection through 2100”</a> </li></ul><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/challengingclimate">Support the show</a></p><p><a href='https://mailchi.mp/cb62b666e3c5/challenging-climate'>Subscribe for email updates</a></p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wake Smith is a Senior Fellow at the Mossavar-Rahmani Center for Business and Government at Harvard Kennedy School, writing scholarly articles on the feasibility, costs and governance of stratospheric aerosol geoengineering. Wake also teaches an undergraduate course on climate intervention at Yale University, the syllabus of which forms the basis of his new book “Pandora’s Toolbox – The Hopes and Hazards of Climate Intervention.” Prior to his academic career, Smith served in several executive roles in the commercial aviation industry, including as the President of the flight training division of Boeing and the COO of Atlas Air.  </p><p>We spoke with Wake about his new book and why he believes that our ancestors will demand climate intervention. We cover the climate context, and the tools in Pandora’s toolbox: carbon dioxide removal and solar radiation management. Wake explains why high-flying jets offer a feasible means of deploying stratospheric aerosol geoengineering, and why the scenario of a billionaire “Greenfinger” implementing this is unlikely. We also touch on the international governance challenges that solar radiation management poses. <br/> <br/>Links: </p><ul><li>Wake’s Book: <a href='https://www.cambridge.org/core/books/pandoras-toolbox/A9713F26408DE0A2423A466FD6B882BF'>“Pandora’s Toolbox: The Hopes and Hazards of Climate Intervention”</a> </li><li>Wake’s <a href='https://www.wakesmith.earth/'>personal website</a> </li><li>Article by Wake on <a href='https://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.1088/1748-9326/aba7e7/meta'>“The cost of stratospheric aerosol injection through 2100”</a> </li></ul><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/challengingclimate">Support the show</a></p><p><a href='https://mailchi.mp/cb62b666e3c5/challenging-climate'>Subscribe for email updates</a></p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <itunes:title>9. Sir David King on science advice, climate politics, and climate repair</itunes:title>
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    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Sir David King is the founder and chair of the Centre for Climate Repair at Cambridge University and the Climate Crisis Advisory Group. Previously he held the positions of the UK's permanent Special Representative for Climate Change. He was also the Government's Chief Scientific Advisor from 2000 to 2007, during which time he raised awareness of the need for governments to act on climate change and was instrumental in creating the Energy Technologies Institute.  We speak with Sir David about ...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p>Sir David King is the founder and chair of the Centre for Climate Repair at Cambridge University and the Climate Crisis Advisory Group. Previously he held the positions of the UK&apos;s permanent Special Representative for Climate Change. He was also the Government&apos;s Chief Scientific Advisor from 2000 to 2007, during which time he raised awareness of the need for governments to act on climate change and was instrumental in creating the Energy Technologies Institute.<br/><br/>We speak with Sir David about science advice for the government and communication with the public, foresight, the domestic and international politics of climate change, his relatively new endeavors -- the Centre for Climate Repair at Cambridge and the Climate Crisis Advisory Group, opportunities to reduce greenhouse gas emissions, and the importance of carbon dioxide removal.<br/><br/>Links:</p><ul><li>Centre for Climate Repair at Cambridge <a href='https://www.climaterepair.cam.ac.uk/'>https://www.climaterepair.cam.ac.uk/</a></li><li>Climate Crisis Advisory Group <a href='https://www.ccag.earth/'>https://www.ccag.earth/</a></li><li>&quot;Infectious diseases: preparing for the future&quot; report <a href='https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/infectious-diseases-preparing-for-the-future'>https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/infectious-diseases-preparing-for-the-future</a></li><li>&quot;Future flooding&quot; report <a href='https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/future-flooding'>https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/future-flooding</a></li></ul><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/challengingclimate">Support the show</a></p><p><a href='https://mailchi.mp/cb62b666e3c5/challenging-climate'>Subscribe for email updates</a></p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sir David King is the founder and chair of the Centre for Climate Repair at Cambridge University and the Climate Crisis Advisory Group. Previously he held the positions of the UK&apos;s permanent Special Representative for Climate Change. He was also the Government&apos;s Chief Scientific Advisor from 2000 to 2007, during which time he raised awareness of the need for governments to act on climate change and was instrumental in creating the Energy Technologies Institute.<br/><br/>We speak with Sir David about science advice for the government and communication with the public, foresight, the domestic and international politics of climate change, his relatively new endeavors -- the Centre for Climate Repair at Cambridge and the Climate Crisis Advisory Group, opportunities to reduce greenhouse gas emissions, and the importance of carbon dioxide removal.<br/><br/>Links:</p><ul><li>Centre for Climate Repair at Cambridge <a href='https://www.climaterepair.cam.ac.uk/'>https://www.climaterepair.cam.ac.uk/</a></li><li>Climate Crisis Advisory Group <a href='https://www.ccag.earth/'>https://www.ccag.earth/</a></li><li>&quot;Infectious diseases: preparing for the future&quot; report <a href='https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/infectious-diseases-preparing-for-the-future'>https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/infectious-diseases-preparing-for-the-future</a></li><li>&quot;Future flooding&quot; report <a href='https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/future-flooding'>https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/future-flooding</a></li></ul><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/challengingclimate">Support the show</a></p><p><a href='https://mailchi.mp/cb62b666e3c5/challenging-climate'>Subscribe for email updates</a></p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <itunes:title>8. Jan Minx on the IPCC&#39;s latest report on mitigation</itunes:title>
    <title>8. Jan Minx on the IPCC&#39;s latest report on mitigation</title>
    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[We speak with Jan Minx, Head of Applied Sustainability Science at the Mercator Research Institute on Global Commons and Climate Change, and a visiting Professor of Climate Change and Public Policy at The Priestley Centre at the University of Leeds. Jan has published widely on climate and sustainability issues and has a keen interest in evidence synthesis which he developed through his work with the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change. Jan was a coordinating lead author on the latest IPC...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p>We speak with Jan Minx, Head of Applied Sustainability Science at the Mercator Research Institute on Global Commons and Climate Change, and a visiting Professor of Climate Change and Public Policy at The Priestley Centre at the University of Leeds. Jan has published widely on climate and sustainability issues and has a keen interest in evidence synthesis which he developed through his work with the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change. Jan was a coordinating lead author on the latest IPCC assessment report on mitigation and in this episode, he shares his take-aways from the report. We discuss the roles of individual choice, technological development, and carbon dioxide removal in meeting our climate goals. Jan also explains how thinking systematically about evidence synthesis can lead to better reviews of the literature and better research overall.<br/><br/>Links:</p><ul><li><a href='https://www.mcc-berlin.net/en/about/team/minx-jan.html'>Jan’s Profile</a> </li><li><a href='https://www.ipcc.ch/report/sixth-assessment-report-working-group-3/'>IPCC Working Group 3 report</a> on mitigation </li><li>The chapter that Jan was a coordinating lead author on: <a href='https://report.ipcc.ch/ar6wg3/pdf/IPCC_AR6_WGIII_FinalDraft_Chapter02.pdf'>Chapter 2 - emissions trends and drivers</a> </li><li>The chapter that addresses demand-side options: <a href='https://report.ipcc.ch/ar6wg3/pdf/IPCC_AR6_WGIII_FinalDraft_Chapter05.pdf'>Chapter 5 - Demand, services and social aspects</a> </li><li><a href='https://www.ipcc.ch/report/ar6/wg3/figures/summary-for-policymakers/figure-spm-6'>Figure SPM6 from Summary for Policymakers</a> that shows demand-side mitigation options </li><li><a href='https://www.carbonbrief.org/mapped-worlds-largest-co2-importers-exporters'>Carbon Brief article</a> that maps CO2 imports and exports </li><li>The 2015 systematic review <a href='https://www.nature.com/articles/nclimate2896'>study</a> which provides an overview of impacts attribution, covered in the <a href='https://www.ipcc.ch/site/assets/uploads/2018/02/ar5_wgII_spm_en.pdf'>IPCC’s 5th report</a> </li><li>The <a href='https://www.nature.com/articles/s41558-021-01168-6'>machine learning effort</a> to provide a more comprehensive overview of impacts attribution that Jan was involved in </li><li>The <a href='https://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.1088/1748-9326/8/3/034033'>paper by Gunnar Luderer</a> on the feasibility frontier of climate ambition in economic models of climate change in integrated assessment models </li></ul><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/challengingclimate">Support the show</a></p><p><a href='https://mailchi.mp/cb62b666e3c5/challenging-climate'>Subscribe for email updates</a></p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We speak with Jan Minx, Head of Applied Sustainability Science at the Mercator Research Institute on Global Commons and Climate Change, and a visiting Professor of Climate Change and Public Policy at The Priestley Centre at the University of Leeds. Jan has published widely on climate and sustainability issues and has a keen interest in evidence synthesis which he developed through his work with the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change. Jan was a coordinating lead author on the latest IPCC assessment report on mitigation and in this episode, he shares his take-aways from the report. We discuss the roles of individual choice, technological development, and carbon dioxide removal in meeting our climate goals. Jan also explains how thinking systematically about evidence synthesis can lead to better reviews of the literature and better research overall.<br/><br/>Links:</p><ul><li><a href='https://www.mcc-berlin.net/en/about/team/minx-jan.html'>Jan’s Profile</a> </li><li><a href='https://www.ipcc.ch/report/sixth-assessment-report-working-group-3/'>IPCC Working Group 3 report</a> on mitigation </li><li>The chapter that Jan was a coordinating lead author on: <a href='https://report.ipcc.ch/ar6wg3/pdf/IPCC_AR6_WGIII_FinalDraft_Chapter02.pdf'>Chapter 2 - emissions trends and drivers</a> </li><li>The chapter that addresses demand-side options: <a href='https://report.ipcc.ch/ar6wg3/pdf/IPCC_AR6_WGIII_FinalDraft_Chapter05.pdf'>Chapter 5 - Demand, services and social aspects</a> </li><li><a href='https://www.ipcc.ch/report/ar6/wg3/figures/summary-for-policymakers/figure-spm-6'>Figure SPM6 from Summary for Policymakers</a> that shows demand-side mitigation options </li><li><a href='https://www.carbonbrief.org/mapped-worlds-largest-co2-importers-exporters'>Carbon Brief article</a> that maps CO2 imports and exports </li><li>The 2015 systematic review <a href='https://www.nature.com/articles/nclimate2896'>study</a> which provides an overview of impacts attribution, covered in the <a href='https://www.ipcc.ch/site/assets/uploads/2018/02/ar5_wgII_spm_en.pdf'>IPCC’s 5th report</a> </li><li>The <a href='https://www.nature.com/articles/s41558-021-01168-6'>machine learning effort</a> to provide a more comprehensive overview of impacts attribution that Jan was involved in </li><li>The <a href='https://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.1088/1748-9326/8/3/034033'>paper by Gunnar Luderer</a> on the feasibility frontier of climate ambition in economic models of climate change in integrated assessment models </li></ul><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/challengingclimate">Support the show</a></p><p><a href='https://mailchi.mp/cb62b666e3c5/challenging-climate'>Subscribe for email updates</a></p>]]></content:encoded>
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  <psc:chapter start="35:29" title="Doing evidence synthesis well" />
  <psc:chapter start="49:39" title="Carbon footprints " />
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  <psc:chapter start="54:06" title="Feasibility of ambitious emissions cut scenarios" />
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    <itunes:title>7. Gavin Schmidt on observing, attributing and communicating climate change</itunes:title>
    <title>7. Gavin Schmidt on observing, attributing and communicating climate change</title>
    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[We speak with Dr. Gavin Schmidt, climate scientist, director of the Goddard Institute for Space Studies and co-founder of the RealClimate climate science blog. Gavin’s research focuses on understanding the past, present and future of the climate system and the impacts of the various drivers of climate change. In this episode we take a deep dive on the science of climate change covering how it is observed, detected and attributed. Along the way Gavin debunks several climate skeptic talking poi...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p>We speak with Dr. Gavin Schmidt, climate scientist, director of the Goddard Institute for Space Studies and co-founder of the RealClimate climate science blog. Gavin’s research focuses on understanding the past, present and future of the climate system and the impacts of the various drivers of climate change. In this episode we take a deep dive on the science of climate change covering how it is observed, detected and attributed. Along the way Gavin debunks several climate skeptic talking points and discusses the changing challenges of climate communication.<br/><br/>Links:</p><ul><li>Gavin&apos;s <a href='https://www.giss.nasa.gov/staff/gschmidt/'>profile</a> at NASA GISS.</li><li>The <a href='https://www.realclimate.org/'>RealClimate</a> blog.</li><li>The <a href='https://www.ipcc.ch/report/ar6/wg1/downloads/report/IPCC_AR6_WGI_Headline_Statements.pdf'>IPCC</a> on humanity&apos;s unequivocal influence on the climate.</li><li>The <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ordovician'>Oridivician</a> (Not Oligocene) was the geological age that Gavin was referring to.</li><li>The Smithsonian project to document 500 million years of global-mean temperature (<a href='https://www.science.org/content/article/500-million-year-survey-earths-climate-reveals-dire-warning-humanity'>Science</a>).</li><li>Gavin giving the Stephen Schneider Lecture in 2013: <a href='https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJC1phPS6IA'>What should a climate scientist advocate for?</a></li></ul><p><br/></p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/challengingclimate">Support the show</a></p><p><a href='https://mailchi.mp/cb62b666e3c5/challenging-climate'>Subscribe for email updates</a></p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We speak with Dr. Gavin Schmidt, climate scientist, director of the Goddard Institute for Space Studies and co-founder of the RealClimate climate science blog. Gavin’s research focuses on understanding the past, present and future of the climate system and the impacts of the various drivers of climate change. In this episode we take a deep dive on the science of climate change covering how it is observed, detected and attributed. Along the way Gavin debunks several climate skeptic talking points and discusses the changing challenges of climate communication.<br/><br/>Links:</p><ul><li>Gavin&apos;s <a href='https://www.giss.nasa.gov/staff/gschmidt/'>profile</a> at NASA GISS.</li><li>The <a href='https://www.realclimate.org/'>RealClimate</a> blog.</li><li>The <a href='https://www.ipcc.ch/report/ar6/wg1/downloads/report/IPCC_AR6_WGI_Headline_Statements.pdf'>IPCC</a> on humanity&apos;s unequivocal influence on the climate.</li><li>The <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ordovician'>Oridivician</a> (Not Oligocene) was the geological age that Gavin was referring to.</li><li>The Smithsonian project to document 500 million years of global-mean temperature (<a href='https://www.science.org/content/article/500-million-year-survey-earths-climate-reveals-dire-warning-humanity'>Science</a>).</li><li>Gavin giving the Stephen Schneider Lecture in 2013: <a href='https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJC1phPS6IA'>What should a climate scientist advocate for?</a></li></ul><p><br/></p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/challengingclimate">Support the show</a></p><p><a href='https://mailchi.mp/cb62b666e3c5/challenging-climate'>Subscribe for email updates</a></p>]]></content:encoded>
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  <psc:chapter start="17:28" title="why human influence on the climate is now unequivocal" />
  <psc:chapter start="21:39" title="how the global warming hiatus evaporated" />
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  <psc:chapter start="36:24" title="The climate of the past" />
  <psc:chapter start="44:13" title="Did James Hansen jump the gun?" />
  <psc:chapter start="47:27" title="Is climate denial dead?" />
  <psc:chapter start="52:09" title="What is the legitimate scope of debate for climate action? " />
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    <itunes:title>6. Elizabeth Kolbert on climate change, extinctions, and life Under a White Sky</itunes:title>
    <title>6. Elizabeth Kolbert on climate change, extinctions, and life Under a White Sky</title>
    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[We speak with Elizabeth Kolbert, a journalist of politics and the environment. She has been at The New Yorker for more than 20 years and is the author of Under a White Sky: The Nature of the Future, The Sixth Extinction: An Unnatural History (winner of the 2015 Pulitzer Prize for General Non-Fiction), and Field Notes from a Catastrophe: Man, Nature, and Climate Change. We dive into how the climate change discourse has changed, mass extinctions and new speciation, and international large-scale...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p>We speak with Elizabeth Kolbert, a journalist of politics and the environment. She has been at <em>The New Yorker</em> for more than 20 years and is the author of <em>Under a White Sky: The Nature of the Future</em>, <em>The Sixth Extinction: An Unnatural History</em> (winner of the 2015 Pulitzer Prize for General Non-Fiction), and <em>Field Notes from a Catastrophe: Man, Nature, and Climate Change</em>. We dive into how the climate change discourse has changed, mass extinctions and new speciation, and international large-scale interventions in natural systems.<br/><br/>At <em>The New Yorker</em>: <a href='https://www.newyorker.com/contributors/elizabeth-kolbert'>https://www.newyorker.com/contributors/elizabeth-kolbert</a><br/>Twitter: <a href='https://twitter.com/ElizKolbert'>https://twitter.com/ElizKolbert</a> <br/><em>Under a White Sky</em>: <a href='https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/617060/under-a-white-sky-by-elizabeth-kolbert/'>https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/617060/under-a-white-sky-by-elizabeth-kolbert/</a><br/><em>The Sixth Extinction</em>: <a href='https://us.macmillan.com/books/9781250062185/thesixthextinction'>https://us.macmillan.com/books/9781250062185/thesixthextinction</a><br/><em>Field Notes from a Catastrophe</em>: <a href='https://www.bloomsbury.com/us/field-notes-from-a-catastrophe-9781620409886/'>https://www.bloomsbury.com/us/field-notes-from-a-catastrophe-9781620409886/</a></p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/challengingclimate">Support the show</a></p><p><a href='https://mailchi.mp/cb62b666e3c5/challenging-climate'>Subscribe for email updates</a></p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We speak with Elizabeth Kolbert, a journalist of politics and the environment. She has been at <em>The New Yorker</em> for more than 20 years and is the author of <em>Under a White Sky: The Nature of the Future</em>, <em>The Sixth Extinction: An Unnatural History</em> (winner of the 2015 Pulitzer Prize for General Non-Fiction), and <em>Field Notes from a Catastrophe: Man, Nature, and Climate Change</em>. We dive into how the climate change discourse has changed, mass extinctions and new speciation, and international large-scale interventions in natural systems.<br/><br/>At <em>The New Yorker</em>: <a href='https://www.newyorker.com/contributors/elizabeth-kolbert'>https://www.newyorker.com/contributors/elizabeth-kolbert</a><br/>Twitter: <a href='https://twitter.com/ElizKolbert'>https://twitter.com/ElizKolbert</a> <br/><em>Under a White Sky</em>: <a href='https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/617060/under-a-white-sky-by-elizabeth-kolbert/'>https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/617060/under-a-white-sky-by-elizabeth-kolbert/</a><br/><em>The Sixth Extinction</em>: <a href='https://us.macmillan.com/books/9781250062185/thesixthextinction'>https://us.macmillan.com/books/9781250062185/thesixthextinction</a><br/><em>Field Notes from a Catastrophe</em>: <a href='https://www.bloomsbury.com/us/field-notes-from-a-catastrophe-9781620409886/'>https://www.bloomsbury.com/us/field-notes-from-a-catastrophe-9781620409886/</a></p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/challengingclimate">Support the show</a></p><p><a href='https://mailchi.mp/cb62b666e3c5/challenging-climate'>Subscribe for email updates</a></p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <itunes:title>5. Robert Lempert on climate impacts in the IPCC and deep uncertainty</itunes:title>
    <title>5. Robert Lempert on climate impacts in the IPCC and deep uncertainty</title>
    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Robert Lempert is a principal researcher at the RAND Corporation and director of the Center for Longer Range Global Policy and the Future Human Condition. His research focuses on risk management and decision-making under conditions of deep uncertainty. He was also a coordinating lead author on Chapter 1 of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change’s (IPCC) latest report on climate impacts. We discuss how the IPCC works and how it has evolved in response to criticism, the key concepts need...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p>Robert Lempert is a principal researcher at the RAND Corporation and director of the Center for Longer Range Global Policy and the Future Human Condition. His research focuses on risk management and decision-making under conditions of deep uncertainty. He was also a coordinating lead author on Chapter 1 of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change’s (IPCC) latest report on climate impacts. We discuss how the IPCC works and how it has evolved in response to criticism, the key concepts needed to understand climate impacts, the challenges of adapting to climate change, decision-making under deep uncertainty, and the peculiar nature of climate scenarios.</p><p>Links:</p><ul><li>Profile at RAND: <a href='https://www.rand.org/about/people/l/lempert_robert_j.html'>https://www.rand.org/about/people/l/lempert_robert_j.html</a></li><li>The IPCC’s latest report on impacts, adaptation and vulnerability: <a href='https://www.ipcc.ch/report/sixth-assessment-report-working-group-ii/'>https://www.ipcc.ch/report/sixth-assessment-report-working-group-ii/</a></li><li>The chapter that Prof. Lempert led the writing of: <a href='https://report.ipcc.ch/ar6wg2/pdf/IPCC_AR6_WGII_FinalDraft_Chapter01.pdf'>https://report.ipcc.ch/ar6wg2/pdf/IPCC_AR6_WGII_FinalDraft_Chapter01.pdf</a></li><li>Prof. Lempert’s book by RAND, “Shaping the Next One Hundred Years: New Methods for Quantitative, Long-Term Policy Analysis”: <a href='https://www.rand.org/pubs/monograph_reports/MR1626.html'>https://www.rand.org/pubs/monograph_reports/MR1626.html</a></li></ul><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/challengingclimate">Support the show</a></p><p><a href='https://mailchi.mp/cb62b666e3c5/challenging-climate'>Subscribe for email updates</a></p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robert Lempert is a principal researcher at the RAND Corporation and director of the Center for Longer Range Global Policy and the Future Human Condition. His research focuses on risk management and decision-making under conditions of deep uncertainty. He was also a coordinating lead author on Chapter 1 of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change’s (IPCC) latest report on climate impacts. We discuss how the IPCC works and how it has evolved in response to criticism, the key concepts needed to understand climate impacts, the challenges of adapting to climate change, decision-making under deep uncertainty, and the peculiar nature of climate scenarios.</p><p>Links:</p><ul><li>Profile at RAND: <a href='https://www.rand.org/about/people/l/lempert_robert_j.html'>https://www.rand.org/about/people/l/lempert_robert_j.html</a></li><li>The IPCC’s latest report on impacts, adaptation and vulnerability: <a href='https://www.ipcc.ch/report/sixth-assessment-report-working-group-ii/'>https://www.ipcc.ch/report/sixth-assessment-report-working-group-ii/</a></li><li>The chapter that Prof. Lempert led the writing of: <a href='https://report.ipcc.ch/ar6wg2/pdf/IPCC_AR6_WGII_FinalDraft_Chapter01.pdf'>https://report.ipcc.ch/ar6wg2/pdf/IPCC_AR6_WGII_FinalDraft_Chapter01.pdf</a></li><li>Prof. Lempert’s book by RAND, “Shaping the Next One Hundred Years: New Methods for Quantitative, Long-Term Policy Analysis”: <a href='https://www.rand.org/pubs/monograph_reports/MR1626.html'>https://www.rand.org/pubs/monograph_reports/MR1626.html</a></li></ul><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/challengingclimate">Support the show</a></p><p><a href='https://mailchi.mp/cb62b666e3c5/challenging-climate'>Subscribe for email updates</a></p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <itunes:title>4. Zion Lights on nuclear energy, technology, and climate change</itunes:title>
    <title>4. Zion Lights on nuclear energy, technology, and climate change</title>
    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Zion Lights is an environmental activist and author. She founded Emergency Reactor, which calls for greater use of nuclear power, alongside renewables, in order to help eliminate greenhouse gas emissions.  Her books include "The Ultimate Guide to Green Parenting" and "Only a Moment." She was previously spokesperson for Extinction Rebellion. We discuss her transition from Extinction Rebellion to nuclear advocate, nuclear energy's roles in reducing emissions, its challenges to expansion, t...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p>Zion Lights is an environmental activist and author. She founded Emergency Reactor, which calls for greater use of nuclear power, alongside renewables, in order to help eliminate greenhouse gas emissions.  Her books include &quot;The Ultimate Guide to Green Parenting&quot; and &quot;Only a Moment.&quot; She was previously spokesperson for Extinction Rebellion. We discuss her transition from Extinction Rebellion to nuclear advocate, nuclear energy&apos;s roles in reducing emissions, its challenges to expansion, the politics of nuclear energy, ecomodernism, and the dark side of environmentalism. <br/><br/>Links:</p><ul><li>Personal website: <a href='https://www.zionlights.co.uk/'>https://www.zionlights.co.uk/</a></li><li>Emergency Reactor: <a href='https://www.emergencyreactor.org/'>https://www.emergencyreactor.org/</a></li><li>electricityMap: <a href='https://electricitymap.org/'>https://electricitymap.org/</a></li><li>Our World in Data on nuclear energy and its emissions and safety: <a href='https://ourworldindata.org/nuclear-energy#modern-renewables-and-nuclear-energy-are-not-only-safer-but-also-cleaner-than-fossil-fuels'>https://ourworldindata.org/nuclear-energy#modern-renewables-and-nuclear-energy-are-not-only-safer-but-also-cleaner-than-fossil-fuels</a></li><li>Hans Rosling on development: <a href='https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbkSRLYSojo'>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbkSRLYSojo</a></li><li>Lights&apos;s appearance with Andrew Neil: <a href='https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H3kJwQBZOkM'>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H3kJwQBZOkM</a></li><li>Extinction Rebellion statement on Lights: <a href='https://extinctionrebellion.uk/2020/09/16/statement-on-zion-lights-michael-shellenberger-and-the-breakthrough-institute/'>https://extinctionrebellion.uk/2020/09/16/statement-on-zion-lights-michael-shellenberger-and-the-breakthrough-institute/</a></li></ul><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/challengingclimate">Support the show</a></p><p><a href='https://mailchi.mp/cb62b666e3c5/challenging-climate'>Subscribe for email updates</a></p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Zion Lights is an environmental activist and author. She founded Emergency Reactor, which calls for greater use of nuclear power, alongside renewables, in order to help eliminate greenhouse gas emissions.  Her books include &quot;The Ultimate Guide to Green Parenting&quot; and &quot;Only a Moment.&quot; She was previously spokesperson for Extinction Rebellion. We discuss her transition from Extinction Rebellion to nuclear advocate, nuclear energy&apos;s roles in reducing emissions, its challenges to expansion, the politics of nuclear energy, ecomodernism, and the dark side of environmentalism. <br/><br/>Links:</p><ul><li>Personal website: <a href='https://www.zionlights.co.uk/'>https://www.zionlights.co.uk/</a></li><li>Emergency Reactor: <a href='https://www.emergencyreactor.org/'>https://www.emergencyreactor.org/</a></li><li>electricityMap: <a href='https://electricitymap.org/'>https://electricitymap.org/</a></li><li>Our World in Data on nuclear energy and its emissions and safety: <a href='https://ourworldindata.org/nuclear-energy#modern-renewables-and-nuclear-energy-are-not-only-safer-but-also-cleaner-than-fossil-fuels'>https://ourworldindata.org/nuclear-energy#modern-renewables-and-nuclear-energy-are-not-only-safer-but-also-cleaner-than-fossil-fuels</a></li><li>Hans Rosling on development: <a href='https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbkSRLYSojo'>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbkSRLYSojo</a></li><li>Lights&apos;s appearance with Andrew Neil: <a href='https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H3kJwQBZOkM'>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H3kJwQBZOkM</a></li><li>Extinction Rebellion statement on Lights: <a href='https://extinctionrebellion.uk/2020/09/16/statement-on-zion-lights-michael-shellenberger-and-the-breakthrough-institute/'>https://extinctionrebellion.uk/2020/09/16/statement-on-zion-lights-michael-shellenberger-and-the-breakthrough-institute/</a></li></ul><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/challengingclimate">Support the show</a></p><p><a href='https://mailchi.mp/cb62b666e3c5/challenging-climate'>Subscribe for email updates</a></p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <itunes:title>3. Roger Pielke on the politics of climate change, scenarios, and extreme weather</itunes:title>
    <title>3. Roger Pielke on the politics of climate change, scenarios, and extreme weather</title>
    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Roger Pielke Jr. is a political scientist who writes on a diverse range of policy and governance issues related to science, technology, environment, innovation and sports. He is most famous (or infamous?) for his work on climate change. We cover his Iron Law of climate policy, his views on the problems with business-as-usual climate scenarios, and the challenges of attributing extreme weather. We also touch on the extent of his relationships with climate change skeptics and the efforts to dis...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p>Roger Pielke Jr. is a political scientist who writes on a diverse range of policy and governance issues related to science, technology, environment, innovation and sports. He is most famous (or infamous?) for his work on climate change. We cover his Iron Law of climate policy, his views on the problems with business-as-usual climate scenarios, and the challenges of attributing extreme weather. We also touch on the extent of his relationships with climate change skeptics and the efforts to discredit him, including the congressional investigation into his funding.<br/><br/>Roger is a Professor at the Department of Environmental Studies at the University of Colorado in Boulder. He is the author of <em>The Climate Fix: What Scientists and Politicians Won’t Tell you About Global Warming, The Honest Broker: Making Sense of Science in Policy and Politics</em>,<em> </em>and <em>The Rightful Place of Science: Disasters &amp; Climate Change </em>.<br/><br/>Links:<br/>- the report detailing the campaign to discredit Pielke <a href='https://www.thegwpf.org/content/uploads/2021/11/Laframboise-Pielke.pdf'>https://www.thegwpf.org/content/uploads/2021/11/Laframboise-Pielke.pdf</a> [PDF]<br/>- his chart in <em>The Climate Fix</em> showing the historical change in the proportion of carbon-free energy and how it will need to change in future <a href='https://theclimatefix.files.wordpress.com/2017/06/bp-2017-3.jpg'>https://theclimatefix.files.wordpress.com/2017/06/bp-2017-3.jpg</a> <br/>- the IPCC&apos;s latest report on the physical science of climate change <a href='https://www.ipcc.ch/report/ar6/wg1/'>https://www.ipcc.ch/report/ar6/wg1/<br/></a>- two blog posts by Pielke on this recent report <a href='https://rogerpielkejr.substack.com/p/how-to-understand-the-new-ipcc-report'>https://rogerpielkejr.substack.com/p/how-to-understand-the-new-ipcc-report</a> and <a href='https://rogerpielkejr.substack.com/p/how-to-understand-the-new-ipcc-report-1e3'>https://rogerpielkejr.substack.com/p/how-to-understand-the-new-ipcc-report-1e3</a><br/>- Pielke&apos;s academic paper on scenarios with Justin Ritchie  <a href='https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S2214629620304655'>https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S2214629620304655</a> and a popular article summarizing their work <a href='https://issues.org/climate-change-scenarios-lost-touch-reality-pielke-ritchie/'>https://issues.org/climate-change-scenarios-lost-touch-reality-pielke-ritchie/<br/></a>- <em>The Climate Fix</em> <a href='https://www.basicbooks.com/titles/roger-pielke/the-climate-fix/9780465025190/'>https://www.basicbooks.com/titles/roger-pielke/the-climate-fix/9780465025190/</a><br/>- <em>The Honest Broker</em> <a href='https://www.cambridge.org/core/books/honest-broker/A41AD4D7D14077165807DBE057B5FAF9'>https://www.cambridge.org/core/books/honest-broker/A41AD4D7D14077165807DBE057B5FAF9</a><br/>- <em>The Rightful Place of Science: Disasters &amp; Climate Change</em> <a href='https://cspo.org/publication/the-rightful-place-of-science-disasters-and-climate-change/'>https://cspo.org/publication/the-rightful-place-of-science-disasters-and-climate-change/</a></p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/challengingclimate">Support the show</a></p><p><a href='https://mailchi.mp/cb62b666e3c5/challenging-climate'>Subscribe for email updates</a></p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Roger Pielke Jr. is a political scientist who writes on a diverse range of policy and governance issues related to science, technology, environment, innovation and sports. He is most famous (or infamous?) for his work on climate change. We cover his Iron Law of climate policy, his views on the problems with business-as-usual climate scenarios, and the challenges of attributing extreme weather. We also touch on the extent of his relationships with climate change skeptics and the efforts to discredit him, including the congressional investigation into his funding.<br/><br/>Roger is a Professor at the Department of Environmental Studies at the University of Colorado in Boulder. He is the author of <em>The Climate Fix: What Scientists and Politicians Won’t Tell you About Global Warming, The Honest Broker: Making Sense of Science in Policy and Politics</em>,<em> </em>and <em>The Rightful Place of Science: Disasters &amp; Climate Change </em>.<br/><br/>Links:<br/>- the report detailing the campaign to discredit Pielke <a href='https://www.thegwpf.org/content/uploads/2021/11/Laframboise-Pielke.pdf'>https://www.thegwpf.org/content/uploads/2021/11/Laframboise-Pielke.pdf</a> [PDF]<br/>- his chart in <em>The Climate Fix</em> showing the historical change in the proportion of carbon-free energy and how it will need to change in future <a href='https://theclimatefix.files.wordpress.com/2017/06/bp-2017-3.jpg'>https://theclimatefix.files.wordpress.com/2017/06/bp-2017-3.jpg</a> <br/>- the IPCC&apos;s latest report on the physical science of climate change <a href='https://www.ipcc.ch/report/ar6/wg1/'>https://www.ipcc.ch/report/ar6/wg1/<br/></a>- two blog posts by Pielke on this recent report <a href='https://rogerpielkejr.substack.com/p/how-to-understand-the-new-ipcc-report'>https://rogerpielkejr.substack.com/p/how-to-understand-the-new-ipcc-report</a> and <a href='https://rogerpielkejr.substack.com/p/how-to-understand-the-new-ipcc-report-1e3'>https://rogerpielkejr.substack.com/p/how-to-understand-the-new-ipcc-report-1e3</a><br/>- Pielke&apos;s academic paper on scenarios with Justin Ritchie  <a href='https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S2214629620304655'>https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S2214629620304655</a> and a popular article summarizing their work <a href='https://issues.org/climate-change-scenarios-lost-touch-reality-pielke-ritchie/'>https://issues.org/climate-change-scenarios-lost-touch-reality-pielke-ritchie/<br/></a>- <em>The Climate Fix</em> <a href='https://www.basicbooks.com/titles/roger-pielke/the-climate-fix/9780465025190/'>https://www.basicbooks.com/titles/roger-pielke/the-climate-fix/9780465025190/</a><br/>- <em>The Honest Broker</em> <a href='https://www.cambridge.org/core/books/honest-broker/A41AD4D7D14077165807DBE057B5FAF9'>https://www.cambridge.org/core/books/honest-broker/A41AD4D7D14077165807DBE057B5FAF9</a><br/>- <em>The Rightful Place of Science: Disasters &amp; Climate Change</em> <a href='https://cspo.org/publication/the-rightful-place-of-science-disasters-and-climate-change/'>https://cspo.org/publication/the-rightful-place-of-science-disasters-and-climate-change/</a></p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/challengingclimate">Support the show</a></p><p><a href='https://mailchi.mp/cb62b666e3c5/challenging-climate'>Subscribe for email updates</a></p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <itunes:author>Jesse Reynolds and Pete Irvine </itunes:author>
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  <psc:chapter start="5:53" title="Relative pessimism of mitigation and the Iron Law of climate change" />
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  <psc:chapter start="57:09" title="Reasons for optimism" />
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    <itunes:title>2. Holly Buck on ending fossil fuels</itunes:title>
    <title>2. Holly Buck on ending fossil fuels</title>
    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Holly Jean Buck is an expert on the social and political dimensions of environmental policies, and of strategies and technologies for preventing and adapting to climate change. Our conversation focuses on her new book, Ending Fossil Fuels: Why Net Zero Is Not Enough. Holly, Pete, and Jesse discuss why we should strive for a future of no fossil fuels, the challenges to ending fossil fuels, the role of carbon dioxide removal, whether the alternatives could be worse, how to deal with legacy firm...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p>Holly Jean Buck is an expert on the social and political dimensions of environmental policies, and of strategies and technologies for preventing and adapting to climate change. Our conversation focuses on her new book, <a href='https://www.versobooks.com/books/3879-ending-fossil-fuels '><em>Ending Fossil Fuels: Why Net Zero Is Not Enough</em></a>. Holly, Pete, and Jesse discuss why we should strive for a future of no fossil fuels, the challenges to ending fossil fuels, the role of carbon dioxide removal, whether the alternatives could be worse, how to deal with legacy firms and stranded assets, the collective action problem, and practical next steps. We also touch on the whether to shrink the global economy through degrowth, public participation and engagement, bridging technological and social change, and reasons for optimism. <br/><br/>Holly is Assistant Professor of Environment and Sustainability at the University at Buffalo and also the author of After Geoengineering: Climate Tragedy, Repair, and Restoration and co-editor of Has It Come to This? The Promise and Peril of Geoengineering on the Brink.<br/><br/><a href='https://twitter.com/hollyjeanbuck'>https://twitter.com/hollyjeanbuck</a><br/><a href='https://arts-sciences.buffalo.edu/environment-sustainability/faculty/faculty-directory/holly-buck.html'>https://arts-sciences.buffalo.edu/environment-sustainability/faculty/faculty-directory/holly-buck.html</a> <br/><a href='https://www.versobooks.com/books/3879-ending-fossil-fuels'>https://www.versobooks.com/books/3879-ending-fossil-fuels</a> <br/><a href='https://fossilfueltreaty.org/'>https://fossilfueltreaty.org/</a> <br/><br/></p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/challengingclimate">Support the show</a></p><p><a href='https://mailchi.mp/cb62b666e3c5/challenging-climate'>Subscribe for email updates</a></p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Holly Jean Buck is an expert on the social and political dimensions of environmental policies, and of strategies and technologies for preventing and adapting to climate change. Our conversation focuses on her new book, <a href='https://www.versobooks.com/books/3879-ending-fossil-fuels '><em>Ending Fossil Fuels: Why Net Zero Is Not Enough</em></a>. Holly, Pete, and Jesse discuss why we should strive for a future of no fossil fuels, the challenges to ending fossil fuels, the role of carbon dioxide removal, whether the alternatives could be worse, how to deal with legacy firms and stranded assets, the collective action problem, and practical next steps. We also touch on the whether to shrink the global economy through degrowth, public participation and engagement, bridging technological and social change, and reasons for optimism. <br/><br/>Holly is Assistant Professor of Environment and Sustainability at the University at Buffalo and also the author of After Geoengineering: Climate Tragedy, Repair, and Restoration and co-editor of Has It Come to This? The Promise and Peril of Geoengineering on the Brink.<br/><br/><a href='https://twitter.com/hollyjeanbuck'>https://twitter.com/hollyjeanbuck</a><br/><a href='https://arts-sciences.buffalo.edu/environment-sustainability/faculty/faculty-directory/holly-buck.html'>https://arts-sciences.buffalo.edu/environment-sustainability/faculty/faculty-directory/holly-buck.html</a> <br/><a href='https://www.versobooks.com/books/3879-ending-fossil-fuels'>https://www.versobooks.com/books/3879-ending-fossil-fuels</a> <br/><a href='https://fossilfueltreaty.org/'>https://fossilfueltreaty.org/</a> <br/><br/></p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/challengingclimate">Support the show</a></p><p><a href='https://mailchi.mp/cb62b666e3c5/challenging-climate'>Subscribe for email updates</a></p>]]></content:encoded>
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  <psc:chapter start="7:38" title="Why is net zero with low residual emissions preferable?" />
  <psc:chapter start="9:29" title="Do the problems arise from fossil fuels or from large corporations? " />
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  <psc:chapter start="14:35" title="The varying prospect of ending the three fossil fuels " />
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  <psc:chapter start="29:25" title="Is it really win-win?" />
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    <itunes:title>1. Neal Stephenson on solar geoengineering and Termination Shock</itunes:title>
    <title>1. Neal Stephenson on solar geoengineering and Termination Shock</title>
    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Neal Stephenson is a leading author of science- and speculative fiction and is a recipient of the Hugo and Prometheus Awards. His most recent novel Termination Shock is an eco-thriller that explores the political fallout from the use of solar geoengineering to counter climate change. Neal, Pete, and Jesse discuss reducing greenhouse gases, carbon dioxide removal, his research process, climate impacts, public perception, billionaires in innovation vis-à-vis  the government, the roles of m...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p>Neal Stephenson is a leading author of science- and speculative fiction and is a recipient of the Hugo and Prometheus Awards. His most recent novel <em>Termination Shock </em>is an eco-thriller that explores the political fallout from the use of solar geoengineering to counter climate change. Neal, Pete, and Jesse discuss reducing greenhouse gases, carbon dioxide removal, his research process, climate impacts, public perception, billionaires in innovation vis-à-vis  the government, the roles of models in decision-making, technocracy, planetary management, social media, biotechnology, and of course, solar geoengineering.<br/><br/>Neal Stephenson’s webpage: <a href='https://nealstephenson.com/ '>https://nealstephenson.com/ </a><br/><br/>His latest book, Termination Shock: <a href='https://www.harpercollins.com/products/termination-shock-neal-stephenson'>https://www.harpercollins.com/products/termination-shock-neal-stephenson</a> <br/><br/>Neal in conversation with David Keith: <a href='https://www.facebook.com/112608362085830/videos/628795261609239/'>https://www.facebook.com/112608362085830/videos/628795261609239/</a> <br/><br/></p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/challengingclimate">Support the show</a></p><p><a href='https://mailchi.mp/cb62b666e3c5/challenging-climate'>Subscribe for email updates</a></p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Neal Stephenson is a leading author of science- and speculative fiction and is a recipient of the Hugo and Prometheus Awards. His most recent novel <em>Termination Shock </em>is an eco-thriller that explores the political fallout from the use of solar geoengineering to counter climate change. Neal, Pete, and Jesse discuss reducing greenhouse gases, carbon dioxide removal, his research process, climate impacts, public perception, billionaires in innovation vis-à-vis  the government, the roles of models in decision-making, technocracy, planetary management, social media, biotechnology, and of course, solar geoengineering.<br/><br/>Neal Stephenson’s webpage: <a href='https://nealstephenson.com/ '>https://nealstephenson.com/ </a><br/><br/>His latest book, Termination Shock: <a href='https://www.harpercollins.com/products/termination-shock-neal-stephenson'>https://www.harpercollins.com/products/termination-shock-neal-stephenson</a> <br/><br/>Neal in conversation with David Keith: <a href='https://www.facebook.com/112608362085830/videos/628795261609239/'>https://www.facebook.com/112608362085830/videos/628795261609239/</a> <br/><br/></p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/challengingclimate">Support the show</a></p><p><a href='https://mailchi.mp/cb62b666e3c5/challenging-climate'>Subscribe for email updates</a></p>]]></content:encoded>
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  <psc:chapter start="4:36" title="Why climate change" />
  <psc:chapter start="6:59" title="Solar geoengineering as a hook" />
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  <psc:chapter start="14:02" title="Emissions cuts" />
  <psc:chapter start="17:03" title="Climate change impacts" />
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  <psc:chapter start="25:04" title="Solar geoengineering in the background" />
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  <psc:chapter start="31:30" title="The power of the ultra-wealthy" />
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    <itunes:title>Trailer: Launching in January 2022</itunes:title>
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    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[We are Jesse Reynolds, an expert on environmental policy, and Peter Irvine, a climate scientist. We're launching a new podcast, Challenging Climate, in January 2022. With episodes every two weeks, we'll be challenging leading experts with tough questions about the science, technology and politics of climate change.  We'll explore how we can fight global warming by cutting greenhouse gas emissions, carbon removal, adaptation, and solar geoengineering. We will also consider the roles of co...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p>We are <a href='https://jreynolds.org/'>Jesse Reynolds</a>, an expert on environmental policy, and <a href='https://www.ucl.ac.uk/earth-sciences/people/academic/dr-peter-irvine'>Peter Irvine</a>, a climate scientist. We&apos;re launching a new podcast, Challenging Climate, in January 2022. With episodes every two weeks, we&apos;ll be challenging leading experts with tough questions about the science, technology and politics of climate change. <br/>We&apos;ll explore how we can fight global warming by cutting greenhouse gas emissions, carbon removal, adaptation, and solar geoengineering. We will also consider the roles of computer models and persuasive narratives, economics and public policy, renewable energy, and national security in the climate debate. And we’ll look beyond to issues such as biotechnology and international development.<br/>Subscribe now to follow these conversations, as we try to make clear the challenges and trade-offs of tackling climate change.</p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/challengingclimate">Support the show</a></p><p><a href='https://mailchi.mp/cb62b666e3c5/challenging-climate'>Subscribe for email updates</a></p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We are <a href='https://jreynolds.org/'>Jesse Reynolds</a>, an expert on environmental policy, and <a href='https://www.ucl.ac.uk/earth-sciences/people/academic/dr-peter-irvine'>Peter Irvine</a>, a climate scientist. We&apos;re launching a new podcast, Challenging Climate, in January 2022. With episodes every two weeks, we&apos;ll be challenging leading experts with tough questions about the science, technology and politics of climate change. <br/>We&apos;ll explore how we can fight global warming by cutting greenhouse gas emissions, carbon removal, adaptation, and solar geoengineering. We will also consider the roles of computer models and persuasive narratives, economics and public policy, renewable energy, and national security in the climate debate. And we’ll look beyond to issues such as biotechnology and international development.<br/>Subscribe now to follow these conversations, as we try to make clear the challenges and trade-offs of tackling climate change.</p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/challengingclimate">Support the show</a></p><p><a href='https://mailchi.mp/cb62b666e3c5/challenging-climate'>Subscribe for email updates</a></p>]]></content:encoded>
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