In this episode, Lillian discusses writing fanfiction as a teen, writing about friendships and finding unique perspectives in Asian American literature. 

Our Nüvoices podcast interview with Kate McKenzie, co-founder of The Polycrisis, an independent publication, newsletter, and podcast, aired on June 2, 2026, and can be found here. 

Stay tuned for new Nüvoices episodes next month as we start our fall season.

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Learn more about this episode of The Polycrisis, originally aired on April 15, 2026, here. 

A key theme of our first podcast series is that China's world-changing production of clean energy and electrification tech had little to do with solving climate change or even being seen as a leader in climate diplomacy. Instead, it's mostly a byproduct of the country's economic strategy and quest for energy independence.

But the US has also played a big role in China's strategy. The two countries were in a pro-globalisation, free-trade partnership back in 2001 when China joined the WTO; but the global financial crisis, the US shale boom, and increasing hawkishness from US administrations of both sides were all factors in the central Chinese government's decisions to become a high end electrotech manufacturer, and to ramp up its energy security with clean and local power.

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Featured this episode:

 
Jessica Chen Weiss  - Professor of China Studies and the faculty director of the Institute for America, China, and the Future of Global Affairs at Johns Hopkins University School of Advanced International Studies in Washington, DC.

Jake Werner - Director of the East Asia Program, Quincy Institute for Responsible Statecraft

Hosted by Tim Sahay and Kate Mackenzie

Produced by Sarah Allely

Original music by Russell Stapleton

Mixed by Bethany Stewart

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The Beijing-born, US-based writer joins NüVoices Chair Chenni Xu to discuss how distance (from home, from language, from certainty) became the engine of her fiction. They also get into writing characters whose lives look nothing like your own, what "daughter" and "mother" mean for Chinese women today, and writing techniques.

In this episode, Kate McKenzie shares her insights into the latest trend of climate collaboration, renewable energy development, and how we could save our planet at a time of geopolitical uncertainty.

In this episode, Selina Xu discusses her views on the current AI competition, areas of cooperation, why Americans and Chinese view technology differently, her thesis on sinofuturism, and thoughts on writing non-fiction and fiction, including speculative fiction.

In this episode, Solarina, Rui, and Yangyang speak on the struggles of scientists in the current political climate, the place of women in the intersection of politics and science, and China’s history and future in the geopolitical landscape. They also discuss Yangyang’s career as a researcher, writer, and academic, and delve into her tips for aspiring writers. 

In this episode, Yi-Ling discusses how communities from the margins navigate censorship on the Chinese internet. She also describes how her own experiences reporting for Chinese and Western media shaped her approach to Wall Dancers, her debut book.

From launching the website of NüVoices in a cafe in Beijing in 2018, to now creating two new initiatives that continue to amplify women’s and BIPOC voices, Joanna and Jessie discuss what drove them to begin this more entrepreneurial chapter of their lives. They also reflect on their China reporting in the past decade and their takeaways for emerging China journalists and professionals.

Joanna and Maya also discuss China's latest approach to Xinjiang and other ethnic minorities, and the global rise of extremism and political polarization. In a world of chaos, unreliable leadership and rising technological authoritarianism, what is the future of China human rights advocacy?

The intimate film follows a middle-aged couple and Wang Zhenxi, a "Mistress Dispeller", who is hired by the wife to end the husband's affair with a younger woman. Solarina and Elizabeth discuss the film's meditative exploration of relationships, how Wang inserts herself into this couple's life, and how the couple — and the mistress — navigate the complex dynamics and emotions of marriage and infidelity, and their place within broader Chinese society. Elizabeth also discusses the painstaking, years-long process of finding her central characters, and the remarkable trust and sensitivity required that allowed her to tell their stories.

In this episode, Barbara describes the journey of writing about twin sisters who were born in China, forcibly separated, and finally reunited through her investigative reporting. She and Jessie discuss how the book explores the historical and political nuances regarding China's One Child Policy and Family Planning institution, as well as challenges common narratives about Chinese adoptees in the US. Barbara also zooms into the powerful, emotional moment of the sisters reuniting and the two families meeting for the first time.

In this episode, Grace Shao walks us through the divergent approaches to AI deployment in China and the US, the domestic AI talent in China and the future of robotics. Grace also talks about running her newsletter AI Proem while providing consulting to tech companies and raising a toddler while being 8 months pregnant on the podcast.

In this special episode, Sophia talks to Amanda on the new and old tactics used by Washington and Beijing in the latest rounds of US-China trade disputes.

In this episode, Sonalie explores Asia’s pivotal role in climate and food tech innovation, shares practical eco-friendly tips, and reflects on whether we're witnessing a cultural shift away from overconsumption.

In this episode, Wenchi discusses how her identity is the throughline of her career in labor rights, civil rights, diplomacy, media and non-profit leadership from being  Hakka in Taiwan, to the US, to Mainland China and back to the US again.

In this episode, Anne discusses her journey from academic scholarship to a personal, deeply vulnerable "new kind of writing." After decades of teaching as one of the foremost scholars of race, literature, and aesthetics at Princeton University, a series of personal and political crises led Anne to grapple with what it means to live firsthand as an Asian American woman in our world. Stephanie and Anne talk about the challenges of "finding your voice" in the first person, the double bind of the model minority myth, and the problem with how Americans think about who deserves social justice — "as though attention to nonwhite groups, their histories and conditions, is only as pressing as the injuries that they have suffered." Anne also shares her personal experiences of grieving her father, a tragic series of student suicides, and the complexities of interracial marriage. Finally, Stephanie and Anne explore what it takes to find and sustain an "ordinary faith" in the midst of all these "ordinary disasters."

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China’s leader, Mao Zedong famously said that “Women hold up half the sky.” But these days it doesn’t feel that way in China. Unfair marriage rules, difficulties getting a divorce, barriers to owning property and many more restrictions are challenging women to speak out, and act. We’ll hear about the Chinese “leftover women” who are veering from the traditional path and about the Chinese feminists of today.

Guest:  Leta Hong Fincher, author, Leftover Women. 

Recommended Books: Leftover Women: The Resurgence of Gender Inequality in China by Leta Hong Fincher

Tiananmen Square by Lai Wen

Sound design, original score, mixing and mastering by Rowhome Productions. Rowhome’s Creative Director is Alex Lewis. John Myers is Rowhome’s Executive Producer.

In this episode, Emily and Joanna discuss her recent reporting trip to Syria, how her waiting at the Beijing Airport inspired her to write a book about identity in China, and how important the idea of being Chinese is to non-Chinese people and government policies. Emily also talks about her approach to journalism and why she insists on revealing the soft sides of Chinese people who went through some most challenging and difficult events in the wake of censorship and government control.

In this episode, Sue-Lin discusses her inspiration for Scam Inc. following her award-winning podcast series The Prince, how she conducted the investigation, how scams affect victims, and how pervasive the multi-billion dollar scam industry is globally. The model is no longer a top-down hierarchy such as the traditional mafia network, but more like a gig economy where anyone can tap in and become a scam artist. What does this say about the structural problems in place in the formal economy in terms of inequality? Sue-Lin, Chenni and Megan discuss all these issues and more.

In this episode, Jane discusses her long-standing foreign correspondence career, which spans Africa, Europe, Asia and the United States, and lessons learned along the way, including the most surprising thing that happened to her during her tenure in China. She touches on handling risk as a foreign correspondent, how to cover stories despite being not in region, and what she is up to now -- podcasting. She discusses why she finds audio journalism to be "her medium", season 1 of her podcast “Face-Off: the US versus China with Jane Perlez and Rana Mitter" and gives us previews of what to expect during Season 2, which premieres February 11.

In this encore episode of the NüVoices podcast, historians Arlene Chan and Melanie Ng chat with us about the first Chinese migrants who made their way to Canada in the 19th century. From there, Arlene and Melanie retrace the throughline of Chinese Canadian migration, from exclusionary anti-Chinese immigration laws to present-day Sinophobia found in many Western countries today.

We also learn about Arlene’s trailblazing mother, Jean Lumb, who played a major role in changing Canada’s racist immigration laws.

Throughout the episode, we hear from Sheila, a Chinese immigrant who came to Canada following the turmoil of WWII and the Chinese Civil War. Many thanks to Solarina Ho, who hosted this episode and Joanna Chiu, who recorded Sheila’s riveting first-hand account of her immigration journey.

We are ending our spring 2024 season with a collaboration between NüVoices and four students from the University of British Columbia's Human Rights in a Globalized World class. Over the course of last semester, these students conducted interviews and tied their research into their coursework.

Part I (which starts at 1:25) is with Yi Chien Jade Ho, a postdoctoral fellow at the University of Victoria, about her anti-gentrification efforts and tenant organizing in Vancouver’s Chinatown. With students Vanessa Matsubara and Kylla Castillo, Yi Chien discusses her work protesting the Keefer 105 Project.

Part II (which starts at 21:26) is Dr. Judith Shapiro of American University on the intersection of social and political influences that shape environmental challenges in China.

In November 2023, both China and the U.S. pledged to work together to increase renewable energy sources and lower carbon emissions. But what are the unexamined effects of China’s environmental policy implementation? In this episode, students Jake Yuen and Ariyana Dina seek to answer these questions as they consult Dr. Shapiro’s expertise on China’s environmental movements and policy. 

Many thanks to UBC course coordinator Gaylean Davies for working with us. 

This week on the podcast, host Jessie Lau speaks with Leta about why the book is still as relevant today and what has changed (for better and for worse) since the book was first published. Leta shares the book’s origin story and how she started researching ‘leftover women’ in the first place while pursuing a PhD at Tsinghua University. Jessie and Leta also discuss whether women in China are still facing the same immense pressure to settle down, get married, and have a family. Lastly, Leta outlines how she went about rewriting this latest edition and what topics she felt were important to include in the new preface. 

Leslie Tai, the creative force behind this documentary, is a recipient of the 2019 Creative Capital Award and an MFA graduate from Stanford University. Leslie's short films have graced prestigious platforms like Tribeca Film Festival and MoMA.

Solarina and Leslie engage in a thought-provoking conversation exploring the intricate dynamics of trust-building with the women at the heart of the film. Leslie shares the challenges of maintaining detachment in the face of personal and often harrowing stories. The dialogue also navigates the evolving landscape of birth tourism post-Trump and amid the COVID-19 pandemic, unraveling the tensions between these women and the adjacent American communities.

In this episode,  we speak to artist and illustrator Pearl Low on the difficulties of finding safe spaces for language learning, especially for heritage language learners. Heritage language learners are people who have a certain language in their family, can understand it to a basic degree, but cannot speak it fluently.  Learning a heritage language can be especially difficult because of the immense cultural expectations, lack of resources, and the harmful legacy of assimilation and racism in many countries (where speaking a foreign language could bring great prejudice or harm.)

Pearl knows firsthand the difficulties in finding an inclusive environment to learn your heritage language. That’s why they founded Cantonese Connection, a learning platform with resources to learn Cantonese in a way that feels welcoming and open — no matter one's familiarity with the language. 

Join host Megan Cattel and Pearl as they candidly address the delicate experiences of navigating heritage languages within one's family circle, discuss the do's and don'ts of heritage language learning, and also try to figure out why Chinese language textbooks always feature a guy named Dawei (the businessman) in all their examples.

Wen Liu and our host, Sophia Yan, explore the movement's origins, its pivotal moments, and the courageous individuals who paved the way for progress.

Furthermore, the conversation touches on the challenges that lie ahead for the LGBTQ community in Taiwan, providing a nuanced understanding of the ongoing struggles and areas that require attention and support.

Lovell is professor of Modern Chinese History and Literature at Birkbeck, University of London. Lovell is a translator of Chinese literature, and has also written books such as The Politics of Cultural Capital: China's Quest for a Nobel Prize in Literature and The Great Wall: China Against the World 1000 BC – AD 2000. Lovell has also written articles on the topic of China for the likes of The Guardian, The Times, and The Economist.

We provide pro bono legal services for the wrongfully convicted, work to redress the causes of wrongful convictions, and support the exonerated after they are proven innocent. We also urge to reform the criminal justice system and seek institutional changes to prevent innocent people from entering a flawed legal process in the first place.

TIP only accepts post-conviction cases that claim to be innocent, either with flawed forensic evidence or severe due process violation. We also seeks to support our clients during and after exonerations.

We hope to create an open and dynamic space that can spur more public discussion and the exchange of ideas to resolve the problem of wrongful conviction. We hold training workshops for attorneys, ask experts from different disciplines to give talks, and hold campus tours to share the stories of the innocent people and to show documentaries about their lives.

In 2015, we officially joined the Innocence Network, and became the second member in Asia. In 2018, we, along with innocence organizations and activists from Taiwan, Japan, South Korea, and Singapore, co-signed the “Statement of the Asian Innocence Movement Activists,” collectively devoting ourselves into addressing wrongful convictions in Asia." 

We’ll be discussing the recent news of Coco Lee’s death, and the hosts share their favorite songs as well as what the singer meant to them. They’ll also dive into U.S. Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen’s visit to Beijing during a time of worsening relations between the two countries.

On a slightly lighter note, the hosts also discuss the Netflix show Never Have I Ever about an Indian-American teenager and her family reconciling the two cultures and coming to terms with the intergenerational differences within the family.

We would like to take this 100th episode to thank all our listeners and especially our Patreon subscribers! NüVoices is a non-profit organization and we appreciate all your support – even if it’s just a recommendation of the podcast to your friends. 

For this first installment of the Taiwan mini-series, host Sophia Yan speaks to Yu-Jie Chen, an assistant research fellow from Academic Sinica who focuses on Human Rights and International relations with a specific focus on cross-strait relations.

Not only does Yu-Jie provide listeners with one of the clearest, most succinct summaries of three hundred years of Taiwanese history, but she also delves into how political and personal identities on the island have changed in the past three decades. With cross-strait tensions worsening in recent years, what does the future hold for Taiwan? 

Yu-Jie also explains how the ambiguity of the 1992 Consensus has caused the modern-day complexities in the region. 

Taiwan is so much more than the occasional headline, so make sure you don’t miss this episode!

Far & Near aims to depict China in all its complexity by shining a light on the country's visual journalism and showing the human side of some of the biggest headlines coming out of the country. At a time where in-depth, on-the-ground reporting on China is becoming all the more stripped down, Far & Near is a much-needed glimpse into the everyday reality for people living in China.

Beimeng and Charlotte can sometimes spend up to 45 hours working on a single issue. The newsletter has covered topics from the residents living in the apartment blocks that were abandoned during constructions due to the real estate crisis, to the nation's outrage over the Chained Woman last year. During the A4 protests, they provided a guideline for foreign journalists to help protect the identities of protestors, which became a popular document used by newsrooms worldwide.

During the course of the episode, Beimeng and Charlotte talk about their work for the newsletter as both a labor of love  and a much needed perspective from inside China. With more magazine and newspaper closures in recent days, Beimeng and Charlotte are determined to do all that is necessary to increase readership and make the newsletter a project for the long-term.

Jan was one of very few foreigners able to travel to China during the Cultural Revolution where she talked herself into studying at Peking University before working as a news assistant in the New York Times’ first Beijing bureau. Back then, the “office” consisted of two rooms in the Peking Hotel, one for the journalist and one that Jan shared with the driver and an interpreter.

Jan Wong details how she then went on to hone her journalism skills at Columbia’s School of Journalism, eventually working as a business reporter for the Wall Street Journal and The Globe and Mail. When an opportunity came up to work as a foreign correspondent at The Globe and Mail’s Beijing Bureau, Jan made it her mission to get the role. After landing the job, Jan describes what it was like reporting from China during the 1980s, a bubbling tension that eventually culminated in the Tiananmen Massacre which Jan not only reported on but witnessed from a hotel overlooking the square.

Joanna speaks to Jan about life as a student during the Cultural Revolution and her journey into journalism, as well as the advantages of being a Chinese-Canadian when reporting from China. They also delve into the current relations between China and Canada, and the alleged secret police stations that the CCP has been setting across Canada and the United States.

May is Asian Pacific Islander Heritage Month in Canada and the United States! This month, we’re partnering with House of Anansi, Canada’s leading indie publisher. Throughout the month of May, 10% of book sales on HouseofAnansi.com will be donated to NüVoices. Check out their online shop to support independent publishing and our work too! Thank you so much to House of Anansi for partnering with us. 

During the course of this discussion, Emily explains her process of translating work, and the special relationship she develops to writers who are bilingual themselves. The result is often a collaborative process, as Emily herself explains, “In a way, you basically develop a voice for them in the English language. Which they, in turn, being bilingual themselves, come to inhabit as well.”

Megan and Emily also discuss the essentialization of Chinese science fiction, where writers are often expected to answer questions on Chinese political issues completely unrelated to their work. As Emily points out in the discussion, her community of Chinese science fiction writers are usually just "sci-fi nerds," telling universal truths about the human condition.

This is a fascinating conversation about the power of language and the role of a translator, not merely to translate words, but as a mediator between cultures.

About Emily Xueni Jin: an essayist, science fiction and fantasy translator, translating both from Chinese to English and the other way around. She graduated from Wellesley College in 2017, and she is currently a PhD candidate in East Asian Languages and Literature at Yale University. Her most recent Chinese to English translations can be found in “The Way Spring Arrives and Other Stories”, the first Chinese speculative fiction anthology in translation produced by female and non-binary creators, and “AI2041: Ten Visions for Our Future”, a collection of science fiction and essays cowritten by Dr. Kaifu Lee and Chen Qiufan. She’s currently a columnist for Sixth Tone.

Tania points out that Xi has begun dismantling the protections that were put in place after the Cultural Revolution and the parallels between that period and Xi’s rising cult of personality.

This is a riveting conversation about memory, intergeneraional  trauma, betrayal, mob mentality, and a deep look into what we are all capable of as human beings.

(Red Memory was released in the UK on February 2nd, 2023. The US edition's release date is May 9th, 2023.) 

About Tania Branigan: 

Tania is the Foreign Leader Writer and former China Correspondent at The Guardian. Her writing has also appeared in The Australian and The Washington Post. Red Memory is her first book. 

In this episode, Liza also helps us understand how Covid sparked the deployment of more invasive technology and how it was behind the swift response by the police to quash the recent A4 protests.

The surveillance affects her work, too. Currently based in Singapore, Liza explains the difficulties of reporting on China from abroad when Wechat conversations can be cut off instantly if too many sensitive terms are picked up by voice recognition technology. Though this riveting conversation paints a bleak picture, the work of journalists like Liza offers a glimpse of hope. This is an episode you don’t want to miss!

About Liza Lin:

Liza is an award-winning technology reporter at The Wall Street Journal who has covered China for over a decade. Her work has covered artificial intelligence, surveillance, venture capital, and more. 

Yilin Wang (she/they) is a Vancouver-based writer, editor, Chinese-English translator, educator, and cultural consultant who was longlisted for the 2020 CBC Poetry Prize and a finalist for the Far Horizons Award for Short Fiction. Her work engages with topics such as Chinese folklore, martial arts literature (wuxia), diaspora identities, gender expectations, migration, and cultural reclamation. Some of Yilin’s work translating the Chinese revolutionary feminist Qiū Jǐn’s 秋瑾 poetry was recently featured on NüVoices' website.

In 2018, Yilin spent months travelling around China for research, leading to the launch of the #LiteraryJianghu Project to promote engagement with wuxia and related Chinese literary traditions.

Yilin chats with NüVoices chair Joanna Chiu about the fascinating themes and genres of their work, and about the day-to-day realities and power politics of being a creative writing and translation professional in North America. For further reading from Yilin on racism in Canadian literature, see her Carte Blanche essay here.  

Recommendations:  

Yilin: The wuxia series Legend of Condor Heroes, translated by Anna Holmwood and Gigi Chang and Grace Lau's debut poetry collection The Language We Were Never Taught to Speak.  

Joanna: China: The Novel, by Edward Rutterfurd for an immersive narrative approach to learning about 19th century Chinese history, and Yilin's website!

Clarissa's forthcoming book, Made in Taiwan: Recipes From The Island Nation, is expected for release in 2023. 

On the pod, Clarissa talks about how she first got into food journalism, finding stories while backpacking in China, and her current freelance projects while based in Taipei. She also discusses her thoughts on authenticity discourse around diasporic cooking and her passion for elevating Taiwanese stories for international audiences. 

This episode was hosted by journalist Solarina Ho, who is based in Toronto, Canada. This is her NüVoices podcast hosting debut! 

Meia is a senior fellow for Chinese Defence Policy and Military Modernisation, and the Defence and Military Analysis Programme, at the International Institute for Strategic Studies (IISS), a London-based think tank. She helps us dig deeper into what China’s display of force can tell us about its military capabilities and how far China has to go before they’re ready for a full-fledged invasion.

Veerle is a senior research fellow for Asia Studies and head of the Indo-Pacific Programme at the International Security Studies department of the Royal United Services Institute focusing on geopolitical relations in the Indo-Pacific region.

Sophia Yan, China correspondent for The Telegraph and NuVoices Board member, hosts this week’s episode.

This episode was produced by Saga Ringmar with help from Lauren Lau, our newest podcast team members! Big kudos for their first episode. 

As Erica made her way through this sprawling landscape of mostly Chinese businesses in one of the most East Asian cities in the country, she peeked into the dreams, annoyances, and love lives of dim sum diners, shop owners, security guards, young children, young parents, weightlifters, all-night partiers, and one very skilled harmonica player.

But as she grasped for some universal truth that would tie all the threads of the mall, Erica realized that the unpredictable, unresolved mess of everyday life is exactly what makes it something to treasure."

The film features scenes of quotidian working life in a period when the government has begun to promote the “Chinese Dream,” spanning textile and sex doll factories to etiquette school and social media influencers all the way to luxurious water parks and tropical vacation resorts. Together, these scenes raise provocative questions about China’s blindingly rapid development, the uneven pace of upward mobility, and whether China is an exotic outlier or a recognizably modern society, comparable with life in the US and other societies worldwide (all to music by Dan Deacon)."

But The Impossible City is not just an account of Hong Kong’s harrowing moments of crisis and turmoil. It is also about the struggle to navigate the city’s housing market, the mental healthcare system, strained family relationships, and Karen’s search for belonging in the place she calls home.

This episode is hosted by Jessie Lau, fellow Hong Kong writer and journalist, NüVoices board member and editor of our online magazine NüStories! Together, they discuss Karen’s writing process, her connection to Hong Kong’s indie music scene, the ongoing gatekeeping and coloniality in Asia’s journalism industry, and mental health stigma within Chinese culture.

She frequently testifies to parliaments around the world and is the author of China, Cambodia and the Five Principles of Peaceful Coexistence, which examines Chinese foreign policy since the 1954 Geneva Conference. She speaks Mandarin, earned a doctorate from the University of Virginia and a BA from Oberlin College. 

Sophie joins Sophia Yan, NüVoices board member and Telegraph China correspondent, to discuss human rights in China, what it feels like to be sanctioned by the Chinese government, and how HRW keeps its staff healthy mentally and emotionally healthy given demanding work.

She has also been posted to the New Zealand Permanent Mission to the United Nations in Geneva. While working in the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and Trade in Wellington, she was director-general for north Asia, and has led international trade litigation, including cases at the WTO. 

Ambassador Fearnley has arts and law degrees from the University of Canterbury. She is a Mandarin speaker, and studied at Beijing University and at the Beijing Languages Institute in the 1980s. 

Clare joins NuVoices board member and Telegraph correspondent Sophia Yan to chat about New Zealand-China relations, how and why Asia piqued her interest early on, and New Zealand’s gender equality successes.

Barbara has won many awards for her work, including the Samuel Johnson prize (now the Baillie Gifford prize) for non-fiction in the UK, the Overseas Press Club's human rights reporting award, the George Polk Award, the Robert F Kennedy Award, and Stanford University's Shorenstein Award for Asia coverage. Her North Korea book was a finalist for the National Book Award and the National Book Critics Circle Award. She was a press fellow at the Council on Foreign Relations, a Bagehot fellow in business journalism at Columbia University, and a visiting professor of journalism at Princeton University. She grew up in New Jersey, graduated from Yale College, and now lives in New York City.

Barbara joins NuVoices board member Sophia Yan to discuss her most recent book, Eat the Buddha, which tells the story of Ngaba, a town high on a Tibetan plateau that is one of the most hidden corners of the world, and near-impossible for foreigners to visit. Through the rich tales of those linked to this town, Barbara illuminates decades of intertwined Tibetan and Chinese history, and explores what it means to be Tibetan today — to preserve a culture, faith and language despite all odds. Barbara talks about navigating reporting on China, despite the challenges, imparts sage writing advice, and previews her next book in the works. 

Recommendations:

Sophia: Read Barbara's books! Eat the Buddha; Nothing to Envy; Logavina Street. Also this fascinating New Yorker article from May that I just read (the issues take forever to arrive abroad) about cutting-edge research on using electricity to regenerate limbs.

Barbara: The Ministry for the Future, a science fiction book set in the near future about people trying to save the world from the ravages of climate change. I was reading it as the New York City subways flooded from the tail of Hurricane Ida. 

Evan Osnos' forthcoming Wildland: The Making of America's Fury, about how America is tearing itself apart with political polarization. 

Yes, I know you'd say not exactly soothing bedtime reading. More cheerful listening to podcaster Mike Duncan's Hero of Two Worlds about the Marquis de Lafayette.

Self-Care Suggestions:

Sophia: Not looking at your phone and emails/messages the minute you wake up! Try setting a timeframe – say half an hour – or perhaps until your morning routine is over (ie brushing teeth, washing face, making/having breakfast. Look out the window, enjoy your coffee/tea/Oatly/delivered

On this episode, Lotus joins DC chapter member Rui Zhong to talk about her research on Chinese app privacy, Apple's “Chinese operations equilibrium,” and why China's technology policy process is so challenging to navigate.

Recommendations:

Lotus: The Taiwanese television series The Making of an Ordinary Woman.

Rui: The video game Hades (Supergiant Games).

Self-care suggestions:

Lotus: Reconnecting with friends. 

Rui: Omni Foundation classical guitar concerts.

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Recommendations:

Shunan: Audiobooks by online writer Yuè Guān 月关.

Cindy: The Israeli television show Shtisel, and the French television show The Bureau. 

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Kathleen and Washington, D.C., NüVoices chapter member Rui Zhong examined the state of science reporting in China in reference to current lab theories of the origins of COVID-19. The current discussions can be couched in both the government’s handling of HIV and AIDS and the recent CRISPR scientist controversy.

Recommendations: 

Kathleen: How the Word Is Passed: A Reckoning with the History of Slavery Across America, by Clint Smith.

Rui: Hola Papi: How to Come Out in a Walmart Parking Lot and Other Life Lessons, by John Paul Brammer.

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Sophia chats with NüVoices chair Joanna Chiu about why there are so few foreign correspondents on the ground in mainland China, and whether we risk losing nuanced and immediate coverage of China. They also discuss what Sophia learned from her recent reporting trip in Xinjiang about the "new phase" of persecution against Uyghurs, forced factory labor, and how a Hilton hotel is rising in the wreckage of a bulldozed mosque. For their efforts, Sophia and her colleague faced violent obstruction from police and plainclothes thugs. Read her personal account about obstacles on the ground. Watch her Xinjiang documentary series here, and look for her new podcast series, Hong Kong Silenced, about the city's shrinking freedoms under the national security law that will launch on June 30.

Recommendations: 

Sophia: The book The War on the Uyghurs, by Sean Roberts; Anna Fifield's portrait of Kim Jong-un, The Great Successor; a documentary on the assassination of Jamal Khashoggi, The Dissident; and a book about meditation as self-care, Wherever You Go, There You Are, by Jon Kabat-Zinn.

Joanna: Megha Rajagopalan's Pulitzer-winning reporting on Xinjiang and the new report "No Space Left to Run: China's Transnational Repression of Uyghurs" from the Uyghur Human Rights Project and the Oxus Society for Central Asian Affairs.

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In 2018, Yilin spent months travelling around China for research, leading to the launch of the #LiteraryJianghu Project to promote engagement with wuxia and related Chinese literary traditions.

Yilin chats with NüVoices chair Joanna Chiu about the fascinating themes and genres of their work, and about the day-to-day realities and power politics of being a creative writing and translation professional in North America. For further reading from Yilin on racism in Canadian literature, see her Carte Blanche essay here.  

Recommendations:  

Yilin: The wuxia series Legend of Condor Heroes, translated by Anna Holmwood and Gigi Chang and Grace Lau's debut poetry collection The Language We Were Never Taught to Speak.  

Joanna: China: The Novel, by Edward Rutterfurd for an immersive narrative approach to learning about 19th century Chinese history, and Yilin's website!

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Recommendations:

Sophie: Small Country, by Gaël Faye, and Yi Yi, by Edward Yang.

Cindy: The docuseries Sunderland ’Til I Die and episode 497 of the popular Chinese podcast Story FM.

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But Australia used to be one of the strongest supporters of forging closer ties with China. NüVoices chair Joanna Chiu, author of the new book China Unbound on Beijing's deteriorating global relations with Western countries, chats with former Australian diplomat Natasha Kassam on how Australia-China relations has hit such a low point and why diplomatic tensions seem to have impacted Australians of Chinese heritage the most. 

Kassam is the director of the Lowy Institute’s Public Opinion and Foreign Policy Program, researching Australia’s Indo-Pacific strategy, China’s domestic politics, Taiwan, and Australia-China relations. Before joining the Lowy Institute, Kassam was responsible for government policy on human rights and legal issues in China, and drafted the Australian government’s 2017 Foreign Policy White Paper. 

Recommendations:  

Natasha: The new book The Beijing Bureau; also, the Lowy Institute's interactive survey feature on experiences of Chinese-Australian communities where one in five said they were physically threatened or attacked because of their Chinese background in the previous year. 

Joanna: An essay by Bobo Lo, Global Order in the Shadow of the Coronavirus.

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​In this wide-ranging conversation with Cindy Gao, Dolly talks about video journalism and the power of visual storytelling, documenting multi-generational immigrant and Asian-American stories, and navigating her own evolving identity throughout her years living and working around the world.

Recommendations:

Cindy: The PBS film series Asian Americans and The Chinese Exclusion Act, this short video about Grace Lee Boggs, and the Netflix TV series Hip-Hop Evolution. 

Dolly: Lot, by Bryan Washington, and this interview featuring Bryan Washington and Ocean Vuong.

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Inspired by her years living in Beijing and Hong Kong as a foreign correspondent for the Wall Street Journal, Chen drew upon her travels and the remarkable lives of people she met to construct a world that didn't fit neatly into news reports. 

The debut author speaks with NüVoices chair Joanna Chiu and New York chapter member Megan Cattel on her observations of modern China, the transferable skills of journalism to fiction, and advice on navigating the publishing industry. 

Recommendations: 

Te-Ping: Do Not Say We Have Nothing, by Madeleine Thien, and Both Ways Is the Only Way I Want It, by Maile Meloy.

Joanna: Piranesi, by Susanna Clarke, Invisible, by Paul Auster, and The Woo-Woo, by Lindsay Wong. 

Megan: Notes of a Crocodile, by Qiu Miaojin (English translation by Bonnie Huie), I Was Their American Dream, by Malaka Gharib, and The Wedding Banquet, directed by Ang Lee.

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Jenny and NüVoices board member Chenni Xu discuss her creative process, what it takes to be a documentary filmmaker, the emotional toll the film took (as well as mental health recommendations for filmmakers), and the story of Yingying and its impact.

Finding Yingying is available to stream in virtual cinemas around the world.

Recommendations:

• Last Train Home
• The Times of Harvey Milk 

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Recommendations: 

• Why Taiwan Matters: Small Island, Global Powerhouse, by Shelley Rigger.
• The Legislative Intent of the Taiwan Relations Act: A Dilemma Wrapped in an Enigma, by Lester L. Wolff.
• Toward a stronger U.S.-Taiwan relationship, by Bonnie S. Glaser.
• Pompeo’s 11th hour change in Taiwan policy does Taipei no favors, by Michael J. Green, Bonnie S. Glaser, and Richard Bush.
• Frozen Garlic, a blog by Nathan Batto. 
• Ghost Island Media, a Taiwan-based podcast network.

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In this conversation, Rita and NüVoices board member Chenni Xu talk about the “war stories” of the beginnings of Chinese fintech, the future of fintech, and money and gender representation in the industry.

Disclaimer: Views represented are the personal views of the host and interviewee.

Recommendations:

Rita: The Currency Cold War: Cash and Cryptography, Hash Rates and Hegemony, by David Birch, and The Bitcoin Standard: The Decentralized Alternative to Central Banking, by Saifedean Ammous.

Chenni: The works of Shirley Hazzard.

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Recommendations:

Tiffany: Matthew McConaughey's autobiography, Greenlights; the Netflix series The Queen’s Gambit, Emily in Paris, and My Octopus Teacher; and The Biggest Bluff, by Maria Konnikova.

Cindy: Three documentaries: Sing Me a Lullaby, Then Comes The Evening, and Flower Punk.

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Ashley is a former research associate for the Energy, Economics, and Security program at the Center for a New American Security. Her research interests include U.S.-China trade relations, China’s economic policies, and China’s global economic footprint. She has previously worked at the Council on Foreign Relations, the National Defense University, the Congressional Research Service, the Congressional-Executive Commission on China, and the China Affairs office in the Office of the U.S. Trade Representative. 

Recommendations:

A report co-authored by Ashley for the Center for a New American Security, A new arsenal for competition; China’s use of coercive economic measures, by Peter Harrell, Elizabeth Rosenberg, and Edoardo Saravalle; Economic statecraft and the revenge of the state, by Darren J. Lim; and Chinese perspectives on economic diplomacy, by Audrye Wong.

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In this episode, Anne and Cindy Gao talk about the translator's relationship and responsibility to the original texts and their authors, the beauty and nuance of great translation, and the impact COVID-19 has had on the tone of online discourse and translated works.

Links to the translations mentioned in this interview:

• Tang Danhong, “Tarim, My Uyghur Friend,” China Channel, Aug. 2020, https://chinachannel.org/2020/08/28/tarim-uyghur/
• He Xiaoxin, “How Far Can I Go? How Much Can I Do?” China Digital Times, Aug. 2015, https://chinadigitaltimes.net/2015/08/he-xiaoxin-how-far-can-i-go-and-how-much-can-i-do/
• Tang Danhong, “Chairman Mao Is Dead!” China Channel, Oct. 2017, https://chinachannel.org/2017/10/12/chairman-mao-dead/ 
• republished Jul. 2019 in Mānoa: A Pacific Journal of International Writing, https://muse.jhu.edu/issue/42693/print),

Translated poetry:

• Yu Xiuhua, “Mourning Li Wenliang,” China Digital Times, Feb. 2019, https://chinadigitaltimes.net/2020/02/translation-a-poem-for-dr-li-wenliang-and-a-call-for-free-speech/
• Meng Lang, “To China, to the Bystanders,” Cha: An Asian Literary Journal, Jul. 2019, https://www.asiancha.com/wp/article/to-china/
• Also, check out Yu Xinqiao’s bilingual book of poetry, The Last Lyric, translated by Yunte Huang, at https://www.spdbooks.org/Products/9780998743837/the-last-lyric.aspx.

Some writing:

• "Huang Xueqin: 'To Resist Tyranny, Start Small,'" China Digital Times, Dec. 2019, https://chinadigitaltimes.net/2019/12/huang-xueqin-to-resist-tyranny-start-small/
• "Of Rice Bunnies and Grass-Mud Horses," China Channel, Feb. 2018, https://chinachannel.org/2018/02/27/rice-bunnies-grass-mud-horses/
• "Finding a Common Thread: A History of Chinese Language," Los Angeles Review of Books, Aug. 2016, http://blog.lareviewofbooks.org/chinablog/common-thread-history-chinese-dialects/

Finally, some links to works by the authors mentioned during the interview:

• Yu Xinqiao: https://www.s

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Recommendations:

Yunnan: Entangled Life: How Fungi Make Our Worlds, Change Our Minds & Shape Our Futures, by Merlin Sheldrake, as well as the TV series Queer Eye, available on Netflix.

Cindy: All or Nothing, a documentary about the Tottenham Hotspur Football Club, Cindy’s favorite team in the English Premier League.

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As U.S.-China tensions ratchet up, is there a future for movies that try to cross cultural divides and bring ordinary people together? Does politics play a role when Chinese viewers reject art from America? NüVoices chair Joanna Chiu turns to Rebecca Davis, a reporter covering China's entertainment industry, to provide much-needed context and insights. 

Guest: Rebecca Davis is Variety’s China bureau chief, establishing the magazine’s first permanent outpost in the country in 2018. Davis covers all aspects of China’s entertainment industry, and has a special interest in the intersection between culture and politics in authoritarian systems. Fluent in Mandarin and French, she has a decade of experience in China, including stints at Agence France-Presse, the New York Times, and Le Monde.

Recommended reading:

• Chinese audience reviews of Mulan on Douban 
• SupChina: Why Chinese viewers hate Disney’s ‘Mulan’ 
• Variety: China box office: ‘Mulan’ is no hero with $23 million debut

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For each article in the series, Huang interviews one person — often a stranger, and usually someone on the margins of society — and tells that person’s story. She has profiled housekeepers (“If I had to live my life again, I’d probably lead the exact same life”), blind masseuses (“Only a few know my full name here, they just call me ‘Number Five’”), fortune-tellers (“Now that all the good stuff I’ve wanted is finally here, it’s already too late, and I’m old”), barbers (“I wasn’t dreaming big, anyway”), and more, getting them to reveal personal details along with their misgivings, their regrets, and their dreams. 

Among other subjects, she and Anthony talked about her methods, her interviewees, herself, and also this one guy who may have eaten human flesh. We hope you enjoy this episode.

(Huang has also written for SupChina in the past, on topics such as Li Wenliang and the “online wailing wall” and Chinese parents who lose their only child.)

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Guests: Megha Rajagopalan, international correspondent at BuzzFeed News; Hai-Ching Yang, senior corporate counsel for Coursera; and Julia Fan, co-chair of the Coalition for Adolescent Girls.  

You can sign a Change.org petition to support the Fulbright program in China and Hong Kong here, and share infographics through social media here. 

Recommended reading:

• The danger of a single story, by Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie 
• The Warmth of Other Suns: The Epic Story of America's Great Migration, by Isabel Wilkerson 
• A podcast, Seeing White 
• The cost of ending Fulbright in China, by Eleanor Albert  
• Donald Trump’s ending of the Fulbright programme in Hong Kong and China damages US soft power, by Scott Laderman
• Bring back Fulbright exchange programme with Hong Kong and China that Trump seeks to end, South China Morning Post
• Barring Fulbright scholars in Hong Kong and China will only hurt U.S. interests, by Amanda H. Schmidt
• Cutting off Fulbright exchange program further shrinks our world, by Denise Glover
• The Fulbright U.S. Student Program website

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Recommendations:

Simone: Educated, by Tara Westover.

Cindy: The works of Grace Lee Boggs.

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In this conversation recorded in Johannesburg and New York City, Shantha and NüVoices board member Chenni Xu talk about South-South development, gender-equality-driven social enterprises, infrastructure in Africa, how to form meaningful partnerships, and renewable energy and sustainability.

Recommendations:

Shantha: Mrs. America on Hulu, and Big Sister, Little Sister, Red Sister, by Jung Chang.

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• How Nairobi is a city with a plot
• Why covering women's issues helps us understand power
• "Ecosystems" of violence in Nairobi's informal settlements
• Why the opposite of Sinophobia is not Sinophilia, but nuance
• What is missing in "China-Africa" discourse

Resources: 

A lost ‘Little Africa’: How China, too, blames foreigners for the virus, Sinophobia spreads faster than the coronavirus, and A death penalty for the poor, by April Zhu. 

Recommendations:

April: The Dragonfly Sea, by Yvonne Adhiambo Owuor. 

Cindy: The TV series What We Do in the Shadows, available on Hulu.

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• How Nairobi is a city with a plot
• Why covering women's issues helps us understand power
• "Ecosystems" of violence in Nairobi's informal settlements
• Why the opposite of Sinophobia is not Sinophilia, but nuance
• What is missing in "China-Africa" discourse

Resources: 

A lost ‘Little Africa’: How China, too, blames foreigners for the virus and Sinophobia spreads faster than the coronavirus, by April Zhu. 

Recommendations:

April: The Dragonfly Sea, by Yvonne Adhiambo Owuor. 

Cindy: The TV series What We Do in the Shadows, available on Hulu.

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In this episode, Qian and NüVoices board member Chenni Xu talk about her time at Alibaba, what she learned from that cross-cultural bridge-building exercise, how her dual perspectives help give voice to the Chinese global citizen, and her time at HBS. The pair also chat about traditional Chinese medicine and non-allopathic modalities of healing. Qian’s mission-driven The Pu'er Movement seeks to fight rising divisiveness by fostering the exchange of perspectives, cultures, and values, one cup of pu’er tea at a time.

This episode was recorded on May 16, 2020.

Recommendations:

Qian: The book The Righteous Mind: Why Good People Are Divided by Politics and Religion, by Jonathan Haight, and two shows on Netflix: Madam Secretary and American Factory.

Chenni: Becoming, streaming on Netflix.

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For Chinese journalist Yuan Ren, who has worked as a Time Out magazine editor and a columnist for U.K. newspapers The Telegraph and The Prospect, transitioning into broadcast media helped her fire up her creativity and experiment with creative storytelling. 

In this episode, she shares her best tips and tricks for making the switch from print to digital journalism with NüVoices chair Joanna Chiu. The two also discuss what it is like to build a career in Western mainstream media as younger women of Chinese descent. 

Yuan is a fully bilingual journalist who has written about science, technology, Chinese culture, and current affairs. Originally from Beijing, she began as the Around Town editor at Time Out Beijing. Yuan was a regular contributor to The Telegraph's Wonder Woman column on Chinese women and gender, and a monthly columnist for Prospect magazine. She is now based in London and works as a producer and reporter for Bloomberg TV and the technology show Click at BBC World — see Yuan's post on Twitter for a video of the latter. She also loves to make video blogs about traditional Chinese food and restaurants. 

Follow Yuan for the latest in Chinese culture and food via YouTube and Instagram.

Recommendations: 

Yuan: Get enough sleep and put your phone in a different room before bed. I like to track my sleep on my Garmin sports watch, which I have for running. Headspace, Calm, and Insight Timer are all great apps for sleep and meditation (have it on your iPad, not phone), but many centers like the London Buddhist Centre offer live, guided meditations online. Staying active is so important, and I'm part of a running club — it's cheap and sociable, and you'll improve so fast you'll wish you joined earlier. There are lots of virtual races for runners, cyclists, and swimmers during lockdown, which you do solo but post results online. Strava is the social network for athletes worldwide.   

I'm catching up on Chinese TV dramas at the moment. Check out Douban (豆瓣) for ratings on documentaries, movies, TV, and books. When I miss Chinese TV, I get on Beiijng TV's website and watch live there. I also listen to Beijing Transport News radio via TuneIn when I go to bed! 

Joanna: Have no shame about indulging in guilty pleasures like Netflix reality TV dating shows, and solo YouTube karaoke sing-alongs is a great way to boost your mood while in isolation. Join different journalist groups on social media to reach a supportive community. Poynter has collected a list of such groups, and don't forget to join the NüVoices Network on Facebook and follow our Twitter account @NuVoices.

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Recommendations:

Megha: Say Nothing, by Patrick Radden Keefe, and Three Women, by Lisa Taddeo.

Chenni: FX/Hulu's portentous new show on the second-wave feminists, Mrs. America, and Peter Hessler's River Town.

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In this episode, NüVoices chair Joanna Chiu interviews NüVoices co-founder Sophie Lu and journalist and author Jessie Tu, who both live in Sydney. All three have experienced the harmful effects of people conflating the actions of the Chinese government with Chinese citizens, and even with the East Asian diaspora as a whole. They discuss how Asians and allies can respond to a spike in harassment and hate crimes while coping with a health crisis at the same time. 

Resources:

• Hate crime documentation for Australian Asians
• Hate crime documentation for American Asians   

Recommended reading:

• Stabbing of Asian-American 2-year-old and her family was a virus-fueled hate crime: feds 
• ‘I am not a virus.’ How this artist is illustrating coronavirus-fueled racism 
• Exclusive: COVID19 racism banners sparking outrage among multicultural leaders 
• Asian American feminist antibodies: care in the time of coronavirus 
• Chinese-Americans, facing abuse, unite to aid hospitals in coronavirus battle

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Recommendations:

Cindy: The book In Manchuria: A Village Called Wasteland and the Transformation of Rural China, by Michael Meyer. 

Di: Endlings, a play by Celine Song.

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Recommendations: 

Cindy: Four Springs, a documentary by Lu Qingyi, and An Elephant Sitting Still, by the late filmmaker Hu Bo.

Rui: The movie Knives Out, directed by Rian Johnson.

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In this episode, Emily provides detail on individual and digital gift-giving in China (as opposed to major contributions from large corporations or wealthy donors), the role women play in shaping the future of non-governmental and philanthropic work in China, and how the sector has changed since China’s new law governing foreign non-governmental organizations took effect in 2016. 

For self-care, Emily recommends spending more time outside and taking some time to slow down. Chenni recommends yoga, baths, and meditation. Cindy recommends sending postcards and letters to friends. 

Recommendations:

Emily: The Education of an Idealist: A Memoir, by Samantha Power. 

Chenni: The movie Little Women, directed by Greta Gerwig.

Cindy: Episode 690 of the podcast This American Life: “How Do I Say This?”.

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Lau is also the manager of the NüVoices London chapter and the editor-in-chief of the digital magazine NüStories, which aims to amplify minority voices. Previously, she was a Hong Kong and China reporter with the South China Morning Post. She divides her time between London and Hong Kong.

Recommendations

For self-care, Lau recommends reaching out to support networks regardless of their political expertise, and to learn more about the ongoing situation in Hong Kong, she recommends Lausan. Joanna recommends the Hong Kong Free Press and this list of journalists who cover the protests in Hong Kong, which was put together by Laurel Chor. 

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For self-care, Keisha recommends being kind to yourself, and not allowing toxic thoughts of others to affect your own mentality. Cindy recommends therapeutic writing for yourself and outside the pressures of deadlines. 

Recommended reading:

An interview with Hu Xiangqian; Samuel Fosso: Emperor of Africa; Bridging the gap: Blackness and Sino-African relations; Murals of North Nashville Now; The North Nashville Heritage Project; and Navigating the Pacific: 20th century Afro-Asian relations.

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For self-care, Chenni recommends yoga, and an awareness of the changing of the seasons as fall begins. Cindy recommends not shying away from traditional and non-traditional forms of therapy (writing, for example) and being open to talking about your feelings. Xin recommends taking ballet classes.

Find Xin on Twitter and Tumblr, and take a look at her article on Asian futurism. 

Recommendations: 

Cindy: This Is Football, available on Amazon Prime Video. Also: An interview with Hu Xiangqian and Samuel Fosso: Emperor of Africa.

Xin: Les Bleus: Une Autre Histoire de France, a Netflix documentary on the history of the French national soccer team.

Chenni: The documentary Diego Maradona, available on HBO.

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For self-care, Rachel recommends committing to something small but actionable. In her case, she tries to meditate for 10 minutes every day. Alice recommends learning Esperanto for language geeks as well as yoga and meditation. 

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