There's a particular kind of leader dominating the world right now — fast, certain, dominant, always with an answer. This podcast asks: what if that's exactly the wrong response to the moment we're in?

In this episode, James and Carolyn dig into James's essay No More Heroes — an exploration of how heroic, hyper-masculine leadership has become the default setting for power, and why that matters for all of us. Drawing on Raewyn Connell's work on hegemonic masculinity, Arlie Hochschild's concept of the "second shift," and Anthea Lawson's idea of the "entangled activist," they trace how a particular kind of dominance reproduces itself — in politics, in organisations, and in the people trying hardest to resist it. The conversation takes in communal narcissism, double binds, and Elizabeth Grosz's notion of "the nick of time" — the moment when real change actually becomes possible.

This isn't a conversation with conclusions. It's an invitation into the kind of dialogue that's harder to find than it should be: honest, self-implicating, and genuinely curious. James reflects on his own research into masculinities, the paradox of "mansplaining feminism," and what it looks like when a leadership team learns to sit with discomfort rather than whack-a-mole their way through it. The question they keep returning to isn't what's the answer? — it's what does it feel like to stay in the mess, together?

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In this episode, Sophie Tidman and Sarah Fraser explore Discernment in the Age of AI. The conversation builds on our December AI for Changemakers webinar, where a lively mix of enthusiasts and sceptics came together just before Christmas to grapple with what AI is really changing in organisations. Sophie and Sarah reflect on AI as a mirror for culture and power, the growing importance of leadership judgment, and why the real challenge now is not speed or adoption but choice. They explore what disciplined experimentation looks like in practice, the vulnerability leaders need to model as they learn in public, and how organisations can create just enough structure to explore AI without rushing to premature certainty. This is a conversation about leading well when the tools are powerful, the future is unclear, and discernment has become perhaps the critical organisational capability.

If this sparks your interest, please get in touch to hear more about our AI for Changemakers offerings and our research agenda for 2026.  

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This episode follows Mayvin’s November alumni event “Measuring in the Messiness”. A conversation that set out to talk about evaluation and somehow ended up being… surprisingly enjoyable.

Sophie Tidman and Carolyn pick up where the event left off, exploring why evaluation so often feels heavy, awkward or quietly avoided. And what changes when you stop treating it as a final judgement and start using it as a way of noticing what’s really going on as work unfolds.

They talk about how what gets measured quietly shapes behaviour and why the most important shifts are often the hardest to name.  And how developing better language and sharper patterns of noticing helps people make sense of those shifts, rather than losing them because they don’t fit existing measures.

Along the way, they draw on Sharon Varney’s work on leadership in complexity and the limits of looking only in the rear-view mirror. Erin Manning’s idea of the minor gesture, the subtle movements where change actually starts. And Nora Bateson’s notion of warm data, the relational, context-rich information that helps organisations make sense of themselves without pretending things are tidy.

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AI is moving fast. But the real challenge is not technical. It is human.

In this episode of the Mayvin Podcast, Sophie Tidman is joined by Hugo Pickford-Wardle to explore where AI is leading us, and what it asks of us as humans at work. Together they unpack why AI can feel both unsettling and deeply empowering, how it acts as a trickster technology that exposes our assumptions about value, productivity and intelligence, and why integrating AI is less about figuring out tools and more about choosing who we are becoming.

This is a reflective, practical conversation for leaders, change-makers and anyone trying to stay human while facing into the future of work.

To explore more of Hugo's work, take a look at:

📬 The Free Newsletter: AI Optimist– Your weekly dose of practical AI optimism
🎓 AI Night School: AI Courses for you to become AI Fluent

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Join us as we dive into the evolving world of organisational development (OD) in the age of AI. In this episode, our hosts - Sarah Fraser, Tim Haynes and Markus Edgar Hormeß - reflect on a recent hands-on workshop where OD practitioners experimented with teaming alongside AI.

We unpack the challenges and opportunities of integrating AI into the workplace, from building trust and navigating power dynamics to fostering intentional experimentation and learning. Discover how creating “playgrounds” for safe experimentation can break down barriers, encourage human connection, and unlock new ways of working.

Whether you’re an OD professional, a leader, or simply curious about the intersection of people and technology, this episode offers practical insights and thought-provoking reflections on the future of teaming with AI.

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So much of our technology promises us freedom from friction. One click, instant results, fewer awkward conversations with strangers. But what if friction—the messy, human kind—isn’t the problem to be solved, but the very thing that makes life worth living?

In this episode, Sophie Tidman talks with Rob Chapman, co-founder of Neya, a young AI company with a countercultural aim: not to make us faster or leaner, but to help us belong. Together they explore what happens when we resist the cult of efficiency and instead design tools that deepen trust and weave people back into each other’s lives.

It’s a conversation about community, leadership, and the strange paradox that in trying to make everything smoother, we risk sanding away the very rough edges that give our connections—and our organizations—their meaning.

If you'd like a reading list(!) here are the books we refer to in the podcast:

1. The Death and Life of Great American Cities by Jane Jacobs
2. The Age of Heretics: Heroes, Outlaws, and the Forerunners of Corporate Change by Art Kleiner
3. Uncharted: How to Map the Future by Margaret Heffernan
4. Machines of Loving Grace by Dario Amodei

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In this special episode of the Mayvin Research Hub podcast, young voices share their imaginative ideas about the future of work, think glass-filled homes, exciting tech, and careers that are both fun and meaningful. With a focus on happiness, creativity, and informal workplaces, they offer a playful yet thoughtful glimpse into what work could look like in years to come.

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In today’s episode, we have a very special treat as we are joined by Paul Kaushal, Learning and Development Manager at Hymans Robertson. Parul joined our Principal Consultant Ash Thomas to talk about their collaborative partnership,  helping leaders at all levels in the firm figure out their own ways to work well in complexity.

They discuss taking  leaps of faith in Learning and Development and how taking a mindset of experimentation can support greater ownership of personal learning and growth, and helps turn collective insight into real-world change through action learning. Enjoy! 

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Today’s episode is a recording of our recent mission-led government virtual event.

Over the past six months we’ve been exploring with clients across the Civil Service what it takes to make mission-led government work, working with over 170 people. And so in today’s recording we share what we’re hearing and our insights, as well as hearing from you guys in the Mayvin community too.

This session will provide valuable space to make sense of the mission-led approach in your context, and develop some fresh perspective and practical insights.   

Hope you enjoy listening and if you would like to talk to us further re mission-led please do get in touch. 

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Leadership and the new chaos. It's not just you. Leaders everywhere are overwhelmed, and not because they're doing something wrong. The world has changed. Chaos isn't the exception anymore. It's the norm. In this episode, we explore how to lead when the map keeps redrawing itself under your feet. Carolyn Norgate and Carolyn Parker revisit and expand on their earlier podcast about leadership in today's increasingly unpredictable world. Six months ago, they saw a glimmer of optimism. Today, the sentiment is more complex. The leaders are working harder, facing more demands and feeling less impact. They delve into what it means to lead in an era where answers have a short shelf life, where leadership must be adaptive, relational and reflective, they discuss the limitations of traditional leadership models and share insights that challenge the myth of the heroic leader and how embracing vulnerability, creative Inquiry and collective sense making can pave the way to a more human, connected approach to navigating the chaos. 

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Sarah Fraser and Sophie Tidman discuss the varied responses to AI in organisations, noting a divide between those embracing it and those resistant. They highlight the importance of using AI as a stimulus for thinking rather than a replacement for human judgement. 

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Our Tony Nicholls has decided to stop working from the end of March 2025, he still finds it hard to use the R word, so we decided to make the most of him these last few weeks that we have him, and try to bottle his wisdom and experience, slash milk him for content before he goes. We're releasing these short 10 minute episodes for the next eight weeks, which will take us up to his last week with us. Each episode will focus on a different topic, a different element of his time at Mayvin or his career at large. 

In today's final episode of conversations with Tony, Tony is joined by James Traeger. James has recently moved into a new role as non Executive Chair of Mayvin, as a co founder and director since 2010, James has been instrumental in shaping Mayvin identity practice and growth. In this candid conversation, he shares insights into his new role and what it entails. James and Tony also reflect openly on their career transitions, one having a shift in gears and the other coming to a full stop. It's a daunting process, but they both recognise a new found release of energy. 

Please do feel free to get in touch with us or Tony directly, if you'd like to pass on any well wishes for his R word. 

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Our Tony Nicholls has decided to stop working from the end of March 2025, he still finds it hard to use the R word, so we decided to make the most of him these last few weeks that we have him, and try to bottle his wisdom and experience, slash milk him for content before he goes. We're releasing these short 10 minute episodes for the next eight weeks, which will take us up to his last week with us. Each episode will focus on a different topic, a different element of his time at Mayvin or his career at large. 

In today's episode, Our Tony is joined by Our Sophie, Sophie Tidman. Sophie wanted to ask Tony about the pivotal moments in his OD career. She asks, What took you into OD? What has shifted your perspective through the years, what has challenged you and because we love a good blunder here at Mayvin, any pivotal blunders.

Please do feel free to get in touch with us or Tony directly, if you'd like to pass on any well wishes for his R word. 

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'Our' Tony Nicholls has decided to stop working from the end of March 2025 he still finds it hard to use the R word, so we decided to make the most of him these last few weeks that we have him and try to bottle his wisdom and experience, slash milk him for content before he goes. We will be releasing one of these short 10 minute episodes every week for the next eight weeks, which will take us up to his last week with us. Each episode will focus on a different topic, a different element of his time at Mayvin or his career at large.

In today's episode, Tony is joined by Carolyn Norgate as they look back at Tony's time with Mayvin and in particular, our accredited core practice programme, as that's how they first met. They talk about the impact the program has had on Tony's individual practice and approach with clients and Mayvin practice more generally, including leading to our latest offering of Kickstarter programs. 

Please do feel free to get in touch with us or Tony directly, if you'd like to pass on any well wishes for his R word. 

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'Our' Tony Nicholls has decided to stop working from the end of March 2025 he still finds it hard to use the R word, so we decided to make the most of him these last few weeks that we have him and try to bottle his wisdom and experience, slash milk him for content before he goes. We will be releasing one of these short 10 minute episodes every week for the next eight weeks, which will take us up to his last week with us. Each episode will focus on a different topic, a different element of his time at Mayvin or his career at large.

In today's episode, Tony is joined by Claire Newell, Marketing Manager and Abi Jackson, Senior Client Coordinator, to speak about management, a hot topic chosen because Tony is currently line manager to both! 

Please do feel free to get in touch with us or Tony directly, if you'd like to pass on any well wishes for his R word. 

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'Our' Tony Nicholls has decided to stop working from the end of March 2025 he still finds it hard to use the R word, so we decided to make the most of him these last few weeks that we have him and try to bottle his wisdom and experience, slash milk him for content before he goes. We will be releasing one of these short 10 minute episodes every week for the next eight weeks, which will take us up to his last week with us. Each episode will focus on a different topic, a different element of his time at Mayvin or his career at large.

In today's episode, Tony is joined by our principal consultant, Carolyn Parker and Carolyn wanted to quiz Tony on his blunders and blinders. So blunders being things that have gone wrong over the years, and blinders being things that have gone exceptionally well. 

Please do feel free to get in touch with us or Tony directly, if you'd like to pass on any well wishes for his R word. 

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Sophie Tidman and Anna Iles explore the potential of futures thinking in a BANI world. 

Anna is a futurist life coach and facilitator supporting empowered mindsets and resilient strategies in challenging contexts. She's worked for over 10 years with sustainability and systems change consultancies, Forum for the Future and business for social responsibility, and authored two books on innovative culture and strategy, most recently, the innovation friendly organization.

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'Our' Tony Nicholls has decided to stop working from the end of March 2025 he still finds it hard to use the R word, so we decided to make the most of him these last few weeks that we have him and try to bottle his wisdom and experience, slash milk him for content before he goes. We will be releasing one of these short 10 minute episodes every week for the next eight weeks, which will take us up to his last week with us. Each episode will focus on a different topic, a different element of his time at Mayvin or his career at large.

In today's episode, Tony is joined by our principal consultant, Ash Thomas. Ash asked our Tony, how do you talk about what OD is, and why do you think OD is needed in the world at the moment, and what do you think you've brought to the world of OD? 

Please do feel free to get in touch with us or Tony directly, if you'd like to pass on any well wishes for his R word. 

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This episode is part of a special new mini-series called Conversations with Tony. 

'Our' lovely Tony Nicholls has decided to ‘stop working’ from the end of March 2025. (He still finds it hard to use the ‘r’ word...). So we decided to make the most of him for these last few weeks that we have him . and try to bottle his wisdom and experience / milk him for content before he goes. We will be releasing one of these short 10min episodes every week for the next 8 weeks – which will take us up to his last week. Each episode will focus on a different topic – a different element of his time at Mayvin and/or his career at large. 

In this first episode our CEO - Martin Saville asks Tony about his change in career from a background in sales and the corporate world and then transitioning into the world of OD. How was that transition and what did he hold onto as he moved from one world to the next! 

Please do feel free to get in touch with us or Tony directly if you would like to pass on any well wishes for his 'r' word.

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In today’s episode you can listen back to highlights from our mission-led government event, hosted by Sophie Tidman and Carolyn Norgate. Who offered up our thoughts on the theory vs reality of a mission-led government, with some frameworks, techniques and methodology for how to begin implementing this new approach into the living system of the civil service and beyond.

We were joined by lots of lovely members of our community for some rich discussions and sense-making around what we are noticing about the new government’s mission-led approach, what’s new, what’s different and the potential challenges are to working in this way. We’re hearing that there is real energy and appetite for change, but people don’t know how or where to start. How do we harness that energy instead of dousing it with the ‘cold bucket of water’ that can be the pressures of delivering on the day job too.

You will hear Sophie and Carolyn referring to some slides, if you would like a copy of the slides used at the event please just drop us a line and we’d be happy to send you a copy. 

If you work in the civil service, just to let you know we have some open and closed offerings on the government campus should you wish to delve deeper into this with us. 

If you would like to talk more on mission-led with us, or anything else, please don't hesitate to get in touch, we're always happy to have an informal chat. 

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In this episode we are thrilled to be joined by Kerry Smith - Chief People Officer and Julie Jones - Director of Talent and Organisational Development at the British Heart Foundation, who talk to Mayvin Director Sarah Fraser about the BHF's 'Leading Our Future' leadership development programme. Mayvin is very proud to have worked with BHF in the innovative design and delivery of this award nominated programme (the awards nights are coming up soon - please keep your fingers crossed!)

The programme included 120 senior leaders across the organisation and took place over approximately a year, including whole cohort community days, small peer group learning sets, collective inquiry events and 'masterclasses' on capability building.  

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Sarah Fraser and Ed Shrager discuss the integration of AI into organisational practices. Ed highlights AI's potential in streamlining data crunching and reducing human bias, emphasizing its role in enhancing human collaboration rather than replacing it. They explore AI's use in job description creation, leveraging generative AI with retrieval augmentation (RAG) to improve consistency and efficiency. Ed stresses the importance of training AI to reflect organisational values and the need for human oversight to ensure AI's outputs align with strategic goals. They also discuss AI's role in cultural analysis and the iterative process of refining AI-generated insights.

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In today's episode, we have all the Carolyns, Carolyn Norgate and Carolyn Parker got together after our event leadership in a new era to discuss what came up and the insights we gleaned from it. We hosted the event just three weeks after the election, as we were already noticing a change in the ask from our clients with the new Labour government, our guests talked about feeling purposeful and hopeful and excited to see a shift happening. 

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In today’s episode our very own Operations Team talk about being a self-managed team.

Our operations team cover a wide range of responsibilities (such as accounting, compliance, HR, programme accreditation and client management). They are the rhythm and base of Mayvin, which helps us to do our best work with clients.

As Mayvin has grown, our operations team has grown too, and until last summer it grew with a traditional hierarchical structure. Last summer, we found ourselves with senior roles vacant, and so we put it to the team – would you like a new manager? Or would you like to experiment with self-management? 

They choose to become a self-managed team. A year later, 3 out of our 8 strong team, came together to discuss:

• Why they made the decision to become a self-managed team
• What the transition involved
• What foundations were already in place that helped
• What challenges there have been
• How they have recruited into the team
• And what the impact has been, which includes the team feeling more confident, that their voice is louder, that they have autonomy for change and that they find themselves stepping up and horizon scanning to protect this special way of working.

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Carolyn Norgate and James Traeger discussed the challenges of leading in a world with increasing ambiguity, particularly in the post-pandemic workplace. They emphasised the importance of trust, culture, and leadership in creating a productive and engaged workforce, and highlighted the need for organisations to prioritise creating conditions that foster trust, creativity, and safety. They also shared their experiences designing and delivering a leadership development program for a large non-profit organisation, and emphasised the importance of continuous learning and development for leaders in today's rapidly changing organisational landscape.

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In this episode Our Principal Consultants Tony Nicholls and Carolyn Norgate talk all things programmes – when is a programme not a programme? 

A client came to us recently saying ‘we don’t have time or budget for a traditional programme and we have a large number of colleagues to reach. Could Mayvin create something with impact using just two short sessions?' The answer was yes!
 Tony and Carolyn explain how. Talking through the key elements of our programmes that are consistent from these small bitesize workshops right up to our full length accredited traditional programmes and our Masters. 

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In this podcast episode, Carolyn Parker discusses her journey into OD and her excitement about joining the Mayvin team. She shares her background in psychology and HR, emphasizing the importance of pausing, reflecting, and fostering human connections in organisations. Carolyn highlights OD's focus on improving performance and relationships, as well as the personal and professional growth it offers.

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Today we're joined by Ash Thomas, previously with the British Heart Foundation and now a principal consultant at Mayvin. We're revisiting our mini-series "Why OD" to delve into Ash's unique journey into organisation development.

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Join Sarah Fraser and Steve Hearsum in this podcast episode as they talk about their time teaching a module on organisational change. They discuss the challenges of planning for the future when it's uncertain and touch on power dynamics, the need for sharing power, and the role of human behavior in shaping organisations. They share some surprising moments, like the idea of a group nap, and emphasize the importance of being fully present today to create a better future. 

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In our latest Mayvin Sofa Chats episode, Sophie Tidman and Tony Nicholls, are back for more talk about feedback. This time, they're chatting about how to handle positive feedback and why it can be tricky. 

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In our first Mayvin Sofa Chats episode, our principal consultants, Sophie Tidman and Tony Nicholls, sit down for a chat about feedback. They talk about how to give feedback, what it is, and share their own stories.

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In today’s episode we are very grateful to be joined by two more of our current masters cohort – Jennie and Rachel. We asked if they would be up for sharing their experience of the Mayvin Masters programme with you and they sent us this. In this 20min conversation they talk about how their expectations differed from the reality (in a good way), fitting the programme in around full time work, feeling like they’ve really found their tribe in the other members of the cohort and the impact the programme has had on them both professionally and personally including the Masters being responsible for Jennie securing a new job role, feeling like a corporate hippie, and feeling revitalised, re-energized, hopeful and confident. 

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Tony and Martin recently went to the EODF conference in Lisbon and in this short podcast episode they discuss the conference's energy, innovative ideas, and the harmony between technology and people. They talk about artificial intelligence and how it influences how businesses are organised, blending tech tools with the human aspect in companies.

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In today’s episode, Sebastien de Morelos and Andrew Grenfell, participants from our MA programme, had a chat about their experiences. They talked about how the programme changed their professional lives and made them think differently about work and personal life. They also mentioned the importance of self-awareness, understanding power dynamics, and finding both joy and learning in the programme. 

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As promised Tony & Carolyn have recorded some exclusive content for you, our Alumni network. And as you might have guessed from the title, this particular piece is around Practice Based Learning in times of continuing disruption. If you have any questions or comments please do let us know - mail@mayvin.co.uk.

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In today's episode, James and Carolyn are going to be talking all things Mayvin Masters. As you may have heard, we're thrilled to be announcing the second cohort of our MA in people and organisation development starting March 2024. To celebrate, Carolyn and James got together and recorded this podcast, answering some of your most common questions. So why do it and why is it different? What will it do for me? And what will I get out of it? And a little bit about the structure and what you can do if you want to find out more.

Transcript 

James Traeger  1:33  
Hello, so we're going to be talking about our master's in people and organisation development. So I'll start by asking you, Carolyn, why might people do a programme like this, like the people in organisation development masters that we run?

Carolyn Norgate  1:53  
Well, if I think back to most of my career was as an internal OD consultant, so many years in NHS, few years in the civil service before I came here. And one of the things that I was looking for in the internals I worked with internal change and organisational development design consultants are often looking for is, I suppose to reflect on my practice, a community of practitioners to work with and really think about how change happens. I'm going to say in reality, which makes it sound like they're not in reality. Yeah. But I think there's something quite interesting about how organisations choose to position change, as if it is structured and linear and

James Traeger  2:48  
can be planned easily. Yeah, yeah.

Carolyn Norgate  2:50  
And I think that can be quite difficult to work with so. So that sense of have both having community having the time and space to research and work with the, you know, what do theorists say around this? But more importantly, how do I practice well in this space, so my background was as an internal OD consultant, this programme works for internal OD consultants, but we also have people on the programme, who come from a more change, sort of business change that sort of internal world business architecture, that sort of area. We've, and we designed it for people who might be leaders of change. So I'm thinking again, of our current cohort, there's someone who's a leader of a big operational function in a sort of broadly healthcare environment. external consultants, freelancers, yeah, again, some of them working more in design, more sort of plan change areas, some in the what who would call themselves OD consultants. So it's quite a broad church. But I think change is the the nexus point, and

James Traeger  4:13  
how to really get change done, isn't it if you're really interested in how you get change done, besides what it says in the textbooks, but actually how you create coalition's and manage the process in order to do that. And you're not just stepping back and thinking about it, are you you're actually doing it? Yes, part of the master's programme,

Carolyn Norgate  4:34  
which actually, you might start to answer now, James, because one of the things we're going to talk about was, how is it different? So what's your stance and pretend around that?

James Traeger  4:42  
Well, the programme, I would say, is designed for busy people. So it's designed fo

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In this episode, we're lucky to be joined by client and now friend of Mayvin, Adrian Clarke, head of OD at Virgin Media O2. After Adrian read our Tony's book: "Managing Change in Organizations, he had some questions that he wanted to ask Tony, around:

• Leadership as a tool of management (rather than the other way around)
• Limitations of change and management tools
• The importance of embracing difference and challenge
• And how to find time for these practices

The conversation highlights the key role of relationships in effective management and provides insights into the characteristics of a good manager in the context of change management. Hope you enjoy listening.

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Hello, Suria here! 
To celebrate pride Month, myself and my dear friend and colleague Charlotte have teamed up to record a special episode for the Mayvin Podcast listeners on how to ACTUALLY make workplaces LGBTQ+ friendly. 
As proud members of this amazing community, it's a topic that's naturally close to both of our hearts, so being given the platform to share our thoughts and feelings on how you can make your workplace a more LGBTQ+ friendly environment is both an honour and a nod to Mayvin on how right they get it! 
On behalf of myself and Charlotte, thank you from us both for listening! And if you would feel comfortable in taking the time to share your experiences of what helps you feel understood in the workplace, or if you feel this podcast has enlightened you with some ways in which you can make your workplace more LGBTQ+ friendly - please do reach out and let us know, contact details bellow! 

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As head of Organisation Development at Virgin Media, (now Virgin Media O2), Adrian Clarke commissioned 3 cohorts of our Organisation Development (OD) capability building programme, during the pandemic and just before a big merger between Virgin Media and O2. 

We are very grateful that Adrian took time out to chat to our Principal Consultant Carolyn Norgate in this podcast, to talk about the programme, the role of OD, especially in times of major organisational change and how this programme enhanced practice at multiple levels: individual, team and wider; plus the longer term impact he is seeing.

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Here at Mayvin, we do our best to walk our talk. So we offer our employees the opportunity to participate in a development programme similar to the ones we deliver for our clients. It's great for them to experience an action learning set example. Our wonderful associate Cathy Korn is facilitating our latest programme of seven employees across operations, client management and marketing. 

The aim of the programme is to assist participants with personal practice development and to encourage relationships across the team. Like our client interventions, this programme had no rigid framework, allowing the participants to decide together what they would explore. 

It involved learning with and through peers. It was focused on inquiry, not problem solving. And contains theory bursts, but only where appropriate to the exploration being undertaken. Kept the exploration close to the grain of our real work and uses Action Learning Sets. The programme is at the halfway mark. So the participants came together to reflect on their experience so far to share with you. And here it is, enjoy.

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We recently hosted an online event in which we talked about the future of organisational learning. We feel a big part of that is practice-based learning. And we are applying that in our masters programme. We were joined by current MA participants, Amy Martin and Priti Colbeck. They kindly agreed to talk about their experience of the Mavyvin Masters in People and Organisation Development so far. Our faculty lead, Carolyn Norgate asked them a few questions. And we thought we’d share that conversation here for you to listen to. If you're interested in finding out more about the Masters, please do get in touch with us on masters@mayvin.co.uk. We’re always happy to have a chat. Hope you enjoy.

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This is the 6th and final interview in our Podcast mini series – Why OD? In this episode we share an interview with Carolyn Norgate, Principal Consultant, about how and why she got into Organisation Development.

Carolyn came to OD through a pretty traditional HR route, but OD was "a bit weird" at the time and she had to be a little covert about it to start with.

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In this episode, the 5th in our series of "Why OD?", Marketing Manager Claire Newell interviews Principal Consultant Tony Nicholls, to find out how he got into the field of OD.

Tony started out designing fighter aircraft, but realised he wanted to work with people not planes. Listen in to find out more about his journey.

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In episode 4 of our podcast mini series “Why OD?”, you can listen in to an interview with Sophie Tidman, Principal Consultant about the twists and turns in her journey towards Organisation Development.

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Listen in to this interview with Sarah Fraser, where our Marketing Manager Claire Newell asks her how she came to work in this world that we call OD. This is third episode of our mini-series "Why OD?".

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In the second podcast in our series of "Why OD?", Mayvin Marketing Manager Claire Newell asked Director James Traeger about how and why he came to work in the field of OD. Find out about the twists and turns in James' journey including the crazy paved world of activism, gender and the Met

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Welcome to the first episode of our podcast mini series. Why OD? As organisation development is not something most people have heard of. Claire Newell, Marketing Manager at Mayvin was really interested in hearing how people found themselves working in this world we call OD. 

In asking our Mayvin consultants this question, Claire found their responses really interesting and really varied. In fact, she found it brought a little bit of what makes each of them so unique and special to the fore. 

So these short 10 to 15 minute podcasts are a quick way to get to know the varied paths and personalities of our wonderful consultants. In this first episode you can listen to the interview with Martin Saville founding director of Mayvin. We hope you enjoy it.

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In this episode, Claire Newell, Marketing Manager at Mayvin speaks to Principal Consultant Tony Nicholls. They talk about working "on" relationship and working "in" relationship in the workplace. And the difference between the two and how they can coexist. In their conversation, they touch on leadership versus management, power listening to truth, and the use of self as an instrument. As well as of course, why Mayvin sees relationships as the key to everything we do.

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In today’s episode, founding Mayvin Director James Trager asks our Tony, aka Principal Consultant, Tony Nicholls, about his brand new book, Managing Change in Organizations. The conversation centres around the future of organizations in this podcast. Or is it the future of organising? Or is it the future of organisers? 

They talk about leaders and managers, the difference between the two and the merits of each term, the importance of a good deskside manner. Yep, you heard me right, not bedside manner, deskside manner. And they talk around practical tips and examples for good management. 

Get your copy of Managing Change in Organizations here.

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Claire Newell Marketing Manager talks to Principal Consultant Tony Nicholls about his brand new book, Managing Change in Organizations in this podcast episode. Tony talks us through why he wrote the book. What led him to feeling that it was needed and what you can expect to find in it. Including practical tips and examples of how to manage the people side of change. 

You don't need to be a change manager to be managing change. Change is happening all the time in organisations, whether it's planned or unplanned. This book is written for managers, HR and OD professionals, and gives a practical guide to everything you need to know to support effective business transformation.
 

Get your copy of Managing Change in Organizations here. 

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In this podcast episode Mayvin Director Martin Saville interviews our client Dr Catherine Howe of Adur and Worthing Councils. We have been supporting her in relation to Organisation Design work. 

Catherine is a researcher on change in the 21st century on digital and on civic engagement. She is also the chief executive of Adur and Worthing Councils in the South East of the UK. A post she's held for about a year. And we've been working with her supporting her through a process of organisational transformation. 

Martin and Catherine caught up in the incongruously grand wood panelled Chief Executives office at the town hall in Worthing. Characteristically, Catherine had managed to create an informal and friendly feel with a skillful use of a large plate of chocolate biscuits. And by filling the glass fronted bookcases, not with dusty tomes, but with toys. And other artefacts from the local museum. 

In their half hour conversation, they talk about change, the differing design philosophies of Google and Microsoft and how that impacts on organisations. And yes, really the use as a change tool of snog, marry, avoid. You have to wait to the end for that bit. 

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This podcast is all about using the self as an instrument. As discussed by Mayvin director Martin Saville and Principal Consultant, Carolyn Norgate. Within seconds of talking on the subject, both Martin and Carolyn mentioned Mee-yan Cheung-Judge. 

Her name is so synonymous with this topic. Especially due to her seminal paper in 2001: The self as an instrument a cornerstone for the future of OD. Sadly, only a couple of days after this podcast was recorded Mee-yan passed away. So we would like to dedicate this episode to her. 

She was such an influential person in the world of OD. But also specifically for Mayvin, and our individual consultants that work here too. During Martin and Carolyn's chat, this subject crosses over, tangles, relates to so many other topics. 

Topics like embodiment, appreciative mindset and self fulfilling prophecy. Perceived weirdness, how we work at Mayvin as consultants going into organisations and how we show up. And how it relates to the notion of practice. I.e. how you show up in what you do. 

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The fertile void is one of the most read articles on our website. So we decided to delve deeper into the topic of making space for thinking time between one activity and another.

In this podcast episode, James Trager and Tony Fraser, discussed the fertile void and Gestalt psychology in the context of organisations. Tony reflects that often in organisations, activity and action, or being busy, can be confused with being productive and gaining results. Taking thinking time – time to reflect, to think creatively, to stare out of the window is countercultural. We’re taught from an early age, don’t just sit there, do something. 

But instead, in business the opposite, is sometimes more appropriate. Don’t just do something, sit there. Ceaseless driven activity, without a chance to stop can leave leaders with loss of meaning and purpose, on a bit of a hamster wheel, not getting anywhere and not creatively adapting. 

The fertile void, is a blank open space between what’s been done and what needs to be done now or next. It’s a chance to stand back and see what’s important and have some undirected thinking time. It’s not filled with to do lists and signposts. The value of individuals or organisations recognising the fertile void, is that it can give the opportunity for satisfaction, recognising progress and giving meaning so that people feel better about an activity. 

It’s an opportunity for creativity, something unexpected, something different to make itself known, making space for that. Priorities. There’ll be competing demands and giving yourself time to choose instead of just jumping into the next thing. And finally recognising something is complete. But we don’t want to tell you too much otherwise there will nothing there for James and Tony to say. So we’ll pass it over to them. Hope you enjoy it.

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This podcast episode is guest hosted by Richard Lang, introducing us to the Headless Way. The Headless way was first developed by Douglas Harding many years ago, Richard and Douglas were good friends. And so Douglas has spent the last 50 years sharing the Headless Way with people like ourselves. The Headless Way is method of becoming aware of your most private self, which the suggestion is, is a spacious still and the most spiritual part of you. But Richard invites us not to just take this in trust. So in this podcast episode, He guides us through some awareness exercises to reveal this deep spiritual centre within you. 

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For many, the current approach to designing and implementing leadership and management development programmes isn't quite hitting the mark.

Over the last 10 years Mayvin has delivered programmes across the private, public and third sectors. We have learnt a lot about how to design programmes that work receiving feedback such as:

"the best learning I have attended in my whole career"

"had a huge impact on both my professional and personal life"

"I cannot express how I much I have enjoyed this programme and how much impact is has had on me"

"made a tremendous difference to how I work and how I feel about work"

We also know how to get them accredited at Post Graduate levels, culminating in our recently launched Masters in People and Organisation Development.

So we hosted an online community event where we posed the question: What is the difference that makes the difference in programme design? 

At the event, we shared our experiences in designing and delivering what our participants call life changing and hugely impactful programmes. We also opened it up to group inquiry, asking everyone in the room what their experiences were for the good and for the bad. 

It was a really rich discussion and we have turned it into a Podcast episode for you to listen to.

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Following on from a webinar we ran on check-ins as part of our Artful Inquiry series, Tony Nicholls, Claire Newell and Zoë Morrison had an in depth discussion about check-ins.

Check-ins are part of every day life at Mayvin and our processes around them and the way that we check-in is constantly evolving as the company changes and the conversation reflects that.

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We have recently hosted two Artful sessions on the topic of embodiment. Sophie Tidman hosted one on Radical Rest and Tom Kenward hosted one on Living From Centre More of the Time. They were popular sessions and so we decided to explore the topic further.

In this podcast Martin Saville and Sophie Tidman discuss what brought them to learn about Embodiment, how it relates to their work in Organisation Development, the insights it give us over ourselves and more.

If you are interested in joining a future Artful Event you can find out more about our upcoming events here: Our Artful Calendar 2022.

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There is much discussion these days about ‘speaking truth to power’. But what if power isn’t capable of listening? 

Speaking truth to power is not just a question of the skill of the speaker. It might also be as much about the skill of the person being spoken to. 

James Traeger and Tony Fraser hosted this group inquiry to explore:

- How and why leaders avoid and suppress truthfulness.
- What can you do to encourage greater truthfulness in your organisation?
- How can you support your leaders to be able to hear the truth?
- What can leaders do to acquire the skills needed to encourage truthfulness?

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In January 2022 Sophie Tidman hosted an Artful Enquiry session "Embodiment Part 1: Radical Rest" for Mayvin's community. During the session Sophie took everyone through a Yoga Nidra meditation and we have shared it for you to listen to in this podcast episode.  

Before you listen in, find somewhere comfortable to lie down, get cosy and relax! 

Note: Don't listen while you are driving/ operating machinery or in a situation where it would be dangerous to do so.

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In a couple of months time Mayvin is starting it's new MA in People and Organisation Development Programme, which by now you probably know we are very excited about. It will give participants a post-graduate certificate after year 1 and the opportunity to take it all the way to a full MA after year 3.

Programme Director James Traeger and Year 1 Lead Carolyn Norgate have been hosting online open days and having one to one chats with prospective participants for about six months now. So we decided to lock them in a room and asked them to talk through the most frequently asked questions and topics of conversation that have come up so far.

So if you're interested, but haven't been able to make any of the open days yet, or perhaps aren't feeling brave enough to get in touch with us yet, or maybe a little bit curious as to what we're up to, this podcast is for you.

In the chat James and Carolyn cover: 

1. How and why the programme started.
2. Who the programme is for.
3. The synergies of it being an MA.
4. That it's an inquiry based programme with action research at the heart.
5. The reasons for doing a masters, such as professional recognition and the kudos in gaining a qualification, as well as the usefulness of the skills acquired.
6. The paradigm of this programme is that it's about the process itself.
7. The future of organisations or the future of organising module. And what this might mean in a potentially hopefully, post pandemic world with Gen Z employees.
8. They go on to cover the practicalities of the programme, so that you can enter or exit at different levels, the certificate, the diploma and the dissertation.
9. The fact that the MA is a combination of online and face to face activities, and the flexibility of this programme, and that we're keen to develop it in hand with you.
10. Our face to face venue, Lane End.
11. And finally the finance, pricing, bursaries, payment options and so on.

So hopefully after listening you'll leave with a clearer sense of the environment we're trying to build here. But if you have any further questions or any queries, please do get in touch with us. 

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Towards the end of last year we published an animation with a conversation between Carolyn Norgate and Sophie Tidman about what it is that makes us different and special. We’ve had some lovely feedback about it and so we thought we would share the full conversation in this Podcast Episode.

Aside from saying yes to the mess, in this episode Carolyn and Sophie talk about the excitement of offering a Masters, what it is they love about working at Mayvin, the Mayvin approach to leadership training, the wonderful Mayvin community and more. 

Feedback we received on the animation included:

"I love the animation – it is so clever and so Mayvin. Moving towards the mess is brave and that is my experience of Mayvin – the mess does not phase Mayvin! Thanks as always for your support and wise words every time we connect."

"Really loved the video – “say yes to the mess” – really resonated with me!! "

"Love the ethos. Say yes to the mess and working in the complexity and not fixed state resonated for me."

So let’s listen to their chat!

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In this episode we talk about development programmes and Action Learning.

The Mayvin team has grown substantially over the last couple of years and includes a mix of OD practitioners and those that are not from an OD background but specialise in other areas such as Operations, Marketing and Business Development.

At the beginning of 2021, we decided to run a development programme for the newest members of the Mayvin team, who are all non-OD practitioners.

The aim of the programme was to assist with their personal practice development and to encourage relationships across the team.  

Our Associate Consultant, the wonderful Cathy Korn, facilitated the programme, which mirrored programmes that we create for our clients. Like our client interventions, this programme:

• Had no rigid framework – participants decided together what they would explore
• Involved learning with and through peers
• Was focused on inquiry not problem solving
• Contained theory bursts, but only where appropriate to the exploration being undertaken
• Kept the exploration close to the grain of our real work

At the end of the programme the participants came together to reflect on their experience. They recorded the conversation to share with you and here it is

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Today we’ve released a special one-off episode that our dear friends Rob and Paul at Unfinished Business Radio Harrow featured on their radio show a few weeks back. 

 In this episode, they interviewed our very own James Traeger and explored the need for empathy and love amongst other things. 

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Event 3/3. In this episode, we invite you to listen to our third group inquiry event hosted by Carolyn Norgate and Sarah Fraser. 

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Event 2/3. In this episode, we invite you to listen to our second group inquiry event hosted by Sarah Fraser and Tony Nicholls. 

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Event 1/3. In this episode, we invite you to listen to our first group inquiry event hosted by Carolyn Norgate and Tony Nicholls. 

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Interview 3/3, Jennifer Hutton. In this episode, Director Sarah Fraser chats with Jennifer Hutton; Deputy Director of Organisational Development for the Church of England, who elaborates on the reality of the organisation adapting and letting new working patterns emerge in practice. 

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This is the second in a series of 3 interviews with managers over mindfully moving towards new patterns of working. 

In this episode, Director Sarah Fraser chats with Steve O’Donoghue; Director of Corporate Services at the Trade Remedies Authority, who invites us to explore an emergent approach to developing guiding principles and practices to support staff in developing new working patterns. 

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This is the first in a series of 3 interviews with managers over mindfully moving towards new patterns of working

In this episode, Director Sarah Fraser chats with Liz Maddocks Brown, a Senior programme Manager for the NHS who offers us a fascinating insight into working within the NHS during Covid. 

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