Sorry for the delay, folks—been busy with the washing & the cleaning & that—but here at last is my free-ranging chat with Gary Barwin, roaming from how one ends up in a place to David McFadden to walking like James Joyce to other people's milk. We even get around to some of Gary's early shit. Enjoy. Thanks to Wayne Emde for the artwork, Joe Emde for help with the intro, DJ Max in Tokyo for the wizard music, and you, wherever & whoever & however you are, for listening. 

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Jason welcomes Jaclyn Desforges for a convivial interface about letting the robots do all the stuff, writing about coconut oil, Clarice Lispector, lonely feet, weird babies, and running for mayor of Milton, Ontario. A splendid time is guaranteed for all. Thanks to Wayne Emde for the artwork, Joe Emde for help with the intro, DJ Max in Tokyo for the wizard music, and you, wherever & whoever & however you are, for listening. 

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Jason welcomes Christine Fischer Guy for an amiable gab about ordering beers around the world, Glenn Gould, Danielle Steele, rising to touch the universal, synesthesia, & tuberculosis. Like, love, subscribe, & join the early sh*t chat on Instagram @writersreadtheirearlyshit. Thanks to Wayne Emde for the artwork, Joe Emde for help with the intro, DJ Max in Tokyo for the wizard music, and you, wherever & whoever & however you are, for listening. 

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Jason welcomes his university poetry prof & the squire of Appledore Tom Wayman for a jabberwocky about the ego needed for writing, Leonard Cohen, Robert Bly, Gary Snyder, being hung with horseshoes, the perils of teaching poetry, gathering wood & chopping it, and, in a corner garden: wilder, lower wolves! (That's an REM reference, you know). Like, love, subscribe, & join the early sh*t chat on Instagram @writersreadtheirearlyshit. Thanks to Wayne Emde for the artwork, Joe Emde for help with the intro, DJ Max in Tokyo for the wizard music, and you, wherever & whoever & however you are, for listening. 

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Can you handle THIS bandwidth? Jason welcomes the boundlessly rejuvenate Guy Elston for a confab about waitresses climbing in your mouth, mom & pop landlords, fart walks, addict pigeons, unicycles, books being around something, robot mushrooms and, of course, death. Nice & ugly! What are you waiting for? Like, subscribe, & join the early sh*t chat on Instagram @writersreadtheirearlyshit. Thanks to Wayne Emde for the artwork, Joe Emde for help with the intro, DJ Max in Tokyo for the wizard music, and you, wherever & whoever & however you are, for listening. Happy Year of the Horse, everyone. May it serve you well.

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Jason welcomes globetrotting writer Beka Shane Denter for a gabfest about the charms of Copenhagen and Tokyo, the glory of old Rolling Stones magazines, how books smell like life, doing things for the last time with your kids, and writing it all down. Join the early sh*t chat at https://www.facebook.com/WRTESpodcast & on Instagram @writersreadtheirearlyshit. Thanks to Wayne Emde for the artwork, Joe Emde for help with the intro, DJ Max in Tokyo, and you, wherever & whoever & however you are, for listening. 

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Jason eases you into season five with some rubbish teenage poetry. Just what you wanted! Join the early shit chat at https://www.facebook.com/WRTESpodcast & on Instagram @writersreadtheirearlyshit. Thanks to Wayne Emde for the artwork, Joe Emde for help with the intro, DJ Max in Tokyo for the music, and you, wherever & whoever & however you are, for listening. 

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Jason welcomes writer Ayelet Tsabari for a chinwag about needing the beach, apples revolving in space, the jaw-dropping beauty of Vancouver, surfing between languages, being out in real life, scribbling at the end of the world, & tears for the writer, tears for the reader. Join the early sh*t chat at https://www.facebook.com/WRTESpodcast & on Instagram @writersreadtheirearlyshit. Thanks to Wayne Emde for the artwork, Joe Emde for help with the intro, DJ Max in Tokyo & Red Flag Waltz for the music, and you, wherever & whoever & however you are, for listening. Season Five will kick off in the fall. Cheers.

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Jason welcomes writer & rock star Andrew Whiteman (of Broken Social Scene, Apostle of Hustle, & Bourbon Tabernacle Choir fame) for a wide-ranging interface about giant Greek eyes, secretly grooving to Sade, the glory of Prince, being possessed by the guilty spirit of Dostoevsky's Raskolninov, the split self, spontaneous eruptions, & Frank O'Hara. Join the early sh*t chat at https://www.facebook.com/WRTESpodcast & on Instagram @writersreadtheirearlyshit. Thanks to Wayne Emde for the artwork, Joe Emde for help with the intro, DJ Max in Tokyo for the wizard music, and you, wherever & whoever & however you are, for listening. 

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Jason welcomes writer & traveler Caroline Topperman for a ramble-chat about Poland, Paris, having a lot of houses in your brain, the glory of Judy Blume, high school prose things full of meaning, & how stories connect us. Also: Caroline tells Jason what to do. Join the early sh*t chat at https://www.facebook.com/WRTESpodcast & on Instagram @writersreadtheirearlyshit. Thanks to Wayne Emde for the artwork, Joe Emde for help with the intro, DJ Max in Tokyo for the kick-ass music, Bryn Scott-Grimes for the outro music, and you, wherever & whoever & however you are, for listening. 

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Jason welcomes pilgrim & author Kelly Watt for a ramble about the secret intelligence of chickens, the power of pilgrimage, fighting the enemy Rick, learning story arcs, Alice Munro, and waitress laments. Crank up the disco & tear down all the schedules! Join the early sh*t chat at https://www.facebook.com/WRTESpodcast & on Instagram @writersreadtheirearlyshit. Thanks to Wayne Emde for the artwork, Joe Emde for help with the intro, DJ Max in Tokyo for the wizard music, and you, wherever & whoever & however you are, for listening. 

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Jason welcomes hunky singer-songwriter Lee Shedden for a vast ramble about getting drunk in Calgary, how books are bullshit, Martin Amis, listening to KISS on the Gravitron, the glory of Gillian Welch, & how Jason was the worst influence on wee young Lee. There isn't much old literary shit, but the episode is studded—in every way—with some of Lee's early musical shit, some mid-period shit, & some of his most recent shit, which is totally ace & which you should buy when it comes out. Join the early sh*t chat at https://www.facebook.com/WRTESpodcast & on Instagram @writersreadtheirearlyshit. Thanks to Wayne Emde for the artwork, Joe Emde for help with the intro, DJ Max in Tokyo for the intro music, and you, wherever & whoever & however you are, for listening. 

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Jason welcomes himself for a reading of an Okanagan University College-era essay, circa 1994, on Lawrence Sterne's 'Tristram Shandy.' Should he have been allowed to pass the course?  Should he have been allowed to graduate? Choose your own adventure! He now knows how to pronounce 'historiographer,' so there's that. Thanks, as always, to Wayne Emde for the artwork, Joe Emde for help with the intro, & DJ Max in Tokyo for the cosmic beats. Join the early sh*t chat at https://www.facebook.com/WRTESpodcast, on Instagram @writersreadtheirearlyshit, & on Bluesky at wrtes@bsky.social. Most of all: thank you, wherever & whoever & however you are, for listening.

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All differences are sorted & congratulations exchanged as Jason is joined by author & rocker & colleague Iain Maloney for an interface about Iain's Scottish-themed KISS character, the geeks & the posh, selling out, sticking by your decisions, having no stories to tell, and dying in Japan. Merry Christmas, everyone! Join the early sh*t chat at https://www.facebook.com/WRTESpodcast & on Instagram @writersreadtheirearlyshit. Thanks to Wayne Emde for the artwork, Joe Emde for help with the intro, and you, wherever & whoever & however you are, for listening. 

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Little Brain or Great Brain? Choose your own adventure! Jason welcomes writer & host of The History of Literature podcast Jacke Wilson for a jaw about getting addicted to travel, the glory of John Fitzgerald's Great Brain series, punching up & punching down, not recommending books, Jacke's early days as a podcaster, some important initial influences, and what's it been like to go back & revisit some of his earliest podcasting work. The History of Literature is a fab show & highly recommended. Thanks, as always, to Wayne Emde for the artwork, Joe Emde for help with the intro, & DJ Max in Tokyo for the slinky beats. Join the early sh*t chat at https://www.facebook.com/WRTESpodcast, on Instagram @writersreadtheirearlyshit, & on Bluesky at wrtes@bsky.social. Most of all: thank you, wherever & whoever & however you are, for listening. 

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Welcome to WRTES Season 4, in all the alleys & under all the streetlamps, & join Jason and author Susan Wadds for a salubrious & contagious confab about sacred images, why we read, Yugoslavian dwarves, the different ways of telling the same story, & drinking baijiu with Leonard Cohen in Berlin. As an added attraction, Jason, in the spirit of fairness, shares some very shit of his own. A splendid, cringe-inducing time is guaranteed for all. Join the early sh*t chat at https://www.facebook.com/WRTESpodcast & on Instagram @writersreadtheirearlyshit. Thanks to Wayne Emde for the artwork, Joe Emde for help with the intro, and you, wherever & whoever & however you are, for listening. 

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Jason welcomes back DJ Max in Tokyo for the spectacular Season Three finale: negative influences, funky but not too funky drumbeats, Gifu vs Tokyo, Max's lurid romantic past, and what might be the very hardest kind of early shit to write. Also, as a special treat for WRTES's loyal listeners, Max unearths one of his early songs: the philosophical 'Everything Is Bullshit.' Unmissable! Join the early sh*t chat at https://www.facebook.com/WRTESpodcast & on Instagram @writersreadtheirearlyshit. Thanks to Wayne Emde for the artwork, Joe Emde for help with the intro, and you, wherever & whoever & however you are, for listening. 

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The tables are comprehensively turned as Jason reads some of his early, Lawrence Durrell-infused early prose to Tom. Will Tom denounce it for the pretentious bunk it is, or will he tenderly offer up his own spine to be blessed? Tune in to find out! Also: a special appearance from Maho. Big wizard beats by the incomparable DJ Max in Tokyo. Join the early sh*t chat at https://www.facebook.com/WRTESpodcast & on Instagram @writersreadtheirearlyshit. Thanks to Wayne Emde for the artwork, Joe Emde for help with the intro, and you, wherever & whoever & however you are, for listening. 

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Jason welcomes writer & Kill Scenes front-woman Meghan Lamb for a gabfest about love smacks & hate smacks, posthumous dead girls, being stuck inside cows, suggestions of obsession, cheating meat monkeys, bloody mermaids, corpse rats scurrying through the gore, writing to learn about the world, & the macabre shock of it all. Jason also shares some truly shit early shit. Only two wizard beats from DJ Max in Tokyo: this episode features music by Meghan's band Kill Scenes, from their album Masque. Thanks to Wayne Emde for the artwork & Joe Emde for help with the intro. Join the early sh*t chat at https://www.facebook.com/WRTESpodcast, on Instagram @writersreadtheirearlyshit, & on Bluesky at wrtes@bsky.social. Most of all: thank you, wherever & whoever & however you are, for listening. 

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Something's burning, baby! Jason (who's been in trouble ever since he set his suitcase down) welcomes author Matthew Ingate (who's no pig without a wig) for a natter about Dylan's best 21st century albums, secretive gloating, stretching & moving time, Madame Godzilla, what's missing in 'The Godfather,' & a small diner in Santa Fe where trouble lives. Big wizard beats, as always, by the insatiable DJ Max in Tokyo. Thanks to Wayne Emde, Joe Emde, & thank you, wherever & whoever & however you are, for listening. 

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Jason welcomes writer Patrick Grace for a chinwag about his debut collection 'Deviant,' the pitfalls of confessional poetry, listening to your house, anxiety dreams, the local high school's drugged-up teens, how hard it is to talk about what scares us, & backseat icicles of drool. Big wizard beats, as always, by DJ Max in Tokyo. Join the early sh*t chat at https://www.facebook.com/WRTESpodcast & on Instagram @writersreadtheirearlyshit. Thanks to Wayne Emde for the artwork, Joe Emde for help with the intro, and you, wherever & whoever & however you are, for listening. 

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Jason welcomes writer Hannah Calder for an interface about chickens giving you the finger, how great Charles Dickens is, exploding kneecaps, riding horses naked down the beach, crazy parades, swollen breasts, writing the perfect book, the power & influence of early 90s music videos, and kissing viking lovers and/or dictators. It's a big one, & features the first early shit to actually be about Jason. Big wizard beats, as always, by DJ Max in Tokyo. Thanks to Wayne Emde for the artwork & Joe Emde for help with the intro. Join the early sh*t chat at https://www.facebook.com/WRTESpodcast, on Instagram @writersreadtheirearlyshit, & on Bluesky at wrtes@bsky.social. Most of all: thank you, wherever & whoever & however you are, for listening. 

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Jason welcomes novelist Wayne Ng for a rattle about being named Wayne or Jason, starting late, whether or not scribbling is writing, the realities of self-promotion, the ballsiness of writers, ass-kicking kung-fu Asian stereotypes, and the real reason why writers are cool. Big wizard beats, as always, by DJ Max in Tokyo. Thanks to Wayne Emde for the artwork & Joe Emde for help with the intro. Join the early sh*t chat at https://www.facebook.com/WRTESpodcast, on Instagram @writersreadtheirearlyshit, & on Bluesky at wrtes@bsky.social. Most of all: thank you, wherever & whoever & however you are, for listening. 

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Jason welcomes beautifully laconic poet Tonya Lailey for an interface about wine agencies, comfort books, thin places, what's fab about Nova Scotia, Calgary's supportive writing scene, dot matrix printers, industrial agriculture, allowing the mistake, & how the trick is fun. Look for her debut collection, 'FARM: Lot 23,' out soon. Big whoop beats, as always, by DJ Max in Tokyo. Thanks to Wayne Emde for the artwork & Joe Emde for help with the intro. Join the early sh*t chat at https://www.facebook.com/WRTESpodcast, on Instagram @writersreadtheirearlyshit, & on Bluesky at wrtes@bsky.social. Most of all: thank you, wherever & whoever & however you are, for listening. 

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CALM DOWN. Jason welcomes podcaster and author of '60 Songs That Explain the '90s' Rob Harvilla for a confabulation about furious moping, tongue exercises, the glory of New Kids on the Block's 'Games,' wack slacks and lame stains, not leaving your pizza burning, rad steez, clutching at borrowed pearls, and the best KISS song to sing at karaoke. Big whoop beats, as always, by DJ Max in Tokyo. Thanks to Wayne Emde for the artwork & Joe Emde for help with the intro. Join the early sh*t chat at https://www.facebook.com/WRTESpodcast, on Instagram @writersreadtheirearlyshit, & on Bluesky at wrtes@bsky.social. Most of all: thank you, wherever & whoever & however you are, for listening. 

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Jason welcomes Jason for a jaw about Thousand Island pirates, comfort reading, defacing books, fireworks for Hitler, getting your ego out of the way of the writing, & a naked onion in the park with Pierre Berton. Music, as always, by DJ Warm Farm Milk Max in Tokyo. Thanks to Wayne Emde for the artwork, Joe Emde for help with the intro, & Sasha Emde for help with the outro. Join the early sh*t chat at https://www.facebook.com/WRTESpodcast, on Instagram @writersreadtheirearlyshit, & on Bluesky at wrtes@bsky.social. Most of all: thank you, wherever & whoever & however you are, for listening. 

Also: check out the cool stuff available from Ex Libris Anonymous (not a sponsor, just a purveyor of wicked rad notebooks): https://www.bookjournals.com/home

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Jason welcomes Vancouver's Poet Laureate for a ramble about Emily of New Moon, writing into fear & anxiety, concrete corpses in the living room, goth trenchcoats, werewolves draped in mourning, having some feelings & a trombone, reading to dogs, & the real answer to the question "How do I get published?" Music, as always, by savage hunk DJ Max in Tokyo. Thanks to Wayne Emde for the artwork & to Joe Emde for help with the intro. Join the early sh*t chat at https://www.facebook.com/WRTESpodcast, on Instagram @writersreadtheirearlyshit, & on Bluesky at wrtes@bsky.social. Thank you, wherever & whoever & however you are, for listening.

Some links to what Fiona's been up to:

City Poems Project background (all four stages) 

Sept 16/23 Free Public Curated Screening of City Poems Project Poetry Videos by post-secondary students at Word Vancouver 2023

Canine Library Event on Sept 9/23 at Trout Lake Park, Vancouver and Fiona's blog about last year's Canine Library event (with links to poems about dogs, videos and more)

Spontaneous Poetry Booth: Fiona's blog about last year's Downtown Eastside spontaneous poetry booth experience for the annual Heart of the Street Festival

And the recent poem Fiona read is from her 2019 collection, Odes & Laments

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Jason welcomes author Steven Lattey for a yackety-yak about Dylan & Ginsberg, reading with patience & gratitude, hitchhiking, convenient access to suffering & struggle, glories never ceasing & glories never coming, & self-help gone bad. There’s a bit of poetry, as well, & you can check out more of Steven's stuff at www.stevenlattey.ca. Music by savage hunk DJ Max in Tokyo. Thanks to Wayne Emde for the artwork & photography & to handsome, teenage Joe Emde for help with the intro. Join the early sh*t chat at https://www.facebook.com/WRTESpodcast, on Instagram @writersreadtheirearlyshit, & on Bluesky at wrtes@bsky.social. Thank you, wherever & whoever & however you are, for listening. 

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Jason welcomes Corinna Chong for a confab about when we stop regretting the people—& the writers—we used to be, plugging gaps with memories, plagiarizing ABBA, the power of end stops, the superpowers writers need, heart worms, licorice holders, & defacing pristine notebooks. Music by savage hunk DJ Max in Tokyo. Thanks to Wayne Emde for the artwork & photography & to handsome, teenage Joe Emde for help with the intro. Join the early sh*t chat at https://www.facebook.com/WRTESpodcast, on Instagram @writersreadtheirearlyshit, & on Bluesky at wrtes@bsky.social. Thank you, wherever & whoever & however you are, for listening. 

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Jason welcomes songwriter & musician Daniel Powter for a chinwag about the mysteries of remote Vernon, British Columbia, skipping class to play piano, how Jason didn't launch Daniel's musical career, smashed violins, Prince's Lovesexy tour, not impressing your mum, not knowing who's the prime minister of Canada, and Nite Magic anti-action. Music by Daniel, with an assist from savage hunk DJ Max in Tokyo. Thanks to Wayne Emde for the artwork & photography & to handsome Joe Emde for help with the intro. Join the early sh*t chat at https://www.facebook.com/WRTESpodcast, on Instagram @writersreadtheirearlyshit, & on Bluesky at wrtes@bsky.social. Thank you, wherever & whoever & however you are, for listening. 

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Jason welcomes Lorna Crozier for a gab & a yak about stone angels, that shivery sense good writing gives you, being corny & earnest, unwrapping your brain, just what it is about cats anyway, Kerouac in Vernon, riding the poem wherever it wants to go, and how, by God, there is light. And then Lorna makes Jason cry. Music by savage hunk DJ Max in Tokyo, artwork by Wayne Emde, & help with the intro from handsome Joe Emde. Join the early sh*t chat at https://www.facebook.com/WRTESpodcast, on Instagram @writersreadtheirearlyshit, & on Bluesky at wrtes@bsky.social. Thank you, wherever & whoever & however you are, for listening. 

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We're not sinking—we're crashing! Jason welcomes the titans of Season One back for a clash of cringe that runs the gamut from brambles & hassles to madness levels to walls dripping tears to using the microwave after 10 pm to the wind blowing you from behind. This is early shit that's WAY too legit to quit.  Dave Antich, Victoria Taylor, Alison Wassermann, & David White serve up the shamans & bodysuits & all you have to do is sit back & enjoy the show, from the unhinged, Cure-influenced, car-centric pop of Mr. White to the fab beats of savage hunk DJ Max in Tokyo (www.youtube.com/channel/UC2U1n0V9JT89-tH2fNubDMg). Many thanks to Wayne Emde for the artwork & Joe Emde for help with the intro. Join the early sh*t chat at https://www.facebook.com/WRTESpodcast & on Instagram @writersreadtheirearlyshit & thank you, wherever & whoever & however you are, for listening. 

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Jason welcomes Japanese media personality Kaho Shibuya for a prismatic chat about reading novels to understand Japan, teachers turning into deer, an unusual use for Minute Maid Morning Banana jelly, being jealous of temples, & how cooking at home befriends you in the realm of your budget. Also discussed: the recent English translation of Kaho's book, 'The Japanese Porn Industry Unmasked: An Insider's Guide.' Music from Kaho herself, as well as from savage hunk DJ Max in Tokyo (www.youtube.com/channel/UC2U1n0V9JT89-tH2fNubDMg). Many thanks to Wayne Emde for the artwork, Joe Emde for help with the intro, & Sasha Emde for help with the outro. Join the early sh*t chat at https://www.facebook.com/WRTESpodcast & on Instagram @writersreadtheirearlyshit. Thank you, wherever & whoever & however you are, for listening. 

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Jason welcomes novelist Nathan Whitock for a waffle about Pulsar & the Six Million Dollar Man, the problem with free jazz, not being attracted to the perverse & underground, candied bile, David Foster Wallace, & Nathan's infamous take down of Oliver Stone's 'JFK.'  Nathan also violates the show's premise & reads something early but definitely not shit. Music by the voluptuous DJ Max in Tokyo (www.youtube.com/channel/UC2U1n0V9JT89-tH2fNubDMg). Many thanks to Wayne Emde for the artwork & Joe Emde for help with the intro. Join the early sh*t chat at https://www.facebook.com/WRTESpodcast & on Instagram @writersreadtheirearlyshit. Thank you, wherever & whoever & however you are, for listening. 

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Jason welcomes writer, musician, and publisher Michael Whone for an interface about the joys of the mundane, still hating Dostoevsky, last books, shoplifting Kerouac, and Jason's upcoming poetry collection, little bit die, published by Michael's Bolero Bird imprint. Special bonuses: music from Michael's new acid jazz album, The Light Is Laced, & some non-early, non-shit poems from Jason. Many thanks to Wayne Emde for the artwork, Joe Emde for help with the intro, & DJ Max for the opening & closing music. Join the early sh*t chat at https://www.facebook.com/WRTESpodcast & on Instagram @writersreadtheirearlyshit. Many thanks, wherever & whoever & however you are, for listening. 

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Jason welcomes memoirist Kelly S. Thompson for a free-ranging ramble about mentoring & being mentored, shitty first drafts, lingering in the ugly, basic training of the mind, misanthropic penguins, cavemen fighting spacemen, bull terriers named Ham, & Kelly's new book, "Still, I Cannot Save You." Music by the angelic DJ Max in Tokyo (www.youtube.com/channel/UC2U1n0V9JT89-tH2fNubDMg). Many thanks to Wayne Emde for the artwork & Joe Emde for help with the intro. Join the early sh*t chat at https://www.facebook.com/WRTESpodcast & on Instagram @writersreadtheirearlyshit. Many thanks, wherever & whoever & however you are, for listening. 

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Jason welcomes US National Beat Poet Laureate Ron Whitehead for a freewheeling ramble about being blessed with mentors, hearing everybody's story, post office death messages, visiting Hunter S. Thompson, shotgunned Xmas trees, & unconventional sex education. Music by the delicious DJ Max in Tokyo (www.youtube.com/channel/UC2U1n0V9JT89-tH2fNubDMg) & Ron & his band. Many thanks to Wayne Emde for the artwork & Joe Emde for help with the intro. Join the early sh*t chat at https://www.facebook.com/WRTESpodcast & on Instagram @writersreadtheirearlyshit. Many thanks, wherever & whoever & however you are, for listening. 

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Writers Read Their Early Shit enjoys its first threesome as Jason welcomes national treasures John Lent and Jude Clarke for a wide-ranging confabulation about pirate adventures, clammy Edmonton bookmobiles, garage stations, gothic 14 point horror stories, escaping gravity's pull, murdering adjectives & adverbs, old age & treachery, & learning about how to become less heavy-handed & obvious. John is also seen by a bird & he knows it. Music by John & the delectable DJ Max in Tokyo. Many thanks to Wayne Emde for the artwork & Joe Emde for help with the intro. Join the early sh*t chat at https://www.facebook.com/WRTESpodcast & on Instagram @writersreadtheirearlyshit. You can also send an email to WritersReadTheirEarlyShit@gmail.com. Many thanks, wherever & whoever & however you are, for listening. 

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Jason welcomes Chinese-Canadian poet, playwright, & essayist Dale Lee Kwong for a gas about lesbian tours of China, insulting punctuation, Tom Wayman, tech-nostalgia, being glad to have a dad, the goddess of reality, & how all of the best people have a Vernon, BC connection, whether they know it or not. Music, as always, by the dangerous DJ Max in Tokyo; check out his beats at http://soundcloud.com/djmaxintokyo. Join the early sh*t chat at https://www.facebook.com/WRTESpodcast & on Instagram @writersreadtheirearlyshit. You can also send an email to WritersReadTheirEarlyShit@gmail.com.

Links & info about Dale's PIE Day talk at the Lutheran Church of the Cross: https://www.churchofthecross.ca/about. Link to Sunday worships for livestream on the morning of, and Youtube for future watching: https://www.churchofthecross.ca/podcasts/media

Also check out 'Sweet and Sour Inspirations with Dale Lee Kwong'—poetry, play excerpts, short fiction, and revelations of Dale's creative process—at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdpRgfLk18o

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Holy doodle! Jason welcomes one of his oldest & longest-suffering pals for a nostalgia-soaked ramble about high school airbands, role-playing games, pretty good nosebleeds, trying to be Leonard Cohen, & being robbed blind by John Cobra. Roger not only bravely shares some of his high school-era poetry, he turns the table & shares some of Jason's as well. Say goodbye to boring lunch hours: for athletes & weaklings alike this episode is a must. Note: the 'Tarquin' that Jason & Roger mention is a reference to 27th Street Theatre's lavish 1988 production of "Dr Felix Tarquin's Travelling Show of Medicine and Wonderments," which was directed by the genius behind WL Seaton Secondary's drama program, Mr Dave 'Brot' Brotsky; the 432 that Roger refers to (& wrote for) was a satirical bi-weekly publication of the University of British Columbia Science Undergraduate Society. Many thanks to Roger for his time & quips, Wayne Emde for the artwork, Joe Emde for help with the intro, & the deluxe DJ Max in Tokyo for the fab music. Join the early sh*t chat at https://www.facebook.com/WRTESpodcast & on Instagram @writersreadtheirearlyshit. You can also send an email to WritersReadTheirEarlyShit@gmail.com. Many thanks, wherever & whoever & however you are, for listening. 

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"Our mistakes make the best stories, and that's why we should not think of them as failures." In the second of their already legendary chats, Jason & Susan discuss Egyptian typewriters & Italian ranch hands, evolutionary obsequies, reading with Gregory Corso in Amsterdam, vodka made from San Francisco fog, when 'vagina' is the right word, & the awful letting go. There's some poetry, too. Many thanks to Susan for her honesty & generosity, Wayne Emde for the artwork, Joe Emde for help with the intro, & the white-hot DJ Max in Tokyo for the music. Join the early sh*t chat at https://www.facebook.com/WRTESpodcast & on Instagram @writersreadtheirearlyshit. You can also send an email to WritersReadTheirEarlyShit@gmail.com. Many thanks, wherever & whoever & however you are, for listening. 

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Jason welcomes legendary Canadian poet Susan Musgrave and the two get to gabbing—about Leonard Cohen, the House of Carnage, ghosts, grief, stones, Sharon Olds, pre-traumatic stress disorder, how to read poetry, and relearning that the table isn't there—until they run out of time, long before they ever get around to any of Susan's early work. "I've got to go pick up a pizza," she said, "and then I'm going to Ireland." Susan will be back in Part 2 with some early writing, but, in the meantime, here's a beautiful chance to listen to her talk, with characteristic candor and intelligence, about how she bears the weight and how she decides which wolf to feed. Music by the mischevious DJ Max in Tokyo. Join the early sh*t chat at https://www.facebook.com/WRTESpodcast & on Instagram @writersreadtheirearlyshit. You can also send an email to WritersReadTheirEarlyShit@gmail.com. Many thanks, wherever & whoever & however you are, for listening. 

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Jason welcomes under-qualified window-washer Dave Olson & his fantastic beard & beautiful hands for a natter about punching or hugging Dostoevsky, see-through loincloths, meeting REM, borrowing mustard from Allen Ginsberg, dodgy Greyhound stations, working out the writing life math, and how cheerleaders are people too. There's ropey Egyptian history, a savage polemic, the details of hippy teacher Mr Boris's new motorized home, a few bits & Brother Bobs of Dave's early poetry & prose, & Jason getting his Tutankhamun timeline wrong by only 3700 years. An unnerving—if not terrifying—time is guaranteed for all. Check out Dave's creative life archive at https://daveostory.com—much to enjoy there. Music by the outrageous DJ Max in Tokyo. Join the early sh*t chat at https://www.facebook.com/WRTESpodcast & on Instagram @writersreadtheirearlyshit. You can also send an email to WritersReadTheirEarlyShit@gmail.com. Many thanks, wherever & whoever & however you are, for listening. 

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Jason welcomes scarily talented singer-songwriter Amanda Tiffin for a nostalgic chinwag about Amanda's musical origin story, Zimbabwean adventures, Edie Brickell phases, discovering the G augmented chord, Footloose in reverse, squeezing early shit out of annoying roommates, & watching the lights go on. Music by Amanda herself—including a gorgeous voice-&-piano Paul Simon cover—with grace notes from the dangerous DJ Max in Tokyo. Join the early sh*t chat at https://www.facebook.com/WRTESpodcast & on Instagram @writersreadtheirearlyshit. You can also send an email to WritersReadTheirEarlyShit@gmail.com. Many thanks, wherever & whoever & however you are, for listening. 

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Jason welcomes KISS ROOM legend Matt Porter for a bombastic, fire & thunder chinwag about Mr. Mutant, learning to do things by making a fool of yourself, escaping from the apes, Duran Duran videos, The Mask saving the president from an assassin's poison-slathered knife, & having hair like melting toothpaste & legs like a piano. It's all action all the time on WRTES, where minds & early sh*t meet. Music, as always, by the enigmatic DJ Max in Tokyo. Check out THE KISS ROOM wherever you get your podcasts & join the early sh*t chat at https://www.facebook.com/WRTESpodcast & on Instagram @writersreadtheirearlyshit. You can also send an email to WritersReadTheirEarlyShit@gmail.com. Many thanks, wherever & whoever & however you are, for listening. 

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Jason welcomes UBC Creative Writing prof & author of the Hillary Gravendyk Prize-winning poetry collection 'The Silk the Moths Ignore' Bronwen Tate for a barely-rescued-from-oblivion confabulation about inefficiency spaces, poetry in the body, red with flesh in it, tender cringe, soggy memories left out in the rain, picking up Squeed on the highway, & Bronwen dropping her strawberry shortcake. Does it get much better? No. It doesn't. Fab new music from the melodious DJ Max in Tokyo. Join the early sh*t chat at https://www.facebook.com/WRTESpodcast & on Instagram @writersreadtheirearlyshit. You can also send a question, comment, or complaint to WritersReadTheirEarlyShit@gmail.com—though be aware that it may appear in a future episode. Meanwhile: many thanks, wherever & whoever & however you are, for listening.

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Welcome to WRTES Season Two (& it’s a big one). Excitingly expanding the format, Jason welcomes master podcaster and philosopher-pirate Rob Kelly for a freewheeling, ninety-miles-an-hour-down-a-dead-end-street chinwag about the correct way to butter dinner rolls (according to Harlan Ellison), naming your kids after Dylan characters, the adventures of Ace Kilroy, Somerset Maugham’s ‘The Razor’s Edge,’ willy-nilly profanity, and the unexpectedly amatory powers of the word ‘temerity.’ Rob also shares some stories about not really understanding how what you write might be read by real people and offers a few peeks behind Pod Dylan’s enigmatic curtain. A splendid (if occasionally vituperative) time is guaranteed for all. Music by the dreamy DJ Max in Tokyo. Join the early sh*t chat at https://www.facebook.com/WRTESpodcast & on Instagram @writersreadtheirearlyshit. You can also send an email to WritersReadTheirEarlyShit@gmail.com. Many thanks, wherever & whoever & however you are, for listening. It's fab to be back.

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Jason welcomes his long-time literary chum Stephen 'Tom' McKenna for a tender ramble about bludgeoning writers they don't like, ritual suicide in porno detail, movies about writers, Hamnet, stroking flanks, birthdays at Pizza Patio, the Dukes of Hazzard, & how (all evidence to the contrary) reading has made them better people. Jason also shares some very early sh*t, including his plagiarized Hardy Boys 'novel' & an incisive 1978 review of Star Wars. Music by the smouldering DJ Max in Tokyo. Join the early sh*t chat at https://www.facebook.com/WRTESpodcast & on Instagram @writersreadtheirearlyshit. You can also send an email to WritersReadTheirEarlyShit@gmail.com. Many thanks, wherever & whoever & however you are, for listening. Back in September with more of the same, only more so.

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Jason welcomes English songwriter & multi-instrumentalist Andrew Tyrone Rodgers for a jaw about accidentally wearing Lincoln Park t-shirts, DKPs (Duran-KISS Pleasures), fixing holes, revisiting childhood poems, cosmic hot pots, too much pop in the park on a Friday, internet cafés, & losing & finding family members. Music by both Andy & the bombastic DJ Max in Tokyo. Join the early sh*t chat at https://www.facebook.com/WRTESpodcast & on Instagram @writersreadtheirearlyshit. You can also send an email to WritersReadTheirEarlyShit@gmail.com. Many thanks, wherever & whoever & however you are, for listening.

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Jason welcomes legendary Pods & Sods co-host, Debbie Gibson enthusiast, & pop/rock/rap fantasist Craig Smith for a river deep, mountain high ramble about keyboards made of dynamite, Beatles-obsessed drug-dealing uncle-cousins, discographies of imaginary bands, the best Milli Vanilli video, the constant disappointment of heartbreak, Duran Duran's 'The Chauffeur,' breaking up with KISS, & how someday goodbye will be farewell. Music by slinky DJ Max in Tokyo; this episode contains the tracks 'Sunny Beat,' 'Relax,' & 'Moonlight,' all of which you can (& should) buy at http://soundcloud.com/djmaxintokyo. Join the early sh*t chat at https://www.facebook.com/WRTESpodcast & on Instagram @writersreadtheirearlyshit. You can also send an email to WritersReadTheirEarlyShit@gmail.com. Many thanks, wherever & whoever & however you are, for listening.

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Jason welcomes Daria Salamon, author of 'The Prairie Bridesmaid' & co-author of 'Don't Try This At Home,' for a jaw about why Winnipeg is cool for artists, the blonde awfulness of 'Sweet Valley High,' being covered in eggs & tears, the glory of handwritten letters, how as long as the writing is honest the rest can be fixed, & being bullied by a chicken named Rocky. Music by the august DJ Max in Tokyo; this episode contains the tracks 'San Fran Hippie Beat,' 'Damia,' & 'Shade,' all of which you can (& should) buy at http://soundcloud.com/djmaxintokyo. Join the early sh*t chat at https://www.facebook.com/WRTESpodcast & on Instagram @writersreadtheirearlyshit. You can also send an email to WritersReadTheirEarlyShit@gmail.com. Many thanks, wherever & whoever & however you are, for listening.

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Jason welcomes the refreshingly swear-y Hollay Ghadery, author of 'Fuse,' for a wide-ranging chinwag about multiple vasectomies, hangovers through the decades, feeling anxious about eternity, being a writer or being dead, getting better all the time, & semantic satiation. Hollay also shares some not-too-bad early sh*t. Music by the death-defying DJ Max in Tokyo; this episode contains the songs 'Love We Have,' 'Those Steps,' & 'Paris,' all of which you can (& should) buy at http://soundcloud.com/djmaxintokyo. Join the early sh*t chat at https://www.facebook.com/WRTESpodcast & on Instagram @writersreadtheirearlyshit. Many thanks, wherever & whoever you are, for listening.

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Jason welcomes musician & poet Bill Hickey for a ramble-yak about sharing an elevator with a pissed-off David Foster Wallace, carpet farming, fighting off ALL the members of KISS, & the sick, lip-smacked goodness of gritty early sh*t.  They also reminisce about the glories of Goontown, Penguin Dust, & that one time  Bill was Jason's roadie. Check out some of Bill's music at https://www.n1m.com/plasticsaint. Episode music by the edifying DJ Max in Tokyo; this episode contains the songs 'Fly On,' 'Never Ever,' & 'East Side Guitar Beat,' all of which you can (& should) buy at http://soundcloud.com/djmaxintokyo. Join the early sh*t chat at https://www.facebook.com/WRTESpodcast & on Instagram @writersreadtheirearlyshit. Many thanks, wherever & whoever you are, for listening.

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Jason welcomes writer & artist Kimberley Orton for a chat about the 20 best Tom Waits songs, what Toronto sounds like, how four to four-thirty is just not long enough for proper sex, the crashing pleasure of hanging up on people, getting bonked by the backspin, & eyes & teeth. Kimberley also shares some exciting excerpts from her teenage journals. Music by the mysterious DJ Max in Tokyo; this episode contains the songs 'Sunday Cook Up,' 'Joyful Beat,' 'Paris,' & 'Autumn Vibe,' all of which you can buy at http://soundcloud.com/djmaxintokyo, if you dig 'em. Join the early sh*t chat at https://www.facebook.com/WRTESpodcast & on Instagram @writersreadtheirearlyshit. Many thanks, wherever & whoever you are, for listening.

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Jason welcomes urban Neapolitan & Scotland's best-kept secret, poet & singer-songwriter Roy Møller, for a gabfest about the Beatles, the best Bob Dylan desert island trilogy, how Eternal Thou bought a car, and Røy's unusual origin story. Will Jason pronounce Leith correctly, or will he prove himself to be a seedy little grapefruit of a man? There's only one way to find out. Music from both Roy and DJ Max in Tokyo. Join the early sh*t chat at https://www.facebook.com/WRTESpodcast & on Instagram @writersreadtheirearlyshit. Many thanks, wherever & whoever you are, for listening.

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Jason welcomes Lea Graham, poet & prof & author of 'Hough & Helix & Where & Here & You, You, You' & 'From the Hotel Vernon',' for a chat about Jack Kerouac's grave, Bob Dylan's library books, Michael Jackson in Borneo, adulterous Nazis, circumcision gods, & Lord Pork. Having slightly misunderstood the podcast's premise, Lea also reads some pretty good shit. Music, as always, by the incandescent DJ Max in Tokyo; this episode features the tracks 'East Side Guitar Beat,' 'Blonde Wave,' Little Beat,' 'John Dream,' & 'Writing & Drinking,' all of which you can buy at http://soundcloud.com/djmaxintokyo, if you dig 'em. Join the early sh*t chat at https://www.facebook.com/WRTESpodcast & on Instagram @writersreadtheirearlyshit. Many thanks, wherever & whoever you are, for listening.

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Jason welcomes teacher, writer, podcaster, & pal Shea Layton for a gabfest about Rocky Mountain oysters, Pimp cologne, the main problem with guys named Chet, & fist fighting in the food court at the mall. Then, in a thrilling first for WRTES, they deliver a dramatic reading of Shea's incomplete (but compellingly gritty) early screenplay, 'Dryer Sheets.' Get comfortable & feast on all the tense & suspenseful action. Music, as always, by the iridescent DJ Max in Tokyo; this episode features the tracks 'Swing Around' & 'Fly On,' both of which you can buy at http://soundcloud.com/djmaxintokyo, if you dig 'em. Join the early sh*t chat at https://www.facebook.com/WRTESpodcast & on Instagram @writersreadtheirearlyshit. Many thanks, wherever & whoever you are, for listening.

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Jason welcomes the scarily-talented Katie Zdybel for a jaw about punctuating your thinking, the perfect literary day, magic trolleys, mermaids, writing letters as writing practice, & the power of JD Salinger's prose. There's also some early sh*t, but not much, because Katie's so good at what she does. Also: thanks to popular demand, listen for another mysterious cameo from Sasha. Katie's book, Equipoise, is out now from Exile Editions & it's fab & you should buy it. Enjoy more Katie at https://www.katiezdybel.com & join the early sh*t chat at https://www.facebook.com/WRTESpodcast and on Instagram @writersreadtheirearlyshit. Music, as always, by the valanced DJ Max in Tokyo; check his stuff out at http://soundcloud.com/djmaxintokyo & buy that, too. Many thanks, wherever & whoever you are, for listening.

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Jason welcomes poet, memoirist, and glutton for joy Carla Funk to a chat about trying on literary costumes, Rock-a-Thons, Patrick Lane drunk in a snowbank in Vanderhoof, writing as an act of hospitality, cannibals, pianos as suicide weapons, and the secret history of Glass Tiger. Carla's latest book is 'Mennonite Valley Girl' & it's fab. Enjoy more Carla at  https://www.carlafunk.com & join the early sh*t chat at https://www.facebook.com/WRTESpodcast and on Instagram @writersreadtheirearlyshit. Music, as always, by the irrepressible  DJ Max in Tokyo; check him out at http://soundcloud.com/djmaxintokyo. Thank you, wherever you are, for listening.

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Didn't like the first one? Well, here's another one! Jason & Curtis, launching another raid on another early sh*t base, revisit their first band—the mighty 5Fs—& subject their cruelest song (& its accompanying video) to rigorous (& abashed) analysis. Digressions include the first rock star in space, living in sin at the Lava Buffet, the Crab Tank Lady, slabs, & the notorious Ass-Face Creature pants. Will they get a well-deserved licking, or will they fall in a stream of gold & be called geniuses? There's only way to find out. Enjoy more Curtis at https://theorangelamphousestudio.com & join the early sh*t chat at https://www.facebook.com/WRTESpodcast and on Instagram @writersreadtheirearlyshit. Music, as always, by the supersonic DJ Max in Tokyo; check him out at http://soundcloud.com/djmaxintokyo. Thank you, wherever you are, for listening.

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Podcast predicament (& it's a big one): what do you do when you conduct an interview so freewheeling, so important, so dangerous, so damned crazy, that it goes for over three hours? Break it up into two separate blasts of hell and hallelujah, that's what. Get ready for brief flashes of brief enjoyment & welcome to Writer's Read Their Early Sh*t's first Double Event, featuring writer, filmmaker, & retired rock star Curtis Emde. In this very written & directed episode, Curtis exposes the unfinished mother of all movie guides, co-written (& illustrated) with WRTES alumni Alison Emde, with digressions concerning vintage typewriting pranks, literary pilgrimages, & why doing your own thing's OK. KISS is also mentioned. Repeatedly. Rated B, for bombastic. Check out Curtis's work at https://theorangelamphousestudio.com & join the early sh*t chat at https://www.facebook.com/WRTESpodcast and on Instagram @writersreadtheirearlyshit. Music, as always, by the redoubtable DJ Max in Tokyo; check him out at http://soundcloud.com/djmaxintokyo. Thank you, wherever you are, for listening.

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Jason welcomes poet & non-KISS fan CM Preston for a freewheeling chinwag about the whys and wherefores of early sh*t, bad writing advice, questioning your sanity, whether art is a mirror or a hammer or something else entirely, the best things about Japan, and quoting Kafka at dinner parties. Check out CM's work at cmpreston.com & join the early sh*t chat at https://www.facebook.com/WRTESpodcast and on Instagram @writersreadtheirearlyshit. Music, as always, by human thermal detonator DJ Max in Tokyo; check him out at http://soundcloud.com/djmaxintokyo. And many thanks, wherever you are, for listening.

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Jason welcomes his eleven-year-old son, Joe, for a confabulation about Joe's early work and some of Jason's earliest ideas for super heroes and super villains. Skunk guns, what fermented soybeans really taste like, and who would win in a fight between Jeff Kool and Captain Dagger...this unmissable episode has it all. So don't, er, miss it. Original music by the very wizard DJ Max in Tokyo; check out his stuff here: http://soundcloud.com/djmaxintokyo. Join the early sh*t chat at https://www.facebook.com/WRTESpodcast and on Instagram @writersreadtheirearlyshit. And thank you, wherever & whoever you are, for listening.

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It's a trap! Jason welcomes the mellifluous Tyler James Russell for a Boba Fett-infused chinfest featuring some of Tyler's early & action-packed Star Wars fan fiction. Bounty hunters, The Sound & The Fury, shitty first drafts, the detestable messiness of Dostoevsky, guilty lapses, & writing novels as screenplays first: it's all here. Enjoy more Tyler at https://www.tylerjamesrussell.com & join the early sh*t chat at https://www.facebook.com/WRTESpodcast and on Instagram @writersreadtheirearlyshit. Music, as always, by the invincible DJ Max in Tokyo; check him out at http://soundcloud.com/djmaxintokyo. Support the show, if you'd like, at https://www.buymeacoffee.com/wrtes & thank you, wherever you are, for listening.

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Jason welcomes Sarah Tsiang for a relatively spicy conversation about Popeye Candy Sticks, getting your ego out of your poems, being dead inside, & ghosts on the phone. Also discussed: does the chicken care? Check out Sarah's website at https://sarahtsiang.com/ and join the early sh*t chat at https://www.facebook.com/WRTESpodcast and on Instagram @writersreadtheirearlyshit. Music, as always, by the cosmic DJ Max in Tokyo; check him out at http://soundcloud.com/djmaxintokyo. Thanks for listening.

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Jason welcomes blogger and travel advisor John Davidson for a look at the world of online travel writing, the coolest places to visit in Japan, and some early, bloggy sh*t. Also discussed: Jason's affection for Australian space-rockers The Church, a smashing end to wedded bliss, macaroni & cheese meat pies, KISS, and flowing mullets. Check out John's blog at https://japan-australia.blogspot.com/ and join the conversation at https://www.facebook.com/WRTESpodcast and on Instagram @writersreadtheirearlyshit. Music, as always, by the very ace DJ Max in Tokyo (http://soundcloud.com/djmaxintokyo). Thanks for listening. 

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Jason welcomes writer pal Erin McGregor for some grade five equine poetry, macramé bathroom decorations, second-hand lipstick, English-speaking monkeys, and the unexpected aceness of Ovaltine. Music by DJ Max in Tokyo; check him out at http://soundcloud.com/djmaxintokyo. Join the conversation on the Facebook page at https://www.facebook.com/WRTESpodcast and on Instagram @writersreadtheirearlyshit. Thanks, as always, for listening. 

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Jason welcomes writer Adam Lewis Schroeder for a deeply grim (and grimly deep) confab about high school poetry, the Hardy Boys, ancient Okanagan Valley literary feuds, the carnal adventures of Schlump, and whether or not WRTES should be a podcast about kittens. Music by DJ Max in Tokyo (http://soundcloud.com/djmaxintokyo). Join the conversation on Facebook at https://www.facebook.com/WRTESpodcast and on Instagram @writersreadtheirearlyshit. Thanks for listening. 

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Jason welcomes Buddhist cartoonist Victoria Taylor for a charming discussion about the art of memoir, elephant traps, pounding the bones, and spending time with the beloved dead. There are also a few brief appearances from a frosted vagina. Check out Victoria's memoirs on Instagram (@victoria4971) and join the conversation on Facebook at https://www.facebook.com/WRTESpodcast and on Instagram @writersreadtheirearlyshit. If you'd like to support the podcast, you can do so here: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/wrtes. Many thanks to DJ Max in Tokyo (http://soundcloud.com/djmaxintokyo) for the music, and many thanks to you for listening, wherever and whoever you are.

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Jason welcomes beat wizard DJ Max in Tokyo for a free-ranging chat about a tiny Bob Marley living in your fridge, thermal detonators, Koda Kumi, the Land of Fermented Soybeans, indie rock pricks, and the relative unsexiness of the bass clarinet. Check out DJ Max in Tokyo's Soundcloud page (http://soundcloud.com/djmaxintokyo) and the Beats and Beets Project on YouTube and join the conversation on Facebook (https://www.facebook.com/WRTESpodcast). If you'd like to support the podcast, you can do so here: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/wrtes. Thanks for listening. 

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Jason welcomes his sister Alison for a chilling & turbulent tour through some of her adolescent journals, poems, & short stories. Will it all disappear in a rhythmic, romantic haze, or does Alison know too much to die? Music by DJ Max in Tokyo (http://soundcloud.com/djmaxintokyo). Join the conversation at https://theconnectionproject.ca/ and on the Facebook page at https://www.facebook.com/WRTESpodcast. Thanks for listening. 

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Ace bassist for Tokyo-based super group Glow and the Forest David White details attic happenings & his aversion to meat, philosophical and actual, while Jason stands, poetically, on a windy ridge, with cohorts. Please contact the Facebook page (https://www.facebook.com/WRTESpodcast) if you're interested in reading your own early sh*t on the show, & check out https://www.youtube.com/user/glowandtheforest for most of your Glow and the Forest needs.

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Welcome to the show! What is this, & why does it exist? Introductory info & details about Writers Read Their Early Sh*t. Plus: Jason's foundational early poem. 

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