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    <description><![CDATA[<p>ow do you know when you should have &quot;The Talk&quot; with your kids about what is happening in our world, our society, our communities.  Systemic racism is embedded in every area that is inevitably going to impact our children and if we don&apos;t prepare them does that make parents that are in denial of the system that impacts us all or just protective of the innocence that exists in children?  Does it fill our children with fear or faith within a system that was not designed with them in mind.  Listen to the conversation as Orlando and former CFL Legend Chuck Ealy speak on what it was in the past and what it is now as they both discuss the importance of having &quot;The Talk&quot;.  It&apos;s Complicated.<br/><br/>Orlando Bowen is an inspirational, dynamic, corporate speaker who equips people to get off the sidelines of life so they can make a difference for someone else. To book Orlando for your next event, please email him at bookings@onevoiceoneteam.org</p>]]></description>
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    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Skye Bowen, an educator of 20 years teaches us all the POWER behind Restorative Justice practices in schools.  Mistakes are things that we all are prone to as human beings, especially in our teenage years.  When youth make mistakes in school by crossing boundaries or breaking the rules, instead of pushing them out and /or suspending them the most successful way to have the youth come back and experience community, personal and academic success is to restore them.  As educators ...]]></itunes:summary>
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    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Orlando shares his story and asks us all the question that we all have to answer at some point.  When we are faced with racism in any form do we respond from a place of fear or faith.  If we respond from fear, racism will be what we experience and we will continue the cycle that comes along with this experience.  If we choose to respond from a place of faith, there will be opportunities to build bridges and grow from a place of understanding.  Are you ready...?   Orlando B...]]></itunes:summary>
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    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Robin Whalen, President of Church + State &amp; Ron Tite, Founder of Church + State as well as the author of Think Do Say, speak about how they have been affected by George Floyd's murder and how it has impacted the way they lead their teams and hire new staff.  Orlando asks difficult questions that both Ron &amp; Robin answer with the kind of transparency we all need to share. Listen as they all discuss how we as a black community should approach conversations regarding racism from an e...]]></itunes:summary>
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    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[In this episode Orlando speaks with two seasoned educators, Skye Bowen and Antonella Kalaitzis, who talk about the frustration they experience as educators in a system embedded with racism.  Listen as they speak on how we as a society, especially educators, can make a difference right now.   Orlando Bowen is an inspirational, dynamic, corporate speaker who equips people to get off the sidelines of life so they can make a difference for someone else. To book Orlando for your next eve...]]></itunes:summary>
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    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Orlando Bowen, former CFL football player explains the purpose for these complicated conversations.  In our present social racial climate much has been said and seen regarding racism and most of it has been because of what is released on social media and the news.  In Orlando's travels as a speaker, corporate coach and community leader, he has found the state of many Canadians is unaware, unsuspecting and sometimes denial.  Many have expressed to him they believe that racism is...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p>Orlando Bowen, former CFL football player explains the purpose for these complicated conversations.  In our present social racial climate much has been said and seen regarding racism and most of it has been because of what is released on social media and the news.  In Orlando&apos;s travels as a speaker, corporate coach and community leader, he has found the state of many Canadians is unaware, unsuspecting and sometimes denial.  Many have expressed to him they believe that racism is a US problem and have a hard time embracing the fact that racism is indeed experienced daily in Canada as well.  Orlando, being a survivor of police brutality, will be engaging in uncomfortable conversations with CEO&apos;s, former professional athlete&apos;s, youth, Educators, family and friends to discuss where systemic racism is embedded in our daily experience and hopefully how we can be a part of dismantling it.  Orlando is aware the work won&apos;t come without conversations and complicated ones, so let&apos;s go.<br/><br/>-Orlando Bowen is an inspirational, dynamic, corporate speaker who equips people to get off the sidelines of life so they can make a difference for someone else. To book Orlando for your next event, please email us at bookings@gamedaytraininginc.com</p>]]></description>
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