Next Step Leadership

Interview with Peter Greer, Part 1 - Season 6, Episode 19

Thu, 09 Jul 2026 00:00:00 -0400

In this episode, Chris Maxwell and Tracy Reynolds welcome global leader and author Peter Greer for an honest discussion about leadership calling, drift, and integrity. Drawing from How Leaders Lose Their Way: And How to Make Sure It Doesn’t Happen to You, Peter shares insights from his leadership journey and research into the subtle patterns that often lead leaders off course. Leadership can be a dangerous place to live. We can learn from the failures of others. The conversation explores warning signs of drift, the dangers of isolation, and the importance of accountability in sustaining faithful leadership over time. Peter encourages us to not just know what others have done wrong, but to humbly make sure it doesn't happen to us.

https://www.peterkgreer.com/

https://www.peterkgreer.com/books/

https://www.hopeinternational.org/

Interview with JR Briggs, Part 2 - Season 6, Episode 18

Thu, 02 Jul 2026 00:00:00 -0400

We often forget that questions can shape culture, faith, and community. In this follow-up conversation, Chris Maxwell and Tracy Reynolds continue their dialogue with J.R. Briggs, focusing on how better questions shape organizational culture, spiritual formation, and community life. J.R. reflects on how curiosity builds trust, prevents isolation, and creates environments where people feel heard and valued. The episode offers practical wisdom for leaders seeking to cultivate thoughtful teams, healthier conversations, and deeper faith through intentional questioning rather than quick conclusions. The Art of Asking Better Questions: Pursuing Stronger Relationships, Healthier Leadership, and Deeper Faith is a book needed in today's culture.

Kairos Partnerships - https://www.kairospartnerships.org/about

Resilient Leaders Podcast - https://www.kairospartnerships.org/podcasts

https://www.amazon.com/stores/J.-R.-Briggs/author/B001K8DD78?ref=ap_rdr&shoppingPortalEnabled=true&ccs_id=7dc495b0-1344-467d-aa98-1d5dc5aeae18

Interview with JR Briggs, Part 1 - Season 6, Episode 17

Thu, 25 Jun 2026 00:00:00 -0400

In this episode, Chris Maxwell and Tracy Reynolds welcome pastor and author J.R. Briggs for a rich conversation about curiosity, calling, and the transformative role of questions in leadership and faith. Drawing from The Art of Asking Better Questions: Pursuing Stronger Relationships, Healthier Leadership, and Deeper Faith, J.R. shares his personal journey and the experiences that shaped his pastoral heart and leadership philosophy. The discussion highlights why leaders often default to answers instead of questions and how curiosity can strengthen relationships, deepen faith, and foster healthier leadership cultures. Welcome curiosity. And be ready for interesting, inspiring, and challenging questions--too often forgotten in this world of brief, shallow chats.

Kairos Partnerships - https://www.kairospartnerships.org/about

Resilient Leaders Podcast - https://www.kairospartnerships.org/podcasts

https://www.amazon.com/stores/J.-R.-Briggs/author/B001K8DD78?ref=ap_rdr&shoppingPortalEnabled=true&ccs_id=7dc495b0-1344-467d-aa98-1d5dc5aeae18

Interview with E.K. Strawser, Part 2 - Season 6, Episode 16

Thu, 18 Jun 2026 00:00:00 -0400

The conversation with Eun Strawser continues with a practical and biblical exploration of shared leadership. Together, Chris, Tracy, and Eun discuss the dangers of leading alone, the temptation to control, and the misconception that leaders must be experts. Eun challenges listeners to ask whether they are willing to share power and truly lead with people rather than over them. Emphasizing that leadership is meant to be done together—as imitators of Jesus—this episode offers wisdom for pastors, church planters, and teams seeking healthier, more faithful ways to flourish with the people God has already given them.

https://www.iwacollaborative.com/ekstrawser

https://www.iwacollaborative.com/books

Interview with E.K Strawser, Part 1 - Season 6, Episode 15

Thu, 11 Jun 2026 00:00:00 -0400

In this episode, Chris and Tracy welcome E. K. Strawser—pastor, physician, consultant, church planter, and author of You Were Never Meant to Lead Alone. Originally from South Korea, E. K. shares her journey through medical school, ministry, and church planting, reflecting on how her story and place have shaped her leadership. She challenges common assumptions about power, influence, and success, asking hard questions like: Are we drawing crowds or making disciples? Does the church exist just to survive? Grounded in Scripture, particularly Acts and the Epistles, E. K. calls leaders to embrace shared leadership and faithful community.

https://www.iwacollaborative.com/ekstrawser

https://www.iwacollaborative.com/books

Interview with Timothy Jones, Part 2 - Season 6, Episode 14

Thu, 04 Jun 2026 00:00:00 -0400

In this follow-up conversation, Timothy Jones explores the heart of Fully Beloved (pronounced bel-uh-vəd) and why understanding the Trinity as a community of love matters for everyday leadership. Chris and Tracy guide a discussion centered on relationships, rest, and freedom from striving. Timothy explains how knowing we are fully beloved changes the way we relate to God, ourselves, and others—moving leaders from performance and competition into trust and belonging. This episode offers a hopeful reminder that leadership flows best from secure relationships rather than exhausted effort.

Website: https://www.revtimothyjones.com/

Substack: Tim Jones from Relatable or timothyjones3.substack.com

Interview with Timothy Jones, Part 1 - Season 6, Episode 13

Thu, 28 May 2026 00:00:00 -0400

Pastor and author Timothy Jones joins the podcast to discuss the deep question beneath our fractured culture: Am I loved? Drawing from his book Fully Beloved, Timothy reflects on his own story, pastoral ministry, and the widespread sense of drift many feel today. He speaks to the loneliness, division, and relational strain present across various Christian traditions and cultural contexts, pointing listeners toward God’s deep, steady, and trustworthy love. This episode invites leaders to consider how their own understanding of love, belonging, and trust shapes the way they lead and care for others.

Website: https://www.revtimothyjones.com/

Substack: Tim Jones from Relatable or timothyjones3.substack.com

Interview with Isaac Serrano, Part 2 - Season 6, Episode 12

Thu, 21 May 2026 00:00:00 -0400

Continuing the conversation, Isaac Serrano dives deeper into his book When Life Feels Empty. This episode focuses on the difference between destructive emptiness and the kind of emptiness God uses to form us. Isaac speaks candidly to leaders who feel drained, alone, and running on empty, offering practical wisdom on staying present with God when answers feel distant. He emphasizes the importance of gratitude—beginning with our first waking thoughts—and points to Jesus, who gave thanks even on the night He was betrayed. This conversation offers hope, perspective, and gentle guidance for leaders navigating quiet, uncertain seasons.

https://www.isaacserrano.com/

Interview with Isaac Serrano, Part 1 - Season 6, Episode 11

Thu, 14 May 2026 00:00:00 -0400

In this opening conversation, Chris and Tracy sit down with pastor, theologian, and author Isaac Serrano to explore his personal story and calling. Isaac reflects on the early influence of a youth pastor who believed in him, entrusted him with responsibility, and helped him grow in faith even when he felt out of place within his surrounding culture. He shares how those formative experiences shaped his desire to create spaces where the next generation can ask honest academic questions, wrestle with real-life issues, and arrive at faithful, biblical conclusions. Together, they discuss leadership, identity, and why so many faithful people experience seasons of spiritual emptiness—even while doing meaningful work.

https://www.isaacserrano.com/

Interview with Jon Oliver, Part 2 - Season 6, Episode 10

Thu, 07 May 2026 00:00:00 -0400

In the final episode, Jon Oliver returns to talk candidly about the inner life of leaders. He joins Chris and Tracy to explore themes of soul care and self-care, especially for those navigating the demands of ministry and leadership.

Jon shares wisdom on sustaining spiritual health, listening to God’s voice, and living with intention. He offers a hopeful vision of leadership as a sacred partnership—reminding listeners that each of us has the opportunity to co-author our lives with God, walking faithfully into what He is writing next.

https://www.nciphc.com/discipleship-ministries

Linked In - https://www.linkedin.com/in/jon-oliver-ba91634a/

Interview with Jon Oliver, Part 1 - Season 6, Episode 9

Thu, 30 Apr 2026 00:00:00 -0400

In this episode, Chris and Tracy sit down with Jon Oliver for a wide-ranging conversation about calling, leadership, and faithfulness in ministry. Jon shares his personal story and testimony, including the influence of growing up with a father who was a bi-vocational pastor.

They explore the importance of mentors, spiritual guidance, and healthy models of leadership for those serving in ministry today. Jon reflects on his years of ministry, leadership with youth gatherings and Accelerant Youth Convention, and what it means to invest intentionally in the next generation of leaders.

https://www.nciphc.com/discipleship-ministries

Linked In - https://www.linkedin.com/in/jon-oliver-ba91634a/

Interview with Cheryl & Jackie Johns, Part 2 - Season 6, Episode 8

Thu, 23 Apr 2026 00:00:00 -0400

In their second episode, Jackie and Cheryl Johns continue the conversation by exploring how Scripture shapes leaders from the inside out. They discuss how leaders can approach Scripture with humility, expectation, and openness to the Spirit’s work.

With pastoral warmth and scholarly insight, Jackie and Cheryl remind listeners that the Bible is not only to be studied—but received, as the Holy Spirit forms us through God’s living Word. Chris and Tracy talk with them about Re-enchanting the Text and the need to recover wonder, attentiveness, and spiritual depth in Bible study. Leaders are invited to enter a relationship of learning.

Encountering the Living Word Book - https://www.amazon.com/Encountering-Living-Word-Relational-Inductive/dp/B0DZSSYHFC

Chery Johns - https://united.edu/cheryl-bridges-johns/

Jackie Johns - https://www.cbeinternational.org/person/jackie-david-johns/

Interview with Cheryl & Jackie Johns, Part 1 - Season 6, Episode 7

Thu, 16 Apr 2026 00:00:00 -0400

In this rich and thoughtful episode, Chris and Tracy welcome Jackie David Johns and Cheryl Bridges Johns for a conversation shaped by years of ministry, scholarship, and spiritual formation. They share their story of serving in both church and academic settings, and why the church needs deeply formed Pentecostal scholars.

The conversation centers on their book Encountering the Living Word, exploring inductive Bible study not just as a method, but as a relational encounter with God. Jackie and Cheryl emphasize that Scripture is best studied as a time of communion—guided by the truth that the Holy Spirit is our teacher. Encountering the Living Word is an invitation for all leaders seeking to make the right steps in their spiritual journey.

Encountering the Living Word Book - https://www.amazon.com/Encountering-Living-Word-Relational-Inductive/dp/B0DZSSYHFC

Chery Johns - https://united.edu/cheryl-bridges-johns/

Jackie Johns - https://www.cbeinternational.org/person/jackie-david-johns/

Interview with Chris Maxwell, Part 2 - Season 6, Episode 6

Thu, 09 Apr 2026 00:00:00 -0400

Continuing their conversation on the new book Contentment: What You’re Searching for Is Already Yours, Tracy Reynolds and Chris Maxwell focus on the daily practice of contentment and its role in leadership, relationships, and spiritual growth. Chris offers practical insight into how individuals and groups can cultivate contentment through intentional rhythms, reflection, and community engagement. The episode explores how contentment reshapes leadership posture, reduces comparison, and encourages healthier, more grounded living. Listeners will also hear how Chris recommends using his book personally and in group settings for deeper formation and meaningful discussion. Do not miss this conversation and these invitations to find calm waters in a world of uncertainty.

https://chrismaxwell.me

FaceBook - https://www.facebook.com/PauseWithChrisMaxwell

X (Twitter) - https://x.com/CMaxMan

Linked In - https://www.linkedin.com/in/chris-maxwell-5b24b93/

Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/cmaxman/

TruePotential Publishers - https://www.truepotentialmedia.com/chris-maxwell/

Interview with Chris Maxwell, Part 1 - Season 6, Episode 5

Thu, 02 Apr 2026 00:00:00 -0400

In this episode of Next Step Leadership podcast, Tracy Reynolds guides a thoughtful conversation with Chris Maxwell as Chris steps into the guest seat to discuss his newest book, Contentment: What You’re Searching for Is Already Yours. Chris shares personal reflections on calling, restlessness, and the quiet search many leaders carry beneath their responsibilities. Together, they explore what contentment means in today’s fast-paced culture, why faithful leaders often feel unsettled, and how spiritual formation shapes a deeper sense of peace. This conversation invites listeners to move beyond striving and rediscover the presence of contentment already at work in their lives and leadership. Maxwell's 13th book provides a wonderful opportunity for a different type of rewiring the brain. Thinking with contentment adds peace in a world of people feeling overwhelmed and unfulfilled.

https://chrismaxwell.me

FaceBook - https://www.facebook.com/PauseWithChrisMaxwell

X (Twitter) - https://x.com/CMaxMan

Linked In - https://www.linkedin.com/in/chris-maxwell-5b24b93/

Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/cmaxman/

TruePotential Publishers - https://www.truepotentialmedia.com/chris-maxwell/

Interviews with Trudy Simmons, Part 2 - Season 6, Episode 4

Thu, 26 Mar 2026 00:00:00 -0400

In her second conversation, Trudy Simmons continues to speak with wisdom and compassion about the deep hurts she sees in today’s leaders and ministries. Chris and Tracy explore the pressures leaders face, the emotional weight many carry in silence, and the spiritual cost of ignoring pain.

Trudy offers thoughtful insights from her work in counseling and coaching, pointing listeners toward true hope that is rooted in healing, truth, and God’s presence. This episode is a timely reminder that encouragement, care, and honest conversation are not luxuries for leaders—they are necessities. Her words bring true hope in a hurting world.

https://trudysimmons.com/

The Christian View - https://trudysimmons.com/the-christian-view/

https://miltoncounseling.com/

Interview with Trudy Simmons, Part 1 - Season 6, Episode 3

Thu, 19 Mar 2026 00:00:00 -0400

In this episode of the Next Step Leadership Podcast, Chris Maxwell and Tracy Reynolds welcome Trudy Simmons for an honest and hope-filled conversation about leadership, healing, and faith. Trudy shares her powerful personal story—working through past speech challenges and learning disabilities to become a counselor, coach, and communicator serving leaders and ministries around the world.

Together, they discuss the importance of safe places and safe people, the dangers of identity confusion and comparison, and what happens when trauma is left unaddressed. This episode offers deep encouragement for leaders who are learning to lead from wholeness rather than hidden wounds. Listen and receive hope, healing, and the courage to lead.

https://trudysimmons.com/

The Christian View - https://trudysimmons.com/the-christian-view/

https://miltoncounseling.com/

Interview with Jon & Erica Campbell, Part 2 - Season 1, Episode 2

Thu, 12 Mar 2026 00:00:00 -0400

Continuing the conversation, Jon and Erica Campbell return to share what life and ministry look like now in Los Angeles. Chris and Tracy ask about the realities of serving in a complex city, sustaining hope when progress feels slow, and caring for the soul while meeting constant needs.

Jon and Erica speak honestly about lessons learned, spiritual rhythms that sustain them, and their hopes for the future. This episode offers wisdom and encouragement for leaders serving faithfully in demanding places—and a reminder that God is at work even when the journey feels hard.

Jon & Erika Together - https://www.jonandericatogether.com/

Support Jon & Erika - https://give.iphc.org/project/jon-and-erica-campbell-1

Jon Instagram - @_jon_campbell

Erika Instagram - @_erica_campbell

Church Plant - www.goodnessandlove.org

Interview with Jon & Erica Campbell, Part 1 - Season 6, Episode 1

Thu, 05 Mar 2026 00:00:00 -0500

What happens when God calls you to leave what’s familiar and step into the unknown? In this inspiring episode, Chris and Tracy talk with Jon and Erica Campbell about their journey of faith, obedience, and courage that led them to Los Angeles.

Jon and Erica share their story—the call, the cost, the transition, and the surprises along the way. Together, they reflect on what it means to say “yes” to God even when the path is unclear. This episode will challenge and encourage leaders who sense God inviting them into something new.

Bill Robinson - Incarnate Leadership book - HERE

Jon & Erika Together - https://www.jonandericatogether.com/

Support Jon & Erika - https://give.iphc.org/project/jon-and-erica-campbell-1

Jon Instagram - @_jon_campbell

Erika Instagram - @_erica_campbell

Church Plant - www.goodnessandlove.org

Interview with April Yamasaki, Part 2 - Season 5, Episode 52

Thu, 26 Feb 2026 00:00:00 -0500

Grief, loss, and change touch every life—and leaders are no exception. In this moving episode, April Yamasaki returns to discuss her book Hope Beyond Our Sorrows and what it means to live with sorrow while holding on to hope.

Chris and Tracy explore April’s reflections on loss, her pastoral experience walking with those who grieve, and the kind of hope that grows slowly and honestly in the midst of pain. This conversation offers compassion, depth, and encouragement for anyone navigating sorrow—or supporting others through it.

https://aprilyamasaki.com/

Interview with April Yamasaki, Part 1 - Season 5, Episode 51

Thu, 19 Feb 2026 00:00:00 -0500

In a world that rarely slows down, this episode invites leaders to rediscover the spiritual power of pause. Chris Maxwell and Tracy Reynolds welcome pastor and author April Yamasaki for a reflective conversation about writing, stillness, and spiritual formation.

April shares her journey as a writer, how the practice of pausing has shaped her life and ministry, and why intentional stillness is essential for spiritual growth. This episode offers gentle wisdom and practical guidance for leaders longing to listen more deeply, live more attentively, and lead from a place of quiet faithfulness.

https://aprilyamasaki.com/

Interview with Travis Lowe, Part 2 - Season 5, Episode 50

Thu, 12 Feb 2026 00:00:00 -0500

Money can be one of the most difficult topics for leaders to talk about—yet it’s deeply connected to faith and discipleship. In this episode, Travis Lowe returns to explore stewardship, finances, and meaning in ministry.

Chris and Tracy talk with Travis about his new role in denominational financial leadership, the common struggles pastors face with money, and how stewardship can be practiced with grace rather than guilt. With honesty and wisdom, Travis offers practical insights for leaders seeking healthier financial habits and a deeper understanding of generosity rooted in faith.

IPHC Extension Loan Fund - https://www.facebook.com/iphcelf

HopeWords Writers Conference - https://www.hopewords.org/

Interview with Travis Lowe, Part 1 - Season 5, Episode 49

Thu, 05 Feb 2026 00:00:00 -0500

What does faithful pastoring look like in a changing world? In this episode of the Next Step Leadership Podcast, Chris Maxwell and Tracy Reynolds sit down with pastor and writer Travis Lowe for a thoughtful conversation about ministry, leadership, and hope.

Travis shares his personal journey into pastoral life, the lessons he’s learned through years of serving people, and how the landscape of ministry continues to shift. He also talks about the heart behind the HopeWords Writers Conference and why writing and storytelling matter for pastors and leaders today. This episode offers encouragement, perspective, and hope for anyone committed to leading well.

IPHC Extension Loan Fund - https://www.facebook.com/iphcelf

HopeWords Writers Conference - https://www.hopewords.org/

Interview with Kathleen Norris, Part 2 - Season 5, Episode 48

Thu, 29 Jan 2026 00:00:00 -0500

In this deeply moving follow-up episode, Kathleen Norris guides Tracy and Chris into the heart of her newest book, Rebecca Sue: A Sister’s Reflection on Disability, Faith, and Love. Hear the reflections from Kathleen’s latest work, which will be a great story for today’s pastors and leaders to learn from. Kathleen shares stories of her sister—her personality, her struggles, her joy—and the ways her sister’s life reshaped Kathleen’s spirituality and expanded her understanding of love, dignity, and what it means to bear God’s image. This episode offers pastors and leaders a compassionate and practical conversation about disability in the church, family grief, hope in suffering, and the spiritual insights that rise from honoring the lives of those society too often overlooks. It is tender, honest, and beautifully pastoral. Rebecca Sue's story from Kathleen Norris reminds listeners that faith, disability, love, and death are part of life and ministry.

https://www.ivpress.com/Search?q=Kathleen+norris

https://www.amazon.com/Rebecca-Sue-Sisters-Reflections-Disability/dp/1514011409

Interview with Kathleen Norris, Part 1 - Season 5, Episode 47

Thu, 22 Jan 2026 00:00:00 -0500

In this opening conversation with acclaimed writer Kathleen Norris, Chris and Tracy welcome one of Chris Maxwell’s all-time favorite authors into the Next Step Leadership studio. Kathleen shares the story behind her vocation—her upbringing, her journey of faith, and the experiences that shaped her distinctive voice as a poet, memoirist, and spiritual writer. The conversation explores the contemplative rhythms that have guided her life, the monastic influences woven through her work, and the deep connections she sees between faith and the ordinary moments of daily existence. Listeners are invited into a reflective, gentle, and profoundly human conversation with one of the most beloved Christian writers of our time. Welcome to the life and words of Kathleen Norris: a journey of faith, writing, and spiritual reflection.

https://www.ivpress.com/Search?q=Kathleen+norris

https://www.amazon.com/Rebecca-Sue-Sisters-Reflections-Disability/dp/1514011409

Interview with Todd Korpi, Part 2 - Season 5, Episode 46

Thu, 15 Jan 2026 00:00:00 -0500

Episode 2 — Todd Korpi / AI Goes to Church: Wisdom for a Digital Age

In this insightful and highly practical episode, Tracy Reynolds and Chris Maxwell dive with Todd Korpi into the central ideas of his book, AI Goes to Church: Pastoral Wisdom for Artificial Intelligence. Todd unpacks the opportunities, challenges, and ethical considerations facing today’s church leaders as AI becomes part of everyday life and ministry. He offers grounded, pastoral guidance for how pastors can use AI responsibly, protect their communities, and remain deeply rooted in Christ while leading in an increasingly digital age. This episode is hopeful, actionable, and essential listening for leaders preparing for the future. The practical and pastoral applications for today’s leaders need to be heard.

https://www.toddkorpi.com/

Interview with Todd Korpi, Part 1 - Season 5, Episode 45

Thu, 08 Jan 2026 00:00:00 -0500

Episode 1 — Todd Korpi / AI Goes to Church: Wisdom for a Digital Age

Learn in this episode about a leader’s journey and why the church must talk about artificial intelligence. Chris and Tracy begin their two-part series with Todd Korpi by exploring his story—his spiritual journey, his ministry path, and the moments that drew him into the world of technology, culture, and pastoral leadership. Todd shares why he believes the Church cannot afford to ignore the influence of artificial intelligence and how pastors can thoughtfully engage emerging technologies without fear. This episode helps set the stage for a broader, needed conversation about the intersection of faith, wisdom, and the digital world shaping the next generation.

https://www.toddkorpi.com/

Interview with Dave Richardson, Part 2 - Season 5, Episode 44

Thu, 01 Jan 2026 00:00:00 -0500

Episode 2 — Wisdom for the Next Generation with David Richardson

In this second conversation with David Richardson, Tracy and Chris turn toward the lessons learned over a lifetime of faithful ministry. David speaks candidly about endurance, emotional health, humility, and the evolving landscape of pastoral leadership. He offers guidance for young pastors, encouragement for weary leaders, and insights into what truly matters over the long haul. The episode is filled with practical wisdom—simple, soulful reminders that leadership is not performance but discipleship, relationship, and steady obedience to Jesus. This is a hopeful, heart-shaping conversation for leaders at every stage. It offers guidance for lessons we should learn, who we can serve in leadership, and faith for what’s next.

https://www.rphc.net/

https://www.hopewords.org/conference

IPHC Extension Loan Fund - https://www.elfiphc.org/

Interview with Dave Richardson, Part 1 - Season 5, Episode 43

Thu, 25 Dec 2025 00:00:00 -0500

Episode 1 — The Story Behind the Leader with David Richardson

In the first of two episodes with Pastor David Richardson, Chris and Tracy guide listeners through an intimate and heartfelt conversation about David’s life story. David reflects on the people, places, and experiences that shaped his calling; the joys and heartbreaks of ministry; and how God has used seasons of struggle to form depth, compassion, and resilience in his leadership. This episode is warm, personal, and rich with authenticity—an invitation for leaders to remember where they’ve come from, how far God has carried them, and how their stories continue to shape their influence today. Hear Pastor David's story about faith, formation, and the personal journey of leadership.

https://www.rphc.net/

https://www.hopewords.org/conference

IPHC Extension Loan Fund - https://www.elfiphc.org/

Interview with Mary DeMuth, Part 2 - Season 5, Episode 42

Thu, 18 Dec 2025 00:00:00 -0500

The dialogue continues in Part 2 as Chris and Tracy go deeper with Mary DeMuth into the heart of her work. Together they explore specific themes from her books, each one offering wisdom for today’s leaders—regardless of age, background, or personal story. Mary not only shares lessons from her life and writing, but also highlights the central role of prayer in everything she does. As a writer, literary agent, and gifted storyteller, she invites listeners to engage with her words, join her in prayer, and discover practical insight for living and leading with faith. This episode is a rich reminder that leadership flows out of both story and Spirit.

https://www.marydemuth.com/

https://www.marydemuth.com/bookstore/

Interview with Mary DeMuth, Part 1 - Season 1, Episode 41

Thu, 11 Dec 2025 00:00:00 -0500

In this inspiring first conversation, hosts Chris Maxwell and Tracy Reynolds welcome Mary DeMuth—author, literary agent, podcaster, and storyteller. Chris shares how he first heard Mary speak at a conference, began reading her books, and eventually started communicating with her. Those conversations, along with the impact of her writing, led him to invite Mary to Next Step Leadership. In this episode, Mary tells her story—what shaped her life, how she began writing, and the ways God has guided her leadership through both spoken and written words. Her journey offers today’s leaders practical encouragement: to take their own next steps faithfully and courageously, and to consider how words can shape the lives of those they serve.

https://www.marydemuth.com/

https://www.marydemuth.com/bookstore/

Interview with Stephen Jones, Part 2 - Season 5, Episode 40

Thu, 04 Dec 2025 00:00:00 -0500

The conversation with Stephen Jones continues as he and the hosts turn their attention more fully to ministry itself. Stephen reflects on his years of leading and mentoring young people, offering practical wisdom for anyone serving the next generation. His insights go beyond strategies, reminding leaders of the importance of caring for themselves spiritually and emotionally while they pour into others. With a balance of passion and humility, Stephen provides a clear picture of what effective leadership can look like in today’s church, and how servant leaders can remain healthy as they guide young people toward Christ.

https://www.ccrdc.org/meet-the-team

https://iphc.org/discipleship/our-team/

Interview with Stephen Jones, Part 1 - Season 5, Episode 39

Thu, 27 Nov 2025 00:00:00 -0500

In this heartfelt episode, Tracy Reynolds and Chris Maxwell sit down with their longtime friend Stephen Jones, a leader who has dedicated his life to showing God’s love to the younger generation. Stephen shares his personal testimony, weaving in stories about his family and the faithfulness of God through their journey. The conversation highlights how his calling has unfolded over the years, leading him into ministry with youth at the local church level, in denominational conference settings, and on the leadership team for IPHC youth. This episode offers both encouragement and perspective on how God shapes leaders through story, family, and faithful service.

https://www.ccrdc.org/meet-the-team

https://iphc.org/discipleship/our-team/

Interview with John Plake, Part 2 - Season 5, Episode 38

Thu, 20 Nov 2025 00:00:00 -0500

In the second part of the conversation, Tracy Reynolds and Chris Maxwell dive deeper with Dr. John Plake into the urgent cultural questions raised at the end of Part 1. As editor-in-chief of the annual State of the Bible research, John brings clarity to what people really believe in today’s society and how those beliefs are shaping the church. More than statistics, his reflections highlight the importance of leaders listening closely to the people they serve. He challenges pastors and Christian leaders to interpret the cultural landscape with wisdom, compassion, and biblical truth—so they can guide others toward spiritual formation in Christ. This episode offers both practical insight and hope for navigating ministry in a complex world.

https://www.americanbible.org/the-mission/leadership/

https://www.linkedin.com/in/drjohnplake/

https://x.com/johnfplake

https://www.amazon.com/Missionary-Expatriate-Effectiveness-Competencies-Missionaries/dp/9004313818/ref=sr_1_1?crid=20J9341IW9URP&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.f_KlDuBrPkFNli_9v3VeQg.Y9EkCgabou2X_lvJXm64CM1eljM3LExYbic6yOX-JgA&dib_tag=se&keywords=john+plake&qid=1759573391&s=books&sprefix=john+plake%2Cstripbooks%2C96&sr=1-1

Interview with John Plake, Part 1 - Season 5, Episode 37

Thu, 13 Nov 2025 00:00:00 -0500

In this first conversation, Tracy Reynolds and Chris Maxwell welcome Dr. John Farquhar Plake, Chief Innovation Officer at the American Bible Society. John begins by sharing his personal journey—more than three decades of ministry as a pastor, missionary, professor, and researcher—and how those experiences shaped his calling to connect research with ministry. Listeners hear about his heart for innovation, discipleship, and equipping leaders to understand how people grow in Christ. The episode closes with a crucial turn: John unpacks current cultural realities and what people today actually believe about life, faith, and Scripture. His insights as editor-in-chief of the annual State of the Bible research offers a wake-up call for leaders seeking to shepherd well in a rapidly changing world.

https://www.americanbible.org/the-mission/leadership/

https://www.linkedin.com/in/drjohnplake/

https://x.com/johnfplake

Interview with Monte Drenner, Part 2 - Season 5, Episodes 36

Thu, 06 Nov 2025 00:00:00 -0500

In the second part of their conversation with Monte Drenner, Tracy and Chris continue exploring the practical ways faith brings strength and resilience. Monte offers wisdom for leaders, pastors, and anyone walking through hard times. His words are gentle but direct—acknowledging the struggles of life while pointing toward God’s peace. This episode is more than an interview; it’s an invitation to pause, to breathe, and to believe that healing is possible.

https://www.mtccounseling.com/about-us

Sacred Space book - https://www.mtccounseling.com/thescaredspace

Interview with Monte Drenner, Part 1 - Season 5, Episodes 35

Thu, 30 Oct 2025 00:00:00 -0400

Counselor, life coach, and author Monte Drenner joins Tracy and Chris for a meaningful discussion about hope and healing. In this first episode, Monte shares his story and his calling to walk alongside people in their struggles. He talks about the realities pastors and leaders face today—the long journeys, the deep pain, the hidden disappointments—and how faith offers peace in the midst of it all. Listening to Monte reminds us that even when the weight feels heavy, God’s hope and presence are greater.

https://www.mtccounseling.com/about-us

Sacred Space book - https://www.mtccounseling.com/thescaredspace

Chris & Tracy Updates - Season 5, Episode 34

Thu, 23 Oct 2025 00:00:00 -0400

Most weeks, Next Step Leadership features a guest. But this time, it’s just Tracy Reynolds and Chris Maxwell talking together. Their conversation is refreshingly honest—about vocational ministry, about writing books, and about the ongoing purpose behind serving God and people. They share lessons learned and lessons still being learned. Listening to them feels like sitting with two friends who care enough to speak the truth in love. If you’ve ever needed encouragement to keep serving faithfully, this episode will remind you that you’re not alone.

https://chrismaxwell.me/

Second Chair Leadership - Tracy Reynolds' book

Interview with Ben Crisp, Part 2 - Season 5, Episode 33

Thu, 16 Oct 2025 00:00:00 -0400

The conversation with Ben Crisp continues as he talks more openly about the challenges he and his wife have faced—especially walking through a season of deep disappointment. Tracy and Chris draw out his honest reflections on trusting God when life doesn’t go as planned, and on learning how faith holds us steady through the unknown. Ben’s story is not just about ministry; it’s about living with resilience, grace, and hope. As you listen, you’ll be encouraged to see God’s hand in your own story, even in the chapters that feel unfinished.

https://reflection.church/leadership

Sermons - https://reflection.church/sermons

Interview with Ben Crisp, Part 1 - Season 5, Episode 32

Thu, 09 Oct 2025 00:00:00 -0400

Ben Crisp’s story is a reminder of God’s presence through every season of life. From experiencing God’s touch as a young boy, to his years as a student at Emmanuel University, to graduate school, marriage, parenting, and now pastoring a church in Oklahoma—Ben has seen God’s faithfulness at every step. In this first part of the conversation, Tracy Reynolds and Chris Maxwell listen as Ben shares how God has shaped his calling and sustained him through both joys and disappointments. His words invite us to reflect on our own journeys and remember: God is with us, too.

https://reflection.church/leadership

Sermons - https://reflection.church/sermons

Interview with G. Richard Hoard, Part 2 - Season 5, Episode 31

Thu, 02 Oct 2025 00:00:00 -0400

In the second half of their interview with G. Richard Hoard, Tracy and Chris draw out even more depth and wisdom. Richard’s storytelling gifts shine as he talks about faith, creativity, and the power of words to shape lives. This episode feels both reflective and motivating, reminding us how powerful a well-lived story can be. As you listen, ask yourself: What can I take from Richard’s journey? How might his principles apply to my own? And what new steps of faith is God calling me to take today?

https://grichardhoard.com/

Interview with G. Richard Hoard, Part 1 - Season 5, Episode 30

Thu, 25 Sep 2025 00:00:00 -0400

Author and storyteller G. Richard Hoard joins Tracy and Chris for a fascinating conversation. In this first half of their dialogue, Richard shares glimpses of his background, his passion for writing, and his perspective on life. It feels like sitting across the table from a seasoned friend—listening, learning, and laughing together. This is the kind of conversation that Next Step Leadership loves to share: stories that encourage, challenge, and inspire. So, listen. Pass it along. And remember—your story matters too.

https://grichardhoard.com/

Interview with Brandon McDaniel, Part 2 - Season 5, Episode 29

Thu, 18 Sep 2025 00:00:00 -0400

The conversation with Brandon McDaniel continues as Tracy and Chris move deeper into his reflections—lessons learned, people who influenced him, his obedience to God’s call into ministry, the adjustments he’s had to make, and the rhythms he’s discovered for leading well. Brandon’s words are honest, practical, and encouraging. If Part 1 stirred your curiosity, Part 2 will speak even more clearly to where you live today. We need more young leaders like Brandon—caring for people, walking by true faith in God, and taking time to live with integrity.

https://www.mytc.org/our-team

Interview with Brandon McDaniel, Part 1 - Season 5, Episode 28

Thu, 11 Sep 2025 00:00:00 -0400

Brandon McDaniel brings a story worth hearing. From his younger years, through his time at Emmanuel University, to life with his wife and children, to serving on a church staff, and now leading as a pastor—everyone can learn from his journey. In this conversation, Tracy Reynolds and Chris Maxwell begin unpacking the experiences that have shaped Brandon—his faith, his calling, and his desire to invest in others. You’ll hear not just information, but inspiration. This first part of the interview will make you lean in closer and reflect on your own story. How does Brandon’s story connect with yours? What lessons can you carry forward?

https://www.mytc.org/our-team

Interview with Brianna Edwards, Part 2 - Season 5, Episode 27

Thu, 04 Sep 2025 00:00:00 -0400

In this second conversation, Chris and Tracy talk with Brianna Edwards—a licensed child therapist, mom, and author of the children’s book The Little Roo Who Stuffed Her Stuff. Designed as a tool for parents, counselors, and educators, the book encourages self-awareness and healthy conversations on difficult topics, with resources to help adults guide children well. Brianna shares lessons from her years as a caregiver, her work as a therapist, and her role as a mom. Together, they explore how to lead with compassion through seasons of sadness, grief, disability, and loss, and how ministries like Nathaniel’s Hope offer vital support. Her insights challenge us to see, serve, and walk alongside families living with special needs.

https://nathanielshope.org/

https://www.amazon.com/stores/author/B0DHWF4CFF?ingress=0&visitId=3d7ac8d2-5089-4f0b-a941-5af71c4fa978&ccs_id=43465036-05d2-4280-8b6f-2f05b806884a

Interview with Brianna Edwards, Part 1 - Season 5, Episode 26

Thu, 28 Aug 2025 00:00:00 -0400

When Brianna Edwards was almost 5 years old, life changed drastically. Her family welcomed the birth of her brother Nathaniel, but he was born with special needs—and her mother nearly died giving birth. From ages 5 to 9½, Brianna’s “normal” became hospital visits, medical procedures, and nonstop caregiving. For many families, this is everyday life, though it’s often forgotten by others. In this conversation, Brianna reflects on how those years shaped her, how she learned to lead and care well, and how her family now serves the special-needs community through Nathaniel’s Hope. Her story invites us to consider: What is your role in caring for families who are exhausted, uncertain, and desperate for help as they share God’s love in difficult seasons?

https://www.amazon.com/stores/author/B0DHWF4CFF?ingress=0&visitId=3d7ac8d2-5089-4f0b-a941-5af71c4fa978&ccs_id=43465036-05d2-4280-8b6f-2f05b806884a

https://nathanielshope.org/

Interview with Terry Ross, Part 2 - Season 5, Episode 25

Thu, 21 Aug 2025 00:00:00 -0400

In this second conversation with Terry Ross, you’ll hear even more of his heart—not just his past, but his hurts and hopes. He speaks with honesty about weakness and wounds, his mission endeavors, and his decades in ministry. His story reminds us how God works uniquely in each of our lives. Tracy and Chris invite you to listen closely, learn from Terry’s experiences, and take away truths you can apply to your own journey.

https://www.facebook.com/terry.ross.712

Interview with Terry Ross, Part 1 - Season 5, Episode 24

Thu, 14 Aug 2025 00:00:00 -0400

Tracy and Chris invite you to sit back and hear the remarkable story of Terry Ross. His journey weaves through years of business ventures, risky decisions, music, mission work, ministry, family, and miracles—each with lessons for all of us. Terry was climbing the ladder of business success while his deeper life was falling apart. But then, God intervened. Terry and Tracy share a long history in music, ministry, and friendship. They’ve learned how true, enduring relationships help us navigate life’s highs and lows. As you listen, think about your own journey: How has God met you? How has He directed your steps? And in this season, how might He be working in and through your life?

https://www.facebook.com/terry.ross.712

Interview with Peter Rosenberger, Part 2 - Season 5, Episode 23

Thu, 07 Aug 2025 00:00:00 -0400

In Part 2 of their conversation with Peter Rosenberger, Chris and Tracy continue to be inspired—and believe you will be, too. Peter’s deep love and care for his wife Gracie serve as a powerful reminder of Christ’s love for us all, and of how each of us can grow in caring for those in need.

Peter does whatever he can—whatever she needs—with steady, selfless commitment. The life of a caregiver carries a unique mix of sorrow, strength, humor, and hope. How can we respond when life brings long-term burdens? What does healthy mourning look like when the pain doesn’t go away? How can we faithfully show up for others when the needs keep coming?

Peter’s story teaches us how to love well, endure with grace, and serve like Jesus. Listen, learn, and be encouraged to love like Peter—and even more, like our Savior. We should be elbows deep in the sufferings of this world. That is how we must love.

https://peterrosenberger.com/

Interview with Peter Rosenberger, Part 1 - Season 5, Episode 22

Thu, 31 Jul 2025 00:00:00 -0400

Few conversations on Next Step Leadership have been as honest, funny, serious, and inspiring as this week’s episode. Chris and Tracy cherished both of their conversations with Peter Rosenberger—and they believe you will too. Peter has a remarkable ability to be both hilarious and convicting in the same moment. As the longtime caregiver for his wife Gracie—who has endured nearly one hundred surgeries—Peter knows the deep realities of pain, perseverance, and love. He’s also an author, musician, songwriter, and host of the podcast Hope for Caregivers. He understands medical bills, disappointments, and ongoing stress—but he lives to serve those who serve others. His compassion shines through in every word he speaks and writes.

What can we learn from Peter’s decades of walking through suffering with Gracie? How do we care well when everything seems to be going wrong? What wounds in the lives of those we love remain unhealed? In this powerful conversation, Peter reminds us that God continues to teach us—right in the middle of whatever we’re experiencing.

https://peterrosenberger.com/

Interview with Hal Donaldson, Part 2 - Season 5, Episode 21

Thu, 24 Jul 2025 00:00:00 -0400

In the second episode of their conversation with Hal Donaldson, Chris Maxwell and Tracy Reynolds believe the message is just what so many in today's world need to hear. Hal knows about wounds and scars. He knows about death and poverty. He knows about health issues and overworking. He knows about busyness as a drug of choice in this modern culture. But Hal also knows God. He knows God's love deeply and he hopes to share that love to needy people. Through his personal life and now through Convoy of Hope, the world is being changed. Hal's personal story influenced his approach to leadership and humanitarian work, motivating him to dive right into the biggest challenges facing global poverty. Convoy addresses hunger not with ideas, but with action. Hear Hal's heart and you'll understand why. Read his book What Really Matters: How to Care for Yourself and Serve a Hurting World, and his many other books, and let his desire to serve a hurting world become your desire. Reach your community. Be Jesus for those nearby and far away. The world is waiting for Hal, for Convoy of Hope, and for someone like you. Don't leave the needy people alone.

https://convoyofhope.org/

https://haldonaldson.org/

Interview with Hal Donaldson, Part 1 - Season 5, Episode 20

Thu, 17 Jul 2025 00:00:00 -0400

Hal Donaldson is the president and CEO of Convoy of Hope, a global, faith-based, nonprofit organization that works with communities to address root causes of poverty and hunger. According to Forbes, Convoy of Hope is among the 50 largest charities in the United States. Through its disaster responses and community development programs, Convoy has distributed more than $3 billion worth of food and supplies, helped more than 300 million people, and currently feeds more than 639,000 children every school day. Hal has received numerous public service awards. He has a Bachelor of Arts in journalism from San Jose State University and a Bachelor of Arts in biblical studies from Bethany University. Hal and his wife, Doree, have four daughters. Chris has known Hal for many years and is so honored he and Tracy could talk with Hal in Next Step Leadership. Hal is also the author of many books, including his latest, What Really Matters: How to Care for Yourself and Serve a Hurting World. As you hear Hal's testimony, you will understand better the importance of his book. Through his own wounds, Hal has chosen to realize what really matters and how to bring that truth to people in need all over the world.

https://convoyofhope.org/

https://haldonaldson.org/

Interview with Greg Dixon, Part 2 - Season 5, Episode 19

Thu, 10 Jul 2025 00:00:00 -0400

In this second conversation, Pastor Greg Dixon picks up where last week's episode ended. Chris and Tracy want you to hear these types of stories. We might pretend to be strong while deep inside wounds are impacting us. We might present powerful messages and vision and teaching sessions and songs, while our inner worlds carry the pain from past encounters. True leaders seek to be in the job that is best for them and for the people they serve. It should not be about titles. It should not be about the ladder of success. What are you passionate about? What has God placed inside your heart for the work of the kingdom? Promotion in God's kingdom looks so different that how our culture views it. Are you sitting in the chair that is best for you? Are you secure enough in Christ to sit in that chair? Greg also gives practical advice for the life of serving in ministry: Family, friends, time management, preparation, priorities, and boundaries. Look at your life and ministry to see what healthy boundaries you need to set.

https://ucf.cc/staff

Interview with Greg Dixon, Part 1 - Season 5, Episode 18

Thu, 03 Jul 2025 00:00:00 -0400

Tracy and Chris invite you to join their time with Pastor Greg Dixon. Like each episode in Next Step Leadership, this week's words are valuable for all who listen. Greg serves as executive pastor at Upward Christian Fellowship in Flat Rock, NC. Years ago, Greg's lead Pastor died unexpectedly. Greg began to serve as lead pastor during a very difficult season of life and ministry. In this conversation, Greg tells his testimony. God worked on Greg through his reluctance and his struggles, but God guided him to Emmanuel University. He talks about his pastor's death and about how the congregation was affected. Greg tried to care for the people while he was also grieving. Greg encourages listeners to know what area is best for them to serve. Moving up to a higher role in leadership isn't always where God leads us. Stepping into a job considered lower in our culture might be the high place God takes us. Is there an area you need to see a counselor? Is hard work taking the place of healing? Listen to his story of grief and growth, change and service, hope and healing.

https://ucf.cc/staff

Interview with Brandon Goff, Part 2 - Season 5, Episode 17

Thu, 26 Jun 2025 00:00:00 -0400

Chris Maxwell and Tracy Reynolds are glad you decided to join them in this week's episode of Next Step Leadership. As you listen to Pastor Brandon Goff's words, think about where you are in your personal journey and in your ministry. What lessons can you learn from Brandon's guidance? What beliefs do you often neglect? What statements of faith should be more a part of your everyday life? Through teaching, pastoring, and writing, Brandon offers key points so often forgotten in our hurried culture. His voice is needed during these days of questions and confusion. Receive his clarity. Reflect on his conclusions. Realize it isn't enough to memorize a few beliefs and then move on to a new trend or experience. God wants to continue teaching to you and through you, as He has done in Brandon's life and ministry. Believe God is bringing healing to your hurts and is transforming many lives through you.

Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/pastorbgoff/

Radiate Church - https://www.radiatechurch.net/

Radiate Church Podcast - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/radiate-church-podcast/id1390951785

Interview with Brandon Goff, Part 1 - Season 5, Episode 16

Thu, 19 Jun 2025 00:00:00 -0400

This week and next week you will hear the conversation Tracy and Chris enjoyed with Pastor Brandon Goff. Brandon is the lead pastor at Radiate Church in Columbia, SC. Their church emphasizes the importance of loving God, loving others, and loving life. They believe life doesn't end when a church service concludes. They seek to build relationships which show God's love throughout the week and throughout every season. Through joy and sorrow. Through celebration and transformation. Through questions asked and lessons learned. Brandon displays those elements in not only his ministry, but in his life. His story reminds those who listen that struggles are parts of this adventure. Listen and learn from how Brandon has endured the experiences and also grown through them. Think about how his story applies to you. And ask yourself, "What next steps can I take to learn what God is teaching me? How can I live with God's love flowing through me to others?"

Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/pastorbgoff/

Radiate Church - https://www.radiatechurch.net/

Radiate Church Podcast - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/radiate-church-podcast/id1390951785

Interview with Joel de Jesus, Part 2 - Season 5, Episode 15

Thu, 12 Jun 2025 00:00:00 -0400

Revived and Kickin' (Survival to Revival: A Forty Day Journey Through the Wilderness), an amazing book by Joel de Jesus, is ideal literature for today's leaders. Hear his story in this week's Next Step Leadership podcast with Tracy and Chris. Pick up his book and read about what his wilderness experiences were--and are—like. Have you ever felt God was silent? Have you ever obeyed God, and the outcomes of your decisions did not go as you expected? Have you faced major health issues and wondered when God would bring healing? Have you risked all to follow Jesus? In this world we do have tribulations and troubles. In leadership roles we also serve to help others as they endure their won tribulations and troubles. Learn from Joel's story of pain, questions, and hope. Let his forty images help you walk through the next forty days of your life. Take time for reflection (Why me and why this?), reaffirmation (What do you know for sure?), repentance (What's love got to do with it?), and revival (Have you found what you're looking for?).

https://www.amazon.com/Revived-Kickin-Survival-Revival-Wilderness/dp/1960024361

Interview with Joel de Jesus, Part 1 - Season 5, Episode 14

Thu, 05 Jun 2025 00:00:00 -0400

Author and business leader Joel de Jesus tells a story you don't want to miss. Listen to his testimony of difficulties, potential success, obedience to God, conflict, rejection, disaster, and hope. Yes, God places hope in the middle of life's storms. Leaders—and everyone in any role—often assume healing comes when all the external circumstances are resolved, when conflict concludes, when healing comes, when all the needs are met. But that is not biblical. And that is not how things happen. Joel de Jesus tells Chris Maxwell, Tracy Reynolds, and all those listening that becoming "revived" might occur during the journey through a wilderness. His book Revived and Kickin' (Survival to Revival: A Forty Day Journey Through the Wilderness) is the perfect material during today's seasons of uncertainty and disappointment and pain. Welcome his courage and endurance. Receive his hope. Your story isn't over yet. You are being revived during the journey.

https://www.amazon.com/Revived-Kickin-Survival-Revival-Wilderness/dp/1960024361

Interview with Randy Hill, Part 2 - Season 5, Episode 13

Thu, 29 May 2025 00:00:00 -0400

Chris and Tracy continue their conversation with Pastor Randy Hill. Randy served in production and business for many years, and he now continues working in pastoral ministry. Through his seasons of mourning and grieving, joy and pain in ministry, seeking God and obeying the Father, Randy knows about death and sadness while also knowing the miracles of God. His story is so needed in today's world of leadership. Hear his desire to follow Jesus. Even during pain, we can lead while following Jesus. In this episode, Randy emphasizes the importance of knowing why we are here. God has plans for each of us. We should learn what we are called and empowered to do. We are to "go after" that vocation—whatever it is—empowered by God. We are to serve as partners with the Holy Spirit. What can we do this week to help people encounter God? How can we help those around us smile? We are so often seeking to control our church services that we fail to allow time for God. As leaders, let us lead others to the altar. Believe God is at work in us and in those we lead. Welcome God's plan for each of us.

https://www.gtchurch.net/staff/pastor-randy-bonnie-hill/

https://www.facebook.com/jrandyhillministries

Interview with Randy Hill, Part 1 - Season 5, Episode 12

Thu, 22 May 2025 00:00:00 -0400

Randy Hill serves as a pastor, seeking to make a positive difference in the lives of other people. Randy also serves in denominational leadership. Through his years of pastoring, Randy has learned many lessons. Tracy and Chris enjoyed hearing Randy's story of growing up in church and seeing many miracles. Do we still believe in miracles? If so, why? If not, why? As a young child Randy traveled with his father who was leading revivals--his dad was also training Randy for ministry. Randy knew when he was young that the Lord had called him to preach. Even when he wasn't living as he should, he knew. Through the years he has learned many lessons of how to not do ministry. Like many people, he saw the hypocrisy. Like many people, he was looking for reasons to stay out of ministry. He worked for a ministry while trying to stay out of a preaching vocation. Through God's miracles and reminders, Randy said yes to the Lord. Listen to his reluctance and his obedience. Listen to his heart for God and people. Listen to the sadness of his wife passing away. Listen to hope amid the sadness. Learn what ministry can be like from Randy's perspective.

https://www.gtchurch.net/staff/pastor-randy-bonnie-hill/

https://www.facebook.com/jrandyhillministries

Interview with Jeff McCoy, Part 2 - Season 5, Episode 11

Thu, 15 May 2025 00:00:00 -0400

Tracy Reynolds and Chris Maxwell hope this second episode in their interview with Jeff McCoy continues guiding you through his journey from pain to healing. It is not just a few steps to success type of process. It is not just a learn-this-lesson-quickly-and-all-will-be-simple. No, our stories include conflict. They include terrible decisions. They include times of asking God questions we never thought we would ask Him. And, they can include healing and restoration. They can include community and redemption. They can move us into new seasons of deep, true, holy worship. Amid our wounds and our limps, let us make the choice to rejoice. Stories like Jeff’s remind us why we refuse to quit and why we do make that choice to rejoice.

Interview with Jeff McCoy, Part 1 - Season 5, Episode 10

Thu, 08 May 2025 00:00:00 -0400

Interview with Jeff McCoy, Part 1 - Season 5, Episode 10

This week and next week Pastor Chris and Pastor Tracy invite you to listen to a story of both deep sadness and true joy. As they engage in a conversation with their dear friend Jeff McCoy, they believe we all can learn important life lessons from his testimony. Jeff tells of his early years—life with God and family and friends and music. God and music have been, and continue to be, key parts of Jeff’s story. He also guides you through times when life was not so fun, so joyful, so clear. Hear his narrative and think about your own story. What has helped you know the truth of God’s love? What wounds have hindered you along the way? How have you responded to those scars? What lessons did you learn from them? Are there ways you have become closer to God after the storms? Jeff’s story might be the ideal story for you during this season of your life.

Interview with Living Hope Staff, Part 2 - Season 5, Episode 9

Thu, 01 May 2025 00:00:00 -0400

Welcome to the second episode of Chris and Tracy’s conversation with the amazing staff from Living Hope Church in Lenoir, NC. Pastor Keith Gilliam and his servant leaders invite you to listen in as they continue their dialogue is this installation that lasts a little longer than the normal weekly Next Step Leadership Podcasts. They discuss key topics related to leading a congregation together rather than apart, applying biblical principles in a church setting, what has worked well for them through the years, how God has helped them when situations were not simple, and how they continue living out the biblical calling in this hurried and busy world. No, church isn’t just the way it was years ago. No, people aren’t all just alike. But the biblical calling to make disciples is still the same. Churches like Living Hope and ministers like those who serve in this team offer hope during uncertain times. Listen to their love for God and for one another, and you’ll notice that their hope is real, it is living, and it is just what we all need as we lead.

https://www.livinghopelenoir.com/

Interview with Living Hope Staff, Part 1 - Season 5, Episode 8

Thu, 24 Apr 2025 00:00:00 -0400

Each one of the Next Step Leadership Podcasts for the last few years lasts only a little over twenty minutes. Tracy Reynolds and Chris Maxwell know listeners are in a hurry, so they try to provide important information in a brief segment of time. But today’s episode is the first in a two-part conversation with a church staff—and both chats will be about twice the length of time the podcasts normally last. Why? Not just doing something different. But to allow audiences to “listen in” as a church staff talks about how they’ve created a healthy church environment, how they work together and work together well, how they stay true to their biblical purpose, and what lessons they learn from each team player. Remember, this podcast is titled Next Step Leadership for a reason. Discussions like this help all of us find ways to be sure our next steps—whatever the size of our churches and businesses, however many paid or volunteer staff we work with, wherever we are in our expeditions—are our best steps. And we believe that is most likely to happen when we work together rather than alone. The Living Hope Staff and their lead pastor Keith Gilliam welcome you to hear the story of their honor of working together for God.

https://www.livinghopelenoir.com/

Interview with Michael Ainsworth, Part 2 - Season 5, Episode 7

Thu, 17 Apr 2025 00:00:00 -0400

In this episode of Next Step Leadership, Tracy Reynolds and Chris Maxwell continue their conversation with Pastor Michael Ainsworth. Michael has served in ministry for many years—pastoring local churches and leading in a variety of areas with the International Pentecostal Holiness Church. As you listen to this second conversation for the podcast, you will be able to hear his motives. Those goals and desires are just what is needed in a culture refusing to trust leaders. Pastor Ainsworth has shown that it is not the platform or the performance that make the difference. It is being like Jesus. It is serving like Jesus. It is pastoring like Jesus. It is leading like Jesus. Pastor Michael Ainsworth is making a difference. And he believes we can also.

https://www.nciphc.com

https://www.facebook.com/nc.conference.iphc

https://www.instagram.com/nciphc/

https://www.youtube.com/@ncciphc

Interview with Michael Ainsworth, Part 1 - Season 5, Episode 6

Thu, 10 Apr 2025 00:00:00 -0400

Chris and Tracy invite you to listen in—and to tell your friends to listen also—to their conversation with Pastor Michael Ainsworth. Michael’s story is one that brings a wonderful blend of information and inspiration. He is a true servant leader. Through his years of ministry, he has guided many people toward the love of God. You will be able to hear that love in Michael’s voice and through his story. You will be reminded of God’s love for each person—whatever their story, whatever their role, whatever their gifts, whatever their needs. Pastor Michael Ainsworth is not just a leader in his denomination. He is an example of how followers of Jesus can lead well in today’s culture.

https://www.nciphc.com

https://www.facebook.com/nc.conference.iphc

https://www.instagram.com/nciphc/

https://www.youtube.com/@ncciphc

Interview with Mary Rathbone & Christina Carter, Part 2 - Season 5, Episode 5

Thu, 03 Apr 2025 00:00:00 -0400

In this episode of Next Step Leadership, Tracy Reynolds and Chris Maxwell continue their conversation with Mary Rathbone and Christina Carter. In last week’s episode we heard of Christina looking for love in dangerous and damaging places. Hearing her story of mistakes made and family addiction, then a Savior’s love accepted, today’s leaders can learn more about the reality of modern culture. But Mary sets an example of the refusal to do nothing. She learned about the problems. She acted. Mary refused to miss opportunities to truly live the gospel story. Ask yourself how you can help. Ask yourself what you and those around you can do, should do, and must do. Don’t wait any longer. Let the love of Jesus motive us to follow His leadership—Moms Adopting Moms is one example for us. What will we do?

https://momsadoptingmoms.com

https://www.facebook.com/momsadoptingmoms/

https://www.instagram.com/momsadoptingmoms/

Interview with Mary Rathbone & Christina Carter, Part 1 - Season 5, Episode 4

Thu, 27 Mar 2025 00:00:00 -0400

Chris and Tracy know you will enjoy their conversation with Mary Rathbone and Christina Carter. Mary and Christina work for Moms Adopting Moms. They hope to offer ministry and care for moms and their children. The ministry sets an example of what leaders can do in today’s culture. Rather than just knowing about problems and needs, leaders take action. Mary felt drawn to adopt—even though she and her husband were accused of being too old. They went from having one six-year-old to five children six and under. Christina tells her story of addiction. Their stories will challenge you. Welcome the challenge. Foster care is not easy. But the needs are huge. What can be done? What should be done? What can you do to make a difference? Mary’s willingness toward foster care and adoption sets an example for each of us. How will we respond?

https://momsadoptingmoms.com

https://www.facebook.com/momsadoptingmoms/

https://www.instagram.com/momsadoptingmoms/

Interview with Jonathan Altman, Part 2 - Season 5, Episode 3

Thu, 20 Mar 2025 00:00:00 -0400

This is the second episode of Tracy and Chris interviewing Pastor Jonathan Altman. Pastor Jonathan has learned many lessons through his years of ministry. He offers wisdom, ideas, and stories. His heart of kindness will be heard by all those who listen. He loves reading, listening, learning, studying, and caring for people. Churches formerly had pastoral studies; now they have offices. That is one example of how today’s ministers forget the value of studying. What we do should come from who we are. Study and prayer are parts of our development. Jonathan brings a mixture of quality education and pastoral compassion. And speaking of people, it is vital that we seek to become the people God wants us to be and to also have the right people in our lives. We can serve together and not alone, especially as we learn to grieve through life’s struggles.

https://www.spphc.com/staff

Interview with Jonathan Altman, Part 1 - Season 5, Episode 2

Thu, 13 Mar 2025 00:00:00 -0400

In this week’s episode of Next Step Leadership, Chris and Tracy loved their conversation with Pastor Jonathan Altman. You will love it also. Take time to listen in. Think of what parts of Jonathan’s story remind you about your story and the lives of people you know. What thoughts come to your mind as you hear about his parents’ divorce? About him drifting away from God? About dealing with sadness and grief? About surrendering his heart to God? About his calling into the ministry, his time of reluctance to obey that invitation to ministry and his eventual willingness to say yes? About his heart for missions and his obedience into local church leadership? About working through his deep wounds and feeling alone? As you process his story, think about where God has guided you in the past and where He is taking you in the present. Remember God’s love and refuse to attempt to endure life alone.

https://www.spphc.com/staff

Chris Maxwell & Tracy Reynolds - Season 5 Kick-Off! - Season 5, Episode 1

Thu, 06 Mar 2025 00:00:00 -0500

Season five is now beginning. Four seasons finished? That is hard to believe. This collection of podcasts includes many episodes of Next Step Leadership. And a fifth season will bring more. Take time to think about what you have learned from Tracy and Chris through their conversations and their interviews with a wide variety of leaders. If you could go back and pick your favorite interviews and episodes, what would you select? Why? What are you doing differently now because of what you heard? Chris and Tracy appreciate you listening and learning, and also you telling others about the podcast. Listen to this episode. Go back and hear some of the old ones again. Or listen for the first time to those you forgot to hear. Learn a few lessons, hear a few stories, take a few notes, and read a few books. Thanks for being a part of the Next Step Leadership family.

https://chrismaxwell.me/

https://www.ctracyreynolds.com/

Interview with Jared Anderson & Kelly Wilkerson, Part 2 - Season 4, Episode 53

Thu, 27 Feb 2025 00:00:00 -0500

This week’s Next Step Leadership Podcast includes the second conversation Chris and Tracy enjoy with Jared Anderson and Kelly Wilkerson. Think of the lessons they have learned through years of ministry. Write a list of how you can serve wherever God guides you. Also take time to understand the value and importance of worship for today’s culture. What thoughts from Jared and Kelly speak to you personally? How can you apply their wisdom? What can you help bring to today’s church as it relates to ministry, worship, discipleship, and global outreach? How can we live in the now and the not yet? How can we live in authenticity, not relying on the past or waiting for the future? How can we welcome heaven to earth? How can we be sure our motives are to glorify God? Remember you are invited to worship God and to bring your love for Him to the world. Enjoy your daily bread. Celebrate communion with your Creator.

https://www.1121worship.com/

Interview with Jared Anderson & Kelly Wilkerson, Part 1 - Season 4, Episode 52

Thu, 20 Feb 2025 00:00:00 -0500

Tracy and Chris were honored to have a conversation with Kelly Wilkerson and Jared Anderson. In this episode you will learn from the stories of Kelly and Jared. They both have made a positive difference in today’s culture. Listening to their history and how they have gone to where they are now, audiences can remember portions of their own stories. God guides each personal differently, but we can all learn from one another. Decades of experience in worship, in ministry, and now serving at 11:21 Worship give Kelly and Jared many years of knowledge. A worship ministry of World Challenge, 11:21 Worship offers a wonderful opportunity to see how God is changing the world. Do not let yourself get in the way. Trust God. Believe He knows what He is calling you to do. Realize what tends to block you. Move forward and say yes to God's invitation.

https://www.1121worship.com/

Interview with Kristi Cain, Part 2 - Season 4, Episode 51

Thu, 13 Feb 2025 00:00:00 -0500

In this episode of Next Step Leadership, Chris and Tracy continue their conversation with their friend Kristi Cain. She talks about the importance of books in spiritual discipleship and relational development. As you listen, think about what books have impacted your life. What did you learn from those books? How did those books challenge you, educate you, inspire you, transform you? What are some books you started reading but never finished? Should you dive back into those books? Put together a list of books from the past which made your life better and a list of books you should read this year. Make the decision to welcome a lifetime of learning as you lead.

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/bring-me-my-books/id1722072162

Interview with Kristi Cain, Part 1 - Season 4, Episode 50

Thu, 06 Feb 2025 00:00:00 -0500

Tracy and Chris interviewed Jamie Cain for a previous podcast episode. This week and next week, they offer their fantastic conversations with Jamie’s wife, Kristi Cain. As you hear her story of life and spiritual formation, think about your narrative. Let her journey remind you of key parts of your own adventure. Kristi has been involved academically, pastorally, and in writing and editing. She, Tracy, and Chris have all served in spiritual life at Emmanuel University. Kristi offers positive stories from church upbringing, raising children, personal growth, and finding hope in a world of questions and wounds. She learned much from her parents and from others who have mentored her. Take time to gain truth from Kristi’s story.

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/bring-me-my-books/id1722072162

Interview with Phil Cooke, Part 2 - Season 4, Episode 49

Thu, 30 Jan 2025 00:00:00 -0500

Chris Maxwell and Tracy Reynolds continue their conversation with filmmaker, media consultant, speaker, and author Phil Cooke. In this episode, they continue focusing on Cooke’s new book, Church on Trial: How to Protect Your Congregation, Mission, and Reputation During a Crisis. Listen to Phil’s main points and his stories. This is not a simple, easy, humorous novel. He writes from experience about the word most people do not enjoy—crisis. That word “crisis” is not on a leader’s list of goals and dreams. But it can become a reality for all leaders. And, all leaders should learn from Phil to protect a congregation, a mission, and a reputation during difficult circumstances.

https://www.philcooke.com/

Interview with Phil Cooke, Part 1 - Season 4, Episode 48

Thu, 23 Jan 2025 00:00:00 -0500

Tracy and Chris enjoyed having Phil Cooke in two previous episodes of Next Step Leadership, so they invited him back for more conversations. Phil continues helping churches, ministries, and businesses gain a better grasp of marketing and care in today’s culture. As a filmmaker, media consultant, speaker, and author, Phil brings a vast array of research to guide leaders in planning and application. Phil’s latest book—Church on Trial: How to Protect Your Congregation, Mission, and Reputation During a Crisis—is the perfect fit for this podcast. Listen and learn from Phil’s honesty. Read his book. Apply the guidelines, putting yourself and your team in safer places.

https://www.philcooke.com/

Interview with Drew Dyck, Part 2 - Season 4, Episode 47

Thu, 16 Jan 2025 00:00:00 -0500

Chris Maxwell and Tracy Reynolds continue their conversation with author and editor Drew Dyck. In this episode, Drew guides the audience through the key points in his book Just Show Up. We often forget the value of that, don't we? We are so success driven, so numbers focused, so outcome addicted. We grade and rank ourselves as leaders based on cultural stat sheets. But Drew offers us a better view. What if our task is to show up, to be, to live, to endure? What if our presence in ministries and in leadership roles matters more than anything our culture would consider as ways to improve our ranking? Hear Drew's stories and his laughter and his guidance. Take notes. Set healthy goals for your own life. And, as you are, remember to just show up.

https://www.drewdyck.com/

Interview with Drew Dyck, Part 1 - Season 4, Episode 46

Thu, 09 Jan 2025 00:00:00 -0500

Drew Dyck is a wise, creative writer with a wonderful sense of humor. His books and stories reveal those gifts. Tracy and Chris want you to get to know Drew. If you haven't read his books, get your copies and read them. If you haven't heard his stories, please listen to the episodes this week and next week. Drew's story is one many people can relate to. His narratives about church and faith, doubt and disappointments, reading and writing, learning and growing. Drew serves as an acquisitions editor, author, and speaker. He has written a variety of books, including Your Future Self Will Thank You, Yawning at Tigers, Generation X Christian, and his latest, Just Show Up. The Next Step Leaders podcast audience will love this episode. Do not wait and listen later. Hear words of wisdom from Drew Dyck.

https://www.drewdyck.com/

Interview with Steve Amerson, Part 2 - Season 4, Episode 45

Thu, 02 Jan 2025 00:00:00 -0500

In their second conversation with Steve Amerson, Tracy and Chris talk and listen and laugh again. While many people hear to the news reports and the negativity in today's politics, Steve has gotten to know personally the leaders at Capitol Hill. He listens to their stories. He prays for them and with them. He offers encouragement to them. Television and movie tracks aren't the only parts of his story. Steve has been leading worship twice each month for the last ten years to those in the United States government. His talent is amazing. His heart brings hope. Think about how he is connecting with key leaders and young influencers. What can we learn from Steve? How can we obey God when He takes us places we do not expect to go? How can we be servant leaders influencing today's culture? Isn't impacting people much better than complaining? Isn't it best to use our talents and interests to connect with people who are waiting for someone who will listen to them and pray for them? Let Steve lead us as Christ followers.

Interview with Steve Amerson, Part 1 - Season 4, Episode 44

Thu, 26 Dec 2024 00:00:00 -0500

Chris and Tracy are glad you could join them in another episode of Next Step Leadership. In this conversation, they talk with Steve Amerson—a world class vocalist. Steve has been involved in various ministries and music around the world. Twice monthly he travels to Washington DC to lead Word on the Hill, a spiritual encounter for leaders in the United States Government. Steve grew up on a pastor's home and his mother led the children's choirs. He learned many lessons spiritually, musically, and pastorally through his parents and their years of service. He continued his life of learning as he began leading others musically. From his years of education and ministry, and many seasons of letting God guide his decisions, Steve gladly tells his story of being a Christ follower. Listen to his story of singing in huge concerts and conventions. Hear how God continues placing Steve with worldwide decision makers. Think of ways God is working in and through your talent, just as He is singing songs of grace through Steve.

www.thewordonthehill.org

Interview with Tez Brooks, Part 2 - Season 4, Episode 43

Thu, 19 Dec 2024 00:00:00 -0500

This is the second conversation Tracy and Chris have with Tez Brooks. Tez is an author, life coach, missionary, filmmaker, and servant leader. His story and his wisdom are a perfect fit for Next Step Leadership. Tez brings a new perspective of the word “missionary.” His story offers the podcast’s audience a fresh view of mission work and ministry. For those who feel unqualified, God does His work through various skill sets. The needs are large. The key is willingness to serve. Now as the National Communications Director for a ministry in Australia and through his writing, Tez offers his wisdom to people around the world. His latest book, Adult-o-Nomics: How To Nail It On Your Own, is a collection of 500 short quotes, scriptures, and suggestions for those leaving home for the first time. The book’s insight is ideal for today’s audiences.

https://tezbrooks.com/

Interview with Tez Brooks, Part 1 - Season 4, Episode 42

Thu, 12 Dec 2024 00:00:00 -0500

Tracy and Chris interview Tez Brooks in this episode of Next Step Leadership. Tez brings a unique, but fitting perspective for the podcast’s audience. An author, life coach, missionary, filmmaker, and servant leader, Tez tells his story. He knows about family, divorce, raising children by himself while in ministry, departing for a season from vocational ministry, working in law enforcement, and adjusting to drastic life changes. He’s done a wonderful job letting God guide him through a variety of endeavors, while developing many skills in the process. Tez remarried and began serving with Cru and the Jesus Film Project. Through his leadership, communication, and writing, Tez has influenced many lives. Learn from his wisdom, his compassion, and his willingness to develop new skills. Let his story bring positive changes into your own life. Find ways God can tell His story through you, just as He has through Tez.

https://tezbrooks.com/

Interview with Sandra Glahn, Part 2 - Season 4, Episode 41

Thu, 05 Dec 2024 00:00:00 -0500

In this episode of Next Step Leadership, Sandra Glahn talks again to Tracy and Chris. Her knowledge offers deep, biblical, and practical insight for this podcast’s audience. As a Professor of Media Arts and Worship at Dallas Theological Seminary and as an author or editor of over twenty books including Nobody's Mother, she brings a perspective today’s church leaders need to hear. Sandra is a frequent podcast guest and retreat speaker whose areas of expertise include Artemis, Ephesus, Bible books and backgrounds, women’s history and issues, the history of ideas about gender, sexuality and ethics, and writing for publication. Dr. Glahn and her husband, Gary, have been married for more than forty years, and they have a married adult daughter, who joined their family through adoption. She is honest about her beliefs and her disappointments. Female leaders need to listen to her thoughts. All leaders need to gain from her insight. Learn from her wisdom on mentoring, on giving away power instead of holding on to power, on shepherding, on preaching as teams, and on how there is no room for pride among today’s leaders.

https://sandraglahn.com/

Interview with Sandra Glahn, Part 1 - Season 4, Episode 40

Thu, 28 Nov 2024 00:00:00 -0500

Chris Maxwell has known author and professor Sandra Glahn through their connection with the Evangelical Press Association. Tracy Reynolds joins Chris in inviting Sandra to you. Sandra Glahn, PhD, is a journalist and the author, coauthor, or editor of more than twenty books, including Vindicating the Vixens, Earl Grey with Ephesians, Sanctified Sexuality (coeditor), and Sexual Intimacy in Marriage (coauthor). She serves as Professor of Media Arts and Worship at Dallas Theological Seminary. Her latest book, Nobody's Mother, lays a biblical foundation for men and women serving side by side in the church. During these days of disappointment and division, listen to Dr Glahn’s story. Life doesn’t always go the way we wish. Pain is a part of each person’s story. Her wisdom and compassion are needed for today’s leaders who continue learning to trust God whatever the season.

https://sandraglahn.com/

Interview with Karl Vaters, Part 2 - Season 4, Episode 39

Thu, 21 Nov 2024 00:00:00 -0500

In this episode of Next Step Leadership, Tracy and Chris continue their conversation with Karl Vaters. Karl is a minister and author who is getting much attention these days. He speaks up for small churches—the often forgotten culture. He offers wisdom and encouragement to pastors who struggle to get churches to follow every new trend and quickly become larger congregations. He wrote about the key points in his latest book De-sizing the Church: How Church Growth Became a Science, Then an Obsession, and What's Next. Pastors, lay leaders, ministry students, and all followers of Christ can gain a better grasp of Pastor Karl’s teachings during this week’s podcast. His words need to be heard. His wisdom needs to be applied. His humility needs to be followed. Listen and learn. Take the right next steps suggested from a leader like Karl Vaters.

https://karlvaters.com/

Interview with Karl Vaters - Part 1 - Season 4, Episode 38

Thu, 14 Nov 2024 00:00:00 -0500

Pastor and author Karl Vaters is a key voice for today’s spiritual leaders. In a culture highlighting big churches and impressive stats, many ministers feel like failures. But what about tiny churches in small towns? What about the average size church which chooses to send ministers out instead of holding more people inside and hiring a huge staff? Too many great pastors are leaving ministry because of the pressure toward cultural success. Pastor Vaters brings deep knowledge from years of studying and pastoring. He learned how to define success in ministry without numbers attached to it. Through Karl’s speaking and writing, he offers better views toward church health. Defining church success with numbers is relatively new in church history. American church development has historically moved from stages of revival to management to activism. During the present activism season, Karl states the things which matter most. His book—De-sizing the Church: How Church Growth Became a Science, Then an Obsession, and What's Next—provides a healthy perspective for why the church is truly created. His conversation with Chris and Tracy is just what is needed during these days.

https://karlvaters.com/

Interview with Justin Blankenship, Part 2 - Season 4, Episode 37

Thu, 07 Nov 2024 00:00:00 -0500

This episode of Next Step Leadership offers the second part of the conversation Tracy and Chris had with Pastor Justin Blankenship. As Senior Pastor of Landmark Church in Purcell, OK, Justin discusses how he serves in ministry during these difficult days. Many pastors are leaving their profession. Some are even questioning or departing the faith. Followers of Christ are choosing to abandon church. Stories like Justin’s are just the type of optimism, honesty, and hopeful narratives today’s audiences need to hear. Pastor Justin knows the hurts and wounds of church and ministry. But he serves with the heart of Jesus. Hear that heart through his words. Decide how you can also serve like Jesus in these days of division.

https://www.facebook.com/p/Justin-Blankenship-100095258405089/
https://landmarkchurchok.com/our-team-v2/

Interview with Justin Blankenship, Part 1 - Season 4, Episode 36

Thu, 31 Oct 2024 00:00:00 -0400

Pastor Justin Blankenship is an ideal guest for Chris and Tracy’s Next Step Leadership podcast. Justin serves as Senior Pastor of Landmark Church in Purcell, Oklahoma. He also is a preacher’s son. He knows all the stories of churches and movements and trends and pastors’ families. He also knows about letting family be a priority, keeping goals in place, and truly caring for others. Through his deep love for God and people, Justin sets a wonderful example for the type of clergy desperately needed in today’s society. Listen to the conversation. Hear Justin’s heart. Learn from his gentle wisdom. Think of what you can gain and apply from his story.

https://www.facebook.com/p/Justin-Blankenship-100095258405089/
https://landmarkchurchok.com/our-team-v2/

Interview with Michelle Anthony, Part 2 - Season 4, Episode 35

Thu, 24 Oct 2024 00:00:00 -0400

Tracy Reynolds and Chris Maxwell invite you to “listen in” to this episode of their conversation with author, teacher, minister, and leader Dr. Michelle Anthony. As she started last week, Michelle continues offering wisdom for reaching and discipling families in this confused, sad, unsure culture. Pay close attention as she brings great insight for practical and doable solutions. Pick up and read copies of her books Spiritual Parenting: An Awakening for Today's Families and 7 Family Ministry Essentials: A Strategy for Culture Change in Children's and Student Ministries. Learn as a leader, as a parent, as a servant, as a follower of Jesus. What has God called you to do? How can you influence the world in a positive way? In what ways can her steps guide your journey of next step leadership?

https://michelleanthony.org/about/

Interview with Michelle Anthony, Part 1 - Season 4, Episode 34

Thu, 17 Oct 2024 00:00:00 -0400

Dr. Michelle Anthony, the Executive Pastor of Families at New Life Church and Dean of Familymin Academy, is this week’s guest in Next Step Leadership. Michelle is an author, speaker, mentor, and humble leader who is making a positive difference in today’s society. Familymin Academy is a community of people who are passionate about ministry to the diverse needs of today’s families. She’s the author of books for families, including Spiritual Parenting: An Awakening for Today's Families and 7 Family Ministry Essentials: A Strategy for Culture Change in Children's and Student Ministries. In this episode, Michelle tells her story about how God met her and guided her to where she is today. Tracy and Chris encourage you to listen to her comments and think about your own story. How is God meeting you where you are and preparing you for the future? Who is helping lead you in that direction? Who are you leading as you follow Jesus?

https://michelleanthony.org/about/

Interview with Lee Mason, Part 2 - Season 4, Episode 33

Thu, 10 Oct 2024 00:00:00 -0400

In this episode of Next Step Leadership Podcast, Tracy Reynolds and Chris Maxwell continue their conversation with Pastor Lee Mason. In 2007, Lee and his wife Lisa began Classic City Church, a non-denominational church serving the city of Athens, GA. Lee talks about his book, Ten Historical Facts About Jesus: What Historians Are Certain of Concerning History’s Most Compelling Figure. His ten points are valuable for today’s leaders to know:

Jesus was a real historic figure.
Jesus was known as a miracle worker in a manner unique to anyone else.
Jesus was crucified in Jerusalem.
Jesus was buried in the tomb of Joseph in Arimathea.
Jesus’ tomb was found empty by a group of women.
Numerous people claimed to have seen Jesus alive after His death.
Jewish monotheists began to worship Jesus as God.
A resounding Messianic movement emerged after Jesus’ death.
Gentiles renounced their pagan ancestry to worship Jesus.
Today Jesus is the most significant figure in history.

Learn from these lessons. Understand the importance of Christ’s death and resurrection, and why we believe what we claim to believe. The historical figure of Jesus can lead through us as we make the next steps as His followers.

https://www.classiccity.org/staff

Interview with Lee Mason, Part 1 - Season 4, Episode 32

Thu, 03 Oct 2024 00:00:00 -0400

Through the history of Next Step Leadership podcast, Tracy and Chris have enjoyed their conversations with a variety of guests. This week’s episode is another exciting chat. Pastor Lee Mason, Senior Pastor of Classic City Church in Athens, GA, tells his story of what brought him to his beliefs and his ministry. The narrative reminds audiences the various ways God guides us through life’s journeys. Lee learned much through each season of life, spiritual development, and church roles. He offers great insight on ministry and the proof of biblical beliefs. Listen to his story. Learn from his wisdom.

https://www.classiccity.org/staff/lee-mason

Chris Maxwell "Things We've Handed Down" NEW BOOK Interview! - Season 4, Episode 31

Thu, 26 Sep 2024 00:00:00 -0400

Chris Maxwell’s 12th book comes out October 1st. Each of the twelve chapters in the book, “Things We’ve Handed Down: Twelve Letters I Leave for You,” is written as a letter to a reader. The chapter titles are all book titles from books which have impacted Chris’ life. He hopes to hand down to the next generation key life principles that he learned from the books. “Disappointment with God” by former Next Step guest Philip Yancey, “Wounds Are Where Light Enters” by Walter Wangerin Jr., “The Wounded Healer” by Henri J.M. Nouwen, “Life is Mostly Edges” by Calvin Miller, “Surprised by Joy” by C. S. Lewis, and “A Long Obedience in the Same Direction” by Eugene Peterson are just some of the chapters in this book.

As a leader and a learner, what books have impacted your life? What lessons have you learned that you can “hand down” to others? How have disappointments and wounds brought you closer to God instead of farther from Him? How can we lead better by displaying love, acceptance, and forgiveness? Listen to the conversation. Pick up a copy of “Things We’ve Handed Down” and read it. Get copies for those you lead. Be sure you receive what’s handed down to you and that you hand down God’s love to others.

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Interview with Bert Synan, Part 2 - Season 4, Episodes 30

Thu, 19 Sep 2024 00:00:00 -0400

This episode of Next Step Leadership is the second conversation Tracy and Chris have with Pastor Bert Synan. Bert’s honesty is so fitting for the overall message of this podcast’s theme. Our next steps won’t always be the best steps unless we know what our Creator is calling us to do and the true reason we are to do that. How has Bert developed relationships in his community? How is he telling Bible stories to those who not know the stories—even in a small town of the Bible-belt? Why do many church leaders limit their ministry to Sunday services or church events? How has officiating football games helped Bert show God’s love? In a post-Christian culture, how can serving bi-vocationally be a huge advantage? Find something else to do unrelated to a church function. Study your culture. Learn a new appreciation for why you really do what you do.

https://www.sandycrosschurch.org/staff

Interview with Bert Synan, Part 1 - Season 4, Episode 29

Thu, 12 Sep 2024 00:00:00 -0400

Tracy Reynolds and Chris Maxwell hope to provide you a variety of voices and perspectives on the Next Step Leadership podcast. In this episode, they are honored to let you listen to their conversation with Pastor Bert Synan. Bert has many stories to tell—stories each leader can learn from. His early years of growing up in church, experiencing Jesus himself, learning Scripture, and developing healthy relationships. Decades of pastoring. Offering pastoral care in a community. Adjusting to changes. Serving as a bi-vocational pastor. Building relationships through his other jobs. Moving from superficial performance toward a long obedience. Investing his life in true care for others. How has driving a school bus helped Bert reach people? How has Bert endured his wife’s suicide? What lessons can others learn from Bert and his story?

https://www.sandycrosschurch.org/staff

Interview with Greg Hearn, Part 2 - Season 4, Episode 28

Thu, 05 Sep 2024 00:00:00 -0400

In their second Next Step Leadership conversation with Greg Hearn, Chris and Tracy appreciate his desire to make a positive difference in today’s difficult culture. Greg’s talents in finances, organization, and leadership have served in ministry areas too often forgotten. As president of Emmanuel University, Greg believes in the institution’s true values. Offering a biblical worldview in this season so distant from that agenda, President Hearn believes we can start where someone is and then take them farther along. He wants to emphasize Christianity is not a list of rules, but a relationship that lasts eternity. Like Greg’s story, your story is unique and important. Greg doesn’t like the spotlight. He’s enjoyed serving behind the scenes. But this is where God has now placed him. He serves in leadership as having people around who are better at doing what they do. A leader is no more important than others who serve. Learn from Greg. Let his perspective become yours.

https://eu.edu/senior-leadership-team/

Interview with Greg Hearn, Part 1 - Season 4, Episode 27

Thu, 29 Aug 2024 00:00:00 -0400

Greg Hearn now serves as President at Emmanuel University. Like many of today’s leaders and their present positions, Greg did not expect to be in this role. But God places His servants where they need to be. Tracy and Chris enjoyed hearing Greg’s story about life, family, growing up as a minister’s kid, education, and where God has now assigned him. In the last two episodes, Landon Rowell reminded us the importance of serving while learning where we can serve best. In Greg Hearn’s two episodes, listeners can learn how God moves people to key leadership positions when they’re not seeking it. Greg agreed to say yes to what was best. He helps guide those he leads as how to be faithful in what God has called them to do. Greg has learned that much of his culture’s upbringing missed the biblical beauty of true relationships with Jesus. Greg wants to live that now, and help people understand the wide variety of opportunities for those wanting to make a difference.

https://eu.edu/senior-leadership-team/

Interview with Landon Rowell, Part 2 - Season 4, Episode 26

Thu, 22 Aug 2024 00:00:00 -0400

In this episode of Next Step Leadership Podcast, Chris and Tracy continue their conversation with Landon Rowell. Landon’s story fits many young leaders. Called to ministry in some way, but not totally sure of what that really means. Sensing a deep desire to make a difference in God’s kingdom, Landon took the right classes and began working in new areas. He has continued learning and adjusting. He has kept a kind and serving heart. He works hard, finishes tasks, and maintains a healthy attitude as he serves. Days don’t need to be wasted. Study. Learn. Listen. Laugh. Experiment. Work hard. Stay humble. Ministry has many ways of serving. Use your gifts and areas of interest. God can guide you right where you are needed.

The Empty Chair Video: https://youtu.be/QfSpT-vcQdo?si=1_ymVUsrHdYzyVw7

https://jaggedrockmedia.com/about/

Interview with Landon Rowell, Part 1 - Season 4, Episode 25

Thu, 15 Aug 2024 00:00:00 -0400

Landon Rowell wasn’t on the original schedule to be interviewed by Chris and Tracy. Landon was serving and helping. He was setting everything up for the podcast. What Landon didn’t know was that his story needed to be heard. So instead of just letting him stay “behind the scenes,” Chris and Tracy wanted his story heard. They believe the younger generation of leaders brings a variety of perspectives and talents. They remember Landon’s days as a college student when he was learning not just academic information, but learning about himself. Listen to his story. Learn about yourself. Think about how you are also still learning where you fit, what you’re good at doing, what you’re grieving, and what you can do to shape the future. Not all routes are straight and simple. Sharp turns and new streets are a part of life. Continue serving and helping. Even when you’re not on the screen’s agenda, do your part. During times of hurt and uncertainty, do your part.

The Empty Chair Video: https://youtu.be/QfSpT-vcQdo?si=1_ymVUsrHdYzyVw7

https://jaggedrockmedia.com/about/

Interview with Charles Powell, Part 2 - Season 4, Episode 24

Thu, 08 Aug 2024 00:00:00 -0400

In this episode of Next Step Leadership, Tracy and Chris continue their conversation with Charles Powell. It’s a deep story about life—about a life of wounds and braces and pain. Today’s leaders can only lead correctly when first applying the importance of self-care and deep healing. Dangerous Skills: A Memoir of the Me You Never Knew is the new book Charles has written. On its pages, he reveals years of questions, of conflict, of near death experiences, of tension, and of the search to know God’s plan. Charles could have given up. But he did not. He has endured. And now he invests his energy in helping other people be rescued and find ways to develop their own skills. How can you apply the hopes Charles mentions about finding ways to help people come, learn, grow, and go? How can you have the right friends beside you who will guide you? Who is beside you? How can they have a crucial vote in your life? Your memoir is still being written.

https://jaggedrockmedia.com/about/

Dangerous Skills Podcast - https://jaggedrockmedia.podbean.com

Not In My Town book - https://www.amazon.com/Not-My-Town-Trafficking-Modern-Day/dp/1596693010

Interview with Charles Powell, Part 1 - Season 4, Episode 23

Thu, 01 Aug 2024 00:00:00 -0400

Charles Powell of LifeSprings and Jagged Rock Media is today’s guest in Next Step Leadership. Chris Maxwell and Tracy Reynolds have known Charles many years and wanted their podcast’s audience to hear his story. Through his work in security, rescuing people from human trafficking, studio production, and writing, Charles helps leaders become better aware of their personal formation. As you listen to his story, hear what Charles said about his upcoming book which reveals deep hurt from his past. The braces may have been removed from his legs, but not from his heart. How do your past wounds influence you? How do those scars impact your behavior, your thoughts, and your relationships? Write down what you learned from the story Charles tells. Include steps you should take to move toward healing. The braces on our legs from the past can still impact how we take steps in life. Instead of covering up our deep wounds, we can identify our masks, know God deeply, and find true healing.

https://jaggedrockmedia.com/about/

Dangerous Skills Podcast - https://jaggedrockmedia.podbean.com

Not In My Town book - https://www.amazon.com/Not-My-Town-Trafficking-Modern-Day/dp/1596693010

Next Step, Best Steps - Chris Maxwell & Tracy Reynolds-Season 4, Episode 22

Thu, 25 Jul 2024 00:00:00 -0400

Chris Maxwell and Tracy Reynolds usually have guests on their weekly podcast Next Step Leadership. Some weeks, like this one, the conversation includes only Chris and Tracy. These two men have known each other for almost two decades. They’ve worked together, served together, and led together. They continue hoping to learn together. Listen as they offer their latest thoughts on serving and leading in today’s uncertain culture. Where are you now? Where are you going in the future? Who is traveling with you? What can you do to reach the goals God has given you? How can you be sure to take consistent steps, and the correct steps, in this season of your life? What are you best at doing? Why are you doing what you’re doing? What are you regularly doing that you should give up? Are you making a difference? Who are you allowing to help you evaluate your life? How do your jobs bring stress? Sit across the table with the right people who will help lead you as you ask those questions and as you lead others.

https://chrismaxwell.me/
https://www.ctracyreynolds.com/

Interview with Chris Green, Part 2 - Season 4, Episode 21

Thu, 18 Jul 2024 00:00:00 -0400

Dr. Chris Green continues as this week’s guest on Next Step Leadership. He again invites listeners to come to the table. Merging the past of Christ’s life and death, and the future life with Christ, he brings the table to our present stories. Through his writing and teaching and arts, Dr. Green provides new thoughts to his tradition. Let his story invite you to a deeper understanding of God’s artwork. Allow his words of scholarly spirituality be practical, real, and valuable. Communication is something machines do. People commune with each other. Refuse to see God as the mechanic. Let God be your artist; let God be your guide. Undo what has held us back in unhealthy ways. Grasp a greater truth of valuable tradition. Write a list of points from his thoughts. Plan to apply what you have learned.

https://www.cewgreen.com/

Interview with Chris Green, Part 1 - Season 4, Episode 20

Thu, 11 Jul 2024 00:00:00 -0400

Author, clergy, and scholar Chris Green is this week’s guest on Next Step Leadership. Through Dr. Green’s years of ministry in the church, academic, and literature sides of our world, he has learned many lessons of leadership. He thinks deeply and connects with many populations. In this first episode with Tracy and Chris, Dr. Green tells his story of growing up in a church environment. He talks about his calling. He talks about his questions. He talks about lessons learned and wounds being healed. He talks about theology. Listen to his story. Think about his scholarship. What does the Lord’s Supper mean to you? How is Communion a center part of the story? What parts of his narrative relate to you? What can you learn from his preaching, pastoring, and tradition? Receive wisdom from his brilliance and his regular communion with God.

https://www.cewgreen.com/

Friendships in Leadership - Chris Maxwell & Tracy Reynolds - Season 4, Episode 19

Thu, 04 Jul 2024 00:00:00 -0400

Chris and Tracy usually interview guests. Through their episodes, they have enjoyed conversations with a variety of pastors, authors, leaders, professors, and friends. The importance of that last role—friends—is the emphasis Tracy and Chris bring to their audience in this podcast. They have known each other for almost two decades. They have worked together. They have faced storms, uncertainty, vulnerability, and changes. They have chosen to spend time together—in person, through texts, with meals, and in large groups. They have welcomed business meetings and friendship meetings. They have designed a healthy atmosphere. What is their hope? They desire those listening will choose to work hard to develop healthy, long-term relationships. While pains from past relationships can cause initial reluctance to become close friends with others, Tracy and Chris dare today’s leaders to seek help regarding those hurts while intentionally building healthy friendships. How are you doing with that? What should you do about it? Who should be beside you in this journey of life?
https://chrismaxwell.me/
https://www.ctracyreynolds.com/

Interview with John R. Miles, Part 2 - Season 4, Episode 18

Thu, 27 Jun 2024 00:00:00 -0400

In this episode of Next Step Leadership Podcast, Tracy Reynolds and Chris Maxwell continue their chat with John R. Miles. Author of the book and host of the podcast, Passion Struck, John knows much about when life faces change. He knows about uncertainty and redirection. He also knows about dreaming big and enduring hopes. His podcast brings many successful guests, each with a unique story and a mix of ideas. As he talks to Tracy and Chris, John tells how he has worked through setbacks and found ways to truly matter in life. John gives his definition for passion, describing the difference between purpose and passion. What is your why? What is the problem you hope to solve in your life and career? He believes the passion is that which motives and inspire you to do the why. He offers advice on overcoming obstacles and knowing true success as winning in your battle with yourself. Listen and ask yourself about your passion and purpose, about how behaviors influence our lives, and about what God wants you to learn from this conversation.

https://johnrmiles.com/

Interview with John R. Miles, Part 1 - Season 4, Episode 17

Thu, 20 Jun 2024 00:00:00 -0400

Chris and Tracy continue enjoying helpful conversations with their guests in Next Step Leadership. Each podcast brings new thoughts and ideas. In this episode, they talk with John R. Miles. John tells his story—an interesting and diverse career from serving in the military, national security, management consultant, leading cyber security practice, private equity, and to his present career. John hopes to help people transform their lives. Through writing and leading, he is trying to help those who are thinking and feeling the way he previously thought and felt. His book is titled Passion Struck, and his podcast by that name is one of the top podcasts for today’s listeners. John hopes people hear the stories of success while realizing what he has leaned. Success isn’t just determined by wealth and job titles. He had many positions and possessions most people crave, but he knew there was more. Listen to his story and learn what matters most.

https://johnrmiles.com/

Interview with Dr. Jen Bennett, Part 2 - Season 4, Episode 16

Thu, 13 Jun 2024 00:00:00 -0400

In their second conversation with author and professor Dr. Jen Bennet, Tracy and Chris believe all listeners will value greatly from her wisdom. Her years of serving in the academic world, her great advice on online ministry and marketing, her willingness to move geographically and accept change, and her battle with their house burning down are all narratives today's leaders need to here. Each change was difficult. But important. Each transition brought challenges. But also lessons.

Readers often forget the great work God can do through our seasons of pain and questions. Are you in that season now? Are you receiving God’s peace even when so much seems to be going wrong?

Listen to Jen. Women in ministry need to hear from her. All who face uncertainty need to hear from her. Every leader hoping to lead like Christ needs to learn from her. Her story and her areas of expertise bring the ideal information for us all.

https://drjenbennett.com/

Interview with Dr. Jen Bennett, Part 1 - Season 4, Episode 15

Thu, 06 Jun 2024 00:00:00 -0400

Dr. Jen Bennett is this week's guest on Next Step Leadership Podcast. Tracy and Chris are excited for you to hear her wisdom.

As an educator, writer, and speaker, Jen never imagined herself doing the work God has her doing. She's continued education and ministry, while serving business leaders for their online presence.

Her book Be Worth Following and her podcast She Impacts Culture are perfect for these seasons of pressure and uncertainty. They offer guidelines in the areas of marketing and value.

Jen believes work was not designed to be miserable. She contends joy and hope are key parts for entrepreneurs and business leaders. To develop successful online presence, people must first gain a better grasp of who they are. Her book provides key elements of online audiences and overall goals.

Jen voices guidance on credibility and curiosity. She instructs leaders to be credible before trying to be influential.

Become skilled in your areas. Appropriate curiosity can lead to influence which leads to leadership. Ask questions. Seek answers. And be ready to become a leader worth following.

https://drjenbennett.com/

Interview with Ann Byle, Part 2 - Season 4, Episode 14

Thu, 30 May 2024 00:00:00 -0400

In this episode of Next Step Leadership, Tracy Reynolds and Chris Maxwell continue their conversation with author Ann Byle. Last week’s podcast caused listeners to smile as they thought about how a flock of hens can offer wisdom for today’s leaders. Ann continues this week by giving ideas from her years of experience and her latest book, Chicken Scratch: Lessons on Living Creatively from a Flock of Hens. Leaders need to communicate well in a variety of ways. As Ann offers funny but wise guidelines for writers, her wisdom fits all roles of leading. We are all creative in our own areas. The arts are keys to connecting to today’s flocks. Find your space. Find out what you love. Try something new and creative. Leading can include practical ways of writing, speaking, and communicating better than before. So, get ready to learn creative leadership from Ann Byle and her hens.

https://annbylewriter.com/

Interview with Ann Byle, Part 1 - Season 4, Episode 13

Thu, 23 May 2024 00:00:00 -0400

Ann Byle offers a wonderful perspective in this week’s episode of Next Step Leadership. Chris and Tracy haven’t invited animals to their podcast, but Ann offers great wisdom from chickens. Her latest book, Chicken Scratch: Lessons on Living Creatively From a Flock of Hens, shows how Ann discovered that her chickens provide valuable insight and inspiration. Rarely do books or podcasts share intuition from a flock of hens, but it happens here. Writers, speakers, pastors, leaders, and those serving in any capacity can learn from Ann’s wisdom and creative thinking. Be ready to smile. Hear the invitation to lead creativity. Apply what you learn from Ann and her flock of hens.

https://annbylewriter.com/

Interview with Brenda Quinn, Part 2 - Season 4, Episode 12

Thu, 16 May 2024 00:00:00 -0400

The Next Step Leadership podcast offers a variety of perspectives from many different speakers. Hosts Tracy Reynolds and Chris Maxwell hope to encourage each person who listens to continue their journey—and to guide many others with them. Brenda Quinn is their guest again this week. What she has learned through Richard Foster and other leaders has helped guide her through pain from the past. God’s ongoing healing through spiritual practices is not just her story—it is your story. Think about how you can follow Jesus for the long hall and guide others with you. Who is modeling for you the soul care life? Who are you modeling it for? Are you revealing a healthy life with God for yourself and for others to see? Set your eyes on Him and not on the things of the world. You are the hands and feet of Jesus.

https://www.linkedin.com/in/brenda-quinn-292b6a29/

Interview with Brenda Quinn, Part 1 - Season 4, Episode 11

Thu, 09 May 2024 00:00:00 -0400

Tracy and Chris enjoy their conversations with each other and with guests. They hope you enjoy their weekly podcasts and that you are encouraged. This week, their guest Brenda Quinn brings deep wisdom and spiritual care. Brenda is Pastor of Spiritual Formation in Colorado and is passionate about soul care for leaders. That is such a vital topic. Listen to Brenda’s story and process your own spiritual adventure. Ask yourself deep questions. How are you seeing soul care as a priority? How can you improve? What practical steps can you begin taking? What times can you set aside this week for your spiritual growth?

https://www.linkedin.com/in/brenda-quinn-292b6a29/

Interview with Steve Ely, Part 2 - Season 4, Episode 10

Thu, 02 May 2024 00:00:00 -0400

Pastor Steve Ely continues as the guest in this episode of Next Step Leadership with Tracy Reynolds and Chris Maxwell. As mentioned last week, Steve serves as the Director of Clergy Development for the International Pentecostal Holiness Church. He’s also the author of Climate Change, a book about the climate of today’s Christianity. In this conversation Steve tells the story of his own healing process from the stress, tension, and pressure of life in leadership and ministry. His heart attack almost ended his life. He lived, but it forced him to take a sabbatical, see a counselor, and make major decisions. He had been internalizing perfectionism and the pressure of ministry. He had to come out of his isolation and pursue healthy relationships. Isolation is the number one factor causing ministers to seek leaving the ministry. Listen to Steve’s honesty. Read his book. Seek help. Now is the time to seek help.

Climate Change book - https://www.amazon.com/Climate-Change-Calming-Lifes-Storms/dp/1960024345/

IPHC Clergy Development - http://phpastor.org/

Interview with Steve Ely, Part 1 - Season 4, Episode 9

Thu, 25 Apr 2024 00:00:00 -0400

Chris Maxwell and Tracy Reynolds enjoyed their conversation with Steve Ely. Steve is the Director of Clergy Development for the International Pentecostal Holiness Church. He has pastored a local congregation and served in various roles of ministry through the years. In his present position, Steve hopes to offer care and encouragement to clergy across the IPHC fellowship. Steve is also an author. His new book is titled Climate Change. Steve hopes to change today’s life climate by caring for ministers and helping them become better in their vocation. What about you? Do you need a climate change? Do you feel like you’ve done all you can do? Are you unsure about how you can make a difference? Listen to Steve Ely’s heart as he tells his story revealing what God has done in his life and why his present role is so vital in these days of leadership stress and pressure.

Climate Change book - https://www.amazon.com/Climate-Change-Calming-Lifes-Storms/dp/1960024345/

IPHC Clergy Development - http://phpastor.org/

Interview with Steve Spillman, Part 2 - Season 4, Episode 8

Thu, 18 Apr 2024 00:00:00 -0400

This is the second episode of Chris and Tracy’s conversation with Steve Spillman of True Potential. What has God called you to say? How does He want you to tell others your story? How can you help others discover God’s love? Steve offers great wisdom for how to get stories to others. He talks about the latest books by Chris and Tracy, “Equilibrium” and “Second Chair Leadership.” He believes we can take time to read books which can make our lives much better. He also believes our words can make the lives of many others much better. What are ways we can work in today’s media to reach today’s audiences? Steve helps answer that question and many others. Listen and be a good steward of telling your story. Be a true steward of God’s story. Share your message with the world.

https://www.truepotentialmedia.com/about/

Interview with Steve Spillman, Part 1 - Season 4, Episode 7

Thu, 11 Apr 2024 00:00:00 -0400

Have you ever wanted to write a book? Is your story important? Will anyone want to read your story? How can you write and publish a book? Many of today’s leaders are asking those questions and thinking about those possibilities. Tracy Reynolds wrote his first book last year. Chris Maxwell‘s 12th book will be coming out later this year. Their publisher Steve Spillman is this week’s guest on Next Step Leadership. He has learned much through the years about ways to get stories out to others. In this episode, he tells his story. Listen and learn why Steve does what he does helping leaders write and publish their stories. Realize more about what God wants you to do as you serve in leadership.

https://www.truepotentialmedia.com/about/

Interview with Beth Erwin, Part 2 - Season 4, Episode 6

Thu, 04 Apr 2024 00:00:00 -0400

Beth Erwin is again the guest for Tracy and Chris in the Next Step Leadership podcast. In this episode, they talk more about the amazing message of Beth’s book Wander No More: Stepping Out of the Wilderness Into Abundant Life. Bad things do happen. Life isn’t always easy. People often distance themselves from God’s love and joy. But we all have a purpose. God does have huge plans. The abundant life is for us. Where are you in your story? Think about those you lead. Where are they in their stories? Take steps. Take the right steps. Believe and live and share the gospel. Many Beths will be changed by your servant leadership.

https://www.amazon.com/Wander-No-More-Stepping-Wilderness/dp/B0CN5TSCG5

Interview with Beth Erwin, Part 1 - Season 4, Episode 5

Thu, 28 Mar 2024 00:00:00 -0400

In this episode of Next Step Leadership, Chris and Tracy talk with Beth Erwin. Beth’s book is Wander No More: Stepping Out of the Wilderness Into Abundant Life. She tells her story of a life with many seasons. Coming from a background of pain and sadness to now leading a ministry of healing, Beth offers assurance for those who face difficulties. Her battles and uncertainty seemed impossible. But God did His work in her life. Beth is now serving the Lord who rescued her. Think about those who are around you, living lives similar to what Beth endured. Offer them hope. Show them the love of Jesus. Inspire them to step out of the wilderness and into abundant life. Encourage them to wander no more.

https://www.amazon.com/Wander-No-More-Stepping-Wilderness/dp/B0CN5TSCG5

Interview with Beth and Eddie Taylor, Part 2 - Season 4, Episode 4

Thu, 21 Mar 2024 00:00:00 -0400

This episode of Next Step Leadership Podcast continues the conversation Tracy Reynolds and Chris Maxwell have with Eddie and Beth Taylor. The Taylors are spending time pouring into the leadership of churches during these difficult seasons. Instead of being defeated by church conflict and division or an anti-church culture, they believe we can walk in joy globally. Through the books and resources they’ve written, the Taylors help people study God’s word. Rather than settling with church entertainment, it is time for followers of Christ to be disciples who study, learn, pray, grow, and develop. Let this episode inspire you to go deeper in your own spiritual growth. Ask yourself important questions. Who are you helping train and develop? What are you providing so young followers of Christ can learn? Are you living with the joy of the Lord as your strength? These difficult days are wonderful opportunities for each of us to serve toward the building of the kingdom.

https://www.taylorministry.com/

Interview with Beth and Eddie Taylor, Part 1 - Season 4, Episode 3

Thu, 14 Mar 2024 00:00:00 -0400

People love to listen to stories. Don’t you? As leaders, we all understand the power of narratives. In this episode of Next Step Leadership, Eddie and Beth Taylor tell us their stories. Listen to how God has guided their journeys related to becoming followers of Jesus, marriage, family, their calling into ministry, years of pastoring a local church, and obeying God to start a new ministry. Learn how they have worked together to serve as true followers of Jesus. Think about where you are in your journey. Are you willing to go wherever God directs you? If not, what is stopping you? Not every church planting is successful. Risks aren’t simple. Failure can be a friend. Ambitions must shift in total surrender to God. Ministry shouldn’t be all we do — it should be a part of life. Have faith but don’t deny facts. Seek help. Seeing qualified counselors can help leaders work through their hurts. Remember that He who has called you will guide you. He will not leave you. Eddie and Beth Taylor set an example of how a couple can serve together. Let us learn from their example.

https://www.taylorministry.com/

Interview with Peter Greer, Part 2 - Season 4, Episode 2

Thu, 07 Mar 2024 00:00:00 -0500

This week’s episode of Next Step Leadership continues the conversation with Peter Greer. Tracy and Chris were honored to listen to Peter and learn from his story. Mission work doesn’t always need to be done the same way it has always been done. New opportunities are all around us. What is microbusiness? Why is it important? How can we do more than has been done in the past? How does God want to move us from arguments and division to unity and partnerships? How do our decisions follow through on what our God of abundance is instructing us to do? Peter Greer and his ministry are making a global difference. His books offer insight every follower of Christ should learn from. He challenges leaders toward collaboration, partnership, teamwork, practical service, deep learning, and biblical compassion. We need those in these times. Listen and learn from Peter Greer.

https://www.peterkgreer.com/
https://www.peterkgreer.com/books/

Interview with Peter Greer, Part 1 - Season 4, Episode 1

Thu, 29 Feb 2024 00:00:00 -0500

It is time for Season Four of Next Step Leadership Podcast with Tracy Reynolds and Chris Maxwell. Isn’t that hard to believe? Each episode offers audiences a chance to gain information and inspiration. And this week’s podcast is one of the best in all the previous three seasons. Peter Greer, author and President & CEO of Hope International, is the Next Step Leadership guest you do not want to miss. Peter’s wisdom and compassion offer the example fitting in today’s culture. His heart cares deeply for those often forgotten. His intellect brings a perspective desperately needed. Listen to Peter’s story – his life as a preacher’s kid, his personal spiritual journey, and why he does what he does. Think about ways you can learn from Hope International and carry that type of leadership through your own life.

https://www.peterkgreer.com/
https://www.peterkgreer.com/books/

Interview with Jon Shabaglian, Part 2 - Season 3, Episode 52

Thu, 22 Feb 2024 00:00:00 -0500

Jon Shabaglian continues telling his story to Tracy and Chris in this episode of Next Step Leadership. Jon knows about pain, about difficulty, about reconciliation, about praise, about intercession. He offers his insight to us, believing God is calling us all deeper into His presence and into healthy relationships with many others from many places. Jon's music needs to be heard. His ministry needs to be noticed. His training needs to be welcomed. God is calling today’s leaders to join the world of psalmists. Listen to his stories of international conflict and relational restoration. Listen to his stories about prayer vigils and supernatural impact. Listen to his stories about warfare and forgiveness. God cooks slowly, but we should welcome His pace. Look at the biblical characters God used to change the world and remember how God truly works. Learn how you can raise an army to push back darkness and join the victory. Celebrate with the team where God has placed you.

https://www.jonshabaglian.com/
https://www.psalmistmission.org/

Interview with Jon Shabaglian, Part 1 - Season 3, Episode 51

Thu, 15 Feb 2024 00:00:00 -0500

In this week’s episode of Next Step Leadership, Chris Maxwell and Tracy Reynolds interview Jon Shabaglian. Jon is a recording artist, singer, songwriter, and minister seeking to bring God’s hands and people’s hands together. God continues creating psalmists, Jon believes. He tells his story of international influence, family trauma, musical styles, historical genocide, loving enemies, and the deep calling to guide every nation toward worship. In our limited views of leadership, we need to learn from story tellers and leaders like Jon. He cares. He prays. He trains others. Whatever the role as pastor or leader, remember your history. Remember God’s story in the middle of your narrative. How can you learn from other tribes in worship, in intercession, in teamwork, and in forgiveness? How can you go deeper into a life of intercession? Jon’s honesty helps you answer those questions.

https://www.jonshabaglian.com/
https://www.psalmistmission.org/

Interview with Seana Scott, Part 2 - Season 3, Episode 50

Thu, 08 Feb 2024 00:00:00 -0500

Seana Scott continues her conversation with Tracy Reynolds and Chris Maxwell in this episode of Next Step Leadership. She talks about those people who helped her come to know Jesus and also the need for people to mentor her in that spiritual journey. She is now seeking to be there for those needing the right type of spiritual mentors. Through her writing and teaching, Seana encourages her audience to connect with a local church. As audiences learn from her online, she emphasizes the need they each have for relational discipleship. In cultural Christianity, discipleship is missing. She seeks to change that. She hopes all of us can emphasize that better. The example is for those who make disciples to make disciples who will make disciples—the ongoing journey where followers grow and bring others with them. Hear her wisdom. Apply that to your life. Know what Jesus wants you to do. Finish the work. You can make a difference. One disciple at a time.

https://shereadstruth.com/author/seanascott

Interview with Seana Scott, Part 1 - Season 3, Episode 49

Thu, 01 Feb 2024 00:00:00 -0500

Tracy and Chris loved their conversation with Seana Scott. They believe you will also. Seana is a biblical teacher and writer. She brings a wonderful perspective on spiritual growth and development. As in most of the first episodes with their guests, Tracy and Chris ask Seana to tell her story. Though she did not grow up in a Christian home, she was always attracted to spiritual issues. Her journey has revealed her a reality beyond her reality, as her curiosity lured her toward God’s love. Now as a follower of Jesus, Seana seeks to refresh the souls of others. You can hear that in her voice and her stories. She values education and community, inviting all of today’s leaders to join her in this journey. Listen to her story. Think about your story and the stories of those you lead.

https://shereadstruth.com/author/seanascott

Interview with Bill Schwartz, Part 2 - Season 3, Episode 48

Thu, 25 Jan 2024 00:00:00 -0500

Tracy and Chris are honored to continue their dialogue with missionary, pastor, and leader Bill Schwartz. As Bill reminds us, there will be distractions in life. But he encourages us to have a life statement reminding us that we should “live to make a difference.” He and his family seek to do that. He invites us all to say yes to that invitation. So, how does Bill and his ministry reach that goal? He builds people and organizations to help people define who they are. If we don’t define ourselves, others will define us. Because of that, evaluate your giftings and your desires, consult with spiritual leaders, and remember that intimacy with God needs to be intentional. It helps to write those things down and focus on who you are. Bill senses the importance of these three things: making disciples, training leaders, and planting churches. Listen in and define success correctly. Allow your definition of success to be obedience to God.

Interview with Bill Schwartz, Part 1 - Season 3, Episode 47

Thu, 18 Jan 2024 00:00:00 -0500

Chris Maxwell and Tracy Reynolds hope you take time to listen to each podcast. But they want to be sure you do not miss their conversations with missionary, pastor, and leader Bill Schwartz. In this episode you will learn from Bill’s life story. His narrative reminds the audience that there can be deep pain in our stories and clouds over our lives. Jesus, however, brings hope in the middle of difficulty. Bill and his family have received God’s hope and they now serve globally to share that hope with multitudes of people. Like Bill, you have a reason to be here. And like Bill, you can make a great difference as you lead through mentoring, consulting wise counsel, and refusing to do life alone. He believes isolation is a dangerous place, but God and others can help us through grief, uncertainty, and living in obedience to our callings. Enjoy his story. Receive God’s invitation for this next chapter of your own story.

Interview with Sergio Castro, Part 2 - Season 3, Episode 46

Thu, 11 Jan 2024 00:00:00 -0500

In this episode of Next Step Leadership, Tracy Reynolds and Chris Maxwell continue their inspiring chat with Sergio Castro. Sergio, his wife and children now live in North Carolina, after years in the nation of Columbia. Sergio displays authentic, humble, caring leadership. Serving now at Living Hope Church, Sergio still helps lead a network of churches he pastors in Columbia. Listen to the influence others have had in his life. Hear his heart for God and people. Welcome the same invitation in your own life Sergio has received in his life. God is taking you right where He wants you to serve. Are you willing to say yes? Are you welcoming His invitation? People are waiting for you. Let Sergio Castro’s story and his wisdom challenge you to notice God’s stepping stones. Do not miss the opportunities. Your gifts are important. They are needed. Do not get so enslaved by the processes that you miss the importance of caring for people.

https://livinghopelenoir.com/media/wc5qkgw/good-soil-abundant-harvest

Interview with Sergio Castro, Part 1 - Season 3, Episode 45

Thu, 04 Jan 2024 00:00:00 -0500

Chris and Tracy loved their conversation with Sergio Castro. They spent time with Sergio as he moved from the nation of Columbia as a preacher’s kid and attended college at Emmanuel University. Sergio and his wife have served in ministry in Columbia since graduating from Emmanuel, and they now live in North Carolina where Sergio is on staff at Living Hope Church. This episode offers a wonderful example of how dedication, commitment, and faith allow God to help His children become people they never expected to go. “How did I get here?” is a question Sergio often asks. He has learned that it is only through God’s grace. He worked through initial reluctance to pursue ministry, and his obedience and faith have opened many doors. He received God’s challenge to study deeply. As you listen, think of those areas God has gifted you and is calling you. Work through your reluctance. Welcome the right people to walk with you. Study deeply. Learn well. Love people. And believe God will do the impossible.

https://livinghopelenoir.com/media/wc5qkgw/good-soil-abundant-harvest

Interview with David Cooper, Part 2 - Season 3, Episode 44

Thu, 28 Dec 2023 00:00:00 -0500

Chris and Tracy continue their conversation with Pastor David Cooper. As you listen to Pastor Cooper’s decades of wisdom and insight, take notes. His ideas are thoughts needed for today’s leaders. Pastor Cooper loves and lives the values of preaching God’s word, having a deep walk with Jesus, working to reach people for the Kingdom, and guiding the church toward the cross. David has written worship songs and reminds us all that God is a musician. Writing worship songs was therapy to Pastor Cooper during a difficult season. His songs and stories can become therapy to each of us. He hopes to continue drawing nearer to Jesus—and inviting others to go with him. He would rather have Jesus than anything else or anyone else. Lead by letting Jesus be your deep desire.

https://www.pastordavidcooper.com/

Interview with David Cooper, Part 1 - Season 3, Episode 43

Thu, 21 Dec 2023 00:00:00 -0500

David Cooper is a true leader. Through his years of pastoring, playing music, writing, and speaking, many followers have learned how to take the right steps through Pastor Cooper’s guidance. Tracy Reynolds and Chris Maxwell were honored to spend time with him. Pastor Cooper is the lead pastor of Mount Paran Church near Atlanta, which has over 13,000 excited and passionate members committed to the cause of Christ. Tracy and David have played music together, and loved talking about how teamwork is crucial for today’s leaders. Pastor Cooper is known as an excellent preacher—a gift so often forgotten when we push so hard for other leadership skills. His fascinating memory, his artistic skills, and his deep heart for Jesus bring the information we need. Listen to David’s wisdom and seek ways to learn from him.

https://www.pastordavidcooper.com/

Interview with Terry A. Smith, Part 2 - Season 3, Episode 42

Thu, 14 Dec 2023 00:00:00 -0500

In their second conversation with pastor and author Terry A. Smith, Tracy and Chris continue a fascinating dialogue. Pastor Smith offers deep insight from his years of leadership and his creative mind. Smith’s book, The Hospitable Leader, provides practical ways for today’s leaders to set biblical examples in this modern culture. Yes, every pastor and teacher and follower of Jesus needs to read that book. His latest book, The Lord Bless You: A 28-Day Journey to Experience God’s Extravagant Blessings, is another wonderful fit for every believer. We often lead controlled by worry. We often rush ahead to achieve goals while overwhelmed by negatives. As Terry reminds us, God has sent His blessings our way. Let us not forget them. Let us receive them. Listen to the podcast, read Pastor Smith’s books, share his message, be a hospitable leader, and live in the blessings of God.

https://www.terryasmith.com/
Terry's books:
The Lord Bless You - https://www.amazon.com/Lord-Bless-You-Experience-Extravagant/dp/0800762827/ref=tmm_hrd_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
The Hospitable Leader - https://www.amazon.com/Hospitable-Leader-Create-Environments-Flourish/dp/B07KPPRH8R/ref=sr_1_3?crid=78A3SED3ZM3K&keywords=Terry+A+SMith&qid=1701951609&s=books&sprefix=terry+a+smit%2Cstripbooks%2C250&sr=1-3
Live Ten - https://www.amazon.com/Live-Ten-Jump-Start-Best-Version-ebook/dp/B00C5QA5TI/ref=sr_1_5?crid=78A3SED3ZM3K&keywords=Terry+A+SMith&qid=1701951609&s=books&sprefix=terry+a+smit%2Cstripbooks%2C250&sr=1-5

Interview with Terry A. Smith, Part 1 - Season 3, Episode 41

Thu, 07 Dec 2023 00:00:00 -0500

Tracy and Chris were honored to have a wonderful conversation with pastor and author Terry A. Smith. Terry offers insight for leaders in church, business, and community. Through his years of pastoral leadership, Terry has guided his congregation and his culture to deep care and genuine service. Listen to this episode of Next Step Leadership. Invite your team, your church, and your friends to hear his thoughts and to read Terry’s books. As you hear and read his words, apply what you learn. His heart is genuine. His wisdom is deep. His leadership can guide us all toward making a positive difference in today’s world. His latest book is The Lord Bless You: A 28-Day Journey to Experience God's Extravagant Blessings.

https://www.terryasmith.com/
Terry's books:
The Lord Bless You - https://www.amazon.com/Lord-Bless-You-Experience-Extravagant/dp/0800762827/ref=tmm_hrd_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=
The Hospitable Leader - https://www.amazon.com/Hospitable-Leader-Create-Environments-Flourish/dp/B07KPPRH8R/ref=sr_1_3?crid=78A3SED3ZM3K&keywords=Terry+A+SMith&qid=1701951609&s=books&sprefix=terry+a+smit%2Cstripbooks%2C250&sr=1-3
Live Ten - https://www.amazon.com/Live-Ten-Jump-Start-Best-Version-ebook/dp/B00C5QA5TI/ref=sr_1_5?crid=78A3SED3ZM3K&keywords=Terry+A+SMith&qid=1701951609&s=books&sprefix=terry+a+smit%2Cstripbooks%2C250&sr=1-5

Interview with Brian Burgess, Part 2 - Season 3, Episode 40

Thu, 30 Nov 2023 00:00:00 -0500

This episode of Next Step Leadership continues the story of Pastor Brian Burgess. Chris Maxwell and Tracy Reynolds could have chosen to just focus on vision and mission, letting Brian offer his insight. He could have told success stories and offered guidance for today’s leaders. But life isn’t easy. Ministry is hard. Leadership carries deep wounds. Brian tells his story about that weight. How has it affected him? What has he learned? Why has he resigned from pastoring? How can he pursue health? How should other leaders learn from him? Are you tired? Is it okay for a dream to die? Is it time for a sabbatical? Who should you talk to?

Interview with Brian Burgess, Part 1 - Season 3, Episode 39

Thu, 23 Nov 2023 00:00:00 -0500

Pastor Brian Burgess brings another timely story to Next Step Leadership. Tracy and Chris invite you to listen to Brian’s story and to learn lessons from his narrative. Brian knows about leading and pastoring. He knows about family and modern trends. He knows about stress and burnout. Brian brings his authentic heart as he talks about how much he has learned through his life—his days of playing music, of falling in love with Jesus, of attending college, of serving in ministry. Let his story speak to you and your team. How can you be a genuine leader like the one who led Brian? How can you encounter Jesus in a real way? How can you take the right steps for your own life of leading and serving?

Interview with Shell Osbon, Part 2 - Season 3, Episode 38

Thu, 16 Nov 2023 00:00:00 -0500

This episode of Next Step Leadership continues the conversation with Tracy Reynolds, Chris Maxwell, and their guest Pastor Shell Osbon. He tells more stories from his book “It’s Not Good for Leaders to Lead Alone.” The title of his book is a perfect fit for what Chris and Tracy want each listener to always remember. We need one another. We aren’t to lead in isolation. We must grasp the value of leading together. Pastor Osbon‘s book applies to many settings—churches and businesses and communities. Secondary leaders can learn better principles for serving their primary leaders. Any organization would benefit from this book. Welcome this episode’s words from Pastor Osbon.

https://lifechurchsmyrna.com/ourpastor
Twitter - @shellosbon
Amazon - https://www.amazon.com/dp/1940197694/ref=cm_sw_r_api_i_9PNMSWVAKDDQZP1STY3T_0

Interview with Shell Osbon, Part 1 - Season 3, Episode 37

Thu, 09 Nov 2023 00:00:00 -0500

Pastor Shell Osbon is this week’s guest in Next Step Leadership. Chris and Tracy believe all the listeners will love hearing Shell’s story. He is a lead pastor and has recently written a leadership book which is the perfect fit for this podcast’s audience, “It’s Not Good for Leaders to Lead Alone.” As Pastor Osbon tells his story, listen and think about what lessons you can learn in your role. Pastor Osbon’s testimony should encourage each of us. God met him and called him to serve in ministry. Through family and sports and church, he has learned endurance. What about you? What can we do to help others? How can we make a positive difference?

https://lifechurchsmyrna.com/ourpastor
Twitter - @shellosbon
Amazon - https://www.amazon.com/dp/1940197694/ref=cm_sw_r_api_i_9PNMSWVAKDDQZP1STY3T_0

Interview with Dan Reiland, Part 2 - Season 3, Episode 36

Thu, 02 Nov 2023 00:00:00 -0400

In this episode, Chris and Tracy continue a great conversation with Dan Reiland. Through his writing and mentoring, Dan brings a variety of practices to guide new and established leaders. Dan offers Scripture and experience, providing wisdom so needed in this season. Prayer is another area Dan discusses. How can today’s leaders pursue the life of a child of God? Relationships must be placed over routine. Spiritual growth comes from time spent with our True Leader. Receive Dan’s dedication and his guidance. Read his books. Lead like Jesus.

https://danreiland.com/
Joshua's Men Resources - FREE!
https://resources.12stone.church/resource/15117

Interview with Dan Reiland, Part 1 - Season 3, Episode 35

Thu, 26 Oct 2023 00:00:00 -0400

Tracy and Chris are honored to enjoy another interview with a previous guest. Author, leader, minister Dan Reiland is this episode’s guest. Dan writes and speaks with the hope of guiding audiences toward a season of wisdom. How can today’s leaders train followers in a world controlled by hurry? Dan wants leaders to grasp these two important words: slow down. We place too many demands on ourselves and our teams. We should, instead, gain margin and use the margin wisely. Dan’s deep, practical insight is just what is needed for each of us.
https://danreiland.com/
Joshua's Men Resources - FREE!
https://resources.12stone.church/resource/15117

Interview with Margaret Turner, Part 2 - Season 3, Episode 34

Thu, 19 Oct 2023 00:00:00 -0400

In their second conversation with Margaret Turner, Tracy Reynolds and Chris Maxwell continue smiling as they see where God has guided their dear friend. Margaret is an example of a young leader who has pursued big dreams and not given up. Today’s culture needs leaders who refuse to waver but choose to endure. Margaret talks about adopting an international child, about pursuing cultural change, about finding ways to stand up for those in the sad world of human trafficking, about pursuing a legal position. She believes it is not enough to state an opinion against human trafficking, but the right actions need to be taken. Social justice ministry became her calling. Margaret was willing to obey. What about you? What are you doing for the marginalized, for the hurting, for the weak? How can you speak for them? How can you love them? How can you make a positive difference in our world?
https://www.illuminatejustice.com/

Interview with Margaret Turner, Part 1 - Season 3, Episode 33

Thu, 12 Oct 2023 00:00:00 -0400

Chris and Tracy have known Margaret Turner for many years. They are honored to talk to her in this episode of Next Step Leadership. They have seen Margaret pursue dreams and work hard to let those dreams come to life. What can you learn from her story? What is keeping you from pursuing your own dreams? Margaret tells her story about the journey toward turning those dreams into realities—her deep educational work, her role as a wife and mom, her speaking engagements, her writing, and her pursuit of becoming a lawyer to help people in need. She has continued working with a serving heart. Let her story challenge you to reflect on your story. Remember what brought you where you now serve. Remember how you can make a difference. Remember that your voice needs to be heard. People are waiting for you. Be willing to chase those dreams and let them become realities.
https://www.illuminatejustice.com/

Interview with Bronson Crawford, Part 2 - Season 3, Episode 32

Thu, 05 Oct 2023 00:00:00 -0400

Chris Maxwell and Tracy Reynolds continue their honest dialogue with Pastor Bronson Crawford. Bronson has learned much through his years of ministry and he shares much of that with us. God is a God of seasons. He sees through a different perspective. What our culture considers failure might be just what God wants for the building of His kingdom. Maybe some leaders in the audience need to decide to meet with mentors who will help them in their life journeys. Maybe some need to go see a professional counselor. As so many of today’s leaders feel overwhelmed and unprepared and unable and incapable, they need help. They need to not face their struggles alone. We might be among them. Who should you seek for help? What fears are holding you back? Do you feel like nothing ever works out for you? Who can help identify your battles and guide your next steps? Do not forget the many blessings all around you. Refuse to be controlled by lies swirling through your mind. Be healthy. Be real. Be the one receiving help.

Interview with Bronson Crawford, Part 1 - Season 3, Episode 31

Thu, 28 Sep 2023 00:00:00 -0400

Bronson Crawford offers his wisdom in this episode of Next Step Leadership Podcast. Tracy and Chris listen to Pastor Bronson—Stewardship Director at Athens Church and former lead pastor for seven years—as he provides a perspective of the joys, the endurance, the development, and the difficulties of life in ministry. As you listen to his narrative, take time to think about your own story. His parents divorced, remarried, and he then accepted Jesus at a young age. He played basketball at Emmanuel College, and began pursuing ministry positions. Each of his roles in vocational ministry taught him many lessons. He and his family have pursued dreams while seeking the right mentors to guide their steps. As Bronson hoped to do great things for God, those experiences have not always ended how he hoped. But, like each of us, he learned important lessons. Take time to learn from his story and how God works through us despite ourselves. Do not just pursue great things. Be sure you are seeking to do great things for God. Embrace what is often considered a failure. See the good in those tough times.

Interview with Stacy Cope, Part 2 - Season 3, Episode 30

Thu, 21 Sep 2023 00:00:00 -0400

This episode in the second interview with Pastor Stacy Cope. Chris and Tracy ask you to join them as they listen to Pastor Stacy’s stories. Parts of his narrative are included in the books he has written. When you think about his books, when you read them, be sure to remember this: Pastor Stacy never expected to be able to write books. Like each of us, he is a miracle. Like each of us, God uses weaknesses and pain and struggles to bring us a victory. As today’s people are being called by God to do what they do not feel capable of doing, we need to remember that our calling is not dependent on our strengths. Someone who struggles to read might become an author. Someone who never wants to minister might become a pastor. Someone who has failed might be the very leader to guide a multitude of people toward victory. Believe again. Trust God again. Lead with the awareness that God will lead others through leaders like Pastor Stacy and leaders like you.

testimonies told.com
Untold Testimonies Told - author website
Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/stacy.cope.79

Interview with Stacy Cope, Part 1 - Season 3, Episode 29

Thu, 14 Sep 2023 00:00:00 -0400

Tracy Reynolds and Chris Maxwell are honored to have a conversation with Pastor Stacy Cope. Pastor Cope is a tremendous story teller. And he has many stories to tell. Like each guest Tracy and Chris welcome on the Next Step Leadership Podcast, this episode begins with the testimony of Pastor Cope. Listening to his story, leaders will hear again how God finds people in many places and guides them into ministry. Bi-vocational clergy are common these days. Many churches cannot afford full time leaders. Many pastors choose to continue other careers. Pastor Cope offers a healthy perspective to encourage today’s ministers to see the other job as their “pulpit.” Listen to his stories and think of how you can lead well while loving what you do, who you serve, and how your story can make a difference in the lives of many people. Let wherever you work and whatever you do be your pulpit. Lead there. Love there.

https://www.testimoniestold.com
Untold Testimonies Told - author website
Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/stacy.cope.79

Interview with TJ Rosene, Part 2 - Season 3, Episode 28

Thu, 07 Sep 2023 00:00:00 -0400

In this episode of Next Step Leadership, Chris and Tracy are honored again to enjoy a conversation with Coach TJ Rosene. Coach Rosen is the men’s basketball coach at Emmanuel University and leads in many areas in the basketball world. He also motivates other leaders in whatever field they serve. Take time to listen and learn from Coach Rosene. His experience, knowledge, and leadership skills are needed in these times. As you lead, you are building a culture. How is that culture functioning? What steps can you apply from this podcast to make a better impact in your culture? How do you work through the “messy middle” of your own adventure? How have your courageous conversations led to break-throughs? What can we do this week to help lead others into what is best, instead of it all being about what we want as leaders? How can leading from different chairs help guide teams toward victories?

Hardwood Hustle Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/hardwood-hustle/id658885222
PGC Basketball -n https://pgcbasketball.com/

Emmanuel University Men's Basketball - https://goeclions.com/staff-directory/tj-rosene/10

Interview with TJ Rosene, Part 1 - Season 3, Episode 27

Thu, 31 Aug 2023 00:00:00 -0400

TJ Rosene is the men’s basketball coach at Emmanuel University and host of the Hardwood Hustle Podcast. Coach Rosene also serves with Point Guard College, training and developing basketball coaches and student athletes. TJ helps coaches become the best coaches, and the best people, they can be. They seek to be a light in the basketball world, hoping to make a difference in today’s culture. He desires to help people find their “WHY?” As you serve in your role, listen to Coach Rosene’s thoughts. Let his words speak to you. Join the conversation by asking yourself important questions. Why are you here? Who are you leading? Why do you serve where you serve and how you serve? What are your strengths and weaknesses? Who is there to help make you better?

Hardwood Hustle Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/hardwood-hustle/id658885222
PGC Basketball -n https://pgcbasketball.com/

Emmanuel University Men's Basketball - https://goeclions.com/staff-directory/tj-rosene/10

Interview with Erik Goss, Part 2 - Season 3, Episode 26

Thu, 24 Aug 2023 00:00:00 -0400

This episode of Next Step Leadership continues the conversation with Erik Goss. Experiences which seemed to shut doors can actually become opportunities which opened doors. How does that fit in your story? How can your grim situation be the right time for God to turn a desert into an oasis? Have you forgotten the truth of God’s deep love for you? What are ways we can become more aware of the Holy Spirit’s presence with us no matter what else we are facing? God wants to transform us and help us recognize His character amid our chaos. God’s love doesn’t end. God’s love is steadfast. Whenever we face hardships, God meets us there. Are we willing to trust God during those times? Erik invites us to find that new way of living where God is with us.

Interview with Erik Goss, Part 1 - Season 3, Episode 25

Thu, 17 Aug 2023 00:00:00 -0400

In this week’s episode of Next Step Leadership, Tracy and Chris enjoy their conversation with Erik Goss. Today’s leaders need to hear from Erik. He offers years of experience in providing ways of connecting with children through media. Rather than just telling children what not to watch, why don’t we offer them better options to learn truth through today’s outlets? Eric’s media and technology company seeks to provide families with ways people can experience Jesus in a real way. He has learned much working with various companies. His lessons can teach us all how God opens new doors when other doors close. In industrial complexes the gospel is needed. Ministry types of vocations can be crafted in unexpected ways. We do not always need to follow our initial assumptions. We can join Eric and fight through disappointments, depression, and closed doors. From a crisis, a new opportunity can arrive. Be ready. See what God will do through what felt impossible.

Interview with Hans Hess, Part 2 - Season 3, Episode 24

Thu, 10 Aug 2023 00:00:00 -0400

This week offers another conversation with Pastor Hans Hess. His evangelistic heart and academic mind come out in his comments. Hans believes the hope of winning people to Jesus directs him in each of his roles. His pastoral experience offers depth to his stories. Pastoring isn’t simple. Death of a spouse isn’t easy. Discerning God’s guidance isn’t always clear. Not all churches grow quickly. Not all gifted leaders can do what other leaders do. Some church doors close. Some people we love die. Hans hopes leaders will not give up. He believes the next step could be the step needed to take us where God wants us to go. He contends we don’t always need to change what we do because sometimes God’s timing is what brings change. Even when we don’t know what to do next or how to endure difficult seasons, God is with us.

Interview with Hans Hess, Part 1 - Season 3, Episode 23

Thu, 03 Aug 2023 00:00:00 -0400

Pastor Hans Hess joins Chris Maxwell and Tracy Reynolds for this week’s Next Step Leadership Podcast. Hans is a scholar, a musician, a pastor, an evangelist, an author, and a fabulous communicator. His biblical depth and his pastoral heart offer appropriate guidance for today’s leaders. He leads with a desire to bring the love of Jesus to people around the world. As you listen to his testimony, you can gain a great understanding of why he does what he does. Think about how, though your story is different, the same Jesus who gave His life for Hans also gave His life for you. Through the empowerment of God’s Spirit, Hans believes God continues healing him from his grief and guiding him to reach multitudes.

Interview with Jim Thornber, Part 2 - Season 3, Episode 22

Thu, 27 Jul 2023 00:00:00 -0400

Jim Thornber continues this week as the guest in Next Step Leadership. His stories remind listeners of lessons he’s learned from orthodox obedience, holy joy, biblical study, and deep grief. Jim hopes audiences hear from his heart as he reveals God’s peace as it visits during life’s tough experiences. Listen to his words as he talks about his wife's battle with Covid and her death. Hearing Jim’s honesty and his tears keeps the focus of this podcast on real life. Real life includes grief. It includes sadness. It includes tears. It includes questions. It includes God’s love and His peace. Leaders must remember those facts. Leaders also must remember the invitation and calling to grieve well. We are not meant to live life—and lead others—alone.
https://jimthornber.com/
https://www.amazon.com/Better-Every-Breath-Journey-Living/dp/1954533063

Interview with Jim Thornber, Part 1 - Season 3, Episode 21

Thu, 20 Jul 2023 00:00:00 -0400

Tracy Reynolds and Chris Maxwell are honored to learn from Pastor Jim Thornber. Jim tells his joyful and painful story about life, ministry, and grief. Jim has written two books—he talks about those books, about his spiritual journey, and about the goodness of God. He also talks about the death of his wife. Jim brings a mixture of experiences, offering thoughts to the wide audience of Next Step Leadership. As you listen to his story, think about ways you can move away from your own comfort zone and welcome God’s invitation into new territory. Take time to reflect on how God has guided you through seasons of transition, uncertainty, surrendering, grief, and deep joy in the Spirit. Welcome the new directions God is taking you.
https://jimthornber.com/
https://www.amazon.com/Better-Every-Breath-Journey-Living/dp/1954533063

Interview with Tracy Reynolds, Part 2 - Season 3, Episode 20

Thu, 13 Jul 2023 00:00:00 -0400

Tracy Reynolds continues answering questions from Chris Maxwell as they talk about Tracy’s new book, Leading from Second Chair. Tracy is a gifted musician, so it was fitting for him to use music as the illustration to instruct today’s audience how to serve under other leaders. They might not have the final word, but their words are important. They might not always get their way, but they can help others stay true to the leader’s way. The “second chair” is a place to serve, to care, to listen, to learn, to love, and to lead. How can the second chair be a peacemaker? How does the second chair have an important sphere of influence? How can you make things better? What is your lane, and how can you stay faithful and humble in that lane? How can you discover and deploy your greatest gifts? Learn from Tracy. Remember the value and honor of leading well from the second chair.

Interview with Tracy Reynolds, Part 1 - Season 3, Episode 19

Thu, 06 Jul 2023 00:00:00 -0400

In this episode of Next Step Leadership, Chris and Tracy do not interview an outside guest. Instead, Chris has a conversation with Tracy about Tracy’s new book. Chris is very excited about this book because he has believed a long time in Tracy and hoped this book would be written. Tracy offers an importance perspective for today’s leaders. Not everyone who leads is the senior leader. Most leaders lead while also working under someone else’s leadership. Second Chair Leadership is the fitting title for Tracy’s book. First chair get’s much attention in these days of social media and titles and bios. But the second chair offers opportunities where humility and Christlikeness set the mood. Most people do not want to be second. Most want to be first. But there are fewer openings for first chair. Listen to Tracy. Get a copy of his book and read it. Get copies for your team. There are many people sitting in many seats—second chair leadership offers ways to serve like Jesus even when serving in a position we never signed up for.

Interview with Charlies Dawes, Part 2 - Season 3, Episode 18

Thu, 29 Jun 2023 00:00:00 -0400

This week’s episode continues the conversation Tracy and Chris enjoy with Charlie Dawes. As a servant leader, Charlie talks about life and ministry. Life is not always easy. Ministry is not always easy. But serving Jesus and loving people are the true goals for today’s leaders. Education, a life of learning, finding mentors, valuing pastoral care, pursuing God in healthy ways, vocational ministry: realizing we can only take people as deep as we ourselves have gone. Taking the right steps. Accepting the value of training and growth. Read Charlie’s book, Simple Prayer. Listen to his heart. Pursue the best method of learning for yourself and those you lead.
https://hillcitydc.com/who-we-are
https://www.amazon.com/Simple-Prayer-Learning-Speak-Ease/dp/0830844813
https://www.instagram.com/charlie_dawes/?hl=en
https://twitter.com/charlie_dawes?lang=en
https://www.facebook.com/hillcitychurchdc/

Interview with Charlie Dawes, Part 1 - Season 3, Episode 17

Thu, 22 Jun 2023 00:00:00 -0400

Pastor and author Charlie Dawes is an ideal guest for Next Step Leadership. Chris has known Charlie for many years and is excited to see all the work Charlie has done. Charlie serves as a pastor of Hill City Church and is the author of Simple Prayer: Learning to Speak to God with Ease. Charlie tells his story about growing up in church and being mentored well by his pastor. While many congregations in today’s culture get attention based on numerical growth, young leaders need mentors. Pastor Basil Savoie was that type of true pastor for Charlie. Those years helped Charlie become the servant leader God wanted him to be. Listen to his story. Look for those who can mentor you and those you can mentor. Do not miss these important times.
https://hillcitydc.com/who-we-are
https://www.amazon.com/Simple-Prayer-Learning-Speak-Ease/dp/0830844813
https://www.instagram.com/charlie_dawes/?hl=en
https://twitter.com/charlie_dawes?lang=en
https://www.facebook.com/hillcitychurchdc/

Interview with Elias Dummer, Part 2 - Season 3, Episode 16

Thu, 15 Jun 2023 00:00:00 -0400

In this episode of Next Step Leadership, Tracy and Chris continue their conversation with Elias Dummer. As a gifted writer and worship leader, Elias offers deep thoughts on theology and modern trends. Today’s leaders need to gain a better understanding of what key voices like Elias bring. He has concerns about how a few companies control church music, influence the trends of followers of Christ, and potentially limit creative minds from accomplishing kingdom work. Elias and others worked on a project asking important questions related to worship and the brain. Why do we choose songs the way we do? Why are worship songs changing so quickly? What is driving those decisions? Through their study and data, today’s leaders can learn more of the “why” related to today’s worship.
https://eliasdummer.com/
https://www.youtube.com/eliasdummer
https://www.facebook.com/eliasdummermusic
https://twitter.com/eliasdummer
https://www.instagram.com/eliasdummer/

Interview with Elias Dummer, Part 1 - Season 3, Episode 15

Thu, 08 Jun 2023 00:00:00 -0400

Chris and Tracy enjoyed a wonderful conversation with singer, songwriter Elias Dummer. Elias has been involved in various bands and worship teams. In this episode, Elias tells his story. His band City Harmonic, his church involvement, and his desire for building a community of faith reveal his hope for being like Jesus and following Him. As he talks, his wise mind and caring heart are obvious. Neuroscience, academic research, data studies, worship trends, merging various denominations together, pastoral gatherings, writing, church planting, loving his family, marketing: the story of Elias offers many components. His thoughts provide an inspiring and challenging segment for today’s leaders.
https://eliasdummer.com/
https://www.youtube.com/eliasdummer
https://www.facebook.com/eliasdummermusic
https://twitter.com/eliasdummer
https://www.instagram.com/eliasdummer/

Interview with Tim Elmore, Part 2 - Season 3, Episode 14

Thu, 01 Jun 2023 00:00:00 -0400

This episode continues the conversation with Tim Elmore about his book A New Kind of Diversity. Tim brings so much wisdom to help today’s leaders learn from and work with each generation. Who is walking along beside today’s leaders? How can every age work well together? What if we receive the strength from each generation? How can the deeply committed, the creative minds, the dreamers, the realists, the optimists, and the entrepreneurs all partner to serve as one team? How can we narrow the gap between generations? Tim encourages leaders to clarify expectations and grasp communication norms. His action steps give practical hope for leaders to run toward success instead of running away from the unknown environment.

https://www.timelmore.com
New Book - A New Kind of Diversity - HERE

Interview with Tim Elmore, Part 1 - Season 3, Episode 13

Thu, 25 May 2023 00:00:00 -0400

Tracy and Chris are honored to interview Tim Elmore again. Tim’s latest book, A New Kind of Diversity: Making the Different Generations on Your Team a Competitive Advantage, is the ideal theme for Next Step Leadership. Instead of just tolerating one another, leaders must leverage the strengths of every generation. Instead of division, this can create teamwork and community. Instead of building walls, bridges must be built between each generation. There are seven distinct sociological generations living on planet earth now. Five of those are in the work place. Older veterans and young rookies need to get together to share ideas, stories, and super powers. Tim offers insight on understanding and working with each generation. This mindset can offer a creative, wise, and successful season for the next steps of today’s leaders.

https://www.timelmore.com
New Book - A New Kind of Diversity - HERE

Interview with Sean Seay, Part 2 - Season 3, Episode 12

Thu, 18 May 2023 00:00:00 -0400

Chris and Tracy continue their conversation with Pastor Sean Seay of Athens Church. Sean’s story is needed to be heard in today’s audience of leaders. He spoke in the previous episode about deep wounds he carried—and each leader carries—into ministry. He now brings listeners back to this important question: “What’s it like to be on the other side of me?” All real growth begins with self awareness. Brokenness will hurt the people leaders serve and love. But what can be done about those wounds and unhealthy tendencies? Sean took a sabbatical, stayed away from church events, and began counseling intensive. That season moved him toward a healthy soul. His honesty invites leaders to be still, to hit pause, to deal with addictive tendencies, to change diets and schedules, to view life holistically. Lead with a healthy you!

https://athenschurch.com
Twitter - @seanseay
Instagram - seanseay
Ruthless Elimination of Hurry - John Mark Comer book - HERE
Robb Reimer - Soul Care book - HERE
Soul Keeping - John Ortberg book - HERE

Interview with Sean Seay, Part 1 - Season 3, Episode 11

Thu, 11 May 2023 00:00:00 -0400

Sean Seay, the Lead Pastor of Athens Church, is this week’s guest on Next Step Leadership. Sean’s story, wisdom, and leadership role all make him a great voice for this podcast’s audience. He tells about his journey, inviting listeners to his narrative. He grew up in a broken home, knew very little about Christianity, found Jesus during his college years, and became involved with the discipleship ministry of Andy Stanley. After seminary, Sean moved back to Georgia and became involved in Northpoint Church, eventually accepting his role to start Athens Church. Sean and his team wake up thinking about the people who are “not there yet.” They also see leadership health and soul care as crucial. Years of the past are still influencing each person. Hear his story. Learn from his heart. Find practical ways to apply principles from Sean Seay.

https://athenschurch.com
Twitter - @seanseay
Instagram - seanseay
Ruthless Elimination of Hurry - John Mark Comer book - HERE
Robb Reimer - Soul Care book - HERE
Soul Keeping - John Ortberg book - HERE

Interview with Tim Lamb, Part 2 - Season 3, Episode 10

Thu, 04 May 2023 00:00:00 -0400

This week’s episode continues the conversation Chris and Tracy have with Bishop Tim Lamb, the LifePoint Conference Superintendent of the International Pentecostal Holiness Church. Bishop Tim Lamb‘s care for people continues coming out as he tells his stories and offers his wisdom. He is a wonderful example of deep love for people in these difficult days. Any day can be a life-changing day. Every day is important. Life is uncertain. Are we balancing our hard work with healthy rest? How is the stress of leadership affecting our health, our relationships, our spiritual development? Bishop Lamb provides suggestions for others to live better lives. Have you taken a sabbatical? Do you have true friends holding you accountable? Are you getting enough rest? What day do you take off? Think about each comment and each question. Decide what you can do to serve and lead with better health.

https://lifepointministries.org/leadership-team/
Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/tim.lamb.56
Twitter - https://twitter.com/TimLPMinistries

Interview with Tim Lamb, Part 1 - Season 3, Episode 9

Thu, 27 Apr 2023 00:00:00 -0400

Bishop Tim Lamb has served in pastoral ministry and denominational leadership. His experience, his spiritual maturity, and his compassion for people are clear in this episode of Next Step Leadership. There are many areas Bishop Lamb can discuss and offer wisdom. But before hearing his insights on leadership, Tracy and Chris asked Tim to tell his stories. And in his 34 years of pastoring, he has many stories. Can someone who grows up with a speech impediment serve as a pastor and a preacher? How does Bishop Lamb offer true pastoral care to today’s leaders? What did he love most in his years as a lead pastor? How did he respond to his heart attack? How did this change his lifestyle and his perspective? What lessons is he teaching others from his own difficulties? Learn from Bishop Lamb about equilibrium and refusing to do too much. Find people to lead and trust them.

https://lifepointministries.org/leadership-team/
Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/tim.lamb.56
Twitter - https://twitter.com/TimLPMinistries

Interview with Rebecca Keener, Part 2 - Season 3, Episode 8

Thu, 20 Apr 2023 00:00:00 -0400

Chris Maxwell and Tracy Reynolds continue listening to the inspirational words of author, tv show host, and minister Rebecca Keener. Rebecca is a humble servant who has written creative, practical stories for receiving God’s supernatural strength every day of the year. In this episode, she talks about her latest book, “Holy Spirit 365.” Much of her book was written in a hospital waiting room. She offers reminders too often forgotten by leaders working too hard in their own strength to accomplish God’s plans. The book’s chapters reveal to readers about the Holy Spirit in Scripture, encouraging words and prayers, and the ongoing miracle of God’s presence with us. Are we leading with that awareness? Can we live, and lead, knowing the Holy Spirt is at work in us and through us? Rebecca believes we can.

Rebecca's Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/rebecca.keeneralwaysmoretv

Holy Spirit 365 Book - HERE

Marvelous Madness of Motherhood - https://www.truepotentialmedia.com/rebecca-keener/

Interview with Rebecca Keener, Part 1 - Season 3, Episode 7

Thu, 13 Apr 2023 00:00:00 -0400

Author and minister Rebecca Keener is this week’s guest in Next Step Leadership. Tracy and Chris loved their conversation with Rebecca as she tells her story. This narrative is a wonderful reminder of how God is at work in inviting people to be willing to obey Him. Listen to their laughter, their stories, and what Rebecca is offering to her audience these days. Like her encouraging voice, her words insure today’s confused audiences to believe and endure the journey. Throughout Scripture, church history, and our personal relationships, God is offering hope. Leaders should receive that amazing hope and pass it along to those who follow Him. Like Rebecca, think back about your story. What has God said to you? What is He saying now? How can you respond? How can the Holy Spirit empower your leadership?

Rebecca's Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/rebecca.keeneralwaysmoretv

Holy Spirit 365 Book - HERE

Marvelous Madness of Motherhood - https://www.truepotentialmedia.com/rebecca-keener/

Interview with Rick Womack, Part 2 - Season 3, Episode 6

Thu, 06 Apr 2023 00:00:00 -0400

The numbers grab our attention. The stories concern us. What stories? Why do those numbers grab our attention and concern us? This episode talks about people, about pastors, about families, about churches. In Next Step Leadership, Chris and Tracy engage in a conversation about these issues. But they are not just discussing the facts and trends. They invited their friend Rick Womack to tell his story. Listen. Please listen to Rick’s story. Pastoring is an honor and it should be seen as such. But serving in ministry is not easy. It offers wonderful experiences while also bringing the reality of how people who love deeply are also hurt deeply. What can we learn from stories like Rick’s? How can we be here to offer listening ears, loving hearts, and practical therapy for ministers who are carrying a heavy weight? Dreams do not always go the way we wish. They might die. Hurts are deep. Counseling and friends are important. Rick talks about how God and His people can help us endure. Let’s believe God and His people can help us all find peace.

Rick's Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/rickwomack

Jonathan Martin The Road Away From God - HERE

Interview with Rick Womack, Part 1 - Season 3, Episode 5

Thu, 30 Mar 2023 00:00:00 -0400

Interview with Jason McCary, Part 2 - Season 3, Episode 4

Thu, 23 Mar 2023 00:00:00 -0400

This week’s episode is the second conversation Tracy and Chris have with Jason McCary. Jason, again, is very honest. He offers practical ideas. He tells stories. But he not only tells stories, Jason offers the honesty desperately needed among today’s leaders and learners. All three of these men serve in roles where they help mentor and encourage the next generation of leaders. Jason has both the gifts and the heart to do that. As you hear him talk, you will hear that heart. Working with pastors, leaders, students, and people in various roles, Jason offers his time. Isn’t that needed today? We are bombarded with policy and procedure, but desperate for relational leadership where mentoring time is valued and seen as a priority. Jesus calls us to follow Him, not as spectators but as servants. Christ invites us to come low, to serve, to wash the feet of those around us, to listen, to love. Will we serve that way? Will we lead that way? Jason invites us to. He believes we can.

Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/jason.mccary.73
Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/jrmccary/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y%3D

Interview with Jason McCary, Part 1 - Season 3, Episode 3

Thu, 16 Mar 2023 00:00:00 -0400

In this week’s conversation, Tracy Reynolds and Chris Maxwell talk to their friend Jason McCary. Jason has served in pastoral ministry and as a college professor. Next Step Leadership hopes to always bring stories, ideas, and encouragement to others in various ministry or business roles. Jason’s does that as he offers thoughts for today’s leaders. His story reminds listeners that each story is different, each story is important, and each story continues the adventure of life. Jason is very talented in various ways and understands what is needed in today’s schools and churches and businesses. He is also vulnerable. His honest confessions invite us to move forward. Amid the fast pace, among the division, along the difficult paths, can we remember God’s nearness? What lessons can you learn from Jason’s story? How has God’s Holy Presence touched your life as Jason explains happened in his life? What next steps should you take to follow Jason’s ideas and guidance? Who should you invite to travel with you? Who could you call at 4am? Listen to the stories and learn.

Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/jason.mccary.73
Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/jrmccary/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y%3D

Interview with Doug Beacham, Part 2 - Season 3, Episode 2

Thu, 09 Mar 2023 00:00:00 -0500

Chris Maxwell and Tracy Reynolds continue their conversation with Dr. Doug Beacham, General Superintendent of the International Pentecost Holiness Church. Through Dr. Beacham’s biblical knowledge and ministry experience, he offers deep and practical wisdom for Next Step Leadership‘s audience. As you listen to his story about those leaders who helped prepare him for ministry, think about yourself and your ministry team. What is Bishop Beacham saying to you? Who taught, and continues teaching you? Who is encouraging you? How are you encouraging others? Who are you mentoring? Who is mentoring you? Is your schedule healthy? What can you do differently?

Linked In: https://www.linkedin.com/in/doug-beacham-ab82364b/
Twitter: https://twitter.com/dougbeacham
IPHC: https://iphc.org/gso/bishops-office/

Interview with Doug Beacham, Part 1 - Season 3, Episode 1

Thu, 02 Mar 2023 00:00:00 -0500

Tracy and Chris are honored to have Dr. Doug Beacham on the Next Step Leadership Podcast again. The previous interviews with Bishop Beacham are some of the most popular of all of their episodes. Last year Dr. Beacham was chosen to continue serving as General Superintendent of the International Pentecost Holiness Church. Through that role—and his many years of pastoring, teaching, writing, preaching, and leading in a variety of positions—Doug has found great wisdom to endure the responsibilities of a leader. His knowledge of history, theology, literature, and church culture provide a needed perspective for today’s leaders. Those given opportunities by God to serve in His kingdom should remember the value of their calling.

Linked In: https://www.linkedin.com/in/doug-beacham-ab82364b/
Twitter: https://twitter.com/dougbeacham
IPHC: https://iphc.org/gso/bishops-office/

Interview with Holly Goddard, Part 2 - Season 2, Episode 52

Thu, 23 Feb 2023 00:00:00 -0500

Chris and Tracy continue their conversation with Holly Goddard. She grew as a leader through endurance and community. Please listen to her story. Your inner life is more important than your outward ministry. Refuse to try to control outcomes. Take a low place and let God craft your story. Ask yourself questions as you process what you hear. How have you been shaken in life and ministry? When have you wanted to quit? How can her story inspire and direct you in your journey? What thoughts challenge you to take healthy steps for your personal life, your family, and your ministry? Listen, ask questions, pursue healing, love being with Jesus, and watch for God to craft your story.

Linked In: https://www.linkedin.com/in/holly-goddard-b379635/
Twitter: https://twitter.com/hollybgoddard
FaceBook: https://www.facebook.com/holly.goddard.14/

Interview with Holly Goddard, Part 1 - Season 2, Episode 51

Thu, 16 Feb 2023 00:00:00 -0500

Tracy Reynolds and Chris Maxwell take time in this episode of Next Step Leadership to interview Holly Goddard. Holly did not plan to pursue ministry but academics and athletics taught her many lessons through sports marketing. After resisting God for so long, Holly grew into a deep relationship with Jesus. Through that personal experience, she realized how a life with Christ can transform her. She then moved from sports marketing to children’s ministry, and now serves as executive pastor at her church. Her story reveals how growing spiritually depends on healthy relationships and accountability. Holly is honest about her own struggles, and how the grace of God and His people moved her toward freedom.

Linked In: https://www.linkedin.com/in/holly-goddard-b379635/
Twitter: https://twitter.com/hollybgoddard
FaceBook: https://www.facebook.com/holly.goddard.14/

Interview with Justin Kendrick, Part 2 - Season 2, Episode 50

Thu, 09 Feb 2023 00:00:00 -0500

In this episode, pastor and author Justin Kendrick continues talking about his book The Sacred Us: A Radical Call to Christian Community. Chris and Tracy love hearing Justin tell stories about how he and his church have lived out the true calling of Christlikeness. You will love learning from his comments also. He offers more than correction and rebuke for areas the church has failed. Many people are doing that these days. No, Justin offers principles of how the church can truly live as a sacred, kind, serving community. Peoples lives will be changed. People will realize they are loved by others and by their Creator. The complicated community of church can be a family of peace and transformation.

ABOUT JUSTIN KENDRICK:

Justin Kendrick is the co-founder and lead pastor of Vox Church in New Haven, Connecticut. Launched in 2011 with a mission to see New England transformed from the least-churched region in the U.S. to the most spiritually vibrant place on earth, the church was initially planted near Yale University and now has nine campuses throughout the Northeast. Kendrick, a husband and father of four children, is also the author of “Bury Your Ordinary: Practical Habits of a Heart Fully Alive,” published last year by David C Cook.

The Sacred Us - https://www.amazon.com/Sacred-Us-Radical-Christian-Community/dp/0830784489

JUSTIN SHARES ABOUT ‘THE SACRED US’: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ponRaKiIlUI

THE STORY OF VOX CHURCH: https://www.dropbox.com/s/78a265prxbfgpjs/Vox%20Church%20Video%20trial%202.mov?dl=0

JUSTIN KENDRICK SERMON CLIPS: https://www.dropbox.com/s/dtl3a3pc2r5wh94/Sermon%20Reel%20-%20FINAL.mp4?dl=0

Interview with Justin Kendrick, Part 1 - Season 2, Episode 49

Thu, 02 Feb 2023 00:00:00 -0500

Welcome to this week’s conversation with Tracy Reynolds and Chris Maxwell. In this episode they interview author and pastor Justin Kendrick. Justin’s latest book is a perfect fit for Next Step Leadership Podcast. The Sacred Us: A Radical Call to Christian Community reveals how the New Testament church can be like a family of those being transformed into Christlikeness. Justin tells his story. What and who connected him to the Way of Jesus? How did his early experiences miss out on inviting him toward true Christian community? What has helped him learn and apply that in his own life and ministry? How can more of today’s leaders learn and apply from Justin?

ABOUT JUSTIN KENDRICK:

JUSTIN SHARES ABOUT ‘THE SACRED US’: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ponRaKiIlUI

THE STORY OF VOX CHURCH: https://www.dropbox.com/s/78a265prxbfgpjs/Vox%20Church%20Video%20trial%202.mov?dl=0

JUSTIN KENDRICK SERMON CLIPS: https://www.dropbox.com/s/dtl3a3pc2r5wh94/Sermon%20Reel%20-%20FINAL.mp4?dl=0

Interview with Jonathan Bryan, Part 2 - Season 2, Episode 48

Thu, 26 Jan 2023 00:00:00 -0500

Chris and Tracy continue their conversation with Jonathan Bryan in this week’s Next Step Leadership. Jonathan is a young leader who decided to love others even though love often hurts, and to minister even though ministry is often painful. Listeners will notice how excited Tracy and Chris sound as they hear about Jonathan‘s six years of ministry. Jonathan continues offering suggestions on working to find the right ones to learn discipleship from, and how to begin mentoring others. His suggestions are important and practical: Control the controllable, prepare yourself for whatever future God might have for you, connect with the right people, develop a willingness to be a people person even if you are a natural introvert, and realize God will lead you toward a place where you can’t see the full picture. Jonathan encourages listeners to be humble servants driven by love and obedience, but distinguished by character, courage, and influence.

DiscipleLead Podcast:
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/disciplead-podcast/id1565748498

Interview with Jonathan Bryan, Part 1 - Season 2, Episode 47

Thu, 19 Jan 2023 00:00:00 -0500

Chris Maxwell and Tracy Reynolds love each conversation they have in Next Step Leadership. They especially enjoy dialogues like this one with Jonathan Bryan in today’s episode. Chris and Tracy met Jonathan when he was a college student. Now they continue to smile as they watch Jonathan grow and develop in his ministry. Jonathan tells his story about life as a preacher’s kid, regular involvement in church, multiple generations of those who loved Jesus, calling into ministry, commitment during high school years, college life at Emmanuel, his present ministry vocation, and how he’s continued living committed to Jesus. As Jonathan mentions various mentors who directed him through the years, those listening should realize we each need the right mentors in our lives—and we all must see leadership as mentoring others.

DiscipleLead Podcast:
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/disciplead-podcast/id1565748498

Interview with David Docusen, Part 2 - Season 2, Episode 46

Thu, 12 Jan 2023 00:00:00 -0500

This week’s episode of Next Step Leadership podcast continues a conversation Tracy and Chris had with author David Docusen. David’s hope of breaking cycles of poverty comes out in his words written and spoken. That hope is revealed in his actions. He doesn’t just write it or preach it. He has not let his research be the end of the story. His desire to start holistic communities begins with the heart of Jesus and becomes actions. Can’t we be disturbed with what disturbs God? Can’t we be bothered by what bothers God? Can’t we each use our gifts for the betterment of our community? David believes so. Listen to his heart. Learn from his story. Lead and love like Jesus. People are waiting for that type of love.

David's Webpage:
https://daviddocusen.com/

Neighborliness Book
https://www.amazon.com/Neighborliness-Jesus-Dividing-Transform-Community/dp/0785289283/ref=sr_1_1?crid=35LQ2946QOL2Y&keywords=david+docusen&qid=1672690546&s=books&sprefix=david+docusen%2Cstripbooks%2C86&sr=1-1

Interview with David Docusen, Part 1 - Season 2, Episode 45

Thu, 05 Jan 2023 00:00:00 -0500

Chris Maxwell and Tracy Reynolds welcome you to the first podcast of 2023. Thank you so much for listening again. Thanks so much for passing this along to others. Please begin the new year claiming to regularly hear the podcast, subscribe, share, and find ways to apply the principles talked about in each podcast. Today, author David Ducusen joins Chris and Tracy and tells some of his story. David’s book Neighborliness brings a deep heart of love and care during a season of division and hate. How can today’s leaders show neighborliness? How did David learn the importance of that lifestyle? What does Jesus want leaders to do during this season? How can individuals and teams learn from David‘s story and climb a better ladder rather than today’s model of church shows and numbers?

David's Webpage:
https://daviddocusen.com/

Neighborliness Book
https://www.amazon.com/Neighborliness-Jesus-Dividing-Transform-Community/dp/0785289283/ref=sr_1_1?crid=35LQ2946QOL2Y&keywords=david+docusen&qid=1672690546&s=books&sprefix=david+docusen%2Cstripbooks%2C86&sr=1-1

Chris & Tracy's New Years Podcast - Season 2, Episode 44

Thu, 29 Dec 2022 00:00:00 -0500

Welcome to Next Step Leadership and welcome to 2023. As one year ends and the new year begins, Chris and Tracy offer their thoughts on this final episode of Next Step Leadership in 2022. They review stories from the year, remembering the honor of engaging in conversations with a variety of authors, singers, and leaders. Which podcasts of this year have you enjoyed the most? What did you learn from the Next Step Leadership podcasts? How can you apply what you’ve learned? What do you need to release? What is something new you need to try? Do you have healthy relationships? How can you improve the person and leader that you are? How can you end 2022 in a healthy way? How can you enter 2023 with new hopes and fresh dreams?

Interview with Michael Stewart - Christmas! - Season 2, Episode 43

Thu, 22 Dec 2022 00:00:00 -0500

Merry Christmas and welcome to this episode of Next Step Leadership. Tracy and Chris hope you will have a joyful Christmas season. To help with that, they are excited to interview their friend Michael Stewart. Dr. Stewart is a pastor and author, and previously worked with Tracy and Chris at Emmanuel College when he served as President. He wrote the devotional book Journey to Christmas which guides readers through the advent adventure. Instead of Christmas being a destination, Mike invites listeners to see the season as a journey. The whole biblical story of Christmas is a journey. Shouldn’t it be that for us? A ancient but new story. Listen to Mike’s words. Read the Journey to Christmas. Choose to remember the meaning of those ancient stories and receive again the love of Jesus.
https://mikestewart.org/
https://www.truepotentialmedia.com/product/journey-to-christmas/

Interview with Cheryl Bridges Johns, Part 2 - Season 2, Episode 42

Thu, 15 Dec 2022 00:00:00 -0500

Chris and Tracy continue their conversation with Cheryl Bridges Johns. Cheryl is an author, professor, and minister. Her words are crucial for today’s leaders. She sees what many fail to notice. She states what is often kept silent. Cheryl believes the need for discipleship can only be met through scriptural study. Her writing brings a method of study often neglected. She guides listeners through the healthy learning process. That reasoning is vital for our modern spiritual family. Hear her thoughts. Receive her wisdom. Discover what the Bible is really saying. Embrace the Word and the Spirit. Welcome the opportunity to change our world through each step you are taking. Know God is with you.

Cheryl's Website:
https://cherylbjohns.com/

Interview with Cheryl Bridges Johns, Part 1 - Season 2, Episode 41

Thu, 08 Dec 2022 00:00:00 -0500

December is an important month to remember Jesus and His love for all people. In this week’s conversation, Tracy Reynolds and Chris Maxwell listen to Cheryl Bridges Johns—someone who displays deep care for people. Her years of serving in the academic and church world offer much wisdom in applying what we say we believe. God often gets in the way to guide us in seasons of uncertainty. He wants us to work out our kingdom calling, rather than being controlled by worldly models of success. Cheryl’s words bring better sight for the work of the Kingdom as the Holy Spirit rescripts our stories.

Cheryl's Website:
https://cherylbjohns.com/

Interview with Warren Maye, Part 2 - Season 2, Episode 40

Thu, 01 Dec 2022 00:00:00 -0500

In this week’s Next Step Leadership podcast, Chris and Tracy invite listeners to join them as they continue learning from Warren Maye. To lead, we must learn. To learn, we must listen. Warren, an author and editor who serves with The Salvation Army, is a leader to learn from. He has found hope and opportunities through difficulties. He truly lives and leads a “with Jesus” life—praying early each morning and seeking to lead others to live with Jesus whatever they might be facing. He begins and ends his days in prayer. Warren provides biblical, practical, and vital insight to live the “ministry of presence” as he looks back at the past and glances ahead into the future. Don’t take anything for granted. Nothing the Lord has put in your hand is useless. Ask yourself, “What’s in my hand?”

Linked In:
https://www.linkedin.com/in/warren-maye-b-f-a-m-a-25a4a111/

Twitter: https://twitter.com/warrenmaye

Books on Amazon:
https://www.amazon.com/Books-Warren-L-Maye/s?rh=n%3A283155%2Cp_27%3AWarren+L+Maye

Interview with Warren Maye, Part 1 - Season 2, Episode 39

Thu, 24 Nov 2022 00:00:00 -0500

For the Thanksgiving Day episode of Next Step Leadership, Tracy Reynolds and Chris Maxwell interview Warren Maye. Warren is an author and editor who serves with The Salvation Army. He tells his story, revealing how God has worked through good and difficult times to guide him where he is now. Like many people, Warren remembers painful chapters in his life. But he has found hope amid the conflict, freedom and unity through the division, and love despite the hate. As Warren guides you through his narrative, remember your years of learning and developing. What hurts from the past do you still feel? What hopes have you found through the scars? How can you serve others like Warren and like Jesus?

Linked In:
https://www.linkedin.com/in/warren-maye-b-f-a-m-a-25a4a111/

Twitter: https://twitter.com/warrenmaye

Books on Amazon:
https://www.amazon.com/Books-Warren-L-Maye/s?rh=n%3A283155%2Cp_27%3AWarren+L+Maye

Interview with Derek Senestraro, Part 2 - Season 2, Episode 38

Thu, 17 Nov 2022 00:00:00 -0500

Chris and Tracy continue their conversation with Derek Senestraro. Derek’s wise perspective and caring heart come out in this conversation. Take time today to learn from his story—and tell your friends to listen to this conversation. Maybe listen together with a friend. Why? Because, as Derek reminds us, technology is important but it is not enough. Relationships are very important in our modern world where we are bombarded with technology. How important are online services? How crucial is the best available technology and equipment? What should be our true motives in worship? Is multi-track crucial? What about your church, your team, your life—what is really important? Does our live worship need to sound just like the album? Do we have to do just what others are doing? Again, listen and process Derek’s questions and ideas.

Derek's YouTube channel - https://www.youtube.com/user/dereksenestraro
Podcast-The Why of Worship - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-why-of-worship/id1472665384
Derek @ Sweetwater Music - https://www.sweetwater.com/derek_senestraro

Interview with Derek Senestraro, Part 1 - Season 2, Episode 37

Thu, 10 Nov 2022 00:00:00 -0500

Welcome to a new episode of Next Step Leadership. Derek Senestraro is this week’s guest. Derek has a wonderful history in music, worship, and technology, presently working with Sweetwater Music. Tracy and Chris love hearing Derek’s desire to help today’s leaders find the best way to reach their potential with the needed equipment but also by maintaining the ideal attitude. Derek’s personal story emphasizes the importance of healthy relationships. Not all decisions are easy. Doors open in unexpected ways. How can we be ready to serve and lead? When is it time to move on? How do we respond to church situations which cause hurt? Listen to Derek’s story and learn about clients, customers, and healthy relationships in today’s world of technology.
Derek's YouTube channel - https://www.youtube.com/user/dereksenestraro
Podcast-The Why of Worship - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-why-of-worship/id1472665384
Derek @ Sweetwater Music - https://www.sweetwater.com/derek_senestraro

Interview with Phil Cooke, Part 2 - Season 2, Episode 36

Thu, 03 Nov 2022 00:00:00 -0400

Tracy Reynolds and Chris Maxwell continue their conversation with Phil Cooke. Phil serves in a variety of leadership roles—filmmaker, media consultant, writer, and speaker. In this podcast, Phil brings more ways leaders can think creatively and practically. What is really needed? What can each of us do to be more effective? What is holding us back? How can leaders live while facing deadlines? Sundays come. Sermons need to be prepared. Meetings are called. A plan must be in place. Phil’s creative production company guides leaders through the process of facing deadlines, being fresh, and offering great ideas. We can all be creative—no matter our age or talent—if we choose to use that muscle.
https://www.philcooke.com
https://www.philcooke.com/podcast/
https://cookemediagroup.com

Interview with Phil Cooke, Part 1 - Season 2, Episode 35

Thu, 27 Oct 2022 00:00:00 -0400

In this episode of Next Step Leadership, Chris and Tracy enjoy an amazing conversation with filmmaker, media consultant, writer, and speaker Phil Cooke. Phil offers wisdom on leading creative people. Today’s leaders need to apply modern methods of learning, marketing, ministering, and mentoring. Through Phil’s wisdom and experience, he gives great insight on what works best in our busy society. How can we engage in this modern culture? How can we welcome people instead of driving them away? Media is a key part of how we lead. Phil’s production and consulting helps churches and ministries use media more effectively. Listen and learn, seeking to discern what works best for you and your team.
https://www.philcooke.com
https://www.philcooke.com/podcast/
https://cookemediagroup.com

Interview with Linda Gunter, Part 2 - Season 2, Episode 34

Thu, 20 Oct 2022 00:00:00 -0400

Chris Maxwell and Tracy Reynolds continue their conversation with Linda Gunter, of the ministry “Love Him Love Them.” As Chris and Tracy invite their audience to take the right steps of life—they hope we all hear the cries of the hurting, the forgotten, the neglected. Linda and her choir travel to sing and pray for their audiences. Her books offer stories of God doing what seems impossible. “Love Him Love Them” now have vocational schools, churches, orphanages, transition homes, and a hospital to train and help leaders change the world. Her book “Choir of Angels” tells stories of miracles God has done. Her obedience and faith can remind today’s leaders to believe what seems impossible will become realities. Miracles are on the way. Will we obey and do our part?
https://www.lovehimlovethem.org

Interview with Linda Gunter, Part 1 - Season 2, Episode 33

Thu, 13 Oct 2022 00:00:00 -0400

Linda Gunter is an author, speaker, and a servant leader seeking to change the world. She’s inviting many others to join her in this journey. As leaders of “Love Him Love Them” ministry, Linda and her husband have adopted children from Haiti and continue finding ways to offer help and supplies to forgotten people. She tells her story to Tracy and Chris, including her initial reluctance, hoping the leaders listening will learn from her willingness to obey God and do what seems impossible. What can we do to make a difference? What is holding us back? Will we lead by loving Him and loving them?
https://www.lovehimlovethem.org

Interview with Kevin Durham, Part 2 - Season 2, Episode 32

Thu, 06 Oct 2022 00:00:00 -0400

Chris and Tracy continue their conversation with Kevin Durham. Kevin’s story connects with so many people. His work and ministry reveal how creative minds and humble hearts are desperately needed in today’s culture. Listen to his story. Consider again the important question, “What is your story?” Think about your own story. How does your story help others know they belong and can believe in the Creator? What is receptive listening? What is the narrative of life? What is your brokenness? Where is your healing? Kevin helps the audience grasp how God can bring victory through fears and insecurities. Listen. Receive. And choose to believe your story is important.
https://thisismystory.org/podcast/
https://thisismystory.org

Interview with Kevin Durham, Part 1 - Season 2, Episode 31

Thu, 29 Sep 2022 00:00:00 -0400

Kevin Durham is a fascinating communicator, leader, film maker, and story teller. His own life journey has inspired Kevin to help others find their own stories. Tracy and Chris enjoy their conversation with him and believe you will also. Kevin created the film Miracle Matt, and connected to many athletes helping them see the transformation of lives through the love of Jesus. Films and stories open eyes and hearts. Kevin continues asking people, “What is your story?” As you listen to this podcast, realize your story is important. Churches and leaders can lead people into the story of what it really means to follow Jesus.
https://thisismystory.org/podcast/
https://thisismystory.org

Equilibrium for Groups - Season Two, Episode 30

Thu, 22 Sep 2022 00:00:00 -0400

In this episode of Next Step Leadership, Tracy and Chris talk about practical ways to help others find balance in the uneven surfaces of life—while also remembering to apply that themselves. Tracy has used the book Equilibrium to guide church leaders to learn and live the key elements of a better life. The book is available for today’s leaders. The stories and questions and guidelines offer peace during these difficult seasons of life. Rather than being victims of cultural conflict, leaders can choose to balance heathy responses to gain growth and development. Equilibrium brings peace and healing. Do not miss the opportunity to receive the biblical balance in these seasons of life.

Interview with Tres Ward, Part 2 - Season Two, Episode 29

Thu, 15 Sep 2022 00:00:00 -0400

In the second segment of their interview with Trés Ward, Tracy and Chris love continuing to hear his story. Leaders are bombarded with gifts and dreams and ideas, and they often unfortunately miss opportunities right beside them to serve others. Trés talks about finding his true life purpose means helping others find theirs. Trying to find what God is doing and how we can be a part of that. Trés asks others, “What is in your hands?” as he offers humble guidance. Leaders can serve well as they help that marriage of occupation and vocation. It is about much more than money and temporary pleasure. It is about serving others as we serve God. It is about not only knowing what we do but why we do that.

Interview with Tres Ward, Part 1 - Season Two, Episode 28

Thu, 08 Sep 2022 00:00:00 -0400

Tracy and Chris interview Trés Ward in this week’s episode of Next Step Leadership. Trés is a wonderful singer, musician, and teacher who has a heart for guiding the younger generation through these uncertain times. He presently serves as Assistant to the President and Director of Ministry Teams at Emmanuel College in Franklin Springs, Georgia. His story is a reminder that what we learn helps prepare us to serve in rolls of leadership we are not always expecting. We should not waste any opportunities to learn, grow, and prepare for where God is taking us. Trés leads with humility and compassion, and those traits are obvious as he tells his story.

Chris & Tracy - Fighting Loneliness in Leadership - Season Two, Episode 27

Thu, 01 Sep 2022 00:00:00 -0400

Chris Maxwell and Tracy Reynolds usually interview guests. In this episode, they engage in a conversation with each other. They review recent podcasts and invite people to pursue help when situations aren’t easy. How can leaders become better at dealing with sadness, hurt, anger, grief, and uncertainty? How can leaders pause and seek support? What is stopping us from aggressively and appropriately finding the help we need? Who do we have in our lives that truly want to know how we are doing and what they can do to help? Take time to listen to this podcast and also have a friend join you in a conversation after they listen. Make a commitment to be there to help one another. Let us not lead alone.

Interview with Kevin Bordeaux, Part 2 - Season Two, Episode 26

Thu, 25 Aug 2022 00:00:00 -0400

In their second interview with Pastor Kevin Bordeaux, Chris and Tracy appreciate the honesty as he tells his story. Many people in leadership are facing difficulties. Life is not always simple. Too many leaders lead in isolation. Kevin offers healthy insight through his experience and his wisdom. Stress, depression, burnout, anger, anxiety, and conflict are portions of today’s stories. How are you dealing with stress? Who are you talking to? Are you getting help? If not, why not? If so, where are you getting help? How is your family effected by your condition? How can you start a mental, emotional, and spiritual journey toward better health? For all leaders, the last few years have been difficult. For all leaders, pressure is real. Listen to Kevin’s thoughts, and learn steps you should take to make your next steps your best steps.

Interview with Kevin Bordeaux, Part 1 - Season Two, Episode 25

Thu, 18 Aug 2022 00:00:00 -0400

Pastor Kevin Bordeaux talks with Tracy and Chris about pastoral work, family, and leadership. Kevin tells about his life and ministry. His major spiritual transformation reveals a journey of growth and development, and his story reminds leaders how life includes wonderful experiences and also seasons of change. Through his heart and vision for church planting, Kevin planted a church with only a few people. Since that time, he has endured the thrill and uncertainty of pastoral work. Kevin is now serving in a church which is considered successful in today’s culture. But he knows the importance of mentoring, pastoral care, counseling, healthy grief, and teamwork. Learn from his story of gaining wisdom through questions, prayer, listening, guidance from others, and faith. “God is a better leader than I am a follower,” Kevin says. Listen to his story and learn what wise steps of faith you should take.

Interview with Jacob "Ten20" Thompson, Part 2 - Season 2, Episode 24

Thu, 11 Aug 2022 00:00:00 -0400

Chris and Tracy invite you to continue listening to Jacob TEN20 Thompson. Jacob is an author, poet, pastor, speaker, husband, and dad who lives with Friedreich’s Ataxia. He also lives with the love of Jesus giving him a hopeful destiny amid his physical struggles. Wise leaders recognize their weaknesses. Rather than denying their battles, they choose to respond like Jacob—choosing to believe God’s great work will occur through our weaknesses. You might not be facing a rare disease, but your dreams might be crushed like Joseph’s in the Bible. Through hardships, through suffering, through discomfort, Jacob TEN20 Thompson invites us all to believe God can speak through us.
https://www.ten20words.com
From Diagnosis to Destiny - https://www.ten20words.com/fdtd

Interview with Jacob "Ten20" Thompson, Part 1 - Season 2, Episode 23

Thu, 04 Aug 2022 00:00:00 -0400

Life does not always go the way we prefer. Disappointments appear. Disturbances occur. How do we respond? How should we? Jacob Thompson tells his story about God meeting us in times of weaknesses and questions. Jacob is the author of From Diagnosis to Destiny: Your Trials Aren’t Meant to Break You; They’re Meant to Make You—a book offering authentic faith during a major life struggle. He is also the founder and director of TEN20, using his speaking and writing skills to offer hope to people facing life’s difficulties. Listen to how God gave him hope amid his battle with Friedreich’s Ataxia. Learn how that applies to each of us, whatever our weakness.
https://www.ten20words.com
From Diagnosis to Destiny - https://www.ten20words.com/fdtd

Interview with Tim Elmore, Part 2 - Season 2, Episode 22

Thu, 28 Jul 2022 00:00:00 -0400

In the second conversation with author and leader Tim Elmore, Tracy Reynolds and Chris Maxwell ask a few questions and listen again in amazement to Tim’s inspiring wisdom. Tim goes into more details of his book The Eight Paradoxes of Great Leadership: Embracing the Conflicting Demands of Today’s Workplace. Each chapter from the book includes a case study. Readers and listeners can obtain valuable options on what steps to take through Tim’s eight paradoxes. Listen to the conversation. Read the book. Take notes. Lead with wisdom from Tim Elmore.
https://www.timelmore.com
The Eight Paradoxes of Great Leadership - https://www.timelmore.com/book
Sign up HERE for a free webinar for Tim's new book, A New Kind of Diversity on August 11th at 12:00 PM ET!!!

Interview with Tim Elmore, Part 1 - Season 2, Episode 21

Thu, 21 Jul 2022 00:00:00 -0400

Tim Elmore Is a well known leader, speaker, and author. His wisdom is an ideal fit for the Next Step Leadership podcast. Tracy and Chris ask Tim a few questions and his compassion comes with his responses. Churches, schools, and businesses need to hear Tim’s practical principles during today’s difficult seasons of life. Tim’s ministry, Growing Leaders, trains future leaders for these times. In this episode Tim shares his heart and a depth of practical ways to guide the younger generations. He reveals ways to lead during these days, from his book The Eight Paradoxes of Great Leadership: Embracing the Conflicting Demands of Today’s Workplace.
https://www.timelmore.com
The Eight Paradoxes of Great Leadership - https://www.timelmore.com/book
Sign up HERE for a free webinar for Tim's new book, A New Kind of Diversity on August 11th at 12:00 PM ET!!!

Interview with Eric Foster-Whiddon, Part 2 - Season 2, Episode 20

Thu, 14 Jul 2022 00:00:00 -0400

Chris and Tracy continue their conversation with international professor Eric Foster-Whiddon. With Eric’s learning and ministry experience, he has a compassion to serve deeply and train ministers to serve well. Today’s culture is desperate for artistic and intellectual leaders. Eric thinks biblically, academically, creatively, and as community. Tracy, Chris, and Eric invite leaders to make friendships a priority, and refuse to serve in isolation. Who are your friends? What keeps you from pursuing deeper relationships? Are you lonely? What can you do now to apply what Eric suggests? What can you do to help your future leadership become better?
https://www.efosterw.com
https://www.facebook.com/efosterw
https://www.linkedin.com/in/efosterw

Interview With Eric Foster-Whiddon, Part 1 - Season 2, Episode 19

Thu, 07 Jul 2022 07:00:00 -0400

Tracy and Chris are excited to talk with Eric Foster-Whiddon. Next Step Leadership continues inviting present and future leaders and learners who listen to others in their life journeys. Eric is today’s guest and brings ministry, music, and academic experience in the conversation. He’s a writer, thinker, and minister who hopes to see positive transformation in people of all ages and backgrounds. Eric tells his story as he’s finishing his doctorate degree in Scotland. He has learned from business models and biblical narratives to guide today’s learners.
https://www.efosterw.com
https://www.facebook.com/efosterw
https://www.linkedin.com/in/efosterw

Interview with Leonard Sweet, Part 2 - Season 2, Episode 18

Thu, 30 Jun 2022 00:00:00 -0400

Tracy and Chris listen again to the insight of author and thinker Dr. Leonard Sweet. Through Dr. Sweet’s creative, wise, challenging perspective, he continues daring and luring leaders toward what really matters. What does that mean? He points leaders to the cross. He reminds listeners to stay in love with Jesus. Len hopes each student he teaches falls more deeply in love with Jesus as he educates them. Can more of today’s leaders live with that goal? Sweet declares that his faith is becoming more simple while his theology is becoming more complex. He seeks to become more childlike in his faith while becoming more wise in his theology. He hopes we balance time in society and time in solitude. He dares us to include humor in our stories just as Jesus did. As we lead, can we make it all about Jesus and lead like Jesus? Dr. Sweet invites us to.
https://leonardsweet.com
Books by Len Sweet on Amazon
Preachthestory

Interview with Leonard Sweet, Part 1 - Season 2, Episode 17

Thu, 23 Jun 2022 00:00:00 -0400

Professor and author Leonard Sweet is the guest in this episode of Next Step Leadership. Chris Maxwell and Tracy Reynolds are honored with this opportunity to learn from Dr. Sweet. His books, sermons, teaching, and social media comments have motivated today’s leaders to think creatively and wisely. During these seasons of change, Len offers insight about modern trends, ancient values, and the right ways to respond. In a world of what he calls “erupting volcanos,” Len presents his perspective on not just being relevant but incarnating the gospel into whatever the culture is. Listen and learn how to be “in touch” with the culture and “in tune” with the Spirit.
https://leonardsweet.com
Books by Len Sweet on Amazon
Preachthestory

Interview with JJ Getz, Part 2 - Season 2, Episode 16

Thu, 16 Jun 2022 00:00:00 -0400

Tracy and Chris think and talk and dream together again with JJ Getz. In this second conversation, JJ offers insight from the younger generation. She tells stories about growing up as a pastor’s child. Her experience has given a great understanding of what it is like in small churches with very little help. As she talks about her father, her memories, her ideas, and her hopes, JJ believes leaders can serve a community rather than hoping the community serves them. She also emphasizes the value of teams, offering thoughts about healthy teamwork. This episode is another example of many voices of various ages learning, serving, and leading together.
JJ on LinkedIn
JJ on Twitter
JJ on Instagram
Six Types of Working Genius - Patrick Lencioni https://www.workinggenius.com

Interview with JJ Getz, Part 1 - Season 2, Episode 15

Thu, 09 Jun 2022 00:00:00 -0400

In this week’s Next Step Leadership podcast, Chris Maxwell and Tracy Reynolds interview JJ Getz—a young leader they have watched begin her journey of leadership. JJ is a voice today’s leaders need to hear. Her wise, creative mind, and her fresh ideas offer glimpses into what is needed in today’s culture. As time is traveling so rapidly, JJ believes humility helps us ask the right questions, partner with the right people for the right reasons, and choose to continue learning processes. Do we try new things? Are we willing to risk failure? How are we pursuing growth? JJ invites us to care deeply for people as we lead.
JJ on LinkedIn
JJ on Twitter
JJ on Instagram

Interview with Doug Bursch, Part 2 - Season, 2, Episode 14

Thu, 02 Jun 2022 00:00:00 -0400

In this episode of Next Step Leadership, Chris and Tracy continue their conversation about ministry with Doug Bursch. Doug is an author and pastor, and he again offers deep care for today’s leaders. Social media has helped create divisive, devouring conversations. Doug seeks to guide Christian leaders toward reconciliation. Is our only concern about being right? Or do we carry deep concern for showing the love of God as we lead? Relationships and ministry are damaged when we miss that calling into light—the light of reconciliation. This conversation is crucial, especially during the present tension of our times. Through technology and all methods, let us do what God has entrusted us to do.
https://www.fairlyspiritual.org
Doug on AMAZON
https://www.facebook.com/fairlyspiritual
Doug on Twitter

Interview with Doug Bursch, Part 1 - Season 2, Episode 13

Thu, 26 May 2022 00:00:00 -0400

Tracy Reynolds and Chris Maxwell welcome pastor, author, and speaker Doug Bursch to this podcast. Glancing into the future through the lens of the present, Doug talks about authentic pastoral ministry. There are more expectations than ever before of what a pastor should be and do. Those large and diverse expectations create a difficult climate for true ministry. Clergy and their families are suffering because of those high demands. Doug wants to partner with ministers to help them manage expectations better and find healthy priorities.
https://www.fairlyspiritual.org
Doug on AMAZON
https://www.facebook.com/fairlyspiritual
Doug on Twitter

Interview with Michele Pillar, Part 2 - Season 2, Episode 12

Thu, 19 May 2022 00:00:00 -0400

Chris and Tracy continue listening to singer and author Michele Pillar tell her story about when her life was tangled and how she finally became untangled. These days it is vital we learn from servant leaders like Michele. Healing comes through vulnerability, seeking help, receiving healing, and becoming untangled. She felt God had picked the wrong person. She never believed God could work through her again. She saw no hope. But God reunited and refurbished her to stop looking back and begin looking forward. Do you believe your best years are behind you? Do you feel you have failed too much? Seek God’s forgiveness and His love today. Believe He has a great future for you. Begin now to take the next step, believing this step will be your best one ever. As God untangles you, He will lead through you to help untangle others.
http://michelepillar.com
https://michelepillar.selz.com/categories
https://www.drphil.com/videos/three-time-grammy-nominee-michele-pillar-opens-up-about-her-life/

Interview with Michele Pillar, Part 1 - Season 2, Episode 11

Thu, 12 May 2022 00:00:00 -0400

In this fascinating episode of Next Step Leadership, Tracy and Chris interview award winning singer Michele Pillar. Michele’s story is important for leaders to hear during these days when headlines, churches, friendships, and families are impacted by choices. Though popular through her amazing voice, Michele held deep hurts. Those pains influenced her decisions. As she wrote about in her book Untangled and sings about in her album You Untangle Me, God can help us move from our past pains and find wonderful opportunities awaiting us. He can turn our mourning into dancing. Michele hopes each of us deal with deep hurts and receive God’s healing. If your life is tangled, take time to seek help from God and His people. Believe He will untangle you.
http://michelepillar.com
https://michelepillar.selz.com/categories
https://www.drphil.com/videos/three-time-grammy-nominee-michele-pillar-opens-up-about-her-life/

Interview with Dan Reiland, Part 2 - Season 2, Episode 10

Thu, 05 May 2022 00:00:00 -0400

Author and Executive Pastor Dan Reiland continues his guidance for today’s leaders. Chris and Tracy enjoy the insight Dan provides, especially during the complicated seasons for today’s churches, businesses, and relationships. Dan talks about key points from his book, Confident Leader: Become One, Stay One. What are legitimate or illegitimate sources of confidence? How is our definition of success different from God’s definition? What are healthy and biblical sources of confidence? Which approach should we take—humble confidence or confident humility? Dan offers answers to those and many other questions. His books bring practical depth to help leaders believe in others before those people believe in themselves.
https://danreiland.com
Twitter - @DanReiland
https://danreiland.com/books/confident-leader/
https://resources.12stone.church/resource/15117

Interview with Dan Reiland, Part 1 - Season 2, Episode 9

Thu, 28 Apr 2022 00:00:00 -0400

In this episode of Next Step Leadership, Tracy and Chris talk with author and leader Dan Reiland. Dan offers deep insight from his role as an Executive Pastor of 12Stone Church, and his many years in various leadership positions. He tells his story and talks about how we can become leaders and continue serving as leaders. The confidence that is needed too often becomes a roller coaster. Rather than basing confidence on things that are internal, leaders frequently shift confidence based on circumstances. Dan believes just because a leader doesn’t know what to do at a particular moment, that does not mean the leader doesn’t know what he is doing. Leaders can guide others with confidence even during these difficult times.
https://danreiland.com
Twitter - @DanReiland
https://danreiland.com/books/confident-leader/
https://resources.12stone.church/resource/15117

Interview with Jamie Cain, Part 2 - Season 2, Episode 8

Thu, 21 Apr 2022 00:00:00 -0400

As their conversation with Jamie Cain continues, Tracy Reynolds and Chris Maxwell think with Jamie about rejoicing well and grieving well. Many of life’s seasons are painful. Many are just what leaders are experiencing and enduring now. What can leaders learn? How can leaders respond? Leaders need honest, transparent, authentic friends. Leaders must not lead alone. Withdrawal is not the solution. Healing can come through writing, reading, and honest conversations. Shared pain and joy through Christ and His people offer leaders chances to guide others with the deep love of Jesus.
http://www.jamescain.wordpress.com
https://conversatio.org/?s=jamie+cain
https://www.facebook.com/IPHCMinistries

Interview with Jamie Cain, Part 1- Season 2, Episode 7

Thu, 14 Apr 2022 00:00:00 -0400

Chris and Tracy interview Jamie Cain in this episode of Next Step Leadership. Jamie talks about his vocational journey. Like many leaders, his story didn't go the way he expected. But his adventure has allowed Jamie to continue influencing the lives of others. His education and experience provide wisdom during these seasons of change. Many people are facing new seasons and new challenges. Leading and living well are important, especially during times of change. Jamie’s story offers needed insight on leading, leaving, and living well.
http://www.jamescain.wordpress.com
https://conversatio.org/?s=jamie+cain
https://www.facebook.com/IPHCMinistries

Equilibrium, Part 2 - Season 2, Episode 6

Thu, 07 Apr 2022 00:00:00 -0400

Tracy continues talking to Chris about his new book, Equilibrium: 31 Ways to Stay Balanced on Life’s Uneven Surfaces. Chris and Tracy focus on the meaning of the chapters, and offer thoughts on how these guidelines are vital for living and leading. How does your life need symmetry? What causes your own uneven surfaces? How can you better apply these “31 Ways to stay Balanced?” Think about the stories Chris wrote—a missionary considered too old to enter the field, a pastor who cares for people while getting no applause from crowds, lessons learned from deaths of family members and dear friends, how to forgive when emotions bombard us with hurt, and a story about Chris and a few cows. Pick up a copy of Equilibrium and read it with your friends. Talk about it. Ask questions as you choose to not live life alone. Guide those on your team to find balance, to apply biblical principles, and to live in the Divine Romance.
https://chrismaxwell.me
https://www.truepotentialmedia.com/chris-maxwell
https://chrismaxwell.me/blog

Equilibrium, Part 1 - Season 2, Episode 5

Thu, 31 Mar 2022 00:00:00 -0400

Tracy Reynolds turns this episode around and interviews Chris Maxwell, his co-host. Tracy asks Chris about his new book, Equilibrium: 31 Ways to Stay Balanced on Life’s Uneven Surfaces. This is Maxwell’s eleventh book and it offers honest stories, reflections, and steps for obtaining a better life amid all the chaos surrounding us. If leaders expect to lead well, they should first commit to living well. If leaders desire to guide others correctly, they must choose to find their own equilibrium. While living when so much around us seems out of balance, we can choose to live in peaceful places of assurance, harmony, comfort, and hope. Hear their conversation. Pick up a copy of Equilibrium. Process the thoughts, ask the questions, and live the lessons. Believe in what seems impossible and apply it by being faithful in small things. Stop for a moment and take a breath. Find the symmetry before trying to take your next step.
https://chrismaxwell.me
https://www.truepotentialmedia.com/chris-maxwell
https://chrismaxwell.me/blog

Interview with Tod Bolsinger, Part 2 - Season 2, Episode 4

Thu, 24 Mar 2022 00:00:00 -0400

Tracy Reynolds and Chris Maxwell continue their interesting discussion with author and pastor Tod Bolsinger. Tod serves as the Executive Director of Church Leadership Institute at Fuller Seminary, CEO of A. E. Sloan Leadership Company, and worked in pastoral ministry for many years. His heart beats for leadership development. In this conversation, Tod provides parts of his story about how leaders do not have to choose to endure their journeys alone. Leaders are to bring people together. Pastors must remember there is a God we love and there are people we love, and leaders are called to help those people be transformed. That happens as the leadership themselves—and their churches—are transformed.

https://www.fuller.edu/faculty/tod-bolsinger/
https://www.amazon.com/Books-Tod-Bolsinger/s?rh=n%3A283155%2Cp_27%3ATod+Bolsinger
https://www.aesloanleadership.com

Interview with Tod Bolsinger, Part 1 - Season 2, Episode 3

Thu, 17 Mar 2022 00:00:00 -0400

Chris and Tracy interview author and coach Tod Bolsinger. Tod has years of experience in pastoral and academic leadership, and he offers challenges for today’s learners. His books dare leaders to see how things are not just as they have always been. It is time for adjusting. It is time for learning. It is time for change. Tod addresses adaptive leadership, offering guidance on how to lead when there are no examples to follow. Instead of building church in our own image, we can relearn leadership. Leaders are formed in the process of leading. Listen to his honesty and his wisdom, and tell your friends about today’s podcast.
https://www.fuller.edu/faculty/tod-bolsinger/
https://www.amazon.com/Books-Tod-Bolsinger/s?rh=n%3A283155%2Cp_27%3ATod+Bolsinger
https://www.aesloanleadership.com

Interview with Russell Board, Part 2-Season 2, Episode 2

Thu, 10 Mar 2022 07:00:00 -0500

Russell Board is again interviewed by Tracy Reynolds and Chris Maxwell. He continues telling his story and inviting us all to take whatever next steps God would have us take. In addition to his global mission work, Russell is also an author of several books. He talks about his books, which are great for today’s leaders and learners. His latest book offers practical information. In 40 Days with Paul: Encountering The Risen Savior, Russell invites us to learn from Paul’s story of transformation, passion, persecution, and leadership. In spite of opposition and obstacles, Paul mentored others and looked ways to guide the next generation. Relationships make the difference. With God and with one another, value relationships as you lead and learn while taking your own next steps.
https://www.truepotentialmedia.com/russell-board
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/russell.board.3

Interview with Russell Board, Part 1-Season 2, Episode 1

Thu, 03 Mar 2022 00:00:00 -0500

Chris and Tracy enjoy their conversation with author and missionary Russell Board. His servant leadership style brings a fitting story to the ongoing dialogue in the Next Step Leadership podcasts. Russell talks about his personal narrative and his years bringing hope around the world. His first prayer to God, his decades of obedience, his ongoing relationships, his willingness to serve as a missionary, his books: Russell Board‘s story invites listeners to consider what next steps God has for them. Receive the global picture. Notice the need. Expand your vision. Listen, look, learn, and be willing to do what you should do to help others.
https://www.truepotentialmedia.com/russell-board
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/russell.board.3

Interview with Lee Grady, Part 2-Season 1, Episode 52

Thu, 24 Feb 2022 00:00:00 -0500

In this episode, Chris and Tracy continue talking to Lee Grady about discipleship and mentoring. The next step journey is not always easy, but we aren’t meant to endure this adventure alone. Lee tells us about his latest book, Follow Me: How to Make Disciples Like Jesus Did. The book is Lee’s life message on discipleship. His stories inspire today’s people to move back to the New Testament example of relationship based discipleship. Rather than focusing mainly on size of church attendance, can we choose to live and love and mentor like Jesus did? We must invest time and energy into those we seek to lead.
https://leegrady.com
https://www.christianbook.com/follow-make-disciples-way-jesus-did/9781636410586/pd/410585?event=ESRCN
https://www.facebook.com/lee.grady
https://twitter.com/LeeGrady

Interview with Lee Grady, Part 1-Season 1, Episode 51

Thu, 17 Feb 2022 00:00:00 -0500

In Episode 51 of Next Step Leadership, Chris Maxwell and Tracy Reynolds enjoy a conversation with Lee Grady. Lee desires to continue writing and leading with the hope of ministering and mentoring around the world. He defines discipleship as the process any Christian goes through to become a mature follower of Jesus. Those who become disciples are to then make disciples. We all need those who mentor us, fellow disciples, and those we are mentoring. This conversation with Lee offers practical input on how today’s leaders can live with that purpose: making disciples.
https://leegrady.com
https://www.christianbook.com/follow-make-disciples-way-jesus-did/9781636410586/pd/410585?event=ESRCN
https://www.facebook.com/lee.grady
https://twitter.com/LeeGrady

Interview with Philip Yancey, Part 2-Season 1, Episode 50

Thu, 10 Feb 2022 00:00:00 -0500

Chris and Tracy continue their conversation with best-selling author Philip Yancey. Philip tells more of the sad stories from his years growing up in a legalistic church and with a difficult home environment. Where the Light Fell, Philip’s latest book, is his memoir. And as he communicates in the book, and in all of his bestselling books, Phillip is honest in this podcast. How did Philip work to make amends for past hurts? What can we learn from his story? Are there people we need to forgive? Though church is a flawed community, and much more work needs to be done, Phillip offers his thoughts toward a season of healing.
https://philipyancey.com
https://philipyancey.com/books/where-the-light-fell-a-memoir
https://www.facebook.com/PhilipYancey/
https://twitter.com/philipyancey

Interview with Philip Yancey, Part 1-Season 1, Episode 49

Thu, 03 Feb 2022 00:00:00 -0500

Chris and Tracy are honored to interview best-selling author Philip Yancey. Philip’s latest book is his memoir titled, Where the Light Fell. The book describes how Philip endured difficult seasons, yet found biblical truth and faith through his painful experiences. Racism, fundamentalism, tension, questions, and many other segments of his life process taught Philip that even the things we most resent and regret can be used by God in a redemptive way. His story can help each listener go back and deal correctly with their wounds, and be led by God‘s love to endure with care and compassion.
https://philipyancey.com
https://philipyancey.com/books/where-the-light-fell-a-memoir
https://www.facebook.com/PhilipYancey/
https://twitter.com/philipyancey

Interview with Rebecca Shirey, Part 2-Season 1, Episode 48

Thu, 27 Jan 2022 00:00:00 -0500

In this podcast Chris and Tracy continue their conversation with Rebecca Shirey. Sight Unseen, Becky‘s book, offers a healthy perspective for discerning what God is doing in our lives and where He is taking us. Becky and her husband Lou have learned much through the years. Their hearts and their hopes are revealed in the book. Becky shares more of her story this week, revealing how God can do great work in those who are willing to see through the eyes of faith.
https://rebeccashirey.com
https://www.facebook.com/rrshirey/
https://www.linkedin.com/in/rebecca-shirey-173b8415
https://twitter.com/rrshirey

Interview with Rebecca Shirey, Part 1-Season 1, Episode 47

Thu, 20 Jan 2022 00:00:00 -0500

In Episode 47 of Next Step Leadership, Chris Maxwell and Tracy Reynolds talk to Rebecca Shirey. Her book, Sight Unseen, tells her story of how God comes to us in unexpected ways. Becky describes her life journey in this week’s podcast. Every leader has a story. Every learner has a story. Becky and her husband Lou are wonderful examples for today’s leaders. Hear her story and begin to notice the sight which has seemed impossible to see.
https://rebeccashirey.com
https://www.facebook.com/rrshirey/
https://www.linkedin.com/in/rebecca-shirey-173b8415
https://twitter.com/rrshirey

Interview with Mark Rutland, Part 2-Season 1, Episode 46

Thu, 13 Jan 2022 00:00:00 -0500

Dr. Mark Rutland, international leader and bestselling author, speaks again with Chris Maxwell and Tracy Reynolds in this episode of Next Step Leadership. Mark offers honest and needed thoughts from his years of service through leading. He provides lessons learned from the Old Testament stories included in his newest book “Of Kings and Prophets.” People live today with a fear of serving in leadership, and serving under unhealthy leaders. The call into leadership positions must be seen as a call from God. We should not forget that—especially during these days of division and deception and uncertainty. Since God offers us opportunities to serve, shouldn’t we obey? God places us in situations where we feel uncapable of leading well. Mark believes leaders are all called to fulfill their present position while learning everything they can learn about their next position. That perspective and his other honest advice offer help leaders make their next steps their best steps.

https://drmarkrutland.com/podcast/
https://drmarkrutland.com/blog/
https://drmarkrutland.com
https://thenicl.com
https://twitter.com/drmarkrutland
https://www.facebook.com/globalservants

Interview with Mark Rutland, Pt 1-Season 1, Episode 45

Thu, 06 Jan 2022 00:00:00 -0500

Tracy Reynolds and Chris Maxwell are honored to begin 2022’s Next Step Leadership podcasts with interviewing Dr. Mark Rutland. Mark has served in many leadership roles of pastoring, a college president, guiding a mission organization, and a bestselling author. People around the world hear and respect Mark’s voice. In this episode Chris and Tracy listen to Mark as he offers meaningful advice in these days of uncertainty. He believes leaders need to adjust to the idea that the easy rides and simple tasks are not part of the world we live in. He welcomes us to rough times, inviting us to see the opportunities before us. People need to see a captain on the bridge—especially when times are rough. Join Dr. Rutland as we all begin this New Year with new hopes and new goals.

https://drmarkrutland.com/podcast/
https://drmarkrutland.com/blog/
https://drmarkrutland.com
https://thenicl.com
https://twitter.com/drmarkrutland
https://www.facebook.com/globalservants

New Year's 2022-Season 1, Episode 44

Thu, 30 Dec 2021 00:00:00 -0500

Another year ends. Another year begins. Tracy and Chris continue their conversations, this time glancing back at 2021 and ahead at 2022. What lessons did we learn from the last few years, as difficult as they were? What dreams and hopes and prayers do we bring with us into a new year? What is the most important? How can we make 2022 a year of our best steps yet? How can we lead and help others take better steps this coming year? Chris and Tracy offer suggestions about what we need to continue doing, what we need to add, what we need to release, what we learn, and what we can do better this year than ever before. Refuse to carry into the new year what might hold you back. Dive into 2022 and pursue the right dreams the right way for the right reasons. And do not travel into this near year alone.

Christmas Episode 2021-Season 1, Episode 43

Thu, 23 Dec 2021 00:00:00 -0500

Yes, it is time to talk about the Christmas season. Tracy Reynolds and Chris Maxwell discuss this time of year—the memories, the hopes, the hurts, and the ideas on how to lead as December nears an end. As you listen, think about your Christmas memories. What are your favorite holiday songs? What experiences cause you to smile whenever you think about them? What disappointments feel more painful now? As leaders and lifetime learners, find fitting ways to offer time for the people you serve to celebrate, relax, and remember. Encourage them—and yourself—to rest in the assurance that Jesus, our true Leader, came to bring us life. Rejoice. Engage in conversations. Hear and sing the songs. Take pictures. And remember.
La Lumiere Bethlehem Morning CD
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Interview with Justin Reynolds, Part 3-Season 1, Episode 42

Thu, 16 Dec 2021 00:00:00 -0500

In the third episode with singer songwriter Justin Reynolds, Tracy and Chris continue enjoying their conversations. Justin knows about serving with a variety of leaders in the church culture, so he brings an honest perspective today’s leaders need to ask themselves and seek answers. With music such a key, inspiring, and, often, controversial role in today’s churches, that topic should be discussed. Tracy, Justin, and Chris discuss the unique space of worship music. Since that form exists for one key purpose, how can today’s leaders be sure to stay true to that single goal while guiding people of various backgrounds and personalities and preferences? Is worship about the quality of music or the purpose of guiding people toward God? Listen. Consider the questions and opinions. Discuss with your own leadership teams what can be done better in each next step of worship.

Casual Americans: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCu2WayIol1ousoImXjXT04g/featured

Interview with Justin Reynolds, Part 2-Season 1, Episode 41

Thu, 09 Dec 2021 00:00:00 -0500

Chris and Tracy continue their dialogue with Justin Reynolds. Justin’s song brings the intro and out-row in the podcast, and in today’s episode Justin tells more about his new music. The process, the work, the commitment, the dedication, the endurance: leaders need to learn from the work of musical art. Time must be invested in music, in ministry, and in all types of leadership. What needs improvement? What should be accepted? When do we move on? Like art and songs, today’s leaders must dream and work and take risks and experiment and enjoy. Let Justin’s music and story guide you as you guide others creatively. Give your gifts a chance to come out.
Casual Americans
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCu2WayIol1ousoImXjXT04g/featured

Interview with Justin Reynolds, Part 1-Season 1, Episode 40

Thu, 02 Dec 2021 00:00:00 -0500

Casual Americans
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCu2WayIol1ousoImXjXT04g/featured
Chris Maxwell and Tracy Reynolds interview Tracy’s son, Justin Reynolds. Justin’s music is playing to begin and end each podcast. He’s Tracy’s son and is a very talented musician, singer, and songwriter. As Coach TJ Rosene mentioned in Episode 38, leadership is more often an art rather than a science. Justin’s artistic talent allows him to lead in a variety of ways—from on stage in a church worship team, at home confronting or comforting a child, finishing songs for his new album, or learning to find joy in doing what he can do to make a positive difference. Listen and learn from Justin’s stories.

Interview with TJ Rosene, Part 2-Season 1, Episode 39

Thu, 25 Nov 2021 00:00:00 -0500

In Episode 39 of Next Step Leadership, Tracy and Chris continue their dialogue with Coach TJ Rosene, the men’s basketball coach at Emmanuel College and the Director of Coach Development at Point Guard College. Coach Rosene offers practical insight about leading others during these difficult times. He guides athletes and coaches toward victory on the court, but also off the court—dealing with the major issues of life. How are we encouraging others? Who are we learning from? Are we keeping the main thing the main thing? Whatever your role, God has you there to make an impact. Coach Rosene helps us be sure to make the right impact while not letting our joy to taken away.

Interview with TJ Rosene, Part 1-Season 1, Episode 38

Thu, 18 Nov 2021 00:00:00 -0500

Tracy Reynolds and Chris Maxwell invite you to listen in on their conversation with TJ Rosene, the men’s basketball coach at Emmanuel College. Coach Rosene brings valuable information for all leaders through his years of coaching, speaking, and guiding young leaders. He impacts people, offering a much needed perspective of how to win in the game of life. On the court with his Emmanuel Lions, through his role as Director of Coach Development at Point Guard College, with his Hardwood Hustle podcast, and in his love as a husband and father, Coach Rosene reveals keys to the art of leadership.

Epilepsy Awareness Month - Chris Maxwell feature - Season 1, Episode 37

Thu, 11 Nov 2021 00:00:00 -0500

November is Epilepsy Awareness Month, so in this week’s podcast Doug Beacham and Tracy Reynolds interview Chris Maxwell about his personal story about a life changing experience. Do today’s leaders know the needs of those who battle epilepsy—or other health issues? Do our churches and businesses creative a climate that shows deep care of those people and their struggles? Chris offers suggestions of ways today’s leaders can lead others and let weaknesses become positives instead of negatives. Doug talks about how Chris became a different person through his illness and the long-term effects, while Tracy talks about this being the only Chris he knows. Tracy and Doug also talk about the many needs around them, and around us all. With the care of Jesus, we can love and lead people no matter what they struggle to overcome.

Doug Beacham Interview Chris & Tracy - Season 1, Episode 36

Thu, 04 Nov 2021 00:00:00 -0400

In the third episode of Tracy and Chris talking with Dr. Doug Beacham, they reverse roles. Bishop Beacham offered great wisdom and stories in the previous shows, but here he asks Chris and Tracy to offer their thoughts on what is needed in these times. What are the real issues of leadership the younger generation needs? What are the challenges they are facing? What can people do—or not do—to be more effective in leading our future leaders? Tracy and Chris offer their appreciation for those who have gone before them, and voice their beliefs in today’s young leaders. By caring for them, teaching them, training them, believing in them, mentoring them, and giving them opportunities to serve and lead (and fail), leaders can guide others on taking their place. By loving deep and learning much, opportunities are waiting.

Interview With Doug Beacham, Part 2 - Season 1, Episode 35

Thu, 28 Oct 2021 00:00:00 -0400

In Next Step Leadership’s episode 35, Chris and Tracy continue their interview with Dr. Doug Beacham. Bishop Beacham is the General Superintendent of the International Pentecostal Holiness Church. The conversation is for those who lead and serve in any area. Dr. Beacham has learned through the years that wherever God has sent us is where we should serve. Ministry is a part of life—if we choose to see from that perspective and believe we are making a difference. At the end of the day, he believes all that matters is that we are followers of Christ. The leadership of Jesus is the example we must follow. Dr. Beacham uses examples of those who spoke into his life at crucial times and reminds others how we can live—and lead—to one day hear from the cheering section of a great cloud of witnesses.

Interview with Doug Beacham, Part 1 - Season 1, Episode 34

Thu, 21 Oct 2021 00:00:00 -0400

Dr. Doug Beacham is the General Superintendent of the International Pentecostal Holiness Church. He offers great insight on leadership as he talks with Tracy Reynolds and Chris Maxwell in this episode of Next Step Leadership. Through Bishop Beacham’s decades of service in areas of pastoring, writing, speaking, and leading many people, he has led well. In this episode Dr. Beacham talks about discerning God’s direction, learning from others, and following the principles of Jesus. Just as his father steered his leadership development, Doug Beacham believes today’s leaders can gain God’s guidance while knowing each step of the pathway is important. He hopes today’s leaders make pathways for those who come after them.

Building Common Ground in Relationships - Season 1, Episode 33

Thu, 14 Oct 2021 00:00:00 -0400

In today’s episode of Next Step Leadership, Chris and Tracy invite leaders to listen in on one of their honest conversations with each other. They reveal their hopes and questions. They offer suggestions of how today’s leaders can actually learn leadership and life lessons from Jesus. Can leaders relax and unite? Can leaders intentionally develop relationships of growth and accountability? Can leaders actually have true friends? Yes, yes, and yes. Tracy and Chris believe by listening to Jesus and following Him, our next steps can actually be our best steps.

Interview with Nicole Unice, Part 2 - Season 1, Episode 32

Thu, 07 Oct 2021 00:00:00 -0400

This podcast of the Next Step Leadership invites leaders to hear the second episode of Tracy and Chris interviewing Nicole Unice. In this conversation, Nicole offers insight from her book, The Miracle Moment. She reveals how there are small moments in time when things can be different. In the complex culture of today, the work leaders do can feel daunting and overwhelming. It helps to know who we need to be and how can we become that person. Miracle moments are the very specific moments in time when we have felt frustrated and unsure, and instead of retreating or attacking, Nicole believes leaders can learn, and lead, well. Her thoughts inspire leaders to grow, develop, and lead others through life’s miracle moments.

Interview with Nicole Unice, Part 1 - Season 1, Episode 31

Thu, 30 Sep 2021 07:00:00 -0400

In this episode of Next Step Leadership, Tracy Reynolds and Chris Maxwell engage in a conversation with leader and life coach Nicole Unice. Nicole is the author of The Miracle Moment, a book fitting for the mood and theme of Next Step Leadership. She honestly addresses key topics. Can people really change? How can we get help when we seek change? What is self leadership? What is decision fatigue during these difficult seasons? Nicole provides practical insight to help leaders move into new realms of leadership.

Interview with Tony Vismor, Part 2 - Season 1, Episode 30

Thu, 23 Sep 2021 00:00:00 -0400

This is the second episode of Tracy and Chris enjoying their conversation with Tony Vismor, pastor of Grace Fellowship Church. Pastor Tony again offers powerful truth in practical ways. This present crisis is much more complicated than most expected—even leaders. Pastor Tony voices key points which helped him lead during this season of uncertainty, resistance, and confusion. Practical processes like the rhythms of life are needed so leaders can bring consistency during seasons of change. Instead of letting the frustration control us, leaders can leverage new structure to help them learn more, live well, and lead better. How can we take advantage of what’s been given us instead of living with a victim mentality? Hear Pastor Tony and take practical steps to bring stability during a season of instability.

Interview with Tony Vismor, Part 1 - Season 1, Episode 29

Thu, 16 Sep 2021 00:00:00 -0400

In this Next Step Leadership podcast Tracy Reynolds and Chris Maxwell talk with Tony Vismor, pastor of Grace Fellowship Church near Athens, GA. Tracy and Tony have served together for many years, and provide great examples of true leadership. Tony spent years working in a corporate leadership role when God revealed plans for ministry leadership. Listeners can learn much through Pastor Tony’s story about what he has learned about culture, church, and leading during crisis. Through it all, he is certain that God is faithful. Leaders can lead better when depending on a leader guiding others faithfully. Pastor Tony believes leaders must remember that relationships win the day. Listen and learn what that really means.

Interview with Dr. Ron White, Part 3 - Season 1, Episode 28

Thu, 09 Sep 2021 00:00:00 -0400

This episode of Next Step Leadership is the final part of Chris and Tracy’s interview with Dr. Ron White, the President of Emmanuel College. The story continues reminding leaders that miracles still happen in these days. Today’s leaders much believe that, and lead with deep assurance. If God can save Emmanuel College, God can guide leaders toward miracles in these uncertain times. Dr. Ron White‘s story about Emmanuel’s past and future, and his guidelines for leaders to pray first, pray through, and pray together.

Interview with Dr. Ron White, Part 2 - Season 1, Episode 27

Thu, 02 Sep 2021 00:00:00 -0400

Chris and Tracy continue their conversation with Dr. Ron White, the President of Emmanuel College. Dr. White’s story reveals the reality of how struggles are the very seasons leaders are assigned to guide their people through. During today’s seasons of uncertainty, Dr. White’s story about Emmanuel College needs to be heard by all present and future leaders. Good things came happen during uncertainty. Leading by example and caring for the people are essential components. Sharing is caring, as leaders reveal bad news while moving teams toward better days. Dr. White has done that and he wants leaders to point people toward God, tell them the truth, and move them toward a future of hope.

Interview with Dr. Ron White, Part 1 - Season 1, Episode 26

Thu, 26 Aug 2021 00:00:00 -0400

Tracy Reynolds and Chris Maxwell engage in a Conversation with Dr. Ron White, the President of Emmanuel College. Dr. White understands the importance of healthy leaders, investing his time in leading an institution preparing future leaders. Dr. White reminds listeners that miraculous stories often begin with tragedies. He begins telling the story of what his institution faced and how he was assigned to lead during a difficult season. God speaks, will we listen? God calls, will we obey? Dr. White, Tracy, and Chris hope today’s leaders understand that leading through life‘s storms is how the world can become better.

Interview with Aaron Maxwell, Part 2 - Season 1, Episode 25

Thu, 19 Aug 2021 00:00:00 -0400

Tracy Reynolds and Chris Maxwell continue their conversation with Aaron Maxwell in this episode of Next Step Leadership. Again, Aaron is honest about why he serves God even through life’s difficult times. He has found hope through seasons of pain and he seeks to help those he is mentoring to find that same hope. Listen to the conversation. Think about your own story. What can you learn from Aaron? How have you responded to life’s hurts and hopes, your talent and gifts, your struggles and questions, your desires and goals? We need to be honest, authentic and vulnerable. Will we? Will we seek a counselor when we need to? Will we cry when it is time? Will we learn from our pain? Chris and Tracy hope so. Those waiting for your leadership also hope so. You can make a positive difference. Do not miss the opportunities. Your story, like Aaron Maxwell’s story, needs to be heard. Your story will help others make the best of their stories.

Interview with Aaron Maxwell, Part 1 - Season 1, Episode 24

Thu, 12 Aug 2021 00:00:00 -0400

In Episode 24 of Next Step Leadership, Tracy and Chris invite Aaron Maxwell into their podcast conversation. Aaron and his family serve as leaders for the next generation in Dakar Senegal. Aaron tells the audience about his wife and three sons, their years of work, and why they serve in the role as dorm parents at a mission school. He reveals the importance of preparing young people for the future. Aaron confesses his own struggles and how God helped him release deep anger. By addressing his hurts and trusting the right leaders speaking into his life, Aaron found deep healing through God’s love. That took Aaron’s wounds and helped him see opportunities to bring hope to people around the world.

Being There For Others - Season 1, Episode 23

Thu, 05 Aug 2021 00:00:00 -0400

Welcome to Episode 23 of Next Step Leadership. Tracy and Chris continue their honest discussion. They have talked about mentoring and peace in the last two episodes, so in this session, they reveal how people mentored them. How did a leader help Chris find the true source of peace during difficult times? How did “time with” have more impact than “information provided?” God’s presence often brings peace as it works through other people. How do others help shift our perspective so we can see life better? Listen as Chris talks about Joe and Lee and others. Listen as Tracy offers ideas on how to welcome others into our lives. Today, sit at the table with a friend. Learn together, pray together, take next steps in life together.

Creating a Climate of Peace - Season 1, Episode 22

Thu, 29 Jul 2021 00:00:00 -0400

Chris Maxwell and Tracy Reynolds now offer Episode 22 of Next Step Leadership. They continue the conversation from their previous podcast when Tracy told an encouraging but sad story about a mentor in his life. Each person has an impact on other people. We can offer hope to those who hurt. We can provide a healthy perspective to offer inspiration to those around us. Chris talks about ways leaders can create a climate of peace during these seasons of confusion and uncertainty. Living with peace and leading with peace is possible as leaders understand that peace must not depend on external circumstances. People who walk beside leaders are key at helping find peace in today’s world. Listen to their stories and enter a new season of peace.

Mentors, Guides, and Coaches - Season 1, Episode 21

Thu, 22 Jul 2021 00:00:00 -0400

Welcome to another conversation of Tracy Reynolds and Chris Maxwell in their Next Step Leadership Podcast. In this episode Tracy and Chris are honest again. They invite you to join them in the adventure of grace as it relates to relationships. Too many people try to endure life’s seasons alone. Next Step Leadership welcomes servant leaders from all ages and backgrounds and locations to find true, deep friendships. Tracy tells a story about a true mentor who changed his life. What does it mean to be mentored, to be guided, to be coached by others? How can each person lead by being led? Listen in, thinking about who you meet with regularly and allow to be a true friend who helps you become the person you should be.

Hitting Pause to Live and Lead Well - Season 1, Episode 20

Thu, 15 Jul 2021 00:00:00 -0400

Chris Maxwell and Tracy Reynolds engage in a conversation about how leaders should not just seek to lead well, but to live well. In life’s busy schedule, a time to rest and reflect isn’t always easy to plan. It is essential, though. Maxwell’s four books in his “pause series” are examples of choosing to be proactive to read, reflect, write, think, pray, and notice the wonder nearby. Taking a week or a weekend or a day or an hour, leaders need a time of rejuvenation. Leaders can lead best when strengthened by the choice to hit pause. Listen in. Remember to prioritize your need for a sabbath of rest and renewal.

Learning and Leading Together - Season 1, Episode 19

Thu, 08 Jul 2021 00:00:00 -0400

Today’s leaders should not travel alone. It is better to endure the leadership adventure with friends. Tracy and Chris offer their thoughts on learning together. Their previous podcast conversations with Jon Campbell, Graham Maxwell, and Ron McCants are examples of learning from the stories of others. Leaders need plans, but leaders also need to make needed changes. Vision must include adjusting and adapting. New methods of leading can teach new lessons. As you take the next step and hope to make it your best step, remember the importance of time and trust. Invest time. Build trust. And take the next steps during this season of your leadership journey.

Interview with Ron McCants, Part 2 - Episode 18

Thu, 01 Jul 2021 00:00:00 -0400

Tracy Reynolds and Chris Maxwell continue their conversation with Ron McCants, and they invite others to listen in. As people hear, they’ll learn lessons on leadership from stories in Ron’s book. Ron tells more stories about lessons learned from war. Leaders can remember painful experiences. Leaders can cry. Leaders can talk about their pain. By doing so, others learn from those stories. What are the pains today’s people are facing? How can leaders help create safe places? Do leaders care enough to hear the painful stories of people they serve? Learn how to spend time to build trust and create an environment of unity in a community of pain.

Interview with Ron McCants, Part 1 - Episode 17

Thu, 24 Jun 2021 00:00:00 -0400

Chris and Tracy interview author Ron McCants in this episode of their podcast Next Step Leadership. Ron offers his wisdom through years of ministry and also from his service in the military. Ron’s new book, Vignettes From Vietnam, takes readers into the reality and redemptive message during a difficult time. As he tells his stories and responds to questions from Tracy and Chris, Ron inspires leaders to learn from their own seasons of various battles. We become who we are because of what we have experienced and how we have responded. Leadership principles are crafted and developed that way. So, listen in and notice your wars, your wounds, and what lessons you are learning to lead others better.

Intentional Growth Requires a Plan - Season 1, Episode 16

Thu, 17 Jun 2021 00:00:00 -0400

Episode 16 of Next Step Leadership offers leaders another chance to hear a conversation with Tracy Reynolds and Chris Maxwell. In the previous week they encouraged the audience to rest. This week they challenge listeners to not wait to see what happens, but to intentionally plan the future. Instead of viewing yourself as victims, see yourself as those who can take the initiative to lead well, to lead better, and to lead others for the best life possible. Instead of waiting to see what happens, be intentional. Plan, schedule, adjust, adapt, study, learn, budget, dream. Ask questions. Read books. Make choices. Believe that this is the day leaders are preparing for the future and shaping the future. Listen and prepare well to take your next step.

Pause: Rest & Reflect - Season 1, Episode 15

Thu, 10 Jun 2021 00:00:00 -0400

This week’s Next Step Leadership podcast allows audiences to listen in, hearing Chris Maxwell and Tracy Reynolds emphasize the importance of time to rest. Chris and Tracy want those around them to grow, to learn together, to find their true purpose in life. In your present role, do you realize how important your voice is? Are you aware that others are influenced by your leadership? During this summer, it helps to remember who we are and why we do what we do. Often, taking a time to rest and reflect can provide strength and encouragement. Listen to them, and learn to rest and receive new strength before rushing to take your next step.

Interview with Graham Maxwell, Part 2 - Season 1, Episode 14

Thu, 03 Jun 2021 00:00:00 -0400

Tracy Reynolds and Chris Maxwell again talk to Coach Graham Maxwell in today’s Next Step Leadership podcast. In this episode, Coach Maxwell offers key take away points about guiding the next generation of leaders. He tells about his years of playing basketball, and how he moved into coaching. His work speaking to young students and basketball players offers him opportunities educate them on leadership qualities. Are you giving all you can offer? Have you jumped into the deep end? Are you doing the best you can with what you know? Who is around you to help you endure difficult times? Consider those questions, and find ways you can help others learn to be their best.

Interview with Graham Maxwell, Part 1 - Season 1, Episode 13

Thu, 27 May 2021 00:00:00 -0400

Tracy Reynolds and Chris Maxwell continue their conversations on Next Step Leadership. In this podcast, they learn from Coach Graham Maxwell’s experience in guiding next step leaders through the sport of basketball. Coach Maxwell, who is the assistant men’s basketball coach at Emmanuel College and speaks for PGC (Point Guard College) Basketball, talks about what he’s learned as the father of two young daughters and the coach of many student athletes. He sees the importance of reminding those we lead of their worth and value. Those who follow learn from what leaders do, not only what leaders say. Leaders walk along with those they lead. Listen in and learn key lessons from a dad, a coach, a mentor, and a young leader.

Life-Giving Leadership Practices - Season 1, Episode 12

Thu, 20 May 2021 00:00:00 -0400

In this episode of Next Step Leadership, Tracy Reynolds and Chris Maxwell welcome leaders to listen in and learn key points about healthy and sustainable life-giving leadership practices. Do you rest enough? Are you enjoying life? How are you managing stress? Why do you do what you do? Their honesty and joy come out as their stories provide valuable boundaries and habits for today’s leaders. Listen and learn how to take your next steps in the best ways possible.

Discover, Develop & Deploy - Season 1, Episode 11

Thu, 13 May 2021 00:00:00 -0400

Tracy Reynolds and Chris Maxwell continue their Next Step Leadership conversation emphasizing the importance of influencing future leaders. This is the essential reason why Chris and Tracy do what they do each day. As you listen, their stories will remind and motivate you to take next steps by giving younger leaders meaningful opportunities to discover, develop and deploy their gifts to bring about positive change.

Interview with Jon Campbell, Pt 2 - Season 1, Episode 10

Thu, 06 May 2021 00:00:00 -0400

This episode continues the conversation Tracy Reynolds and Chris Maxwell had with author Jon Campbell. The honesty will help people face their own grief and find ways to properly deal with sadness. Jon reveals the second part of his book, which provides practical advice from Chris Maxwell, Dr. Blake Rackley, author Russell Board, Rebecca Shirey, and Whitney Davis.

Interview with Jon Campbell, Pt 1 - Season 1, Episode 9

Thu, 29 Apr 2021 00:00:00 -0400

Tracy and Chris continue there conversations in Next Step Leadership. In this episode they engage in conversation with their friend Jon Campbell about his new book, Room 6060. Jon’s book tells the story of his grandmother’s death, so Tracy and Chris ask Jon questions about her death and how he felt writing the book. Jon’s story offers hope to others as their hear this authentic dialogue about leaders facing grief in their personal and professional lives.

Seeing Obstacles as Opportunities - Next Step Leadership Podcast - Season 1, Episode 8

Thu, 22 Apr 2021 00:00:00 -0400

Next Step Leadership by Tracy Reynolds and Chris Maxwell continues in Episode 8. Your voice needs to be heard. You are important. Chris and Tracy want you to know that. To help you believe that, tell their own stories and offer ideas. They’ll help you learn how to adjust to change. And also how to bring needed changes. Taking the right steps during times of uncertainty, means seeing obstacles as opportunities. Even in the storms of life, learn from others as you seek to take the next step and lead others with you.

Moving On: Grieving with Grace - Next Step Leadership Podcast - Season 1, Episode 7

Thu, 15 Apr 2021 00:00:00 -0400

In Episode 7 of Next Step Leadership podcast, Tracy Reynolds and Chris Maxwell continue offering honest confessions and creative stories. As you move from where you have been to where you’re going in your next step, how can you be sure to grieve properly? Grief isn’t just related to death. We need to learn to grieve change, pain, disappointment, uncertainty. Leaders can grieve in healthy ways, helping others learn grace in grief. That is so important for leaders during these uncertain times. Listen to Chris and Tracy tell their honest stories.

Called Alongside to Help - Next Step Leadership Podcast - Season 1, Episode 6

Thu, 08 Apr 2021 00:00:00 -0400

In Episode 6 of Next Step Leadership, listen as Tracy Reynolds and Chris Maxwell enter the dialogue where they ended the last one. Their hearts are heard in their words, encouraging listeners to assist friends and coworkers. They tell stories—Tracy about music and Chris about carrying boxes during a recent move, and both about ministry leadership—about how others are living life beside each leader. Listen to their stories and questions.

What should you carry with you for your next steps?
What should you leave behind?

Continue learning as you lead.

Are You a Doer or a Leader? - Next Step Leadership Podcast - Season 1, Episode 5

Thu, 01 Apr 2021 00:00:00 -0400

Tracy Reynolds and Chris Maxwell continue their conversation about helping develop future leaders. They offer ideas. They ask questions.

Are you just a doer?
Or, are you a leader?
How can we all help mentor leaders for the future?

Listen to their stories. Consider their questions. Find young leaders. Offer them opportunities. Guide them and love them and lead them into their next steps in life, and do not lead alone.

What's Going On...Really? - Next Step Leadership Podcast - Season 1, Episode 4

Thu, 25 Mar 2021 00:00:00 -0400

This is the fourth episode as Tracy Reynolds and Chris Maxwell continue their conversation of Next Step Leadership. Again, they are honest. Again, they are inviting listeners to think about what is really going on in life. How can leaders become better at who they are and what they are doing? Tracy uses his jazz musical knowledge and experience about the importance of structure in life. He believes in taking personal responsibility for his spiritual growth. Chris invites listeners into the divine romance, to read, to write, to study, to pray. They ask, “How can we give God our best time?” And, “How can God transform us into better leaders?” They answer with ideas, and also with a story of a life changing experience. Listen in to their conversation, their invitation. Find new ways to make the next step as a leader and learner your best step.

Where Am I? - Next Step Leadership Podcast - Season 1, Episode 3

Thu, 18 Mar 2021 00:00:00 -0400

Join Next Step Leadership’s third episode as Tracy Reynolds and Chris Maxwell inspire listeners to take the steps awaiting them. Some leaders are reluctant. Some are afraid. Some are unsure. Some are waiting for encouragement. Some leaders are waiting for direction. Tracy and Chris start where they ended the last episode as their encourage listeners to truly face where they are in the present—a crucial awareness before knowing what next step to take. Are pains from the past controlling today’s leaders. Are today’s leaders willing to admit their need of mentors, counselors, and shepherds who will guide them? If not, why not? If so, what should they do to pursue help? We are all meant to lead and we will all be best at leading when we are led by those who care deeply for us. Next Step Leadership invites people to be themselves around other people who can be true friends who can travel with them in this journey of life—not to compete, but to complete.

Who Am I? - Next Step Leadership Podcast - Season 1, Episode 2

Thu, 11 Mar 2021 00:00:00 -0500

In the second podcast of Next Step Leadership, Tracy Reynolds and Chris Maxwell remind their audience to move forward to let their next steps be their best steps. They are honest about why many people doubt themselves. Leaders who are willing to truly know themselves—their gifts, their struggles, their fears, their weaknesses, their hopes—are more likely to take the right steps. They are also more willing to correctly lead others with true care. Can we accept who we are designed and created to be? Can we believe in an Artist who has created us to be creative? Can we believe in strength working through our weaknesses? Tracy and Chris invite readers to remove the masks and believe in growth and development of each individual, whatever their gifts and struggles.

Introductions - Next Step Leadership Podcast - Season 1, Episode 1

Tue, 02 Mar 2021 15:00:00 -0500