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    <itunes:title>Episode Nine: Zayna Khayat, Digital Health Futurist....and Sherpa (Part Two)</itunes:title>
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    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Zayna Khayat, Health Futurist and Systems Thinker shares her vision for what patients should fight for in the future. In this wide ranging episode, she spotlights the best healthcare systems in the world and how we all need to be sherpas in these unsettling times. She doesn't hold back on what needs to happen for us to have the healthcare we deserve.       ]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p>Zayna Khayat, Health Futurist and Systems Thinker shares her vision for what patients should fight for in the future. In this wide ranging episode, she spotlights the best healthcare systems in the world and how we all need to be sherpas in these unsettling times. She doesn&apos;t hold back on what needs to happen for us to have the healthcare we deserve. <br/><br/><br/><br/><br/></p>]]></description>
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    <itunes:title>Episode Nine: Zayna Khayat, Digital Health Futurist (Part One)</itunes:title>
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    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Zayna Khayat, Health Futurist and Systems Thinker shares her vision for what patients should fight for in the future. In this wide ranging episode, she spotlights the best health care systems in the world and how we all need to be sherpas in these unsettling times. She doesn't hold back on what needs to happen for us to experience the healthcare we deserve.   Zayna is VP of Business Development &amp; Strategy with Teladoc Health in Canada.  She's led  teams re-thinking how health ca...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p>Zayna Khayat, Health Futurist and Systems Thinker shares her vision for what patients should fight for in the future. In this wide ranging episode, she spotlights the best health care systems in the world and how we all need to be sherpas in these unsettling times. She doesn&apos;t hold back on what needs to happen for us to experience the healthcare we deserve. <br/><br/>Zayna is VP of Business Development &amp; Strategy with <a href='https://www.teladoc.com/start/?pk_source=Bing%20ads&amp;pk_medium=paid%20digital&amp;pk_campaign=Bing_[Search]_[Brand]_[Core]_EX_PH&amp;pk_keyword=teladoc&amp;msclkid=0a90ed5c8be81accb8038f5e17152676&amp;utm_source=bing&amp;utm_medium=cpc&amp;utm_campaign=FM%5BSearch%5D_%5BBrand%5D_%5BCore%5D_EX_PH&amp;utm_term=teladoc&amp;utm_content=0_Brand_Core_Computer'>Teladoc Health</a> in Canada.  She&apos;s led  teams re-thinking how health care is delivered  at <a href='https://www.marsdd.com/'>MaRs Discovery District,</a> and spent time in the trenches as Future Strategist at <a href='https://sehc.com/'>SE Health</a>, one of Canada&apos;s largest home health and aging non-profits. She&apos;s also on faculty at the <a href='https://www.rotman.utoronto.ca/FacultyAndResearch/Faculty/FacultyBios/KhayatZ'>Rotman School of Management </a>and <a href='https://www.su.org/'>Singularity University. </a></p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Zayna Khayat, Health Futurist and Systems Thinker shares her vision for what patients should fight for in the future. In this wide ranging episode, she spotlights the best health care systems in the world and how we all need to be sherpas in these unsettling times. She doesn&apos;t hold back on what needs to happen for us to experience the healthcare we deserve. <br/><br/>Zayna is VP of Business Development &amp; Strategy with <a href='https://www.teladoc.com/start/?pk_source=Bing%20ads&amp;pk_medium=paid%20digital&amp;pk_campaign=Bing_[Search]_[Brand]_[Core]_EX_PH&amp;pk_keyword=teladoc&amp;msclkid=0a90ed5c8be81accb8038f5e17152676&amp;utm_source=bing&amp;utm_medium=cpc&amp;utm_campaign=FM%5BSearch%5D_%5BBrand%5D_%5BCore%5D_EX_PH&amp;utm_term=teladoc&amp;utm_content=0_Brand_Core_Computer'>Teladoc Health</a> in Canada.  She&apos;s led  teams re-thinking how health care is delivered  at <a href='https://www.marsdd.com/'>MaRs Discovery District,</a> and spent time in the trenches as Future Strategist at <a href='https://sehc.com/'>SE Health</a>, one of Canada&apos;s largest home health and aging non-profits. She&apos;s also on faculty at the <a href='https://www.rotman.utoronto.ca/FacultyAndResearch/Faculty/FacultyBios/KhayatZ'>Rotman School of Management </a>and <a href='https://www.su.org/'>Singularity University. </a></p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <itunes:title>Episode Eight: The millennial public servant: one on one with Anil Wasif</itunes:title>
    <title>Episode Eight: The millennial public servant: one on one with Anil Wasif</title>
    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Anil Wasif came to Canada from Bangladesh as a university student and now works in the Ontario Public Service. Like many young professional millennials, Anil has big ideas and big hopes for the future of government services and the impact millennials like him can have on government now--not twenty years from now.  But attracting and keeping young talent, he thinks, requires a new approach.   Resources from Anil: A primer on Substack  Substacks:  Heated by Emily Atkin: https://heated.world/ (C...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p>Anil Wasif came to Canada from Bangladesh as a university student and now works in the Ontario Public Service. Like many young professional millennials, Anil has big ideas and big hopes for the future of government services and the impact millennials like him can have on government now--not twenty years from now. <br/>But attracting and keeping young talent, he thinks, requires a new approach.<br/><br/><br/>Resources from Anil:<br/>A primer on <a href='https://www.forbes.com/sites/falonfatemi/2021/01/20/the-rise-of-substack-and-whats-behind-it/?sh=20cfb345159f'>Substack</a><br/><br/>Substacks:</p><blockquote><br/>Heated by Emily Atkin: <a href='https://heated.world/'>https://heated.world/</a> (Climate Change)<br/>Regs to Riches by Vass Bednar: <a href='https://www.regs2riches.com/'>https://www.regs2riches.com/</a> (Competition/Regulation Policy)<br/>City Hall Watcher by Matt Elliot: <a href='https://graphicmatt.substack.com/'>https://graphicmatt.substack.com/</a> (Toronto City Hall Politics)<br/><br/><br/>Stories with data:<br/>Vox Videos: <a href='https://www.youtube.com/c/Vox'>https://www.youtube.com/c/Vox</a> <br/>Johnny Harris: <a href='https://www.youtube.com/c/JohnnyHarrisvox'>https://www.youtube.com/c/JohnnyHarrisvox</a> </blockquote><p><br/></p><p>Favourite Books: </p><blockquote><a href='https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/12953304-breakout-nations'>Breakout Nations</a> by Ruchir Sharma<br/><a href='https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/55361205-a-promised-land?from_search=true&amp;from_srp=true&amp;qid=Sj8pjLI52d&amp;rank=1'>A Promised Land</a> by Barack Obama </blockquote>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anil Wasif came to Canada from Bangladesh as a university student and now works in the Ontario Public Service. Like many young professional millennials, Anil has big ideas and big hopes for the future of government services and the impact millennials like him can have on government now--not twenty years from now. <br/>But attracting and keeping young talent, he thinks, requires a new approach.<br/><br/><br/>Resources from Anil:<br/>A primer on <a href='https://www.forbes.com/sites/falonfatemi/2021/01/20/the-rise-of-substack-and-whats-behind-it/?sh=20cfb345159f'>Substack</a><br/><br/>Substacks:</p><blockquote><br/>Heated by Emily Atkin: <a href='https://heated.world/'>https://heated.world/</a> (Climate Change)<br/>Regs to Riches by Vass Bednar: <a href='https://www.regs2riches.com/'>https://www.regs2riches.com/</a> (Competition/Regulation Policy)<br/>City Hall Watcher by Matt Elliot: <a href='https://graphicmatt.substack.com/'>https://graphicmatt.substack.com/</a> (Toronto City Hall Politics)<br/><br/><br/>Stories with data:<br/>Vox Videos: <a href='https://www.youtube.com/c/Vox'>https://www.youtube.com/c/Vox</a> <br/>Johnny Harris: <a href='https://www.youtube.com/c/JohnnyHarrisvox'>https://www.youtube.com/c/JohnnyHarrisvox</a> </blockquote><p><br/></p><p>Favourite Books: </p><blockquote><a href='https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/12953304-breakout-nations'>Breakout Nations</a> by Ruchir Sharma<br/><a href='https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/55361205-a-promised-land?from_search=true&amp;from_srp=true&amp;qid=Sj8pjLI52d&amp;rank=1'>A Promised Land</a> by Barack Obama </blockquote>]]></content:encoded>
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    <itunes:title>Episode Seven: A primer on user research with Katherine Benjamin</itunes:title>
    <title>Episode Seven: A primer on user research with Katherine Benjamin</title>
    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[In this episode Katherine Benjamin, Deputy Chief Technology Officer for the City of New York, explains what user research is, how it works and how user researchers like her are bringing a new approach to government services.  Here are a list of great resources Katherine shared with us if you're interested in learning more about user research and where it's happening in government:  User Research Ontario Digital Service User Research Guide: https://www.ontario.ca/page/user-research-guide ...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode Katherine Benjamin, Deputy Chief Technology Officer for the City of New York, explains what user research is, how it works and how user researchers like her are bringing a new approach to government services. <br/>Here are a list of great resources Katherine shared with us if you&apos;re interested in learning more about user research and where it&apos;s happening in government:<br/><br/><b>User Research</b><br/>Ontario Digital Service User Research Guide: <a href='https://www.ontario.ca/page/user-research-guide'>https://www.ontario.ca/page/user-research-guide</a><br/><br/>Andrew Travers, Interviewing for research: <a href='https://trvrs.co/book'>https://trvrs.co/book</a><br/><br/>Stephanie Walter, Research Cheatsheet <a href='https://stephaniewalter.design/blog/a-cheatsheet-for-user-interview-and-follow-ups-questions/'>https://stephaniewalter.design/blog/a-cheatsheet-for-user-interview-and-follow-ups-questions/</a><br/><br/><b>Design - Service/experience</b><br/>Dan Hill / Dark Matter and Trojan Horses: A Strategic Design Vocabulary: <a href='https://www.cityofsound.com/blog/2012/08/dark-matter.html'>https://www.cityofsound.com/blog/2012/08/dark-matter.html</a> <a href='https://www.amazon.com/Dark-Matter-Trojan-Horses-Vocabulary/dp/0992914639'>https://www.amazon.com/Dark-Matter-Trojan-Horses-Vocabulary/dp/0992914639</a><br/><br/>User Journey Mapping vs. Service Blueprinting: <a href='https://blog.practicalservicedesign.com/the-difference-between-a-journey-map-and-a-service-blueprint-31a6e24c4a6c'>https://blog.practicalservicedesign.com/the-difference-between-a-journey-map-and-a-service-blueprint-31a6e24c4a6c</a><br/><br/>Internet-era Ways of Working: <a href='https://public.digital/2018/10/12/internet-era-ways-of-working'>https://public.digital/2018/10/12/internet-era-ways-of-working</a><br/><br/>Detecting Agile “BS,” by the Defence Innovation Board: <a href='https://media.defense.gov/2018/Oct/09/2002049591/-1/-1/0/DIB_DETECTING_AGILE_BS_2018.10.05.PDF'>https://media.defense.gov/2018/Oct/09/2002049591/-1/-1/0/DIB_DETECTING_AGILE_BS_2018.10.05.PDF</a><br/><br/>De-risking Guide by 18F: <a href='https://derisking-guide.18f.gov/'>https://derisking-guide.18f.gov/</a></p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this episode Katherine Benjamin, Deputy Chief Technology Officer for the City of New York, explains what user research is, how it works and how user researchers like her are bringing a new approach to government services. <br/>Here are a list of great resources Katherine shared with us if you&apos;re interested in learning more about user research and where it&apos;s happening in government:<br/><br/><b>User Research</b><br/>Ontario Digital Service User Research Guide: <a href='https://www.ontario.ca/page/user-research-guide'>https://www.ontario.ca/page/user-research-guide</a><br/><br/>Andrew Travers, Interviewing for research: <a href='https://trvrs.co/book'>https://trvrs.co/book</a><br/><br/>Stephanie Walter, Research Cheatsheet <a href='https://stephaniewalter.design/blog/a-cheatsheet-for-user-interview-and-follow-ups-questions/'>https://stephaniewalter.design/blog/a-cheatsheet-for-user-interview-and-follow-ups-questions/</a><br/><br/><b>Design - Service/experience</b><br/>Dan Hill / Dark Matter and Trojan Horses: A Strategic Design Vocabulary: <a href='https://www.cityofsound.com/blog/2012/08/dark-matter.html'>https://www.cityofsound.com/blog/2012/08/dark-matter.html</a> <a href='https://www.amazon.com/Dark-Matter-Trojan-Horses-Vocabulary/dp/0992914639'>https://www.amazon.com/Dark-Matter-Trojan-Horses-Vocabulary/dp/0992914639</a><br/><br/>User Journey Mapping vs. Service Blueprinting: <a href='https://blog.practicalservicedesign.com/the-difference-between-a-journey-map-and-a-service-blueprint-31a6e24c4a6c'>https://blog.practicalservicedesign.com/the-difference-between-a-journey-map-and-a-service-blueprint-31a6e24c4a6c</a><br/><br/>Internet-era Ways of Working: <a href='https://public.digital/2018/10/12/internet-era-ways-of-working'>https://public.digital/2018/10/12/internet-era-ways-of-working</a><br/><br/>Detecting Agile “BS,” by the Defence Innovation Board: <a href='https://media.defense.gov/2018/Oct/09/2002049591/-1/-1/0/DIB_DETECTING_AGILE_BS_2018.10.05.PDF'>https://media.defense.gov/2018/Oct/09/2002049591/-1/-1/0/DIB_DETECTING_AGILE_BS_2018.10.05.PDF</a><br/><br/>De-risking Guide by 18F: <a href='https://derisking-guide.18f.gov/'>https://derisking-guide.18f.gov/</a></p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Wow! It really is the Wild West in California politics! While there's a federal election happening north of the 49th parallel, there's another *very different kind of election* happening in the most populous state in America. The Governor is being recalled and that means he could get the boot from Office on September 14th.  We talked to Ben Christopher who covers politics and government for CalMatters.org about what a recall is, why it's happening now, how it works and what it could mean...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p>Wow! It really is the Wild West in California politics! While there&apos;s a federal election happening north of the 49th parallel, there&apos;s another *very different kind of election* happening in the most populous state in America. The Governor is being recalled and that means he could get the boot from Office on September 14th. <br/>We talked to Ben Christopher who covers politics and government for CalMatters.org about what a recall is, why it&apos;s happening now, how it works and what it could mean for Governor Gavin Newsom.<br/>Ben Christopher covers California politics and elections for CalMatters.org, a nonpartisan, nonprofit journalism venture committed to explaining how California’s state Capitol works and why it matters.</p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow! It really is the Wild West in California politics! While there&apos;s a federal election happening north of the 49th parallel, there&apos;s another *very different kind of election* happening in the most populous state in America. The Governor is being recalled and that means he could get the boot from Office on September 14th. <br/>We talked to Ben Christopher who covers politics and government for CalMatters.org about what a recall is, why it&apos;s happening now, how it works and what it could mean for Governor Gavin Newsom.<br/>Ben Christopher covers California politics and elections for CalMatters.org, a nonpartisan, nonprofit journalism venture committed to explaining how California’s state Capitol works and why it matters.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <itunes:title>Episode Five: COVID passports are here but should government be managing them?</itunes:title>
    <title>Episode Five: COVID passports are here but should government be managing them?</title>
    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Covid vaccine passports are coming to Ontario, other Canadian provinces, and jurisdictions around the world. Dorin and Anne discuss some of the issues that surround vaccine passports in other places around the globe. ]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p>Covid vaccine passports are coming to Ontario, other Canadian provinces, and jurisdictions around the world. Dorin and Anne discuss some of the issues that surround vaccine passports in other places around the globe.</p>]]></description>
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    <pubDate>Thu, 02 Sep 2021 15:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
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    <itunes:title>Episode 4: A conversation with Chief Digital Officer Natasha Clarke</itunes:title>
    <title>Episode 4: A conversation with Chief Digital Officer Natasha Clarke</title>
    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Anne gets the scoop from Nova Scotia's Chief Digital Officer, Natasha Clarke, on what it was like to navigate a new team through the pandemic right after she was appointed to the position. ]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p>Anne gets the scoop from Nova Scotia&apos;s Chief Digital Officer, Natasha Clarke, on what it was like to navigate a new team through the pandemic right after she was appointed to the position.</p>]]></description>
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    <itunes:title>Episode Three: Policy Whiplash Part 2</itunes:title>
    <title>Episode Three: Policy Whiplash Part 2</title>
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