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    <title>Robert Aery and Hern Policy Institute</title>
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    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Curtis and Ryan talk to Amy Bruce, executive director of Whiz Kidz, about her work leading a one-on-one literacy tutoring and faith-based mentoring program.  ]]></itunes:summary>
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    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Ryan and Curtis sit down with Samantha Fulnecky to unpack the moment she received a failing grade for defending biological reality in class—and what happened after she filed a religious discrimination complaint against her university.  ]]></itunes:summary>
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    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Curtis and Ryan are joined by Mike Palicz of Americans for Tax Reform to analyze the ongoing government shutdown: who’s to blame, what caused it, and what it will take to resolve it. ]]></itunes:summary>
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    <itunes:title>Who Controls AI: Feds or States?</itunes:title>
    <title>Who Controls AI: Feds or States?</title>
    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Ryan and Curtis speak with Neil Chilson of the Abundance Institute about who should lead the regulation of AI and how aggressive those regulations should be. ]]></itunes:summary>
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    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Curtis and Ryan talk with John Stonestreet, president of the Colson Center, about a new documentary he partnered with Focus on the Family to create, titled Truth Rising. The film examines the decline of Western civilization, addresses contemporary societal issues, and underscores the hope found in Christ—encouraging you to embrace your God-given calling to be a catalyst for renewal. ]]></itunes:summary>
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    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Curtis and Ryan give an update on how legislative session has gone so far and how the last few weeks might shape up. ]]></itunes:summary>
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    <pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2025 09:00:00 -0600</pubDate>
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    <itunes:title>Why Work?</itunes:title>
    <title>Why Work?</title>
    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Curtis and Ryan talk with David Bahnsen, Chief Investment Officer of The Bahnsen Group and bestselling author, about flipping the script on how we see work—and why it might just be one of life’s greatest blessings.   ]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p>Curtis and Ryan talk with David Bahnsen, Chief Investment Officer of The Bahnsen Group and bestselling author, about flipping the script on how we see work—and why it might just be one of life’s greatest blessings.</p><p><br/></p>]]></description>
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    <pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2025 09:00:00 -0600</pubDate>
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    <itunes:title>Kevin McDugle on Glossip v. Oklahoma</itunes:title>
    <title>Kevin McDugle on Glossip v. Oklahoma</title>
    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Curtis and Ryan sit down with former state Representative Kevin McDugle to discuss the recent U.S. Supreme Court ruling in Glossip v. Oklahoma and his role in the case.  Notes: https://www.reedsmith.com/en/news/2023/03/reed-smith-glossip-investigation-releases-new-findings-evidence-withheld  ]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p>Curtis and Ryan sit down with former state Representative Kevin McDugle to discuss the recent U.S. Supreme Court ruling in <em>Glossip v. Oklahoma</em> and his role in the case. </p><p>Notes: <a href='https://www.reedsmith.com/en/news/2023/03/reed-smith-glossip-investigation-releases-new-findings-evidence-withheld'>https://www.reedsmith.com/en/news/2023/03/reed-smith-glossip-investigation-releases-new-findings-evidence-withheld</a> </p>]]></description>
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    <pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2025 11:00:00 -0600</pubDate>
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    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[This week, the guys take a step back from Oklahoma politics to explore a broader perspective on the major projects unfolding in Washington, D.C.  Have a guest suggestion or feedback? Let us know at digital@ocpathink.org.   ]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p>This week, the guys take a step back from Oklahoma politics to explore a broader perspective on the major projects unfolding in Washington, D.C.<br/><br/>Have a guest suggestion or feedback? Let us know at digital@ocpathink.org.</p><p><br/></p>]]></description>
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    <title>Property Tax Problems with Manish Bhatt</title>
    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Tax expert and Senior Policy Analyst for the Tax Foundation, Manish Bhatt, joins the guys to talk about the complications, functions, and frustrations surrounding the property tax. To read about the REINS Act, check out this article from OCPAthink.org, "Effort to reduce state regulation gets bipartisan support" ]]></itunes:summary>
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    <pubDate>Fri, 14 Feb 2025 14:00:00 -0600</pubDate>
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    <itunes:title>New year, same government spending problem</itunes:title>
    <title>New year, same government spending problem</title>
    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Listen in as the guys discuss what to watch for in the upcoming legislative session and a few grassroots initiatives that you should probably keep an eye on. ]]></itunes:summary>
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    <pubDate>Fri, 17 Jan 2025 09:00:00 -0600</pubDate>
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    <itunes:title>What&#39;s Next? The OK Supreme Court is Hiring</itunes:title>
    <title>What&#39;s Next? The OK Supreme Court is Hiring</title>
    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[The guys debrief the results of the recent election cycle, including Oklahoma voters' historic decision not to retain an Oklahoma Supreme Court justice.  To read the article about judicial districts Ryan mentions, click this link.  For more information on OCPA's judicial scorecard, click here. ]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p>The guys debrief the results of the recent election cycle, including Oklahoma voters&apos; historic decision not to retain an Oklahoma Supreme Court justice.<br/><br/>To read the article about judicial districts Ryan mentions, click <a href='https://ocpathink.org/post/analysis/its-time-to-eliminate-oklahoma-judicial-districts'>this link</a>.<br/><br/>For more information on OCPA&apos;s judicial scorecard, <a href='https://ocpathink.org/judicial-scorecard'>click here</a>.</p>]]></description>
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    <title>The Economic &amp; Legal Case Against the Minimum Wage</title>
    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Ryan sits down with Ben Lepak to discuss a recent activist initiative to raise the minimum wage in Oklahoma and why it would be a bad move for the state. ]]></itunes:summary>
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    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Ahead of the upcoming November election, Curtis and Ryan discuss OCPA’s 2024 legislative scorecard and first-ever judicial scorecard.   Click here to see the 2024 Legislative Scorecard.  Click here to see OCPA’s Judicial Scorecard.  To learn more about the lawsuit over the University of Oklahoma’s racist scholarship practices, click here. ]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p>Ahead of the upcoming November election, Curtis and Ryan discuss OCPA’s <b>2024 legislative scorecard </b>and first-ever <b>judicial scorecard. </b><br/><br/><a href='https://ocpathink.org/scorecard'>Click here to see the 2024 Legislative Scorecard</a>.<br/><br/><a href='https://ocpathink.org/judicial-scorecard'>Click here to see OCPA’s Judicial Scorecard</a>.<br/><br/>To learn more about the lawsuit over the University of Oklahoma’s racist scholarship practices, <a href='https://ocpathink.org/post/independent-journalism/ou-sued-for-racist-scholarship-practices'>click here</a>.</p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ahead of the upcoming November election, Curtis and Ryan discuss OCPA’s <b>2024 legislative scorecard </b>and first-ever <b>judicial scorecard. </b><br/><br/><a href='https://ocpathink.org/scorecard'>Click here to see the 2024 Legislative Scorecard</a>.<br/><br/><a href='https://ocpathink.org/judicial-scorecard'>Click here to see OCPA’s Judicial Scorecard</a>.<br/><br/>To learn more about the lawsuit over the University of Oklahoma’s racist scholarship practices, <a href='https://ocpathink.org/post/independent-journalism/ou-sued-for-racist-scholarship-practices'>click here</a>.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <itunes:title>Talk Left, Walk Right: Interview with Dr. Brad Wilcox on how marriage can save civilization </itunes:title>
    <title>Talk Left, Walk Right: Interview with Dr. Brad Wilcox on how marriage can save civilization </title>
    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Curtis and Ryan sit down with Dr. Brad Wilcox, Future of Freedom Fellow at the Institute for Family Studies and professor at the University of Virginia, to dive into his groundbreaking research on marriage and the family. They also discuss his new book, Get Married: Why Americans Must Defy the Elites, Forge Strong Families, and Save Civilization. ]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p>Curtis and Ryan sit down with Dr. Brad Wilcox, Future of Freedom Fellow at the Institute for Family Studies and professor at the University of Virginia, to dive into his groundbreaking research on marriage and the family. They also discuss his new book, <em>Get Married: Why Americans Must Defy the Elites, Forge Strong Families, and Save Civilization</em>.</p>]]></description>
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    <itunes:title>Tennessee Wisdom</itunes:title>
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    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Prof. Brian Fitzpatrick of Vanderbilt Law School talks to Ryan and Curtis about how Tennessee successfully changed its judicial nominating process—and why Oklahoma should do the same. They discuss the dangers of a bar-controlled court system and discuss what it would look like to allow the continuance of the Judicial Nominating Commission to be put to a state question. For more content on the truth and dangers of the JNC, listen to this popular episode with Ben Lepak; “Legislators In Black Ro...]]></itunes:summary>
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    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Curtis and special guest Dr. Ben Carson discuss life lessons, role models, and the ever-changing climate of American politics. Listen in to hear Dr. Carson's thought-provoking perspectives on the country's education system, the doom of repeating history, and the reality of the human condition.  Be sure to join us April 24th for OCPA's Citizenship Award dinner featuring former U.S. Secretary of Urban Housing and Development, 2016 presidential candidate, Dr. Ben Carson.  For more information, c...]]></itunes:summary>
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    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Curtis and special guest Dr. Ben Carson discuss life lessons, role models, and the ever-changing climate of American politics. Listen in to hear Dr. Carson&apos;s thought-provoking perspectives on the country&apos;s education system, the doom of repeating history, and the reality of the human condition.<br/><br/>Be sure to join us April 24th for OCPA&apos;s Citizenship Award dinner featuring former U.S. Secretary of Urban Housing and Development, 2016 presidential candidate, Dr. Ben Carson.<br/><br/>For more information, <a href='https://ocpathink.org/event/2024-citizenship-award-dinner'>click here</a>.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Curtis and Ryan discuss judicial reform in Oklahoma with Katie Daniel, Susan B. Anthony Pro Life America's state policy director, and unpack how Oklahoma's courts threaten the state's pro-life laws.  ]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p>Curtis and Ryan discuss judicial reform in Oklahoma with Katie Daniel, Susan B. Anthony Pro Life America&apos;s state policy director, and unpack how Oklahoma&apos;s courts threaten the state&apos;s pro-life laws. </p>]]></description>
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    <pubDate>Mon, 11 Mar 2024 07:00:00 -0600</pubDate>
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    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Curtis and Ryan talk about the new school choice tax credit and tease major legislative priorities for the upcoming session.  ]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p>Curtis and Ryan talk about the new school choice tax credit and tease major legislative priorities for the upcoming session. </p>]]></description>
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    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[OCPA is turning 30! This week, Curtis and Ryan are joined by OCPA's Senior Vice President, Brandon Dutcher, who began his journey with OCPA as a board member before joining the staff in 1995. Brandon gives listeners the inside look behind the many struggles of a new nonprofit, the changing political climate in Oklahoma since 1993, and OCPA's victories throughout the last 30 years. ]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p>OCPA is turning 30! This week, Curtis and Ryan are joined by OCPA&apos;s Senior Vice President, Brandon Dutcher, who began his journey with OCPA as a board member before joining the staff in 1995. Brandon gives listeners the inside look behind the many struggles of a new nonprofit, the changing political climate in Oklahoma since 1993, and OCPA&apos;s victories throughout the last 30 years.</p>]]></description>
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    <title>What the heck is a paideia? With special guest Pete Hegseth</title>
    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[This week, Curtis and Ryan are joined by co-host of Fox &amp; Friends, Pete Hegseth, to discuss his latest book, Battle for the American Mind, and answer questions surrounding education, school choice, and what the heck a paideia is. Pete is also the keynote speaker for OCPA's 2023 Citizenship Award Dinner. Click here for more information on how you can join us to hear him speak on April 26.  ]]></itunes:summary>
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    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[This week, Curtis and Ryan are joined by executive director of the State Chamber Research Foundation, Ben Lepak. The guys talk about judicial reform, including the Judicial Nominating Commission, and a recent decision regarding abortion by the Oklahoma Supreme Court.  ]]></itunes:summary>
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    <title>Dead (Or Alive?)</title>
    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[This week, Curtis and Ryan discuss bills that made it through the first session deadline, Oklahoma's recent vote on recreational marijuana, and more.  ]]></itunes:summary>
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    <title>Breaking Down the Transgender Session</title>
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    <itunes:title>Economics in 3 Podcasts: Monetary Madness Pt. 3 with Jeff Deist</itunes:title>
    <title>Economics in 3 Podcasts: Monetary Madness Pt. 3 with Jeff Deist</title>
    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[This week, Curtis and Ryan close out the economics series with the president of the Mises Institute, Jeff Deist. The guys discuss inflation versus deflation, how states can insulate their economies, the Mises Institute, and more.  ]]></itunes:summary>
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    <itunes:title>Economics in 3 Podcasts: Monetary Madness Pt. 2 with Dr. Per Bylund</itunes:title>
    <title>Economics in 3 Podcasts: Monetary Madness Pt. 2 with Dr. Per Bylund</title>
    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[In part 2 of the Economics in 3 Podcasts series, Curtis and Ryan are joined by Dr. Per Bylund, a Senior Fellow with the Mises Institute and associate professor of entrepreneurship and Johnny D. Pope Chair and Records-Johnston Professor in the School of Entrepreneurship in the Spears School of Business at Oklahoma State University. The guys discuss Dr. Bylund's latest book, modern monetary theory, entrepreneurship, and what causes prosperity. ]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p>In part 2 of the Economics in 3 Podcasts series, Curtis and Ryan are joined by <a href='https://perbylund.com/'>Dr. Per Bylund</a>, a Senior Fellow with the Mises Institute and associate professor of entrepreneurship and Johnny D. Pope Chair and Records-Johnston Professor in the School of Entrepreneurship in the Spears School of Business at Oklahoma State University. The guys discuss Dr. Bylund&apos;s latest book, modern monetary theory, entrepreneurship, and what causes prosperity.</p>]]></description>
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    <itunes:title>Economics in 3 Podcasts: Monetary Madness with Dr. Joseph Salerno</itunes:title>
    <title>Economics in 3 Podcasts: Monetary Madness with Dr. Joseph Salerno</title>
    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Welcome to part 1 of the Economics in 3 Podcasts series! Curtis and Ryan are kicking off the series with Academic Vice President of the Ludwig von Mises Institute, Dr. Joseph T. Salerno to discuss the cause and effects of inflation, Austrian Economics, and more.   ]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p>Welcome to part 1 of the Economics in 3 Podcasts series! Curtis and Ryan are kicking off the series with Academic Vice President of the Ludwig von Mises Institute, Dr. Joseph T. Salerno to discuss the cause and effects of inflation, Austrian Economics, and more.  </p>]]></description>
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    <itunes:title>Is Rank Choice Voting a Rank Choice?</itunes:title>
    <title>Is Rank Choice Voting a Rank Choice?</title>
    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[This week, Curtis and Ryan are joined by the founder of Save Our States and OCPA Distinguished Fellow, Trent England. Trent discusses a new project and takes the guys on a deep dive into rank choice voting.  ]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p>This week, Curtis and Ryan are joined by the founder of Save Our States and OCPA Distinguished Fellow, Trent England. Trent discusses a new project and takes the guys on a deep dive into rank choice voting. </p>]]></description>
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    <pubDate>Fri, 23 Dec 2022 06:00:00 -0600</pubDate>
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    <itunes:title>Bloated Bureaucracy </itunes:title>
    <title>Bloated Bureaucracy </title>
    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[This week, Curtis and Ryan unpack the regulatory burden on Oklahomans and our economy. Is Oklahoma an over-regulated state? If so, how do we fix it? The guys discuss all that and more on this episode of Thinkin' on Lincoln.  ]]></itunes:summary>
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    <pubDate>Mon, 12 Dec 2022 06:00:00 -0600</pubDate>
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    <itunes:title>Race to the Bottom</itunes:title>
    <title>Race to the Bottom</title>
    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[How is Oklahoma really doing when it comes to education? The new results are in, and it might be worse than predicted. This week, Curtis and Ryan unpack new test data from the National Assessment of Education Progress (NAEP).  Find references on the data here. ]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p>How is Oklahoma really doing when it comes to education? The new results are in, and it might be worse than predicted. This week, Curtis and Ryan unpack new test data from the National Assessment of Education Progress (NAEP).<br/><br/>Find references on the data <a href='https://www.ocpathink.org/post/naep-tests-show-academic-results-plunged-under-hofmeister'>here</a>.</p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How is Oklahoma really doing when it comes to education? The new results are in, and it might be worse than predicted. This week, Curtis and Ryan unpack new test data from the National Assessment of Education Progress (NAEP).<br/><br/>Find references on the data <a href='https://www.ocpathink.org/post/naep-tests-show-academic-results-plunged-under-hofmeister'>here</a>.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <pubDate>Mon, 07 Nov 2022 06:00:00 -0600</pubDate>
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    <itunes:duration>2336</itunes:duration>
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    <itunes:title>Shine On, You Crazy Diamond with Grover Norquist</itunes:title>
    <title>Shine On, You Crazy Diamond with Grover Norquist</title>
    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[This week, Curtis and Ryan are joined with founder and president of Americans for Tax Reform, Grover Norquist. The guys discuss Grover's journey to build ATR at the request of Pres. Ronald Reagan, the success of eliminating the income tax in states across the U.S., and more. ]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p>This week, Curtis and Ryan are joined with founder and president of Americans for Tax Reform, Grover Norquist. The guys discuss Grover&apos;s journey to build ATR at the request of Pres. Ronald Reagan, the success of eliminating the income tax in states across the U.S., and more.</p>]]></description>
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    <pubDate>Mon, 10 Oct 2022 06:00:00 -0600</pubDate>
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    <itunes:title>Fahrenheit 451</itunes:title>
    <title>Fahrenheit 451</title>
    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[This week, Curtis and Ryan discuss the phenomenon behind "book banning"in Oklahoma public schools. ]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p>This week, Curtis and Ryan discuss the phenomenon behind &quot;book banning&quot;in Oklahoma public schools.</p>]]></description>
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    <pubDate>Mon, 26 Sep 2022 16:00:00 -0600</pubDate>
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    <itunes:duration>2669</itunes:duration>
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    <itunes:title>Tech Talk with Carl Szabo</itunes:title>
    <title>Tech Talk with Carl Szabo</title>
    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[This week, Curtis and Ryan are joined by the Vice President and General Counsel of NetChoice, Carl Szabo, to discuss the damaging ramifications of anti-trust legislation introduced by U.S. Sen. Amy Klobuchar.  ]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p>This week, Curtis and Ryan are joined by the Vice President and General Counsel of NetChoice, Carl Szabo, to discuss the damaging ramifications of anti-trust legislation introduced by U.S. Sen. Amy Klobuchar. </p>]]></description>
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    <pubDate>Tue, 06 Sep 2022 14:00:00 -0600</pubDate>
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    <itunes:title>Homeless, Not Hopeless: A conversation with Adam Luck</itunes:title>
    <title>Homeless, Not Hopeless: A conversation with Adam Luck</title>
    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[This week, Curtis and Ryan are joined by City Care's Chief Executive Officer Adam Luck to talk about his work with Oklahoma's unsheltered. Adam discusses his journey to working with those in poverty and gives an in depth look at City Care Night Shelter, Oklahoma City's only permanent low-barrier night shelter. This episode sheds a light on the sources of homelessness and challenges opinions on government intervention, personal responsibility, and more. ]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p>This week, Curtis and Ryan are joined by City Care&apos;s Chief Executive Officer Adam Luck to talk about his work with Oklahoma&apos;s unsheltered. Adam discusses his journey to working with those in poverty and gives an in depth look at City Care Night Shelter, Oklahoma City&apos;s only permanent low-barrier night shelter. This episode sheds a light on the sources of homelessness and challenges opinions on government intervention, personal responsibility, and more.</p>]]></description>
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    <pubDate>Mon, 22 Aug 2022 13:00:00 -0600</pubDate>
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    <itunes:title>Housing Market Fix with Tobias Peter</itunes:title>
    <title>Housing Market Fix with Tobias Peter</title>
    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[This week, Curtis and Ryan are joined by Research Fellow and Assistant Director of the American Enterprise Institute Housing Center, Tobias Peter. The guys discuss the current housing climate, how the government can (or can't) stabilize the market, and more. ]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p>This week, Curtis and Ryan are joined by Research Fellow and Assistant Director of the American Enterprise Institute Housing Center, Tobias Peter. The guys discuss the current housing climate, how the government can (or can&apos;t) stabilize the market, and more.</p>]]></description>
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    <pubDate>Fri, 24 Jun 2022 06:00:00 -0600</pubDate>
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    <itunes:title>Regular Episode, Special Session</itunes:title>
    <title>Regular Episode, Special Session</title>
    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[In this episode, Curtis and Ryan discuss special session, tax reform, and true economic relief.  ]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Curtis and Ryan discuss special session, tax reform, and true economic relief. </p>]]></description>
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    <pubDate>Fri, 10 Jun 2022 12:00:00 -0600</pubDate>
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    <title>Legislative Letdowns</title>
    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[This week, Curtis and Ryan discuss Ryan's new claim to fame, the letdowns of this legislative session, and the potential to unite both sides of the political aisle. ]]></itunes:summary>
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    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[This week, Curtis and Ryan discuss Stillwater's problematic bathroom policy and some in the legislature attempting to line their own pockets.  Article links: 1. OSU's Drag Queen Story Hour 2. Lawmaker makes false statements about bill 3. Stillwater board refuses to change bathroom policy 4. OCPA urges action by Hofmeister, State Board of Education on bathroom policy 5. Oklahoma's confusing bathroom policy: context and legal background 6. Why defined-contribution retirement plans are preferabl...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p>This week, Curtis and Ryan discuss Stillwater&apos;s problematic bathroom policy and some in the legislature attempting to line their own pockets.<br/><br/>Article links:<br/>1. <a href='https://www.ocpathink.org/post/after-drag-queen-story-hour-osu-president-says-we-will-use-this-occasion-to-consider-our-policies'>OSU&apos;s Drag Queen Story Hour</a><br/>2. <a href='https://www.ocpathink.org/post/lawmaker-makes-false-statements-about-bill'>Lawmaker makes false statements about bill</a><br/>3. <a href='https://www.ocpathink.org/post/stillwater-board-refuses-to-change-bathroom-policy'>Stillwater board refuses to change bathroom policy</a><br/>4. <a href='https://www.ocpathink.org/post/ocpa-urges-action-by-hofmeister-state-board-of-education-on-bathroom-policy'>OCPA urges action by Hofmeister, State Board of Education on bathroom policy</a><br/>5. <a href='https://www.ocpathink.org/post/oklahomas-confusing-bathroom-policy-context-and-legal-background'>Oklahoma&apos;s confusing bathroom policy: context and legal background<br/></a>6. <a href='https://www.ocpathink.org/post/why-defined-contribution-retirement-plans-are-preferable-to-defined-benefit-plans'>Why defined-contribution retirement plans are preferable to defined-benefit plans</a><br/>7. <a href='https://nondoc.com/2022/04/12/judiciary-chairpersons-feuding-ptsd-data-privacy/'>Nondoc: &apos;Burn it down: Chris Kannady hears no Senate bills in Civil Judiciary meeting</a></p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This week, Curtis and Ryan discuss Stillwater&apos;s problematic bathroom policy and some in the legislature attempting to line their own pockets.<br/><br/>Article links:<br/>1. <a href='https://www.ocpathink.org/post/after-drag-queen-story-hour-osu-president-says-we-will-use-this-occasion-to-consider-our-policies'>OSU&apos;s Drag Queen Story Hour</a><br/>2. <a href='https://www.ocpathink.org/post/lawmaker-makes-false-statements-about-bill'>Lawmaker makes false statements about bill</a><br/>3. <a href='https://www.ocpathink.org/post/stillwater-board-refuses-to-change-bathroom-policy'>Stillwater board refuses to change bathroom policy</a><br/>4. <a href='https://www.ocpathink.org/post/ocpa-urges-action-by-hofmeister-state-board-of-education-on-bathroom-policy'>OCPA urges action by Hofmeister, State Board of Education on bathroom policy</a><br/>5. <a href='https://www.ocpathink.org/post/oklahomas-confusing-bathroom-policy-context-and-legal-background'>Oklahoma&apos;s confusing bathroom policy: context and legal background<br/></a>6. <a href='https://www.ocpathink.org/post/why-defined-contribution-retirement-plans-are-preferable-to-defined-benefit-plans'>Why defined-contribution retirement plans are preferable to defined-benefit plans</a><br/>7. <a href='https://nondoc.com/2022/04/12/judiciary-chairpersons-feuding-ptsd-data-privacy/'>Nondoc: &apos;Burn it down: Chris Kannady hears no Senate bills in Civil Judiciary meeting</a></p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <title>Getting to Know Will Cain</title>
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    <pubDate>Fri, 08 Apr 2022 10:00:00 -0600</pubDate>
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    <title>A Conversation with Corey DeAngelis</title>
    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[This week, Curtis and Ryan are joined with the national director of research at the American Federation for Children, Corey DeAngelis, to discuss school choice.    DeAngelis is the 2022 recipient of OCPA's annual Citizenship Award. Learn more about the event honoring his work for families across the nation here.  ]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p>This week, Curtis and Ryan are joined with the national director of research at the American Federation for Children, Corey DeAngelis, to discuss school choice.  <br/><br/>DeAngelis is the 2022 recipient of OCPA&apos;s annual Citizenship Award. Learn more about the event honoring his work for families across the nation <a href='https://www.ocpathink.org/event/citizenship-award-dinner'>here</a>. </p>]]></description>
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    <itunes:title>Papist Priorities with Brett Farley</itunes:title>
    <title>Papist Priorities with Brett Farley</title>
    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[This week, Curtis and Ryan are joined with Brett Farley, Executive Director of Catholic Conference of Oklahoma, to discuss his work at the Capitol, the Catholic Church's role in shaping politics, and more. ]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p>This week, Curtis and Ryan are joined with Brett Farley, Executive Director of Catholic Conference of Oklahoma, to discuss his work at the Capitol, the Catholic Church&apos;s role in shaping politics, and more.</p>]]></description>
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    <title>Fines, Fees, and Taxes - Legislative Update #1</title>
    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[This week, the guys give a big update on legislation at the capitol, Curtis goes in depth on his new proposal for reform, and Ryan is heading to CPAC.  Read the proposal here. ]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p>This week, the guys give a big update on legislation at the capitol, Curtis goes in depth on his new proposal for reform, and Ryan is heading to CPAC.<br/><br/>Read the proposal<a href='https://www.ocpathink.org/post/bold-reforms-for-a-post-pandemic-oklahoma '> here</a>.</p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This week, the guys give a big update on legislation at the capitol, Curtis goes in depth on his new proposal for reform, and Ryan is heading to CPAC.<br/><br/>Read the proposal<a href='https://www.ocpathink.org/post/bold-reforms-for-a-post-pandemic-oklahoma '> here</a>.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <pubDate>Fri, 25 Feb 2022 06:00:00 -0600</pubDate>
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    <itunes:duration>3044</itunes:duration>
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    <itunes:title>Best Job in the World with Lt. Gov. Matt Pinnell</itunes:title>
    <title>Best Job in the World with Lt. Gov. Matt Pinnell</title>
    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[This week, Curtis and Ryan are joined with Oklahoma Lt. Gov. Matt Pinnell. The guys discuss the State of the State address, Oklahoma's recent rebrand, and what makes being Oklahoma's Lieutenant Governor the best job in the world.  ]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p>This week, Curtis and Ryan are joined with Oklahoma Lt. Gov. Matt Pinnell. The guys discuss the State of the State address, Oklahoma&apos;s recent rebrand, and what makes being Oklahoma&apos;s Lieutenant Governor the best job in the world. </p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This week, Curtis and Ryan are joined with Oklahoma Lt. Gov. Matt Pinnell. The guys discuss the State of the State address, Oklahoma&apos;s recent rebrand, and what makes being Oklahoma&apos;s Lieutenant Governor the best job in the world. </p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <pubDate>Fri, 11 Feb 2022 06:00:00 -0600</pubDate>
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    <itunes:duration>2703</itunes:duration>
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    <itunes:title>2022 Bills: The Good, The Bad, &amp; The Stupid</itunes:title>
    <title>2022 Bills: The Good, The Bad, &amp; The Stupid</title>
    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Curtis and Ryan are back from break with a brand new episode of Thinkin' on Lincoln! This week, the guys discuss the good, the bad, and the stupid bills that have been filed for the upcoming legislative session.  Read article here: https://www.ocpathink.org/post/with-2300-bills-introduced-which-ones-should-you-watch ]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p>Curtis and Ryan are back from break with a brand new episode of Thinkin&apos; on Lincoln! This week, the guys discuss the good, the bad, and the stupid bills that have been filed for the upcoming legislative session.<br/><br/>Read article here: <a href='https://www.ocpathink.org/post/with-2300-bills-introduced-which-ones-should-you-watch'>https://www.ocpathink.org/post/with-2300-bills-introduced-which-ones-should-you-watch</a></p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Curtis and Ryan are back from break with a brand new episode of Thinkin&apos; on Lincoln! This week, the guys discuss the good, the bad, and the stupid bills that have been filed for the upcoming legislative session.<br/><br/>Read article here: <a href='https://www.ocpathink.org/post/with-2300-bills-introduced-which-ones-should-you-watch'>https://www.ocpathink.org/post/with-2300-bills-introduced-which-ones-should-you-watch</a></p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <pubDate>Fri, 28 Jan 2022 06:00:00 -0600</pubDate>
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    <itunes:title>New Year&#39;s Special with Steve Deace</itunes:title>
    <title>New Year&#39;s Special with Steve Deace</title>
    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[On this episode of Thinkin' on Lincoln, the guys sit down with TheBlaze's Steve Deace to discuss school choice and saving America from the leftist agenda. ]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p>On this episode of Thinkin&apos; on Lincoln, the guys sit down with TheBlaze&apos;s Steve Deace to discuss school choice and saving America from the leftist agenda.</p>]]></description>
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    <pubDate>Fri, 31 Dec 2021 06:00:00 -0600</pubDate>
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    <itunes:title>The Transparent Fix to Our Healthcare System with Will Bruhn</itunes:title>
    <title>The Transparent Fix to Our Healthcare System with Will Bruhn</title>
    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[This week, Ryan takes a hiatus while Curtis is joined with longtime friend Will Bruhn to discuss price transparency, the government's role in our healthcare system and more.   Bruhn is the COO and Co-Founder of Restoring Medicine — a grassroots movement of doctors, nurses, students, business leaders, and everyday citizens from across the United States that are demanding a more honest and fair health care system.    ]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p>This week, Ryan takes a hiatus while Curtis is joined with longtime friend Will Bruhn to discuss price transparency, the government&apos;s role in our healthcare system and more. <br/><br/>Bruhn is the COO and Co-Founder of Restoring Medicine — a grassroots movement of doctors, nurses, students, business leaders, and everyday citizens from across the United States that are demanding a more honest and fair health care system. </p><p><br/></p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This week, Ryan takes a hiatus while Curtis is joined with longtime friend Will Bruhn to discuss price transparency, the government&apos;s role in our healthcare system and more. <br/><br/>Bruhn is the COO and Co-Founder of Restoring Medicine — a grassroots movement of doctors, nurses, students, business leaders, and everyday citizens from across the United States that are demanding a more honest and fair health care system. </p><p><br/></p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <pubDate>Fri, 17 Dec 2021 06:00:00 -0600</pubDate>
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    <itunes:duration>1552</itunes:duration>
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    <itunes:title>Free Market Medicine Pt. 2 with Jay Kempton</itunes:title>
    <title>Free Market Medicine Pt. 2 with Jay Kempton</title>
    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Curtis and Ryan are here with part two of the Free Market Medicine series! This week, the guys are joined by Jay Kempton, Owner and President of the Kempton Group, to discuss the healthcare industry from the buyers' perspective.  Learn more about the Kempton Group: https://www.kemptongroup.com/  ]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p>Curtis and Ryan are here with part two of the Free Market Medicine series! This week, the guys are joined by Jay Kempton, Owner and President of the Kempton Group, to discuss the healthcare industry from the buyers&apos; perspective.<br/><br/>Learn more about the Kempton Group: https://www.kemptongroup.com/ </p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Curtis and Ryan are here with part two of the Free Market Medicine series! This week, the guys are joined by Jay Kempton, Owner and President of the Kempton Group, to discuss the healthcare industry from the buyers&apos; perspective.<br/><br/>Learn more about the Kempton Group: https://www.kemptongroup.com/ </p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <pubDate>Fri, 03 Dec 2021 06:00:00 -0600</pubDate>
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    <itunes:duration>2683</itunes:duration>
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    <itunes:title>Free Market Medicine Pt. 1 with Dr. Keith Smith</itunes:title>
    <title>Free Market Medicine Pt. 1 with Dr. Keith Smith</title>
    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[On this week's episode of Thinkin' on Lincoln, Curtis and Ryan are joined with Dr. Keith Smith to discuss his journey to co-founding Surgery Center of Oklahoma and the importance of free market medicine.   Learn more about Surgery Center of Oklahoma: https://surgerycenterok.com/  ]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p>On this week&apos;s episode of Thinkin&apos; on Lincoln, Curtis and Ryan are joined with Dr. Keith Smith to discuss his journey to co-founding Surgery Center of Oklahoma and the importance of free market medicine. <br/><br/>Learn more about Surgery Center of Oklahoma: https://surgerycenterok.com/ </p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On this week&apos;s episode of Thinkin&apos; on Lincoln, Curtis and Ryan are joined with Dr. Keith Smith to discuss his journey to co-founding Surgery Center of Oklahoma and the importance of free market medicine. <br/><br/>Learn more about Surgery Center of Oklahoma: https://surgerycenterok.com/ </p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Do you get frustrated at the state of the federal government? This episode is for you. This week, Curtis and Ryan give encouraging insight into the changes that can be made at a local level and empower listeners to get involved.  ]]></itunes:summary>
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    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[This week, Curtis and Ryan are joined with special guest Trent England, Executive Director of Save Our States. The guys talk all things Electoral College, the threat of national popular vote and the 2020 presidential election.   Learn more about Save Our States: saveourstates.com  ]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p>This week, Curtis and Ryan are joined with special guest Trent England, Executive Director of Save Our States. The guys talk all things Electoral College, the threat of national popular vote and the 2020 presidential election. <br/><br/>Learn more about Save Our States: saveourstates.com </p>]]></description>
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