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    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[If healthcare is  focused around the patient, why is the patient journey filled with barriers and inconveniences? Are we looking at the whole picture?  It makes no sense!  This week, we talk with Dr. Marc Harrison, the CEO at Intermountain Healthcare about the patient experience throughout the continuum of care. We want to understand the challenges and opportunities at the systemwide-level, and hear how Intermountain is working on its patient journey from start to finish. ]]></itunes:summary>
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    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[If healthcare starts and ends with the patient, why is the patient experience becoming more about tech than humanity?  It makes no sense!  That's why in this episode, we talk to Chris Waugh, the Chief Design and Innovation Officer at Sutter Health. We’re hoping to learn more about the use of human-centered design within healthcare in an effort to make healthcare more human. From working with specialized bikes to his tenure at the global design-firm IDEO, Chris helps us break down his work at ...]]></itunes:summary>
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    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[If nurses are the largest workforce in healthcare, why do we have such a shortage of them? Is it simply unsustainable salaries and burnout? Or does it go as deep as the core of nurse education and the cracks within healthcare itself?  It makes no sense! In this episode, we talk to Katie Boston-Leary and Jackie Herd, two very accomplished nursing leaders who are working toward making the nursing profession more sustainable. We tap into their world, as we explore education, hiring and legi...]]></itunes:summary>
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