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    <itunes:title>Interview of Lance Cooper About This Podcast</itunes:title>
    <title>Interview of Lance Cooper About This Podcast</title>
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    <title>Episode 10, Part 3: Interview with Roseann Bacha-Garza</title>
    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[In this episode, I interview Professor Roseann Bacha-Garza, who teaches anthropology at the University of Texas Rio Grande Valley in Edinburg. She has been carrying out groundbreaking research of the runaway slave experience in far South Texas. Bacha-Garza has also published on the impact of the Civil War on that region. That topic is a little outside the scope of this podcast, but what she’s learned is so interesting that I think you’ll want to hear it. ]]></itunes:summary>
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    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Join archivist Kyle Ainsworth for an audio walking tour of the collections of Stephen F. Austin State University. The university’s archives are in Nacogdoches, one of the oldest communities in what is now Texas. ]]></itunes:summary>
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    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[How did enslaved Texans push back against their fate? In this episode, we talk about the ways that enslaved Texans resisted the system of slavery, including running away. ]]></itunes:summary>
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    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[In this Extra, hear Cassandra Berry and Mark Graham perform “Lift Every Voice and Sing” and “Saved All Day” in their entirety. Lance Cooper also introduces “Saved All Day” and provides background about the song. And listen to an interview of Berry and Graham as they explain how they brought the song back to life. ]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p>In this Extra, hear Cassandra Berry and Mark Graham perform “Lift Every Voice and Sing” and “Saved All Day” in their entirety. Lance Cooper also introduces “Saved All Day” and provides background about the song. And listen to an interview of Berry and Graham as they explain how they brought the song back to life.</p>]]></description>
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    <title>Episode 9: Family, Music, and Spiritual Beliefs</title>
    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[In this episode, we explore how family, tradition, music, and spiritual beliefs helped enslaved Texans endure life in a slave society. ]]></itunes:summary>
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    <pubDate>Fri, 01 Jul 2022 23:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
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    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[This episode explores a difficult topic -- the physical and emotional brutality faced by enslaved Texans.  ]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p>This episode explores a difficult topic -- the physical and emotional brutality faced by enslaved Texans. </p>]]></description>
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    <pubDate>Mon, 17 Jan 2022 17:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
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    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[In this episode, we explore what it was actually like to work as an enslaved person on a Texas plantation.  ]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we explore what it was actually like to work as an enslaved person on a Texas plantation. </p>]]></description>
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    <pubDate>Wed, 22 Dec 2021 14:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
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    <title>Episode 6: Texas -- A New Slave State</title>
    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[ Slavery boomed in Texas after the republic joined the Union as a state. This raised many questions for the new state: What was it like to be forcibly brought to Texas? How did bringing in thousands of enslaved workers affect Texas? How did the human-trafficking business in Texas affect the state and the people caught up in that system? What did slaveowners do to keep slavery profitable, and how did those actions affect enslaved Texans?  ]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p> Slavery boomed in Texas after the republic joined the Union as a state. This raised many questions for the new state: What was it like to be forcibly brought to Texas? How did bringing in thousands of enslaved workers affect Texas? How did the human-trafficking business in Texas affect the state and the people caught up in that system? What did slaveowners do to keep slavery profitable, and how did those actions affect enslaved Texans? </p>]]></description>
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    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Please join me for an interview with one of the leading scholars of slavery in Texas: Professor Andrew Torget of the University of North Texas.  ]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p>Please join me for an interview with one of the leading scholars of slavery in Texas: Professor Andrew Torget of the University of North Texas. </p>]]></description>
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    <itunes:title>Episode 4: John&#39;s Story</itunes:title>
    <title>Episode 4: John&#39;s Story</title>
    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[In this episode, we step outside the main narrative of slavery in Texas to consider the abrupt disappearance of John, an enslaved Texan, and the legal fallout caused by his disappearance. ]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we step outside the main narrative of slavery in Texas to consider the abrupt disappearance of John, an enslaved Texan, and the legal fallout caused by his disappearance.</p>]]></description>
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    <pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2021 10:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
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    <itunes:title>Episode 3: American Slavery: Bringing the Slave Society to Texas</itunes:title>
    <title>Episode 3: American Slavery: Bringing the Slave Society to Texas</title>
    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Slavery didn’t come to Texas by chance. This episode explores how Americans brought the slave society to Texas. ]]></itunes:summary>
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    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[What are the roots of slavery in Texas? In this episode, we examine how the American South became a slave society. ]]></itunes:summary>
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