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    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Send us Fan Mail Cover photo of Rick Allen - copyright Cindy Burnham, Lucky Shot Productions   Show Note:  0:00 Nautilus Productions' Co-Founder Rick Allen gives the history of Allen v. McCrory - suit against NC over Allen's footage of the Queen Anne's Revenge Shipwreck  1:20 SCOTUS’ 9-0 decision in Allen v. Cooper that the Copyright Remedy Clarification Act of 1990 (CRCA) was unconstitutional  2:00 NC’s technical arguments against Allen’s claims  2:55 court's use of ...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>Cover photo of Rick Allen - copyright Cindy Burnham, Lucky Shot Productions <br/><br/>Show Note: </p><p>0:00 Nautilus Productions&apos; Co-Founder Rick Allen gives the history of <a href='https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/4516624/allen-v-mccrory/?page=2'>Allen v. McCrory - suit against NC over Allen&apos;s footage of the Queen Anne&apos;s Revenge Shipwreck</a> </p><p>1:20 <a href='https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/19pdf/18-877_dc8f.pdf'>SCOTUS’ 9-0 decision in Allen v. Cooper that the Copyright Remedy Clarification Act of 1990 (CRCA) was unconstitutional</a> </p><p>2:00 NC’s technical arguments against Allen’s claims </p><p>2:55 court&apos;s use of pendant jurisdiction to wipe out 5 years of Allen’s case</p><p>3:45 <a href='https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/4516624/183/allen-v-mccrory/'>petition for rehearing en banc denied </a></p><p>6:45 states’ use of sovereign immunity against creators</p><p>8:50 Jeff Sedlik’s suit over use of his photo of Miles Davis as a tattoo  </p><p>9:30 Michael J. Bynum’s suit over Texas A&amp;M University’s unauthorized use of Bynum’s <em>12th Man</em> book (complaint <a href='https://courthousenews.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/Aggies-12th-Man-book.pdf'>here</a>; dismissal of copyright infringement claims against A&amp;M employee discussed <a href='https://legalnewsfeed.com/2026/02/18/texas-court-dismisses-copyright-infringement-claims-against-am-employee-citing-sovereign-immunity/'>here</a>)</p><p>11:00 Allen’s recommendations to artists to protect their work online</p><p>13:35 Emily Gould’s discussion of <a href='https://chatgptiseatingtheworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Hamburg-Regional-Court-decision-on-LAOIN-TDM-exception-ChatGPT-unofficial-English-translation-UPDATED-Sept-30-2024.pdf'><em>LAION</em> case</a> </p><p>17:00 Bartz v. Anthropic - <a href='https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69058235/231/bartz-v-anthropic-pbc/'>23 June 2025 Order on Fair Use in N.D. Cal.</a></p><p>19:50 Allen on opt out policy</p><p>20:20 <a href='https://www.blackburn.senate.gov/services/files/B3C29258-7177-46BB-887B-15A36653F066'>Visual Artists Copyright Reform Act (VACRA)</a></p><p>21:00 Gould on <a href='https://www.dacs.org.uk/news-events/artificial-intelligence-report'>survey by DACS (the Design and Artist’s Copyright Society) </a></p><p>23:00 response to UK government’s consultations </p><p>24:00 UK House of Lord’s hearings</p><p>24:30 Allen on artists not understanding impact of generative AI</p><p>26:00 Gould on <a href='https://www.judiciary.uk/wp-content/uploads/2025/11/Getty-Images-v-Stability-AI.pdf'>UK judgment from trial in <em>Getty v. Stability</em></a> </p><p>28:50 Gould on <a href='https://ifrro.org/resources/documents/General/German_Court_OpenAI_Memory_Output_Infringe_Copyright_NOV25.pdf'>judgment in <em>GEMA v. Open AI</em></a></p><p>31:55 Lauren Stein on ChatGPT and law school&apos;s encouragement to use AI </p><p>33:00 <em>Getty v. Stability</em> in UK – Getty’s drop of direct infringement claim and appeal of ruling on secondary infringement claim</p><p>35:50 UK’s Section 9(3) - copyright protection for original work created by a machine</p><p>39:20 Stein on copyrightability and Japan’s approach to sufficient human authorship</p><p>41:40 Gould on <a href='https://english.bjinternetcourt.gov.cn/pdf/BeijingInternetCourtCivilJudgment112792023.pdf'>Beijing Internet Court&apos;s judgment in <em>Li v. Liu</em></a></p><p>42:05 Allen’s position on AI</p><p>44:00 Gould on authenticity and human contribution</p><p>47:35 <a href='https://ed.newtonrex.com'>Ed Newton-Rex </a></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>Cover photo of Rick Allen - copyright Cindy Burnham, Lucky Shot Productions <br/><br/>Show Note: </p><p>0:00 Nautilus Productions&apos; Co-Founder Rick Allen gives the history of <a href='https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/4516624/allen-v-mccrory/?page=2'>Allen v. McCrory - suit against NC over Allen&apos;s footage of the Queen Anne&apos;s Revenge Shipwreck</a> </p><p>1:20 <a href='https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/19pdf/18-877_dc8f.pdf'>SCOTUS’ 9-0 decision in Allen v. Cooper that the Copyright Remedy Clarification Act of 1990 (CRCA) was unconstitutional</a> </p><p>2:00 NC’s technical arguments against Allen’s claims </p><p>2:55 court&apos;s use of pendant jurisdiction to wipe out 5 years of Allen’s case</p><p>3:45 <a href='https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/4516624/183/allen-v-mccrory/'>petition for rehearing en banc denied </a></p><p>6:45 states’ use of sovereign immunity against creators</p><p>8:50 Jeff Sedlik’s suit over use of his photo of Miles Davis as a tattoo  </p><p>9:30 Michael J. Bynum’s suit over Texas A&amp;M University’s unauthorized use of Bynum’s <em>12th Man</em> book (complaint <a href='https://courthousenews.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/Aggies-12th-Man-book.pdf'>here</a>; dismissal of copyright infringement claims against A&amp;M employee discussed <a href='https://legalnewsfeed.com/2026/02/18/texas-court-dismisses-copyright-infringement-claims-against-am-employee-citing-sovereign-immunity/'>here</a>)</p><p>11:00 Allen’s recommendations to artists to protect their work online</p><p>13:35 Emily Gould’s discussion of <a href='https://chatgptiseatingtheworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/Hamburg-Regional-Court-decision-on-LAOIN-TDM-exception-ChatGPT-unofficial-English-translation-UPDATED-Sept-30-2024.pdf'><em>LAION</em> case</a> </p><p>17:00 Bartz v. Anthropic - <a href='https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69058235/231/bartz-v-anthropic-pbc/'>23 June 2025 Order on Fair Use in N.D. Cal.</a></p><p>19:50 Allen on opt out policy</p><p>20:20 <a href='https://www.blackburn.senate.gov/services/files/B3C29258-7177-46BB-887B-15A36653F066'>Visual Artists Copyright Reform Act (VACRA)</a></p><p>21:00 Gould on <a href='https://www.dacs.org.uk/news-events/artificial-intelligence-report'>survey by DACS (the Design and Artist’s Copyright Society) </a></p><p>23:00 response to UK government’s consultations </p><p>24:00 UK House of Lord’s hearings</p><p>24:30 Allen on artists not understanding impact of generative AI</p><p>26:00 Gould on <a href='https://www.judiciary.uk/wp-content/uploads/2025/11/Getty-Images-v-Stability-AI.pdf'>UK judgment from trial in <em>Getty v. Stability</em></a> </p><p>28:50 Gould on <a href='https://ifrro.org/resources/documents/General/German_Court_OpenAI_Memory_Output_Infringe_Copyright_NOV25.pdf'>judgment in <em>GEMA v. Open AI</em></a></p><p>31:55 Lauren Stein on ChatGPT and law school&apos;s encouragement to use AI </p><p>33:00 <em>Getty v. Stability</em> in UK – Getty’s drop of direct infringement claim and appeal of ruling on secondary infringement claim</p><p>35:50 UK’s Section 9(3) - copyright protection for original work created by a machine</p><p>39:20 Stein on copyrightability and Japan’s approach to sufficient human authorship</p><p>41:40 Gould on <a href='https://english.bjinternetcourt.gov.cn/pdf/BeijingInternetCourtCivilJudgment112792023.pdf'>Beijing Internet Court&apos;s judgment in <em>Li v. Liu</em></a></p><p>42:05 Allen’s position on AI</p><p>44:00 Gould on authenticity and human contribution</p><p>47:35 <a href='https://ed.newtonrex.com'>Ed Newton-Rex </a></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <description><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>Photo of <a href='https://www.zoebuckman.com'>Zoë Buckman</a> by Abbey Drucker</p><p>show notes:</p><p>1:10 background as a multi-media visual artist</p><p>7:00 Buckman’s dialogue with agency</p><p>9:25 her use of embroidery</p><p>10:40 filmmaking</p><p>11:00 <a href='https://www.thebostoncalendar.com/events/zoe-buckman-show-me-your-bruises-then'>Show Me Your Bruises, Then</a></p><p>14:25 <a href='https://www.pamm.org/en/press/perez-art-museum-miami-announces-2026-exhibitions/'>exhibition at the Perez Museum </a></p><p>18:50 power of art</p><p>22:00 Artist Tracey Ehmann  </p><p>23:45 exploration of personal issues in her work </p><p>26:15 her work on Jewish personhood </p><p>34:30 erasure and gaslighting of Jewish artists</p><p>37:00 <a href='https://mindysolomon.com/artist/zoe-buckman/'>show at Mindy Solomon Gallery </a></p><p>41:00 Jewish people’s complicated relationship with the home</p><p>42:45 her definition of justice / injustice </p><p>45:40 how her work addresses her view of justice / injustice</p><p>49:30 use of vintage textiles</p><p>51:45 coffee table book</p><p>52:45 2027 NY show</p><p>53:30 collaboration with <a href='https://www.imdb.com/name/nm2685264/'>Actress Cush Jumbo</a></p><p>54:50 the legacy Buckman hopes to make with her work</p><p>56:15 multiple truths she addresses in her work</p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></description>
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    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Send us Fan Mail To learn more, please visit Ronnie Stephens' site and view his TEDx Talk 1:50 background of Ronnie’s “legacy journey” as a member of the Quapaw and Cherokee Tribes 3:30 1897 allotment of 240 acres to Stephens' great-grandfather 4:30 Quapaw Tribe’s relocation from Arkansas to Oklahoma  6:30 McGirt v. Oklahoma, 140 S. Ct. 2452 (2020) 9:00 issues identified by Tribal Leaders 10:50 Dawes Commission and Burke Act 17:00 management of allotted land 19:25 Emily Gould – question ...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>To learn more, please visit Ronnie Stephens&apos; <a href='https://sites.google.com/view/native-intent/home'>site</a> and view his <a href='https://youtu.be/rfM4BlCPr1Y?si=sDnHZaRBMdS9sIBJ'>TEDx Talk</a></p><p>1:50 background of Ronnie’s “legacy journey” as a member of the Quapaw and Cherokee Tribes</p><p>3:30 1897 <a href='https://www.okhistory.org/publications/enc/entry?entry=AL011'>allotment</a> of 240 acres to Stephens&apos; great-grandfather</p><p>4:30 <a href='https://www.quapawtribe.com/736/Overview-of-Quapaw-History'>Quapaw Tribe</a>’s relocation from Arkansas to Oklahoma </p><p>6:30 <a href='https://www.scotusblog.com/cases/case-files/mcgirt-v-oklahoma/'>McGirt v. Oklahoma, 140 S. Ct. 2452 (2020)</a></p><p>9:00 issues identified by Tribal Leaders</p><p>10:50 <a href='https://www.okhistory.org/publications/enc/entry?entry=DA018'>Dawes Commission</a> and <a href='https://www.okhistory.org/publications/enc/entry?entry=BU010'>Burke Act</a></p><p>17:00 management of allotted land</p><p>19:25 Emily Gould – question about allotted land </p><p>24:45 <a href='https://carnegiemuseums.org/carnegie-magazine/winter-2024/we-do-still-exist-and-were-thriving/'><em>Keeping Traditions Alive</em> exhibition</a></p><p>26:20 <a href='https://www.cnn.com/2023/10/21/entertainment/killers-of-the-flower-moon-osage-nation-cec/'>Killers of the Flower Moon rewritten with input from Osage Nation</a></p><p>27:55 <a href='https://echo.choctawnation.com'>Echo</a> film involved input from Choctaw Nation</p><p>30:00 Alan Robertshaw–<a href='https://www.imdb.com/title/tt11866324/'>Prey</a>-film with Native American heroine</p><p>31:55 <a href='https://www.imdb.com/title/tt15017118/'>Dark Winds</a> series</p><p>33:30 policy shifts needed </p><p>38:30 <a href='https://www.nps.gov/subjects/nagpra/regulations.htm'>NAGPRA and its amendments</a></p><p>43:45 education needed for cultural sensitivity </p><p>46:00 <a href='https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b01nqbqk'>BBC Documentary: Rich Hall’s Inventing the Indian</a></p><p>49:20 Lauren Gowler–question about historic US federal laws</p><p>55:00 definition of justice </p><p> </p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>To learn more, please visit Ronnie Stephens&apos; <a href='https://sites.google.com/view/native-intent/home'>site</a> and view his <a href='https://youtu.be/rfM4BlCPr1Y?si=sDnHZaRBMdS9sIBJ'>TEDx Talk</a></p><p>1:50 background of Ronnie’s “legacy journey” as a member of the Quapaw and Cherokee Tribes</p><p>3:30 1897 <a href='https://www.okhistory.org/publications/enc/entry?entry=AL011'>allotment</a> of 240 acres to Stephens&apos; great-grandfather</p><p>4:30 <a href='https://www.quapawtribe.com/736/Overview-of-Quapaw-History'>Quapaw Tribe</a>’s relocation from Arkansas to Oklahoma </p><p>6:30 <a href='https://www.scotusblog.com/cases/case-files/mcgirt-v-oklahoma/'>McGirt v. Oklahoma, 140 S. Ct. 2452 (2020)</a></p><p>9:00 issues identified by Tribal Leaders</p><p>10:50 <a href='https://www.okhistory.org/publications/enc/entry?entry=DA018'>Dawes Commission</a> and <a href='https://www.okhistory.org/publications/enc/entry?entry=BU010'>Burke Act</a></p><p>17:00 management of allotted land</p><p>19:25 Emily Gould – question about allotted land </p><p>24:45 <a href='https://carnegiemuseums.org/carnegie-magazine/winter-2024/we-do-still-exist-and-were-thriving/'><em>Keeping Traditions Alive</em> exhibition</a></p><p>26:20 <a href='https://www.cnn.com/2023/10/21/entertainment/killers-of-the-flower-moon-osage-nation-cec/'>Killers of the Flower Moon rewritten with input from Osage Nation</a></p><p>27:55 <a href='https://echo.choctawnation.com'>Echo</a> film involved input from Choctaw Nation</p><p>30:00 Alan Robertshaw–<a href='https://www.imdb.com/title/tt11866324/'>Prey</a>-film with Native American heroine</p><p>31:55 <a href='https://www.imdb.com/title/tt15017118/'>Dark Winds</a> series</p><p>33:30 policy shifts needed </p><p>38:30 <a href='https://www.nps.gov/subjects/nagpra/regulations.htm'>NAGPRA and its amendments</a></p><p>43:45 education needed for cultural sensitivity </p><p>46:00 <a href='https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b01nqbqk'>BBC Documentary: Rich Hall’s Inventing the Indian</a></p><p>49:20 Lauren Gowler–question about historic US federal laws</p><p>55:00 definition of justice </p><p> </p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <title>Aurelian Lawyers &amp; Advisers&#39; Director &amp; Founder Alana Kushnir on Antisemitism in the Arts, Education on the Depth of Jewish Culture and History, and the Moral Component of Justice </title>
    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Send us Fan Mail Photographer credit: Simon Strong Here is more information about Alana Kushnir and Aurelian Lawyers &amp; Advisers. Show Notes: 1:45 update since Alana’s 2021 interview at Ep. 43 3:45 rebranding to Aurelian Lawyers &amp; Advisers 5:00 LinkedIn posts by Alana and Guest Work Agency 8:00 antisemitism in the arts   13:00 resignation from Australian Centre for Contemporary Art’s Board 13:35 Australian news article led to her public cancellation  15:55 Serpentine Gallery'...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>Photographer credit: Simon Strong</p><p><a href='https://aurelian.art/alana-kushnir'>Here</a> is more information about Alana Kushnir and Aurelian Lawyers &amp; Advisers.</p><p>Show Notes:</p><p>1:45 update since Alana’s 2021 interview at Ep. 43</p><p>3:45 rebranding to Aurelian Lawyers &amp; Advisers</p><p>5:00 <a href='https://www.linkedin.com/posts/alana-kushnir-469356a_two-years-ago-in-late-october-2023-i-resigned-share-7406966228847661056-TFzn?utm_source=share&amp;utm_medium=member_desktop&amp;rcm=ACoAAAtfKMMBYelk9PCW2E3QHIutR8sRedPWlcI'>LinkedIn posts by Alana and Guest Work Agency</a></p><p>8:00 antisemitism in the arts  </p><p>13:00 resignation from Australian Centre for Contemporary Art’s Board</p><p>13:35 Australian news article led to her public cancellation </p><p>15:55 Serpentine Gallery&apos;s removal of her after 5 years as the lead on its research programme, <a href='https://www.serpentinegalleries.org/whats-on/legal-lab/'>The Legal Lab</a></p><p>20:00 steps forward to address hypocrisy in the arts sector</p><p>20:55 service on Jewish Museum of Australia’s board</p><p>21:40 her curation of <a href='https://www.jewishmuseum.com.au/exhibitions/chutzpah-spirit-recollection-self/'>Chutzpah: Spirit. Recollection. Self.</a></p><p>23:20 <a href='https://ninasanadze.com/bio/'>Georgian Artist Nina Sanadze</a>&apos;s “Call to Peace” Series</p><p>27:40 Sanadze’s use of flowers from Bondi Massacre in future sculpture</p><p>30:30 <a href='https://www.elinorsahm.com/halaylajma'>Israeli-German Artist Elinor Sahm’s &quot;Ha&apos;layla&quot;</a></p><p>31:30 Simm’s family archive used to show a Jerusalemite-Sepheradic “Hafla” (traditional celebration and gathering)</p><p>33:35 Alana&apos;s aim to bring back the depth of Jewish culture and history</p><p>37:25 Alana’s dream project to highlight the Jewish community&apos;s contribution to Australia&apos;s culture, especially Jewish women</p><p>39:30 education to bring together Jewish and non-Jewish communities</p><p>42:50 current relevance of the Holocaust</p><p>45:00 Jewish community from former USSR at the Bondi massacre</p><p>46:50 moral courage as a form of justice</p><p>48:00 legacy to create culture not fear, to emphasize integrity and loyalty </p><p>49:15 her work with <a href='https://www.melbournefoodandwine.com.au/people/five-minutes-with-a-legend-rinaldo-di-stasio/'>Arts Patron and Hospitality Icon Rinaldo Di Stasio </a></p><p>50:05  Di Stasio’s commission of <a href='https://www.linkedin.com/in/sean-gladwell-234502161/'>Artist Sean Gladwell</a> for a moving image work in <a href='https://www.distasio.com.au/citta/'>flagship restaurant, Di Stasio Città </a></p><p><br/></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>Photographer credit: Simon Strong</p><p><a href='https://aurelian.art/alana-kushnir'>Here</a> is more information about Alana Kushnir and Aurelian Lawyers &amp; Advisers.</p><p>Show Notes:</p><p>1:45 update since Alana’s 2021 interview at Ep. 43</p><p>3:45 rebranding to Aurelian Lawyers &amp; Advisers</p><p>5:00 <a href='https://www.linkedin.com/posts/alana-kushnir-469356a_two-years-ago-in-late-october-2023-i-resigned-share-7406966228847661056-TFzn?utm_source=share&amp;utm_medium=member_desktop&amp;rcm=ACoAAAtfKMMBYelk9PCW2E3QHIutR8sRedPWlcI'>LinkedIn posts by Alana and Guest Work Agency</a></p><p>8:00 antisemitism in the arts  </p><p>13:00 resignation from Australian Centre for Contemporary Art’s Board</p><p>13:35 Australian news article led to her public cancellation </p><p>15:55 Serpentine Gallery&apos;s removal of her after 5 years as the lead on its research programme, <a href='https://www.serpentinegalleries.org/whats-on/legal-lab/'>The Legal Lab</a></p><p>20:00 steps forward to address hypocrisy in the arts sector</p><p>20:55 service on Jewish Museum of Australia’s board</p><p>21:40 her curation of <a href='https://www.jewishmuseum.com.au/exhibitions/chutzpah-spirit-recollection-self/'>Chutzpah: Spirit. Recollection. Self.</a></p><p>23:20 <a href='https://ninasanadze.com/bio/'>Georgian Artist Nina Sanadze</a>&apos;s “Call to Peace” Series</p><p>27:40 Sanadze’s use of flowers from Bondi Massacre in future sculpture</p><p>30:30 <a href='https://www.elinorsahm.com/halaylajma'>Israeli-German Artist Elinor Sahm’s &quot;Ha&apos;layla&quot;</a></p><p>31:30 Simm’s family archive used to show a Jerusalemite-Sepheradic “Hafla” (traditional celebration and gathering)</p><p>33:35 Alana&apos;s aim to bring back the depth of Jewish culture and history</p><p>37:25 Alana’s dream project to highlight the Jewish community&apos;s contribution to Australia&apos;s culture, especially Jewish women</p><p>39:30 education to bring together Jewish and non-Jewish communities</p><p>42:50 current relevance of the Holocaust</p><p>45:00 Jewish community from former USSR at the Bondi massacre</p><p>46:50 moral courage as a form of justice</p><p>48:00 legacy to create culture not fear, to emphasize integrity and loyalty </p><p>49:15 her work with <a href='https://www.melbournefoodandwine.com.au/people/five-minutes-with-a-legend-rinaldo-di-stasio/'>Arts Patron and Hospitality Icon Rinaldo Di Stasio </a></p><p>50:05  Di Stasio’s commission of <a href='https://www.linkedin.com/in/sean-gladwell-234502161/'>Artist Sean Gladwell</a> for a moving image work in <a href='https://www.distasio.com.au/citta/'>flagship restaurant, Di Stasio Città </a></p><p><br/></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p><a href='https://email.mg.artfulmail.net/c/eJwUysFygyAQANCvgWMGWDBy4ECj_EZm0bXQqSXjYp3-fSf3twYDYLcsKei7827UAwxyQ27PnZjxk551DeC91qO_yxKcx9XkRanNugxOAyoYF2WyJqsUDrKGNA2QHgkmB95Gmz5iGkY_zXFO0xwfXlh1UTZOfofS-4sFRGGSMOm6rlvGP-p0NGbeay-3pe3CJMzt7PII3OlV8KeSsAqPXvDkrR1fJ_e60NvK32D-AwAA__8ozUEA'>multidisciplinary artist/visual journalist/filmmaker/education worker Bayeté Ross Smith</a></p><p>Show Notes:</p><p>2:00 Bayeté Ross Smith’s background, work and collaboration</p><p>7:00 relevance of colonialism in transnational issues </p><p>9:50 collective brain trust/collective culture</p><p>14:30 employing technology with storytelling</p><p>20:30 creatives’ protection of their metadata</p><p>24:40 “art” and “data” as information </p><p>27:50 “human authorship” and copyright </p><p>34:25 bias proliferation with AI</p><p>39:40 power of art and media to raise awareness </p><p>44:50 “restorative justice” to mitigate and deter harm so individuals can flourish</p><p>54:00 <a href='https://www.bayeterosssmith.com/shows-and-projects'>current and future projects, including Got the Power Boomboxes: Sugar Cane and Cotton, Hip Hop 50 Boombox</a>, video game project and collaboration with legal community</p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Send us Fan Mail IP attorney Massimo Sterpi Massimo Sterpi photo by Eolo Perfido  Show Notes: 1:30 Sterpi’s work with emerging tech 2:30 shift in use of emerging tech/arts issues 3:55 Brazilian artist Eduardo Kac's transgenic work 4:30 blockchain / NFT as a testing area 5:10 generative AI and copyright 6:20 copyrighted works as training data  12:25 11 Nov 2025 judgment by Munich Regional Court in GEMA v. OpenAI (Case No. 42 O 14139/24) 14:20 fair use in the US 17:05 copyright of out...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p><a href='https://email.mg.artfulmail.net/c/eJwEwEHOqyAQAODTwNIIAygLFr7iXMNQGZQXq0Rovf7_RScBVHpzcmLQVo_CgOEp1Gv5UK1hoyVHB9YKMdqB725YY1JRjCMZCGoFASJakxL1RhndR54degP4QvAarJoU_pvQjNbP04x-nl6Wqf6ht9T8cHtrpTKYmEQm8XmebrtKlxuTWOgqBy2_TE9X9sIAj3BuDDydG5MmRwZ-EJrfrjYqezgzMdWHu-3hW9N1___Wllfq1uvDf07-BQAA__95rUZ-'>IP attorney Massimo Sterpi</a></p><p>Massimo Sterpi photo by <a href='https://www.eoloperfido.com/faq'>Eolo Perfido</a> </p><p>Show Notes:</p><p>1:30 Sterpi’s work with emerging tech</p><p>2:30 shift in use of emerging tech/arts issues</p><p>3:55 Brazilian artist Eduardo Kac&apos;s transgenic work</p><p>4:30 blockchain / NFT as a testing area</p><p>5:10 generative AI and copyright</p><p>6:20 copyrighted works as training data </p><p>12:25 11 Nov 2025 judgment by Munich Regional Court in <em>GEMA v. OpenAI</em> (Case No. 42 O 14139/24)</p><p>14:20 fair use in the US</p><p>17:05 copyright of outputs</p><p>23:55 &quot;A Single Piece of American Cheese&quot;</p><p>26:00 <em>Gema</em> decision’s impact on OpenAI’s business model</p><p>29:00 UK decision in <em>Getty v. Stability AI</em></p><p>32:30 harmonisation </p><p>34:20 collective licensing as a solution for AI training</p><p>36:20 view of justice/injustice with emerging tech in the arts</p><p>38:40 cultural impact of emerging tech</p><p>42:00 Christie’s auction of &quot;Portrait of Edmond de Belamy&quot;</p><p>43:40 2024 Venice Biennale - The Conference on Art and AI’s “The Neo-Synthetic: A Dialogue on Art, A.I., and Emergent Aesthetics”</p><p>44:30 expanding area regarding the roles involved in outputs</p><p>46:40 authenticity becoming enigmatic</p><p>47:00 attempts to create digital scarcity</p><p>47:55 different standards of creativity </p><p>48:30 neighboring rights for AI</p><p>50:00 Italy’s protection of “simple photographs” versus “photographic works”</p><p>50:40 UK’s Section 9(3) copyright of outputs fictionally attributed to human involved</p><p>52:40 Agentic AI  </p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p><a href='https://email.mg.artfulmail.net/c/eJwEwEHOqyAQAODTwNIIAygLFr7iXMNQGZQXq0Rovf7_RScBVHpzcmLQVo_CgOEp1Gv5UK1hoyVHB9YKMdqB725YY1JRjCMZCGoFASJakxL1RhndR54degP4QvAarJoU_pvQjNbP04x-nl6Wqf6ht9T8cHtrpTKYmEQm8XmebrtKlxuTWOgqBy2_TE9X9sIAj3BuDDydG5MmRwZ-EJrfrjYqezgzMdWHu-3hW9N1___Wllfq1uvDf07-BQAA__95rUZ-'>IP attorney Massimo Sterpi</a></p><p>Massimo Sterpi photo by <a href='https://www.eoloperfido.com/faq'>Eolo Perfido</a> </p><p>Show Notes:</p><p>1:30 Sterpi’s work with emerging tech</p><p>2:30 shift in use of emerging tech/arts issues</p><p>3:55 Brazilian artist Eduardo Kac&apos;s transgenic work</p><p>4:30 blockchain / NFT as a testing area</p><p>5:10 generative AI and copyright</p><p>6:20 copyrighted works as training data </p><p>12:25 11 Nov 2025 judgment by Munich Regional Court in <em>GEMA v. OpenAI</em> (Case No. 42 O 14139/24)</p><p>14:20 fair use in the US</p><p>17:05 copyright of outputs</p><p>23:55 &quot;A Single Piece of American Cheese&quot;</p><p>26:00 <em>Gema</em> decision’s impact on OpenAI’s business model</p><p>29:00 UK decision in <em>Getty v. Stability AI</em></p><p>32:30 harmonisation </p><p>34:20 collective licensing as a solution for AI training</p><p>36:20 view of justice/injustice with emerging tech in the arts</p><p>38:40 cultural impact of emerging tech</p><p>42:00 Christie’s auction of &quot;Portrait of Edmond de Belamy&quot;</p><p>43:40 2024 Venice Biennale - The Conference on Art and AI’s “The Neo-Synthetic: A Dialogue on Art, A.I., and Emergent Aesthetics”</p><p>44:30 expanding area regarding the roles involved in outputs</p><p>46:40 authenticity becoming enigmatic</p><p>47:00 attempts to create digital scarcity</p><p>47:55 different standards of creativity </p><p>48:30 neighboring rights for AI</p><p>50:00 Italy’s protection of “simple photographs” versus “photographic works”</p><p>50:40 UK’s Section 9(3) copyright of outputs fictionally attributed to human involved</p><p>52:40 Agentic AI  </p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <description><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>Link <a href='https://www.marinaheintze.com'>here</a> to learn more about Marina Heintze.</p><p>Show Notes:</p><p>1:00 Heintze’s background in the arts</p><p>2:30 sculptures of Heintze&apos;s father</p><p>3:30 Heintze’s use of materials</p><p>5:30 current events addressed in Heintze’s work</p><p>6:20 Politics series – gerrymandering</p><p>7:25 Bullet proof vests – assassinations and deviseness </p><p>7:45 Holocaust addressed in her work like “Gentian Violet Violence”</p><p>8:30 &quot;Yitler” and “Dog Whistle” pieces</p><p>9:50 Heintze’s family research that led her to work with bone planters</p><p>11:20 archival research used in her work</p><p>13:35 &quot;The eyes are the windows to the neshama/soul&quot;  </p><p>15:20 Lure series regarding nefarious organizations </p><p>19:50 how/whether her works address justice/injustice</p><p>21:50 work related to B2 bombers</p><p>22:50 Tunnel Talk / Vision series</p><p>27:25 feedback on Tunnel Talk / Vision series</p><p>31:40 Banksy image removed from Royal Courts of Justice </p><p>34:15 Holocaust denial and free speech</p><p>36:40 Alan Robertshaw – importance of work on the Holocaust</p><p>38:45 <em>David Irving v Penguin Books and Deborah Lipstadt</em> – 1996 UK Judgment </p><p>42:20 facts of genocide/terrorist acts </p><p>48:10 camouflage IP</p><p>50:30 design of Arab nation flags</p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>Link <a href='https://www.marinaheintze.com'>here</a> to learn more about Marina Heintze.</p><p>Show Notes:</p><p>1:00 Heintze’s background in the arts</p><p>2:30 sculptures of Heintze&apos;s father</p><p>3:30 Heintze’s use of materials</p><p>5:30 current events addressed in Heintze’s work</p><p>6:20 Politics series – gerrymandering</p><p>7:25 Bullet proof vests – assassinations and deviseness </p><p>7:45 Holocaust addressed in her work like “Gentian Violet Violence”</p><p>8:30 &quot;Yitler” and “Dog Whistle” pieces</p><p>9:50 Heintze’s family research that led her to work with bone planters</p><p>11:20 archival research used in her work</p><p>13:35 &quot;The eyes are the windows to the neshama/soul&quot;  </p><p>15:20 Lure series regarding nefarious organizations </p><p>19:50 how/whether her works address justice/injustice</p><p>21:50 work related to B2 bombers</p><p>22:50 Tunnel Talk / Vision series</p><p>27:25 feedback on Tunnel Talk / Vision series</p><p>31:40 Banksy image removed from Royal Courts of Justice </p><p>34:15 Holocaust denial and free speech</p><p>36:40 Alan Robertshaw – importance of work on the Holocaust</p><p>38:45 <em>David Irving v Penguin Books and Deborah Lipstadt</em> – 1996 UK Judgment </p><p>42:20 facts of genocide/terrorist acts </p><p>48:10 camouflage IP</p><p>50:30 design of Arab nation flags</p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <description><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p><b>Photographer credit for Anja Neubauer:</b> <em>self-portrait created with an AI tool.</em></p><p>Show Notes:</p><p>2:30 <a href='https://www.samford.edu/law/faculty/McFarlin-Article-Explores-Possible-Impact-of-the-Future-of-Copyright-Law'>Prof. Tim McFarlin</a>’s focus on copyright and authorship</p><p>3:30 <a href='https://www.eca.ed.ac.uk/profile/dr-caterina-moruzzi'>Dr. Caterina Moruzzi</a>’s philosophical/design perspective / focus on authenticity</p><p>5:00 <a href='https://ainja.de/about/'>Dr. Anja Neubauer</a>&apos;s focus on global AI/copyright framework</p><p>5:50 <a href='https://www.lisalebofsky.com/'>Artist Lisa Lebofsky</a>’s perspective on AI as a nomadic painter</p><p>8:45 “Authenticity Unmasked”–looking at the artistic process not the product</p><p>9:55 “Authenticity Unmasked” insight-centrality of human perspective</p><p>12:00 Neubauer–redefinition of terms like originality in light of emerging tech</p><p>13:30<em> Getty v. Stability</em> finding  outputs are not copies so not infringements</p><p>14:55 McFarland–genAI’s scale and redefining understanding of terms</p><p>17:05 US state and federal laws </p><p>19:00 need for unified global protection</p><p>19:50 Alan Robershaw – UK <em>Getty</em> decision’s technical focus on the process </p><p>21:40 Defining originality </p><p>22:10 <em>Getty</em> opinion at 601 v. AI models are memorizing/making copies </p><p>24:00 Robertshaw - one step away from judicial definition of consciousness</p><p>24:40 McFarland – scale is the concern</p><p>25:35 Lebofsky – how prior claims of infringement fit into AI/appropriation of artists’ works</p><p>26:20 McFarland – ‘substantially similar’ takings are prima facie infringement subject to fair use defense</p><p>27:10 consideration of outputs flooding the market harm </p><p>29:25 Lebofsky – use of AI through tools like AI Charm Lab app </p><p>31:00 Lebofsky’s view of threats to her style and her language </p><p>32:45 human requirement for ‘authorship’ and consumer trends</p><p>35:55 Moruzzi – human effort to value the process</p><p>37:15 Process visible in generative AI circa 2015 v. current genAI’s less visibility and thus less authenticity</p><p>38:30 Anthroprocentric – human need for authorship</p><p>40:20 Robershaw - Monkey-selfie case; animal versus machine personhood </p><p>43:15 McFarland – Arkansas statute on AI</p><p>44:40 Gould – UK Section 9(3) - limited copyright for output in person who organized the output</p><p>45:00 Neubauer – issue of term “equipment” for tools </p><p>46:50 Gould – current copyright legislation is not fit for purpose</p><p>48:35 Distinction between camera use and AI model training</p><p>49:05 <em>Copyright Criminals</em> documentary regarding music sampling </p><p>50:00 Sampling case involving Kraftwerk </p><p>51:35 Moruzzi – response to consultations</p><p>53:00 McFarland – extent of law v. parallel tracks to copyright or other alternatives to preserve and protect human creativity</p><p>54:00 Stefania Salles Bruins–solutions outside the law</p><p>54:40 Copyright not fit for purpose </p><p>55:20 Neubauer - Shift in definition of artwork</p><p>55:45 Lebofsky – how to establish boundaries</p><p>57:25 Lebofsky’s work</p><p><br/></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p><b>Photographer credit for Anja Neubauer:</b> <em>self-portrait created with an AI tool.</em></p><p>Show Notes:</p><p>2:30 <a href='https://www.samford.edu/law/faculty/McFarlin-Article-Explores-Possible-Impact-of-the-Future-of-Copyright-Law'>Prof. Tim McFarlin</a>’s focus on copyright and authorship</p><p>3:30 <a href='https://www.eca.ed.ac.uk/profile/dr-caterina-moruzzi'>Dr. Caterina Moruzzi</a>’s philosophical/design perspective / focus on authenticity</p><p>5:00 <a href='https://ainja.de/about/'>Dr. Anja Neubauer</a>&apos;s focus on global AI/copyright framework</p><p>5:50 <a href='https://www.lisalebofsky.com/'>Artist Lisa Lebofsky</a>’s perspective on AI as a nomadic painter</p><p>8:45 “Authenticity Unmasked”–looking at the artistic process not the product</p><p>9:55 “Authenticity Unmasked” insight-centrality of human perspective</p><p>12:00 Neubauer–redefinition of terms like originality in light of emerging tech</p><p>13:30<em> Getty v. Stability</em> finding  outputs are not copies so not infringements</p><p>14:55 McFarland–genAI’s scale and redefining understanding of terms</p><p>17:05 US state and federal laws </p><p>19:00 need for unified global protection</p><p>19:50 Alan Robershaw – UK <em>Getty</em> decision’s technical focus on the process </p><p>21:40 Defining originality </p><p>22:10 <em>Getty</em> opinion at 601 v. AI models are memorizing/making copies </p><p>24:00 Robertshaw - one step away from judicial definition of consciousness</p><p>24:40 McFarland – scale is the concern</p><p>25:35 Lebofsky – how prior claims of infringement fit into AI/appropriation of artists’ works</p><p>26:20 McFarland – ‘substantially similar’ takings are prima facie infringement subject to fair use defense</p><p>27:10 consideration of outputs flooding the market harm </p><p>29:25 Lebofsky – use of AI through tools like AI Charm Lab app </p><p>31:00 Lebofsky’s view of threats to her style and her language </p><p>32:45 human requirement for ‘authorship’ and consumer trends</p><p>35:55 Moruzzi – human effort to value the process</p><p>37:15 Process visible in generative AI circa 2015 v. current genAI’s less visibility and thus less authenticity</p><p>38:30 Anthroprocentric – human need for authorship</p><p>40:20 Robershaw - Monkey-selfie case; animal versus machine personhood </p><p>43:15 McFarland – Arkansas statute on AI</p><p>44:40 Gould – UK Section 9(3) - limited copyright for output in person who organized the output</p><p>45:00 Neubauer – issue of term “equipment” for tools </p><p>46:50 Gould – current copyright legislation is not fit for purpose</p><p>48:35 Distinction between camera use and AI model training</p><p>49:05 <em>Copyright Criminals</em> documentary regarding music sampling </p><p>50:00 Sampling case involving Kraftwerk </p><p>51:35 Moruzzi – response to consultations</p><p>53:00 McFarland – extent of law v. parallel tracks to copyright or other alternatives to preserve and protect human creativity</p><p>54:00 Stefania Salles Bruins–solutions outside the law</p><p>54:40 Copyright not fit for purpose </p><p>55:20 Neubauer - Shift in definition of artwork</p><p>55:45 Lebofsky – how to establish boundaries</p><p>57:25 Lebofsky’s work</p><p><br/></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Send us Fan Mail Show Notes: 1:45 Lawrence Badzin - introduction of The Surviving Project 5:45 three parts of Through Their Eyes Exhibition 7:00 Wings of Hope messages 9:00 stories from the delegation 10:15 exhibition mission 11:30 future cities for the exhibition: Chicago, Atlanta, LA, NYC, Toronto 12:40 how the exhibition addresses theme of drawing strength from what’s lost 15:00 defining justice – the way of getting back is continuing on 16:30 legacy of the exhibition  18:00 Through T...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>Show Notes:</p><p>1:45 Lawrence Badzin - introduction of The Surviving Project</p><p>5:45 three parts of <a href='https://tteexhibit.com/?v=0b3b97fa6688'>Through Their Eyes Exhibition</a></p><p>7:00 Wings of Hope messages</p><p>9:00 stories from the delegation</p><p>10:15 exhibition mission</p><p>11:30 future cities for the exhibition: Chicago, Atlanta, LA, NYC, Toronto</p><p>12:40 how the exhibition addresses theme of drawing strength from what’s lost</p><p>15:00 defining justice – the way of getting back is continuing on</p><p>16:30 legacy of the exhibition </p><p>18:00 <a href='https://tteexhibit.com/?v=0b3b97fa6688'>Through Their Eyes Exhibition</a></p><p><br/></p><p><br/></p><p><br/></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>Show Notes:</p><p>1:45 Lawrence Badzin - introduction of The Surviving Project</p><p>5:45 three parts of <a href='https://tteexhibit.com/?v=0b3b97fa6688'>Through Their Eyes Exhibition</a></p><p>7:00 Wings of Hope messages</p><p>9:00 stories from the delegation</p><p>10:15 exhibition mission</p><p>11:30 future cities for the exhibition: Chicago, Atlanta, LA, NYC, Toronto</p><p>12:40 how the exhibition addresses theme of drawing strength from what’s lost</p><p>15:00 defining justice – the way of getting back is continuing on</p><p>16:30 legacy of the exhibition </p><p>18:00 <a href='https://tteexhibit.com/?v=0b3b97fa6688'>Through Their Eyes Exhibition</a></p><p><br/></p><p><br/></p><p><br/></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <description><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>Oluwatobi Aluko photo by Praise Samuel</p><p>Show Notes:</p><p>2:50 <a href='https://email.mg.artfulmail.net/c/eJwUzFFygyAQANDTwF8ygQVkP_iwMXuNzKJYaYxkBOv1O73Am4IGMHOUKajOovXKgZMz1_J8p1r5Oz3zFABRKY-dXEJETsjagnXKzXoasYsqemNAebaIMgcaHNCdYLCApjf01ZPzODz6Bw2P_o7C3M4UtZVrWFr7VAG90CQ0ned5XfP2SlPermN5C015E5paifnC6_EqF4aInVfGCU1yD7Wlz8JbTsLceG8LH3Uu-89RWx7TPyF_g_4LAAD__9s2RD8'>Tobi Aluko</a>–Nigerian copyright </p><p>5:30 Nigeria’s national AI strategy and creative sector </p><p>7:25 <a href='https://ial.uk.com/about/'>Emily Gould</a> – query on tech sector’s strength in Nigeria</p><p>9:40 debate over UK’s copyright provision for machine-generated work</p><p>11:40 <a href='https://www.linkedin.com/in/johan-cedmar-brandstedt-a77b311/'>Johan Brandstedt</a> - Sweden’s approach to copyright </p><p>13:40 <a href='https://www.technologyslegaledge.com/2024/04/the-first-czech-case-on-generative-ai/'>Czech Republic case on AI and copyrightability</a> </p><p>16:40 Aluko – prompting versus creating art that involves effort/process</p><p>19:00 US copyright for <a href='https://vimeo.com/1054656471'>A Single Piece of American Cheese </a></p><p>20:30 <a href='https://email.mg.artfulmail.net/c/eJwEwE2SrCAMAODTwO5ZSlTIgoWvNdfoihJ_pnTsIjhz_flSdADtOluJje-wC00PvV1Z7_clqrzJ-0gREJsmoLd7XINvltmDg-CSR98HmOsOhTnVC9Zoj0hjD_QiGDvAdmjp_0B9wHEaJhqn4YWmrX9ldp09417KRw0MxpFxpEcRrfJTNslaSXqMI94vSf_k3Pi6-DSObI5a5LPz9yGmrTmXnR9d7_z1aDkWqZb7sj_R_QUAAP__hKpCWw'>Prof. Ahmed Elgammal</a> - background of AI use in the arts</p><p>23:45 19th C. French case on copyright of photographs that show originality </p><p>24:45 US refusal to copyright AI outputs </p><p>26:35 <a href='https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69058235/bartz-v-anthropic-pbc/'><em>Bartz v. Anthropic</em></a> and <a href='https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/67569326/kadrey-v-meta-platforms-inc/'><em>Kadrey v. Meta</em></a> </p><p>30:45 <a href='https://www.aican.io'>AICAN project</a></p><p>32:55 GAN-based art movement celebrated prior to prompting</p><p>33:55 <a href='https://news.artnet.com/art-world/ahmed-elgammal-op-ed-ai-art-is-over-2304028'>“Text-to-Image Generators Have Altered the Digital Art Landscape—But Killed Creativity. Here’s Why an Era of A.I. Art Is Over”</a></p><p>34:25 <a href='https://www.mdpi.com/2076-0752/8/1/26'>artists survey on value from AI</a></p><p>37:15 <a href='https://www.ft.com/content/e8c7b729-f87a-408c-a2be-76f8da489ba2'>backlash of Christies’ auction of Generative AI works </a></p><p>41:50 Elgammal – effort versus intentionality e.g., <a href='https://www.moma.org/collection/terms/dada/marcel-duchamp-and-the-readymade'>DuChamp/ready-made art</a></p><p>42:30 intentionality and agency missing with prompting and random output </p><p>51:40 AI&apos;s cultural impact </p><p>1:04:30 <a href='https://youtu.be/Rvj3Oblscqw?si=q2D6QA19XOGlaziJ'>Beethoven X project </a></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>Oluwatobi Aluko photo by Praise Samuel</p><p>Show Notes:</p><p>2:50 <a href='https://email.mg.artfulmail.net/c/eJwUzFFygyAQANDTwF8ygQVkP_iwMXuNzKJYaYxkBOv1O73Am4IGMHOUKajOovXKgZMz1_J8p1r5Oz3zFABRKY-dXEJETsjagnXKzXoasYsqemNAebaIMgcaHNCdYLCApjf01ZPzODz6Bw2P_o7C3M4UtZVrWFr7VAG90CQ0ned5XfP2SlPermN5C015E5paifnC6_EqF4aInVfGCU1yD7Wlz8JbTsLceG8LH3Uu-89RWx7TPyF_g_4LAAD__9s2RD8'>Tobi Aluko</a>–Nigerian copyright </p><p>5:30 Nigeria’s national AI strategy and creative sector </p><p>7:25 <a href='https://ial.uk.com/about/'>Emily Gould</a> – query on tech sector’s strength in Nigeria</p><p>9:40 debate over UK’s copyright provision for machine-generated work</p><p>11:40 <a href='https://www.linkedin.com/in/johan-cedmar-brandstedt-a77b311/'>Johan Brandstedt</a> - Sweden’s approach to copyright </p><p>13:40 <a href='https://www.technologyslegaledge.com/2024/04/the-first-czech-case-on-generative-ai/'>Czech Republic case on AI and copyrightability</a> </p><p>16:40 Aluko – prompting versus creating art that involves effort/process</p><p>19:00 US copyright for <a href='https://vimeo.com/1054656471'>A Single Piece of American Cheese </a></p><p>20:30 <a href='https://email.mg.artfulmail.net/c/eJwEwE2SrCAMAODTwO5ZSlTIgoWvNdfoihJ_pnTsIjhz_flSdADtOluJje-wC00PvV1Z7_clqrzJ-0gREJsmoLd7XINvltmDg-CSR98HmOsOhTnVC9Zoj0hjD_QiGDvAdmjp_0B9wHEaJhqn4YWmrX9ldp09417KRw0MxpFxpEcRrfJTNslaSXqMI94vSf_k3Pi6-DSObI5a5LPz9yGmrTmXnR9d7_z1aDkWqZb7sj_R_QUAAP__hKpCWw'>Prof. Ahmed Elgammal</a> - background of AI use in the arts</p><p>23:45 19th C. French case on copyright of photographs that show originality </p><p>24:45 US refusal to copyright AI outputs </p><p>26:35 <a href='https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69058235/bartz-v-anthropic-pbc/'><em>Bartz v. Anthropic</em></a> and <a href='https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/67569326/kadrey-v-meta-platforms-inc/'><em>Kadrey v. Meta</em></a> </p><p>30:45 <a href='https://www.aican.io'>AICAN project</a></p><p>32:55 GAN-based art movement celebrated prior to prompting</p><p>33:55 <a href='https://news.artnet.com/art-world/ahmed-elgammal-op-ed-ai-art-is-over-2304028'>“Text-to-Image Generators Have Altered the Digital Art Landscape—But Killed Creativity. Here’s Why an Era of A.I. Art Is Over”</a></p><p>34:25 <a href='https://www.mdpi.com/2076-0752/8/1/26'>artists survey on value from AI</a></p><p>37:15 <a href='https://www.ft.com/content/e8c7b729-f87a-408c-a2be-76f8da489ba2'>backlash of Christies’ auction of Generative AI works </a></p><p>41:50 Elgammal – effort versus intentionality e.g., <a href='https://www.moma.org/collection/terms/dada/marcel-duchamp-and-the-readymade'>DuChamp/ready-made art</a></p><p>42:30 intentionality and agency missing with prompting and random output </p><p>51:40 AI&apos;s cultural impact </p><p>1:04:30 <a href='https://youtu.be/Rvj3Oblscqw?si=q2D6QA19XOGlaziJ'>Beethoven X project </a></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Send us Fan Mail Show Notes: 1:30 background 2:45 shift to add activist element to her art 4:00 response to 7 October 2023 during residency at LMCC  5:30 ‘artivism’ 5:45 workshop at Israeli American Council event 6:45 Rosh Hashanah gift for families of hostages 9:00 how her work facilitates justice 12:30 defining justice through recognition and healing 13:20 work as a curator to connect voices 13:50 “Artists on Antisemitism” exhibition  15:00 co-curated with director of Jewish Art Salon 15:40...]]></itunes:summary>
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    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>Show Notes:<br/>1:30 <a href='https://www.qgazette.com/articles/ronit-levin-delgado/'>background</a><br/>2:45 shift to add activist element to her art<br/>4:00 response to 7 October 2023 during <a href='https://www.queensscene.com/articles/ronit-levin-delgado/'>residency at LMCC <br/></a>5:30 ‘artivism’<br/>5:45 workshop at Israeli American Council event<br/>6:45 Rosh Hashanah gift for families of hostages<br/>9:00 how her work facilitates justice<br/>12:30 defining justice through recognition and healing<br/>13:20 work as a curator to connect voices<br/>13:50 <a href='https://81leonardgallery.com/artists-on-antisemitism/'>“Artists on Antisemitism” exhibition </a><br/>15:00 co-curated with director of Jewish Art Salon<br/>15:40 <a href='https://www.marinaheintze.com'>LA-based artist Marina Heinze</a> included in exhibition </p><p>15:45 <a href='https://www.afeministlens.com'>Joan Roth</a><br/>17:30 Ronit’s “David” kisses painting included in exhibition <br/>19:40 Chai meaning alive <br/>19:50 use of technology in her work as a bridge for global participation<br/>21:40 heat-activated work that shows happiness levels like mood rings<br/>23:25 Stefania Salles Bruins: connection between art and justice making whole<br/>26:00 <a href='https://www.marinaheintze.com/gentian-violet-violence'>work by Marina Heinze in Artists on Antisemitism exhibition </a><br/>27:10 other exhibitions she has curated<br/>27:50 work in the antisemitism exhibition <br/>28:40 fellowship in Germany in collaboration with German Academic Exchange Service (DAAD) - art&apos;s importance in memory and justice<br/>29:00 urgency of keeping the Holocaust alive in the conversation today<br/>29:45 <a href='https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c4g7z8pk0j3o'>murder of Ukrainian refugee Iryna Zarutska</a><br/>30:00 to hold and carry memory forward to inspire vigilance and resilence <br/>30:40 artists as witnesses of our time and responsibility to be an activist<br/>32:00 “Wandering Jew” project for <a href='https://jerusalembiennale.org'>2026 Jerusalem Biennale</a><br/>34:00 Drawdy’s definition of justice <br/>34:50 Drawdy’s focus on stories to highlight <br/>35:20 Alan Robertshaw’s comments<br/>36:00 art speaking for itself <br/>36:50 <a href='https://visura.co/catalan/blog/written-in-water-a-collaborati'>“Written in Water” and “Project Forgiveness”</a> - 2018 NY Spring/Break<br/><br/></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Send us Fan Mail Cover photograph credit: Jessica Minor Link to PowerPoint presentation referenced in episode is available here. Show Notes: 1:20 intro and background 2:40 Slide 4 - Overview of Part I: 6 &amp; ½ tips &amp; tricks: 1 – perspective &amp; point of view; 2 – Light; 2-1/2 – shadow; 3 – value / contrast; 4 – temperature; 5 – depth and illusion of 3-D; 6 – line 5:00 Slide 5: Point 7 - Brushstrokes 6:35 thickness of paint 7:00 blending with dry brush 8:00 Slide 6: Point 8 - Layering ...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>Cover photograph credit: Jessica Minor</p><p>Link to PowerPoint presentation referenced in episode is available <a href='https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1q3yrAsBm9NiJQQ3PDKUvUPUeJc0HXxYj/mobilepresent?slide=id.p4'><b>here</b></a>.</p><p>Show Notes:</p><p>1:20 intro and background</p><p>2:40 <a href='https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1q3yrAsBm9NiJQQ3PDKUvUPUeJc0HXxYj/mobilepresent?slide=id.p4'><b>Slide 4 - Overview of Part I</b>:</a> 6 &amp; ½ tips &amp; tricks: 1 – perspective &amp; point of view; 2 – Light; 2-1/2 – shadow; 3 – value / contrast; 4 – temperature; 5 – depth and illusion of 3-D; 6 – line</p><p>5:00 <a href='https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1q3yrAsBm9NiJQQ3PDKUvUPUeJc0HXxYj/mobilepresent?slide=id.p4'><b>Slide 5: Point 7 - Brushstrokes</b></a></p><p>6:35 thickness of paint</p><p>7:00 blending with dry brush</p><p>8:00 <a href='https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1q3yrAsBm9NiJQQ3PDKUvUPUeJc0HXxYj/mobilepresent?slide=id.p4'><b>Slide 6: Point 8 - Layering</b></a></p><p>9:40 ‘fat over lean’ rule</p><p>11:15 scumble – layer of opaque white </p><p>11:30 glaze – transparent layer over an underpainting</p><p>12:40 <a href='https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1q3yrAsBm9NiJQQ3PDKUvUPUeJc0HXxYj/mobilepresent?slide=id.p4'><b>Slide 7: Point 9 - Paint as a Language</b></a></p><p>15:50 <a href='https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1q3yrAsBm9NiJQQ3PDKUvUPUeJc0HXxYj/mobilepresent?slide=id.p4'><b>Slide 8: Point 10 - The Figure</b></a></p><p>19:45 <a href='https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1q3yrAsBm9NiJQQ3PDKUvUPUeJc0HXxYj/mobilepresent?slide=id.p4'><b>Slide 9: Point 11 – The Palette</b></a></p><p>32:40 glazing </p><p>33:50 <a href='https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1q3yrAsBm9NiJQQ3PDKUvUPUeJc0HXxYj/mobilepresent?slide=id.p4'><b>Slide 10: Point 12 – Studio Practice</b></a></p><p>42:50 figurative group show with artist from <a href='https://duckduckgo.com/?origin=funnel_home_website&amp;t=h_&amp;q=hipbone+studio+portland+oregon&amp;ia=web'>Hip Bone Art Studio</a></p><p>43:45 process of applying to shows</p><p>45:00 narrative/figurative and surrealist approach to still life work</p><p>46:05 artist statements</p><p>48:45 sharing WIP and final works</p><p>51:20 connection to the cranial optic nerve – thinking with our eyes when painting</p><p>1:00:00 painting from imagination with focus on ‘technique in service of art’</p><p>1:02:10 how to deal with writers’ block and painters’ block</p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>Cover photograph credit: Jessica Minor</p><p>Link to PowerPoint presentation referenced in episode is available <a href='https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1q3yrAsBm9NiJQQ3PDKUvUPUeJc0HXxYj/mobilepresent?slide=id.p4'><b>here</b></a>.</p><p>Show Notes:</p><p>1:20 intro and background</p><p>2:40 <a href='https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1q3yrAsBm9NiJQQ3PDKUvUPUeJc0HXxYj/mobilepresent?slide=id.p4'><b>Slide 4 - Overview of Part I</b>:</a> 6 &amp; ½ tips &amp; tricks: 1 – perspective &amp; point of view; 2 – Light; 2-1/2 – shadow; 3 – value / contrast; 4 – temperature; 5 – depth and illusion of 3-D; 6 – line</p><p>5:00 <a href='https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1q3yrAsBm9NiJQQ3PDKUvUPUeJc0HXxYj/mobilepresent?slide=id.p4'><b>Slide 5: Point 7 - Brushstrokes</b></a></p><p>6:35 thickness of paint</p><p>7:00 blending with dry brush</p><p>8:00 <a href='https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1q3yrAsBm9NiJQQ3PDKUvUPUeJc0HXxYj/mobilepresent?slide=id.p4'><b>Slide 6: Point 8 - Layering</b></a></p><p>9:40 ‘fat over lean’ rule</p><p>11:15 scumble – layer of opaque white </p><p>11:30 glaze – transparent layer over an underpainting</p><p>12:40 <a href='https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1q3yrAsBm9NiJQQ3PDKUvUPUeJc0HXxYj/mobilepresent?slide=id.p4'><b>Slide 7: Point 9 - Paint as a Language</b></a></p><p>15:50 <a href='https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1q3yrAsBm9NiJQQ3PDKUvUPUeJc0HXxYj/mobilepresent?slide=id.p4'><b>Slide 8: Point 10 - The Figure</b></a></p><p>19:45 <a href='https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1q3yrAsBm9NiJQQ3PDKUvUPUeJc0HXxYj/mobilepresent?slide=id.p4'><b>Slide 9: Point 11 – The Palette</b></a></p><p>32:40 glazing </p><p>33:50 <a href='https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1q3yrAsBm9NiJQQ3PDKUvUPUeJc0HXxYj/mobilepresent?slide=id.p4'><b>Slide 10: Point 12 – Studio Practice</b></a></p><p>42:50 figurative group show with artist from <a href='https://duckduckgo.com/?origin=funnel_home_website&amp;t=h_&amp;q=hipbone+studio+portland+oregon&amp;ia=web'>Hip Bone Art Studio</a></p><p>43:45 process of applying to shows</p><p>45:00 narrative/figurative and surrealist approach to still life work</p><p>46:05 artist statements</p><p>48:45 sharing WIP and final works</p><p>51:20 connection to the cranial optic nerve – thinking with our eyes when painting</p><p>1:00:00 painting from imagination with focus on ‘technique in service of art’</p><p>1:02:10 how to deal with writers’ block and painters’ block</p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Send us Fan Mail Cover photo by Rhonda Dumas, Pieface Photography  Show notes: 2:00 Museum of Southern Jewish Experience beginning 2012 MSJE moved to Jackson MS and became part of Institute of Southern Jewish Life  3:30 4th year in New Orleans 4:50 MSJE’s mission 5:45 Chapman Family Research Center 6:00 archival vault – over 375 collections and over 4,000 artifacts 7:20 genealogy workshops 10:00 artifacts from southern Jewish general stores, e.g., 1890s saloon’s whiskey jug 12:30 co...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>Cover photo by Rhonda Dumas, Pieface Photography </p><p>Show notes:</p><p>2:00 <a href='https://msje.org'>Museum of Southern Jewish Experience</a> beginning</p><p>2012 MSJE moved to Jackson MS and became part of I<a href='https://www.isjl.org'>nstitute of Southern Jewish Life </a></p><p>3:30 4th year in New Orleans</p><p>4:50 MSJE’s mission</p><p>5:45 Chapman Family Research Center</p><p>6:00 archival vault – over 375 collections and over 4,000 artifacts</p><p>7:20 genealogy workshops</p><p>10:00 artifacts from southern Jewish general stores, e.g., 1890s saloon’s whiskey jug</p><p>12:30 collection digitization </p><p>13:35 Jewish orphans’ home exhibition</p><p>14:30 MSJE’s film</p><p>15:20 A Better Life for Their Children exhibition</p><p>18:00 Greetings From Main Street exhibition</p><p>22:00 French Jews from Alsace-Lorraine</p><p>23:00 Central European Jews </p><p>23:55 Galveston Plan – Rabbi Henry Cohen</p><p>26:00 New Americans exhibition at St. Charles Parish Library</p><p>26:30 love story of Joseph Sperling and <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anni_Frind'>Anni Frind</a> </p><p>36:00 New American Clubs</p><p>38:00 relevance of Holocaust survivors’ stories</p><p>39:45 <a href='https://cdn.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documents/rapid-response-collecting-guidance.pdf'>rapid response collecting</a> </p><p>41:00 view of justice </p><p>42:00 lynching of Leo Frank and southern Jewish mayors</p><p>44:00 social justice</p><p>44:50 Howard Turner – rapid response collecting</p><p>45:00 Emily Gould – slave trader memorials, e.g., Colston Statue in Bristol</p><p>48:00 Confederate statues built often by the Daughters of the Confederacy</p><p>50:45 future exhibition by MSJE on current war</p><p>52:00 Turner: school visits at MSJE</p><p>53:45 MSJE hours</p><p>54:35 Shalom Y’all video, etc. on MSJE site</p><p>56:00 visit to MSJE </p><p>56:55 interactive map on St. Charles streetcar line</p><p>57:30 New Americans - upcoming MSJE exhibition </p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>Cover photo by Rhonda Dumas, Pieface Photography </p><p>Show notes:</p><p>2:00 <a href='https://msje.org'>Museum of Southern Jewish Experience</a> beginning</p><p>2012 MSJE moved to Jackson MS and became part of I<a href='https://www.isjl.org'>nstitute of Southern Jewish Life </a></p><p>3:30 4th year in New Orleans</p><p>4:50 MSJE’s mission</p><p>5:45 Chapman Family Research Center</p><p>6:00 archival vault – over 375 collections and over 4,000 artifacts</p><p>7:20 genealogy workshops</p><p>10:00 artifacts from southern Jewish general stores, e.g., 1890s saloon’s whiskey jug</p><p>12:30 collection digitization </p><p>13:35 Jewish orphans’ home exhibition</p><p>14:30 MSJE’s film</p><p>15:20 A Better Life for Their Children exhibition</p><p>18:00 Greetings From Main Street exhibition</p><p>22:00 French Jews from Alsace-Lorraine</p><p>23:00 Central European Jews </p><p>23:55 Galveston Plan – Rabbi Henry Cohen</p><p>26:00 New Americans exhibition at St. Charles Parish Library</p><p>26:30 love story of Joseph Sperling and <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anni_Frind'>Anni Frind</a> </p><p>36:00 New American Clubs</p><p>38:00 relevance of Holocaust survivors’ stories</p><p>39:45 <a href='https://cdn.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documents/rapid-response-collecting-guidance.pdf'>rapid response collecting</a> </p><p>41:00 view of justice </p><p>42:00 lynching of Leo Frank and southern Jewish mayors</p><p>44:00 social justice</p><p>44:50 Howard Turner – rapid response collecting</p><p>45:00 Emily Gould – slave trader memorials, e.g., Colston Statue in Bristol</p><p>48:00 Confederate statues built often by the Daughters of the Confederacy</p><p>50:45 future exhibition by MSJE on current war</p><p>52:00 Turner: school visits at MSJE</p><p>53:45 MSJE hours</p><p>54:35 Shalom Y’all video, etc. on MSJE site</p><p>56:00 visit to MSJE </p><p>56:55 interactive map on St. Charles streetcar line</p><p>57:30 New Americans - upcoming MSJE exhibition </p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <description><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>To learn more, please visit <a href='https://themislaw.eu/hannes-hartung/'>Dr. Hartung&apos;s site</a>. <br/>2:30 Jonathan Petropoulos&apos; <em>Faustian Bargain: The Art World in Nazi Germany</em><br/>2:50 <a href='https://www.amazon.com/Kunstraub-Verfolgung-Schriften-Kulturgüterschutz-Cultural/dp/3899492102?ref_=ast_author_dp'>Hartung’s 2005 book, Art Theft in War and Persecution </a><br/>3:25 representation in 2014 of Cornelius Gurlitt regarding the Gurlitt Trove<br/>5:20 Gurlitt exemplifies issues with Germany’s soft law towards art restitution<br/>6:50 twelve works from Gurlitt Trove confirmed as looted<br/>7:15 works from Gurlitt Trove with historical gaps in provenance<br/>8:50 Germany’s task force – 5 million Euros <br/>10:20 degenerate art in Gurlitt Trove<br/>11:10 works on loan from private collections seized as degenerate <br/>11:40 <a href='https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/legal-fight-over-nazi-looted-painting-ends-after-26-years-180964244/'>Paul Klee’s “Swamp Legend” from Sophie Küppers</a><br/>13:30 <a href='https://arthive.com/it/news/2508~The_Colorful_Life_by_Wassily_Kandinsky_becomes_an_apple_of_discord#google_vignette'>Kandinsky’s “The Colorful Life”–Irma Klein / Lewenstein Family</a><br/>17:10 Germany’s shift from advisory commission to an arbitration tribunal <br/> 22:30 restitution of “The Colorful Life&quot;<br/>23:40 <a href='https://www.bonn.de/pressemitteilungen/januar/kunstmuseum-bonn-restituiert-ein-seehaus-gemaelde.php?form=translationDisclaimer-Mjk4MTE0MzQw&amp;action=submit#translationDisclaimer-Mjk4MTE0MzQw'>&quot;Blick in Ebene&quot; by Paul Adolf Seehaus to Koppel heirs</a><br/>24:10 <a href='https://www.museumsassociation.org/museums-journal/news/2025/04/tate-to-return-nazi-looted-painting-to-jewish-art-dealers-family/#'>Gibb&apos;s &quot;Aeneas and his Family Fleeing Burning Troy&quot; to Hartveld heirs</a><br/>24:35 Sir Justice Moses, chair of UK’s Spoliation Advisory Panel<br/>26:00 restitution-Waldmüller’s “Young Girl with Her Family” looted from Teresa Belthower; acquired by Nazi photographer Heinrich Hoffmann<br/>28:00 <a href='https://www.theartnewspaper.com/2025/02/26/facing-accusations-hiding-nazi-loot-bavaria-pledges-more-research-greater-transparency'>looted art scandal at Bavarian State Painting Collections </a><br/>30:50 suit over Friedrich von Amerling’s “Girl with a Straw Hat”<br/>37:05 Emily Gould–restitution by Bavaria versus other German states <br/>39:55 no formal restitution schemes in Spain and Belgium<br/>41:25 whistleblower from Bavarian State Painting Collections<br/>42:50 Markus Stötzel, attorney for Flechtheim heirs <br/>44:00 <a href='https://www.theartnewspaper.com/2023/03/30/munich-museum-takes-down-picasso-portrait-amid-really-overdue-restitution-dispute'>Picasso’s “Madame Soler” taken from Paul von Mendelssohn-Bartholdy; Bavaria refused to accept its body’s restitution recommendation </a><br/>47:20 Hartung’s view of justice<br/>48:00 Germany’s arbitration system-public versus private holders of work<br/>50:40 new framework’s guidelines-presumptions and burden <br/>53:55 new framework’s guidelines-dealers and work on commission<br/>55:50 Hartung’s hope to contribute to higher justice and remembrance<br/>57:20 <a href='https://swartzberg.com/terry-swartzberg'>Stolpersteine</a> <br/>1:01:55 Aluko, Stein &amp; Gould <br/><br/><br/></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>To learn more, please visit <a href='https://themislaw.eu/hannes-hartung/'>Dr. Hartung&apos;s site</a>. <br/>2:30 Jonathan Petropoulos&apos; <em>Faustian Bargain: The Art World in Nazi Germany</em><br/>2:50 <a href='https://www.amazon.com/Kunstraub-Verfolgung-Schriften-Kulturgüterschutz-Cultural/dp/3899492102?ref_=ast_author_dp'>Hartung’s 2005 book, Art Theft in War and Persecution </a><br/>3:25 representation in 2014 of Cornelius Gurlitt regarding the Gurlitt Trove<br/>5:20 Gurlitt exemplifies issues with Germany’s soft law towards art restitution<br/>6:50 twelve works from Gurlitt Trove confirmed as looted<br/>7:15 works from Gurlitt Trove with historical gaps in provenance<br/>8:50 Germany’s task force – 5 million Euros <br/>10:20 degenerate art in Gurlitt Trove<br/>11:10 works on loan from private collections seized as degenerate <br/>11:40 <a href='https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/legal-fight-over-nazi-looted-painting-ends-after-26-years-180964244/'>Paul Klee’s “Swamp Legend” from Sophie Küppers</a><br/>13:30 <a href='https://arthive.com/it/news/2508~The_Colorful_Life_by_Wassily_Kandinsky_becomes_an_apple_of_discord#google_vignette'>Kandinsky’s “The Colorful Life”–Irma Klein / Lewenstein Family</a><br/>17:10 Germany’s shift from advisory commission to an arbitration tribunal <br/> 22:30 restitution of “The Colorful Life&quot;<br/>23:40 <a href='https://www.bonn.de/pressemitteilungen/januar/kunstmuseum-bonn-restituiert-ein-seehaus-gemaelde.php?form=translationDisclaimer-Mjk4MTE0MzQw&amp;action=submit#translationDisclaimer-Mjk4MTE0MzQw'>&quot;Blick in Ebene&quot; by Paul Adolf Seehaus to Koppel heirs</a><br/>24:10 <a href='https://www.museumsassociation.org/museums-journal/news/2025/04/tate-to-return-nazi-looted-painting-to-jewish-art-dealers-family/#'>Gibb&apos;s &quot;Aeneas and his Family Fleeing Burning Troy&quot; to Hartveld heirs</a><br/>24:35 Sir Justice Moses, chair of UK’s Spoliation Advisory Panel<br/>26:00 restitution-Waldmüller’s “Young Girl with Her Family” looted from Teresa Belthower; acquired by Nazi photographer Heinrich Hoffmann<br/>28:00 <a href='https://www.theartnewspaper.com/2025/02/26/facing-accusations-hiding-nazi-loot-bavaria-pledges-more-research-greater-transparency'>looted art scandal at Bavarian State Painting Collections </a><br/>30:50 suit over Friedrich von Amerling’s “Girl with a Straw Hat”<br/>37:05 Emily Gould–restitution by Bavaria versus other German states <br/>39:55 no formal restitution schemes in Spain and Belgium<br/>41:25 whistleblower from Bavarian State Painting Collections<br/>42:50 Markus Stötzel, attorney for Flechtheim heirs <br/>44:00 <a href='https://www.theartnewspaper.com/2023/03/30/munich-museum-takes-down-picasso-portrait-amid-really-overdue-restitution-dispute'>Picasso’s “Madame Soler” taken from Paul von Mendelssohn-Bartholdy; Bavaria refused to accept its body’s restitution recommendation </a><br/>47:20 Hartung’s view of justice<br/>48:00 Germany’s arbitration system-public versus private holders of work<br/>50:40 new framework’s guidelines-presumptions and burden <br/>53:55 new framework’s guidelines-dealers and work on commission<br/>55:50 Hartung’s hope to contribute to higher justice and remembrance<br/>57:20 <a href='https://swartzberg.com/terry-swartzberg'>Stolpersteine</a> <br/>1:01:55 Aluko, Stein &amp; Gould <br/><br/><br/></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Send us Fan Mail To learn more about Silvia Wistuba and her work, please visit here and here. Cover Image: Wistuba's adaptation of work by artist Julie Wolfthorn for the cover of Jugend magazine (1898). Show Notes 0:00 Silvia Wistuba on equality of artists 1:15 Wistuba’s background 2:30 Gabriele Münter 4:30 ‘Malweiber’ meaning  6:00 timeframe of ‘Malweiber’ labeling – 1871-1918 8:30 research process 12:00 regional approach to research 15:00 twelve female artists focused on in research 16...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>To learn more about Silvia Wistuba and her work, please visit <a href='https://researchoutput.csu.edu.au/en/persons/silvia-wistuba'>here</a> and <a href='https://orcid.org/0000-0002-8679-9444'>here</a>.</p><p>Cover Image: Wistuba&apos;s adaptation of work by artist Julie Wolfthorn for the cover of Jugend magazine (1898).</p><p>Show Notes</p><p>0:00 Silvia Wistuba on equality of artists</p><p>1:15 Wistuba’s background</p><p>2:30 Gabriele Münter</p><p>4:30 ‘Malweiber’ meaning </p><p>6:00 timeframe of ‘Malweiber’ labeling – 1871-1918</p><p>8:30 research process</p><p>12:00 regional approach to research</p><p>15:00 twelve female artists focused on in research</p><p>16:30 finding that art is not gendered</p><p>18:15 Charlotte Corinth</p><p>21:30 Dora Hitz</p><p>22:40 Maria Slavona</p><p>24:25 Augusta von Zitzewitz</p><p>25:20 Erma Bossi</p><p>26:25 Elisabeth Epstein</p><p>27:23 Maria Franck-Marc</p><p>30:30 Gabriele Münter</p><p>32:25 Elisabeth Erdmann-Macke</p><p>34:25 Ida Gerhardi </p><p>36:30 Fifi Kreutzer</p><p>37:55 Olga Openheimer</p><p>40:30 range of resources </p><p>43:30 Blue Rider Group</p><p>45:30 Gabriele Münter’s donation to <a href='https://www.lenbachhaus.de/en/discover/the-blue-rider'>Lenbachhaus (Munich) </a></p><p>49:00 <a href='https://verlorene-generation.com/en/museum-index/'>Museum Art of the Lost Generation </a></p><p>51:30 current relevance</p><p>53:30 need for discourse on art’s social context</p><p>55:08 social justice for artists of the past</p><p>55:20 defining justice as respect shown to all</p><p>56:25 feedback</p><p>58:10 challenging the sexist paradigm that art is gendered</p><p>59:40 plans to convert thesis into book</p><p>1:00:15 derogatory nature of term ‘Malweiber’</p><p>1:01:45 cover image inspired by Julie Wolfthorn’s image </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>To learn more about Silvia Wistuba and her work, please visit <a href='https://researchoutput.csu.edu.au/en/persons/silvia-wistuba'>here</a> and <a href='https://orcid.org/0000-0002-8679-9444'>here</a>.</p><p>Cover Image: Wistuba&apos;s adaptation of work by artist Julie Wolfthorn for the cover of Jugend magazine (1898).</p><p>Show Notes</p><p>0:00 Silvia Wistuba on equality of artists</p><p>1:15 Wistuba’s background</p><p>2:30 Gabriele Münter</p><p>4:30 ‘Malweiber’ meaning </p><p>6:00 timeframe of ‘Malweiber’ labeling – 1871-1918</p><p>8:30 research process</p><p>12:00 regional approach to research</p><p>15:00 twelve female artists focused on in research</p><p>16:30 finding that art is not gendered</p><p>18:15 Charlotte Corinth</p><p>21:30 Dora Hitz</p><p>22:40 Maria Slavona</p><p>24:25 Augusta von Zitzewitz</p><p>25:20 Erma Bossi</p><p>26:25 Elisabeth Epstein</p><p>27:23 Maria Franck-Marc</p><p>30:30 Gabriele Münter</p><p>32:25 Elisabeth Erdmann-Macke</p><p>34:25 Ida Gerhardi </p><p>36:30 Fifi Kreutzer</p><p>37:55 Olga Openheimer</p><p>40:30 range of resources </p><p>43:30 Blue Rider Group</p><p>45:30 Gabriele Münter’s donation to <a href='https://www.lenbachhaus.de/en/discover/the-blue-rider'>Lenbachhaus (Munich) </a></p><p>49:00 <a href='https://verlorene-generation.com/en/museum-index/'>Museum Art of the Lost Generation </a></p><p>51:30 current relevance</p><p>53:30 need for discourse on art’s social context</p><p>55:08 social justice for artists of the past</p><p>55:20 defining justice as respect shown to all</p><p>56:25 feedback</p><p>58:10 challenging the sexist paradigm that art is gendered</p><p>59:40 plans to convert thesis into book</p><p>1:00:15 derogatory nature of term ‘Malweiber’</p><p>1:01:45 cover image inspired by Julie Wolfthorn’s image </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <description><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>Show notes:</p><p>0:00 Dr. Fiona Greenland discussing collabarative work with Curia co-founder Dr. Michelle Fabiana </p><p>2:00 Dr. Michelle Fabiani&apos;s background</p><p>3:40 Dr. Greenland’s background</p><p>5:40 collaboration between Greenland and Fabiani</p><p>7:10 overview of <a href='https://curialab.org'>Curia Lab</a></p><p>9:40 Informatics, the science of information</p><p>11:30 Syrian project - how robust and reliable data on scope of Syrian looting was with a review of remote sensing imagery </p><p>15:10 participants in Syrian project  </p><p>17:20 Syrian project – evidence on whether there is a connection between Syrian civilian fatalities/casualties and cultural heritage looting</p><p>22:45 prelude hypothesis </p><p>27:50 war in Ukraine and its effects on Ukrainian culture</p><p>32:00 how the data is used to inform accountability </p><p>34:30 Greenland’s work with Conflict Observatory Ukraine</p><p>36:00 Ukrainians’ current restitution, reparations and accountability efforts</p><p>37:50 user guides for each area </p><p>42:30 Fabiani’s PhD project on Egyptian archeological looting </p><p>44:00 current project that builds on PhD project </p><p>46:00 impact of technology on their approach, including disinformation </p><p>50:00 complications created by AI, including generative AI</p><p>54:00 perspective of skepticism required </p><p>56:30 online risks and need for mitigation</p><p>58:15 how their work speaks to justice</p><p>58:30 Miranda Fricker’s book <a href='https://academic.oup.com/book/32817?login=false'><em>Epistemic Injustice: Power and the Ethics of Knowing</em></a></p><p>1:02:30 questions of justice for whom </p><p>1:05:30 Lauren Stein: question on the role of universities in Curia Lab</p><p>1:07:50 hope for their work to establish frameworks of cooperation and collaboration that cherish equal access to knowledge/information that would then lead to equal access to accountability </p><p>1:09:10 hope for their work to facilitate a shift to a multi-disciplinary approach </p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></description>
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    <description><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>SHOW NOTES:</p><p>0:00 <a href='https://ginamcklveen.substack.com/p/an-introduction-to-good-grief'>artist &amp; attorney Gina McKlveen</a></p><p>1:05 <a href='https://www.jerryalonzo.com/about'>artist &amp; retired judge Jerry Alonzo</a> - the impact of depression</p><p>3:00 <a href='https://www.imdb.com/title/tt28865980/'>documentary American Symphony </a></p><p>3:50 Suleika Jaouad - release she experienced by painting about cancer </p><p>6:00 Alonzo’s “Out of Balance” </p><p>6:40 “Civic Sacrement&quot;</p><p>8:20 woodwork during Alonzo’s time as a judge </p><p>9:00 <a href='https://www.jerryalonzo.com/?keyvalue=108213&amp;page=ViewCollection&amp;subkeyvalue=181636&amp;startrec=1&amp;displayperpage=9999&amp;displayhorz=1'>“The Jury Box”</a> </p><p>10:45 “The Judgment” </p><p>11:45 <a href='https://www.jerryalonzo.com/?keyvalue=108213&amp;page=ViewCollection&amp;subkeyvalue=181636&amp;startrec=1&amp;displayperpage=9999&amp;displayhorz=1'>“Justice is God’s Plumb Line” </a></p><p>12:30 Environmental works like <a href='https://www.jerryalonzo.com/collections/181436'>“Monstronse” </a> </p><p>13:15 <a href='https://www.jerryalonzo.com/?keyvalue=108213&amp;page=ViewCollection&amp;subkeyvalue=181636&amp;startrec=1&amp;displayperpage=9999&amp;displayhorz=1'>“Justice?” </a></p><p>14:15 <a href='https://www.jerryalonzo.com/?keyvalue=108213&amp;page=ViewCollection&amp;subkeyvalue=181636&amp;startrec=1&amp;displayperpage=9999&amp;displayhorz=1'>“Passage”</a></p><p>14:40 <a href='https://www.jerryalonzo.com/?keyvalue=108213&amp;page=ViewCollection&amp;subkeyvalue=181636&amp;startrec=1&amp;displayperpage=9999&amp;displayhorz=1'>“Faltering”</a></p><p>16:00 <a href='https://www.jerryalonzo.com/?keyvalue=108213&amp;page=ViewCollection&amp;subkeyvalue=181636&amp;startrec=1&amp;displayperpage=9999&amp;displayhorz=1'>“Arc”</a></p><p>16:25 asylum work inspired <a href='https://www.jerryalonzo.com/?keyvalue=108213&amp;page=ViewCollection&amp;subkeyvalue=181636&amp;startrec=1&amp;displayperpage=9999&amp;displayhorz=1'>“Matthew 25” </a></p><p>20:30 importance of leaning into the pain</p><p>21:35 Emily Gould’s comments</p><p>23:30 American Symphony - leaning into anxiety through art</p><p>26:25 McKlveen’s response to Alonzo’s work</p><p>26:45 <a href='https://www.theartnewspaper.com/2014/03/01/interview-with-phyllida-barlow'>“Upturned House” by Phyllida Barlow </a></p><p>27:20 “Inflated Balloons” </p><p>27:50 <a href='https://carnegieart.org/art/carnegie-international/'>Carnegie International </a></p><p>28:40 McKlveen’s work leaning into grief and loss</p><p>29:35 “Fisherman on the Roof” </p><p>37:45 <a href='https://ginamcklveen.substack.com/p/an-introduction-to-good-grief'>“Mermaid Mama”</a></p><p>39:25 <a href='https://ginamcklveen.substack.com/p/an-introduction-to-good-grief'>“Stay Wild”</a></p><p>40:15 <a href='https://ginamcklveen.substack.com/p/an-introduction-to-good-grief'>“Heather’s Mama”</a></p><p>42:00 McKlveen’s grandparents</p><p>44:50 portraiture versus still life works</p><p>47:00 other artists who created still life paintings as portraits, e.g., Van Gogh</p><p>48:30 Alonzo’s response to McKlveen</p><p>49:05 Gould’s response to McKlveen</p><p>49:45 Oluwatobi Aluko’s response</p><p>51:00 McKlveen’s planned portrait of grandmother with post box like Mona Lisa</p><p><br/></p><p><br/></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>SHOW NOTES:</p><p>0:00 <a href='https://ginamcklveen.substack.com/p/an-introduction-to-good-grief'>artist &amp; attorney Gina McKlveen</a></p><p>1:05 <a href='https://www.jerryalonzo.com/about'>artist &amp; retired judge Jerry Alonzo</a> - the impact of depression</p><p>3:00 <a href='https://www.imdb.com/title/tt28865980/'>documentary American Symphony </a></p><p>3:50 Suleika Jaouad - release she experienced by painting about cancer </p><p>6:00 Alonzo’s “Out of Balance” </p><p>6:40 “Civic Sacrement&quot;</p><p>8:20 woodwork during Alonzo’s time as a judge </p><p>9:00 <a href='https://www.jerryalonzo.com/?keyvalue=108213&amp;page=ViewCollection&amp;subkeyvalue=181636&amp;startrec=1&amp;displayperpage=9999&amp;displayhorz=1'>“The Jury Box”</a> </p><p>10:45 “The Judgment” </p><p>11:45 <a href='https://www.jerryalonzo.com/?keyvalue=108213&amp;page=ViewCollection&amp;subkeyvalue=181636&amp;startrec=1&amp;displayperpage=9999&amp;displayhorz=1'>“Justice is God’s Plumb Line” </a></p><p>12:30 Environmental works like <a href='https://www.jerryalonzo.com/collections/181436'>“Monstronse” </a> </p><p>13:15 <a href='https://www.jerryalonzo.com/?keyvalue=108213&amp;page=ViewCollection&amp;subkeyvalue=181636&amp;startrec=1&amp;displayperpage=9999&amp;displayhorz=1'>“Justice?” </a></p><p>14:15 <a href='https://www.jerryalonzo.com/?keyvalue=108213&amp;page=ViewCollection&amp;subkeyvalue=181636&amp;startrec=1&amp;displayperpage=9999&amp;displayhorz=1'>“Passage”</a></p><p>14:40 <a href='https://www.jerryalonzo.com/?keyvalue=108213&amp;page=ViewCollection&amp;subkeyvalue=181636&amp;startrec=1&amp;displayperpage=9999&amp;displayhorz=1'>“Faltering”</a></p><p>16:00 <a href='https://www.jerryalonzo.com/?keyvalue=108213&amp;page=ViewCollection&amp;subkeyvalue=181636&amp;startrec=1&amp;displayperpage=9999&amp;displayhorz=1'>“Arc”</a></p><p>16:25 asylum work inspired <a href='https://www.jerryalonzo.com/?keyvalue=108213&amp;page=ViewCollection&amp;subkeyvalue=181636&amp;startrec=1&amp;displayperpage=9999&amp;displayhorz=1'>“Matthew 25” </a></p><p>20:30 importance of leaning into the pain</p><p>21:35 Emily Gould’s comments</p><p>23:30 American Symphony - leaning into anxiety through art</p><p>26:25 McKlveen’s response to Alonzo’s work</p><p>26:45 <a href='https://www.theartnewspaper.com/2014/03/01/interview-with-phyllida-barlow'>“Upturned House” by Phyllida Barlow </a></p><p>27:20 “Inflated Balloons” </p><p>27:50 <a href='https://carnegieart.org/art/carnegie-international/'>Carnegie International </a></p><p>28:40 McKlveen’s work leaning into grief and loss</p><p>29:35 “Fisherman on the Roof” </p><p>37:45 <a href='https://ginamcklveen.substack.com/p/an-introduction-to-good-grief'>“Mermaid Mama”</a></p><p>39:25 <a href='https://ginamcklveen.substack.com/p/an-introduction-to-good-grief'>“Stay Wild”</a></p><p>40:15 <a href='https://ginamcklveen.substack.com/p/an-introduction-to-good-grief'>“Heather’s Mama”</a></p><p>42:00 McKlveen’s grandparents</p><p>44:50 portraiture versus still life works</p><p>47:00 other artists who created still life paintings as portraits, e.g., Van Gogh</p><p>48:30 Alonzo’s response to McKlveen</p><p>49:05 Gould’s response to McKlveen</p><p>49:45 Oluwatobi Aluko’s response</p><p>51:00 McKlveen’s planned portrait of grandmother with post box like Mona Lisa</p><p><br/></p><p><br/></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <description><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>Show notes:</p><p>3:00 <a href='https://illusionofmore.com'>David Newhoff</a> - question of authorship</p><p>7:15 <a href='https://www.linkedin.com/search/results/all/?fetchDeterministicClustersOnly=true&amp;heroEntityKey=urn%3Ali%3Afsd_profile%3AACoAAAA-En4BdbkNhF098WY9MEOsdNQ4Scx1ugo&amp;keywords=peter%20wasilko&amp;origin=RICH_QUERY_TYPEAHEAD_HISTORY&amp;position=0&amp;searchId=8238831b-ff73-4985-b18d-f5b888064ceb&amp;sid=1ic&amp;spellCorrectionEnabled=true'>Peter Wasilko</a></p><p>9:00 <a href='https://profiles.sussex.ac.uk/p328331-andres-guadamuz '>Andres Guadamuz</a> - <a href='https://www.technollama.co.uk/'>blog</a> post <a href='https://www.technollama.co.uk/whats-going-on-with-ai-copyright-authorship'>on AI copyright authorship</a></p><p>10:30 China’s focus on “intellectual achievement” </p><p>12:20 <a href='https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1988/48/part/I/chapter/I/crossheading/authorship-and-ownership-of-copyright'>Section 9(3) of its Copyright, Designs and Patents Act 1988 </a></p><p>13:00 <a href='https://ial.uk.com/author/emily-gould/'>Emily Gould</a> - whether copyright is fit for purpose </p><p>13:30 <a href='https://committees.parliament.uk/event/23022'>UK joint evidence session on the future of AI and copyright law </a></p><p>17:15 Newhoff - use of an artist’s style </p><p>18:40 Wasilko - an artist’s training of a model with its own work</p><p>20:15 artist&apos;s post-stroke gen-AI recording from model training on his work</p><p>21:00 <a href='https://www.stefaniasallesbruins.com'>Salles Bruins</a>&apos; question on definition of intellect </p><p>25:40 - Ankit Sahni -  China’s protection</p><p>28:30 Sahni - India’s position on creativity falls in the middle </p><p>29:00 Ankit Sahni - RAGHAV output “Suryast” </p><p>33:45 Sahni - protection of AI-assisted works by China’s courts </p><p>35:00 Wasilko - hypothetical-photo of sunsets on VR headsets</p><p>36:50 Sahni - USCO’s case by case basis</p><p>37:50 Newhoff - what is protectable against infringement</p><p>39:30 Sarony: looking at human choices used to create photos</p><p>41:00 Newhoff - ‘authorship by adoption’ is a “bridge too far”</p><p>42:15 Bruins - question about training in Wasilko’s hypothetical</p><p>43:10 Wasilko - “bridge too far”- license to “learn” from works</p><p>48:00 <a href='https://law.stanford.edu/codex-the-stanford-center-for-legal-informatics/'>Stanford’s CodeX Group</a> - talk on product <a href='https://judgeai.space/'>JudgeAI </a></p><p>50:30 Andres - human creativity exists irrespective of copyright </p><p>52:00 Salles Bruins - copyright is a tool to enable artists to profit </p><p>53:30 Kritika Sahni - defining intellect dependent on AI context </p><p>54:50 Ankit Sahni - sui generis system of registration </p><p>58:45 Gould-a right like copyright for outputs &quot;tough&quot; to get right</p><p>1:02:00 Guadamuz - <a href='https://ukrainianlawfirms.com/reviews/ai-regulation/'>Ukraine’s sui generis right for AI works </a></p><p>1:03:45 Jason Jean - defining intellect </p><p>1:08:50 Newhoff - unconvinced that it’s a “sui generis question”</p><p>1:09:30 Wasilko - whether inputting human work makes model “assistive”</p><p>1:13:00 question of global copyright approach</p><p>1:17:15 what is the end game?</p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>Show notes:</p><p>3:00 <a href='https://illusionofmore.com'>David Newhoff</a> - question of authorship</p><p>7:15 <a href='https://www.linkedin.com/search/results/all/?fetchDeterministicClustersOnly=true&amp;heroEntityKey=urn%3Ali%3Afsd_profile%3AACoAAAA-En4BdbkNhF098WY9MEOsdNQ4Scx1ugo&amp;keywords=peter%20wasilko&amp;origin=RICH_QUERY_TYPEAHEAD_HISTORY&amp;position=0&amp;searchId=8238831b-ff73-4985-b18d-f5b888064ceb&amp;sid=1ic&amp;spellCorrectionEnabled=true'>Peter Wasilko</a></p><p>9:00 <a href='https://profiles.sussex.ac.uk/p328331-andres-guadamuz '>Andres Guadamuz</a> - <a href='https://www.technollama.co.uk/'>blog</a> post <a href='https://www.technollama.co.uk/whats-going-on-with-ai-copyright-authorship'>on AI copyright authorship</a></p><p>10:30 China’s focus on “intellectual achievement” </p><p>12:20 <a href='https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1988/48/part/I/chapter/I/crossheading/authorship-and-ownership-of-copyright'>Section 9(3) of its Copyright, Designs and Patents Act 1988 </a></p><p>13:00 <a href='https://ial.uk.com/author/emily-gould/'>Emily Gould</a> - whether copyright is fit for purpose </p><p>13:30 <a href='https://committees.parliament.uk/event/23022'>UK joint evidence session on the future of AI and copyright law </a></p><p>17:15 Newhoff - use of an artist’s style </p><p>18:40 Wasilko - an artist’s training of a model with its own work</p><p>20:15 artist&apos;s post-stroke gen-AI recording from model training on his work</p><p>21:00 <a href='https://www.stefaniasallesbruins.com'>Salles Bruins</a>&apos; question on definition of intellect </p><p>25:40 - Ankit Sahni -  China’s protection</p><p>28:30 Sahni - India’s position on creativity falls in the middle </p><p>29:00 Ankit Sahni - RAGHAV output “Suryast” </p><p>33:45 Sahni - protection of AI-assisted works by China’s courts </p><p>35:00 Wasilko - hypothetical-photo of sunsets on VR headsets</p><p>36:50 Sahni - USCO’s case by case basis</p><p>37:50 Newhoff - what is protectable against infringement</p><p>39:30 Sarony: looking at human choices used to create photos</p><p>41:00 Newhoff - ‘authorship by adoption’ is a “bridge too far”</p><p>42:15 Bruins - question about training in Wasilko’s hypothetical</p><p>43:10 Wasilko - “bridge too far”- license to “learn” from works</p><p>48:00 <a href='https://law.stanford.edu/codex-the-stanford-center-for-legal-informatics/'>Stanford’s CodeX Group</a> - talk on product <a href='https://judgeai.space/'>JudgeAI </a></p><p>50:30 Andres - human creativity exists irrespective of copyright </p><p>52:00 Salles Bruins - copyright is a tool to enable artists to profit </p><p>53:30 Kritika Sahni - defining intellect dependent on AI context </p><p>54:50 Ankit Sahni - sui generis system of registration </p><p>58:45 Gould-a right like copyright for outputs &quot;tough&quot; to get right</p><p>1:02:00 Guadamuz - <a href='https://ukrainianlawfirms.com/reviews/ai-regulation/'>Ukraine’s sui generis right for AI works </a></p><p>1:03:45 Jason Jean - defining intellect </p><p>1:08:50 Newhoff - unconvinced that it’s a “sui generis question”</p><p>1:09:30 Wasilko - whether inputting human work makes model “assistive”</p><p>1:13:00 question of global copyright approach</p><p>1:17:15 what is the end game?</p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>To learn more, please visit <a href='https://www.artandiplawfirm.com'>Amineddoleh &amp; Associates LLC</a> and view Leila Amineddoleh performing <a href='https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57EfkcOmFV8'>Chopin Polonaise, Op. 26, No. 1</a> and <a href='https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XfjHnf67EbM'>Liszt Liebestraum No. 3</a>.<br/><br/>Show Notes:</p><p>1:00 Amineddoleh’s background and work in music and law</p><p>4:00 Patty Gerstenblith </p><p>7:00 building Amineddoleh &amp; Assoc.</p><p>8:45 Amineddoleh&apos;s work with Greece </p><p>10:00 perspective as musician aids in work as attorney to other artists </p><p>11:00 Amineddoleh&apos;s experience with <a href='https://www.artandiplawfirm.com/tag/plagiarism/'>plagiarism </a></p><p>14:20 Amineddoleh’s practice</p><p>15:45 Foreign Sovereign Immunities Act</p><p>19:50 artists’ perspectives in hiring an attorney </p><p>22:50 <a href='https://www.jerryalonzo.com'>Jerry Alonzo</a>: what brings artists to seek out Amineddoleh</p><p>26:00 <a href='https://www.artandiplawfirm.com/tag/golden-coffin-of-nedjemankh/'>return of golden coffin of Nedjemankh </a></p><p>31:45 use of AI </p><p>36:30 <a href='https://www.billboard.com/pro/the-beatles-now-and-then-first-ai-assisted-song-grammy-nomination-history/'>AI-assisted Beatles song </a></p><p>37:45 analogy of photography to AI outputs</p><p>38:20 <a href='https://www.artandiplawfirm.com/?s=hiroshi+sugimoto+ '>Japanese photographer Hiroshi Sugimoto </a></p><p>39:45 <a href='https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/monkey-selfie-david-slater-photographer-peta-copyright-image-camera-wildlife-personalities-macaques-indonesia-a7941806.html'>suit over copyright of monkey selfie </a></p><p>41:45 <a href='https://www.artandiplawfirm.com/?s=thaler'>Thaler v. USCO </a></p><p>44:30 <a href='https://www.linkedin.com/in/rupali-gujral13/?originalSubdomain=in'>Rupali Gujral</a>: negotiating on a client’s behalf</p><p>48:30 <a href='https://www.stefaniasallesbruins.com'>Stefania Salles Bruins</a>: history of art collecting</p><p>52:30 Bruins: Amineddoleh&apos;s balancing of legal and musical practices</p><p>54:00 Amineddoleh’s perspective on sharing her music and performing</p><p>56:30 <a href='https://www.britannica.com/topic/Hungarian-Rhapsody-No-2'>Liszt’s Hungarian Rhapsody No. 2</a>  played by <a href='https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HsY_8ol4cKA'>Bugs Bunny</a> </p><p>57:20 Amineddoleh’s performance of <a href='https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57EfkcOmFV8'>Chopin Polonaise, Op. 26, No. 1</a> and <a href='https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XfjHnf67EbM'>Liszt Liebestraum No. 3 </a></p><p>59:00 under-appreciated composer <a href='https://www.britannica.com/biography/Johannes-Brahms'>Brahms </a></p><p>1:01:20 injustices in art law</p><p>1:04:30 Amineddoleh’s definition of justice - access</p><p>1:06:00 <a href='https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7bGU9NTJlIo'>John Cage’s 4’33”</a> </p><p><br/></p><p><br/></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>To learn more, please visit Frances Liddell&apos;s <a href='https://www.francesliddell.xyz'>site</a>.<br/><br/>Show Notes:<br/>0:00 Frances Liddell on justice and technology<br/>1:30 Liddell’s background<br/>2:50 <a href='https://www.cryptokitties.co'>CryptoKitties </a><br/>3:50 NFTs<br/>5:20 <a href='https://oragen.designinformatics.org'>ORAgen</a> <br/>&amp; <a href='https://decade.ac.uk'>DECaDE research centre</a> <br/>7:20 <a href='https://c2pa.org'>C2PA </a><br/>8:15 tokenized rights<br/>9:45 ORA use cases<br/>10:30 themes from ORA interviews<br/>12:15 YouTube as a supportive platform v. TikTok<br/>13:00 smart contracts and licensing<br/>15:00 perspectives on attribution <br/>16:30 Emily Gould question on attribution<br/>24:50 animation sector with stronger preference for attribution not open source <br/>26:45 interviews revealed uncertainty on data scraping<br/>29:50 lack of awareness about the environmental impact of blockchain<br/>31:50 repatriation and blockchain and her work as associate research fellow with <br/><a href='https://aabconsortium.org'>Art &amp; Antiquities Blockchain Consortium</a><br/>34:50 <a href='https://www.balot.org'>Balot NFT</a> - Balot sculpture in Virginia Museum of Fine Arts <br/>37:30 ORA project status<br/>38:15 ORAgen Fables<br/>39:00 recommendations for creatives: to review C2PA &amp; Content Credentials<br/>41:00 Gould: responses during interviews about copyright concerns <br/>45:30 location of individuals interviewed<br/>47:20 impact of tech on issues of injustice - benefits/concerns surrounding decentralization <br/>50:40 current work with ORA<br/>51:30 Oluwatobi Aluko</p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>Show Notes:<br/>1:00 Anki Sanhi <br/>1:45 Sahni’s background and work <br/>5:00 <a href='http://mijowa.github.io/CatB/'>Eric Raymond’s The Cathedral and the Bazaar </a>- essay on open source development <br/>6:40 association with the arts<br/>7:45 trademark enforcement work<br/>10:00 infringement case between client working in fashion space sued by global brand<br/>12:30 origin of the Raghav project<br/>16:45 process to use Raghav<br/>18:30 <a href='https://www.britannica.com/topic/The-Starry-Night'>Van Gogh’s Starry Night </a><br/>21:00 Raghav = Robust Artificially Intelligent Graphics and Arts Visualizer <br/>21:45 Indian copyright application for “Suryast”<br/>25:40 <a href='https://indiankanoon.org/doc/1655540/'>Section 2(d) of Indian Copyright Act, definition of author </a><br/>34:30 Canadian copyright application for “Suryast”<br/>35:35 <a href='https://cms.cippic.ca/uploads/Notice_of_Application_CIPPIC_v_Sahni_Fed_Ct_No_T_1717_24_e3c1d14b95.PDF'>Notice of Application filed in Canadian Federal Court by Samuelson-Glushko Canadian Internet Policy and Public Interest Clinic (CIPPIC)  against Sahni over “Suryast” </a><br/>37:10 US copyright application for “Suryast” <br/>37:35 Sahni’s US Counsel, <a href='https://www.daypitney.com/professionals/g/garens-alex-p/'>Alex Garens, Esq. with Day Pitney </a><br/>38:00 <a href='https://www.copyright.gov/rulings-filings/review-board/docs/SURYAST.pdf'>USCO decision on “Suryast” </a><br/>43:30 India’s definition of ‘author’ - no qualifications <br/>46:50 Parliamentary Standing Committee recommended creation of new right for AI works per Sahni’s recommendation<br/>47:05 February 2024 -  Union Minister of State Commerce in India’s Parliament submitted that there is no need for creation of a new right and current legislation offers sufficient protection <br/>48:45 ambiguity in <a href='https://ised-isde.canada.ca/site/strategic-policy-sector/en/marketplace-framework-policy/copyright-policy/submissions-consultation-copyright-age-generative-artificial-intelligence-annex-detailed-questions'>Canada law on AI <br/></a>49:40 USCO’s Request for Comments<br/>52:00 Sahni’s position of need for amendment of US law to address AI<br/>53:50 <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Optimus_(robot)'>Optimus</a> <br/>54:50 Definition of justice<br/>56:30 global harmonized principles on AI<br/>57:30 injustice of humans unknowingly competing against AI due to historic suppression of AI use<br/>59:00 Sahni’s intent to contribute to the change in law to address AI<br/>1:00:00 consultation with <a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ryan_Abbott_(lawyer)'>Ryan Abbott, Esq. </a><br/>1:00:50 Future projects <br/>1:02:20 shaping issues where art and law intersect<br/>1:03:30 cultural impact of the debate over human authorship, AI and art<br/>1:04:30 comparison of photography to AI<br/><br/></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Send us Fan Mail   Cover Image: Artist's MFA Studio - Tribeca Ball. To learn more, please visit Stefania Salles Bruins' site.  Show Notes: 1:15 art school’s training to visually think 2:00 Bruins’ work as attorney 2:30 overview of grad program at New York Academy of Art 5:00 medium: use of linseed oil and paint without medium 5:30 tools: importance of brushes 6:15 support: Bruins’ preference for aluminum 7:15 Vincent Desiderio’s Cockaigne  8:00 Lesson 1 Perspective 8:45 Point of View 9:30 Les...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p><br/><br/>Cover Image: Artist&apos;s MFA Studio - Tribeca Ball.<br/>To learn more, please visit <a href='https://www.stefaniasallesbruins.com'>Stefania Salles Bruins&apos; site</a>.<br/><br/>Show Notes:<br/>1:15 art school’s training to visually think<br/>2:00 Bruins’ work as attorney<br/>2:30 overview of grad program at <a href='https://nyaa.edu'>New York Academy of Art</a><br/>5:00 medium: use of linseed oil and paint without medium<br/>5:30 tools: importance of brushes<br/>6:15 support: Bruins’ preference for aluminum<br/>7:15 <a href='https://nyaa.edu/graduate-program/faculty/senior-critics/vincent-desiderio/'>Vincent Desiderio</a>’s <a href='https://www.si.edu/object/cockaigne:hmsg_04.19'>Cockaigne</a> <br/>8:00 Lesson 1 Perspective<br/>8:45 Point of View<br/>9:30 Lesson 2 Light <br/>10:50 Lesson 2.5 Shadow<br/>11:30 Rembrandt’s <a href='https://www.rijksmuseum.nl/en/stories/operation-night-watch/story/ultra-high-resolution-photo'>The Nightwatch</a><br/>12:00 Lesson 3 Value <br/>12:55 Lesson 4 Temperature<br/>13:05 <a href='https://www.gustave-courbet.com/the-desperate-man.jsp'>Courbet’s The Madman or The Desperate Man </a><br/>13:50 <a href='https://www.stevenassael.com'>Steven Assael</a> - king of temperature shifts <br/>14:20 Lesson 5 Depth<br/>15:00 Value is King, Temperature is Queen and Color is a Fool <br/>15:30 Lesson 6 Lines <br/>15:40 shapes within <a href='https://www.louvre.fr/en/explore/the-palace/from-the-mona-lisa-to-the-wedding-feast-at-cana'>da Vinci’s Mona Lisa </a><br/>17:00 <a href='https://www.adammillerart.com'>Adam Miller</a> - narrative large oil paintings<br/>17:20 <a href='https://www.carldobsky.net'>Carl Dobsky </a><br/>17:30 <a href='https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3BKSS5uAuNk'>NYAA Big Stories exhibit artist talk </a><br/>18:00 transitions within grad school and post-grad<br/>19:40 learning to be your own voice of reason - parallel with work as general counsel<br/>20:55 Old Masters Rembrandt and Vermeer<br/>21:55 Alan Robertshaw: Vermeer’s use of optics<br/>23:00 SSB: application of illusions in cinema and inspiration from movies more than paintings<br/>24:00 <a href='https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ad_WS6h6NJw'>Kubrick&apos;s Barry Lyndon </a><br/>24:50 use of grids and projectors<br/>27:15 use of technical and human assistants<br/>28:45 critiques <br/>30:00 art historical references to read the work <br/>31:20 Nnebundo Obi: time commitments within art grad school<br/>32:50 <a href='https://escoda.com/en/'>Escoda brushes</a><br/>33:00 use of aluminum<br/>34:45 advice for individuals who want to begin painting<br/>35:30 always clean your brushes!</p><p>see also:</p><p><a href='https://www.instagram.com/p/C3DhyirOnl7/'>JP Roy&apos;s IG post re light</a></p><p><a href='https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GALLMJxLvgA'>checkerboard illusion</a></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p><br/><br/>Cover Image: Artist&apos;s MFA Studio - Tribeca Ball.<br/>To learn more, please visit <a href='https://www.stefaniasallesbruins.com'>Stefania Salles Bruins&apos; site</a>.<br/><br/>Show Notes:<br/>1:15 art school’s training to visually think<br/>2:00 Bruins’ work as attorney<br/>2:30 overview of grad program at <a href='https://nyaa.edu'>New York Academy of Art</a><br/>5:00 medium: use of linseed oil and paint without medium<br/>5:30 tools: importance of brushes<br/>6:15 support: Bruins’ preference for aluminum<br/>7:15 <a href='https://nyaa.edu/graduate-program/faculty/senior-critics/vincent-desiderio/'>Vincent Desiderio</a>’s <a href='https://www.si.edu/object/cockaigne:hmsg_04.19'>Cockaigne</a> <br/>8:00 Lesson 1 Perspective<br/>8:45 Point of View<br/>9:30 Lesson 2 Light <br/>10:50 Lesson 2.5 Shadow<br/>11:30 Rembrandt’s <a href='https://www.rijksmuseum.nl/en/stories/operation-night-watch/story/ultra-high-resolution-photo'>The Nightwatch</a><br/>12:00 Lesson 3 Value <br/>12:55 Lesson 4 Temperature<br/>13:05 <a href='https://www.gustave-courbet.com/the-desperate-man.jsp'>Courbet’s The Madman or The Desperate Man </a><br/>13:50 <a href='https://www.stevenassael.com'>Steven Assael</a> - king of temperature shifts <br/>14:20 Lesson 5 Depth<br/>15:00 Value is King, Temperature is Queen and Color is a Fool <br/>15:30 Lesson 6 Lines <br/>15:40 shapes within <a href='https://www.louvre.fr/en/explore/the-palace/from-the-mona-lisa-to-the-wedding-feast-at-cana'>da Vinci’s Mona Lisa </a><br/>17:00 <a href='https://www.adammillerart.com'>Adam Miller</a> - narrative large oil paintings<br/>17:20 <a href='https://www.carldobsky.net'>Carl Dobsky </a><br/>17:30 <a href='https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3BKSS5uAuNk'>NYAA Big Stories exhibit artist talk </a><br/>18:00 transitions within grad school and post-grad<br/>19:40 learning to be your own voice of reason - parallel with work as general counsel<br/>20:55 Old Masters Rembrandt and Vermeer<br/>21:55 Alan Robertshaw: Vermeer’s use of optics<br/>23:00 SSB: application of illusions in cinema and inspiration from movies more than paintings<br/>24:00 <a href='https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ad_WS6h6NJw'>Kubrick&apos;s Barry Lyndon </a><br/>24:50 use of grids and projectors<br/>27:15 use of technical and human assistants<br/>28:45 critiques <br/>30:00 art historical references to read the work <br/>31:20 Nnebundo Obi: time commitments within art grad school<br/>32:50 <a href='https://escoda.com/en/'>Escoda brushes</a><br/>33:00 use of aluminum<br/>34:45 advice for individuals who want to begin painting<br/>35:30 always clean your brushes!</p><p>see also:</p><p><a href='https://www.instagram.com/p/C3DhyirOnl7/'>JP Roy&apos;s IG post re light</a></p><p><a href='https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GALLMJxLvgA'>checkerboard illusion</a></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>To learn more, please visit the <a href='http://www.worldcultureproject.org'>World Culture Project</a> and read about D. Paul Schafer&apos;s most recent book, <a href='https://www.amazon.com/Great-Cultural-Awakening-Sustainable-Harmonious/dp/1772443166'>The Great Cultural Awakening</a><br/><br/>Show Notes:</p><p>0:00 Schafer quotes Gurte: “live in the whole , the good and the beautiful”</p><p>2:15 background </p><p>7:50 Ontario Arts Council</p><p>8:15 Arts Administration and Cultural Policy graduate program at York University</p><p>8:45 freelancer-UNESCO, Canadian Dep’t of External Affairs</p><p>9:25 publications predicated on argument that it’s time to shift from Economic Age to Cultural Age</p><p>9:50 creation of the World Culture Project</p><p>16:40 Culture: Beacon of the Future (1998)</p><p>18:10 AI impact</p><p>18:45 Geoffrey Hinton’s concerns over AI</p><p>20:50 Revolution or Renaissance: Making the Transition from an Economic Age to a Cultural Age (2008) </p><p>24:25 The World as Culture: Cultivation of the Soul to the Cosmic Whole (2022)</p><p>30:05 The Great Cultural Awakening: Key to an Equitable, Sustainable and Harmonious Age (2024)</p><p>42:30 future leaders should have backgrounds in the arts and culture sector</p><p>46:50 Feedback received about The Great Cultural Awakening</p><p>48:00 excerpt from The Great Cultural Awakening’s chapter titled Tale of Two Ages that references Charles Dickens’ Tale of Two Cities</p><p>53:00 the power of art to address social injustice</p><p>1:00:00 definition of justice</p><p>1:02:20 Cultural Historian Johan Huizinga, author of The Waning of the Middle Ages</p><p>1:04:20 legacy </p><p>1:06:40 future projects</p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <description><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>Show notes:</p><p>1:20 background and work in IP law and technology</p><p>2:20 blog article, <a href='https://www.technollama.co.uk/what-can-internet-history-teach-us'>“What can internet history teach us?”</a></p><p>3:25 IP issues emerging in the age of AI</p><p>5:10 inevitability of AI</p><p>6:40 global regulation of AI</p><p>8:25 Emily Gould - which body would handle global regulation of AI</p><p>11:00 <a href='https://www.coe.int/en/web/portal/-/council-of-europe-adopts-first-international-treaty-on-artificial-intelligence'>Council of Europe’s adoption of first AI international treaty </a></p><p>11:50 Gould - UK proposal to expand text and data mining exception to cover commercial uses </p><p>14:55 transparency issues </p><p>18:40 Gould - response - need for legislation</p><p>20:20 authorship question </p><p>21:40 <em>THJ Systems v. Sheridan </em>(THJ Systems Ltd. v. Sheridan [2023] EWCA Civ 1354, [2024] E.C.D.R. 4, CA, 20 November 2023) is of great interest because it confirms the test for originality in copyright law in the UK after Brexit.</p><p>22:55<a href='https://archive.org/details/li-v-liu-beijing-internet-court-20231127-with-english-translation'> Li v. Liu, Case Number: (2023) Jing 0491 Min Chu No. 11279, Beijing Internet Court, 27 November 2023</a></p><p>25:00 NFTs</p><p>25:30 <a href='https://www.copyright.gov/ai/docs/us-brief-for-appellees.pdf'><em>Thaler v. Perlmutter and USCO</em>, USCA Case #23-5233 </a></p><p> 29:30 continued utility of copyright </p><p>32:40 AI copyright suits in the US</p><p>36:30 cultural impact of AI models’ accelerated training capabilities </p><p>38:20 view of whether there is a future for careers in art</p><p>42:50 tools like spawning.ai for artists’ protections </p><p>43:00 opt ins versus opt outs</p><p>43:50 technological protections like Glaze and Nightshade </p><p>45:15 difficulty of implementing opt ins </p><p>47:45 injustices in the AI age and definition of justice</p><p>50:33 mark that Andres hopes to make with his work</p><p>53:40 Stefania Salles-Bruins - IP protection for AI software and outputs</p><p><br/></p><p><br/></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>Show notes:</p><p>1:20 background and work in IP law and technology</p><p>2:20 blog article, <a href='https://www.technollama.co.uk/what-can-internet-history-teach-us'>“What can internet history teach us?”</a></p><p>3:25 IP issues emerging in the age of AI</p><p>5:10 inevitability of AI</p><p>6:40 global regulation of AI</p><p>8:25 Emily Gould - which body would handle global regulation of AI</p><p>11:00 <a href='https://www.coe.int/en/web/portal/-/council-of-europe-adopts-first-international-treaty-on-artificial-intelligence'>Council of Europe’s adoption of first AI international treaty </a></p><p>11:50 Gould - UK proposal to expand text and data mining exception to cover commercial uses </p><p>14:55 transparency issues </p><p>18:40 Gould - response - need for legislation</p><p>20:20 authorship question </p><p>21:40 <em>THJ Systems v. Sheridan </em>(THJ Systems Ltd. v. Sheridan [2023] EWCA Civ 1354, [2024] E.C.D.R. 4, CA, 20 November 2023) is of great interest because it confirms the test for originality in copyright law in the UK after Brexit.</p><p>22:55<a href='https://archive.org/details/li-v-liu-beijing-internet-court-20231127-with-english-translation'> Li v. Liu, Case Number: (2023) Jing 0491 Min Chu No. 11279, Beijing Internet Court, 27 November 2023</a></p><p>25:00 NFTs</p><p>25:30 <a href='https://www.copyright.gov/ai/docs/us-brief-for-appellees.pdf'><em>Thaler v. Perlmutter and USCO</em>, USCA Case #23-5233 </a></p><p> 29:30 continued utility of copyright </p><p>32:40 AI copyright suits in the US</p><p>36:30 cultural impact of AI models’ accelerated training capabilities </p><p>38:20 view of whether there is a future for careers in art</p><p>42:50 tools like spawning.ai for artists’ protections </p><p>43:00 opt ins versus opt outs</p><p>43:50 technological protections like Glaze and Nightshade </p><p>45:15 difficulty of implementing opt ins </p><p>47:45 injustices in the AI age and definition of justice</p><p>50:33 mark that Andres hopes to make with his work</p><p>53:40 Stefania Salles-Bruins - IP protection for AI software and outputs</p><p><br/></p><p><br/></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>To learn more about Tetiana Cheprasova, please visit <a href='https://aa-e.org/en/artiste/cheprasova-tetiana-2/'>her page at Agency of Artists in Exile</a>.<br/><br/>Special thanks to Valentina Kostornichenko for acting as interpreter in this episode.<br/><br/>Show Notes:</p><p>0:00 Tetiana Cheprasova&apos;s view of the war in Ukraine &amp; interpreter Valentina Kostornichenko</p><p>1:30 Cheprasova&apos;s background and work in painting, photography, sculptures and graphic design </p><p>4:50 Giovanni Ercolani’s book The Maidan Museum Preserving the Spirit of Maidan. Art, Identity and the Revolution of Dignity that features Cheprasova’s paintings inspired by Caravaggio</p><p>8:00 from Cheprasova&apos;s <em>Depassement</em> portfolio - paintings of hands, including wounded hands signifying stigmata </p><p>10:30 Mariupol woman who inspired Cheprasova</p><p>20:40 ‘Stop Emotions’ series of 9 paintings</p><p>25:00 Cityscapes of Mariupol</p><p>29:30 sculpture that’s part of new work to depict destruction in Ukraine</p><p>34:00 Parisian architecture</p><p>35:00 consequences of war </p><p>38:00 power of art to address social injustices and the impact of war</p><p>41:00 Cheprasova&apos;s view of justice </p><p>45:40 Cheprasova’s work as art therapist</p><p>49:20 Cheprasova’s hope for viewers of her work</p><p>53:00 Giovanni Ercolani’s questions to Cheprasova </p><p>56:00 if only one person is impacted by your work, it’s worth doing </p><p>56:50 Artists as witnesses of their time</p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <description><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>To learn more, please visit <a href='https://www.angieelitanewell.com'>Angie Elita Newell&apos;s site for All I See Is Violence.</a><br/><br/>Show Notes:<br/><br/>1:20 Newel’s background </p><p>4:00 impetus to address historic inaccuracies</p><p>4:50 women warriors</p><p>5:30 research process</p><p>7:20 perspectives decided on for <b><em>All I See Is Violence</em></b></p><p>8:45 interconnectedness of all </p><p>10:15 timelines within <b><em>All I See Is Violence</em></b></p><p>11:50 reading from <b><em>All I See Is Violence</em></b></p><p>16:50 archival research</p><p>18:45 surreal stories from elders</p><p>20:40 feedback</p><p>21:40 Custer</p><p>22:40 power of art to address social issues</p><p>23:00 Picasso’s Guernica</p><p>25:00 reparations</p><p>25:50 the Very Little Truth and No Reconciliation Committee </p><p>27:00 reservations / prison camps</p><p>28:30 publishing process and manipulation of the truth by the big 5 publishers</p><p>32:30 Indigenous Poet Joy Harjo</p><p>33:30 American Indian movement in the 1970s</p><p>35:50 concept of justice related to awareness</p><p>38:40 next book tells story of Apache leader Geronimo and female warrior Lozen</p><p>43:50 research on Lozen</p><p>45:00 Mexican slave trade of indigenous people </p><p>45:45 questions from Anjali Rao</p><p>47:00 to build dual timelines, Newell asks questions about what’s the point and building on that overarching point</p><p><br/></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>To learn more, please visit <a href='https://www.angieelitanewell.com'>Angie Elita Newell&apos;s site for All I See Is Violence.</a><br/><br/>Show Notes:<br/><br/>1:20 Newel’s background </p><p>4:00 impetus to address historic inaccuracies</p><p>4:50 women warriors</p><p>5:30 research process</p><p>7:20 perspectives decided on for <b><em>All I See Is Violence</em></b></p><p>8:45 interconnectedness of all </p><p>10:15 timelines within <b><em>All I See Is Violence</em></b></p><p>11:50 reading from <b><em>All I See Is Violence</em></b></p><p>16:50 archival research</p><p>18:45 surreal stories from elders</p><p>20:40 feedback</p><p>21:40 Custer</p><p>22:40 power of art to address social issues</p><p>23:00 Picasso’s Guernica</p><p>25:00 reparations</p><p>25:50 the Very Little Truth and No Reconciliation Committee </p><p>27:00 reservations / prison camps</p><p>28:30 publishing process and manipulation of the truth by the big 5 publishers</p><p>32:30 Indigenous Poet Joy Harjo</p><p>33:30 American Indian movement in the 1970s</p><p>35:50 concept of justice related to awareness</p><p>38:40 next book tells story of Apache leader Geronimo and female warrior Lozen</p><p>43:50 research on Lozen</p><p>45:00 Mexican slave trade of indigenous people </p><p>45:45 questions from Anjali Rao</p><p>47:00 to build dual timelines, Newell asks questions about what’s the point and building on that overarching point</p><p><br/></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Send us Fan Mail To learn more, please visit Laura Morelli's site.  Show Notes: 0:00 Laura Morelli  discussing the WWII era art looting 1:15 genesis of writing about the looting of Florentine art collections in The Last Masterpiece  2:45 German Jewish artist Rudolph Levy as guest of German Art History Institute  4:30 Stolperstein for Levy 5:00 perspectives in WWII Italy: museum officials, German expatriates and Allies 8:30 German Eva Brunner and American Josephine Evans - chara...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>To learn more, please visit <a href='https://lauramorelli.com'>Laura Morelli&apos;s site</a>.<br/><br/>Show Notes:</p><p>0:00 Laura Morelli  discussing the WWII era art looting</p><p>1:15 genesis of writing about the looting of Florentine art collections in The Last Masterpiece </p><p>2:45 German Jewish artist Rudolph Levy as guest of German Art History Institute </p><p>4:30 Stolperstein for Levy</p><p>5:00 perspectives in WWII Italy: museum officials, German expatriates and Allies</p><p>8:30 German Eva Brunner and American Josephine Evans - characters in The Last Masterpiece </p><p>9:30 decisions on where to begin and end The Last Masterpiece</p><p>13:30 decision to use fictional characters versus historical figures in book</p><p>14:40 German Art History Institute Director Prof. Friedrich Kriegbaum</p><p>16:00 Kriegbaum’s participation in Hitler’s 1938 tour of Florence</p><p>18:25 Brunner’s back story</p><p>20:10 <a href='https://hildelotzbauer.net/about.html'>German photographer Hilde Lotz-Bauer </a>who worked for Prof. Kriegbaum photographing Allied damage to historical monuments in Florence </p><p>24:15 Evans based on Women’s Army Corp (WACs)</p><p>28:25 women who worked with and supported the Monuments Men</p><p>29:00 justice in terms of the individual actions and decisions that enabled the survival of art looted during WWII</p><p>31:30 books by Robert Edsel and Ilaria Dagnini Brey</p><p>32:15 survival bias </p><p>33:30 van Dyck painting</p><p>33:40 Uffizi Director Eike Schmidt’s work for Germany to return looted Dutch painting</p><p>35:00 impact of propaganda during WWII</p><p>38:10 Michelangelo’s Secret Room with 16th C drawings </p><p>42:20 2024 release of book related to hiding places in Tuscan countryside in 1943-44</p><p><br/></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>To learn more, please visit <a href='https://lauramorelli.com'>Laura Morelli&apos;s site</a>.<br/><br/>Show Notes:</p><p>0:00 Laura Morelli  discussing the WWII era art looting</p><p>1:15 genesis of writing about the looting of Florentine art collections in The Last Masterpiece </p><p>2:45 German Jewish artist Rudolph Levy as guest of German Art History Institute </p><p>4:30 Stolperstein for Levy</p><p>5:00 perspectives in WWII Italy: museum officials, German expatriates and Allies</p><p>8:30 German Eva Brunner and American Josephine Evans - characters in The Last Masterpiece </p><p>9:30 decisions on where to begin and end The Last Masterpiece</p><p>13:30 decision to use fictional characters versus historical figures in book</p><p>14:40 German Art History Institute Director Prof. Friedrich Kriegbaum</p><p>16:00 Kriegbaum’s participation in Hitler’s 1938 tour of Florence</p><p>18:25 Brunner’s back story</p><p>20:10 <a href='https://hildelotzbauer.net/about.html'>German photographer Hilde Lotz-Bauer </a>who worked for Prof. Kriegbaum photographing Allied damage to historical monuments in Florence </p><p>24:15 Evans based on Women’s Army Corp (WACs)</p><p>28:25 women who worked with and supported the Monuments Men</p><p>29:00 justice in terms of the individual actions and decisions that enabled the survival of art looted during WWII</p><p>31:30 books by Robert Edsel and Ilaria Dagnini Brey</p><p>32:15 survival bias </p><p>33:30 van Dyck painting</p><p>33:40 Uffizi Director Eike Schmidt’s work for Germany to return looted Dutch painting</p><p>35:00 impact of propaganda during WWII</p><p>38:10 Michelangelo’s Secret Room with 16th C drawings </p><p>42:20 2024 release of book related to hiding places in Tuscan countryside in 1943-44</p><p><br/></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Send us Fan Mail To learn more, please visit Barbara Hinske's website.  Cover photo of Barbara Hinske, 2020 Jean Laninga Creative.  Show Notes:  0:00 Guiding Emily Series to effect change for good in the sighted community  1:15 background in engineering and the law  2:00 whodunit books by Barbara’s father  2:25 double vision by auto accident led to Rosemont series  3:55 her approach to writing while still working as an attorney   7:00 work with a writing coach  8:15 writing coach Linden Gross...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>To learn more, please visit <a href='https://barbarahinske.com'>Barbara Hinske&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>Cover photo of Barbara Hinske, 2020 Jean Laninga Creative.<br/><br/>Show Notes:<br/><br/>0:00 Guiding Emily Series to effect change for good in the sighted community<br/><br/>1:15 background in engineering and the law<br/><br/>2:00 whodunit books by Barbara’s father<br/><br/>2:25 double vision by auto accident led to Rosemont series<br/><br/>3:55 her approach to writing while still working as an attorney <br/><br/>7:00 work with a writing coach<br/><br/>8:15 <a href='https://lindengross.com'>writing coach Linden Gross </a><br/><br/>8:45 <a href='https://theauthorconference.club'>Author Conference on Clubhouse</a> <br/><br/>10:30 Rosemont Series  <br/><br/>13:50 Guiding Emily Series<br/><br/>14:45 <a href='https://www.hallmarkchannel.com/guiding-emily'>Guiding Emily movie on Hallmark in April 2024 </a><br/><br/>15:00 genesis of Guiding Emily at <a href='https://www.youtube.com/@seeitourway'>Foundation for Blind Children</a> <br/><br/>22:50 discrimination against the visually impaired community<br/><br/>24:45 unemployment rate of the visually impaired community<br/><br/>26:00 panel to address employability of individuals from visually impaired community<br/><br/>30:05 viewers@hallmarkmedia.com <br/><br/>35:20 exclusion of unsighted parents<br/><br/>37:30 guide dog graduation ceremony<br/><br/>40:20 Guiding Emily presentation<br/><br/>41:40 power of art to shift and address social issues<br/><br/>42:00 <a href='https://www.hallmarkchannel.com/the-christmas-club'>The Christmas Club </a><br/><br/>44:00 pregnant unsighted individual’s experience<br/><br/>45:30 Canadian child at <a href='https://www.youtube.com/@seeitourway'>Foundation for Blind Children</a> <br/><br/>46:55 definition of justice<br/><br/>49:15 <a href='https://writeapproachpod.com'>The Write Approach podcast </a><br/><br/>51:20 Hinske’s strong older female protagonists <br/><br/>53:50 Final Circuit <br/><br/>57:30 self-published in e-book and print; traditionally published in audio<br/><br/>58:00 Hinske’s legacy to uplift, encourage and empower</p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>To learn more, please visit <a href='https://barbarahinske.com'>Barbara Hinske&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>Cover photo of Barbara Hinske, 2020 Jean Laninga Creative.<br/><br/>Show Notes:<br/><br/>0:00 Guiding Emily Series to effect change for good in the sighted community<br/><br/>1:15 background in engineering and the law<br/><br/>2:00 whodunit books by Barbara’s father<br/><br/>2:25 double vision by auto accident led to Rosemont series<br/><br/>3:55 her approach to writing while still working as an attorney <br/><br/>7:00 work with a writing coach<br/><br/>8:15 <a href='https://lindengross.com'>writing coach Linden Gross </a><br/><br/>8:45 <a href='https://theauthorconference.club'>Author Conference on Clubhouse</a> <br/><br/>10:30 Rosemont Series  <br/><br/>13:50 Guiding Emily Series<br/><br/>14:45 <a href='https://www.hallmarkchannel.com/guiding-emily'>Guiding Emily movie on Hallmark in April 2024 </a><br/><br/>15:00 genesis of Guiding Emily at <a href='https://www.youtube.com/@seeitourway'>Foundation for Blind Children</a> <br/><br/>22:50 discrimination against the visually impaired community<br/><br/>24:45 unemployment rate of the visually impaired community<br/><br/>26:00 panel to address employability of individuals from visually impaired community<br/><br/>30:05 viewers@hallmarkmedia.com <br/><br/>35:20 exclusion of unsighted parents<br/><br/>37:30 guide dog graduation ceremony<br/><br/>40:20 Guiding Emily presentation<br/><br/>41:40 power of art to shift and address social issues<br/><br/>42:00 <a href='https://www.hallmarkchannel.com/the-christmas-club'>The Christmas Club </a><br/><br/>44:00 pregnant unsighted individual’s experience<br/><br/>45:30 Canadian child at <a href='https://www.youtube.com/@seeitourway'>Foundation for Blind Children</a> <br/><br/>46:55 definition of justice<br/><br/>49:15 <a href='https://writeapproachpod.com'>The Write Approach podcast </a><br/><br/>51:20 Hinske’s strong older female protagonists <br/><br/>53:50 Final Circuit <br/><br/>57:30 self-published in e-book and print; traditionally published in audio<br/><br/>58:00 Hinske’s legacy to uplift, encourage and empower</p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Send us Fan Mail Featuring excerpts from Episode 108, an interview with Dr. Ashfaq Ishaq, and Episode 105, an interview with Milena Chorna, with musical composition by Toulme, Copyright 2024. Many thanks to M.C. Sungaila who sparked the idea for "Manifestation of Freedom".     Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com  Music by Toulme.  To hear more episodes, please visit Warfare of Art and Law podcast's website.  To leave questions or comments about...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>Featuring excerpts from Episode 108, an interview with Dr. Ashfaq Ishaq, and Episode 105, an interview with Milena Chorna, with musical composition by Toulme, Copyright 2024.</p><p>Many thanks to M.C. Sungaila who sparked the idea for &quot;Manifestation of Freedom&quot;. <br/><br/><br/></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>Featuring excerpts from Episode 108, an interview with Dr. Ashfaq Ishaq, and Episode 105, an interview with Milena Chorna, with musical composition by Toulme, Copyright 2024.</p><p>Many thanks to M.C. Sungaila who sparked the idea for &quot;Manifestation of Freedom&quot;. <br/><br/><br/></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>Show Notes:<br/>0:00 M.C. Sungaila discussing history / preservation of space exploration <br/>1:50 Sungaila’s <a href='https://www.portiaprojectpodcast.com'>Portia Project Podcast</a> interview with <a href='https://www.portiaprojectpodcast.com/episodes/episode-18-michelle-hanlon?rq=hanlon'>Space Law Expert Michelle Hanlon </a><br/>2:45 Sungaila’s experience with <a href='https://law.olemiss.edu/academics-programs/llm/'>University of Mississippi School of Law’s Air and Space Program </a><br/>5:30 unclear language related to space law<br/>8:00 mining on the moon<br/>9:40 lessons from Holocaust-era restitution cases like <a href='https://cdn.ca9.uscourts.gov/datastore/opinions/2024/01/09/19-55616.pdf'><em>Cassirer v. Thyssen-Bornemisza Collection Foundation</em></a><br/>12:30 <a href='https://www.forallmoonkind.org'>For All Moonkind</a> <br/>13:30 <a href='https://eventi.unibo.it/symposium-cultural-heritage-forli-2024'>International Symposium on Cultural Heritage in War and Peace: Tangible and Intangible Cultural Heritage through Past, Present and Future </a><br/>16:45 Sungaila’s proposed framework to create space cultural heritage commission<br/>22:45 <a href='https://www.nasa.gov/wp-content/uploads/2022/11/Artemis-Accords-signed-13Oct2020.pdf?emrc=653a00'>The Artemis Accords</a><br/>24:50 Italian Opera added to UNESCO intangible cultural heritage list<br/>25:15 treaty requiring registration of space objects <br/>25:35 <a href='https://moonregistry.forallmoonkind.org'>For All Moonkind’s moon registry</a> <br/>26:10 <a href='https://www.congress.gov/116/plaws/publ275/PLAW-116publ275.pdf'>One Small Step To Protect Human Heritage in Space Act </a><br/>27:40 Sungaila’s projection <br/>29:30 Dubai space court<br/>31:25 urgency of space cultural heritage preservation<br/>32:40 definition of justice <br/>35:40 <a href='https://cdn.ca9.uscourts.gov/datastore/opinions/2024/01/09/19-55616.pdf'>9th Cir&apos;s 9 Jan 2024 opinion in <em>Cassirer</em></a> and the question of ethics and law<br/>39:45 Mismatch between domestic law and international obligations <br/>42:10 <a href='https://www.forallmoonkind.org/institute/'>Institute on Space Law and Ethics </a><br/>44:00 issues related to satellites, drones, air taxis</p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <description><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>Cover image by Nosrat Tarighi of Sanjay Sethi at an AFI event entitled Revolutions and Movements<br/><br/>To learn more, please visit the sites for <a href='https://artisticfreedominitiative.org/'>Artistic Freedom Initiative</a> and <a href='https://sethimaz.com'>Sethi &amp; Mazaheri, LLC</a>.<br/><br/></p><p>Show Notes:<br/><br/></p><p>2:00 overview of Sethi’s background and work as Founding Partner of Sethi &amp; Mazaheri, LLC and Co-Executive Director of Artistic Freedom Initiative (AFI)<br/>3:45 genesis and mission of AFI<br/>5:00 AFI’s services<br/>8:00 AFI’s residency program<br/>9:00 AFI’s Artists for Social Change<br/>9:45 challenges to helping artists<br/>13:00 AFI’s creation of a sponsorship model<br/>13:30 AFI’s program in Germany<br/>15:00 determination of artists in imminent danger<br/>16:20 assistance for female artists<br/>18:20 university placements for female artists<br/>18:40 the New School’s fellowships for Afghan artists at risk<br/>19:00 Germany’s program for artists at risk<br/>21:00 <a href='https://www.berliner-ensemble.de/inszenierung/journals-exile'>Journals of Exile at the Berliner Ensemble</a><br/>22:10 programs through AFI’s Artists For Social Change<br/>23:45 Brazilian Singer Songwriter Bia Ferreira<br/>25:20 AFI’s Afghan Artists Protection Project &amp; Iranian Artists Support Project<br/>27:00 challenges of single intent visas like student visas and O-1 visas<br/>28:30 denial of entry based on immigration intent for Afghan versus Iranian artists <br/>30:00 applications from Myanmar, Egypt, Nicaragua, India and particular Kashmir<br/>31:00 impact of prior and upcoming elections <br/>31:30 Poland shifted back to center left with loss of Law and Justice (PiS) party<br/>31:50 Slovakia’s election of Fico w/ agenda similar to Hungary’s Orbán<br/>32:00 Slovenia’s election of liberal Robert Golob<br/>32:10 Brazil’s election of leftist former president, defeating Pres. Jair Bolsonaro<br/>32:15 Indian PM Narendra Modi’s Hindu Nationalist Party projected to win <br/>32:30 elections in Italy and the Netherlands<br/>32:45 new and different threats to cultural sectors globally<br/>33:00 AfI’s Artistic Freedom Monitor - initial reports on Poland and Hungary<br/>36:00 regimes replaced museum/cultural institute heads w/ right wing politicians<br/>36:00 Curation of shows under those regimes would conform to nationalist ideals<br/>37:25  defunding anti-regime institutions or anti-Catholic in Poland <br/>37:50 intimidation of non-conforming artists<br/>38:10 Poland’s use of blasphemy law to criminally charge non-conforming artists<br/>38:00 chilling effect of such subversive mechanisms <br/>39:15 AFI’s position that arts decisions should be merits-based and non-ideological   <br/>39:30 response to Artistic Freedom Monitor’s reports<br/>40:00 erroneous belief that arts are inconsequential in public &amp; political dialogue <br/>41:35 elevation of AFI’s advocacy efforts to an international forum <br/>44:00 collaboration to lobby for artistic and creative freedom<br/>45:00 impact of artificial intelligence <br/>47:50 legacy of his work<br/>49:50 his notion of justice <br/><br/></p><p><br/></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>Cover image by Nosrat Tarighi of Sanjay Sethi at an AFI event entitled Revolutions and Movements<br/><br/>To learn more, please visit the sites for <a href='https://artisticfreedominitiative.org/'>Artistic Freedom Initiative</a> and <a href='https://sethimaz.com'>Sethi &amp; Mazaheri, LLC</a>.<br/><br/></p><p>Show Notes:<br/><br/></p><p>2:00 overview of Sethi’s background and work as Founding Partner of Sethi &amp; Mazaheri, LLC and Co-Executive Director of Artistic Freedom Initiative (AFI)<br/>3:45 genesis and mission of AFI<br/>5:00 AFI’s services<br/>8:00 AFI’s residency program<br/>9:00 AFI’s Artists for Social Change<br/>9:45 challenges to helping artists<br/>13:00 AFI’s creation of a sponsorship model<br/>13:30 AFI’s program in Germany<br/>15:00 determination of artists in imminent danger<br/>16:20 assistance for female artists<br/>18:20 university placements for female artists<br/>18:40 the New School’s fellowships for Afghan artists at risk<br/>19:00 Germany’s program for artists at risk<br/>21:00 <a href='https://www.berliner-ensemble.de/inszenierung/journals-exile'>Journals of Exile at the Berliner Ensemble</a><br/>22:10 programs through AFI’s Artists For Social Change<br/>23:45 Brazilian Singer Songwriter Bia Ferreira<br/>25:20 AFI’s Afghan Artists Protection Project &amp; Iranian Artists Support Project<br/>27:00 challenges of single intent visas like student visas and O-1 visas<br/>28:30 denial of entry based on immigration intent for Afghan versus Iranian artists <br/>30:00 applications from Myanmar, Egypt, Nicaragua, India and particular Kashmir<br/>31:00 impact of prior and upcoming elections <br/>31:30 Poland shifted back to center left with loss of Law and Justice (PiS) party<br/>31:50 Slovakia’s election of Fico w/ agenda similar to Hungary’s Orbán<br/>32:00 Slovenia’s election of liberal Robert Golob<br/>32:10 Brazil’s election of leftist former president, defeating Pres. Jair Bolsonaro<br/>32:15 Indian PM Narendra Modi’s Hindu Nationalist Party projected to win <br/>32:30 elections in Italy and the Netherlands<br/>32:45 new and different threats to cultural sectors globally<br/>33:00 AfI’s Artistic Freedom Monitor - initial reports on Poland and Hungary<br/>36:00 regimes replaced museum/cultural institute heads w/ right wing politicians<br/>36:00 Curation of shows under those regimes would conform to nationalist ideals<br/>37:25  defunding anti-regime institutions or anti-Catholic in Poland <br/>37:50 intimidation of non-conforming artists<br/>38:10 Poland’s use of blasphemy law to criminally charge non-conforming artists<br/>38:00 chilling effect of such subversive mechanisms <br/>39:15 AFI’s position that arts decisions should be merits-based and non-ideological   <br/>39:30 response to Artistic Freedom Monitor’s reports<br/>40:00 erroneous belief that arts are inconsequential in public &amp; political dialogue <br/>41:35 elevation of AFI’s advocacy efforts to an international forum <br/>44:00 collaboration to lobby for artistic and creative freedom<br/>45:00 impact of artificial intelligence <br/>47:50 legacy of his work<br/>49:50 his notion of justice <br/><br/></p><p><br/></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>Show Notes:<br/>2:00 Dr. Joanna Sliwa’s background<br/>4:20 Dr. Elizabeth White’s background <br/>5:20 Majdanek concentration camp<br/>8:00 1989 - White received the manuscript of Dr. Janina Mehlberg’s unpublished memoir from Dr. Arthur Funk<br/>10:30 Dr. Janina Mehlberg’s humanitarian work in Polish concentration camp during WWII<br/>12:20 Mehlberg’s alias as Countess Suchodolska<br/>13:30 2018 - Dr. Joanna Sliwa began work with Dr. White to research Mehlberg&apos;s memoir<br/>15:00 reading from The Counterfeit Countess<br/>20:00 balance of co-authoring The Counterfeit Countess<br/>22:20 research process<br/>24:00 surprises from the research <br/>27:45 Countess Karolina Lanckorońska<br/>30:30 Saturnina Malm<br/>33:30 Dr. Stefania Perzanowska <br/>35:00 view of women’s roles during war and instances of persecution <br/>38:00 empathic approach of Mehlberg as a model for today<br/>42:00 propoganda<br/>46:00 individual ways to address hate<br/>49:00 justice<br/>51:45 legacy<br/>54:30 Sliwa’s focus on marginalized groups, including future volume on experiences of older jews before, during and after the Holocaust  <br/><br/></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Send us Fan Mail Show Notes:  1:00 overview of thesis topic 3:00 2018 music video at the Louvre by Beyoncé and Jay Z  3:55 Advertising campaign by Louis Vuitton that featured Joan Mitchell paintings 6:00 2020 Uffizi promotional campaign to promote Botticelli exhibition 7:25 Uffizi’s TikTok account posting with Dua Lipa  8:10 criticism of Uffizi campaigns 9:20 Approaches by EU and UK 11:20 Influencer marketing 14:35 EU Directive 30:10 Italian approach  33:00 liability under Ital...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>Show Notes:<br/><br/>1:00 overview of thesis topic<br/>3:00 2018 music video at the Louvre by Beyoncé and Jay Z <br/>3:55 Advertising campaign by Louis Vuitton that featured Joan Mitchell paintings<br/>6:00 2020 Uffizi promotional campaign to promote Botticelli exhibition<br/>7:25 Uffizi’s TikTok account posting with Dua Lipa <br/>8:10 criticism of Uffizi campaigns<br/>9:20 Approaches by EU and UK<br/>11:20 Influencer marketing<br/>14:35 EU Directive<br/>30:10 Italian approach <br/>33:00 liability under Italian case law and consumer code<br/>35:30 historical events that caused Gallo’s choice on research and thesis<br/>37:00 Emily Gould<br/>38:20 Alan Robertshaw <br/>43:15 risks and contractual issue with fees<br/>46:20 Gould<br/>47:45 Gallo on InstaGram disclosure </p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>Show Notes:<br/><br/>1:00 overview of thesis topic<br/>3:00 2018 music video at the Louvre by Beyoncé and Jay Z <br/>3:55 Advertising campaign by Louis Vuitton that featured Joan Mitchell paintings<br/>6:00 2020 Uffizi promotional campaign to promote Botticelli exhibition<br/>7:25 Uffizi’s TikTok account posting with Dua Lipa <br/>8:10 criticism of Uffizi campaigns<br/>9:20 Approaches by EU and UK<br/>11:20 Influencer marketing<br/>14:35 EU Directive<br/>30:10 Italian approach <br/>33:00 liability under Italian case law and consumer code<br/>35:30 historical events that caused Gallo’s choice on research and thesis<br/>37:00 Emily Gould<br/>38:20 Alan Robertshaw <br/>43:15 risks and contractual issue with fees<br/>46:20 Gould<br/>47:45 Gallo on InstaGram disclosure </p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <description><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>To learn more, please have a look at Dr. Ercolani&apos;s book, <a href='https://cup.columbia.edu/book/the-maidan-museum-preserving-the-spirit-of-maidan/9783838217635'>The Maidan Museum: Preserving the Spirit of Maidan</a>.<br/>Show Notes:<br/>1:00 Ercolani’s background<br/>3:50 Ercolani’s focus of Ukraine<br/>6:40 research and writing The Maidan Museum: Preserving the Spirit of Maidan<br/>11:40 new Maidan language created that includes symbols<br/>14:45 portraits by Marina Sochenko<br/>16:50 Yulia Ovcharenko<br/>17:45 Tatyana Cheprasova<br/>18:20 Cheprasova’s use of Caravaggio <br/>19:00 Oleksandr Ivanovych Melnyk’s “I Can See Your Deeds”<br/>19:45 Melnyk’s “I Can See Your Deeds”<br/>20:25 French anthropologist Marc Augé - ‘anthropology of encounter’<br/>21:15 Marina Sochenko’s art as documentation<br/>21:55 Artistic Hundreds group<br/>22:15 Artist Ivan Semesyuk with Artistic Hundreds<br/>26:15 Kandinsky quote that artists are receivers and beneficiaries<br/>28:15 Maidan art and a new world order<br/>33:45 NATO<br/>36:45 Maidan revolution and the current war<br/>41:00 memory of identify and identity war<br/>42:05 author Andrey Kurkov’s move to Ukraine to have the identity of Ukrainians<br/>43:25 significant of preserving art and cultural heritage in times of conflict<br/>47:00 his legacy <br/>49:50 his definition of justice<br/>51:15 the constitution of Melfi by Emperor Frederick II<br/>53:15 link between Russian-Ukraine War and Maidan Revolution<br/>58:45 next projects focused on conflict in society<br/>1:00:30 anthropological identity work tied to art and cultural heritage<br/>1:02:30 artist seen as enemy</p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>To learn more, please have a look at Dr. Ercolani&apos;s book, <a href='https://cup.columbia.edu/book/the-maidan-museum-preserving-the-spirit-of-maidan/9783838217635'>The Maidan Museum: Preserving the Spirit of Maidan</a>.<br/>Show Notes:<br/>1:00 Ercolani’s background<br/>3:50 Ercolani’s focus of Ukraine<br/>6:40 research and writing The Maidan Museum: Preserving the Spirit of Maidan<br/>11:40 new Maidan language created that includes symbols<br/>14:45 portraits by Marina Sochenko<br/>16:50 Yulia Ovcharenko<br/>17:45 Tatyana Cheprasova<br/>18:20 Cheprasova’s use of Caravaggio <br/>19:00 Oleksandr Ivanovych Melnyk’s “I Can See Your Deeds”<br/>19:45 Melnyk’s “I Can See Your Deeds”<br/>20:25 French anthropologist Marc Augé - ‘anthropology of encounter’<br/>21:15 Marina Sochenko’s art as documentation<br/>21:55 Artistic Hundreds group<br/>22:15 Artist Ivan Semesyuk with Artistic Hundreds<br/>26:15 Kandinsky quote that artists are receivers and beneficiaries<br/>28:15 Maidan art and a new world order<br/>33:45 NATO<br/>36:45 Maidan revolution and the current war<br/>41:00 memory of identify and identity war<br/>42:05 author Andrey Kurkov’s move to Ukraine to have the identity of Ukrainians<br/>43:25 significant of preserving art and cultural heritage in times of conflict<br/>47:00 his legacy <br/>49:50 his definition of justice<br/>51:15 the constitution of Melfi by Emperor Frederick II<br/>53:15 link between Russian-Ukraine War and Maidan Revolution<br/>58:45 next projects focused on conflict in society<br/>1:00:30 anthropological identity work tied to art and cultural heritage<br/>1:02:30 artist seen as enemy</p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Send us Fan Mail Featuring excerpts from Episode 121, an interview with Dr. Samson Munn and musical composition by Toulme, Copyright 2023.    Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com  Music by Toulme.  To hear more episodes, please visit Warfare of Art and Law podcast's website.  To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please m...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>Featuring excerpts from Episode 121, an interview with Dr. Samson Munn and musical composition by <a href='https://www.toulmemusic.com'>Toulme</a>, Copyright 2023.<br/><br/><br/></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>Featuring excerpts from Episode 121, an interview with Dr. Samson Munn and musical composition by <a href='https://www.toulmemusic.com'>Toulme</a>, Copyright 2023.<br/><br/><br/></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Send us Fan Mail Cover Photo of David Newhoff by Sean Mekas  To learn more, please visit Mr. Newhoff's site as well as his blog, The Illusion of More.  Show Notes:  1:45 Newhoff’s background   4:15 impetus to write Who Invented Oscar Wilde?: The Photograph at the Center of Modern American Copyright?   6:15 SCOTUS’s Warhol decision  10:00 Sarony’s input compared with and AI users’ input  14:00 Newhoff’s comments to USCO’s NOI and Request for Comments  17:20 compulsory licensing schem...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>Cover Photo of David Newhoff by Sean Mekas<br/><br/>To learn more, please visit <a href='https://davidnewhoff.com'>Mr. Newhoff&apos;s site</a> as well as his blog, <a href='https://illusionofmore.com'>The Illusion of More</a>.<br/><br/>Show Notes:<br/><br/>1:45 Newhoff’s background <br/><br/>4:15 impetus to write Who Invented Oscar Wilde?: The Photograph at the Center of Modern American Copyright? <br/><br/>6:15 SCOTUS’s Warhol decision<br/><br/>10:00 Sarony’s input compared with and AI users’ input<br/><br/>14:00 Newhoff’s comments to USCO’s NOI and Request for Comments<br/><br/>17:20 compulsory licensing scheme<br/><br/>18:50 RightsClick<br/><br/>25:45 USCO’s focus on how a work was created (by AI or human) versus leaving that to courts<br/><br/>25:55 feedback on his comments to USCO<br/><br/>32:00 AI copyright lawsuits in the US<br/><br/>36:25 liability for AI training data<br/><br/>40:45 Emily Gould: whether training involves making copies, EU exception for copies<br/><br/>43:00 whether US copyright is still fit for purpose in light of issues raised by AI<br/><br/>44:20 work “in the style of” <br/><br/>48:40 Deborah Roberts vs Lynthia Edwards - suit over collage works<br/><br/>52:30 Alan Robertshaw: threshold of infringing work versus transformative work<br/><br/>54:50 why use AI to create artwork<br/><br/>56:45 NFT hype<br/><br/>57:35 the legacy Newhoff hopes to be creating <br/><br/>58:50 Newhoff’s view of justice <br/><br/>1:01:00 status of Allen v. Cooper and Allen’s pending constitutional takings claim<br/><br/>1:04:00 camouflage patents<br/><br/>1:05:20 change from allowing IP claims against states to decision that Congress does not have that authority and 11th Amendment’s restriction of individuals bringing suit against states controlled </p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>Cover Photo of David Newhoff by Sean Mekas<br/><br/>To learn more, please visit <a href='https://davidnewhoff.com'>Mr. Newhoff&apos;s site</a> as well as his blog, <a href='https://illusionofmore.com'>The Illusion of More</a>.<br/><br/>Show Notes:<br/><br/>1:45 Newhoff’s background <br/><br/>4:15 impetus to write Who Invented Oscar Wilde?: The Photograph at the Center of Modern American Copyright? <br/><br/>6:15 SCOTUS’s Warhol decision<br/><br/>10:00 Sarony’s input compared with and AI users’ input<br/><br/>14:00 Newhoff’s comments to USCO’s NOI and Request for Comments<br/><br/>17:20 compulsory licensing scheme<br/><br/>18:50 RightsClick<br/><br/>25:45 USCO’s focus on how a work was created (by AI or human) versus leaving that to courts<br/><br/>25:55 feedback on his comments to USCO<br/><br/>32:00 AI copyright lawsuits in the US<br/><br/>36:25 liability for AI training data<br/><br/>40:45 Emily Gould: whether training involves making copies, EU exception for copies<br/><br/>43:00 whether US copyright is still fit for purpose in light of issues raised by AI<br/><br/>44:20 work “in the style of” <br/><br/>48:40 Deborah Roberts vs Lynthia Edwards - suit over collage works<br/><br/>52:30 Alan Robertshaw: threshold of infringing work versus transformative work<br/><br/>54:50 why use AI to create artwork<br/><br/>56:45 NFT hype<br/><br/>57:35 the legacy Newhoff hopes to be creating <br/><br/>58:50 Newhoff’s view of justice <br/><br/>1:01:00 status of Allen v. Cooper and Allen’s pending constitutional takings claim<br/><br/>1:04:00 camouflage patents<br/><br/>1:05:20 change from allowing IP claims against states to decision that Congress does not have that authority and 11th Amendment’s restriction of individuals bringing suit against states controlled </p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <description><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>Cover Image:  Self-Portrait, oil on canvas by <a href='https://www.macznik.org'>Jacob Mącznik</a>. <br/><br/>To learn more, please visit the <a href='https://www.macznik.org'>website for Jacob Mącznik</a>, the<a href='https://www.lostart.de/en/search?term=410143&amp;filter%5Btype%5D%5B0%5D=Objects'> Lost Art Database page for Mącznik&apos;s Still Life with Fish</a>,  <a href='https://nach.ws'>The Austrian Encounter</a> and the trailer to <a href='https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iAYgkHx8Tn8'>The Ghosts of the Third Reich</a>.<br/><br/><b>Show Notes:</b></p><p>0:00 Dr. Samson Munn discussing Van Ham art auctionhouse</p><p>1:45 Munn’s background</p><p>2:50 history of Holocaust-related dialogue with Dan Bar-On</p><p>4:00 Children of the Third Reich</p><p>4:20 Austrian dialogue group </p><p>4:35 Ghosts of the Third Reich</p><p>6:00 second group, The Encounter </p><p>7:45 Dan Bar-On’s book Fear and Hope</p><p>12:00 examples from dialogue groups</p><p>17:15 Munn’s initial motivation to start dialogue group - emotional responsibility </p><p>24:40 Munn’s dialogue work in Northern Ireland</p><p>27:25 dialogue work with descendants of displaced indigenous peoples</p><p>28:50 preparation for dialogue group facilitators </p><p>32:20 screening individuals for dialogue groups</p><p>33:45 Israeli, Polish and German citizenship</p><p>44:30 Jacob Mącznik’s work </p><p>1:00:00 Van Ham auctionhouse</p><p>1:06:00 Parisian archive research</p><p>1:11:00 Munn’s research of other artists from the Paris School</p><p>1:12:30 female artists from the Paris School</p><p>1:14:30 Mącznik catalogue raisonne</p><p>1:17:00 legacy that Munn is working to create</p><p>1:19:30 justice</p><p>1:22:30 Israeli PM Netanyahu</p><p><br/></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>Cover Image:  Self-Portrait, oil on canvas by <a href='https://www.macznik.org'>Jacob Mącznik</a>. <br/><br/>To learn more, please visit the <a href='https://www.macznik.org'>website for Jacob Mącznik</a>, the<a href='https://www.lostart.de/en/search?term=410143&amp;filter%5Btype%5D%5B0%5D=Objects'> Lost Art Database page for Mącznik&apos;s Still Life with Fish</a>,  <a href='https://nach.ws'>The Austrian Encounter</a> and the trailer to <a href='https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iAYgkHx8Tn8'>The Ghosts of the Third Reich</a>.<br/><br/><b>Show Notes:</b></p><p>0:00 Dr. Samson Munn discussing Van Ham art auctionhouse</p><p>1:45 Munn’s background</p><p>2:50 history of Holocaust-related dialogue with Dan Bar-On</p><p>4:00 Children of the Third Reich</p><p>4:20 Austrian dialogue group </p><p>4:35 Ghosts of the Third Reich</p><p>6:00 second group, The Encounter </p><p>7:45 Dan Bar-On’s book Fear and Hope</p><p>12:00 examples from dialogue groups</p><p>17:15 Munn’s initial motivation to start dialogue group - emotional responsibility </p><p>24:40 Munn’s dialogue work in Northern Ireland</p><p>27:25 dialogue work with descendants of displaced indigenous peoples</p><p>28:50 preparation for dialogue group facilitators </p><p>32:20 screening individuals for dialogue groups</p><p>33:45 Israeli, Polish and German citizenship</p><p>44:30 Jacob Mącznik’s work </p><p>1:00:00 Van Ham auctionhouse</p><p>1:06:00 Parisian archive research</p><p>1:11:00 Munn’s research of other artists from the Paris School</p><p>1:12:30 female artists from the Paris School</p><p>1:14:30 Mącznik catalogue raisonne</p><p>1:17:00 legacy that Munn is working to create</p><p>1:19:30 justice</p><p>1:22:30 Israeli PM Netanyahu</p><p><br/></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <description><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>Show Notes:</p><p>0:00 Yelena Khajekian</p><p>1:30 <a href='https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/22pdf/21-869_87ad.pdf'>Warhol v Goldsmith decision by SCOTUS </a></p><p>3:00 USCO NOI’s Question 8</p><p>4:00 Google LLC v. Oracle America, Inc., 593 U.S. ___ (2021)</p><p>4:20 liability question</p><p>4:45 Emily Gould - fair use</p><p>6:30 Alan Robertshaw - Warhol court’s focus on use of the work</p><p>7:50 Khajekian - artists’ perspective on Warhol decision</p><p>9:00 Campbell v. Acuff-Rose Music, Inc., 510 U.S. 569 (1994)</p><p>10:20 confusion of fair use analysis and court’s aesthetic analysis</p><p>12:00 USCO NOI’s Question about fair use </p><p>13:00 Robertshaw - UK’s fair dealing analysis</p><p>15:50 Gould - big players like Getty </p><p>17:45 text and data mining exception</p><p>20:10 Drawdy - private contracting as a solution</p><p>21:00 Robertshaw - Getty</p><p>22:15 Khajekian - conceptual art</p><p>25:55 Warhol’s 2 Cir decision </p><p>26:50 Gould &amp; Khajekian - Richard Prince decision held not fair use</p><p>27:20 Khajekian - equity issue</p><p>28:40 Gould - UK courts’ emphasis on purpose, e.g., Stormtrooper helmet case </p><p>30:30 Drawdy - amount and substantiality of use</p><p>31:10 Gould - Australian case about Men at Work’s use of folk song Kookaburra in its pop song Down Under</p><p>32:20 Robershaw - dispute over Vanilla Ice’s Ice Ice Baby</p><p>33:00 Ed Sheeran  </p><p>34:15 Getty case pending in UK</p><p>35:00 Khajekian - international versus US issues </p><p>37:30 Robershaw - test that contemplates level of effort or end result regarding AI output</p><p>40:30 Gould - risks involved with AI</p><p>40:50 EU’s application-based approach </p><p>41:10 AI for medical applications</p><p>41:55 detecting forgeries will still require humans, e.g., conflicting AI results regarding Raphael</p><p>42:50  implicit bias in AI</p><p>43:15 dogs detecting forgeries </p><p>43:40 chickens detecting shapes</p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>Show Notes:</p><p>0:00 Yelena Khajekian</p><p>1:30 <a href='https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/22pdf/21-869_87ad.pdf'>Warhol v Goldsmith decision by SCOTUS </a></p><p>3:00 USCO NOI’s Question 8</p><p>4:00 Google LLC v. Oracle America, Inc., 593 U.S. ___ (2021)</p><p>4:20 liability question</p><p>4:45 Emily Gould - fair use</p><p>6:30 Alan Robertshaw - Warhol court’s focus on use of the work</p><p>7:50 Khajekian - artists’ perspective on Warhol decision</p><p>9:00 Campbell v. Acuff-Rose Music, Inc., 510 U.S. 569 (1994)</p><p>10:20 confusion of fair use analysis and court’s aesthetic analysis</p><p>12:00 USCO NOI’s Question about fair use </p><p>13:00 Robertshaw - UK’s fair dealing analysis</p><p>15:50 Gould - big players like Getty </p><p>17:45 text and data mining exception</p><p>20:10 Drawdy - private contracting as a solution</p><p>21:00 Robertshaw - Getty</p><p>22:15 Khajekian - conceptual art</p><p>25:55 Warhol’s 2 Cir decision </p><p>26:50 Gould &amp; Khajekian - Richard Prince decision held not fair use</p><p>27:20 Khajekian - equity issue</p><p>28:40 Gould - UK courts’ emphasis on purpose, e.g., Stormtrooper helmet case </p><p>30:30 Drawdy - amount and substantiality of use</p><p>31:10 Gould - Australian case about Men at Work’s use of folk song Kookaburra in its pop song Down Under</p><p>32:20 Robershaw - dispute over Vanilla Ice’s Ice Ice Baby</p><p>33:00 Ed Sheeran  </p><p>34:15 Getty case pending in UK</p><p>35:00 Khajekian - international versus US issues </p><p>37:30 Robershaw - test that contemplates level of effort or end result regarding AI output</p><p>40:30 Gould - risks involved with AI</p><p>40:50 EU’s application-based approach </p><p>41:10 AI for medical applications</p><p>41:55 detecting forgeries will still require humans, e.g., conflicting AI results regarding Raphael</p><p>42:50  implicit bias in AI</p><p>43:15 dogs detecting forgeries </p><p>43:40 chickens detecting shapes</p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Send us Fan Mail Cover art: Martha Szabo, Rooftops in Snow 11, oil on linen, 24 x 35 in., circa 1964   To learn more, please visit the sites for Martha Szabo and MSeum.   Show Notes:  0:00 Art historian Kathleen Hulser  1:30 Journalist Julia Szabo’s motivation to work on Martha Szabo’s body of work  4:30 MSeum to be built in the Catskills  5:00 National Association of Women in Construction  7:50 Justice for unknown female artists  11:15 Museum’s mission related to blind and low-vision visitor...]]></itunes:summary>
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    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>Cover art: Martha Szabo, Rooftops in Snow 11, oil on linen, 24 x 35 in., circa 1964 <br/><br/>To learn more, please visit the sites for <a href='https://marthaszabo.com/about'>Martha Szabo</a> and <a href='https://mseum.space'>MSeum</a>. <br/><br/>Show Notes:<br/><br/>0:00 Art historian Kathleen Hulser<br/><br/>1:30 Journalist Julia Szabo’s motivation to work on Martha Szabo’s body of work<br/><br/>4:30 MSeum to be built in the Catskills<br/><br/>5:00 National Association of Women in Construction<br/><br/>7:50 Justice for unknown female artists<br/><br/>11:15 Museum’s mission related to blind and low-vision visitors<br/><br/>13:45 Sculpture Robin Antar’s limestone sculpture of Szabo’s “Red Sunset”<br/><br/>15:20 Legacy to be created with MSeum includes redefining storage<br/><br/>16:45 Visible storage space<br/><br/>18:30 Julia Szabo’s parents <br/><br/>19:45 ‘Mother Artist’ field of scholarship<br/><br/>20:00 Author Hettie Judah <br/><br/>21:20 Reception for Martha Szabo’s exhibition Up On the Roof<br/><br/>22:10 <a href='https://www.cmasseyart.com'>Artist Christina Massey </a><br/><br/>23:20 Museum’s director Kathleen Hulser<br/><br/>24:30 “Up On the Roof” exhibition curated by Hulser<br/><br/>26:00 “Incorrigibles” trans media project<br/><br/>27:45 MSeum’s creation and mission<br/><br/>34:15 Hulser’s scope a MuSeum <br/><br/>36:45 Martha Szabo’s background and how it impacted her work  <br/><br/>43:15 Feedback about Martha Szabo’s solo exhibition Up On The Roof: Liberation, Transformation, Celebration<br/><br/>49:35 MSeum and exhibitions like “Up On The Roof” role in bringing some historical justice for female creatives<br/><br/> 52:10 <a href='https://davidrichardgallery.com/exhibit/643-martha-szabo'>David Richard Gallery </a><br/><br/><br/></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Send us Fan Mail Cover art by Donald "C-Note" Hooker: top image "Cell Time" (2019); bottom image "During the Flood" (2017)  To learn more, please visit the sites for Donald "C-Note" Hooker and Art for Redemption.  Show Notes: 0:00 Anna D. Smith discussing C-Note Hooker’s artwork entitled “During the Flood” 1:20 Smith’s background 3:15 Smith’s work as a court advocate 4:00 Smith’s adoption of son, Emmanuel  4:45 Smith’s contact with artist Donald “C-Note” Hooker 5:55 Art for Redemption co...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>Cover art by Donald &quot;C-Note&quot; Hooker: top image &quot;Cell Time&quot; (2019); bottom image &quot;During the Flood&quot; (2017)<br/><br/>To learn more, please visit the sites for <a href='https://www.c-note.org'>Donald &quot;C-Note&quot; Hooker</a> and <a href='https://artforredemption.com/pages/our-story-from-inmate-to-entrepreneur'>Art for Redemption</a>.<br/><br/>Show Notes:<br/>0:00 Anna D. Smith discussing C-Note Hooker’s artwork entitled “During the Flood”<br/>1:20 Smith’s background<br/>3:15 Smith’s work as a court advocate<br/>4:00 Smith’s adoption of son, Emmanuel <br/>4:45 Smith’s contact with artist Donald “C-Note” Hooker<br/>5:55 Art for Redemption coffee book<br/>6:10 C-Note’s work related to social justice<br/>6:45 “During the Flood” aka “Count Time”<br/>7:50 California prison built on flood-prone areas <br/>8:45 compensation for incarcerated workers<br/>11:00 Smith’s efforts to sell C-Note’s artwork<br/>11:45 billboards “Incarceration Nation” and “Look Up Hope and Beauty”<br/>12:20 “Colored Girl Warhol”<br/>13:20 Billboard events to raise awareness about issues for the individuals in the system, the homeless, parolees <br/>14:10 “Incarceration Nation”<br/>14:50 misconceptions about individuals in the system<br/>16:45 defining justice and amendment of the 13th Amendment <br/>19:00 power of imagery to impact social awareness about issues with the system<br/>20:30 legacy and need for connections<br/>21:00 Martin Luther King’s inspiration to love one’s enemies<br/>24:00 incarcerated individual who entered contest about rehabilitation <br/>27:00 view of justice for Smith began with her father’s work as teacher of economics to those incarcerated<br/>30:30 Vanity Fair article <br/>32:00 importance of the arts in the system </p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>Cover art by Donald &quot;C-Note&quot; Hooker: top image &quot;Cell Time&quot; (2019); bottom image &quot;During the Flood&quot; (2017)<br/><br/>To learn more, please visit the sites for <a href='https://www.c-note.org'>Donald &quot;C-Note&quot; Hooker</a> and <a href='https://artforredemption.com/pages/our-story-from-inmate-to-entrepreneur'>Art for Redemption</a>.<br/><br/>Show Notes:<br/>0:00 Anna D. Smith discussing C-Note Hooker’s artwork entitled “During the Flood”<br/>1:20 Smith’s background<br/>3:15 Smith’s work as a court advocate<br/>4:00 Smith’s adoption of son, Emmanuel <br/>4:45 Smith’s contact with artist Donald “C-Note” Hooker<br/>5:55 Art for Redemption coffee book<br/>6:10 C-Note’s work related to social justice<br/>6:45 “During the Flood” aka “Count Time”<br/>7:50 California prison built on flood-prone areas <br/>8:45 compensation for incarcerated workers<br/>11:00 Smith’s efforts to sell C-Note’s artwork<br/>11:45 billboards “Incarceration Nation” and “Look Up Hope and Beauty”<br/>12:20 “Colored Girl Warhol”<br/>13:20 Billboard events to raise awareness about issues for the individuals in the system, the homeless, parolees <br/>14:10 “Incarceration Nation”<br/>14:50 misconceptions about individuals in the system<br/>16:45 defining justice and amendment of the 13th Amendment <br/>19:00 power of imagery to impact social awareness about issues with the system<br/>20:30 legacy and need for connections<br/>21:00 Martin Luther King’s inspiration to love one’s enemies<br/>24:00 incarcerated individual who entered contest about rehabilitation <br/>27:00 view of justice for Smith began with her father’s work as teacher of economics to those incarcerated<br/>30:30 Vanity Fair article <br/>32:00 importance of the arts in the system </p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <description><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>To learn more and support Vacant to Visual artists, please visit the <a href='https://www.citykey.art '>CityKey website</a>. <br/><br/>To reach out and learn more about Ernest Chrappah&apos;s work, please visit his <a href='https://ernestandcompanyllc.com'>website</a>. <br/><br/>Show notes:<br/><br/>0:00 Ernest Chrappah<br/>1:10 Chrappah’s background<br/>4:00 Washington DC’s Vacant to Visual program<br/>9:00 artists included in the Vacant to Visual program<br/>9:50<a href='https://www.citykey.art/carryout-kid-1/'> Nia Keturah Calhoun </a><br/>11:15 <a href='https://www.citykey.art/ro-stephenson/'>“Ro” Stephenson </a><br/>12:00 Vacant to Visual NFTs <br/>13:40 feedback from Vacant to Visual program<br/>16:20 Vacant to Visual program as a model for other cities<br/>18:20 his view on how art can be used to create a more just society <br/>20:45 his defintiion of justice<br/>23:15 future work<br/>25:30 AI policy<br/>28:30 <a href='https://dob.dc.gov/vacanttovisual'>Vacant To Visual Site</a> and <a href='https://www.citykey.art/washington-dc/'>Vacant to Visual NFT purchase cite</a><br/><br/><br/></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>To learn more and support Vacant to Visual artists, please visit the <a href='https://www.citykey.art '>CityKey website</a>. <br/><br/>To reach out and learn more about Ernest Chrappah&apos;s work, please visit his <a href='https://ernestandcompanyllc.com'>website</a>. <br/><br/>Show notes:<br/><br/>0:00 Ernest Chrappah<br/>1:10 Chrappah’s background<br/>4:00 Washington DC’s Vacant to Visual program<br/>9:00 artists included in the Vacant to Visual program<br/>9:50<a href='https://www.citykey.art/carryout-kid-1/'> Nia Keturah Calhoun </a><br/>11:15 <a href='https://www.citykey.art/ro-stephenson/'>“Ro” Stephenson </a><br/>12:00 Vacant to Visual NFTs <br/>13:40 feedback from Vacant to Visual program<br/>16:20 Vacant to Visual program as a model for other cities<br/>18:20 his view on how art can be used to create a more just society <br/>20:45 his defintiion of justice<br/>23:15 future work<br/>25:30 AI policy<br/>28:30 <a href='https://dob.dc.gov/vacanttovisual'>Vacant To Visual Site</a> and <a href='https://www.citykey.art/washington-dc/'>Vacant to Visual NFT purchase cite</a><br/><br/><br/></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Send us Fan Mail To learn more, please visit the website for the #lastseen project.   SHOW NOTES: 0:00 Katharina Menschick on the response to #lastseen project 3:00 Menschick – research associate in Arolsen Archives’ historical research department dealing with digital memory projects, digital archival projects and archival theory 3:20 Dr. Christoph Kreutzmüller – historian with Arolsen Archives and House of the Wannsee Conference in Berlin 3:45 mission of the #lastseen initiative 5:00 missing...]]></itunes:summary>
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    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>To learn more, please visit the <a href='https://lastseen.arolsen-archives.org'>website for the #lastseen project</a>. <br/><br/><b>SHOW NOTES:</b></p><p>0:00 Katharina Menschick on the response to #lastseen project</p><p>3:00 Menschick – research associate in Arolsen Archives’ historical research department dealing with digital memory projects, digital archival projects and archival theory</p><p>3:20 Dr. Christoph Kreutzmüller – historian with Arolsen Archives and <em>House of the Wannsee Conference in Berlin</em></p><p>3:45 mission of the #lastseen initiative</p><p>5:00 missing deportation photographs </p><p>6:00 deportation photographs found by American GI and returned during Nuremberg trials</p><p>7:00 request for deportation photographs</p><p>7:20 types of deportation photographs </p><p>8:30 Eisenach deportation – Magda Katz </p><p>9:00 U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum research – donor identified uncle in photograph </p><p>11:15 deportation from Dr. Kreutzmüller’s hometown</p><p>12:30 questions about why photographers took the deportation photos</p><p>13:00 spectatorship / audience of the photographs</p><p>14:20 importance of photographs as a historical source</p><p>14:45 virtual interactive educational resource</p><p>16:45 German high school pupils’ assistance in developing educational resource</p><p>18:10 difficulty of discussing bystanders </p><p>19:30 photographs invite reflection </p><p>22:00 historical transparency by telling what they don’t know </p><p>25:00 giving context to photographs </p><p>28:30 gaze of those photographed</p><p>29:15 propaganda film in Warsaw Ghetto</p><p>30:20 legacy of their work </p><p>32:15 definition of justice – striving for fairness</p><p>33:00 real restoration cannot be achieved</p><p>34:00 doing justice to the photographs and to those in the photographs</p><p>34:45 restitution through archives <br/><br/></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Send us Fan Mail  SHOW NOTES: 0:00 Alan Robertshaw 1:00 Emily Gould - overview of AI historical development 2:30 first phase - 1950s Alan Turing - machines do what they are told 3:10 second phase - machine learning creating models using data and develop methods to make decisions / predictions based on that data 3:50 third phase - deep learning usually using neural networks to mimic the human brain 4:50 GANs - part of third phase that involve generator and discriminator algorithms 5:55 Ob...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p> SHOW NOTES:<br/>0:00 Alan Robertshaw<br/>1:00 Emily Gould - overview of AI historical development<br/>2:30 first phase - 1950s Alan Turing - machines do what they are told<br/>3:10 second phase - machine learning creating models using data and develop methods to make decisions / predictions based on that data<br/>3:50 third phase - deep learning usually using neural networks to mimic the human brain<br/>4:50 GANs - part of third phase that involve generator and discriminator algorithms<br/>5:55 Obvious’ Portrait of Edmond de Belamy<br/>6:40 Robbie Barrett’s code used by Obvious <br/>8:40 unpredictability in the deep learning phase <br/>9:25 different tests applied to determine if a machine is intelligent<br/>9:55 Turing test - machine is intelligent if you can’t tell the difference between responses by a human and a machine<br/>10:10 Lovelace test - machine is intelligent if you can’t explain machine’s answer<br/>11:20 ‘Alpha Go’ algorithm <br/>13:30 uses of AI<br/>14:20 huge training data sets<br/>15:50 major risks with AI include copyright <br/>17:10 privacy and data protection<br/>17:20 transparency - deep fake<br/>17:40 bias amplification<br/>18:15 <a href='https://www.forbes.com/sites/ariannajohnson/2023/05/25/racism-and-ai-heres-how-its-been-criticized-for-amplifying-bias/?sh=1f82a73f269d'>MIT researcher Joy Buolamwini’s work with facial analysis software </a><br/>19:45 UK’s pro-innovation approach to AI<br/>21:45 text and data mining (TDM) exception only for non-commercial use - proposal to expand to commercial use<br/>24:25 Nov 2022 government decided not to expand TDM exception to commercial use<br/>24:55 <a href='https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/pro-innovation-regulation-of-technologies-review-digital-technologies'>UK Pro-innovation Regulation of Technologies Review </a><br/>26:45 <a href='https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/ai-regulation-a-pro-innovation-approach/white-paper'>A pro-innovation approach to AI regulation policy paper  - no legislation in the short term, no move to central regulatory body for AI </a><br/>29:30 AI described in UK white paper as including autonomy and adaptivity <br/>32:25 Global Summit on AI Safety<br/>32:45 EU AI Act with risk—based approach - June 2023 signed off by Parliament; final conclusions expected late 2023; operational circa 2026<br/>36:35 US - AI suits pending<br/>37:00 Robbie Barrett <br/>38:00 opt in versus opt out policy<br/>39:20 Senate testimony regarding UK’s AI advances<br/>40:15 US Task Force on AI Policy proposed; Privacy Consumer Protection Framework<br/>40:45 Getty v. Stability AI suits in US and UK<br/>41:25 <a href='https://foreignpolicy.com/2023/08/04/ai-regulation-artificial-intelligence-democracy-elections/'>2024 elections and AI </a><br/>44:00 Alan Robertshaw’s case with Getty <br/>47:05 Gould: AI voice scam<br/>48:00 Robertshaw: AI uses<br/>50:20 AI medical screening<br/>53:00 consciousness<br/>56:00 Artist Sofia Crespo’s work with natural history<br/>56:30 Lines and Bones by artist Iskra Velitchkova<br/>56:50 <a href='https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UmtrrN-oJwg'>Dawn Chorus Alexandra Daisy Ginsberg </a><br/>57:30 projection for how artists in the UK will address AI issues </p><p><br/></p><p><br/></p><p><br/></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p> SHOW NOTES:<br/>0:00 Alan Robertshaw<br/>1:00 Emily Gould - overview of AI historical development<br/>2:30 first phase - 1950s Alan Turing - machines do what they are told<br/>3:10 second phase - machine learning creating models using data and develop methods to make decisions / predictions based on that data<br/>3:50 third phase - deep learning usually using neural networks to mimic the human brain<br/>4:50 GANs - part of third phase that involve generator and discriminator algorithms<br/>5:55 Obvious’ Portrait of Edmond de Belamy<br/>6:40 Robbie Barrett’s code used by Obvious <br/>8:40 unpredictability in the deep learning phase <br/>9:25 different tests applied to determine if a machine is intelligent<br/>9:55 Turing test - machine is intelligent if you can’t tell the difference between responses by a human and a machine<br/>10:10 Lovelace test - machine is intelligent if you can’t explain machine’s answer<br/>11:20 ‘Alpha Go’ algorithm <br/>13:30 uses of AI<br/>14:20 huge training data sets<br/>15:50 major risks with AI include copyright <br/>17:10 privacy and data protection<br/>17:20 transparency - deep fake<br/>17:40 bias amplification<br/>18:15 <a href='https://www.forbes.com/sites/ariannajohnson/2023/05/25/racism-and-ai-heres-how-its-been-criticized-for-amplifying-bias/?sh=1f82a73f269d'>MIT researcher Joy Buolamwini’s work with facial analysis software </a><br/>19:45 UK’s pro-innovation approach to AI<br/>21:45 text and data mining (TDM) exception only for non-commercial use - proposal to expand to commercial use<br/>24:25 Nov 2022 government decided not to expand TDM exception to commercial use<br/>24:55 <a href='https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/pro-innovation-regulation-of-technologies-review-digital-technologies'>UK Pro-innovation Regulation of Technologies Review </a><br/>26:45 <a href='https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/ai-regulation-a-pro-innovation-approach/white-paper'>A pro-innovation approach to AI regulation policy paper  - no legislation in the short term, no move to central regulatory body for AI </a><br/>29:30 AI described in UK white paper as including autonomy and adaptivity <br/>32:25 Global Summit on AI Safety<br/>32:45 EU AI Act with risk—based approach - June 2023 signed off by Parliament; final conclusions expected late 2023; operational circa 2026<br/>36:35 US - AI suits pending<br/>37:00 Robbie Barrett <br/>38:00 opt in versus opt out policy<br/>39:20 Senate testimony regarding UK’s AI advances<br/>40:15 US Task Force on AI Policy proposed; Privacy Consumer Protection Framework<br/>40:45 Getty v. Stability AI suits in US and UK<br/>41:25 <a href='https://foreignpolicy.com/2023/08/04/ai-regulation-artificial-intelligence-democracy-elections/'>2024 elections and AI </a><br/>44:00 Alan Robertshaw’s case with Getty <br/>47:05 Gould: AI voice scam<br/>48:00 Robertshaw: AI uses<br/>50:20 AI medical screening<br/>53:00 consciousness<br/>56:00 Artist Sofia Crespo’s work with natural history<br/>56:30 Lines and Bones by artist Iskra Velitchkova<br/>56:50 <a href='https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UmtrrN-oJwg'>Dawn Chorus Alexandra Daisy Ginsberg </a><br/>57:30 projection for how artists in the UK will address AI issues </p><p><br/></p><p><br/></p><p><br/></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Send us Fan Mail To learn more, please visit the sites for Sojourn Theatre, One Nation/One Project, and the Undoing Time: Art and Histories of Incarceration exhibition.  Cover Photograph: "Rohd co-facilitating an arts convening in Boston this past fall with Nicole Brewer and musicians from Silkroad Ensemble"  Show Notes: 3:45 Rohd’s background 4:50 'Hope is Vital' project in DC area 7:00 Sojourn Theatre 10:10 2003 disruption in Oregon legislature 11:50 'Witness Our Schools' project ...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>To learn more, please visit the sites for <a href='http://www.sojourntheatre.org/'>Sojourn Theatre</a>, <a href='https://www.onenationoneproject.com'>One Nation/One Project</a>, and the <a href='https://cacno.org/visual-arts/undoing-time'><em>Undoing Time: Art and Histories of Incarceration</em> exhibition</a>. </p><p>Cover Photograph: &quot;Rohd co-facilitating an arts convening in Boston this past fall with Nicole Brewer and musicians from Silkroad Ensemble&quot;<br/><br/>Show Notes:</p><p>3:45 Rohd’s background</p><p>4:50 &apos;Hope is Vital&apos; project in DC area</p><p>7:00 Sojourn Theatre</p><p>10:10 2003 disruption in Oregon legislature</p><p>11:50 &apos;Witness Our Schools&apos; project - role of public education today </p><p>14:30 impact of bringing voices in and building relationships for a different kind of dialogue</p><p>15:15 criteria for success of arts-based work around civic issues </p><p>16:10 One Nation / One Project rooted in post-Great Depression Federal Theater project</p><p>22:15 local community involvement centered on building relationships</p><p>25:30 approach to critics of social-based arts programs</p><p>28:10 Center for Performance and Civil Practice (CPCP) - collective of 9 </p><p>33:45 <em>Undoing Time: Art and Histories of Incarceration</em> exhibition with Arizona State University Art Museum Director Miki Garcia (Episode 79)</p><p>37:45 choreography / dramaturgy for <em>Undoing Time</em></p><p>40:20 questions posed in <em>Undoing Time</em></p><p>42:10 future project for the cards created from <em>Undoing Time </em></p><p>44:45 aspect of justice included in the question he focuses on: who are we responsible for?</p><p>47:30 influence of teachers that led Rohd to his current work</p><p>49:50 legacy </p><p>51:30 Co-Lab for Civic Imagination in Montana</p><p>53:50 ‘Communities of Care’ model</p><p>54:15 Definition of Civic Imagination - like functional democracy</p><p><br/></p><p><br/></p><p><br/></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>To learn more, please visit the sites for <a href='http://www.sojourntheatre.org/'>Sojourn Theatre</a>, <a href='https://www.onenationoneproject.com'>One Nation/One Project</a>, and the <a href='https://cacno.org/visual-arts/undoing-time'><em>Undoing Time: Art and Histories of Incarceration</em> exhibition</a>. </p><p>Cover Photograph: &quot;Rohd co-facilitating an arts convening in Boston this past fall with Nicole Brewer and musicians from Silkroad Ensemble&quot;<br/><br/>Show Notes:</p><p>3:45 Rohd’s background</p><p>4:50 &apos;Hope is Vital&apos; project in DC area</p><p>7:00 Sojourn Theatre</p><p>10:10 2003 disruption in Oregon legislature</p><p>11:50 &apos;Witness Our Schools&apos; project - role of public education today </p><p>14:30 impact of bringing voices in and building relationships for a different kind of dialogue</p><p>15:15 criteria for success of arts-based work around civic issues </p><p>16:10 One Nation / One Project rooted in post-Great Depression Federal Theater project</p><p>22:15 local community involvement centered on building relationships</p><p>25:30 approach to critics of social-based arts programs</p><p>28:10 Center for Performance and Civil Practice (CPCP) - collective of 9 </p><p>33:45 <em>Undoing Time: Art and Histories of Incarceration</em> exhibition with Arizona State University Art Museum Director Miki Garcia (Episode 79)</p><p>37:45 choreography / dramaturgy for <em>Undoing Time</em></p><p>40:20 questions posed in <em>Undoing Time</em></p><p>42:10 future project for the cards created from <em>Undoing Time </em></p><p>44:45 aspect of justice included in the question he focuses on: who are we responsible for?</p><p>47:30 influence of teachers that led Rohd to his current work</p><p>49:50 legacy </p><p>51:30 Co-Lab for Civic Imagination in Montana</p><p>53:50 ‘Communities of Care’ model</p><p>54:15 Definition of Civic Imagination - like functional democracy</p><p><br/></p><p><br/></p><p><br/></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Send us Fan Mail To learn more, please visit the websites for Jeremy Richter, J.W. Judge, Scarlet Oak Press and The Write Approach podcast. Show Notes: 1:00 Commercial litigation practice with Gordon Rees 4:00 Sustainable marketing and branding with writing law blog  5:00 Speaking and presenting at conferences on legal topics 5:20 Writing legal non-fiction on case management, client development 6:20 2018 ABA published book Building A Better Law Practice, 2019 Self published 2nd and third...]]></itunes:summary>
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    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>To learn more, please visit the websites for <a href='https://www.jeremywrichter.com/now/'>Jeremy Richter</a>, <a href='https://jwjudge.com'>J.W. Judge</a>, <a href='https://scarletoakpress.com'>Scarlet Oak Press </a>and <a href='https://writeapproachpod.com'>The Write Approach podcast</a>.</p><p>Show Notes:</p><p>1:00 Commercial litigation practice with Gordon Rees</p><p>4:00 Sustainable marketing and branding with writing law blog </p><p>5:00 Speaking and presenting at conferences on legal topics</p><p>5:20 Writing legal non-fiction on case management, client development</p><p>6:20 2018 ABA published book <em>Building A Better Law Practice</em>, 2019 Self published 2nd and third books <em>Stop Putting Out Fires</em> and <em>Level Up Your Law Practice: The Ultimate Guide to Being a Successful Lawyer </em></p><p>7:40 August 2020 first novel <em>Vulcan Rising</em></p><p>8:20 Research for family story from father’s side of family </p><p>8:50 Grandfather’s father murdered his estranged wife and himself in 1940 </p><p>10:45 Research for second novel <em>Seeking Sanctuary </em>in<em> The Zauberi Chronicles </em>set in Germany’s Black Forest</p><p>14:30<em> Lawyerpreneur</em> podcast ran from March 2020 to August 2022</p><p>16:50 <em>The Write Approach</em> podcast</p><p>18:45 Co-host Barbara Hinske <br/>20:00 <em>The Write Approach</em> podcast episode 6: Dovetailing Creative Ideas and Smart Business Decisions with Kevin Tumlinson and reference to AI</p><p>20:45 AI changes</p><p>21:50 Chat GPT - rewrite of book blurb</p><p>22:40 Chat GPT-3 and Chat GPT-4</p><p>23:00 AI’s impact on jobs</p><p>24:00 AI for book cover ideas</p><p>24:25 <em>Casual Business with Fairies</em></p><p>25:00 5th novel - Castaway meets a murder mystery</p><p>26:10 Publishing imprint Scarlet Oak Press</p><p>26:50 <em>Do You Draw Pictures </em>by Becki C. Lee (Author), Walter Jaczkowski (Illustrator)</p><p>27:35<em> Should We Shake On It</em> by Becki C. Lee (Author), Walter Jaczkowski (Illustrator)</p><p>27:50 <em>Mommy Needs a Minute</em> by Claire E. Parsons &amp; Naomi L. Hudson</p><p>29:00 Traditional publishing</p><p>31:00 <em>The Write Approach</em> podcast episode 33: From Spicy Romance to Chart-Topping Suspense with Alessandra Torre</p><p>31:25 Evolution of his business goals and intent for future work</p><p>32:50 Pursuit of multiple careers</p><p>34:25 Definition of justice </p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <itunes:title>Glance at Culture - Artist Farook Mohammed on Using Art As A Weapon</itunes:title>
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    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Send us Fan Mail Cover art After World War III, 2020, oil on board, 60 cm x 80 cm, by Farook Mohammed  To learn more, please visit the website for the Afro Arabian Empire. Show Notes: 00:45 Pan-African mission of his artwork that combines the diversity of Africa 2:30 artwork to promote brotherhood and unity for Africa and the world  8:00 artwork tells stories that include a focus on identity and gender 10:00 childhood 12:25 social constructs 15:30 power of art 16:00 legacy he want to lea...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>Cover art <em>After World War III</em>, 2020, oil on board, 60 cm x 80 cm, by Farook Mohammed<br/><br/>To learn more, please visit the website for the <a href='https://www.afroarabianempire.com'>Afro Arabian Empire</a>.</p><p>Show Notes:</p><p>00:45 Pan-African mission of his artwork that combines the diversity of Africa</p><p>2:30 artwork to promote brotherhood and unity for Africa and the world </p><p>8:00 artwork tells stories that include a focus on identity and gender</p><p>10:00 childhood</p><p>12:25 social constructs</p><p>15:30 power of art</p><p>16:00 legacy he want to leave</p><p>18:00 under-population of the world</p><p>18:40 sustainable development </p><p>19:00 examples of his work </p><p>22:30 women</p><p>23:10 <em>Man’s Endeavor</em></p><p>25:00 life outside the earth</p><p>26:30 use of AI </p><p>30:30 regulations on use of technology </p><p>32:15 transparency about use of AI to create art</p><p>33:00 Chat GPT</p><p>34:40 open market </p><p>36:20 used Midjourney for ideas </p><p>38:20 use of AI for bad reasons</p><p>39:15 drone technology</p><p>40:20 Elon Musk</p><p>40:50 <em>After World War III</em></p><p>44:30 claims against S African media houses</p><p>47:30 Afro Arabian Empire </p><p>47:55 group exhibition planned for Mantis Boutique </p><p>48:30 Continental Pan-Africa Art Exhibition </p><p>49:45 view of justice </p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>Cover art <em>After World War III</em>, 2020, oil on board, 60 cm x 80 cm, by Farook Mohammed<br/><br/>To learn more, please visit the website for the <a href='https://www.afroarabianempire.com'>Afro Arabian Empire</a>.</p><p>Show Notes:</p><p>00:45 Pan-African mission of his artwork that combines the diversity of Africa</p><p>2:30 artwork to promote brotherhood and unity for Africa and the world </p><p>8:00 artwork tells stories that include a focus on identity and gender</p><p>10:00 childhood</p><p>12:25 social constructs</p><p>15:30 power of art</p><p>16:00 legacy he want to leave</p><p>18:00 under-population of the world</p><p>18:40 sustainable development </p><p>19:00 examples of his work </p><p>22:30 women</p><p>23:10 <em>Man’s Endeavor</em></p><p>25:00 life outside the earth</p><p>26:30 use of AI </p><p>30:30 regulations on use of technology </p><p>32:15 transparency about use of AI to create art</p><p>33:00 Chat GPT</p><p>34:40 open market </p><p>36:20 used Midjourney for ideas </p><p>38:20 use of AI for bad reasons</p><p>39:15 drone technology</p><p>40:20 Elon Musk</p><p>40:50 <em>After World War III</em></p><p>44:30 claims against S African media houses</p><p>47:30 Afro Arabian Empire </p><p>47:55 group exhibition planned for Mantis Boutique </p><p>48:30 Continental Pan-Africa Art Exhibition </p><p>49:45 view of justice </p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Send us Fan Mail To learn more: 18 April 2023 UK Parliament's Digital, Culture, Media and Sport Committee regarding NFTs and the blockchain,  Emily Gould's correspondence following the hearing on several issues touched on by the Committee; and NFT-related posts on the IAL Blog.  Show Notes: 1:15 Beeple sold ”Everydays — The First 5000 Days” for $69 million 2:45 The Art Basel and UBS Global Art Market Report  3:00 current global art market valued at 67.8 billion 3:15 current art-related N...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>To learn more:<a href='https://sable.godaddy.com/c/573392?id=68.141.1.31adf456c23289082fd71cd14c77abc0'> 18 April 2023 UK Parliament&apos;s Digital, Culture, Media and Sport Committee regarding NFTs and the blockchain</a>, <a href='https://sable.godaddy.com/c/573392?id=68.142.1.1e29e19af389d35b78c3bb2e801154ec'> Emily Gould&apos;s correspondence following the hearing on several issues touched on by the Committee</a>; and <a href='https://ial.uk.com/omega-search/?ID=626f1e99-fc6e-4a69-9a6b-640afef4e1fb&amp;index=posts&amp;limit=25&amp;q=NFT&amp;view=grid'>NFT-related posts on the IAL Blog</a>.<br/><br/>Show Notes:<br/>1:15 Beeple sold ”Everydays — The First 5000 Days” for $69 million<br/>2:45 <a href='https://www.artbasel.com/stories/art-market-report-2021'>The Art Basel and UBS Global Art Market Report </a><br/>3:00 current global art market valued at 67.8 billion<br/>3:15 current art-related NFTs valued at $1.5 billion<br/>3:50 collectibles-related NFTs valued at 11.8 billion<br/>5:00 Parliamentary  committee <br/>5:50 NFT life cycle<br/>6:40 NFT defined<br/>10:50 Distributed Ledger Technology<br/>12:20 Ethereum <br/>14:20 Web 1-3<br/>15:50 Metaverse <br/>16:50 holograms<br/>17:35 stakeholders<br/>22:50 resale royalty right<br/>24:00 NFTs taken off chain will break royalty under smart contract<br/>27:15 <a href='https://www.flipkick.io/about'>Flipkick</a> - NFT authentication service <br/>27:25 <a href='https://artclear.com'>Artclear</a> -  NFT authentication service <br/>28:00  blockchain and provenance<br/>30:40 fractional ownership<br/>31:40 DAOs <br/>32:40 <a href='https://fractional.art'>fractional.art </a><br/>32:55 <a href='https://www.artsect.xyz'>Artsect Gallery</a><br/>34:50 Copyright infringement <br/>37:00 licensing  <br/>37:40 Injective Protocol purchased/burnt Banksy&apos;s Morons (White)<br/>38:50 Daystorm posted NFT of Basquiat for sale along with IP rights<br/>39:30 TM infringement - MetaBirkin NFTs<br/>40:30 commercial risks <br/>41:00 NFT platform liability and disclaimers<br/>42:00 EU copyright directive <br/>42:25 Soleymani v. Nifty Gateway<br/>44:10 UK consumer rights act protection for Soleymani <br/>44:30 illicit activity - theft of NFTs or unauthorized minting of NFTs<br/>44:45 ex-OpenSea employee convicted of fraud/money laundering <br/>45:15 Osbourne v Opensea &amp; Tulip Trading Limited v Bitcoin<br/>45:30 property status of NFTs <br/>46:00 money laundering<br/>46:25 financial risks<br/>48:00 tax &amp; estate planning<br/>48:15 environmental concerns<br/>50:00 <a href='https://documents.manchester.ac.uk/display.aspx?DocID=56087'>Whitworth Gallery’s Ancient of Days </a><br/>51:10 <a href='https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJpCfBQD-gs'>Vacant-To-Visual Program  </a><br/>52:40  Hirst’s <em>Currency</em> project <br/>54:05 Alan Robertshaw<br/>54:30 <em>Currency</em> project results slightly favored physical works over NFT<br/>55:45 <a href='https://heni.com/spins'>Hirst’s <em>The Beautiful Paintings</em> project </a><br/>56:35 international body <br/>57:20 Robershaw <br/>58:40 conflict between smart contracts and natural term licensing<br/>1:00:30 Robertshaw <br/>1:01:10 transaction time<br/>1:02:20 &quot;trustless&quot; system actually requires trust<br/><br/></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>To learn more:<a href='https://sable.godaddy.com/c/573392?id=68.141.1.31adf456c23289082fd71cd14c77abc0'> 18 April 2023 UK Parliament&apos;s Digital, Culture, Media and Sport Committee regarding NFTs and the blockchain</a>, <a href='https://sable.godaddy.com/c/573392?id=68.142.1.1e29e19af389d35b78c3bb2e801154ec'> Emily Gould&apos;s correspondence following the hearing on several issues touched on by the Committee</a>; and <a href='https://ial.uk.com/omega-search/?ID=626f1e99-fc6e-4a69-9a6b-640afef4e1fb&amp;index=posts&amp;limit=25&amp;q=NFT&amp;view=grid'>NFT-related posts on the IAL Blog</a>.<br/><br/>Show Notes:<br/>1:15 Beeple sold ”Everydays — The First 5000 Days” for $69 million<br/>2:45 <a href='https://www.artbasel.com/stories/art-market-report-2021'>The Art Basel and UBS Global Art Market Report </a><br/>3:00 current global art market valued at 67.8 billion<br/>3:15 current art-related NFTs valued at $1.5 billion<br/>3:50 collectibles-related NFTs valued at 11.8 billion<br/>5:00 Parliamentary  committee <br/>5:50 NFT life cycle<br/>6:40 NFT defined<br/>10:50 Distributed Ledger Technology<br/>12:20 Ethereum <br/>14:20 Web 1-3<br/>15:50 Metaverse <br/>16:50 holograms<br/>17:35 stakeholders<br/>22:50 resale royalty right<br/>24:00 NFTs taken off chain will break royalty under smart contract<br/>27:15 <a href='https://www.flipkick.io/about'>Flipkick</a> - NFT authentication service <br/>27:25 <a href='https://artclear.com'>Artclear</a> -  NFT authentication service <br/>28:00  blockchain and provenance<br/>30:40 fractional ownership<br/>31:40 DAOs <br/>32:40 <a href='https://fractional.art'>fractional.art </a><br/>32:55 <a href='https://www.artsect.xyz'>Artsect Gallery</a><br/>34:50 Copyright infringement <br/>37:00 licensing  <br/>37:40 Injective Protocol purchased/burnt Banksy&apos;s Morons (White)<br/>38:50 Daystorm posted NFT of Basquiat for sale along with IP rights<br/>39:30 TM infringement - MetaBirkin NFTs<br/>40:30 commercial risks <br/>41:00 NFT platform liability and disclaimers<br/>42:00 EU copyright directive <br/>42:25 Soleymani v. Nifty Gateway<br/>44:10 UK consumer rights act protection for Soleymani <br/>44:30 illicit activity - theft of NFTs or unauthorized minting of NFTs<br/>44:45 ex-OpenSea employee convicted of fraud/money laundering <br/>45:15 Osbourne v Opensea &amp; Tulip Trading Limited v Bitcoin<br/>45:30 property status of NFTs <br/>46:00 money laundering<br/>46:25 financial risks<br/>48:00 tax &amp; estate planning<br/>48:15 environmental concerns<br/>50:00 <a href='https://documents.manchester.ac.uk/display.aspx?DocID=56087'>Whitworth Gallery’s Ancient of Days </a><br/>51:10 <a href='https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJpCfBQD-gs'>Vacant-To-Visual Program  </a><br/>52:40  Hirst’s <em>Currency</em> project <br/>54:05 Alan Robertshaw<br/>54:30 <em>Currency</em> project results slightly favored physical works over NFT<br/>55:45 <a href='https://heni.com/spins'>Hirst’s <em>The Beautiful Paintings</em> project </a><br/>56:35 international body <br/>57:20 Robershaw <br/>58:40 conflict between smart contracts and natural term licensing<br/>1:00:30 Robertshaw <br/>1:01:10 transaction time<br/>1:02:20 &quot;trustless&quot; system actually requires trust<br/><br/></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Send us Fan Mail To learn more, please visit the websites for the Max Stern Restitution Project, the HEAR Act, the Second Circuit's decision in Zuckerman v. The Metropolitan Museum of Art, the Zurückgeben Foundation and Almost Lost: the Heinemann Legacy (Before, During, and After the Holocaust).  Show Notes: 1:30 Max Stern Art Restitution Project  2:30 Dr. Max Stern 5:00 Stern’s restitution efforts 8:00 Cancellation of The Max Stern Düsseldorf to Montreal Art Exhibition 9:50 Sales under ...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>To learn more, please visit the websites for the <a href='https://www.concordia.ca/arts/max-stern/context.html'>Max Stern Restitution Project</a>, <a href='https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/house-bill/6130/text'>the HEAR Act, </a><a href='https://www.lootedart.com/web_images/pdf2019/18-634_opn.pdf'>the Second Circuit&apos;s decision in Zuckerman v. The Metropolitan Museum of Art</a>, <a href='https://www.stiftung-zurueckgeben.de/?lang=en'>the Zurückgeben Foundation</a> and <a href='https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Emrc4jCN9_U'>Almost Lost: the Heinemann Legacy (Before, During, and After the Holocaust)</a>.<br/><br/>Show Notes:<br/>1:30 Max Stern Art Restitution Project <br/>2:30 Dr. Max Stern<br/>5:00 Stern’s restitution efforts<br/>8:00 Cancellation of The Max Stern Düsseldorf to Montreal Art Exhibition<br/>9:50 Sales under duress<br/>10:15 Auctions at cut-rate prices as an encouragement to the German people<br/>13:15 Rug in the office of Angela Merkel <br/>14:20 Russian exhibition of looted German objects<br/>16:00 German Lost Art Foundation <br/>17:00 Mosse Art Research Initiative - partly funded by German Lost Art Foundation<br/>18:10 Thieves able to give good title under German law<br/>20:40 Hilde Schramm - German politician for Alliance 90/The Greens, daughter of  German architect/Nazi Party official Albert Speer<br/>21:20 The Zurückgeben Foundation - organization started by Schramm<br/>21:45 City of Lüneburg, Germany honored Jewish Heinemann family whose objects were looted <br/>22:45 Heinemann family donated looted objects back to the Lüneburg Museum<br/>23:20 Holocaust Expropriation Art Recovery (HEAR) Act <br/>24:40 Second Circuit decision in Zuckerman v. The Metropolitan Museum of Art<br/>25:00 Doctrine of Laches<br/>27:40 New focus of research on difficulty of being honest about genocide restitution<br/>28:30 Theft of works from Ukrainian museums<br/>33:20 Dehumanization as part of genocide<br/>34:00 Denial of wrongs committed in genocide<br/>35:00 Russia’s prior theft of Ukrainian cultural heritage<br/>35:20 World’s tolerance / denial of genocide<br/>36:20 Need for empathy<br/>36:30 What is a bystander<br/>36:50 Spain’s policy as an allegedly neutral party during WWII<br/>38:00 Concept of justice<br/>38:45 Andrew Smith - The Met’s reasoning <br/>40:45 British Museum’s policy that Elgin Marbles are part of UK heritage<br/>42:40 HEAR Act’s legislative intent ignored by the Court<br/>43:45 Picasso’s The Actor was a gift to the Met<br/>44:20 Vienna case of  painting looted from Alma Mahler (Edvard Munch&apos;s &quot;Summer Night at the Beach&quot;) restituted in 2001 by Belvedere Museum to Mahler&apos;s granddaughter, Marina<br/>46:30 Alan Robertshaw - neutral area that serviced U boats<br/>47:20 Alan Robertshaw - 1995 abolishment of UK’s market overt - English legal concept from mediaeval times that allowed subsequent ownership of stolen goods<br/><br/><br/></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>To learn more, please visit the websites for the <a href='https://www.concordia.ca/arts/max-stern/context.html'>Max Stern Restitution Project</a>, <a href='https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/house-bill/6130/text'>the HEAR Act, </a><a href='https://www.lootedart.com/web_images/pdf2019/18-634_opn.pdf'>the Second Circuit&apos;s decision in Zuckerman v. The Metropolitan Museum of Art</a>, <a href='https://www.stiftung-zurueckgeben.de/?lang=en'>the Zurückgeben Foundation</a> and <a href='https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Emrc4jCN9_U'>Almost Lost: the Heinemann Legacy (Before, During, and After the Holocaust)</a>.<br/><br/>Show Notes:<br/>1:30 Max Stern Art Restitution Project <br/>2:30 Dr. Max Stern<br/>5:00 Stern’s restitution efforts<br/>8:00 Cancellation of The Max Stern Düsseldorf to Montreal Art Exhibition<br/>9:50 Sales under duress<br/>10:15 Auctions at cut-rate prices as an encouragement to the German people<br/>13:15 Rug in the office of Angela Merkel <br/>14:20 Russian exhibition of looted German objects<br/>16:00 German Lost Art Foundation <br/>17:00 Mosse Art Research Initiative - partly funded by German Lost Art Foundation<br/>18:10 Thieves able to give good title under German law<br/>20:40 Hilde Schramm - German politician for Alliance 90/The Greens, daughter of  German architect/Nazi Party official Albert Speer<br/>21:20 The Zurückgeben Foundation - organization started by Schramm<br/>21:45 City of Lüneburg, Germany honored Jewish Heinemann family whose objects were looted <br/>22:45 Heinemann family donated looted objects back to the Lüneburg Museum<br/>23:20 Holocaust Expropriation Art Recovery (HEAR) Act <br/>24:40 Second Circuit decision in Zuckerman v. The Metropolitan Museum of Art<br/>25:00 Doctrine of Laches<br/>27:40 New focus of research on difficulty of being honest about genocide restitution<br/>28:30 Theft of works from Ukrainian museums<br/>33:20 Dehumanization as part of genocide<br/>34:00 Denial of wrongs committed in genocide<br/>35:00 Russia’s prior theft of Ukrainian cultural heritage<br/>35:20 World’s tolerance / denial of genocide<br/>36:20 Need for empathy<br/>36:30 What is a bystander<br/>36:50 Spain’s policy as an allegedly neutral party during WWII<br/>38:00 Concept of justice<br/>38:45 Andrew Smith - The Met’s reasoning <br/>40:45 British Museum’s policy that Elgin Marbles are part of UK heritage<br/>42:40 HEAR Act’s legislative intent ignored by the Court<br/>43:45 Picasso’s The Actor was a gift to the Met<br/>44:20 Vienna case of  painting looted from Alma Mahler (Edvard Munch&apos;s &quot;Summer Night at the Beach&quot;) restituted in 2001 by Belvedere Museum to Mahler&apos;s granddaughter, Marina<br/>46:30 Alan Robertshaw - neutral area that serviced U boats<br/>47:20 Alan Robertshaw - 1995 abolishment of UK’s market overt - English legal concept from mediaeval times that allowed subsequent ownership of stolen goods<br/><br/><br/></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Send us Fan Mail Cover image by Stephen Tromans: Climate Innocence, 1957, oil on board, 20x24 inches  To view Stephen Tromans' work, please visit Mr. Tromans' website and Instagram as well as Ely Cathedral's feature of his Golgotha series, the Cambridge Drawing Society's discussion of his work and the Gallery Holt.  Show Notes: 1:30 Troman’s choice to go into law, specifically environmental law 2:45 Lord Denning 3:30 Troman’s work as a painter 4:30 Diploma in oil painting 5:00 Influenced...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>Cover image by Stephen Tromans: <em>Climate Innocence, 1957</em>, oil on board, 20x24 inches<br/><br/>To view Stephen Tromans&apos; work, please visit <a href='https://www.stlaw.co.uk'>Mr. Tromans&apos; website</a> and <a href='http://www.instagram.com/@stephentromansart.'>Instagram</a> as well as <a href='https://www.elycathedral.org/events/golgotha-exhibition'>Ely Cathedral&apos;s feature of his <em>Golgotha</em> series</a>, <a href='https://www.cambridgedrawingsociety.org/2022/11/15/best-of-british-at-the-the-gallery-holt/'>the Cambridge Drawing Society&apos;s discussion of his work</a> and <a href='https://thegalleryholt.com/product/the-self-made-man/'>the Gallery Holt</a>.<br/><br/>Show Notes:<br/>1:30 Troman’s choice to go into law, specifically environmental law<br/>2:45 Lord Denning<br/>3:30 Troman’s work as a painter<br/>4:30 Diploma in oil painting<br/>5:00 Influenced by Turner, Caravaggio, Goya<br/>5:30 Scotland’s Joan Eardley<br/>5:40 Royal Academician Fred Cuming<br/>6:30 mixed media and collage<br/>6:50 Hong Kong urbanscapes<br/>9:20 Golgotha series<br/>12:00 Ely Cathedral<br/>15:00 feedback from Golgotha series<br/>15:45 Ukrainian children and their toys as a focus in Golgotha series<br/>18:00 future cathedral venues for Golgotha series<br/>18:45 current work<br/>20:20 environmentally-related art<br/>22:00 Climate Innocence, 1957 - acceptance of pollution<br/>23:00 Troman’s process<br/>24:00 art’s function to speak to social issues<br/>26:00 compliments between legal and creative work<br/>28:50 legacy<br/>31:30 definition of justice <br/>34:15 how Troman’s artwork speaks to justice<br/>35:15 the power of Picasso’s Guernica</p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>Cover image by Stephen Tromans: <em>Climate Innocence, 1957</em>, oil on board, 20x24 inches<br/><br/>To view Stephen Tromans&apos; work, please visit <a href='https://www.stlaw.co.uk'>Mr. Tromans&apos; website</a> and <a href='http://www.instagram.com/@stephentromansart.'>Instagram</a> as well as <a href='https://www.elycathedral.org/events/golgotha-exhibition'>Ely Cathedral&apos;s feature of his <em>Golgotha</em> series</a>, <a href='https://www.cambridgedrawingsociety.org/2022/11/15/best-of-british-at-the-the-gallery-holt/'>the Cambridge Drawing Society&apos;s discussion of his work</a> and <a href='https://thegalleryholt.com/product/the-self-made-man/'>the Gallery Holt</a>.<br/><br/>Show Notes:<br/>1:30 Troman’s choice to go into law, specifically environmental law<br/>2:45 Lord Denning<br/>3:30 Troman’s work as a painter<br/>4:30 Diploma in oil painting<br/>5:00 Influenced by Turner, Caravaggio, Goya<br/>5:30 Scotland’s Joan Eardley<br/>5:40 Royal Academician Fred Cuming<br/>6:30 mixed media and collage<br/>6:50 Hong Kong urbanscapes<br/>9:20 Golgotha series<br/>12:00 Ely Cathedral<br/>15:00 feedback from Golgotha series<br/>15:45 Ukrainian children and their toys as a focus in Golgotha series<br/>18:00 future cathedral venues for Golgotha series<br/>18:45 current work<br/>20:20 environmentally-related art<br/>22:00 Climate Innocence, 1957 - acceptance of pollution<br/>23:00 Troman’s process<br/>24:00 art’s function to speak to social issues<br/>26:00 compliments between legal and creative work<br/>28:50 legacy<br/>31:30 definition of justice <br/>34:15 how Troman’s artwork speaks to justice<br/>35:15 the power of Picasso’s Guernica</p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Send us Fan Mail To learn more, please visit the sites for International Child Art Foundation, World Children's Festival and the International Child Arts Olympiad (with coming plans for the Paris 2024 Olympics ).  Show Notes: 2:30 children’s creativity  3:30 empathy needed due to moral neutrality of creativity  4:30 adverse childhood experiences  5:20 transgenerational transmission of trauma and hatred 6:00  the International Child Art Foundation’s Arts Olympiad and World ...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>To learn more, please visit the sites for<a href='https://www.icaf.org'> International Child Art Foundation</a>, <a href='https://worldchildrensfestival.org'>World Children&apos;s Festival</a> and <a href='https://www.icaf.org/mission/arts-olympiad'>the International Child Arts Olympiad (with coming plans for the Paris 2024 Olympics )</a>.<br/><br/>Show Notes:<br/>2:30 children’s creativity </p><p>3:30 empathy needed due to moral neutrality of creativity </p><p>4:30 adverse childhood experiences </p><p>5:20 transgenerational transmission of trauma and hatred</p><p>6:00  the International Child Art Foundation’s Arts Olympiad and World Children&apos;s Festival</p><p>8:40 creative-empaths</p><p>9:30 Arts Olympiad winners at National Mall in Washington, DC for World Children&apos;s Festival</p><p>11:50 overview of Ishaq’s background and work at World Bank</p><p>13:10 why adult’s imagination dries up</p><p>13:30 the fourth grade slump</p><p>15:40 2013 book “The Creativity Revolution: Reinvent Your Creative Self to Shape the Future and Prosper”</p><p>17:30 1 of 5 types of creators: Native </p><p>17:50 2 of 5 types of creators: Nomad</p><p>18:20 3 of 5 types of creators: Savant</p><p>18:55 4 of 5 types of creators: Empathic </p><p>19:15 5 of 5 types of creators: Spiritual</p><p>20:20 Book mixes history, economics and neuroscience</p><p>22:30 collaborated with National Institute of Health on its ABCD Study</p><p>24:00 MRI studies show 7-12 year olds are age group most prone to empathy</p><p>26:20 Healings Art Program began after Asian tsunami </p><p>29:10 Peace Through Art Program began after 9/11 attacks</p><p>31:10 ICAF’s collaboration on treasure hunt book “Xavier Marx and the Missing Masterpieces”</p><p>32:10 UN General Assembly’s efforts to revive human security campaign</p><p>35:40 ICAF has had approximately 5 million children participated in Arts Olympiad to date</p><p>38:30 American Academy of Arts and Sciences’s 2021 report on the attributes, values and skills that come from arts education, including social and emotional development, school engagement and civic and social participation</p><p>39:15 children from certain countries can’t participate, e.g., North Korea </p><p>40:40 participants from African countries</p><p>41:10 blind musical group from Zimbabwe </p><p>41:30 indigenous from New Zealand playing the a traditional dance of that country&apos;s Māori people, the haka </p><p>42:40 ICAF&apos;s current work and structured lesson plans</p><p>43:45 fall semester 2023 for next program</p><p>44:30 summer 2024 for next festival</p><p>46:30 scholarships</p><p>47:00 participants from Romania</p><p>48:30 social function of art</p><p>50:10 9/11 began his thought about moral neutrality of creativity </p><p>53:00 upcoming festival project for partipants to create children’s earth flag for NASA’s first human mission to Mars</p><p>54:15 UN’s human securities artworks </p><p>56:30 new mothers as supporters</p><p>57:00 ChildArt Magazine</p><p>58:00 magazine’s theme on the power of words, mindfulness, Metaverse, animal Art</p><p>59:20 Legacy </p><p>1:00:00 pre-WWII, Olympics gave awards for the arts</p><p>1:00:50 Paris 2024 Olympics and LA 2028 Olympics</p><p>1:01:45 definition of justice</p><p><br/></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>To learn more, please visit the sites for<a href='https://www.icaf.org'> International Child Art Foundation</a>, <a href='https://worldchildrensfestival.org'>World Children&apos;s Festival</a> and <a href='https://www.icaf.org/mission/arts-olympiad'>the International Child Arts Olympiad (with coming plans for the Paris 2024 Olympics )</a>.<br/><br/>Show Notes:<br/>2:30 children’s creativity </p><p>3:30 empathy needed due to moral neutrality of creativity </p><p>4:30 adverse childhood experiences </p><p>5:20 transgenerational transmission of trauma and hatred</p><p>6:00  the International Child Art Foundation’s Arts Olympiad and World Children&apos;s Festival</p><p>8:40 creative-empaths</p><p>9:30 Arts Olympiad winners at National Mall in Washington, DC for World Children&apos;s Festival</p><p>11:50 overview of Ishaq’s background and work at World Bank</p><p>13:10 why adult’s imagination dries up</p><p>13:30 the fourth grade slump</p><p>15:40 2013 book “The Creativity Revolution: Reinvent Your Creative Self to Shape the Future and Prosper”</p><p>17:30 1 of 5 types of creators: Native </p><p>17:50 2 of 5 types of creators: Nomad</p><p>18:20 3 of 5 types of creators: Savant</p><p>18:55 4 of 5 types of creators: Empathic </p><p>19:15 5 of 5 types of creators: Spiritual</p><p>20:20 Book mixes history, economics and neuroscience</p><p>22:30 collaborated with National Institute of Health on its ABCD Study</p><p>24:00 MRI studies show 7-12 year olds are age group most prone to empathy</p><p>26:20 Healings Art Program began after Asian tsunami </p><p>29:10 Peace Through Art Program began after 9/11 attacks</p><p>31:10 ICAF’s collaboration on treasure hunt book “Xavier Marx and the Missing Masterpieces”</p><p>32:10 UN General Assembly’s efforts to revive human security campaign</p><p>35:40 ICAF has had approximately 5 million children participated in Arts Olympiad to date</p><p>38:30 American Academy of Arts and Sciences’s 2021 report on the attributes, values and skills that come from arts education, including social and emotional development, school engagement and civic and social participation</p><p>39:15 children from certain countries can’t participate, e.g., North Korea </p><p>40:40 participants from African countries</p><p>41:10 blind musical group from Zimbabwe </p><p>41:30 indigenous from New Zealand playing the a traditional dance of that country&apos;s Māori people, the haka </p><p>42:40 ICAF&apos;s current work and structured lesson plans</p><p>43:45 fall semester 2023 for next program</p><p>44:30 summer 2024 for next festival</p><p>46:30 scholarships</p><p>47:00 participants from Romania</p><p>48:30 social function of art</p><p>50:10 9/11 began his thought about moral neutrality of creativity </p><p>53:00 upcoming festival project for partipants to create children’s earth flag for NASA’s first human mission to Mars</p><p>54:15 UN’s human securities artworks </p><p>56:30 new mothers as supporters</p><p>57:00 ChildArt Magazine</p><p>58:00 magazine’s theme on the power of words, mindfulness, Metaverse, animal Art</p><p>59:20 Legacy </p><p>1:00:00 pre-WWII, Olympics gave awards for the arts</p><p>1:00:50 Paris 2024 Olympics and LA 2028 Olympics</p><p>1:01:45 definition of justice</p><p><br/></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>Please visit the following links to learn more: <br/><a href='https://www.qmul.ac.uk/postgraduate/taught/coursefinder/courses/art-business-and-law-llm/'>Queen Mary’s LLM in Art, Business and Law</a> and the <a href='https://ial.uk.com/'>Institute of Art and Law</a>. <br/><br/>Show Notes:</p><p>1:00 Stephanie Drawdy - introduction</p><p>1:20 Emily Gould - overview of the Institute of Art and Law (IAL)</p><p>5:20 Gould’s background</p><p>7:35 careers in art law practice</p><p>9:35 Janan Foster - background and experience with Art, Business and Law LLM</p><p>11:35 Chiara Gallo - background and experience with Art, Business and Law LLM</p><p>15:40 Jane (Chang Yue) Liu - experience with Siena program and internship with IAL</p><p>18:40 Chelsea Conyers - experience with Siena program and internship with IAL</p><p>20:35 Gina McKlveen - experience as an artist, law student and now lawyer</p><p>27:40 Gould on IAL blog</p><p>28:40 Alan Robertshaw</p><p>29:10 McKlveen’s beginning interest in art and law</p><p>30:15 Jerry Alonzo’s experience in the law and arts</p><p>34:10 Charles Sabba’s experience in the military, law enforcement and the arts</p><p>43:05 Nnebundo Obi</p><p>44:45 Charles Sabba</p><p>45:40 Emily Gould re: interdisciplinary nature of art law cases</p><p>46:35 Alan Robertshaw’s law practice</p><p><br/></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Send us Fan Mail "Exposed" musical composition by Toulme, Copyright 2023.  Cover art: excerpt from Consequence, oil on panel, Stephanie Drawdy, copyright 2022.  The following are the featured episode excerpts from Warfare of Art and Law:  Episode 38: Glance at Culture - Defiant Requiem: Maestro Murry Sidlin on Terezín Concentration Camp, Verdi's Requiem, the Arts &amp; Social Justice  Episode 27: Nazi Plundered Art: Nathan Diament On the Legacy of Artist J.D. Kirszenbaum (1900-1954) Please sh...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>&quot;Exposed&quot; musical composition by <a href='https://www.toulmemusic.com'>Toulme</a>, Copyright 2023.<br/><br/>Cover art: excerpt from <em>Consequence</em>, oil on panel, Stephanie Drawdy, copyright 2022.<br/><br/>The following are the featured episode excerpts from <em>Warfare of Art and Law:</em><br/><br/>Episode 38: <b>Glance at Culture - Defiant Requiem: Maestro Murry Sidlin on Terezín Concentration Camp, Verdi&apos;s Requiem, the Arts &amp; Social Justice</b><br/><br/>Episode 27: <b>Nazi Plundered Art: Nathan Diament On the Legacy of Artist J.D. Kirszenbaum (1900-1954)</b></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>&quot;Exposed&quot; musical composition by <a href='https://www.toulmemusic.com'>Toulme</a>, Copyright 2023.<br/><br/>Cover art: excerpt from <em>Consequence</em>, oil on panel, Stephanie Drawdy, copyright 2022.<br/><br/>The following are the featured episode excerpts from <em>Warfare of Art and Law:</em><br/><br/>Episode 38: <b>Glance at Culture - Defiant Requiem: Maestro Murry Sidlin on Terezín Concentration Camp, Verdi&apos;s Requiem, the Arts &amp; Social Justice</b><br/><br/>Episode 27: <b>Nazi Plundered Art: Nathan Diament On the Legacy of Artist J.D. Kirszenbaum (1900-1954)</b></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <itunes:title>Glance at Culture - Ukraine War Museum&#39;s Milena Chorna Discusses the &quot;Ukraine. Crucifix&quot; Project, Artifacts of War and Russian Imperialism </itunes:title>
    <title>Glance at Culture - Ukraine War Museum&#39;s Milena Chorna Discusses the &quot;Ukraine. Crucifix&quot; Project, Artifacts of War and Russian Imperialism </title>
    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Send us Fan Mail To learn more, please visit the website for Ukraine's War Museum.  Cover photo by Viktor Byshev of the Church of the Nativity of the Holy Virgin in Peremoha that Russians attacked and damaged. Left in the photo is Dr. Yurii Savchuk and right is the clergyman from the Church, Oleksandr Yarmolchyk.   Show Notes:  1:30 National Museum of the History of Ukraine in the Second World War  2:00 War Museum’s exhibition on 24 February 2022 2:20 “Forever Free Ukraine” curated ...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>To learn more, please visit <a href='https://warmuseum.kyiv.ua/index_eng.php'>the website for Ukraine&apos;s War Museum</a>.<br/><br/>Cover photo by Viktor Byshev of <a href='https://risu.ua/rashisti-obstrilyali-hram-yakij-ne-ruhali-nacisti_n128037'>the Church of the Nativity of the Holy Virgin in Peremoha</a> that Russians attacked and damaged. Left in the photo is Dr. Yurii Savchuk and right is the clergyman from the Church, Oleksandr Yarmolchyk. <br/><br/>Show Notes:<br/><br/>1:30 National Museum of the History of Ukraine in the Second World War <br/>2:00 War Museum’s exhibition on 24 February 2022<br/>2:20 “Forever Free Ukraine” curated by Director General Dr. Yurii Savchuk <br/>4:00 War Museum’s removal of exhibitions on 24 February 2022<br/>5:20 “Forever Free Ukraine” exhibition now in Lithuania<br/>6:00 Ukrainian museum workers are mostly women<br/>6:25 Swedish photographer of Polish descent Andrzej Markiewicz volunteered to document areas that were de-occupied <br/>7:00 33 field trips <br/>8:00 Latvia, Estonia and Lithuania<br/>9:10 New York exhibition “Ukraine. Crucifix. Tribunal” <br/>9:15 Latvia exhibition “Ukraine. Crucifix. 360” <br/>9:35  message from exhibition “there always should come light”<br/>10:00 Dr. Yurii Savchuk <br/>11:00 Designer/Artist Anton Logov<br/>11:45 symbols from the Soviet Union<br/>12:20 military helmets - star and “Lenin” <br/>12:50 insurgent army 1960s<br/>13:15 boots symbol <br/>13:50 star symbol  <br/>20:15 motivators for Russians to annihilate Ukrainian cultural heritage <br/>20:20 18th Century Ukrainian philosopher Hryhorii (Gregory) Skovoroda Museum<br/>21:15 Russians targeting gold<br/>21:30 Kyiv Pechersk Lavra, an 11th-century Orthodox cave monastery complex<br/>22:15 Ukrainian established circa 11th C <br/>23:15 Maria Prymachenko-The Ivankiv Historical and Local History Museum<br/>24:25 Ukraine Museum Crisis Center <br/>24:25  Ukraine Museum Crisis Center while working for the State Agency of Arts and Artistic Education focusing on developing artistic education <br/>25:00  Luhansk Museum of Local Lore Director Olesya Milovanova <br/>31:15: collaboration <br/>32:15 dealings with Russian museums<br/>35:50 “Children…” memorial<br/>36:50 “Tree of Life”<br/>37:20 Ukrainian Museum of Canada<br/>38:00 symbol of doors <br/>38:45 “United for Justice” exhibition <br/>39:20 New York exhibition <br/>39:45 door in exhibition is from  basement in Yahidne <br/>42:00 Crucifixion exhibition includes basement bomb shelter <br/>45:00 “United for Justice” exhibition<br/>45:30 justice <br/>47:40 working trip to Holland in March 2023 <br/>49:15 Russian civilians are the invaders<br/>49:30 Hermitage director who justifies what’s going on should at least be punished by opinions of his colleagues <br/>49:45 Russia in ICOM and UN <br/>50:20 “If Russian Empire collapses - maybe that would be some kind of justice”<br/>51:00 artefact from Kherson after it was de-occupied on November 11<br/>51:30 flag <br/>52:50 feedback of civilians about exhibition <br/>54:45 feedback of soldiers about exhibition<br/>55:40 commemoration days twice per month<br/>56:50 mission<br/>57:45 message to those outside Ukraine</p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>To learn more, please visit <a href='https://warmuseum.kyiv.ua/index_eng.php'>the website for Ukraine&apos;s War Museum</a>.<br/><br/>Cover photo by Viktor Byshev of <a href='https://risu.ua/rashisti-obstrilyali-hram-yakij-ne-ruhali-nacisti_n128037'>the Church of the Nativity of the Holy Virgin in Peremoha</a> that Russians attacked and damaged. Left in the photo is Dr. Yurii Savchuk and right is the clergyman from the Church, Oleksandr Yarmolchyk. <br/><br/>Show Notes:<br/><br/>1:30 National Museum of the History of Ukraine in the Second World War <br/>2:00 War Museum’s exhibition on 24 February 2022<br/>2:20 “Forever Free Ukraine” curated by Director General Dr. Yurii Savchuk <br/>4:00 War Museum’s removal of exhibitions on 24 February 2022<br/>5:20 “Forever Free Ukraine” exhibition now in Lithuania<br/>6:00 Ukrainian museum workers are mostly women<br/>6:25 Swedish photographer of Polish descent Andrzej Markiewicz volunteered to document areas that were de-occupied <br/>7:00 33 field trips <br/>8:00 Latvia, Estonia and Lithuania<br/>9:10 New York exhibition “Ukraine. Crucifix. Tribunal” <br/>9:15 Latvia exhibition “Ukraine. Crucifix. 360” <br/>9:35  message from exhibition “there always should come light”<br/>10:00 Dr. Yurii Savchuk <br/>11:00 Designer/Artist Anton Logov<br/>11:45 symbols from the Soviet Union<br/>12:20 military helmets - star and “Lenin” <br/>12:50 insurgent army 1960s<br/>13:15 boots symbol <br/>13:50 star symbol  <br/>20:15 motivators for Russians to annihilate Ukrainian cultural heritage <br/>20:20 18th Century Ukrainian philosopher Hryhorii (Gregory) Skovoroda Museum<br/>21:15 Russians targeting gold<br/>21:30 Kyiv Pechersk Lavra, an 11th-century Orthodox cave monastery complex<br/>22:15 Ukrainian established circa 11th C <br/>23:15 Maria Prymachenko-The Ivankiv Historical and Local History Museum<br/>24:25 Ukraine Museum Crisis Center <br/>24:25  Ukraine Museum Crisis Center while working for the State Agency of Arts and Artistic Education focusing on developing artistic education <br/>25:00  Luhansk Museum of Local Lore Director Olesya Milovanova <br/>31:15: collaboration <br/>32:15 dealings with Russian museums<br/>35:50 “Children…” memorial<br/>36:50 “Tree of Life”<br/>37:20 Ukrainian Museum of Canada<br/>38:00 symbol of doors <br/>38:45 “United for Justice” exhibition <br/>39:20 New York exhibition <br/>39:45 door in exhibition is from  basement in Yahidne <br/>42:00 Crucifixion exhibition includes basement bomb shelter <br/>45:00 “United for Justice” exhibition<br/>45:30 justice <br/>47:40 working trip to Holland in March 2023 <br/>49:15 Russian civilians are the invaders<br/>49:30 Hermitage director who justifies what’s going on should at least be punished by opinions of his colleagues <br/>49:45 Russia in ICOM and UN <br/>50:20 “If Russian Empire collapses - maybe that would be some kind of justice”<br/>51:00 artefact from Kherson after it was de-occupied on November 11<br/>51:30 flag <br/>52:50 feedback of civilians about exhibition <br/>54:45 feedback of soldiers about exhibition<br/>55:40 commemoration days twice per month<br/>56:50 mission<br/>57:45 message to those outside Ukraine</p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <itunes:title>Dr. Randall Horton on the Collaborative Radical Reversal Project, Mass Incarceration, Reformation and Justice </itunes:title>
    <title>Dr. Randall Horton on the Collaborative Radical Reversal Project, Mass Incarceration, Reformation and Justice </title>
    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Send us Fan Mail Cover Image by Diane Allford   To learn more, please visit the sites for Randall Horton and Radical Reversal.  Show Notes: 00:00 Dr. Randall Horton’s work in poetry 02:00 Dr. Horton’s work as poet/writer, professor of English at University of New Haven, system-impacted  03:10 Chicago State’s MFA program 03:20 Definition of Place by Horton 03:30 PhD in Poetry and Poetics from SUNY Albany 04:20 poetry avant-garde band Heros of Gang Leaders 05:00 Creative Capital proposal t...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>Cover Image by Diane Allford <br/><br/>To learn more, please visit the sites for <a href='https://www.randallhorton.com'>Randall Horton</a> and <a href='https://www.radical-reversal.com'>Radical Reversal</a>.<br/><br/>Show Notes:</p><p>00:00 Dr. Randall Horton’s work in poetry</p><p>02:00 Dr. Horton’s work as poet/writer, professor of English at University of New Haven, system-impacted </p><p>03:10 Chicago State’s MFA program</p><p>03:20 <em>Definition of Place</em> by Horton</p><p>03:30 PhD in Poetry and Poetics from SUNY Albany</p><p>04:20 poetry avant-garde band Heros of Gang Leaders</p><p>05:00 Creative Capital proposal to put creative space in the carceral state</p><p>07:00 Suffolk County House of Corrections in Boston, Massachusetts</p><p>07:30 <em>Radical Reversal</em> </p><p>08:30 pilot program in Burmingham, AL - Jefferson County Youth Detention Center </p><p>8:55 Minnesota Prison Writers Workshop with Jennifer Bowen-Hicks</p><p>9:00 Boston’s Writers Without Margins with Cheryl Buchanan </p><p>10:15 Jefferson County Youth Detention Center Director Monique Greer</p><p>17:20 workshops in Jefferson County Youth Detention Center</p><p>18:50  Little K - what if you don’t know no beautiful<br/>21:00 Little E</p><p>22:10 <em>Ain’t No Love In the Streets </em></p><p>26:20 art as a guide </p><p>28:00 partnering with Greer to continue pilot program</p><p>31:30 Radical Reversal’s space to stay in place going forward</p><p>32:30 Minnesota Department of Correction’s unit to have four recording booths</p><p>34:00 Radical Reading Series</p><p>34:30 Artist Masego</p><p>36:50 follow up work with individuals in the facility </p><p>37:00 poem entitled <em>Imagine</em> </p><p>41:00 collaboration with facility staff</p><p>42:00 <em>The Road Less Traveled</em></p><p>46:30 poem entitled<em> To Live and Die in Burmingham, Alabama</em> published in London</p><p>49:00  inspired by Nietzsche’s 1887 <em>On the Genealogy of Morality </em></p><p>49:40 going after humanity and a moral compass</p><p>51:00 legacy created with his work and Radical Reversal <br/><br/><br/></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>Cover Image by Diane Allford <br/><br/>To learn more, please visit the sites for <a href='https://www.randallhorton.com'>Randall Horton</a> and <a href='https://www.radical-reversal.com'>Radical Reversal</a>.<br/><br/>Show Notes:</p><p>00:00 Dr. Randall Horton’s work in poetry</p><p>02:00 Dr. Horton’s work as poet/writer, professor of English at University of New Haven, system-impacted </p><p>03:10 Chicago State’s MFA program</p><p>03:20 <em>Definition of Place</em> by Horton</p><p>03:30 PhD in Poetry and Poetics from SUNY Albany</p><p>04:20 poetry avant-garde band Heros of Gang Leaders</p><p>05:00 Creative Capital proposal to put creative space in the carceral state</p><p>07:00 Suffolk County House of Corrections in Boston, Massachusetts</p><p>07:30 <em>Radical Reversal</em> </p><p>08:30 pilot program in Burmingham, AL - Jefferson County Youth Detention Center </p><p>8:55 Minnesota Prison Writers Workshop with Jennifer Bowen-Hicks</p><p>9:00 Boston’s Writers Without Margins with Cheryl Buchanan </p><p>10:15 Jefferson County Youth Detention Center Director Monique Greer</p><p>17:20 workshops in Jefferson County Youth Detention Center</p><p>18:50  Little K - what if you don’t know no beautiful<br/>21:00 Little E</p><p>22:10 <em>Ain’t No Love In the Streets </em></p><p>26:20 art as a guide </p><p>28:00 partnering with Greer to continue pilot program</p><p>31:30 Radical Reversal’s space to stay in place going forward</p><p>32:30 Minnesota Department of Correction’s unit to have four recording booths</p><p>34:00 Radical Reading Series</p><p>34:30 Artist Masego</p><p>36:50 follow up work with individuals in the facility </p><p>37:00 poem entitled <em>Imagine</em> </p><p>41:00 collaboration with facility staff</p><p>42:00 <em>The Road Less Traveled</em></p><p>46:30 poem entitled<em> To Live and Die in Burmingham, Alabama</em> published in London</p><p>49:00  inspired by Nietzsche’s 1887 <em>On the Genealogy of Morality </em></p><p>49:40 going after humanity and a moral compass</p><p>51:00 legacy created with his work and Radical Reversal <br/><br/><br/></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Send us Fan Mail To learn more and view their work, please visit the sites for Stefania Salles Bruins, Nnebundo Obi and Geoffrey Stein.  0:00 Artist and attorney Geoff Stein describing his collage work 2:00 Artist and attorney Stefania Salles Bruins describes genesis of theme for “Portraits As Still Lives” group show 3:45 Stephanie Drawdy on her work for the group show 5:00 Stein on his perspective on the head as a subject  6:00 Stein on his work in collage 9:30 Salles Bruins on symbolis...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>To learn more and view their work, please visit the sites for <a href='https://www.stefaniasallesbruins.com'>Stefania Salles Bruins</a>, <a href='https://www.instagram.com/nnebundoa.obi/'>Nnebundo Obi </a>and <a href='https://www.geoffreystein.com'>Geoffrey Stein</a>.<br/><br/>0:00 Artist and attorney Geoff Stein describing his collage work</p><p>2:00 Artist and attorney Stefania Salles Bruins describes genesis of theme for “Portraits As Still Lives” group show</p><p>3:45 Stephanie Drawdy on her work for the group show</p><p>5:00 Stein on his perspective on the head as a subject </p><p>6:00 Stein on his work in collage</p><p>9:30 Salles Bruins on symbolism in her work</p><p>11:40 Stein on letting work speak for itself</p><p>12:25 Stein on how his work during Iraq war was seen as painting of hostage</p><p>13:40 Salles Bruins’ experience with instructors at New York Academy of Art</p><p>14:30 Salomé with Head of John the Baptist inspiration for Salles Bruins</p><p>16:00 Salles Bruins’ self-portrait mimics Girl With Pearl Earring</p><p>18:00 projecting and gridding </p><p>19:30 Artist and Negel Research Associate Nnebundo Obi on her portrait of her mother </p><p>20:30 “Seeing Through My Third Eye” by Obi</p><p>22:30 Portrait of Obi’s father</p><p>26:00 Peter Drake’s use of slow dry medium to work in acrylic</p><p>27:25 “Take the Stinger Out Please” self-portrait copper etching by Obi </p><p>29:40 companion copper etching by Obi</p><p>30:00 Stein on his collage portrait of Liz Cheney</p><p>33:10 Stein’s website features stop action video of the Cheney portrait in process</p><p>33:40 portrait of VP Harris</p><p>34:00 portrait of Pres Biden</p><p>35:00 use of photographs </p><p>39:00 details in the Cheney portrait </p><p>39:30 Milton Glaser</p><p>40:00 Stein’s preference for work that flips between plasticity and graphic flatness </p><p>40:30 Obi’s experience with collage</p><p>41:50 Stein’s thought of collage as pieces of paint</p><p>42:30 sanding of collage</p><p>43:30 use of water on Xerox paper </p><p>44:00 portrait of Obama </p><p>45:00 photograph of newspaper headline of “Voters reject Cheney” from local paper used in Photoshop for use in Cheney portrait<br/><br/></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>To learn more and view their work, please visit the sites for <a href='https://www.stefaniasallesbruins.com'>Stefania Salles Bruins</a>, <a href='https://www.instagram.com/nnebundoa.obi/'>Nnebundo Obi </a>and <a href='https://www.geoffreystein.com'>Geoffrey Stein</a>.<br/><br/>0:00 Artist and attorney Geoff Stein describing his collage work</p><p>2:00 Artist and attorney Stefania Salles Bruins describes genesis of theme for “Portraits As Still Lives” group show</p><p>3:45 Stephanie Drawdy on her work for the group show</p><p>5:00 Stein on his perspective on the head as a subject </p><p>6:00 Stein on his work in collage</p><p>9:30 Salles Bruins on symbolism in her work</p><p>11:40 Stein on letting work speak for itself</p><p>12:25 Stein on how his work during Iraq war was seen as painting of hostage</p><p>13:40 Salles Bruins’ experience with instructors at New York Academy of Art</p><p>14:30 Salomé with Head of John the Baptist inspiration for Salles Bruins</p><p>16:00 Salles Bruins’ self-portrait mimics Girl With Pearl Earring</p><p>18:00 projecting and gridding </p><p>19:30 Artist and Negel Research Associate Nnebundo Obi on her portrait of her mother </p><p>20:30 “Seeing Through My Third Eye” by Obi</p><p>22:30 Portrait of Obi’s father</p><p>26:00 Peter Drake’s use of slow dry medium to work in acrylic</p><p>27:25 “Take the Stinger Out Please” self-portrait copper etching by Obi </p><p>29:40 companion copper etching by Obi</p><p>30:00 Stein on his collage portrait of Liz Cheney</p><p>33:10 Stein’s website features stop action video of the Cheney portrait in process</p><p>33:40 portrait of VP Harris</p><p>34:00 portrait of Pres Biden</p><p>35:00 use of photographs </p><p>39:00 details in the Cheney portrait </p><p>39:30 Milton Glaser</p><p>40:00 Stein’s preference for work that flips between plasticity and graphic flatness </p><p>40:30 Obi’s experience with collage</p><p>41:50 Stein’s thought of collage as pieces of paint</p><p>42:30 sanding of collage</p><p>43:30 use of water on Xerox paper </p><p>44:00 portrait of Obama </p><p>45:00 photograph of newspaper headline of “Voters reject Cheney” from local paper used in Photoshop for use in Cheney portrait<br/><br/></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <description><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>Cover art - <em>The Scream</em>, fingerprint ink on police print card done in thumb print, 2&quot; x 1-1/4&quot;, 2004 copyright Charles Vincent Sabba<br/><br/>The following are links for Charles Sabba&apos;s <a href='https://charlesvincentsabba.com'>artwork</a>, <a href='http://yourbrushwiththelaw.blogspot.com'>blog</a> and articles with <a href='https://lavocedinewyork.com/author/charles-vincent-sabba-jr/'>La Voce di New York</a>.<br/><br/>Show Notes</p><p>0:00 Sabba’s great-grandfather</p><p>3:45 retired police captain</p><p>4:15 duCret School of Art in Plainfield, NJ</p><p>4:50 1986 - Austrialian Cultural Terrorists stole <em>Weeping</em> <em>Woman</em> by Picasso</p><p>6:20 NYPD Art Theft Investigator </p><p>3:40 US Navy </p><p>7:30 Naples, Italy</p><p>8:35 federal corrections’ witness protection unit</p><p>11:20 School of Visual Arts </p><p>11:40 Betty Thompkins</p><p>11:44 Andrew Gensel</p><p>11:45 Anton van Dalen and his show at the PPOW Gallery </p><p>12:25 Fred DePalma</p><p>13:00 influence of his police work on his art</p><p>14:30 documentary <em>Defending the Peninsula</em></p><p>18:00 the era of power and money over cultural patrimony</p><p>18:40 Napoleon’s looting of Italy </p><p>20:30 Monuments Men</p><p>21:55 1800s Papal Edict governing exportation of works from Italy </p><p>22:30 1947 article 9 of Italy’s Constitution </p><p>23:50 collection of Gardner Museum </p><p>24:35 Vermeer’s The Concert purchased by Gardner</p><p>26:00 Getty Trust - fight over Euphronios Krater with the Met</p><p>27:45 Manhattan DA’s office April 2022 seizure</p><p>28:30 Lysippos di Fano Bronze</p><p>34:30 agreement to table discussion about return of Lysippos pending Italian court ruling</p><p>36:45 assertion that the Lysippos is Greek not Italian</p><p>39:30 status of request for return of Lysippos</p><p>39:50 History Channel television series <em>Histories Greatest Heists</em> with Pierce Brosnan</p><p>41:00 paint chips sent to Boston Herald related to Gardner Heist</p><p>44:00 1997 - William Youngworth negotiated with Gardner Museum for return of stolen works via prosecutors</p><p>45:45 Chicago-based Expert Walter McCrone determined paint chips were from Rembrandt.</p><p>48:35 1998 - Vermeer expert </p><p>49:10 2003 - Dr. Hubert von Sonnenburg, Chairman of Paintings Conservation at The Met, found chips were consistent with the Vermeer</p><p>50:00 Dr. Jennifer Mass’ opinion about the Sonnenberg’s opinion on the paint chips </p><p>52:30 Sabba’s painting practice reflects his interest in art crime - fingerprint paintings</p><p>53:50 Sabba’s portraits of individuals involved in art crime </p><p>55:25 Art critic Jerry Saltz</p><p>56:30 Y Gallery</p><p>58:15 artists that speak to social issues, e.g., prison reform</p><p>1:01:25 Sophie Calle: Last Seen</p><p>1:02:05 climate activists’ attacks on soft targets</p><p>1:06:40 Justice defined</p><p>1:09:20 Legacy<br/><br/></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>Cover art - <em>The Scream</em>, fingerprint ink on police print card done in thumb print, 2&quot; x 1-1/4&quot;, 2004 copyright Charles Vincent Sabba<br/><br/>The following are links for Charles Sabba&apos;s <a href='https://charlesvincentsabba.com'>artwork</a>, <a href='http://yourbrushwiththelaw.blogspot.com'>blog</a> and articles with <a href='https://lavocedinewyork.com/author/charles-vincent-sabba-jr/'>La Voce di New York</a>.<br/><br/>Show Notes</p><p>0:00 Sabba’s great-grandfather</p><p>3:45 retired police captain</p><p>4:15 duCret School of Art in Plainfield, NJ</p><p>4:50 1986 - Austrialian Cultural Terrorists stole <em>Weeping</em> <em>Woman</em> by Picasso</p><p>6:20 NYPD Art Theft Investigator </p><p>3:40 US Navy </p><p>7:30 Naples, Italy</p><p>8:35 federal corrections’ witness protection unit</p><p>11:20 School of Visual Arts </p><p>11:40 Betty Thompkins</p><p>11:44 Andrew Gensel</p><p>11:45 Anton van Dalen and his show at the PPOW Gallery </p><p>12:25 Fred DePalma</p><p>13:00 influence of his police work on his art</p><p>14:30 documentary <em>Defending the Peninsula</em></p><p>18:00 the era of power and money over cultural patrimony</p><p>18:40 Napoleon’s looting of Italy </p><p>20:30 Monuments Men</p><p>21:55 1800s Papal Edict governing exportation of works from Italy </p><p>22:30 1947 article 9 of Italy’s Constitution </p><p>23:50 collection of Gardner Museum </p><p>24:35 Vermeer’s The Concert purchased by Gardner</p><p>26:00 Getty Trust - fight over Euphronios Krater with the Met</p><p>27:45 Manhattan DA’s office April 2022 seizure</p><p>28:30 Lysippos di Fano Bronze</p><p>34:30 agreement to table discussion about return of Lysippos pending Italian court ruling</p><p>36:45 assertion that the Lysippos is Greek not Italian</p><p>39:30 status of request for return of Lysippos</p><p>39:50 History Channel television series <em>Histories Greatest Heists</em> with Pierce Brosnan</p><p>41:00 paint chips sent to Boston Herald related to Gardner Heist</p><p>44:00 1997 - William Youngworth negotiated with Gardner Museum for return of stolen works via prosecutors</p><p>45:45 Chicago-based Expert Walter McCrone determined paint chips were from Rembrandt.</p><p>48:35 1998 - Vermeer expert </p><p>49:10 2003 - Dr. Hubert von Sonnenburg, Chairman of Paintings Conservation at The Met, found chips were consistent with the Vermeer</p><p>50:00 Dr. Jennifer Mass’ opinion about the Sonnenberg’s opinion on the paint chips </p><p>52:30 Sabba’s painting practice reflects his interest in art crime - fingerprint paintings</p><p>53:50 Sabba’s portraits of individuals involved in art crime </p><p>55:25 Art critic Jerry Saltz</p><p>56:30 Y Gallery</p><p>58:15 artists that speak to social issues, e.g., prison reform</p><p>1:01:25 Sophie Calle: Last Seen</p><p>1:02:05 climate activists’ attacks on soft targets</p><p>1:06:40 Justice defined</p><p>1:09:20 Legacy<br/><br/></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Send us Fan Mail "Restoration" musical composition by Toulme, Copyright 2023.  Cover art: excerpt from Consequence, oil on panel, Stephanie Drawdy, copyright 2022.  The following are the featured episode excerpts from Warfare of Art and Law:  Episode 34: Professor Ziva Amishai-Maisels  Episode 48: Columbia Law School's Inaugural Artist-In-Residence Bayeté Ross Smith   Episode 102: Retired Police Captain and Artist Charles Vincent Sabba, Jr.   Episode upcoming: Dr. Christoph Kreutzmüller from ...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>&quot;Restoration&quot; musical composition by <a href='https://www.toulmemusic.com'>Toulme</a>, Copyright 2023.<br/><br/>Cover art: excerpt from <em>Consequence</em>, oil on panel, Stephanie Drawdy, copyright 2022.<br/><br/>The following are the featured episode excerpts from <em>Warfare of Art and Law:</em><br/><br/>Episode 34: <b>Professor Ziva Amishai-Maisels<br/><br/></b>Episode 48: <b>Columbia Law School&apos;s Inaugural Artist-In-Residence Bayeté Ross Smith <br/></b><br/>Episode 102: <b>Retired Police Captain and Artist Charles Vincent Sabba, Jr. <br/></b><br/>Episode upcoming: <b>Dr. Christoph Kreutzmüller from the #lastseen project <br/></b><br/><br/><br/><br/><br/></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>&quot;Restoration&quot; musical composition by <a href='https://www.toulmemusic.com'>Toulme</a>, Copyright 2023.<br/><br/>Cover art: excerpt from <em>Consequence</em>, oil on panel, Stephanie Drawdy, copyright 2022.<br/><br/>The following are the featured episode excerpts from <em>Warfare of Art and Law:</em><br/><br/>Episode 34: <b>Professor Ziva Amishai-Maisels<br/><br/></b>Episode 48: <b>Columbia Law School&apos;s Inaugural Artist-In-Residence Bayeté Ross Smith <br/></b><br/>Episode 102: <b>Retired Police Captain and Artist Charles Vincent Sabba, Jr. <br/></b><br/>Episode upcoming: <b>Dr. Christoph Kreutzmüller from the #lastseen project <br/></b><br/><br/><br/><br/><br/></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Send us Fan Mail To learn more, please visit the website for Dr. Suzanne Evans.  Show Notes: 0:00 Suzanne Evans’ hope for the legacy she is creating to tell and compel more women’s stories 1:35 Evans’ degree in philopshy lead to teaching English in China 2:30 Evans’ writing themes are women in Canada and women in war and religion 2:40 Canadian International Development Agency to organize educational briefings for Canadians going to work overseas 4:00 PhD in religious studies 4:40 martyrdom 5:...]]></itunes:summary>
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    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>To learn more, please visit the <a href='https://suzanneevans.ca'>website for Dr. Suzanne Evans</a>.<br/><br/>Show Notes:</p><p>0:00 Suzanne Evans’ hope for the legacy she is creating to tell and compel more women’s stories</p><p>1:35 Evans’ degree in philopshy lead to teaching English in China</p><p>2:30 Evans’ writing themes are women in Canada and women in war and religion</p><p>2:40 Canadian International Development Agency to organize educational briefings for Canadians going to work overseas</p><p>4:00 PhD in religious studies</p><p>4:40 martyrdom</p><p>5:20 Palestinian mother/martyr</p><p>6:00 Mothers of Heroes, Mothers of Martyrs: WWI and the Politics of Grief</p><p>7:00 Silver Cross mother and its development </p><p>8:00 how soldiers of war were presented in the media </p><p>8:20 post-doctoral fellowship at the Canadian War Museum to study stories of Canadian women and war</p><p>9:40 diary of WWI masseuse </p><p>10:00 study of physio-therapist in WWI and WWII</p><p>11:40 occupational therapy, including basketweaving, for wounded WWI veterans</p><p>12:30 Changi quilts made in Singapore’s Changi jail overtaken by Japanese</p><p>13:15 Ethel Mulvany’s Starving Prisoners of War Cookbook</p><p>14:45 research for <em>The Taste of Longing: Ethel Mulvany and Her Starving Prisoners of War Cookbook</em></p><p>22:20  couple housed by Mulvany </p><p>24:15 Museum on Manitoulin Island </p><p>27:45 Mulvany’s suffering from bipolar disorder</p><p>28:45 how women’s stories from the war have been downgraded</p><p>32:00 recommended reading: Freddy Bloom’s Dear Philip: <em>A Diary of Captivity, Changi, 1942-45</em></p><p>32:35 Mary Thomas’ <em>In the Shadow of the Rising Sun</em></p><p>32:35 P.C. B. Newington’s <em>Good Food</em></p><p>33:45 record-keeping from the WWII era</p><p>36:00 treatment of Mulvany for her mental illness </p><p>37:00 electric shock therapy without sedatives</p><p>37:20 insulin therapy treatment in India</p><p>38:15 War Claims Commission’s medical records for Mulvany</p><p>40:00 virtual feasts for book launch during pandemic</p><p>43:15 use of propaganda in WWI and WWII</p><p>45:40 upcoming cookbook project </p><p>46:10 Five Roses Enriched Floor Cookbook </p><p>49:00 Evans’ definition of justice </p><p>50:00 Walter Allward&apos;s statue of justice<br/><br/>52:45 Per Allward: &quot;Through truth and justice, war might cease and peace would descend over the earth.&quot;<br/><br/>53:20 Persons case in 1928 - Canada’s Supreme Court denied women could be deemed “persons”; overturned by Judicial Privy Counsel </p><p>54:25 “justice is shifting in our time…I don’t want my justice to be blindfolded; I want her to be far sighted so that she can see change and adapt.”</p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Send us Fan Mail Cover photo of Rick Allen - copyright Cindy Burnham, Lucky Shot Productions   To learn more, please visit Escapist Magazine's coverage about the copyright suit surrounding Queen Anne's Revenge and the U.S. Supreme Court's March 2020 decision in Allen, et al. v. Cooper, Governor of North Carolina, et al.  Show Notes: September 2022 2ND Saturday Discussion: 1:04 Background of  Blackbeard and Queen Anne’s Revenge 4:00 Intersal handed shipwreck over to NC; kept media rights,...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>Cover photo of Rick Allen - copyright Cindy Burnham, Lucky Shot Productions <br/><br/>To learn more, please visit <a href='https://www.escapistmagazine.com/blackbeard-copyright-law-states-rights-north-carolina-supreme-court/'>Escapist Magazine&apos;s coverage about the copyright suit surrounding Queen Anne&apos;s Revenge</a> and the <a href='https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/19pdf/18-877_dc8f.pdf'>U.S. Supreme Court&apos;s March 2020 decision in Allen, et al. v. Cooper, Governor of North Carolina, et al</a>.<br/><br/>Show Notes:</p><p>September 2022 2ND Saturday Discussion:</p><p>1:04 Background of  Blackbeard and Queen Anne’s Revenge</p><p>4:00 Intersal handed shipwreck over to NC; kept media rights, replica rights</p><p>4:45 Allen’s shooting underwater footage to document recovery of shipwreck</p><p>5:50 Allen agreed to license his footage and give Intersal 25% gross profits from that</p><p>6:25 2013 - changes with new NC administration - NC had been using footage commercially</p><p>7:25 NC hired other production companies in violation of Intersal’s media rights</p><p>7:45 Intersal filed complaint in NC’s Office of Administrative Hearings </p><p>7:55 Allen revoked NC’s rights to use Allen’s footage</p><p>8:00 Oct 2013 settlement w/ NC, Intersal and Allen</p><p>9:10 NC violations of settlement</p><p>935 2015 Blackbeard’s Law </p><p>10:15 Dec 2015 - Allen&apos;s suit against NC </p><p>10:45 Copyright Remedy Clarification Act</p><p>12:10 9-0 ruling by SCOTUS that CRCA was unconstitutional</p><p>13:50  Motion for Reconsideration</p><p>14:25 takings clause argument </p><p>15:25 NC appealed district court’s grant of MFR to the 4th Circuit</p><p>16:00 summary of timeline</p><p>18:00 Jan Felman’s question </p><p>20:20 Indiana suit sited Allen v. Cooper </p><p>20:50 Michael Bynum’s suit against Texas A&amp;M over copyright infringement</p><p>23:35 Andrew Smith’s question </p><p>25:15 pattern by the state required - 16 cases cited by Allen of states violating copyrights</p><p>26:00 US copyright office verified 160 cases initiated against states for copyright violations</p><p>28:10 Emily Gould’s question </p><p>31:30 Summary of points from Q&amp;A</p><p>32:45 financial impact of a museum created for shipwreck on the NC community</p><p>36:20 Andrew Smith’s FU questions </p><p>38:30 Gina McKlveen’s question </p><p>43:23 Enid Lutswana’s question </p><p>47:00 Update on Allen v. Cooper</p><p>47:51 January 2023 stay lifted; denied NC’s petition requesting court to reconsider granting motion for reconsideration; and granted request to file amended complaint </p><p>49:00 NC’s Blackbeard Law alleged to be bill of attainder</p><p>51:00 Texas A&amp;M case </p><p>51:45 libraries to be charged fees by book publishers</p><p>52:25 Jim Olive lost sui</p><p>52:10 Indiana case </p><p>54:15 TX Supreme Court in <em>Olive</em> </p><p>55:30 Allen’s view of the precedent he’s creating</p><p>58:25 NC’s failure to reach out to settle suit</p><p>59:45 whether Allen’s view of justice has been jaded</p><p>01:01:30 chilling effect from NC’s position</p><p>01:03:50 definition of justice </p><p>01:06:00  legacy</p><p>01:08:00  legal team</p><p>01:11:00 status of shipwreck </p><p>01:11:30 Intersal’s suit </p><p><br/></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>Cover photo of Rick Allen - copyright Cindy Burnham, Lucky Shot Productions <br/><br/>To learn more, please visit <a href='https://www.escapistmagazine.com/blackbeard-copyright-law-states-rights-north-carolina-supreme-court/'>Escapist Magazine&apos;s coverage about the copyright suit surrounding Queen Anne&apos;s Revenge</a> and the <a href='https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/19pdf/18-877_dc8f.pdf'>U.S. Supreme Court&apos;s March 2020 decision in Allen, et al. v. Cooper, Governor of North Carolina, et al</a>.<br/><br/>Show Notes:</p><p>September 2022 2ND Saturday Discussion:</p><p>1:04 Background of  Blackbeard and Queen Anne’s Revenge</p><p>4:00 Intersal handed shipwreck over to NC; kept media rights, replica rights</p><p>4:45 Allen’s shooting underwater footage to document recovery of shipwreck</p><p>5:50 Allen agreed to license his footage and give Intersal 25% gross profits from that</p><p>6:25 2013 - changes with new NC administration - NC had been using footage commercially</p><p>7:25 NC hired other production companies in violation of Intersal’s media rights</p><p>7:45 Intersal filed complaint in NC’s Office of Administrative Hearings </p><p>7:55 Allen revoked NC’s rights to use Allen’s footage</p><p>8:00 Oct 2013 settlement w/ NC, Intersal and Allen</p><p>9:10 NC violations of settlement</p><p>935 2015 Blackbeard’s Law </p><p>10:15 Dec 2015 - Allen&apos;s suit against NC </p><p>10:45 Copyright Remedy Clarification Act</p><p>12:10 9-0 ruling by SCOTUS that CRCA was unconstitutional</p><p>13:50  Motion for Reconsideration</p><p>14:25 takings clause argument </p><p>15:25 NC appealed district court’s grant of MFR to the 4th Circuit</p><p>16:00 summary of timeline</p><p>18:00 Jan Felman’s question </p><p>20:20 Indiana suit sited Allen v. Cooper </p><p>20:50 Michael Bynum’s suit against Texas A&amp;M over copyright infringement</p><p>23:35 Andrew Smith’s question </p><p>25:15 pattern by the state required - 16 cases cited by Allen of states violating copyrights</p><p>26:00 US copyright office verified 160 cases initiated against states for copyright violations</p><p>28:10 Emily Gould’s question </p><p>31:30 Summary of points from Q&amp;A</p><p>32:45 financial impact of a museum created for shipwreck on the NC community</p><p>36:20 Andrew Smith’s FU questions </p><p>38:30 Gina McKlveen’s question </p><p>43:23 Enid Lutswana’s question </p><p>47:00 Update on Allen v. Cooper</p><p>47:51 January 2023 stay lifted; denied NC’s petition requesting court to reconsider granting motion for reconsideration; and granted request to file amended complaint </p><p>49:00 NC’s Blackbeard Law alleged to be bill of attainder</p><p>51:00 Texas A&amp;M case </p><p>51:45 libraries to be charged fees by book publishers</p><p>52:25 Jim Olive lost sui</p><p>52:10 Indiana case </p><p>54:15 TX Supreme Court in <em>Olive</em> </p><p>55:30 Allen’s view of the precedent he’s creating</p><p>58:25 NC’s failure to reach out to settle suit</p><p>59:45 whether Allen’s view of justice has been jaded</p><p>01:01:30 chilling effect from NC’s position</p><p>01:03:50 definition of justice </p><p>01:06:00  legacy</p><p>01:08:00  legal team</p><p>01:11:00 status of shipwreck </p><p>01:11:30 Intersal’s suit </p><p><br/></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Send us Fan Mail "Exposed" musical composition by Toulme, Copyright 2023.  Cover art: excerpt from Consequence, oil on panel, Stephanie Drawdy, copyright 2022.  The following are the featured episode excerpts from Warfare of Art and Law:  Episode 38: Glance at Culture - Defiant Requiem: Maestro Murry Sidlin on Terezín Concentration Camp, Verdi's Requiem, the Arts &amp; Social Justice  Episode 27: Nazi Plundered Art: Nathan Diament On the Legacy of Artist J.D. Kirszenbaum (1900-1954)   Please ...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>&quot;Exposed&quot; musical composition by <a href='https://www.toulmemusic.com'>Toulme</a>, Copyright 2023.<br/><br/>Cover art: excerpt from <em>Consequence</em>, oil on panel, Stephanie Drawdy, copyright 2022.<br/><br/>The following are the featured episode excerpts from <em>Warfare of Art and Law:</em><br/><br/>Episode 38: <b>Glance at Culture - Defiant Requiem: Maestro Murry Sidlin on Terezín Concentration Camp, Verdi&apos;s Requiem, the Arts &amp; Social Justice</b><br/><br/>Episode 27: <b>Nazi Plundered Art: Nathan Diament On the Legacy of Artist J.D. Kirszenbaum (1900-1954)<br/></b><br/></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>&quot;Exposed&quot; musical composition by <a href='https://www.toulmemusic.com'>Toulme</a>, Copyright 2023.<br/><br/>Cover art: excerpt from <em>Consequence</em>, oil on panel, Stephanie Drawdy, copyright 2022.<br/><br/>The following are the featured episode excerpts from <em>Warfare of Art and Law:</em><br/><br/>Episode 38: <b>Glance at Culture - Defiant Requiem: Maestro Murry Sidlin on Terezín Concentration Camp, Verdi&apos;s Requiem, the Arts &amp; Social Justice</b><br/><br/>Episode 27: <b>Nazi Plundered Art: Nathan Diament On the Legacy of Artist J.D. Kirszenbaum (1900-1954)<br/></b><br/></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Send us Fan Mail Cover Photograph: Mr. Sparks: A Quest for Truth &amp; Reconciliation, Copyright Nnebundo Obi 2022.  Nnebundo Obi's presentation is available here. To learn more about Nagel Institute's Engaging African Realities project, please visit the following link.  Show Notes: 0:00 South African revolutionary Robert Sobukwe 3:20 Nagel Institute Research Associate - Engaging African Realities Project  Presentation from annual conference in Capetown  4:05 Slide 2 - former S. Afr...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>Cover Photograph: <em>Mr. Sparks: A Quest for Truth &amp; Reconciliation</em>, Copyright Nnebundo Obi 2022.<br/><br/>Nnebundo Obi&apos;s presentation is available <a href='https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1Q95WD3QsKPRLqW_5lwLebWMAAot3BxnFUu7qlRRiioc/edit?usp=sharing '>here</a>. To learn more about Nagel Institute&apos;s Engaging African Realities project, please visit the following <a href='https://nagelinstitute.org/project/engaging-african-realities/'>link</a>.<br/><br/>Show Notes:<br/>0:00 South African revolutionary Robert Sobukwe</p><p>3:20 Nagel Institute Research Associate - Engaging African Realities Project </p><p>Presentation from annual conference in Capetown </p><p>4:05 Slide 2 - former S. African President Nelson Mandela’s cell at Robben Island</p><p>4:20 history of Robben Island, see slide 2</p><p>5:30 escapee from Robben Island David Stuurman</p><p>6:10 First female political prisoner on Robben Island, Krotoa or Eva </p><p>7:10 1961, Robben Island used as prison for non-white political activists exclusively </p><p>8:30 one letter and one visit per year for inmates at Robben Island</p><p>9:25 Hard labour in the limestone quarry</p><p>10:00 tour of Robben Island per Mr. Sparks, former inmate and current tour guide at Robben Island -  slide 4</p><p>12:40 Puzamandla: The “energy giving drink”, a hidden poison</p><p>14:00 Mr. Sparks gives testimony about his suffering at Robben Island to free himself</p><p>14:50 Kirstenbosch National Botanical Garden - see slide 5</p><p>15:00 Lion’s Head, Tabletop Mountain Range - see slide 6</p><p>15:30 1800s creation of Van Riebeeck’s Hedge to mark Dutch property, shown at slide 6</p><p>16:10 Boulder’s Penguin Colony</p><p>16:25 history of <b>apartheid - see slide 8</b></p><p>17:20 - 1979 “total strategy” 12 point plan to crush opposition to apartheid</p><p>18:20 1996 Truth and Reconciliation Commission (TRC) established by Nelson Mandela</p><p>18:45 hearings for restorative justice</p><p>19:20 1977 founding of MEDU Art Ensemble </p><p>20:30 female anti-pass protestors - see slide 10</p><p>22:30 1956 women’s march - see slide 11</p><p>23:00 Judy Sideman, member of MEDU Art Ensemble from 1980—1985  - see slide 11</p><p>24:20 MEDU Art Ensemble history - see slide 12</p><p>27:00 MEDU Art Ensemble posters - see slides 9, 12, 13</p><p>29:00 MEDU Art Ensemble targeted by the South African defense force</p><p>30:15 the power of testimony and collaboration and importance of mobilizing and gathering strength from community</p><p>30:45 University of Capetown</p><p>31:00 - 2015 ‘RHODES MUST FALL’ movement to remove the statue of British Imperialist Cecil Rhodes at the University of Cape Town - see slide 14</p><p>34:20 impact of removing statues like those of Cecil Rhodes </p><p>38:00 impact of MEDU Art Ensemble on end of apartheid</p><p>39:00 Terrorism Act </p><p>39:45 MEDU&apos;s community outreach </p><p>41:45 Cohesion and single-minded vision of MEDU </p><p>42:30 Nnebundo’s way of engaging with social justice issues</p><p>44:20 definition of justice</p><p>49:00 Netflix docu-series <em>How To Become a Tyrant</em> </p><p>51:00 Jan Felman’s comments</p><p>51:40 Stefania Salles-Bruins’ comments </p><p>53:25 Jarnick Vitters’ comments <br/><br/></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>Cover Photograph: <em>Mr. Sparks: A Quest for Truth &amp; Reconciliation</em>, Copyright Nnebundo Obi 2022.<br/><br/>Nnebundo Obi&apos;s presentation is available <a href='https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1Q95WD3QsKPRLqW_5lwLebWMAAot3BxnFUu7qlRRiioc/edit?usp=sharing '>here</a>. To learn more about Nagel Institute&apos;s Engaging African Realities project, please visit the following <a href='https://nagelinstitute.org/project/engaging-african-realities/'>link</a>.<br/><br/>Show Notes:<br/>0:00 South African revolutionary Robert Sobukwe</p><p>3:20 Nagel Institute Research Associate - Engaging African Realities Project </p><p>Presentation from annual conference in Capetown </p><p>4:05 Slide 2 - former S. African President Nelson Mandela’s cell at Robben Island</p><p>4:20 history of Robben Island, see slide 2</p><p>5:30 escapee from Robben Island David Stuurman</p><p>6:10 First female political prisoner on Robben Island, Krotoa or Eva </p><p>7:10 1961, Robben Island used as prison for non-white political activists exclusively </p><p>8:30 one letter and one visit per year for inmates at Robben Island</p><p>9:25 Hard labour in the limestone quarry</p><p>10:00 tour of Robben Island per Mr. Sparks, former inmate and current tour guide at Robben Island -  slide 4</p><p>12:40 Puzamandla: The “energy giving drink”, a hidden poison</p><p>14:00 Mr. Sparks gives testimony about his suffering at Robben Island to free himself</p><p>14:50 Kirstenbosch National Botanical Garden - see slide 5</p><p>15:00 Lion’s Head, Tabletop Mountain Range - see slide 6</p><p>15:30 1800s creation of Van Riebeeck’s Hedge to mark Dutch property, shown at slide 6</p><p>16:10 Boulder’s Penguin Colony</p><p>16:25 history of <b>apartheid - see slide 8</b></p><p>17:20 - 1979 “total strategy” 12 point plan to crush opposition to apartheid</p><p>18:20 1996 Truth and Reconciliation Commission (TRC) established by Nelson Mandela</p><p>18:45 hearings for restorative justice</p><p>19:20 1977 founding of MEDU Art Ensemble </p><p>20:30 female anti-pass protestors - see slide 10</p><p>22:30 1956 women’s march - see slide 11</p><p>23:00 Judy Sideman, member of MEDU Art Ensemble from 1980—1985  - see slide 11</p><p>24:20 MEDU Art Ensemble history - see slide 12</p><p>27:00 MEDU Art Ensemble posters - see slides 9, 12, 13</p><p>29:00 MEDU Art Ensemble targeted by the South African defense force</p><p>30:15 the power of testimony and collaboration and importance of mobilizing and gathering strength from community</p><p>30:45 University of Capetown</p><p>31:00 - 2015 ‘RHODES MUST FALL’ movement to remove the statue of British Imperialist Cecil Rhodes at the University of Cape Town - see slide 14</p><p>34:20 impact of removing statues like those of Cecil Rhodes </p><p>38:00 impact of MEDU Art Ensemble on end of apartheid</p><p>39:00 Terrorism Act </p><p>39:45 MEDU&apos;s community outreach </p><p>41:45 Cohesion and single-minded vision of MEDU </p><p>42:30 Nnebundo’s way of engaging with social justice issues</p><p>44:20 definition of justice</p><p>49:00 Netflix docu-series <em>How To Become a Tyrant</em> </p><p>51:00 Jan Felman’s comments</p><p>51:40 Stefania Salles-Bruins’ comments </p><p>53:25 Jarnick Vitters’ comments <br/><br/></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Send us Fan Mail Please visit the following to view the Benin Bronzes and to learn more about the Restitution Study Group.  Show Notes: 00:00 manillas used to trade for slaves as documented by Alan Ryder in Benin and the Europeans 02:50 mission and work of Restitution Study Group to fight for slavery justice 03:20 RSG’s focus on corporations, private estates and governments that were complicit in slavery 03:45 RSG’s suits against insurance companies for slavery policies 06:00 RSG’s suits agai...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>Please visit the following to view the <a href='https://www.si.edu/newsdesk/releases/smithsonian-returns-29-benin-bronzes-national-commission-museums-and-monuments'>Benin Bronzes</a> and to learn more about the <a href='https://rsgincorp.org'>Restitution Study Group</a>.<br/><br/>Show Notes:</p><p>00:00 manillas used to trade for slaves as documented by Alan Ryder in <em>Benin and the Europeans</em></p><p>02:50 mission and work of Restitution Study Group to fight for slavery justice</p><p>03:20 RSG’s focus on corporations, private estates and governments that were complicit in slavery</p><p>03:45 RSG’s suits against insurance companies for slavery policies</p><p>06:00 RSG’s suits against banks like J.P. Morgan Chase</p><p>0:630 RSG’s suits included consumer fraud and human rights arguments</p><p>07:30 DNA testing used by RSG </p><p>08:30 DNA results and TransAtlantic Slave Trade Database used to trace ancestry</p><p>08:50 RSG’s action filed for genocide compensation efforts</p><p>09:35 the Proxmire Act, Genocide Convention Implementation Act of 1987</p><p>12:30 RSG’s suit against the Smithsonian Institution over the Benin Bronzes</p><p>14:40 1896 massacre of British soldiers </p><p>15:30 Kingdom of Benin’s practice of sacrifice </p><p>16:15 RSG’s demand for a share of the Benin Bronzes</p><p>17:20 RSG’s meeting with Kingdom of Benin’s princess </p><p>19:20 Charleston, SC</p><p>19:30 Jamaica</p><p>21:00 <em>The Benin Monarchy: An Anthology</em> by Oba Ewuare II Foundation (2018) </p><p>21:55 Paula Girshik</p><p>22:25 Harz Mountains</p><p>23:50 Smithsonian Institution’s National Museum of African Art&apos;s Ngaire Blankenberg  &quot;confusion&quot; on Kingdom of Benin&apos;s involvement in  slave trade </p><p>24:45 per Dr. Paul Lovejoy, manillas were used in  slave traded and to make Benin Bronzes for 300 years</p><p>26:00 RSG’s allegations that Smithsonian is violating US law that requires consideration for transfer of the Bronzes outside the Smithsonian</p><p>28:00 Board of Regents vote on transfer of Benin Bronzes</p><p>30:30 11 October 2022 - Smithsonian’s scheduled transfer of Benin Bronzes </p><p>31:30 Lack of media attention on this issue</p><p>31:50 Short film <em>They Belong to All of Us</em></p><p>34:00 RSG’s suit against the Smithsonian is a restitution case</p><p>34:45 RSG’s efforts with institutions other than the Smithsonian</p><p>36:50 bronzes taken according to the laws of war</p><p>39:45 forensic research </p><p>41:50 16th-19th Century Bronzes</p><p>42:15 Dan Hicks’ book <em>The Brutish Museum</em></p><p>43:50 removing labels from the Bronzes</p><p>44:50 Oba Head gifted by Nigerian leader </p><p>48:30 Benin City - hub of human trafficking </p><p>51:20 African scholar Dr. Ibrahima Seck </p><p>52:00 missing slave trade documentation for two main slave ports</p><p>54:00 one on one approach with American institutions</p><p>57:00 Petition submitted to UK’s Charities Commission</p><p>1:02:00 Smithsonian’s current holdings of Bronzes</p><p>1:04:00 RSG’s emergency motion</p><p>1:05:20 number of Bronzes in the U.S.</p><p>1:09:00 dual citizenship</p><p>1:11:00 Nigeria’s request for reparations </p><p>1:11:50 definition of justice</p><p>1:14:00 opportunity for Nigeria to speak up<br/><br/></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>Please visit the following to view the <a href='https://www.si.edu/newsdesk/releases/smithsonian-returns-29-benin-bronzes-national-commission-museums-and-monuments'>Benin Bronzes</a> and to learn more about the <a href='https://rsgincorp.org'>Restitution Study Group</a>.<br/><br/>Show Notes:</p><p>00:00 manillas used to trade for slaves as documented by Alan Ryder in <em>Benin and the Europeans</em></p><p>02:50 mission and work of Restitution Study Group to fight for slavery justice</p><p>03:20 RSG’s focus on corporations, private estates and governments that were complicit in slavery</p><p>03:45 RSG’s suits against insurance companies for slavery policies</p><p>06:00 RSG’s suits against banks like J.P. Morgan Chase</p><p>0:630 RSG’s suits included consumer fraud and human rights arguments</p><p>07:30 DNA testing used by RSG </p><p>08:30 DNA results and TransAtlantic Slave Trade Database used to trace ancestry</p><p>08:50 RSG’s action filed for genocide compensation efforts</p><p>09:35 the Proxmire Act, Genocide Convention Implementation Act of 1987</p><p>12:30 RSG’s suit against the Smithsonian Institution over the Benin Bronzes</p><p>14:40 1896 massacre of British soldiers </p><p>15:30 Kingdom of Benin’s practice of sacrifice </p><p>16:15 RSG’s demand for a share of the Benin Bronzes</p><p>17:20 RSG’s meeting with Kingdom of Benin’s princess </p><p>19:20 Charleston, SC</p><p>19:30 Jamaica</p><p>21:00 <em>The Benin Monarchy: An Anthology</em> by Oba Ewuare II Foundation (2018) </p><p>21:55 Paula Girshik</p><p>22:25 Harz Mountains</p><p>23:50 Smithsonian Institution’s National Museum of African Art&apos;s Ngaire Blankenberg  &quot;confusion&quot; on Kingdom of Benin&apos;s involvement in  slave trade </p><p>24:45 per Dr. Paul Lovejoy, manillas were used in  slave traded and to make Benin Bronzes for 300 years</p><p>26:00 RSG’s allegations that Smithsonian is violating US law that requires consideration for transfer of the Bronzes outside the Smithsonian</p><p>28:00 Board of Regents vote on transfer of Benin Bronzes</p><p>30:30 11 October 2022 - Smithsonian’s scheduled transfer of Benin Bronzes </p><p>31:30 Lack of media attention on this issue</p><p>31:50 Short film <em>They Belong to All of Us</em></p><p>34:00 RSG’s suit against the Smithsonian is a restitution case</p><p>34:45 RSG’s efforts with institutions other than the Smithsonian</p><p>36:50 bronzes taken according to the laws of war</p><p>39:45 forensic research </p><p>41:50 16th-19th Century Bronzes</p><p>42:15 Dan Hicks’ book <em>The Brutish Museum</em></p><p>43:50 removing labels from the Bronzes</p><p>44:50 Oba Head gifted by Nigerian leader </p><p>48:30 Benin City - hub of human trafficking </p><p>51:20 African scholar Dr. Ibrahima Seck </p><p>52:00 missing slave trade documentation for two main slave ports</p><p>54:00 one on one approach with American institutions</p><p>57:00 Petition submitted to UK’s Charities Commission</p><p>1:02:00 Smithsonian’s current holdings of Bronzes</p><p>1:04:00 RSG’s emergency motion</p><p>1:05:20 number of Bronzes in the U.S.</p><p>1:09:00 dual citizenship</p><p>1:11:00 Nigeria’s request for reparations </p><p>1:11:50 definition of justice</p><p>1:14:00 opportunity for Nigeria to speak up<br/><br/></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Send us Fan Mail "Prejudice" musical composition by Toulme, Copyright 2022.  Cover art: excerpt from Consequence, oil on panel, Stephanie Drawdy, copyright 2022.  "Prejudice" features episode excerpts from Warfare of Art and Law in the following order:  Episode 75: David de Jong on his book Nazi Billionaires and his call for Historical Transparency from Families that control brands like BMW, Porsche, Volkswagen, Dr. Oetker, Bahlsen, Allianz and Munich Re  Episode 34: Glance at Culture - The H...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>&quot;Prejudice&quot; musical composition by <a href='https://www.toulmemusic.com'>Toulme</a>, Copyright 2022.<br/><br/>Cover art: excerpt from <em>Consequence</em>, oil on panel, Stephanie Drawdy, copyright 2022.<br/><br/>&quot;Prejudice&quot; features episode excerpts from <em>Warfare of Art and Law </em>in the following order:<br/><br/>Episode 75: David de Jong on his book Nazi Billionaires and his call for Historical Transparency from Families that control brands like BMW, Porsche, Volkswagen, Dr. Oetker, Bahlsen, Allianz and Munich Re<br/><br/>Episode 34: Glance at Culture - The Holocaust in Modern Art: Professor Ziva Amishai-Maisels on Artists Picasso, Chagall, Rothko, Bacon and more<b><br/></b><br/>Episode 71: Dr. Joanna Sliwa On Holocaust Distortion, Poland&apos;s ‘Politics of Memory’, Jewish Childhood in Kraków, an Undercover Jewess Who Negotiated with the Nazis, and a Legacy to Inspire Future Scholars of All Genocide<br/><br/>Episode 85: Glance at Culture - Ella Nowicki on Incarceration, Art and Defining Justice in Terms of Accountability<br/><br/>Episode 49: Glance at Culture - A Conversation with Art Historian and Author Dr. Laura Morelli on Historical Justice and Historical Fiction<b><br/></b><br/>Episode 83: ASU Art Museum Director Miki Garcia On Art&apos;s Power to Address Inherited Notions About Mass Incarceration, the Undoing Time Exhibition, and Justice As Public Love <br/><br/>Episode 62: Glance at Culture - Ukrainian-American Artist Mira Hnatyshyn on Ukrainian History &amp; Heritage, Art as Protest and Creating a Community of Empathy<br/><br/>Episode 17: Mosse Art Restitution Project: Director of Investigations J. Eric Bartko On the Washington Principles and Restitution Efforts In Poland, Israel, Russia and the Netherlands<br/><br/>Episode 92: Glance at Culture - Journalist and Author Peter Kupfer on his book &quot;The Glassmaker&apos;s Son&quot;<br/><br/>Episode 11: Max Stern Art Restitution Project: Dr. Willi Korte On Restitution of Nazi-Looted Art, Sales Under Duress, and the German Advisory Commission<br/><br/>Episode 73: Glance at Culture - Author Menachem Kaiser on His Book Plunder, His Research and Property Claim in Poland, the Vilna Ghetto and the Frustrating Design of Judicial Systems <br/><br/></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>&quot;Prejudice&quot; musical composition by <a href='https://www.toulmemusic.com'>Toulme</a>, Copyright 2022.<br/><br/>Cover art: excerpt from <em>Consequence</em>, oil on panel, Stephanie Drawdy, copyright 2022.<br/><br/>&quot;Prejudice&quot; features episode excerpts from <em>Warfare of Art and Law </em>in the following order:<br/><br/>Episode 75: David de Jong on his book Nazi Billionaires and his call for Historical Transparency from Families that control brands like BMW, Porsche, Volkswagen, Dr. Oetker, Bahlsen, Allianz and Munich Re<br/><br/>Episode 34: Glance at Culture - The Holocaust in Modern Art: Professor Ziva Amishai-Maisels on Artists Picasso, Chagall, Rothko, Bacon and more<b><br/></b><br/>Episode 71: Dr. Joanna Sliwa On Holocaust Distortion, Poland&apos;s ‘Politics of Memory’, Jewish Childhood in Kraków, an Undercover Jewess Who Negotiated with the Nazis, and a Legacy to Inspire Future Scholars of All Genocide<br/><br/>Episode 85: Glance at Culture - Ella Nowicki on Incarceration, Art and Defining Justice in Terms of Accountability<br/><br/>Episode 49: Glance at Culture - A Conversation with Art Historian and Author Dr. Laura Morelli on Historical Justice and Historical Fiction<b><br/></b><br/>Episode 83: ASU Art Museum Director Miki Garcia On Art&apos;s Power to Address Inherited Notions About Mass Incarceration, the Undoing Time Exhibition, and Justice As Public Love <br/><br/>Episode 62: Glance at Culture - Ukrainian-American Artist Mira Hnatyshyn on Ukrainian History &amp; Heritage, Art as Protest and Creating a Community of Empathy<br/><br/>Episode 17: Mosse Art Restitution Project: Director of Investigations J. Eric Bartko On the Washington Principles and Restitution Efforts In Poland, Israel, Russia and the Netherlands<br/><br/>Episode 92: Glance at Culture - Journalist and Author Peter Kupfer on his book &quot;The Glassmaker&apos;s Son&quot;<br/><br/>Episode 11: Max Stern Art Restitution Project: Dr. Willi Korte On Restitution of Nazi-Looted Art, Sales Under Duress, and the German Advisory Commission<br/><br/>Episode 73: Glance at Culture - Author Menachem Kaiser on His Book Plunder, His Research and Property Claim in Poland, the Vilna Ghetto and the Frustrating Design of Judicial Systems <br/><br/></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <itunes:title>Glance at Culture - Rachel Stern on the Fritz Ascher Society, Inner Emigration &amp; Art&#39;s Power to Create a Better World</itunes:title>
    <title>Glance at Culture - Rachel Stern on the Fritz Ascher Society, Inner Emigration &amp; Art&#39;s Power to Create a Better World</title>
    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Send us Fan Mail Please visit  Fritz Ascher Society's website and YouTube channel to learn more.  Show Notes: 2:00 mission of The Fritz Ascher Society for Persecuted, Ostracized and Banned Art 3:45 Fritz Ascher’s life and work 8:30 open composition of Ascher’s 1968 Trees in Hilly Landscape compared with blocked tree compositions circa 1940  11:15 recent discovery of portraits by Ascher 14:40 art historic term ‘inner emigration’ 15:45 Ascher’s poetry as ‘unpainted paintings’ 17:50 Ar...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>Please visit  <a href='https://fritzaschersociety.org'>Fritz Ascher Society&apos;s website</a> and <a href='https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCvzyccJESjc9YlQIyzYV1ow'>YouTube channel</a> to learn more.<br/><br/>Show Notes:<br/>2:00 mission of The Fritz Ascher Society for Persecuted, Ostracized and Banned Art</p><p>3:45 Fritz Ascher’s life and work</p><p>8:30 open composition of Ascher’s 1968 <em>Trees in Hilly Landscape</em> compared with blocked tree compositions circa 1940 </p><p>11:15 recent discovery of portraits by Ascher</p><p>14:40 art historic term ‘inner emigration’</p><p>15:45 Ascher’s poetry as ‘unpainted paintings’</p><p>17:50 Artist Jeanne Mammen</p><p>19:35 Artists Lea and Hans Grundig</p><p>23:00 <em>Art For No One</em> exhibition in Frankfurt, Germany</p><p>26:40 creation of Fritz Ascher Society to highlight unknown artists </p><p>29:30 <em>Identity, Art and Migration</em> online exhibition </p><p>34:15 Felix Nussbaum’s work and Felix Nussbaum Haus in Osnabrück, Germany</p><p>35:15 founding director of Felix Nussbaum Haus Inge Jaehner</p><p>35:40 curator of Felix Nussbaum Haus Anne Schwetter </p><p>36:30 Nussbaum’s wife, Felka Platek</p><p>38:00 post-war focus communist control and Cold War</p><p>38:40 her work to create historical justice for these artists and educating about these artists in order to put them into their context</p><p>39:40 justice through telling stories of minorities </p><p>40:40 legacy </p><p>41:20 power of art to initiate discussion and to help create a better world <br/><br/><br/></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>Please visit  <a href='https://fritzaschersociety.org'>Fritz Ascher Society&apos;s website</a> and <a href='https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCvzyccJESjc9YlQIyzYV1ow'>YouTube channel</a> to learn more.<br/><br/>Show Notes:<br/>2:00 mission of The Fritz Ascher Society for Persecuted, Ostracized and Banned Art</p><p>3:45 Fritz Ascher’s life and work</p><p>8:30 open composition of Ascher’s 1968 <em>Trees in Hilly Landscape</em> compared with blocked tree compositions circa 1940 </p><p>11:15 recent discovery of portraits by Ascher</p><p>14:40 art historic term ‘inner emigration’</p><p>15:45 Ascher’s poetry as ‘unpainted paintings’</p><p>17:50 Artist Jeanne Mammen</p><p>19:35 Artists Lea and Hans Grundig</p><p>23:00 <em>Art For No One</em> exhibition in Frankfurt, Germany</p><p>26:40 creation of Fritz Ascher Society to highlight unknown artists </p><p>29:30 <em>Identity, Art and Migration</em> online exhibition </p><p>34:15 Felix Nussbaum’s work and Felix Nussbaum Haus in Osnabrück, Germany</p><p>35:15 founding director of Felix Nussbaum Haus Inge Jaehner</p><p>35:40 curator of Felix Nussbaum Haus Anne Schwetter </p><p>36:30 Nussbaum’s wife, Felka Platek</p><p>38:00 post-war focus communist control and Cold War</p><p>38:40 her work to create historical justice for these artists and educating about these artists in order to put them into their context</p><p>39:40 justice through telling stories of minorities </p><p>40:40 legacy </p><p>41:20 power of art to initiate discussion and to help create a better world <br/><br/><br/></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <itunes:author>The Fritz Ascher Society for Persecuted, Ostracized and Banned Art Director Rachel Stern</itunes:author>
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    <itunes:title>M.C. Sungaila on her Journey as an Appellate Attorney, Author and Creator &amp; Host of the Portia Project Podcast </itunes:title>
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    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Send us Fan Mail To learn more, please visit the websites for M.C. Sungaila, the Portia Project podcast, and Mother's Thoughts For the Day.  Show Notes: 3:00 Overview of M.C. Sungaila’s work 5:00 US v. Lanier, 520 U.S. 259 (1997) 9:00 González et al. (“Cotton Field”) v. Mexico in the Interamerican Court of Human Rights 11:30 factors considered in drafting appellate briefs  14:30 her work on Holocaust art recovery cases began with Randy Schoenberg in Republic of Austria v. Altmann  1...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>To learn more, please visit the websites for <a href='https://www.buchalter.com/attorneys/mc-sungaila/#bio'>M.C. Sungaila</a>, <a href='https://www.portiaprojectpodcast.com'>the Portia Project podcast</a>, and <a href='https://mothersthoughtsfortheday.com'>Mother&apos;s Thoughts For the Day</a>.<br/><br/>Show Notes:<br/>3:00 Overview of M.C. Sungaila’s work</p><p>5:00 <em>US v. Lanier</em>, 520 U.S. 259 (1997)</p><p>9:00 <em>González et al. (“Cotton Field”) v. Mexico </em>in the Interamerican Court of Human Rights</p><p>11:30 factors considered in drafting appellate briefs </p><p>14:30 her work on Holocaust art recovery cases began with Randy Schoenberg in <em>Republic of Austria v. Altmann </em></p><p>16:00 procedural hurdles for heirs in Holocaust art recovery cases</p><p>18:00 <em>Zuckerman</em> cert petition raised questions about the meaning of the HEAR Act and how state equitable doctrines should interplay with the HEAR Act</p><p>20:00 potential issues surrounding drafting of HEAR Act</p><p>21:30 developing issue of how forced sales fit into Holocaust art recovery </p><p>22:40 <em>Cassirer v. Kingdom of Spain, et al</em></p><p>25:30 <em>Federal Republic of Germany, et al v. Philipp</em> aka the Guelph Treasure case</p><p>30:25 <em>Andy Warhol Foundation v. Goldsmith</em></p><p>39:20 need for procedural and substantive fairness in U.S. Legal system</p><p>41:40 mission of the Portia Project Podcast</p><p>49:40 Portia Project documentary </p><p>54:00 Girls Inc episode of the Portia Project</p><p>56:00 Sungaila’s mother as one of her role models</p><p>57:40 Judge Dorothy Nelson and Judge Ferdinand Fernandez of the 9th Circuit</p><p>57:50 Judge Alicemarie Stotler, Chief Judge of the Central District of California </p><p>58:45 Sungaila’s publishing of <em>Mother’s Thoughts For the Day</em></p><p>1:02:00 <em>Mother’s Thoughts For the Day </em>self-guided journal and merchandise </p><p>1:04:40 how Sungaila’s book publishing led to the Portia Project </p><p>1:07:00 advice for mind-management and time-management </p><p>1:10:50 what justice looks like or should look like to Sungaila</p><p>1:13:35 the theme of her work is the importance and power of the individual </p><p>1:14:50 three of Sungaila’s favorite quotes from her mother that relate to making your own mark and persisting <br/><br/></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>To learn more, please visit the websites for <a href='https://www.buchalter.com/attorneys/mc-sungaila/#bio'>M.C. Sungaila</a>, <a href='https://www.portiaprojectpodcast.com'>the Portia Project podcast</a>, and <a href='https://mothersthoughtsfortheday.com'>Mother&apos;s Thoughts For the Day</a>.<br/><br/>Show Notes:<br/>3:00 Overview of M.C. Sungaila’s work</p><p>5:00 <em>US v. Lanier</em>, 520 U.S. 259 (1997)</p><p>9:00 <em>González et al. (“Cotton Field”) v. Mexico </em>in the Interamerican Court of Human Rights</p><p>11:30 factors considered in drafting appellate briefs </p><p>14:30 her work on Holocaust art recovery cases began with Randy Schoenberg in <em>Republic of Austria v. Altmann </em></p><p>16:00 procedural hurdles for heirs in Holocaust art recovery cases</p><p>18:00 <em>Zuckerman</em> cert petition raised questions about the meaning of the HEAR Act and how state equitable doctrines should interplay with the HEAR Act</p><p>20:00 potential issues surrounding drafting of HEAR Act</p><p>21:30 developing issue of how forced sales fit into Holocaust art recovery </p><p>22:40 <em>Cassirer v. Kingdom of Spain, et al</em></p><p>25:30 <em>Federal Republic of Germany, et al v. Philipp</em> aka the Guelph Treasure case</p><p>30:25 <em>Andy Warhol Foundation v. Goldsmith</em></p><p>39:20 need for procedural and substantive fairness in U.S. Legal system</p><p>41:40 mission of the Portia Project Podcast</p><p>49:40 Portia Project documentary </p><p>54:00 Girls Inc episode of the Portia Project</p><p>56:00 Sungaila’s mother as one of her role models</p><p>57:40 Judge Dorothy Nelson and Judge Ferdinand Fernandez of the 9th Circuit</p><p>57:50 Judge Alicemarie Stotler, Chief Judge of the Central District of California </p><p>58:45 Sungaila’s publishing of <em>Mother’s Thoughts For the Day</em></p><p>1:02:00 <em>Mother’s Thoughts For the Day </em>self-guided journal and merchandise </p><p>1:04:40 how Sungaila’s book publishing led to the Portia Project </p><p>1:07:00 advice for mind-management and time-management </p><p>1:10:50 what justice looks like or should look like to Sungaila</p><p>1:13:35 the theme of her work is the importance and power of the individual </p><p>1:14:50 three of Sungaila’s favorite quotes from her mother that relate to making your own mark and persisting <br/><br/></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <itunes:title>Glance at Culture - Peter Kupfer on his book &quot;The Glassmaker&#39;s Son&quot;</itunes:title>
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    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Send us Fan Mail The Glassmaker's Son is available here. Please visit Peter Kupfer's website to learn more.  Show Notes: 3:00 Kupfer’s description of The Glassmaker’s Son  5:00 Kupfer exploration of identity  6:30 Kupfer’s name change  7:45 paternal family history in Germany prior to WWII 10:00 1979 first visit to Bavaria 11:00 NY attorney for Kupfer’s father 12:00 1937 passenger list that includes Kupfer’s father 13:00 Kupfer’s grandfather 14:30 Kupfer’s grandfather in Terezin...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p><em>The Glassmaker&apos;s Son </em>is available <a href='https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0BCHB33K6?tag=vangoghdrawin-20&amp;th=1&amp;psc=1&amp;geniuslink=true'>here</a>. Please visit <a href='https://www.peterkupfer.net'>Peter Kupfer&apos;s website</a> to learn more.<br/><br/>Show Notes:<br/>3:00 Kupfer’s description of <em>The Glassmaker’s Son</em> </p><p>5:00 Kupfer exploration of identity </p><p>6:30 Kupfer’s name change </p><p>7:45 paternal family history in Germany prior to WWII</p><p>10:00 1979 first visit to Bavaria</p><p>11:00 NY attorney for Kupfer’s father</p><p>12:00 1937 passenger list that includes Kupfer’s father</p><p>13:00 Kupfer’s grandfather</p><p>14:30 Kupfer’s grandfather in Terezin</p><p>15:25 Kupfer Villa sold </p><p>16:50 letters between Mr. Kupfer’s father and grandfather regarding escape from Nazis</p><p>19:00 Kupfer’s glassmaking business </p><p>24:00 last meeting of Kupfer business</p><p>26:00 mixed feelings when meeting Germans who knew Kupfer family prior to/during WWII</p><p>29:00 level of anti-semitism in Germany</p><p>31:00 German school education on Holocaust </p><p>32:30 importance of visiting concentration camps</p><p>33:30 Terezin Concentration Camp</p><p>37:30 efforts to seek return of ancestral portraits</p><p>44:00 post-war restitution claims</p><p>46:30 how his story addresses justice<br/><br/>47:45 legacy he hopes his book has</p><p>49:00 his definition of justice confirmed after exploring his family history</p><p>50:50 most surprising aspect of his research for this book</p><p>53:00 Stolperstein ceremony honors Kupfer’s family on November 22, which is also the release day of <em>The Glassmaker’s Son</em></p><p><br/></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p><em>The Glassmaker&apos;s Son </em>is available <a href='https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0BCHB33K6?tag=vangoghdrawin-20&amp;th=1&amp;psc=1&amp;geniuslink=true'>here</a>. Please visit <a href='https://www.peterkupfer.net'>Peter Kupfer&apos;s website</a> to learn more.<br/><br/>Show Notes:<br/>3:00 Kupfer’s description of <em>The Glassmaker’s Son</em> </p><p>5:00 Kupfer exploration of identity </p><p>6:30 Kupfer’s name change </p><p>7:45 paternal family history in Germany prior to WWII</p><p>10:00 1979 first visit to Bavaria</p><p>11:00 NY attorney for Kupfer’s father</p><p>12:00 1937 passenger list that includes Kupfer’s father</p><p>13:00 Kupfer’s grandfather</p><p>14:30 Kupfer’s grandfather in Terezin</p><p>15:25 Kupfer Villa sold </p><p>16:50 letters between Mr. Kupfer’s father and grandfather regarding escape from Nazis</p><p>19:00 Kupfer’s glassmaking business </p><p>24:00 last meeting of Kupfer business</p><p>26:00 mixed feelings when meeting Germans who knew Kupfer family prior to/during WWII</p><p>29:00 level of anti-semitism in Germany</p><p>31:00 German school education on Holocaust </p><p>32:30 importance of visiting concentration camps</p><p>33:30 Terezin Concentration Camp</p><p>37:30 efforts to seek return of ancestral portraits</p><p>44:00 post-war restitution claims</p><p>46:30 how his story addresses justice<br/><br/>47:45 legacy he hopes his book has</p><p>49:00 his definition of justice confirmed after exploring his family history</p><p>50:50 most surprising aspect of his research for this book</p><p>53:00 Stolperstein ceremony honors Kupfer’s family on November 22, which is also the release day of <em>The Glassmaker’s Son</em></p><p><br/></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Send us Fan Mail To learn more, visit Art Recognition's website.  SHOW NOTES: 2:00 Lisa Salama’s background in art and art law 3:00 authentication remains main risk of art trading 3:30 Salama’s work overseeing legal aspect of Art Recognition and  4:00 analysis process 4:15 the deep convolutional neural network mimics human brain 5:30 physical inspection of work is not needed 6:00 algorythm assessment determines authenticity 6:15 heat map shows important features that led to network’s dec...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>To learn more, visit <a href='https://art-recognition.com'>Art Recognition&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>SHOW NOTES:</p><p>2:00 Lisa Salama’s background in art and art law</p><p>3:00 authentication remains main risk of art trading</p><p>3:30 Salama’s work overseeing legal aspect of Art Recognition and </p><p>4:00 analysis process</p><p>4:15 the deep convolutional neural network mimics human brain</p><p>5:30 physical inspection of work is not needed</p><p>6:00 algorythm assessment determines authenticity</p><p>6:15 heat map shows important features that led to network’s decision in red</p><p>6:45 Sample report available, e.g., Cezanne’s Boy In Red Vest</p><p>7:15 Samson &amp; Delilah confirmed as non-authenticate; listed by National Gallery as a Rubens</p><p>8:40 Collaboration with universities </p><p>10:30 data sets</p><p>12:00 analysis of paintings and drawings</p><p>13:00 analysis of restored work</p><p>14:00 legal issues</p><p>16:30 data set due diligence process</p><p>18:00 minimum 100 works for a data set</p><p>19:00 how AI compliments other authentication methods, e.g., art experts</p><p>21:00 Unsupervised Deep Learning involves no human programming</p><p>21:40 works created by school of an artist</p><p>22:30 different styles and periods of an artists’ work</p><p>23:00 graffiti</p><p>23:20 range of clients</p><p>24:00 over 500 case reports completed </p><p>24:10 Future for an Art Recognition app</p><p>24:45 co-creator Dr. Carina Popovici </p><p>26:00 how Art Recognition contributes to transparency in art market</p><p>28:20 Responsible Art Market</p><p><br/></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>To learn more, visit <a href='https://art-recognition.com'>Art Recognition&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>SHOW NOTES:</p><p>2:00 Lisa Salama’s background in art and art law</p><p>3:00 authentication remains main risk of art trading</p><p>3:30 Salama’s work overseeing legal aspect of Art Recognition and </p><p>4:00 analysis process</p><p>4:15 the deep convolutional neural network mimics human brain</p><p>5:30 physical inspection of work is not needed</p><p>6:00 algorythm assessment determines authenticity</p><p>6:15 heat map shows important features that led to network’s decision in red</p><p>6:45 Sample report available, e.g., Cezanne’s Boy In Red Vest</p><p>7:15 Samson &amp; Delilah confirmed as non-authenticate; listed by National Gallery as a Rubens</p><p>8:40 Collaboration with universities </p><p>10:30 data sets</p><p>12:00 analysis of paintings and drawings</p><p>13:00 analysis of restored work</p><p>14:00 legal issues</p><p>16:30 data set due diligence process</p><p>18:00 minimum 100 works for a data set</p><p>19:00 how AI compliments other authentication methods, e.g., art experts</p><p>21:00 Unsupervised Deep Learning involves no human programming</p><p>21:40 works created by school of an artist</p><p>22:30 different styles and periods of an artists’ work</p><p>23:00 graffiti</p><p>23:20 range of clients</p><p>24:00 over 500 case reports completed </p><p>24:10 Future for an Art Recognition app</p><p>24:45 co-creator Dr. Carina Popovici </p><p>26:00 how Art Recognition contributes to transparency in art market</p><p>28:20 Responsible Art Market</p><p><br/></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <title>2ND Saturday Bonus: Getty Docent Howard Turner on the Question of Human Remains in Museum Collections</title>
    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Send us Fan Mail The following are links used to prepare this episode:  https://www.britishmuseum.org/our-work/departments/human-remains https://www.getty.edu/art/collection/object/103WN2   Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com  Music by Toulme.  To hear more episodes, please visit Warfare of Art and Law podcast's website.  To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday ...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>The following are links used to prepare this episode:<br/><br/>https://www.britishmuseum.org/our-work/departments/human-remains<br/>https://www.getty.edu/art/collection/object/103WN2<br/><br/></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>The following are links used to prepare this episode:<br/><br/>https://www.britishmuseum.org/our-work/departments/human-remains<br/>https://www.getty.edu/art/collection/object/103WN2<br/><br/></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <itunes:author>Getty Docent Howard Turner</itunes:author>
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    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Send us Fan Mail To learn more, please visit the website for Museum Art of the Lost Generation.  SHOW NOTES: 2:10 Dr. Böhme's collection 2:50 2nd Generation of Modern Artists  3:00  Corinth,  Beckmann,  Klee,  Kokashka  4:00 Museum’s goal to find/research Lost Generation artists  4:50 Salzburg 5:00 Using Brush and Paint Against the Time  5:20 Exhibition poster image – 1955 self-portrait by Heinrich Emil Adametz studied at Hamburg School of Arts and Craf...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>To learn more, please visit the website for <a href='https://verlorene-generation.com/en/museum-index/'>Museum Art of the Lost Generation</a>.<br/><br/><b>SHOW NOTES:</b></p><p>2:10 Dr. Böhme&apos;s collection</p><p>2:50 2nd Generation of Modern Artists </p><p>3:00  Corinth,  Beckmann,  Klee,  Kokashka </p><p>4:00 Museum’s goal to find/research Lost Generation artists </p><p>4:50 Salzburg</p><p>5:00 <em>Using Brush and Paint Against the Time </em></p><p>5:20 Exhibition poster image – 1955 self-portrait by Heinrich Emil Adametz studied at Hamburg School of Arts and Crafts</p><p>5:50 1933 Heinrich Emil Adametz was banned</p><p>6:00 1945 Heinrich Emil Adametz returned to Berlin</p><p>7:00 exhibition on destinies of female artists  </p><p>7:15 Until end of WWI, women were denied access to universities and art colleges</p><p>1933 –  Jacobis refused to close school; fled to NY/re-opened school</p><p>9:30 1889 Felka Platek born in Warsaw</p><p>9:40 1923 - Platek moved to Berlin</p><p>9:50 Nussbaum</p><p>11:45 <em>Felka and Felix</em> </p><p>12:00 Frankfurt artist Hanna Becker Van Rath</p><p>12:40 Van Rath’s Blue House in Germany </p><p>13:00 <em>We Haven’t Seen Each Other In So Long</em>  </p><p>14:00 Provenance research </p><p>14:50 Digitization aids in research </p><p>15:20 Provenance research defines them as a museum </p><p>17:00 sponsoring program</p><p>17:30 Frankfurt Artist Ruth Camp’s portrait of woman</p><p>18:00 Canvases by Heinrich Esser found in attic </p><p>18:20 <em>Three People</em> by Esser</p><p>19:40 Posthumous political Portrait of Dr. Friedrich Maase (1878-1959) by Gert Heinrich Wollheim </p><p>21:00 Female Destinies </p><p>21:45 Future of museum - coming to terms with past by focusing on artists/their fates</p><p>22:30 combines art history with contemporary history </p><p>23:00 Museum to be part of the movement to create justice for these artists </p><p>23:40 visitor comments and press feedback </p><p>25:05 library </p><p>26:00 <em>Meet Me in Paris</em> Exhibition </p><p>27:45 female artists seeking education in Paris</p><p>29:00 Paris co-ed classes</p><p>29:50 nude works by Martha Bernstein and Rudolf Levy</p><p>30:20 Montparnasse cafe scene</p><p>31:15 1933 Paris as a safe haven from National Socialists – life in exile</p><p>32:00 Occupied Paris</p><p>33:20 Russian artist Samuel Granovsky - worked with pastels/spatula</p><p>35:50 Granovsky nicknamed Cowboy of Montparnasse</p><p>36:45 Matisse student Martha Bernstein; 1911 <em>Female Nude in Atelier</em></p><p>38:20 Bernstein became part of Berlin Secession </p><p>38:50 Malweiber (painting women) mocking term for female artists </p><p>40:30 Adolf Da Haer’s 1940 <em>On the Beach;</em> shifted from expressionism to conservative natural approach</p><p>43:45 Mack Koch – ex of inner immigration </p><p>46:45 Koch’s 1930 <em>Woman With Pipe</em></p><p>48:45 Häfner family </p><p>49:55 Herbert Häfner’s 1935 <em>Portrait of Miss Lilo Jüngst</em></p><p>52:35 Ilse Häfner-Mode’s <em>Portrait of a Woman in front of a Wooden Door</em></p><p>54:20 Thomas Häfner’s <em>Fantasy Landscape with Mask</em></p><p>56:00 Ilsa Häfner’s ink drawings while interned </p><p>56:30 feedback<br/><br/></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>To learn more, please visit the website for <a href='https://verlorene-generation.com/en/museum-index/'>Museum Art of the Lost Generation</a>.<br/><br/><b>SHOW NOTES:</b></p><p>2:10 Dr. Böhme&apos;s collection</p><p>2:50 2nd Generation of Modern Artists </p><p>3:00  Corinth,  Beckmann,  Klee,  Kokashka </p><p>4:00 Museum’s goal to find/research Lost Generation artists </p><p>4:50 Salzburg</p><p>5:00 <em>Using Brush and Paint Against the Time </em></p><p>5:20 Exhibition poster image – 1955 self-portrait by Heinrich Emil Adametz studied at Hamburg School of Arts and Crafts</p><p>5:50 1933 Heinrich Emil Adametz was banned</p><p>6:00 1945 Heinrich Emil Adametz returned to Berlin</p><p>7:00 exhibition on destinies of female artists  </p><p>7:15 Until end of WWI, women were denied access to universities and art colleges</p><p>1933 –  Jacobis refused to close school; fled to NY/re-opened school</p><p>9:30 1889 Felka Platek born in Warsaw</p><p>9:40 1923 - Platek moved to Berlin</p><p>9:50 Nussbaum</p><p>11:45 <em>Felka and Felix</em> </p><p>12:00 Frankfurt artist Hanna Becker Van Rath</p><p>12:40 Van Rath’s Blue House in Germany </p><p>13:00 <em>We Haven’t Seen Each Other In So Long</em>  </p><p>14:00 Provenance research </p><p>14:50 Digitization aids in research </p><p>15:20 Provenance research defines them as a museum </p><p>17:00 sponsoring program</p><p>17:30 Frankfurt Artist Ruth Camp’s portrait of woman</p><p>18:00 Canvases by Heinrich Esser found in attic </p><p>18:20 <em>Three People</em> by Esser</p><p>19:40 Posthumous political Portrait of Dr. Friedrich Maase (1878-1959) by Gert Heinrich Wollheim </p><p>21:00 Female Destinies </p><p>21:45 Future of museum - coming to terms with past by focusing on artists/their fates</p><p>22:30 combines art history with contemporary history </p><p>23:00 Museum to be part of the movement to create justice for these artists </p><p>23:40 visitor comments and press feedback </p><p>25:05 library </p><p>26:00 <em>Meet Me in Paris</em> Exhibition </p><p>27:45 female artists seeking education in Paris</p><p>29:00 Paris co-ed classes</p><p>29:50 nude works by Martha Bernstein and Rudolf Levy</p><p>30:20 Montparnasse cafe scene</p><p>31:15 1933 Paris as a safe haven from National Socialists – life in exile</p><p>32:00 Occupied Paris</p><p>33:20 Russian artist Samuel Granovsky - worked with pastels/spatula</p><p>35:50 Granovsky nicknamed Cowboy of Montparnasse</p><p>36:45 Matisse student Martha Bernstein; 1911 <em>Female Nude in Atelier</em></p><p>38:20 Bernstein became part of Berlin Secession </p><p>38:50 Malweiber (painting women) mocking term for female artists </p><p>40:30 Adolf Da Haer’s 1940 <em>On the Beach;</em> shifted from expressionism to conservative natural approach</p><p>43:45 Mack Koch – ex of inner immigration </p><p>46:45 Koch’s 1930 <em>Woman With Pipe</em></p><p>48:45 Häfner family </p><p>49:55 Herbert Häfner’s 1935 <em>Portrait of Miss Lilo Jüngst</em></p><p>52:35 Ilse Häfner-Mode’s <em>Portrait of a Woman in front of a Wooden Door</em></p><p>54:20 Thomas Häfner’s <em>Fantasy Landscape with Mask</em></p><p>56:00 Ilsa Häfner’s ink drawings while interned </p><p>56:30 feedback<br/><br/></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <description><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>The following are links used to prepare this episode:<br/><br/>https://verlorene-generation.com/en/kuenstler/berg-else/<br/><br/><a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Else_Berg'>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Else_Berg</a></p><p><a href='http://www.arthurkampf.de/biographie/arthur-kampf-biographie_en.html'><b>http://www.arthurkampf.de/biographie/arthur-kampf-biographie_en.html</b></a></p><p><a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mommie_Schwarz'><b>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mommie_Schwarz</b></a><b><br/><br/></b>To view rewards for supporting the podcast, please visit <a href='https://www.patreon.com/warfareofartandlaw'>Warfare&apos;s Patreon page</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast, please email Stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2022]</p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>The following are links used to prepare this episode:<br/><br/>https://verlorene-generation.com/en/kuenstler/berg-else/<br/><br/><a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Else_Berg'>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Else_Berg</a></p><p><a href='http://www.arthurkampf.de/biographie/arthur-kampf-biographie_en.html'><b>http://www.arthurkampf.de/biographie/arthur-kampf-biographie_en.html</b></a></p><p><a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mommie_Schwarz'><b>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mommie_Schwarz</b></a><b><br/><br/></b>To view rewards for supporting the podcast, please visit <a href='https://www.patreon.com/warfareofartandlaw'>Warfare&apos;s Patreon page</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast, please email Stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2022]</p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Send us Fan Mail Cover image: Ben Kinmont and the Antinomian Press at Section Seven Books, Paris, printing Project Series: Lee Lozano.  For more information, please visit the websites for Antinomian Press, Ben Kinmont Bookseller, Ben Kinmont's projects and his gallery page.  SHOW NOTES: 0:00 artist / attorney collaboration 3:30 initial art practice in NYC  3:50  work with antiquarian bookseller focused on medicine/science 4:20 antiquarian bookselling business - Sometimes a nicer scu...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>Cover image: Ben Kinmont and the Antinomian Press at Section Seven Books, Paris, printing <em>Project Series: Lee Lozano</em>.<br/><br/>For more information, please visit the websites for <a href='https://www.antinomianpress.org'>Antinomian Press</a>, <a href='https://kinmont.com'>Ben Kinmont Bookseller</a>, <a href='https://benkinmont.com'>Ben Kinmont&apos;s projects</a> and his <a href='http://www.airdeparis.com/artists/ben-kinmont/'>gallery page</a>.<br/><br/>SHOW NOTES:</p><p>0:00 artist / attorney collaboration</p><p>3:30 initial art practice in NYC </p><p>3:50  work with antiquarian bookseller focused on medicine/science</p><p>4:20 antiquarian bookselling business - <em>Sometimes a nicer sculpture is to be able to provide a living for your family</em></p><p>5:00 Occupational realism - term by Julia Bryant Wilson</p><p>5:35 Kinmont’s practice included painting, video, sculpture, photography </p><p>5:50 NYC/Cologne street project <b><em>I am for you, ich bin fur sie</em></b> - 3  sculptures</p><p>6:15 “The Social Sculpture” - Joseph Beuys</p><p>6:40 ‘The Thinking Sculpture’ - William James </p><p>7:10 cognitive process as a sculptural process</p><p>7:25 “The Third Sculpture”</p><p>8:00 <em>I Am For You</em> </p><p>9:00 Christo’s public projects about conversations with farmers/coastal commission </p><p>10:35 <em>The Materialization of Life Into Alternative Economies </em></p><p>11:45 Antinomian Press </p><p>14:40 economic precarity subtheme</p><p>15:10 theme of art in everyday life, what we can and can’t call art</p><p>16:00 Borders of what can and cannot be called art </p><p>17:45 NYU Draper Institute lecture to grad class of anthropology </p><p>19:00 cultural differences in interviewing NYC and Cologne individuals</p><p>21:15 archives of his projects led to his interest in contracts and <em>Promised Relations: or, thoughts on a few artists’ contracts</em>? </p><p>24:20 Tilted Arc contract </p><p>24:30 Felix Gonzalez-Torres’ certificates</p><p>25:30 Kinmont’s contract</p><p>25:40 Attorney Jerry Ordover</p><p>25:55 Seth Seigelab and Bob Projansky artist contract</p><p>29:45 MoMA Department of Prints and Drawing’s purchase of Antinomian Press archive</p><p>31:40 why artists shy from contracts</p><p>36:45 circa 1990 - Trust as Sculpture – strangers invited to waffle breakfast in Kinmont’s home </p><p>38:15 understand history to create discourse around your experience</p><p>40:00 feedback from <em>An Exhibition In Your Mouth</em></p><p>41:45 social/political meaning behind the study of gastronomy</p><p>42:50 Inter-sectionality of gastronomy with women’s studies, economic history, ethnography, class, medicine, health</p><p>44:40 <em>Gastronomy and Economic Precarity</em></p><p>45:50 FBI’s attacks on the Black Panther’s Free Breakfast Programs</p><p>46:50 San Quintin death row inmate’s inquiry about publishing  Death Row Cookbook</p><p>48:50 his projects addressing injustice  </p><p>50:25 <em>Ethical Considerations in Project Art Practice </em></p><p>51:10 justice <br/><br/>51:50<em> </em>2011 <em>Carl Andre Killed His Wife</em> Ana Mendieta</p><p>53:00 Olivier Mosset bought and later returned it</p><p>54:25 Andre’s involvement in Art Workers Coalition Group/work using proletariat mater<br/><br/><br/></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>Cover image: Ben Kinmont and the Antinomian Press at Section Seven Books, Paris, printing <em>Project Series: Lee Lozano</em>.<br/><br/>For more information, please visit the websites for <a href='https://www.antinomianpress.org'>Antinomian Press</a>, <a href='https://kinmont.com'>Ben Kinmont Bookseller</a>, <a href='https://benkinmont.com'>Ben Kinmont&apos;s projects</a> and his <a href='http://www.airdeparis.com/artists/ben-kinmont/'>gallery page</a>.<br/><br/>SHOW NOTES:</p><p>0:00 artist / attorney collaboration</p><p>3:30 initial art practice in NYC </p><p>3:50  work with antiquarian bookseller focused on medicine/science</p><p>4:20 antiquarian bookselling business - <em>Sometimes a nicer sculpture is to be able to provide a living for your family</em></p><p>5:00 Occupational realism - term by Julia Bryant Wilson</p><p>5:35 Kinmont’s practice included painting, video, sculpture, photography </p><p>5:50 NYC/Cologne street project <b><em>I am for you, ich bin fur sie</em></b> - 3  sculptures</p><p>6:15 “The Social Sculpture” - Joseph Beuys</p><p>6:40 ‘The Thinking Sculpture’ - William James </p><p>7:10 cognitive process as a sculptural process</p><p>7:25 “The Third Sculpture”</p><p>8:00 <em>I Am For You</em> </p><p>9:00 Christo’s public projects about conversations with farmers/coastal commission </p><p>10:35 <em>The Materialization of Life Into Alternative Economies </em></p><p>11:45 Antinomian Press </p><p>14:40 economic precarity subtheme</p><p>15:10 theme of art in everyday life, what we can and can’t call art</p><p>16:00 Borders of what can and cannot be called art </p><p>17:45 NYU Draper Institute lecture to grad class of anthropology </p><p>19:00 cultural differences in interviewing NYC and Cologne individuals</p><p>21:15 archives of his projects led to his interest in contracts and <em>Promised Relations: or, thoughts on a few artists’ contracts</em>? </p><p>24:20 Tilted Arc contract </p><p>24:30 Felix Gonzalez-Torres’ certificates</p><p>25:30 Kinmont’s contract</p><p>25:40 Attorney Jerry Ordover</p><p>25:55 Seth Seigelab and Bob Projansky artist contract</p><p>29:45 MoMA Department of Prints and Drawing’s purchase of Antinomian Press archive</p><p>31:40 why artists shy from contracts</p><p>36:45 circa 1990 - Trust as Sculpture – strangers invited to waffle breakfast in Kinmont’s home </p><p>38:15 understand history to create discourse around your experience</p><p>40:00 feedback from <em>An Exhibition In Your Mouth</em></p><p>41:45 social/political meaning behind the study of gastronomy</p><p>42:50 Inter-sectionality of gastronomy with women’s studies, economic history, ethnography, class, medicine, health</p><p>44:40 <em>Gastronomy and Economic Precarity</em></p><p>45:50 FBI’s attacks on the Black Panther’s Free Breakfast Programs</p><p>46:50 San Quintin death row inmate’s inquiry about publishing  Death Row Cookbook</p><p>48:50 his projects addressing injustice  </p><p>50:25 <em>Ethical Considerations in Project Art Practice </em></p><p>51:10 justice <br/><br/>51:50<em> </em>2011 <em>Carl Andre Killed His Wife</em> Ana Mendieta</p><p>53:00 Olivier Mosset bought and later returned it</p><p>54:25 Andre’s involvement in Art Workers Coalition Group/work using proletariat mater<br/><br/><br/></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Send us Fan Mail Cover Image: "The Boardroom Was Taken", oil on aluminum, 28"x22" Copyright Stefania Salles Bruins 2022.    Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com  Music by Toulme.  To hear more episodes, please visit Warfare of Art and Law podcast's website.  To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at steph...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>Cover Image: &quot;The Boardroom Was Taken&quot;, oil on aluminum, 28&quot;x22&quot; Copyright <a href='https://www.stefaniasallesbruins.com'>Stefania Salles Bruins</a> 2022.<br/><br/><br/></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>Cover Image: &quot;The Boardroom Was Taken&quot;, oil on aluminum, 28&quot;x22&quot; Copyright <a href='https://www.stefaniasallesbruins.com'>Stefania Salles Bruins</a> 2022.<br/><br/><br/></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Send us Fan Mail Please visit the following links to learn more: Shahn’s sketches for Rikers Island; Correctional History discussion of Shahn;  Lucienne Bloch, Cycle of a Woman’s Life: Childhood:  Shahn’s photo of an incarcerated painter at Blackwell’s Island;  Larry Cook, The Visiting Room and Urban Landscapes; Groundswell murals at Rikers;  Handwritten survey responses in the Shahn Papers at the Archives of American Art. SHOW NOTES: 2:00 Ben Shahn’s and Lou Block’s proposed Rikers Isla...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>Please visit the following links to learn more:<br/><a href='https://harvardartmuseums.org/collections?q=ben+shahn+rikers'>Shahn’s sketches for Rikers Island</a>;<br/><a href='http://www.correctionhistory.org/benshahn/benshahn_rikers1.html'>Correctional History discussion of Shahn</a>; <br/><a href='https://wolfsonian.org/blog/2021/10/'>Lucienne Bloch, <em>Cycle of a Woman’s Life: Childhood</em>:</a> <em><br/></em><a href='https://harvardartmuseums.org/collections/object/301959?position=0'>Shahn’s photo of an incarcerated painter at Blackwell’s Island</a>; <br/><a href='https://www.larrywcook.com/the-visiting-room'>Larry Cook, <em>The Visiting Room</em> and <em>Urban Landscapes</em></a><em>;<br/></em><a href='https://www.groundswell.nyc/projects/this-too-shall-pass-319'>Groundswell murals at Rikers</a>; <br/><a href='https://www.aaa.si.edu/collections/ben-shahn-papers-6935/series-2/box-21-folder-15.'>Handwritten survey responses in the Shahn Papers at the Archives of American Art</a>.</p><p>SHOW NOTES:<br/>2:00 Ben Shahn’s and Lou Block’s proposed Rikers Island Penitentiary murals for the New Deal </p><p>4:45 West wall’s mural representing prison reform</p><p>6:05 East wall’s mural of prisons in need of reform</p><p>8:20 New York’s Municipal Art Commission rejects murals as psychologically unfit for prisoners and as anti-social propaganda </p><p>9:00 1935 survey of Blackwell Island prisoners about murals</p><p>11:35 one incarcerated man likened Shahn’s murals to Diego Rivera’s Rockefeller Center mural</p><p>12:40 concerns about making incarcerated life a spectacle</p><p>14:10 responses by Ben Shahn and Lou Block to survey</p><p>17:20 utility of survey for art historians</p><p>19:10 survey archive</p><p>21:30 <em>Ben Shahn’s New Deal Murals: Jewish Identity in the American Scene</em> by Diana Linden</p><p>22:10 <em>Ben Shahn’s New York</em> by Harvard Art Musuems</p><p>22:50 <em>Art for the Millions: Essays from the 1930s by artists and administrators of the WPA Project</em> by Francis O’Connor includes material from Lucienne Bloch</p><p>23:10 Bloch’s “Cycle of a Woman’s Life” accepted for WPA Project in 1935</p><p>23:50 Bloch’s primary sources quote from letters by incarcerated females </p><p>29:30 Harold Lehman’s <em>Man’s Daily Bread</em> erected at Rikers and later removed</p><p>35:20 Faith Ringgold’s 1971 <em>For the Women’s House</em></p><p>37:00 Reception to Ringgold’s For the Women’s House by male incarcerated population </p><p>38:45 2012 <em>Prison Landscapes</em> by Alyse Emdur</p><p>42:10 Antoine Ealy’s opinion of prison landscapes</p><p>43:20 utility of murals in correctional institutions</p><p>44:15 Nicole Fleetwood’s book and exhibition <em>Marking Time: Art in the Age of Mass Incarceration</em></p><p>45:00 Shahn’s photograph of incarcerated man painting portrait at Blackwell’s Island </p><p>47:30 Utility of art as a direct and didactic tool </p><p>51:00 how a focus on art in correction facilities aids in facilitating justice </p><p>56:00 Marking Time includes incarcerated and non-incarcerated artists</p><p>56:20 Artist Larry Cook</p><p> 57:30 Groundswell NYC</p><p>58:20 How Nowocki defines justice </p><p>59:20 Mariame Kaba’s view of justice in terms of accountability as compared with punishment<br/><br/></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>Please visit the following links to learn more:<br/><a href='https://harvardartmuseums.org/collections?q=ben+shahn+rikers'>Shahn’s sketches for Rikers Island</a>;<br/><a href='http://www.correctionhistory.org/benshahn/benshahn_rikers1.html'>Correctional History discussion of Shahn</a>; <br/><a href='https://wolfsonian.org/blog/2021/10/'>Lucienne Bloch, <em>Cycle of a Woman’s Life: Childhood</em>:</a> <em><br/></em><a href='https://harvardartmuseums.org/collections/object/301959?position=0'>Shahn’s photo of an incarcerated painter at Blackwell’s Island</a>; <br/><a href='https://www.larrywcook.com/the-visiting-room'>Larry Cook, <em>The Visiting Room</em> and <em>Urban Landscapes</em></a><em>;<br/></em><a href='https://www.groundswell.nyc/projects/this-too-shall-pass-319'>Groundswell murals at Rikers</a>; <br/><a href='https://www.aaa.si.edu/collections/ben-shahn-papers-6935/series-2/box-21-folder-15.'>Handwritten survey responses in the Shahn Papers at the Archives of American Art</a>.</p><p>SHOW NOTES:<br/>2:00 Ben Shahn’s and Lou Block’s proposed Rikers Island Penitentiary murals for the New Deal </p><p>4:45 West wall’s mural representing prison reform</p><p>6:05 East wall’s mural of prisons in need of reform</p><p>8:20 New York’s Municipal Art Commission rejects murals as psychologically unfit for prisoners and as anti-social propaganda </p><p>9:00 1935 survey of Blackwell Island prisoners about murals</p><p>11:35 one incarcerated man likened Shahn’s murals to Diego Rivera’s Rockefeller Center mural</p><p>12:40 concerns about making incarcerated life a spectacle</p><p>14:10 responses by Ben Shahn and Lou Block to survey</p><p>17:20 utility of survey for art historians</p><p>19:10 survey archive</p><p>21:30 <em>Ben Shahn’s New Deal Murals: Jewish Identity in the American Scene</em> by Diana Linden</p><p>22:10 <em>Ben Shahn’s New York</em> by Harvard Art Musuems</p><p>22:50 <em>Art for the Millions: Essays from the 1930s by artists and administrators of the WPA Project</em> by Francis O’Connor includes material from Lucienne Bloch</p><p>23:10 Bloch’s “Cycle of a Woman’s Life” accepted for WPA Project in 1935</p><p>23:50 Bloch’s primary sources quote from letters by incarcerated females </p><p>29:30 Harold Lehman’s <em>Man’s Daily Bread</em> erected at Rikers and later removed</p><p>35:20 Faith Ringgold’s 1971 <em>For the Women’s House</em></p><p>37:00 Reception to Ringgold’s For the Women’s House by male incarcerated population </p><p>38:45 2012 <em>Prison Landscapes</em> by Alyse Emdur</p><p>42:10 Antoine Ealy’s opinion of prison landscapes</p><p>43:20 utility of murals in correctional institutions</p><p>44:15 Nicole Fleetwood’s book and exhibition <em>Marking Time: Art in the Age of Mass Incarceration</em></p><p>45:00 Shahn’s photograph of incarcerated man painting portrait at Blackwell’s Island </p><p>47:30 Utility of art as a direct and didactic tool </p><p>51:00 how a focus on art in correction facilities aids in facilitating justice </p><p>56:00 Marking Time includes incarcerated and non-incarcerated artists</p><p>56:20 Artist Larry Cook</p><p> 57:30 Groundswell NYC</p><p>58:20 How Nowocki defines justice </p><p>59:20 Mariame Kaba’s view of justice in terms of accountability as compared with punishment<br/><br/></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <title>Scrivener&#39;s Gazette Bonus - Artist Elfriede Lohse-Wächtler</title>
    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Send us Fan Mail Nothing But Art by Regine Sondermann and the following links were used in preparation of this episode:  https://www.lostwomenart.de/en/artist/elfriede-lohse-wachtler/ https://womeningermanexpressionism.com/2018/07/11/elfriede-lohse-wachtler/ https://gseart.com/artist/elfriede-lohse-wachtler/bio  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4heWql2celU     Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com  Music by Toulme.  To hear more episodes, please visit ...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p><em>Nothing But Art</em> by Regine Sondermann and the following links were used in preparation of this episode:<br/><br/><a href='https://www.lostwomenart.de/en/artist/elfriede-lohse-wachtler/'>https://www.lostwomenart.de/en/artist/elfriede-lohse-wachtler/</a></p><p><a href='https://womeningermanexpressionism.com/2018/07/11/elfriede-lohse-wachtler/'>https://womeningermanexpressionism.com/2018/07/11/elfriede-lohse-wachtler/</a></p><p><a href='https://gseart.com/artist/elfriede-lohse-wachtler/bio'>https://gseart.com/artist/elfriede-lohse-wachtler/bio</a><br/><br/>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4heWql2celU<br/><br/></p><p><br/></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p><em>Nothing But Art</em> by Regine Sondermann and the following links were used in preparation of this episode:<br/><br/><a href='https://www.lostwomenart.de/en/artist/elfriede-lohse-wachtler/'>https://www.lostwomenart.de/en/artist/elfriede-lohse-wachtler/</a></p><p><a href='https://womeningermanexpressionism.com/2018/07/11/elfriede-lohse-wachtler/'>https://womeningermanexpressionism.com/2018/07/11/elfriede-lohse-wachtler/</a></p><p><a href='https://gseart.com/artist/elfriede-lohse-wachtler/bio'>https://gseart.com/artist/elfriede-lohse-wachtler/bio</a><br/><br/>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4heWql2celU<br/><br/></p><p><br/></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Send us Fan Mail Cover photo of Miki Garcia by Alonso Parra.  Please visit the website for Undoing Time: Art and Histories of Incarceration at ASU's Art Museum and at Berkeley Art Museum to learn more.  1:30 ASU Art Museum’s mission as a learning institution that centers art and artists in the service of social good and community well-being 2:40 inspiration for Undoing Time: Art and Histories of Incarceration exhibition as a cultural mark in time for ASU Art Museum  6:40 effort to a...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>Cover photo of Miki Garcia by Alonso Parra.<br/><br/>Please visit the website for <a href='https://community.asu.edu/content/undoing-time-art-and-histories-incarceration-16'><em>Undoing Time: Art and Histories of Incarceration</em> at ASU&apos;s Art Museum</a> and at <a href='https://bampfa.org/program/undoing-time-art-and-histories-incarceration'>Berkeley Art Museum</a> to learn more.<br/><br/>1:30 ASU Art Museum’s mission as a learning institution that centers art and artists in the service of social good and community well-being</p><p>2:40 inspiration for <em>Undoing Time: Art and Histories of Incarceration</em> exhibition as a cultural mark in time for ASU Art Museum </p><p>6:40 effort to address all dimensions of an exhibition on mass incarceration and its impact on viewers</p><p>8:00 Art for Justice Fund’s involvement in exhibition </p><p>9:05 prior exhibition with artist Gregory Sale who worked with incarcerated populations</p><p>9:15 Contemporary Art Museum Houston and Nicole Fleetwood’s work with the <em>Walls Turned Sideways: Artists Confront the Justice System</em> exhibition </p><p>10:20 Undoing Time’s focus began with a survey of how incarceration has been portrayed through images from the 18th Century Code of Hammurabi forward</p><p>11:30 12 artists invited to create commissions for Undoing Time, including Mario Ybarra, Jr. who created a pizza parlor vignette that dealt with Ybarra’s childhood friend Richard who later was incarcerated on a murder charge<br/><br/>13:20 rehabilitation was shown in Ybarra’s work that’s not shown in historical images of incarceration </p><p>13:55 Stephanie Syjuco’s commission abstracted images of black and brown incarcerated population</p><p>15:10 Juan Brenner’s commission about the Guatemalan Highlands and how the U.S. West Coast prison system gang culture was exported to Central America</p><p>16:10 destruction of Guatemalan Highlands’ residence due to erection of prison that houses Mara Salvatrucha gang</p><p>17:25 architecture of prisons, e.g, the panopticon, the fortress</p><p>18:00 Indigenous artists Raven Chacon and Cannupa Hanska Luger </p><p>19:15 Luger’s commission focus on the relationship of land to mass incarceration</p><p>19:25 Mass Liberation Arizona’s mission of people over property</p><p>21:00 Theater maker and Playwright Michael Rohd choreographed going through the exhibition </p><p>22:55 Raven Chacon’s musical composition about a juvenile detention center</p><p>24:10 Rohd’s positing of questions and cards for viewer feedback </p><p>26:45 Art for Justice Fund to ASU poet Natalie Diaz and the Center for Imagination in the Borderlands</p><p>30:00 undergoing critique of the purpose and operation of museums </p><p>33:30 museums are civic institutions of dialogue, engagement and storytelling and should be responsible to the communities they serve</p><p>35:30 art’s power to challenge inherited narratives about incarceration </p><p>37:15 how she sees her legacy to eliminate as many boundaries as possible and uphold all kinds of art forms and include more voices and to open up what a museum can be and who it’s actually for</p><p>39:20 evolution of her definition of justice </p><p>40:45 justice has to be fought for </p><p>40:55 justice as public love<br/><br/><br/></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>Cover photo of Miki Garcia by Alonso Parra.<br/><br/>Please visit the website for <a href='https://community.asu.edu/content/undoing-time-art-and-histories-incarceration-16'><em>Undoing Time: Art and Histories of Incarceration</em> at ASU&apos;s Art Museum</a> and at <a href='https://bampfa.org/program/undoing-time-art-and-histories-incarceration'>Berkeley Art Museum</a> to learn more.<br/><br/>1:30 ASU Art Museum’s mission as a learning institution that centers art and artists in the service of social good and community well-being</p><p>2:40 inspiration for <em>Undoing Time: Art and Histories of Incarceration</em> exhibition as a cultural mark in time for ASU Art Museum </p><p>6:40 effort to address all dimensions of an exhibition on mass incarceration and its impact on viewers</p><p>8:00 Art for Justice Fund’s involvement in exhibition </p><p>9:05 prior exhibition with artist Gregory Sale who worked with incarcerated populations</p><p>9:15 Contemporary Art Museum Houston and Nicole Fleetwood’s work with the <em>Walls Turned Sideways: Artists Confront the Justice System</em> exhibition </p><p>10:20 Undoing Time’s focus began with a survey of how incarceration has been portrayed through images from the 18th Century Code of Hammurabi forward</p><p>11:30 12 artists invited to create commissions for Undoing Time, including Mario Ybarra, Jr. who created a pizza parlor vignette that dealt with Ybarra’s childhood friend Richard who later was incarcerated on a murder charge<br/><br/>13:20 rehabilitation was shown in Ybarra’s work that’s not shown in historical images of incarceration </p><p>13:55 Stephanie Syjuco’s commission abstracted images of black and brown incarcerated population</p><p>15:10 Juan Brenner’s commission about the Guatemalan Highlands and how the U.S. West Coast prison system gang culture was exported to Central America</p><p>16:10 destruction of Guatemalan Highlands’ residence due to erection of prison that houses Mara Salvatrucha gang</p><p>17:25 architecture of prisons, e.g, the panopticon, the fortress</p><p>18:00 Indigenous artists Raven Chacon and Cannupa Hanska Luger </p><p>19:15 Luger’s commission focus on the relationship of land to mass incarceration</p><p>19:25 Mass Liberation Arizona’s mission of people over property</p><p>21:00 Theater maker and Playwright Michael Rohd choreographed going through the exhibition </p><p>22:55 Raven Chacon’s musical composition about a juvenile detention center</p><p>24:10 Rohd’s positing of questions and cards for viewer feedback </p><p>26:45 Art for Justice Fund to ASU poet Natalie Diaz and the Center for Imagination in the Borderlands</p><p>30:00 undergoing critique of the purpose and operation of museums </p><p>33:30 museums are civic institutions of dialogue, engagement and storytelling and should be responsible to the communities they serve</p><p>35:30 art’s power to challenge inherited narratives about incarceration </p><p>37:15 how she sees her legacy to eliminate as many boundaries as possible and uphold all kinds of art forms and include more voices and to open up what a museum can be and who it’s actually for</p><p>39:20 evolution of her definition of justice </p><p>40:45 justice has to be fought for </p><p>40:55 justice as public love<br/><br/><br/></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Send us Fan Mail The featured image is titled Peggy Cooper Cafritz (2020), acrylic on canvas, 16"x20", Gina McKlveen. Image: © and TM Gina McKlveen. All rights reserved.  Peggy Cooper Cafritz grew up in Mobile, Alabama under Jim Crow laws during the days of racial segregation in the Southern United States of America. She moved to Washington, DC in 1964 to attend college at The George Washington University, where she was instrumental in creating organizations for Black students on campus. Cont...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><blockquote>The featured image is titled <em>Peggy Cooper Cafritz</em> (2020), acrylic on canvas, 16&quot;x20&quot;, Gina McKlveen. Image: © and TM Gina McKlveen. All rights reserved.<br/><br/>Peggy Cooper Cafritz grew up in Mobile, Alabama under Jim Crow laws during the days of racial segregation in the Southern United States of America. She moved to Washington, DC in 1964 to attend college at The George Washington University, where she was instrumental in creating organizations for Black students on campus. Continuing her education at George Washington University Law School, she graduated with her Juris Doctor degree in 1971. Cafritz was significantly involved in the arts community while she was a student, serving on boards, chairing committees, and planning several festivals in the nation&apos;s capital. However, Cafritz solidified her support for the arts when she co-founded the Duke Ellington School of the Arts, a public high school located in Washington, DC that focuses on arts education. Throughout her lifetime, Cafritz developed an extensive art collection primarily of works by artists of African descent as a means to address the absence and confront the erasure of Black history in the United States. She passed away in 2018, gifting portions of her art collection between the Duke Ellington School of the Arts in DC and the Studio Museum in Harlem, NY. </blockquote><p><br/><br/></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><blockquote>The featured image is titled <em>Peggy Cooper Cafritz</em> (2020), acrylic on canvas, 16&quot;x20&quot;, Gina McKlveen. Image: © and TM Gina McKlveen. All rights reserved.<br/><br/>Peggy Cooper Cafritz grew up in Mobile, Alabama under Jim Crow laws during the days of racial segregation in the Southern United States of America. She moved to Washington, DC in 1964 to attend college at The George Washington University, where she was instrumental in creating organizations for Black students on campus. Continuing her education at George Washington University Law School, she graduated with her Juris Doctor degree in 1971. Cafritz was significantly involved in the arts community while she was a student, serving on boards, chairing committees, and planning several festivals in the nation&apos;s capital. However, Cafritz solidified her support for the arts when she co-founded the Duke Ellington School of the Arts, a public high school located in Washington, DC that focuses on arts education. Throughout her lifetime, Cafritz developed an extensive art collection primarily of works by artists of African descent as a means to address the absence and confront the erasure of Black history in the United States. She passed away in 2018, gifting portions of her art collection between the Duke Ellington School of the Arts in DC and the Studio Museum in Harlem, NY. </blockquote><p><br/><br/></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <itunes:title>Glance at Culture - Dr. Henry Greenspan On Listening to Holocaust Survivors, Memory, Psychology, the Warsaw Ghetto and Minimalist Theatre</itunes:title>
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    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Send us Fan Mail Please visit Dr. Greenspan's website to learn more.  Show Notes: 00:00 impression of survivor about Greenspan’s representation of their story  03:00 1970s interview for psychologist  04:20 depth rather than breadth of his interviews with Holocaust survivors 6:25 collaborative meetings with survivors 7:00 Agi Rubin described good interviews as learning together 9:00 Process of creating courses, books, plays from conversations with survivors 13:45 Greenspan’s disserta...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>Please visit Dr. Greenspan&apos;s<a href='http://www.henrygreenspan.com'> website</a> to learn more.<br/><br/>Show Notes:</p><p>00:00 impression of survivor about Greenspan’s representation of their story </p><p>03:00 1970s interview for psychologist </p><p>04:20 depth rather than breadth of his interviews with Holocaust survivors</p><p>6:25 collaborative meetings with survivors</p><p>7:00 Agi Rubin described good interviews as learning together</p><p>9:00 Process of creating courses, books, plays from conversations with survivors</p><p>13:45 Greenspan’s dissertation topic on this became his life’s work</p><p>15:10 Agi Rubin: I’m not a “Survivor” as a category.</p><p>18:35 <a href='https://www.henrygreenspan.com/_i_on_listening_to_holocaust_survivors__beyond_testimony__i__46007.htm'><em>On Listening to Holocaust Survivors: Beyond Testimony</em></a></p><p>19:00 Leon’s recollection of murder of Paul Lieberman</p><p>22:10 Leon’s correction that his recollection is not a story; it must be made a story</p><p>25:30 <em>Remnants</em>  </p><p>29:50 <em>Reflections: Auschwitz, Memory and a Life Recreated</em></p><p>35:40 <em>Death/Play or the Mad Jester of the Warsaw Ghetto</em></p><p>41:20 source material for <em>Death/Play or the Mad Jester of the Warsaw Ghetto</em></p><p>44:40 short play <em>Gravediggers</em> involving the Ukraine </p><p>47:20 Greenspan’s view of injustice </p><p>48:00 His work is ‘disposable people’ studies</p><p>49:40 Corruption</p><p>53:00 what we do together is where hope is</p><p>53:45 per Agi Rubin, legacy is not up to her</p><p><br/></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>Please visit Dr. Greenspan&apos;s<a href='http://www.henrygreenspan.com'> website</a> to learn more.<br/><br/>Show Notes:</p><p>00:00 impression of survivor about Greenspan’s representation of their story </p><p>03:00 1970s interview for psychologist </p><p>04:20 depth rather than breadth of his interviews with Holocaust survivors</p><p>6:25 collaborative meetings with survivors</p><p>7:00 Agi Rubin described good interviews as learning together</p><p>9:00 Process of creating courses, books, plays from conversations with survivors</p><p>13:45 Greenspan’s dissertation topic on this became his life’s work</p><p>15:10 Agi Rubin: I’m not a “Survivor” as a category.</p><p>18:35 <a href='https://www.henrygreenspan.com/_i_on_listening_to_holocaust_survivors__beyond_testimony__i__46007.htm'><em>On Listening to Holocaust Survivors: Beyond Testimony</em></a></p><p>19:00 Leon’s recollection of murder of Paul Lieberman</p><p>22:10 Leon’s correction that his recollection is not a story; it must be made a story</p><p>25:30 <em>Remnants</em>  </p><p>29:50 <em>Reflections: Auschwitz, Memory and a Life Recreated</em></p><p>35:40 <em>Death/Play or the Mad Jester of the Warsaw Ghetto</em></p><p>41:20 source material for <em>Death/Play or the Mad Jester of the Warsaw Ghetto</em></p><p>44:40 short play <em>Gravediggers</em> involving the Ukraine </p><p>47:20 Greenspan’s view of injustice </p><p>48:00 His work is ‘disposable people’ studies</p><p>49:40 Corruption</p><p>53:00 what we do together is where hope is</p><p>53:45 per Agi Rubin, legacy is not up to her</p><p><br/></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Send us Fan Mail This episode was prepared with information included here.     Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com  Music by Toulme.  To hear more episodes, please visit Warfare of Art and Law podcast's website.  To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com.   Thanks so...]]></itunes:summary>
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    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Send us Fan Mail For those interested in obtaining a copy of Contested Heritage Removing Art From Land and Historic Buildings by Richard Harwood QC, Catherine Dobson and David Sawtell, please visit the publisher’s website and use code P8W4VZ for a 10% discount.  Show Notes: 00:00 overview of Contested Heritage – Removing Art From Land and Historic Buildings 2:10 Lucien Freud mural of flower; removed from a house that was a listed building 3:14 Rustat Memorial plaque at Jesus College chapel 5:...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>For those interested in obtaining a copy of <em>Contested Heritage Removing Art From Land and Historic Buildings </em>by Richard Harwood QC, Catherine Dobson and David Sawtell, please visit the <a href='http://www.lawbriefpublishing.com/product/contestedheritage/ '>publisher’s website</a> and use code P8W4VZ for a 10% discount.<br/><br/>Show Notes:<br/>00:00 overview of <em>Contested Heritage – Removing Art From Land and Historic Buildings</em></p><p>2:10 Lucien Freud mural of flower; removed from a house that was a listed building</p><p>3:14 Rustat Memorial plaque at Jesus College chapel</p><p>5:00 What is meant by contested heritage</p><p>5:50 co-authors Catherine Dobson and David Sawtell</p><p>6:00 dispute over public memorialization of certain person/events </p><p>8:20 whether work is part of building/who owns/to what extent it’s subject to listed building control</p><p>9:05 <em>Dill</em> case</p><p>10:15 pair of 18th C. lead urns by Flemish sculptor John van Nost in Wrest Park</p><p>12:00 2015 - planning authority learn urns not at Idlicote House; issue enforcement notice for their return</p><p>17:20 regulatory issues/export licensing </p><p>17:50 property ownership</p><p>19:00 Old Flo case</p><p>19:30 <em>London Borough of Tower Hamlets v. London Borough of Bromley</em></p><p>19:40 Henry Moore statue <em>Draped Seated Woman</em></p><p>21:20 purpose of annexation </p><p>27:00 listed building control</p><p>28:00 main considerations for authorities faced with application for removal of contested statue or other memorial or work of art</p><p>29:00 for listed buildings, strong presumption to protect special architectural/historic interest </p><p>30:00 Public Sector Equality Duty</p><p>31:00 Jen Reid statute appeal</p><p>32:35 Rustat Memorial case </p><p>37:40 Colston case </p><p>38:40 Colston – late 17th C. deputy governor of Royal African Company ran slave trade/benefactor of Bristol</p><p>40:45 ‘Colston 4’ trial – individuals charged with criminal damage/acquitted</p><p>41:00 acquittal now on appeal by Attorney General’s reference on lawfulness of some lines of defence run, including question of right to freedom of expression and extent that can justify attacking property</p><p>41:45 ‘retain and explain’ policy</p><p>43:10 changes to planning and listed building procedures </p><p>44:35 Cecil Rhodes statues and other memorials in Oxford</p><p>46:35 Rhodes commemorative plaque in Oxford recently listed by Secretary of State </p><p>46:45 increased public awareness about these issues </p><p>47:15 Arts education charity, Art UK recent catalogue of 13,500 British public sculpture - only 2% commemorate people of colour</p><p>48:35 public art </p><p>49:45 Old Flo example of post-war public authority support for public art</p><p>50:00 developers recently encouraged to include public art, e.g., Desert Quartet Sculptures by Dame Elisabeth Frink placed in back of Worthing shopping center and now a listed building</p><p>51:50 Ulster Defence Regiment memorial in Lisburn, N. Ireland includes a female </p><p>53:00 National Windrush Monument in Waterloo Station commemorates arrival of Caribbean migrants after WWII</p><p>54:20 political issues about colonialism and empire involved with cultural heritage dispute</p><p><br/></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>For those interested in obtaining a copy of <em>Contested Heritage Removing Art From Land and Historic Buildings </em>by Richard Harwood QC, Catherine Dobson and David Sawtell, please visit the <a href='http://www.lawbriefpublishing.com/product/contestedheritage/ '>publisher’s website</a> and use code P8W4VZ for a 10% discount.<br/><br/>Show Notes:<br/>00:00 overview of <em>Contested Heritage – Removing Art From Land and Historic Buildings</em></p><p>2:10 Lucien Freud mural of flower; removed from a house that was a listed building</p><p>3:14 Rustat Memorial plaque at Jesus College chapel</p><p>5:00 What is meant by contested heritage</p><p>5:50 co-authors Catherine Dobson and David Sawtell</p><p>6:00 dispute over public memorialization of certain person/events </p><p>8:20 whether work is part of building/who owns/to what extent it’s subject to listed building control</p><p>9:05 <em>Dill</em> case</p><p>10:15 pair of 18th C. lead urns by Flemish sculptor John van Nost in Wrest Park</p><p>12:00 2015 - planning authority learn urns not at Idlicote House; issue enforcement notice for their return</p><p>17:20 regulatory issues/export licensing </p><p>17:50 property ownership</p><p>19:00 Old Flo case</p><p>19:30 <em>London Borough of Tower Hamlets v. London Borough of Bromley</em></p><p>19:40 Henry Moore statue <em>Draped Seated Woman</em></p><p>21:20 purpose of annexation </p><p>27:00 listed building control</p><p>28:00 main considerations for authorities faced with application for removal of contested statue or other memorial or work of art</p><p>29:00 for listed buildings, strong presumption to protect special architectural/historic interest </p><p>30:00 Public Sector Equality Duty</p><p>31:00 Jen Reid statute appeal</p><p>32:35 Rustat Memorial case </p><p>37:40 Colston case </p><p>38:40 Colston – late 17th C. deputy governor of Royal African Company ran slave trade/benefactor of Bristol</p><p>40:45 ‘Colston 4’ trial – individuals charged with criminal damage/acquitted</p><p>41:00 acquittal now on appeal by Attorney General’s reference on lawfulness of some lines of defence run, including question of right to freedom of expression and extent that can justify attacking property</p><p>41:45 ‘retain and explain’ policy</p><p>43:10 changes to planning and listed building procedures </p><p>44:35 Cecil Rhodes statues and other memorials in Oxford</p><p>46:35 Rhodes commemorative plaque in Oxford recently listed by Secretary of State </p><p>46:45 increased public awareness about these issues </p><p>47:15 Arts education charity, Art UK recent catalogue of 13,500 British public sculpture - only 2% commemorate people of colour</p><p>48:35 public art </p><p>49:45 Old Flo example of post-war public authority support for public art</p><p>50:00 developers recently encouraged to include public art, e.g., Desert Quartet Sculptures by Dame Elisabeth Frink placed in back of Worthing shopping center and now a listed building</p><p>51:50 Ulster Defence Regiment memorial in Lisburn, N. Ireland includes a female </p><p>53:00 National Windrush Monument in Waterloo Station commemorates arrival of Caribbean migrants after WWII</p><p>54:20 political issues about colonialism and empire involved with cultural heritage dispute</p><p><br/></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Send us Fan Mail Show notes: 1:00 evidence at trial from historian David Olusoga regarding Colston's ownership of more slaves than any other Brit in history, one of the earliest, biggest slave traders  1:30 Colston died circa 1720  1:45 statue of Colston erected by Victorian dignitaries in Bristol 2:10 half of the schools, streets and whatever in Bristol are named after Colston 2:20 circa 1990s, true history of Colston revealed 3:25 in the wake of the killing of George Floyd, the Bl...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>Show notes:</p><p>1:00 evidence at trial from historian David Olusoga regarding Colston&apos;s ownership of more slaves than any other Brit in history, one of the earliest, biggest slave traders </p><p>1:30 Colston died circa 1720 </p><p>1:45 statue of Colston erected by Victorian dignitaries in Bristol</p><p>2:10 half of the schools, streets and whatever in Bristol are named after Colston</p><p>2:20 circa 1990s, true history of Colston revealed</p><p>3:25 in the wake of the killing of George Floyd, the Black Lives Matter protests group pushed Colston statue into the harbor <br/><br/>3:45 restorative justice by others with community penalty</p><p>3:55 Colston 4 jury trial over prosecution of four individuals involved in toppling Colston statute</p><p>4:05 Elected for a Crown Court jury trial and were acquitted</p><p>5:20 Conservatives and those in the government, including the cabinet, expressed surprise at the verdict</p><p>6:10 UK Attorney General considered whether to send the case to the appeal court to consider whether there was an error of law in the direction of the jury</p><p>7:50 bill going through Parliament with a provision to increase the potential sentence for criminal damage against a public monument</p><p>8:15 proposed bill to change threshold that currently exists for criminal damage against a memorial or public monument with value under 5000 pounds, maximum sentence magistrates that could  impose was three months in prison</p><p>8:50 proposed bill is to remove financial threshold and make maximum sentence 10 years</p><p><br/></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>Show notes:</p><p>1:00 evidence at trial from historian David Olusoga regarding Colston&apos;s ownership of more slaves than any other Brit in history, one of the earliest, biggest slave traders </p><p>1:30 Colston died circa 1720 </p><p>1:45 statue of Colston erected by Victorian dignitaries in Bristol</p><p>2:10 half of the schools, streets and whatever in Bristol are named after Colston</p><p>2:20 circa 1990s, true history of Colston revealed</p><p>3:25 in the wake of the killing of George Floyd, the Black Lives Matter protests group pushed Colston statue into the harbor <br/><br/>3:45 restorative justice by others with community penalty</p><p>3:55 Colston 4 jury trial over prosecution of four individuals involved in toppling Colston statute</p><p>4:05 Elected for a Crown Court jury trial and were acquitted</p><p>5:20 Conservatives and those in the government, including the cabinet, expressed surprise at the verdict</p><p>6:10 UK Attorney General considered whether to send the case to the appeal court to consider whether there was an error of law in the direction of the jury</p><p>7:50 bill going through Parliament with a provision to increase the potential sentence for criminal damage against a public monument</p><p>8:15 proposed bill to change threshold that currently exists for criminal damage against a memorial or public monument with value under 5000 pounds, maximum sentence magistrates that could  impose was three months in prison</p><p>8:50 proposed bill is to remove financial threshold and make maximum sentence 10 years</p><p><br/></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <itunes:title>Glance at Culture - Dr. Jennnifer Mass, President of Scientific Analysis of Fine Art, On Cultural Heritage Science, Modigliani&#39;s Palette, Creating Scientific Literacy and More </itunes:title>
    <title>Glance at Culture - Dr. Jennnifer Mass, President of Scientific Analysis of Fine Art, On Cultural Heritage Science, Modigliani&#39;s Palette, Creating Scientific Literacy and More </title>
    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Send us Fan Mail To learn more, please visit the website for Scientific Analysis of Fine Art, LLC.  Show Notes:  0:01 scientific methods in London/Berlin to understand/preserve cultural heritage since 19th Century  2:30 history of cultural heritage science  4:00 founding Scientific Analysis of Fine Art LLC (SAFA)  5:40 Yves Tanguy’s Fraud in the Garden 5:50 catalogue raisonné by art historians Charles Stuckey/Stephen Mack 6:10 fascist attack at screening of Luis Bunuel’s satiri...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>To learn more, please visit the website for <a href='https://scienceforfineart.com'>Scientific Analysis of Fine Art, LLC</a>.<br/><br/>Show Notes:<br/><br/>0:01 scientific methods in London/Berlin to understand/preserve cultural heritage since 19th Century </p><p>2:30 history of cultural heritage science </p><p>4:00 founding Scientific Analysis of Fine Art LLC (SAFA) </p><p>5:40 Yves Tanguy’s <em>Fraud in the Garden</em></p><p>5:50 catalogue raisonné by art historians Charles Stuckey/Stephen Mack</p><p>6:10 fascist attack at screening of Luis Bunuel’s satiric “<b>L’Age d’Oro</b>” </p><p>7:00 use of multi-spectral imaging on <em>Fraud in the Garden</em> - ultraviolet light and infrared radiation, x-rays to view slash pattern on painting</p><p>7:45 restorations on Fraud in the Garden dated through pigments/paint binders</p><p>9:00 value of artwork as historical documents v. restoration  </p><p>9:45 cultural heritage as historical documents example of Victoria &amp; Albert Museum</p><p>10:45 display of Rothko Murals at Harvard </p><p>11:45 analysis for attribution questions varies between antiquities, paintings, decorative art objects</p><p>13:20 non-destructive drive for protocols for elemental and molecular analysis</p><p>14:00 changes to work by Van Gogh and Met’s <em>Irises and Roses</em></p><p>14:30 geranium lake known as Eosin red</p><p>15:00 paints like cadmium/chromium yellows from Industrial Revolution are also very sensitive to light and relative humidity</p><p>15:15 changes in Matisse’s 4 versions of Joy of Life – yellows fading to ivory white</p><p>15:30 mechanism of degradation </p><p>16:20 Picasso&apos;s 1901 <em>The Blue Room</em> </p><p>17:30 Cezanne</p><p>18:15 analysis of over 900 paint tubes from Munch</p><p>19:30 paints standardized in 1920s </p><p>21:00 flaking of zinc white: reaction of zinc oxide with oil creates crystalized molecules - zinc soaps</p><p>21:25 titanium white </p><p>23:00 heavy metal pigment paints strongly absorb x-rays like lead white/vermillion (a mercury sulfide red) prevent seeing underpainting</p><p>24:45 head of scientific vetting committee for TEFAF New York </p><p>27:15 Court of Arbitration for Art </p><p>28:35 trusting science for due diligence </p><p>30:30 stigma  attached to use of science </p><p>33:00 Bard Graduate Center</p><p>34:00 wooden polychrome sculpture analysis: dendrochronology and radiocarbon dating</p><p>36:00  dirty dozen paint list</p><p>36:45 mixing drying linseed with non-drying oil paint (sunflower)</p><p>37:50 Eosin red, emerald green, cadmium yellow, chromium yellow, vermillion, copper blues  </p><p>38:50 favorite paintings </p><p>39:10 Modigliani  at the Barnes </p><p>39:45 Modigliani’s palette </p><p>40:35 The Burlington Magazine </p><p>41:10  Klimt’s Faculty Paintings </p><p>42:30 computational technologies </p><p>43:00  justice</p><p>43:45 invention of photography enabled Jacob Riis to document New York slums </p><p>44:00 20th Century photographer and sociologist Lewis Hine</p><p>44:20 BLM </p><p>44:30 environmental justice  </p><p>45:40 recommendations </p><p>46:55 legacy to create scientific literacy for art conservators and historians</p><p><br/></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>To learn more, please visit the website for <a href='https://scienceforfineart.com'>Scientific Analysis of Fine Art, LLC</a>.<br/><br/>Show Notes:<br/><br/>0:01 scientific methods in London/Berlin to understand/preserve cultural heritage since 19th Century </p><p>2:30 history of cultural heritage science </p><p>4:00 founding Scientific Analysis of Fine Art LLC (SAFA) </p><p>5:40 Yves Tanguy’s <em>Fraud in the Garden</em></p><p>5:50 catalogue raisonné by art historians Charles Stuckey/Stephen Mack</p><p>6:10 fascist attack at screening of Luis Bunuel’s satiric “<b>L’Age d’Oro</b>” </p><p>7:00 use of multi-spectral imaging on <em>Fraud in the Garden</em> - ultraviolet light and infrared radiation, x-rays to view slash pattern on painting</p><p>7:45 restorations on Fraud in the Garden dated through pigments/paint binders</p><p>9:00 value of artwork as historical documents v. restoration  </p><p>9:45 cultural heritage as historical documents example of Victoria &amp; Albert Museum</p><p>10:45 display of Rothko Murals at Harvard </p><p>11:45 analysis for attribution questions varies between antiquities, paintings, decorative art objects</p><p>13:20 non-destructive drive for protocols for elemental and molecular analysis</p><p>14:00 changes to work by Van Gogh and Met’s <em>Irises and Roses</em></p><p>14:30 geranium lake known as Eosin red</p><p>15:00 paints like cadmium/chromium yellows from Industrial Revolution are also very sensitive to light and relative humidity</p><p>15:15 changes in Matisse’s 4 versions of Joy of Life – yellows fading to ivory white</p><p>15:30 mechanism of degradation </p><p>16:20 Picasso&apos;s 1901 <em>The Blue Room</em> </p><p>17:30 Cezanne</p><p>18:15 analysis of over 900 paint tubes from Munch</p><p>19:30 paints standardized in 1920s </p><p>21:00 flaking of zinc white: reaction of zinc oxide with oil creates crystalized molecules - zinc soaps</p><p>21:25 titanium white </p><p>23:00 heavy metal pigment paints strongly absorb x-rays like lead white/vermillion (a mercury sulfide red) prevent seeing underpainting</p><p>24:45 head of scientific vetting committee for TEFAF New York </p><p>27:15 Court of Arbitration for Art </p><p>28:35 trusting science for due diligence </p><p>30:30 stigma  attached to use of science </p><p>33:00 Bard Graduate Center</p><p>34:00 wooden polychrome sculpture analysis: dendrochronology and radiocarbon dating</p><p>36:00  dirty dozen paint list</p><p>36:45 mixing drying linseed with non-drying oil paint (sunflower)</p><p>37:50 Eosin red, emerald green, cadmium yellow, chromium yellow, vermillion, copper blues  </p><p>38:50 favorite paintings </p><p>39:10 Modigliani  at the Barnes </p><p>39:45 Modigliani’s palette </p><p>40:35 The Burlington Magazine </p><p>41:10  Klimt’s Faculty Paintings </p><p>42:30 computational technologies </p><p>43:00  justice</p><p>43:45 invention of photography enabled Jacob Riis to document New York slums </p><p>44:00 20th Century photographer and sociologist Lewis Hine</p><p>44:20 BLM </p><p>44:30 environmental justice  </p><p>45:40 recommendations </p><p>46:55 legacy to create scientific literacy for art conservators and historians</p><p><br/></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Send us Fan Mail The following are links used in preparation of this episode:  https://verlorene-generation.com/en/kuenstler/felka-platek/  https://www.yadvashem.org/yv/pdf-drupal/en/education/newsletter/yv_magazine18_10-11.pdf  http://www.find-felka-find-felix.info/index_en.html  https://www.holocaustremembrance.com/news-archive/international-auschwitz-committee-commemorates-artist-couple-felka-platek-and-felix  https://www.yadvashem.org/articles/general/felix-nussbaum.html  https://www.yadv...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>The following are links used in preparation of this episode:<br/><br/>https://verlorene-generation.com/en/kuenstler/felka-platek/<br/><br/><a href='https://www.yadvashem.org/yv/pdf-drupal/en/education/newsletter/yv_magazine18_10-11.pdf'><b>https://www.yadvashem.org/yv/pdf-drupal/en/education/newsletter/yv_magazine18_10-11.pdf</b></a><b><br/><br/></b><a href='http://www.find-felka-find-felix.info/index_en.html'>http://www.find-felka-find-felix.info/index_en.html</a><br/><br/><a href='https://www.holocaustremembrance.com/news-archive/international-auschwitz-committee-commemorates-artist-couple-felka-platek-and-felix'>https://www.holocaustremembrance.com/news-archive/international-auschwitz-committee-commemorates-artist-couple-felka-platek-and-felix</a><br/><b><br/></b><a href='https://www.yadvashem.org/articles/general/felix-nussbaum.html'>https://www.yadvashem.org/articles/general/felix-nussbaum.html</a><br/><br/><a href='https://www.yadvashem.org/yv/en/exhibitions/nussbaum/about_nussbaum.asp'>https://www.yadvashem.org/yv/en/exhibitions/nussbaum/about_nussbaum.asp</a></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>The following are links used in preparation of this episode:<br/><br/>https://verlorene-generation.com/en/kuenstler/felka-platek/<br/><br/><a href='https://www.yadvashem.org/yv/pdf-drupal/en/education/newsletter/yv_magazine18_10-11.pdf'><b>https://www.yadvashem.org/yv/pdf-drupal/en/education/newsletter/yv_magazine18_10-11.pdf</b></a><b><br/><br/></b><a href='http://www.find-felka-find-felix.info/index_en.html'>http://www.find-felka-find-felix.info/index_en.html</a><br/><br/><a href='https://www.holocaustremembrance.com/news-archive/international-auschwitz-committee-commemorates-artist-couple-felka-platek-and-felix'>https://www.holocaustremembrance.com/news-archive/international-auschwitz-committee-commemorates-artist-couple-felka-platek-and-felix</a><br/><b><br/></b><a href='https://www.yadvashem.org/articles/general/felix-nussbaum.html'>https://www.yadvashem.org/articles/general/felix-nussbaum.html</a><br/><br/><a href='https://www.yadvashem.org/yv/en/exhibitions/nussbaum/about_nussbaum.asp'>https://www.yadvashem.org/yv/en/exhibitions/nussbaum/about_nussbaum.asp</a></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Send us Fan Mail To learn more, please visit David de Jong's website.  Show Notes: 3:30 overview of Nazi Billionaires 5:15 families included in Nazi Billionaires control companies like BMW and Porche whitewashing patriarchs’ legacies 6:15 moral and historical reconstruction – acknowledging what’s transpired in history 9:00 Quandt dynasty and BMW Group 10:00 Flick dynasty and Daimler-Benz 11:10: Von Finck and Allianz and Munich Re  11:45 Porsche-Piëch - Volkswagen, Porsche, Bentley  ...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>To learn more, please visit <a href='https://daviddejong.net'>David de Jong&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>Show Notes:</p><p>3:30 overview of <em>Nazi Billionaires</em></p><p>5:15 families included in <em>Nazi Billionaires</em> control companies like BMW and Porche whitewashing patriarchs’ legacies</p><p>6:15 moral and historical reconstruction – acknowledging what’s transpired in history</p><p>9:00 Quandt dynasty and BMW Group</p><p>10:00 Flick dynasty and Daimler-Benz</p><p>11:10: Von Finck and Allianz and Munich Re </p><p>11:45 Porsche-Piëch - Volkswagen, Porsche, Bentley                                                       </p><p>13:40 Oetkers - baking powder, cake mixes, Germany’s largest beer brewery, one of Europe’s largest sparkling wine manufacturers, luxury hotels</p><p>14:00 Flick’s conviction of war crimes and post-war business success</p><p>19:20 Flick released on good behavior and saw himself as wrongfully convicted</p><p>20:30 Ferry Porsche’s autobiography <em>We At Porsche</em></p><p>22:30 Rosenberger’s post-war settlement with Porsche</p><p>23:30 Porsche Sales &amp; Marketing Representative Joachim Peiper’s death sentence commuted for the Malmedy Massacre of U.S. Army POWs</p><p>24:45 English version of <em>We At Porsche</em></p><p>25:30 German version of <em>We At Porsche</em></p><p>26:00 Porsche AG spokesperson and head of Porsche Foundation Dr. Sebastian Rudolph </p><p>28:30 research for <em>Nazi Billionaires</em> for 4 years starting in 2017 </p><p>29:00 archive availability and Fold 3 access</p><p>30:30 German academic reporting of Nazi family histories</p><p>32:00 breadth and depth of families’ collaboration with Third Reich</p><p>33:00 Reimann family emerge in 2019 as Germany’s second wealthiest family </p><p>36:50 Reimann family’s Alfred Landecker Foundation </p><p>38:20 German family Bahlsen’s study expected summer 2023</p><p>39:20 ignorant remarks by Verena Bahlsen</p><p>41:00 how current ignorance and historical distortion are related to overlooking war crimes</p><p>41:50 dynasties’ lean on notion of collective guilt</p><p>46:00 de Jong’s family experience </p><p>47:00 Artist Max van Dam</p><p>49:30 his family experience makes him mindful of history </p><p>51:00 his motivation to get these stories out</p><p>51:50 plans for a second book about dynasties that shaped the U.S. and the Netherlands </p><p>52:50 evolution of his definition of justice over the course of writing <em>Nazi Billionaires</em></p><p><br/></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>To learn more, please visit <a href='https://daviddejong.net'>David de Jong&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>Show Notes:</p><p>3:30 overview of <em>Nazi Billionaires</em></p><p>5:15 families included in <em>Nazi Billionaires</em> control companies like BMW and Porche whitewashing patriarchs’ legacies</p><p>6:15 moral and historical reconstruction – acknowledging what’s transpired in history</p><p>9:00 Quandt dynasty and BMW Group</p><p>10:00 Flick dynasty and Daimler-Benz</p><p>11:10: Von Finck and Allianz and Munich Re </p><p>11:45 Porsche-Piëch - Volkswagen, Porsche, Bentley                                                       </p><p>13:40 Oetkers - baking powder, cake mixes, Germany’s largest beer brewery, one of Europe’s largest sparkling wine manufacturers, luxury hotels</p><p>14:00 Flick’s conviction of war crimes and post-war business success</p><p>19:20 Flick released on good behavior and saw himself as wrongfully convicted</p><p>20:30 Ferry Porsche’s autobiography <em>We At Porsche</em></p><p>22:30 Rosenberger’s post-war settlement with Porsche</p><p>23:30 Porsche Sales &amp; Marketing Representative Joachim Peiper’s death sentence commuted for the Malmedy Massacre of U.S. Army POWs</p><p>24:45 English version of <em>We At Porsche</em></p><p>25:30 German version of <em>We At Porsche</em></p><p>26:00 Porsche AG spokesperson and head of Porsche Foundation Dr. Sebastian Rudolph </p><p>28:30 research for <em>Nazi Billionaires</em> for 4 years starting in 2017 </p><p>29:00 archive availability and Fold 3 access</p><p>30:30 German academic reporting of Nazi family histories</p><p>32:00 breadth and depth of families’ collaboration with Third Reich</p><p>33:00 Reimann family emerge in 2019 as Germany’s second wealthiest family </p><p>36:50 Reimann family’s Alfred Landecker Foundation </p><p>38:20 German family Bahlsen’s study expected summer 2023</p><p>39:20 ignorant remarks by Verena Bahlsen</p><p>41:00 how current ignorance and historical distortion are related to overlooking war crimes</p><p>41:50 dynasties’ lean on notion of collective guilt</p><p>46:00 de Jong’s family experience </p><p>47:00 Artist Max van Dam</p><p>49:30 his family experience makes him mindful of history </p><p>51:00 his motivation to get these stories out</p><p>51:50 plans for a second book about dynasties that shaped the U.S. and the Netherlands </p><p>52:50 evolution of his definition of justice over the course of writing <em>Nazi Billionaires</em></p><p><br/></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Send us Fan Mail The featured image is titled red light, acrylic on canvas, 9"x12", Yelena Khajekian. Image: © and TM Yelena Khajekian. All rights reserved.     Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com  Music by Toulme.  To hear more episodes, please visit Warfare of Art and Law podcast's website.  To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, cultu...]]></itunes:summary>
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    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Send us Fan Mail Cover photo of Menachem Kaiser by Beowulf Sheehan.  To learn more, please visit the website for Menacham Kaiser and Plunder.  Show Notes: 2:00 genesis of Plunder: A Memoir of family property and Nazi treasure 4:00 the memoir by Abraham Kajser 6:45 Kajser’s experience as a forced laborer during WWII in underground camp structures in Poland that were given the code name Project Riese  7:30 Polish version and Hebrew version of Kajser’s memoir 8:45 political decisions in wha...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>Cover photo of Menachem Kaiser by Beowulf Sheehan.<br/><br/>To learn more, please visit the website for <a href='https://mnchm.com/book/'>Menacham Kaiser and <em>Plunder</em></a>.<br/><br/>Show Notes:</p><p>2:00 genesis of <em>Plunder: A Memoir of family property and Nazi treasure</em></p><p>4:00 the memoir by Abraham Kajser</p><p>6:45 Kajser’s experience as a forced laborer during WWII in underground camp structures in Poland that were given the code name Project Riese </p><p>7:30 Polish version and Hebrew version of Kajser’s memoir</p><p>8:45 political decisions in what stories are given attention</p><p>10:30 the writer’s mandate to create work that’s honest</p><p>11:20 he went on a Fulbright to Lithuania</p><p>11:50 his unexpected research on the Vilna Ghetto</p><p>12:30 lessons missed in Holocaust education</p><p>13:00 his revelation of how morally and historically complicated and interesting the Holocaust is</p><p>14:00 Jews’ self-governance in ghettos included trials and hangings</p><p>15:00 How the ‘politics memory’ differs in countries like Lithuania and Poland</p><p>17:00 The arc of his thoughts on the moral and ethical questions raised by his inheritance claim for his grandfather’s building</p><p>21:00 status of his inheritance claim for his grandfather’s building</p><p>22:00 move by mayor of Sosnowiec to claim his grandfather’s building</p><p>25:30 Nationalist shift in Poland, resulting in failed/dismissed property claims</p><p>27:00 response to <em>Plunder</em> in Poland</p><p>28:30 KARTA publisher of <em>Plunder</em> in Poland </p><p>30:00 the challenges he dealt with in researching the book </p><p>31:50 research into forced displacement of Germans after WWII</p><p>34:30 myth-soaked Silesia became a character in the book</p><p>36:30 archive from Vilnius, Lithuania</p><p>38:00 David Fishman’s <em>The Book Smugglers</em></p><p>40:00 value of archives in digitized form versus physical form</p><p>41:00 Vilnius archive re-surfaced in the late 1980s/early 1990s </p><p>43:00 arts programs in the Vilna ghetto during WWII</p><p>43:30 Artist Samuel Bak</p><p>44:00 Poet Abraham Sutzkever</p><p>44:15 Protest songs by poet, musician, writer and activist Szmerke Kaczerginski</p><p>44:40 civil war rumblings in Vilna ghetto</p><p>46:50 Jacob Gens, head of the Vilna ghetto government</p><p>47:45 death of Itzik Wittenberg, Hero of the Vilna Ghetto / leader of the Resistance</p><p>49:30 anti-Semitism in Poland</p><p>50:30 his thoughts on how the justice system is designed to frustrate efforts </p><p>52:15 his thoughts on how his legacy is being shaped as a writer</p><p>57:00 his current project related to an ongoing story in Montreal that involves allegations of hiding 4B in Nazi gold.</p><p><br/></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>Cover photo of Menachem Kaiser by Beowulf Sheehan.<br/><br/>To learn more, please visit the website for <a href='https://mnchm.com/book/'>Menacham Kaiser and <em>Plunder</em></a>.<br/><br/>Show Notes:</p><p>2:00 genesis of <em>Plunder: A Memoir of family property and Nazi treasure</em></p><p>4:00 the memoir by Abraham Kajser</p><p>6:45 Kajser’s experience as a forced laborer during WWII in underground camp structures in Poland that were given the code name Project Riese </p><p>7:30 Polish version and Hebrew version of Kajser’s memoir</p><p>8:45 political decisions in what stories are given attention</p><p>10:30 the writer’s mandate to create work that’s honest</p><p>11:20 he went on a Fulbright to Lithuania</p><p>11:50 his unexpected research on the Vilna Ghetto</p><p>12:30 lessons missed in Holocaust education</p><p>13:00 his revelation of how morally and historically complicated and interesting the Holocaust is</p><p>14:00 Jews’ self-governance in ghettos included trials and hangings</p><p>15:00 How the ‘politics memory’ differs in countries like Lithuania and Poland</p><p>17:00 The arc of his thoughts on the moral and ethical questions raised by his inheritance claim for his grandfather’s building</p><p>21:00 status of his inheritance claim for his grandfather’s building</p><p>22:00 move by mayor of Sosnowiec to claim his grandfather’s building</p><p>25:30 Nationalist shift in Poland, resulting in failed/dismissed property claims</p><p>27:00 response to <em>Plunder</em> in Poland</p><p>28:30 KARTA publisher of <em>Plunder</em> in Poland </p><p>30:00 the challenges he dealt with in researching the book </p><p>31:50 research into forced displacement of Germans after WWII</p><p>34:30 myth-soaked Silesia became a character in the book</p><p>36:30 archive from Vilnius, Lithuania</p><p>38:00 David Fishman’s <em>The Book Smugglers</em></p><p>40:00 value of archives in digitized form versus physical form</p><p>41:00 Vilnius archive re-surfaced in the late 1980s/early 1990s </p><p>43:00 arts programs in the Vilna ghetto during WWII</p><p>43:30 Artist Samuel Bak</p><p>44:00 Poet Abraham Sutzkever</p><p>44:15 Protest songs by poet, musician, writer and activist Szmerke Kaczerginski</p><p>44:40 civil war rumblings in Vilna ghetto</p><p>46:50 Jacob Gens, head of the Vilna ghetto government</p><p>47:45 death of Itzik Wittenberg, Hero of the Vilna Ghetto / leader of the Resistance</p><p>49:30 anti-Semitism in Poland</p><p>50:30 his thoughts on how the justice system is designed to frustrate efforts </p><p>52:15 his thoughts on how his legacy is being shaped as a writer</p><p>57:00 his current project related to an ongoing story in Montreal that involves allegations of hiding 4B in Nazi gold.</p><p><br/></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Send us Fan Mail The following are links used to prepare this episode:  https://verlorene-generation.com/en/kuenstler/julie-wolfthorn/  https://www.lostwomenart.de/en/artist/julie-wolfthorn/  https://www.wikiwand.com/en/Julie_Wolfthorn  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julie_Wolfthorn    Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com  Music by Toulme.  To hear more episodes, please visit Warfare of Art and Law podcast's website.  To leave questions or comments ab...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>The following are links used to prepare this episode:<br/><br/>https://verlorene-generation.com/en/kuenstler/julie-wolfthorn/<br/><br/><a href='https://www.lostwomenart.de/en/artist/julie-wolfthorn/'>https://www.lostwomenart.de/en/artist/julie-wolfthorn/</a><br/><br/><a href='https://www.wikiwand.com/en/Julie_Wolfthorn'>https://www.wikiwand.com/en/Julie_Wolfthorn</a><br/><br/><a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julie_Wolfthorn'>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julie_Wolfthorn</a><br/><br/><br/></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>The following are links used to prepare this episode:<br/><br/>https://verlorene-generation.com/en/kuenstler/julie-wolfthorn/<br/><br/><a href='https://www.lostwomenart.de/en/artist/julie-wolfthorn/'>https://www.lostwomenart.de/en/artist/julie-wolfthorn/</a><br/><br/><a href='https://www.wikiwand.com/en/Julie_Wolfthorn'>https://www.wikiwand.com/en/Julie_Wolfthorn</a><br/><br/><a href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julie_Wolfthorn'>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julie_Wolfthorn</a><br/><br/><br/></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <title>Dr. Joanna Sliwa On Holocaust Distortion, Poland&#39;s ‘Politics of Memory’, Jewish Childhood in Kraków, an Undercover Jewess Who Negotiated with the Nazis, and a Legacy to Inspire Future Scholars of All Genocide</title>
    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Send us Fan Mail To learn more, please visit the website for Ms. Sliwa.  Show Notes: 2:45 inspiration for her career as a historian of the Holocaust and Polish Jewish history 4:30 American Jewish Joint Distribution Committee (JDC) 6:50 Conference on Jewish Material Claims Against Germany (the Claims Conference) 8:00 Claims Conference’s work on behalf of elderly survivors 10:00 current issues blocking claims that she’s encountered and how they differ between countries 12:00 history of the plun...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>To learn more, please visit <a href='http://www.joannasliwa.com'>the website for Ms. Sliwa</a>.<br/><br/>Show Notes:</p><p>2:45 inspiration for her career as a historian of the Holocaust and Polish Jewish history</p><p>4:30 American Jewish Joint Distribution Committee (JDC)</p><p>6:50 Conference on Jewish Material Claims Against Germany (the Claims Conference)</p><p>8:00 Claims Conference’s work on behalf of elderly survivors</p><p>10:00 current issues blocking claims that she’s encountered and how they differ between countries</p><p>12:00 history of the plunder and anti-restitution approach/laws in Poland</p><p>16:00 definition of who is a survivor for restitution purposes, e.g., exclusion of Jews who were in hiding during WWII from receiving pensions</p><p>17:45 lack of understanding and education about the gravity of the theft and restitution issues from WWII</p><p>19:00 claims like Menachem Kaiser </p><p>20:20 attitudes and behaviors towards Holocaust survivors and why claims are still ongoing</p><p>23:00 heirless property</p><p>24:00 JUST Act report’s findings on Poland about archives </p><p>26:00 <em>It Is Still Night</em> authors Historian Jan Grabowski and Professor Barbara Engelking</p><p>30:00 pursuit of the ‘Politics of Memory’ by the current government in Poland, Law and Justice as a distortion of Holocaust history</p><p>35:00 example of how Holocaust history is distorted: Poland’s commemoration of a Polish railway worker who is said to have given water to Jews in boxcars en route to Treblinka versus acknowledging Poles who robbed Jews in boxcars in exchange for water</p><p>41:00 <a href='https://www.rutgersuniversitypress.org/jewish-childhood-in-krakow/9781978822931'><em>Jewish Childhood in Kraków: A Microhistory of the Holocaust</em></a></p><p>43:45 historical drama film <em>Schindler’s List</em></p><p>45:45 <em>Children With a Star: Jewish Youth in Nazi Europe</em> by Deborah Dwork</p><p>47:00 <em>Counterfeit Countess: The Jewish Mathematician Who Rescued Poles during the Holocaust</em> co-authored with Dr. Elizabeth (Barry) White, expert on Majdanek Concentration Camp</p><p>52:00 genealogy methods supplemented research for <em>Counterfeit Countess</em></p><p>56:15<em> The Beginning of the Holocaust in Poland 1939-1941</em>? Other upcoming projects?</p><p>59:15 how Dr. Sliwa defines justice and how she sees her work facilitating justice </p><p>1:30:00 Dr. Sliwa’s hope for her legacy: to educate and inspire future scholars of all genocide</p><p><br/></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>To learn more, please visit <a href='http://www.joannasliwa.com'>the website for Ms. Sliwa</a>.<br/><br/>Show Notes:</p><p>2:45 inspiration for her career as a historian of the Holocaust and Polish Jewish history</p><p>4:30 American Jewish Joint Distribution Committee (JDC)</p><p>6:50 Conference on Jewish Material Claims Against Germany (the Claims Conference)</p><p>8:00 Claims Conference’s work on behalf of elderly survivors</p><p>10:00 current issues blocking claims that she’s encountered and how they differ between countries</p><p>12:00 history of the plunder and anti-restitution approach/laws in Poland</p><p>16:00 definition of who is a survivor for restitution purposes, e.g., exclusion of Jews who were in hiding during WWII from receiving pensions</p><p>17:45 lack of understanding and education about the gravity of the theft and restitution issues from WWII</p><p>19:00 claims like Menachem Kaiser </p><p>20:20 attitudes and behaviors towards Holocaust survivors and why claims are still ongoing</p><p>23:00 heirless property</p><p>24:00 JUST Act report’s findings on Poland about archives </p><p>26:00 <em>It Is Still Night</em> authors Historian Jan Grabowski and Professor Barbara Engelking</p><p>30:00 pursuit of the ‘Politics of Memory’ by the current government in Poland, Law and Justice as a distortion of Holocaust history</p><p>35:00 example of how Holocaust history is distorted: Poland’s commemoration of a Polish railway worker who is said to have given water to Jews in boxcars en route to Treblinka versus acknowledging Poles who robbed Jews in boxcars in exchange for water</p><p>41:00 <a href='https://www.rutgersuniversitypress.org/jewish-childhood-in-krakow/9781978822931'><em>Jewish Childhood in Kraków: A Microhistory of the Holocaust</em></a></p><p>43:45 historical drama film <em>Schindler’s List</em></p><p>45:45 <em>Children With a Star: Jewish Youth in Nazi Europe</em> by Deborah Dwork</p><p>47:00 <em>Counterfeit Countess: The Jewish Mathematician Who Rescued Poles during the Holocaust</em> co-authored with Dr. Elizabeth (Barry) White, expert on Majdanek Concentration Camp</p><p>52:00 genealogy methods supplemented research for <em>Counterfeit Countess</em></p><p>56:15<em> The Beginning of the Holocaust in Poland 1939-1941</em>? Other upcoming projects?</p><p>59:15 how Dr. Sliwa defines justice and how she sees her work facilitating justice </p><p>1:30:00 Dr. Sliwa’s hope for her legacy: to educate and inspire future scholars of all genocide</p><p><br/></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <title>Glance at Culture - Author, Illustrator &amp; Educator Marisabina Russo on How Her Heritage Informs Her Work, the Importance of Historical Justice, and Her Legacy as a Bridge Between Generations</title>
    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Send us Fan Mail To learn more, please visit Marisabina Russo's website.    Show Notes: 2:00 A Visit With Oma 2:45 A House of Sports 3:30 Always Remember Me 3:45 I Will Come Back For You 4:00 Why Is Everybody Yelling? Growing Up In My Immigrant Family 5:00 Graphic memoir about cancer 7:00 Research at the Holocaust Museum in Washington, DC 7:40 Steven Spielberg’s USC Shoah Foundation  8:00 Research in Italy 8:25 Her brother’s identification of his murdered father 10:30 Immigrati...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>To learn more, please visit <a href='https://www.marisabinabooks.com'>Marisabina Russo&apos;s website</a>. <br/> <br/>Show Notes:</p><p>2:00 <em>A Visit With Oma</em></p><p>2:45 <em>A House of Sports</em></p><p>3:30 <em>Always Remember Me</em></p><p>3:45 <em>I Will Come Back For You</em></p><p>4:00 <em>Why Is Everybody Yelling? Growing Up In My Immigrant Family</em></p><p>5:00 Graphic memoir about cancer</p><p>7:00 Research at the Holocaust Museum in Washington, DC</p><p>7:40 Steven Spielberg’s USC Shoah Foundation </p><p>8:00 Research in Italy</p><p>8:25 Her brother’s identification of his murdered father</p><p>10:30 Immigration experience and being a child of divorced parents</p><p>12:30 Jewish Book Council Review </p><p>15:30 Sainthood</p><p>17:25 German and Yiddish included in graphic novel</p><p>18:30<em> Bengasi</em> 1942 Italian war film directed by Augusto Genina </p><p>22:30 <em>Cats of Krasinski Square</em> by Karen Hesse</p><p>22:35 <em>Nicky &amp; Vera</em> by Peter Sís </p><p>22:50 <em>No Pretty Pictures</em> by Anita Lobel </p><p>24:45 German program for Holocaust victims to visit Germany</p><p>25:20 Visit to Leipzig, Germany</p><p>25:45 Gewandhaus - opera and classical music venue in Leipzig, Germany</p><p>27:30 how her books work towards historical justice </p><p>29:00 Why books dealing with war are important for young readers</p><p>31:15 New York City’s Tenement Museum</p><p>32:10 1911 Triangle Shirtwaist Factory fire</p><p>32:45 how Ms. Russo’s definition of justice has evolved; that justice is for all</p><p>33:30 Quote from James Baldwin “It is certain in any case that ignorance allied with power is the most ferocious enemy justice can have.”</p><p>34:50 <em>The Warmth of Other Suns</em> by Isabel Wilkerson</p><p>35:25 <em>After Such Knowledge: Memory, History and the Legacy of the Holocaust </em>by Eva Hoffman </p><p>36:00 <em>The Grapes of Wrath</em> by John Steinbeck</p><p>36:40 <em>Maus</em> by Art Spiegelman</p><p>37:40 <em>Can We Talk About Something More Pleasant</em> by New Yorker cartoonist Roz Chast </p><p>38:00<em> Fun Home: A Family Tragicomic </em>by American cartoonist Alison Bechdel </p><p>38:05 <em>Persepolis: The Story of a Childhood</em> by Marjane Satrapi</p><p>38:15 Linda Barry’s books</p><p>38:30 Her recent appearance on comic creator panels in NYC </p><p>39:30 <em>El Deafo</em> by CeCe Bell </p><p>40:00 Spiegelman’s comments on not doing another <em>Maus</em> book</p><p>42:20 current book dummy project  </p><p>42:30 Fiber Artist Liz Albert Fay collaboration for ‘Extraordinary Women’ project viewable on Instagram</p><p>45:15 her first book <em>The Line Up Book </em></p><p>45:35<em> House of Sports </em>was a turn from picture books </p><p>46:05 <em>Always Remember Me</em> was her first time addressing the Holocaust in a book</p><p>48:00 the passing of her Tante Annie </p><p>50:45 Tante’s response about prayer during her time in Auschwitz </p><p>53:30 The legacy of her work: to act as a bridge from the former generation to the next generations </p><p>55:10 two letters her mother received from employer who was forced to fire her that evidence the reality of the Holocaust era</p><p><br/></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>To learn more, please visit <a href='https://www.marisabinabooks.com'>Marisabina Russo&apos;s website</a>. <br/> <br/>Show Notes:</p><p>2:00 <em>A Visit With Oma</em></p><p>2:45 <em>A House of Sports</em></p><p>3:30 <em>Always Remember Me</em></p><p>3:45 <em>I Will Come Back For You</em></p><p>4:00 <em>Why Is Everybody Yelling? Growing Up In My Immigrant Family</em></p><p>5:00 Graphic memoir about cancer</p><p>7:00 Research at the Holocaust Museum in Washington, DC</p><p>7:40 Steven Spielberg’s USC Shoah Foundation </p><p>8:00 Research in Italy</p><p>8:25 Her brother’s identification of his murdered father</p><p>10:30 Immigration experience and being a child of divorced parents</p><p>12:30 Jewish Book Council Review </p><p>15:30 Sainthood</p><p>17:25 German and Yiddish included in graphic novel</p><p>18:30<em> Bengasi</em> 1942 Italian war film directed by Augusto Genina </p><p>22:30 <em>Cats of Krasinski Square</em> by Karen Hesse</p><p>22:35 <em>Nicky &amp; Vera</em> by Peter Sís </p><p>22:50 <em>No Pretty Pictures</em> by Anita Lobel </p><p>24:45 German program for Holocaust victims to visit Germany</p><p>25:20 Visit to Leipzig, Germany</p><p>25:45 Gewandhaus - opera and classical music venue in Leipzig, Germany</p><p>27:30 how her books work towards historical justice </p><p>29:00 Why books dealing with war are important for young readers</p><p>31:15 New York City’s Tenement Museum</p><p>32:10 1911 Triangle Shirtwaist Factory fire</p><p>32:45 how Ms. Russo’s definition of justice has evolved; that justice is for all</p><p>33:30 Quote from James Baldwin “It is certain in any case that ignorance allied with power is the most ferocious enemy justice can have.”</p><p>34:50 <em>The Warmth of Other Suns</em> by Isabel Wilkerson</p><p>35:25 <em>After Such Knowledge: Memory, History and the Legacy of the Holocaust </em>by Eva Hoffman </p><p>36:00 <em>The Grapes of Wrath</em> by John Steinbeck</p><p>36:40 <em>Maus</em> by Art Spiegelman</p><p>37:40 <em>Can We Talk About Something More Pleasant</em> by New Yorker cartoonist Roz Chast </p><p>38:00<em> Fun Home: A Family Tragicomic </em>by American cartoonist Alison Bechdel </p><p>38:05 <em>Persepolis: The Story of a Childhood</em> by Marjane Satrapi</p><p>38:15 Linda Barry’s books</p><p>38:30 Her recent appearance on comic creator panels in NYC </p><p>39:30 <em>El Deafo</em> by CeCe Bell </p><p>40:00 Spiegelman’s comments on not doing another <em>Maus</em> book</p><p>42:20 current book dummy project  </p><p>42:30 Fiber Artist Liz Albert Fay collaboration for ‘Extraordinary Women’ project viewable on Instagram</p><p>45:15 her first book <em>The Line Up Book </em></p><p>45:35<em> House of Sports </em>was a turn from picture books </p><p>46:05 <em>Always Remember Me</em> was her first time addressing the Holocaust in a book</p><p>48:00 the passing of her Tante Annie </p><p>50:45 Tante’s response about prayer during her time in Auschwitz </p><p>53:30 The legacy of her work: to act as a bridge from the former generation to the next generations </p><p>55:10 two letters her mother received from employer who was forced to fire her that evidence the reality of the Holocaust era</p><p><br/></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <title>Scrivener&#39;s Gazette Bonus - Artist Sofie Korner and Art Historian Dr. Stella Kramrisch </title>
    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Send us Fan Mail The following are links used to prepare this episode, including the research of Dr. Elizabeth Otto:  https://artsandculture.google.com/story/cAXBuNF0R1tPNw  https://www.frauenkunst.at/de/maler/korner/index.html  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stella_Kramrisch  https://www.hatjecantz.de/the-bauhaus-in-calcutta-5790-1.html  https://www.hindustantimes.com/kolkata/at-home-with-the-bauhaus/story-kLwp69R1IBUxCS806vfyEM.html    Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie...]]></itunes:summary>
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    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>The following are links used to prepare this episode, including the research of Dr. Elizabeth Otto:<br/><br/><a href='https://artsandculture.google.com/story/cAXBuNF0R1tPNw'><b>https://artsandculture.google.com/story/cAXBuNF0R1tPNw</b></a><b><br/><br/>https://www.frauenkunst.at/de/maler/korner/index.html<br/><br/>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stella_Kramrisch<br/><br/>https://www.hatjecantz.de/the-bauhaus-in-calcutta-5790-1.html<br/><br/>https://www.hindustantimes.com/kolkata/at-home-with-the-bauhaus/story-kLwp69R1IBUxCS806vfyEM.html<br/></b><br/><br/></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <itunes:title>Arté Util: Dr. Gemma Medina and Alessandra Saviotti on Collaborative Art Projects, the Public as Users in a Museum Context and Why Art Should Be Used to Address Social Issues</itunes:title>
    <title>Arté Util: Dr. Gemma Medina and Alessandra Saviotti on Collaborative Art Projects, the Public as Users in a Museum Context and Why Art Should Be Used to Address Social Issues</title>
    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Send us Fan Mail Please visit the website for Arté Util to learn more.  SHOW NOTES: 0:02:20 overview of Arté Util 0:08:00 projects prior to Arté Util 0:14:00 Arté Util archive and museum 0:24:00 museum 3.0  0:24:30 vocabulary created for Arté Util 0:32:00 ‘expert culture’ term to be retired 0:36:00 the work of Dr. Gemma Medina and Alessandra Saviotti under the lens of usership 0:46:00 project applications 0:51:00 Please Love Austria project and Foreigners Out film  0:57:45 Alternati...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>Please visit the website for <a href='https://www.arte-util.org'>Arté Util</a> to learn more.<br/><br/>SHOW NOTES:</p><p>0:02:20 overview of Arté Util</p><p>0:08:00 projects prior to Arté Util</p><p>0:14:00 Arté Util archive and museum</p><p>0:24:00 museum 3.0 </p><p>0:24:30 vocabulary created for Arté Util</p><p>0:32:00 ‘expert culture’ term to be retired</p><p>0:36:00 the work of Dr. Gemma Medina and Alessandra Saviotti under the lens of usership</p><p>0:46:00 project applications</p><p>0:51:00 <em>Please Love Austria</em> project and <em>Foreigners Out</em> film </p><p>0:57:45 Alternative Energy Argentinian project</p><p>1:01:45 why art should be put into useful aspect</p><p>1:04:15 how Arté Util facilitates justice through its collaborative aspect</p><p>1:06:00 U.S. prisoners photo project</p><p><br/></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>Please visit the website for <a href='https://www.arte-util.org'>Arté Util</a> to learn more.<br/><br/>SHOW NOTES:</p><p>0:02:20 overview of Arté Util</p><p>0:08:00 projects prior to Arté Util</p><p>0:14:00 Arté Util archive and museum</p><p>0:24:00 museum 3.0 </p><p>0:24:30 vocabulary created for Arté Util</p><p>0:32:00 ‘expert culture’ term to be retired</p><p>0:36:00 the work of Dr. Gemma Medina and Alessandra Saviotti under the lens of usership</p><p>0:46:00 project applications</p><p>0:51:00 <em>Please Love Austria</em> project and <em>Foreigners Out</em> film </p><p>0:57:45 Alternative Energy Argentinian project</p><p>1:01:45 why art should be put into useful aspect</p><p>1:04:15 how Arté Util facilitates justice through its collaborative aspect</p><p>1:06:00 U.S. prisoners photo project</p><p><br/></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <title>Glance at Culture - The Art Unit Founder Mariia Kashchenko on Making Art Accessible, Ukraine&#39;s Culture &amp; Heritage, and Art In Times of War</title>
    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Send us Fan Mail To learn more, please visit The Art Unit's website.  SHOW NOTES:          1:40 reason for founding The Art Unit to make art more accessible for collectors and creatives 4:45 Ukrainian artist Nataliia Verbova based in Germany 5:00 Ukrainian artist Margo Sarkisova fled Eastern Ukraine in 2014 and recently fled Kharkiv 5:30 Ukrainian artist Bohdan Svyrydov 7:00 Ukrainian artist Sergiy Kondratiuk and his series of Soviet porcelain figurines 10:15 Challeng...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>To learn more, please visit <a href='https://theartunit.com'>The Art Unit&apos;s website.</a><br/><br/>SHOW NOTES:         </p><p>1:40 reason for founding The Art Unit to make art more accessible for collectors and creatives</p><p>4:45 Ukrainian artist Nataliia Verbova based in Germany</p><p>5:00 Ukrainian artist Margo Sarkisova fled Eastern Ukraine in 2014 and recently fled Kharkiv</p><p>5:30 Ukrainian artist Bohdan Svyrydov</p><p>7:00 Ukrainian artist Sergiy Kondratiuk and his series of Soviet porcelain figurines</p><p>10:15 Challenges Ukrainians face with misappropriation of culture</p><p>12:50<em> The Gates of Europe</em> by Ukrainian historian Serhii Plokhy </p><p>13:40 Ukrainian poet Taras Shevchenko</p><p>14:15 weaponization of culture and history</p><p>14:45 works by Ukrainian artist Maria Prymachenko damaged by Russian war</p><p>16:00 oppression of Ukrainian culture and history</p><p>17:20 <em>Homeward</em> by directed by Nariman Aliev and Crimean Tartars</p><p>18:35 Importance of art in times of war</p><p>19:20 Ukrainian artist Olena Shtepura</p><p>19:50 Ukrainian artist Polina Shcherbyna </p><p>20:15 Charcoal swirl mother and child</p><p>20:25 Artists acting as a conscience for society</p><p>21:20 Ukrainian artist Margo Sarkisova’s war diary – works on paper employing symbolic imagery</p><p>22:40 utility of art versus photography </p><p>24:00 war photographer Maksim Levin</p><p>24:40 Timur Dzhafarov aka John Object’s war diary on Instagram</p><p>26:00 The Art Unit’s impact on culture by helping to raise the voices of emerging artists</p><p>28:00 Change in her definition of justice</p><p>30:00 Russian propaganda that war is only targeting military bases </p><p>31:10 art addressing war by Olena Shtepura</p><p>31:20 art addressing war by Polina Shcherbyna with real &amp; surreal imagery</p><p>32:00 works to come that will interprete the war as the war will continue to be a main topic</p><p>33:00 multiple generations of Ukrainians have experienced war</p><p>33:20 art creating the language to go forward with Russia as the neighbor after the war </p><p>35:45 looting during the war</p><p>36:15 how to deal with the destruction of Ukraine when she returns</p><p><br/></p><p><br/></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>To learn more, please visit <a href='https://theartunit.com'>The Art Unit&apos;s website.</a><br/><br/>SHOW NOTES:         </p><p>1:40 reason for founding The Art Unit to make art more accessible for collectors and creatives</p><p>4:45 Ukrainian artist Nataliia Verbova based in Germany</p><p>5:00 Ukrainian artist Margo Sarkisova fled Eastern Ukraine in 2014 and recently fled Kharkiv</p><p>5:30 Ukrainian artist Bohdan Svyrydov</p><p>7:00 Ukrainian artist Sergiy Kondratiuk and his series of Soviet porcelain figurines</p><p>10:15 Challenges Ukrainians face with misappropriation of culture</p><p>12:50<em> The Gates of Europe</em> by Ukrainian historian Serhii Plokhy </p><p>13:40 Ukrainian poet Taras Shevchenko</p><p>14:15 weaponization of culture and history</p><p>14:45 works by Ukrainian artist Maria Prymachenko damaged by Russian war</p><p>16:00 oppression of Ukrainian culture and history</p><p>17:20 <em>Homeward</em> by directed by Nariman Aliev and Crimean Tartars</p><p>18:35 Importance of art in times of war</p><p>19:20 Ukrainian artist Olena Shtepura</p><p>19:50 Ukrainian artist Polina Shcherbyna </p><p>20:15 Charcoal swirl mother and child</p><p>20:25 Artists acting as a conscience for society</p><p>21:20 Ukrainian artist Margo Sarkisova’s war diary – works on paper employing symbolic imagery</p><p>22:40 utility of art versus photography </p><p>24:00 war photographer Maksim Levin</p><p>24:40 Timur Dzhafarov aka John Object’s war diary on Instagram</p><p>26:00 The Art Unit’s impact on culture by helping to raise the voices of emerging artists</p><p>28:00 Change in her definition of justice</p><p>30:00 Russian propaganda that war is only targeting military bases </p><p>31:10 art addressing war by Olena Shtepura</p><p>31:20 art addressing war by Polina Shcherbyna with real &amp; surreal imagery</p><p>32:00 works to come that will interprete the war as the war will continue to be a main topic</p><p>33:00 multiple generations of Ukrainians have experienced war</p><p>33:20 art creating the language to go forward with Russia as the neighbor after the war </p><p>35:45 looting during the war</p><p>36:15 how to deal with the destruction of Ukraine when she returns</p><p><br/></p><p><br/></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Send us Fan Mail The following are links used to prepare this episode:  https://thehistoryofpaintingrevisited.weebly.com/broncia-koller-pinell.html  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U49KvXAM-IY  https://jwa.org/encyclopedia/article/koller-pinell-broncia    Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com  Music by Toulme.  To hear more episodes, please visit Warfare of Art and Law podcast's website.  To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of ...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>The following are links used to prepare this episode:<br/><br/><a href='https://thehistoryofpaintingrevisited.weebly.com/broncia-koller-pinell.html'>https://thehistoryofpaintingrevisited.weebly.com/broncia-koller-pinell.html</a><br/><br/>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U49KvXAM-IY<br/><br/><a href='https://jwa.org/encyclopedia/article/koller-pinell-broncia'>https://jwa.org/encyclopedia/article/koller-pinell-broncia</a><br/><br/><br/></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>The following are links used to prepare this episode:<br/><br/><a href='https://thehistoryofpaintingrevisited.weebly.com/broncia-koller-pinell.html'>https://thehistoryofpaintingrevisited.weebly.com/broncia-koller-pinell.html</a><br/><br/>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U49KvXAM-IY<br/><br/><a href='https://jwa.org/encyclopedia/article/koller-pinell-broncia'>https://jwa.org/encyclopedia/article/koller-pinell-broncia</a><br/><br/><br/></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Send us Fan Mail The following are links to Nuremberg: The Trial of Nazi War Criminals, 4AM Kyiv Is Bombed, Mueller: Trump Tower Moscow and Reykjavik.  Show Notes:  0:42 war crimes in Ukraine and disappointment that America is not a member of the ICC. 3:00 Jonathan Myerson’s reasons for writing Nuremberg: the Trial of Nazi War Criminals 5:00 issues that almost kept Nuremberg trial from happening, including Winston Churchill’s disinterest in having a trial 7:45 Soviet Judgment at Nuremberg by ...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>The following are links to <a href='https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/brand/p09sgpfw'>Nuremberg: The Trial of Nazi War Criminals</a>, <a href='https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m0015tw8'>4AM Kyiv Is Bombed</a>, <a href='https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p070ndhg'>Mueller: Trump Tower Moscow</a> and <a href='https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b04k4022'>Reykjavik</a>.<br/><br/>Show Notes:<br/><br/>0:42 war crimes in Ukraine and disappointment that America is not a member of the ICC.</p><p>3:00 Jonathan Myerson’s reasons for writing <em>Nuremberg: the Trial of Nazi War Criminals</em></p><p>5:00 issues that almost kept Nuremberg trial from happening, including Winston Churchill’s disinterest in having a trial</p><p>7:45 <em>Soviet Judgment at Nuremberg</em> by Dr. Francine Hirsch </p><p>9:45 indictment of the wrong Krupp. </p><p>10:20 speed of the trial after VE Day in May 1945</p><p>11:35 one structural point for the <em>Nuremberg</em> podcast was to show the trial from the ground up</p><p>12:50 another structural point for the <em>Nuremberg</em> podcast was to focus on what the defendants caused in Europe not about the defendants </p><p>14:30 how witnesses were selected to include in the podcast</p><p>15:00 Episodes 5 and 6 include what it was like to hear from witnesses about the mass killing concentration camps for the first time </p><p>18:30 British bureaucratic coping in collection of evidence </p><p>20:00 Hadassah Binco, mother of Belsen – use of her testimony from the Belsen trial</p><p>21:30 Hermann Graebe’s testimony about witnessing mass shooting site in Ukraine</p><p>22:30 closing by British Chief Prosecutor Lord Hartley William Shawcross </p><p>24:45 feedback from <em>Nuremberg</em> podcast</p><p>27:00 <em>This Is Your country Too</em> podcast - seven plays about child refugees</p><p>29:00 Britian’s poor approach to accepting immigrants from Ukraine now and during WWII, Kindertransport</p><p>30:20 Lebanon, the Syrian army, Civil War </p><p>31:45 Ukraine podcast play, <em>4AM Kyiv is Bombed</em></p><p>33:30 Lviv otherwise known as Lemberg, otherwise known as Lvov</p><p>34:30 <em>Bloodlands</em> by Timothy Snyder</p><p>35:30 Ukrainian National Police Facebook page</p><p>37:30 his work serves to remind us about historical events</p><p>38:30 <em>Payback</em> about the 1973 Yom Kippur War and US’s decision to re-arm Israel</p><p>40:00 <em>Reykjavik</em> podcast - meeting between Reagan and Gorbachev </p><p>40:45 Francis Fukuyama&apos;s <em>End of History</em></p><p>41:30 Star Wars program</p><p>42:00 a wider understanding of justice </p><p><br/></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>The following are links to <a href='https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/brand/p09sgpfw'>Nuremberg: The Trial of Nazi War Criminals</a>, <a href='https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m0015tw8'>4AM Kyiv Is Bombed</a>, <a href='https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p070ndhg'>Mueller: Trump Tower Moscow</a> and <a href='https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b04k4022'>Reykjavik</a>.<br/><br/>Show Notes:<br/><br/>0:42 war crimes in Ukraine and disappointment that America is not a member of the ICC.</p><p>3:00 Jonathan Myerson’s reasons for writing <em>Nuremberg: the Trial of Nazi War Criminals</em></p><p>5:00 issues that almost kept Nuremberg trial from happening, including Winston Churchill’s disinterest in having a trial</p><p>7:45 <em>Soviet Judgment at Nuremberg</em> by Dr. Francine Hirsch </p><p>9:45 indictment of the wrong Krupp. </p><p>10:20 speed of the trial after VE Day in May 1945</p><p>11:35 one structural point for the <em>Nuremberg</em> podcast was to show the trial from the ground up</p><p>12:50 another structural point for the <em>Nuremberg</em> podcast was to focus on what the defendants caused in Europe not about the defendants </p><p>14:30 how witnesses were selected to include in the podcast</p><p>15:00 Episodes 5 and 6 include what it was like to hear from witnesses about the mass killing concentration camps for the first time </p><p>18:30 British bureaucratic coping in collection of evidence </p><p>20:00 Hadassah Binco, mother of Belsen – use of her testimony from the Belsen trial</p><p>21:30 Hermann Graebe’s testimony about witnessing mass shooting site in Ukraine</p><p>22:30 closing by British Chief Prosecutor Lord Hartley William Shawcross </p><p>24:45 feedback from <em>Nuremberg</em> podcast</p><p>27:00 <em>This Is Your country Too</em> podcast - seven plays about child refugees</p><p>29:00 Britian’s poor approach to accepting immigrants from Ukraine now and during WWII, Kindertransport</p><p>30:20 Lebanon, the Syrian army, Civil War </p><p>31:45 Ukraine podcast play, <em>4AM Kyiv is Bombed</em></p><p>33:30 Lviv otherwise known as Lemberg, otherwise known as Lvov</p><p>34:30 <em>Bloodlands</em> by Timothy Snyder</p><p>35:30 Ukrainian National Police Facebook page</p><p>37:30 his work serves to remind us about historical events</p><p>38:30 <em>Payback</em> about the 1973 Yom Kippur War and US’s decision to re-arm Israel</p><p>40:00 <em>Reykjavik</em> podcast - meeting between Reagan and Gorbachev </p><p>40:45 Francis Fukuyama&apos;s <em>End of History</em></p><p>41:30 Star Wars program</p><p>42:00 a wider understanding of justice </p><p><br/></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <title>2ND Saturday Art + Justice Bonus - Institute of Art &amp; Law&#39;s Assistant Director Emily Gould on Art, Propaganda and Russia&#39;s Invasion of Ukraine</title>
    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Send us Fan Mail Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com  Music by Toulme.  To hear more episodes, please visit Warfare of Art and Law podcast's website.  To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com.   Thanks so much for listening!   This podcast and its content may not be...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Send us Fan Mail  The following is the link to 4AM KYIV IS BOMBED.    Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com  Music by Toulme.  To hear more episodes, please visit Warfare of Art and Law podcast's website.  To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com.   Thanks so much for...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p><br/>The following is the link to <a href='https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m0015tw8'>4AM KYIV IS BOMBED</a>.<br/><br/><br/></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p><br/>The following is the link to <a href='https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m0015tw8'>4AM KYIV IS BOMBED</a>.<br/><br/><br/></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <itunes:title>Glance at Culture - Ukrainian-American Artist Mira Hnatyshyn on Ukrainian History &amp; Heritage, Art as Protest and Creating a Community of Empathy</itunes:title>
    <title>Glance at Culture - Ukrainian-American Artist Mira Hnatyshyn on Ukrainian History &amp; Heritage, Art as Protest and Creating a Community of Empathy</title>
    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Send us Fan Mail Cover Image: Freedom Holding Bread, Mira Hnatyshyn (2022)  To learn more, please visit Mira Hnatyshyn's website.  SHOW NOTES 2:15 Hnatyshyn’s work focused on identity, gender roles and cultural constructs  3:00 influence of her Ukrainian culture and history 4:00 travels to Ukraine inspired The Braid Basket  4:40 Revolution of Dignity 8:00 Orange Revolution  10:00 work in reaction to Russia’s recent invasion of Ukraine 11:30 Ukrainian flag’s meaning 12:45 Pieta inspi...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>Cover Image: <em>Freedom Holding Bread</em>, Mira Hnatyshyn (2022)<br/><br/>To learn more, please visit <a href='http://www.mirahnatyshyn.com'>Mira Hnatyshyn&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>SHOW NOTES</p><p>2:15 Hnatyshyn’s work focused on identity, gender roles and cultural constructs </p><p>3:00 influence of her Ukrainian culture and history</p><p>4:00 travels to Ukraine inspired <em>The Braid Basket </em></p><p>4:40 Revolution of Dignity</p><p>8:00 Orange Revolution<br/><br/>10:00 work in reaction to Russia’s recent invasion of Ukraine</p><p>11:30 Ukrainian flag’s meaning</p><p>12:45 Pieta inspired<em> Freedom Holding Bread</em></p><p>13:45 <em>Fatal Run-Kyiv</em></p><p>15:40 abstract painting <em>Red</em></p><p>17:15 military exercises preceded invasion</p><p>18:30 Mariupol theatre bombing of children, діти</p><p>20:50 message with paintings of empathy, knowledge, truth and justice</p><p>22:10 feedback from paintings </p><p>22:40 painting titled Orange Revolution aka Invasion</p><p>24:30 art during war / potential for using art as protest</p><p>26:15 justice as a principle of fairness</p><p>26:45 hope for her work to facilitate justice and/or addressing injustice by not silencing empathy or truth </p><p>27:45 artists creating a community of empathy with their work</p><p>28:35 her message to those impacted by war and atrocity</p><p><br/></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>Cover Image: <em>Freedom Holding Bread</em>, Mira Hnatyshyn (2022)<br/><br/>To learn more, please visit <a href='http://www.mirahnatyshyn.com'>Mira Hnatyshyn&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>SHOW NOTES</p><p>2:15 Hnatyshyn’s work focused on identity, gender roles and cultural constructs </p><p>3:00 influence of her Ukrainian culture and history</p><p>4:00 travels to Ukraine inspired <em>The Braid Basket </em></p><p>4:40 Revolution of Dignity</p><p>8:00 Orange Revolution<br/><br/>10:00 work in reaction to Russia’s recent invasion of Ukraine</p><p>11:30 Ukrainian flag’s meaning</p><p>12:45 Pieta inspired<em> Freedom Holding Bread</em></p><p>13:45 <em>Fatal Run-Kyiv</em></p><p>15:40 abstract painting <em>Red</em></p><p>17:15 military exercises preceded invasion</p><p>18:30 Mariupol theatre bombing of children, діти</p><p>20:50 message with paintings of empathy, knowledge, truth and justice</p><p>22:10 feedback from paintings </p><p>22:40 painting titled Orange Revolution aka Invasion</p><p>24:30 art during war / potential for using art as protest</p><p>26:15 justice as a principle of fairness</p><p>26:45 hope for her work to facilitate justice and/or addressing injustice by not silencing empathy or truth </p><p>27:45 artists creating a community of empathy with their work</p><p>28:35 her message to those impacted by war and atrocity</p><p><br/></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <itunes:title>Artists At Risk *Alert* Bonus - Ukrainian Theater Director Oleksandr Kniga </itunes:title>
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    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Send us Fan Mail For more information, please visit the Artists at Risk website.   The following is a link to an article about the Russian military's taking of Oleksandr Kniga by the Washington Times.   Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com  Music by Toulme.  To hear more episodes, please visit Warfare of Art and Law podcast's website.  To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the ...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>For more information, please visit the <a href='https://diasp.org/u/artistsatrisk'>Artists at Risk website</a>. <br/><br/>The following is a link to an article about the Russian military&apos;s taking of Oleksandr Kniga by the <a href='https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2022/mar/23/oleksandr-kniga-theater-director-seized-russians-u/'>Washington Times</a>.<br/><br/></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>For more information, please visit the <a href='https://diasp.org/u/artistsatrisk'>Artists at Risk website</a>. <br/><br/>The following is a link to an article about the Russian military&apos;s taking of Oleksandr Kniga by the <a href='https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2022/mar/23/oleksandr-kniga-theater-director-seized-russians-u/'>Washington Times</a>.<br/><br/></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <title>Scrivener&#39;s Gazette Bonus - Ukrainian Artist Maria Prymachenko</title>
    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Send us Fan Mail The following are links used in preparation of this episode: https://www.ladbible.com/news/expert-explains-how-to-properly-pronounce-ukrainian-capital-city-kyiv-20220312 https://adamovskiy.foundation/en/works/prymachenko-mariya/ https://www.cnn.com/style/article/maria-prymachenko-paintings-ukraine-peace-symbol/index.html https://theculturetrip.com/europe/ukraine/articles/the-most-inspiring-women-in-ukrainian-history/ https://findatwiki.com/Maria_Prymachenko https://www.messyn...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>The following are links used in preparation of this episode:<br/><a href='https://www.ladbible.com/news/expert-explains-how-to-properly-pronounce-ukrainian-capital-city-kyiv-20220312'>https://www.ladbible.com/news/expert-explains-how-to-properly-pronounce-ukrainian-capital-city-kyiv-20220312</a></p><p><a href='https://adamovskiy.foundation/en/works/prymachenko-mariya/'><b>https://adamovskiy.foundation/en/works/prymachenko-mariya/</b></a></p><p><a href='https://www.cnn.com/style/article/maria-prymachenko-paintings-ukraine-peace-symbol/index.html'><b>https://www.cnn.com/style/article/maria-prymachenko-paintings-ukraine-peace-symbol/index.html</b></a></p><p><a href='https://theculturetrip.com/europe/ukraine/articles/the-most-inspiring-women-in-ukrainian-history/'><b>https://theculturetrip.com/europe/ukraine/articles/the-most-inspiring-women-in-ukrainian-history/</b></a></p><p><a href='https://findatwiki.com/Maria_Prymachenko'>https://findatwiki.com/Maria_Prymachenko</a></p><p><a href='https://www.messynessychic.com/2022/03/04/she-was-ukraines-folk-art-heroine/'>https://www.messynessychic.com/2022/03/04/she-was-ukraines-folk-art-heroine/</a></p><p><br/></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>The following are links used in preparation of this episode:<br/><a href='https://www.ladbible.com/news/expert-explains-how-to-properly-pronounce-ukrainian-capital-city-kyiv-20220312'>https://www.ladbible.com/news/expert-explains-how-to-properly-pronounce-ukrainian-capital-city-kyiv-20220312</a></p><p><a href='https://adamovskiy.foundation/en/works/prymachenko-mariya/'><b>https://adamovskiy.foundation/en/works/prymachenko-mariya/</b></a></p><p><a href='https://www.cnn.com/style/article/maria-prymachenko-paintings-ukraine-peace-symbol/index.html'><b>https://www.cnn.com/style/article/maria-prymachenko-paintings-ukraine-peace-symbol/index.html</b></a></p><p><a href='https://theculturetrip.com/europe/ukraine/articles/the-most-inspiring-women-in-ukrainian-history/'><b>https://theculturetrip.com/europe/ukraine/articles/the-most-inspiring-women-in-ukrainian-history/</b></a></p><p><a href='https://findatwiki.com/Maria_Prymachenko'>https://findatwiki.com/Maria_Prymachenko</a></p><p><a href='https://www.messynessychic.com/2022/03/04/she-was-ukraines-folk-art-heroine/'>https://www.messynessychic.com/2022/03/04/she-was-ukraines-folk-art-heroine/</a></p><p><br/></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Send us Fan Mail The interview with Irina Tarsis took place before the Russian invasion of Ukraine. Irina is a Russian-speaking American, with Ukrainian and Jewish roots. The events we are witnessing now in connection with the war in Ukraine are heartbreaking. Glory and Peace to Ukraine and Forgiveness and Awakening to Russia.  Cover art: photograph taken in Kyiv art gallery/store circa 2020 by Irina Tarsis.  To support the Center for Art Law’s mission and to learn more about its offerings, p...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>The interview with Irina Tarsis took place before the Russian invasion of Ukraine. Irina is a Russian-speaking American, with Ukrainian and Jewish roots. The events we are witnessing now in connection with the war in Ukraine are heartbreaking. Glory and Peace to Ukraine and Forgiveness and Awakening to Russia.<br/><br/>Cover art: photograph taken in Kyiv art gallery/store circa 2020 by Irina Tarsis.<br/><br/>To support the Center for Art Law’s mission and to learn more about its offerings, please visit <a href='https://itsartlaw.org'>the Center for Art Law’s website</a>. <br/><br/>SHOW NOTES:<br/><br/>0:00  Irina Tarsis’ decision to attend law school to study art law</p><p>1:42  Tarsis’ reasons for pursuing art law</p><p>3:05 her work with Soviet nationalizations in the context of law libraries</p><p>4:15 Tarsis began studing art history </p><p>4:34  Founding Center for Art Law </p><p>5:17  Center’s growth </p><p>7:20  Center’s Judith Bresler Fellowship </p><p>9:24  Center’s legacy and estate planning clinic </p><p>12:51  clinic’s artists feature series. </p><p>13:42  Artist Molly Dougenis </p><p>14:16  Dougenis’ estate planning</p><p>15:00  next clinic about artists dealer relationships with a focus on New York law and will include resale royalty.</p><p>16:44  recent NFT case filed in Southern District of New York that involves the Guernica of India </p><p>17:30  many contracts include reference to all future media now known or to be to be invented down the line </p><p>18:00 suit involving Quentin Tarantin’s attempt to mint NFTs </p><p>18:48 future cases in art law </p><p>20:33 teaching at Sotheby&apos;s and FIT</p><p>23:09  Tarsis’ work with the European Shoah Legacy Institute</p><p>24:15  provenance research </p><p>26:50 Portrait of Wally </p><p>28:00  Center’s future mission</p><p>30:16 Knoedler Gallery story </p><p>31:45  idea for a Knoedler award </p><p>33:03  creation of a community of artists, art fans, art aficionados, and collectors and attorneys</p><p>34:30 fundraising efforts</p><p>36:13  career positions in art law<br/><br/></p><p><br/></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>The interview with Irina Tarsis took place before the Russian invasion of Ukraine. Irina is a Russian-speaking American, with Ukrainian and Jewish roots. The events we are witnessing now in connection with the war in Ukraine are heartbreaking. Glory and Peace to Ukraine and Forgiveness and Awakening to Russia.<br/><br/>Cover art: photograph taken in Kyiv art gallery/store circa 2020 by Irina Tarsis.<br/><br/>To support the Center for Art Law’s mission and to learn more about its offerings, please visit <a href='https://itsartlaw.org'>the Center for Art Law’s website</a>. <br/><br/>SHOW NOTES:<br/><br/>0:00  Irina Tarsis’ decision to attend law school to study art law</p><p>1:42  Tarsis’ reasons for pursuing art law</p><p>3:05 her work with Soviet nationalizations in the context of law libraries</p><p>4:15 Tarsis began studing art history </p><p>4:34  Founding Center for Art Law </p><p>5:17  Center’s growth </p><p>7:20  Center’s Judith Bresler Fellowship </p><p>9:24  Center’s legacy and estate planning clinic </p><p>12:51  clinic’s artists feature series. </p><p>13:42  Artist Molly Dougenis </p><p>14:16  Dougenis’ estate planning</p><p>15:00  next clinic about artists dealer relationships with a focus on New York law and will include resale royalty.</p><p>16:44  recent NFT case filed in Southern District of New York that involves the Guernica of India </p><p>17:30  many contracts include reference to all future media now known or to be to be invented down the line </p><p>18:00 suit involving Quentin Tarantin’s attempt to mint NFTs </p><p>18:48 future cases in art law </p><p>20:33 teaching at Sotheby&apos;s and FIT</p><p>23:09  Tarsis’ work with the European Shoah Legacy Institute</p><p>24:15  provenance research </p><p>26:50 Portrait of Wally </p><p>28:00  Center’s future mission</p><p>30:16 Knoedler Gallery story </p><p>31:45  idea for a Knoedler award </p><p>33:03  creation of a community of artists, art fans, art aficionados, and collectors and attorneys</p><p>34:30 fundraising efforts</p><p>36:13  career positions in art law<br/><br/></p><p><br/></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <itunes:title>2ND Saturday Art + Justice Bonus - Artist &amp; Attorney Andrew Smith on the Meaning of Justice and the Purity of Art</itunes:title>
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    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Send us Fan Mail The featured image is titled My Mississippi Morning, Andrew Smith. Image: © and TM Andrew Smith. All rights reserved.   Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com  Music by Toulme.  To hear more episodes, please visit Warfare of Art and Law podcast's website.  To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please messag...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>The featured image is titled <em>My Mississippi Morning</em>, Andrew Smith. Image: © and TM Andrew Smith. All rights reserved.<br/><br/></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>The featured image is titled <em>My Mississippi Morning</em>, Andrew Smith. Image: © and TM Andrew Smith. All rights reserved.<br/><br/></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Send us Fan Mail Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com  Music by Toulme.  To hear more episodes, please visit Warfare of Art and Law podcast's website.  To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com.   Thanks so much for listening!   This podcast and its content may not be...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <itunes:title>Scrivener&#39;s Gazette Bonus - Dr. Eugenie Schwarzwald, Ukrainian-Born Educator &amp; Philanthropist</itunes:title>
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    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Send us Fan Mail The following are links used in preparation of this episode:  https://forbiddenmusic.org/2014/06/23/the-woman-who-educated-vienna-eugenie-schwarzwald-1872-1940/ https://www.encyclopedia.com/women/encyclopedias-almanacs-transcripts-and-maps/schwarzwald-eugenie-1872-1940 To view rewards for supporting the podcast, please visit Warfare's Patreon page.  To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast, please call 1.929.260.4942 or email Stephanie@warfar...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>The following are links used in preparation of this episode:<br/><br/><a href='https://forbiddenmusic.org/2014/06/23/the-woman-who-educated-vienna-eugenie-schwarzwald-1872-1940/'>https://forbiddenmusic.org/2014/06/23/the-woman-who-educated-vienna-eugenie-schwarzwald-1872-1940/</a></p><p><a href='https://www.encyclopedia.com/women/encyclopedias-almanacs-transcripts-and-maps/schwarzwald-eugenie-1872-1940'>https://www.encyclopedia.com/women/encyclopedias-almanacs-transcripts-and-maps/schwarzwald-eugenie-1872-1940</a></p><p>To view rewards for supporting the podcast, please visit <a href='https://www.patreon.com/warfareofartandlaw'>Warfare&apos;s Patreon page</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast, please call 1.929.260.4942 or email Stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2022]</p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>The following are links used in preparation of this episode:<br/><br/><a href='https://forbiddenmusic.org/2014/06/23/the-woman-who-educated-vienna-eugenie-schwarzwald-1872-1940/'>https://forbiddenmusic.org/2014/06/23/the-woman-who-educated-vienna-eugenie-schwarzwald-1872-1940/</a></p><p><a href='https://www.encyclopedia.com/women/encyclopedias-almanacs-transcripts-and-maps/schwarzwald-eugenie-1872-1940'>https://www.encyclopedia.com/women/encyclopedias-almanacs-transcripts-and-maps/schwarzwald-eugenie-1872-1940</a></p><p>To view rewards for supporting the podcast, please visit <a href='https://www.patreon.com/warfareofartandlaw'>Warfare&apos;s Patreon page</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast, please call 1.929.260.4942 or email Stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2022]</p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Send us Fan Mail For more information, please visit the website of Jai Chakrabarti.  SHOW NOTES: 2:15 Chakrabarti’s inspiration for A Play For the End of the World 3:30 Rabindranath Tagore’s play The Post Office 8:00 memoir by survivor of Janusz Korczak’s orphanage titled The Last Korczak Boy 8:30 injustices in 1942 Warsaw  10:00 The Post Office performed in 1940s Warsaw to uplift compared with exploitation through its performance in 1970s India  11:15 Chakrabarti’s inspiration from...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>For more information, please visit the website of <a href='https://jaichakrabarti.com'>Jai Chakrabarti</a>.<br/><br/>SHOW NOTES:</p><p>2:15 Chakrabarti’s inspiration for <em>A Play For the End of the World</em></p><p>3:30 Rabindranath Tagore’s play <em>The Post Office</em></p><p>8:00 memoir by survivor of Janusz Korczak’s orphanage titled <em>The Last Korczak Boy</em></p><p>8:30 injustices in 1942 Warsaw </p><p>10:00 <em>The Post Office</em> performed in 1940s Warsaw to uplift compared with exploitation through its performance in 1970s India </p><p>11:15 Chakrabarti’s inspiration from Tagore’s play </p><p>12:20 theme of intergeneration trauma in Chakrabarti’s book</p><p>13:20 Bessel van der Kolk’s <em>The Body Keeps the Score </em>and Rabbi Dr. Firestone’s <em>Wounds Into Wisdom: Healing Intergenerational Jewish Trauma</em></p><p>14:30 assumption that gravity of the book would be 1942 Warsaw</p><p>16:00 research for book</p><p>17:15 Jhumpa Lahiri’s <em>The Lowland</em></p><p>17:40 Lawrence Langer’s collection titled <em>Art From the Ashes</em></p><p>18:25 character journaling process</p><p>19:30 questions asked of characters</p><p>21:00 reader feedback</p><p>22:30 value of art in times of conflict as a healing balm</p><p>23:30 Tagore poem translated into a Yiddish song in 1930s Warsaw</p><p>24:45 challenges of dual timelines in <em>A Play For the End of the World</em></p><p>26:00 thematic repetition edited out</p><p>27:15 most revised scene during escape from train en route to Treblinka</p><p>28:30 social justice aspect of <em>A Play For the End of the World</em></p><p>29:30 recommendation of collected short stories by Tagore</p><p>30:00 <em>A Home In The World</em> by Tagore</p><p>30:30 <em>The Foreign Student</em> by Susan Choi</p><p>30:50 <em>The Lowland</em></p><p>31:40 use of a system in drafting a dual timeline novel</p><p>32:15 reason for writing story as a novel versus short story</p><p>33:30 death of Archbishop Desmond Tutu</p><p>33:40 music of Miriam Makeba and Hugh Masekela used to end apartheid</p><p>34:00 each piece of art can allow for conditions by which social change can occur</p><p>35:40 Playwright Safdar Hashmi whose theatre work in the 1960s and 70s <em>directly advocated</em> for economic and social improvement for the laborers of India</p><p><br/><br/></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>For more information, please visit the website of <a href='https://jaichakrabarti.com'>Jai Chakrabarti</a>.<br/><br/>SHOW NOTES:</p><p>2:15 Chakrabarti’s inspiration for <em>A Play For the End of the World</em></p><p>3:30 Rabindranath Tagore’s play <em>The Post Office</em></p><p>8:00 memoir by survivor of Janusz Korczak’s orphanage titled <em>The Last Korczak Boy</em></p><p>8:30 injustices in 1942 Warsaw </p><p>10:00 <em>The Post Office</em> performed in 1940s Warsaw to uplift compared with exploitation through its performance in 1970s India </p><p>11:15 Chakrabarti’s inspiration from Tagore’s play </p><p>12:20 theme of intergeneration trauma in Chakrabarti’s book</p><p>13:20 Bessel van der Kolk’s <em>The Body Keeps the Score </em>and Rabbi Dr. Firestone’s <em>Wounds Into Wisdom: Healing Intergenerational Jewish Trauma</em></p><p>14:30 assumption that gravity of the book would be 1942 Warsaw</p><p>16:00 research for book</p><p>17:15 Jhumpa Lahiri’s <em>The Lowland</em></p><p>17:40 Lawrence Langer’s collection titled <em>Art From the Ashes</em></p><p>18:25 character journaling process</p><p>19:30 questions asked of characters</p><p>21:00 reader feedback</p><p>22:30 value of art in times of conflict as a healing balm</p><p>23:30 Tagore poem translated into a Yiddish song in 1930s Warsaw</p><p>24:45 challenges of dual timelines in <em>A Play For the End of the World</em></p><p>26:00 thematic repetition edited out</p><p>27:15 most revised scene during escape from train en route to Treblinka</p><p>28:30 social justice aspect of <em>A Play For the End of the World</em></p><p>29:30 recommendation of collected short stories by Tagore</p><p>30:00 <em>A Home In The World</em> by Tagore</p><p>30:30 <em>The Foreign Student</em> by Susan Choi</p><p>30:50 <em>The Lowland</em></p><p>31:40 use of a system in drafting a dual timeline novel</p><p>32:15 reason for writing story as a novel versus short story</p><p>33:30 death of Archbishop Desmond Tutu</p><p>33:40 music of Miriam Makeba and Hugh Masekela used to end apartheid</p><p>34:00 each piece of art can allow for conditions by which social change can occur</p><p>35:40 Playwright Safdar Hashmi whose theatre work in the 1960s and 70s <em>directly advocated</em> for economic and social improvement for the laborers of India</p><p><br/><br/></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <description><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>The featured image is titled <em>Ahh</em>...<em>Youth</em>! (2015 - ongoing), Sergio Muñoz Sarmiento. Ink jet print. Image: © and TM Sergio Muñoz Sarmiento. All rights reserved.<br/><br/><br/></p><p>For more information, please visit the websites for <a href='http://www.sergiomunozsarmiento.com/'>Sergio Muñoz Sarmiento</a> and <a href='http://www.artlawprogram.com'>The Art &amp; Law Program</a>.<br/><br/>0:06  routes taken by students wanting to pursue art law <br/><br/>1:00 “gatekeepers” of art law<br/><br/></p><p>3:00  Sergio Sarmiento’s experience practicing art seriously since 1992, <br/><br/></p><p>3:45 global expansion of art law practice <br/><br/></p><p>4:10 former student in Seoul, Korea applying to law school there to do art law in Korea <br/><br/></p><p>5:00 artists’ reliance on the law<br/><br/></p><p>6:00  protecting artist&apos;s rights through contract, as opposed to encouraging federal legislation in relation to resale royalties.<br/><br/></p><p>7:25  NFTs denied definition as art.    <br/><br/></p><p>9:10 reason for picking medium of NFT <br/><br/></p><p>10:25 1970s pet rock <br/><br/></p><p>13:00 1992 undergrad at the University of Texas at El Paso <br/><br/></p><p>14:30 1995 CalArts <br/><br/></p><p>15:25 teaching at University of Southern California <br/><br/></p><p>15:50 focus on the concept of private property and public property<br/><br/></p><p>16:15 originally applied to law school as an art project<br/><br/></p><p>16:50 springboard for creating The Art &amp; Law Program occurred during law school <br/><br/></p><p>18:20 evolution of The Art &amp; Law Program’s mission since 2010<br/><br/></p><p>22:35  skeptical now of art that that attempts or believes that it is critiquing the system<br/><br/></p><p>26:40 the necessity of the political mural <br/><br/></p><p>29:40 how his perspective has changed on what is art and its value <br/><br/></p><p>34:00  book project<br/><br/></p><p>36:20  National Basketball Association NFTs and terms of service<br/><br/></p><p>39:00   Art &amp; Law Coloring Book <br/><br/></p><p>44:20 how culture and justice addressed in Program<br/><br/></p><p>45:35 justice shown by example through cases read <br/><br/></p><p>45:50 how justice is defined <br/><br/></p><p>46:10 is justice provisional and bridge <br/><br/></p><p>46:35 if justice is unachievable, is that why people are in a perpetual state of misery<br/><br/></p><p>47:00 diversity in Program<br/><br/></p><p>48:00 current cultural powers thwarting or facilitating justice <br/><br/></p><p>49:00 museums’ use of their cultural power with social projects <br/><br/></p><p>50:00 if art is everything, then art is nothing. If museums are everything, then museums are nothing. <br/><br/></p><p>50:30  lecturer of The Art &amp; Law Program questioning artist&apos;s work about immigration<br/><br/></p><p>52:15 plumbing services as art<br/><br/></p><p>53:30 acceptance of other forms or types of artistic activity doing social good institutionalizes that practice<br/><br/></p><p>54:45 what he would do differently would go back to 1997<br/><br/></p><p>56:10 impact he hope that his work, including the work with the Program, makes<br/><br/></p><p>56:30 practice as artist without institutional affiliation<br/><br/></p><p><br/></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>The featured image is titled <em>Ahh</em>...<em>Youth</em>! (2015 - ongoing), Sergio Muñoz Sarmiento. Ink jet print. Image: © and TM Sergio Muñoz Sarmiento. All rights reserved.<br/><br/><br/></p><p>For more information, please visit the websites for <a href='http://www.sergiomunozsarmiento.com/'>Sergio Muñoz Sarmiento</a> and <a href='http://www.artlawprogram.com'>The Art &amp; Law Program</a>.<br/><br/>0:06  routes taken by students wanting to pursue art law <br/><br/>1:00 “gatekeepers” of art law<br/><br/></p><p>3:00  Sergio Sarmiento’s experience practicing art seriously since 1992, <br/><br/></p><p>3:45 global expansion of art law practice <br/><br/></p><p>4:10 former student in Seoul, Korea applying to law school there to do art law in Korea <br/><br/></p><p>5:00 artists’ reliance on the law<br/><br/></p><p>6:00  protecting artist&apos;s rights through contract, as opposed to encouraging federal legislation in relation to resale royalties.<br/><br/></p><p>7:25  NFTs denied definition as art.    <br/><br/></p><p>9:10 reason for picking medium of NFT <br/><br/></p><p>10:25 1970s pet rock <br/><br/></p><p>13:00 1992 undergrad at the University of Texas at El Paso <br/><br/></p><p>14:30 1995 CalArts <br/><br/></p><p>15:25 teaching at University of Southern California <br/><br/></p><p>15:50 focus on the concept of private property and public property<br/><br/></p><p>16:15 originally applied to law school as an art project<br/><br/></p><p>16:50 springboard for creating The Art &amp; Law Program occurred during law school <br/><br/></p><p>18:20 evolution of The Art &amp; Law Program’s mission since 2010<br/><br/></p><p>22:35  skeptical now of art that that attempts or believes that it is critiquing the system<br/><br/></p><p>26:40 the necessity of the political mural <br/><br/></p><p>29:40 how his perspective has changed on what is art and its value <br/><br/></p><p>34:00  book project<br/><br/></p><p>36:20  National Basketball Association NFTs and terms of service<br/><br/></p><p>39:00   Art &amp; Law Coloring Book <br/><br/></p><p>44:20 how culture and justice addressed in Program<br/><br/></p><p>45:35 justice shown by example through cases read <br/><br/></p><p>45:50 how justice is defined <br/><br/></p><p>46:10 is justice provisional and bridge <br/><br/></p><p>46:35 if justice is unachievable, is that why people are in a perpetual state of misery<br/><br/></p><p>47:00 diversity in Program<br/><br/></p><p>48:00 current cultural powers thwarting or facilitating justice <br/><br/></p><p>49:00 museums’ use of their cultural power with social projects <br/><br/></p><p>50:00 if art is everything, then art is nothing. If museums are everything, then museums are nothing. <br/><br/></p><p>50:30  lecturer of The Art &amp; Law Program questioning artist&apos;s work about immigration<br/><br/></p><p>52:15 plumbing services as art<br/><br/></p><p>53:30 acceptance of other forms or types of artistic activity doing social good institutionalizes that practice<br/><br/></p><p>54:45 what he would do differently would go back to 1997<br/><br/></p><p>56:10 impact he hope that his work, including the work with the Program, makes<br/><br/></p><p>56:30 practice as artist without institutional affiliation<br/><br/></p><p><br/></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <itunes:title>2ND Saturday Art + Justice Bonus: Barrister Alan Robertshaw on UK Law Related To Art as Protest and Free Speech</itunes:title>
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    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Send us Fan Mail Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com  Music by Toulme.  To hear more episodes, please visit Warfare of Art and Law podcast's website.  To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com.   Thanks so much for listening!   This podcast and its content may not be...]]></itunes:summary>
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    <itunes:title>Glance at Culture - Terezín Music Foundation: Mark Ludwig on his new book Our Will To Live, Social Justice and the Holocaust</itunes:title>
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    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Send us Fan Mail To learn more, please visit the websites of Terezín Music Foundation and its project Our Will to Live.  SHOW NOTES: 00:02:45 Foundation of Terezín Music Foundation 00:06:30 Our Will To Live 00:08:30 Ullmann as guide through Terezin’s cultural community  00:09:35 Otto Weininger 00:12:20 Ullmann’s essays on Sigmund Schul included in Our Will To Live 00:13:30 Ullmann’s critiques of Carman and Verdi’s Requiem 00:14:45 Viktor Frankl 00:18:40 Council of Elders member Karel Her...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>To learn more, please visit the websites of <a href='https://www.terezinmusic.org'>Terezín Music Foundation</a> and its project <a href='https://www.our-will-to-live.org'>Our Will to Live</a>.<br/><br/>SHOW NOTES:<br/>00:02:45 Foundation of Terezín Music Foundation</p><p>00:06:30 <em>Our Will To Live</em></p><p>00:08:30 Ullmann as guide through Terezin’s cultural community </p><p>00:09:35 Otto Weininger</p><p>00:12:20 Ullmann’s essays on Sigmund Schul included in <em>Our Will To Live</em></p><p>00:13:30 Ullmann’s critiques of Carman and Verdi’s Requiem</p><p>00:14:45 Viktor Frankl</p><p>00:18:40 Council of Elders member Karel Herman</p><p>00:22:50 smuggling musical instruments</p><p>00:24:55 Ullmann’s critique of performance by Karel Švenk</p><p>00:26:05 knowledge of environment and history of creators enriches understanding of their work</p><p>00:26:10 George Horner</p><p>00:29:15 Yo-Yo Ma’s work with TMF</p><p>00:30:45 Yo-Yo Ma and George Horner’s performance at Boston’s Symphony Hall</p><p>00:32:45 Ludwig’s performance of Klein’s Lullabye for Dalai Lama at US Capital and in Sarajevo after seige</p><p>00:33:20 <em>Our Will To Live </em>as a work of historical justice</p><p>00:33:50 Primo Levy’s <em>The Drowned and The Saved</em></p><p>00:35:00 How tracks for <em>Our Will To Live </em>were choosen</p><p>00:35:40 Karel Berman&apos;s performance of “A Sleepless Night” from Four Songs on Chinese poetry</p><p>00:36:00 cabaret works by Karel Svenk</p><p>00:37:15 Tracks of the month by OWTL</p><p>00:38:15 TMF’s ‘Finding A Voice’ program curriculum</p><p>00:39:55 enabling individuals to find their voice </p><p>00:40:50 social justice and the voice of society</p><p>00:41:20 voices of Ullmann, Hans Krása,  Gideon Klein</p><p>00:42:05 Friedl Dicker-Brandeis </p><p>00:44:50 Pavel Haas’ “A Sleepless Night” from Four Songs on Chinese Poetry</p><p>00:46:20 Gideon Klein’s String Trio, Second movement</p><p>00:46:55 Ullmann’s Third String Quartet</p><p>00:47:40 Hans Krása’s children&apos;s opera Brundibar </p><p>00:48:10 Krása’s Passacaglia and Fugue for String Trio </p><p>00:48:50 Picasso’s <em>Guernica</em></p><p>00:49:30 Ullmann’s Don Quixote Overture </p><p>00:51:10 TMF’s legacy</p><p>00:55:40  Track 27 Viktor Ullmann, Third String Quartet [13:38] (Terezín, 1943)<br/>performed by Hawthorne String Quartet</p><p>01:09:45 Track 11 Gideon Klein, String Trio, Movement II — Theme and Variations [07:17] (Terezín, 1944), performed by Ronan Lefkowitz, violin; Mark Ludwig, viola; Sato Knudsen, cello</p><p>01:17:45 Track 12 Gideon Klein, String Trio, Movement III — Molto Vivace [03:04] (Terezín, 1944) performed by Ronan Lefkowitz, violin; Mark Ludwig, viola; Sato Knudsen, cello</p><p>01:21:05 Track 16 Pavel Haas, Four Songs on Chinese Poetry (for Karel Berman) “A Sleepless Night” (Han Yu [14:11] (Terezín, 1944) performed by Karel Berman, baritone, and Přemsyl Charnát, piano, November 1991 Czech Radio broadcast of a concert featuring Terezín composers in the Jewish Town Hall, Prague.</p><p>01:25:10 Track 29 Karel Švenk, “Why Does the Black Man Sit at the Back of the Car?” [01:16] (Terezín, 1943) Arrangement by David L. Post; performed by Thomas Martin, clarinet, and Hawthorne String Quartet<br/><br/></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>To learn more, please visit the websites of <a href='https://www.terezinmusic.org'>Terezín Music Foundation</a> and its project <a href='https://www.our-will-to-live.org'>Our Will to Live</a>.<br/><br/>SHOW NOTES:<br/>00:02:45 Foundation of Terezín Music Foundation</p><p>00:06:30 <em>Our Will To Live</em></p><p>00:08:30 Ullmann as guide through Terezin’s cultural community </p><p>00:09:35 Otto Weininger</p><p>00:12:20 Ullmann’s essays on Sigmund Schul included in <em>Our Will To Live</em></p><p>00:13:30 Ullmann’s critiques of Carman and Verdi’s Requiem</p><p>00:14:45 Viktor Frankl</p><p>00:18:40 Council of Elders member Karel Herman</p><p>00:22:50 smuggling musical instruments</p><p>00:24:55 Ullmann’s critique of performance by Karel Švenk</p><p>00:26:05 knowledge of environment and history of creators enriches understanding of their work</p><p>00:26:10 George Horner</p><p>00:29:15 Yo-Yo Ma’s work with TMF</p><p>00:30:45 Yo-Yo Ma and George Horner’s performance at Boston’s Symphony Hall</p><p>00:32:45 Ludwig’s performance of Klein’s Lullabye for Dalai Lama at US Capital and in Sarajevo after seige</p><p>00:33:20 <em>Our Will To Live </em>as a work of historical justice</p><p>00:33:50 Primo Levy’s <em>The Drowned and The Saved</em></p><p>00:35:00 How tracks for <em>Our Will To Live </em>were choosen</p><p>00:35:40 Karel Berman&apos;s performance of “A Sleepless Night” from Four Songs on Chinese poetry</p><p>00:36:00 cabaret works by Karel Svenk</p><p>00:37:15 Tracks of the month by OWTL</p><p>00:38:15 TMF’s ‘Finding A Voice’ program curriculum</p><p>00:39:55 enabling individuals to find their voice </p><p>00:40:50 social justice and the voice of society</p><p>00:41:20 voices of Ullmann, Hans Krása,  Gideon Klein</p><p>00:42:05 Friedl Dicker-Brandeis </p><p>00:44:50 Pavel Haas’ “A Sleepless Night” from Four Songs on Chinese Poetry</p><p>00:46:20 Gideon Klein’s String Trio, Second movement</p><p>00:46:55 Ullmann’s Third String Quartet</p><p>00:47:40 Hans Krása’s children&apos;s opera Brundibar </p><p>00:48:10 Krása’s Passacaglia and Fugue for String Trio </p><p>00:48:50 Picasso’s <em>Guernica</em></p><p>00:49:30 Ullmann’s Don Quixote Overture </p><p>00:51:10 TMF’s legacy</p><p>00:55:40  Track 27 Viktor Ullmann, Third String Quartet [13:38] (Terezín, 1943)<br/>performed by Hawthorne String Quartet</p><p>01:09:45 Track 11 Gideon Klein, String Trio, Movement II — Theme and Variations [07:17] (Terezín, 1944), performed by Ronan Lefkowitz, violin; Mark Ludwig, viola; Sato Knudsen, cello</p><p>01:17:45 Track 12 Gideon Klein, String Trio, Movement III — Molto Vivace [03:04] (Terezín, 1944) performed by Ronan Lefkowitz, violin; Mark Ludwig, viola; Sato Knudsen, cello</p><p>01:21:05 Track 16 Pavel Haas, Four Songs on Chinese Poetry (for Karel Berman) “A Sleepless Night” (Han Yu [14:11] (Terezín, 1944) performed by Karel Berman, baritone, and Přemsyl Charnát, piano, November 1991 Czech Radio broadcast of a concert featuring Terezín composers in the Jewish Town Hall, Prague.</p><p>01:25:10 Track 29 Karel Švenk, “Why Does the Black Man Sit at the Back of the Car?” [01:16] (Terezín, 1943) Arrangement by David L. Post; performed by Thomas Martin, clarinet, and Hawthorne String Quartet<br/><br/></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Send us Fan Mail Please visit the websites for Whitworth Art Gallery, Manchester Art Gallery, Decentralizing Political Economies, and Arte Útil to learn more.  2:00 Evolution Whitworth and Manchester Galleries’ mission 4:30 Use of art as a process for social change 5:00 Manchester Art Gallery 5:45 Whitworth Gallery 6:50 Healthy mind, body and spirit agenda 7:50 Platt Hall redevelopment 12:00 Pub as art center in Cumbria 14:00 Museum 3.0 16:30 Arte Útil and Cuban Artist Tania Bruguera  18...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>Please visit the websites for <a href='https://www.whitworth.manchester.ac.uk'>Whitworth Art Gallery</a>,<a href='https://manchesterartgallery.org'> Manchester Art Gallery</a>, <a href='https://dpe.tools'>Decentralizing Political Economies</a>, and <a href='https://www.arte-util.org'>Arte Útil </a>to learn more.<br/><br/>2:00 Evolution Whitworth and Manchester Galleries’ mission</p><p>4:30 Use of art as a process for social change</p><p>5:00 Manchester Art Gallery</p><p>5:45 Whitworth Gallery</p><p>6:50 Healthy mind, body and spirit agenda</p><p>7:50 Platt Hall redevelopment</p><p>12:00 Pub as art center in Cumbria</p><p>14:00 Museum 3.0</p><p>16:30 Arte Útil and Cuban Artist Tania Bruguera </p><p>18:10 Whitworth’s Office of Arte Útil</p><p>20:00 Aplicación Legal’s use of legal loopholes</p><p>20:58 Núria Güell’s Degenerate Art Protocol</p><p>22:00 Núria Güell’s project involving loophole that allowed occupation of Tower block in Spain after removing doors</p><p>23:30 Decentralizing Political Economies research platform</p><p>23:50<em> Joy Forever</em> exhibition – based on Social Reformer John Ruskin’s 1857 two-day lecture on economy as making the right conditions for living </p><p>24:55 Interplay between art and economy is fundamental to the way we develop society - how to see the world truthfully and then act ethically </p><p>25:25 Art defined as what’s done with care and consideration </p><p>26:05 <em>Economics the Blockbuster</em> exhibition</p><p>26:35 Reclaiming art as the operating system for our living conditions, as good housekeeping</p><p>27:50 Decentralizing Political Economies platform</p><p>28:30 NFT of William Blake’s <em>The Ancient of Days</em></p><p>30:40 Proceeds of Blake NFT to be used for social programmes</p><p>31:41 Story of NFT to be used in exhibition </p><p>33:15 U.S. Artist Suzanne Lacy’s current show at The Whitworth</p><p>34:05 SF MoMA’s version of a Suzanne Lacy retrospective</p><p>34:35 Lacy’s <em>What Kind of City? A Manual for Social Change</em></p><p>36:10 Lacy’s<em> Oakland Projects</em> to be used for a new project in Manchester to give youths agency</p><p>37:55 Lacy’s <em>Uncertain Futures</em> project to be used for better working rights for women over 50 years old </p><p>39:10 Capacity for change with individuals involved in and benefiting from these projects </p><p>42:30 These projects are elegant demonstrations of why art matters</p><p>42:50 Art world individuals who have a vested interest in the status quo are sometimes the ones who criticize these types of projects</p><p>43:20 Social justice at the center of these projects </p><p>43:50 The Whitworth and Manchester Galleries’ design as social instruments </p><p>44:10 The beauty of ethics and equitable relationships </p><p>45:00 Use of museums’ cultural power</p><p><br/></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>Please visit the websites for <a href='https://www.whitworth.manchester.ac.uk'>Whitworth Art Gallery</a>,<a href='https://manchesterartgallery.org'> Manchester Art Gallery</a>, <a href='https://dpe.tools'>Decentralizing Political Economies</a>, and <a href='https://www.arte-util.org'>Arte Útil </a>to learn more.<br/><br/>2:00 Evolution Whitworth and Manchester Galleries’ mission</p><p>4:30 Use of art as a process for social change</p><p>5:00 Manchester Art Gallery</p><p>5:45 Whitworth Gallery</p><p>6:50 Healthy mind, body and spirit agenda</p><p>7:50 Platt Hall redevelopment</p><p>12:00 Pub as art center in Cumbria</p><p>14:00 Museum 3.0</p><p>16:30 Arte Útil and Cuban Artist Tania Bruguera </p><p>18:10 Whitworth’s Office of Arte Útil</p><p>20:00 Aplicación Legal’s use of legal loopholes</p><p>20:58 Núria Güell’s Degenerate Art Protocol</p><p>22:00 Núria Güell’s project involving loophole that allowed occupation of Tower block in Spain after removing doors</p><p>23:30 Decentralizing Political Economies research platform</p><p>23:50<em> Joy Forever</em> exhibition – based on Social Reformer John Ruskin’s 1857 two-day lecture on economy as making the right conditions for living </p><p>24:55 Interplay between art and economy is fundamental to the way we develop society - how to see the world truthfully and then act ethically </p><p>25:25 Art defined as what’s done with care and consideration </p><p>26:05 <em>Economics the Blockbuster</em> exhibition</p><p>26:35 Reclaiming art as the operating system for our living conditions, as good housekeeping</p><p>27:50 Decentralizing Political Economies platform</p><p>28:30 NFT of William Blake’s <em>The Ancient of Days</em></p><p>30:40 Proceeds of Blake NFT to be used for social programmes</p><p>31:41 Story of NFT to be used in exhibition </p><p>33:15 U.S. Artist Suzanne Lacy’s current show at The Whitworth</p><p>34:05 SF MoMA’s version of a Suzanne Lacy retrospective</p><p>34:35 Lacy’s <em>What Kind of City? A Manual for Social Change</em></p><p>36:10 Lacy’s<em> Oakland Projects</em> to be used for a new project in Manchester to give youths agency</p><p>37:55 Lacy’s <em>Uncertain Futures</em> project to be used for better working rights for women over 50 years old </p><p>39:10 Capacity for change with individuals involved in and benefiting from these projects </p><p>42:30 These projects are elegant demonstrations of why art matters</p><p>42:50 Art world individuals who have a vested interest in the status quo are sometimes the ones who criticize these types of projects</p><p>43:20 Social justice at the center of these projects </p><p>43:50 The Whitworth and Manchester Galleries’ design as social instruments </p><p>44:10 The beauty of ethics and equitable relationships </p><p>45:00 Use of museums’ cultural power</p><p><br/></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <itunes:title>2ND Saturday Art + Justice Bonus: Artist Nnebundo Obi on Painting and Social Responsibility </itunes:title>
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    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Send us Fan Mail The featured image is titled The Ascension of Yemoja, 2017, Nnebundo Obi. Image: © and TM Nnebundo Obi. All rights reserved.    Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com  Music by Toulme.  To hear more episodes, please visit Warfare of Art and Law podcast's website.  To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, pleas...]]></itunes:summary>
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    <itunes:title>Glance at Culture - A Conversation with Art Historian and Author Dr. Laura Morelli on Historical Justice and Historical Fiction</itunes:title>
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    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Send us Fan Mail Please visit Laura Morelli's website to learn more.  Show Notes:   2:20 Travels in Europe began  interest in art history 3:00 academia to historical fiction 4:20 Dual timelines of The Night Portrait and The Stolen Lady 5:45 Characters in The Night Portrait set around da Vinci’s Lady With an Ermine in  Italian Renaissance and its theft in Nazi-Occupied Poland 7:30 The Stolen Lady set around creation of Mona Lisa and efforts to save it during WWII 8:40 Conspiraci...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>Please visit <a href='https://lauramorelli.com'>Laura Morelli&apos;s website</a> to learn more.<br/><br/>Show Notes: <br/><br/>2:20 Travels in Europe began  interest in art history</p><p>3:00 academia to historical fiction</p><p>4:20 Dual timelines of <em>The Night Portrait and</em> <em>The Stolen Lady</em></p><p>5:45 Characters in <em>The Night Portrait</em> set around da Vinci’s <em>Lady With an Ermine </em>in  Italian Renaissance and its theft in Nazi-Occupied Poland</p><p>7:30 <em>The Stolen Lady</em> set around creation of <em>Mona Lisa</em> and efforts to save it during WWII</p><p>8:40 Conspiracies around <em>Mona Lisa</em></p><p>9:40 16th and 17th Century copies of <em>Mona Lisa</em></p><p>10:35 Theft of <em>Mona Lisa</em> in 1911 by Italian contractor who thought it had been stolen from Italy</p><p>11:45 Da Vinci’s work in Court of France; how <em>Mona Lisa</em> came to be in French Royal Collection and then Louvre</p><p>13:00 Use of protagonist Bellina’s agency as servant</p><p>15:45 Bonfire of the Vanities after  Medici  expelled from Florence, Italy</p><p>17:40 <em>The Gondola Maker</em> - 16th Century Venice</p><p>18:45 Gondola burning as a Venetian act of justice to punish gondolier</p><p>20:20 Characters in <em>The Night Portrait</em></p><p>20:54 Cecilia Gallerani, subject of <em>Lady with an Ermine</em></p><p>22:35 German art conservator Edith conscripted into looting </p><p>23:30 Scale of art looting during World War II </p><p>24:30 Hans Frank who served as Nazi General Governor of Nazi-occupied Poland and was known as the Butcher of Poland</p><p>25:50 Value of art versus value of life during war</p><p>26:45 Review of <em>The Night Portrait</em> compared character of Edith with character of Hannah in <em>The Woman Who Heard Color</em> by Kelly Jones </p><p>27:45 Complications of character with Edith</p><p>28:40 Outlining </p><p>31:20 Advice for historical fiction authors</p><p>32:05 Empowerment of writers</p><p>32:35 Read with eye of craftsperson to see skeleton of book</p><p>33:10 Foreshadowing in first chapters that will come to fruition later</p><p>34:00 recommendations of Tracy Chevalier and Geraldine Brooks</p><p>34:18 Author recommendation of Ken Follett, including his book <em>The Pillars of the Earth</em> about construction of a cathedral in Medieval England</p><p>35:20 Author recommendations of Umberto Eco; Maggie O’Farrell, including  <em>Hamnet</em>; and Karen Maitland</p><p>35:50 LauraMorelli.com and Art History Academy under ‘Learn’ tab</p><p>37:40 Virtual visits to Italian museums and archeological sites</p><p>39:00 Using art as research resource </p><p>39:20 Books on daily life in era recommended as an aid for sensory details</p><p>40:25 Recommendations - craft of writing</p><p>42:35 Survivor bias </p><p>44:15 Da Vinci’s missing/destroyed hydraulic and engineering projects</p><p>45:25 Raphael’s missing <em>Portrait of a Youth</em></p><p>47:30 Facilitating historical justice through books like <em>The Night Portrait</em></p><p>48:50 Upcoming book on the evacuation of the Uffizi Gallery</p><p>50:20 Uffizi book inspired by ways art evacuated/managed in Italy than elsewhere during WWII </p><p>52:35 Historical justice theme in upcoming Uffizi book</p><p><br/></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>Please visit <a href='https://lauramorelli.com'>Laura Morelli&apos;s website</a> to learn more.<br/><br/>Show Notes: <br/><br/>2:20 Travels in Europe began  interest in art history</p><p>3:00 academia to historical fiction</p><p>4:20 Dual timelines of <em>The Night Portrait and</em> <em>The Stolen Lady</em></p><p>5:45 Characters in <em>The Night Portrait</em> set around da Vinci’s <em>Lady With an Ermine </em>in  Italian Renaissance and its theft in Nazi-Occupied Poland</p><p>7:30 <em>The Stolen Lady</em> set around creation of <em>Mona Lisa</em> and efforts to save it during WWII</p><p>8:40 Conspiracies around <em>Mona Lisa</em></p><p>9:40 16th and 17th Century copies of <em>Mona Lisa</em></p><p>10:35 Theft of <em>Mona Lisa</em> in 1911 by Italian contractor who thought it had been stolen from Italy</p><p>11:45 Da Vinci’s work in Court of France; how <em>Mona Lisa</em> came to be in French Royal Collection and then Louvre</p><p>13:00 Use of protagonist Bellina’s agency as servant</p><p>15:45 Bonfire of the Vanities after  Medici  expelled from Florence, Italy</p><p>17:40 <em>The Gondola Maker</em> - 16th Century Venice</p><p>18:45 Gondola burning as a Venetian act of justice to punish gondolier</p><p>20:20 Characters in <em>The Night Portrait</em></p><p>20:54 Cecilia Gallerani, subject of <em>Lady with an Ermine</em></p><p>22:35 German art conservator Edith conscripted into looting </p><p>23:30 Scale of art looting during World War II </p><p>24:30 Hans Frank who served as Nazi General Governor of Nazi-occupied Poland and was known as the Butcher of Poland</p><p>25:50 Value of art versus value of life during war</p><p>26:45 Review of <em>The Night Portrait</em> compared character of Edith with character of Hannah in <em>The Woman Who Heard Color</em> by Kelly Jones </p><p>27:45 Complications of character with Edith</p><p>28:40 Outlining </p><p>31:20 Advice for historical fiction authors</p><p>32:05 Empowerment of writers</p><p>32:35 Read with eye of craftsperson to see skeleton of book</p><p>33:10 Foreshadowing in first chapters that will come to fruition later</p><p>34:00 recommendations of Tracy Chevalier and Geraldine Brooks</p><p>34:18 Author recommendation of Ken Follett, including his book <em>The Pillars of the Earth</em> about construction of a cathedral in Medieval England</p><p>35:20 Author recommendations of Umberto Eco; Maggie O’Farrell, including  <em>Hamnet</em>; and Karen Maitland</p><p>35:50 LauraMorelli.com and Art History Academy under ‘Learn’ tab</p><p>37:40 Virtual visits to Italian museums and archeological sites</p><p>39:00 Using art as research resource </p><p>39:20 Books on daily life in era recommended as an aid for sensory details</p><p>40:25 Recommendations - craft of writing</p><p>42:35 Survivor bias </p><p>44:15 Da Vinci’s missing/destroyed hydraulic and engineering projects</p><p>45:25 Raphael’s missing <em>Portrait of a Youth</em></p><p>47:30 Facilitating historical justice through books like <em>The Night Portrait</em></p><p>48:50 Upcoming book on the evacuation of the Uffizi Gallery</p><p>50:20 Uffizi book inspired by ways art evacuated/managed in Italy than elsewhere during WWII </p><p>52:35 Historical justice theme in upcoming Uffizi book</p><p><br/></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Send us Fan Mail Cover Photo from Bayeté Ross Smith's Our Kind of People: Campaign.  Please visit Bayeté Ross Smith's website to learn more.  Show Notes:  1:15 Genesis of Art of Justice program 6:00 African American experience in America 9:00 Florida A&amp;M University’s business school  12:25 Shift from corporate business to photography  14:20 Our Kind of People project 16:40 Columbia’s Artist-in-Residency program 30:00 How  his audience has changed 34:30 U.S. government entit...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>Cover Photo from Bayeté Ross Smith&apos;s <em>Our Kind of People: Campaign</em>.<br/><br/>Please visit <a href='http://www.bayeterosssmith.com'>Bayeté Ross Smith&apos;s website </a>to learn more.<br/><br/>Show Notes:<br/><br/>1:15 Genesis of <em>Art of Justice</em> program</p><p>6:00 African American experience in America</p><p>9:00 Florida A&amp;M University’s business school </p><p>12:25 Shift from corporate business to photography </p><p>14:20 <em>Our Kind of People</em> project</p><p>16:40 Columbia’s Artist-in-Residency program</p><p>30:00 How  his audience has changed</p><p>34:30 U.S. government entities</p><p>36:40 State property exhibition related to state prisons</p><p>40:40 Continuing Legal Education </p><p>42:00 <a href='https://www.redsummersvr.com'><em style='background-color: highlight;'>Red Summers</em><span style='background-color: highlight;'> series</span></a></p><p>49:20 Historians who have worked with him</p><p>53:40 <a href='https://www.redsummersvr.com'><em>Red Summer</em> series as a corrective narrative that connects to current times and aids in producing future outcomes</a></p><p>55:25 Upcoming projects</p><p>56:20 Legacy of his work as a resource </p><p><br/></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>Cover Photo from Bayeté Ross Smith&apos;s <em>Our Kind of People: Campaign</em>.<br/><br/>Please visit <a href='http://www.bayeterosssmith.com'>Bayeté Ross Smith&apos;s website </a>to learn more.<br/><br/>Show Notes:<br/><br/>1:15 Genesis of <em>Art of Justice</em> program</p><p>6:00 African American experience in America</p><p>9:00 Florida A&amp;M University’s business school </p><p>12:25 Shift from corporate business to photography </p><p>14:20 <em>Our Kind of People</em> project</p><p>16:40 Columbia’s Artist-in-Residency program</p><p>30:00 How  his audience has changed</p><p>34:30 U.S. government entities</p><p>36:40 State property exhibition related to state prisons</p><p>40:40 Continuing Legal Education </p><p>42:00 <a href='https://www.redsummersvr.com'><em style='background-color: highlight;'>Red Summers</em><span style='background-color: highlight;'> series</span></a></p><p>49:20 Historians who have worked with him</p><p>53:40 <a href='https://www.redsummersvr.com'><em>Red Summer</em> series as a corrective narrative that connects to current times and aids in producing future outcomes</a></p><p>55:25 Upcoming projects</p><p>56:20 Legacy of his work as a resource </p><p><br/></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <title>2ND Saturday Art + Justice Bonus: Artist &amp; Retired Judge Jerry Alonzo on Sculpture and Social Justice </title>
    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Send us Fan Mail Image:  Arc, 2021, Jerry Alonzo  Please visit Jerry Alonzo's website to learn more.    Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com  Music by Toulme.  To hear more episodes, please visit Warfare of Art and Law podcast's website.  To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofa...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>Image: <em> Arc</em>, 2021, Jerry Alonzo<br/><br/>Please visit <a href='http://www.jerryalonzo.com'>Jerry Alonzo&apos;s website</a> to learn more.<br/><br/><br/></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>Image: <em> Arc</em>, 2021, Jerry Alonzo<br/><br/>Please visit <a href='http://www.jerryalonzo.com'>Jerry Alonzo&apos;s website</a> to learn more.<br/><br/><br/></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <itunes:title>Glance at Culture - The Neumann Exhibition at Worcester Art Museum: Claire Whitner on Art Restitution, Nazi Looting and Historical Justice</itunes:title>
    <title>Glance at Culture - The Neumann Exhibition at Worcester Art Museum: Claire Whitner on Art Restitution, Nazi Looting and Historical Justice</title>
    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Send us Fan Mail To learn more, please visit the Worcester Museum's webpage.  SHOW NOTES  2:45 Richard Neumann’s grandson Tom Selldorff  approached Worcester Museum to take  Neumann collection of 16 recovered works on long term loan 3:45 exhibition is meant to tell the story of the Neumann collection and efforts to reconstitute it  4:25 Richard Neumann was a collector’s collector  5:10 two exceptional works by Alessandro Magnasco 5:50 Madonna and Child by Neri di Bicc...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>To learn more, please visit the <a href='https://www.worcesterart.org/exhibitions/neumann/'>Worcester Museum&apos;s webpage</a>.<br/><br/>SHOW NOTES</p><p> 2:45 Richard Neumann’s grandson Tom Selldorff  approached Worcester Museum to take  Neumann collection of 16 recovered works on long term loan</p><p>3:45 exhibition is meant to tell the story of the Neumann collection and efforts to reconstitute it </p><p>4:25 Richard Neumann was a collector’s collector </p><p>5:10 two exceptional works by Alessandro Magnasco</p><p>5:50 <em>Madonna and Child</em> by Neri di Bicci</p><p>7:45 Maerten van Heemskerck <em>Donor</em> Panels</p><p>9:20<em> Donor</em> panels held in the Künsthistorisches Museum </p><p>12:00 Neumann’s inventory </p><p>12:50 Neumann’s lecturing on art in Cuba </p><p>13:10 collection includes some works Neumann purchased from the Habsburg Dynasty holdings</p><p>13:45 Neumann’s primary advisors included Albertina Museum curator Otto Benesch and Italian drawings specialist Lili Fröhlich-Bume</p><p>14:25 Vienna was a city of Old Master and new artists when Neumann is collecting all while royal collections are also becoming available </p><p>16:05 Sophie Lillie’s role in restitution of works to Neumann family </p><p>17:40 di Bicci panel  discovered in a Sotheby’s catalog by Lillie</p><p>18:00 materials incorporated into exhibition </p><p>18:30 verso of two paintings on pedestals </p><p>18:40 di Bicci’s verso </p><p>19:00 images in exhibition include French Ministry of Culture ceremony in 2013 for return of six works to Neumann family</p><p>19:30 Neumann family’s experience of looting speaks to larger narrative </p><p>20:00 Neumann family’s efforts to locate looted works</p><p>20:30 museum’s responsibility for looted works</p><p>20:50 Worcester Museum publishes all works with incomplete Nazi provenance online and is in the process of working with one family to determine if a work in the Worcester collection is the looted work that the family is seeking</p><p>21:40 exhibition design: recreation of works in the Neumann’s Vienna home and process of locating works post-war 1950s-2021</p><p>25:20 verso of works </p><p>26:50 forced sales / sales under duress</p><p>27:55 di Bicci’s <em>Madonna and Child</em> and Magnasco’s <em>Monks at Mealtime</em> appeared at auction </p><p>30:00 Sotheby’s Art Loss Register search for Magnasco’s <em>Monks at Mealtime </em></p><p>31:20 1938 inventory of Neumann assets</p><p>32:20 1938 inventory includes paintings but not sculpture or works on paper</p><p>33:20 Linz Museum and works shipped to Paris</p><p>34:00 missing from Neumann inventory - van Dyck and Rubens</p><p>35:00 late 17th C / early 18th C Barogue / Rococo paintings for Linz Museum </p><p>35:30 oil sketches</p><p>37:30 visitor reactions</p><p>40:15 exhibitions that informed Whitner in preparation of Neumann exhibition </p><p>44:45 Sophie Lillie’s book <em>Was Einmal War (What Once Was)</em></p><p>46:10 Stephanie Barron’s catalog of Degenerate art exhibition for LACM<em> </em></p><p>47:15 French government website with images of looted works </p><p>48:30 Richard Neumann’s legacy is one of generosity and tenacity</p><p>50:00  escape from Vichy France to Cuba</p><p><br/></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>To learn more, please visit the <a href='https://www.worcesterart.org/exhibitions/neumann/'>Worcester Museum&apos;s webpage</a>.<br/><br/>SHOW NOTES</p><p> 2:45 Richard Neumann’s grandson Tom Selldorff  approached Worcester Museum to take  Neumann collection of 16 recovered works on long term loan</p><p>3:45 exhibition is meant to tell the story of the Neumann collection and efforts to reconstitute it </p><p>4:25 Richard Neumann was a collector’s collector </p><p>5:10 two exceptional works by Alessandro Magnasco</p><p>5:50 <em>Madonna and Child</em> by Neri di Bicci</p><p>7:45 Maerten van Heemskerck <em>Donor</em> Panels</p><p>9:20<em> Donor</em> panels held in the Künsthistorisches Museum </p><p>12:00 Neumann’s inventory </p><p>12:50 Neumann’s lecturing on art in Cuba </p><p>13:10 collection includes some works Neumann purchased from the Habsburg Dynasty holdings</p><p>13:45 Neumann’s primary advisors included Albertina Museum curator Otto Benesch and Italian drawings specialist Lili Fröhlich-Bume</p><p>14:25 Vienna was a city of Old Master and new artists when Neumann is collecting all while royal collections are also becoming available </p><p>16:05 Sophie Lillie’s role in restitution of works to Neumann family </p><p>17:40 di Bicci panel  discovered in a Sotheby’s catalog by Lillie</p><p>18:00 materials incorporated into exhibition </p><p>18:30 verso of two paintings on pedestals </p><p>18:40 di Bicci’s verso </p><p>19:00 images in exhibition include French Ministry of Culture ceremony in 2013 for return of six works to Neumann family</p><p>19:30 Neumann family’s experience of looting speaks to larger narrative </p><p>20:00 Neumann family’s efforts to locate looted works</p><p>20:30 museum’s responsibility for looted works</p><p>20:50 Worcester Museum publishes all works with incomplete Nazi provenance online and is in the process of working with one family to determine if a work in the Worcester collection is the looted work that the family is seeking</p><p>21:40 exhibition design: recreation of works in the Neumann’s Vienna home and process of locating works post-war 1950s-2021</p><p>25:20 verso of works </p><p>26:50 forced sales / sales under duress</p><p>27:55 di Bicci’s <em>Madonna and Child</em> and Magnasco’s <em>Monks at Mealtime</em> appeared at auction </p><p>30:00 Sotheby’s Art Loss Register search for Magnasco’s <em>Monks at Mealtime </em></p><p>31:20 1938 inventory of Neumann assets</p><p>32:20 1938 inventory includes paintings but not sculpture or works on paper</p><p>33:20 Linz Museum and works shipped to Paris</p><p>34:00 missing from Neumann inventory - van Dyck and Rubens</p><p>35:00 late 17th C / early 18th C Barogue / Rococo paintings for Linz Museum </p><p>35:30 oil sketches</p><p>37:30 visitor reactions</p><p>40:15 exhibitions that informed Whitner in preparation of Neumann exhibition </p><p>44:45 Sophie Lillie’s book <em>Was Einmal War (What Once Was)</em></p><p>46:10 Stephanie Barron’s catalog of Degenerate art exhibition for LACM<em> </em></p><p>47:15 French government website with images of looted works </p><p>48:30 Richard Neumann’s legacy is one of generosity and tenacity</p><p>50:00  escape from Vichy France to Cuba</p><p><br/></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Send us Fan Mail To learn more, please visit ARCA's website. SHOW NOTES: 03:00 Dr. Charney’s interest in being a playwright led to foundation of Association for Research into Crimes against Art (ARCA) 05:00 Charney’s first book  05:30 first conference to bring academics and art police together 06:30 criminalistics applied in Slovenia - a balanced policing system that merges the theories of criminology and practice of criminal investigation, forensics &amp; police procedure 11:00 ARCA’s s...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>To learn more, please visit <a href='https://www.artcrimeresearch.org'>ARCA&apos;s website</a>.</p><p>SHOW NOTES:</p><p>03:00 Dr. Charney’s interest in being a playwright led to foundation of Association for Research into Crimes against Art (ARCA)</p><p>05:00 Charney’s first book </p><p>05:30 first conference to bring academics and art police together</p><p>06:30 criminalistics applied in Slovenia - a balanced policing system that merges the theories of criminology and practice of criminal investigation, forensics &amp; police procedure</p><p>11:00 ARCA’s summer conference on art crime in central Italy</p><p>14:00 Italy’s Carabinieri Art Squad</p><p>17:50 ARCA’s CEO Linda Albertson</p><p>18:30 Albertson’s blog post about return of objects to Cambodia by Doug Latchford’s Estate</p><p>19:00 ARCA’s blog</p><p>21:30 recommendations on return of looted art or cultural heritage objects</p><p>24:00 <em>Missing Masterpieces</em> exhibition </p><p>25:35 thief of Van Gogh’s <em>Parsonage</em> arrested though painting is still missing</p><p>25:50 tip on whereabouts of Jean-Baptiste Oudry’s <em>The</em> <em>White Duck</em></p><p>26:20 panel of Ghent Altarpiece stolen in 1934 is still missing and is an ongoing open case in Ghent, Belgium</p><p>27:45 a work is ‘extant’ if its location is known</p><p>28:25 <em>Justice Cycle</em> panels by Rogier van der Weyden referenced in Charney’s <em>Museum of Lost Art </em></p><p>29:00 <em>The Deposition</em> in the Prado considered van der Weyden’s masterpiece</p><p>29:10 van der Weyden considered <em>The Justice of Trajan and Herkinbald </em>from the <em>Justice</em> cycle to be his masterpiece</p><p>29:45 the <em>Justice</em> cycle destroyed in a fire circa early 17th C.</p><p>29:55 survivor bias - 2018 book <em>The Museum of Lost Art</em></p><p>31:10 <em>The Devil in the Gallery: How Scandal, Shock, and Rivalry Made the Art World</em>? also has a negative space approach</p><p>31:55  2017 book <em>The Collector of Lives</em> focuses on the life of Giorgio Vasari </p><p>33:00 rivalry of artists in Caravaggio’s 1599 <em>The Calling of St. Matthew </em>- used duplicate of Sistine Chapel’s hand of God by Michelangelo to paint hand of Jesus </p><p>34:15 Charney’s online discussion of Caravaggio’s 1599 <em>The Calling of St. Matthew </em></p><p>34:50 <em>Book of Drawings,</em> twelve folios by Giorgio Vasari</p><p>36:05 Vinci’s <em>Battle of Angiati</em>; Vasari’s use of false walls to preserve works he valued like da Vinci’s <em>Battle of Angiati</em></p><p>37:15 third work would be the <em>Justice</em> Cycle</p><p>37:30 Charney’s preference for work in situ</p><p>39:00 Vasari’s use of false walls to cover paintings </p><p>39:50 Vasari’s false wall in front of da Vinci’s <em>Battle </em></p><p>40:50 Charney’s recommendations of books published by ARCA</p><p>41:10 <em>Context Matters: Collating the Past</em> by David W.J. Gill - essays on antiquities, looting and archaeology</p><p>41:20 <em>Transnational Art Crime</em> by ARCA academic director Edgar Telehouse</p><p>41:45<em> The Secret Collector: the Lost Art Collection of Erich Šlomovič </em>by Leon Pogelick and Slavko Pregl</p><p>42:45 Charney’s <em>The Art Thief’s Handbook</em> </p><p><br/></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>To learn more, please visit <a href='https://www.artcrimeresearch.org'>ARCA&apos;s website</a>.</p><p>SHOW NOTES:</p><p>03:00 Dr. Charney’s interest in being a playwright led to foundation of Association for Research into Crimes against Art (ARCA)</p><p>05:00 Charney’s first book </p><p>05:30 first conference to bring academics and art police together</p><p>06:30 criminalistics applied in Slovenia - a balanced policing system that merges the theories of criminology and practice of criminal investigation, forensics &amp; police procedure</p><p>11:00 ARCA’s summer conference on art crime in central Italy</p><p>14:00 Italy’s Carabinieri Art Squad</p><p>17:50 ARCA’s CEO Linda Albertson</p><p>18:30 Albertson’s blog post about return of objects to Cambodia by Doug Latchford’s Estate</p><p>19:00 ARCA’s blog</p><p>21:30 recommendations on return of looted art or cultural heritage objects</p><p>24:00 <em>Missing Masterpieces</em> exhibition </p><p>25:35 thief of Van Gogh’s <em>Parsonage</em> arrested though painting is still missing</p><p>25:50 tip on whereabouts of Jean-Baptiste Oudry’s <em>The</em> <em>White Duck</em></p><p>26:20 panel of Ghent Altarpiece stolen in 1934 is still missing and is an ongoing open case in Ghent, Belgium</p><p>27:45 a work is ‘extant’ if its location is known</p><p>28:25 <em>Justice Cycle</em> panels by Rogier van der Weyden referenced in Charney’s <em>Museum of Lost Art </em></p><p>29:00 <em>The Deposition</em> in the Prado considered van der Weyden’s masterpiece</p><p>29:10 van der Weyden considered <em>The Justice of Trajan and Herkinbald </em>from the <em>Justice</em> cycle to be his masterpiece</p><p>29:45 the <em>Justice</em> cycle destroyed in a fire circa early 17th C.</p><p>29:55 survivor bias - 2018 book <em>The Museum of Lost Art</em></p><p>31:10 <em>The Devil in the Gallery: How Scandal, Shock, and Rivalry Made the Art World</em>? also has a negative space approach</p><p>31:55  2017 book <em>The Collector of Lives</em> focuses on the life of Giorgio Vasari </p><p>33:00 rivalry of artists in Caravaggio’s 1599 <em>The Calling of St. Matthew </em>- used duplicate of Sistine Chapel’s hand of God by Michelangelo to paint hand of Jesus </p><p>34:15 Charney’s online discussion of Caravaggio’s 1599 <em>The Calling of St. Matthew </em></p><p>34:50 <em>Book of Drawings,</em> twelve folios by Giorgio Vasari</p><p>36:05 Vinci’s <em>Battle of Angiati</em>; Vasari’s use of false walls to preserve works he valued like da Vinci’s <em>Battle of Angiati</em></p><p>37:15 third work would be the <em>Justice</em> Cycle</p><p>37:30 Charney’s preference for work in situ</p><p>39:00 Vasari’s use of false walls to cover paintings </p><p>39:50 Vasari’s false wall in front of da Vinci’s <em>Battle </em></p><p>40:50 Charney’s recommendations of books published by ARCA</p><p>41:10 <em>Context Matters: Collating the Past</em> by David W.J. Gill - essays on antiquities, looting and archaeology</p><p>41:20 <em>Transnational Art Crime</em> by ARCA academic director Edgar Telehouse</p><p>41:45<em> The Secret Collector: the Lost Art Collection of Erich Šlomovič </em>by Leon Pogelick and Slavko Pregl</p><p>42:45 Charney’s <em>The Art Thief’s Handbook</em> </p><p><br/></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <itunes:title>Glance at Culture - Curators Darsie Alexander &amp; Sam Sackeroff Discuss the Jewish Museum&#39;s Afterlives Exhibition, Historical Justice, Art Restitution and the International Culture of Memory</itunes:title>
    <title>Glance at Culture - Curators Darsie Alexander &amp; Sam Sackeroff Discuss the Jewish Museum&#39;s Afterlives Exhibition, Historical Justice, Art Restitution and the International Culture of Memory</title>
    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Send us Fan Mail Cover Art from the Afterlives Exhibition by Kurt Schwitters, Opened by Customs, 1937 or 1938, Paper, printed paper, oil, and graphite collaged on paper Tate, London, purchased 1958  For more information about the Afterlives exhibition, please visit the Jewish Museum's website.  Show Notes: 00:02:00 inspiration for Afterlives: Recovering the Lost Stories of Looted Art 00:06:30 design of Afterlives  00:10:15 windows metaphor of seeing through to the history of works and ev...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>Cover Art from the <em>Afterlives</em> Exhibition by Kurt Schwitters, <em>Opened by Customs</em>, 1937 or 1938, Paper, printed paper, oil, and graphite collaged on paper Tate, London, purchased 1958<br/><br/>For more information about the <em>Afterlives</em> exhibition, please visit the <a href='https://thejewishmuseum.org/exhibitions/afterlives-recovering-the-lost-stories-of-looted-art'>Jewish Museum&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>Show Notes:<br/>00:02:00 inspiration for <em>Afterlives: Recovering the Lost Stories of Looted Art</em></p><p>00:06:30 design of <em>Afterlives</em> </p><p>00:10:15 windows metaphor of seeing through to the history of works and events</p><p>00:11:20  August Sander’s portrait photos of persecuted Jews</p><p>00:13:00 Jeu de Paume’s “Room of the Martyrs”</p><p>00:13:40 1942  photograph of Room of the Martyrs includes images of work by  Matisse,  Picasso,  Léger, and  Derain who were defamed as degenerate </p><p>00:14:15 exhibition reunites large nude by Cezanne, small surrealist Picasso and post-cubist painting Composition by Fédor Löwenstein</p><p>00:14:52 Cezanne and Picasso looted from Alphonse Kann</p><p>00:15:00 <em>Composition</em> seizure</p><p>00:16:20 restution of <em>Composition</em>  in  process</p><p>00:17:45 works celebrate history of their creation and document their looting</p><p>00:18:00 artwork as documentation </p><p>00:19:30 Rose Valland</p><p>00:20:20 Dachau records in ‘Creativity Under Duress’ gallery</p><p>00:20:50 work  by artists in exile</p><p>00:21:05 work  by artists  in camps and/or in hiding</p><p>00:22:00 Nuremberg trial  excerpt </p><p>00:25:30 Judaica Room includes pieces from Jewish Museum’s collection affiliated with Jewish Cultural Reconstruction (JCR) and community of Danzig and  installation by Maria Eichhorn</p><p>00:28:15 Jewish Museum as temporary storage depot for the JCR 1949-1952</p><p>00:32:00 JCR aluminum tags on objects</p><p>00:32:20 Hannah Arendt’s work at the core of  Eichhorn’s commission</p><p>00:34:40 Eichhorn’s commission </p><p>00:37:50 Arendt’s documents </p><p>00:39:30  commissions by Lisa Oppenheim, Hadar Gad, Dor Guez and  Eichhorn</p><p>00:41:30 international perspective from these artists </p><p>00:42:15  Oppenheim’s piece deals with work by Jean-Baptiste </p><p>00:46:00 historical justice</p><p>00:49:00 international culture of memory</p><p>00:50:00 symposium</p><p>00:52:00 Pechstein&apos;s 1912  <em>Paysage</em> and Löwenstein’s 1939 <em>Composition</em></p><p>00:54:45 <em>We Fight to Build a Free World: An Exhibition by Jonathan Horowitz</em>; and upcoming exhibition related to Ephrussi family story </p><p>00:57:45 1940 charcoal portrait by Jacob Barosin while in French forced labor camp of fellow prisoner</p><p>01:00:15 Picasso’s 1929 <em>Group of Characters</em></p><p>01:02:50  Pissarro’s 1872  <em>Portrait of Minette</em></p><p>01:06:00  <em>Portrait of Minette</em>, <em>Group of Characters and </em>Cézanne’s <em>Bather and Rocks</em> </p><p>01:06:50 Kurt Schwitters’ <em>Opened by Customs</em> from 1937/38</p><p>01:09:35 <em>Afterlives</em>  catalog </p><p>01:10:30 reactions of visitors</p><p><br/></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>Cover Art from the <em>Afterlives</em> Exhibition by Kurt Schwitters, <em>Opened by Customs</em>, 1937 or 1938, Paper, printed paper, oil, and graphite collaged on paper Tate, London, purchased 1958<br/><br/>For more information about the <em>Afterlives</em> exhibition, please visit the <a href='https://thejewishmuseum.org/exhibitions/afterlives-recovering-the-lost-stories-of-looted-art'>Jewish Museum&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>Show Notes:<br/>00:02:00 inspiration for <em>Afterlives: Recovering the Lost Stories of Looted Art</em></p><p>00:06:30 design of <em>Afterlives</em> </p><p>00:10:15 windows metaphor of seeing through to the history of works and events</p><p>00:11:20  August Sander’s portrait photos of persecuted Jews</p><p>00:13:00 Jeu de Paume’s “Room of the Martyrs”</p><p>00:13:40 1942  photograph of Room of the Martyrs includes images of work by  Matisse,  Picasso,  Léger, and  Derain who were defamed as degenerate </p><p>00:14:15 exhibition reunites large nude by Cezanne, small surrealist Picasso and post-cubist painting Composition by Fédor Löwenstein</p><p>00:14:52 Cezanne and Picasso looted from Alphonse Kann</p><p>00:15:00 <em>Composition</em> seizure</p><p>00:16:20 restution of <em>Composition</em>  in  process</p><p>00:17:45 works celebrate history of their creation and document their looting</p><p>00:18:00 artwork as documentation </p><p>00:19:30 Rose Valland</p><p>00:20:20 Dachau records in ‘Creativity Under Duress’ gallery</p><p>00:20:50 work  by artists in exile</p><p>00:21:05 work  by artists  in camps and/or in hiding</p><p>00:22:00 Nuremberg trial  excerpt </p><p>00:25:30 Judaica Room includes pieces from Jewish Museum’s collection affiliated with Jewish Cultural Reconstruction (JCR) and community of Danzig and  installation by Maria Eichhorn</p><p>00:28:15 Jewish Museum as temporary storage depot for the JCR 1949-1952</p><p>00:32:00 JCR aluminum tags on objects</p><p>00:32:20 Hannah Arendt’s work at the core of  Eichhorn’s commission</p><p>00:34:40 Eichhorn’s commission </p><p>00:37:50 Arendt’s documents </p><p>00:39:30  commissions by Lisa Oppenheim, Hadar Gad, Dor Guez and  Eichhorn</p><p>00:41:30 international perspective from these artists </p><p>00:42:15  Oppenheim’s piece deals with work by Jean-Baptiste </p><p>00:46:00 historical justice</p><p>00:49:00 international culture of memory</p><p>00:50:00 symposium</p><p>00:52:00 Pechstein&apos;s 1912  <em>Paysage</em> and Löwenstein’s 1939 <em>Composition</em></p><p>00:54:45 <em>We Fight to Build a Free World: An Exhibition by Jonathan Horowitz</em>; and upcoming exhibition related to Ephrussi family story </p><p>00:57:45 1940 charcoal portrait by Jacob Barosin while in French forced labor camp of fellow prisoner</p><p>01:00:15 Picasso’s 1929 <em>Group of Characters</em></p><p>01:02:50  Pissarro’s 1872  <em>Portrait of Minette</em></p><p>01:06:00  <em>Portrait of Minette</em>, <em>Group of Characters and </em>Cézanne’s <em>Bather and Rocks</em> </p><p>01:06:50 Kurt Schwitters’ <em>Opened by Customs</em> from 1937/38</p><p>01:09:35 <em>Afterlives</em>  catalog </p><p>01:10:30 reactions of visitors</p><p><br/></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Send us Fan Mail Photography of Alana Kushnir by Justin Ridler. For more information about Guest Work Agency, please visit GWA's website. To learn more about the Legal Lab Report, please visit Serpentine Legal Lab's website.  Show Notes: 2:30 Alana’s inspiration to merge curatorial and legal work into a single agency 5:50 Goldsmiths, University of London 9:30 curator and attorney Daniel McClean played a role in her creation of GWA 10:15 Daniel McClean’s books Dear Images: Art, Copyright and C...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>Photography of Alana Kushnir by Justin Ridler.</p><p>For more information about Guest Work Agency, please visit <a href='https://guestworkagency.art/'>GWA&apos;s website</a>.<br/>To learn more about the Legal Lab Report, please visit <a href='https://www.serpentinegalleries.org/whats-on/legal-lab/'>Serpentine Legal Lab&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>Show Notes:</p><p>2:30 Alana’s inspiration to merge curatorial and legal work into a single agency</p><p>5:50 Goldsmiths, University of London</p><p>9:30 curator and attorney Daniel McClean played a role in her creation of GWA</p><p>10:15 Daniel McClean’s books <em>Dear Images: Art, Copyright and Culture </em>and <em>The Trials of Art</em></p><p>12:00 2017 exhibition <em>Travelers: Stepping Into the Unknown</em> at Osaka’s National Museum of Art</p><p>16:00 <em>The Legal Bookshop</em></p><p>17:30 Traveler’s exhibition rose from exploration of how law is impacting contemporary art</p><p>19:00 book project <em>Cooking Sections </em>by Daniel Fernández Pascual and Alon Schwabe that celebrated their public installation in London titled <em>The Empire Remains Book Store</em>.</p><p>21:00 <em>Cooking Sections&apos;</em> franchising heads of agreement </p><p>22:20 collaborations</p><p>24:00 Serpentine Legal Lab’s project</p><p>28:00 Victoria Ivanova developed Serpentine’s R&amp;D platform circa 2018-2019</p><p>28:45 Serpentine’s arts technologies department</p><p>29:45 Serpentine’s legal lab, block chain lab, creative AI lab and science lab</p><p>31:00 Serpentine’s chief tech officer Ben Vickers</p><p>32:20 Serpentine’s 2019 summit </p><p>35:45 Marie Potel-Saville, Founder &amp; CEO of Amurabi: Legal Innovation by Design</p><p>37:15 Three-prong research process for quantitative and qualitative research</p><p>42:00 Legal design defined as an approach to legal thinking and legal practice to promote access to justice</p><p>42:30 pioneer of legal design Margaret Hagen at Stanford Law School’s Legal Design Lab </p><p>44:00 Legal design’s user-oriented research and user’s pain points</p><p>48:00 Cross-disciplinary advisory panel to address action points raised in Legal Lab Report 1</p><p>50:45 Serpentine’s affiliation with University College London<br/><br/>52:20 Serpentine’s future creation of a Model Code</p><p>54:20 Those interested in contributing can reach out via legallab@serpentinegalleries.org</p><p>54:50 Kushnir’s article <em>The Legal Ambiguities of Art Collaborations and their Compatibility with NFTs</em></p><p>57:30 research of NFT platform’s website terms of use with GWA paralegal Mia Schaumann </p><p>59:20 The Mars House controversy</p><p>1:04:30 Advice to those pursuing art law</p><p>1:06:05 Guest Club</p><p>1:09:00 Transparency in collecting</p><p>1:12:20 Turkish Artist Rafik Anadol’s <em>Quantum Memories</em> series </p><p><br/></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>Photography of Alana Kushnir by Justin Ridler.</p><p>For more information about Guest Work Agency, please visit <a href='https://guestworkagency.art/'>GWA&apos;s website</a>.<br/>To learn more about the Legal Lab Report, please visit <a href='https://www.serpentinegalleries.org/whats-on/legal-lab/'>Serpentine Legal Lab&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>Show Notes:</p><p>2:30 Alana’s inspiration to merge curatorial and legal work into a single agency</p><p>5:50 Goldsmiths, University of London</p><p>9:30 curator and attorney Daniel McClean played a role in her creation of GWA</p><p>10:15 Daniel McClean’s books <em>Dear Images: Art, Copyright and Culture </em>and <em>The Trials of Art</em></p><p>12:00 2017 exhibition <em>Travelers: Stepping Into the Unknown</em> at Osaka’s National Museum of Art</p><p>16:00 <em>The Legal Bookshop</em></p><p>17:30 Traveler’s exhibition rose from exploration of how law is impacting contemporary art</p><p>19:00 book project <em>Cooking Sections </em>by Daniel Fernández Pascual and Alon Schwabe that celebrated their public installation in London titled <em>The Empire Remains Book Store</em>.</p><p>21:00 <em>Cooking Sections&apos;</em> franchising heads of agreement </p><p>22:20 collaborations</p><p>24:00 Serpentine Legal Lab’s project</p><p>28:00 Victoria Ivanova developed Serpentine’s R&amp;D platform circa 2018-2019</p><p>28:45 Serpentine’s arts technologies department</p><p>29:45 Serpentine’s legal lab, block chain lab, creative AI lab and science lab</p><p>31:00 Serpentine’s chief tech officer Ben Vickers</p><p>32:20 Serpentine’s 2019 summit </p><p>35:45 Marie Potel-Saville, Founder &amp; CEO of Amurabi: Legal Innovation by Design</p><p>37:15 Three-prong research process for quantitative and qualitative research</p><p>42:00 Legal design defined as an approach to legal thinking and legal practice to promote access to justice</p><p>42:30 pioneer of legal design Margaret Hagen at Stanford Law School’s Legal Design Lab </p><p>44:00 Legal design’s user-oriented research and user’s pain points</p><p>48:00 Cross-disciplinary advisory panel to address action points raised in Legal Lab Report 1</p><p>50:45 Serpentine’s affiliation with University College London<br/><br/>52:20 Serpentine’s future creation of a Model Code</p><p>54:20 Those interested in contributing can reach out via legallab@serpentinegalleries.org</p><p>54:50 Kushnir’s article <em>The Legal Ambiguities of Art Collaborations and their Compatibility with NFTs</em></p><p>57:30 research of NFT platform’s website terms of use with GWA paralegal Mia Schaumann </p><p>59:20 The Mars House controversy</p><p>1:04:30 Advice to those pursuing art law</p><p>1:06:05 Guest Club</p><p>1:09:00 Transparency in collecting</p><p>1:12:20 Turkish Artist Rafik Anadol’s <em>Quantum Memories</em> series </p><p><br/></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Send us Fan Mail For more information about the Paintings, Politics and the Monuments Men exhibition, please visit the Cincinnati Art Museum's website.  Show Notes:  04:00 Inspiration for Paintings, Politics and the Monuments Men: The Berlin Masterpieces in America 05:15 How issues surrounding post-WWII exhibition of Berlin 202 are addressed 07:50 Prizes of war or protection mission for German patrimony per Truman Administration 11:30 Reasoning for Weisbaden Manifesto 12:00 “Art &amp; Injusti...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>For more information about the <em>Paintings, Politics and the Monuments Men</em> exhibition, please visit the <a href='https://www.cincinnatiartmuseum.org/art/exhibitions/paintings-politics-and-the-monuments-men/'>Cincinnati Art Museum&apos;s website.</a><br/><br/>Show Notes:<br/><br/>04:00 Inspiration for <em>Paintings, Politics and the Monuments Men: The Berlin Masterpieces in America</em></p><p>05:15 How issues surrounding post-WWII exhibition of Berlin 202 are addressed</p><p>07:50 Prizes of war or protection mission for German patrimony per Truman Administration</p><p>11:30 Reasoning for Weisbaden Manifesto</p><p>12:00 “Art &amp; Injustice”</p><p>15:30 Design process of the exhibition </p><p>18:00 Legacy of Weisbaden Collecting Point Director Captain Walter Farmer</p><p>18:30 Red background inspired by Army tour’s exhibition catalog</p><p>19:30 Oskar Kokoshka painting in 1937 Degenerate Art Exhibition and sent to Lucerne auction</p><p>20:30 Botticelli’s Ideal Portrait of a Woman</p><p>21:45 Self-Portrait by Moravian painter Martin Quadal</p><p>22:15 Madonna and Child from Jacques Goudstikker’s collection</p><p>24:20 Reactions of visitors</p><p>26:15 Message of the exhibition </p><p>28:50 why does it matter who takes care of artwork, where they travel and how they are used?</p><p>29:30 archival material in exhibition </p><p>31:10 The Berlin Masterpieces catalog</p><p>33:00 the fundamental importance of provenance research </p><p>35:25 Advice to those interested in a career as a provenance researcher and/or curator</p><p>37:20 ‘web of connections’ in art history</p><p>37:45 Book recommendation: <em>Rape of Europa</em></p><p>39:15 Worcester Museum’s current exhibition as a case study on Nazi looted art</p><p>40:00 Symposium will include keynote speaker Dr. Richard Kurin, Under Secretary for History, Art, and Culture and Ambassador at large for the Smithsonian Institution</p><p><br/></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>For more information about the <em>Paintings, Politics and the Monuments Men</em> exhibition, please visit the <a href='https://www.cincinnatiartmuseum.org/art/exhibitions/paintings-politics-and-the-monuments-men/'>Cincinnati Art Museum&apos;s website.</a><br/><br/>Show Notes:<br/><br/>04:00 Inspiration for <em>Paintings, Politics and the Monuments Men: The Berlin Masterpieces in America</em></p><p>05:15 How issues surrounding post-WWII exhibition of Berlin 202 are addressed</p><p>07:50 Prizes of war or protection mission for German patrimony per Truman Administration</p><p>11:30 Reasoning for Weisbaden Manifesto</p><p>12:00 “Art &amp; Injustice”</p><p>15:30 Design process of the exhibition </p><p>18:00 Legacy of Weisbaden Collecting Point Director Captain Walter Farmer</p><p>18:30 Red background inspired by Army tour’s exhibition catalog</p><p>19:30 Oskar Kokoshka painting in 1937 Degenerate Art Exhibition and sent to Lucerne auction</p><p>20:30 Botticelli’s Ideal Portrait of a Woman</p><p>21:45 Self-Portrait by Moravian painter Martin Quadal</p><p>22:15 Madonna and Child from Jacques Goudstikker’s collection</p><p>24:20 Reactions of visitors</p><p>26:15 Message of the exhibition </p><p>28:50 why does it matter who takes care of artwork, where they travel and how they are used?</p><p>29:30 archival material in exhibition </p><p>31:10 The Berlin Masterpieces catalog</p><p>33:00 the fundamental importance of provenance research </p><p>35:25 Advice to those interested in a career as a provenance researcher and/or curator</p><p>37:20 ‘web of connections’ in art history</p><p>37:45 Book recommendation: <em>Rape of Europa</em></p><p>39:15 Worcester Museum’s current exhibition as a case study on Nazi looted art</p><p>40:00 Symposium will include keynote speaker Dr. Richard Kurin, Under Secretary for History, Art, and Culture and Ambassador at large for the Smithsonian Institution</p><p><br/></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Send us Fan Mail To learn more, please visit MARI's website.  Show Notes 4:00 German culture of memory 5:00 MARI-first collaboration between German public institutions and Holocaust victims 7:00 Historical question addressed about Rudolph Mosse as art lover 8:50 location of objects related to politicians and individuals in culture scene of Mosse’s day  11:00 Hanns Fechner’s portrait of German writer Theodor Fontane held by daughter of Nazi finance Minister Hjalmar Schacht 16:00 Venus Cha...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>To learn more, please visit <a href='https://www.mari-portal.de'>MARI&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>Show Notes</p><p>4:00 German culture of memory</p><p>5:00 MARI-first collaboration between German public institutions and Holocaust victims</p><p>7:00 Historical question addressed about Rudolph Mosse as art lover</p><p>8:50 location of objects related to politicians and individuals in culture scene of Mosse’s day </p><p>11:00 Hanns Fechner’s portrait of German writer Theodor Fontane held by daughter of Nazi finance Minister Hjalmar Schacht</p><p>16:00 Venus Chasing Cupid-sculpture localized during first phase of MARI</p><p>17:00 sculpture not included in Nazi arranged auction of Mosse collection</p><p>19:00 MARI contact with those believed to hold works from Mosse Collection</p><p>20:30 Tel Aviv Museum – tapastries and Jozef Israels’ From Darkness to Light</p><p>25:00 Historical justice achieved by making history visible  </p><p>26:00 MARI’s impact-to prompt scrutiny of provenance of collections</p><p>27:30 size of Mosse’s collection</p><p>28:30 MARI’s first phase began in early 2017</p><p>31:00 MARI’s staff assignment</p><p>34:00 Hoffmann’s work on Gurlitt project as researcher and task force member</p><p>35:00 portal database for MARI – starts with resources not objects</p><p>40:00 Hoffmann began first academic training program for provenance research in 2011</p><p>41:30 Adolph Menzel painting – no trace since 1934 auction</p><p>43:15 expertize outside of MARI for Eyptian antiquities and Benin Bronzes</p><p>46:30 Gurlitt work</p><p>50:00 Frie University’s degenerate art program</p><p>52:30 Hoffman’s work as Brücke Museum curator</p><p>54:40 International Circle of Provenance Research member</p><p>59:50 exhibitions that show provenance research</p><p>1:02:00 Artist Maria Eichhorn </p><p>1:03:00 Hoffmann curated 2019 exhibition Escape Into Art? </p><p>1:06:00 future of degenerate artists <br/><br/><br/></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>To learn more, please visit <a href='https://www.mari-portal.de'>MARI&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>Show Notes</p><p>4:00 German culture of memory</p><p>5:00 MARI-first collaboration between German public institutions and Holocaust victims</p><p>7:00 Historical question addressed about Rudolph Mosse as art lover</p><p>8:50 location of objects related to politicians and individuals in culture scene of Mosse’s day </p><p>11:00 Hanns Fechner’s portrait of German writer Theodor Fontane held by daughter of Nazi finance Minister Hjalmar Schacht</p><p>16:00 Venus Chasing Cupid-sculpture localized during first phase of MARI</p><p>17:00 sculpture not included in Nazi arranged auction of Mosse collection</p><p>19:00 MARI contact with those believed to hold works from Mosse Collection</p><p>20:30 Tel Aviv Museum – tapastries and Jozef Israels’ From Darkness to Light</p><p>25:00 Historical justice achieved by making history visible  </p><p>26:00 MARI’s impact-to prompt scrutiny of provenance of collections</p><p>27:30 size of Mosse’s collection</p><p>28:30 MARI’s first phase began in early 2017</p><p>31:00 MARI’s staff assignment</p><p>34:00 Hoffmann’s work on Gurlitt project as researcher and task force member</p><p>35:00 portal database for MARI – starts with resources not objects</p><p>40:00 Hoffmann began first academic training program for provenance research in 2011</p><p>41:30 Adolph Menzel painting – no trace since 1934 auction</p><p>43:15 expertize outside of MARI for Eyptian antiquities and Benin Bronzes</p><p>46:30 Gurlitt work</p><p>50:00 Frie University’s degenerate art program</p><p>52:30 Hoffman’s work as Brücke Museum curator</p><p>54:40 International Circle of Provenance Research member</p><p>59:50 exhibitions that show provenance research</p><p>1:02:00 Artist Maria Eichhorn </p><p>1:03:00 Hoffmann curated 2019 exhibition Escape Into Art? </p><p>1:06:00 future of degenerate artists <br/><br/><br/></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <itunes:title>Glance at Culture - The Last Cyclist: Naomi Patz on the Holocaust, Terezín Concentration Camp and Karel Švenk</itunes:title>
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    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Send us Fan Mail To learn more, please visit The Last Cyclist's website. SHOW NOTES: 3:30 background in Holocaust studies 6:00 Jana Šedová’s essay referenced The Last Cyclist 9:00 Terezin March used in 1995 version of The Last Cyclist created by Patz 12:00 Svenk died in death march 14:00 title of The Last Cyclist rooted in bitter joke 16:30 Jana Šedová 21:00 The Last Cyclist underscored prisoners’ resilience and spiritual resistance  24:00 Holocaust was a shaky topic under Communists&nbs...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>To learn more, please visit <a href='http://www.thelastcyclist.com'>The Last Cyclist&apos;s website</a>.</p><p>SHOW NOTES:</p><p>3:30 background in Holocaust studies</p><p>6:00 Jana Šedová’s essay referenced The Last Cyclist</p><p>9:00 Terezin March used in 1995 version of The Last Cyclist created by Patz</p><p>12:00 Svenk died in death march</p><p>14:00 title of The Last Cyclist rooted in bitter joke</p><p>16:30 Jana Šedová</p><p>21:00 The Last Cyclist underscored prisoners’ resilience and spiritual resistance </p><p>24:00 Holocaust was a shaky topic under Communists </p><p>27:30 The Lost Food Card</p><p>30:00 Verdi’s Requiem Mass brought to Terezin by Rafael Schächter</p><p>35:00 Emperor of Atlantis</p><p>36:45 Brundibar</p><p>39:00 Lullaby from The Last Cyclist survived but not in current version</p><p>40:45 4-part documentary is in process</p><p>42:45 The Last Cyclist is also a film </p><p>45:30 Director Edward Einhorn</p><p>46:25 Terezin Music Foundation</p><p>47:30 Composer Stephen Feigenbaum</p><p>48:00 Artwork by Mark Podwal</p><p>48:45 The Last Cyclist’s ongoing relevance to address bigotry and bullying</p><p>49:40 justice facilitated by The Last Cyclist</p><p><br/></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>To learn more, please visit <a href='http://www.thelastcyclist.com'>The Last Cyclist&apos;s website</a>.</p><p>SHOW NOTES:</p><p>3:30 background in Holocaust studies</p><p>6:00 Jana Šedová’s essay referenced The Last Cyclist</p><p>9:00 Terezin March used in 1995 version of The Last Cyclist created by Patz</p><p>12:00 Svenk died in death march</p><p>14:00 title of The Last Cyclist rooted in bitter joke</p><p>16:30 Jana Šedová</p><p>21:00 The Last Cyclist underscored prisoners’ resilience and spiritual resistance </p><p>24:00 Holocaust was a shaky topic under Communists </p><p>27:30 The Lost Food Card</p><p>30:00 Verdi’s Requiem Mass brought to Terezin by Rafael Schächter</p><p>35:00 Emperor of Atlantis</p><p>36:45 Brundibar</p><p>39:00 Lullaby from The Last Cyclist survived but not in current version</p><p>40:45 4-part documentary is in process</p><p>42:45 The Last Cyclist is also a film </p><p>45:30 Director Edward Einhorn</p><p>46:25 Terezin Music Foundation</p><p>47:30 Composer Stephen Feigenbaum</p><p>48:00 Artwork by Mark Podwal</p><p>48:45 The Last Cyclist’s ongoing relevance to address bigotry and bullying</p><p>49:40 justice facilitated by The Last Cyclist</p><p><br/></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Send us Fan Mail To learn more, please visit Vertigo Graffiti's website.   Show Notes:  2:00 relationship with public space changes when art is placed in it 4:00 nature of graffiti; Vertigo blog’s proposal to leave graffiti in Bogotá’s transit system 10:00 focus of Vertigo’s graffiti on universal issues of tolerance, acceptance and diversity 15:00 ‘Kiss of the Invisibles’ mural 23:00 graffiti’s ability to help create empathy for others 25:30 reaction to public murals 31:00 advise to graffiti ...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>To learn more, please visit <a href='https://en.vertigograffiti.com'>Vertigo Graffiti&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/> Show Notes:<br/><br/>2:00 relationship with public space changes when art is placed in it</p><p>4:00 nature of graffiti; Vertigo blog’s proposal to leave graffiti in Bogotá’s transit system</p><p>10:00 focus of Vertigo’s graffiti on universal issues of tolerance, acceptance and diversity</p><p>15:00 ‘Kiss of the Invisibles’ mural</p><p>23:00 graffiti’s ability to help create empathy for others</p><p>25:30 reaction to public murals</p><p>31:00 advise to graffiti artists to doubt everything </p><p>33:30 self-sensorship</p><p>39:00 ‘Shared Glance’ mural </p><p>47:30 legal spaces for graffiti</p><p>52:00 Grandmother series</p><p>1:04:00 thoughts for those who doubt the importance of graffiti<br/><br/><br/></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>To learn more, please visit <a href='https://en.vertigograffiti.com'>Vertigo Graffiti&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/> Show Notes:<br/><br/>2:00 relationship with public space changes when art is placed in it</p><p>4:00 nature of graffiti; Vertigo blog’s proposal to leave graffiti in Bogotá’s transit system</p><p>10:00 focus of Vertigo’s graffiti on universal issues of tolerance, acceptance and diversity</p><p>15:00 ‘Kiss of the Invisibles’ mural</p><p>23:00 graffiti’s ability to help create empathy for others</p><p>25:30 reaction to public murals</p><p>31:00 advise to graffiti artists to doubt everything </p><p>33:30 self-sensorship</p><p>39:00 ‘Shared Glance’ mural </p><p>47:30 legal spaces for graffiti</p><p>52:00 Grandmother series</p><p>1:04:00 thoughts for those who doubt the importance of graffiti<br/><br/><br/></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <title>Glance at Culture - Defiant Requiem: Maestro Murry Sidlin on Terezín Concentration Camp, Verdi&#39;s Requiem, the Arts &amp; Social Justice</title>
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    <description><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>For more information, please visit the <a href='https://www.defiantrequiem.org'>Defiant Requiem Foundation&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>3:30 Maestro Murry Sidlin’s creation of  concert-drama <em>Defiant Requiem: Verdi at Terezín</em> </p><p>6:00  Eizenstat’s contribution to formation of Defiant Requiem foundation</p><p>8:00 Rafael Schächter’s background and work before being interned at Terezín</p><p>10:40 Schächter’s decision to pack <b>the</b> Czech opera, Bedrich Smetana’s <em>Bartered Bride</em></p><p>11:50 Schächter’s decision to pack Verdi’s <em>Requiem Mass </em></p><p>14:30 Terezín Commandants, including SS First Lieutenant Karl Rahm</p><p>16:45 Terezín became a hotbed of arts and humanities</p><p>19:00 Schächter taught Verdi’s <em>Requiem Mass</em><br/> to approximately 150 singers by rote</p><p>20:20 Edgar Krasa’s recollection of Schächter as “merciless” in rehearsals because they “could not afford for any minds to wander”</p><p>21:15 Verdi’s <em>Requiem Mass</em> was performed 16 times at Terezín</p><p>21:45 Edith Steiner Kraus’ recollection that the chorus led by Schächter in Terezín would make one proud “in any urban setting” and the singers were “so far inside the music that we’d returned to Verdi’s desk”</p><p>24:00 Edgar Krasa’s recollection about  controversy between  Jewish Council and Schächter over performing Verdi’s <em>Requiem Mass</em></p><p>31:15 Jewish Council’s concern that <em>Requiem Mass </em>had Catholic origin</p><p>36:50 Sidlin’s one act “speculative history” drama  <em>Mass Appeal 1943 </em>based on Schächter’s meeting with Jewish Council</p><p>38:00 Schächter’s use of Verdi’s Requiem as an act of defiance and to uplift prisoners</p><p>39:30 Jewish Council’s censorship of Ullmann’s <em>Der Kaiser von Atlantis</em> and Kael Švenk’s <em>The Last Cyclist</em></p><p>44:00 Performance of <em>Defiant Requiem</em> at Terezín </p><p>48:30 composer Ilsa Weber at Terezín </p><p>49:55 Inspiration for Foundation’s concert, <em>Hours of Freedom: The Story of the Terezín Composer</em> that includes work by composers such as Victor Ullmann, Pavel Haas, Gideon Klein, Hans Krasa, James Simon, Zikmund Schul, Rudolf Karel and others</p><p>54:00 Pianist and Composer James Simon’s background and work</p><p>56:15 Simon’s colleague Violinist Alma Rosé </p><p>59:00 Pavel Haas and Karel Ančerl</p><p>1:00:20 Conductor Karel Ančerl </p><p>1:01:30 Phillip Silver’s contribution to <em>Hours of Freedom</em></p><p>1:04:10 <em>Hours of Freedom</em> arranged by chapters that include Longing, Hope, etc.</p><p>1:05:00 Composer, Conductor, Pianist, Singer Karel Berman created <em>Terezín Suite</em> that includes <em>Auschwitz Corpse Factory</em> </p><p>1:06:20 10-minute memorial by Martinů</p><p>1:09:00 Maestro Sidlin’s challenge to a description of Ullmann as ‘finding his voice’ in Terezín and his thoughts on Ullmann’s critical essay that described his experience at Terezín </p><p>1:13:45 cloud over many composers was their background training in the law</p><p>1:16:10 misconception that Gideon Klein learned to compose at <em>Terezín</em></p><p>1:16:50 Strauss’ unsuccessful efforts to have daughter-in-law’s grandmother released from <em>Terezín</em></p><p>1:20:00 Maestro Sidlin as messenger </p><p><br/></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>For more information, please visit the <a href='https://www.defiantrequiem.org'>Defiant Requiem Foundation&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>3:30 Maestro Murry Sidlin’s creation of  concert-drama <em>Defiant Requiem: Verdi at Terezín</em> </p><p>6:00  Eizenstat’s contribution to formation of Defiant Requiem foundation</p><p>8:00 Rafael Schächter’s background and work before being interned at Terezín</p><p>10:40 Schächter’s decision to pack <b>the</b> Czech opera, Bedrich Smetana’s <em>Bartered Bride</em></p><p>11:50 Schächter’s decision to pack Verdi’s <em>Requiem Mass </em></p><p>14:30 Terezín Commandants, including SS First Lieutenant Karl Rahm</p><p>16:45 Terezín became a hotbed of arts and humanities</p><p>19:00 Schächter taught Verdi’s <em>Requiem Mass</em><br/> to approximately 150 singers by rote</p><p>20:20 Edgar Krasa’s recollection of Schächter as “merciless” in rehearsals because they “could not afford for any minds to wander”</p><p>21:15 Verdi’s <em>Requiem Mass</em> was performed 16 times at Terezín</p><p>21:45 Edith Steiner Kraus’ recollection that the chorus led by Schächter in Terezín would make one proud “in any urban setting” and the singers were “so far inside the music that we’d returned to Verdi’s desk”</p><p>24:00 Edgar Krasa’s recollection about  controversy between  Jewish Council and Schächter over performing Verdi’s <em>Requiem Mass</em></p><p>31:15 Jewish Council’s concern that <em>Requiem Mass </em>had Catholic origin</p><p>36:50 Sidlin’s one act “speculative history” drama  <em>Mass Appeal 1943 </em>based on Schächter’s meeting with Jewish Council</p><p>38:00 Schächter’s use of Verdi’s Requiem as an act of defiance and to uplift prisoners</p><p>39:30 Jewish Council’s censorship of Ullmann’s <em>Der Kaiser von Atlantis</em> and Kael Švenk’s <em>The Last Cyclist</em></p><p>44:00 Performance of <em>Defiant Requiem</em> at Terezín </p><p>48:30 composer Ilsa Weber at Terezín </p><p>49:55 Inspiration for Foundation’s concert, <em>Hours of Freedom: The Story of the Terezín Composer</em> that includes work by composers such as Victor Ullmann, Pavel Haas, Gideon Klein, Hans Krasa, James Simon, Zikmund Schul, Rudolf Karel and others</p><p>54:00 Pianist and Composer James Simon’s background and work</p><p>56:15 Simon’s colleague Violinist Alma Rosé </p><p>59:00 Pavel Haas and Karel Ančerl</p><p>1:00:20 Conductor Karel Ančerl </p><p>1:01:30 Phillip Silver’s contribution to <em>Hours of Freedom</em></p><p>1:04:10 <em>Hours of Freedom</em> arranged by chapters that include Longing, Hope, etc.</p><p>1:05:00 Composer, Conductor, Pianist, Singer Karel Berman created <em>Terezín Suite</em> that includes <em>Auschwitz Corpse Factory</em> </p><p>1:06:20 10-minute memorial by Martinů</p><p>1:09:00 Maestro Sidlin’s challenge to a description of Ullmann as ‘finding his voice’ in Terezín and his thoughts on Ullmann’s critical essay that described his experience at Terezín </p><p>1:13:45 cloud over many composers was their background training in the law</p><p>1:16:10 misconception that Gideon Klein learned to compose at <em>Terezín</em></p><p>1:16:50 Strauss’ unsuccessful efforts to have daughter-in-law’s grandmother released from <em>Terezín</em></p><p>1:20:00 Maestro Sidlin as messenger </p><p><br/></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Send us Fan Mail Please visit the website devoted to Arthur Szyk to learn more.  SHOW NOTES: 3:00 Ungar’s introduction to Szyk 10:15 Byron Sherwin’s involvement with creating a solo show Justice Illuminated: The Art of Arthur Szyk in Chicago with the Spertus Institute of Jewish Studies  15:25 2000 Library of Congress exhibition, Artist for Freedom 21:00 2002 U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum’s exhibition, The Art and Politics of Arthur Szyk  23:25 Biography of Szyk by Joseph Ansell entitled...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>Please visit the website devoted to <a href='https://www.szyk.com'>Arthur Szyk</a> to learn more.<br/><br/><b>SHOW NOTES</b>:</p><p>3:00 Ungar’s introduction to Szyk</p><p>10:15 Byron Sherwin’s involvement with creating a solo show <em>Justice Illuminated: The Art of Arthur Szyk </em>in Chicago with the Spertus Institute of Jewish Studies </p><p>15:25 2000 Library of Congress exhibition, <em>Artist for Freedom</em></p><p>21:00 2002 U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum’s exhibition, <em>The Art and Politics of Arthur Szyk<br/><br/></em>23:25 Biography of Szyk by Joseph Ansell entitled <em>Arthur Szyk: Artist, Jew, Pole</em></p><p>25:20 Exhibitions in Poland</p><p>32:45 2008 Deutshes Historiches museum exhibition</p><p>42:00 2017 New York Historical Society exhibition <em>Soldier In Art</em></p><p>50:50 Bergson Group</p><p>55:50 McCarthyism &amp; Szyk’s <em>Thomas Jefferson’s Oath</em>: “I have sworn upon the altar of God eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man. </p><p>1:07:15 2017 Ungar’s book <em>Arthur Szyk: Soldier In Art</em> won 2017 National Jewish Book Award</p><p>1:13:20 Wagner</p><p>1:22:30 Comparison of Chagall’s White Crucifixion, Picasso’s Guernica and Szyk’s <em>De Profundis</em></p><p>1:30:25 Japanese Historian Rinjiro Sodei’s book illustrated with Szyk’s work, <em>Representing Hirohito in Wartime: The Art of Arthur Szyk</em></p><p>1:44:45 Book in progress to list the thirty institutions that hold Szyk’s work</p><p>1:46:35 Ungar’s memoir, <em>Reviving An Artist’s Fame: My Life With Arthur Szyk</em></p><p>1:48:00 Short documentaries about Szyk <br/><br/><br/></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>Please visit the website devoted to <a href='https://www.szyk.com'>Arthur Szyk</a> to learn more.<br/><br/><b>SHOW NOTES</b>:</p><p>3:00 Ungar’s introduction to Szyk</p><p>10:15 Byron Sherwin’s involvement with creating a solo show <em>Justice Illuminated: The Art of Arthur Szyk </em>in Chicago with the Spertus Institute of Jewish Studies </p><p>15:25 2000 Library of Congress exhibition, <em>Artist for Freedom</em></p><p>21:00 2002 U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum’s exhibition, <em>The Art and Politics of Arthur Szyk<br/><br/></em>23:25 Biography of Szyk by Joseph Ansell entitled <em>Arthur Szyk: Artist, Jew, Pole</em></p><p>25:20 Exhibitions in Poland</p><p>32:45 2008 Deutshes Historiches museum exhibition</p><p>42:00 2017 New York Historical Society exhibition <em>Soldier In Art</em></p><p>50:50 Bergson Group</p><p>55:50 McCarthyism &amp; Szyk’s <em>Thomas Jefferson’s Oath</em>: “I have sworn upon the altar of God eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man. </p><p>1:07:15 2017 Ungar’s book <em>Arthur Szyk: Soldier In Art</em> won 2017 National Jewish Book Award</p><p>1:13:20 Wagner</p><p>1:22:30 Comparison of Chagall’s White Crucifixion, Picasso’s Guernica and Szyk’s <em>De Profundis</em></p><p>1:30:25 Japanese Historian Rinjiro Sodei’s book illustrated with Szyk’s work, <em>Representing Hirohito in Wartime: The Art of Arthur Szyk</em></p><p>1:44:45 Book in progress to list the thirty institutions that hold Szyk’s work</p><p>1:46:35 Ungar’s memoir, <em>Reviving An Artist’s Fame: My Life With Arthur Szyk</em></p><p>1:48:00 Short documentaries about Szyk <br/><br/><br/></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Send us Fan Mail The following is a link to the Nelson-Atkins Museum's Discriminating Thieves Exhibition.  4:15 How Discriminating Thieves exhibition came about 6:20 Title of Discriminating Thieves exhibition came from correspondence by Nelson-Atkins’ first director Paul Gardner 7:30 One of the four works in the exhibition: painting by German Expressionist Emil Nolde titled Masks  8:50 Karl Buchholz held Masks for a decade until 1948 when he sent it to dealer Curt Valentin   11:30 N...]]></itunes:summary>
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    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>The following is a link to the <a href='https://nelson-atkins.org/exhibitions/discriminating-thieves/'>Nelson-Atkins Museum&apos;s Discriminating Thieves Exhibition</a>.<br/><br/>4:15 How <em>Discriminating Thieves</em> exhibition came about</p><p>6:20 Title of <em>Discriminating Thieves</em> exhibition came from correspondence by Nelson-Atkins’ first director Paul Gardner</p><p>7:30 One of the four works in the exhibition: painting by German Expressionist Emil Nolde titled <em>Masks</em> </p><p>8:50 Karl Buchholz held <em>Masks</em> for a decade until 1948 when he sent it to dealer Curt Valentin <br/><br/>11:30 Nolde was a member of Nazi party but still targeted by Nazis</p><p>15:00 Pitfalls of researching women</p><p>18:00 Marguerite Stern’s ownership of Jean – Francois Ducis’ 1779 Bust of Augustin Pajou </p><p>19:50 Pierre Bonnard’s <em>Still life with Guelder Roses</em></p><p>21:30 Nicolas de Largillière’s <em>Augustus the Strong</em> – erroneously listed on property card as portrait of King Frederick of Denmark </p><p>25:00 2019 <em>Collecting and Provenance: A Multidisciplinary Appr</em>oach by Jane Milosch, Nick Pearce</p><p><b>25:50 German-American Provenance Research Exchange with the </b>Smithsonian Provenance Research Initiative and Prussian Cultural Heritage Foundation was a “game changer”</p><p>35:35 Guest speaker for Discriminating Thieves Exhibition was Corine Wegener, Director of the Smithsonian Cultural Rescue Initiative</p><p>42:00 The process of provenance research is never finished as new resources become available </p><p>44:30 Importance of research in museum setting by individuals with specialized knowledge</p><p>46:30 Cincinnati Art Museum’s exhibition <em>Paintings, Politics and the Monuments Men: The Berlin Masterpieces in America</em></p><p>47:30 Nelson-Atkins’ first curator of European Art Patrick Kelleher was one of the signatories of the Weisbaden Manifesto<br/><br/><br/></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Send us Fan Mail Below is the email for Dr. Jacques Schuhmacher:  j.schuhmacher@vam.ac.uk  The following is a link for more information on the Victoria &amp; Albert Museum's Concealed Histories Exhibit. SHOW NOTES  3:30 importance of provenance research regarding potential for Nazi-looted art in collections outside of countries that had been occupied by the Nazis  7:35 provenance gaps in Gilbert Collection didn’t raise concerns when the Gilberts were acquiring the collection;  ...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>Below is the email for Dr. Jacques Schuhmacher: <br/>j.schuhmacher@vam.ac.uk<br/><br/>The following is a link for more information on the Victoria &amp; Albert Museum&apos;s <a href='https://www.vam.ac.uk/exhibitions/concealed-histories-uncovering-the-story-of-nazi-looting'><em>Concealed Histories </em>Exhibit</a>.</p><p><em>SHOW NOTES</em></p><p> 3:30 importance of provenance research regarding potential for Nazi-looted art in collections outside of countries that had been occupied by the Nazis</p><p> 7:35 provenance gaps in Gilbert Collection didn’t raise concerns when the Gilberts were acquiring the collection; </p><p> 9:40 Nazi-looted art found in U.S. collections in the 1990s, making this an issue for the international art market </p><p> 10:55 Unclear provenance of snuffbox from Gutmann Collection </p><p> 15:50 massive red flags raised by some objects like the Louis XVI enameled gold snuffbox looted from Maximilian von Goldschmidt-Rothschild</p><p>18:30 Decisions about restitution of looted art are not made by UK museums but by a panel of experts</p><p>19:45 The only restitution to date by the V&amp;A has been of Meissen pieces.</p><p>22:05 even after Monuments Men joined the museum, an unbroken chain in provenance was not necessary; acquisition protocol in the U.K. didn’t change until 1998</p><p>23:40 Deaccession laws in the UK under the Heritage Act were changed with the U.K.’s Holocaust Act 2009 </p><p>35:30 no claims for works in the Gilbert Collection</p><p>37:35 Victoria &amp; Albert Musuem’s <em>Concealed Histories. </em></p><p>38:38 Magdala1868 exhibition of Ethiopian cultural objects inspired V&amp;A’s<em>Concealed Histories.</em></p><p>41:35 MacKenzie Mallon with the Nelson-Atkins Museum had put on the <em>Discriminating Thieves</em> exhibition, which was a huge inspiration for V&amp;A’s <em>Concealed Histories</em>. </p><p> 42:50 Provenance research into Nazi-looted art detached from other types of provenance research</p><p> 44:45 Ethiopian Embassy negotiations for return of objects looted during Colonial era</p><p> 45:00 Long-term loans used to return work that is subject to deaccession laws; example being long term loan of silver item stolen during church festival in Spain</p><p>46:45 In 1999, discovered that V&amp;A had bought in 1950s a silver item without realizing it was stolen in the 1890s in Spain; object has been on long-term loan since 2005</p><p>48:25 Gilbert collection is on 100+ years long term loan</p><p>50:00 Museum Association guidelines for restitution claims being updated</p><p> 51:15 Virtual loans</p><p>52:49 Notion of digital restitution </p><p>54:30 upcoming provenance research handbook for researchers in English-speaking countries </p><p>57:30  idea of a mega-website arose from the 1998 Washington Conference to allow cross-referencing to identify objects</p><p>58:35 no replacement for archival research</p><p>1:01:50  provenance research  includes newly acquired objects, loaned objects and objects for which questions are raised</p><p>1:05:15 He studied history and did PhD in German/Allied war crimes then worked at London’s Commission for Looted Art</p><p>1:07:50 Student inquiries about provenance research welcome</p><p> <br/><br/></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>Below is the email for Dr. Jacques Schuhmacher: <br/>j.schuhmacher@vam.ac.uk<br/><br/>The following is a link for more information on the Victoria &amp; Albert Museum&apos;s <a href='https://www.vam.ac.uk/exhibitions/concealed-histories-uncovering-the-story-of-nazi-looting'><em>Concealed Histories </em>Exhibit</a>.</p><p><em>SHOW NOTES</em></p><p> 3:30 importance of provenance research regarding potential for Nazi-looted art in collections outside of countries that had been occupied by the Nazis</p><p> 7:35 provenance gaps in Gilbert Collection didn’t raise concerns when the Gilberts were acquiring the collection; </p><p> 9:40 Nazi-looted art found in U.S. collections in the 1990s, making this an issue for the international art market </p><p> 10:55 Unclear provenance of snuffbox from Gutmann Collection </p><p> 15:50 massive red flags raised by some objects like the Louis XVI enameled gold snuffbox looted from Maximilian von Goldschmidt-Rothschild</p><p>18:30 Decisions about restitution of looted art are not made by UK museums but by a panel of experts</p><p>19:45 The only restitution to date by the V&amp;A has been of Meissen pieces.</p><p>22:05 even after Monuments Men joined the museum, an unbroken chain in provenance was not necessary; acquisition protocol in the U.K. didn’t change until 1998</p><p>23:40 Deaccession laws in the UK under the Heritage Act were changed with the U.K.’s Holocaust Act 2009 </p><p>35:30 no claims for works in the Gilbert Collection</p><p>37:35 Victoria &amp; Albert Musuem’s <em>Concealed Histories. </em></p><p>38:38 Magdala1868 exhibition of Ethiopian cultural objects inspired V&amp;A’s<em>Concealed Histories.</em></p><p>41:35 MacKenzie Mallon with the Nelson-Atkins Museum had put on the <em>Discriminating Thieves</em> exhibition, which was a huge inspiration for V&amp;A’s <em>Concealed Histories</em>. </p><p> 42:50 Provenance research into Nazi-looted art detached from other types of provenance research</p><p> 44:45 Ethiopian Embassy negotiations for return of objects looted during Colonial era</p><p> 45:00 Long-term loans used to return work that is subject to deaccession laws; example being long term loan of silver item stolen during church festival in Spain</p><p>46:45 In 1999, discovered that V&amp;A had bought in 1950s a silver item without realizing it was stolen in the 1890s in Spain; object has been on long-term loan since 2005</p><p>48:25 Gilbert collection is on 100+ years long term loan</p><p>50:00 Museum Association guidelines for restitution claims being updated</p><p> 51:15 Virtual loans</p><p>52:49 Notion of digital restitution </p><p>54:30 upcoming provenance research handbook for researchers in English-speaking countries </p><p>57:30  idea of a mega-website arose from the 1998 Washington Conference to allow cross-referencing to identify objects</p><p>58:35 no replacement for archival research</p><p>1:01:50  provenance research  includes newly acquired objects, loaned objects and objects for which questions are raised</p><p>1:05:15 He studied history and did PhD in German/Allied war crimes then worked at London’s Commission for Looted Art</p><p>1:07:50 Student inquiries about provenance research welcome</p><p> <br/><br/></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>To view available rewards for supporting the podcast, please visit <a href='https://www.patreon.com/warfareofartandlaw'>Warfare&apos;s Patreon page</a>.<br/><br/>Show Notes:</p><p>3:55 Marc Chagall&apos;s Passion imagery led the way for other artists</p><p>8:00 Lea Grundig</p><p>9:30 Francis Bacon</p><p>12:20 Mark Rothko</p><p>15:15 Picasso</p><p>20:05 Robert Morris</p><p>22:55 Jean Fautrier</p><p>25:25 Naftali Bezem; Igael Tumarkin</p><p>27:35 Lea Grundig</p><p>32:25 Hans Grundig</p><p>32:50  Zoran Music</p><p>35:45 Artists in Terezin: Bedrich Fritta and Leo Hassin </p><p>44:00 Sculptors Jacques Lipschitz and Leonard Baskin </p><p>52:20 Artists not in Holocaust who integrated Holocaust iconography</p><p>55:45 Anselm Kiefer</p><p>56:55 <a href='http://www.columbia.edu/itc/history/winter/w3206/edit/celan.html'><em>Death Fugue</em></a> by Holocaust survivor Paul Celan </p><p>58:00 Kiefer’s Margarethe and Shulamith series</p><p><br/></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <title>Institute of Art &amp; Law: Alexander Herman &amp; Emily Gould on Restitution, the Holocaust, Copyright, NFTs and Benin Bronzes</title>
    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Send us Fan Mail The following are links for more information about the Institute of Art and Law and the LLM program.  To view available rewards for supporting the podcast, please visit Warfare's Patreon page.  Show Notes: 3:05 Alexander Herman discusses the Institute of Art and Law’s beginning in 1995 4:40 IAL founded by Norman Palmer and Ruth Redmond-Cooper  5:15 IAL mission 7:15 Emily Gould discusses growth of art law 9:20 online courses  10:05 Diploma in Art Profession Law and E...]]></itunes:summary>
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    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>The following are links for more information about the <a href='https://ial.uk.com'>Institute of Art and Law</a> and the <a href='https://www.qmul.ac.uk/postgraduate/taught/coursefinder/courses/art-business-and-law-llm/'>LLM program</a>.<br/><br/>To view available rewards for supporting the podcast, please visit <a href='https://www.patreon.com/warfareofartandlaw'>Warfare&apos;s Patreon page</a>.<br/><br/>Show Notes:</p><p>3:05 Alexander Herman discusses the Institute of Art and Law’s beginning in 1995</p><p>4:40 IAL founded by Norman Palmer and Ruth Redmond-Cooper </p><p>5:15 IAL mission</p><p>7:15 Emily Gould discusses growth of art law</p><p>9:20 online courses </p><p>10:05 Diploma in Art Profession Law and Ethics; next beginning online 5 June 2021</p><p>11:45 Diploma in Law and Collections Management </p><p>12:15 Diploma in IP and Collections</p><p>13:25 Art as Security Seminar </p><p>13:50 Restitution Dialogues</p><p>16:30 Blog </p><p>16:50  Herman’s blog post on Copyright in America</p><p>18:10 <em>Cariou v. Prince </em></p><p>20:55 <em>Marano v Metropolitan Museum of Art</em></p><p>23:00 Herman’s transformation of cover art from Supertramp’s 1979 album </p><p>26:10  Gould&apos;s blog on Benin Bronzes</p><p>35:50 <em>Museums and the Holocaust, Second Edition</em>  </p><p>37:35  UK Holocaust Act</p><p>46:14 Topics covered in  Art Antiquity and Law Journal</p><p>51:05 Art, Business and Law LLM </p><p>57:45 Conflicts and compliments of art and  law</p><p>1:00:45 NFTs</p><p>1:07:00 Smart contracts for NFTs</p><p>1:08:00 impact of art law and culture </p><p>1:12:15 IAL speaks to justice by informing the public of the complexities within art law matters <br/><br/><br/></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <description><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>Here are links for more information on <a href='https://houmuse.org/visit/rothko-chapel/'>The Rothko Chapel</a> and for <a href='https://vimeo.com/47688500'>the film trailer on The Rothko Chapel</a>.<br/><br/><br/></p><p><br/></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>Here are links for more information on <a href='https://houmuse.org/visit/rothko-chapel/'>The Rothko Chapel</a> and for <a href='https://vimeo.com/47688500'>the film trailer on The Rothko Chapel</a>.<br/><br/><br/></p><p><br/></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Send us Fan Mail Cocktails with a Curator's episode on Lady Meux can be viewed here.    Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com  Music by Toulme.  To hear more episodes, please visit Warfare of Art and Law podcast's website.  To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com.   ...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>Cocktails with a Curator&apos;s episode on Lady Meux can be viewed <a href='https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U2QyGOtPAEY'>here</a>.<br/><br/><br/></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>Cocktails with a Curator&apos;s episode on Lady Meux can be viewed <a href='https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U2QyGOtPAEY'>here</a>.<br/><br/><br/></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <description><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>Second Saturday Art + Justice is an offering from the non-profit <a href='http://arthausforjustice.faso.com'>Art Haus for Justice</a>.<br/><br/><br/></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>Second Saturday Art + Justice is an offering from the non-profit <a href='http://arthausforjustice.faso.com'>Art Haus for Justice</a>.<br/><br/><br/></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Send us Fan Mail Link for Toyland.    Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com  Music by Toulme.  To hear more episodes, please visit Warfare of Art and Law podcast's website.  To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com.   Thanks so much for listening!   This podcast and i...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p><a href='https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PwrySjp4J9Q'>Link</a> for Toyland.<br/><br/><br/></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p><a href='https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PwrySjp4J9Q'>Link</a> for Toyland.<br/><br/><br/></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <title>Art Researcher Nathan Diament On the Legacy of Artist J.D. Kirszenbaum (1900-1954)</title>
    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Send us Fan Mail To view the works of J.D. Kirszenbaum, please visit the website created by Mr. Diament and please follow this link to see a presentation from Nathan Diament on the life and work of Kirszenbaum.  To view rewards for supporting the podcast, please visit Warfare's Patreon page.  Show Notes 04:30 Kirszenbaum’s work in Belgium after World War II 07:00 Israeli Museum Curator’s belief Kirszenbaum’s legacy should not die 07:40 Prof. Ziva Amishai-Maisels’ encouragement of Diament’s re...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>To view the works of J.D. Kirszenbaum, please visit the <a href='https://www.kirszenbaum.com'>website</a> created by Mr. Diament and please follow this <a href='https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JsUXlvHp06I'>link</a> to see a presentation from Nathan Diament on the life and work of Kirszenbaum.<br/><br/>To view rewards for supporting the podcast, please visit <a href='https://www.patreon.com/warfareofartandlaw'>Warfare&apos;s Patreon page</a>.<br/><br/><b>Show Notes</b></p><p>04:30 Kirszenbaum’s work in Belgium after World War II</p><p>07:00 Israeli Museum Curator’s belief Kirszenbaum’s legacy should not die</p><p>07:40 Prof. Ziva Amishai-Maisels’ encouragement of Diament’s research</p><p>08:30 Art Loss Register and Kandinsky Library at Centre Pompidou </p><p>09:15 600 of Kirszenbaum’s works burned during World War II</p><p>10:30 Baroness Alix de Rothschild’s assistance</p><p>11:20 Tel Aviv Museum’s works by Kirszenbaum</p><p>12:00 Dutch Artist Paul Lindgreen, a student of Kirszenbaum’s</p><p>12:20 Frans Hals Museum in Holland</p><p>13:50 Approximately 200 of Kirszenbaum’s works located</p><p>14:20 Israeli Exhibition of Kirszenbaum’s work in 2013</p><p>16:30 Baroness Alix de Rothschild’s assistance</p><p>19:20 Book <em>J.D. Kirszenbaum (1900-1954) The Lost Generation</em></p><p>21:00 Croatian exhibition of Kirszenbaum’s work</p><p>22:00 Dutch Artist Paul Lindgreen, a student of Kirszenbaum’s</p><p>23:30 German exhibition of Kirszenbaum’s work</p><p>24:00 French exhibition of Kirszenbaum’s work upcoming</p><p>25:00 Kirszenbaum’s works about the Messiah and the Prophets</p><p>26:00 Tel Aviv Museum; Kirszenbaum’s <em>Self Portrait with Cubism</em></p><p>26:55 Kirszenbaum’s caricatures in Germany during the world wars</p><p>28:00 Kandinsky Library at the Pompidou Center </p><p>30:00 Baroness Alix de Rothschild’s assistance</p><p>34:45 Influences of Kandisky and Klee</p><p>35:55 Horseman of the Apocalypse</p><p>36:20 Kirszenbaum’s emancipation </p><p>37:00 Chagall’s life and sources similar to Kirszenbaum’s </p><p>42:40 Felix Nussbaum and Royal Museum of Belgium’s letter about Nussbaum</p><p>44:40 S.S. St. Louis</p><p>46:40 Baroness Alix de Rothschild commission of Prophets Triptych (Elias, Jeremiah, Moses)</p><p>50:00 Diament’s membership with Yad Vashem’s Commission of the Just<br/><br/></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>To view the works of J.D. Kirszenbaum, please visit the <a href='https://www.kirszenbaum.com'>website</a> created by Mr. Diament and please follow this <a href='https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JsUXlvHp06I'>link</a> to see a presentation from Nathan Diament on the life and work of Kirszenbaum.<br/><br/>To view rewards for supporting the podcast, please visit <a href='https://www.patreon.com/warfareofartandlaw'>Warfare&apos;s Patreon page</a>.<br/><br/><b>Show Notes</b></p><p>04:30 Kirszenbaum’s work in Belgium after World War II</p><p>07:00 Israeli Museum Curator’s belief Kirszenbaum’s legacy should not die</p><p>07:40 Prof. Ziva Amishai-Maisels’ encouragement of Diament’s research</p><p>08:30 Art Loss Register and Kandinsky Library at Centre Pompidou </p><p>09:15 600 of Kirszenbaum’s works burned during World War II</p><p>10:30 Baroness Alix de Rothschild’s assistance</p><p>11:20 Tel Aviv Museum’s works by Kirszenbaum</p><p>12:00 Dutch Artist Paul Lindgreen, a student of Kirszenbaum’s</p><p>12:20 Frans Hals Museum in Holland</p><p>13:50 Approximately 200 of Kirszenbaum’s works located</p><p>14:20 Israeli Exhibition of Kirszenbaum’s work in 2013</p><p>16:30 Baroness Alix de Rothschild’s assistance</p><p>19:20 Book <em>J.D. Kirszenbaum (1900-1954) The Lost Generation</em></p><p>21:00 Croatian exhibition of Kirszenbaum’s work</p><p>22:00 Dutch Artist Paul Lindgreen, a student of Kirszenbaum’s</p><p>23:30 German exhibition of Kirszenbaum’s work</p><p>24:00 French exhibition of Kirszenbaum’s work upcoming</p><p>25:00 Kirszenbaum’s works about the Messiah and the Prophets</p><p>26:00 Tel Aviv Museum; Kirszenbaum’s <em>Self Portrait with Cubism</em></p><p>26:55 Kirszenbaum’s caricatures in Germany during the world wars</p><p>28:00 Kandinsky Library at the Pompidou Center </p><p>30:00 Baroness Alix de Rothschild’s assistance</p><p>34:45 Influences of Kandisky and Klee</p><p>35:55 Horseman of the Apocalypse</p><p>36:20 Kirszenbaum’s emancipation </p><p>37:00 Chagall’s life and sources similar to Kirszenbaum’s </p><p>42:40 Felix Nussbaum and Royal Museum of Belgium’s letter about Nussbaum</p><p>44:40 S.S. St. Louis</p><p>46:40 Baroness Alix de Rothschild commission of Prophets Triptych (Elias, Jeremiah, Moses)</p><p>50:00 Diament’s membership with Yad Vashem’s Commission of the Just<br/><br/></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Send us Fan Mail The link to In Every Generation: Remaking the Szyk Haggadah is here.   Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com  Music by Toulme.  To hear more episodes, please visit Warfare of Art and Law podcast's website.  To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com.   ...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>The link to <em>In Every Generation: Remaking the Szyk Haggadah</em> is <a href='http://szyk.com/szyk-haggadah/documentary-film.htm?mnHd=0&amp;mnSubHd=6'>here</a>.<br/><br/></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>The link to <em>In Every Generation: Remaking the Szyk Haggadah</em> is <a href='http://szyk.com/szyk-haggadah/documentary-film.htm?mnHd=0&amp;mnSubHd=6'>here</a>.<br/><br/></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Send us Fan Mail Here is the link to the Institute of Art &amp; Law's Law 101 for Dealers in Art and Antiquities    Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com  Music by Toulme.  To hear more episodes, please visit Warfare of Art and Law podcast's website.  To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@war...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>Here is the link to the Institute of Art &amp; Law&apos;s <a href='https://ial.uk.com/events/law101-dealers/'>Law 101 for Dealers in Art and Antiquities</a><br/><br/><br/></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>Here is the link to the Institute of Art &amp; Law&apos;s <a href='https://ial.uk.com/events/law101-dealers/'>Law 101 for Dealers in Art and Antiquities</a><br/><br/><br/></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <description><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>To learn more, please visit the links to the <a href='https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_FLMRa9WOh4'>documentary short featuring Mr. Ferencz</a> and to the website for <a href='https://benferencz.org'>Mr. Ferencz</a>.<br/><br/><br/><br/></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>To learn more, please visit the links to the <a href='https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_FLMRa9WOh4'>documentary short featuring Mr. Ferencz</a> and to the website for <a href='https://benferencz.org'>Mr. Ferencz</a>.<br/><br/><br/><br/></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <pubDate>Fri, 26 Mar 2021 00:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
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    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Send us Fan Mail The following is a link for more on The $50 Million Art Swindle.    Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com  Music by Toulme.  To hear more episodes, please visit Warfare of Art and Law podcast's website.  To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com.   Tha...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>The following is a link for more on <a href='https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7k5fS0jSVU'>The $50 Million Art Swindle</a>.<br/><br/><br/></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>The following is a link for more on <a href='https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7k5fS0jSVU'>The $50 Million Art Swindle</a>.<br/><br/><br/></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2021 00:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
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    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Send us Fan Mail To view rewards available for support of the podcast, please visit Warfare's Patreon page.  Show notes:  03:20 Banksy lawsuits 04:20 Tradeamarks 10:50 NFTs 11:45 moral rights 14:40 artist's right to disassociate from a work 18:00 Charging Bull &amp; Fearless Girl 19:25 5Pointz 26:15 Banksy NFT 27:00 Certificates of Authenticy from Pest Control Office 30:00 Banksy's The Drinker 34:00 animal selfies 35:30 Harvard lawsuit over daguerreotypes of slaves 53:00 Confederate statutes;...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>To view rewards available for support of the podcast, please visit <a href='https://www.patreon.com/warfareofartandlaw'>Warfare&apos;s Patreon page</a>.<br/><br/>Show notes:<br/><br/>03:20 Banksy lawsuits<br/>04:20 Tradeamarks<br/>10:50 NFTs<br/>11:45 moral rights<br/>14:40 artist&apos;s right to disassociate from a work<br/>18:00 Charging Bull &amp; Fearless Girl<br/>19:25 5Pointz<br/>26:15 Banksy NFT<br/>27:00 Certificates of Authenticy from Pest Control Office<br/>30:00 Banksy&apos;s The Drinker<br/>34:00 animal selfies<br/>35:30 Harvard lawsuit over daguerreotypes of slaves<br/>53:00 Confederate statutes; British statue of Edward Colston<br/>55:00 Guelph Treasure case<br/><br/><br/></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>To view rewards available for support of the podcast, please visit <a href='https://www.patreon.com/warfareofartandlaw'>Warfare&apos;s Patreon page</a>.<br/><br/>Show notes:<br/><br/>03:20 Banksy lawsuits<br/>04:20 Tradeamarks<br/>10:50 NFTs<br/>11:45 moral rights<br/>14:40 artist&apos;s right to disassociate from a work<br/>18:00 Charging Bull &amp; Fearless Girl<br/>19:25 5Pointz<br/>26:15 Banksy NFT<br/>27:00 Certificates of Authenticy from Pest Control Office<br/>30:00 Banksy&apos;s The Drinker<br/>34:00 animal selfies<br/>35:30 Harvard lawsuit over daguerreotypes of slaves<br/>53:00 Confederate statutes; British statue of Edward Colston<br/>55:00 Guelph Treasure case<br/><br/><br/></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Send us Fan Mail The following are  links to the Art Angle Podcast episodes' first and second episodes that feature Dan Hick's discussion of the Benin Bronzes and his book, The Brutish Museums: The Benin Bronzes, Colonial Violence, and Cultural Restitution.    Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com  Music by Toulme.  To hear more episodes, please visit Warfare of Art and Law podcast's website.  To leave questions or comments about this or other ep...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>The following are  links to the Art Angle Podcast episodes&apos; <a href='https://artangle.libsyn.com/the-haunting-history-of-the-benin-bronzes'>first</a> and <a href='https://artangle.libsyn.com/what-will-be-the-fate-of-the-benin-bronzes'>second</a> episodes that feature Dan Hick&apos;s discussion of the Benin Bronzes and his book, <a href='https://www.plutobooks.com/9780745341767/the-brutish-museums/'><em>The Brutish Museums: The Benin Bronzes, Colonial Violence, and Cultural Restitution</em></a><em>.</em><a href='https://artangle.libsyn.com/the-haunting-history-of-the-benin-bronzes'><br/><br/></a><br/></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>The following are  links to the Art Angle Podcast episodes&apos; <a href='https://artangle.libsyn.com/the-haunting-history-of-the-benin-bronzes'>first</a> and <a href='https://artangle.libsyn.com/what-will-be-the-fate-of-the-benin-bronzes'>second</a> episodes that feature Dan Hick&apos;s discussion of the Benin Bronzes and his book, <a href='https://www.plutobooks.com/9780745341767/the-brutish-museums/'><em>The Brutish Museums: The Benin Bronzes, Colonial Violence, and Cultural Restitution</em></a><em>.</em><a href='https://artangle.libsyn.com/the-haunting-history-of-the-benin-bronzes'><br/><br/></a><br/></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Send us Fan Mail The following is a link to a trailer for Ghosts of the Third Reich.    Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com  Music by Toulme.  To hear more episodes, please visit Warfare of Art and Law podcast's website.  To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com.   ...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>The following is a link to a trailer for <a href='https://youtu.be/iAYgkHx8Tn8'>Ghosts of the Third Reich</a>.<br/><br/><br/></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>The following is a link to a trailer for <a href='https://youtu.be/iAYgkHx8Tn8'>Ghosts of the Third Reich</a>.<br/><br/><br/></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Send us Fan Mail The following is a link to the Great Art Explained video about Guernica:   Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com  Music by Toulme.  To hear more episodes, please visit Warfare of Art and Law podcast's website.  To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com.&nbs...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>The following is a link to the <a href='https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJLH7JAsBHA&amp;t=23s'>Great Art Explained video about Guernica</a>:</p><p><br/></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>The following is a link to the <a href='https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJLH7JAsBHA&amp;t=23s'>Great Art Explained video about Guernica</a>:</p><p><br/></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2021 06:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
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    <itunes:title>Glance at Culture - Fireflies in the Dark: The Story of Friedl Dicker-Brandeis and the Children of Terezin</itunes:title>
    <title>Glance at Culture - Fireflies in the Dark: The Story of Friedl Dicker-Brandeis and the Children of Terezin</title>
    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Send us Fan Mail Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com  Music by Toulme.  To hear more episodes, please visit Warfare of Art and Law podcast's website.  To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com.   Thanks so much for listening!   This podcast and its content may not be...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <pubDate>Fri, 19 Feb 2021 06:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
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    <itunes:title>Mosse Art Restitution Project: Director of Investigations J. Eric Bartko On the Washington Principles and Restitution Efforts In Poland, Israel, Russia and the Netherlands</itunes:title>
    <title>Mosse Art Restitution Project: Director of Investigations J. Eric Bartko On the Washington Principles and Restitution Efforts In Poland, Israel, Russia and the Netherlands</title>
    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Send us Fan Mail The following is a link to the Mosse Art Restitution Project.   Show Notes:  9:30 - Berlin art dealer Karl Haberstock 11:30 - Lepke and Union auctions 13:30 - Berliner Tageblatt 23:50 - Washington Principles 27:30 - Three Dancing Maidens fountain, Berg Schlitz 51:00 - German museums, Museum Island 1:02:00 - http://www.lostart.de 1:06:00 - https://www.mari-portal.de 1:11:00 - restitution of Winter or Skaters from Arkell Museum 1:15:00 - restitution efforts within Poland 1:17:0...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>The following is a link to the <a href='https://www.mosseartproject.com'>Mosse Art Restitution Project</a>. <br/><br/>Show Notes:<br/><br/>9:30 - Berlin art dealer Karl Haberstock<br/>11:30 - Lepke and Union auctions<br/>13:30 - Berliner Tageblatt<br/>23:50 - Washington Principles<br/>27:30 - Three Dancing Maidens fountain, Berg Schlitz<br/>51:00 - German museums, Museum Island<br/>1:02:00 - <a href='http://www.lostart.de'>http://www.lostart.de</a><br/>1:06:00 - <a href='https://www.mari-portal.de'>https://www.mari-portal.de</a><br/>1:11:00 - restitution of <em>Winter</em> or <em>Skaters</em> from Arkell Museum<br/>1:15:00 - restitution efforts within Poland<br/>1:17:00 - restitution efforts within Israel<br/>1:21:00 - Germany&apos;s holding of Karl Blechen&apos;s <em>Scholastica</em> <br/>1:25:00 - restitution efforts within Russia <br/>1:31:00 - restitution efforts within Israel<br/>1:40:00 - restitution efforts within the Netherlands<br/><br/><br/></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>The following is a link to the <a href='https://www.mosseartproject.com'>Mosse Art Restitution Project</a>. <br/><br/>Show Notes:<br/><br/>9:30 - Berlin art dealer Karl Haberstock<br/>11:30 - Lepke and Union auctions<br/>13:30 - Berliner Tageblatt<br/>23:50 - Washington Principles<br/>27:30 - Three Dancing Maidens fountain, Berg Schlitz<br/>51:00 - German museums, Museum Island<br/>1:02:00 - <a href='http://www.lostart.de'>http://www.lostart.de</a><br/>1:06:00 - <a href='https://www.mari-portal.de'>https://www.mari-portal.de</a><br/>1:11:00 - restitution of <em>Winter</em> or <em>Skaters</em> from Arkell Museum<br/>1:15:00 - restitution efforts within Poland<br/>1:17:00 - restitution efforts within Israel<br/>1:21:00 - Germany&apos;s holding of Karl Blechen&apos;s <em>Scholastica</em> <br/>1:25:00 - restitution efforts within Russia <br/>1:31:00 - restitution efforts within Israel<br/>1:40:00 - restitution efforts within the Netherlands<br/><br/><br/></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <itunes:title>Glance at Culture - Der Kaiser von Atlantis</itunes:title>
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    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Send us Fan Mail The following is a link to the opera Der Kaiser von Atlantis.   Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com  Music by Toulme.  To hear more episodes, please visit Warfare of Art and Law podcast's website.  To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com.   Thanks ...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>The following is a link to the opera <a href='https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1OfiRV5GJw'><em>Der Kaiser von Atlantis</em></a><em>.</em></p><p><br/></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>The following is a link to the opera <a href='https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1OfiRV5GJw'><em>Der Kaiser von Atlantis</em></a><em>.</em></p><p><br/></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2021 06:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
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    <itunes:title>Glance at Culture - Phoenix</itunes:title>
    <title>Glance at Culture - Phoenix</title>
    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Send us Fan Mail Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com  Music by Toulme.  To hear more episodes, please visit Warfare of Art and Law podcast's website.  To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com.   Thanks so much for listening!   This podcast and its content may not be...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <pubDate>Fri, 05 Feb 2021 06:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
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    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Send us Fan Mail The following is a link to the children's opera Brundibár performed in Czech.   Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com  Music by Toulme.  To hear more episodes, please visit Warfare of Art and Law podcast's website.  To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandla...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>The following is a link to the <a href='https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GUEtTpR9ONc'>children&apos;s opera <em>Brundibár</em> performed in Czech</a>.</p><p><br/></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>The following is a link to the <a href='https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GUEtTpR9ONc'>children&apos;s opera <em>Brundibár</em> performed in Czech</a>.</p><p><br/></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <pubDate>Fri, 29 Jan 2021 06:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
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    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Send us Fan Mail The following is a link to the event scheduled to take place on the 25th of January 2021.  In addition, the following are links to the book and additional information about the Wels Family as referenced in the episode.    Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com  Music by Toulme.  To hear more episodes, please visit Warfare of Art and Law podcast's website.  To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast ...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>The following is a link to the event scheduled to take place on the <a href='https://www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/no-night-so-dark-one-familys-story-of-memory-stolen-and-regained-tickets-134645619673'>25th of January 2021</a>.<br/><br/>In addition, the following are links to the <a href='https://english.radio.cz/newly-published-book-1938-depicts-life-pre-war-jewish-family-8702663#player=on'>book</a> and <a href='https://english.radio.cz/new-exhibition-depicts-life-pre-war-czech-jewish-family-8692439'>additional information about the Wels Family</a> as referenced in the episode.<br/><br/> </p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>The following is a link to the event scheduled to take place on the <a href='https://www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/no-night-so-dark-one-familys-story-of-memory-stolen-and-regained-tickets-134645619673'>25th of January 2021</a>.<br/><br/>In addition, the following are links to the <a href='https://english.radio.cz/newly-published-book-1938-depicts-life-pre-war-jewish-family-8702663#player=on'>book</a> and <a href='https://english.radio.cz/new-exhibition-depicts-life-pre-war-czech-jewish-family-8692439'>additional information about the Wels Family</a> as referenced in the episode.<br/><br/> </p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <itunes:title>Glance at Culture - the Hare with Amber Eyes</itunes:title>
    <title>Glance at Culture - the Hare with Amber Eyes</title>
    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Send us Fan Mail Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com  Music by Toulme.  To hear more episodes, please visit Warfare of Art and Law podcast's website.  To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com.   Thanks so much for listening!   This podcast and its content may not be...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <itunes:title>Max Stern Art Restitution Project: Dr. Willi Korte On Restitution of Nazi-Looted Art, Sales Under Duress, and the German Advisory Commission</itunes:title>
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    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Send us Fan Mail Please visit the websites of the Max Stern Art Restitution Project and the Stern Cooperation Project to learn more. To view rewards for supporting the podcast, please visit Warfare's Patreon page. Show Notes: 3:30 Dr. Korte’s initial inquiries in Düsseldorf 4:00 Galerie Stern dealt in Old Masters and 19th / early 20th Century artists 4:30 Dr. Korte’s research of Nazi records and post-war restitution claims 5:50 Stern inventory sold in November 1937 at Lempertz auction house i...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>Please visit the websites of the <a href='https://www.concordia.ca/arts/max-stern.html'>Max Stern Art Restitution Project</a> and the <a href='https://www.zikg.eu/forschung/projekte/projekte-zi/stern-cooperation-project'>Stern Cooperation Project</a> to learn more.<br/>To view rewards for supporting the podcast, please visit <a href='https://www.patreon.com/warfareofartandlaw'>Warfare&apos;s Patreon page</a>.<br/>Show Notes:<br/>3:30 Dr. Korte’s initial inquiries in Düsseldorf<br/>4:00 Galerie Stern dealt in Old Masters and 19th / early 20th Century artists<br/>4:30 Dr. Korte’s research of Nazi records and post-war restitution claims<br/>5:50 Stern inventory sold in November 1937 at Lempertz auction house in Cologne<br/>7:00 Stern’s 1933-1938 inventory  <br/>9:30 post-war restitution proceeding confirmed  1937 auction was a sale under duress<br/>11:30 Stern’s art pursued as stolen property<br/>12:50 Max Stern Art Restitution Project unique as a foundation only<br/>13:30 <em>Girl from the Sabiner Mountains </em>sold at the 1937 Lempertz Auction; surfaced in Rhode Island auction house <br/>14:50 Civil suit for <em>Sabiner Mountains </em>focused on 1937 Auction as stolen property<br/><em>Phases I – III Approach of Restitution</em>:<br/>16:20 Phase I: <em>Sabiner Mountains</em> case argument that sales under duress are the same as seizures and confiscations, and Stern’s 228 paintings were sold as stolen property<br/>17:30 Stern  approached  Customs Service at  U.S. Attorney’s Office in S.D.N.Y. to have remaining 227 paintings reported to Interpol as stolen property<br/>19:50 August 1935 Order from Nazis required Stern to shut  gallery, creating period of persecution that ran until  1937 auction<br/>21:25 Phase II: Italian gallery that held painting sold in  1935-1937 period in its collection ignored requests from project that painting be returned;  painting then seized while it was  in New York; stipulation signed  confirmed  work sold in 1936 was sold under duress<br/>23:10 Phase III: 2019 German Advisory Commission recommended return of painting sold by Stern in 1936, “Uhlans on the March”, and concluded  Stern was under duress as of spring/summer 1933<br/>25:00 Project will now pursue hundreds of paintings sold as of mid-1933<br/>27:00 Private collectors in Europe not held to German Advisory Commission’s recommendations/Washington Principles;  German collector of Sicilian landscape by Andreas Achenbach sold by Stern in 1937 sued for its listing with Interpol.<br/>35:00  Dynamic within Germany’s  Commission  appointment of two Jewish members.<br/>36:45 Paintings sought are mostly on  German art market with some Dutch Old Masters expected to  appear on  European/ U.S. markets.<br/>43:20 Bruegel painting  returned by the Dutch Government.<br/>44:30  recent criticism of  Dutch commission may invite requests to Dutch Museum.<br/>47:00 Dutch government may have thought these claims were only P.R. problem.<br/>48:00 Jewish gallery owners are  challenging group seeking restitution. <br/>52:45 justice is part of the Project’s work and  losses that have occurred thus far.<br/>58:00  Stern Cooperation Project is a German-Canadian-Israeli scholarly research project  focused on the Stern family.<br/><br/><br/></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>Please visit the websites of the <a href='https://www.concordia.ca/arts/max-stern.html'>Max Stern Art Restitution Project</a> and the <a href='https://www.zikg.eu/forschung/projekte/projekte-zi/stern-cooperation-project'>Stern Cooperation Project</a> to learn more.<br/>To view rewards for supporting the podcast, please visit <a href='https://www.patreon.com/warfareofartandlaw'>Warfare&apos;s Patreon page</a>.<br/>Show Notes:<br/>3:30 Dr. Korte’s initial inquiries in Düsseldorf<br/>4:00 Galerie Stern dealt in Old Masters and 19th / early 20th Century artists<br/>4:30 Dr. Korte’s research of Nazi records and post-war restitution claims<br/>5:50 Stern inventory sold in November 1937 at Lempertz auction house in Cologne<br/>7:00 Stern’s 1933-1938 inventory  <br/>9:30 post-war restitution proceeding confirmed  1937 auction was a sale under duress<br/>11:30 Stern’s art pursued as stolen property<br/>12:50 Max Stern Art Restitution Project unique as a foundation only<br/>13:30 <em>Girl from the Sabiner Mountains </em>sold at the 1937 Lempertz Auction; surfaced in Rhode Island auction house <br/>14:50 Civil suit for <em>Sabiner Mountains </em>focused on 1937 Auction as stolen property<br/><em>Phases I – III Approach of Restitution</em>:<br/>16:20 Phase I: <em>Sabiner Mountains</em> case argument that sales under duress are the same as seizures and confiscations, and Stern’s 228 paintings were sold as stolen property<br/>17:30 Stern  approached  Customs Service at  U.S. Attorney’s Office in S.D.N.Y. to have remaining 227 paintings reported to Interpol as stolen property<br/>19:50 August 1935 Order from Nazis required Stern to shut  gallery, creating period of persecution that ran until  1937 auction<br/>21:25 Phase II: Italian gallery that held painting sold in  1935-1937 period in its collection ignored requests from project that painting be returned;  painting then seized while it was  in New York; stipulation signed  confirmed  work sold in 1936 was sold under duress<br/>23:10 Phase III: 2019 German Advisory Commission recommended return of painting sold by Stern in 1936, “Uhlans on the March”, and concluded  Stern was under duress as of spring/summer 1933<br/>25:00 Project will now pursue hundreds of paintings sold as of mid-1933<br/>27:00 Private collectors in Europe not held to German Advisory Commission’s recommendations/Washington Principles;  German collector of Sicilian landscape by Andreas Achenbach sold by Stern in 1937 sued for its listing with Interpol.<br/>35:00  Dynamic within Germany’s  Commission  appointment of two Jewish members.<br/>36:45 Paintings sought are mostly on  German art market with some Dutch Old Masters expected to  appear on  European/ U.S. markets.<br/>43:20 Bruegel painting  returned by the Dutch Government.<br/>44:30  recent criticism of  Dutch commission may invite requests to Dutch Museum.<br/>47:00 Dutch government may have thought these claims were only P.R. problem.<br/>48:00 Jewish gallery owners are  challenging group seeking restitution. <br/>52:45 justice is part of the Project’s work and  losses that have occurred thus far.<br/>58:00  Stern Cooperation Project is a German-Canadian-Israeli scholarly research project  focused on the Stern family.<br/><br/><br/></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Send us Fan Mail Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com  Music by Toulme.  To hear more episodes, please visit Warfare of Art and Law podcast's website.  To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com.   Thanks so much for listening!   This podcast and its content may not be...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Send us Fan Mail Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com  Music by Toulme.  To hear more episodes, please visit Warfare of Art and Law podcast's website.  To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com.   Thanks so much for listening!   This podcast and its content may not be...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <pubDate>Fri, 01 Jan 2021 12:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
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    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Send us Fan Mail Please visit the Moshe Rynecki website to view his work.  To learn more about Elizabeth Rynecki's documentary and book about her journey, Chasing Portraits, please visit the Chasing Portrait's website.  To view rewards for supporting the podcast, please visit Warfare's Patreon page. Show Notes:  2:50 Moshe Rynecki is likened to an ethnographer and documented similar scenes that Roman Vishniac photographed 4:00 three surviving studies from Moshe’s time in the Warsaw Ghett...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>Please visit the <a href='https://rynecki.org'>Moshe Rynecki website</a> to view his work.<br/><br/>To learn more about Elizabeth Rynecki&apos;s documentary and book about her journey, <em>Chasing Portraits</em>, please visit the <a href='https://www.chasingportraits.org'>Chasing Portrait&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To view rewards for supporting the podcast, please visit <a href='https://www.patreon.com/warfareofartandlaw'>Warfare&apos;s Patreon page</a>.</p><p>Show Notes: </p><p>2:50 Moshe Rynecki is likened to an ethnographer and documented similar scenes that Roman Vishniac photographed</p><p>4:00 three surviving studies from Moshe’s time in the Warsaw Ghetto</p><p>5:00 Yehudit Shendar from Yad Vashem</p><p>8:00 Archives of Emanuel Ringelblum from the Warsaw Ghetto</p><p>9:15 Moshe’s decision to stay in Warsaw Ghetto to be with his people</p><p>13:30 Moshe hid 800 artworks;120 of the surviving artworks are with the Ryneckis</p><p>15:08 Warsaw’s Jewish Historical Institute has 52 works</p><p>15:14 Private collectors of Moshe’s work are in Canada, Israel, the U.S. and France</p><p>15:30 How the Jewish Historical Institute acquired the 52 works by Moshe in its collection</p><p>17:00 Restitution issues and historical justice <br/><br/>20:00 Carla Shapreau</p><p>24:00 Artworks are also survivors with a story</p><p>25:00 Elizabeth Rynecki’s decision to author a book and create a film with this story</p><p>27:00 Elizabeth’s advice on seeking lost art: persistence and a sense of practicality</p><p>29:20 Books recommended by Elizabeth, including <em>Landscape with Smoke Stacks: The Case of the Allegedly Plundered Degas</em> that relates to a restitution case involving Simon Goodman </p><p>35:20 Poland’s approach to restitution </p><p><br/></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>Please visit the <a href='https://rynecki.org'>Moshe Rynecki website</a> to view his work.<br/><br/>To learn more about Elizabeth Rynecki&apos;s documentary and book about her journey, <em>Chasing Portraits</em>, please visit the <a href='https://www.chasingportraits.org'>Chasing Portrait&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To view rewards for supporting the podcast, please visit <a href='https://www.patreon.com/warfareofartandlaw'>Warfare&apos;s Patreon page</a>.</p><p>Show Notes: </p><p>2:50 Moshe Rynecki is likened to an ethnographer and documented similar scenes that Roman Vishniac photographed</p><p>4:00 three surviving studies from Moshe’s time in the Warsaw Ghetto</p><p>5:00 Yehudit Shendar from Yad Vashem</p><p>8:00 Archives of Emanuel Ringelblum from the Warsaw Ghetto</p><p>9:15 Moshe’s decision to stay in Warsaw Ghetto to be with his people</p><p>13:30 Moshe hid 800 artworks;120 of the surviving artworks are with the Ryneckis</p><p>15:08 Warsaw’s Jewish Historical Institute has 52 works</p><p>15:14 Private collectors of Moshe’s work are in Canada, Israel, the U.S. and France</p><p>15:30 How the Jewish Historical Institute acquired the 52 works by Moshe in its collection</p><p>17:00 Restitution issues and historical justice <br/><br/>20:00 Carla Shapreau</p><p>24:00 Artworks are also survivors with a story</p><p>25:00 Elizabeth Rynecki’s decision to author a book and create a film with this story</p><p>27:00 Elizabeth’s advice on seeking lost art: persistence and a sense of practicality</p><p>29:20 Books recommended by Elizabeth, including <em>Landscape with Smoke Stacks: The Case of the Allegedly Plundered Degas</em> that relates to a restitution case involving Simon Goodman </p><p>35:20 Poland’s approach to restitution </p><p><br/></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <itunes:title>Nazi Plundered Art: Miriam Friedman Morris On the Legacy of Artist and Activist David Friedmann (1893-1980)</itunes:title>
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    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Send us Fan Mail Cover art: 1922 painting by David Friedmann. To learn more, please visit David Friedmann's site,  view his 1920s portraits, and more:  https://www.yadvashem.org/yv/en/exhibitions/last_portrait/friedmann.asp https://www.visitnorman.com/events/testimony-the-life-and-work-of-david-friedman https://www.jewishgen.org/austriaczech/wall-of-fame/friedmann.html https://blog.nli.org.il/en/lbh_friedmann/?fbclid=IwAR3xrdcUEDhSyMckJDFBEXIPmWAsS8ALOGmtOPdCkMX8uX2nM175CnQ6p9 Show Notes...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>Cover art: 1922 painting by David Friedmann. To learn more, please visit <a href='http://www.davidfriedmann.org'>David Friedmann&apos;s site</a>,  view his <a href='https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQFh748qS5Y&amp;fbclid=IwAR18E_o43rumDGLs02G8S6__K-Ocj8ij0JYdoIZs5r9stRajVzHNpgatQOs'>1920s portraits</a>, and more:<br/><br/><a href='https://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.yadvashem.org%2Fyv%2Fen%2Fexhibitions%2Flast_portrait%2Ffriedmann.asp%3Ffbclid%3DIwAR0rxeVUzbcEKRsEjJLKXyW1oF-Le4-Rr5Ey4mcTL2bn1oE8U4ECHRhlwjs&amp;h=AT32ANqYP-OATRbmha7oCdznEeB3qTSq0DSfVQG_gedoo5YoszFLIUR0qCsa6DnPwFVIMnOGDvSFQTOGJ1V8BtCZm4aFQU5bUSLy4ITxj3hIEB1H_Mrs2QmdSniReKpj-AOtTpcV'>https://www.yadvashem.org/yv/en/exhibitions/last_portrait/friedmann.asp</a><br/><a href='https://www.visitnorman.com/events/testimony-the-life-and-work-of-david-friedman'>https://www.visitnorman.com/events/testimony-the-life-and-work-of-david-friedman</a><br/><a href='https://www.jewishgen.org/austriaczech/wall-of-fame/friedmann.html'>https://www.jewishgen.org/austriaczech/wall-of-fame/friedmann.html</a><br/><a href='https://blog.nli.org.il/en/lbh_friedmann/?fbclid=IwAR3xrdcUEDhSyMckJDFBEXIPmWAsS8ALOGmtOPdCkMX8uX2nM175CnQ6p9U'>https://blog.nli.org.il/en/lbh_friedmann/?fbclid=IwAR3xrdcUEDhSyMckJDFBEXIPmWAsS8ALOGmtOPdCkMX8uX2nM175CnQ6p9</a></p><p>Show Notes:</p><p>2:20 born in 1893 in Austria-Hungary<br/>2:45 Studied with German painter/printmaker Lovis Corinth and German Etcher Hermann Struck </p><p>6:40 Lodz Ghetto then Auschwitz</p><p>11:20  Lodz Ghetto Chronicle header -  Lodz Ghetto Bridge sketch</p><p>12:30 Austrian Writer Oskar Rosenfeld wrote about Friedmann</p><p>13:40 Jewish Museum in Prague</p><p>14:00 Auschwitz Museum donation  of Polish prisoner portrait</p><p>18:40 Berlin’s Centrum Judaicum Synagogue exhibited  Polish Prisoner sketch </p><p>20:30 1943 sketches of hat factory survived</p><p>23:00 Researcher Eva Wiater located album with 33 colorized drawings at  Jewish Historical Institute </p><p>37:00 Artwork surfaced in France marked with number that indicates  auction  </p><p>38:50 Buffalo, New York gallery  gifted Friedman works  </p><p>44:00  claimed 800 missing works in restitution claims - 2,000 actually missing</p><p>48:00  rebuilt  life in  U.S. - created billboards</p><p>49:00  Czech exhibition in  1946 - met second wife, Hildegard Taussig </p><p>52:52 Holocaust paintings 1945-1946 - Palestine office purchased some - 1947 Palestine tour</p><p>53:15 During D.C. Jewish Holocaust Survivior’s Conference in 1983, Miriam learned seven  are held by Yad Vashem and three are at Holocaust History Museum</p><p>55:00 Etching by Friedmann dedicated to his violin teacher located </p><p>1:04:00 Long Island chess player’s heirs donated some of Friedmann’s chess portraits to  Cleveland Public Library</p><p>1:05:00 2009 Holocaust Era Assets Conference Panel in Prague </p><p>1:07:30  two Holocaust series</p><p>1:10:00 Sudeten Germans in Western Bohemia&apos;s use of Holocaust series for ration cards</p><p>1:19:00 1962 returned to  Holocaust paintings </p><p>1:27:00 Drawings of  Prague Jewish Community leaders donated to Yad Vashem</p><p>1:29:00 Album of portraits exchanged between friends</p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>Cover art: 1922 painting by David Friedmann. To learn more, please visit <a href='http://www.davidfriedmann.org'>David Friedmann&apos;s site</a>,  view his <a href='https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQFh748qS5Y&amp;fbclid=IwAR18E_o43rumDGLs02G8S6__K-Ocj8ij0JYdoIZs5r9stRajVzHNpgatQOs'>1920s portraits</a>, and more:<br/><br/><a href='https://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.yadvashem.org%2Fyv%2Fen%2Fexhibitions%2Flast_portrait%2Ffriedmann.asp%3Ffbclid%3DIwAR0rxeVUzbcEKRsEjJLKXyW1oF-Le4-Rr5Ey4mcTL2bn1oE8U4ECHRhlwjs&amp;h=AT32ANqYP-OATRbmha7oCdznEeB3qTSq0DSfVQG_gedoo5YoszFLIUR0qCsa6DnPwFVIMnOGDvSFQTOGJ1V8BtCZm4aFQU5bUSLy4ITxj3hIEB1H_Mrs2QmdSniReKpj-AOtTpcV'>https://www.yadvashem.org/yv/en/exhibitions/last_portrait/friedmann.asp</a><br/><a href='https://www.visitnorman.com/events/testimony-the-life-and-work-of-david-friedman'>https://www.visitnorman.com/events/testimony-the-life-and-work-of-david-friedman</a><br/><a href='https://www.jewishgen.org/austriaczech/wall-of-fame/friedmann.html'>https://www.jewishgen.org/austriaczech/wall-of-fame/friedmann.html</a><br/><a href='https://blog.nli.org.il/en/lbh_friedmann/?fbclid=IwAR3xrdcUEDhSyMckJDFBEXIPmWAsS8ALOGmtOPdCkMX8uX2nM175CnQ6p9U'>https://blog.nli.org.il/en/lbh_friedmann/?fbclid=IwAR3xrdcUEDhSyMckJDFBEXIPmWAsS8ALOGmtOPdCkMX8uX2nM175CnQ6p9</a></p><p>Show Notes:</p><p>2:20 born in 1893 in Austria-Hungary<br/>2:45 Studied with German painter/printmaker Lovis Corinth and German Etcher Hermann Struck </p><p>6:40 Lodz Ghetto then Auschwitz</p><p>11:20  Lodz Ghetto Chronicle header -  Lodz Ghetto Bridge sketch</p><p>12:30 Austrian Writer Oskar Rosenfeld wrote about Friedmann</p><p>13:40 Jewish Museum in Prague</p><p>14:00 Auschwitz Museum donation  of Polish prisoner portrait</p><p>18:40 Berlin’s Centrum Judaicum Synagogue exhibited  Polish Prisoner sketch </p><p>20:30 1943 sketches of hat factory survived</p><p>23:00 Researcher Eva Wiater located album with 33 colorized drawings at  Jewish Historical Institute </p><p>37:00 Artwork surfaced in France marked with number that indicates  auction  </p><p>38:50 Buffalo, New York gallery  gifted Friedman works  </p><p>44:00  claimed 800 missing works in restitution claims - 2,000 actually missing</p><p>48:00  rebuilt  life in  U.S. - created billboards</p><p>49:00  Czech exhibition in  1946 - met second wife, Hildegard Taussig </p><p>52:52 Holocaust paintings 1945-1946 - Palestine office purchased some - 1947 Palestine tour</p><p>53:15 During D.C. Jewish Holocaust Survivior’s Conference in 1983, Miriam learned seven  are held by Yad Vashem and three are at Holocaust History Museum</p><p>55:00 Etching by Friedmann dedicated to his violin teacher located </p><p>1:04:00 Long Island chess player’s heirs donated some of Friedmann’s chess portraits to  Cleveland Public Library</p><p>1:05:00 2009 Holocaust Era Assets Conference Panel in Prague </p><p>1:07:30  two Holocaust series</p><p>1:10:00 Sudeten Germans in Western Bohemia&apos;s use of Holocaust series for ration cards</p><p>1:19:00 1962 returned to  Holocaust paintings </p><p>1:27:00 Drawings of  Prague Jewish Community leaders donated to Yad Vashem</p><p>1:29:00 Album of portraits exchanged between friends</p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Send us Fan Mail For more information, please have a look at The Orpheus Clock by Simon Goodman.  Show Notes: 3:00 Simon Goodman’s background that led to writing The Orpheus Clock 4:30 Location of first looted painting in Chicago in 1995 led to first restitution suit in U.S.  7:00 Nazi inventories and handwritten note by Gutmann gave evidence of looted works; works were sent for safekeeping in Switzerland, the Netherlands and the U.S. 10:30 Anne Webber’s documentary about the Gutmann sto...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>For more information, please have a look at <a href='https://www.simonandschuster.net/books/The-Orpheus-Clock/Simon-Goodman/9781451697643'>The Orpheus Clock by Simon Goodman</a>.<br/><br/>Show Notes:</p><p>3:00 Simon Goodman’s background that led to writing <em>The Orpheus Clock</em></p><p>4:30 Location of first looted painting in Chicago in 1995 led to first restitution suit in U.S. </p><p>7:00 Nazi inventories and handwritten note by Gutmann gave evidence of looted works; works were sent for safekeeping in Switzerland, the Netherlands and the U.S.</p><p>10:30 Anne Webber’s documentary about the Gutmann story, <em>Making a Killing</em></p><p>17:00 Post-war, claimants were required to file individual claimants; Goodman’s father, for example, filed over 1,000 individual claims with the Dutch government</p><p>20:00 Goodman’s senate judiciary testimony to extend the statute of limitations for restitution claims; issues that make locating works difficult include change of dimensions, titles, attributions, etc.</p><p>24:00 Avoiding litigation in favor of negotiations </p><p>30:00 6-7 successful restitutions from Dutch Committee with one pending and a claim to be filed against a museum in the Hague </p><p>32:00 Goodman’s complaints to Dutch Committee about its change of direction to deny claimants based on revisionist thinking that museums have feelings and care about what’s in storage; and adoption of the concept of good and bad heirs</p><p>35:00 Right of inheritance and right to private property are international principles that should be observed</p><p>39:00 Potential claims for return of Goodman’s family home Bosbeek; expectation that one in a concentration camp was still expected to pay their mortgage and property taxes; and government refusal to re-write laws to address these types of injustices</p><p>41:00 Shares of the bank that the family founded in Germany</p><p>42:00 Simon focuses on the art because searching for beautiful thinks makes the search tolerable compared with searching for the missing insurance policies</p><p>43:00 Impediments to heirs include lack of evidence </p><p>49:00 The Orpheus Clock was used as the title of the book because of its symbolism on many levels, including that it was the first direct restitution from a German official body</p><p> 51:00 Restitution for Simon’s grandmother’s fur coats</p><p>52:00 Restitution of Orpheus Clock triggered need to revive family trust and to create compact with remaining cousins, which helped to restore familial relationships broken by the Holocaust</p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>For more information, please have a look at <a href='https://www.simonandschuster.net/books/The-Orpheus-Clock/Simon-Goodman/9781451697643'>The Orpheus Clock by Simon Goodman</a>.<br/><br/>Show Notes:</p><p>3:00 Simon Goodman’s background that led to writing <em>The Orpheus Clock</em></p><p>4:30 Location of first looted painting in Chicago in 1995 led to first restitution suit in U.S. </p><p>7:00 Nazi inventories and handwritten note by Gutmann gave evidence of looted works; works were sent for safekeeping in Switzerland, the Netherlands and the U.S.</p><p>10:30 Anne Webber’s documentary about the Gutmann story, <em>Making a Killing</em></p><p>17:00 Post-war, claimants were required to file individual claimants; Goodman’s father, for example, filed over 1,000 individual claims with the Dutch government</p><p>20:00 Goodman’s senate judiciary testimony to extend the statute of limitations for restitution claims; issues that make locating works difficult include change of dimensions, titles, attributions, etc.</p><p>24:00 Avoiding litigation in favor of negotiations </p><p>30:00 6-7 successful restitutions from Dutch Committee with one pending and a claim to be filed against a museum in the Hague </p><p>32:00 Goodman’s complaints to Dutch Committee about its change of direction to deny claimants based on revisionist thinking that museums have feelings and care about what’s in storage; and adoption of the concept of good and bad heirs</p><p>35:00 Right of inheritance and right to private property are international principles that should be observed</p><p>39:00 Potential claims for return of Goodman’s family home Bosbeek; expectation that one in a concentration camp was still expected to pay their mortgage and property taxes; and government refusal to re-write laws to address these types of injustices</p><p>41:00 Shares of the bank that the family founded in Germany</p><p>42:00 Simon focuses on the art because searching for beautiful thinks makes the search tolerable compared with searching for the missing insurance policies</p><p>43:00 Impediments to heirs include lack of evidence </p><p>49:00 The Orpheus Clock was used as the title of the book because of its symbolism on many levels, including that it was the first direct restitution from a German official body</p><p> 51:00 Restitution for Simon’s grandmother’s fur coats</p><p>52:00 Restitution of Orpheus Clock triggered need to revive family trust and to create compact with remaining cousins, which helped to restore familial relationships broken by the Holocaust</p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Send us Fan Mail The following are links for Jerry Alonzo, Andrew Smith, Taylor Cobb, and Conner Reddan.  Show Notes: Legal and Arts Careers 1:45 Lutswata Enid 8:50 Taylor Cobb 24:45 Conner Reddan 38:00 Andrew Smith 47:50 Jerry Alonzo Defining Justice and Identifying Social Justice Issues 1:19:00 Lutswata Enid 1:23:00 Conner Reddan 1:27:00 Taylor Cobb 1:36:00 Andrew Smith  Perseverance and Mapping Injustice 1:54:45 Taylor Cobb 1:55:35 Jerry Alonzo  Please share your comments an...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>The following are links for <a href='http://www.jerryalonzo.com'>Jerry Alonzo</a>, <a href='http://www.filmandoil.com'>Andrew Smith</a>, <a href='https://www.instagram.com/womensworkstudios/ '>Taylor Cobb</a>, and <a href='https://www.instagram.com/connerreddan'>Conner Reddan</a>. </p><p>Show Notes:</p><p><em>Legal and Arts Careers</em></p><p>1:45 Lutswata Enid</p><p>8:50 Taylor Cobb</p><p>24:45 Conner Reddan</p><p>38:00 Andrew Smith</p><p>47:50 Jerry Alonzo</p><p><em>Defining Justice and Identifying Social Justice Issues</em></p><p>1:19:00 Lutswata Enid</p><p>1:23:00 Conner Reddan</p><p>1:27:00 Taylor Cobb</p><p>1:36:00 Andrew Smith</p><p><em> Perseverance and Mapping Injustice</em></p><p>1:54:45 Taylor Cobb</p><p>1:55:35 Jerry Alonzo </p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>The following are links for <a href='http://www.jerryalonzo.com'>Jerry Alonzo</a>, <a href='http://www.filmandoil.com'>Andrew Smith</a>, <a href='https://www.instagram.com/womensworkstudios/ '>Taylor Cobb</a>, and <a href='https://www.instagram.com/connerreddan'>Conner Reddan</a>. </p><p>Show Notes:</p><p><em>Legal and Arts Careers</em></p><p>1:45 Lutswata Enid</p><p>8:50 Taylor Cobb</p><p>24:45 Conner Reddan</p><p>38:00 Andrew Smith</p><p>47:50 Jerry Alonzo</p><p><em>Defining Justice and Identifying Social Justice Issues</em></p><p>1:19:00 Lutswata Enid</p><p>1:23:00 Conner Reddan</p><p>1:27:00 Taylor Cobb</p><p>1:36:00 Andrew Smith</p><p><em> Perseverance and Mapping Injustice</em></p><p>1:54:45 Taylor Cobb</p><p>1:55:35 Jerry Alonzo </p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Send us Fan Mail To learn more, please visit the Monuments Men and Women Foundation's website. Show Notes: 3:00 348 professionals including architects, librarians and curators comprised the Monuments, Fine Arts and Archives Organization known as the  Monuments Men 4:00 Robert Edsel’s founded of the Monuments Men Foundation  4:40 Foundation’s initial mission to locate living Monuments Men, record their stories and honor their legacies; 2015 ceremony to award Congressional Gold Medal ...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>To learn more, please visit the <a href='https://www.monumentsmenfoundation.org'>Monuments Men and Women Foundation&apos;s website.</a></p><p>Show Notes:</p><p>3:00 348 professionals including architects, librarians and curators comprised the Monuments, Fine Arts and Archives Organization known as the  Monuments Men</p><p>4:00 Robert Edsel’s founded of the Monuments Men Foundation </p><p>4:40 Foundation’s initial mission to locate living Monuments Men, record their stories and honor their legacies; 2015 ceremony to award Congressional Gold Medal to Monuments Men</p><p>6:15 Foundation’s mission includes locating and returning objects looted during World War II; to date, over 38 objects have been located and returned</p><p>7:00 Foundation’s archives given to the National World War II Museum; Museum to open a Monuments Men Gallery</p><p>10:00 Foundation’s mission includes raising awareness about the importance of preserving cultural heritage in all countries; membership program launching soon</p><p>11:00 Foundation also conducts provenance research</p><p>14:00 Foundation’s website features top 15 looted works still missing from World War II</p><p>17:00 Foundation’s alliance with Italian Carabinieri Cultural Heritage Protection Unit</p><p>23:00 Foundation’s return of objects includes to German museums and individuals</p><p>24:30 Foundation’s quarterly newsletter</p><p>25:00 Foundation’s return of Italian books</p><p>26:00 Foundation’s return of paintings to South German gallery </p><p>28:45 Significance of the Wiesbaden Manifesto</p><p>33:00 Foundation’s education programs<br/><br/></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>To learn more, please visit the <a href='https://www.monumentsmenfoundation.org'>Monuments Men and Women Foundation&apos;s website.</a></p><p>Show Notes:</p><p>3:00 348 professionals including architects, librarians and curators comprised the Monuments, Fine Arts and Archives Organization known as the  Monuments Men</p><p>4:00 Robert Edsel’s founded of the Monuments Men Foundation </p><p>4:40 Foundation’s initial mission to locate living Monuments Men, record their stories and honor their legacies; 2015 ceremony to award Congressional Gold Medal to Monuments Men</p><p>6:15 Foundation’s mission includes locating and returning objects looted during World War II; to date, over 38 objects have been located and returned</p><p>7:00 Foundation’s archives given to the National World War II Museum; Museum to open a Monuments Men Gallery</p><p>10:00 Foundation’s mission includes raising awareness about the importance of preserving cultural heritage in all countries; membership program launching soon</p><p>11:00 Foundation also conducts provenance research</p><p>14:00 Foundation’s website features top 15 looted works still missing from World War II</p><p>17:00 Foundation’s alliance with Italian Carabinieri Cultural Heritage Protection Unit</p><p>23:00 Foundation’s return of objects includes to German museums and individuals</p><p>24:30 Foundation’s quarterly newsletter</p><p>25:00 Foundation’s return of Italian books</p><p>26:00 Foundation’s return of paintings to South German gallery </p><p>28:45 Significance of the Wiesbaden Manifesto</p><p>33:00 Foundation’s education programs<br/><br/></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Send us Fan Mail To learn more, please visit Janet Berg's website.  Show Notes:  3:30 Katz Gallery targeted by Nazis as of 1938/39. 4:00 Katz family’s survival based on a Rembrandt painting 6:30 Bergs hired Lynn Nicholas, author of Rape of Europa, to research art looted from Katz Gallery 8:45 Rembrandt’s Portrait of Raman was exchanged with Nazis for 25 Jewish lives, returned by Dutch Government and donated to the L.A. County Museum 10:30 Characters in Rembrandt’s Shadow based on family ...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>To learn more, please visit <a href='http://janetleeberg.com'>Janet Berg&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>Show Notes:</p><p> 3:30 Katz Gallery targeted by Nazis as of 1938/39.</p><p>4:00 Katz family’s survival based on a Rembrandt painting</p><p>6:30 Bergs hired Lynn Nicholas, author of <em>Rape of Europa</em>, to research art looted from Katz Gallery</p><p>8:45 Rembrandt’s <em>Portrait of Raman</em> was exchanged with Nazis for 25 Jewish lives, returned by Dutch Government and donated to the L.A. County Museum</p><p>10:30 Characters in <em>Rembrandt’s Shadow</em> based on family</p><p>12:45 Family  became aware of location of looted paintings when visiting Dutch museum </p><p>15:00 manifestations of trauma </p><p>20:00 Family escaped to Jamaican internment camp</p><p>25:30 Katz Gallery’s inventory meant for  Führermuseum in Linz and for Göring</p><p>27:00 Family is  seeking  return of 144 paintings from Dutch Government</p><p>28:00 Dutch Government  possesses paintings looted from Katz Gallery </p><p>29:00 Nazis gave appearance of legitimacy to sales by Katz Gallery</p><p>31:15 Berg’s second book, <em>Restitution</em></p><p>Katz Gallery History:<br/>In the late 1880s, Dutch Jewish businessman Katz opened a gallery to sell arts and antiquities that became an authoritative leader in the European art world in the 19th into the 20th Century. It specialized in 16th and 17th Century Dutch Master paintings, including those by Rembrandt and one of Rembrandt’s star students, Ferdinand Bol.<br/><br/>Brothers Nathan and Benjamin Katz took over the business in 1930,  attracted Nazi collectors during WWII and by May 1940 they were faced with a choice: sell paintings to Nazi officials like Göring and art dealer Alois Miedl [3] or face torture and murder.  Janet Berg&apos;s husband is the grandson of gallery owner Benjamin Katz. <br/><br/>Many of the Katz Gallery WWII sales became the subject of restitution claims in the Netherlands.  After WWII, the Netherlands was a party to various “Collection Point Agreements” by which it agreed to receive certain looted artworks as a custodian until they could be returned to their owners, including paintings taken from the Katz family.  Many of those works are now on display at various Dutch museums and state buildings, or in their storage. <br/><br/>The terms of those collection point agreements define the Netherlands “as custodians pending the determination of the lawful owners thereof; [and] that said items will be returned to their lawful owners”. By definition, one would imagine that a ‘custodian’ would guard property – not take ownership of it.  <br/><br/>Also as Janet mentioned, the Katz heirs pursued their claims with the Dutch government without much success.  In late 2012, the Dutch Restitution Committee issued its findings related to a claim for return of 189 works “sold” to the Nazis, only recommending return of a single painting.  After that a US suit was filed in federal court that was recently dismissed and is on appeal.<br/><br/>The Bergs&apos; suit in the US is <a href='https://dockets.justia.com/docket/south-carolina/scdce/2:2018cv03123/246688'><em>Berg v. Kingdom of the Netherlands, et al</em>, Docket No. 18-CV-3123 (D.S.C. 2018)</a>.<br/><br/></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>To learn more, please visit <a href='http://janetleeberg.com'>Janet Berg&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>Show Notes:</p><p> 3:30 Katz Gallery targeted by Nazis as of 1938/39.</p><p>4:00 Katz family’s survival based on a Rembrandt painting</p><p>6:30 Bergs hired Lynn Nicholas, author of <em>Rape of Europa</em>, to research art looted from Katz Gallery</p><p>8:45 Rembrandt’s <em>Portrait of Raman</em> was exchanged with Nazis for 25 Jewish lives, returned by Dutch Government and donated to the L.A. County Museum</p><p>10:30 Characters in <em>Rembrandt’s Shadow</em> based on family</p><p>12:45 Family  became aware of location of looted paintings when visiting Dutch museum </p><p>15:00 manifestations of trauma </p><p>20:00 Family escaped to Jamaican internment camp</p><p>25:30 Katz Gallery’s inventory meant for  Führermuseum in Linz and for Göring</p><p>27:00 Family is  seeking  return of 144 paintings from Dutch Government</p><p>28:00 Dutch Government  possesses paintings looted from Katz Gallery </p><p>29:00 Nazis gave appearance of legitimacy to sales by Katz Gallery</p><p>31:15 Berg’s second book, <em>Restitution</em></p><p>Katz Gallery History:<br/>In the late 1880s, Dutch Jewish businessman Katz opened a gallery to sell arts and antiquities that became an authoritative leader in the European art world in the 19th into the 20th Century. It specialized in 16th and 17th Century Dutch Master paintings, including those by Rembrandt and one of Rembrandt’s star students, Ferdinand Bol.<br/><br/>Brothers Nathan and Benjamin Katz took over the business in 1930,  attracted Nazi collectors during WWII and by May 1940 they were faced with a choice: sell paintings to Nazi officials like Göring and art dealer Alois Miedl [3] or face torture and murder.  Janet Berg&apos;s husband is the grandson of gallery owner Benjamin Katz. <br/><br/>Many of the Katz Gallery WWII sales became the subject of restitution claims in the Netherlands.  After WWII, the Netherlands was a party to various “Collection Point Agreements” by which it agreed to receive certain looted artworks as a custodian until they could be returned to their owners, including paintings taken from the Katz family.  Many of those works are now on display at various Dutch museums and state buildings, or in their storage. <br/><br/>The terms of those collection point agreements define the Netherlands “as custodians pending the determination of the lawful owners thereof; [and] that said items will be returned to their lawful owners”. By definition, one would imagine that a ‘custodian’ would guard property – not take ownership of it.  <br/><br/>Also as Janet mentioned, the Katz heirs pursued their claims with the Dutch government without much success.  In late 2012, the Dutch Restitution Committee issued its findings related to a claim for return of 189 works “sold” to the Nazis, only recommending return of a single painting.  After that a US suit was filed in federal court that was recently dismissed and is on appeal.<br/><br/>The Bergs&apos; suit in the US is <a href='https://dockets.justia.com/docket/south-carolina/scdce/2:2018cv03123/246688'><em>Berg v. Kingdom of the Netherlands, et al</em>, Docket No. 18-CV-3123 (D.S.C. 2018)</a>.<br/><br/></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Send us Fan Mail This episode focuses on Nazi art dealer Hildebrand Gurlitt, recent findings about the history of the art he held, and ongoing efforts to return Nazi-looted art found in his collection, which was in the possession of his son, the late Cornelius Gurlitt.   Show Notes: 1:30 Hildebrand Gurlitt exhibited modern artists, including German Expressionists  2:30 Gurlitt began work for Nazis; he gathered art for the Führermuseum and was authorized to liquidate degenerate art 4...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>This episode focuses on Nazi art dealer Hildebrand Gurlitt, recent findings about the history of the art he held, and ongoing efforts to return Nazi-looted art found in his collection, which was in the possession of his son, the late Cornelius Gurlitt. <br/><br/>Show Notes:</p><p>1:30 Hildebrand Gurlitt exhibited modern artists, including German Expressionists </p><p>2:30 Gurlitt began work for Nazis; he gathered art for the Führermuseum and was authorized to liquidate degenerate art</p><p>4:25 Hildebrand’s son, Cornelius, inherited his father’s collection </p><p>5:20 German tax investigation led to locating approximately 1,500 works in Cornelius’ residences in Munich, Germany and Salzburg, Austria</p><p>6:20 Claim by Alfred Flechtheim’s heirs for Beckmann’s <em>The Lion Tamer</em></p><p>8:00 Kunst Museum Bern inherited Gurlitt’s collection</p><p>8:30 Manet’s <em>Ships at Sea in Stormy Weather</em> was sold to Tokyo’s National Museum of Western Art</p><p>8:50 Gurlitt Art Find: Paths of Research </p><p>10:15 27,000 documents from Gurlitt’s estate provide unreliable information about sales</p><p>11:00 Thomas Couture’s <em>Portrait of a Seated Woman</em></p><p>11:40 Paul Cezanne’s <em>Mont Sainte-Victoire</em></p><p>12:20 To date, 14 looted works have been returned to heirs, including Henri Matisse’s <em>Woman with a Fan</em> and Max Liebermann’s <em>Two Riders on a Beach </em></p><p>13:50 Questions arising from the Gurlitt Collection: how can right and wrong be so easily blurred? </p><p>15:00 Why, in the shadow of mass murder, is the stealing of art important? Because small steps of hate, like theft of a people’s culture, lead to larger steps.</p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></description>
    <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>This episode focuses on Nazi art dealer Hildebrand Gurlitt, recent findings about the history of the art he held, and ongoing efforts to return Nazi-looted art found in his collection, which was in the possession of his son, the late Cornelius Gurlitt. <br/><br/>Show Notes:</p><p>1:30 Hildebrand Gurlitt exhibited modern artists, including German Expressionists </p><p>2:30 Gurlitt began work for Nazis; he gathered art for the Führermuseum and was authorized to liquidate degenerate art</p><p>4:25 Hildebrand’s son, Cornelius, inherited his father’s collection </p><p>5:20 German tax investigation led to locating approximately 1,500 works in Cornelius’ residences in Munich, Germany and Salzburg, Austria</p><p>6:20 Claim by Alfred Flechtheim’s heirs for Beckmann’s <em>The Lion Tamer</em></p><p>8:00 Kunst Museum Bern inherited Gurlitt’s collection</p><p>8:30 Manet’s <em>Ships at Sea in Stormy Weather</em> was sold to Tokyo’s National Museum of Western Art</p><p>8:50 Gurlitt Art Find: Paths of Research </p><p>10:15 27,000 documents from Gurlitt’s estate provide unreliable information about sales</p><p>11:00 Thomas Couture’s <em>Portrait of a Seated Woman</em></p><p>11:40 Paul Cezanne’s <em>Mont Sainte-Victoire</em></p><p>12:20 To date, 14 looted works have been returned to heirs, including Henri Matisse’s <em>Woman with a Fan</em> and Max Liebermann’s <em>Two Riders on a Beach </em></p><p>13:50 Questions arising from the Gurlitt Collection: how can right and wrong be so easily blurred? </p><p>15:00 Why, in the shadow of mass murder, is the stealing of art important? Because small steps of hate, like theft of a people’s culture, lead to larger steps.</p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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    <itunes:summary><![CDATA[Send us Fan Mail This introductory episode discusses the true-life war stories to be shared in the coming episodes of this podcast. Each story is rooted in true events, ranging from Nazi-looted art to graffiti.   Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com  Music by Toulme.  To hear more episodes, please visit Warfare of Art and Law podcast's website.  To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about jo...]]></itunes:summary>
    <description><![CDATA[<p><a target="_blank" href="https://www.buzzsprout.com/1153790/fan_mail/new">Send us Fan Mail</a></p><p>This introductory episode discusses the true-life war stories to be shared in the coming episodes of <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>this podcast</a>. Each story is rooted in true events, ranging from Nazi-looted art to graffiti.<br/><br/></p><p>Please share your comments and/or questions at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com<br/><br/>Music by Toulme.<br/><br/>To hear more episodes, please visit <a href='https://warfareofartandlaw.com'>Warfare of Art and Law podcast&apos;s website</a>.<br/><br/>To leave questions or comments about this or other episodes of the podcast and/or for information about joining the 2ND Saturday discussion on art, culture and justice, please message me at stephanie@warfareofartandlaw.com. <br/><br/>Thanks so much for listening!<br/><br/></p><p>This podcast and its content may not be used for training or developing AI systems without permission.</p><p><br/>© Stephanie Drawdy [2026]</p>]]></description>
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